Good Job, Brain! - 258: The Hole Truth

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Holey moley! We're all about trivia about holes this week, starting with Colin's [blank] hole word quiz! Happy learned how to putt, uh oh! Karen dodges windmill blades and laughing clowns to find the ...origin of mini-golf. Chris pushed a bunch of musicians down a hole, and their cries for help melded into a supercut music round. In trivia, we often get asked what are the highest points and structures in the world, but what about the lowest? Colin finds some strange stuff about the Kola Superdeep Borehole, the deepest hole in the world. Heigh-ho, there's a hole in our boat! So we gotta dominate the H2O word challenge to get all this water out. For advertising inquiries, please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, Star-Spangled Starlets at Starboard, starving for starfruit starbursts. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 258 and a full. course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your probing pros, prone to protrusions, prognosticating programs pro bono. I'm Colin. And I'm Chris.
Starting point is 00:00:43 All right, without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, pop quiz, hot shot. Oh, here we go. Something different. Here I have a random trivial pursuit card, and you guys have your barnyard buzzers, buzzing with the answers. This is Trivial Pursuit Music Singles. Music? Okay. So like they're unmarried?
Starting point is 00:01:09 Here we go. Blue Edge. What is the full name of KC of Casey and the Sunshine Band? Oh, great. Great question. Wonderful question. I don't know. Here's a hint. Oh, okay. It's not, the initials aren't like
Starting point is 00:01:28 K and C. Oh. This person's name. All right. So you either know it or you don't. Yeah. Oh. I do not know. Casey Jones or something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Oh, I see. Like Casey. Casey. Yeah, yeah. A full name is Harry Wayne Casey. Ah, okay. Oh, all right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:47 All right. So yeah. So you were on the right track there, Chris. Very very serial killer-ish. And I can see why he changed it. Yes. Yes. Oh, it's a triple firsty, right?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Karen. It is a triple firsty. Harry, Casey. Got a little sound effect that plays when we have a triple firsty. Pink Wedge.
Starting point is 00:02:08 What John Lennon's song did Radio Mogul Clear Channel suggest that its station avoid playing after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the U.S.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Chris. Imagine. It was imagine. Imagine. 100%. 100%. I remember this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yellow Wedge. What pop veteran and won a Grammy for a record of the year in 1994, Wind Beneath My Wings. Chris. Bad Midler.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Bet Midler. Bonus question that's not on this card, but in my brain, what film did that song? Beaches. Yes. Beach. Beaches. That film was a phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I mean, I know I'm a little bit older than you guys, but I remember, like, you could not escape that movie Beaches. Oh, like at one point there, yeah. Have you actually watched it, though? I probably saw it, like, on an airplane or something like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big tearjurker, great song, great movie. Here we go, Purple Wedge.
Starting point is 00:03:16 What type of emotionally charged American-born music does rock and roll hail from? Chris. Rhythm and blues had a baby. And that baby was rock and roll. It is the blues. The blues. Oh, okay. Oh, I'm going to give it to myself.
Starting point is 00:03:36 You like to do that. I do. Well, I'm right. It did grow out of rhythm and blues, but okay. Greenwich. Who is the queen of soul? Colin. That is.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Aretha Franklin. Aretha Franklin. Last question on this card. What Prince song was a 1990 hit for Sheney O'Connor? power uh Colin that is nothing compares to you yes thank you you you said it in such a way that you can hear as a number and a letter you can hear the number in the letter nothing compares to you that was kind of easy let's do another card here I have random uh which one I this one genus four trivial pursuit blue wedge blue wedge blue edge red geography
Starting point is 00:04:28 Where in Massachusetts is the only island, county, and town in the U.S. that share the same name? Chris. Oh, Martha's Vineyard. I was going to say, you know, I was going to say Cape Cod, but I'm like, no, wait, that's a Cape. That's not an island. None of those. Island, county, and a town. Has to be an island.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Martha Vineyard is pretty good, yes, Chris. I don't know if I can top that. It is. I only know it from a beverage called Nantucket Nectars of the Nantucket. Nantucket. All right, okay. Remember those drinks? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:09 With the scenic, like, fishing town on the, on the label. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pink Wedge, Arts and Entertainment. Who once asked Cindy Bear, what's on your mind as if it isn't obvious? Oh, oh my gosh. Colin. Yogi Bear. It is Yogi Bear.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Okay, all right. I couldn't remember if that was the other than his girlfriend or not. Yellow Wedge. What Harry Callahan line did Ronald Reagan invoke to tax increases? Oh, my. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Colin. Are they just looking for Make My Day? Go ahead. Go ahead. Make my day. All right. Very Callahan from a dirty Harry. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Brown Wedge, signs in nature. What characteristic of minerals is described? by the Moes scale. M-O-H-R-H-H. Hey. Hey, Colin. That would be the hardness of them. Refreshing my memory for the flat episode.
Starting point is 00:06:11 The hardness of minerals. Yep, yep, yep. Green Wedge, who won the Heisman Trophy in 1985 and baseball's All-Star Game MVP Award in 1989? Oh, gosh. Colin? Is that Bo Jackson? It is.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I would never have said anything else. Pretty small. A small group of people who could do both of those. Who is the only person who is both good at football and baseball? Last question, orange wedge wildcard. What six foot four creature did a Carolina preacher accuse of being a, quote, new age demon and, quote, the purple Messiah? Oh. Oh, oh, oh, Chris.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Barney the dinosaur. Barney the dinosaur. I love that, uh, the country song writing nature of that question, though. It's like, what Carolina preacher thought a six-foot preacher was the demon? All right. Good job, brains. Today's episode, Colin, usually you're the theme picker, but I threw, I threw this nomination in. You did emphatically.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yes. And I was like, guys, what if we did an episode about holes? I think maybe because I've been lately into blackhead extraction videos or like pimple popping. Oh, sure. Oh, holes. Yeah. Holes on your body. Holes in the earth.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Holes, you know, in food. And so, yes, that is today's episode all about holes. So here's to the whole truth. All right, I will start us off here. I have a good old-fashioned, good job, brain-style word-related quiz for you. It is called Blank Hole. And this is going to be lightning round style. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm going to give you guys a clue to a target word. maybe short phrase and all of the answers to this quiz end with the word whole okay so we're going to do lightning round style uh i'm going to read the clue you buzz in if you think you know the word and we're just going to keep on moving so for example for example if i were to say a lawn game often played while holding a beer you would say cornhole you got it okay here we go get your buzzers Just a disclaimer, everybody. We're a family-friendly show. I promise.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So don't turn the show off. This is a clean, family-friendly, no bleeps or censorship needed for this show. Cornhole was as racy as we were going to get. All right. Get the buzzers ready. Here we go. A common city road hazard. Chris, what do you got for me?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Pot hole. Pot hole. Got it. A pit dug for protection from enemy fire. Foxhole. My rooster. It's running out of battery. Hekin is dying over there.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Oh, no. All right. All right. Well. Foxhole. Foxhole. How a cetacean breathes. Karen.
Starting point is 00:09:50 A blowhole. Blow hole. Yes. Cetation, of course. the whales and their family. That's right, blow a hole. Their loved ones. Their loved ones.
Starting point is 00:10:01 A rudimentary type of camera. Oh. Karen again. Pinhole. Pinhole. You got it. A pinhole camera. Have you guys ever made a pinhole camera?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yes. It's actually, it's one of those things I just, I can't believe that it works and it works. It's great. Yeah. And the photographs are terrible. Yeah, but in a charming way. They're charmingly terrible. if not terribly charming.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Ah, an ambiguity or omission in a legal document. Ah, Karen, by a hair again. Is this loophole? It is loophole. I'm looking for loophole. That's right. A theoretical structure connecting distant points in space time. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Chris. Wormhole. That is wormhole. Yeah, I'm going to lose it with this buzzer here. A window on a cruise ship. Both of you together. Port hole. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Port hole. To assign someone to an overly. restrictive category. Oh. Oh, Chris. It always seems like I didn't buzz in fast enough because it's so long. And here at the end. A pigeonhole.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yes, pigeonhole. Two pigeonhole someone. The bar at a golf course. Chris. You call it the 19th hole. You got it, the 19th hole, yes. There are, in fact, many courses and clubs across the country where the bar is literally named the 19th hole.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Oh, right, yeah, yeah. The space between a goaltender's legs. Oh, going back here. What is it, Karen? Five hole. That's right, the five hole. I'll never forget that. To erase something from public awareness.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh. Chris Memory hole Memory hole Yes memory hole You got it All right And last one
Starting point is 00:12:31 A dish Made of sausages cooked in batter Together Everyone Toad in the hole Toad in the hole Our old pup trivia place
Starting point is 00:12:46 I remember once they had that On the menu Like a seasonal Oh really? Oh my God We got to get this Toad in the hole Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:52 No toads nor holes. Yeah, it's really like, you know, like, oh, a toad in the hole. Then you look at it. It's like, oh, it's some sausages in a pan with a mixture pudding on it, basically. All right. Well done. Good job. You guys are way deep down in the blank hole.
Starting point is 00:13:12 There's a certain like breakfast dish that I think it's one of those things where either you grew up knowing about it and eating it and it's perfectly normal or. you have never heard of it ever and then when somebody brings it up to you it's like what in god's name are you talking about um egg in the hole yeah the idea is you take a piece of bread and you tear a circle out of the center of the slice of bread and then you like butter it and then you put it in a pan and then you crack an egg into the middle of it and then you flip the entire bread and egg over, basically, and you fry the other side. And then, of course, take the circle of bread and you fry that in the pan as well. So you get the bread circle, too. So essentially, it comes out as a fried egg, but it's, but it's inside. Rained by bread. Yeah. A ring of bread. Yeah. I used to love
Starting point is 00:14:09 these as a kid. Why would just put the egg on top of the bread? Because that's not the point. It's not integrated. I know. I tried to make egg in the hole for my daughter who's five a few months ago for the first time. It was just one of these like classic, you know, parent moments like, oh, I'm so excited. Like I'm telling her all about it. I'm hyping it up. I'm like, it's something you've never seen before. And then I proceeded to just, you wouldn't think this would be easy to botch this dish, but I totally botched it. I used, I had a brioche bun, which just, it had so much butter in it. It started burning. It took me, it took me like, oh no, three attempts to get it like to actually looking right and like it like she was just at that point completely
Starting point is 00:14:54 uninterested didn't didn't want it at all yeah yeah i just feel like you can Karen the egg is in the hole you get it so this past summer good job bringing we were on break but Chris and I got to be on another podcast we were on escape this podcast again yeah where our amazing pals Danny and Bill. They design, host, and produce an audio escape room adventure. Their show is Escape This Podcast. And for this recent one, we escaped from a mini golf course. That was a really fun and cute episode.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Mini Golf has such a special place in my heart. I got married at a mini golf course. You guys were there because that's where we're my first date with my husband was at a mini golf place and to be honest it's such a good date place it is safe and you can kind of do the group date if you want to sort of you know ease the pressure a little bit yeah and it's probably a good place to tell if someone is crazy you know yes like their reaction to like the yeah to the game of minigolf could set up a lot of yes a lot of red flags angry issues or yep yeah yeah so in my head when I think about mini golf, I think of the giant clown mouth and you have to like hit the ball
Starting point is 00:16:21 through the buck teeth, the windmill, seven wonders of the world, that kind of stuff. And so I'm like, oh, thinking, I was like, okay, when when did golf become giant clown mouth? Right. Based on the Guinness Book of World Records, the first mini golf course is documented to be at St. Andrew's links. These St. Andrews. Okay. St. Andrews, yes, the oldest and probably one of the most prestigious, the home of golf. Yeah. Big deal. This is in Scotland and a fife in Scotland. And this is where miniature golf came to be. Back in Victorian times, you had two reasons to be at St. Andrew's links if you're a woman.
Starting point is 00:17:03 First, chances are you're somebody's wife and you have to wait for your husband to play golf with his friends. Second, you might be a fan of golf. But you weren't really entirely welcome to play on the main golf course. Back then, in Victorian etiquette, it just wasn't proper to make big swinging movements with your body. Right. It was frowned upon. St. Andrew's Links, they designed and installed something that women could play with more like a more constrained body movement. And they put out, like, a putting green.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Even though it's for women, other people joined in because it was, it was fun. Because it's fun. Yeah, 1867. However, here's my issue. Yes, it's technically miniature version of golf, but to me, it's not mini golf. Right. You want whimsy and weird structures and things like that. I want artificial man-made stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:18:08 This is still beautiful grass. You know, the lawn, it's natural. It's just kind of the curvature of the hills. Fast forward to 1930. There's a key invention that kind of helped propel this sport to become more of the artificial like mini-golf that we know of. And that is artificial green. Oh. Not artificial turf.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It literally is just like green sand. You know, at St. Andrews, it was with grass. You have to like mow the grass. You have to tend to the grass. And now they had this artificial green substance. that they can use instead of grass. You have all these people getting into mini-golf and all these people get into the business of mini-golf
Starting point is 00:18:47 because all you have to do is have this artificial green, put some holes on the ground, and then charge people. And the artificial green did something interesting. Now places that had weather conditions, they're not on the grass growing schedule. Now they can just set up and not worry about the weather. Making these mini-golf courses didn't really require a lot of natural space.
Starting point is 00:19:10 They could do it on a rooftop. They can do it in a building. They can do it at a park. And it was so popular in the 1930s. They dubbed it as the madness of 1930. The madness. Now, 1930s, this is when movies started talking, right? We went from silent movies to now we have talkies.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Minigolf was so popular that the movie industry was worried. They were sweating because they're just like, Oh, my God. Now, like, all these people aren't paying money to go into the movie theaters. They're paying money to play mini golf. And so a lot of the studios, you know, like back then, the studios have exclusive contracts with their actors and actresses. They would not let their stars even be seen playing mini golf. We don't endorse this. Yes. Yeah. For example, how probably was it? Between 1930 and 1931, this is from the Jacksonville Historical Society. Jacksonville had 15 courses, 15 mini-golf courses. This is also a time where there was segregation. And so you have
Starting point is 00:20:17 the white courses and then the African-American neighborhoods, they have their mini-golf courses. However, what goes up must come down. Big fad rise, a big fad fall. So remember how Jacksonville had 15 courses. Only six remained the next year. And then the year after that, zero. And so people got burnt out. They just lost their interest. Courses actually themselves had a variety of problems. Mob affiliation where this has become like the unsavory youth place. But even with artificial green, which is made out of green dye and like cotton seed holes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:57 The way you say artificial green makes me think of like soilent green each time you say. You know what? Yeah. Not that far off. Not that far off. So even with this invention, the courses. were still pretty plain. So in comes the 1940s, people lost interest, but Taylor Brothers, instead of getting into
Starting point is 00:21:15 the business of opening and maintaining mini golf courses as a business, they started making prefabricated courses that you can sell to people. And so other people can install it. And now they've added landscaping props like a castle, a little tree. Yes. We're still not in big clown mouth territory, but now we're kind of. adding to the landscape. You know, maybe like a little well or a little bridge.
Starting point is 00:21:45 The key thing is Taylor Brothers got a contract with the American military. So they were making these pieces, these prefabricated mini golf courses, to supply to army bases. And so now you have military bases all over the world, U.S. military with mini golf set up as like recreation. Now we're progressing to the 1950. This is Clown Town, guys. Okay, here we go. All right. It's post-war.
Starting point is 00:22:14 All these people who spent their time in military bases and are coming back home, there's an influx of money, prosperity, and this is the next big mini-golf boom. People had a lot of leisure time. People had a lot of disposable income. And also, 1950s, don't forget, this is like when people were into like science, space exploration, futuristic themes. And so now mini golf courses, all these people who played mini golf courses back in military bases are coming back to be like, oh, let's go. I wish I could play more of that. And so now the mini golf courses that set up in the 1950s are starting to incorporate some of the crazy stuff, like a rocket ship. 1995 Loma Golf founded by the Loma Brothers.
Starting point is 00:22:59 They're the ones who implemented the wacky trick shot windmill clown mouth. stuff, drawbridges, whale spouting water. The big advantage of having these big moving pieces is that people now have bought nice cars. Passer by cars can now see from a distance your big windmill, be like, what's that? I want to ask you guys, do you guys call it mini golf or do you guys call it putt putt? Mini golf. Mini golf or even miniature golf. But, yeah, I didn't, I don't think I heard Putt Putt until maybe Junior High.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And it was from, yeah, it was from like a friend from another state, you know. So I used to call it Put Put Putt, and then now I call it Minigolf because. Pure pressure. Yes. And Put Put Putt is a trademarked name. Put Putt Putt, LLC, started in the 1950s. And also, Puppah has its own. rules. Puppa is a different game.
Starting point is 00:24:07 No. Yes, the P-Put-putt course, Big P-P-P-P-P-P-puttputt course, every hole design is copyrighted. Oh, okay. And then every hole is part two. Oh. So it's literally like putt and then you putt and then you're done. It's supposed to be a more serious game. Oh, then I don't think I've ever played an official putt putt puttt.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Me neither. I don't think I've ever seen it's design. so that people can hit a hole in one, not out of luck, but out of very good skill. Okay. Right. Versus, you know, when you're at mini golf, you're like, well, let's just hit this ball and see what happens as it goes into the tunnel. Yeah, I just spits out from.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Flap is moving in the right direction when my ball gets there, right? And also for Puppet, very importantly, no themes, no themes, no props. It's what they call no frills, all skills. So that's the difference This is how the game has evolved From the ladies putting green To the big clown mouth The one at my wedding that you guys went to
Starting point is 00:25:16 It was all San Francisco based So there was like a lot of like the Transamerica building That one was a lot of fun I want to go play now You're making me realize it's been I think I've played maybe once Since COVID pandemic I do top golf now
Starting point is 00:25:33 top golf is fun yeah what is that so it's not mini golf it's driving range but with a game layer like it's like if you were at a driving range on top of a giant pinball machine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like a ski ball machine basically and and so each ball has an rfID and so it knows where balls going and then it maps an AR you know special zones that have more points and there's all these different game modes it's just a normal driving range but they just add this digital layer to it. And you can see in the big screen, you're like, oh, I'm going to aim it that way to hit in that hole that has more points.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's really, really fun. But then it's like, once you go, it's like, let's get drinks. Let's eat. Then at the end of the day, you're like, oh, that was pricey. That was pricey. And I'm still not good at golf. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah. People are always like, oh, you know, you can go play real golf. And I'm like, no, thank you. Yeah. I understand, yes, maybe I will enjoy golf the sport, but, like, I really like the top golf and mini golf. It's like when we were playing rock band, speaking of something that came and went, it was just like, we're all playing rock band. People were just like, wait, what are you doing? Go start a real band.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's like, no, thank you. No, I don't want to do that. That's hard. No, I will not. It's ridiculous. I want to play smashing pumpkins. Like now, not 10 years from now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 So I thought I would do something really special for this episode for you guys. I wanted to do like a musical sort of a quiz. But I wanted to just really take this one over the top. So I went ahead and I gathered together 10 very well-known musical acts. I got them all together in person. Wow. And then I pushed them all into a hole. As they descended, them all being consummate professionals, as I knew they were, they all began singing about their predicament. And I had, of course, anticipated this scenario. So I had the whole mic and I captured a recording that I will now play for you. Okay. So what I will ask you to do is you will listen to this recording of approximately one minute in length, try to write
Starting point is 00:28:56 down as many of the musical acts which are solos and bands as you can identify. We'll listen to it again afterwards give you a quick chance. It's a super cut music round. Okay, okay. Get your
Starting point is 00:29:11 writing implements ready. Are we ready with those? Yes. Yes. Okay. Three, two, one, play it. I keep on falling. Falling, ball and ball and ball in. Don't be alone if I fall. I'm falling again, I'm falling again, I'm falling so low that I've ever
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's all that I've ever been out Oh my fall and you're falling I hit the sun so low Wow. Sorry, I guess I didn't get all 10 of them into the hole. One of them said that they Say he's still standing. We'll play it a second time, but that's all you get. You get one more time through. So you'll know the ones that you wrote down. I'm sure you identified some. Maybe some you didn't. Maybe some are more in Carrey's wheelhouse. Maybe some are more in Collins. Maybe the audience has some answers. But if this were real pup trivia, you only play it once. You would only play it once. I want to know how many Colin has written down, like for sure. Okay, let's check in. I wrote down one, two, three, four, five, six that I'm pretty sure, one guess, and
Starting point is 00:31:10 then I have like three, I just couldn't catch it. Okay. What about Sharon? I have eight confident. Okay. All right. Okay. Let's hope that our confidence is overlap here.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Let's, as we move into the, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, second listen. Let's remember the classic pub trivia tip here of don't write down nothing. Like it's always better to write down something than to write down nothing. So if it's given you the vibe of a certain artist, like for no reason, you know, maybe write that down because maybe you're right. But let's listen to this just one more time. And then after that, we'll go through each one by one and we'll find out what the answers are. I keep on falling. Falling, falling, falling.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Don't be alone if I fall. Fall is to me. Fallen. It's still free. down with people standing around I'm falling again
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm falling again I'm falling down but all that I've ever is all that I've ever and I'm I'm dope that Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:59 The last one is good Just like tweaking you It's like I thought you got me No you didn't Okay So you've had your second listen You've written down everything This is this is a pencils down time
Starting point is 00:33:14 You at home You know Whatever you've guessed Those are Those are going to be your answers Because we're going to go through We can go through one by one And we'll find out
Starting point is 00:33:22 The names of these acts the theme of the musical quiz being falling down a giant hole, which is I assume what they're all talking about. Let's find out some of these answers if you do not know. All right, so here's clip number one. I keep on falling. Short and sweet. I was nervous because, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:44 you had the little tune-in sound in the first clip. I thought that was like a song, and I was like, I don't know what song this is from. Sorry, it's supposed to be the Doppler effect of people being pushed and falling. That's kind of what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But anyway, what did you have written down? You can show me your answers or just say what you have wrote down. That is, of course. Alicia Keys. Alicia Keys. Alicia Keys. And what's the title of that track? You don't have to, this is not for points or anything, but.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Fallen. F-A-L-I-N-A-N-A-Postrophy. Oh, yes, stickler for, yes, punctuation. And clip number two. We can't go a music quiz, a Chris Culler music quiz, without having some Fleetwood Mac on there. You cannot, no. And so we both got Fleetwood Mac. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Song title, anybody? I don't know. Let me work my way back from this one. Yeah, go for it. Is it when the loving starts? Is it, is it? It's a say you love me. Say you love me.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That's okay. Great, great. All right. Let's proceed a pace to clip number three. And don't be alone if I fall. Head over feet. Alanus Morissette. I also put Alanus Morissette, head over feet.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Very good, very good. We can move right on to clip number four. Oh, what is to me? Oh, me. Great track. This is my favorite song by them. Oh, my gosh. This might be one of my top.
Starting point is 00:35:25 two or three REM songs for sure. Well, very good. So it's REM. REM fall on me. Great work by the two of you. Okay, well, we're tied, right? Everybody has four? Yep. All right, let's see what happens. Moving into clip number five. I don't think anything's going to change. Didn't we just have a, not a fight, but a discussion about whether, whether this track was Tom Petty or Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? I will tell you that it is emphatically not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Oh, okay, that's what I thought. It was the first single of his first solo album as Tom Petty without the heartbreakers.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah. And wrote Tom Petty. Good to know, though, right? Yes, it's Tom Petty, free fall in apostrophe. The video for this was filmed at the shopping mall near my house that we would go hang out at all the time. Yep, him going up and down the escalators at the West Side Pavilion in beautiful Los Angeles, California. It is still there, not in the same format that it was when he filmed the video many years ago. I mean, all malls are like that, no.
Starting point is 00:36:47 More like free malling. Let's go to clip number six. Is it, are we going to be a little harder now? Yeah. Start to start to get a little murky for me. I had to go for a vibes. I went for a vibes-based answer on this one. Yes, good.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Always good. I think 80s, so I'm just going to go with 80s band. Oh. What did you? I was thinking later. I was getting like a maroon five vibe from it. Oh, yeah, because he sings high. Little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It was between Duran Duran or Dupesh mode, I put Duran Duran Duran. Oh, that's a good guess. Good, good guess. Good guess. You're both, you're both right. It is, and it is very much an 80s band, but the song was released in 2007, and the song is titled Falling Down by Duran Duran. Good, good poll, Karen.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Nice job, Karen. That really does have it, yeah. I was just talking about this with my husband. That era of 80s. British bands. They sing and pronounce very, very uniquely. You know, they really enunciate when they move with their lips. It's not yet, it's not falling down. It's falling down. All right, cool. Well, nice job Karen's brain. Let's go to clip number seven. I'm falling again. I'm falling again. I'm falling.
Starting point is 00:38:23 know what song, but this sounds like the sign of the times by Harry Stiles. But it's not the same song. I again, I was going vibes based on this one. As you said, had to write something. I put cold play, but I don't feel good about it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So, Colin, put cold play, Karen, you put Harry Styles. Harry Styles. The title of the song is Falling by Harry Stiles. Yes. Karen is seven. for seven. This is why we're a team. That's right. That's absolutely. Wits don't like the apostrophe
Starting point is 00:38:59 fall in. They have proper falling. I think that, yes, exactly. I think they see that as a crude Americanism. Um, falling. Let's move on to clip number eight. Any thoughts? Any thoughts from anyone? I thought this was like indie scene, garden steak, shins, death cab. I put postal service, but I don't, again, I don't think that's right, but that's kind of... It's not. They only had that one album and then like three other songs, and that's not one of them.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Iron and wine. It is a British band. Is it cold play? It's not cold play. The song title is also Falling Down, and it was released in 2008, just a year after Duran Duran's falling down. Oh, oh, interesting. This group is Oasis. Oh, get out.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I will not. I refuse to leave. It is Oasis. Yeah, yep, yep. And with that horrible revelation, we can now move on to clip number nine. I'm probably set to slow motion clips of animals in shelters. Oh, did I get it? The song is, it is Fall N, F-A-L-L-E-N by Sarah McLaughlin.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Did you both get that? Yes. Okay. And then just as a little victory lap, we'll move on to cliff number 10. Have you ever watched Sing, the animated? I have not. Oh, this is cute. This song is in it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Taryn Egerton. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. And he played Elton John later, I guess. That's funny. In the Rocket Men movie, in the Rocket Men movie ends with a complete shot-for-shot recreation of the music video for this song, also, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Oh, I didn't make that connection. Yes. originally by Elton John. So, yeah, Elton John, I'm still standing. Did not get pushed down the hole. Congratulations, Elton John. Everybody else is still falling. You're still standing.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So good work. I think, Karen, you brutalized that quiz. Just absolutely. Yeah, really. I hope you enjoyed this super cut music round. Thank you for being here. It is the battle of the word games, Colin, because I, I too, have prepared a word game. Help. We got a hole on this boat and water is leaking in.
Starting point is 00:42:05 We got to find all this H2O and get it out of here. Here I have an H2O word game inspired by Tyler, our friend, the CCL quiz that Tyler made, featured in episode 250. So here's the format of this game. I'm going to give you a clue that's very similar to a crossword style clue. And every answer is a common two-word phrase or name. So blank, blank. The first word will start with H, and the second word will start with H-O. Get it?
Starting point is 00:42:42 H-2-O. We got water collecting. So, yes, two words. First word's going to start with the H. The water is coming in the hole. Yes. Okay. That's, we got a hole in this boat. Yeah, okay, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I will not do the quiz unless it makes conceptual sense. We're going to alternate here because Chris, your buzzer is dying. Oh, okay. So here we go. Our H2O quiz, Colin, your clue is music genre. Hip hop. Correct. Chris.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Toy with Aussie Roots Hula Hoop Correct Colin Animated Blue Dog Huckleberry Hound Yes Chris
Starting point is 00:43:39 Where You're better than everyone else Oh Where you're better than everyone else Home So you better get off Oh, you're high horse Yes Oh, good, good, good
Starting point is 00:44:02 Colin An uplifting exclamation An uplifting exclamation This is me trying to be clever With like crossword clues Hi-ho heave ho heave ho
Starting point is 00:44:22 lifting oh I get it that's good that's good heave ho good okay Chris one with most authority one with most authority
Starting point is 00:44:35 one with most authority high holiness oh Japanese word in there I think right yeah there is a Japanese word Is it, is it head honcho? Head honcho. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Colin, often at 5 p.m. Happy hour. Yes. Chris, depression leader. Depression leader? Yes, depression leader. Oh, Herbert Hoover. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Let's just say big D. Good, good. Colin, escape expert. Harry Houdini Yes Chris To emphasize a point Um
Starting point is 00:45:25 Hit home Yes Hit home Hammer Home Also acceptable All right All right Last one
Starting point is 00:45:32 Colin Confident for a good Result Confident High hopes Yes Good job Every single one of them
Starting point is 00:45:45 As soon as you finish, I'm like, I'm never going to get this. And then like three seconds later, it's like, oh, wait, maybe it's this. It's nerve-wracking. Yeah, it is. All right, good job, everyone. We successfully got all this H-T-O out of the whole. We did it. We did it.
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Starting point is 00:46:38 The 19th hole. Yeah. You guys are accomplished trivia nerds. It goes without saying. So if I were to ask you what is the deepest naturally occurring point on Earth, you would probably know this and say, Mariana Trench? Yeah, that's right. Not trying to trick you, the Mariana Trench.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You got it. That's right. And most specifically, it is Challenger Deep, which is the deepest part of the Mariana Trench. It is, yeah, like it's the deepest of the deep. down in Challenger deep, just a shade under 11,000 meters down there, almost 36,000 feet. It's down there. That's pretty dang deep. And this comes up in trivia a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You know, we got Mount Everest, the tallest. We got Mariana's trench, the deepest. But I got to wondering, because I could see this popping up in Pub Quiz, what is the deepest artificial point on our planet, right? In other words, what is the deepest hole? ever dug drilled or otherwise willed into existence by
Starting point is 00:47:50 humans. And like, was it a good idea or not? Yes. That's right. I'm really wondering about. Let's just do it and see what happens. You know what? The answer turned out to be kind of more close to, let's just do it and see what happens than to anything else. So, all right. We're going to travel here mentally to the Cola Peninsula. Not Coca-Cola.
Starting point is 00:48:14 A. OLA, which is in the far, far northwestern part of what is today, Russia, near the border with Norway. It's up there. I mean, it's up inside the Arctic Circle. It is, I mean, off the beaten path for most travelers. In 1970, after several years of planning, the Soviet Union began a scientific mission to drill as deep as possible into the Earth's crust. They're like, we're going to start drilling and keep going to we can't drill no more. And the Earth's crust that is the outermost layer of our planet, it's approximately 25 miles thick. The Soviet scientists, they originally thought they might be able to drill down as deep as nine miles into the crust, all right? You know, I mean, there had been oil drilling expeditions and things like before. Like in this,
Starting point is 00:49:07 but this was really generally a pure science mission. They, they were, it was. It was. It was, was partly just to push the technology forward, just to see what do we need to do to drill this deep down into the earth? I know they had scientists there working. What if we drill? And it's like a nut. You just crack a nut. And the earth falls apart.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Put in perspective, though, even if they had drilled down nine miles, that would be substantially, substantially less than even one percent of the way through. So they were not in any danger of cracking the earth like a nut. Now, unleashing demons, you know, from hell, you know, always, always a risk there. But no, it was it was really for pure science. Like it was to study the makeup of the rocks and the earth's crust. They had a lot of theories about what was going on deep, deep below the crust, but no one obviously had ever been down there.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So 1970, they started drilling. out in the Kola Peninsula, what became known as the Kola super deep borehole. They started drilling with modified, lightly, oil drilling gear. But along the way, they had to design a lot of custom equipment. They had to design sensors. What was the, can you tell me anything about like the radius of this hole? Yeah, yeah. Because I'm trying to picture it in my head.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Can I put my hand in it? You could put your hand in it. The borehole itself, the main hole, was about nine inches across, all right? So you're not at risk of falling into the borehole. Nobody's going into the hole. No person is climbing down in there. But, yeah, I mean, you definitely want to make sure, you know, your hat and sunglasses are securely affixed to your head if you're peeking down in there.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It was not fast going, all right? They started, they started in 1970, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill. they were taking core samples basically the entire time and just almost right from the beginning learning really fascinating things um by 1979 all right so nine years of drilling with some you know hurdles along the way the borehole had passed 31,000 feet I'm sorry how are they getting the drill down there is the drill itself getting the the drill bit getting longer and longer are they putting it down on a rope like they're they're putting drill you know like a sort of a casing style drill apparatus down the hole down the hole down the hole down the hole and adding new pieces to the
Starting point is 00:51:48 top essentially and you add a new piece to the top you push it down add new piece to the top push it down that makes sense they did periodically have to swap out for new equipment which would mean pulling all the previous equipment back up and starting again so after nine years they had passed, as I say, 31,000 feet. So further down into the earth than an airplane flies above the earth when it's flying, almost, almost six miles down. At that point, that set a new record for world's deepest hole as of 1979 edition of Deep Hole's Global. And it passed actually What was the previous hole? The previous Deep Hole was an oil exploration hole in good old U.S. of A in Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So, yeah, those Soviets, they passed us. So this is like, we're doing the space race and then we're also doing the opposite of that. The super bowl race. Yeah, the super hole. You're absolutely right. I read more than one article talking about the Kolo Super Deep borehole that likened its origins to the space race. It was really a period with just, you know, scientific competition and one upsmanship or one downsmanship, if you will. Four years after that, so we're into the early.
Starting point is 00:53:05 early 80s now. All right. They've been drilling for 13 years. The borehole passed 39,000 feet. And I know these numbers, they're hard to envision because we don't deal with something this deep or long on a daily basis. But 39,000 feet. Wait, wait. How tall is the tallest man-made building? Is it still the Birch-Kalifa? It is still the Birch-Kalifa. Oh, yes. It is the orders of magnitude. Oh my God, the Birch Khalifa is only 2,700. I should also clarify that there wasn't, strictly speaking, just one path. So as they were drilling the borehole, they would sometimes have to stop and basically come back up and start again, sort of branching off the main. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:53:53 So if you could do a sort of a cross section looking at the holes, like we had like an ant farm or something like that, you know, you would see one main pilot hole. And then periodically you would see one's kind of branching off at slight angles. There were no fewer than five total borehole ends, even though they all started at the same surface. After they passed 39,000 feet, they paused the project for about a year, kind of to just have a bunch of ceremonial visits. A lot of scientists came to check it out. It was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:54:25 This was a really big accomplishment. They needed to sort of, you know, let the PR sort of do its thing too. And get more funding. That's right. Well, we'll come back to that in a moment here. So they started back up again in 84, encounter problems with the drill, stopped again. Started again in 86. You know, it kind of went like this.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Stop and start, stop and start. By 1989, all right, 19 years after they had started, the borehole passed 40,000 feet. All right, we're around 12 kilometers for our metric friends. It reached its lowest depth at 40,230 feet. So extremely deep. That was the borehole number three. That's so many Burge Khalifahs. It is so many Burge Khalifas.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah, it is deeper than Mount Everest stacked on top of Mount Fuji. It is at this point deeper than the Mariana Trench. So now things were tricky here, right? All right. So, I mean, they're going into uncharted territory. They're inventing new sensors to take readings. Bits would break. Drills would get stuck.
Starting point is 00:55:38 There was extreme pressure down there. I mean, as you can imagine, extreme pressure, extreme heat. And it turned out that the heat, in fact, was one of the biggest obstacles to continuing the drilling was they had. they had expected to find rocks basically at the boiling temperature of water to over 200 degrees Fahrenheit. When they got down at depth, they were encountering rocks
Starting point is 00:56:07 that were closer to 360 degrees Fahrenheit. It's not like molten rock on its own, but down that deep, with that much pressure, I read in more than one place that it was like trying to drill into plastic or like a pudding almost. Like the rock would hit it and it would just, it would almost be set.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Any liquid. Rock pudding. That's right. You would, if you would stop drilling, it would just sort of form back up around the hole. Oh, yeah. Materials, they just don't behave the same way they do up on the surface at that kind of pressure and heat. So, Karen, right. I mean, as you mentioned a moment ago, right, in addition to the physical and scientific challenges, a project like this requires a good amount of money.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah. Now, can you guys think of anything that might have affected? the availability of funding in the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. Probably the, probably the fact that it disappears. Yeah, probably the total collapse of their government is going to have a cast appall on funding. Yeah, and basically the funding dried up. They stopped drilling by 1994. And then over the next several to 10 years or so, the project was essentially decommissioned.
Starting point is 00:57:24 The station was abandoned. And the borehole, yeah, yeah, I mean, you can see pictures of it. It's not, it's not super obscure. You can go online and find photos of where the old site was. You can find some pretty neat photos of the borehole itself, although you can't, like, look down into the borehole because it was totally sealed. There's a very, very serious looking cap, bolted, welded, sealed on this thing. They do not want you going down in there. It's plugged.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It is, it is kaput. So that is, in fact, the deepest artificial hole. Still to this day, it is the deepest hole in the earth. There have been other boreholes that are longer, but they're more for like oil wells where they kind of tend to go at an angle. Oh, at an angle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So the Cola super deep borehole still the deepest. So what are some of the... It's a good band name. Great band name, Cola Super Borehole. What are some of the things they found? Well, they found fossils of microscopic organisms two billion years old, you know, that they just were multiple species that they did not expect to find or see. This blew me away.
Starting point is 00:58:36 This is my kind of takeaway wow nugget. When they got to around three miles or so down, they started seeing water. And this was a big surprise to the scientist because the prevailing belief, among geologists and scientists' time was that there was no way there could be free water that far down below the surface like it was just too dense too far down for water to make it yeah i mean right no one believed it in fact there was apparently some skepticism from the larger scientific community when the soviet scientists were first reporting this but they they like no look guys we got water here it's here where did it come from it's the rock is cracked and it's in the cracks
Starting point is 00:59:21 They believe the pressure at these depths was so great, so unfathomably intense, that it essentially squeezed out oxygen and hydrogen atoms from the very rocks themselves. Ringing like a towel! Yes, so pressure, like squeezing it out, like you say, like a towel or a sponge, and forming water. and then the water had nowhere to go. It couldn't migrate up. It couldn't evaporate and it just sat there. It's stuck. Kind of stuck there in the rocks.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And they say this a lot. You know, going underwater or going into the earth, you deal with pressures that are just unimaginable. Like, going to space is nothing. And deadly. Yeah, and deadly. Right. You could not want to be down there. Wow, they milked rocks.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah, exactly. They were milking the rocks, Karen. That's right. Milk and rocks in the cola super deep borehole. It's the hit single. Yeah, like I say, I encourage you go online, look for some pictures. There's not much to look at, but it kind of gives you a little sense of what the flavor might have been of working at the borehole site in the 70s or 80s.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Wow. Just had to share that with you guys. We now know the deepest hole ever, ever created by humans. I'm surprised there hasn't been a horror movie written with this as the setting. And just a real good reminder that. like the earth does not want us down there. Yeah. Like don't go down there.
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