Good Job, Brain! - 279: Fins & Flippers

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Special guests Dani and Bill from Escape This Podcast join us for a flippin' fun trivia time. Does your instinct betray you? Then come on down and test your lie-detection skills with Bill's brain-tingling 50/50 quiz, "Finn or Flipper?" Suit up because Dani's taking us diving into the wacky history of swimwear. And are you're dolphinately ready to take a reely fintastic famous aquatic animals quiz? And Karen recounts how America got flippin' mad over pinball machines. For advertising inquiries, please contact [e-mail]! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, great grinning grapplers who graze on griddle cakes and pinogrigio. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and Offby trivia podcast. This is episode 279. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your unusual and uncanny underclassman ungulates. Unusual, yes, because we have a few special guests joining us today for today's jolly fun time. Please, everybody, welcome again, Bill and Danny from Escape This Podcast, our Thunder from Down Under. Say hi, guys. Hello, hello. I'm Bill. Not only are we here. We've just,

kicked out Chris and Colin. Yeah, who needs them? They're dead weight. They're keeping this podcast from soaring, soaring into the skies of trivia perfection. We're the wings. Picture me and Danny as two classic Wright brothers' wooden wings attached to the body of Karen Chu. I imagine my face like Thomas the Train, but I have like airplane propeller on my nose. Fan art, fan art, please, fan art. Yeah, if anyone wants to make some fan art of Karen the plane. I'm so grateful to see you guys. You guys are like some of my favorite people. I'm so glad that's being recorded.

I'm keeping that. We have a big show today. So without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, Pop Quiz, Hot Shot. Here I have a random American Trivial Pursuit card. I'm going to ask some questions. Bill and Danny, you will answer them. With your buzzers? Oh, I got a buzzer.

Let's see if they work. All right. I will test out my buzzer. Perfect. Excellent. And here's mine. Here we go. Let's answer some questions.

Blue Edge for geography. In which London Square are the four 20-foot-tall landseer lions that tourists love to climb. My buzz is not done yet. I don't think you can hear a quack over that. Everyone heard that quack come in second. Trafalgar. Trafalgar.

Their massive backs have endured thousands of butts. Oh yeah. I think mine may have been one of them. Thousands. This seems conservative. Yeah, millions of butts. Pink Wedge for pop culture, which bluesy singer got $7,500 for her Woodstock gig, wowing the crowd with peace of my heart.

Uh-oh. Oh, music is yours. Bill? I don't know, maybe like Joan Baez? Is she old enough to be doing Woodstock? It's bluesy, though, right? She's very foxy. The first letter is kind of close.

Joan Jett. Jennifer Jum Jum Jum Jum And he just stole my best guess With Jennifer Jum Jum Jha So Would you have known this if you got this, Karen? Yes, piece of my heart

It's J.J and Janice Joplin Is she bluesy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know to describe her, I'm an idiot. Come out, take it. Take another little bruise of my heart now, baby. Oh, yeah.

Oof. All right, yellow wedge. Don't worry about it. Which U.S. president nominated Sandra Day O'Connor to be the first female justice on the Supreme Court? Oh, no, I don't know when that would have been. 80s. Okay. If it's the 80s, I'm hoping it's Reagan.

It is! There you go. Ronald Reagan. All right, Purple Wedge. What author of the bleak poem, The Wasteland, was a practical joking. who made good use of exploding cigars and whoopie cushions. Oh, who's the silliest poet? What author of the bleak poem, The Waste Land, was a practical joker?

I'm blanking on every name I've ever known. Bill. Um, I don't know, Percy B. Shelley? It is T.S. Eliot. Really? What's in it with bleak poetry? He's writing about cats all the time. Cats! Yeah. Green Wedge for Science and Nature, what are you afraid of if you suffer from acrophobia?

Danny. Heights? Correct. Heights. And last question here, Orange Wedge. What do participants wear in the South Pole 300 challenge, a hot sauna to frigid air feet that boasts a 300 degree temperature change? Bill Nothing

It's got to be nothing right The answer is Nothing but Boots So I'll give it to you Yeah I'll give that to me too Just so it doesn't go to Danny Nothing but Boots

Woof Well We've done American Trivial Pursuit Can I ask the honour Of Australian Trivial Pursuit For people who are wondering

Whether or not We should be on this show when Karen said, do you have an Australian Tribal Pursuit card? Danny said, oh, Bill, it's in the top drawer, and I didn't have to get up from my seat. I just opened the drawer next to my computer, and I had a box of trivial pursuit. Not the whole trivial pursuit box, just cards. Just the cards, yes. They're out and ready.

That's the kind of life we live in case you're gatekeeping who's on good job brain. Every room in my house has a stack. It's just hidden somewhere. All right. All right, here we are. I hope you've picked a very Australian one. Blue for geography. Who is Sydney's airport named after?

Is it not Mr. Sydney? Oh, I'm so sorry. It's not the Lord Sydney. That is Sir Charles Kingsford Smith. It is Sir Charles Kingsford. Smythor. Oh. I don't know how much people know about him outside Australia.

I had to give a speech on him in year three. Sorry, say Charles Kingford Smith. Kingsford. Kingsford Smith. They get farless Australian for this point on. Bruce Willis played boxer Butch Coolidge in what film? That is Pulp Fiction. That is Pulp Fiction.

Yay. All right, yellow, yellow wedge for history. Oh. Shea Gavara was killed in 1967 while attempting to lead a revolution in which country. Oh, which one. I'm bad at knowing which countries he went to and came from. Well, motorcycle diaries, they were... I'm like...

I hear the quack. Venezuela. Oh, I'm so sorry, that's incorrect. Save us the embarrassment. The answer is Bolivia. Okay. Purple, I think you'll get this one. I don't think you'll have any issue at all.

In fact, I'd buzz in now if I was you. Okay. Good. What symbol takes its name from the Greek for Little Star? What symbol takes its name from the Greek for Little Star? It takes its name from the Greek for Little Star. Asterisk? Asterisk.

Okay. Everybody ready for this great green question that no one's going to like? Or maybe you'll love it. Maybe you'll love it. It's my favorite question. They'll be like, wow, do you remember that episode where they ask this question? What kind of pencil has flatter sides to prevent it from rolling? Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Karen. Carpenter's pencil? It's a carpenter's pencil. I think it was some sort of tradesmen. And then finally, the orange. What is the nickname of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, home of the Indianapolis 500? Oh, you said all the words I know to associate with that.

Oh, what's the Speedway? What's the nickname of the Speedway? Oh, the track. God, it does have a name, and I don't know where it is. I didn't know they had names. In 1800s, and you're just outside of London, and you've got a job to do. You'd go in here. What? You'd go there nowadays too, but really, you'd be doing it in the 1800s.

Oh, I've got to build a bunch of row houses. Luckily, I can help by going to this place and doing my job here in 1800s, London. The smokehouse. Yeah, smoke stacks. I'm so sorry, it's the brickyard. I work in the brickyard, I do. They send it all me bricks up to Birmingham, they are, and they're building miles and miles of these houses.

sounding like Michael Cain Oh, I wish I were Michael Cain But he's not been born yet, you see Because it's 1872 All right Good job, Brains Thank you for Australian Trivial Pursuit This week's episode

Actually, Danny had the honour Of picking our topic It was a lot of pressure 277 other episodes Minus the All quizzes There are a lot of things that you've discussed It really is getting harder to pinpoint a topic.

But you did a great job. Please, can you share what you chose for today's episode? Last time we were on, I went very animal-focused, and I was definitely thinking of that. And of course, I'm always thinking about how much you know about sharks, so I can't ask shark questions. But that put my brain into the sea. And then from sea animals, I went with a phrase that seemed like it could fit that, but also has so many other meanings that hopefully there were loads of different directions that could be taken, and I hope we have done that.

And so the phrase that I came up with was Finns and Flippers. So this week, thanks to Danny, it's Fins and Flippers. Okay. at the first segment, and I was thinking of Finn and Flipper for a while, and my brain was trying to go to weird places. My first thought was, how about a Nordic Gymnastic team? They're Finnish flippers. It's a Finn or a Flippers, you know? Perfect. And then I got stuck on, like, flippers being coins. Like, you know, you have a coin flip.

I also thought of that. I thought about going through different ways of, like, predicting things or betting on things or gambling games. Oh. And then in the end, the two ideas sort of merged. I had fin, but as a fin, and I had flipper, like a coin. And so I present to you my nine question quiz. Is this a coin or a countryman?

Is it a demonim or a denomination? Is it a fin or a flipper? I get it. Oh, boy. I assume this will be teamwork and not glows in. I think 100% this is a teamwork quiz. I have nine. possible currencies or demonyms.

A demonym is a word that describes people from a particular place. So, Finn would be a demonym for people from Finland. Sydney cider is a demonym for people from Sydney. Oh. So what is it for Seattle? Seattleite. Nice. Yeah.

It's not as cool as like Liverpudlian. Liverpudlian. Novacastrian. Novacastrian, people from Newcastle. Novacastrian? Yeah, they get all the good one. Nancy. Right.

All right. Number one, you are working together. And you can get the quality of these questions from this first option. I'm scared. Vincentian. Vincentian. Is it a Portuguese coin featuring a depiction of Vincent of Saragossa, patron saint of Lisbon? Or a person who lives on the island of St. Vincent, which was named after Vincent of Saragosa.

Oh boy If St Vincent is like super old Like 1600 years old Then I totally believe that they would have named their currency after him There are a couple of currencies named after people Not many but there are a couple out there Do they still have Extinct currencies

I assume you have no opposition to using those in this quiz bill A lot of these currencies and demonims Are from lists of extinct countries and currency someday. Solid. Well, if you're from St. Vincent, you probably would say the saint would be in there. Maybe. Because that's the name of the country.

I'm a sainter. What do people from St. Louis call themselves? St. Lunatics. Oh, well, that's not helpful at all. I'm happy to go with currency then. I think currency... Let's just be bold. We're right. I feel like there's a lot of details.

You think this is a Portuguese coin featuring a depiction of Vincent of Saragosa, the patron saint of Lisbon. I'm so sorry this is a person who lives on the island of St. Vincent. It's a demonem. Okay. Why don't they build in the saint?

Christopher Columbus, the first European to reach the island, named it after St. Vincent of Saragosa, whose feast day was the day that Columbus saw the island of St. Vincent. He just looked at whose feast day it was and he named it like that. That's how they named Dominica. Yeah. Just because it was Sunday?

It's Sunday. It's Sunday. I think Christmas Island got the same. Same deal, didn't it? It's Christmas. All right. Question two. What is a stator? S-T-A-T-E-R.

Stata. Is it an ancient Greek coin made from Electrum and minted in the 8th century, BC? Or is it an archaic name for someone from the US popularized in periodicals of the early 1800s? That stator. were states by then, weren't they? A couple of them. I like the idea of it being a Demonym. My instincts want to say that it's

the American. It doesn't seem like a Greek word. I've been doing Greek on Duolingo for a couple of years now. I have not come across this one. All right. Let's go Finn. Let's go Deminim. Let's do it. Are you going Demonym? Yep. I'm so sorry.

The earliest known stamped stater is an election turtle coin. It's got a turtle on it. struck at Agena that dates to about 650 BC. Before that, they were ingots rather than coins, and they were also sometimes silver instead of electric. I'm so sorry. Oh, for two.

But don't worry, we have a third question that you could get right. What do you think of Derek? D-A-R-I-C, Derek. Is this a person from the short-lived Kingdom of Daria, from 1282 to 1302 or an accamended gold coin with a depiction of King Darius I first Flipper, coin, coin

The kingdom of Darya does not exist, I made it up Darius the first introduced a new thick gold coin which had a standard weight of 8.4 grams equal to the value of 20 silver coins. Wow. They stopped using these coins after Alexander's the Great Invasion in 330 B. where they were mostly melted down and re-coined as coins of Alexander.

Sure. We're on the board. Hey, you got a point. This is good. Next question. Edo. Sure. Okay.

Is this a large elliptoid coin that was issued in Japan in 1603? Or a demonym for those who live in Edo, a state in South, South Nigeria. Oh, okay. What is South? Not, yeah, not South. No, I got that. All right, so. Obviously, you hear, Ed.

This is a red herring. You think Japan, but Bill knows that we would know that. Yes. So you reckon we should go for the Finn? South, South, Nigeria. Yeah, South, South Nigeria. If you've made up South South Nigeria. Now, look, I do want to tell you that Japan famously has had for a long time,

specifically ovular coins, oval coins. Okay. And Edo became the capital of Japan in 1603. Yeah. And they issued no coins, especially not to people who lived in Edo in South, South Nigeria. It's a demonem. Hey! What a roller coaster ride.

South South is one of the six, it's one of these six geopolitical zones of Nigeria, uh, comprises six states, uh, Aquaibom Bay. Elsa, Cross River, Delta, Edo, and Rivers. Nice. All right, you ready for the next question? Yeah, we're back to 50-50. We can still do this. How are you doing at home, everybody?

What's your score? How many of these have you got as currenties and demons? Do you get expressed by 50-50s as we do? What is a gay header? Is a gay header, a resident of Gay Head Massachusetts? Okay. Or one of a series of misprinted one-penny coins from 1948. Oh, interesting.

Why would it be misprinted? It made the person on it too happy because I've got that strong image in my head. I definitely want to go the currency. I want to go flipper for this one. Yeah, I think coin. I like the misprint part. Wonderful.

I don't like that. Aquina is a town located on the western end of Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, that from 1870 to 1997 was called Gay Head. It was incorporated as Gayhead, and a gay header is a resident of Gayhead, Massachusetts. It was a descriptive name referring to the brilliant colours of the cliffs.

I was hoping that we can hear the story of the misprint. No, so I'm so sorry, there's been no misprint. All coins have been printed perfectly. Oh, whatever. Well, next question, you'll be fine. Don't even worry about it. You'll get it straight away. This is Argentius.

That's Argent, E-U-S-Argentius. E-U-S. Okay. Okay. Is this a coin? produced by the Roman Empire during Diocletian coinage reform? Or is it a demonem used to describe the Argentinian people that is found only in the 1826 constitution?

Oh, interesting. Oh boy. But I like the idea that it was like a temporary name. I can repeat the choices. Is it a coin produced by the Roman Empire during Diocletian coinage reform or a demonem used to describe the Argentinian people that is found only in the 1826 constitution. Problems, I want to tell myself to be confident and just go, yep, I know this, let's lock this in,

but I hate that person at Trivia who does that when they really don't. And they convince the rest of the team that it must be true. Peeing in the pool, that's what we call. If I were going to be that person, I would say, you can't fool me, Bill. I know that Diocletian hated coin reform, and he actually preserved the current form. I'm going to need a guess here.

It's a very simple question. I like the demonem. I like how I was kind of frozen in time for that one moment. We're going Finn. You're going for the demonim. Argentina, the constitution of Argentina was written in 1826. Sure. And it refers to them as Argentinians because the Argentius is a coin produced in the Roman Empire during the Diocletian coinage reform.

I'm swearing. Whatever. These are all fine. It's Finn. to take my first instinct and I am going to argue heavily against it next time. I am bad at this. The real joy of this was writing the fake

option. The fake answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Equale. That's Equeue. That's EQ-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-Quelele. Is this a member of the E-Quele tribe whose traditional lands comprise South West Chad and Northern Cameroon? or the currency of Equatorial Guinea from 1975 to 1985. Oh, I wish I was confident enough to know if Chad does border Cameroon.

Cameroon looks like a macabroon. They're pretty dang close to each other. I'm not good at knowing which one's border, which one specifically. But Cameroon is in like the dip sort of. Chad is in the middle there. So it's believable. it's believable However, because of this

I must argue strongly in favor of Equatorial Guinea Wait, which one's the fin, which one's the Which one's the coin, which one's the first? It is a demonin if it is a member of the tribe, the Equalet tribe from Chad and Cameroon. It's a flipper if it is the currency

of Equatorial Guinea. Yes, well I have no convictions whatsoever by virtue of the previous answers I must fight for Equatorial Guinea's coinage to see how my luck holds. I agree, Danny. Let's take, let's do currency, flipper. You think that the country, Equatorial Guinea just went, we'll just go with Equalua and make

that the currency. I don't, but I do now. Yeah, it was nominally divided into a hundred centimos, but they didn't issue any subdivisions of the currency. And all denominations depicted the first president, Francisco Matias Guema, on the obverse and allegorical motifs on the reverse. It is a currency. It is a flip-off.

I have to George Costanza this. Just do the opposite. You've got to just do the opposite. There's only two left. You're getting... Good job writing the other answer. Because you knew that we're good enough trivia that we would know. I thought you might know where Chad and Cameroon are.

They do touch. And also you might know that fun fact that like all the colonial divisions don't make any sense compared to tribal divisions. The most people are like, well, I'm not from this country. I'm from this tribe. Because it's like, you know, it's the north part of Kenya and the south part of Tanzania. That's where I'm from. All right. Well, let's say how you feel for this one then.

Bim. Bim. Okay. Bim. Me I am, Bim. Is it an 1860s term for a person from Barbados or a British coin from the age of sale that is equivalent to four pence? You get four bims for your work today. All right.

What are your instincts tell you? Bim kind of feels like either a bad word or a cute word. Interesting. Does it stand for something maybe? As soon as he said it, I thought that sounds like a coin, which means I have to go Barbados now. I have to go the demonem. It sounds like a little coin. I know.

Every fiber of my being says coin, but every fiber of my being has been wrong every time. Okay, okay, you're right. Let's George Costanza. Yeah, let's go with the opposite of what we think. We think it's a coin, but we're going to go with Demonym. Demonym. You're correct. It's from the 1860s, origin unknown.

This is messed up. But it is perhaps from the Ebo term, BEM, which means my home, my, or my household, or people. Because presumably, a lot of the people who were placed in Barbados were Nigerian, Ebo. Oh. BEM. BEM became BIM. and no one was ever paid anything on a British ship. If they asked for their pay, they'd be keel hauled.

All right. Final question, you're four out of eight. So this will determine pass fail. Oh, no. This is the ninth question. You've got to get this one right to win. If you get it wrong, we end the episode. All right, here we go.

Sukra. Oh, no. Sukra. S-U-C-R-E-S-U-R-E-S-U-R. Oh, I don't like this. Is it? Is it an Ecuadorian currency named after Latin American political leader Antonio Jose de Sucra? Or does it describe somebody from the city of Sucra,

named after Latin American political leader Antonio Jose de Sucra? Not French for sugar. I always thought it was that. Is it an Ecuadorian currency or somebody from Sucra? Sucra Bolivia, I assume. Yeah, so we're dealing with two countries. So you're saying if it's the currency, it's... It's Ecuador.

Ecuador. If it's the person, it's from Bolivia. All my instincts want to say coin, which means I feel I must fight it. Really? All my instinct says, you want to go to deminim. Oh, okay, so this is the first time that we've had anti-instincts from each other. It is also strange that the demonim would be just the same as the name of the city. That's an unusual one, which still makes it a fair pick. I'm going to need an answer here, guys. We're in a tight schedule. I think we have an internal coup and our team separate at this point.

Ooh, and we see who's right. And then one of us has to win. But we're choosing to go the opposite of our gut feeling. Yep. So I'll choose, I'll choose currency. And Danny chooses. I'll choose Devin. Well, look, I can tell you something about the currency.

Oh, no. It's going to be both, isn't it? Oh, is it both? That would be nice. I was thinking about that. It's not. One of you is a loser. Thanks.

There are 100 centavos to a decimo. There are 10 decimos to a sucra. It is the currency. Well, it was before the year 2000. It was the currency of Ecuador. Amazing work. It was replaced by the United States dollar due to a financial crisis. Your instincts were wronger than mine, so the opposite worked better for you.

People from Sukra, Danny, are Sukrenza. Oh, that's nice. I like that. I don't know how much they hit the E at the end. Well, there you go, that's my quiz. I have a couple of fun little currency facts as I was looking through old currencies to see what sounded even slightly like it could have been a demonym, such as did you know that in New France, the French colonies of Canada,

for a while in the 17th century, they were running out of currency. And so they started printing new fiat currency on place. playing cards on like they would just stamp and seal playing cards to give them out to people. And that would be official currency of New France. I love it. They would have to put a, they'd have to write a denomination on it. They'd put a seal, a serial number. They'd sign it.

And they would emboss a fleur-de-lis. And they'd be like, great, that's money now, I guess. And they just did it on playing cards. Cool. And then another fun one, tin animal money. Oh. Which was a form of currency believed to have been used by Royal Corps. in the Malay Peninsula from the 15th to the 18th centuries.

Often it was crocodiles, but they also had little tin tortoises, elephants, fish, crickets, beetles, chickens, goats, sheep, cow. And they just, they just traded little tin animals with each other as money. This is what the Beanie Baby people expected. Yes. Yeah, this is the Beanie Baby world that everyone wanted in the 90s. So there we are. Finns or flippers, Deminns or coins.

I hope you had fun with the ridiculous quiz that I think Karen won and Danny Yes, good job. I liked learning how bad my instincts were. Oh, my gosh. Woo. All right. So when Danny suggested the topic of fins and flippers, my first thought was something that our friend of the show,

our good friend, old friend, Steve, he collects something that's very unusual. So when I heard about flippers, I thought of pinball machines. Oh. That's a hard thing to collect. It is a hard thing to collect. One of his projects is he's restoring an old Jurassic Park pinball where the T-Rex head is worn out. So he's a 3D printing, a new head. Oh, my God.

It's really hard to imagine at one point in America in the 1930s and 40s that pinball machines were treated like a crime epidemic. Pinball machines were made out to be extremely dangerous. tools of the devil You got trouble my friends You got trouble right here What I'm picturing Seedy Degradation of Morals

I'm thinking more like guys and dolls You know with the prohibition For a long time They were deemed illegal And were banned in major cities Like until the 70s What is up with people just having like I'm watching children have fun

We have to put a stop to this Minigolf was like that too Yeah, anything that's like, kids are having fun. Ooh, there's guys with the mafia. That's not how I used to have fun. So I want to share two landmark, but also just hilarious pinball machine court cases or court hearings in America. This first case is what kind of set the war against pinball in motion. So 1935, Jacob Morowski.

He's a stationary and a candy store owner in the Bronx. and he had a pinball machine in his store, in his candy store, and he was charged with running a gambling operation by the police. Okay. Because the police said that pinball was a game of chance. Sure. It was essentially illegal gambling. It's important for me to describe what pinball machines look like at this time.

Yeah, I know they've changed a little bit. In the 30s and 40s, they're not in Jurassic Park with the T-Rex. would that be great LED the lights you know the flippers and the the multi ball whatever um in fact most of most of the machines didn't even have flippers flippers didn't even come in until like 20 years later so what were these machines they're just like coin operated pachinko machines where you have like a spring loaded ball launcher that you pull down and then a metal ball then goes flying up to the top of the game board and the board has all these pins like patterns of pins and nails, right? So then the ball would bounce around. You'll get rewarded a prize or maybe nothing if depending on where the balls land. So Jacob Morowski, the store owner, he was determined

to show the court that pinball was a game of skill. So in order to prove it, he asked the judge if he could assemble a super team of expert pinball players. And he called upon three men, quote, known to their friends as successful shooters. So imagine you got these hot shot gamers, essentially, in the courtroom, ready to show the police and the judge and a jury how it's done. They're going to stroll in. They're like, we're the experts, we're going to do it. Most gamers don't even get to dream of that day when the feds come in asking for their advice.

stroll in show them how it's done except they didn't and they failed miserably we don't know anything about these three dudes yeah sure maybe their friend is like oh yeah this guy's really good but who knows we don't know so the

New York Times printed this news article and it says with quotes pin game experts fail in court test and Jacob Rowski was found guilty I'm going to say Sounds like he was guilty.

I'm just saying. For having a gambling room. So this whole like, is it chance? Is it skill argument when on and on? Is it gambling? Is it not? City officials, police departments in different cities, they all couldn't agree. Until finally, Mayor LaGuardia, who might sound familiar, one of the New York City airports is named after him.

So Mayor LaGuardia finally put a ban in place. And this is 1942 in New York City. they banned all pinball machines and then all these other big cities followed to LA did it Chicago did it like these people were really angry at pinball machines you know they were like raiding

warehouses confiscating machines and throwing in the ocean let them sink to their deaths like I said earlier a lot of cities didn't unbanned the pinball machines well into the 70s and why the 70s because there was

a second landmark court event that happened in 1976. The American Association of New York started lobbying to overturn the pinball ban, and they wanted to prove again that the pinball is a game of skill, or it has become a game of skill, because by this point, gone are the days of those old machines, now we have flippers, now we have tracks, now we have lights, now we have electricity. And so a man, Roger Sharp, he's a pinball enthusiast, expert, researcher, author, was asked to play pinball in front of the entire city council to demonstrate that now this game is a skill game. He played the machine called Bankshot, and he didn't just play. He narrated, you know, like a Twitch streamer.

Yeah, nice. He was, like, explaining what he's doing, his strategies, showing kind of the controls of the, of the different parts, the flippers, you know, the launcher. And what really, what really sealed the deal was he was able to, we call it Babe Ruthing. Yeah, he's calling the shots. He's like, all right, just with a ball launcher, I'm going to make the ball go there. And he did it. Thanks to this moment, thanks to him, pinball was no longer considered gambling. And so the big cities started to lift the ban.

Quick closer to the segment, I did ask my friend Steve to share some wacky pinball machines. Oh, lovely. So there's a game called Orbiter 1. It's a space-themed pinball machine that has not a flat surface, but a textured board surface. Okay. So it curves, it has valleys and hills, and it's like 3D. It's meant to be the surface of Mars. It's extremely trippy to play because the balls don't move as you think they would move.

Yeah, tracking the straight line. lines that we divv and turn and that's so cool. Spin, there was Joust, which is a two-player pinball machine. It looks like a table, one person on one end, the other person on the other end. When I was a kid, there was a game, there was like a board game, which was like that, where it was four players, right? And you'd each have flippers like pinball flippers. Oh.

And between. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, between all four people. It's like anti-hungry, hungry hippos. because between all four people it came up in like a little hill right yeah like a little mound and you would be trying to knock balls away and they'd go up the hill and then roll into somebody else's area and at the end when all the balls were like in your catchment areas who ever had the least one so you're just protecting your catchment by knocking the balls towards the other people and it would go up the hill down into theirs and anyone they missed it is anti hungry hungry hippos it's just anti hungry hippos and it was four player pinball it was this four player I think so I have a I had to I have a lot I a two-player version of this because it was essentially like soccer. Yeah, no, this was a four-player. It was like a tower and there was a mesh net over the tower so the balls didn't fly out

at the kids' faces. Okay, that's fancier on mine. It was just knock them up the hill. It was so cool. I have no idea what it was called. Mine was meant to be like two-player sort of soccer against each other. You had little flippers. We always lost the ball so we would use Mentos instead because, oh my gosh.

That's amazing because then it's like the physics is all completely different then. You're playing a Mentos difficulty now. The other thing that I have never really known about pinball, any time you go into a pub or a bar or something, they've got a pinball there, it is always branded. It's always going to be, oh, this is Friends themed pinball.

Yes. Or something like that. How shady is the Pinball Street versus how endorsed officially. Oh, yeah. How much of this is real IP or just someone stuck Chandler's face? Yeah. So Steve shared this story about one of the collector pinballs is a game called Taxi.

The goal of the game is you have to pick up five passengers to get them all lit up, right? So there's Gorby, Pinbot, Dracula, Santa. All right, not who I was expecting, but the third. And the fifth character is Marilyn. And guess what? The Maryland in this game sure looks a lot like Marilyn Monroe. Uh-oh, there were legal problems with using the likeness of Marilyn Monroe.

So they had to change Marilyn in. to Lola, which is the same character, but with brown hair. But some of the Maryland machines were already out. I think they probably have to pay a hefty price for licensing. And I think the licensing brings people in. If you go to an American casino, it's insane. Like the slot machines, Ghostbusters, the Ellen Show, Willie Wonka, you know, all of them are like pretty much branded.

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I always do that. I always do that. Hey. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome back to the episode. This week, we got Bill and Danny from Escape This Podcast, and we're talking about things that are fins and flippers. Danny, you have our next segment.

All right. I didn't give it a fancy name. I feel terrible. We'll have to roll with it and people can send in their nominations. First of all, Karen, what do you call the things that you put on your feet to make you swim faster when you paddle? Oh.

Like the big thing, it looked like big duck feet. I think we call them flippers. Yeah, I, what we call them as well. But apparently that is, when you Google it, it was actually quite hard to Google, and it kept suggesting swim fins as the thing to include. Swimps. Swim fins. Which I had never heard before.

So I started. out on this rabbit hole, trying to learn a bit more about swimming additions. And maybe some people already know this. One of the big early flippers guys was Ben Franklin. Oh. Yeah. Really? He's a flipper man too? Very much so. This guy's doing everything. Yeah. No. Inventing a postmaster general flying a kite in a thunderstorm. I will come back to Ben Franklin for sure. Okay. It was one other bit of fun how the inventor of the modern flippers, he sold them during war time because they were really useful for dismantling underwater mines. But then after the war was over, no one was really interested. They went, well, this couldn't be used for fun. This was a serious

military tool. What would we want with them now? So it took a while for them to become an interesting thing. But after a bit of this, I realized I had some more Route 1 questions. I needed to go back a bit. What back then were people wearing while they were swimming? What were swimsuits like? Because Karen, way back in the beginning days of this show, I went back, so I was pretty sure this had happened. You talked a bit about the origins of the bikini. But I wanted to go a little bit before that. Do you have any idea? How far back can you go with what people were wearing?

I can picture people on the beach next to those big boxes where they have just gotten changed, wearing horizontally red and white striped, full one-piece kind of things that go down below their. knees and they're tight-fitting and then the women had the same thing but had a skirt built in. That's exactly where I'm picturing. Let's go back even further from that. Let's go ancient at the start. What are you

picturing that? Naked. Ancient people were always naked. They loved it, right? I think it depends on culture, but yeah, Greece. Every culture's the same. They all love being naked. Yeah, let's talk about this. So back in the ancient days, talking Greek and Rome, a little bit of Egypt,

others around there. Swimming was really a competitive sport exactly. It wasn't like at the ancient Olympics. To a lot of cultures, it was still considered healthy and kind of an important part of being a warrior. So you could do it for leisure, you could splash around a bit, or you could seriously train. There were rivers, like ancient Rome, you could swim in the tiber, and there were bathhouses to splash around in. Julius Caesar was regarded as being a pretty strong swimmer. They said splasher, a really strong swimmer. I was like, oh, okay. That's nice.

A lot of our proof for how swimming went down back then, especially about what they wore is from the artwork that we're finding. We see all of the paintings on vases and things like that. Were they naked on those? Absolutely. A lot of the time. Okay. But not necessarily.

But it's cold. It's cold in the water. Oh, it could be. So sometimes it was for modesty. Sometimes they had modesty back then. Okay. Crazy. Wild.

Who to thunk it? But also for practicality, you would see some loincloth-style things going around. And you'll see a lot of the women wearing things quite like bikinis. So it took us a couple of thousand years to get back. But what we ended up with was a bit of a recreation. The women had bottoms on that looked sort of like briefs or like modern underwear things. And bando tops, just the strapless square tops. Bando.

Then after that, we've got a bit of skipping forward to do. to the 13th to 15th centuries, the teenies, the teen centuries. Yep, yep. This is when the church started becoming quite unhappy with a lot of indoor bathing and swimming. Gender segregation was already often a thing, but it varied a lot. In Turkey at this point, there was a lot of naked swimming going on, and it wasn't separated by sex or by status. So you could have young women bathing. with clergymen oh goodness and so it turned out the church did not want that to keep going on

they banned indoor swimming and bathing so you had to be outdoors and as you mentioned the cold what do you think that meant people did in winter i would say not swim they did not swim or bathe at all for the entirety of winter and then we had a plague as time went on yeah this frowning upon swimming, it kept spreading. And throughout these teeny centuries, nudity became much more scandalous. Some people believe that the only hobbies that you should have were the ones that expanded your mind, not those disgusting outdoor activities, but then some upper classmen still considered it a noble skill, so they uniquely were allowed to keep doing it.

There are a lot of mixed messages when it comes to swimming throughout history I've found. Sorry, are you implying that the historical church could have some hypocrisy in it? Slowly the rich people, they started winning, and swimming became, it started to get its reputation back as more of a fun, healthy pursuit. And one of the famous figures who had a very big hand in this, good old Benjamin Franklin. Benny Franks. He was a swimming teacher. He wrote a tree ties on it. No, that man.

He said that it was not only clear. clean and good for your health, but it was also the mark of a hero because you could save someone from drowning. Yeah. So it looks like after that was when the more structured swimming pool experience started forming. And like in America, pools were built in all the major cities, separate areas for laps or for just chilling.

Still, very much separated by sex. They weren't that wild. Interestingly, one of the things that changed about swimsuits at this point was don't wear anything that clings to your body too much so that you can't see the shape of your body. So they had to wear huge, heavy clothes. So just like swimming in a big nightgown. Oh, I've got some descriptions. I can skip ahead. So this is 1800s. I'll give you this quote. Full length sleeves and ankle length pantalettes covered by a twin layered ruffled skirt. Accessories included a wide-brimmed straw hat, bathing shoes of

canvas and black stockings. It was not unusual that 12 yards of material were required to construct this garment. What's the point of swimming? You're like going to sing. One word thing. Yeah. And so, yeah, if someone decided to go swimming in the ocean, these clothes were a real pain. So often they would just do a furtive look around and go, no one's watching me. I'll just strip down and be naked again. Remember the good old naked days? But what happened then? Peeping Tom started going to the beach. And just we had real people hiding in bushes spying on people who were stripping tombs ruin everything. So people wanted to swim in the sea but they didn't want people to see them naked, but they still really wanted to be naked. So Bill, at the start, you mentioned something

about little boxes to get changed in. Yeah. Like on Brighton Beach. Brighton. Yes, that's exactly what I think of. Yeah, yeah. It's not quite that. But around this point, enter the bathing machine. Now, it looks sort of like an outhouse or a porter potty, but on wheels. And if you're rich, your coachman would steer it down to the beach with his horse with you inside all the way into the ocean. Then once it was submerged enough, you opened the door and you were instantly in the ocean covered up by enough water that nobody could see you naked. Because you still didn't want to be, you still didn't want to wear any kind of bathing out. So you wanted to be naked. So you had to get something that got you all the way into the

Water, so you are underwater and therefore unseen. That's hilarious. I don't know if you remember this as a point that came from your episode on the bikini. Do you remember what measurement they said could determine whether something was a true bikini or not? It was if it slipped through a wedding ring. Nice. Absolutely. That's so scandalous.

It's good marketing. There was one Englishman in the early 1800s, J-F. Frost, who advocated that people should wear a light calico suit. Easy enough to swim in, but it would still preserve your modesty. And he wanted it to be so light that it could be carried within your handkerchief. Whoa. Oh, that's pretty light. Hmm.

So swimming, still gaining its popularity through the 1800s. There were laws limiting where and when you were allowed to change into your swimming clothes. Couldn't be too close to town, not between sunrise and sundown. So swimming costumes, there was a lot of variety in, like, the adaptations needed for swimming suits, it became more of a thing that companies knew that there was going to be a niche for. Mainly for women, men sort of seemed like they went straight from naked to the striped pajama thing.

They had belts, though. They always had belts for a while on those things. But for women through the 1800s, the balancing act of practicality and modesty was a wild time. And it took decades for practicality to win. But gradually, they got pants underneath their dresses. Yeah, eventually sort of a baggy one-piece suit thing with the skirt sort of built into it. Always black or navy blue because you know what happens to those light colours if they get wet.

And then eventually things just started, started shortening, shorter sleeves, pants that hover around the knee. They also for a while included corsets because the narrow wasted look had just become so normalized. You needed it even while you were swimming. Karen, how often did you just get tired of people existing? come on let people swim all right so we finally hit the early 1900s we're getting there and now the distinction between proper swimming and just bathing was becoming more pronounced the difference there and women's swimsuits began to follow this people weren't crazy about women being athletes exactly but it was still allowed I guess the Olympics might have women or whatever but it was

you had some good recommendations now, like keep your shoulders free so that they can move. Don't wear a corset because we don't want to interfere with your breathing, but it was still illegal to be on the beach in your swimming bloomers without a skirt on. Not a popular law apparently because literally thousands of women were arrested every summer. No way. They're arresting people. Oh, yeah. They would measure. They would go around measuring like people's sleeve lengths and things like that. It was actually an Australian woman. Annette Kellerman who had a very famous court case relating to this, and that sort of made famous, the one-piece swimsuit.

At the time, it was sort of like a panced, leotard situation, but she made sense with that. Some people were opposed to it because it meant that women, well, if they had to show off their body that much, if something clung to them that much, well, what about their body image? You'd have to be in good shape for that, and that would make everyone else feel bad about themselves,

which, okay, that was actually irrelevant point. That's fair enough. These were all sorts of questions for a while, but then, bam, 1920s hits. We got Jazz Age, we've got bare knees, we've got scandalous movies everywhere. And also notably one national contest held in Atlantic City, which was like looking at bathing beauties. It was the first ever Miss America pageant. They had the swimsuit competition and suddenly people were interested. It turned out for some weird reason, seeing all of these women in their bathing suits got a lot of attention and made them a lot of money or something.

I don't know. So by the 30s, we had backless, pantsless, skirtless things. Interestingly, we still had a male requirement in some places. Men were required to wear a shirt because people didn't like hairy chests. They thought that that was gross and gorilla-like. Disgusting. But then we got the invention of rayon, the invention of zippers, all sorts of things that moved swimwear slowly towards what it is now. And then, of course, World War II meant material shortages.

So wearing skimpy clothing was actually great because it didn't use up as much fabric. For the country! Are you swimming naked? It is my patriotic duty. By the 40s, most places had given up on trying to have any legal restrictions anymore. In the 50s, there was a company that tried to make, modify it. paper bathing suits that could be sold from dispenser machines. I don't know why that never caught on. And then in the 60s and 70s, it actually, they pushed it even sort of almost

further than what we've got now. They tried full on topless bathing suits for women. I've read about that. Nudism was becoming more of a thing. We had all of these free movements. It was a bit too scandalous for some, so it eventually got paired back a little bit. But it did lead to things like the separation of your regular beaches versus your topless beaches and nudist areas and all of that sort of fun and then dot dot dot we've got what we've got today all of our varying styles and that's what i got do you have a good name for that flipper i hardly knew her book club club on monday Jim on Tuesday

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I exams provided by independent optometrists All right, I have our last segment. I talked about flippers and pinball. And so for this last segment, I got a quiz, a write-down quiz about famous fins. Oh, okay. Famous aquatic animals, grab bag quiz. And yes, this is a write-down.

Danny versus Bill. Right. My favorite. Here we go. Number one. It's original. Italian name translates to the terrible dogfish, but the 1940 Disney adaptation gave this villain what name?

Oh, no. Its original Italian name translates to the terrible dogfish, but the 1940 Disney adaptation gave this villain what name? I got it, maybe. Oh, no. I'm either wrong or right, and if I'm right, I got nothing. I'm trying to think, okay, dog like cana, terrible, like a dinosaur, and fish like Piscian. Those three things together, don't give me anything.

Tyrannocano-Picies. Exactly. That's where I'm at. Put it down. Could be right. I'll give you an extra hit. The original Italian name translates to the terrible dogfish because in the original Italian version, it was kind of a shark creature. But in the 1940s Disney adaptation, it's more of a waley creature. What? As someone who has this answer correct, I disapproves of all hints. Isn't that the case?

All right. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense. Answers up, please. Yeah, yeah. Danny put Monstro and Bill put Monstro. Correct. It is Monster. Okay, I guess Monster does sound kind of terrible.

The whale in the Disney Pinocchio movie, in the original Italian book version, the written story version, the original villain was called The Terrible Dogfish. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Good job. I mean, that was kind of like a two-party. You had to figure out it was Pinocchio. Then you have to remember what the name was. The Disney psyched me out hard in terms of getting away from seeking. creatures, I went straight to Disney villains with interesting names, Maleficent, that's not it, and then I froze.

But the art in Pinocchio is all beautiful, but monster when it appears it's just like, oh my it's scary. God, what is happening? It's so well-buck. If you're not freaked out by the donkey, Transformerone. Yeah, you're freaked out by that dogfish. Number two,

in what fictional universe can you find flying fish called cheap cheeps? Again, In what fictional universe can you find flying fish called Cheap Cheeps? You're writing a lot, Bill. All right. Answers up.

Ooh, Danny put Mushroom Kingdom. Bill put Mario. Correct. It is the Mushroom Kingdom slash Mario universe. Good job. Number three, I'm going to make it harder. Oh, no. What can you find in Chapter 4 of Through the Looking?

glass. Okay. What can you find? I can see it on my shelf right now. In chapter four of Through the Looking Glass. I think I have the wrong, I have an answer that I think is the wrong answers. I'm going to keep it up until I can think of something better. But if you're done, Danny, I'll have to show my answer.

All right. I got something. Let's find out. Answers up. All right. Bill said, a mock turtle and Danny put

walrus it is the poem walrus and the carpenter because tweedley and tweedled dumb appear in the first book they don't appear in Alice in Wonderland they only appear in the looking glass that was my follow-up bonus question

is who recites it and it's tweedle-D and tweedle-dum it's like kind of a book within a book situation next question the Selke is a mythical creature from Celtic and Norse mythology that can shapeship between

human and what animal. The Selke, S-E-L-K-I-E, is a mythical creature from Celtic and Norse mythology that can shape-shift between human and what animal. I always forget which mythical animal

is which. All right. Answers. You drawing again? Danny puts seal, Bill put seal. And Bill drew a picture of... It's not a seal?

It's a lady. They take off their skin. They take off their whole seal skin. And they pile it up on the beach and then they walk along as a sexy naked lady. I'm so interested in this whole sub-genre of fairy tales where people turn into animals or vice versa by wearing the hide or the skin. And there's always stories about, oh, and then like the prince told her to, you know, told them to burn the skin while they go to sleep. Yeah, yeah. Forever. All right. Here we go. Here's my Australian question. In the current clubs of the

AFL, Australian Football League. It's the grand final today, apparently. Oh, is it? Yep. Okay. Good, good, good. Good timing. All right. Sydney is the only team to be named with an aquatic adjacent animal. Sure. Sydney swans. Yeah. How many other bird teams are there? Oh no Okay You know what I'll tell you

There are four other Bertie Oh I can name them Okay I've got three I've got three Oh Of course Got him got four

Got four Hold on hold on Hold on I'm right Are you putting the places I've put a letter For the places There's a three obvious ones

Lions can't fly You got the one That would make Your family ashamed If you missed it Yeah yeah yeah I got that How aerial is a plane

because we do have a team called the Bombers. There are four distinct birds. Hold on, okay. I'll go through my three and Danny can finish what the last one is. Yeah, yeah, shall we? Okay. I've written down, the grows. Adelaide grows.

You have the Collingwood magpies, obviously. Yes, that is our household team. My mother would kill me if I didn't put the pies. The pies. And what if I put third? The hawthorn hawks. Yep, makes perfect sense. What am I missing?

What's the last one? You need to go further away from Sydney. Further away. We're going out to Perth. There's the dockers in Fremantle and the West Coast Eagles. Oh, the West Coast Eagles. I'm an idiot.

Good job, Danny. So we asked swans, crows, magpies, Eagles, hawks. Next question. What is the more common name for what is essentially a mermaid goat? Or goat mermaid.

Obviously, like, not a real thing, right? There's no real animal that's a mermaid goat, right? No, no. Fictional, fictional. What is the more common name for what is essentially a goat mermaid? I know a horse mermaid.

That's the one that I think I'm stuck on. What is a horse mermaid? A hippocampus. Oh, yes, yes. I'm ready when you are, Danny. Oh, yeah. I just put one that I think is also a similarly name to one we've done earlier, but I think it's also a mythical creature,

but I never know what it is. So who knows, maybe it's this. I can't remember root words for goats. Okay, all right, here we go. Oh, okay, so Danny has put kelpie. That's just a wet horse. And then Bill put go to campus. Is it a go to campus?

Capricorn and that sort of thing. Capricanus. Capricorn. It is Capricorn. It's just a Capricorn. Oh, Capricorn is like a goat mermaid. It is a goat mermaid. It is a goat mermaid.

It is a goat mermaid. All those star signs are real wet. And that's just a wet goat. I could have got that, but instead I wrote Go to Campus. An Ares is an actual... Just a goat goat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next question.

Who made a splash predicting the 2010 World Cup matches? Oh, no. I need the name. Oh, no. Who made a splash predicting the 2010 World Cup matches? I have no idea. Cross the rainbow bridge. This is not a fictional.

This is a real octopus. What was his name? I had no idea what his name was. I thought how did Jay? I written Gunther or Greg? I called him Benny the octopus. It is Paul. Oh, I always live with a pay name.

Last question. Dare I say, I think this is a pretty, good trivia question. So one of the most famous film scores goes to John Williams' simple, but a haunting theme for Jaws for Jaws. What instrument is that iconic theme performed on? Hmm. Now I know in high school, I played it on the tennis saxophone and it was not meant to be on

tennis saxophone. So your classic, da, da, da, da, da, what instrument is playing that? It's a musical instrument. Danny doesn't think it's a sex. Too jazzy or too sexy. No, that is a very good question. I haven't listened to it closely enough to even be able to identify like what department of the orchestra.

Yeah. We got the notes, but not the timbre. Yeah, sure. I'm not in love with my guess, but... Here we go. Answers up. Danny has put cello. I was thinking cello.

And Bill has put bassoon. Very good. Very deep. If it's an oboe, I'm going to be cute. It is the tuba. Oh, it's a tuba. Really? What are you doing, John?

So we're both in the wrong. We were in the wrong sections. Yeah. Tennis saxophone would have been closer still. I know. That's why I was like, I thought maybe you'd be close with the brass. Yeah. It's so deep.

Oh, bassoon is a very... He's going to call me up. Is he live? He's going to call me up and he's going to say... Yes. He's going to say, hey, God, you're so... I should have done a bassoon, man. You're so right.

I was young. I don't know what to tell you. If I was doing it now, I'd put in a bassoon, obviously. I wonder how much... He did a lot of very famous work 50 years ago. How much do you reckon John Williams does look back and criticize himself and think of ways he could have done better

in the way that all artists do? No. I reckon he's, I like he loves it. I think he looks back and he listens to like, he's like, oh, man, I'm so good. That was wonderful. Well, that's her show. Danny and Bill, please, where can people find you?

What are some of the stuff you've been working on? Yeah, look, if you want to listen to us, have guests come on and play through audio escape rooms designed by mostly Danny. Go and check out Escape this podcast. There's an episode with Good Job Brain Too. You can listen to them playing in audio escape and play in mini golf got mentioned on this episode. If it made the cut and if it didn't, it was and you missed it.

It was their best bit. So there's plenty of fun to check out lots of fun guests playing through escape rooms. If you're into escape rooms, you will love it. If you're not into escape rooms, it is an amazing introduction into the world of escape rooms and hearing how they play. So check out Escape this podcast. You can also check out Solve This Murder, which is a show that we do where we have murder mysteries.

One of us will create a full Agatha Christie style whodunit, murder mystery, and the other has to be the detective and try and solve it. And if you love video games, Danny and I are part of the writing and development team for Rise of the Golden Idol. The demo is out now on Steam. You should play it, and if you like it,

you can go back and play the original, which we had nothing to do with, but we're huge fans of. It's looking really cool. It's a very good game. happy you guys are working on the sequel. People who haven't played a golden idol game, it's detective work and murder mysteries

done basically via madlibs. It's a lot of blank, blank to the blank in the blank, and then blank to the blank. Yeah, it's really fun. We were such huge fans of the first one, so if we had to be part of the development team for the second one, we really loved. And so we're very proud of how it's turned out

and check it out when it comes out. That's amazing. I had no idea. Oh, really? I just played the first one. Oh, yeah. Just played, because I bought it from the summer sale. I was blown away.

I wouldn't say I was the best at it. I was like, I was missing some key details. There's something about, yeah, the format, and it was, like, so digestible. And then the art style is, like, so unique and so true. Yeah, the whole thing. The artists instead of working on it, something special. And, yeah, sequel is coming out soon before the end of the year. Wow.

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