Good Job, Brain! - 261: Picture This!

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Frolicking facts about the pictures and images in our lives. Get your first brushstrokes in with Chris' picture idiom quiz, and then get uploaded to the pixel family tree. Find out about the fascinati...ng tradition of courtroom sketch artists. And make your career a masterpiece with probably THE strangest quiz in GJB history, "If Famous Paintings Were on LinkedIn." ALSO: frog butt beetles For advertising inquiries, please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello, fellow fact-toid freaks and flap-doodle fans. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show, an offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 261, and of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your placid platoon of pleasant people pleased to present plenty of pleasurable podcasting. I'm Colin. And I'm Chris. And before we start, I have a very, very quick, very, very quick, I'm actually, Chris. What are you? Well, I mean, not just you, but it was from your, from your segment. A lot of UK listeners
Starting point is 00:00:52 wrote in to tell us that we pronounced the pen, what they call a biro, B, I, I-I-R-O, not A on the show, we said, B-I-R-O, named after the inventor of the ballpoint pen. All right. Be that as it may, and I'm not arguing here. I'm sure that people in the UK pronounce it byro. I did check, and the guy, Laslo Biro, inventor of the ballpoint pen, his last name was pronounced Bureau. We're all just going to have to agree to disagree here.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Everybody's right in their own way here. Thank you, everybody, for writing in to let us know. And then more from fans. I just want to share this kind of headline. This is shared by Lila from our Loeb-Trotters listener group, paraphrasing here. There is a species of a water beetle regularly get swallowed whole by pond frogs. And it says here, if you find yourself inside a frog, Your options are pretty limited, right?
Starting point is 00:02:01 There's death by digestion. But this particular species of beetle said, you know what? I bet there's another way. The beetle will just walk, walk along the throat, down to the stomach, walks through the digestive tract, until, lo and behold, walks out of the frog's butt alive. He's speed running the frog. That's, wow. So it's like, okay, it's like, rather than like wait for the slow chew and death,
Starting point is 00:02:39 like I'm just going to go just charge through this. Interesting. I was reading this. I was like, God, this can't be real. And so I did some sleuthing. And I actually found the research paper, like the scientific journal that this was in, written by researcher Shinji Sugira from Kobe Japan. This paper says,
Starting point is 00:02:57 Here I report active escape of the aquatic beetle from the vents of five frog species via the digestive tract. Although adult beetles were easily eaten by frogs, 90% of these swallowed beetles were excreted within six hours of being eaten. And surprisingly, they were all alive. Oh, my God. How, so how, how, how, how, how did he know that the Beatles crawled out, you know, and not, and not like the frog, like expelling it out, you know, like the Beatles crawled their way to freedom, like, like Shawshank Redemption.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And so, and, and this is what happened. He took beetles and he fixed the legs with wax. He coated the legs wax, fed those wax beetles to the frog, and they all died. Like there's something about them using their legs that helped them travel through the frog's intestines and then out of their their their butthole. And here's the thing. There is a video and I watched the video and it was it was like witnessing history because this video was the first documented example of a prey actively escaping a predator through the digestive system. We don't know any other animal that could do this or does do this. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And now there's a video of it. It's incredible. What I love is also that the frogs are still eating these things. You know, it hasn't modified the frog's behavior maybe. Anyway, it's more than just. Yeah. I was kind of, you know, dancing up to that point is maybe the frogs are doing this on purpose, right. It's like a colonic, like clears out the system.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So this researcher, this Japanese researcher, this isn't the only bug that he's doing some science experiments with. In 2018, our friend Bombadier Beetle, he was feeding Bombadier beetles to these frogs to see what happens. And it turns out the frogs are smart enough to be like, oh, get this thing out of my body and barfs out the Bombadier Beetle alive. Because, you know, what the bomb deer beetle does, it, it creates like a noxious explosion gas. So, like, the frogs, no, oh, my God, get this thing out of my body. Pretty enlightening, so. Now, Karen, do you think that he swallowed one of the bugs himself? Just to see?
Starting point is 00:05:39 No. Just to maybe sort of see. No, you don't think so. Okay. I think the human, I think the human body is. Yeah, probably a little more robust. A little more complex. Yeah, then.
Starting point is 00:05:48 A little further to walk as it was. Yeah. Well, would they say it's like, it's like when you like stretch it all your intestines, it's like super, super long. Yeah, we'd go to the moon or something. Yeah. All right. Without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, pop quiz, hot shot.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, so here I have a random trivial pursuit card. You guys have your bar. Is that your new buzzer? It is my buzzer. oh geez okay let's answer some questions this random card is you guys will love it it is music singles music all about music here we go blue wedge what pre-heartbreakers band did tom petty reunite with to release a new album and tour in 2008 oh pre tom petty and the heartbreakers did not know that there was one was he you know what i don't know you're not so it's either going to be a really famous band
Starting point is 00:06:53 that we didn't know he was in or someone we'd never heard of right i've never heard of it but i am not a tom petty person all right okay it is mud crutch oh yeah mud crutch it sounds like a like a vans warp tour it does sound like yeah right mud crutch mud crutch it sounds like uh it's something it's something you have to go to your doctor for after you came back from Burning Man. Ew. All right. Pink Wedge, what
Starting point is 00:07:25 1967 hit by the Mamas and the Pappas was a 1961 hit for the Shirelles. Oh, gosh. Sorry, 1967 for Mamas and Pappas, but 61 for the Sherelles. So straight girl group. Okay, so they're covering it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Let's not overthink it. Sure, I know it. Well, it's not California dreaming. I mean, that was an original, right? Sure, sure. Okay, so what did they cover? Oh, how about this? Chris?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Dream a little dream of me. It is dedicated to the one I love. I would not against that. Okay, cool. All right. All right, well, that was a hard card. Yeah, that was a tricky one. This is like music aficionados.
Starting point is 00:08:09 All right, Yellow Edge. What Blues guitarist won a Grammy for his 1991 comeback album, damn right I got the Blues, which included collaborations with Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. All right. All right, Chris. Because I know who made a comeback in those days. I think it's BB King. Incorrect.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Dang. Dang. What blues guitarist won a Grammy for his 1991 comeback album, Damn right I Got the Blues, which included collaborations with Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. I can take more guesses if we're allowing that. Muddy Waters. The other one. The other one.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It is Buddy Guy. Buddy Guy. I get Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy mixed up. You know, that briefly entered my mind. I was not confident enough to say anything. All right. Woo! This card.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Purple Wedge, what Saturday Night Live comic has produced spoof music like the Thanksgiving song and the Ponica song. Yay. Chris. Adam Sandler. Yes. Oh, my God. Finally. This card. Green Wedge.
Starting point is 00:09:27 What 1993 film did Janet Jackson star opposite Tupac Shakur? Oh. Colin. I remember this one. This was poetic justice. Correct. And her name was justice, right? I believe. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Right? And she was a poet. Oh, okay. No, this was a good movie. I remember this one. This was a good movie, despite the somewhat corny name there. All right. Last question on this card, uh, orange wedge.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Who inspired Stevie Wonder to write, isn't she lovely? Oh. Colin. I believe it was, uh, his daughter, the birth of his daughter, right? Yes, yes. It just says his daughter. No name. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:08 No name on the card. Yeah. Some of you might know that good job brain is on Instagram. We're not like crazy active on it or anything. We sometimes share cool trivia or fact bits we see on reels. We try to keep up with the DMs. But mostly we just put up a post whenever a new episode comes out. I make an outrageous custom collage for every single episode.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So every episode gets this really wild looking picture and it contains images of every segment in an episode. Sometimes they're Easter eggs. or minor spoilers that I put in. The idea is when you put these all together in a grid on Instagram, it creates this even crazier-looking picture, like a collage of collages. So I was looking at this the other day, the idea of pictures and photos and paintings and images
Starting point is 00:11:04 is the inspiration behind the theme of today's episode. So this week, picture this. Okay, well, sure, I'll get things kicked off here then with a quiz I'm calling a picture round. It's the picture round, folks. Everybody loves the picture round at trivia. Yes, on an audio podcast. On an audio podcast. Maybe not the best idea. So rather than showing you pictures, we'll do a picture round this way. I'm going to ask you some questions. Every answer. will contain the word picture. All right. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:49 We'll have a mix of movie titles, book titles, song titles, and then, of course, everybody's favorite English language idioms with the word picture in them. All right. So let's get ready for a picture round. Get your barnyard buzzers. Here's your first question. A phrase meaning particularly beautiful. Karen.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Oh, pretty as a picture. Pretty as a picture. Pretty as a picture. What if the picture's ugly? Well, you know what, Karen, this dates back to when there were no photographs and we're talking about paintings and portraits, which were generally painted to be beautiful, maybe more so than real life. Right?
Starting point is 00:12:36 It makes sense there. Yes. Next question. a 1975 musical film written by and starring Richard O'Brien. Aaron. Rocky Horror Picture Show. A Rocky Horror Picture Show. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Very good, very good. How about this one? Without notable medical issues. Colin. The picture of health. The picture of health. Nothing wrong with you that the doctor can see. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:10 one for you. Holding back the years was the hit single off this 1975 debut album by Simply Red. What was the name of that album? What was the name? What was the name of that album? This might be a good one to know, you know, at least one of the words in the name. I feel like I can even picture the cover a little bit, not that that helps me in any way. Black and white. Black and white. the guy's face, he's looking very pensive. The title of that album was picture book. Ah, picture book. Is the title.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I don't think I was going to pull that one. All right, well, let's get it back. Here's another, here's the next question. Capish? Oh, oh, oh, oh. You get the picture? Get the picture? Yeah, very good, very good.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. Next one. Book and film about the career. of legendary film producer Robert Evans. Oh. Oh. Oh, Colin? The boy stays in the picture. Oh, you are marginally correct.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Is it? Karen. The kid. The kid stays in the picture. It is the kid stays in the picture. That's much snappy. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yes. Yeah. Very old Hollywood. No, no. Hey, that's why we're a team. That's how it goes. That's how it goes. Kids stays in the picture or the book and film about Bob Evans.
Starting point is 00:14:44 All right. Here's another one for you. Hey, stop staring at me, jerk. Colin. Take a picture. It'll last longer. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Generally said to people who are unnecessarily staring at you. What a long response. I love that one. I love that one. Whenever the first time I heard that, you know, when I was young, I was like, oh, that's good. I don't remember that. Oh, they got them.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. All right. Here's another one for you guys. The whole story. Whole story. Woof, woof, woof, woof. Sorry, my hand is, I'm feeding the baby. Full picture?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Low. Big picture? The big picture. The big picture. All right, again, you got me halfway there. We're turning the favor. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, I got picture.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yes. What is the premise of the quiz? Remember it's called Picture Round. All right. Jeff Bridges, Sybil Shepard, and more, starring this 1971 coming-of-age film, directed by Peter Bogdanovich. Hmm. Whoa. Holland.
Starting point is 00:15:59 That's the last picture show. That is the last picture show. Another album, another album for you. Maggie May. was the hit single off this 1971 Rod Stewart album people we know the song
Starting point is 00:16:17 and often don't know the name of the album that song was off as we are now finding we know it has picture in the title Maggie May was the hit single off this 1971 Rod Stewart album answer is every picture tells a story which is another song
Starting point is 00:16:34 another well-known another well-known Rod Stewart song It is, yes, yes. Okay. Ah. Here's one. Illustration is the best explanation. Oh, oh, woof, woof, woof, woof.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yes, dog? A picture is worth a thousand words. Picture is worth a thousand words. Good job, Karen. Nice. And the last one, which in and of itself is an interesting bit of trivia, all right? This Oscar Wild novel has been adapted as a motion picture. picture, no less than 23 times.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Whoa. Picture. Colin, bring us on. Is that the picture of Dorian Gray? It is the picture of Dorian Gray. No. The picture of Dorian Gray. It's picture.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It is a picture. I always thought it was portrait. I was like, ah, he probably said it wrong. The picture of Dorian Gray. Oh, that's good. man oh that be such a devious pub quiz question where you have to put in the right title oh my god people would or if you just present it as a 50-50 how many people would just start doubting themselves yeah that's a good one sweating first film adaptation of the picture of dorian gray was in 1910 wow wow and they just kept making them after that yep yep yep has there been a recent version of that one feels like we're about doing for one really There was like a 2009 version, but yeah. If you remember, League of Extraordinary Gentleman, which is a graphic novel, turned into
Starting point is 00:18:17 a terrible movie. Yeah. There is a character, which is Dorian Gray, but it's not like the book. But it's not the picture of Dorian Gray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. The full story. You guys know I love portmanteaus.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I've done a lot of portmanteau word quizzes in the past. And one of my favorite portmanteaus is. is the word pixel, right? Picture element pixel. And I think in a previous quiz, I was like, oh, you know, most portmanteaus are like one word plus another word. Like, are there triple portmanteaus? Turducken, like turducken is a three word portmanteau.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And one of the ones I found was voxel, which is a volumetric pixel. So volumetric picture element in my little mini segment here, I went and looked for, all variations of pixel or xel xel because we have pixel we have voxel right there's megapixel subpixel but what other other xels are there really to me a pixel is kind of like it's used as if to describe it's like the most basic little building block uh your little unit uh so here we have pixel voxel textel do we know what a texel is a textured pixel yes a texture element texture element so when you think of like video games when they have like texture mapping the individual units of those textures kind of tessellated together
Starting point is 00:19:52 is a texel a texel because it has to be a repeating pattern there's also a taxel and a tixel start to sound a little a little a little racy but it is not a tachs but it is not a tachs. Axel and a tixel. They are tactile. Oh. So if you think of like a touchpad in an area, how hard, how much pressure are you putting with your finger? Oh, okay, okay. You describe that as a taxil. For a bit of a throwback, a sixel, sixel, s I-xel-sixel, six-l, stands for six-pixel, which is, if you remember old, like, dot matrix printers,
Starting point is 00:20:36 in order to, like, print, like, a bit-knack graphic. It's a pattern of six pixels high and one wide. So the unit is, like, six-by-one, and that's a six-sol. You send that to your dot-matrix printer. Guys, I'm not going to go and explain what dot-matrix printer. Look it up. Ask your grandparents. Ask your parents. Parents might not know at this point, anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Oh, man. And there's also, now we're getting into it. to more technical fields and sciences. There's the mixel. It's a raster cell, which indicates elements of mix or multiple land cover categories. There is spaxil or spaksel. That is. Those are the little noodley things that they serve with the next to a German place.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, I've had spaxle before. Yeah. Is a spatial pixel. In a previous show, I talked about weight points in the air that like airplanes, you to direct them to different routes and exist in 3D space because it's the air. That's kind of an example of a spaksel, which is a spatial pixel. It's a spatial unit element in 3D space. Which is a cell, if you will, of space just up there in the, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Spaksel and butter noodles. There is a biopixel, biological pixel, I guess, biopixel. organized array of colonial bacteria almost like a unit within like a colony of bacteria is a biopixel where they organize themselves into the pattern roughly and then here a few more boxal a boxal is a set of axes aligned boxes that don't overlap and they usually represent like a 2.5d so I would imagine this kind of like keeping of cubor or isometric boxes and then we get into
Starting point is 00:22:39 really scientific stuff. Fixel, which is a fiber bundle in a voxel. So I'm guessing it's a fiber voxel, a fiber voxel, which is a fiber volumetric picture element. And then lastly,
Starting point is 00:22:55 there is good old Dixel. Dixel described as a time activity curve associated with the single pixel in medical imaging. I don't know what that means. I thought it was cool. So yeah. I'm not laughing.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Even a straight face. Dixel, Mixel, Spaxil, Sixel, taxil. It's like a nerdy version of the reindeer names, like Vixie and Donna Britson. Dexel and Taxel and Vauxhall and... It's almost like you need to claim your territory here. We're running out of letters to
Starting point is 00:23:29 affix to the, yeah, the beginning of the Xcel. I will You know what you remind me of, though? What? When you said Turducken, you reminded me that for Thanksgiving this year, I ordered a pie kakin, which is a baked good with the bottom layer being pecan pie. The middle layer is pumpkin pie. The top layer is like spiced cake, and then they dump apple pie filling on the top of this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I was there until you said dumping apple pie. Apple pie filling topping that's like sitting on the top of of this thing. And is it, does it have straight down sides like a cake or does it have angled sides like a pie? It has straight down sides like a cake. It looks like a cake. Okay, I guess it makes sense. Put into it and you remove a slice. You see that the pie layers and then a cake layer and then apple pie.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So it's everything you want out of a Thanksgiving dessert. I am very intrigued. all in one thing. Yeah. It's a pie kakin. It's a pie kakin. So that's why it's... So what's the N?
Starting point is 00:24:37 That's chicken. No, I don't think. I guess there is no N. That it's just a pike. Play on turduckin. Yes. I mean, the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 It's like, now the ken means, yeah, means like a super mashup of things. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. Exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Get to Toronto's main.
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Starting point is 00:26:16 Find us at Constantpodcast.com or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Good Job Brain Smooth puzzles, smart trivia, good job brain. Hey, we're back. You're listening to Good Job Brain, and Collins got a pretty picture. I do. As they used to say about Law and Order episodes, my inspiration for this segment was ripped from the headlines. Colin's inspiration from this segment was especially heinous. Dun-dun.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah, Karen, after you nominated the topic of Picture This for the show, I just that day was chuckling over something that I had seen on the news, on actual TV news, and then also on the internet. Oh, what's that. So have you guys been familiar? even in passing of the recent trial of Sam Bankman-F-F-F in crypto-financial circles, right, very recently convicted on all counts of some pretty severe financial crimes. During his trial, you know, United States versus Bankman-Fried, you know, big deal trial, there were a lot of courtroom sketches coming out of the trial because this trial had no cameras allowed, no recording devices, as, you know, as a lot of high-profile cases do.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And there was one day when a very particular sketch of Sam Bankman-Fried emerged. And all right, so in case listeners a year from now or in another country or another state or don't care, in case you've never seen a photo of Sam Bankman-Fried before, he is, and I will say this as honestly as I can, without trying to be mean, he is a pretty slubby-looking guy. And, you know, when he's young. Yeah, he's young. When we think of like financial criminals, we're thinking like old, slick hair, right, you know, like super fine dressed all the time. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:40 No, this is a young guy. Disheveled. Yeah, he was disheveled. He would very often just be wearing shorts and a t-shirt and he had just big, you know, kind of flupy, shaggy hair. I mean, he wasn't unattractive, but he's just a guy, you know? I mean, he's just a regular household. But so one of the first courtroom sketches that I saw him to emerge on this day, and it became a thing on the Internet, like, was it made him look, like, kind of hot, actually.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It was like, people were like, is this, it was like, it was like, like, is this Brad Pitt on trial? Like, who is this courtroom sketch artist, like, trying to show us his picture of? Oh, it looks like something out of Phoenix Wright. He, it looks like, it looks like an illustration from like an anime. So it got me thinking immediately about courtroom sketches. and just the whole art and practice and mystery and science of it. And like just at its core, most importantly, why do we do this? Why is this a thing?
Starting point is 00:29:38 And like, is it- Colin, this is like one of the things that like I don't really normally think about. But when you said it, it's like, what is the deal with? Yeah. All right. So first of all, what are we talking about, a courtroom sketch? A courtroom sketch is a picture of the proceedings during a trial in the courtroom of a, this is what it looked like to be on the scene.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Because they have no cameras. Because many, many courtrooms and many jurisdictions, and we'll come back to this in a moment, do not allow recording devices, cameras of any kind. And so the only way to get a visual representation out is for someone to draw a picture of it. And so there are a lot of artists who do this all over the country, all over the world.
Starting point is 00:30:19 But there is this sort of a style to it. And you kind of recognize it when you see it. It's very fast. big broad lines, uh, usually not colored in all the way. There might be some colored accents, maybe on, you know, the main witness. You know, when it's reproduced on the TV news or in the paper, it's always in like that off white or maybe brown paper background. It's not, it's not a caricature. But sometimes they're, they're more like impressionistic renderings of people, right? I mean, you're trying to capture something that has a lot of drama and energy. It's, it's really
Starting point is 00:30:50 amusing when the person in the sketch in a courtroom sketch is a celebrity. or a politician or anyone in the public eye, really, where as a news consumer, you already have a pretty good idea of what this person looks like in your mind. And so I feel like, you know, the stakes are higher for, does this look like this person? And a lot of courtroom artists will tell you
Starting point is 00:31:14 that's not their goal. Their goal, they are not doing a portrait. They are not there to do a portrait of this person. They are there to capture a sense of the proceedings and that it should feel real, even if it's not truly representational. Got it. You know, there was like, I guess this was within the last year,
Starting point is 00:31:32 there was that Gwyneth Paltrow case, right? Oh, yeah, that's the ski case, right. So, you know, like, that's an example where, like, if you looked at some of the courtroom sketches out of that case, you're like, oh, okay, I, knowing that that's supposed to be Gwyneth Paltrow, like, yeah, I could see it. But you might not necessarily, if it was just presented to you cold, say like, oh, yeah, that's Gwyneth Paltrow.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Oh, my God. Hold on. I mean, we're at audio podcast. But that would be an amazing picture round quiz, which is famous celebrity trials, but you just post a picture of the court sketch and you're supposed to try to guess based on what they're wearing or whatever. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So in the U.S. at least, courtroom artists date back pretty far. I mean, at least of the 1800s. And, you know, not surprisingly, maybe, they kind of mirror the rise of mass media. And in particular, the newspapers, early newspapers. And that was really the only way before photography was reliable enough to get a photo fast with a minimal amount of equipment inside a courtroom and then transferred to a newspaper in time to run it the next day. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So the earliest visual representation that newspapers would have of court trials was drawings. Even to this day, the exact rules around courtroom sketching vary a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I looked into this. Like not only in the U.S. but in the U.K. as well, many other countries. Some courtrooms would, if the judge allowed it, would allow a person to sketch in the courtroom during the proceedings, as long as they weren't causing a ruckus or being, you know, overtly loud. Some jurisdictions during some time periods would require you no recording of any kind, no drawing, no nothing. So the courtroom sketches would be done from memory after the proceedings. Whoa. Right. So before cameras, before video cameras, of course. course, we need someone drawing it. And, you know, maybe the judge allows it. Maybe the judge doesn't. But as technology got more advanced, it started creeping into the courtrooms.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You know, in the early 1900s, as camera technology, radio technology got more and more widespread and easier to reproduce actual photos, it became a standard way of covering high profile trials. Again, depending on the judge and not at like the federal level or the Supreme Court. and it got bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually it came to a head and the technology itself became an issue by creating too much sensation around a 1935 trial
Starting point is 00:34:06 which was to this point the most sensational trial in U.S. history it was the trial of Richard Houtman for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. Very, very high profile. The kidnapping and then ransom of Charles Lindbergh's infant, toddler, baby, who, I mean, was tragically later found dead.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And then the eventual arrest and trial of a man named Richard Hauptman. It was at that point the biggest. The trial of the... It was, the trial of the fill in the blank, right, in America. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So after the trial, a lot of people, including the feds, felt like that the media itself had just gone too far and just created, just there was so much attention.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I mean, everyone had a radio in their house. There were 12 newspapers in New York alone. And so it was just, it was just too much. So there was a federal committee that looked together to put some standards around media coverage in court, really trying to put the brakes on. The American Bar Association, this was kind of the big move. They passed what was called Canon 35,
Starting point is 00:35:15 which was essentially barring cameras from courtrooms at that point. So coming out of that trial, there was like a big step back away from cameras and any kind of recording device, which really kind of prolonged the period of courtroom sketch supremacy. Again, technology kind of pressing a little bit, a little bit, but in a different way. So as the rise of TV news came into the 1960s and they were still not allowed to record, they couldn't send TV cameras into the courtroom. but here you are on TV news and people want something visual to go along. So there was like almost not a rebirth
Starting point is 00:35:56 but like taken to another level of courtroom sketch artist entered a new golden era with the rise of TV news. I mean it seems maybe ironic right that the super low tech way of you have to show something. You have to show something.
Starting point is 00:36:10 That's exactly right. I'm not telling a secret here. Eventually the pressure became too great. The American Bar Association did repeal their stand against cameras and recording devices and courtrooms, leaving it up to some jurisdictions and judges. Now, it's up to each state. Most states allow it, if the judge allows it.
Starting point is 00:36:27 At the federal level, however, it is just something that just they don't do at the federal level. So no Supreme Court, you know, these days, judges that allow cameras or even video cameras inside the courtroom will do it generally if it's a case that is of really intense public interest. Maybe a politician on corruption charges or, you know, maybe it's important that the public see how justice is being done. So it's, you know, oppressing public need is really these days what a judge will decide whether or not to allow cameras and recording devices. So Karen, what are some of your questions that you have? How does a person become a courtroom sketch artist? Do you need to be certified? Do they put you in apprenticeship, you know, or do they give you a test?
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, that's a great question. How do they measure if you're good enough? Generally, if you're at it for a long time and you're really good at it and very high profile, you will have a media credential on behalf of a major news organization. So CNN might have a media credential or the New York Times might have a media credential, and they will use that to give to a courtroom stench artist. They might have more than one. Some jurisdictions, the courtroom stench artists, just come in as members of the general public.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And they're seated, you know, again, without being disrupting. It's like their public service. Yeah. Some courtrooms, there's a special area for the courtroom sketch artists. But there's no special particular accreditation or anything that you need. It's kind of you get your foot in the door as an artist. Terry Cruz, you know, actor Terry Cruz. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:05 He reported that he got his start as a courtroom sketch artist, in fact. What a Renaissance man. Yes, truly a Renaissance man. So you kind of just need to. be able to produce fast work that is representational enough and high quality enough and available, right. And if your media organization likes you, they'll keep, you know, giving you their credentials to go cover the trial.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And if you produce work where the person looks maybe a little silly, they might not bring you back. The Supreme Court, by the way, shows very little sign of softening on video cameras. They have started to allow some audio recordings, but in terms of visuals, it's courtroom sketches. Yep. And U.S. federal trials as well. Do you know, Colin, how much they get paid? Are they by a case or by day or by hour? That's a good question. I would assume that it's probably hourly work. For the whole case. I would assume it's probably hourly work. That's a good question. If any of our listeners are sketch artists, you let us know. Wow, what a fascinating career.
Starting point is 00:39:06 What a fascinating job. It really is. It really is. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frails with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrails.ca. Well, speaking of jobs, I've made a quiz. Some might say it's avant-garde. Some might say it's weird and random. But I'm just going to, I'll just cut to the chase.
Starting point is 00:39:40 The title of my quiz is, if famous paintings were on linked in a lot of disclaimers this is this is a weird one i don't know how how well this is going to land but hey we're here to push the envelope on on trivia experiences i love it i wanted to do something about famous paintings you know lesser known facts or misinformation about some of our famous paintings so i was like oh trying to find a way to do a quiz. It's always weird to do a visual-based thing on an audio podcast like this one. Yeah. So it's like, oh, what can I do? Do I just describe the painting? And at the same time, like I said in the last episode, I am getting laid off. And so I've spent quite some time recently
Starting point is 00:40:32 on the website, LinkedIn. For those who don't know, it is the professional networking job. directory website and platform. So you can go on it to like look for available jobs posted by companies. Your own profile is like a resume. But LinkedIn is also partially a social media networking website. So people like to post things. And there are posts about, oh, you know, here's some news about my company. Oh, let's congratulate this person on their promotion. However, there is a subset of these LinkedIn posts. How would I describe this? They're like business inspiration, like business inspo. Business inspo. Trying to like get people inspired about the entrepreneur, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:24 about hustling, about business, about career, about work, you know, posting stories or advice or wisdom on LinkedIn. Have you guys come across? Have you guys seen any of this? Yeah. Yeah. Just, you know, just go get it. Go rise and grind, you know. Yeah, for example, it's like, my coworker asked me for a pen. I gave him a pen, but what I really gave him was an opportunity for creative freedom. You know, it's kind of like dramatic and it's failure is part of success, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Some people do it really well. Some people really enjoy this. So taking inspiration from the famous paintings and also being on. LinkedIn. I tried to imagine what would these business inspiration posts on LinkedIn sound like if they were written by a subject of a famous painting. Do I have your attention? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm in. Okay. 100%. So what this quiz is, you'll listen to clips of a subject from a famous painting and they're reading their business inspiration LinkedIn post in this post in this narration there will be clues about who they are about the painting they're in and your job is to
Starting point is 00:42:50 tell me based on this parody LinkedIn post what the famous painting I'm looking for is does that make any bit of sense so the answer the answer is the name of a painting Name of a painting. All right, okay. So, yes, let's jump in, let's work together, talk about some of the clues that you hear, and see if you can come up with the answer, and the answer is a famous painting. Here we go. Roll the clip.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Hello, fellow LinkedIn visionaries. To become a mighty Aphrodite in the career world, I've learned that it's important to surround yourself with a winning squad. Shout out to Zephyrus on the left for always pivoting where the wind blow. and to my girl, the Hora of Spring on the right for her warmth and constant preparedness. A team built on diversity will birth success, so let's unveil our true and beautiful selves. The world is our seashell. Nice, nice. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:52 The world is our seashell, I think, maybe the biggest clue there, right. The artist is that Botticelli? I believe it is, yes. The Birth of Venus. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. The Birth of Venus by Sandro Botticelli. Good job. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:44:12 So we have the seashell. She's describing her squad. You see this on LinkedIn when people like tag a bunch of people. Yeah. Congrats to so and so and so and so. Thank you so and so for this. So that was kind of my inspiration. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 She's really into casual Fridays in the workplace also. too casual maybe a fan maybe a little NSFW all right good job birth of Venus
Starting point is 00:44:40 and so there's actually three people around her there's two people on the left one is Zephyrus the god of the wind carrying like
Starting point is 00:44:49 another person who is supposed to be like the spirit of the breeze like a lesser god of wind the god of the breeze I guess
Starting point is 00:44:57 and then on the other side it's the The horror, which is the hours, there's the lesser goddesses called The Hours, and this is the hours of spring. So she's, like, ready to put some clothes on Venus, because she's naked. All right. Good job. Here's the next one.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Lessons from farm to table, the board table, that is. Remember that overalls is not just a uniform. It's a mindset that things can get dirty at any time. So, be prepared. Our farmhouse symbolizes the importance of teamwork. As you can see, my daughter has earned her place as my second in command. Our business is strong, but our family is stronger. So when your career feels overwhelming and aimless, like scattered piles of hay,
Starting point is 00:45:44 you got to just dig your pitchfork in, because you know what? Success is a crop worth harvesting. That's his daughter? Yes! That is his daughter. I was going to say, that for me is the biggest. clue because this is a painting where many people assume it is a farmer man and his farmer wife but it in fact is a farmer man and his farmer daughter yes yes name of the
Starting point is 00:46:10 painting title of the painting american gothic some hard living on that farm yeah by uh wood right grant wood yes first of all the two people in in the portrait they're not like really farmer and wife it's like people who modeled for the painter. They're not like a real farm life couple. Also, they're not a couple. It is supposed to be father and daughter. Yes, I believe, I might be wrong. It's his dentist.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I remember learning that, yes, his dentist. And I believe he painted it for his dentist to either repay a favor or a debt. Good job. Next LinkedIn influencer. Being weird is winning. Yeah, I said it. The best companies in the world all came from a weird idea. Of course, we have to balance the surreal with the real.
Starting point is 00:47:01 We have to think elastically to innovate, but still need solid ground to scale. So break away from routine and explore new horizons before time melts away. Time is our canvas. Let's paint it with bold strokes. Ha ha. Time melts away. Yes. Time melts away, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:23 They're all saying the same thing. All of these posts are like, hard work. Yeah. Sees the opportunity. Right. Embrace change. I made my first million by melting a bunch of clocks. What's your second million dollars going to be?
Starting point is 00:47:36 I'm like, I don't know. How about, well, Salvador Dali, but I actually do not know the name of agreement. Clock milty. Yeah. The melty clocks and watches and stuff is called the persistence of memory, I believe. Correct. Persistence of memory. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Very, very common trivia question. We all call it the melty clocks. Right, the melting clocks, the melty clocks. That's the marketing guy in the room. Like, we're getting, you know, Salvador, focus groups are really liking melty clocks. Have you thought about melty clocks in a snow setting? because we're seeing big seasonal holiday potential here. Pumpkin spice, melty clock, Salvador.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Just think about it. Good job. And the next one. I did it. I have mastered the art of flow. I definitely have my big ups and big downs. But you have to embrace change in your professional life and learn to ride the currents, not fight against them.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Work together with the mountains in your way, because you can find harmony in your career path. So LinkedIn Surfers, let's ride life swells. When the tide is right, the currents are yours to conquer. Hashtag, say Say Say Say, Sianara to failure. Currents and waves and... Yeah, Sionara. Yeah, all right, right.
Starting point is 00:49:13 At first I was thinking, like, literal surfer, surfer. But no, I think we're... I think we're more in, like, maybe a... Hokusai. Yeah, yeah. The Great Wave off of Mount Fuji sort of thing. Oh, you're so close. What is it?
Starting point is 00:49:28 It is the Great Wave off Kanagawa. Oh, right. That's the title of what we colloquially call it Hokusai's wave, the famous Japanese woodblock printing wave. The title is the Great Wave off Kanagawa by Hokusai. And the interesting thing about this painting or print. is that it revolutionized Japanese art because of the blue, because this is hard to imagine, but we've talked about us on the show a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Like, pigments back in the old days, they're hard to come by. You know, we didn't really have, like, people really experimented to try to get colors. And so this is Prussian blue. And Prussian blue came to Japan, introduced this blue to a whole name. to a whole culture who has never seen this blue in art before. All right. We got two more. Here's the next one.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Bonjour no, Linkadin. They say I'm mysterious, but life is full of enigmas, and embracing them can lead to success. With 500 years of experience, I know a thing or two about striking a pose. Remember, the way you carry yourself can leave a lasting impression. and don't underestimate the influence of a genuine smile. A positive attitude is your most valuable asset in any journey. So what masterpiece are you creating today?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Let's chat below. What masterpiece are you creating today? I can absolutely see like a company. Because like a lot of these posts, it's like an image and then pithy statement, you know, accompanying it. Yeah. Well, you know, let's just say if I could insert audio emojis, I would. When you're reading these posts, usually on LinkedIn, they're filled with, like, emojis. Yes, like a rocket ship or money bags or, you know, that kind of like an arrow going up.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It's like, it's such a big part of these posts. Oh, my gosh. All right. Anyway, Italian lady, Italian lady with a smile and an air of mystery around her, striking a pose. It sounds like the Mona Lisa. by Leonardo da Vinci. Yes, sir. Wow, I got it.
Starting point is 00:51:54 La Joconde. La Jocombe, yes. Wow, I was just, that was my follow-up. Right, the actual name of the painting? Yes, here we go. Last one. Thank you, everybody, for your patience. And the fact that you're sitting through this quiz.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You, like, you, like, listeners, you don't know, like, before the show, Karen is like, if this one goes off the rails, like, I've got a backup quiz prepared. Like, she was ready to pull the ripcord. But no, I, I think this is a smashing success. I, I, I, I, I love this quiz. No, this is great. I love it. I'm glad. It's got like a, it's very strange. Rope made out of sheets, like, running out of her window right now. I just make a hasty escape. Hope you guys like it. Here we go. Our last linked influencer. How to master the rough and the bluff. You see, poker teaches us the art of observation. In your career, pay attention to details, sniff out opportunities others miss. I may be colorblind,
Starting point is 00:52:56 but I can sense a winning hand. So I'm betting on my future, I'm going all in. It's time to unleash your instinct about your career path. I am open to DMs and treats. All right, well, this influencer is open to treats, wants to see. Sniff out, wants to sniff out, uh, your, your instinct opportunities, is sadly colorblind, um, and is, and is a, and is a master, uh, of the, of the, the, the sport of kings, uh, poker. It's, uh, the very famous, uh, dogs playing poker. I don't, I do not know the artist, but I do believe, I do believe the official title, Chris is. get out really a friend in need oh my god oh my god calling calling okay so a little bit about that chris you are correct this series is called simply dogs playing poker you've seen it before it's parodied in like pretty much every cartoon so many movies it is a scene of literally
Starting point is 00:54:16 dogs around a poker table playing poker. But the problem is, that's the name of the series. Series. There's series of 16 paintings. 16. 16. I don't know what the total count of dogs is, but it's high. You know, because there's multiple dogs per painting, right?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Sure. Well, it's an elimination tournament. Overhand. Yeah. Yeah. By Cassius Coolidge. Cassius Marcellus Coolidge Coolidge
Starting point is 00:54:48 How I'm remembering is Dogs playing poker is cool It is How cool is that? Coolidge 16 paintings And the most famous one Out of the 16
Starting point is 00:54:59 Colin you're correct A friend in need Right Because one of the dogs Right is passing another dog Like an ace under the table or something Right isn't that like what's going on So A
Starting point is 00:55:10 What a strange painting idea Yeah I had to sit there this week writing from the point of view of a dog playing poker from this painting how it would look like on LinkedIn and I'm like, what am I doing? Good job. Wow, you guys nailed
Starting point is 00:55:32 all of them, all of them. He did. Really good one. Really like that one. Thank you for not quitting on me. I was like, oh man, they're going to leave. Outrageous. And that's our. show. Thank you all for joining me and thank you listeners for listening
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