Good Job, Brain! - 298: The Clothes Off Our Backs

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Trivia... but make it fashion. Chris struts down the red carpet with his quiz about memorable Met Gala outfits. Colin looks back at some of the weird and holy-crap clothing professions of yesteryear. Help! Karen's wearing too many hats! A lightning round about fashionable animal logos, and can you find the connection in a mystery quiz? For advertising inquiries, please contact [e-mail]! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Good day and good morrow, good-hearted and good-willed, good fellas, and good-duckins. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and Offbeat Trivia podcast. This is episode 298, and of course, I am your humble host. Karen, and we are your landlubbers and odd jobbers slobbering for blabber, jabber, and yabber. I am Colin. And I'm Chris. Woo-hoo. Just like you two, I also got back from Europe,

and I am very jet-lagged. Like you just got back. Show must go on. Road to 300, everybody. We're at 298. We're almost there. Can taste the 300. It tastes like not knowing when stop. No one's told us to stop yet, Chris. I just assumed at some point in the future,

someone's going to say, okay, it's time to knock it off. Yeah. No. Well, I got a surprise for you guys. Oh, boy. These trivia cards I have. Well, without further ado, let's jump in to our first general trivia segment. Whoa.

Hold the show. I thought we disabled that thing. It's a smart doorbell. Let me just pop over Hello Oh my goodness Julio Trujillo Denver Trivia League's own trivia master

and winner of the trivia game show The Chase from 2021 Well you would know you were there Hello Julio, it's been a long time It has been, hello How is everyone doing? Good to see you Yeah, good to see you too

I saw you in D.C. last, I believe. We were taken in the in the quiz bowl together. We did very mediocrely on the quiz bowl. It was great, yes. We were middle of the road, middle of the pack. I felt great about that. I know. Yeah, we were tied for second

at one very early point. Yes, I think so, yeah. At one point, we were sitting there and Karen was just like, guys, there's two people from the chase at the table next to us. And I said, Karen, there's two people from

the chase at our table. And she said, no, Chase Er. And I'm like, oh, God. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, we last saw each other all at Sporkel Khan a couple of years ago. Julio, how have you been? Well, you know, I heard that you guys are about to show at your 300th episode. And I wanted to say hello and congratulations you on a wonderful accomplice group.

Wow, thanks. Well, good timing, Julio. Why don't you come in and join us? we're just about to do our first trivia segment. I assume you have a buzzer with you. I mean, as most people do just out on the street, right? Yeah, oh, great, great. Of course, you know, I own a trivia company in Denver, you know,

where would I be without my handy buzzer? Wow, he's buzzer ready. Well, without further ado, let's jump into our first journal trivia segment, Pop Quiz, Hot Shot, with our friend here, Julio, who's visiting us at the Good Shop Braint House. After ringing the good job brain doorbell and opening the good job brain door. All right. Here's the surprise, guys. Look at this.

Oh. I got cards up the wazoo. Usually I just pick one random Trivial Pursuit game card. But today we're switching it up. We got a lot of versions and you guys get to pick. I got Trivial Pursuit, Pop Culture 2. Trivial Pursuit, R&R Singles, Trivial Pursuit, 90s Edition. Trivial Pursuit, Totally 80s edition, Trivial Pursuit, Entertainment Singles, and our favorite

Trivial Pursuit, Baby Boomer. Is, is R&R. So I spent like 10 minutes trying to look up what R&R meant and what kind of game it was. I think it's like R&R as in like resting. Yeah. Leisure. It's leisure. Rest and relaxation.

So the game itself. it's just these R&R cards and they live in a box that's a wedge shape and you're supposed there's no game board so I think it's like you just play it on the go by yourself okay okay you just sort of sitting around the table you know with your friends okay all right I vote 80s Chris we got 80s we're calling what do you want R and R and R. Yeah and then we got pop culture 90s entertainment singles and baby boomer I'll do let's do pop culture I think that's all right pop culture it is here we go buzzers at the ready totally 80s first blue edge tv what four foot 11 actress played rosy the waitress in numerous bounty ads oh my gosh oh man yeah what is her name it's it's it's it's i got nothing i've had her in a quiz before i feel so sorry i have i have to apologize her i feel i'm not even sure enough to buzz i feel i'm not even sure enough to buzz i feel it's and something. Am I close?

It is. Nancy Walker. Oh, my gosh. Nancy Walker. Nancy Walker. The quicker picker-or-upper. It was on our cleaning episode, Colin. I remember that quiz. You asked for 80s. Yeah.

You got 80s. 80s is what, 40 years ago? Here we go. Pink Wedge. What soprano did Andrew Lloyd Weber divorce his first wife to marry? Yes, come on, Chris, I know you know it. Meadow Soprano. No, Sarah Brightman.

Sarah Brightman. Yellow Edge. What half Croatian, half-Sloven leader bit the dust in 1980 after holding Yugoslavia together for more than three decades. Oh, fight and ring, Julio. Tito? Is his name Tito? It is Tito. Yes.

Full name? Joseph. Unnecessary. Joseph Rose Tito. Purple Wedge for Music. What musical was advertised with images of the waif cosette posed before a fluttering flag? One day more. Oh, Chris.

Less miserable. Le Miz. Le Miserables. All right. A lime green wedge. Who voiced his last film lines in the 1988 short, the nine. Night of the Living Duck. 19.

Oh, Julio. Mel Blanc. Mel Blanc. I think it's a blank. I think it's blank. Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, etc. I assume it's Daffy Duck because it's Night of the Living Duck.

Safe guest, yeah. All right. Last Wedge in totally 80. Sports and Leisure, What team won the 1987 Super Bowl with a defense known as the big blue wrecking crew? Oh, Colin.

Is that the New York Giants? Correct. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, thank you. Sports guy always delivers. Yeah, sometimes always. And then, Chris, you got R&R, right? Yeah, let's do it. All right. The mystery R&R round.

Mystery R&R round chosen by Chris, here we go. I'm just going to say the color of the category because I don't know what they stand for. Okay. Blue Wedge, what Oscar of Sports Awards? is given to the Outstanding U.S. Amateur Athlete. Hmm. Oscar of Sports Awards is given to the outstanding U.S. Amateur Athlete. I don't know.

I don't know. This is some sort of a pan sport award. Have you heard of this one, Karen? Have you heard of it? No. Okay. Interesting. Is it the something ease or is it?

No, it's like a person's name award. Oh. Oh, I don't know. Okay. Couldn't tell you. It's the Sullivan, Sullivan Award. Really? Huh.

All right. A pale pink wedge. What Cajun Word for a really good time names a music festival in Manchester, Tennessee? Oh, my gosh. We just got a question about it. Julio. It's a O Bon Tom? No.

No, no, not that. Cajun word for a really good time. Is it a hoot-nanny? Oh, you're close. Oh, really? Okay. Guys, it is Bonaroo. Oh.

Okay, all right. I get it, I get it. I did not know that was a Cajun word. I guess that's Bonn, like, good. It has Bonn, exactly. Yeah, I can see it. I can see it, yeah. Okay, Yellow Edge.

What kind of gummy candy is called pastel Fiskar in Stockholm? Uh, oh. Oh, Julio. That would be the Swedish fish, I think, right? British fish. Our favorite type of candy is from Sweden. Purple Wedge. What cartoon characters Kraft Mac and Cheese dinner was 2002's Biggest Cellar? Oh.

Oh, 2000. Oh, geez. So, I mean, yeah, they do a lot of these Kraft Mac and Cheese that are sponsored. I'm going to guess SpongeBob SquarePants. Yes. They still have it. The memes, man. Mm-hmm. He's also a good shape for a mac and cheese.

You know what I mean? He's just got all the nooks and crannies or rectangle. And then Patrick is like a nice name. Yeah, yeah, good surface area. Next question, Green Wedge. What Steel Titan once owned Schiebo Castle in Scotland where Madonna said I do? Colin. I mean, I just hear Steel Titan.

I'm going to guess Andrew Carnegie. Yes, it is. Okay. Carnegie. All right. All right. If it was like the other steel titan, you know, great, I'll take that chance. But it was the other steel titan.

Exactly. Exactly. Well, it was on a learnedly question today. Oh. Well, you tell me then, Karen, who was the other steel titan? Ah, J.P. Morgan. Okay. All right.

He merged all of the steel together. So he's not really a steel person. He's the finance person. Why would he merge all of his steel together? All right. Last question on this mysterious R&R singles Trivial Pursue game. Last Wedge, Orange Wedge. What is the world's largest hotel chain with 4,000 hotels in 80 countries?

Oh, boy. I don't know if this is true or not anymore. Right, right, right. Well, I mean, you know, we got to go based on the card. Go for it. Is it, was it Hilton? Incorrect. Okay.

Chris. Marriott. Incorrect. Ooh. I'll guess, is it Best Western? It is Best Western. Wow. At one time, it was Best Western.

So our last card, Julio's pick. This is Pop Culture 2. We love pop culture. Here we go. Last card. Blue Wedge for TV. What is Dr. Turk's first name on Scrubs? Oh, man.

I'm going to get in trouble. I know this. Is it Chris? It's Christopher. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Correct. Pink Wedge. or fad, what food chain switching to all machine-made goods served its last hand-twisted

cruller in 2003? Whoa. Chris? I mean, I guess Dunkin' Donuts? It's Dunkin' Donuts. It's Dunkin' Donuts. So 2002, you could have gotten some SpongeBob Mac and Cheese and followed that up with a hand-twisted Dunkin' Donuts.

Yellow Edge for Buzz. Who threatened legal action in 2002 after a hot. hot sauce label pictured her with ice skates in one hand and a hubcap in the other. Chris? Tanya Harding has to be. It is Tanya Harding. Purple for music. What metal band lost much of its luster after getting 300,000 fans kicked off Napster?

Oh. Oh, yes. Julio. That was Metallica. Metallica. Yeah. Lust its luster. Yeah, a little tip there.

Oh, I see. Green Retro movie, What film introduced the Yamika wearing action hero Mordecai Jefferson Carver? Yes. It's alliterative. Yeah. What film introduced the Yamika wearing action hero Mordecai Jefferson Carver? I know.

I know I've heard of this, but I can't recall it. A.k.a. the Hebrew hammer. Hebrew hammer. Hebrew hammer. Yep. Of course. All right. Last question on this card. Sports and games. Who was the first golfer to win 50 PGA tour titles by the age of 30? Colin? 50 by the age of 30, Tiger Woods. Correct. R and our singles. All right. Okay. Some good, I feel rested. I feel relaxed. I feel loose. Yeah. These R&R cards are designed for this. I don't want to play the board game. No, it's very smart.

I mean, I don't want to play Trivial Pursuit. I want to have fun. In a very real way, it's kind of the germ of good job brain, right? Well, Julio, you are a trivia master, the Denver Trivia League. In your opinion, as Quizmaster, what are some of your pet peeves at Pub trivia? What don't you appreciate? What's not your favorite? gosh.

Give us the T. There definitely are the people that like to argue. And now with AI, oh no. They're finding AI answers that aren't correct. But they'll be like, I just put this in the chat, TBT,

and they said, blah, blah, blah. Oh, my God. Well, that's not really correct. Because I think when people Google now, it's the AI comes really quickly. That's what comes up first. Right, yeah. Exactly.

That's not even necessarily right. That's kind of annoying. Oh, I never thought about that. It's like. Well, that wasn't different. problem when we were doing a lot of pub trivia we kind of there's an unspoken rule where the quiz quiz master is always right yeah whatever the quiz master says that's what counts on the points that's even if they're wrong well we had the thing once where um the answer was uh melanin and then um

the quiz master is like and it's melanin she's like or melatonin yeah yeah it's not quite the um actually. It's more than, hey, hold on. Don't also accept this other answer. Right. This other wrong answer. I've done the right one. Well, what's your favorite part of Pub trivia then as a quiz master Julio? To me, I think the

community, I really love seeing like the regulars and we do a lot of actually we do fundraisers for our trivia. So we had like, you donate $5 to nonprofit that we have every month and we get two bonus points. Cool. Well, the other thing that you might not know about Julio is, well,

he was on Jeopardy and he was on the chase. And this leads to this week's topic. Coincidentally, I had a feeling that you're going to show up at our house. And so I was thinking about this. When Julio was on Jeopardy, the wardrobe people put him in a sweater vest. A gray sweater vest. Dapper sweater vest. Because, you know, sweater vest equals smart people.

And so when it was time for us to do the chase, to film the chase, the wardrobe department was not happy. with what Julio brought and then gave him a gray sweater vest to wear it on the chase. So he's on both shows where the wardrobe people are like, you know what? You need a gray sweater vest. It's true. Yes. So that inspired this week's topic. I thought we could talk about clothes, fun facts, trivia quizzes about fashion.

So this week, we're giving you the clothes off our backs. I don't know if we've talked about it. Have we talked about this yet on the show? The fact that the entire, the nation's children have been taken over by K-pop demon hunters. Yes. It's taken over my family. Oh, gosh.

Went to a school fundraiser the other night. They were like food trucks and, you know, you buy everything you buy, a dollar goes to the education foundation or whatever. And they're like, oh, we're going to set up karaoke, you know, for the kids. And they set up a little karaoke area. And the first, like, 90 minutes of this event is just different subsets in groups of kids just doing K-pop deep others. Right, right.

You heard soda pop 12 times. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Literally, Regina and are looking at each other like, this is the third time they've done soda pop since we have been here. I think they put a moratorium on it because there was a point at which after a certain point of the night there were no more K-pop

500 songs at all and everything prior to that had been only K-pop Stephen Hunters. Chris, I am not exaggerating just to interject here when I tell you that as I left the house to come record this podcast in my back shed

my daughter and wife were literally doing home karaoke to K-pop Demon Hunter's songs. Which song? You can't even get away from it. It's take down as I walked out the door. Yes. Incredible.

When you mentioned the topic and there's that line in K-pop Demon Hunter is that quick cutaway gag where they say that one of them, oh, who else could show up to the Metcala wearing a sleeping bag? Then they cut to her at the Met Gala wearing a sleeping bag, you know, dress. So the Met Gala is actually technically,

if you want to get technical, was called the the costume institute benefit for the the metropolitan museum of art they have their costume institute it's one of those things where it's like everybody who wants to be seen is seen there work with fashion designers things like that to put together very very elaborate very very beautiful outfits that you know of course are endlessly scrutinized and photographed on the on the red carpet right each year there's a theme because it goes along with the exhibition and also it's organized by the fashion magazine, Vogue. I worked for Condé and asked for a while.

I was never invited. But, you know, that's neither here nor there, I suppose. You were technically co-workers with Anna Wintor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She became the sort of editorial director across everything. So I dialed into like a conference call with her at one point. Whoa. She's retiring this year, I believe, actually.

Yeah, I saw that. She cast on the torch. I have a quiz about Met Gala outfits that. either went viral or were controversial or particularly stand out. Interesting. All right. I like it. Question number one. This is a buzz in quiz. So get those buzzers ready.

All right. Fresh off the release of her song, Dark Lady, this singer, appeared to be wearing nothing but a few strategically placed feathers in 1974. Julio. The Dark Lady has to be shared. It is Cher.

Oh, it was going to share, and it is in fact shared. It was a clever, quote-unquote, naked illusion dress designed by Cher's friend, Bob Mackie. Yes, all right. These two daughters of famous musicians, one an actress, one a fashion designer, showed up the 1999 Met Gala in Modified Haynes Tank Tops reading Rock Royalty. Uh, Colin. Uh, Karen, maybe we can tag team this. Are these the McCartney daughters? Um, uh, Stella McCartney and I don't know who the other one would be.

So I'll, sorry, I may have been a little bit vague. They are daughters of famous musicians. Mm, I see. They are not, they're not siblings. Gotcha, gotcha, okay, gotcha. Gotcha. They are friends. Okay, all right.

One of them is a well-known actress. The other one is a fashion designer. And they were very popular in 1999. One of them is indeed Stella McCartney. Oh, all right. The other. Who's Stella's friend? Oh, Liv Tyler.

It was Liv Tyler. There you go. Camarison. All right. Stella McCartney had acquired those Haynes tank tops the morning of the MetGallon. He spent the day putting together the out. So DIY. In 2013.

she wore a floral print dress with built-in gloves, attending the gala while pregnant with her daughter, North. Heron. This was mean. She was so pregnant. This is Kim Kardashian. It was Kim Kardashian. I was not mean.

I was not mean. No, no, I'm sorry. The press was mean because she was so pregnant. They'd be like, oh, she looks like a couch. That's mean. But she looks great. I just found the built-in gloves, the funniest thing about the whole thing. That was true. How do you go to the bathroom?

I don't know. Not sure. She was 57 years old and had just released the album Rebel Heart when she turned up at the Met Gala in a Jivanchi outfit with cutouts for her breasts. Karen. That is Madonna. That is Madonna. That is Madonna. Her butt was out too. I just want to be clear that her butt was also out.

You know, I just want to be fair. In 2018, the same year that she starred as Leslie Nineballed Jordan in Oceans 8, she caused a religious controversy at the Met Gala when she dressed as a pearl-encrusted Pope. Karen. Yes. It's Rihanna. It's Rihanna. Rihanna, I believe. She had the Pope hat.

Had the Pope hat. You want to be clear. She had the Pope hat. The theme was religion. Yeah, it was Catholicism. It was. It was. So it was not, it was not entirely. It was on theme. Somehow it wasn't Sia who showed up at the MetGala dressed as a chandelier, but this American Idol judge.

There are so many. Oh, goodness. Would it be Katie Perry? It would be Katie Perry. It would be Katie Perry who would do such a thing. Was it literally dressed like a chandelier? She walked the red carpet dressed as a chandelier, like a character out of the live-action beauty and the beast. Then she changed because she just walked the red carpet as a chandelier.

But for being inside the party, she changed into a cheeseburger costume. Yes. Looking like Mayor McCheese. It's funny because I was like, oh, she can't sit down as a chandelier. She can't. She couldn't sit down as the cheeseburger either. It wasn't his outfit that turned heads at the 2019 Met Gala, but the fact that this Oscar winner was carrying a replica of his own head down the red carpet.

Oh, who was that? The always weird Jared Leto. Oh, that's right. Always can be counted on to be weird, carrying a replica, a very, very realistic and creepy replica of his own head down the red carpet. Good for him. In 2021, Democratic Congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez walked the red carpet wearing a dress emblazoned with this three-word message. Oh, not Karen.

Let's go away to be it. Let's let our guest help. I don't know. Tax the rich. It was tax the rich. Yeah. Karen's running away with it. I need to, you know, let somebody else jump in here.

Yes. Often described as the queen of pop rap, this musical artist very appropriately donned feline facial features for the 2023 gala. Colin was first. Is that Doja Cat? That is Doja Cat. Nicely spotted. Woo! Yes.

And finally, this boundary pushing fashion forward rapper turned up wearing silver body paint, 5,000 tiny crystals, and very little else at the 2023 MetGala. Oh, 2023. Yes. Boundary pushing. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, silver body paint, 5,000 individually applied little tiny crystals, and not much else. Nicky Minage?

Not Nikki Minaj. Lil Nas X? Lil Nas X. Lil Nas X. Oh, phenomenal Met Gala, Cost. for Lil Nasax. Yes, there we go. That is my fashion. Very nice. But of course, you notice that every question had some kind of little hint as to as to who that person was. Because I realized, I think very quickly that if the quiz was simply like, who wore this? Yeah. It's not going to

fly. Good job, Chris. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. I tried. Well, I have a quick quiz. I have a quick lightning round quiz. Are we up for a lighting round? Let's do it. Just a small one. Just a little amuse boosh. All right. Here, lightning round, I have a list of famous fashion brands.

Could be clothes. Could be accessories. Last season, Colin, you had a quiz titled Famous People with Animals in Their Names. So here I have a lightning round of famous brands with animals in their logo. I will give you the brand. and you have to buzz in and tell me what is the animal in their logo. Okay. It gets, it's going to get harder.

Yeah, yeah. All right, here we go. Hermes. Ooh. Colin? Is it a fox? Incorrect. Yes.

Off to a tough start. Yeah, I'm struggling. A horse? It is a horse. Okay. Thank you. Of course. Of course.

Horse carriage. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coach is also horse in carriage. A lot of kind of leather goods in that direction. All right. Lacoste. Coolio?

I don't know if it's an alligator or crocodile. What are those two? Okay. You have to choose one. Allure. Crocodile. It is the crocodile. Right.

Because that was his name, his nickname, right? Yeah. Named after. the tennis player le cost his nickname was the crocodile in french all right next brand abercrombie and fitch oh wait no i didn't buzz in that wasn't me ha i don't know pitch i'm just going to say it is all right colin is it a bird is it is it like a bird of some kind it is a moose oh man okay no no I thought those wings.

I thought that were those antlers? Yeah. I thought that was its mighty wingspan. Not close. How do you explain the four legs? It's a moose bird. Yeah. It's a boose.

It's a boose. Okay. Next brand, Sorovsky. Oh. Colin? This one I do know. It is a bird, I believe. It's a swan, right?

Yeah? Yes. Okay. Oh. Don't everybody buzz in at once. Roots. Oh. Grand Roots.

Colin? Is it a beaver? It is a beaver. Because they're Canadian. Canadian. Appropriate for y'all. You guys love your beavers. We do.

Next one. Graffiti artist turned fashion designer Mark Echo. Oh, yeah. Julio? It's a rhinoceros, rhinoceros. Yes, rhinoceris. Good job. Bag brand, Dooney and Bork.

Oh. Duny and Burke. Colin? Is that a duck? It's a duck. Okay. It's a duck. I'm on the birdbeat over here, guys.

Don't you worry. You know your birds. All right. Golfer also turned fashion clothing person. Greg Norman. Oh. Oh, oh. Colin.

It must be a shark because that's his nickname, right? It's a shark. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I didn't say it. All right. Next brand, Hollister. Oh.

Ultra California. Yeah, I see a lot of Hollister shirts around the Bay Area. Oh, what is the animal? I'm going to guess like a seal? No. Hmm. It is a seagull. A seagull.

Oh, okay, okay. See, he works with you on the birdbeat, Kong. I'm slipping. I'm totally slipping. Right. Last one here. Emporeo Armani. Oh.

Can you picture it? It's an animal in between those two words in a stylized little stripy. Is it a snake? It is an eagle. It is a regal eagle. Oh, I can, yeah, now I can kind of see it. made out of stripes. There we go.

That was fun. I like that a lot. The lightning round. Well, hey, guys. I'm actually glad that I'm this to me because by coincidence, I have a quiz for you. Whoa. How fortuitous. So part of my quiz is I do a round called a Find a Connection.

So there's a hidden theme to this round. Okay. All right. Maybe it would be better to write it because it would help you at the end, yeah. let's do it question number one found it in the eighth century what is the oldest university in the English speaking world

English speaking world yes there's a couple Italians ones that are older currently okay flip that coin Karen oh no yes Colin and Chris got it it's Oxford

not Oxford not Cambridge that is the other one that you probably think of but sorry. Flying, dance, and swinging are a few varieties of what circus act that has performers doing tricks on metal bars attached to the ceiling by a rope. All right. Y'all got it.

Trapeze, trapeze. Okay. Now you should be communicating the connection. I already got it, guys. Oh, really? Wow. Oh, Karen's confident. I got to work harder.

Thank harder, Colin. This vertish crown dependency is an island off the coast of Normandy and is about 3,500 miles from the shore of the new version. I know. Wow. Say it again. This vertish crown dependency is an island off the coast of Normandy and is about 3,500 miles from the shore of the new version.

I don't know. I don't know. Okay, all right, all right. Karen knows what I think. Karen right away. Karen has got it, yeah. Jersey is correct. Jersey.

Yeah. Aaron and Colin got it. All right, here's our next question. The American Film Institute defines what film genre as embodying the spirit, the struggle, and the demise of the new frontier. All right. answer's up you all got it to western western good job after the eagles broke up in 1980 which drummer and singer of that band had his own solo hits with boys of summer and all she wants

to do is dance theme is helping yes it is right right right yeah yeah i got there maybe i'm not sure maybe a little behind karen but i think i got it don henley don henley don henley don henley All right, here's our next question. Believed to be the oldest teen sport, what game played on horseback has its origins in ancient Persia. All right. Polo, Polo. Polo.

This would be the last one that maybe will help you with the theme. So pay attention. What is this symbol for the Tesla? The SI unit for magnetic flux density. Oh, say it again. What is the symbol for the Tesla, the S-I-unit for magnetic flux density? The symbol, like the unit symbol, right? The unit symbol, yes.

Oh, okay, well, I don't know how that ties into the theme. I think you do. I mean, is it just, or I'm not going to be totally wrong, but if it fits the theme. Yeah. All right. Answers. It's the letter T, the letter T.

Yeah. Our last question, what do the previous answers have in common? Shirts. For all types of shirts, yes. Oxford shirts. Polo, a Henley, trapeze. Western shirt.

What is a trapeze shirt? What is the only one? that I just figured out from context. It actually is very loose up top and then they kind of tight on the bottom. Ah. Yeah, it's actually similar to what the trapeze artist often wears, like that.

Oh, okay. You have to tuck it in. I like it. That's good. Thanks, Julio, for the quiz. Yeah, no problem. Thanks for playing with me. That was fun.

I love a good theme with a quiz. That's such a good pub quiz round. It is. I think so. Yeah. All right. With that, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be

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Smooth puzzles. Smart trivia. Good job brain. And we're back this week. We're talking about clothes. We're talking about fashion. I just want to share this. I don't know if anybody else thinks this is funny, but I lost it.

So in the Good Job Brain Loeb-Trotters are Good Job Brain listener fan group on Facebook. You know, I would share like funny trivia things. And one of the things I shared recently was there's a diagram that shows all the possible sleeves out there like what all the sleeve types are called so you know like cap or yeah we might know a cap sleeve or like a bell sleeve that one one style i'm going to describe it on air is this imagine like an old-timey mary poppins character where the top of the shoulder sleeves are puffy and it's long sleeves and it gets tight to the wrist okay you know so it's like billowy shoulder and it kind of tapers and then it's tight on the wrist like an old school marm or something

yes exactly that's like a governess apparently this style is called leg oh mutton a leg oh mutton oh like a lamb yeah okay it does look like a drumstick or like a haunt of a meat but it's like a lady's arm and so a good job bring listener michelle comments she goes I can't imagine a less appealing description than leg oh mutton. And I have to award James here, the best commenter of the year in our group. James wrote a little snippet of a novella. I'm going to do a dramatic reading. This is his comment.

Cynthia, that's a lovely design. What do you call it? Her mind went blank. All of the names she'd been considering. blown glass, spaghetti squash in a shopping bag, thick to thin, they had all disappeared. She thought of the cold gammon sandwich waiting for her in the icebox. And before she could stop herself, she blurted out, Lego mutton! No, that's great.

And well red, and well red, too, I might add, Karen. Such a glimpse of what a novellum. Her mind went blank. Yeah, that's great. It's great. Oh, my God. Just spaghetti squash in a shopping bag. It's so good.

I like thick to thin. Thick to thin. That's the name that you write down, but, you know, it's just because there's no bad ideas and brainstorming. Like, you leave it on the whiteboard, thick to thin. Just so you don't have to write it down again later. Oh, my God. I'm crying.

Colin, enough Lego mutton talk. What about cooking for us? You know, one of the topics we love to talk about on the show is obsolete jobs and karen i was in fact already working on a piece for the show uh on obsolete jobs that was sort of related that was sort of related to occupation names it was kind of a spiritual successor you may recall we talked about the show a while ago about occupation names talked about all the classics like cooper you know which a cooper is somebody who makes barrels and that's right exactly uh a glover a

Slater, you know, somebody who specializes in putting slate on ruse. Like A.C. Slater? Among the many slaters. That's right. So I decided I'm going to reshape this piece I was working on. You gave me some focus. I brought it into into a piece about fabric and cloth and fashion industry related occupations. Not occupation names, but just about obsolete occupations and jobs related to this world. So I've got a four or five here. We will start with an occupational name.

Do you guys remember, I think we talked about this long ago, the surname and the occupation of Fuller, F-U-L-L-E-R. Do you remember? Do you know what was or is a Fuller? What is... Something to do with hats? No. It's more raw, even.

A Fuller was someone who prepared wool in the process of making final wool, the raw elements into what you could wear. Folling was basically a very early step in the wool process where you're taking the first step of processed wool and you're cleaning it. You're getting the oil, the dirt, the lanolin, you know, fancy name for sheep sweat, like just any debris out of the wool fibers. Fuling way, way back involved working and beating the fibers

as you clean it. So not only cleans it, it also shrinks the wool fibers. And it makes them more tightly bound, increases the water resistance, all kinds of good things that you want when you're making wool for clothing. Going back to ancient times, the main substance they used for fooling is not water. And in copious amounts, was not water, was good old pee. Good old urine. That's right.

That's right. And by old urine, I am being literal, stale urine was preferred for this task. Because you really needed the concentrated goodness and the ammonia and the other good things that pee brought to the process. And there were many small and large steel versions of fulling. But a fuller was somebody whose job was to beat, work, massage, sometimes literally walk on in a literal vat of urine, walk on the wool to prepare it for the process. It was not always urine, to be clear, that there was a lot of water-based fulling treatments where you're agitating.

The main thing past the cleaning was to agitate the wool fibers, right? So you could get that with just water. They did eventually bring into the process. They discovered Fuller's Earth. We've talked about this on the show. Yes. Oh, that's related. Mm-hmm.

That's right. That's what it was called Fuller's Earth because it was, it's a clay-like substance. Most of us today, if we encounter Fuller's Earth at all, it's in the form of cat litter, similar like a bentonite or something like that, but it's very good at absorbing the oil and the dirt from wool in particular. The job, of course, eventually became largely extinct, the job of a human working as a fuller, whether you're beating it with your hands in water or stepping on it in tubs of urine. And, of course, through the Industrial Revolution, these days, fooling and the modern sense is done

by machine. The process of fulling was also known. I learned just for this segment, also known as walking. As I mentioned, you would literally walk on the wall. Tucking was another name for this process as well. These processes give us two more surnames,

Tucker and Walker. Yes, Tucker and Walker most likely descended from the occupation name of the someone who was doing tucking as well as walking. Right. Moving right along, I learned about another extinct occupation called the Wode dyer, woad, Wode, W-O-A-D. Yeah, it's a, it is a plant, that's right. And, you know, prior to the invention of artificial dyes, if you wanted to dye your fabric blue, you would very likely use some indigo dye. Yeah, that's right.

And you might be thinking, ah, yes, indigo. which comes from the indigo plant, which it does. Karen, you, of course, have talked about the Murex genus of sea snail. Yes. Also a source of-purple. That's right, a source of indigo. The Murex snails, they produce a mixture, actually, of indigo and a related more red compound, which combine to create, as you say, what we call teary and purple.

But before true indigo was exported from India, primarily in other places, For hundreds of years in Europe, if you wanted to make something blue, you would need to get your hands on some woad. It is a plant, is a flowering plant. The only catch is that with woed, you get a lot less indigo per plant, kind of per plant unit. It's not as efficient as with true indigo, and it is much more intensive process. It turns out that being a woad dyer was not a particularly end. enviable job. I'll let you know again, it does involve some urine. We can't seem to escape with urine. I don't, I did not set out to seek urine-related tasks. So right, you got your

wode. You know, if you're living in medieval times and you, you need some blue, you'd grow your woad, you'd harvest it. You would break it up into small pieces and you would basically need to start fermenting the woad product, okay? It is a multi-step process. As it turns out, urine quite good at accelerating the fermentation process of these little bits of woad. And it smelled terrible because you've got these giant vats with pee and stuff in them. Once you get past the urine fermentation, you need to use some other chemicals with varying

degrees of danger to get the indigo from essentially just being a pigment state into a soluble state where you can actually use it to penetrate wool or other fibers and change the color. So this was, it was dirty, smelly, blue, hard, caustic work. In the 1600s, however, indigo, true indigo, as they say from the indigo plant, began to be imported into the European continent, which effectively killed large scale woad dying as an industry They didn't need it. It was not nearly as efficient. They didn't need it.

And then, of course, we have artificial dyes, which most clothing and textiles these days use artificial dies. So I'm looking this up because I'm like, how, how blue is it? It's pretty blue. It's pretty blue. Yeah. All right. As we move forward here a little bit, we're going to get to the early days of the Industrial Revolution. We've got two jobs here I learned about that.

I am thankful no longer exist, which were the doffer. and the mule scavenger. It's not a mule doing scavenging. These are both humans doing these jobs. As you guys know, right, in the early days of the Industrial Revolution, it was free-for-all in a lot of ways, unlicensed operators, no regulatory oversight, child labor. I mean, people work in crazy hours. Let's talk a little bit about that child labor.

One of the key roles for children in early textile mills. and factories was a job known as the doffer, D-O-F-F-E-R. In a giant factory industrial-sized spinning machine, the bobbins, okay, of the fibers were called doffs. And when the bobbins were full spinning, the machine had to stop. And they had to replace the doffs with fresh ones. So this was a job that didn't need a lot of skill per se or strength. it needed quickness, it needed dexterity.

So time is money. You wanted this job done fast. So what else would you do except hire a crew of children to do this job for you? You would have the doffers who would be kids anywhere from 8 to 12 years old. And when it was time to change the doffs, they would blow the whistle. They would call them in. They would come in as fast as they could, swipe them off, get the freshmen's on there. This was dangerous work.

You're on big machines. You say, this sounds very huge. you very dangerous you're watching out for yourself there's no there's no union there's no one like giving you medical care right no so the kids run in they change the doffs change the bobbins and then they get the heck out of the way so the machine can start back up again and continue you know it sounds like in between these rounds of changing they were kind of free to just hang out goof off do whatever you know in the vicinity of the mill as long as they were there ready to be called back to work.

A related job, even more dangerous, was the mule scavenger. This was the person scavenging mules. Now, what mules were sort of the bits of usable but leftover material that either falls to the floor, gets caught between the machine or behind machines, that's right. And again, on an industrial scale, when you're paying children to do your labor, they decided we can't let any bit go unused. We're going to reclaim this and put it back in the system. So in the brief moments when the machine is changing over or moving out of the way,

these kids would come in and grab the little pieces, sometimes reach in and around machinery to get bits of fabric or fibers. I mean, you name it, mangled fingers, heads bashed. I mean, you're lucky if you only get like your hair caught in the machine or something. It's just a total nightmare, a total labor nightmare for kids working as mule scavengers. And doffered. And he must have died doing that job. I read at least a report of a couple dying.

And again, the factories were not under any obligation to keep records. They certainly were not looking to publicize this. It's horrible. It is quite likely that the number of injuries or deaths is much greater than we have any record of. Yeah, terrible. Terrible. Great thing that this does not exist anymore. We will close it out here with something that's maybe more fashion adjacent.

I'm going to talk to you guys about pointers. If you guys have watched any project runway or similar fashion show over the years, there are pins and needles everywhere. You see them all the time. They're pinning up art. They're pinning things on, the mannequins, whatever. Today, virtually every pin or needle you buy is made by a machine from start to finish. They make millions of them. But for thousands of years, for all of human history, basically, up until very recently,

needles were made by hand. and you would make them out of whatever you could. It got a little more professionalized. You had factories doing it. You know, they're made out of metal instead of bone or stone over time. In the early days, again, of the Industrial Revolution, this process moved into a really weirdly dangerous, semi-automated state, okay? So you were sort of making the needles by machine, but you were largely making them

by hand, especially finishing them by hand. How do you make a needle? How do you make a needle? All right. You start with a heavy gauge of wire, right? I mean, process is basically the same. You start with a heavy gauge of wire, usually steal, and you draw it down to the length that you want.

So you get your wire to the thickness you want. You cut it to size. All right. How do you make it pointy? Sharpen it? The pointer was the person whose job it was to grind the points onto the ends of the needles or the pins. With what?

So they would hold the metal stock, the little pieces, against a very fast spinning grinding stone to do this, okay? Now, so among the many hazards of this job of being a pointer are flying pieces of sharp metal hitting you in the face, possibly the eye part of the face, blinding you because you don't have goggles on and you are just a person holding a piece of metal against a fast spinning stone. The occasional exploding grinding wheel. This happened with an alarming degree of frequency. Yeah, you get too much friction or heat and speed on the wheel, and it would literally just burst into pieces and send flying chunks of grinding wheel about. The absolute grimest hazard of this job that I read about is called Pointers Rott. Oh, my God.

Pointer's Rott was a lung disease, brought on by the prolonged inhalation of fine metal dust, grinding stone dust, debris in the air. The average life expectancy of a pointer was only 35. Oh, my God. That just a few years on the job as a pointer would just, again, not intending the pun would just wear you down. And I read also that the needles were also coated. in asbestos as an anti-rusting measure. They did not, of course, know that it was not good to be breathing asbestos, let

alone handling it. We should all be very thankful that this is done by machines these days, and everything is nice and ventilated and clean, and no one's catching bits of needle or stone to the face anymore. We just have microplastics. Yeah, we just have microplastics. Traded one problem for another. Yeah.

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All right. I have our last segment. Yeah. And this segment is titled, help. I'm wearing too many hats. It's a bit of an unusual quiz. There's so many hats. So many, many, many, many different types of hats in the world, all very iconic from different cultures, from different historical times.

You know, although we might recognize these hats when we see them, we might not know their official name or their technical name or their proper name. Okay. So here in this quiz, I'm going to give you the official or technical or proper name of a style of a hat. They're all very iconic. We all know them, but you just might not know the name. I'm going to give you a little bit of a description as a clue. And this is the weird thing. You have to write down who is usually or famously seen wearing this hat.

Okay. It can be a specific person. It can be maybe a general group of people. Okay. It could be like a profession or you can be fictional. Can be visual characters. All right. Does that make sense?

Yeah. No. For example, if I say, Dear Stocker, a tweed cap with ear flaps often tied up top, you would write down a famous person. Yes, Sherlock Holmes. You would write down a famous person or people wearing that iconic hat. All right.

All right. Technically, you could also say like, oh, old-timey British deer hunters, which is technically correct, but like in the spirit of this quiz, it's the most iconic, the most famous. All right. Okay. All right. So that's kind of the flavor. I mean, again, it's this is a bit of an experiment, a bit of an unusual quiz because there could be a lot of acceptable answers. Okay. All right. I look forward to some favorable judging. Well, why don't you buy me some hatchbrowns? You're never going to learn this much about hats as you're about to in this quiz. so many hats so here we go first hat is a montera it's a fur cap with two bulbs on the side

traditionally from iberia a monterra m-o-n-t-e-r-a a fur cap with two bulbs on the side that's traditionally from iberia Everybody is putting their hands next to their heads. Fur cap with two bulbs. It is Princess Leia like. Princess Leia like, okay, all right. From Iberia. Traditionally from Iberia. Who would be wearing a Monterra?

Montere. What would you be doing if you're wearing a Monterra? Are you a farmer? Fur? Fur? Julio's got a good guess. Looking smug over there. I think so.

Answers up. Sorry, Colin. Answer's up. All right. Chris put, Bjork. Colin put, Don Quixote.

And Julio has the right answer. Oh, of course. Answer, Matador. Matador. I couldn't picture it, but as soon as you said, Matador locked it in.

Bull fighting, bull fighter. It's not very nice to the bull. traditionally from Iberia, Spain. And was that the traditional use of that hat? Yes. In the bullfighting culture. It's for like for the performance of it.

Okay. Got it. All right. Who. Next one is a casket. Casket. C-A-S-Q-U-E-T-E. It's an old-timey cotton cap with a peaked brim that can shield eyes from the sun and the rain.

Old-timey cotton cap. let's all visualize and manifest with a peaked brim cotton cap sun and rain people don't really wear these anymore people wear helmets now all right wait they wear helmets now I don't know if I have it but all right answers up Colin has put like a bike writer bike writing Julio's put fishermen And Chris put bicyclists It is for road cycling Okay

Well you said helmets The fact that it sounded very French as well Yeah A lot of like old Tour de France photos Pre helmets Yeah You're wearing these little racing caps A whoopee cap

Like a whoopee cushion Spelled the same way But a cap A whoopie cap A hat often made from a felt fedora With the brim cut into a zigzag edge and turned up. Who wears a whoopee cap?

A hat often made from felt fedora with the brim cut into a zigzag edge and turned up. Huh. Zigzag. I picture it. I picture it. You picture it. Wow. You guys got this one?

You guys are, huh? I wrote down something. I don't know. Man. Okay. The original character. Oh. Oh.

Alio gave you a clue. All right. Well, I got it wrong. I'll stick by my answer. All right. Colin has put Cab Callaway, who is a very real person. Chris and Julio got it. Of course.

It is Jughead. Yeah, the little sort of zigzaggy specky cap. Yeah. A whoopee cap. Interesting. What we call a jughead hat. Like a felt crown, kind of. It's weird that it's a hat that's made from another hat.

Usually it's associated with old-timey mechanics. Oh. It wasn't just a Jughead thing. Like, Jughead, I mean, like it came from somewhere outside of Archie Comics. Okay, all right. Yeah. Next one, I'm pretty sure we've all worn one. A mortar board.

A mortar board. A hat named because it looks like a mortar board. It really does. Used in bricklaying. Answers up, who usually wears a mortar board? Julio says, graduate. Colin put graduates. Chris says graduate.

Yes, it's the graduation cap. Yes. That doesn't really stay on your head very well. You have to use like a bunch of bobby pins. What a scam. What a scam too. It's graduation time. Yeah.

Because graduation time, here's this one company that you have to buy it from. It's meant to last all of like 90 minutes. Yeah. Next one, we have the bicorn, the bicorn, a traditionally military and naval hat with two corners unlike its sibling the tricorn

which has three corners I'll tell you a tricorn is like a pirate hat right the town crier yeah like a American revolutionary hat who wears who famously wears a bichorn

okay what's the matter couldn't afford a third corn yeah well not in today's economy answers Chris wrote Napoleon Colin wrote Napoleon and Julio also wrote Napoleon

it is Napoleon A lot of other famous people as well I would have accepted Mr. Captain Crunch He is also wearing a bichorn hat I think it's fair to say Napoleon owns the bicorn Yeah No matter what movie, what depiction

He's always wearing that dang hat All right next hat The Capotane, I'm not sure how to pronounce this, Capotane, C-A-P-O-T-A-I-N, Capotane, a hat with a tall, slightly tapered crown, often with a big old buckle in the front. The Capotane, a hat with a tall, slightly tapered crown, often with a big old buckle in front. Capitan, Capitaine. Okay. All right. At least as far as depictions have led me to believe. Colin put a pilgrim. Chris put, Quaker Oats guy, Julio Long John Silver. It is the pilgrim hat. What we associate with is the pilgrim. Right. This is going to be one of those things where it was like one guy. Yeah.

One guy sits for a portrait with a buckle on his hat and they're like, oh, what? Right. Yeah. Everyone thinks it buckles everywhere. Yeah. All right. Two more. Here we go.

A T-Y-R-O-E-A-N. T-R-O-E-A-N. Tyrolean hat traditionally made of green felt and maybe a feather decoration. Mm-hmm. From the Tyrol region of Europe. Tirolian hat traditionally made of green felt, maybe has a little feather decoration. Mm-hmm. hails from the Tyrol Valley region of Europe.

Okay. Yeah, I can picture it. A group of people. There's some fictional characters, maybe real characters, real people who also would wear this. A lot of acceptable answers. Let's see.

I'm going with the classic yodeler as depicted. Colin put yodeler. Chris put Peter Pan. Julio says the wrinkle. Yes. 100% I would have also accepted Captain von Trapp

from Sound of Music yes also known as the Alpine hat, the Yodler hat, the Swiss hat October Fest costumes October Fest dress Ricola guy The yodler

Okay the last hat Again hats have different names. So you might know this hat as another name. It is called a gimmee hat, a gimmee hat, which is a regional name for a baseball cap with a mesh back and a foam front. Like, give it to me. A regional name for a baseball cap with a mesh back and a foam front. Again, lots of acceptable answer. Who would wear a gimmee hat? What is known as a gimmee hat? I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you the alternate name that I

learned for this hat and hope that I'm correct. Okay. And hopefully that person wears this hat. That's right. Oh, Crystal's thinking. I got nothing. I have no idea. Yeah. A baseball cap with a mesh back. Oh, I know what you said. And a foam front. Oh, I heard you.

Answers up. Chris is blank. Colin put trucker. Julio put trucker. It is, a.k.a. the trucker hat. Classly trucker hat. This is fascinating. So a lot of regions called this gimmee hat or a feed hat. Famously in some of Stephen King's work, the gimmee hat.

In the 70s, this was a very popular freebie, like a promotional thing, which I mean, it still is today. But that's when it started in the 70s. So like a lot of farm feed companies would. give out these promotional freebies to farmers to truckers to wear. A lot of places call it a gimmee hack. It's like, give me, give me some free stuff. I literally have one for,

uh, don't need to public radio. Yes. With his tissue name on and everything. Those definitely had a had a comeback or a moment. I don't know what you want to call it. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. They're also super easy to like put a logo on there, you know, with like all the prints on demand services. It's flat. It's, it's porous. it's white yeah it's well because most baseball hats you have a seam going down in the middle whereas a trucker hat it's pretty flat it doesn't have a seam and so you can print something

and then you can made it out of foam yeah all right good job guys see a lot of hats I told you Kara loves like these like like these really deep pools like hats sandwiches where it's like you can just go yeah well all right that is our show Julio Thank you so much for stopping by. Thank you for having me. You're such an important trivia person in my life in addition to Chris and Colin. I'm happy we can hang out again. So glad you could join it.

Yeah, absolutely. Where can people find you, Julio? Yeah, they can find me on Instagram or Facebook. My company name is Denver Tribia League. And yeah, follow us on those social media and come to one of our trivia nights. If you are in the Denver area, we have a bunch. Do you have music quizzes? You have music quizzes in your pub.

We do, yeah. So we have a music round. always and actually do music bingo just like regular music bingo. What's music bingo? What do you do? So music bingo is we play short snippets of a song if you can identify the song

on like a bingo board. We're kind of laid back. If you kind of want to just hang out at a bar and just listen to music and not have to be in. No, I want to be stressed out and yell at my friends at a bar. That's like the optimal experience for me at a bar. We have both options for me.

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