Good Job, Brain! - 201: You Know, For Kids!

Episode Date: June 5, 2018

Get your best burp cloth ready for a real spewing of facts and trivia all about kids. Of course, Karen's got her baby edition of Nightmare Animals, and Dana has prepared her first ever themed Music Round! Colin found out about the phenomenal history of nursing human babies with GOATS. Ever wonder how TV and movie "newborn" actors get casted, and what actually goes on during a baby delivery scene? And Chris gives us the ultimate Kid's Movies quiz with a surprising twist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, joyful jump and jester's jonesing for Jabber Rocky and Jiggly Puffs. You're listening to Good Job, Rain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 201. And of course, I'm your humble. host Karen and we are your not to be duped coop of loopy snoops who boop the snoots and drink goopy soups. I'm Colin. I'm Dana.

And I'm Chris. These used to all make sense at some point, but now I'm just like, what sounds funny? Oh, yeah, I like that one. I was like, we do boop the snoots. So one thing, guys, that I recently now have access to is Netflix. Oh, okay. Do you guys know there's movies on there? Have you heard of Netflix?

Am I saying that right? Sometimes you like to chill? I didn't recently, I didn't have it for like a year. Yeah, you had a very spartan existence there. And so, yeah, with my hobo apartment with my one light. Your shotgun shack. Yeah, yeah. Your pile of blankets.

A can of beans. So now that I have access to Netflix again, I was like, wow, not only of the movies, But, like, as an adult, I'm so more drawn to, like, non-fictional documentary-style shows. And Netflix has tons. Yeah. Like, tons. Yeah, not just from here, there's Australian ones. There's, like, British ones.

And I think as a kid, when you watch, like, say, the Oscars, they always have, like, the best, you know, short-form documentary award or the best documentary. I was like, how do you even watch those movies? Like, where do you go to watch those short and stuff? And now it's, like, Netflix just has all of these. And I just watched so many of them. Like, food is my preferred documentary about, you know, chefs. Yeah, see, whereas mine is about murders of different kinds.

Drug traffic. Yeah. So the craziest fact or enlightened moment I had recently was I was watching a Netflix documentary on fermentation, on food fermentation. Huh. Okay. And there is a strong theory behind dogs. We always associate dogs with a bone.

They're going to dig a hole in the yard and bury the bones. They store it, you know, like a squirrel. The main theory is that they're actually digging a hole so that the bone can be in the hole and ferment. What? Okay. And so that it becomes softer and easier to chew on, you know, tendons. And we're thinking like the proto wolf dogs, you know, they're hunting and they got a, you know, zebra leg or whatever. Deer leg.

Yeah, yeah. It's not zebra, but it's like Africa. Whatever they catch, whatever they catch. And even though they have powerful jaws, bones and tendons from the stuff is like really hard for them to chew. And it's like, they can't be humans and cook the food. And so they bury it to ferment it so it becomes softer and easier to. That's so fascinating. Get their calories and their nourishment.

And I was like, oh, this is the theory. And obviously after centuries and millions of years of dog, from proto dog to our current, you know, lap dogs like they still have the instinct and yeah i mean we've probably and they have probably lost even whatever uh memory their species would have had of why they did it yeah yeah that's what i yeah i was assumed it was like what it's like some of the big cats right like they'll stash kills and trees for later right i always thought it was like kind of that behavior of like oh i'm come back and get this later keep it safe all right enough of dog talk let's jump into our first my patented dog talk uh let's jump into our first general trivia

segment pop quiz hot shot and usually i have a random trivial pursuit card but we have a trivial pursuit scratch scratch book that i'm going to use i'm going to ask you guys some trivial pursuit questions and you guys buzz in with your answers listeners play along y'all out the answer people in places first question what country gave birth to the panama hat oh panama hat is like a flat, wide brim a little hat, Colin. I had this in one of my quizzes. I should know this.

It's not Panama. Was it Ecuador? Yes. Okay, I'm glad I got this right. Good job. Yeah, because that's like where they were exported out to the rest of the world, I believe. Ecuadorian.

Oh, but they, yeah. Trick question. Next question. Arts and Entertainment. What author of the Gashley Crum Tini's wrote and illustrated a book every year for 47 years. Chris.

Edward Gory. Correct. Prolific. These are like the kind of children's book that are kind of gory. They're very creepy. But in the whimsical way. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Ha-ha creepy. Ha-ha death. You know. For kids. History. What was the first city

to be illuminated? with electric street lamps in 1882. Colin. Was this New Orleans, Louisiana? Incorrect. Is it Paris? Incorrect. Good guess.

The city of light. Yeah. The city of one light. Not sure. It is New York City. Nobody wanted to say that. Yeah. It sounded so obvious.

Yeah. They need something. They needed a win. Something to hang their hat up. Yeah. Need it a win. All right. For science and nature, what sacred plant did the druids use to treat arthritis and epilepsy according to Pliny the elder?

Hmm. Oh, interesting. What ancient plant or sacred? Sacred plant. I don't know. Huh, okay. To arthritis. Maybe a secret to them.

Yeah. Dana So this is a plant A willow bark? No, it's a plant Oh, aloe pharaoh? No, but good guess Marijuana

No, good guess Is that a new world plant, you think? Something anti-inflammatory Sacred plant I had no idea this is used for herbs anymore It is mistletoe That's a good question Yeah

mistletoe. It's poisonous, right? That's what I know about it. It was like you're not supposed to eat. The dose makes the poison, as they say. True. Maybe it didn't work. Yeah.

Yeah, it turns out everybody just died. Extremely low efficacy. They were like, do we cure your arthritis? You're not worried about arthritis anymore. Oh, your liver failed. Okay. You've got new problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Next question, sports and leisure. What game did the Minneapolis Public Library ban after repeated incidents where spectators screamed obscenities at security guards. What game? What game did the Minneapolis Public Library ban? After repeated incidents where spectators screamed obscenities at security guards. Chris. Man, I wish I knew a year.

Chess. It is chess. Really? Yeah. I'm just trying to think of, you know. I don't know why they're showing at a security guards. I need some context on this. these questions are not like the card questions

let us let us know if you're if you're shut and obscenities during games of chess while watching games of chess right in and tell us why you did it maybe they were loud while they were watching and the security guards try to like quiet them just kind of like became a hey you don't tell me

what to do I'm watching chess I'm hardcore all right last question wildcard what generous soul is the patron Saint of Pawn Brokers. Oh. Patron St.

of pawnbrokers. St. Anthony. Incorrect. I'm just guessing. I'm just naming saints. Do you know, Chris? St. Nicholas. Yes.

Oh. Generous. He's generous. Oh, like St. Nick? Yeah. It's the same one. Yeah, same guy. Same guy.

Oh, like St. Nick? What do you want a first name basis? You mean, Nicky Saints? Nickie Sacketpresses From down the block Nicky the Claws Nicky the Claws Like Santa Claus

Yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah Good job brains All right So this week In the spirit of Three of four hosts on Good Job Brains

Who have Toddlers, babies, newborns and something in between what do you call the age between like toddler is two yeah right newborn is just born I have a three nager oh three a three nature oh my god I love these like that's what they say three major because that's when they that's been they that's been a turn against you yeah what about four I don't know haven't gotten there yeah look I'm just staying two weeks ahead of this kid that's all I can do The turkey, the four-bagger.

I'm sure that's it. The five-hole. And to celebrate you guys as a new generation, we're going to theme this episode, all around kids. You know. You know, for kids. You know, for kids. I search for the beating.

It's deep down. Down to all the out without going. So, yes, Karen, as you alluded to, just a multiple-week-old baby girl at home, hard. It's still hard for me to get my head around. Just, you know, even saying the words, my daughter, you know, my wife and I were talking about. Like, it's like as weird as you feel when you first get married and you're like, my wife, you know, my wife. You know, my husband. Well, if you say it that one, that's how I always say it. I'd like one and another one for my wife. Now you can go and be like, yes, and another genitoneck for my daughter. My baby.

Newborn baby. But no, she is a ball of sunshine and poop. Mostly, she's a ball of sunshine and poop. She does. That occupies most of. her day when she's not sleeping. You know, I'm learning as a new parent all the stuff that I think probably every new parent goes through these days. Like you're, you just, you load up on the information. Like it's like videos or podcasts, books, like advice from whoever you can get. And you're trying to just like distill it all into one approach. It's a lot of information. Everybody's got some advice for you and it's all contradictory. Totally. Totally. And a lot of it is solicited advice. A lot of it is unsolicited advice. And you kind of take that as it goes. I definitely take in a very good job brain approach to learning it. It's like it's so much trivia

and secret histories and weird facts about this little creature who now shares our house with us. And you know, I'm learning. You should get that creature out of there. Yeah. Because the creature's bothering the babies. Dad,

you guys are. Say your dad joke at the same time. Dad joke, to be fair, they give you when you leave the hospital. you a book. Oh my goodness. It's, you know, the, it's stereo, one on my left and one on my right. The one sense that definitely being a dad has turned on as my dad sense of humor, you know, which was, you know, I would not to say dormant, but maybe, you know, could have been amped up. The other instant becoming a father has triggered my sense of cheapness just instantly, you know, like, we took the baby into the pediatrician

visit and like, time to change the diaper. Rookie dad mistake, what do I do? I take a diaper out of our own bag as opposed to taking one of the free diapers they have there. And, man, like, I tell you, like, it burned me for the rest of the day. I'm like, could have used that free diaper. They had them right there. What am I doing with our own diaper? You know, I just developed, it's just genetic. I've just developed an obsession with a thermostat. Who turned this thermostat? We don't turn this thermostat down. Turn this thing down. So I'm learning a lot and finding a lot of just fun, you know, interesting things. One of the things I came across was an awesome book. I have no connection to this book. This is a plug that I enjoyed the book. The book is called Baby

Meets World by author Nicholas Day. And it's a funny, insightful, very trivia history-oriented. Like Bill Bryson. You know what? Very much so of a Bill Bryson approach to, yeah, the history of here's how the ancients and here's how just, you know, secret things that you may not have known about raising a baby. From this book, I learned a lot of really interesting things. And we'll come back in the second. So one thing I've learned first, hand experientially is nursing. Nursing is hard. Nursing is a big deal. And I'm not even the one on the clock, so to speak. Like, you know, from TV and movies, it's just like, oh, baby, baby just starts nursing, no problem. It's beautiful. And it is beautiful, but there is a lot of work that

goes into it. There are a lot of ways it could go wrong. There are a lot of just hurdles that you might have to deal with. And so I was really interested reading about your time of feeding the baby breastfeeding, specifically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But when I say nursing, I mean, specifically breastfeeding mother's milk into the baby, it's hard. It's a big deal. And I know there are a lot of moms out there saying, yeah, no crap. Yeah. I got one right here.

He's saying, yeah, I know. Yes, Colin. But no, it's something that you do not realize. Yeah, yeah. You don't think about it before. You just think it's like the water dispenser. Yeah. Yeah.

Turns out and comes right out. And, you know, so one of the really I learned from this book in particular really drove home the point is like yes nursing is hard but it's hard enough even now you know when my wife and I were fortunate enough to have the time you know time off work time at home both of us can be there we have all these experts giving us advice and helping us and it's still it's there are some hurdles that we have to get over so learning about how much of a challenge nursing was in history just over it's it really blew my mind some of the things that um civilizations and people have had to deal with, right? So, okay, first of all, I've heard the term wet nurse, right? You know,

the wet nurse, like, okay, it's like that's someone who breastfeeds your baby for you, right? Okay. I had no idea, like, how important wet nursing has been through history, especially, like, as we come into, like, the industrial age, like, just at the dawn of the industrial age in particular. Karen. Maybe you'll answer this. Yeah. I've heard the term, but never really, I just thought it was like a babysitter or like a, like a, like a, a male. or something. That's the dry nurse. Oh, she breastfeeds the boot.

The wet nurse, yeah. How does she have, how is she producing milk? She is a mom. Right. So the, she has her own baby. She has her own baby. So it's like kind of double duting. Like, you know, I'm doing this so might as well.

Yeah. Other babies can. Oh, okay. Interesting. All right. Right. So, yeah. So, I mean, people long ago, long ago figured out like, oh, you know, babies will

eat food if we mash it up with some water, make it easier for them. Babies will even drink animal milk if we put in a little thing and mix it up. And, you know, so we find all these civilizations have solved this problem a long time ago. The bottles may not look like our bottles, but they had, you know, proto bottles of giving babies food. The problem that arose with a lot of these old style approaches was germs, like was keeping the stuff clean. You know, babies were just getting sick drinking out of a vessel or something like that, you know, ceramic, you know, handmade pottery. So wet nursing really, you know, really became very important. Once people kind of got their heads around, oh, disease and germs, and this is how it works. So you combine that knowledge with, so imagine we're coming into like 16, 17, 1800s. Say you're a woman, a working woman, right? You know, you've got a baby. You're not going to get maybe, if you're lucky, you know, more than a few days off, you know, from your job at the textile mill or whatever. Like, you don't, there's no modern maternity leave. So wet nursing became really important as they were working women, you know, had to support families.

And if you were wealthy enough, you know, you could have a nice, fancy wet nurse or a wet nurse clinic even, like right in your city. And, you know, you just drop your baby off and do what you had to do and come back and get the baby later. But once those all filled up and once all the wealthy people, you know, kind of raised the prices, the women, working women and poorer women still had the need to wet nurse. they just started sending the babies further and further and further out of town. So you got to have this whole regime of basically countryside wet nurses. Like you would send your kid out in the sticks almost like a little mini border, you know, just because that's where they need to get the good milk, you know, and I need to be able to go work at the textile mill or whatever to support my family.

And you might go out and visit the baby in the country. You might send for them. And all kinds of crazy things. happened out on these countryside wet nursing clinics or I don't want to say milk factories it sounds a little industrial

really milk factory they said that at one point in the history of Paris virtually every woman didn't matter you were rich poor your baby was being wet nursed and huge amounts of them were out in the countryside that said like Paris was like the city

with no babies at one point you know kind of just metaphorically this practice kind of faded a little bit, but it lasted like into the 20s even. Like, it would be pretty common, not common, but it was known to have the outpatient sort of wet nursing. If you were a

wet nurse, you know, so as Dana said, like, you're a mom yourself. So if you're a poor wet nurse, you can kind of imagine like you're just running to keep up. You know what I mean? Like, because you're nursing your own babies as well as maybe having to nurse two or three or four other babies

along the way. It sounds really stressful, again, not having to do any breastfeeding myself. So let's say we know what we know, that like, okay, babies can take animal milk. We know this. So what if you're, imagine you're living somewhere where you don't have access to a proper wet nurse? What if you're somewhere where you don't have either a countryside to send them to or a little clinic in town, but maybe you've got some livestock around?

Oh, yeah. You just feed the baby directly. You just feed the baby right off the livestock. And this has been happening. nipple from? Yep, yep. They just suck the nipple right off of the animal. Now, I have to say this really opened my eyes when I read this, but

this has been going on for hundreds, if not thousands of years. That makes sense. Sheep, donkeys, cows, goats. Dogs? You know, probably dogs. Probably, I mean... Whatever they can get. Basically, I think, you know, what the author

he says here in his book is like, if it produced milk and they could get a baby to latch on, they would try it. They would at least try it. Goats apparently were really, really, really good at nursing human babies. You know, because it's kind of like you've got to factor in all of the things, right? They're smallish. Yeah, so I guess like donkeys and asses were good, but they were really expensive.

Horses were far too dangerous because you don't want to be having your baby or a horse. I guess cows, you know, my first eye was like, oh, cows, you know, just like the udders are too big. apparently. It's literally too hard to get the little baby to latch on. That's kind of what I was thinking. I was like, we put the baby on the cow. It's big. So in the late 16th century, Montaigne, the French writer, he wrote, it is common around here to see women of the village when they cannot feed the children at their breast, call the goats to the rescue. And this was a well-studied phenomenon. There were books about goats and why they were so well-suited to being wet nurses.

So I guess it was the shape and the size of the goat teat is just perfect. They have, they're pretty well-tempered. I guess the goats are smart enough. Again, I'm reading this book. The goats are smart enough. They could come to learn the individual cries of their charges, right? You know, so if this goat is nursing, you know, little baby Chris or baby Dana or baby Colin.

Is that where they're nanny goats? You know, I think, I think that there is a double meaning there in the nanny goat. Right. there's an anecdote about a child in a house where the goat would run up the stairs when she would hear the baby when she would hear the baby crying yeah now you want to hear about it really Colin I got some bad news for yeah okay now how do you how do you nurse a baby on a goat they had specially designed low cradles yes so the baby would be in the low cradle and they would literally the goat would just kind of come just stand over stand over the

cradle kind of dropped down nurse away and they liked it they liked it they liked it and it was giving the babies the nutrition it was keeping them it was i mean it's it's sterile i mean it's you know it's clean it just happens to be from a goat the milk part is but not necessarily the goat's nipple i like to i i would hope that they would wipe it down with the game like if it runs in from outside and squats over the baby's cradle apparently one step further even Some hospitals employed goats to suckle any babies with congenital syphilis because syphilis could be transmitted by nursing. So the goat will have syphilis.

Yeah. As opposed to the wet nurse. They might not because of the species. Yeah, yeah. The goat would not get it. At a hospital in Ex-in-Provence in the early 19th century, a visiting doctor reported the goats not only recognized the infants under their own care, but went to go nurse them on their own initiative, the goats would just come stand over the cradle.

A century later, a visitor to a different French hospital reported, Goats came to know the baby so well, each would run to her nursling when it cries. I mean, I'm just imagining, in my head, the goats have, like, the little, like, you know, like, nurse hat on and everything, you know, it's like, it's a very medical, sanitized environment. But I have a feeling it's like, it probably smelled like a mix of hospital and barnyard in there. Right, right. Keep them clean. the primary reason that this fell out of favor, you know, was

So partly, partly, yes, it was that they started developing, you know, what every formula, formula, for one thing, like, yeah, a regularized formula, reliable bottles to put your milk of choice in and the formula in. Sterilization, understanding of germs, understanding of why things get dirty. That was part of it. But from what the author says is like, at least in, at least in Europe. parts of the world that I'm talking about with the goats and the goats in the hospitals. It was more of a psychological approach. So remember, like, this was like the time period where they really thought, like, you know, oh, unsavory people can have unsavory children, you know, or a bad temperament, you know,

and a mom can lead to bad temperament and a child. So the thinking was like, well, who knows what a goat is going to be doing to the psychological makeup of my child as it grows up. Yeah, it's not, it's not anything to do with the nutrition or the fact that your baby has their lips around a goat teat. You know, infants nursed by animals were said to be, quote, fierce and not like men. The idea was like, you know, it's like a gray stoke, legend of Tarzan kind of thing. Raised by goats instead of wolves or whatever. Instead of raised by humans. So when I come back to my home and think about the challenges we're facing with nursing today.

That it could have been a goat. Let's buy a goat. It's like those cars with the big red ribbons. It's like a goat. Wow. I'm just like, oh, the goat's going to step on the baby.

Yeah. But apparently. They're very spright, right? They're very quick, quick reflex. Well, like they'll quickly step on the baby. They might headbutt the ball.

That's what, like, young goats do. You don't want to get a mountain goat because they're going to climb to the top of the baby. That's the problem. Yeah. It feels really. good to be productive, but a lot of the time it's easier said than done, especially when you

need to make time to learn about productivity so you can actually, you know, be productive. But you can start your morning off right and be ready to get stuff done in just a few minutes with the Inc. Productivity Tip of the Day podcast. You'll hear advice on everything from how to build confidence to how to get the best night's sleep. New episodes drop every weekday and each one is five minutes or less, so you only have to listen a little to get a lot more out of your weekdays. Subscribe to Inc. Productivity Tip of the Day wherever you get your podcasts. That's Inc. Productivity Tip

of the Day, wherever you get your podcasts. Goats have rectangular square pupils. Yeah. That's why they look creepy. Like, they look kind of weird when you, I mean, they're cute, but they're also like, something's wrong. Yeah.

Pupils are like, weird. Square pupils. It's very strange. All right, Colin, well, you said in the beginning of your segment, like TV and movies kind of condition. us. They're like, oh, this is how babies are born. And always ask myself, how do they film TV scenes or movie scenes when they have to deal with a live birth or, you know, or, you know, any baby related delivery scene? How do they get these newborn baby actors? What's the process of casting a baby in your movie for a delivery newborn scene? And I found out. I was just talking

with somebody about this. I was wondering. And, you know, they're usually like, covered in blood and goo. It's like, you're like, what's going on here? Is this real or fake? So nowadays, those newborn babies for movie scenes,

most of the time, they're fake. For a long time, they would use dolls. And now we're at a point where they can make really life-sized dolls that, you know, can kind of move or blink,

or sometimes it's CG. Yeah. Or they would add the goop and all the stuff via CG. There's still some productions that actually do hire newborn babies, and this is, and it's a really weird world. It's funny to say hire, as if, like, the baby has any agency. Yeah. I know.

It's just, they don't have agency, but they're higher. Here's some of the requirements for the state of California and also SAG, which is Screen Actors Guild. The Actors Guild. Oh, I'm so curious about this. Okay. Number one, infants have to be more than 15 days old. Okay. You can't literally go grab a newborn baby and bring it to the studio.

You can't pop out the baby and then just bring it in. Yeah. Also, you can't film a live birth. If an actual actress or someone is pregnant and giving birth, you can't film it because that baby is not 15 days old. Oh, okay. And so for a lot of, you know, the crowning scenes where you actually see the baby pop out, that's usually dolls and models and props.

Yeah. Also, they usually don't show that. No, they don't. No, except for a miracle of life. Not because of the baby, but because of the various accoutrements around the environment. The mise encein. Yes. And if the babies are under six months old, they're allowed on set for only two hours a day.

Okay. That doesn't mean they work two hours a day. That's to be on set for two hours a day. They can only work at most 20 minutes. Okay. Yeah. So when you're filming a scene, they can only, if they're, if they're, sleeping you probably don't wake them up right um you're kind of on the baby schedule and this is more

of a sag rule for every three children a bit between 15 days and six weeks there has to be a nurse there has to be a teacher which i'm not that clear i understand like the set the set teacher yeah and a legal guardian or parent has to be present you have to have work permit from the parents or guardian, you have to have a note from a licensed doctor saying that the child was not born prematurely. So you can't use, they used to use premiums. Because they could get around the age requirement. Because they look newer because they're under, they're a little bit underdeveloped.

And so they can be 15 days old, but now there's a rule in place to protect that. So the doctor has to say, this baby was not born premature. it's a normal birth weight and in the doctor's opinion all the organs are kind of fully developed for the situation's on set and so when you're only working 20 minutes at a time

and with a fickle you know sleeping or eating schedule casting agents go after twins or triplets because they look the same similar same size close enough same hair color and so if one baby is asleep and you know 20 minutes is up, then the other baby, they have a backup baby and continue to see that way. You just kind of rotate through the babies.

Yep, yep, yep. Also, when you have like triplets or quintuplets, the babies generally are smaller. Oh, so. That's like, and pass as younger. Yeah, so it's not technically premature, but, but it's, you know, they get the benefit of the baby's like, I'm two months, but my range is one month to four months. There are a lot of people in the L.A. area when they have babies they will set up a page and

yes there are they would be like my baby is available for casting and what gives you the edge is going to be if you have twins or triplets what gives you the edge is if your baby doesn't like sleeping one of one of the dads you know said that at auditions

they would just have a bunch of babies show them auditions the ones who are a wig usually get the edge because you can't tell you know what the baby's quote acting ability are when they're asleep. How much does a baby, newborn baby actor make?

I'm sure that SAG requires There's got to be a minimum scale. Yeah, yeah. So technically, the babies are hired as background actors most of the time. Background actors receive a day rate of like $130 for 20 minutes of work.

That's not bad. If you break it down by screen time, it's pretty good. Yeah. And the SAG. actually has rules about what you can put on the baby to simulate the

the birthing and I learned and you guys are parents now but I learned it is called vernex casosa which stands for varnish cheese cheese cheese varnish I didn't really I didn't know that

because it's like an oily kind of protect them yeah yeah and everyone said oh it's miracle stuff maybe on the set somebody's just Diffing a nacho in there are guidelines of what you can use to to fake the goo and the things are allowed is grape jelly, cherry jelly, but no strawberry, no raspberry. No K.Y jelly. Yeah, because of allergies. Yeah.

Because you don't necessarily know, you got a 16 day old baby and it's like, you don't know how allergies they had. Oh, I just covered in strawberry. For $130. $130. And so I'm thinking, and I'm doing all the speeches, I'm thinking, well, someone famous must have been a newborn baby actor. Right. It's been a long enough history. No, they're not a lot of, like, the famous babies from famous movies and stuff.

They're just, well, there is, there is one big. And I know you know. And but like most of these babies, some don't really pursue acting and they don't really become a big celebrity. They don't live up to their potential. There is, however, one famous movie baby that became famous. Chris knew it. But it's not because of the acting ability of the baby. It's because of nepotism.

Yes, indeed. Oh, I do. Okay. The nepotism I have a guess now. It is baby Michael from the godfather. Yes. It was Francis Coppola's daughter, Sophie. Yeah, that's right.

I do. So, yeah, there you go. That is really fascinating. We, you know, we started talking about this. My sister and I were talking about this because there were one, maybe even more than one, Super Bowl commercials this year with a lot of, like, young babies in them. And we got to talking about, like, how do they cast these babies? I'm like, I'm sure it's a parent's, I mean, obviously, it's a parent-forward kind of thing.

But just, yeah, I had so many questions of like, what do they have to pay them? Do they have to have a little mini-baby sag card? Do they have to, yeah. Well, so I read somewhere I couldn't really confirm. it was that children under four are protected under the same terms of a SAG contract, even if it's

not a member. You don't know if they don't have a contract. That seems fair. Yeah. I couldn't find the right language. But it's like once you turn four, you got to get that SAG contract. You've got to start paying those new news.

It's like Disneyland, you know, under a certain age is free. As a new parent, the idea of going through all that stress of getting your baby cast in a movie and go. And you're like, are they going to be awake? Is he crying? What's going on for $100?

And like, maybe being in a movie that may be good, maybe sucks and it's embarrassing. At 15 days. Like, you're not sleeping. You're not making good choices about anything. I just, I just think, maybe that's why. If I had my coffee on day 15, I considered that a triumph, like, let alone. I mean, it's very, you have to be proactive as if you have to go to find these castings, go to the castings, have your baby. Wow.

And then what was the movie, was it American Sniper the one a few years ago? Like everyone was like ridiculing the movie because they had the fakesst looking baby. Like everyone was like, that is so obviously just a rubber little doll. You remember Twilight when Bella and Edward had their baby? Oh, yeah. Sludgy. Yeah. You know what?

They're probably, they probably use the same methods with that baby that they'd used in movie after movie after movie. But now it's like it's getting recorded in HD. Yeah, you're right. And it's getting shown in the theaters in digital. And you can't tell now. You used to be able to get away with. You can't get away with anymore. So I just looked up the Twilight Baby because I was like, that thing was so creepy and terrible.

And the doll producer refers to it as one of the most grotesque animatronic babies ever to not be seen on film. And like they hated it so much. They went to CG with it. But the CG was still really bad. The baby's name in the movie was really. Nesme and they called it Chukesme. It's like Chucky. Yeah, the American Sniper one was brought a lot of controversy because it's like

Sienna Miller is like nursing this doll. Offing her nipple into like a kind of like, you know, lifeless like the mouth is like already opened. It's very uncanny mouth. Or barcical. Yeah. The beauty of nursing. I'm like a doll.

Ma, ma, ma. Yeah. No frills, delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Okay, well, we have talked about kids in the movies, so now let's have a quiz about Kids Movie. Yay.

You're never too old to enjoy a good kids' minds. movie. This is a quiz. I've assembled a list of films that are great for kids. Great for kids totally appropriate for kids. I assume because I've only read the titles of these films, but they sound like they would be really, really good movies to watch with your kids. Again, I'm just really going based off the titles here. Titles sound real good. So I will describe, I've only actually seen the titles, but I'll tell, I'll describe you guys the film. based on what I know from reading the title. You can tell me what kids movie I'm describing.

Okay. Okay. So I will describe the title. Very Chris. For you. Yes. Hold on one second. Just by the title.

I mean, the thing is we do that with the Lifetime movie where it's like we're already in our head formulating. What is that about? Yeah. It's true. Here we go. So I will describe the film to you. Okay.

This is a movie about sheep who are very quiet. Karen. What is this? Silence of the lamb. Silence of the lambs. Yeah, sounds to a really good. Just calming.

Movie for a kid. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fluffy and quiet. Just fluffy and quiet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This next movie, this movie is definitely about some adorable puppies. Puppies who live next to a lake.

that i think that lake serves as a water supply for a town perhaps but anyway the puppies live near the lake i guess they splash around in the water some some puppies by a lake that serves as a water supply. Puppies down by the old water supply. Dana? Reservoir dog. Reservoir dogs. Yes. I'm like lake dogs. Rain dogs. Yeah. Reservoir dogs. A great

film. And the characters are all like Mr. Pink. Exactly. It's educational. The movie is about the value of teamwork. It's true. And sharing. Okay. So this next movie sounds really good. It's about a delicious fruit that has a secret. The

fruit is made of metal parts like a Colin? A clockwork orange A clockwork orange A clockwork orange A clockwork orange

All kids love That does seem That could be like a You know Sesame Street Yeah No it definitely is It's got fun slang

Kids can learn Right right right No and you know And it teaches the value Of making sure you drink your milk Every day This next movie is just about I think just some really nice guys

Just some real stand-up individuals. A bunch of high-quality buddies. Karen. A few good men. You know, that is, that's actually not a bad answer. I was thinking of something different. Something even nicer.

More pleasant. Even nicer. Just a bunch of guys who are just swell. It's a bunch of great friends. A bunch of great friends. Karen. Good fellow. Yes, that's what I was thinking of.

Few good men is good, too. That's not bad. This next movie is about a guy who is really lucky Because he always remembers his favorite lucky number Colin Is it 7? It's 7 About the world's luckiest little boy

Kids love opening up boxes Kids love boxes They love boxes Yeah like what yeah So this next movie is about just getting down Partying when the sun goes down in the evening Everybody just likes to dance at the evening

and they dance they just get down but it's probably not they just you know after after the day time and they just start to they just got to get funky and just get down and dance

boogie nights boogie nights that's a great real good kid here's a good movie everybody loves kids love cars and trucks and everything like that

and if you need to get somewhere in a hurry, you find this nice man in his big yellow car, he'll get you where you're going in a flash. You just call him, and he'll take you where you're going in his car. A real nice guy. Yeah. Taxi driver. Everybody's friend. Travis, the taxi driver.

He'll always make sure, wait, are you talking to me? Because I want to be sure that I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to be sure that I understand. Yeah. Just all about communication. Yeah. of communication. Finally, this movie is about a large vermilion beast

that soars through the sky and breathes fire. Yeah? Wow, nice bookends. Thank you. Red dragon. Red dragon. Oh, nice. I see friends with all the little sheep.

As far as I know, great movies. Kids approved. Nice. The Chris Kohler Film Festival will be kicking off this year. Yeah. Actually, that is a good kind of. a good Chris Culler movie festival. You have your

Silence of the Lamb series, your gangster movies. That's true. That's true. So for this episode, I wanted to find cool animal facts of very awesome moms in the animal world

and how they take care of their babies. And it kind of went the opposite. Like, I found one nice thing. And then I read about this whole, like, phenomenon. And so the one thing, nice thing is I'll keep it short, but there is a type of bird in the desert in the African desert called the sand grouse. Well, you know, with sandgrouse babies in a nest, like how do you

provide them water in such a arid place? And they're probably high up somewhere. And so what the sand grouse parents do is their bellies have a special type of feather. And so they would go to watering holes and they would just kind of slosh around and the feathers absorb the water so then they can fly back to nests and feed the chick's water. You know, they're in a desert. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's nice. That's the only one nice thing.

So get prepared. So, so, um, uh, I read about this phenomenon where there's like a trend in many animals. The moms will sacrifice themselves as food for their babies. Oh, no. Yes. Um, and so it, and I thought it was just one animal. And then I just like went down this research hole

And I found more and more and more So I got inspired by this one animal called the skink And I think we went to the zoo once And we actually met a skink It's like a lizard And so it does something very interesting Where you know it lays eggs And it's a Taiwanese reptile

And there are a lot of snakes there And so the skinks after they lay their eggs If they feel threatened like a snake is going to come eat the eggs The mom will just eat the eggs So it's kind of like, you know, I can't stop you snake from eating my eggs and I feel threatened, then I might as well

eat my own eggs and get the nutritional calorie value to make me stronger and deprive you of the food. Yeesh. Nature is harsh, man. And she would just, she would make live more eggs. Yeah, she would live to make

more energy to make more and also escape the snake. Yeah, sure. Here's some examples of animals that the moms actually sacrifice themselves as food, the black lace weaver spider, it already sounds dangerous and scary. A lot of these animals, they lay a lot of eggs, knowing that the survival rate of them is not very high. Only a small percentage of what they lay is actually going to grow up and become adults and pass on genetic information. So the black lace weaver spider will lay a bunch of eggs. A clutch of spiderlings

would hatch first, like let's say a hundred. And so those hundred will first feed on the other unhatched eggs as food. That happens a lot. It happens in sharks too. And then as they grow, then they start feeding on the mom. There is an illusion of choice. Of course, the spider mom can be like,

whoa, I'm getting out of here. But actually, it seems like the spider does encourage its babies to eat her and give them the nutrients to grow. Like, how do they eat or what part of... So, like, every part. So she would scoot. down and basically present her body to them to the spiderling so that they start gnawing

like just legs or abdomen wherever they can yeah yeah yeah and and basically accept her her death whoa yeah she feeds a hundred like one for wow yeah yeah yeah and then um there's another thing called and i say c cillians say cillians um they're they're amphibians and they look like giant earthworms They look like they don't even have limbs. Okay.

And what they do is they live in caves, like underground caves, and then they look like they haven't seen the sunlight. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're that kind of creature. If you told me you came from a cave, I believe it. And so, so it's a bunch of long reptile babies. And you guys, I'm familiar with the term cloaca because it's in the shark book.

But cloaca is an animal opening that serves as the hole for your poop. It's a multitask animal. For eggs, hole for eggs, hole for pee, whole for everything. Chickens have them. Yeah, yeah, birds have them. And so the mother will secrete something from her cloaca, and the babies will, like, lick up the secretion. And the thing is, these baby, Sicilians have really sharp tea. Oh, geez.

And so we'll tear off, we'll start, like, ripping off her fatty skin and flesh, because it's more nutrient-rich than the secretion. and the mom, luckily, can regrow the skin. Okay. In a couple days, she'll regrow the skin. Man, I mean, like the David Cronenberg's and Guillermo del Toros of the world, you just need to look to nature to get your body horror stuff. I mean, nature's got you covered when it comes to body horror. Well, even in a very, you know, not as gruesome effect, you know, I have a pet pig.

So the pig moms, you know, they have a large litter. When they're pregnant, they're really, really pregnant. And what happens is the tummy will drag. And actually her nipples will drag on the floor as she walks around because there's a lot of piglets that she's pregnant with. And this helps desensitize her nipples. So when the baby piglets are born, they're born with, and a lot of baby mammals have this, they're born with needle teeth. Yeah. Neal teeth and that will latch on to the nipples back.

And so this way. I got like disease. the pig the mom pig pregnant walking around already desensitized and it's like it's a weird like circle of life it's just like getting a callous when you're playing guitar you know it's it's just like that it's exactly like that yeah yeah when when she's actually nursing her piglets it's not as painful as as as it could be okay we need we don't know i mean i can ask a pig but it seems like it's an adaptation yeah yeah yeah Motherhood is about sacrifice. Dana needs to lay down.

I know. I mean, like, I tried, you guys. I tried looking for, like, cute things. And it's like, oh, my God. Karen's like, so many animals eat their young. I know. Anyways, on that note, we have a lost quiz. Yeah.

All right. Well, I'll try to lighten it up a little bit following that. Maybe it's not for every, maybe not every. maybe not everybody had as visceral a reaction to that last segment as I did since I'm currently nursing a baby. You should be like very appreciative. You're like, oh, hello, baby. I mean, it's starting to get teeth. And so it's like, you know, like there's shades of that.

But it's not like needle teeth. They're not needed. It makes me to see. Anyway, okay. All right. So it's a music quiz. The theme is for kids. I won't tell you what the exact theme is.

I'm going to play some music clips. When they end, you guys buzz in, tell me who the artist is. Okay. All right. And they all share a thing in common. And at the end, that is the grand reveal. Okay. The prestige.

The prestige. Yeah. That's right. All right. Get your buzzers ready. Fantastic slide Simply slide I get shipped

on a block in the 65 Come along and ride on Fantastic Slide Slide I'm trying to find a place

So I can live my life And maybe eat some steak With my beans And rice Rice where my kids Can play Uh

Karen I think we Fantastic Voyage Bye Koolio Julio. Cooleo, yeah. So I was like, is it the sample?

Yeah. Because he sampled. Yes. Right, right, right. But that was the one with Culeo, yeah. Rapping. Okay. I go down by the Union Hall when the judge start jumping.

I have a ball. I'm going to rock it up. I'm going to rip it up. I'm going to shake it up. I'm going to ball it up. I'm going to rock it up. And ball tonight. I'm going to take a guess

Big Mama Thornton No, that's not her name That's from Chicago Big Mama Thornton Oh, there's Big Mama Thornton I didn't even read that as well Chris Little Richard

Little Richard I was going to say it's out of the name of the song Yeah Okay She's giving us the name here All right Okay And we should be together back, but we're not.

I'll pay it off, but I'm dreaming. And I'll keep my cool, but I'm feeling. I try to say goodbye, and I choke. Colin. That's Macy Gray. Macy Gray. try. Okay, a couple more. Karen?

Me? Oh, I know the song. You know it. Is it... Do you want to guess? Let me take a guess because I know Karen knows it. Is it Bone Thugs and Harmony? No.

Light Cleft John. Oh, okay. And November? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, so we got... Rip it up Little Richard.

Missy Gray. Coolio. Coolio. All right, we'll do two more. I don't want to give you mine and no I don't want to meet you nowhere no No one of your time and no I don't want no scrub

A scrub is the kind of can't get no love from me hanging on the passenger side of his best friend's right Okay Chris This is TLC, no scrub That's, that's right Okay What's he like, it's not important

Particle Man. Is he a dot or is he a speck? When he's underwater, does he get wet? Or does the water get him instead? Nobody knows. Particle Man. Colin? They might be giants.

I think everyone knew. Particle Man. All right. There's a theme. There's a theme that connects all of these artists. I have a good question. We had Culeo, Cooleo, Little Richard,

Macy Gray, Wyclef Sean, TLC, and they might be Giants. Okay, so they might be Giants. You know, thinking about if it's themed with this episode,

I know they might be Giants had multiple children albums. That's kind of what I was thinking is like maybe each of these artists has recorded a kids album. I could see Wyclef doing that. I could see, Macy Gray doing that or maybe like they did

Kulio doing it. Yeah. Or maybe they did a soundtrack for a kid's movie maybe. I think I think just hmm I like Or it could be the artist themselves. Oh Chris cutting through the noise. Music videos where child actors played their younger selves. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, that's interesting.

I like that. I don't think that's a good one but I don't think that wasn't what I was looking for. That's a good thing. There's probably one where it doesn't get a break. yeah yeah do you guys give up do you what's your guess what you guys i'm still i'm still brainstorming i give up i have my guess um it also could be where they're raised maybe they're they're maybe they were maybe all their parents were musicians as well but did they write children's books maybe maybe they all wrote kids books well t-bos and tlc had sickle cell anemia

so oh okay so yeah okay so yeah okay I'm going to go with just that they've all recorded children's albums. That'll be my personal guess. That'll be my personal guess. No. Okay. What's your guests? They might be giants as a...

That was kind of a key, a keystone. Okay. They all provided voices in a children's show. No. You're close. You're close. They have all done the show theme songs for kids' shows. Oh, okay.

Okay, okay. So Culeo was, who did the theme song for Keenan and Kel, like Keenan, Mitchell, or Keenan Thompson and Kel Mitchell. So Little Richard did the Magic School Bus, the first version. Macy Gray did, as told by Ginger. Wycliffe John did postcards from Buster, like one of those Arthur's spinoffs. Oh, really? Yeah, and then TLC did all that, which was the, like, yeah. Yeah, the Nickelodeon's show from the 90s.

Man, I loved that song so much. They Might Be Giants did Mickey Mouse Clubhouse song, and two of the members did the Malcolm in the Middle song. Yeah, that I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yep, yep, yeah. There was some other. I was like sickle cell anemia.

Let's just back it up from sickle cell anemia. All right, and that is our show. Thank you guys for joining me and thank you guys, listeners, for listening. Hope you learn a lot of stuff about cannibalistic spider children. But, you know, goats as nurses, some real nice kid movies like Seven and Silence of the Lands, which is very calming. And Kids TV show music. You can find our show on iTunes, Stitcher, SoundCloud, Spotify, and our website. good job, brain.com. Also, join our Facebook group. Our Facebook group page, and we also have a

fan group, which is called Loke Trotters. Do it now. Yeah. And we'll see you guys next week. Bye. Bye. Union? How did inflation kill moon bases? And how did a former president decide to run for a second non-consecutive term? These are among the topics we deal with on the My History Can Beat Up Your Politics Podcasts. We tell stories of history that relate to today's news events. Give a listen. My History Can Beat Up Your Politics wherever you get podcasts.