Good Job, Brain! - 191: I'm FALLing and I Can't Get Up

Episode Date: November 18, 2016

Come all nymphs and sprites, let us sing the autumnal hymns to honor the great harvest. Trivia and quizzes about the fall season: the many names of the season and find out the real murderous secret be...hind falling leaves. Take Dana's quiz and find out about weird Oktoberfest facts. Would you want to try McDonald's Japanese special seasonal offerings? And c'mon, let's get down to business: WHY THE PUMPKIN SPICE? ALSO: Enordnilap quiz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello, diligent dynamite denizens of the digital dows. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 191. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your small, Forg is bored of smashing, smitten, smoking, smiling, smarty pants. Yeah, I'm Dana. And I'm Chris.
Starting point is 00:00:37 And Colin is the rare occasion where he is out. When he's not here. When he's not on the show, but he hikes all the time. Right, right, right, right. He's camping in Utah. He's pooping in a bag. He's pooping in holes. He's making a cat hole.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah. And, uh... I actually don't want to think about Colin pooping too hard. Well, we miss you, Colin. He's actually coming back in, like, a couple days. So we'll see him soon. Listeners, as you may know, we are very, very close to the launch of Good Job Brain, the book. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:01:10 It might be available on Amazon as you're listening to this. So run, don't walk to your computer. And order the Good Job Brain book from Ulysses Press. And also, I didn't know you found it, Chris, that there was like Amazon hot charts for quizzes. We, at one point, there was a, we were number one in copies, quizzes, trippy, something. Like new releases. We were number, we were outstanding in our field. We were the number one in our category.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And that is all thanks to you guys pre-ordering, sight unseen that gets our rainbow. But now you can go and check it out. And Karen did the, well, Karen, Dana, you and Colin also all banded together to do the layout of the book, the design of the pages. A real long weekend. Very elegant. Yeah. Yes. And now we can find out what is inside said book also.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You can decide for yourself if you want to spend your hard-earned money, which I think you should. Well, I mentioned the Amazon Hot Releases thing because we surpassed naughty dots. Oh, yes. Yeah, the sexy Connect the Dots book. Yeah, we outsold the sexy Connect the Dots book. You can look inside that book, too. You can. It's a lot of dots.
Starting point is 00:02:22 We learned about the sexy Connect the Dots book because of the chart. Because we were outselling it, yeah, for sure. Noddy dots. Also, additionally, this wasn't all supposed to happen all at the same time, but it did. My book, my old book from 2004, which is called Power Up, it's about Japanese video games. Yeah. Might also be out by the time you read this, coming out October 19. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I think enough people have ordered both of these books that go to the Amazon page. Frequently bought together. Frequently bought together, the Good Job Brain book and Power Up. Can I tell you a story about your book? Maybe. So I had a co-worker, and I was like, oh, I'm going to go play. trivia and I mentioned I play with Chris. He's like Chris Kohler. Chris Kohler of the power up book. Oh, really? I love that book. I have that book. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I think he
Starting point is 00:03:10 wrote a book. Sure, why not? I don't ask him too many questions about his life. We don't talk about business while we're playing trivia. We've got to focus. But yeah, that was that Chris Kohler who wrote that book. Turns out, it was that guy. People are into it. It's a good book to Well, it's just exciting. Again, as I said, I wrote it in 2004, and it went out of print in 2004. So it's nice to actually have it back again. It's tough here. No, it's nice to actually have it back for people to be able to purchase it again.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I recommend the Chris Kohler experience. Yeah. Chris Kohler is coming to your town. Find out when. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Paid for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge. That's good. I've never heard that one.
Starting point is 00:03:57 All right, with that all said, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, Pop Quiz, Hotchop. So here I have a random Trivial Pursuit card drawn from the box, and this is Trivial Pursuit, just normal edition. Oh, okay. From, well, copyright 2009, so we know it's not that old. Okay. And you guys have your barnyard buzzers, and let's answer some questions. Chris versus Dana. These all read like Colin questions, and he's not here.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh, no. We've got to try to channel Colin. All right. Sports. Here we go. Blue Wedge for People and Places. What sticky dish did Harvard's most famous theatrical society take its name from? Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Chris. I believe it's figgy pudding. incorrect Dana do you have another guess now I'm like sticky sticky pudding something pudding Ficky no coffee pudding yeah yeah wait wait wait it's the hasty pudding yes that's it that's it Dan's got yeah hasty pudding it is something pudding yeah all right uh pink wads for pop culture who is Spicoli's nemesis in fast times at Ridgemont high if only I'd seen that movie Jeff Spicoli uh Sean Penn famously uh Pac-Man Phoebe Cates
Starting point is 00:05:23 She's in it She's in it I don't know Oh I guess Okay this kind of makes sense I guess The answer is Mr. Hand Which is his teacher Oh okay
Starting point is 00:05:35 I thought it was the off-color joke Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yellow Wedge What two states Include land purchased from Mexico In the 1854 Gazden purchase Gadsden
Starting point is 00:05:49 Gadsden Oh land purchased from Mexico Yes New Mexico and Arizona Correct Nice Did you know that or did you just guess
Starting point is 00:05:59 I feel like that was in the punch bowl As they say I knew it wasn't Texas Because we just took that We were just like This is ours now Go away Mexico California was like a sneaky
Starting point is 00:06:09 Kind of takeover Right right right Yeah so this was actually legitimately Gadsden purchase GADS D-D GADSiden Gadsden Gadsden
Starting point is 00:06:21 D. That's such a DZZD. Purple Wedge. What book besides the Bible are you likely to find in your Marriott Hotel room? That is not
Starting point is 00:06:34 in dining, in room dining. Chris. Oh. It, Mary. You buzz. I did buzz.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I did buzz. Is it like the book that's by Conrad Hilton or? I'm interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's not it. Date Yellow Pages?
Starting point is 00:06:56 Book of Mormon. Oh, really? Yes. Founder John Willard Mariah was a devout member of the church. I've stayed at Marriott before. I don't think I've ever seen the Book of Mormon in there. Yeah, but did you open all the drawers? Yes, I always, I mean, like, don't you guys open the drawers just to see what's in there.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Okay. No. I don't put my clothes in there. That's a good way to forget them. Oh, it is. All right, Green Wedge. These words are used to. describe shapes of what natural item,
Starting point is 00:07:26 elliptic, lance, palmate, spear, or trifoliate? Leaves. Correct. I now think we, this isn't a recycled card. No. But I think this is a duplicate card. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:07:45 I feel like I've read that question before. You know, we're in too deep. We're just going to have to go for it. Yeah. Like, yeah, even, we keep getting recycled questions now. That's how randomness works. Well, I mean, yeah, because we have like, like, ten different versions of trivial pursuit cards in the box. And, you know, I guess no one's ever checked each one of them.
Starting point is 00:08:06 There's some overlap. You know, unless we want to go back to the, like, baby boomer two rejected questions edition. Yeah, okay. We're stuck with this. All right. There's just, there's only so much knowledge. There's only so many things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Okay. Orange Wedge, what carmaker made the Aspire, Probe, and Tempo? Oh. Is it Ford? Correct. It is Ford. Wow. Good job.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I feel like somebody was giving away a Ford Tempo on a game show. Oh, yeah. Like that sounded. Ford Probe. Yeah, okay. Like American Idol or something. Oh, maybe. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Good job, Brains. Yeah. Yeah, not bad. So this episode, we're recording in what we call San Francisco summer. Oh, yeah. Because it's been way hot, even for San Francisco. It got like the hottest it gets here. But guess what? It's actually the autumn and the fall, despite that freak weather that we have here.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Everywhere else, it's autumn. And we thought we'd welcome the new seasons with a nice fall, seasonal episode dedicated to things that are nice and autumn-like. Or like pagan creatures. Sprites Dancing with leaves To greet the harvest Singing songs and hymns So this week
Starting point is 00:09:30 We're falling and we can't get up I'm going to leave this World for a while And I'm free Falling Mower Free Falling Mama Yes, that's right. It is, in fact, the autumn or fall.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Actually, it used to have three names. This is the weird season where some people say autumn, people say fall. Actually, centuries ago, people would have said harvest. They would have called, like, spring, summer, harvest, winter, repeat. They cared a lot about farming. Apparently, it's what, right. And as people started to care less about farming, it sort of seemed weird to be like living in a city and be like, oh, it's harvest.
Starting point is 00:10:19 What are you harvesting? What are you doing? Yeah, yeah. And autumn, you might be wondering, is from the Latin word autummus, which means autumn. I really wanted to find out what autumn meant. And as it turns out, it's such a basic concept that there is no, like, deeper, it's not referring to anything. It's probably from ancient Etruscan from a word that meant autumn? Like, you know what we're talking about that.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we often say fall, which, again, is also an old word that people used to use. And we understand why we say fall. It's because it's when the leaves fall off the trees. I mean, that's, no. Karen, get out of here with your idea. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I didn't know that. No. I thought it was like, I mean, on a meta sense, it's changing from summer to winter. And it's like, the season is falling into the coldness, but not like, yeah, Yeah, but not literally leaves falling. Falling off the trees. Oh, my, no. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Really? Yeah. Why don't I learn these things? I don't know. It's like summer's the peak and then the fall. Blame the teachers. Nobody sat you down. And like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It's more poetic, maybe. I guess so. Well, let me surprise you some more. Okay. And maybe even you, Dana. Okay. Maybe you don't even know this. What I, uh, fall is actually a misnomer.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Um, because, well, you know, what we. think happens to leaves it's like okay well the weather gets cold the weather gets dry the nights get shorter the leaves they turn brittle and then they're all brittle you know because there's no moisture or whatever dryness they die and they fall off because they're like i can't hang out anymore no not true 100% wrong it looks like a suicide but it's murder those leaves did not fall those leaves were pushed what what so trees yeah it was the inside jose It was an inside job. Trees, if you ever consumed any high fantasy media whatsoever, you know, the trees know everything. Yes. Yeah, yeah. They trap wise old, you know, mages. Precisely. Okay. So real life trees,
Starting point is 00:12:28 maybe they don't know everything, but they do know some things. They know how long the days are. They know how cold it is. And when they feel it coming up on winter and they're like, oh, the days are not so long anymore, the nights are getting colder. They know that they need to reserve their resources or they're going die because the water in the ground is going to freeze. They're not going to be able to pull up the water into their roots because the water is frozen. They need to hold on to the water that they have or they're going to die. So the first thing they do is, well, we've got all these leaves on these trees. These leaves are exchanging moisture. It's going in and moisture is coming out. Yeah. They need to shut that off. So first they suck all the goodness out of the leaves.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You're kind of, you know, everything comes back in. All the moisture comes in. Oh, my God. It's like a vampire. That's cooler. I like this story. It's all got to come back inside, right? They also then stop making chlorophyll because they were making chlorophyll, which was that super green stuff plants make, photosynthesis, all that good stuff, turning light into sugar,
Starting point is 00:13:33 turning sugar into tree, you know, they stop making that because they're not going to be making, they're not going to be doing any photosynthesize and they're just going to be like saving energy. So they stopped making the chlorophyll. When the chlorophyll goes away, we now see what the leaf would be colored like. Without it. Without the chlorophyll. Naked leaf.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So that is half the story. This is very important. Okay. There's the chlorophyll, this is what gives the leaf. It's like green color in the first place. This goes away. We see things that were already in the leaves, which are called carotenoids. as in carrots, as in yellow, as in orange.
Starting point is 00:14:15 It's the stuff, same stuff that's in corn and carrots and bananas, carotenoids, C-A-R-O-T-E-N-O-I-D-S. Carotenoids. Carotinoids, carotenoids, what-having, tomato, tomato. But then also, the tree starts manufacturing what are called anthocyanins. These are things that you find in cranberries, apples, red grapes, blueberries, and These are, these are the things when you see leaves that are red and purple, that's what you get. So it's not entirely the case that we're talking about the chlorophyll goes away and this is what's left. Because the tree is providing some more stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's half and half. Okay. Got it. Yep. So that is why leaves change color. Okay. The chlorophyll goes away and some other stuff goes in. So anyway, I promised you a murder story.
Starting point is 00:15:10 When the tree notices that the knights are starting to get longer, you have your leaf, you have your stem, the leaf is there, the stem is there. And there is a division between those two things at the cellular level. It knows where the leaf is and it knows where the stem is. Between these two, the leaf and the stem, the tree starts to develop long, thin cells that go perpendicular, kind of slashing between the stem. stem and the leaf. They start, like, dividing, and it builds up this layer of really, like, many, many, many, really weak cells. These are called abscission cells.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Whoa. As in abscission, as in scissors. Yeah. Same root. And the point of these is to do about 99% of the work of slicing the leaf off of the tree. Oh, my God. They need that leaf to be gone, because if that leaf were to stay there, they would still die,
Starting point is 00:16:10 because that leaf is a leak point so they cut it off and then when the breeze comes along the tree has weakened that division very purposefully so that it will fall off and then at the same time it's actually
Starting point is 00:16:25 creating scar tissue on the stem where the leaf was to seal up to protect it yeah yeah yeah and that's already done kind of by the time the leaf comes up but the tree is creating and the these like gives itself a haircut yeah yeah yep so it's deliberately chopping the leaves off by
Starting point is 00:16:45 dividing these a whole bunch of really weak cells yep real life is intense it is you think about like beautiful you're like oh seasons change all these dry leaves just kind of floating around you're like no murder it's like a space shuttle I kept imagining like you know when it goes up and this is somebody's gonna I'm actually this but this is in my mind this is how space shuttles work It's not right. It goes into the stratosphere, and then they like blast the gas one off, the energy one comes on. They're like, I don't need this anymore. It's holding me back.
Starting point is 00:17:20 This is like my understanding. I think that's how space shovels work, although I don't think it's relevant. But like with the leaf, it's like, oh, I was getting energy from this. This is the chlorophyll. And now it's done. Now it's just dead weight. It's a burden. Yeah, get this off.
Starting point is 00:17:33 when johan rawl received the letter on christmas day seventeen seventy six he put it away to read later maybe he thought it was a season's greeting and wanted to save it for the fireside but what it actually was was a warning delivered to the hessian colonel letting him know that general george washington was crossing the delaware and would soon attack his forces the next day when rawl lost the battle of trenton and died from two colonial boxing day musket balls the letter was found unopened in his vest pockets. As someone with 15,000 unread emails in his inbox, I feel like there's a lesson there. Oh, well, this is the constant, a history of getting things wrong. I'm Mark Chrysler. Every episode, we look at the bad ideas,
Starting point is 00:18:18 mistakes, and accidents that misshaped our world. Find us at constantpodcast.com or wherever you get your podcasts. for you guys, and since there's just the three of us, I'm going to have do a write-in quiz. So you both have a pad of paper and a pen. All right, so you guys are going to write in your answers.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Do we get extra points for drawing pictures like last time? Yes. Okay. I'm not keeping score, but yes. Oh, okay. Well, unless you won score. No, we'll keep our own score. Okay, all right. Honor code. Let's take a picture at the end and post it somewhere. Okay. Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Okay. We'll kick it off with a leaf-related question. What two-word phrased is used in New England to describe the activity in which people travel to view and photograph the fall foliage? It's a two-word phrase. This happens particularly in New England in areas where the foliage is called. That's not fair. Yes, it's an unfair question. But it's a leaf question.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I've seen it on TV before. I watched a lot of TV, though. But it comes up sometimes. To watch it. To watch it to the activity. It's called this. Yep. So Chris says leaf peeping and Karen says leaf spotting.
Starting point is 00:19:39 It's leaf peeping. That sounds so creepy. It does. I was going to tell you, I was like, oh, you're so close, Karen. You should just go creepier with the second word. Leaf peeping is what it's called. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Peeping, not peeing. All right. Next question. There are three federal holidays, U.S. federal holidays in autumn. What are they? And that's September, that's September to November? Yeah, to early December. Did one happen already?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Three federal ones. Oh, man. From September to early December. From, yeah, roughly. I'll give you more details. In fall, then fall. Yeah, in the fall. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:30 You ready? Yeah. All right. Chris has Thanksgiving Veterans Day, Columbus Day. Karen has Columbus Day, Veterans Day. Yes. Question mark. It is Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:20:43 You forgot the easiest one? I didn't know that was federal. I thought that was like Christmas federal? Yes. Oh, okay. So which became federal law first? Out of the three? No, here you go.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Is it that Columbus Day always happens? on the second Monday in October or that Thanksgiving is always on the fourth Thursday of November. Which one became law first? I didn't even know that was the rule for Columbus Day. That is the rule. Second Monday in October.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Okay. And the Thanksgiving is always on the 24th? It's on the fourth Thursday of November. Oh. This is a gamble. That's okay. ha ha ha so you both said columbus day it is actually thanksgiving oh it is and uh so they were both they're both super old holidays they're both super old holidays almost fDR made thanksgiving the
Starting point is 00:21:46 fourth thursday in november we've talked about this before he made it that one because he was trying to get people to shop for christmas a little bit earlier to get people out of the depression and then lbj made columbus day the second monday in October in the 70s in order to standardize Monday holidays. It was just part of a bill package. It was just convenient. It was convenient. But they actually both started being celebrated federally right around the same time.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It was just when did it become an official thing? Oh, it was marketing. It was marketing. It was marketing. It's always marketing. Okay, one more Columbus Day question. It's on the same day as what Canadian holiday. This Canadian holiday is always on the same day as Columbus Day.
Starting point is 00:22:30 but the Canadian one came first Chris is going to write a joke answer are you writing a joke answer or a real answer I see no pictures on anybody's thing oh no Chris had some pictures you both got it Canadian Thanksgiving which Canadians know as Thanksgiving Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:22:50 Thanksgiving what is the name of the festival in China that celebrates the fall Karen's writing a lot I'm drawing a picture too All right You got in New England I got a Chinese question
Starting point is 00:23:09 Gotta even it up Yeah Would you draw I said I protest this biased question And then drew myself standing in front of a tank It is a political cartoon because the person is labeled me And the tank is labeled this question How soon we forget about leaf peeping
Starting point is 00:23:26 Wow That's a good T-Hand It's very political. Tim and Square. I'm sorry for oppressing you. I'm really putting you under. An onion. It's just layers and layers of depth in that one cartoon.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Thank you. The world watches as I crush you under my... Under the oppressive yoke of Dana's quiz. Of your biased question. Hearing from my lawyer. Karen put Lunar Festival and she drew a beautiful picture. Oh, she even drew the official food. It's moot cake.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Of a moon cake. Is it? Am I right? Yeah, totally. What was, what's in the filling of your moon cake? What did you? Well, the classic filling is red bean, which is like a dark brown. And they actually, you talk about yolk, they actually put a, like a salted yolk in the middle of the moon cake.
Starting point is 00:24:18 So when you cut it in half, it looks like it's the night sky with the moon. Oh, that's cool. It's pretty good. Yeah. It's pretty tasty. And the other food we also eat. Is, um, I, I, I, on the show, we always get the pronunciation. It's one way or the other. Pommelo or Pomello. I think it's Pomello. Pome. I thought it was Pomello and someone said Pommelow. But anyways, you eat
Starting point is 00:24:42 uh, pomolos too. And then you like peel them in a way and they, you kind of make a hat out of the Ryan and all the kids wear that. What? That's the tradition. That's the tradition. No, I'm, I'm serious. It's like the godfather. You put it in your mouth and chase people around. Okay. You put it on your animals as well. You can. You can. Yeah. It's like you've seen the cat with the pomolow on their head.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Is that what that is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for the moon festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Your farts are weird. The beans in pomolow. All right, just two more questions.
Starting point is 00:25:19 What's the name of the full moon which occurs closest to the autumnal equinox? Autuminal equinox. Yes. Oh, man. And I give you a hint, if you want. want. Do you want a hint? Nope. No. Okay. I know, I don't know this, but I'm going by video games. Yes. You both put Harvest Moon. Chris put Harvest Moon 64. My hint was going to be, it's the name of the video game as well. Yes. All right. Last, last autumnal question. What do Sarah
Starting point is 00:25:58 Grunes, Water for Elephants, Aaron Morgan Stearns the Knight Circus, Hugh Howie's Wool, and Marissa Myers' cinder have in common. What do they all have in common? And it's autumn related. Huh. Well, Water for Elephants is that book about the circus and then you had another circus book. Yeah, yeah, Reese Smith. Spoon. And Christoph Waltz. What were they all? It's related to the season. Marissa Meyer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 What do all those books have in common? Answer is up. Karen, what did you write? Oh. Oh, I don't know. I have no idea. There are movies based on books that came out during Thanksgiving weekend. No, and Chris wrote.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They all take place on Halloween. No. Oh, what is it? They are traditionally published books that were written during nanorammo, which is National Novel Writing Month, which happens every November since 1995. Wow. Yeah. So wait, all those people finish the books in one month? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Wow. At least the first draft, and then they got them published and they became big hits. So what's your score? Oh, good question. I have like four points. Okay, I scored 1,000 points. I mean, self-scoring. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:27:32 We're self-scoring. Yeah. All right, so Chris wins. Good job for me. Good job. Wow. 996 more points. Overcome that oppressive question.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I, you know, I mean, rose up. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday. Woo! Quiet night in on Friday. It's good to have a routine
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Starting point is 00:28:21 Which is not technically in Paris City But out in the boonies of Paris Zero Disney And not called that anymore. They officially called Disneyland Paris, not Euro Disney. And there are some parts of the park. Euro Disney doesn't have a good connotation anymore, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 People didn't like it. People didn't like it. People didn't like it. So I was there for the inaugural Disneyland Paris half marathon and that was fun. And I met a lot of other runners. And a lot of people prior to this weekend stopped over at Germany for a little seasonal fun known as October Fest, the October Fest, the official one. And so here I have a quiz of more things that might show up on pub quiz about October Fest.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I actually found it was pretty fun. And you guys have your pads of paper. Let's do a write in again. Listeners, you can write down your answers to where can yell it out. So here we go. In what month does October Fest start? in what month does October Fest start? Dana says September, Chris says September.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yes, it is September. Does not happen in October. Happens in September technically. And the name is misleading because it's actually most of the festival happens in September. Yeah. And October Fest is a celebration of beer, but mostly culturally, Bavarian traditions. So actually all the beer at
Starting point is 00:29:59 October Fest, at this beer festival has like, there's laws or there's rules about the beers that you drink. They have to be brewed within the city limits of Munich. Like, you cannot have beers from other areas or even in Germany outside of the borders of the Bavaria estate.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So Bavaria's estate, Munich is a city in the Bavaria state, only Bavarian beers allowed. For what purpose was the first October Fest held. What was the reason? What was the reason why they had this massive beer festival? I mean, do you need a reason for a party? I guess maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Maybe you do need a reason. What is the reason? Historically, is it to celebrate something or morning something or marketing? All right. answers up, Chris says Pretending? No. Oh, determine beer. I can't read your handwriting.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I said, to determine the best beer in Munich. Oh, okay, okay. Like a competition. Sure. And I said it's a unification or liberation celebration. Wow. Wow, that rhymes. It does.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It's also two answers. It's probably wrong. It's like a political celebration of some sort. First October Fest was held to honor the marriage of Prince Ludwig and Prince That was... That's a unification celebration. That is. That is.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That is. 1810. It was for a wedding. October Fest. What a, what a nice wedding to get everybody all partied up. Nice. And you guys have to look at me for this next question. And I'll explain to you listeners.
Starting point is 00:31:44 What quote, air quote, celebrity is permanently banned from Octoberfest. What air quote celebrity? What celebrity? And we have to look at you. Oh, no, no. I mean, like, I look at me because I made quotes. Oh, I was like, it's a rabbit of some sort. Is this a real person?
Starting point is 00:32:02 It is a real celebrity. It is a real famous person. It's a real life human being. Yeah. All right. It's not Spud's McKenzie. No, no, no, no. It's, it's a, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:11 That'd be cute. Oh, man. Are there any, are there any hints? Uh, the hint is it's a, it's a she. Okay. Okay. And she was there to promote, uh, canned wine. And they'd pay.
Starting point is 00:32:25 They banned her for this sacrilege? I mean, just overall. Oh, wow. Just overall. Okay, all right. She was there. Remote canned wine. Always a good idea.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah. And is now banned. Oh, she's been a little past her prime. Oh, and she's past her prime. Got past her fame prime. Okay. For more hints. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:49 This beverage, this canned, it's for canned sparkling prosaqo, which is a Italian, by the way. Yeah. Called rich. Okay. All right. Answers. There's a lot of hints.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You got to get this, Chris. Oh, I hope I got it. I don't have to get it. Dana says Paris Hilton. Chris says Paris Hilton. It is Paris Hilton. Wow. 2006.
Starting point is 00:33:14 What did she do? She went to the October Fest, dressed in kind of a, you know, kind of a Bavarian girl costume. A slutty Bavarian girl. costume, like a Halloween costume. Like a Halloween costume. Yeah. To promote her brand of canned Prosecco called Rich.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And it's, and she's been because of the general kind of like displeasement of like selling out or having celebrities be there to be selling something, to be a giant ad for something. Because the whole fair and the whole like October Fest is to celebrate Bavaria and German traditions, not for you, not a platform for you to sell your can't. I mean, they're. already don't like canned beer they're not going to like your canned wine okay all right here's a guesstimate question closest to what percent of the visitors of october fest are not from germany what percent are not from germany i could see this being like a big sort of like all the
Starting point is 00:34:14 foreign tourists come for this but the german people are just like i'll just drink beer at home so i don't know okay so closest two out of a hundred possible answers well actually a hundred one if you count zero right uh okay uh that is true yeah so what percent of the visitors are not from germany chris says 68 percent i say is 78 this is gonna be tight 19 percent that's it so it's mostly germans percent it is complete almost all local affair like or people from other parts of outside of bavaria and germany come in and you know they just go there every day they bring their whole family like kids are allowed at october fest they even have a lost and found kids uh station which makes perfect sense which is highly popular yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean because
Starting point is 00:35:05 it's also like a fairground they have like rides and and you know it's probably not only drinking when you're there right right right right and all the rides are operated by drunk people which is really makes it better yeah yeah yeah yeah and last question what famous scientist worked as an electrician at Octoberfest in 1896. That's a lot of clues. It's a lot, but I'm probably still going to get it wrong. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Answers up. Last one. Chris says, Tesla. That's a good answer. And Dana says, Albert Einstein. I was like, I don't even think he was alive then, but Tesla's not a good. It is Albert Einstein. Yay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 He used to be electrician to set up all the tents there. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I was so like tentative about whether or not he was alive. I thought that's why I was like he was. And his name means one Stein. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Should we get him two drinks? No. No. He only needs one. Wow. That's amazing. Good job, you guys. You know, I totally forgot during my leaf segment from earlier in the show that you may remember.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Yes. To restate just for the record the word that means a tree that the leaves fall. off of? Yeah. Do you guys, do you guys know it? Oh, so it's... There's evergreen,
Starting point is 00:36:25 which is like a Christmas tree, a fir tree, right? Where the leaves never fall off. Yeah, what's the, what is the one where the leaves fall off? Desiduous. Deciduous is the word. Deciduous is the word.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And that does come from the Latin for to fall. That's the thing Chris forgot from the previous segment of our show. Now I have a trivia question for you. Okay. I have a, This is definitely a question that we could get on pub quiz. Okay. And I'm going to need you guys to know.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Well, I know the answer. Okay. So we get it right. But if it came down to it, if somebody asked you this question, you might get this question on your pub quiz listener at home. You're going to want to know this. Here is the question. If you go to Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yes. And you order a pumpkin spice latte. Yeah. Is there pumpkin in the pumpkin spice latte? Dund, dun, done, done. Right now? All right. Yeah, if you go today, October 2016, and you ordered a pumpkin spice latte, and they
Starting point is 00:37:31 gave it to you, and you drank it. Have you just consumed any pumpkin? So I think at one point there was. No, you guys can discuss it if you want to. They changed it. Yeah. It used to not be, it used to just be spice, and I think all the organic or all the natural hoopla.
Starting point is 00:37:49 they had to cut down on artificial flavoring and I think they did add I think the opposite like it did have it and then they took it away I don't know it comes from a powder good job brain this is exactly what it's like trivia I mean they might have natural flavoring
Starting point is 00:38:06 they did change it in 2015 but what did they change it to was it worth or without I think they added it in I think too much hoopla about like good eating and companies buckling down to the pressure of like, you know, no artificial stuff. I think they took it out.
Starting point is 00:38:23 What's the answer? Let's find out. The answer is Karen is correct. They put it in. It's pumpkin spice latte. The popular fall beverage served at Starbucks for a limited time. Did not have any pumpkin in it. The idea was it was pumpkin spice.
Starting point is 00:38:38 The sort of spice that you put in a pumpkin pie. But, yes, due to people sort of making some noise online about how there's not even any pumpkin in a pumpkin spice latte. They were like, oh, yeah. And also that it used caramel. coloring, which for good or for ill had got this reputation of, you know, being bad for you, Starbucks reformulated the drink in 2015, took out the caramel coloring, and put in pumpkin puree. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And so it's made. There is a, there, no, it's the, yeah, yeah, no, not trace elements, but like, you know, there is a, they called a sauce, a pumpkin sauce. Okay. And like that plus your milk, plus your coffee is the, is the pumpkin spice. Have you had one yet in the season? Spice. I have not had one this season.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I wonder how the flavor is. Yeah, I have not had one since the change. I haven't had one in a long time. Me too. No, I very rarely get the sort of sugar bomb Starbucks stuff. But incredibly popular. So let's talk about pumpkin spice. The pumpkin spice lattes, the pumpkin spice, the pumpkins, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:37 So around 2003, Starbucks looked at the success of seasonal drinks that it had, like the eggnog Latte. That's my favorite. That out of all this, that is my favorite one. And the peppermint mocha, maybe you like this, I don't know. And they were like, well, you know, we're having these success with these seasonal drinks in the winter. What if we had a seasonal drink in the fall? The fall is cold.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah. Oh, those are winter. Those are holiday. So they do some focus tests. And they find out that when they kind of focus test a whole lot of different flavors, people liked chocolate. And they liked caramel. And the pumpkin, the pumpkin pie flavored coffee, it was not like on the low end, but it was in like the middle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It was like, this is all right. Yeah. So Starbucks ended up going with the pumpkin pie flavored coffee. Because you can add chocolate to anything at Starbucks anyways. Or because they kind of looked at the market and they're like, you know what? There's nothing out there that is like pumpkin related. That's true. There's not a lot really happening in the pumpkin area in 2003.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. So, no, no, I agree. But they had the chai tea latte. Yes. Which is very spicy like a pumpkin. Right. And I could see them being like, oh, this is in the chai neighborhood, but a coffee. Yeah. And that is very similar with the, yeah, with the spices and the cloves and the allspice and
Starting point is 00:41:02 all that kind of stuff and sweetness. Yeah. But yeah, they kind of realized like we have this sort of free and open, you know, market. Untapped. Pumpkin flavored, you know, coffee genre. So let's go ahead and do. that, and of course it is, you know, very thematically appropriate to the fall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And you might wonder, Chris, why is that if you don't live in America? A lot of our listeners are international. And I'll tell you, when I start looking up, you know, facts and figures about pumpkin spice latte, a lot of the articles are aimed at people in the UK and Australia who are like, why do Americans love this stuff go so wacko for pumpkin spice? Why are they putting squash in their coffee? Why? It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:41:46 We'll get to that. Pumpkin is a kind of squash. By the way, they almost called it the fall harvest latte. No. No. It sounds like leaves. Like it's just a bunch of leaves. You're right.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You're right. It sounds like leaves in your coffee. Yep. That's in reference, by the way, Karen, to the way the leaves fall off the trees. Yeah. So pumpkin, yeah, it's a kind of squash. Here's something real interesting. Libby's pumpkin is a subsidiary of Nestle.
Starting point is 00:42:09 They do about 80 to 90% of the canned pumpkin. business in America, which is all, most of it is around this time of year. Wow. Because Thanksgiving, pumpkin pie. Yeah. If you look at the can, it says, made from Libby's Select Pumpkins. Okay. That is not just a little marketing line.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They have their own proprietary varietal of pumpkin that they bought. And it is called Libby Select Pumpkins. Like the strain or like the brain. Yeah. Technically, it's a type of. Dickinson Pumpkin. And the weird part about this is, if you look at Libby Select Pumpkins, they do not look like the orange, round, carving, jack-a-lantern pumpkins.
Starting point is 00:42:57 What do they look like? So, I'm not going to... I imagine they look like a water balloon full of pumpkin goop. Like in the... You are not very far up. They are more oblong. They're a little taller. The skin on them is tan to beige.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Okay. They really, like, sometimes they can be orangey. They look like a, like a grocery store, pumpkin. No, they look like a bad pumpkin. Yeah, yeah. They sell them at the grocery store, but they're not the Halloween pumpkin. Right, right, exactly, exactly. Now, this has led to an urban myth that started going around this year that, oh, there's no pumpkin in canned pumpkin.
Starting point is 00:43:32 It's all squash. It's like, well, pumpkin is squash. These are pumpkins. They are bred not to look like jack-a-lanterns. They are bred to be full. Full of delicious, delicious pumpkin flesh. Less seed, more meat. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:47 More meat. Tastier. They taste good. They kind of look like a ding-dong. Yeah. And it's mostly, it's mostly, it's like citron. You know, the fruit citron. It's different than a lemon and their bread to have so much more rind than flesh because they use that for the oil for candles and still like, you know, cichinella and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's the same. This is bread for flesh, not far as seeds. or volume, I guess. But they are very much pumpkins. Yeah, yeah. It's just that your personal definition of pumpkin is very, is, is, wrongly narrow. Yeah, it's not, shouldn't be that specific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 But again, why, why, why think our foreign listeners, are you guys saying not so about pumpkins and you put in your coffee? Well, if you search for pumpkin spice nostalgia on Google, you get 688,000 results. It is this, this aroma of. the spices that they put into pumpkin pie is so fundamental to like American nostalgia. It is a, you know, Thanksgiving is a time of going home and being with your family. And peeing out. This smell is very much all around Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:44:58 The pumpkins get harvested at harvest time. You eat them at Thanksgiving. Like, that is just this core nostalgic memory for anybody who lives in America. Those air fresheners are my mom's jam. Oh, yeah. I mean, and they have been since before 2003. I know. Well, pumpkin, hey, the smell of-
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah, that smell. That smell is. And that smell of pumpkin spice goes back to the beginning of America. American cookery by Amelia Simmons, which was written in the 1700s-ish. Uh-huh. First known cookbook written by an American, person living in America. And it basically, if you look at this book that, you know, scholars look at it, it really, it takes the old British recipes and then it uses the ingredients that are available.
Starting point is 00:45:40 in America to make, right. So it's like, oh, this stuff is made with corn and not oats, that sort of thing, maize. It has the first recipe for turkey with cranberries. Nice. You know, because she was published in Hartford, Connecticut. She was Amelia Simmons was probably a New Englander, but leaf peeping probably. And she has a recipe in this book for pumpkin pudding, which is basically like pumpkin pie. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And it's pumpkin that is spiced with ginger and nutmeg and another variety of the recipe, all spice. The major spices are cloves, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, and then possibly all spice. Yeah. And so, again. Which is its own plant. Yes. All spice is not every spice. It's not mixed spice.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like, et cetera spice. Technically, one spice. It was in 1934 that the company McCormick, the spice company McCormick introduced the pumpkin spice. So it just says all the spices that you need, all the four basic spices altogether. And finally, I'd like to close out by saying now that the pumpkin spice latte has become so popular, pumpkin spice everything is now the current bad trend in America. I went to Target.com and just searched for pumpkin spice. Oh, interesting. Here are just some of the products that I found on Target that are available right now to order.
Starting point is 00:47:02 This is all, I'm not making any of this up. Okay. Any of it. Pumpkin spice Cheerios. Okay. That sounds delicious. Probably. Pumpkin Spice Halloween costume.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's like... You smell like it? It's like sexy pumpkin. Okay. Okay. Oh, like pumpkin spice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Pumpkin spice fudge stripes. Oh, keepers elves. It's going to get weirder. Pumpkin spice trail mix. Okay. That sounds delicious too. Pumpkin spice pretzels. That sounds delicious.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Pumpkin spice egos. Sure. Sure. Pumpin spice Greek yogurt. These are all products. that are currently purchasable. It depends on... Very traditional.
Starting point is 00:47:44 How pumpkin-y is. Yeah, only if there's, like, granola to make it home. Yeah, yeah. Pumpkin spice Lindor Truffles. Yeah, probably good. Pumpkin spice chili seasoning. Oh. But chile already has a lot of warming spices for it.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Okay. I kind of have some. Yeah. Try it. Pumpkin spice lip balm. Okay. I have some in my purse right now. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And finally, and finally, this sounds like a Chris Kohler joke, but This is actually real. Will Shorts presents Pumpkin Spice Sudoku, a book. Nice. Okay. Yeah. Karen, I hope you enjoy that pumpkin spice. Well, I have an additional one little tidbit about pumpkin spice or pumpkin or Halloween.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Probably a lot of you guys saw in the headlines, McDonald's in Japan released pumpkin choco potato. Yes. What? It is classic French. fries they'd already done chocolate french fries yeah chaco chaco potatoes already exist coated in chocolate what is no it's you you they give you a little sauce packet that you open up and you drizzle chocolate sauce got it on the fries yourself i that's yeah that's just good it's dipping your your fries in the frosty and now yeah yeah yeah yeah and now it's chocolate and pumpkin so it's
Starting point is 00:49:05 like orange and black it's Halloween i wonder what it tastes like if it's good uh I'm I know French fries and chocolate are good. I'm curious about the pumpkin spiced. So, yeah, the orange part is pumpkin spiced. One day, McDonald's would handle to sell a regular hamburger again. Oh, new innovative. What is this? We didn't put any crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:24 There's no weird colors. So this made me think, I was like, so I don't know about nationwide, but at least in the Bay Area, we just got Gilroy garlic fries. At McDonald's. I don't know if that's nationwide. I don't think so. So it made me think what other cultures, what other. McDonald's and other countries put stuff on fries.
Starting point is 00:49:44 So Japan already has done chocolate without the pumpkin. They also have like a cheese sauce in the same way. And the packet is a little bit different. You like open it and it has a couple of spigots and then it kind of does a drizzle. It's not like a one flimsy
Starting point is 00:50:01 ketchup package. Yeah. When you get the multiple spigots, then you can do like long advanced technology. Yeah. Rebens. Colligraphy and. How I found one country's McDonald's that really go nuts with their fry topping. Australia. Australia.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Here are some of the things they put on top of their fries. So they have a Chipotle cheese sauce, gravy, peri, which is kind of a chili, a chili cheese sauce, pesto mayo and parmesan, curry sauce, caesar sauce, bacon and parmesan sauce, and guacamole. Wait, all of these sauces? No, these are all flavors. Yeah, these are all like low, like, yeah. You can get fries and they just put a big thing of guacamole. Oh, so you know they're into cababs shops. At cabab shops, you can get fries with all sorts of stuff on it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 You can get the cab meat and the sauce and the lettuce and all that make like. Yeah, fries is a big, and then. Mickey Dees does it. I went to the official Australian McDonald's website just to see what other cool stuff they have. man, we really get the crappy end of the stick when it comes to McDonald's. All of these other McDonald's have really cool stuff. Mix spider.
Starting point is 00:51:19 What? McSpider. I don't think I want that. No, thank you. I don't know why it's called McSpiter. It's just a big spider. So it's slushy. It's whatever like soda slushy, like icy.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And then a vanilla soft serve on top. Okay. So it's almost like a float. I don't know why it's called McSpider. I should look that up. They have toasties in the morning It's like like just breakfast sandwiches But with like thick toast
Starting point is 00:51:45 Brecky Did you see see so Fancier in other places See McDonald's in Japan They had a Pudding What? Pudding burger
Starting point is 00:51:55 Wait is it a meat pudding or a No it's like It's a burger With like a like a flan type thing On the burger It's like a hamburger Yeah With Flan.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah. Barbecue Pompom Pudding burger. Oh, based on the San Rio character? Based on this, based on, I believe, yeah. Pomp Pomp Puran. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Pompom Pudding. He's the pudding dog.
Starting point is 00:52:20 The pudding dog from San Rio has his own McDonald's menu right now, which has a regular burger with Pompon Pudding on the bun, a McFlurry Pompon Pudding, his own chicken nugget sauce. And then finally, the. This is a. It's amazing. Barbe Pome Pompom Pouin Baga, which is literally... Oh my God, there is a flon in the burger.
Starting point is 00:52:44 There's a flon in the burger. Is it like squishy? Here, look. It looks firm. It does look firm. It looks like an egg. Yeah, it looks like a... Like, oh, you know, the egg McMuffins and the eggs are very cylindrical and firm.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Right, right, right. Yeah, because they like steam them in a round. Oh, my gosh. You dip your nugs in flon. This is amazing. That sounds tasty, actually. I know. That's a cute character.
Starting point is 00:53:12 The Pompom pudding is real cute. He has a, like our Billy the Beaver, Pumperin also has a star butthole. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. They love their butt holes on their mascots in Japan. Yeah. No frills, delivers.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC office. Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at no-frails.ca. All right. Well, usually sometimes our last segment is a non-topic quiz. Uh-huh. And we talked a lot about fall stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I have a, here just a word quiz. Okay. A little vocabulary quiz going back to where quiz-y word nerd roots. And I've done this quiz before in Normann lapse, which is palindrome spelled backwards. These are words where they're words, and when you reverse spell them, Mm-hmm. It's another word. It's another word. It's not the same word. A palindrome is the same way back and forth. It would be a palindrome if you put them next to each other. Next to each other. So what I'm going to do is give you a clue, kind of like a crossword clue. And the answer is a two-word phrase. That's basically reverse spelling pairs of words. So for example, I think when I lasted this quiz, I had a Nubis is a and a dog. It's dog god. So these are reverse spelling pairs of words. And hopefully I have good clues to help you get there.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And they're all pretty short in order to make it happen. So here we go. First one. And please buzz in with your Barnyard buzzers. Uh-huh. First clue. Fervent opera singer. Oh, Chris.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Evid diva. Yeah. Correct. Rodman did a bad thing. Wow. Dennis Sindh. Correct. Uh.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Uh, Remy, Splinter, and Rizzo. Star Rats. Yes. Ooh. Yes, Remy from Ratatouille, Splinter from Ninja Turtles and Rizzo, Rizzo the Rat from Muppets. Real chic looking parts underneath boats. Oh. Chris.
Starting point is 00:55:31 No, sorry. Dana. 10 nets or 10 net wait okay like real chic looking parts underneath boats uh no the answer is sleek keels oh oh keels yeah keel hall sleek keels i really i was just like what are sailing turtles no okay this one is funny one uh rudely ignored butt. Rudely ignore. Snubb buns.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yes. Okay. A separate room to make pictures. Make pictures. Dana. Draw ward? Correct.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Correct. All right. This one's a long clue. Some of these are kind of clunky. I apologize. It's okay. Hopefully sleeping in a barn won't give you these weird skin bumps. Uh.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Hopefully sleeping in a barn won't give you these weird skin bumps. Um, thinking. Think skin bumps. Yeah. Yeah. What is a weird skin growth? Oh, straw warts. Correct, straw warts.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Let's do one last one. Purchased a baby supply twice. Oh. Chris. Repaid diaper. Correct. All right. Good job, you guys.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah, no stun nuts for this one. the stunnets. No set. It took you guys a long time for those stoppots. And I also found out that test tube. I also found out that test tube butt set is a palindrome. Test tube butt set. Test tube butt set.
Starting point is 00:57:50 A set of test tube butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, good job, you guys. Had a hard time writing a clue for that one. That's why I was just like, I'm just going to tell you guys. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
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