Good Job, Brain! - 197: Let's Make a Deal

Episode Date: June 2, 2017

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You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, population of civilizations and nations who is in starvation for illumination and sensation and mental lubrication. This is good job, Brain, your weekly quiz show, and offbeat, podcast. Today show is 197 and I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your dancing, dandies, doing delectable

deeds while distributing delicious details and data. I am Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris. Recently, listener Daniel, she wrote a message to us over Facebook and

this is what she said. Of course, with these, I always asked the person, I was like, can I share this on the show. And she said, yes. So Daniel writes, this is in her voice. When my husband said, I made muffins from scratch the other day. I was curious about where from scratch came from. Because their cat is named Scratch. Colin, do you know, you're a... I may, you know, I've read this one before. Yeah, from scratch. Sporty lingo, huh? I mean, I don't know, you say sports. Like, now it makes, like, scratching out plays on football or baseball or something. If you, if you're bowling, you know, you put a line across the, you know, the scoring table if you got zero for that round.

For the score. So I made it from nothing. I made it from scratch. Scratch is. I don't know. Is that it? Maybe. No, but it stemmed from one sport and it just kind of applied to a lot of other sports.

So this is what Daniel said. It is the world of boxing that has given us the concept of starting from scratch. The scratched line there specified the positions of boxers who faced each other at the beginning of a fight. Scratch later came to be used as the name for any starting point for a race or an event. The term came to be used in handicap races. For example, in cycling, those who were given no advantage had the handicap of starting from scratch, while others started ahead of the line. Okay.

And so golf took up the term. Scratch golfer. Yeah, with no advantage, or basically from the bottom or from zero. And so that's where it came from. And now it's like baking. Now it's all cooking, kind of cooking-related. As you guys know, I was writing a shark trivia fact book, and it's about to be off to the printers. So it's exciting.

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I'm not pro yet. You're not pro. Well, you're not like a shark doctor. What's a shark expert called? That is in the book. It is called a shark biologist. Or like a marine biologist. So basically, for someone who's not a marine biologist, you're pretty up on your sharks.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not very exciting. It's not like, it's an ectheologist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I thought I was like, aggresso-ic the, that was one of the bogus answers I threw in. You know, I know there's some like, shark theology. You're like, shark theology. I said, sharkist.

Sharkist? It's just marine biologist. I like how you had, like, the scientific ones, and the answer is shark expert. Well, that's the hard part of writing this book is like, you know, I have to ask a good question, like a good fact. But then I also have to provide two additional Writing multiple choices hard You know and I want to make it fun So it's not you're just like

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That is also available in fine bookstores and bookstores online Near you. Yeah. All right. Without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, Pop Quiz, Hot Shot.

Ooh, my voice went. We got new batteries in our barnyard buzzers. Some fresh bats for our buzzes. Strong, proud. Yeah, this horse hasn't been this loud in a while. All right. Here I have a random assortment of trivia pursuit cards from different versions of the game. And half of these are old silver screen, so get ready.

All right, Colin, left hand, right hand. Right hand. Dana, left hand, right hand. Left hand. Chris, left hand right hand. Left hand. Trivia Pursued 90s. Yeah.

Right. 90s. Just 90s. How is it possible that we have so many of these cards? 1995. Are you kidding? I think we have a 95 edition. It's always 95.

Like, it's never 93 or 97. It's always 95. Okay. See, I'm... I'm reading this card, and it seems familiar, but then some of the questions I don't remember, I feel like I should remember. I'm going to ask.

Again, this mystery box might have repeats. Here we go. This one's a little bit blue. Oh. Most of these questions are a little weird. I don't remember that. I hope to stand was family-friendly. All right.

Pink Wedge, 1995 Trivue Pursuit. Buzzers Ready. Pink Wedge, What movie about the spread of a deadly virus hit theaters in 1995, killing plans for a movie based on The Hot Zone. Colin. Was that outbreak?

It is outbreak. Outbreak monkey. Yes. Yes. Killing plans for a movie based on The Hot Zone. Is that a book? Yeah. Is it in italics?

Yes. Yeah, it must have been a book about. Oh, good. Good sleuth. What 74-year-old cooking icon took her red spoon online to make everyday homemade? Dana Betty Crocker Who is not a real person

That's why I was like But red spoon is right She is just a brand She is 74 yeah And a cooking icon She was a real person All right Brown Wedge

Who appeared in epic films Live nude girls And Porkies Before Sex in the City beckoned Oh Dana Kim Cotrol Correct.

Oh, right. Samantha. Yeah. And mannequin, too, right? She's a mannequin. The lead, the title role. Digital role. Orange Wedge, what retired newscaster

topped all 1995 media poll categories except most attractive. Oh, no. Wait, what retired? Newscaster topped all 1995 media poll categories except for most attractive. If it's retired, it could be. anybody, right? So, retired at 1995. Oh, retired that year? I think so. Oh.

Walter Cronkite? Correct. Oh, I was going to guess that, but I thought that was way too late. He has a sexy grandpa thing. I guess he was too active into the 90s. Yeah, I don't know why I thought that was earlier. Like a professor. Yeah, oh no, I can see that. Green Wedge, who did South Africa pick to head up the Truth and Reconciliation Commission that investigated apartheid atrocities? That was the horse, which is called.

Nelson Mandela? Incorrect. Who did South Africa pick in it? It wasn't Nelson Mandela. I don't know. It is Desmond Tutu. Oh. Yes.

Bishop, Desmond Tutu. Yeah, it's like, think of the An second South African man. Right, right. Yeah, it should have been like, Nope, nothing, yep. He was in the punch bowl, but it couldn't. Yeah, fish it out.

Yeah. Last question, Blue Wedge. What 54-year-old singer took everything off but her boots for a Playboy cover in 1995? 54-year-old singer in 1995. Oh, Colin. 54-year-old singer 95. Tina Turner.

Incorrect, Dana. Nancy Sinatra. Nancy Sinatra. These boots are made for walking naked through town. I guess I work. The ages. Yeah, okay. All right, yeah, yeah.

In 1995, she was 154 then. Yeah, I guess, yeah, I was thinking she would have been older, but no. Good work, you guys. And that one's going to go into the trash, so we'll never see it again. That one's kind of blue. Yeah, there was a little bit. A little bit, yeah, playboy. But do you want that, or baby boomer?

No. As long as it's real trivial pursuit, I will take any card. Oh, my God, you're kidding me. I'm sorry, I got a shirt. What is it? What's that one? This is from Baby Boomers. Give me the baby boomer.

boomer card. Yeah, I will take that card every day. Colin is not a baby. Okay. What color was C3PO? C3PO is gold. Yeah. Yeah. Golden Rod. Who shot spider savage? What? Spider Sabich? What's the category? I don't know. Bill? N. N. National news? Not news. I mean, I need to know if this is a real person or? It sounds fake. Spider, it does sound fake.

Although the last name. Spider, S-A-B-I-C-H. Wow. It's not ringing a bell. Is this a comic character? Nope. No. Spider-J-J-R-A-C-R-A-C-Rater.

What's the answer? Claudine Long-Jet. Oh, sure. It's ringing a bell, but yeah, it's the answer is. Yeah, the answer's ringing a bell. I don't know why. What else is on there? What else is on there?

Whose Buccaroos were the Buccaroos. Who's, oh, who's buckeroo? were the Buccaroos? We're the Buccaroos? Roy Rogers's the category? RPM. Oh, okay. I mean, category matters.

R. Yeah, RPM. So, records? Oh, records probably. Yeah, okay. So that's not a bad guess. Roy Rogers? Yeah, Roy Rogers.

Yeah. That's got to be a, oh, Gene Autry. I mean. Who is it? It is. Howdy duty? Buck Owens. Oh, okay.

All right. Yeah. Comedy writer. Yeah, oh, yeah, Buck Owens. Yeah, famed. Oh, another Playboy one. what first did Mary and Madeline Collinson achieve in the October

1970 issue of Playboy 1670? Well, was it the first twins in the center place? Yes, first twin. Oh, I thought it was Mary Ann. Just said, first twin playmates. Oh, okay. All right. A lot of playboy questions in Trivial pursuit. Well, I mean, these are random too. Yeah. Last one. Who said, I've kept my identity separate from Ediths. If I keep

on in the role people will never think of me as anyone else good look edith oh oh oh um i don't even know what i've kept my identity separate from me this if i continue on in the role what's the category probably tv tv okay well it'd be broadway or tv no i'm guessing it's it's it's it's Edith Bunker, but what's the name of the actress? Stapleton. Oh, my God! Yeah, and this is where category matters, yeah. All right. Not bad.

All right. Good job, brains. Colin, you know the trivia of what was the first item ever sold on eBay, right? I do. We talked about this. Yes, it was a broken laser pointer. Purchased by a collector of broken laser

thus proving in one shot the magic of eBay that there is a buyer out there for everything But is that that that's the real story Because like some of the startups They have like a kind of marketing eBay's eBay's fake story is that The wife of Pierre O'Madiar was a Pez collector

Pez, Pez dispensers She bought to trade pez dispensers But really they had they had formulated eBay From a very kind of abstract idea of like, this will be the perfect marketplace. But no, that's the beauty is, you're right. There is, you don't need to worry. Your audience will find you.

Like, for every deal, there's someone willing to make that deal. That's right. And these days with eBay and Craigslist, and, you know, we have all of these different ways for everybody to get involved in buying and selling and wheeling and dealing. Oh, yeah. You see that a lot more these days. It's all, like, automated and easy. So that got us thinking about buying and negotiating and haggling and making, making. making the best of a situation.

So this week, let's make a deal. The best things in life are free. But you can give them to the birds and bees. I want money. That's what I want. That's what I want. So yeah, let's kick it off by talking about negotiations. Let's talk about bargaining, haggling.

I'm a yard sale guy since I was a kid. You are expert in the craft. Exactly. In the craft. I mean, in going places where prices are, where it's assumed that you're going to be negotiating prices. I mean, if you're going to yard sales and flea markets, that's just all part of the game.

You are, I've witnessed you at work, and you are an unabashed, like, just slash and burn Hagler. You know, a person gives a price, and Chris is like, I'll give you 20% of that. Right, right, right. Yeah. Well, it's very important to do stuff like that. I mean, the thing is, you know, what I kind of realized in life is people have a lot of internal rules for, is it okay to haggle or not? And the only rule is this. If the person that you are talking to has the authority to change the price, you can haggle. So, I mean, certainly, it's flea markets and yard sales. If you're talking to the person whose stuff it is, you can haggle. Of course you can haggle. They might not be receptive to it, but you can try and you can try different things. If you're at a store, then it's a small mom and pop shop. You can haggle if you're talking to the owner or the manager or the person who has been,

who has authority vested them. You can't go to Walmart and haggle the person at the register doesn't work. But there are people who will tell you that they would go to like a target and find something that's open box or damage that's not been reduced. reduced in price and find a manager who actually does have the authority in ad hoc situations to give a manager's discount on something that's busted and get it off the floor and yeah and get rid of it and again if it's a if it's an independently owned store I mean you got to kind of suss out like who am I talking to here is this a person that I can negotiate with so there are psychological things

at play here and people have done a lot of research on this and so there's some there's a lot of fascinating stuff about pricing. Oh, yeah. People are in a seller and you're putting a price on something. You know, pricing trickery, you know, everything from this is available in just four easy payments of 1999, you know, something like that. 1999 versus 20. Verses 20, which we've talked about on the show before.

When we talk about pricing, that comes from what is called left digit bias, which is we read from left to right. And so if the first thing we encounter is a one, then we're already thinking, oh, this is $10. It's $10 and something. So if it's 1999, it's actually 20 bucks, but you are really, and again, they've proven this, you are really thinking it's in the $10 area. So one of the major things that I want to talk about is the idea of the price anchor or anchoring. Oh, yeah.

And this said, I mean, first of all, the basically that this says is the first number that gets thrown out, that is what gets held in everybody's heads as like, it's like throwing the anchor off the ship. The ship can move around, but it's anchored mostly to that point. and so it kind of sticks you there. This doesn't mean you go to a car dealership and say, I'll give you $10 for that car. And they're going to say, I'm making $30. That's not going to happen.

But it does, if it's not an extreme situation, if you are sort of in the ballpark, then that price anchoring does work. It is an advantage if you are negotiating to be the first person to throw out a price. Yeah, because that anchors the discussion nearer to your price. So, okay, so for example, you're at the flea market.

It has a sticker on it that says $50 or something. Well, so now the price has been anchored at 50. Well, what if you don't say 50? You're like, I'll give you 20. So you're like trying to anchor it lower. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if it's stickered, then yeah, you can go up and say, I'll give you 20 bucks.

But then you know what the seller really wants is 50. So you do actually risk offending them at that point, make them not want to work with you, thinking that you're like lowballing them. So it has to be. At that point, see, but then again, for you mentally, like the price is already, it's already 50, so you're offering 20. Yeah. Which is where if it wasn't sticker, you might offer five. That's so mind-twisting stuff.

Okay, well, here's what's really going to mess with you is that the studies that they've done, you can get anchored to a number that isn't even the price of the item. It can just be a random number. So they did, you know, and now start looking for this in real life. They might say, this item is $39.99. and 50,000 people have taken us up on this deal so far. So you might see 50,000, even though it has nothing to the price. And now your brain is thinking about the number 50,000. Stupid brain.

Therefore, 4999 sounds really low. Oh! They did a study with college students and expensive bottles of wine, figuring the college students wouldn't know what expensive bottles of wine class. And they were like, okay, first, recite your social. security number don't i don't want you guys to do this but they said first recite your social security number and then then they showed them the wine and they said how much do you think this wine costs the students whose social security numbers ended in a pair of higher digits no guessed that the wine

caught it was literally like that's great they would guess that the wine costs like 25 30 dollars oh my god and the students if their social security number ended in lower digits they would guess that the wine cost like $8.10. Because they just, they primed themselves. They, they played themselves. Well, wait, say it again. So, so.

Because they would recite their social security number and if their social security number ended in higher digits. So say like 89. Yeah. They would guess that the wine was more expensive because they're already, because they're thinking about their entered high numbers. Wow. Yeah.

So they might think say, oh, $99. Yeah. And someone whose social security ends as zero one, zero or 12 would be like, oh, It's going to be like $8.00, total. Wow. If you're going to buy something to have like four models, right? And like the cheapest model is like, this is $8.99. They don't really, they know that no one's going to buy the cheap model,

but they're just setting the anchor of the price, right? Just to sort of prime you, this is the... On a wine list at a restaurant, they'll put the really, really expensive wines up at the top so you can get $1,000 for a bottle that I'm hearing up. And you see that and you're like, well, I'm not going to spend that. And then you go down the list and it's like, well, how about you? spend $300 on this bottle and you're like, okay, well, that's a good deal. Yeah. Okay. But if they do it with the other way, you would start with the cheapest wines and then you'd see,

you'd be like, oh, okay, well, I'll get a wine for $8. Then you look down at the bottom, like, a thousand. That's ridiculous. I get this one. Yeah. Order matters. The order matters. Yeah. Order absolutely matters. Yep. They don't put, I mean, they don't put dollar signs front of a lot of these things because they don't want to think, if you take the dollar sign away, it's not money anymore. Like that's a big thing. And these are all, there's so many things. This is, here's something that really totally blew my mind.

This is from this abstract of this, of a study. Consumers non-consciously perceive that there is a positive relationship between syllabic length and numerical magnitude. No. Oh, I believe it. I believe it. This means

that if I tell you that the price of something is $17 and $7 3 cents versus if I tell you that it's 1801, you would perceive 1801 as being a cheaper price. So the more syllables that are in the numbers when you say it out loud, people absolutely, according to this study, perceive that as being more expensive. I can believe that. I can believe that. And I hate my brain for that seeming logical, but I can believe that. Okay. So what are some negotiation techniques? Let's get down to the nitty green. I would never go up to some. somebody inside. I see this. I see this a lot. And it's kind of sad. And, and, and, and, and, and, but it's just like,

would you possibly be willing to go four dollars on this? It's much better to state it as a fact. Like, um, uh, I can do four dollars. Uh, you know, and then to really create in the seller's mind a sense of urgency, oh, it's, it's, it's not four dollars or he's going to pay me all the money. It's, this is the deal. And I'm going to walk away if you don't agree to this deal. I mean, have to be able to walk away. And even if you're not willing to walk away, you need to actually make it seem as if you're going to walk away. And my out, by the way, if they were to say no, is to say, yeah, okay.

I mean, I guess I'll do five bucks. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing, like I'm reconsidering what it was, even though I was totally going to pay $5. Also, definitely don't negotiate if the price is already way too cheap because that could backfire on you. Right. Well, what would mean backfire?

Don't call attention to it, right? attention to that if the price is a huge super steel just paying the money and get out don't try to negotiate it down because then what could happen is they might say hmm well let me look it up to see what it goes for you know it's like you don't want to you don't want to you want to prolong the situation yeah yeah um this i see all the time and this is really true um the idea of cash in the face you know if something is $40 and and you say when you take 20 don't just say will you take 20 literally get the $20 bill out and have it showing. Will you take this?

And be like, will you take 20? You should do this. You should. Because at that point, you've created a situation where they're literally looking at the money. They're turning down money at that point. That's right. It's not abstract. It's actual money that's sitting right there. So you want this money in your hands? Again, on the other side of this, if you're going to have a yard sale, if you're going to sell stuff, you know, this is this stuff to. watch out for that you are you know make sure you're making the right decision and you're not sort

of like yeah and be ready for it but the worst haggling experience i ever had uh i was in a i was in a thrift vintage shop in portland oregon with my wife when we're traveling and they for whatever reason were having like a blowout of this like antiques and curios and random junk stuff and it was like everything must go so i found this cool old-timey you know it looked like it was from like maybe into the 20s, like a segmented folding dressmaker's ruler. And I'm like, oh, hey, this is really cool. How much is this? How much do you want for this?

And the guy's like, make me an offer. Oh, geez. So I'm like, a dollar. Yeah. And the guy makes the most disgusted face. And he's like, fine. And I'm like, well, excuse me. I'm like, yeah, excuse me for insulting you.

I'm like, here's your dollar. And I'll take the ruler and leave. Yeah. Well, this is precisely. the reason why when somebody says to you, you make me an offer, that's just putting you right in the driver's seat and you did the right thing. Because what happens, what happens is if the seller is, I mean, honestly, as the seller, you really have a responsibility to, like, tell people what the price of something is. Because, like, I'll buy anything at the right price. Yeah. It's like,

it's like, no, no, no. If I go into Target and everything was, everything was 50 cents in Target, I'd buy all of it, right? Like, wouldn't you? Whether or not, you, whether or not, I want to buy something is not just about the thing. It's about the thing and also how much does it cost. Price elasticity of demand and I'm on a microeconomic level being the micro being me. As a seller, you have to tell me how much it is because I don't know if I want it. Let's tell me much it is. So that was precisely the way to play at college.

Okay. All right. Yeah, exactly. And again, he did a bad job. Yeah. And as a seller don't want to have to deal with that. Like, you have to set the price. It's the seller.

It is to your advantage to set the prices on things. Yeah, I don't know why I walked out of there feeling guilty and ashamed, you know. I mean, I have a cool ruler, granted. Right. I have heard this story multiple times where somebody goes to a yard sale. They see a rare video game because that's, you know, that's what I buy. But they see a rare video game and it's like $200. And they're like, this is it.

This is what I go yard sailing for. You know, I get up early in the morning and like I finally got the big. score and they're like oh it's marked three dollars well this is what i'm going to do i'm going to be the nice guy and i'm going to say to the person hey uh this is worth more than three dollars so i'm going to give you 20 bucks for it no uh and i heard this story and and what often happens is the person says what do you mean it's worth more than three dollars and then they look it up and then they're like i'll take two hundred dollars and not a penny less yeah and then you've completely ruined the whole thing.

It's not even really being a nice guy because you're still, like, you're still paying your way less, you know? I'm going to rub it in your face a little bit. It's sort of like a psychological way to assuage your own guilt. You know what I mean? Do it after it's your own property. And, you know, one of the really important things is that negotiation begins before you even know if there's anything that you want to buy.

I mean, especially if you're walking up to a yard sale. And this is an easy tip to give because it's just be a nice person, do what you should do as a nice person, which is when you walk into somebody's driveway, look at them and say, hello, you might be already doing this. Well, if you're already doing this, that's great. You're very nice. And also, it's an excellent negotiation tactic. Because if you skulk up into somebody's property and you ignore them and you don't look at them and you don't say hi and you don't make any gestures toward them. And the first interaction you want to have of them is to walk up to them and say, like, hey, we take five bucks for this. Like, you're going to be in a much worse situation than the person who showed up and was nice and said, hello, because that's the beginning of the greasing of the wheels, of the economy, et cetera. And it's like a machine. You're also paying them by letting them help you, because people get high off of that, too. So you're like, hello, I'm a nice person. You want to be a nice person to me? That's a Dana manipulations.

Like, mine to get a good shating technique. The sweet poison. You'll never get anything unless you ask. If you, I mean, if you do, if you go to a flea market and you see something sitting there and it's marked $50 and you think, oh, that's cool, but I would only buy it for $20. I mean, really, you have to, you have to know like what your top dollar is and then you can say to that person, hey, would you take $20? And they might say yes. Yeah. They might say no, but they might say no only because they think that you're going to start raising your offer higher.

If you want it, just throw out a price and then they might say no. And then you say, okay, and you put it down and you walk away and like sometimes before you get two steps away, they'll be like, oh, okay, no, and you'll call their bluff and they'll take it. Does it work if you're like, oh, I only have $20? No, never do that. Don't do that. If it's true, oh, either you're talking about lying or telling the truth? Telling the truth.

Like you said, I can give you $20 for this. I like it. And they're like, no. And you're like, I only have $20. Yeah, um, yes, sometimes that can work. If you literally take out your whole entire wallet and you open nothing, there's only 20. And you're just like, and you're like, I'm actually serious. I don't have any more money.

Like, this is all I have. Yeah. That can actually, then they know you're not bluffing, but definitely don't do that if you actually have more money. Well, there is Chris's negotiation. Oh, 101. We should go on a field trip to the flea market. Oh, yeah. See it in action.

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Of course. Game shows. A famous game show. But not Let's Make a Deal. They revived Let's Make a Deal. Yeah. Wayne Brady, yeah. Yeah. I felt inspired and so I have some questions and facts about game shows and I apologize to our non-U.S. listeners, our international listeners, because this is kind of U.S. centric, but some of these shows have versions, multiple, like different versions in different countries.

I've been surprised traveling internationally what game shows have popped up, you know, like either in a localized version or just imported straight from America. Yeah, and surprisingly, a lot of the reality and game shows, we get here are all based on another. Oh, yeah. Well, like all the, all the, yeah. Well, I'm not going to say it too much. This might be in your quiz.

Yeah, yeah, like all the endem all shows, right? The weakest link was British. Shark Tank, even though that's on a game show. It's a reality show. It's a game show. It's a speculative reality show. And let's write down our answers. Listeners, if you're

if you're driving around. on commute. Shout out your answer. Freak other people out. You roll down the window, just shout it. Call my mom one. Passers by. Call my mom one. You yell out the answer. No, don't do that. Don't do that.

You pressed your luck. I don't know. The lady, she was just shouted press your luck and she drove by. I don't know. Going to a bank. Who ought to be a military? So you guys got your pens and paper ready. Here we go. Speaking of international versions, what show was originally

created in the Netherlands? called, translated, hunt of millions. Hunt of millions? Yeah. And it is not an obvious answer. Hmm. The word million is not in the title of the American. Hunt of millions.

Hunt. Okay. Okay. All right. Locked in. No. No, no, I'm not. The worst question.

It's probably describing the game mechanic, hunt. Okay, I'm a game designer. I show up. It is a clue. I don't know. I'm someone's at my own head. I don't know. Okay, all right.

Answers up. Colin, you say. Weakest link. Dana. Deal or no deal? Wheel of fortune. It is deal or no deal. Because you are hunting the money.

A million. That's the one with the suitcases, right? The briefcases. Follow-up question. That was a real big thing for a couple of years. Yeah, it was. It was. Follow-up question.

How many briefcases are featured in deal or no deal? And there's 20-something. Yeah, you almost said the answer. It narrows it down. 20-something was your clue? I said 27. 28. 26.

26 Dana's killing it And yeah It was really big And actually spurred a lot of mathematicians And statisticians and probability experts In kind of figuring out What their algorithm was

Here we go Next question In some of these I will actually ask An example question from the game show Oh So here's one from a favorite Price is right Daytime favorite

I love the Price is Right Is Right is a show about pricing knowing the prices of random things and estimating mostly things you would find at the supermarket In general Yeah yep yep yep yep Or grocery stores

At the pool tables It's not 100% It's not 100% Entertainment centers Yeah very homey Homey stuff And they have a lot of mini games you can play So why don't you guys tell me

What you think the price of a Tide bucket of Tide Pod's Turbo Laundry Detergent Pacts for an 81 load tub. So 81 pods. So it says 81 load. Yeah. Okay.

Each pod is per load. That's true. Oh, challenge accepted, Chris. Tide pods are those candy colored thin. So delicious. They look so Willy Wonka. Tide pods. Spring Meadow scent.

Okay. to be specific, turbo laundry detergent pack, 81 load, tub. What is the price of that? And just so everybody knows, I got this from Amazon. Okay.

Oh, so it might be a lower. Okay. So, Colin. I said, $14.99. $17.99. Correct answer is 1897. Oh. I go to the Showcase Showdown.

Fun fact, on price is right. We see a lot of cars, right? Well, you can win a brand new car. A brand new car! Cars get shown more often during the show than other prizes because the show gets paid a flat fee every time the car appears. Right. It's an ad.

It's like an ad for the car. So it's like, you win a Chevy this. And they keep, and they get... And they list all the features. Featured air conditioning and DVD entertainers, yeah, right. Air conditioning. Yeah, oh, Fancy. Mr. Fence.

A millionaire's car. Next thing you can tell me it's got Windows. I read something about the prices right recently It was that you have to pay taxes on your prize So sometimes people were turning down prices Because they don't want to pay the taxes on it That's right I've also heard that most people by and large

Will take the cash equivalent for like these large Yeah for like these large value prizes It's a brand new car or a check for whatever Or it's like you're going on vacation Right Or we'll just give you the money Because then they take it and they think You pay the taxes out of it and they get the rest.

Do you need this boat? Yeah, right. I live in an apartment. Where am I going to put a boat? I read that there are also people outside the studio of taping and offering. Oh, really? Like if you win something, I'll buy it from you. Yeah, yeah.

It's like reverse scalpers. It's just like a dude just like pulling a boat home at the end of the day, just up a hill. It's like a real good deal on this. Yeah. All right. Next game show related questions. What game show features the song called Time for Tony? Time for Tony?

Time for Tony. Tony who? Yeah, interesting. Time for Tony. All right, answers up. Colin. I feel good about my guess, which is Jeopardy. I put Jeopardy as well.

is Jeopardy. Correct. It is Jeopardy. Now it's rebranded as the Think! Exclamation point. That's the title of the song. Oh, yeah.

If you want to buy like the 12-inch remix of it or something. Yeah. The 24-minute version. We all know it was written by Merv Griffin.

He wrote it as a lullaby for a son. Really? I think I've heard that. Yeah. So he can see in your head, it's very like lullaby-ish. And lightly and,

fringe is on I'm a little teapot You know Just a little bit A little bit Yeah Pour me out Yeah

Griffin estimated that Royalties from the theme song earned him About 70 million Yeah Yeah I bet

That's you know Royalties from a song He wrote for his own show Yeah That man That is He's the king He did a good job

He's the king And speaking In which I have a final Jeopardy question This was out of him A few months ago All right

So hopefully you guys didn't watch that episode. No. So here's a final Jeopardy question. All right.

Created in 1971, this company's logo has been likened to a wing and was supposed to connote motion.

And pour me out. Boom, boom. A little kettle drum there at the end. I don't. Colin,

you say. I believe it's Nike. Dana. I put Alair? What is Nike? It is Nike.

Yes, the wings of Nike, the goddess of victory. Yes. As my art history professor would pronounce it. Niquay. Mille Wauke. All right.

Next game show, we're moving on to the Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune. Old style Wheel of Fortune. It's a letter. Each letter has a tile. and Vanna White has to flip.

Right? Now it's all touchscreen, right? So how many touchscreen monitors are there on a wheel of fortune board? Jeez. If you can think about how many lines and you kind of estimate. Is it two or three rows?

Dana, tell me. I can tell you the insert in it. How many monitors are there? So if you fill it up all with letters. I'm trying to count the letters. Just give me an estimate. Chris is locked in I'm locked in

I'm not confident 36 we have to write to your letter I thought we were in the What's Your Answer stage I'm going to write down a different number

I'm going to write down a different number I'm sorry I wrote down 36 I wrote down 36 I said 60 The answer is 52 Chris wins again for close.

He went over. So this is a little fortune. Okay. So in case of very much, it's four rows. Yeah, that's four rows. I thought it was four again. First row is it's 12, 14, 14, 14, 12. Oh, it's not even symmetrical.

Or I guess it's symmetrical, but it's not balanced. I was calculating it based on four rows of 15 each. Oh, okay. Yeah, so close. Okay. All right, next game show. What game show lets losing contestants keep their jaunty colored sweaters? So they might not win a prize, but losers will take home what they were wearing on the show.

A jaunty. Like a... This isn't right, but they definitely have uniforms they were. Yeah. Think of a show and they wear uniforms. Huh. Or, you know, team color things. It's a sweater for sure.

That's a sweater. This is a Karen Chu childhood favorite game show. Maybe I got it right. That helps me. Not for kids. Right? Oh, really? Not for kids.

Oh, oh, oh. Because I know everybody's like, where in the world is Carmen San Diego? It is not. Everybody had a, okay, hold on. You said, not for kids. Not for kids. I've never heard of that, so I'd never write that down anyway. It's not for kids.

It was a Karen Shoe favorite, and they wore colorful sweaters. All right. I don't know. I have no idea. Lock it in. All right. I wrote couch potatoes. I've never heard of that show.

Supermarket sweep. I wrote Double Dare. I originally wrote Double Dare. Yeah. But you said not for kids. It is Supermarket Sweat. Yeah. Really?

Whoa. What is this show? You don't know what that is. I don't know. It's so great. I'm ignorant. It is a game show surrounding supermarket culture. It's set in a supermarket.

Oh, okay. Well, fake supermarket. There's like trivia rounds where you're trying to map. like the jingle to the brand or you do a little word puzzle you know what and then the last part is the best part yeah you get shopping cart and you have like a timed okay the most expensive stuff in you know what i've seen i've seen parodies of this show maybe with like on s and l with like melissa mccarthy or somebody without realizing okay all right i did a parody of it okay the show is very i'll have to check it out and it's a fake supermarket with fake meat and fake

cheese is it looks real but yeah what do you have to do you just have to like you have to at the end you have to there's certain items that are scattered throughout the supermarket that are worth more money yeah yeah you have to like we have to get above a certain amount of money right yeah so you pick those expensive things yeah big cheese yeah diapers yeah you have to grind the coffee to get so yeah and and eat contestants like there's three team and they all have like oh wow All right. Uniforms, basically. I'm going to have to check it out.

Like you watch it, and then you're like, what I would do. I love supermarkets. I will have to try this out. Yes. You know what, Dana? You're absolutely right. That show absolutely nailed the feeling of they're doing it wrong. This is what I would do.

If you were to be on a game show, which game show would you want to be? Oh, man. Oh, Jeopardy. Me now? Oh, Jeopardy. Really? Yeah. I jeopardy freaks me on double dare because a trivia is so easy on that show

who would always be like oh you should double dare us I don't know and then like the answer and then you make it to the last and then you have like a whole strategy for the obstacle course do you think you get your family on family double dare Dana you think your mom and dad would be down for that no we shouldn't do that we would dragging you up like the obstacle course I would choose... Supermarket Suite would be real fun. Kermas, San Diego. I mean, as an adult, I can't play it because I'm not a kid. Right, right, yeah.

Crystal Mays, which is a UK show. It's kind of like Legends of the Hidden Temple. That would be cool. Crystal May. So, UK listeners, I remember that show I used to watch it. Anyways, well, that's my Let's Make a Deal game show quiz. I wish I was fit enough to be on American Ninja Warrior. Oh, I love it.

It's so fun to watch. So when we settled on the topic of, let's make a deal. You. Yes. When I proposed it, internally I was thinking it's not, can I find a funny sports contract weird trivia nugget to share?

It was which funny, crazy sports contract nugget should I share? Sure. Because, I mean, sports negotiations, it's so much money is at stake, you know, millions and millions of dollars, and all these really weird kind of Byzantine rules about, salary caps and just how much you can pay a player and, you know, they're locked in and you get into these crazy negotiations with agents. So I'm a story for you guys about some interesting, funny, controversial, crazy sports

contracts, but this is all related to one player and one team, the Mets. So this segment is called Mets Make a Deal. And I apologize. Nice. Yeah, okay, all right, all right. So one of the great things about sharing sports stuff with you guys is that I can be, like, 99% sure that unless we're talking about a household name, you have no idea who I'm talking about, which is great. It's great. You guys are the tabular rasa of sports stories, right, right, unless it's Michael Jordan or, like, Tiger Woods or, right, yeah.

So I'm guessing and hoping that you guys may not be familiar with the baseball player Bobby Bonilla. I've heard his name. Okay, all right. Well, that's, I'll take that. Bobby Bonilla. Yeah, he's famous. He's, he's well known. Bobby Bonilla is associated with not one, but two of the most controversial deals the Mets have ever made. One of which has actually reverberated even beyond the world of sports. Oh. How's that? All right. So this year, the New York Mets paid Bobby Bonilla $1.2 million. Now, that's, I mean, that's, You know, I mean, to us, to us, that's a lot of money. But, you know, for a star baseball player, that's a fairly modest number, 1.2 million a year. That's just getting by.

Yeah, right. That's just, you know, walking around money. But at one point in his career, Bobby Bonilla, was actually the highest paid player in all of Major League Baseball. Wow. Wow. This was with the Mets on his first go-round with the Mets. Now, so he was paid $1.2 million this year. He's had some great deals in the past.

Now, before we go any further, though, there's one other detail you should know. Although he shows up on their payroll... He's a dog. There's no rule that says a dog can't play baseball. Bobby Benia is not a dog. Bobby Benia is a normal human man, a New York native. But even though he's on their payroll,

he won't actually be on the Mets roster this year. In fact, Bobby Benia has not played a game for the New York Mets since 1999. Oh, he's a big person. We're talking about a pretty good deal here. This guy's getting paid $1.2 million and it's not even having to lace them up here. All right. Let's back up a little bit here.

I want you guys to readjust your minds to the 1990s. Okay. All right. Easy. Okay. So Bobby Benia had been in the league for a few years already by the time we get to the early 1990s. And, you know, he had kind of a rough. start. He overcame a lot of obstacles as a rookie, but he was definitely a star on the rise. He was

a solid hitter, a smart hitter, most importantly, putting up really good numbers. And that's always a great thing to do right before you're a free agent. Because when your contract is expiring, you want to be playing really well because then it's like, all right, league, you know, I'm open to all offers, exactly. Are you playing poorly when you don't care, like when you don't have a contract coming up? I'm not going to name any names. But across all sports, there are definitely lots of examples of players who get a little fat and satisfied. Yeah. I mean, if you sign, you know, a five-year multi-million dollar contract, you know, to a cynical person, it's like you show up that next year.

You're like, all right, well, I've got my money. I can kind of relax a little bit. No, you always have to be. All right. Until the last year, your contract is up. Yeah, yeah. So Bobby Bonilla had a lot of interest before the 1992 season. and ultimately ended up signing a five-year, $29 million contract with the New York Mets.

Now, and as I say, that made him the highest paid player in all of baseball, all right? So, you know, $6 million a year, give or take. Salaries have since, of course, gone even higher in the time between. But that was not only objectively a lot of money now, but relative to other players, that was a lot of money. And everyone's kind of looking at the Mets like, whoa, okay, you're giving him how much? All right, he's good, but how much? Unfortunately, the New York Mets that year were not good. Not good.

They were not good. They went 72 and 90 that year. And losing in New York City as a way of exacerbating situations, as you guys can probably imagine, you are constantly under the spotlight in New York. And, you know, for all sports teams, if you sign the highest paid player in your sport, there's a lot of expectations. It's like, okay, well, let's see it. What are we getting for all this money that we're, you know, fans like to say we.

You know, we see how much we're paying him this year, you know, as if the fans are contributing. I mean, in a way, they are. They're buying tickets to the games. The Mets did not have a good season that year. And the criticism, a big chunk of the criticism fell on his head. It's like, hey, man, what are we paying you for? And he was having a good year. You know, he was, you know, people can now in retrospect, I've, you know, I'm certainly

not a baseball guy, but people who know more about baseball than I do, can look back now and say, yeah, you know what, for the money they paid him, it was a lot of money, but he, you know, they, they sucked, but it wasn't his fault. But, you know, big money has a way of drawing attention. So he was getting a lot of criticism. The team was getting a lot of criticism. And ultimately, unfortunately, they just decided, you know, we need to part ways. You know, we're, if we're paying you this much money and we're not winning, you know, what do we have to show for it. Wait, can you do that? Sure. You can trade players away. You know, you have all kinds of ways of parting ways of players. So you have a contract? Sure, you have a contract. Right. So you can trade somebody, and then the new team then takes on the terms of that player's contract. Oh, okay. Sure.

You know, there are some other scenarios. We'll get to in just a second, actually. I'm glad you're leading me here ahead. And, you know, they were still getting a flag for this huge contract from their fans, from sports writers, you know, from other teams. Because other teams are like, thanks a lot, Mets, you know, now that you've anchored the price of a star player at 29. million other players are coming to me say, well, if he's getting $29 million... They're not even winning. That's right.

Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, in some way, a rising tide lifts all boats in professional sports. So Bobby Bonilla bounced around for the next few years, and he had some good seasons after he left the Mets, actually. I mean, he won a World Series

in the process, I should say. He was on the 1997 Marlins team that won the World Series. And wouldn't you know it? Got traded, moved around. He ends, up back with the New York Mets, back with baseballs, New York Metropolitan's. Yes, the Mets. Well, what could go wrong this time, right? Sadly, a lot could go wrong this time. Once again, the team was in a period where they were underperforming, and Bania, again, faced a lot

of criticism. And, you know, honestly, this time a lot of it was fair. His numbers were just not as good as they had been. He was getting older. His production was declining. He was fighting with the manager. He was, There was a famous incident in the 1999 playoffs where while the Mets were out on the field being eliminated from the league championship series. So this is where you play to go to the World Series, all right? They were out on the field losing. Bobby Benia was in the clubhouse playing cards with Ricky Henderson. Another controversial player.

He wasn't playing in that game. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But that's not a good look to be in the clubhouse playing cards while your teammates are, you know, busting their butts on the field losing. They're getting toward the end of the 99th season, and the Mets are like, we got apart ways. We're paying you too much money.

It's not working out. The Mets owed him $5.9 million for the upcoming season. That's right. So they flatly did not want to pay him this money. They were very upfront. You know, he and his agent knew. So what are their options? You can trade him.

All right, but that means you've got to find someone who's willing to take on that salary. And at this point of his career, that was not looking too likely. You can just release him and eat the money. I mean, you can just say, all right, you're done. Here's a check. Go away. And now we have a spot in our roster. But did they have that money?

Right, exactly. But that's expensive. And you kind of cringe at that. Ultimately, in this situation, what they ended up doing was negotiating a very creative deal with Bobby Bonilla and his agent. Okay. That people are still talking about to this very day. that people are going to be talking about until 2035. Oh, my God.

Bobby Bonilla and his agent went to the Mets and they said, all right, you owe us $5.9 million. We will take a decade-long deferral on this money. You don't need to pay us a dime with some interest, but beginning in 2011, you will pay Bobby Bonilla $1.2 million every year until 2035. So essentially they set up like an annuity kind of style payment for him. Totally new for baseball.

Like this was just such a crazy situation. When all the payments were said and done, Bobby Benia stands to make $29.8 million. Because of interest. Over the extended period and interest, right, over what would have been a seed payment originally of $5.9 million. All right. So the Mets, they wanted a roster spot. They're like, we have our eye on someone we want to bring in.

So we need a roster spot. And we want to have money to pay this guy to bring in. So this is great for us. It saves a little bit of money. We can pay this new guy. Bobby Bonilla, if you're willing to wait, you know, God bless you. You'll set yourself up for life. You'll be fine.

But this is kind of crazy. This is a lot of money to be deferred, right? And like over a long time period. I mean, sometimes you'll defer for a year or two, right? So why would a team do this? Why would a team defer this much money over this long a period? Over a decade, and then pay out $29.8 million instead of $5.9 million. So, you know, people around baseball kind of just shook their heads.

They're like, there go those Mets again, just doing crazy Mets deals, you know, just penny-wise, pound foolish maybe. Right, because it sounds like robbing future you to pay current you. It does. It's like, well, I don't want to pay $6 million, but I'll make me from 30 years from now end up paying $20. $9 million over that course of time. It doesn't make any sense. Are you going to tell us why it actually makes sense? Chris, as it turns out, it makes no sense.

End of episode. As it turns out, the owners of the New York Mets were among the most prominent investors with Bernie Madoff, the legendary New York financial fraudster who ran a massive massive Ponzi scheme for decades, who had huge millionaire, billionaire clients. So the Ponzi scheme, again, very quickly, is basically you're taking money from new investors to pay the old investors, and you're lying to them and telling them like, oh, I've got these great investments working for you, getting huge rates of return. The Mets had as many as 500 accounts with Bernie Madoff, and for years, they were getting

returns of 12 to 18 percent on their money. Okay. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a huge rate of return. And it was essentially guaranteed. So the New York Mets had this side revenue stream whereby they figured, okay, well, we can invest this $6 million with Bernie Madoff. And by the time we have to pay Bobby Bonilla, we're going to have made $70 million on this money. And they had it all worked out. And it turns out they've been doing this for years, of course. Which is why you back up a little bit. One reason they were so willing to spend so much money in the 90s, they had approximately $500 million invested with Bernie Madoff. Oh my God. Like when he was busted and it all went belly up. You almost don't want to really call them victims because they were making a lot of money.

You know, they were the old investors getting paid off with new victims money. Right, right. Don't worry about Bobby Menea. His money is safe. His money is covered. Yes. In the aftermath. of the Bernie Madoff fallout, the Mets

actually had to borrow money from Major League Baseball itself just to make payments. That's how bad it was when things finally hit the fan there at the end. And so Bobby Benia, again, so he is now, what are we,

he's got his, we're now in the sixth year of his 25 years of payments. I love the idea that in 2035, all right, he's going to be in his 70s. Yeah, I was just going to be people on...

Does he have to show up? He doesn't have to do anything. He doesn't have to do anything. He does... So he actually played for a couple years after the Mets and he agreed to this deal. He was at the end of his career. His last couple years were not terribly productive. He finally retired two years after that.

And it was just sitting and waiting. He's doing fine just now. He actually, in a deliciously poetic coda to the story, he actually now works for Major League Baseball as well as advising. whizing young players on how to be financially savvy. Oh, I mean, because he won the lottery. Might drop. Great work, Bobby Bonilla's agent.

Bobby Bonilla and his agent, let's make a deal. Wonderful. Yeah, yeah, do not worry for him. Yeah, collecting that million dollars. No, you not cry for Bobby Ben. Every July, he gets a nice check from the New York Mets organization. So, yeah, next time you take a new job somewhere, ask for the Bobby Bonilla deal, which is where you get to retire.

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wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I have a little deal grab bag for you guys, grab bag quiz, that is. Let's do write down. All right. All right, to get the dreaded U.S. history question out of the way, I'll make that one first. What is the name for the series of programs instituted in the U.S.

to help the country recover from the Great Depression. Oh. Is this too obvious? No, probably not. I hope not. Because I'm writing the opposite answer. Everyone wrote. New Deal.

The New Deal. The New Deal. Yeah, the New Deal was a Roosevelt joint. Was the term New Deal coined before or after Roosevelt took office? Oh. What is that more? So did Roosevelt propose the New Deal as kind of a solution? for fixing it before he was in office

or after he was in office. Oh, oh. Yeah. You can do that after you're not president anymore? Oh, like, before he took office. She means like campaigning, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean.

Campaign slogan or wasn't it a... Exactly. Yes, thank you. Yes. Huh. I said before, I think it was a campaign. It feels like it. I put campaign.

I put campaign. He said it during the convention when he accepted the presidential nomination. Oh, man. Man, that's a good bomb to drop. Yeah. He didn't know that that was going to be the line. He didn't know that people were going to hook into calling at the new deal. He wasn't planning it to be like people latch onto it.

No. Neither he knew their speechwriter thought it was going to be the line. The line was just like, I feel like we need a new deal, right? Or something. The American people need a new deal. And then they're like, yes, we need a new deal. Yeah. What's the name of the protagonist from the classic German folktale who sold his

soul to the demon metastophiles. And his name is the adjective for these types of deals, actually. I know you know it. It's in your punchball, Karen, for sure. Read the question again? What is the name of the protagonist from a classic German folktale who sold a soul to the demon metastophiles? And so his name is the adjective for deal with the devil tropes. Yeah.

I wrote butt. but it's Faust I wrote Faustian bargain Faustian bargain What Stephen King book that was turned into a film in 1993 It was about a demon who spent centuries Traveling around the world

Tricking people into selling their soul for things Stephen King novel Made into a movie Yeah 93 That is late Yeah Mm-hmm

Hmm I don't think I'm right, but I wrote the Tommy Knockers. I put me, Joe Black. Oh, no, Chris has it. It's neatful thing. This is the Stephen Kinghole that I would follow. Yeah. Yeah.

And he'd be like, here's the rarest Nintendo game. I knew you were going to get it, Chris. You're like, yes, sold. There's a really good Rick and Morty episode based on Needful Things. Anyway. All right. So this one is just a word, kind of a word. question. A cheese monger sells cheese, a fishmonger sells fish. What does a coster monger sell?

Oh. Coster. Spell it? C-O-S. C-O-S-T-E-R, M-O-N-G-E-R. Fishmonger. What's the other example? Cheese monger. There's also iron monger. But what's coster? Coster. Coster phobia. I put Colt

I put custard I put clothing Like maybe costume Yeah these are all things That crossed my mind When I saw that word It's actually Fruit and Vegetables

Custer is a type of apple It was a type of apple Costoronger That's a good one to know You just know it or you don't Yeah Which fitness guru Popularized the deal a meal diet

Oh Deal a meal Yeah It's where you had cards And they had like different serving sizes Or different kinds of foods you can eat And you would spend your cards throughout the day Yeah

I'm waiting for a call and to lock in I think I have this Okay Oh I know I have this What do you got? Oh I wish I wrote what Chris wrote I put Richard Simmons I wrote Jack La Lane

But I wish I had written Richard Simmons It's the Richard Simmons Yeah Oh God, as I've shown on every info merch What five-word marketing phrase was first used by economist Joseph Calderon and John Van Lieu while running their highly profitable business Paco's Tacos in Central New Jersey? It's a five-word marketing phrase. Five-word marketing phrase.

Five-word. It's not no shirt, no shoes, no service. Six words. That's a good one. It's not really marketing. Five-word marketing phrase. Oh, Karen, wow, okay. Geez, marketing phrase.

Works for tacos. Oh, for sure. Yes, that's right. That's, yeah, I agree. I agree. The buck stops. You want crunchy or soft? You know.

Yeah, you know. But buy one, get one. Oh. Yes. Dang it. Bogo. Buy one, get one free. Bogoff.

Bogoff. You will. Poco's tacos. All right. Yeah. So what two-word phrase describes entering a binding agreement by intertwining the fifth phalanges

with another person. Oh. There's a couple possible answers to it. I think there's only one answer. Pinky swear. Pinky swear. Pinky swear. Pinky swear.

Yeah. You can say Pinky Promise also. Oh, really? I've never heard that. That's the alt. Yes. Pinky Promise. That must be a Connecticut saying.

No, no, no, no. We always say Pinky Sware. A breakable vow. The unbreakable vow. Their souls intertwined. Right, right, right. Good job, you guys. All right.

So I could only think of one way to end this, which is to talk about. The thing we all want to happen when we get up early on that Sunday morning and head out to that flea market, you know, we wouldn't head to go to the garage sale. You want to find the big score. And so here are some of the biggest garage sale flea market scores in history. Nice, nice, nice. One of these, we actually talked about in the show before. Fabricier egg?

Fabricier egg. Yes, exactly. There was a scrap metal dealer, went to a flea market, found in Obje dart. which was a golden egg, and he's like, oh, this is gold and jewels, I'll buy this, and I'll scrap it, and then he realized it wasn't really worth the scrap value. Like, he paid a couple thousand dollars, but it was too much. So it just sat in his kitchen, and then one day he realized that it was, in fact, a Faberge egg, was one of the birthday eggs made for the Russian czars, and he just happened to have it,

and it sold for, oh, you know, a couple million dollars. It was just ridiculous. Bobby Biniya, money. So, but this sometimes happens in other situations too. 1989, a guy went to a Pennsylvania flea market, bought a picture. Didn't like the picture, but he liked the frame. Starts to get to, you know, kind of taking the picture out of the frame. Frame falls apart.

So now he's got nothing. He's got a crappy frame that fell apart. He's got a painting he doesn't like. But between the picture and the frame was a folded up piece of paper. This folded up piece of paper was called a Dunlap, Brow. Broadside, the Dunlap Broadside, was one of the first 500 copies that were ever made of the Declaration of Independence. You're kidding me. I remember reading about this one.

Yep, yep. Who hid it there? The previous owner, like, it just must have been in a family for a really long time, and they put it in the picture frame. Yeah, it sold for, in 1991, it sold for $2.5 million. Wow. Nice. Or two bonillas. Two banea years.

The new unit That's in 1989 By the way In 2000 it was sold again To TV producer Norman Lear The creator of all in the family Bought it for $8 million Took it on a

Nationwide tour Where you can go see it Good for him He still owns it Yeah he did a good job with it Something that costs a little bit less money But is a very historically important thing 2004 guy in Chelsea New York

Looking through records at a yard sale He finds a record with a handwritten label that read Velvet Underground 42566. It's like, oh, yeah, the Velvet Underground, I should, you know, pick this up. Yeah, it turns out to be an acetate, so a temporary record that would have been, you know, put down for like just temporary, like, purposes in the recording studio. It's something you could, you just make it in the recording studio, you know, just to have, but it wasn't a professionally pressed record.

But it was early demos from the album of the Velvet Underground and Nico, which is the one with the the album with the Andy Warhol banana on the cover you can peel the banana

but it was never before heard early versions of these songs and it sold for $26,000 okay that's cool

and let's see 2007 family in New York buys a little bowl at a garage sale for $3 they like the design

just a handmade looking bowl put it on their mantle years later they're like you should figure out what this is they ask around

they ask some dealers it turns out the bowl is from the Northern Song Dynasty in China, that's 11th century, and it sold for $2.2 million. Literally, there was like only one other bowl that was sort of like that. It pays $3 for it? Yeah, it's a garage sale.

See, I... See, I... It does, you know, what always amazes me is the provenance of these items is, you know, I mean, like, not only has it survived this long without getting just smashed a million pieces, but at some point, somebody knew its value at some point, yeah, and it just lost to the midst of time, maybe.

Well, the thing is, you can't take it with you, and it's something that I try to remember as a collector as well. Eventually, I should do something with this stuff, because what happens is, like, if you keep all of this stuff, you die, and, like, your family doesn't know, doesn't care, you've passed on this big burden to your surviving relatives, and they go, and they're just like, oh, my God, we have to sell all this stuff from Grandma's house, and stuff. and stuff is going to slip through the cracks, you know, you've got to do something with it when you're alive. It's true, it's true. What are you going to do? If I have things, because I do have some things that are like one of a kind and important,

and those will go to a museum, basically. Oh, okay. So somewhere... You're a video game Indiana Jones. It's like, this belongs to the museum. No, I'm more of the video game Marcus Brody, actually. Nice. Wow.

Wow, that's a second-level Indiana Jones reference. Who plays him? So... Malcolm. Denham Elliott. There you go. Yes. The wonderfully confused.

And so a word of warning to close. A lot of times you will hear stories about amazing flea market fines and things like that. And sometimes people are using that as a cover story. There was a story. So there was a story that I saw. And I did a little bit more digging about a woman who said she bought a renwar for $3 at a flea market. But then when they started digging into it, it's like this, it had been stolen from a museum in like the 1960s. And then people kind of said like, oh, we remember like her mother having this.

I'm not saying her mom stolen or anything. I'm just saying like she was making, she might have been making up a cover story. It's like laundering it basically. Yeah. So do your digging. But the ones that I told you about are definitely happened. All right. And that's our show.

Show. It's funny because every time we do a show, I want to do, like, what we talked about. I'm like, oh, I'm all jazz looking for good scores. And try out negotiating tactics and go on the game show. Just like how last episode we talked about bagels and Burger King in Mattoon, Illinois. I was like, I know, I just want a big bagel. Thank you guys for joining me.

Thank you guys, listeners for listening in. Hope you learn a lot of stuff about negotiation tactics. Bobby what's his face I hope you learned a lot about Bobby Watson's face Bobby Bonilla Bobby Bonilla It just like goes into a little void

Bobby Bonilla for the Mets Game shows and more you can find out Bobby the dog that played face off I think we all remember that story They paid him in milk bones A million a year, right? Bernie Madoff had a hookup to the milk bones.

You got it. You got it. It was a poochy scheme. Iron vault. Iron ball. Yeah. Poochee scheme. Yeah.

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