Good Job, Brain! - 209: Have You Tried Rebooting It?

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

Reboots, reinventions, resets, and rebirths! Travel around the world in Karen's former place names quiz. Jenny from the Block? No, it's Lucy from the Sewer! Chris introduces us to the actress who was once was Lucille LeSueur until she got rebranded. Colin's getting the band together for his album reunion quiz, and Dana tries our tech knowledge with a reboot vocab test. ALSO: Mr. Splashy Pants, and Chris' Cameo quiz prize reveal!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello, zesty zillions of zealots about Z-Donks and Zabranos. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and Opi trivia podcast. Today's show is episode 209. And of course, I'm your humble host. Karen, and we are your zoology enthusiasts in zoot suits talking kudzu, shih Tzu's, and Zool over Zoom. I'm Colin. I'm Dana.

And I'm Chris. Now, Karen, remind me again, as a Z-Donk is half zebra, half-donkey, I guess? Of course. Okay, all right, all right. And as Zebrano, which I thought was going to be also some hybrid of a zebra, unfortunately, it is just a type of wood. Zebrough wood. Z-donk is one. That's what I've had of the best.

Oh, Zebrerwood, yeah. Zabrano. Zabrano. So we've been getting a lot of fan questions on across all social. We're on, we're on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. And people have been asking us how they can support our podcast because they want to. We've always had a Patreon link, but now I put it on the website so you can support us via Patreon for a dollar. You get a gif of a bunch of beavers.

that I made. Up to you. You can choose one dollar or more. And we thank all of you guys who have been supporting us so far. Absolutely. Chris, big day today. Oh, no. What happened?

As in a previous episode, as the winner of my cameo quiz, here I am. I've bought with my own money. I've commissioned a cameo for you. This is your prize. And I said that I was going to have a surprise cameo of a surprise celebrity that you'd appreciate. Oh, my gosh. And who did I choose?

And who was available on cameo? And who could I afford? You know, at first I was like, okay, well, there are a lot of wrestlers. I know you used to like watch wrestling. I did use to watch wrestling. If I had the money, I'd do Rick Flair. He was like $500. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, yeah. Chris, you're not worth of Rick Flair money, just to be clear. Wasn't even in time. Yeah. And then of course, I would. went through members of Fleawood Mac, James Taylor, Beach Boys, Adele. So none of them are on cameo. Okay. Okay. I was like, wow, how much are they charging. It came down to somebody who you probably would never, ever meet, who you probably won't see a show of, and somebody who's

unique, someone whose name I know you know. And here we go. Let's play Chris's. a prize cameo Take a listen Hiya Chris Didi Khan here Old French from the movie Greece Well the good job

Brain crew told me that you won the contest You won the big contest among the pub quiz friends And this is your prize Well I feel honored to be your prize Chris I think that from everything your friends said, that you are such a fabulous person, that you are a terrific dad of two, you're a supportive husband, that you're a treasured member of the trivia team, and that you have to just continue, just keep it up being so brilliant and inspiring others to be brainy as well. Well, it sounds like you are really loved and appreciated and a fabulous person.

And when something's cool in the movie, Greece, we say, Awap, Babalumop, a Whop, Bam, Boom. Chris, congratulations. I'm winning the prize. And yes, keep going, baby. Brains are sexy. I send you my love. She looks, she looks the same. She really like that's D.D. Khan.

Her voice. Icon is in her name. Incredible. Frenchy herself. Well, thank you. That's wonderful. I'll send you the video. I own her book. Really? I do. She wrote a, she wrote a grease scrapbook. Oh, cute. Yeah. That was perfect, Karen. So I do love Greece. That was really good idea. Thank you. We're all scared. And I thought it was going to be a big joke. And she was heartwarming. It was heartwarming. She was not willing to do the Rick Flair woo, unfortunately.

Yeah. Beyond the price. Even for the extra payment. Yeah. That woo is $500. That'll cost you. Well, thank you, Karen. That's wonderful.

Well, we recently found out in one of our previous episodes that, Colin, you are not a fan of internet naming contests. Or are you a fan of Blank McBlank-M-Blank-Face Bo-Dy-McBot-Face? Now, before I make too many enemies here on the internet, I should just stress, like, in and of itself, it's a fine joke.

I'm not a fan of the brigading of internet poles and sandbagging of internet polls. How many emails did you get, Colin? Now you have to walk this back. What has been named after me that I'm going to discover, yeah, like some random liver. fluke or some animal like that, right? Well, we had a trivia question about Bodie McBoatface.

We hear a lot about these internet naming contests, and usually the first choice never wins because they're always a joke, you know, or something that's inappropriate. They always go like, oh, we went with the second choice or the third choice, which is a much safer choice. I was like, okay, there must be a contest, a big one where the internet first choice became the actual name of what they're naming. Because so many, like, I think Mountain Dew had a contest to rename Mountain Dew and the number one thing was Soylent Green and other contests like that.

So I did find one, a big one, and it was talked about on a TED Talk. So this was the great story of Mr. Splashy Pants. Mr. Splashy Pants, Greenpeace, as part of its whale expedition. They're trying to raise awareness about whales threatened by, like, the Japanese fisheries. And so they had one whale that they were tracking and they had this internet poll, hey, you know, let's vote to name this whale. Someone put in Mr. Splashy Pants.

However, to Collins a dismay, it was because someone found a way to bypass cookies. And so it started submitting that name multiple times. But then the internet got a wind of it and loved Mr. Splashy Pants. So then other people started voting for Mr. Splashy Pants. and Greenpeace honored the people and went with Mr. Splashy Pants. Integrity. I think it's important. Yeah. And the whale doesn't care. I could tell you. The world doesn't care. But Dana did mention in that same episode where a lot of these is purely PR, purely marketing.

It makes news and people know about it, even if that's not the name that they're going to go with. Greenpeace embraced it. It really became an internet sensation. They're like, yes, sometimes They call him the splashy panted one, you know, for more poetic purposes. He of the splash ed pants. The splash ed. How fancy. All right. Well, without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment.

Pop quiz, hot shot. My desk is just littered with cards. I have to reread them to see if we use them already. All right, so get your barnyard buzzers ready and buzz in with the right answer. A blue edge for geography What chilly island nation straddles two massive tectonic plates subjecting it to occasional fiery volcanic activity

That was Dana Is it Greenland? It is not Oh Colin Is that Iceland It is Iceland Trivial Pursuit commentary here

The card says Shoulda been called Fireland What is it in your lane? Leave the jokes to the professional trivia podcasters. Pink Wedge for entertainment. New Zealander Lucy Lawless rose to stardom for her role as sword-wielding royalty in which TV series. Everybody. Zena, the warrior princess.

Zena, colon, warrior princess. Yellow Wedge for history. How often is the U.S. Census Count. Conducted. Colin. I believe by law every 10 years. Correct. Every 10 years.

A purple wedge for what is this? Oh, arts and literature. What literary mashup features Jane Austen's Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy fighting against a growing tide of reanimated dead. Chris. Pride and prejudice and zombies. And zombies, correct. Green Wedge for science and nature, which vegetable is not in the Brassica family, and that's spelled B-R-A-S-S-I-C-A, not in the Brassica family. Okay.

Kale, there are four choices. Kale, artichoke, mustard, or Brussels sprouts. Oh, wow, Chris, confidently. Artichoke. Correct. Their others are lettuce, they're leafy, leafy, green. Mustard greens, brussels sprouts are like little lettuces, you know. Last question, here we go.

Orange Wedge for Sports and Leisure. Which form of entertainment was deemed free speech after the 2011 Supreme Court case, Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association. Oh, Chris. Chris, please. I hate this question. It's video games. Correct. But, of course, video games were always free speech.

It's not as if the Supreme Court came in and they weren't free speech before and they are free speech now. But yes, the Supreme Court affirmed the obvious conclusion that video games are encompassed in freedom of speech yet. All right, good job, everybody. So today our special topic, actually a lot of people suggested this in our Facebook fan group, in our lobetrotters group. but I want to read this and this is from fan Laura Beard Hayden she said how about reboots people who have rebooted the careers by reinventing themselves and she lists ventriloquist and voice artist Paul Winchell invented the first artificial heart actor Ken Jiang was and is a medical doctor Brian May of Queen is a degreed astrophysicist and then she also says authors who switch names or genres like a normal Laura Roberts, aka J.D. Robb, Stephen King as Richard Bachman, items, inventions that were repurposed like Coca-Cola, which was originally for as medicine.

Plato, which we talked about before was a wallpaper cleaner or cities that change their names like Bombay and Mumbai. So Laura, this is a great suggestion. It seems like there's enough to do multiple shows based on your suggestion. But today we're going to take a crack at it. We're looking at reboots, renames, rebirths. So this week we're pressing the reset button.

Reboots. Okay, I have a quiz for you guys. I will start us off here. I went kind of for the theme of rebirth. And I took sort of a musical angle here. I have a quiz for you called We're Getting the Band Back Together. Oh, good, good. Perfect. And here I had a lot of fun with this one.

The angle on this quiz is, you know, a lot of bands have been around for a long time. Sometimes they break up. Sometimes they have personality conflicts. Sometimes I have contractual disputes. Sometimes they, albums languish in development hell for years and years. So my quiz is about bands that have many, many, many, many years between studio album releases. In fact, these are among the longest periods between albums released. Oh, I see.

I see. So they're like dormant for a long time. And dormant back to life. Yep. Come back. We're like, we're not musicians anymore. Now we're musicians again. That's right.

That's right. Like sick monkeys where they're dormant and then you just add water. Now they're creatures. They flourish. Yeah. We're only so easy. So let's do this as a buzzer. Get your buzzers ready.

I'm going to start you. I'm going to start you off with what I hope is an easy one for you. All right. In 2008, 15 years to the day after their last studio album, these rockers released their long-awaited, off-delayed album, Chinese Demiade album. Chinese democracy. What band is this? Karen, excitedly.

Guns and roses. This is indeed guns and roses. Yeah, 1993 to 2008. Now, here's the other note I should add for this quiz is as we go through this quiz, the periods of time are going to get longer and longer and longer. So 15 years is now the floor that we have established. It's the shortest so far.

That's right. I'm going to give you the names of all of these later released albums. That's how obscure some of them might be to you, even though you might have these artists in your iTunes library or your Spotify playlist. A punch bowl. That's right. All right. Moving right along.

Number two, in 2015, this rapper and producer famed for his collaborations and guest artists broke a 15-year hiatus to release the album Compton. What artist is this? Interesting. Chris has a guest. Dr. Dre? Correct. Yes.

It makes sense. Dr. Dre. Yes. It was inspired by the NWA biographical film Straight Out of Compton. Oh, that means. Yeah. So he sort of started noodling around

and that turned into his album. So what was his previous album? the chronic. The previous album was the confusingly named 2001, which came out in 1999. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes. No, he's only had like three

solo albums, I mean, over his career. Yeah, the chronic. Yeah. He's a producer. Yeah. Exactly. All right. Moving right along. In 2013, this iconic British heavy metal band reunited more or less, including their legendary lead singer to release their 19th and final studio album

after a nearly 18-year break from the studio. The album was titled 13. Heavy metal. Dana. Is it Black Sabbath? It is Black Sabbath. What? Excellent.

Yes, Dana. That's right. British heavy metal. Yeah. Legendary lead singer, of course, Ozzy Oswald. With Ozzy. With Ozzy, with Geiser Butler, with Tommy Iommi, with, like, they would have had their founding members. That's the best name.

Those are their founding members. They would have had their original drummer too. But again, the contractual obligations disputes popped up. Now, again, I should note, now, one of the things with a quiz like this is they're going to be huge fans of some of these bands. I should note, again, this quiz is about studio albums, okay? Now you, some of these bands may have released live albums or solo. Yes, that's right. Solo records, unofficial, you know, re-releases, things like that.

So these are studio albums only. Okay. Number four, this hip-hop band had been semi-officially broken up for nearly 18 years when a one-off appearance on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in 2015, re-energized the three founding members, prompting them to release we got it from here thank you for your service the following year

what band is this Karen go ahead is it tribe called Quest it is a tribe called Quest I was just like what three member yeah who goes up band yeah and sad to say

you know founding member Fife Dog died you know basically right when the album came out okay get maybe a little more difficult here as move on number five already hard I think you guys have answered everyone, but you're working for it. You're working for it. The 2010 album, Something for Everybody, released after a 20-year gap following the band's

previous studio disc, had cover art depicting a woman eating a miniature version of one of the band's signature energy domes. What band is this? What is it? Dana. Is this Devo? It is Devo. Yeah.

Yeah. Energy domes. Very good. They're hats. They're hats. Yes. They're flower pots. They're energy hats.

Yes. They're in the band lore. They are canonically called the energy domes. Yes. Oh, man. That's a good one. Yep. Yep.

In 2013, after 27 years without a studio album, this old. old school hardcore punk band with a colorful name, released an album called What The? Which was widely panned for everything from the production value to the musicianship, to the title, to the cover art. They hated it. People hated this album. What band is this?

Colorful. British? They are American. Okay. It hasn't been that long It wasn't going to be like Oh Green Day But then it's been

Chris has a guess Green Day No not Green Day The band's previous album Would have been 1985 Oh okay This is one of the most popular tattoos

Among Rock and Punk fans You will ever see I am looking for I'll tell you what At one point Their lead singer was Henry Rollins Oh Oh what is it

Time's running out I am looking for Black Flag Blackflash. Oh, I feel embarrassed that I didn't know this. I should have known this. I think you should have known it too. Yeah. Out Berkeley, yeah. I know. All right. Last one. Last one here. In 2018, more than 37 years after their last studio album, this band released the rambling, eclectic, two-disc set named Medicare fraud dog. And that's dog with two G's, if that gives you any kind of hint at all.

Their previous album from 1980 was called Trombipulation. Wait, what kind of music? Did you say what kind of music it was? I did not say what kind of music. There might be a reason. It is Parliament. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I told you guys I danced on stage with George Clinton. Yeah. You know, I can't not think of that when I hear Parliament or George Clinton. Okay, well, good job, guys. Yeah, you acquitted yourself as well there. No frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders.

Shop now at nofrills.ca. So on the theme of rebooting yourself, it's very common, it's very common in Hollywood for people when they start doing movies to be credited in those movies under a name that is not their legal. name. Sometimes this is just for privacy reasons. Sometimes it's because of guild, like screen actors guild stuff that say that, you know, your name does have to be unique. For example, like Michael J. Fox, his middle initial is not J. The J. does not stand for anything. When he started working, there was already an actor working whose name was Michael Fox. So he just had to go by, in that case, just a slightly different name. Then, of course, you have the case of actors such as Marion Morrison, who, you know, at first went by his high school nickname of Duke and was credited as Duke Morrison, but then changed his screen name entirely to the completely unrelated name of John Wayne.

And this was, this was purely for marketing purposes. The, you know, the movie studios would change actors' names as a matter of course just to something that they felt would sell more movie tickets and was appropriate for, you know, in this case, the idea of a hero of the American. American West, exactly. Yep. And additionally, when I say that he picked the name John Wayne, and I mean the movie studio executives did it without even involving him in the discussion. No. It will come to you and be like, this is your new name now. I mean, this is literally it's in your contract. It was a different era then for sure. Yep. Yeah. Now, recently in the news, you may have seen it go the other way, which is certainly a rare occurrence. You may remember that the actors formerly credited as Tandy Newton in Westworld solo, so like that. Came out and said, hey, actually, Tandy is a misspelling of my actual, which actually her middle name, her first name is Melanie, but she wanted to go as, her middle name, which is Tandyway, with a W before the E. And they accidentally misspelled it in her first movie credit. And she just kind of went with it, which she now regrets and is changing it back now and future credits to Tandhiway. And again, she was just trying to go by her middle name.

Today, somebody might go by their middle name. They might change their last name to something that's meaningful to them. or a name that's in their family or a nickname or whatever. But again, in the past, it was an actor would get signed on a contract to a major movie studio because that was kind of how it worked, right? You just got signed on a contract to a studio and just did films for them. And they would just change your name. They were selling a product.

You were that product, and they were going to give that product a name, like you would name anything on the shelf in a store. So Archibald Leach, Archibald Leach became Carrie Grant. Joseph Ewell became Mickey Rooney. and so on and so forth. And there was one name change that, as I was reading about, it was fascinating to me in terms of how they actually did it. And that was the case of a young, up-and-coming actress named Lucille Lessewer. Lassure.

Lessewer. Yes, let's talk about Miss Lassure. Tough name against, yeah. So she was born, Miss Lassure was born in Texas in 190-something. She has, throughout her life, she gave many different birth years at different times. and nobody's actually been able to pin down when she was born or how old she is. But she began as a dancer on stage in the early 1920s. Just think the quintessential flapper with the bobbed hair and the sort of scandalous, you know, above the knee dresses and yeah, funny hats.

And, you know, and she was discovered pretty quickly in the early 20s. And MGM, Metro Goldwyn-Meyer ended up signing her to a contract. And she started doing movies, silent movies under the name Lucille Wasuer, not leading roles, but just like she was appearing in these movies. So anyway, MGM is like, all right, Lucille, the sewer, you could be a really big star, but we've got to change your name. First and foremost, it sounds a lot like Lucille the sewer. I mean, it's like Lucy from the sewer.

Like, we cannot work with this. Jenny from the block. She's like, have you ever been on an American playground, you yes? Yeah. So they decided to change her name before she got a lead role. Now, here's the fun and exciting part. When readers of the movie magazine Movie Weekly opened up their March 27th, 1925 issues to page five, they saw a big splashy headline. And that headline was, name her and win $1,000.

Oh, my God. That's right, folks. Speaking of naming contest, they held a naming contest. And they named her Lucy Lady Pansy. Yes, they named her actressemic actress face. The end. So I'll read, I will now read directly from this article for a little bit. I'm quite thrilled over this contest, which is to find me a new name,

smiled pretty Lucille, Lissuer, across the luncheon table out at the Metro Goldwyn-Meyer studios. People have never been able to pronounce my name or spell it. She continued, et cetera, et cetera. I personally will favor one which is easy to pronounce and spell and also easy to remember. Of course, it must be a pretty name as well. article says, Miss Lassour is but one of the judges, and of course, the majority will rule, but her preference will be seriously considered for after all. We'll take it under advisement.

Yeah, exactly. So this, the article goes on for pages talking about Lucille Lassour. And what's interesting about this piece is that it illustrates that actors taking on new names was not some kind of a secret. They weren't trying to hide anything. Like here it wasn't all the magazines for all the fans to see. here she is here's her name we're picking a new one i'm sure uh that you'll be interested to hear about the specific rules for this contest which is the winner the number one winner got five hundred

dollars and that would be like about seven thousand dollars that's pretty dang good yeah it's good ten runners up would get fifty dollars each here are the rules it must be short or of only moderate length it must be suitable to the individual who will use it during her entire picture career it must be euphonious pleasing and yet have strength it must be a name easy to remember and quick to impress. It must not infringe upon nor imitate the name of any other Artiste. Okay. So the readers voted that on September 5th, 1925, the Los Angeles Times ran this story

in that classic way in which the story would have a big headline and then like other little headlines. Yeah. Something in a name at that. Cognomen It's the big one. Cognomen of actress discarded.

The next one. Lucille Lussure will now be known to film fans as Joan Crawford. Whoa. So yes, Joan Crawford, who in fact really was about

to explode into movie stardom, was that famous name was chosen in a magazine contest. Now, the ending of this contest was not without some controversy. Apparently, the actual winning name was going to be Joan Arden, A-R-D-E-N. But then there's conflicting stories about why they had to toss that. Possible that there was already somebody working at M-G-M-G-M- with that name who complained. Also possible, the name was fine, but multiple people

submitted that name. And by law, like Postal Service law, they would each have to get $500, which again was like $7,000. It was too expensive. And also, even though apparently they talked up this big judging panel that was going to include Lucille Lassour and all these famous movie moguls and stuff like that, apparently nobody, none of them actually bothered to do it. So the young female editor of Movie Weekly, Adele Whiteley Fletcher, said later that they just told her to just pick the name herself and they were like, oh, well, whatever you pick is going to be fine.

So she said later, like, I named Joan Crawford, like I picked that name. And they had to just find one that only one person had mailed it in a pair. And again, even though they said that Lucille was going to be involved in all of this, in fact, she hated the name. They stuck her with it. She thought it sounded like, she was like, it sounds like crawfish. Yeah, yeah. What's fine?

Contest was a contest. A magazine editor picked out her brand new name. Seems to have done fine. So yeah, Joan Crawford, her name was choked. I know her best as the subject of, of, or the maker of mummy heiress. A little aside here, why did I decide to dig into the story of Lucille, in particular? It is actually because I was reading about the phenomenon known on the game show Jeopardy,

known as Pulling a Cliff Clavin. And I don't know if you've heard of this. I love. So on an episode, Cheers. In 1990, yes, the know-it-all character, Cliff Clavin, played by John Bratsonberger, goes on Jeopardy. and the plot is he has an insurmountable lead going into final jeopardy that he would not be able to lose unless he wagered all his money got the question wrong

he gets the final answer is archibald leach bernard schwartz and lucille lussure to which he responds who are three people who've never been in my kitchen wagers all his money and loses and this move having a lot going into Final Jeopardy, wagering too much losing, now it was pulling a Cliff Clavin. So I had definitely heard Lucille Lussure was the original name

and the job conference station name, but I definitely did not know it was a contest or picked, you know, like by motivated by money, that's so depersonalizing. And some rando was just going to pick it. Yeah. So, again, fortunately.

Turned out they didn't care. Again, had we had the internet, they could have stuffed the ballot box since she would have been Mrs. Acty Pants. Yeah. Make actress face. And then her daughter, Christina, actress-face, would have written a saving novel.

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This week we're talking about reboots. Okay, this is my turn. When I was thinking about what to do for this, I looked up, what is reboot? I saw the etymology of rebooting. You may already know, but reboot comes from the world of computers. It's the first thing people tell you to do

when your computer is actually really weird. You have to turn it off and turn it on again. So that's rebooting it. And then I was like, okay, well, what's the boot? Is it a piece of the computer? Is it a reference to, like, kicking the computer or something? That's what I thought. Is it like a shoe metaphor?

Yeah. You have to kick the computer twice. Grandpa Simpson over here. Yeah. The reboot in terms of computers is based on a shoe metaphor. It comes from bootstrapping. Like at the top of the boot, there's that little loop. and you use that to pull the boot further onto your foot.

And when you reboot your computer, you turn it all off. When you turn it back on, a very basic program comes in, and then it pulls the other programs online. It restarts everything. That's why it kind of restarts your whole system. And it is related to that saying about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Like the magical one right now where you pull yourself up, you're somehow able to pull your whole body up with you.

Exactly. No, I mean, the old version was like it's an important. possible task and somehow it got flipped. It was sarcastic. It was a sarcastic expression. Like, go ahead. Just pull yourself up at your bootstrap. It wasn't meant to be advised.

Yeah. So that's your computer. Your computer's bootstrapping itself back into loading. And I liked how poetic it was. And then I realized a lot of computer terms are very poetic or idiomatic. They're kind of loosely related to something else. And now that new meaning almost even for computers almost even becomes like the main thing you think about when you hear that word.

And that's called semantic drift, by the way. So this quiz is about computer terms that reference older concepts that are from before computer times. And I'm going to tell you the older reference and then you tell me what the computer piece is. Okay. Okay. So for example, the first one, super easy. This computer equipment reference is to a small creature with a long tail that fits in

the palm of your hand. A mouse. Amos, yeah. All right. You guys buzz in, and I will get started right now. So this concept references a giant or dwarf from Scandinavian folklore that inhabits caves or hills. I think I heard a dog first. Karen? A troll.

All right. How about this? This communication style references a chirping little note. Oh. Colin. What is a tweet? a tweet yes a little a name for a message on twitter how about this one this type of communication references a monte python skit in which the word is excessively chanted and drowns out all other

talking chris spam spam spam where they are just spam mail is spam because yeah yeah i'm not a monty python i always thought it was meat related it is i'll tell you what the skit is i watched it to like verify. And so this couple comes into a diner and basically every dish on the menu has spam and there are a bunch of Vikings there. And then they just start chanting spam and the couple's like talking on this Usenet. There were people just posting all sorts of

ads everywhere and they were like spam. Spam. Yeah, they're spamming us. Yeah, like specifically because like Monty Python was the ultimate like nerd cultural like touchstone for all the computer nerds to reference that yeah. Next one. The name for this technology is a reference to a Scandinavian king who helped facilitate communication between various Danish tribes.

I think Colin. That is Bluetooth. Yes, Bluetooth. The logo is the run. Is his run. Yeah, his initials. Like, because that technology was developed in Scandinavia, and the guy who made it was reading a book about Vikings, and it was about uniting the tribes or uniting people. Oh, that's cute.

And his name was Harold Bluetooth, is that right? Oh, it's a Mr. Bluetooth. Yeah, like a dead tooth or something. Please, my father was Mr. Bluetooth. You couldn't call the Harold. Yeah. All right. This program feature is a reference to a holiday game where children hunt for decorated food stuffs.

Oh. Karen. Egg hunt. No. Chris. Easter egg. Easter egg. Yeah, went in video games.

This happens a lot where there's something hidden a special little treat or it's a little thing people put in for hackers to find in a program. They're Easter eggs. This type of malware is a reference to a legendarily stealthy Greek battle technique. Colin. That is a Trojan horse. Trojan horse malware where basically they implant malicious code on your device and it gives them access to it. All right, how about this? This network security system is a reference to a building technique that helps prevent the spread of fire.

Oh, oh. A firewall. A firewall, yes. A thick wall that's fireproof between units, so that way fire won't spread somewhere else. And so in computing, putting up a barrier between computers, so if something goes wrong with one, it won't hurt the other computer. This operating system feature is a reference to a small. writing surface with a spring fastener at the top to hold papers in place. Oh my God. I never, I mean, it's clipboard, right? Yeah. But I never thought about it. Yeah, it's just a little

short-term space on your computer for data. Um, and lastly, this common interface element references a marker on a slide rule. Slide rule. Common. Karen, yeah. Is it cursor? Yes. Yeah, because it's a little triangle. A little planer. I didn't know that's what it was called on a slide rule, a cursor. Oh, that's really good. Who uses slide rules anymore? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I remember even, even as a very young kid, my parents talking about how old slide rules were. Yeah, yeah, how it was old to them already, yeah. Speaking of computers, you guys remember Microsoft Office, you had a little mascot that says, how can I help you? right the little paper clip Yeah In my mind Its name was Clippy

That's what I thought it was too It's clip it What Is it it's been clippets Yeah we just call it Colloquially But it was always Clip It

I feel like I didn't talk to anybody About this paper clip And now I'm like No in all these conversations we used to have About the paperclip guy He finally retired

I think in the 2000s Good for him Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My turn. Last quiz.

So our fan topic suggestor, Laura, she mentioned at the end, cities that change their names. At pub quiz, we get a lot of older names of cities, older names of countries or places or monuments. And I found out that this whole branch of naming places, it's called toponomy. Oh. Topony. No, toponomy. Place name. Yes, topography, topo, and then nimi, naming.

It's so fascinating. So I here have a quiz, mostly about places and cities or countries that have changed their names. They have former names. And, you know, to be honest and not to be a downer, but let's face it, a lot of these name changes are for political reasons, for colonizing, for maybe empires that have risen. and then, you know, kind of disintegrated, or sometimes for weird, fun reasons. So here is my quiz of former names and current names. Let's buzz in.

Here we go. Question one, this was the former name of an ancient central Asian region north of the Hindu Kush Mountain Range. It's in current day, Afghanistan. Nowadays, we associate this area more with a species. of camels. There are only two. Yeah.

Yeah. Collin. Bactria. Correct. Bactria. Bactrian camels. They're the... Two humped.

Two humped. Dana's a little mnemonic. Sideways B has two humps. And the sideways D has one humd, dromidary backtrian. So backtrient. was a ancient region. Today in Afghanistan, you said?

In other places, but mostly, yeah, yeah. Okay, second question. The word serendipity actually came from a Persian fairy tale called the Three Princes of Serendip where the characters in the story make discoveries by accent, hence

serendipity, serendip. So Serendip, along with Ceylon, are former names of what island nation? Chris. Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka. Yes, Sri Lanka. One of its former names was serendip, where the word serendipity came down.

That's a good one to know. Yeah. Okay. The name of what tasty Asian dish still contains the former name of a Chinese capital. Ah. Chris. Peking duck. Peking duck.

That's good. That's good. is is I some people might not know Peking is a former pronunciation name of Beijing Beijing it's same same place same reference Nanking Nanjing also similar this is because there was the Pingying pronunciation system for Mandarin where where Chinese names sound a little bit more accurate to their actual Mandarin so Peking duck is also the same as Beijing duck but we still call it Peking duck it gets so fixed as part of that's the dish that's the dish

Yeah I didn't know that they were the same place The characters are the same It's just Yeah It's just the English pronunciation Yeah

It's changed Okay Well you guys know I love dogs And I am the The de facto dog breed person on our Pub trivia team

No doubt So here I have a dog breed question Hope you guys can get it This beautiful and popular freed of hunting dog from Africa is named after the former name of Zimbabwe and for its whirly crown fur

along its spine Okay, so we got a lot of angles in on this one. Former name of Zimbabwe And the dog has like this crown of fur down along. Oh, oh, oh, that was Dana. I'm going to be wrong. Is it Zanzibar or something? No.

Is it Rhodesian something? Oh, which was... Ridgeback. Yes. Oh, okay. Team Ever. Rhodesian Ridgeback

named after Rhodesia. And they're beautiful. They're really popular. Rhodesian Ridgeback. Browsing through Pinterest, you might see a lot of Boho Sheik style. Boho, short for Bohemian, free-spirited, artsy. Uh, where is Bohe's?

Bohemia exactly. Yeah. Colin. I think it is mostly in present day Czechoslovakia. Present day Czechoslovakia? Oh, sorry. Sorry. I'm dating myself. I'm dating myself. Today, it would be, man, in Slovakia. Czech Republic. Well, you know, with these regions, they span outside of the current country lines.

But predominantly, right? Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. It's not about Czech Republic or that area. It's Bohemia is a whole movement, right? About like artsy, very like anti-establishment. Actually, this is, and I'm going to read this from Wikipedia because it's written a little bit more clarification. So the whole movement of bohemianism actually emerged in France

in the early 19th century, you know, Toulouse, you know, Moulin Rouge. And this is when artists and creators began to, concentrate in the lower rent, lower class Romani neighborhoods. Bohemia was a French term for like the Romani people who were mistakenly thought to have come from Czechoslovakia or Bohemia. It's like three levels. It's three levels apart. It's like a game of telephone.

Like when we talk about Boho Sheik and Bohemia, we're really talking about the movement. And the movement is named after a kind of a mistake from. from actual bohemia, the land. That's interesting. And today they have Bohemia beer, which I believe comes from the Czech Republic. Actual bohemia. Yeah, there we go.

There we go. Can you guys provide me? I have two monuments here that were renamed Mount McKinley and Ayers Rock. The, uh, call it. I think Mount McKinley was renamed Denali. Correct. And I believe Ayrs Rock was officially renamed Uluru, I think. For both of these monuments, now back to its name that people were championing for.

Mount McKinley to Denali, which is in Alaska. Ayer's Rock is now Uluru. This is the big, the massive rock monument in Central Australia out in the Outback, where I ran a marathon. I ran around the rock. It's huge. They just stopped people from going up it, right? Yes.

They took off the ropes and like the things that help you to climb it. So in China, the Zhang Jia Ji, Zhang Jiangjiangjia. I can't have some of it's hard to pronounce the English pronunciation of it. Zhang Jaya Jian. National Forest is a national park in China. And you might not heard of this, but you've seen it. They're these big rock columns. They're beautiful, very foresty.

They're spindly, filled with mountains shape like columns, or sometimes they're referred to as sky pillars. One of the pillars originally named the Southern Sky Column was officially renamed to honor what James Cameron movie. Oh, that's got it. Dana. Is it Avatar? It is Avatar. It was renamed to get this.

Avatar Hallelujah Mountain Oh my Oh my gosh Wait who picked this name Is this a fan name? I don't think

Can't even Land of Pandora in Avatar Inspired by this National Park Which it's floating rocks The floating kind of Spindly Mountains and forest

I've definitely seen pictures of this online Yeah yeah And a lot of Chinese brush paintings But yeah Rename to Avatar Hallelujah It even had

The Chinese name Also basically says Avatar hallelujah mountain next question graphic designers rejoice america has lady liberty and lady columbia switzerland has this lady as their national what they call national personification uh also where a famous font face name comes from oh Colin uh it has to be lady helvetica It's Lady Helvetia But Helvetia

Okay, okay Yeah, yeah Oh, he said the font comes from Okay, yeah Yeah, the font Helvetica is named after The National Personification Which I think actually would make a really great quiz in the future National personifications

Yeah, there's a whole list It's really cool I mean, a lot of them are like, Mother this country You know like Mother Russia And you're like, okay, yeah, why? I think it's Russia Yeah, exactly

Helvetia, Helvetica comes from Helveti, which is the Gaul people living in the Swiss mountain range. They're graphic designers. They like clean fonts, perfect for subway stations. That makes sense because I remember now their Switzerland's domain name is dot C.H, which I think stands for Latin for confederatio Helvetia. Yes, it is correct. I'm sure I mangled that, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

All right, last question here. This historical region literally means beyond the woods, but you might not want to bring garlic into this part of current Romania. Oh, of course, of course. Chris. Transylvania. Transylvania. Yeah.

Transcross. Sylvania woods. That is an actual region, historical region, and it's an current day, Romania. All right. Good job, everybody. There's so many. There are so many former names.

Obviously, history is very long, and there has been many takeovers or creations of new countries or separations of countries into multiple different countries. But yeah, here's some of the interesting ones that you might not know. And that's our show. I do have an announcement. Sorry. So, of course, I want everybody to know something really exciting, all of our listeners for Season 2.

We're doing something really special. We are renaming Colin. So, send in your new names for Colin. At the end of the season, we're going to pick the winner, and that'll just, that'll be his new name. Something that's easy to pronounce. Something that's bold. Yep. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Something that speaks to his, like, there's areas of strength and trivia. something maybe about sports or music. Yeah. Yeah. And I will have a vote among, you know, the other majority rule. We'll just get somebody random to pick.

Maybe Tyler. Can't wait. So just send him in. All right. And that's our show. Thank you guys for joining me. Thank you guys listeners for listening in. Hope you learned stuff about Joan Crawford, about computers, about bands getting back together.

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