Good Job, Brain! - 301: Come On Down!

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Greetings Taskmasters, Traitors, Survivors, and Game Changers! Will you Press Your Luck when the Price is Right on this Amazing Race? Or will The Mole from The Floor give you The Chase, and put your Trivial Pursuit in Jeopardy!? Game show vets Sara DelVillano and Warren Grace join us for quizzes and segments about game shows AND in the style of game shows: The Crystal Maze, Let's Make a Deal and the Monty Hall problem, the Impossible Quiz, the most successful reality talent show contestants, and finally, a game show for pescatarians. For advertising inquiries, please contact [e-mail]! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Greetings, taskmasters, traders, survivors, and game changers. Will you press your luck when the price is right on this amazing race? Or will the mole from the floor give you the chase and put your trivial pursuit in jeopardy? Welcome to Good Job, Bring, your weekly quiz show and Offbeat Trivia podcast. This is episode 301, and today we're doing something different. It's a game show extravaganza. And I'm your humble host, Karen.

And we are your gam of game-sum gamer gamekeepers from gametes. I am Colin. No Chris for this episode. Yeah, he has prior commitments. Unusual for us to announce an episode topic this early in the show, Colin, we just keep it close to our vest, yeah. Yeah, we kind of keep it a fake mystery, even though it's like the title

of the episode, but it's been an unusual season. We had guests. We never really had guests before. We had some unusual quizzes. Now we have a special game show episode where we've prepped quizzes about game shows and in the style of our favorite game shows, but of course

we need some contestants, don't we? Wouldn't be a game show without it? Let's bring out our guests and friends for this episode. Come on. First, we have Sarah Del Vellano, music teacher and a good job brain listener. Hello, welcome to the show. Welcome. Hey, y'all.

Nice to be here. Then we have Warren Grace, Crupier, also friend and listener of Good Job Brain. Welcome. Thank you for having me. Great to be here. We all last saw each other in person. at SporkelCon. That's right. That's right.

Yes. And we even did an escape room together. Colin, you weren't there. Missed out, Colin. It was amazing. We actually did two escape rooms. For this long in our friendship, Colin and I have not done an escape room together. It's true. It's true. It's not his jam. It was pretty amazing, though. We did two rooms. We did a 90s arcade.

No, 80s arcade. And then that was so fun, and we did so well on that, that we decided to do a second one, and we did a Po-themed room. Yes. Really cool. That's quite a contrast. It was. Sarah and Warren, you guys are no strangers to game shows. Tell us about some of your game show pedigree.

Warren, when to go first? I have to date been on two game shows. I was on the Chase once, and I was on an episode of Jeopardy so far. Nice. The Jeopardy alum. Here they are. We're a Jeopardy couple. I was also on Jeopardy.

I was a finalist in the 2019 Teachers Tournament. Nice. And the person who beat me went on to be a finalist in the tournament of champions against James Holstower. Okay. That's pretty cool. You know, because you're going to lose. You got to lose to someone who's great, right? Right.

I want to see them win. Yeah. So I was on four episodes of Jeopardy. And then last season, I was on the very first premiere series of trivial pursuit with none other than Lovar Burton. I call him Uncle LaVar. He's incredible, and he also smells very good. They tape out in London, so that's pretty cool. So plug for trying out for Tribial Pursuit.

They really run a pretty cool show there. Right, right, right at the top, bullet point, get to smell LeVar Burton. And then it proceeds from there. Yeah, like smell LeVar and then talk to LeVar. I high fived LeVar. And then other things happen. Like, I maybe won a little money, but secondary to LeVar. Sarah won big.

It did all right. On Jeopardy, was it Alex? Was the host for both of you? I had Mayam for my episode. Oh, wow. Blossom herself. That's right. I did have Alex.

It was right after he announced his cancer diagnosis. Oh, wow. So, yeah, it was difficult because they also invited the teachers to the rap party. It was the end of the season. And no one thought that he'd be coming back. He did come back for two more seasons because, you know, consummate professional. But they threw a huge party and they let us all come to it. Oh, what an honor.

Yeah. It really, it really was really an honor. Yeah. Well, without further ado, this is a trivia podcast. Let's jump into our first general trivia segment. I think we're going to do a little bit of a trivia exchange here. So get ready for pop quiz. Hot Shot.

Warren here has been dying to be the quiz master for Pop Quiz Hot Shot. Let's go through our buzzers. Everybody's buzzers first. Colin, you got the horse. The horse. I got the spring. And I have geese. So usually for Pop Quiz, what we do is, well, I have a 20-pound box of Trivial Pursuit cards,

and I will pick a card at random. we'll answer the questions. And Warren and Sarah here collectively, I bet they also have 20 pounds of Tribal Pursuit Cards. All right, Warren, take it away. All right. Blue Wedge, people and places. What two countries claim two thirds of the world's 2,000-plus registered saints?

That's like Colin. I'm going to say it has to be France has to be one and Italy. That is correct, yes. Wow. Well done. Well done. Pink, aren't in entertainment. Whose ragtime hits were instrumental in popularizing the player piano.

A Scott Joplin. Correct. Yellow Wedge for history. How many decades after her grueling NASA astronaut physical did Eileen Collins become the first woman space shuttle pilot? Oh. That's a blind care. If it's decades, how many decades? Like, 30 seems too long.

10 seems like it's long, but maybe I'm going to guess 20. Incorrect. Goose, Sarah. I'll say three. I'll second that. It is three. Yeah. Amazing.

Because I'm imagining that, like, you know, she first tried out when she was young, right? 20s, maybe. And then, you know, to be the pilot, you got to be a little. more senior anyway, but I could still see you being a pilot in your 50s. I don't know. Right. Brown, science and nature. What's the only fish that produces real

caviar, according to the FDA? I heard of the boeing, Karen. Sturgeon. Sturgeon is great. All right. All right, sports and leisure Green Wedge. What giant bone-crushing 1985

tackle ended Joe Thesman's career? Oh, the Chothys, yeah, the Chothisman. I should know this and I'll be mad when you say it, but it's not coming to me. It is Lawrence Taylor. Yes, of course, Lawrence Taylor. A horrific Monday Night Football debunker. Yeah, that they replayed just over and over in case you missed it.

We got it. He's not coming back. What set was that from? Genus 4. I got one more, though. Orange Wild Car. What trucker's companion Do Radio Shack Hawk as

a survival tool for the energy crunch of the 1970s? Ooh, for the energy crunch. Does it mean like the energy? Oh, okay. Sarah.

Like a crank battery? Incorrect. Oh. Good thought, though. Colin. Is it just the CB, just the Citizens Band radio? Is that? Yes.

Okay. Just the CB radio. All right. how would that help with energy? I don't know. Yeah, I decided to just give up on the why and sort of just focus on like the what. Interesting.

Before we move on, do you want to tell them where that card came from? Yes, this was one of the cards you gave us at the Sporkel Kit. Yeah, we had a good job, at SporkelCon. We had a podcast session, and then we gave everybody in the audience

like a little gift bag. I tried to upload a lot. of trivial pursuit cards and it's still not enough the law of conservation of trivial pursuit cards that can neither be created or destroy that just pass around all right and i have a card for you three this is our little trivial pursuit card exchange this is from the 90s edition of and it warren's buzzer will be his voice moo moo all right you guys ready here we go blue wedge Who played Jennifer Lopez's son in my family and her daddy in Salina? Okay.

Is it Edward James almost? Yes. My favorite movie of his is Stand and Deliver. Of course. Oh, my gosh. Excellent movie. Wow, a math movie. It speaks to me.

All right. Next question. in what CNN host asked Deepak Chopra. Can't we get more Dalai Lamas? Okay, this is 90s. Warren, so it's a very sad move. Warren. I just feel right, but I would say it.

It's not Anderson Cooper, is it? It's just too late for it. That's too early for him. But I would say Anderson Cooper. No, but I think you're right. I think it's a little bit too early for him. Yeah. Sarah?

Is it Geraldo Rivera? No, but I see your life. line of thinking, Colin, you want to give me a CNN host? From the 90s. Oh. You don't have to bust, but okay. Sorry, you know, I can't take it. I can't take the muscle memory.

Is it Mr. Larry King? It is Mr. Larry King. Okay. All right. Next question, Yellow Edge. What Oliver Stone movie did Dylan Klebold write about in fellow Columbine shooter, Eric Harris's yearbook? Wow.

Sorry with my intonation or my stress. I didn't know where to stop in that sentence. What Oliver Stone movie did Dylan Klebold write about in fellow Columbine shooter Eric Harris's yearbook? Colin. Is it platoon? No. Okay. Oh, I, okay.

Sarah. Is it born on the 4th of July? No. Oh, worn. The full metal jacket? Incorrect. Colin. Is it natural-born killers?

Of course. Oh, what a downer. I mean, it's 90s, it's a big 90s thing. It's an important 90s thing. Purple Wedge, what malt beverage marketed by KOR is capitalized on the clear craze of the early 90s? Everybody. Zima. Zima.

Zima. I used to hide it in my closet. I can close my eyes and taste it. I don't even think it tastes bad. You pop a scittle in there? Yeah, yeah. It can taste like anything you wanted to taste like. Yeah, yeah.

Next question, Green Wedge. What southern U.S. city was central to midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil? Sarah. Savannah, Georgia. Savannah, Georgia. And then let's see. Last question on this 90s. card. What tagline

did AOL and Kodak dream up for their joint online photo service? Huh. It's guessable. Warren? You've got photos? Incorrect. Oh.

I like that. I like that. Is he close, Karen? I mean, is it sort of like in the right? It's got to be something like that. Like, it's not you've got photo, you got pictures, you've got. You've got pictures. Oh, okay. I'm giving Warren, 99% of that answer.

So good. All right. Good job. Like I said, before, this is our game show extravaganza. We've all prepared mystery quizzes and segments about game shows or in the style of game shows. So come on down. Well, first up, we have Sarah Warren. You guys crafted a quiz for us.

I'm very intrigued. Tell us all about it. Well, we love our American game shows. Beechazam, give us a call. We decided to actually make this after the game show we are currently obsessed with. This show gets watched every day in our home, and it is impossible. It is a UK show. Yeah.

They add a third dimension to quiz shows. I don't know this one. Oh, fabulous, fabulous. The way Impossible is played is that it's multiple choice, but there are, three possible outcomes based on what you choose. So if you choose the correct answer, you get the point. If you choose an incorrect answer, nothing happens. So you don't lose or gain.

If you choose the impossible answer that couldn't possibly fit the top of the question, then you will lose a point. So I'll give you an example. So let's say I said, this current host of Good Job Brain is a huge fan of podcasts and escape rooms. And it would be A, Karen, B, Colin, or C, Thomas. A would be the correct answer because we have established that Karen loves escape rooms. B wouldn't be incorrect because Colin is a host on the podcast.

So that is an incorrect answer, but not impossible. And the impossible answer would be Thomas because who's Thomas? We don't know. We don't know that guy. Okay. So that is impossible. So your goal here is to get the correct answer. And we're going to do the scoring as such.

If you get it right, you get one point. If you get the wrong answer, that's zero. And if you guess the impossible, that's going to be minus one off of your score. Okay. So you two are competing for highest points. And we used the themes from episodes 100 of Good Job Brain, which I believe is Karen's favorite episode. Yes.

As well as episode 200. So this is in celebration of 300. All of the themes came from 100 and 200, but they're not direct questions. They're just things that maybe were mentioned. Love it. Okay, wow. Okay.

We're going to alternate reading, and you just show us which letter you believe to be the right answer. All right. Let's do it. Here we go. Question one. What is the nickname of the only person to score 100 points in an NBA game? Is it A, the postman, B, the stilt, or C, Mr.

October? Okay. All right. A, the postman, B, the stilt, or C, Mr. October. Well, that's so not fair, because Colin knows us for sure. I feel like I know it. Don't worry, Karen. I always lose these, these topes of quiz. So, yeah, I might jump out to a one-point lead here. We'll see. All right. Karen's showing B. Colin's showing B. B. B is correct. Wilt the stilt. Wilt the stilt. That is correct. He did not know. The postman is Carl Malone, who is an NBA player. And Mr. October is Reggie Jackson, who is not an NBA player. Who plays baseball? Yes. He was a naked gun. Also true, yes. Yeah, I must kill the queen. Yes.

All my knowledge of sports and history is from movies. Yep, yep. All right. Speaking of history, our second question is a history related. The question is, which primary combatant in the 100 years war won the war? A is England. B is Russia. And C is France.

One. Okay. okay i like i like this structure this is very interesting structure for a quiz okay okay oh they do not agree all right colin says a england and karen says c france so we're going to go ahead and address the impossible answer first which is of course russia so russia was not part of the 100 year war so no one's losing a point but someone's gaining a point and someone isn't so the answer and this is a shout out to my trivia team the ashes Ash and Ash is France.

Ah! From the Miss Universe contest. Warren is our trivia host, and anytime the answer is France, we must shriek it. And as we learned in episode 100, the 100 years war was actually 120 years long. Yeah, yep, yeah. I mean, better branding, to be fair, you know. We already had these shirts made up. We can sell these for another few years. All right. Question three.

Which Tom Hardy movie is currently 100 on the top grossing movies of all time, according to box office mode? Is it A, Spector, B, Inception, or C, the Dark Night Rises? 100 on the all time like it's within the 100 or it's number 100 it is number 100 top grossing ah god with inflation gosh inflation always kills me um what were the choices one more time yeah a specter b inception

or c the dark night rises okay Okay. Oh, we agree. We agree. Karen and Colin both say, C, the Dark Night Rises. That is wrong.

Ah, is it Inception? It is Inception. Wow. The Dark Night Rises actually number 36. Wow, okay. Yeah, super high. Got him. I guess it makes sense that would make more money.

Yeah, right. I was really trying to gauge, like, could I think of 100 just out of the part? movies that's a great great great question flew it too close to the sun so because i was like i was i don't think he's inspector batman is so popular that it would probably do better at box office you know i guess what my what my obviously flawed reasoning was also that like the batman movies might dilute each other a little bit whereas inception what no i mean clearly i was wrong uh but yeah also it turns out that was our first date was inception it was oh that's a pretty good

Date movie, because you can talk about it afterwards. Yeah, there's a lot of what the heck just happened. I don't get it, but at least I'll remember what year it came out. All right, number four. Which voice actor from Anna Maniacs performed the infamous Belch from Elf? A, Rob Paulson. B, Phil Lamar. Or C.

Maurice Lamar. March. Wow. Wow. Okay. A. Rob Poulson. B. Phil Lamar or C. Maurice LaMarch. Oh, man. This is such a caring question. I am I am fighting uphill on this one. I know at least two of those names. I know that at least two of those names are well-known voice actors. Phil Lamar is like in everything. Phil Lamar's in everything. And Rob is, is Yakov. Yeah. All right.

I'm just, I'm just going to just. Ah. Okay. They, oh, they agree. So both Karen and Colin put B. Phil Lamar. And I am sorry to say that that is impossible. He was not on anima maniacs as a voice actor.

Okay. The, uh, the answer is C. Maurice Lamarge, the brain. I almost put that. I just hesitated. I went with the person who I thought maybe had more credits. All right. Interesting. We actually went to an Animaniac's live event. And it was, me and Chris went. Yeah. We went in front of Maryland. And I don't know if your concert had the same, but they performed the new verse of the countries of the world. And I did record it. Right. So if we want a recording of that, I do have it. But it was really entertaining and Maurice LaMarch is incredible and he can switch between voices as easily as we can talk.

It's really cool. So we got you guys. All right. Karen's still running away with this one to nil. One zero. Yeah. Shalacking, right? I think the tides are about to change.

Question number five. Which major league? baseball team first fielded babe ruth is it a the new york yankees b the b the boston redsox or c the baltimore terrapins oh is that even a real team are there actual terrapins in baltimore when were they the orioles okay oh Colin has gone with the Boston Red Sox, and Karen has gone with the Baltimore Terrapins. The Baltimore Terribans is impossible. They were never a Major League Baseball team, but Colin nails it.

It is the Boston Red Sox. I mean, I must have made a fake fact in my head. I was like, oh, I think he's from Baltimore. So, oh, let me fill all this in. He is from Baltimore. Oh. And he played for a federal league. team called the Baltimore Terrapins before the Red Sox signed him.

Interesting. Oh. Well, as I, as I expected, we did have a turn of the tide. And Colin has now taken the lead. All right. On to six, and there are 12 of these. Which type of collector was astronaut Sally Ride? Oh, geez. Was she A, a phylogenist?

was she be a philatelist or c a philuminist again what type of collector was astronaut sally ride a phologianist b philatelist or c voluminist phylogelogist phylogenist phylogenist well i know what the b and c are but i'm not really sure what Sally Ride, the astronaut. I'm just trying to figure out what first one is. Maybe it's made up. Maybe that's an impossible one.

I don't know. Maybe not. I'm trying to figure out the right answer. That's what I'm trying to do. That is the better way to win, yeah. Okay. All right. There we go.

There we go. Okay. We go with the safe answer. Oh, we disagree again. Karen said be philatelist. and Colin said C, philuminist. So let's start with the impossible answer, which you both figured out is the first one, philogynist.

Though Stanley Wright was a philogynist, that is an admirer of women. She did not collect them. So that means that either she was a stamp collector or a collector of matchbooks, and she was a stamp collector. So the answer is B, philatelist. And they actually have her collection in the Smithsonian National Postal Museum.

Oh, wow. If you go there, you can see her actual stamp collection, which is really cool. Question seven. On the TV show in Living Color, which character did Damon Wayans portray in the men-on-film sketch? Oh, man. Okay. Okay. Is it, A, Jimmy Dix, B, Antoine Meriwether, or C, Blaine Edwards?

I can hear it, I can hear it, but I can hear it both ways. A, Jimmy Dix, B, Antoine Meriwether, and C, Blaine Edwards. Hated it. All right. Oh, no. Oh, they disagree again. Colin has said B, Antoine Meriwether.

Such a coin flip. And Karen has said C. Blaine Edwards. Damon Wayans was Blaine Edwards. Every time, being betrayed by my coin flip sensibility. And Jimmy Dix, right, was,

if I'm not mistaken, was that was that Jim Carrey character? He was Damon Wayans' character in the last Boy Scout. Oh, that's a good, wrong answer. All right. What's our tally at right now? How deep am I in the hole here?

You are in the hole by one. Okay. Karen has two. Colin has one. Still a close game. All right. All right. On to eight.

We're getting a little bit more obscure here. Which Lifetime movie was written by Trivia Phenom, Muffy Morocco? Is it A, ghosted by a ghost? B, girl's best friend Or C, live once, die twice I remember ghosted by a ghost I could hear it in Dana's voice Yes, but I'm like

Was it a bit? I don't remember if it was real or not I'm like, was it a bit or was it? Yeah, man, I'm seriously Yeah, was it us making fun of an actual one? Ghosted by a ghost, be girl's best friend And C, live once, die twice. bond how bond very bond sounding so i think ghost by ghost is probably the impossible

because you there can't be too impossible right all right let's get some answers up here oh we disagree again i love when this happens so karen has b girl's best friend colin has c live once die twice so you both kind of remember that ghosted by a ghost is not a real lifetime movie. It was and invented by Dana. So the answer is B, girls' best friend. So this question is an ode to two of our favorite women of

trivia, Dana and Muffy Morocco, who we adore. Dana's in fashion school and she's working hard and she moved to the other side of the country. Very often we talk about how much we missed Dana on the show. Yeah. Question number nine. We're trying to get into the more challenging ones, I think. What 1998 movie was the first to use real NASA design spacesuits? Hmm. Was it A, space cowboys, B, lost in space, or C, Armageddon? 98.

A, space cowboys. B, lost in space. C, Armageddon. Armageddon was such a silly movie, would they? Did have a lot of money in it, though. That's true. They got a lot of money. Who wasn't lost in space?

Wasn't, what, wasn't like Matt LaBlanc in that? Yes, Matt LaBron. I think he was. What's her face from Party of Five? Lacey, I think, right? Oh, she was the kid. Wasn't she? Am I thinking of the right actor?

Okay. All right. I'm not going to overthink it because it is not leading me in the right place. I'm just going just gut reaction. Yeah. All right. Karen and Colin both shows C. That is correct.

Yes, they got money. Yeah. That was actually the 100th highest grossing film in your 100th episode. Oh. Fascidentally. Lost in Space has the distinction of being the movie that replaced Titanic as number one. Oh, no way. Really?

I had to dig a lot to convince myself that really happened three or four different places to make sure but that would have been after like a year right I mean yeah five months yeah and then someone had to do it and then Space Cowboy did not come out in 1998

that was why I was which one was Space Cowboys that was scratching some part of my brain but I couldn't that was the Jim Erykoy album Clint Eastwood Tommy Lee Jones old men going up The old guys going back up in space, right? Okay. Oh, wow.

Well done. You both got that one. Yes, well done. Number 10, which song from Weird Al Yankovic's Hamilton Polka is from the second act of the musical? Oh, my goodness. You get some sports questions. Karen, get some music questions. I can't complain.

Which song from Weird L. Yankovic's Hamilton Polka is from the. second act of the musical is it a wait for it b guns and ships or c washington on your side all right i'm just gonna maybe my knowledge of american history might help me here we'll see okay interesting okay so we have split this one karen says a wait for it and colin says b guns and ships so we're going to start with the correct answer, which is Washington on your side. So wait for it is not in the Hamilton polka. But guns and ships is, it's just from the first act of the musicals. So unfortunately, Karen, that drops you down a point.

So we now have another one point game with two to go. I've been upgraded to the wrong answer and I'll take it. Wow. Yep. Okay. Question 11. Who was the first female athlete depicted on a Wheaties box? Was it A. Mary Lou Retton.

B. Babe Diddrickson Zaharius. Or C. Gail Sayers. How are you defining athlete? One who plays a sport? Why would you concur that that is? is how we defined athlete. Yeah. I have no notes.

Colin, we talked about this recently, too. I think the first woman was like an aviator and not an athlete. Can we go through the choices again? Sure. Is A, Mary Lou Retton, B, Babe Didrickson Zaharius, or C, Gail Sayers. What's the impossible? It's like, is the impossible that they're non-athlethorpe? or is the impossible they're not on a Wheaties box?

I know what the impossible one is, Karen. Why? All right, answers? No. All right. Colin says A. A. Mary Louretton. Karen says B. Babe Digginson Zaharius. From what I could find, the correct answer is B.

Bade Digginson's Sarris. Betrayed by my own course. Colin, do you want to tell Karen why? C is the impossible answer? C is impossible because Gail Sayers, among many other things, is notably not a woman. Yes. He was an accomplished NFL player.

And Karen, you're right. There was a woman who appeared as a couple who was an aviator who did appear first. But not an athlete. Not an athlete. And Dave Diedrickson to Harrius excelling in multiple sports. She could have been on the box for any number of sports. Do you want an auxiliary question to guess which sport she actually was playing on the Wheaties box?

I'm going to guess golf, yeah. It was actually basketball. Oh, okay. All right. Going into our final question, the score is Karen for Colin two. Oh, man. Which means the best you can do, Colin is a tie here if Karen guesses the impossible answer and you get this correct. Right.

So here is an honor. of the 300th episode. When predicting in episode 200, what would happen in episode 300? Who was expected to appear as a hologram?

Wow. A, was it Michael Jackson? B, was it your children? Or C, was it Tupac Shakur? So when predicting in episode 200, of good job brain what would happen in episode 300 who was expected to appear as a hologram a michael jackson b your children c tupac Shakur okay it's like who made this joke

i think it was a karen joke okay i don't know if that helps me or not all right well whatever here we go oh boy i can tell you that one of you does have the impossible answer. I'm sure it's me. So Karen said C, Tupac, and Colin said A, Michael Jackson. So B, your children was the incorrect answer. You said, Colin, that your children would be hosting episode of 300. Yep. The correct answer is Tupac Shakur, which means that Karen gets the point for that. And the impossible is Michael Jackson, which means Colin, sadly, on a quiz that is half sports. Karen gotcha. Yeah. Congratulations, Karen. You have one impossible. It wasn't half sports. It felt half sports. It's like a quarter sports. I mean, if I can't capitalize on Karen missing a Hamilton question, I really have no business. Yeah, atop the podium, to be honest. So that's our special quiz for y'all.

Oh, that was fun. Thank you. Yeah. God, my heart is racing. I'm like sweating. The mining, mining our own pass for questions is just, it's just so devious, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's on brand for me, yeah. And definitely if you have the streaming Amazon Prime, GoFide, Impossible Runs on a constant. Oh, great. You can watch it at any time on Prime. The format's a little more complicated, but it is fantastic game show. Yeah, it's way, it's fast-paced.

They have a lot of different. contestants that you don't see in America, like there will regularly be deaf contestants, blind contestants, contests in wheelchairs. It's just, it's very common on that show. And when they have disabled people, they make accommodations and they show them to you. So you'll see the interpreter. We are really obsessed with this show. It's paced so well. Well, that reminds me, Warren and Sarah, like what are some of the shows you're dying to be part of? Beat Shazam. 100% of Beat Shazam. Oh, yeah. Yep. I'm a music teacher. Warren is a music lover, works in a casino where they play music all the time. Yeah, that helps. And we have really different tastes when it comes to music. So we feel that we would rock beat Shazam.

What about you, Colin? Still Jeopardy? Like, I know I would die immediately, but like on American Ninja Warrior. I definitely feel like if I went on American Ninja Warrior, I would become a meme for whatever horrible Which is its own kind of fame This is a good segue The two shows I really want to be on Don't exist anymore

First is where in the world is Carmen San Diego The kids version I just, you know, even if they brought it back And what I'm going to do, I'm not going to time travel back being a kid And the other one was a British game show from the 90s. It's very niche and it's called the Crystal Maze. Let me set the scene. And I've talked about the Crystal Maze before on the show, but I'm going to talk a little bit more.

I'm going to set the scene. I grew up in Taiwan. We kind of just got satellite TV. This is in the 90s. So for the majority of my life then, it was all local Taiwanese TV channels. We didn't get a lot of ink. English language stuff. And at this point in time, the only satellite TV was aimed for like people who lived in Hong Kong or people who lived in India. And so it was a lot of British stuff, including

this one show called The Crystal Maze, hosted by Riff Raff himself, Richard O'Brien from Rocky Horror Picture Show. The show is a team of people solving an escape world. Like, it's not Escape Rooms, it's a collection of rooms in a world. And a lot of kids from the 90s and 80s probably know Legends of the Hidden Temple. It was like a Nickelodeon show. Yes, yes. Kids doing like physical and puzzle challenges in a super themed set, Aztec theme. Indiana Jonesy kind of.

Yes. Yeah. Crystal Maze is four of those. There's an Aztec world. There's a medieval world, a future world. And depending on which season is, there's like an ocean, like Titanic World. The whole show is just these team of regular people, each person gets assigned like what task you want to play. It's like, oh, I want to do a physical task.

So Richard O'Brien would lead you through this amazing set, lead you to a room and say, you have two minutes. And this one person goes in, they have to do whatever challenges in front of them. So it could be like an obstacle course. It could be solving like a logic puzzle. The whole object of the game is if you complete your task in two minutes or two minutes to 30 seconds, you get a Christmas. And the crystal represents five seconds. At the end of the episode, you see how many crystals you have. And that's how many seconds you get to spend in the crystal dome, this geometric dome.

And then they turn on fan and all of these tickets start flying around and your whole team has to grab the right ones and stuff them in a box. And at the end, if you like grab X amount, then you win, you might win like a hotter balloon ride. it's like the prizes don't really matter but like that's it's just high octane is so intense can you imagine me as an 11 year old I'm like oh my god this is my life's dream I mean I was also old enough and smart enough to be like yeah there's no way that I can get casted for a game show in England right until the year is 2025 just one month ago one month ago I I had to go to Europe and I had a stop in London and I didn't have a lot of free days. And I looked up, what stuff can I do in London? And I was like, oh, maybe I'll do like a escape room. Maybe I'll do like a watch a show or something. And then I saw I got targeted the Crystal Mays live experience.

And they essentially now recreated the Crystal Maze, which lives in my dreams. Like I have to say, you know, like little kids, little kids dream of a lot of things. I don't be an astronaut. I would do this. I literally would go to sleep and dream of doing specific crystal maze tasks. And I would relive how would I do it? Such a Karen story. Oh, man.

And then now I'm like, oh my God, I can pay to experience the crystal maze. You must have audibly screamed when you saw that. I'm just trying to picture you at the moment you're seeing that I can go do this as a grown up and all the reviews were like just like the TV show and so of course I was like this kind of stuff is more fun with friends so I went to our good job brain lobe trotters facebook fan group hey anybody live in London anybody want to do this with me and yes Michael and his partner Pieric yeah we live in London let's do this let's have a let's have a fun day together entire time between me buying the tickets and until we got like that's all I could think about

And this is in central London. They gutted a building and they completely transformed it into the four worlds and different rooms. You do get like a game host. They're all dressed in like historical figures. He's a Caesar the geyser. He was explaining the rules and he's like, you know what? Hey guys, average team, they get like six crystals. That's good enough to go do the ticket thing in the crystal dome.

Our goal is to get more. And you know, I believe in you guys. Average is six crystals. We got 14. I would do rooms in like 15 seconds, like I would complete the task. It's exactly like the TV show. Like, for example, and, you know, we're in the medieval world, and I think Michael had a, like, a mental task. And he went to a room and the room is completely decked out like a medieval feast, like a dining banquet hall.

The puzzle was you had these, like seats at the table, like a logic puzzle. You have to figure out who's sitting where. You put the name plates on the table setting. it's so cool there was another one in space where i did a physical challenge and it was like a laser like an obstacle laser a course that like climbed through and do like spy stuff you were like literally born for this care yes and at the end we we obliterated their record and i was in tears all of us to say thank you to whoever made the crystal maze but thank you michael pierrick who took a chance to come play this with me with a random stranger who is on a podcast that you listen

to. I've been waiting to tell the story for such a long time. I'm like getting, I'm like emotional just talking about it. I wish everybody can get to live out their dream. Yeah, that pinnacle of something that you literally dreamed about, fell asleep thinking of. Thank you for being my therapist, everybody. Oh my gosh. On to the next chapter. Now you have to come up with a new dream. But you were talking about game shows, and I was thinking about current game shows

that I wanted to be on, but I forgot there was... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. An old show. I used to watch the show's Sale of the Century when I was going to say. Oh, yeah. What is that?

So the three contestants would start with like $20 in their bank, and it was like a quiz show. At intervals during the game, they would stop, and they would offer you these deep, that you could pay for with your points. Oh. So you could buy, like, actual cash for a lot.

You buy, like, $600 in cash for, say, seven points. So then you're looking in there, like, do I want to spend my points? Like, where am I at? And I thought the interplay of that was always fascinating to me. And then they would have, like, a speed round at the end. The pacing of it was very fast and trying to decide if I would spend my money on things like that depending on it was it was i haven't thought about that one in a while but as soon as you said it i remember that one too it's certainly the uh the the universe of trivia based shows is much

bigger than it used to be uh like when we were kids there's no question thankfully yeah i got to make money somehow yeah let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with more game show stuff Listening to Good Job Brain. Smooth puzzles. Smart trivia. Good job, brain. And we're back.

It's time for another game show segment. And I've prepared this. I even have a special intro. Let's take a listen. This is the game we're about to play. Here it is. Today, one of these lucky contestants will win his or her weight in fish Right here on Wheel of Day

Okay, let's play the game Welcome, everybody, we're going to play Wheel of Fish Of course, a fake game show from Weird Al's movie masterpiece, UHF Quick summary, Weird Al, he plays a guy who is trying to save a small, like, TV station. Him and his friends come up with these crazy TV ideas. Example, Wheel of Fish. And so I figured I'd make that game show real. And we today, Warren, Sarah and Colin can play Wheel of Fish.

Karen, this is my lifelong dream. I used to often fall asleep, you know, thinking, how would I play Wheel of Fish? What would happen when I get the Red Snapper on the wheel? Well, it is Wheel of Fish. You know, we have to have a wheel of fish. Oh, no. Because that's kind of the title of this game show. So I spent 10 hardworking minutes and I made.

Oh, yeah. A wheel of fish. Colin, do you want to describe to listeners what we're looking at? Karen, very high level of craft as always, and she's spinning it. On each pie wedge is a different fish, and it has like the little, you know, pointer clicker thing at the top. Again, I mean, just truly incredible piece of prop work and stagecraft, Karen. Excellent. So in this trivia game, each one of you will spin the wheel.

you'll land on a fish and it has a category and you're going to get a trivia question, which is in that category, all about fish. So here are our categories. All right. We have reel it in, reel it in. This is a rass and sunglasses. It's about fish in movies. We have stay in school, which is a salmon wearing a graduation cap all about kind of like more trivia and more like learning, educatey questions about fish. We have red herring, which is a fish wearing a groucho marks, a nose and glasses. And these are questions that are about animals that are not fish, but fish adjacent. And finally, we, of course, have Red Snapper. The category is called Very Tasty, and it's a Red Snapper with a chef's hat, and that's about fish in food. But you know what? I know the wheel is kind of cool, but it's not fun because you guys don't get to spin it,

right you know we're all separated in different places and i'm the one with the wheel so what if you guys actually get to have a wheel of fish well after spending those 10 hardworking minutes making this wheel then i spent an hour and i coded a virtual fish wheel for you guys to spin and it is live right now on the good job brain site oh excellent you can find it on good job com slash wheel dash of dash fish oh my gosh oh it's excellent an hour and 10 minutes of Karen's time is like eight hours for any of the rest of us this is great am I a coder not really who's up first let's do Warren you're up first please sounds good the wheel all right good heart spin from slowing down I am in red herring red herring red her Here's your question, Warren.

On the hit reality show, Deadliest Catch. What animal are they catching in the Bering Sea? Again, the question is, on the hit reality show, Deadliest Catch. Turns out they're not catching fish. What animal are they catching in the Bering Sea? Oh, Lord. Oh, boy, not a show I watch, but... Come on, Marilyn, boy.

Yeah, stop it I was going to say Since they're in Alaska I was going to assume that they were catching King Crab would have been my answer Yeah I should have like bubble sounds Well done

Crabby dance Crabt, crappie hands Crap claps, yes it is crap Sometimes it's king craps Sometimes it's not But it is craps And one of the most dangerous professions is being a crab fisherman.

Good work. All right. Sarah, it's your turn to spin the wheel of fish. I love the reel it in fish the most. He's rainbow colored with sunglasses. Oh, and that's what I got. Reel it in. Reel it in.

I need to set a timer for this. Oh, okay. Hold on. And you have a challenge. All right. Sarah, your question. You have 20 seconds. All right.

To name me. five animated feature films with fish characters here you go okay finding nemo finding dory pinocchio and the incredible mr limpet and um um the aristic cats maybe the aristic cats i don't know maybe not okay okay there's got to be Well, I mean, there might be a fish in Euristakast. Little Mermaid. Moana has the stingrays. Ponyo.

Yeah, yeah. Good ones. It's very on brand for me to get the incredible Mr. Olympit and miss the Little Mermaid. All right, Colin, give it a spin. We'll spin it good. We are looking at, we got real. Reel it in.

Reel it in. All right. Here we go. Your question is, What fly fishing movie takes place in Missoula, Montana, and stars Brad Pitt? Oh. Oh, okay. That is a river runs through it.

Correct. Woo. If I didn't give you the Brad Pitt clue, would you have gotten it? Ooh, that would have been tough. Maybe. I mean, if I wasn't on the clock, maybe. Side note. Missoula, Montana, one of my favorite places in the country.

You've said that before, yeah. Beautiful city. Please visit. All right, Warren, your turn to spin the wheel. Off we go. Very tasty. Very tasty. Aki and saltfish is the national dish of what Caribbean nation?

Aki, that's A-C-E and saltfish, is the national. national dish of what Caribbean nation? I am going to just play it safe and hope it's Jamaica. It is Jamaica. Oh, all right. Do you guys know what Aki is? No. Acki is a berry.

It's similar to leechi or lichy, and it's completely toxic if you eat it raw. But when you cook it, it tastes like scrambled eggs. Huh. Interesting. Isn't that wild? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's like, hey, my cousin ate this and they died. But if you cook it.

You know what? I mean, that's the human spirit, Karen. Yeah, absolutely. Every, and I mean every, every single thing on this planet, someone has ingested at some time or another. I can't, I mean, now I'm like, I need to eat the scrambled eggs berry. Like, I just, I happen to. I find a Jamaican restaurant in the area, which.

I'm sure we have some. Then we can go looking. All right, Sarah, your turn. Here we go. Also very tasty. Okay, this is the hardest question. Oh, fun. What type of fish is the most consumed fish in the U.S.

That is by pounds per capita based on a 2022 National Fisheries Institute report and the 2018 National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration. report. Huh. So yes, what type of fish is the most consumed fish in the U.S.? Multiple Choice? I don't name multiple choice, Karen. Oh. Oh, throw it down the fish gauntlet here. I think it's tuna. I think it's tuna fish. Tuna's number two. Oh, no. Two for tuna. I know. This is very shocking. So here, well, here the multiple choice. Is it salmon, tilapia, or pollock?

I think out of those three I'll just go with the cheapest, least interesting tasting fish of the three because it could stand in for basically any other fish, which is going to be a pollock. The correct answer is salmon. Isn't that shocking? That's really surprising. I know a lot of people who don't like salmon at all. I had to double check this. The other fish are like any kind of white fish you can turn into fish sticks.

Yeah, that's kind of the angle I was thinking made sense too. yeah but salmon maybe because it's like a big animal what is is it in and pounds or in dollars because salmon's way more expensive than the others by pounds per capita huh interesting this shows up in trivia and they say it's tuna or they say it's something else no it is salmon based on these sources yeah I definitely had that trivia question at some point and it was tuna but it must have been before worldwide. Tuna's number one worldwide.

Okay, okay. Of course we have to be different. Yeah, yeah. All right. Colin, spin that wheel. Goes fast at first. Here we go. Okay.

Got red herring. Red herring. Okay. At the Trevi Fountain in Rome, you can see the sculpture of Poseidon next to a mythical creature that has a horse head and torso and a fish

tail. What is it called? Again, at the Trevi Fountain in Rome, you can see the sculptor of Poseidon next to a mythical creature that has a horse upper body like a horse head and a torso and a fish tail.

Right. What is this creature called? Oh, I'm sure you've had this in one of your Fantastic Beast quizzes. Yeah, I'm sure you have. Is it, is it, is it, is it, is it hippo something? Does it start with hippo? It is hippo something. Okay. Okay. Is it like a, a hippo lanth or something like that? I don't know. Oh, you're so close. It is a hippo campus.

Oh. Hippo campus. It might sound familiar because a hippo camp is what a seahorse is called in French. That's the French word for seahorse. But also, makes a thing like, oh, isn't there something in our brain that's called the hippocampus? It is because that thing in our brain looks like a sea horse. That is great trivia. It's fantastic. All right. Well, I'll award myself half points for that one. Oh, okay.

Last round of Wheel of Fish. Warren, give it a spin. All right. Come on. Bye, Val. Oh, wait, wrong show. No whamies. No whamies.

Oh, she'll sell you a Val. It is stay in school. Stay in school. All right. Sharks, rays, and skates are classified under the class Condrick These. I'll spell it C-H-O-N-D-R-I-C-H-T-H-Y-E-S, Condricthes.

And they all share what defining characteristic. Sharks, Rays, and skates are classified under the class conjcthies. they all share what defining characteristic that's not like cute like a very unique thing about these animals

and their bodies share the characteristic that I want to pet them I feel like it is something with their their dental structure maybe like the shape of their

mouths that's probably crazy but i'll say anyway like the protrusion of their upper jaw as opposed to the lower jaw oh like overbyte versus yeah kind of like that they all have cartilage instead of bones oh okay conjuric these is the greek term for for basically for cartilage they're all cartilaginous fish cartilaginous fish cartil cartilaginish cartil Cartilage fish. Yes, they don't have bones. They have cartilage. Only cartilage.

I did not know sharks were like that. Now I know. Yeah. All right. Sarah, your last spin? All right. So I have stay in school. Before the time when gelatin was mass produced and accessible, people used what?

A form of collagen derived from fish swim bladders. Ew. Yes, it is. It's totally ew. There's a very kind of Lord of the Rings-ish name for this thing. Oh, man. I'm going to say I do not know this. So I'm going to go with fish pectin.

Ooh. Ooh, I like that. Yeah. It's called Eisenglass. Eisenglass. Eisenglass. I vaguely heard of that. Actually, they use this to make gelatinous foods, but mostly to clarify beer.

Mm-hmm. The Eisenglass would become gelatinous. And so just sink at the bottom and bring all the impurities with them down. So that the beer is clear up top. Yeah, it turns out that fish fax, not my strongest. We're all learning. Stay in school. Yep.

Colin, spin that wheel. I got reel it in. Good old reel it in. What do you got for me? Your last question. The name Madison. Yes. Like a person's name Madison.

Yes. Madison. Let me stop you right there. Okay. I bet I know where you're going with this. Okay. Is the answer to your question, the movie Splash? Yes.

Oh my God. Yes. Wow. Colin, that's incredible. You know, Slumdog Millionaire Moment, Karen. Just within the last week, I was talking with two of my phone-loving friends about how I was like, you know, getting my trivia hat on. Like, did you know this movie is considered to be the catalyst for the name Madison

becoming a popular first name? First name. Right, exactly. First name. Because Darrell Hannah's character in the movie, you know, names herself after Madison Avenue, New York City, right. It's played for a big joke in the movie because it's like, oh, what a weird first name. And like, you're watching it from a 2025 perspective.

And you're like, okay, yeah, Madison, sure, right? What's the problem? Yes. So many Madison's. Yeah, because you're like, what an idiot naming them after Madison Avenue. And it's like, oh, how many madisons are in this incoming preschooler class? Yes. Great quiz, Karen. That was Wheel of Fish. Thank you, everybody, for playing. Amazing. In a follow-up thing, I just learned probably mostly interesting to Colin as the sports guy. But I read an article that said that all the jailings we have now in the world are. are all from Jalen Rose. That's amazing. I mean, I've seen the chart of Shaquille's,

and that's maybe not as surprising. So it turns out that Jalen is a portmanteau, named after his uncle James, no, his uncle Leonard and his father James. So Jay Leonard. Wow. Wow. Because we can't even get through like five minutes

without finding out a fact. So you have it. So yeah, Jalen comes from James, Leonard, Jalen. I was not expecting to go this deep on Jalen Rose and our game show. You never know. I was listening to an earlier episode of the show. In fact, it was Good Job Brain episode 197 titled Let's Make a Deal.

And on that show, which was about, you know, deals kind of more broadly, Karen, you had a great game show quiz. And I started listening to the show just to make sure I hadn't talked about something. and I ended up listening to a big, huge chunk of it. So you had a great quiz about game shows, which did not, as it turns out, have any questions about the actual show name. Let's Make a Deal, right, which Chris pointed out, of course. Let's Make a Deal was one of my favorite game shows as a kid,

the original one. I know they've rebooted it at least once. Warren, you hit on it. For me, the game shows as a kid was when I would stay homesick from school because we didn't have cable in my family. and like it was just me or maybe me and my sister and our favorites were prices right and let's make a deal so the original let's make a deal it was kind of a kooky atmosphere it was still sort of a shaggy feeling show

at this course about prizes but the way you got to the prizes was like they'd offer you this and it's like oh are you willing to trade this like let's make a deal you know like a very common sort of recurring thing was you're part of the way through a challenge and the host offers you money basically to bail out you know like how confident are you of you're going to finish? What are the people doing? Like are they just doing different little games and tasks or is it trivia? It's kind of like mini games.

And many, if not most of the contestants, would wear like just random crazy costumes because it was one of those shows where you would basically get plucked out of the audience to participate. So you wanted to stand out. Let's Make a Deal was hosted by the late great Monty Hall. And Monty Hall was just such a pro at the audience. audience interaction, very much in command of the show. And in the spirit of the name, let's make a deal.

Like, as a kid, what I loved is the gimmick he would do is he would, you know, when he's canvassing the audience, he would make these little spot challenges. Like, I'll give you $50 if you happen to have a hard boiled egg on you, you know, like just like random, random stuff like this. And over time, people started learning like, well, you better load up with just a bunch of crazy crap in your jacket or, you know, because. You might get asked, like, for the Ace of Spades or a hard-boiled egg, you know? Or, like, you know, it's like...

I used to carry an oboe read around in my first... Because you never know, right? Monty Hall might offer me $50 for it. Exactly. Yeah. So that was my favorite angle of the show. But there was a very common bit they did on the show where it was, like, three doors. And there's one good thing behind one of the doors and two bad things behind the other two doors, right?

Undesirable, let's say. So in addition to the joy that Monty Hall brought me as a viewer, he lent his name to one of my very favorite thought experiments, I don't know, maybe more of a brain teaser called the Monty Hall problem. It wasn't formulated on the show, but it became famous because of him presenting it on the game show, Let's Make a Deal. So the basic premise very quickly, he pulls you out, you know,

okay, here's three doors, A, B, and C. There's a car behind one, there's a goat behind the other two, right? So you pick your door, so you pick door A. And then Monty Hall would say, in this scenario, he would say, all right, you can keep your door, you can keep whatever's behind door A, but I'm going to open up door B and show you that behind door B is a goat. Now, do you want to change your answer?

Do you want to pick door C instead, or do you want to stick with door A and hope you try and get the car, right? All right. So the Monty Hall problem, the brain teaser, the logic puzzle is, are you better off switching your choice of doors, or are you better off keeping your original choice statistically? And it is counterintuitive for a lot of people care. Is it not 50-50? It is counterintuitive for a lot of people. This question, I just want to make very clear, can cause fights and families. It can cause you to walk out of a date. I mean, so just be careful where you deploy the Monty Hall problem. It really became famous after a question was published in Parade Magazine in 1990. And in 1990, as she still does, Marilyn Vos Savant wrote a column

for Parade Magazine called Ask Marilyn. Who is Marilyn Vos Savant if you don't know? She was the last person to hold the Guinness record for highest IQ recorded. They retired the category. They don't do it anymore for a variety of reasons. She's a very, very smart woman. She's been writing this column forever. And someone wrote in, suppose you're on a game show and you're given the choice of three doors.

Behind one door is a car, behind the others, goats. You pick a door. And the host who knows what's behind the other doors opens another door, which has a goat. He says, do you want to pick door number two? Is it to your advantage to switch? Her answer, very confidently, very straightforwardly, was, yes, you should switch to the other door. You will have a two-third chance of winning the car if you switch to the other door, whereas keeping your initial choice, you only have a one-third chance of winning the car.

A lot of people did not believe her. Many thousands of people wrote letters in like, no, you're wrong, you're giving bad advice. many educated people people who had advanced degrees in mathematics wrote in convinced they were right no you're wrong and she stuck by her guns she's like no I'm not wrong

she had multiple follow up columns about this clearing the air it still it still generates controversy whatever this comes up anywhere people will stick to their guns like no it's not right it doesn't matter it's 50-50 because it's either behind the door or it's not it's 50-50

all right let me state a few conditions here because this becomes a point of contention among people arguing about it. In this scenario of the three doors you pick one, the host must always open a door that you did not choose, okay? Okay. And behind that door must always be the bad prize. We'll call it the goat in this scenario. Okay. So the host is never going to open the door and show you the car. And further, the last point is that the host always has to give you the chance to choose between your original and the closed. Now, it would take too long to really walk you through all the scenarios here. You have to trust me, this is correct. And the way that convinced

me the first time I ever heard this is, let's think about it as a car, a red goat, and a blue goat. Karen, you have your hand up. Yeah. I was like, I don't believe you. I'm going to write this down. And then I was like, oh, go A and Go B. They're not the same goats. Everyone can kind of find their way into this differently. For me, that was the breakthrough, was imagining two different goats. So real quickly, all right, let's say cars behind door A. All right. So I picked the car. I picked door A. And then

that means there's red goat and blue goat behind the other two doors. So the host opens the door and I see blue goat. And it's like, do you want to switch? And I say, yes, I'll switch. So I switch and I choose the door that has red goat. So I messed up. I lost the car that time. All right. Next

scenario. Let's say I choose the blue goat at first. And the host is like, all right, I'm going to open up the door, and he shows me the red goat. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to switch now. So I'm switching from the blue goat to the car. I win. Then the third scenario, if I choose the red goat first, he offers me the chance to switch, shows me the blue goat door. I switch and I win the car. So out of the three scenarios, in two of them, if I switch, I win the car. And one of them, if I switch, I mess up. People were so mad. As I say, she had to write multiple follow-ups. And in defense of some of the mad people,

she did not specifically outline those three points that I mentioned, like one that the host has to show you the other bad door, has to give you the chance, et cetera. Don't feel bad if you refuse to believe this is the case, that is 50-50. You can try it at home. Get out some cards or like a shell game. Have a loved one.

I mean, a currently loved one. Run this little experiment with you where they know which are the two. bad ones and which is the good one. And you will see, you really will see, if you do a large enough sample size that two-thirds of the time, thereabouts, you're going to be better off switching than staying. So you may have heard about the Monty Hall problem. You may have had fights about it. What was new to me when I was researching this little bit for the show, I never had seen this before. But apparently in 1991, so I mean, not long after the initial, you know, if you're here. Montiagal himself weighed in on this problem in an interview with the New York Times.

And so he totally got what the whole thing was about. He understood. He's like, yep, he's like, that's right. He said, you know, the thing to keep in mind is that on the show, I had freedom to do whatever I wanted. He was not bound to open the door. He was not bound to give the person the chance to switch. He often would, usually would, but he would also sometimes mix in things like, you know, I'll offer you $500 if you, you know, so Monty Hall ultimately, though, was unambiguous. He said, quote, if the host is required to open the door all the time and offer you a switch, then you should take the switch. So that's right from the horse's mouth, Monty Hall himself. And if you don't believe him on this, you know, I don't know what to tell you. That's my little bit about

shoehorning the, the Monty Hall three-door problem. into a game show episode. So glad I could get that off my chest. And if you lose a car on a game show, please do not get in touch with me. Send your letters to Marilyn Vosavant, Kara, Parade magazine. I think the goat thing is interesting to me

because I work in a casino and I mainly deal with craps. It is an interesting study how many people do not understand. understand the odds because they do not understand that the dice are rolling independently. Yeah. Yes. It's partially

us because when we call rolls, we'll call the total but we'll always say the bigger number first. That's part of this. I love that. I love the little inside craps knowledge.

All right. To end this show, I have one last game showy segment. Game shows are great. They're Also, very close to competition shows where people win money. I want to talk about the winningest or people with the highest net worth coming out of reality competition shows. Who ended up really winning? It's not really a quiz. Maybe we can guess.

And my source is Celebrity Net Worth. Let's dive into some of our biggest talent shows, competition shows, reality shows. So American Idol, who do you think is the person with the highest? Networth who came out of American Idol. Did, did, did, did Kelly Clarkson come out of that show? Am I, am I correct? Yeah. Okay.

I mean, she's, she's the first one who comes to my mind. I'm not super, super familiar with this show. You don't have to be a winner of the show. And didn't one of the, didn't one of the contestants like end up a Lambert, isn't he like singing for queen, right? He is. Yeah. Okay.

And then you got Jennifer Hudson. That was a lot of course. She has an Oscar and a talk show. Yeah. Jennifer Hudson also produced a lot of theater shows. Right. Broadway shows, too. Interesting.

I can't really forget Carrie Underwood, although I don't know how high she's on the list. She is number one. Wow. Gordon. Carrie Underwood, $120 million net worth, mostly from her music career. Right. Tours, album sales. Yeah, Carrie Underwood really ticks the cake.

All right. Do we remember anything about X Factor? either British version or American version. I remember Susan Boyle. Oh, wow. There's a name from the past. That's Britain's got talent. Oh, she has been in the same show for me.

X Factor. I'll tell you. X Factor. If you can name anybody in the band, Fifth Harmony, anybody. Uh, no. Camila Cabello. Oh, okay. Singer of Havana and other things.

She's probably the highest net worth coming out of X Factor U.S. And of course, X Factor UK, probably the most successful person is Harry Stiles in the long direction. And apparently a legit marathon runner, right, Taryn? Yes, yes. He ran the Berlin Marathon under a pseudonym and really ran it. Oh, wow. He ran it fast. Let's hear the voice.

It's so funny because to me, the voice is such a high production show, but there's no really big names that came out of it. And I think the closest we have is Morgan Wallen, country singer. Oh, Morgan Wallen. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Back to God's country, Morgan Wallen. He did not win, but he sells a lot of records.

Yeah. Do we remember where Amy Schumer? Yeah. That's last comic standing. Yeah, yeah. Did not win either. And here, our last show. Okay, this is the time before the Internet, the time before, like, you know, most of our

pop culture was from. three channels of TV, and Star Search was such a big deal. It's like, we didn't have Instagram. Like, this is how you became famous with Star Search. It seems like such a more innocent time. Star Search had a couple of categories. We had female vocal, male vocal, group vocal. Then you have, like, the younger version, junior vocals.

There's also comedians. There's some spokesmodel. I'm just going to read out a list of celebrities who came out of Star Search. Brad Garrett, Ray Romano, Billy Porter. Broadway star Alia Conan O'Brien Britney Spears

Christian Aguilera Backstree boys Broadway royalty also Sutton Foster Usher Alanis Adam Sandler Wow

Wow But can you guess who is the most successful person who came out of Star Search More successful than any of those names I can only name one other person

that you didn't name so I'm gonna hope that it's it's her which is Rosie O'Donnell Ooh she did very good too. But this person is more successful than Adam Sandler. She's a billionaire.

Is it? Oh, is it Ellen DeGeneres? It is Beyoncé. Oh, really? Before Destin's Child, she was in a group called Girls' Time when she was younger, and they come in the group vocal division. That's cool, trivia.

Well, good job, Beyonce. Congratulations on your success. And Sorcerge. Hope it translates. Yeah. Well, that is our game show extravaganza, and we have a couple of winners here. Let me tally up the points that don't really exist. And our winners are Sarah and Horace.

You get a real bona fide game show prize. And the prize is I will donate $1,000 to. your nonprofit charity or group of your choosing. So that is your prize. Sarah, I think you've already decided on where to give the money to. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to split that money up to two different charities. Both I think represent us pretty well and what we are about. So the first one's going to be Gender and Sexualities Alliance, which I was a teacher. I do have mentor quite a few kids who are LGBTQ plus plus plus this is an organization that works with gay youth and helps them advocate for themselves organized to fight bullying and harassment and violence so it's a charity that helps

kids and will hopefully help future generations through their hard work so that's that's the first one that's that's the Sarah charity and so Warren's charity will be World Central Kitchen oh Jose Andres yeah we love Jose And We're based in D.C. And Zatina is one of our favorite, favorite, favorite restaurants. Anytime someone comes to town, that's where we go. His charity is incredible. World Central Kitchen is just phenomenal.

They are currently making one million meals a day in Gaza to support. That's going to be Warren's charity. And we thank you for allowing us to choose and to use this as a way to do good in the world. Oh, my pleasure. It's related to game shows. because the Good Job Brain Charity Fund is completely funded by my win on the chase. So it's all game show related at the end. So thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having us. Yes. Thank you so much. Yeah. We actually, our whole relationship has been the length of the time you've been filming this podcast. Or taping the podcast. So we have listened to every episode and we've been together for 15 years now. Well, we can't stop with what you're saying.

Yeah, like you're just going to have to pass it on to your kids. Well, that's our show. Thank you all for joining me and thank you listeners for listening and hope you learned stuff today about things that are impossible, about the Monty Hall problem, and about fish. You can find us on all major podcast apps and on our website Goodtrobbering.com. This podcast is part of Airwave Media Podcast Network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like Reach a space podcast for kids, our friends at Triviality. and Queen's podcast. And we'll see you next week.

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