Good Job, Brain! - 194: Gimme A Break!

Episode Date: March 9, 2017

We're taking a joyride on the road to 200 episodes, and here to share facts and quizzes about taking breaks and getting away for some fun! Treat yourself to Colin's advertising slogan quiz about getting away from it all. Chris has an extra hard (but fun!) music quiz. Our resident game designer Dana breaks it down for us and explains how to define and design "fun" and Karen's got an air travel challenge for all the avid and savvy fliers out there.   ALSO: Nematodes and Zealandia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. What's up? Wiley, wise, cracking, wondrous wallabies. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and Offbeat Trivia podcast. This is episode 194. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your wise. ish, Wombats Woffing Down Woppers, Whiskey, and Wagon Wheels. Wow.

I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris. Oh, the Road to 200. The longer than expected Road to 200. It was really twisty and doubled back on itself a few times. It took a sharp increase there, right there at the end, yeah.

Do you guys notice my Aussie-filled, kind of hinted intro? A little bit. A little bit. I caught a flavor of it. A lot of that. And wagon wheels, which we have right here. Oh, Australian snacks. Yeah, I noticed there's a whole assortment of Tim Tams and other Australian type.

Cherry ripe. Yeah. Fredo. Treats laid out here in front of us. Turkish delight and wagon wheels that are like moon pies, but with jam in it. Oh. Yeah. Because our friend came back from Australia and brought us some of these goodies along with, I want to share some Australian facts.

Oh, okay. Okay, this one I've been saving up for a couple weeks now. They produce a lot of ginger in Australia, like ginger farms. Okay. So there is a certain pest, and it's not just ginger, but for a lot of, like, root, fruits and plants, like pumpkins and turnips and stuff. There is a type of nematode, which we talk about sometimes on the show. Neumatoad is like a microscopic worm, like a creature. Sometimes I like to go on YouTube and look at, like, Neumatoad.

Ameotode infested animals, and they all bust out. Yeah. Anyway, it's just like when you're falling asleep. Yeah. Just something just to kind of send you off there. Relax a little bit. And so there's a nematode called root knot. Nematode that grows.

Root knot. Root not. Okay. And what they do is they burrow into like the flesh of ginger or beets or whatever. Really, it messes with the cellular structure. And it becomes these like kind of monster, nightmarish, like knotty, stringy, roots that are infected so these ginger looks like they have like hair huh because it's all nematodes and like the plant cells are growing around the nematodes which are worms the hair is the worms

with so like with around it yeah yes like if you cut it open it's a worm inside it's my it's really tiny okay it's really tiny in australia they just develop this like special trick which is they mix molasses into the soil And so the soil is like sweet, like soaked with sweet, like molasses sugar and solution. Yes, it does. Mm, molasses soil. And so the nematodes would then eat the molasses in the soil rather than burrowing to the root. Uh-huh.

And they can't stop eating. Of course. They just keep eating until they die. Ah. And then their bodies become fertilizer for the ginger. That's awesome. Okay. It's the circle of life.

It's the circle of life. Do they get ants? Ants eating the soil? Maybe. But they're not messing with the crop. I mean, you know, if you're a nematode, honestly, there are worse ways to go, right? Just eat yourself to death. Yeah, actually, that's true.

I don't even think you need to qualify that with if you're an emigone. Yeah. Man, nematodes, they gross me out so much, but I'm so fascinated with them. Did I tell you, like, when I was in Alaska, they had the ice on the glacier. has like a weird pinkish tint and I asked the musher the dog sled driver I was like why is the snow pink and they're like oh it's an algae that grows and I was like oh that's kind of cool and then late at night there's nematose that live in the ice and they would burrow up and eat the eat the algae that's pretty cool that's disgusting no it's pretty cool but that's pretty cool I guess it could be

both it could be both there's one where like another video I saw which was of a grasshopper that had a parasite nematode and what you do is like you they're not killing the grasshopper but they submerge it in parts the affected parts in water and then it basically drowns the nematode and it's trying to look for an opening to like burst out and it bursts out from like the butt of the grasshopper that's gross yeah well there's a parasite in my brain called trivia does it burst out of your back Yeah, only when he's under water. Only when he's in the bath.

Sometimes. Way to bring it back. So that was my cool Australian story. Okay. So I'm not really in the mood for those tip-tams anymore. I'll be honest with you, my... Chocolate things. Desire has waned.

And this brings me to a kind of related big fact. Did you guys hear that we might have a new continent? The eighth continent. Well, I mean, I heard about this. from you, but I did. It's a reliable circle. But that's all I know.

Yeah, exactly. I can cite you as a source, Taryn. Yeah, what's up, Karen? Zilandia. Ooh. Zilandia. Middle Zealand.

It's, it's, well, includes New Zealand. Imagine it, how to explain it? Imagine it as if there is a continent with the highest peaks of mountains that is New Zealand

above water. Yeah, like most of Zilandia is underwater. It's underwater. Yeah. And so that's how it, It's like that whole landmass is underwater, and New Zealand is the one that pops up above water. So they're basically like, look, just because it's underwater doesn't mean it's a continent, it's not a continent. It's not a continent.

Right. If you go underwater doesn't mean you're not a human. Yeah. You don't become a fish. So, air go and therefore, right, yes. Chris Kohler is not an expert in nautical law. So what happens now? I don't know. I mean, like, I think it can be, we can call, it is, it may technically be a continent.

It's not like a landmass. Yeah. As you say, it's like geologists and politicians, right? Exactly. Sooner or later, I'm going to do seven marathons and seven continents. Okay. And I was like, I really want, there's an Easter Island marathon. And I was like, oh, which continent does that belong to?

But Easter Island is weird. There are a couple places that just don't belong to any continents, despite if they're a protectorate of another country. Sure, sure. That doesn't mean they're part of the landmass. Yeah, like, geologically, Easter Island didn't, I was trying to figure out. I was like,

which continent does this Volonzo? And there are some places that just don't have continents. And I was like, well, anyways. So you're going to go Antarctica? Yeah, I'm going to do Antarctica, Marathon. That's the, this is like collecting video games. It's like,

when you, when you're like, when you get like the rarest video game on a console, then it's like, okay, well, I have that. So I'll fill in the whole rest of, of the set, now that I did the hardest thing.

You got to, first you have to figure out how to run a marathon in Antarctica, and then after that, it's all just downhill. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what did it tell us about the Antarctica marathon? Are you running it? Yeah. Well, in like 2020.

Oh, okay. Really? They only allow 100 people on the island. And this isn't, this isn't like the, I don't think I'm running on the, like, the polar cap, you know, in that area, there's an island. And so what happens is, I think you, you're in Buenos Aires. And you take a flight down to, like, southern tip of Argentina. Uh-huh.

And you take a research vessel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a research vessel. It's really nice. As nice as a great. You know, the reputation that research vessels have.

Yeah. I don't need to say anymore. And then it's like a multi-day trip just to sail to the place to run the marathon. And then you're done and you sail back. Then you get out. You run around and you come back. Yeah. And then you see, there's like, penguins that hang out.

There's, like, wind. that hang out. I mean, it's pretty crazy. That is crazy. Now, do you race against the penguins, or they have their own time class? They would just destroy you. Yeah. On land?

On land? I could take a penguin. No, seriously. I could take a penguin over 26 miles on land. In Antarctica. And I'm not that great a runner. Like, I'm not saying in the water. Like, that thing we could go about.

In Antarctica. What if you're in a penguin suit? What if I wore a penguin car? a penguin costume. I assumed that was what you were going to do. I didn't even bring it up. I was like, yeah. Is that disrespectful?

To the penguin culture? To the penguins, absolutely. What if you wore a the penguin costume? Oh, right. Burgess Meredith as the penguin. With the nose. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Top hat, monocle, right. Little waistcoat. I mean, yeah. A couple years. A couple years. Yeah. Yeah.

What if I become one of them? They adopt you. From the queen of penguins. They don't see you. They're like, oh, it's just a penguin. It's a really big one. She's with the penguins now. All right.

It's a lot of talk. Let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz, hot shot. You guys have all your barnyard buzzers. Let's remind everybody. Chris, you are the rooster. I am the noble rooster. Colin?

I'm the humble horse. I am the courageous cow. Actually, so this is a total coincidence, but my son, also Chris, Chris the Younger, he's been reading the Dr. Seuss book, Mr. Brown Kenmu, Ken Yu, in which a man makes a whole bunch of crazy noises, and he loves it. It's the iPad version, so it reads it to you. But he thinks that the phrase cockadoodle do is like the funniest thing in the world. I still think it's like, he runs up to me, and he's like, dad, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-do.

He's like, you know, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you were there. Good joke, funny. All right, and I have a random trivial pursuit card from the box. This is from just normal genus standard. And here we go, blue wedge for geography. What Scottish Castle is the British Royal Family's Long Time Summer Retreat.

Oh, Scottish Castle. Chris. Edinburgh Castle? Incorrect. Colin. St. Andrews? Windsor? Elephanton Castle?

What is it? Balmoral? Oh, bow moral, yeah, okay. That was one of those, like, I would never have guessed it before. I've heard of it. Boulmoral. Bailmoral. Yeah, very Scottish sound like.

All right, Pink Wedge for Entertainment. What gross out game show did Joe Rogan host? Everybody. Fear Factor. Fear Factor. There was a show that's not Fear Factor, but I remember it was like around the same time. It was like the glutton bowl where people had to eat a lot. I don't remember that one.

And they had to one episode, they had to eat as many sticks of butter. Sounds so 90s There was just that Yeah that period Yeah Salted or unsalted But It makes a difference

I'm sorry Yeah All right I get through about a stick And a half of Salted But unsalted I can't do more than a stick

Gross It just like accumulates layers And layers in your mouth Stop Stop All right okay We have snacks You guys

We have snacks you guys Yellow Wedge for history What name was given To the political economic reforms Made in the 1980s By Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. Colin

That was Parastroika? Yes, Parastroika. Purple Wedge for I forgot what purple wedges Something. Literature? I don't know. Sure.

In what field of design Would you encounter Kurning, tracking? And justify. I'm giving it to Chris. FONTS. We'll give it to it. I'm hurting, tracking, and justified.

Field of design. Oh, so like, um, letter press. Like, what is the, oh, typeface? Typography. Typography. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no, okay. We know that you know. Is that what it says on the card? It's typography. It's typography. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's Collins.

Jam. That's Colin's jam. And this is going to be Chris's jam So I'm not going to call on him. What home video game console introduced in 2006 Has wireless motion sensitive controllers That differentiate it from Other Gaming Systems

The Wii The Yeah, we all took a deep breath out. I thought it was why. I thought it was why this whole time. The Nintendo Wii. The Nintendo Wii. All right. Oh, this is a good one.

last question wild card which deck is higher on a ship the quarter deck or poop deck oh it was 50 the quarter deck incorrect it is the poop deck dang it why is it called the poop you know i was just looking at this up the other day it's not because of poop no no it's not because of actual poop yeah no maybe it means something else yeah like an old timey colorful seafaring word i want to look it up i really want to look it up there's no way to know Wait, if only. Pause, I want to look at it. Okay.

All right, I Wikipedia. We sent our research assistant out to the library to look this out. I looked through the card catalog. Dusty tone. I found the dewy decimal system. It's wearing gloves.

Blow out the dust. I wrote down the number. I went to the shop. Yeah. So the poop deck is the roof of a cabin built in the rear part of the ship. and the name originates from the French word for stern La Poop. So, yeah.

Which means poop. Yeah, no, no, no, no. It means the stern of the boat is the French word. Yeah, so it's the stern deck, yeah. Okay, gotcha. And it's, oh, so you built, oh, of course, because you see the boats, they have a little cabin built onto the back of it. Yeah.

And that's the top of it. Yeah, it looks. I always assume that's like. So that's taller because it's like the top of a. Right, right. Like on a pirate ship. I think that's where I think the captain would live. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the little cabin.

Right on the pirate ship. Makes sense. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. So today's episode is 194. The road to 200. Buh, blah, blah, blah. It's taking us a long time to get there, but we're getting there.

We took a nice scenic detour. Sometimes life is hard and you just have to take a break. So this week, we're going to set up. We celebrate taking a break by time out of some fun trivia about breaks. And fun. And fun. Diversions, fun, breaks. Getting away from it all.

Okay, NPR. That's a funny voice. Okay, Westworld. Move it down to the ground. Wrip it up. Don't hang me on a party night. Everybody have fun tonight. I'll start us off

Tonight I'll start us off I have a quiz for you guys called take a break This is about advertising slogans, jingles, music advertising campaigns And the common thread for all of these is about

taking a break. Hey, stop working. Getting away from things. Vacation, maybe, travel, you know, treating yourself right. Yeah, treat yourself. Take a break. All right, so get your buzzers ready. Yeah.

Here we go. And buzz on in. For many years beginning in the 1970s, this restaurant ran ads with the jingle. You deserve a break today. Dana. McDonald's. That is McDonald's. Yes, it was a very successful campaign for them.

Did you ever do like that hand clap thing, the big macfoulet of fish? Nope. I'll chance it for you guys. I'll perform it. Big macfilet of fish, quarter pounder, french fries, icy cold, milk shakes, sundays, and apple pie. You deserve a break today at McDonald's. Yeah. There's a whole hand clapy thing you do as a little kid.

Have you heard that before? No, no, I've heard the other one, but this is tangent, but it's relevant. This is a true story that I mentioned on a friend's Facebook page We're our fan Maddie Who was, she's really into Hamilton She's memorizing a lot of the Hamilton soundtrack I'm like, yeah, yeah, when I was your age You memorized that McDonald's song

With listed all the menu items And as you're doing that, I'm like, oh yeah, I do remember this Because it's like Big Mac, what was the second one? You know why I couldn't remember the second one? Because the second one was McDLT's. So now I got it again Because they eliminated the McDiLT. Big Mac Mac McDilT, a quarter pounder with some cheese,

Filo, fish, a cheeseburger, a hamburger, a happy meal with nuggets, tasty old and fresh as regular and the salad, chef or garden, or a chicken, salad, oriental, big, big breakfast, egg McMuffin, hot cakes, and sausage, baby, biscuits, bacon, egg, and cheese, sausage, danish, hash browns, two, and four dessert and hot apple pies, and Sundays, three varieties, three kinds of shakes and chocolate, and cookie cookies, and drink a Coca-Cola, Diet Coke, Sprite, a coffee,

decaf, orange juice, something, something, something. Oh, I almost had it. Oh, wow. You're really close. Amazing. Amazing. But that's not what you were doing This is different thing

I know what you're talking about It was like a playground thing Yeah I'm just talking about Oh you have a whole handbook There's like a yeah Oh my God You can't see a whole audience It's like a patty cake kind of

Yeah But all of those were alluding To the original campaign that they had in the 70s You deserve a break today It was a little more soulful It was more of like a traditional jingle style For all I remember my whole life It's been I'm loving it

I remember when they changed it to I'm loving it and I was like, I do not enjoy it. I'm not loving this. I'm not loving that. In Australia, McDonald's is officially called Maca's. No, it's not officially. It is, it's registered. It is on the website.

It is on the storefront in Australia. MACCA registered. Is that weird? They get out in front of that. If they see it, oh, we better try, yeah, we better take this. That was really impressive. Thank you. That's one of those things where you remember.

If you memorize it when you're like a child, I know, seriously. And like, I don't know where my keys are. The third largest airline in the United States is famous for ads and promotions with the tagline, Want to Get Away? Karen. Is that the question? Yes. Okay.

Is it Southwest? It is Southwest Airlines. This is the third largest. Third largest, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's Delta and United. or one and two.

And then Southwest is the third. Wow. Yeah, they're bigger than American. Because their cheapest fare class is called Want to Get Away. Oh, really? That's how I know. Yep, that one, because it's the cheapest one. Since the 1980s, this candy bar has implored you to give me a break.

Give me a break. Everyone here. Kit Kat. That is Kit Kat. Yes. Yeah, that jingle's been around for a long time. I just want you to get off its back. Yeah, give me a break, man.

Give me a break. But it physically makes sense because you have to break it. You do. It does. It makes sense. Yeah. Break the next line of the song, yes, as Dana has it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. For several years, this cruise company's slogan was, it's more than a cruise. It's the love boat. Whoa. What cruise line? cruise line.

That's so familiar. Yeah, and this is, you know. Carnival. No, not Carnival. The hint is that it is because of this cruise line's overt connection with the TV show, the love boat from the 70s and 80s. I don't know. Norwegian, that's the only...

No, no. In fact, this... Dana has it. It was Princess Cruise Lines. Their boats were what the love boat boats were. All of the exterior shots, the fly-around shots, anytime they showed an actual cruise ship. It was a princess cruise lines.

And that must have been like a licensed deal. Yeah. Okay. It worked out great. Hey, it worked out great for them. Yeah. They incorporated into their advertising. Absolutely.

In the 1970s and 80s, commercials for this bath product featured harried housewives pleading. Oh, yeah. Take me away. Yeah. Chris. Calgon. That is the Calgon line of bath products. Yes.

You have it. From the good job brain perspective for the bonus point here, did you know that the, that Calgon, the name is a portmanteau word. We are big fans of portmanteaus on Good Job Brain. Anyone, anyone care to guess or no? California gonet. Yeah, that's amazingly. California gonet. No, it's a portmanteau.

So of course Calgon, they had a whole line of, you know, bath products and things that would relax the life of a Harriet at Housewife. Their original product was primarily a water softener. Calgon, who was shortened from calcium gone. Calcium gone. Wow. Yeah. Interesting.

Before they moved out into the wider. We've totally lost the meaning. Yeah. Yeah. Now he said it sounds so a chemical. Like you wouldn't want to soak in that. Yeah. It's marketing, man.

Since 1986, writer, radio host, and voice actor Tom Baudet has been lending his voice to the signature line we'll leave the light on for you for what national hotel chain? Chris has a guess. I believe that's Motel 6. That is indeed. Motel 6. You've got it. That's right.

Yeah. The well-known voice of all their radio ads, internet ads now, of course. I don't get it. Why do they leave the light on? You know, you're out on the road, you're driving late. To save money, the lights have no switches. Just keep it on. We're actually stealing power from the city, so we can't turn that light off. It's like in the middle of the night if you need a place to stay.

Right. You go there. It's like how. Exactly. Yeah. Don't worry, weary traveler. We will leave the light on for you. Oh, okay.

Yeah. All right. Last one. Last question here. All right. This is a true or false. You can each answer here. True or false?

Okay. Part of the reason that United Airlines uses George Gershwin's Rhapsody and Blue in its advertising is because the song is in the public domain and therefore virtually free of charge. True or false. We all know the song. They've been using it for years.

It's a great tune and still I associated with United. Yeah, I always associate. But is that in fact part of the reason? I say false. Karen says false. I feel like it's a trick I want to say false because it's a great song

but why ask this question I'll say true I'll say false I'm trying to bonus here I mean one way or the other I'm trying to trip up one of you it is false however

however it would have been true if Congress had not extended the copyright term by 20 years in 1998. Right. So currently the term of copyright is 95 years, meaning that they're not, that song, which was written or that, you know, orchestral piece written in 1924, still covered by copyright until 2019.

So I was actually going to say false because of the copyright thing. Like he wasn't that old. He's not 1800s. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yep, yep. So, you know, among what? with numerous, numerous other creative works from that era, you know, not just Rhapsody and

Blue, but also Superman, you know, things like that vintage would be covered by this extension. That's right. Yeah. So in 1998 was the last time Congress passed a major extension. But if they hadn't passed that, then yes, Rhapsody and Blue would have passed into public domain usage. So that means United is paying. They are still paying the estate of, yes, of the Gershwin family. Play that song.

Wow. Yep. Yeah. Well, it's a good song. It is. Yeah, I'm safe to say it's worth whatever they're paying. Yeah, because now it's like I grew up as a kid with it, and it's like that song is, for me, always United Airlines song. All right.

Well, you guys earned, you guys earned that break. Good job. We get to be a break now. Right now. Right now. This is the break. The break is now over. Okay.

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Yeah, part of my job, a big part of my job is thinking about what's fun and how to define fun, how to make things fun. How to help other people make things fun. So when people ask me, okay, how do we make a fun video game? Like this isn't fun, why is this not fun? There's like a lot of tools you can use a lot of different lenses you could look through to figure out why something's not fun. You're like, you know, you have to look at goals and progression and feedback. But I think one of the most important things to look at when you're trying to make a fun game

for somebody is flow. There's this concept called flow. And it was developed by a psychologist called, he has a tricky name. And I, you know, I've had professors who couldn't get his name right. I watched a YouTube video earlier, and it had 174 thumbs up and two thumbs down. So I think this is the right way to say. I pronounce it. Say the name.

His name is Mihai, that's his first name, Chixenth Mihai. What is that name from? I believe he's Israeli. Oh, okay. Anyway, so Flo, what is Flo? Flow is this feeling of ecstasy when you're so engrossed in a task that you kind of forget that you have a body. You forget you exist. You're just really, really super focused.

Do you guys ever get into Flow? When Colin and I used to play in the office, we would try to gold star rock band songs, him on drums, me on guitar, and we wouldn't even talk. Like we're on expert level and we're just staring at the TV and just like in the zone, in the zone. That's a great example. Yeah. Don't even know what's going on. Yeah. It's that feeling of in the zone, I would say.

Yeah. You forget to eat. You don't have to go to the bathroom. Like, you don't move for hours. Like, you look up all of this. This sounds bad,

but it's really good. You feel so good. And I mean, honestly, some of the, like the one major criticism of flow is that it's addictive. It's really addictive when you get it.

But very successful people get into flow all the time. Very successful creative people. Like Martha Stewart, for example, is somebody they say gets into flow all the time with her projects where she'll just sit there and go to town making a thing, figuring it out. So how do you get into flow? What is flow?

Flow is this balance between your skill level and the level of challenge. Oh. Yes. So you're trying to come up with a challenge that is a little bit harder than their top skill. Like if you make it too much harder, it's not fun. It's not fun. It makes them feel really anxious. Frustrated.

They'll quit. If you make it too easy, It's boring. Why are you doing this? So like your rock band example is perfect where you guys are trying to gold star. It's hard, but you guys are very good at it. And you're like, no, it's wrong. I got to do it again. Yeah. Yeah. It's attainable. It's attainable. Yeah. The funniest thing is the people who walk by and like it looks, we're really standing there not talking or smiling. And it doesn't look like we're having fun playing rock band. But we are. We're like, we've got to gold star this today. That's a key part of making a fun game is coming up with challenges.

that are slightly more than their skill. And then once they develop the skill and they can master it, it gets a little bit easy and that gives them a break. And then you give them another challenge that's like slightly harder. Just always kind of dangling the carrot, just in front of you. Just a little bit. And so sometimes it's like, like a yes, I'm winning. And sometimes it's like, oh, I almost won.

I wish I, one more try, one more try. Flow. I wanted to tell you guys about that. And it was Mihai, Chikson Mihai, is the psychologist who discovered this. Man, you just described every game on my iPhone. Yeah. I mean, it's really core to. So this came out of studying creative, like, habits or games in particular?

It actually came out of studying people who are very successful at what they do. They were, it was like, he was interviewing people, and they would describe losing themselves in the task that they were working on. They would be like, oh, I. this composer would say, oh, the best feeling is when I'm composing, I'm writing, and it's like my hands don't even belong to me anymore. And I'm just, you're just like transcendent. You're in this life. As a writer, you have to get into that state, or else you're really going to be really painful

to try to write something. You know, you have to get into that state where, like, the words are coming out very quickly and you forget what you're doing kind of, yeah. Because it's so natural. Right. It's so from the... Well, it's like you have to figure out a way to get yourself there because otherwise it's going to be a really, like, you know, word by word, painful process.

He was talking about a poet who was describing how he gets into flow, and it's like, this door opens, and you just, like, let yourself drift through it. And if you think about the outside world or you think about the door, it's not like you won't make it through, but you're just, it's like meditation, really. Like, you're trying to get to, like, yeah. No, seriously, this Rockman thing is, like, the best example. Yeah, that's exactly. Like, like, my, I'm not even, like, thinking what to press with my fingers.

That's right. That's a really well-tuned game. I bet a lot of musicians would describe the same feeling, too. Not playing fake instruments. You know, hey, I mean, I, look, I was there with you. It was, it was very real in the moment. It was. It's just any, any sort of process-oriented task.

Well, you were playing the drums? Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like playing the drums. Yeah. I'm not playing the real guitar. You are pressing buttons. Not really not. Yeah. Yeah. Real musicians and fake musicians. Oh, now next time I'm going to be more conscious of like when I'm in the zone.

No. You won't be. You can't do it because it's the, you know, it's the don't think of an elephant game. Yeah. I'm, I'm a decent touch typist, right? I've had, I've had, you know, training in classes over the years, but I've never really worked hard at being formally good at typing. But if I'm not thinking about it, I can actually type perfectly well. I can have a really good flow. But as soon as I start to think about it, I get really disfluent with my typing, and I can't fall back on my fundamentals, and I kind of just freak out. So for me, typing is kind of like that. As soon as you realize you're in flow, you're out of flow. Yeah. We talk about falling into Wikipedia holes.

Man, I was, like, looking up opal. Like, why do opals look like opals? Then I read the Wikipedia. Then I fell into, oh, it's the structure of the spheres inside the minerals. Then I went on Etsy, be like, oh, wonder what kind of opals there are for sale. what is me one meal then I'm doing appraisal like why yeah it's just like at the end I was like oh my god what did I just do for the last four hours I'm like yeah I think sometimes when we're playing trivia we're in flow like we're answering these questions and we're like it's challenging but we're like we're humming along and those are the good nights yeah it's strange that how that challenge kind of equates to fun yeah yeah it's weird if it's not challenging enough it's why are we doing what this about yeah that's I mean purpose is part of it bit, too. Like, there's a lot of different...

Achievement. Yeah, so purpose. Grinding. Collecting stuff. Not in flow. You're like, I'm going to have a snack now. Come back to this. Yeah.

Cool. I have a musical quiz. Everybody's favorite kind of quiz. All right. Is it everybody's favorite? It's my favorite. It's your favorite. It's Karen's favorite kind of quiz.

I have clips from eight popular songs. Wow. Okay. And you ate. eight songs are these Chris's favorite songs are these like no you know what there's I promise you this time there's no Fleetwood Mac no John

Denver no James Taylor no Beach Boys no Elton John but there are some of my other favorite artists in here too but you'll probably hear them when they come up so I'm going to play you a clip of a popular piece of music you are going to tell me the artist right yes yes yes

so here we go with the I yes is there a theme Chris Dana do you want us be there's a theme. Is there a theme? There is, Dana. There is a theme. And in fact, I didn't say everybody's grabbing their buzzers.

I think this will be a write-down music quiz. And so everybody's going to write it down, so we'll truly see who the music master is today. And then also, for the bonus point at the end, and maybe this will help somebody make a comeback. There is, in fact, a theme. Okay. So you write down the theme. Okay. All right, so everybody is ready with their pens and paper, and I will play you the first clip.

Okay. This is clip one. Okay. Okay. I believe in you Tonight Tonight Tonight

Tonight Tonight All right Let's see everybody's answers Danis is smashing pumpkins Colin says Smashing Pumpkins And Karen says

Smashing Pumpkins Oh do we get bonus points for pictures I'm sorry I didn't ask earlier Oh no bonus points for pictures this time around, unfortunately. There's still that matter of the overarching theme. Okay. As a tiebreaker.

So everybody is on the board with one. Here is musical clip number two. Remember, I'm looking for the artist. Mm-hmm. No promises are to make But love is just better to be All right, let's see Collins says Pat Benatar, and Karen says, Pat Benatar, yes.

And it is, uh, love is, uh, love is a battlefield. is the name of the song. Tonight, Tonight was the name, by the way, of the Smashing Pumpkins number. Note that he's telling us the song titles.

Yeah. Just throw that in there. I'm just making an observation. Let's make an observation. Time for some game theory. Okay. Okay, so here's clip number three. Come on,

before let the fun be in. We've got a future and it's rushing it Call all the minstros from the ancient shrine Pass down the message that it's right this time Maybe an unfamiliar song, but perhaps a familiar voice I'm trying to name the artist here Let's have our answers up Karen says Paul McCartney

Dana says John Lennon And Colin says wings with a question mark at the end So indeed I do have to go with It is in fact the artist is Paul McCartney Paul McCartney's song Come on people That's C-A-M-O-N People if you're writing it down

Paul McCartney Well you're all writing it down though Well, you're all writing it down. I didn't tell you to write it down, but everybody's writing it down for reasons. I've been writing down everything you've said the whole show. Oh, good. Yeah. Here is clip number four.

Man, man, fasting black. Seal the buttons up and down her back. I know. He's so tall. She broke a needle now. She can't sew. I'm just to walk in yon'all know So Colin says that was question marks

Karen says meatloaf. Sadly, you are all incorrect. It is Aerosmith. That is Aerosmith. Walk in the dog. Arrow Smith Lincoln the dog. I mean, I for sure

thought the voice was meatloat. Here is clip. We're halfway through with a halfway point to this musical quiz. Remember there's an overarching theme to these songs.

So far you have heard Smashing Pumpkins tonight. Pat Benethar, Love is a battlefield. Paul McCartney, come on people, see apostrophe, M-O-N. People and Aerosmith's

Walkin the Dog. Here is clip number five. Oh, for God, and now We're all along, all along. Close the window from the light, and it would be all right. Oh, there's a very familiar song for you,

But do you know the artist? Colin says it's Peebo Bryson. Dana says it's Christopher Cross. And Karen says Peebo Bryson. Incorrect. It's actually Boz Skaggs. Oh, Boz Skaggs. Big time singer from 70s.

He sang the song, We're All Alone. He had other hits, too. Oh, really? Okay. All right. We're all alone. Boss Skaggs, we are all alone. Here is another familiar voice for you.

Hopefully you guys can play it here. San Francisco native boss There we go Sorry But that's not the feet Sounds like a monster's ink character Again here is clip number Six

Their faces Their faces haunt me still All the pretty girls I've never kissed and never will. Colin says that was Frank Sinatra. Dana says Frank Sinatra.

And Karen says Frank Sinatra. You are all correct. That is Frank Sinatra, The Girls I Never Kissed. Coming up in the last two here, here's clip number seven. Okay. Carry on my wayward, son.

There'll be peace when you are done. Lay your weary head to rest. Don't you cry no more. That's it? You either get that one or you don't. Well, I cut that off at the end because it's really, it's really annoying when you don't hear the kick in. It's a lot of tension and no release.

Karen says that was Kansas. Dana says that was America and Colin says it was sticks. Only Karen is correct. I knew. Guitar hero. Carry on my wayward son. As soon as I saw that,

I was like, yeah. The name of the song being Carry On my wayward son. Here is the eighth and final clip. Here is the eighth and final clip. All right. never end and some nights you're breathing fire

and some nights you're caught in nice some night you're like nothing I've ever seen before again maybe I'm crazy oh it's crazy and it's true I know you can save me no one else can save me Somebody mentioned earlier in the quiz.

Collin says meatloaf. Dana says meatloaf. Karen says, Meatloaf, it is meatloaf. I'd do anything for love, parentheses, but I won't do that. Those are your eight. So let's see how we are doing, by the way. Can everybody honor system tally up your points? Oh, just because of the bands.

I think I have five? Colin's got five. Dana's got four. No. four. Oh, four? Six. Oh. So Karen is unbeatable here.

I gave myself half a point for wings, though. Oh, you did? Yeah. Yeah, I get myself half a point for a way. Hey, you were the one asking for drawings. He said it. He said no. Yeah. Yeah, well, I just didn't ask, so I assume. You now all get the chance to think about and write down what you believe the theme is. All right. And if nobody gets it, maybe I'll give you some hints. Maybe some listeners at home have picked up on the theme.

So they're all male lead singers except for Pat Benatar. Okay. That's it. That was the name. All male lead singers except. I think knowing Chris, it's more of a puzzle theme. Like, that's why the titles, like the words of the titles would spell out something, like another song title or something. It has to be a theme that ties.

It has to be a tie to the theme of the show somehow. Fun. Fun, break, escape. Well, Smasher Pumpkins broke up. Yeah, maybe breaking up. Yeah. Every band breaks up. Yeah, that's true.

Frank Sinatra, I mean... Yeah, didn't break up with himself. Buzz gags. I think the reason that he was very keen on us knowing the titles means that the titles matter. There is a finite set of things that I had to pull from. Okay. But the number is arbitrary. Interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The titles are not entirely meaningless, but the titles are only meaningful when the title intersects with words in the in the uh lyrics of the song that you heard here are the lyrics um specifically that i wanted to call out in each song uh believe in me we are young come on walking the dog all alone all the pretty girls carry on and some nights are they all song titles from another artist uh-huh is it james taylor no is it flewood mac no is it adele on No. Carry on.

Some nights. I'll tell you, if you want me to tell you, I'll tell you, those are all very popular singles released by the band Fun. Oh my God, yes. Wow. Wait, all of those were popular by the band Fun?

Well, they were all by the band. They were all single. It released as singles and played on the radio. Wow. Yeah, that's true. I only know two songs from them that's on the list. Oh, my God. Oh, you mean fun period.

A fun period. Oh, sorry. Fun, fun dot. I guess the whole thing. Wait, can you go through the fun songs again? Yes. Believe in Me was a song for them. We are young.

Yes, yes. Come on, see apostrophe, M-O-N, walking the dog, all alone, all the pretty girls. Carry on. And then, of course, some nights. Got it. That's why you say there's a finite pool of songs. Wow. Well, this took a lot of research.

Good job. Oh, thanks. It took a lot of research Yeah I thought you had it I thought you had it By the band fun Yeah

By the band fun Fun Yeah You know Like our fun Theme Like the theme of the show Which is fun

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Shop online and get $15 In PC optimum points On your first five orders Shop now at nofrills. com. All right Well, I got a last quiz about fun breaks, and obviously I've been, I've been traveling a lot for races, and I'm going to travel even more. And so I compiled some interesting fun airline, airplane, uh, questions for you.

Oh, okay. So here we go. Buzzers at the ready. Okay. Our last. All about flying. About flying. Okay.

All right. Where, what city has the busy. airport in the world. Oh, Colin, you seem like you know this. Colin. London, England. Incorrect. They do have high combined of the several airports activity, but the one airport. Is it Los Angeles? No, it is not Los Angeles.

Is it in Europe? It is not in Europe. Is it in Asia? It is in America as in U.S. Really? Oh, oh. Colin. Chicago?

It is Atlanta. Atlanta has won the title of busiest airport or most passengers going through for the last 10 years. Well, Atlanta is Delta's hub. Hub. And they're one of the biggest. Is that Hartfield? Yes, it is Hartfield Jackson, Atlanta International Airport, number one. Number two.

Charlotte is a big hub. Is Beijing. Yeah. And number three is Dubai. So, yeah, I had no idea of Atlanta. L-A-X is the worst airport I've been to. It's big. It's got to, yeah.

It's got to hit a lot. All right. Oh, tangent. Yes. They finished the remodeling at Terminal 4 at JFK, and the urinal flies are still there. Oh, yeah. I saw them when I came through JFK this past October, actually. I like these urinal fly.

They're stickers, by the way. Your stickers, by the way. Your own flight. think the urinal flies have survived i have i was i was gonna snap a photo but it you know not surprisingly it's uh it draws a little undue attention you whip out your cell phone and start taking photos the urinal in a bedroom yeah yeah yeah i don't do that well when i do it first i take a you know a couple of my junk just you know to throw them off the same sure and then i sneak a photo of the it's like an establishing shot yeah yeah yeah but for people who don't know what urinal flies are

oh yes of course um it's a little fly etched um to the porcelain of the urinal, and when guys see it, they just automatically want to aim at it. They get into flow. And if they begin figuratively, and if when, and they put the fly in such a position so that there's, it minimizes splashback out of the urinal. Mm-hmm. All right. In September 1999, a woman named Kathy Bloom, a passenger traveling from San Jose, California, became the first person to do what? September 99, first person.

A passenger traveling from San Jose, California, became the first person to do what? Something we do. Is where she was going? No, where she was going doesn't matter. Use in-air Wi-Fi. No. Something we do all the time? Something we now do almost.

99. So it can't be a phone call. You said Wi-Fi. It can't be. She played a game on her phone. Punch out a flight attendant. Something that we all do now. This is something you do.

Huh, 99. The Wi-Fi was not a bad guess. Now, is where she was going relevant? Not relevant. Something she'd phone on the plane? No. The clues are 99, and also she's flying from San Jose. First person to use a Furby on the airplane.

We all do it all the time. First person to check in online. The first person to check-in online. Oh, wow. All right. Kathy Bloom, first person to check in online and get her boarding pass online. Nice. And it was Alaskan Airlines that introduced this.

And then she was doing some high-tech work traveling from San Jose to Alaska, which makes a lot of sense. Got it. 1999. Now it's like, no one even gets the paper tickets. Unless you have to travel internationally and you have to check bags or whatever. They don't want you to check in there. They don't want. Some airlines.

charge you for doing it in person. Ryanair. All right. Another first. In 1979, Texas International Airlines, which doesn't exist anymore, was the first airline to roll out what feature for customers? What year? It's 1979.

And Texas International Airlines, they travel elsewhere outside Texas, but it's mostly for people to travel within Texas, city, city. 1974. 79. In-flight movies. Incorrect. No, they had that. Really?

Oh, yeah. And it seems too early for like projection. Right. And it seems too early for like personal video. It's a feature for customers. Okay. Uh-oh. The telephone in the seat.

No. In-flight shopping. No, it is the first airlines to introduce frequent flyer program. Oh. 1979 because the people who used Texas International Airlines would fly from like one end of Texas to another. For business meetings, they fly all the time. I love them. I love points and rewards and loyalty.

All right. We're going to end this episode with a couple of questions about what planes look like. Oh. What is the name? They got wings and wheels. I got this one. Yeah. It looks like a big timeline.

The buzz in, Colin. It's a big, pretty white plane. Big Tylenol. That is good. What do you call the design on a plane? Colin. I believe it's the same term that you use for like race cars, which is the livery. Yes, it is a livery.

So same thing. You know, I call it skin. I don't know. Right. Like buses have, you know, like the special, or trains, sometimes have the special skins on them. They're called liveries. And for airlines, that's a lot of like their logos on the tail, the color. Yeah, yeah.

Liveries. All right. So here are all questions about liveries on planes. Interesting ones. This pops up in PubQuiz a lot. It really does. We know this keeps on making the news because it's like interesting that Eva Airlines, which is a Taiwan-based airlines, has a fleet of Hello Kitty planes where the whole, the body

of the plane has Hello Kitty on it, the food you get is Hello Kitty themed. There's Hello Kitty like pillows and everything. What airline has, has and is going to release more Star Wars jets? Star Wars themed planes. Some have been in operation, but there is going to be more. Will you give us a hint? Is it an American carrier? It is not an American carrier.

Really? Yes. The three main jets, there's the R2D2 jet, the BBA8 jet, and they're about to release the C3PO jet. And this is like, even in the flight, the cups, the napkins, the little headrest, call it. JAL, Japan Airlines. You are very close. A&A? A&A.

All Nippon. All Nippon Airways. It is very cool. That's the other big Japanese airway. Yeah. The cabins, the lighting looks like lightsaber. One side is blue, one side is red. It's very, very cool.

And they have very limited places that you can go. It's mostly within Asia. But there is, I think you can fly the BBA8 from Tokyo to Seattle, I think is the only U.S. one. And every flight at hand in on these is dressed like Jar Jar Bink. It puts everybody in a bad mood. Name two airlines or name one. Collectively, let's name two. Collect the name two airlines that have non-bird animals on their logo livery.

Oh, Colin. Quantus. Contus is one. What does it have on its livery? It's got, you know, the Australia beast is the kangaroo, right? Yes, the kangaroo. Non-bird animals on their logo livery. Oh, that's not international.

Hawaii is just a lady, but women are animals. Non-human, non-bird. Okay. You know what, I'm going to give it to you. Contas is probably the main one. There's a lot of a local South African lines that Springbok. I mean, I was looking at weird animals on liveries and they're all, they're mostly all birds, which makes sense. It does.

It's flying in the sky. Yeah, it's right there. It's right there. What is this like? What does this remind you of? An elephant, no. And to piggyback. on your answer, what does Conta stand for?

Q-A-N-T-A-S. This is a major Australian airline. I believe it is Queensland and Northern Territories Air Service. Yeah. Is that right? That sounded right. Yeah. In Queensland and Northern Territories Air Service.

Yeah, that's a good trivia. Yep, exactly. That's a good trivia abbreviation there. Last question. What U.S. airline held a contest in 2016 called Paint the Plain, where local students were invited to design

a plane livery that best captures the spirit of the airline. The winning design was a student. Combined illustrations of a lot of iconic imagery with the tagline, this is the clue, we're all pulling together.

Oh. Oh, Uh, uh, Uh, Uh, United, like we're pulling,

we're united, we're pulling together. I don't know, I thought maybe that was the clue. Think like physically, like literally. Pulling it together. Here's another hint.

One of the iconic imagery on the plane of the winning design had dogs in it. Oh. Oh. Oh. Chris.

Alaska Airlines. Elaston Airlines. And this isn't the, first time, they did a lot of these, like, design a plane competitions. And they hired artists who paint the plane. And it was for the 50th statehood of Alaska. And so the tail was a musher, which was a dog sled driver. And then the nose of the plane is also a dog.

Oh, like, Wichner's and dog. Yeah, yeah. And so it's like the, we're, yeah. It's very cool. Well, good job, you guys. That was my airline quiz. Wow. And that's our show.

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