Good Job, Brain! - 307: We're Back in the Red Again
Episode Date: May 7, 2026Pinkies up for some vexillology tea in "Girl... He's a Red Flag" quiz. Jam out to some red & wild facts at Karen's strawberry trivia festival.* Chris has a red title quiz, and Colin's got us unearthin...g red roots in an etymology challenge. Special mystery guest and GJB listener Sarah Burch joins us this week and shares an incredible tale of how she might have cost a certain company millions of dollars. ALSO: child actor quiz *If you get this niche 90's reference upon first reading, I love you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and Offi trivia podcast.
This is episode 307.
Of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your red shirts ready to red line red herrings on Reddit.
I'm Colin.
And I'm Chris.
And today we have a special guest, special guest, Sarah.
please say hi to everybody Sarah
Well hey guys I'm Sarah
I'm so excited to be joining
all of you awesome people on this podcast today
I have been listening to Good Job Brain
for a long time for me
though not as long as the podcast
has been going on
I used to commute from LA to Orange County
which is insane
so I would listen to lots of podcasts on the way
and I fell in love with you guys
in general I quite like trivia
but I am also quite bad at it
so I like it when it feels successful.
I'm into like being outside and doing outdoorsy things.
And then I have two kids who are my chaos agents that are just very fun and exhausting at the same time, like you guys know.
Absolutely.
Girl.
Sarah's here.
She is a special guest, but also a kind of a secret guest.
She has a very good reason for being in this episode.
And we're not going to tell you what that is.
is until later. So stay tuned. And with all that talk, let's jump into our first general
trivia segment, pop quiz, hot shot. Here I have plucked two random trivial pursuit cards out of a
12 pound box. Oh, I haven't seen this design before. Genus two. I don't know.
Yeah. The sequel to Trivial Pursuit, pretty old. I have some Genus two cards.
Karen, you'll laugh. Some of them are weird, man. Some of the questions are out there. So I'm looking
forward to this one. Let's go. As we have been watching Jeopardy, it dawned on me last night or a couple
of nights ago that there are so many Jeopardy questions now that I know the answer to that will
completely stump the whole, all the contestants because it's only something you would know if you
were old. And it's like, it's like, oh, they show a picture of the smothers bruntlets.
And they're like, who are they?
I'm like, it's the mother's brothers.
They were on TV all the time in the 80s, which I guess for the 20-something year old people
on Jeopardy is like knowing things about like the 40s, you know, it's like, oh, right,
hmm, interesting.
I had that thought the other day when we used to play pub trivia together in person at a bar.
We were in our late 20s, up until, you know, mid 30s.
And our friend team, that we were.
the other team in the circuit, obviously a generation or half a generation older.
Yes.
And I'm like, man, they know everything.
Like, how are you knowing all this stuff?
Right.
And you're kind of like, oh, man, these old dudes.
And now I'm like, oh, where are the old dudes now?
They were cresting then in terms of like the peak range of knowledge you might be asked at a pub quiz, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's Junis two.
Anyway, anyway.
The other card is probably a little.
bit more current as a palette cleanser,
trivia pursue R&R
singles. So,
buzzers. Sarah is our special guest.
She also prepared a buzzer.
Please, please share your buzzer
with everybody, Sarah.
Oh, boy. And what is that?
What kind of hellhound is that, Sarah?
Yeah, it is your standard
internet screaming goat.
Yeah, I love it.
All right, let's pick our poison.
Let's do genus two first.
Buzzers at the ready.
Here we go.
Blue Wedge for Geography.
What two continents had only 18 fully independent countries between them at the end of World War II?
18.
Okay.
I think that means like not a colonial power.
Okay, Chris.
Europe and Asia?
Asia's right.
Oh.
Asia and Africa?
It's just Asia and Africa.
Wow.
All right.
Pink Wedge for entertainment.
Who wrote the words and music to I Love Paris?
Hmm.
Chris?
Gershwin.
You know, you're in the right camp.
Okay.
All right.
Irving Berlin.
Also, very good guest.
Cole Porter.
Okay.
All right.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys were looking the surface.
Mm-hmm.
That's not.
What is scratching?
You're licking the surface.
Oh, I haven't had a good old Karen Chu idiom in a long time.
That takes me back.
All right.
Yellow, yellow for history.
What president's wedding in Newport, Rhode Island,
prompted one observer to note it was just like the coronation.
Oh, Colin.
Is that John F. Kennedy?
It is JFK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brown Wedge for
Arts and Literature
What Shakespeare character tells Ophelia
Get thee to a nunnery
Chris
That is Hamlet
Yes, it is him
It's him in his own play
That is Hamlet
Telling his
Girlfriend
Yeah
Get to a nunnery
All right
Green Wedge for Science and Nature
What unit
Does the metric barometer
Measure atmospheric pressure
in.
Ooh.
Oh, wow, this is hard.
Chris?
Millimetres.
Oh, because you're thinking like the distance.
Nope, no, no, no.
Like named unit.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
There's something, there's something scratching or licking the surface of my brain, if you will,
and I can't, I can't retrieve it.
But I feel like I'm going to say, oh, I know it when you say it.
I mean, it sounds sciencey.
It's kilopascal.
Oh, okay, yeah.
All right.
Last question on this card.
Well, Getus 2 is,
Genus 2.
Yeah, I told you.
I told you.
Okay, Orange Wedge, sports and leisure.
What player's legs has a batter hit the baseball between if it goes through the wickets?
Say that one more time.
I'm sorry.
How do I parse this question?
You know what I mean?
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know I get.
What player's legs?
Yes.
Has a batter hit the baseball between if it goes through the wickets.
what position where the ball goes through their legs and it's called through the wicked answer all right hold on
sarah do you have a guess i'm gonna say catcher but i know we're talking about cricket so i'm fairly sure
that's wrong it's baseball it's baseball they also call it there's a wicked in baseball oh right
metaphorical i'm still gonna go with catcher then uh chris your guess i was gonna say i was going to say the pitcher
it is the pitcher the pitcher nice nice
I can picture it.
Yeah, metaphorically.
Right.
Yeah.
We're strangely worded cards.
That's the problem with reading these live.
I don't know where to break the sentence.
Okay.
Take a deep breath.
Let's get into some R&R singles.
Okay.
Last one.
Here we go.
Blue Wedge.
What Olympic sport gets its name from the Scandinavian word for shoot?
Chris.
It's me.
Luge?
Incorrect.
for the steel
Colin
Skeet?
It is Skeet, it is Skeet, it is
So, do you understand my
confusion?
No.
I was thinking C-H-U-T-E.
Oh, Luge and shoot.
I do get your confusion now.
Pink Wedge,
what British singer's wife
sold her $40,000
bridal gown
to fund a rainforest
charity
What British Singer's wife
sold her $40,000
bridal gown to fund a
rainforest charity?
Huh.
They had a lot of money
when they were married.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
Colin.
Is it Sting?
It is Sting.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
I believe his wife's name is Trudy.
Wow.
Okay.
Trudy Sting.
Oh, yes.
Mrs. Sting.
Oh, yes.
Please.
All right.
Yellow Wedge.
What candy company's butterfinger was renamed the finger for April Foolst Day?
I don't remember that.
That's great.
Wow.
Wow.
Who makes this one?
Okay.
Guess is across the board.
Is it Mars?
Uh, Nestle?
It is.
Nestle.
Yes.
All right.
It says DD for Purple Wedge.
I don't know if that's designated driver, but here we go.
Oh, it could be.
What is the spelling of whiskey if it's been distilled in Scotland or Canada?
That's right. It's with the E or without the E.
With the E or without the E.
Oh, I see. I'll go no E.
Okay.
I'll go E.
It is W. H, I, S, K, Y.
No E.
All right.
Next question, Green Wedge.
What pink hotel is pictured on the album cover of Hotel California by the Eagles?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I mean, okay, Colin.
Is it the Hotel Beverly Hills?
Can you give me the name of this hotel, the proper name of this hotel?
Oh, geez, maybe once upon a time. I don't know. I'm not sure what they're looking for.
So what'd you call it?
The Beverly Hills Hotel, the Hotel Beverly Hills.
Which one?
Oh, oh, okay. I see what you're getting at. Sorry, I thought you were like, oh, you know, the Flamingo or the Hotel Beverly Hills.
It is Beverly Hills Hotel.
Of course.
Famously featured on True Beverly Hills.
I would have given it to him if that was like a wedge.
Hey.
You put me on the spot.
You put me on the spot.
Two L.A. people here.
We got to be a little bit harder with the L.A. questions.
Yeah.
That's all right.
All right.
Last question for Popquist Hot Shot.
Orange Wedge.
What Island's exclusive Waukaya Club was Bill Gates's honeymoon hotel?
W-A-K-A-Y-A.
Wakaya, Wakaya.
What island?
What island's exclusive
Wakaya club
was Bill Gates' honeymoon
hotel. All right.
Ooh.
Island. Okay.
Chris.
Okinawa.
Incorrect.
It does sound Japanese, but it is not.
It is Fiji.
Fiji.
Oh, my gosh.
This is hard.
It's at first you have to know
Fiji's clubs
You have to know
the exclusive club on Fiji
And you have to know Bill Gates's honeymoon
You have to care about personal Bill Gates
Yeah
All right
Good job, Brains
We survived
Those two cards
All right, our special guest Sarah is with us
For this episode
And this episode topic is kind of inspired
By her and we'll get to that a little bit later
this week's episode is the color red.
We did have an episode before around things that are red.
That was such a good episode.
We have more stuff to share today.
So this week, we're back in the red again.
All right.
Well, to get things started, I have a pretty simple, straightforward quiz.
For real, this time.
It is about books and movies and music and television and creative work.
that all have the word red in the title.
Perhaps the question might be a little vague
if you didn't already know something very important
about the answer.
So hopefully this will all work out for you.
It is a buzzin quiz.
So get those buzzers ready.
This is going to be a very interesting round.
I will just jump right in.
Yeah, no, go ahead.
Is it the color red?
It's always the word red.
meaning the color.
R-E-D.
Oh, yes, not scarlet.
Crimson.
Not the scarlet.
Red.
Not red.
All right.
Question one.
This 2022 animated film inspired,
among other things,
an official manga with stories
about its in-universe boy band.
It's so long as well.
I'm sorry.
No.
Sarah, go for it.
Turning red.
It's turning red.
It's turning red.
Be sure to read the manga, Fortown for real.
Fortown, Fortown.
Oh, that's great.
It is legit, excellent.
Very, very good.
Next question.
This Commodore 64 game built as the ultimate submarine combat simulation was based on a
1984 novel.
Karen.
I played this.
I played.
Really?
MS.
Doss.
version,
hunt for the red October.
Oh, I'll give it to you out of the spirit of friendship.
It is the hunt for red October.
Yes, yes, yes.
Wait, what did I say?
Hunt for the Red October.
But it is the hunt for Red October.
It would be like you're not giving somebody
Beverly Hills Hotel or Hotel Beverly Hills.
Right.
I had a World War II.
This game was not really for me, but it was on the chair.
He was probably so proud.
He's like, oh, good.
She's getting into subs.
She's good.
This is, yeah.
She's getting sub-rease.
Yep.
Yeah, prior to the, prior to the film.
In fact, it was the first game based on a Tom Clancy.
Oh, very good piece of the game.
Was the 1987 game, The Hunt for Rat to October.
Okay, I'll give you another question.
How about that?
This 1981 thriller novel takes its title from an early 19th century painting by William Blake.
Colin.
It says red dragon.
That is red dragon.
Oh.
Red dragon.
The William Blake painting from the early 19th century called the Great Red Dragon and the woman clothed with the sun features in the book.
This 2016 animated film was a collaboration between France's Wild Bunch and Japan's studio Jibli.
Hmm.
Oh, interesting.
Getting more difficult now, isn't it?
I was going to be like, oh, what a funny thing if it was Porco Rosso.
Oh, but it's not.
That's 90s.
This feels like we should know this.
You should.
Maybe you should know this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Feature, feature length film?
Feature length film.
Feature length animated film, yeah.
For this one, it was a collaborative effort between Studio Ghibli
and a variety of different French studios.
Oh, okay.
Primarily when being the Wild Bunch.
But yeah, no, it's called the Red Turtle.
The Red Turtle.
Interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, little, I guess a less known, I, I, yeah, it is.
A less known studio.
What color is the turtle?
I guess.
You know, it doesn't say.
So here's another one.
Released for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox in
2004, this action adventure game stars Bounty Hunter Red Harlow.
Oh, 2004.
Karen.
Red Dead Red Dead Redemption.
Incorrect.
Oh, that's wrong.
It's not going to be something just as ridiculous as adding on to Karen's answer of Red Dead
Redemption 2.
Oh, God, I would never.
Oh, okay.
Karen Chu.
Thank you for that.
Because that's the sequel.
It's Red Dead Revolver.
Horrah!
The first game in the series is called Red Dead Revolver, Red Dead Red Dead Red Dead Redemption.
Much more popular was the season.
Because he got redeemed.
Reddinged.
Yes.
Oh, man.
That was good teamwork.
I'm here for the community points.
That's really.
Well, that's, I mean, Sarah, I mean, honestly, it's, I mean, that's, we always talk about that.
It's like somebody says something and they don't know it
and then somebody else says something else
and then that spurs the first person to actually
think of the answer. Right.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, look at that. You're like,
well, it would be dumb if I said Red Dead Dead Redemption too.
But like that was the thing that led Aaron to it. It was like, oh,
the redemption was the sequel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. This 1948 film
based on a Hans Christian Anderson story
featured a 17 minute ballet sequence.
Karen.
I don't know if it's the girl with the red.
or just the red shoes.
It's the red shoes.
Yeah.
It's the red shoes.
Nicely done.
The front cover of this 1961 novel calls it
the story of two dogs and a boy.
Oh.
Oh, Karen, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to bring this now.
Where the red friend grows.
It's where the red fur and grows.
Yes.
Less said about the plot of the novel the better.
No, let's move on.
Let's just move right on.
Okay.
The main character of this long run,
running children's book series was originally going to be named Tiny.
Screaming goat, Sarah.
Clifford the big red dog.
Clifford the big red dog.
Yeah.
Nicely spotted.
Cute.
Great.
It was originally going to be named Tiny, but instead they named him Clifford.
Good decision.
Big red dog.
All right.
Just two questions left.
How much do you remember about early 2000s video games?
wield a katana by swinging your arm around in this 2006 video game,
one of the first games released for the Wii.
For we. Yep.
Red.
Oh.
I think we had this at the office I worked at at the time.
Yeah.
Not helping me retrieve the name, however.
There's a sword reference. How about that?
Is it?
Oh, red katana.
You know, that's a good guess.
It is not correct, but it is a good guess.
You're on to something.
It's a little more metaphorical.
It's a little more poetic.
How about that?
I was going to say Red Blade, but that's not very poetic.
Oh, you're closer.
Yeah.
Okay.
The name of the game is Red Steel.
Red Steel.
Nice.
Finally, this 2012 novel by John
Scalzi satirizes the recurring plot elements of a science fiction television series.
Colin.
Is it just red shirts?
It's just red shirts.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's red shirts.
As spoken by Karen during the alliterative portion of today's episode.
Uh, yeah.
Well, good job on your, uh, red creative works, everyone.
All right.
I have one just quick game.
Chris, you can have a life, you have a direct lifeline.
Oh, nice.
I'm calling this quiz, very quick quiz, red flags.
Girl, he's a red flag.
And these are some red flags.
Okay, I'd like to phone a friend.
Okay, phone a friend.
Should we just have him do it?
Yeah, Chris.
We should.
Chris, you just want to do this segment of good job bringing in my place?
It's about flags.
Sure.
Okay.
I'm down to tagging man
Okay okay well I guess this quiz is becoming a
A talent show
Here's your buzzer
Just let me know when you need me come back in
We have a second special guest
This is Chris
Hi
Hello
Hi Chris
I'm gonna ask you some flag questions
This episode is about red
And these are flags that have the color red in them
Okay
Question one
The only national flag that is not in a rectangular
shape is predominantly red
And belongs to what names
nation.
Yes.
Chris?
Nepal?
Correct.
Yes.
Nice.
Nice.
Okay.
The flags of Japan and Bangladesh share what element, the same what element?
A red circle.
Red circle.
Correct.
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
Now, this is a little bit more challenging.
Our last red flag question, the little bit of Chris show.
So please name me as many as you can flags that only have the color red and white.
Let's see.
Denmark.
Correct.
We already talked about Japan earlier.
Sarah Collin, you guys want to join in and name some red and white flags.
Canada.
You got the two I got.
Yeah.
Switzerland.
Switzerland, good one.
Poland?
Poland in there?
Yes.
Indonesia.
Yes, because Poland and Indonesia are upside down of each other.
Monaco.
Yes.
Nice on Monaco.
Tonga?
Tonga, yes.
Would you count Greenland?
You know, I put it in parentheses.
Okay.
So it is on the list.
All right.
It's Danish.
Maroon.
I also have maroon and white flags, too, here.
Austria?
Austria, yes.
Latvia?
Latvia, yes.
If you're going, Maroon, does Qatar include there, right?
Yes.
Bahrain.
Bahrain!
Nice.
My man.
Turkey.
Tunisia?
Oh, good one, good one.
A flag with a lot of plus signs.
Like every corner.
It is Georgia.
Oh, Georgia, that one.
Last two, Singapore and Gibraltar.
Oh.
Nice.
All right.
That's it.
Round of applause for our special guest, Chris.
What a winner.
What a winner.
He's very happy.
Amazing.
Pull on that out of his back pocket.
Awesome.
I get all the points for that, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Thank you.
Because you made him.
I did.
You made him.
Good job.
That was my quick red flags.
All right.
The time has come.
While this episode is about red things and I think a very iconic logo, we all know.
The whole world knows the iconic logo of a certain red background with two golden arches is something that is very recognizable.
And speaking of that, you know, we have talked about, you know, various like failed McDonald's items and things like that.
And we have discussed recently the Arch Deluxe, R.A. Rip in Peace, the sad fate of the Arch Deluxe, which was, for my money,
one of the most delicious things
I ever ate at McDonald's.
I wish they would bring it back.
They have the big, they have the big archer.
They kind of did.
They kind of.
Except they didn't because it's got the bun
with like the poppy seeds and the same.
I tried it.
I tried this thing out.
Yeah, it's got like a sort of an upclass,
you know, as much as McDonald's can do sauce.
But it's got sort of the shredded lettuce and things like that.
It's good.
It's good.
But I feel like it's just, it's not the arch deluxe.
And Sarah got in touch with us.
It never is going to be.
to tell it it's never going to be.
To tell us something very personal that happened between Sarah and the Arch Deluxe as a concept.
I am so excited to be able to share this story.
To let Cats Out of Bags here, I was the star of the first ever Arch Deluxe commercial.
I'm sorry, I was one of these stars of the first ever Arch Deluxe commercial.
No, really, though.
You had a speaking car.
I did. I did.
All right.
So before we get into the insanity that was filming that commercial,
let me tell you about what it was to get cast on that commercial.
Yeah.
So, yep, the spot aired in 1996, and I did math or whatever to figure out how old I was.
And I must have been in no more, no older than like third grade.
So in third grade, little Sarah is in Brownies, which is like the young girl scouts, right?
Yeah.
And I went to like World Peace Day or Brownie Day or whatever the like local,
all the brownie troops get together and, you know, in like a hotel room, ballroom somewhere.
You know, just like and do little Brownie Day staff.
It's all right.
So you make a necklace over here and then you go and you learn about lemons or something over here.
And it's just instead of just your troop, it's all the troops.
For some unknown reason that I cannot figure out.
there was a casting director present.
And so one of the like stalls that you could go to was go and talk to this random casting director.
Interesting.
And somehow that casting director was like, hey, you girls come over here to this other audition we're having on another day.
And you can come interview for McDonald's.
And I'm like, hey, or whatever.
for McDonald's.
It was hyper specific for this one thing.
And so I go to this cattle call audition,
and that is still the phrase that they use for it,
it was just a room full of young kids.
Now, the question you may be asking was,
was this in a normal audition place in Los Angeles?
No, this was still in a weird hotel ballroom in a suburb of Los Angeles.
So it's me, and I don't even remember,
how many other kids and the casting directors just started picking you out of a crowd.
Oh my God.
Just like the look at you.
Come here.
You and you but not you.
Like a great introduction to the entertainment profile.
So I was originally cast as a background actor, right?
You know, just like, ah, the kid will fill the seed and they do that.
I also want to explain a little bit about the spot and why it's filled with children.
So the spot itself is called Career Day.
And what it focuses on or tried to was a manager of McDonald's going into like presumably his child's class and explaining what he does for a living.
And so the spot is like, this guy, he's really excited.
I go to McDonald's.
I get to make the McNuggets.
I get to make the Big Mac.
Burr, bra, bur, per, per, and you have all of these kids like raising their questions like, do you get to make this?
Do you get to make this?
And you're so excited.
And then there's a tight shot on the manager.
He goes, I do all that.
I even get to make the arch deluxe.
And the very next thing that happens is a tight focus on my face going,
gross.
And so then the rest of the spot is just about how, like,
children are not supposed to like the burger.
And so that's why it's good for grownups.
Right, right.
The same is a kid's burger.
Exactly, right, exactly.
So this was McDonald's trying to up their brand, right?
McDonald's knew that parents were brought to McDonald's because their children wanted.
Yes.
So they wanted to change their branding.
They wanted to be like, oh, but grownups can also go there, like absent of your children.
Like you're looking for a good, affordable date night?
Why not go to McDonald's and order this grown-up burger, right?
On a third date, you probably shouldn't have gone on,
and you definitely want to make sure there's not a
order.
Yep.
Take her to McDonald's.
Make it Mac tonight.
Indeed.
Mac tonight.
Sorry, we love that commercial too.
That's fantastic.
You should live in that happiness of master.
Oh, Chris did.
Absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
His mom made him the moon man mask,
and that's why he went as Halloween.
That Halloween, that was really big.
Incredible artifact.
This is perfect.
I was careful.
as a background actor, right?
Just supposed to be a kid with a button in a seat, right?
You're supposed to have 20, 30 kids, whatever.
Through production and editing, I was promoted from a background actor all the way up to a principal actor, right?
So that means that at the age of nine or whatever I was in third grade, I got residuals.
Yeah.
So like you guys have younger kids.
So either put yourself in your mindset of your younger kids or put yourself in the
mindset of you in second grade.
I got to miss, or third grade,
I got to miss two days of school.
Wow.
To film a commercial that later I would get paid
every time it aired.
And I didn't actually care about that second part,
but I was like, yeah, it's for McDonald's.
And I was like an awkward, lonely kid.
So I was just like, I'm going to be cool now.
It's fine.
Yep, yep, yep.
It's all going to change for saying now.
So my whole life's going to change.
So through this process, I got promoted to principal actor.
That's also how I got my first two SAG credits.
Oh, amazing.
Let's back up to what a terrible idea this is to have a small child say that your product is gross.
In order to get genuinely disgusted responses from the children, the director and producers and all the grownups on set told us that the burger was made out of monkey's brain.
Oh my God.
Like Indiana Jones.
Yeah, like exactly.
Dude, when I saw that in Indiana Jones, I was like, oh, like the burger.
And then eventually I was like, oh, no, they just lied to me because I was a child.
So then I remember hearing that the ad wasn't working out too well.
And to the best of my knowledge, the ad was on air for about two weeks before they cut it, no.
I remember hearing, oh, you know, it's not working out well.
So they're going to pull your spot and they're going to replace it with another spot.
font. And the thought that they replaced it with was Ronald McDonald's like shining
on like a. Oh, it was like Ronald McDonald like grows up and goes golfing or like does
a golfing like that. Fully more grown up with it. I ended up getting an agent out of this and I
spent several years trying to like do that, right? I spent several years going to L.A. for
auditions and everything. And I never got anything as good as that. I ended up being a finalist
for the Pepsi girl in the nine, in the very late 90s, early 2000.
You might remember the girl with the beautiful curly hair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I lost that to her.
I was almost, I was one of the finalists for being like the Welch's grape or jelly
or grape juice like somewhere in there.
Yeah, I was in that.
I got a couple of print ads and a couple of other really small things,
but never anything, obviously, as big as like a national McDonald's, like, huge thing, right?
So cut to college, I was an advertising major, and I'm sitting in my advertising classes
and they start talking about, like, oh, let's take a look at why some things don't work.
And like two minutes later, the flagship example was the Arch Deluxe.
And so my whole class, we spent a long time talking about, like, well, why did it fail?
Why could it have been this?
Why could it have been this?
And seemingly no one had actually seen one of the ads.
And so I was like, I got a different perspective here.
The end result at one part was this commercial where they told people that their product was disgusting.
Right, right.
I had mentioned in the Loeb Trodder's Group, I am just so proud that of all the accomplishments in my life,
my general face and vibe cost McDonald's tens of millions of dollars.
Wow. Right, right, right, right.
I sent Karen some pictures of this as well, but like,
Thank God my mother keeps a lot of things.
She actually kept the original burger box.
Oh my gosh.
I'll send you guys some pictures.
So like this is actually like from the mid to late 90s, the box that the burger came in.
Look at the plastic window.
The window.
They're so proud of the art of deluxe.
They want you to see it.
That logo is fantastic, by the way.
It's the single arch, the single arch forming the A, the shadow of the
arch forming the day. It's so designing. And this is what's so fascinating to me is if you look at
how McDonald's approach to this, they put so much love and care and intentionality. And this was
going to be the flagship thing that propelled them through the mid to late 90s and into the new
millennium, right? And they put everything into this. I genuinely wonder like how many
points in times in a meeting did somebody not pop up and say, it should be aspirational. It should be aspirational.
The thing is, it's like, as a kid, you should want the Arch Deloica.
Yes.
Because you should want to like enter the mysterious adult world of adult burgers.
Right, yeah, exactly.
Right, right, right.
Wow.
I, for one, do not blame you personally.
I do.
That's fine.
I think I blame me personally.
A little bit.
I think it's really cool.
I will wear this proudly.
I had heard you guys talk about this.
I always just took it as a little bit personal, like,
ha, ha, ha, ha, I've got a secret that nobody knows.
And then I thought about, like, actually reaching out.
And I was like, yeah, I think, I think that they're going to be down with this story.
It is.
We're glad you're here.
We're glad you're here sharing this with us.
Lion King music.
In the burger rapper.
Right.
Yeah.
A wrapper of the vouch to us.
Yeah, in the little carton.
All right.
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This week, our topic is read, and initially this was a quiz, but I'm just going to blurt it out.
It blew my mind, and I feel like it's going to.
going to blow yours. So I'm going to talk about strawberries very quickly.
Strawberrys. Uh-huh. Noted red fruit.
Noted red fruit, noted red flavor. My oldest, who six, can rip through a box of strawberries
like no other. Oh, yeah, man. I know that. Baries are not cheap. Not cheap. They're not a cheap
fruit. They're just by the handful. Just, yep, yep. We probably all heard, probably all read this
on a snapple lid, what I call a snapple lid fact.
Strawberries are not actual berries, right?
Strawberries are not actual berries.
Turns out they're actually more related to the flower rose.
It's a very common trivia tip it, but it's very cool.
And one of the reasons it is not classified as a berry is because you hear the seeds are
on the outside, right?
Strawberrys famously, seeds are on the outside.
But are they seeds?
Are they actually seeds?
what we think or what we know that are strawberry seeds on the outside is the fruit.
What?
Each one of those little things is its own fruit.
What you're eating, the red fleshy part.
The mask.
The fleshy mask.
Yeah.
It's just the thickened flower stock.
The host, it's just the embedding surface for the fruit.
A receptacle that's with it.
Wow.
Huh.
And the actual fruit is the tiny what we think seeds.
I mean, obviously there's seeds in it.
But like what you're eating off the strawberry that falls off.
That's the fruit.
Oh, and the seeds are inside the little tiny meat fruit?
And the seeds are inside.
Wow.
So when you're eating one strawberry, you're eating 200 fruits.
Whoa.
It's like eating a whole bunch of bananas, like in one-tight.
Yes.
I got, okay, cool.
I'll let my doctor know.
I'm eating so much fruit right now.
It's fantastic.
How many fruits do you have?
200.
I ate 200 fruits.
Yeah.
And the fleshy part is just part of the plant.
That's one of those like two levels of wrong.
Like, like, yes.
Yes, it's not a berry.
But not for the reason that you.
You have been quoted, right.
Exactly.
It's amazing.
Here's my last blow your mind fact about strawberries.
All right.
Most animals, and definitely most mammals, we have two sets of chromosomes.
Strawberries have eight sets of chromosomes.
They're called an octoploid because of their high amount of DNA.
You can extract strawberry DNA in your home kitchen.
You can extract the A to a point where you can see it.
it. What? That can be visible to the eye. Wow. How do you do this? You can look this up. Essentially,
I'll give you the cliff notes. You take a bunch of strawberries, you mash them in a Ziploc bag,
you add some solution with disc detergent, you sieve through, and you get the leftover juice,
and then you pour like an alcohol solution, and that will separate the DNA material. And you can see it.
It's like white, clearish snot that you can scoop up with the stick.
and that's literally
strawberry DNA.
How crazy
is that? I'm going to do
that tomorrow.
That's a mad
kitchen scientist. You don't see
DNA. You don't, you think about
it as something that you could hold. Like here, I'm
holding some DNA. Come look at this
DNA I'm holding, right?
Well, that explains why they're so expensive.
They got all that DNA.
All that DNA. Right. Yeah.
Right.
I have a word nerd quiz for you all.
Get your buzzers ready for this one.
The quiz I have built for you
involves the word red,
but red, unlike Chris's quiz,
red does not actually appear in any of the answers to this quiz.
Okay.
Instead, I have chosen words, English words,
that are etymologically related to each other and red via their root.
This will be easier than it sounds.
I promise.
I promise.
To give you another hook in here, every answer in this quiz begins with the letter R, all right?
Red is not an answer, but they all begin with the letter R.
They all, and they are all related.
Let me give you an example.
I will give you a short clue and you will buzz in with the answer.
All right.
So if I were to say, this precious gem takes its name from the Latin or Red Stone.
You would buzz in some of you, all of you, an answer.
If this were a real question.
Yes, Karen.
Ruby.
That's right.
Ruby.
Ruby is the answer.
And I'll give you a little bit of the backstory here on how this is connected.
Ruby, right.
which, as I mentioned, comes from Latin for rubiness lapis red stone.
And the word rubis rubius comes ultimately from a root,
R-E-U-D-H, rude, a proto-Indo-European root.
That's right.
And that root, which means reddish, ruddy, is going to tie all of these words together.
Same, same root if you trace them back far enough.
All right, here we go.
We will try and ramp up in difficulty here.
Get your buzzers ready.
Question one.
This is the common name for simple iron oxide.
Karen.
Rust.
It is rust.
Yeah, very simple.
Rust, which comes from the old English word, rust.
Which ultimately can trace back through related words.
Rust, roost.
all the way back to that same root, R-E-U-D-H,
rude adding an S and a T, basically a suffixed form of that word.
Rust.
Now I got my thinking.
Okay, I got a question, but I'll wait till the end of the quiz.
Okay, yeah, who noticed that your question may show up in this quiz.
That's right.
All right.
Here we go.
Next question.
If you were in the kitchen making a soup, let's say,
you might start by whipping up this simple flower-based thaw.
Sarah, what's your hand?
Is it a rue?
It is a rue.
You got it.
A rue, R-O-U-X from the French.
It's ultimately shortened from Beru-R-R-R-Burd butter.
And in this phrase, the rue comes from a red or reddish-brown connotation originally.
And we've lost some of the red over time.
That's right.
The Roo comes from Latin again.
Rousseau.
Again, back to the same root I mentioned before.
The leaves from this South African plant are used to make a popular herbal tea.
Karen.
I'm not sure how to properly pronounce this.
That's all right.
That's all right.
We're all friends here.
It sounds like it's spelled Rubios.
Rubose.
Yeah, you're very close.
I'm going to give it to you.
The word is Roybus.
Samson, I was way off.
All right.
I know you're picturing the right word, Carrie.
I trust you.
Yeah.
R-O-O-I-B-O-S, Roy B-S, Roy B-Boss.
And it is from an Afrikaans word, which literally means red bush.
Red Bush, Roy Boss, Red Bush.
It is not caffeinated.
This is why it is technically, I learned people get very snippy about this.
It is technically not a tea.
I learned that people don't even like the term herbal tea, the proper term.
The proper term is herbal infusion.
So a Roybus is an herbal infusion.
It's leaf soup.
Yeah, it's hot leaf water.
Hot leaf water.
This is another name for German measles.
Oh.
Rubella. It's Rubella.
It is. It's Rubella.
It's the Rubella.
It's the R in the MMR.
It is Rubella.
which means rash in Latin and named after the, you know, rosy colored rashes you would get.
All right.
Getting a little more difficult here.
Moving maybe a little further away from some of these meanings originally.
An earlier sense of this word referred to special directions and notations in books of liturgy.
In common use, it now means an authoritative or established.
rule. Oh.
Starts with an R.
Starts with an R. And think about some of these, these roots that we've been talking about.
Oh.
Oh, Karen.
Requisite?
Ooh, even a little further.
Can you say it again?
Can you say the question again?
An earlier sense of this word referred to special directions in books of liturgy.
In common use, it means an authoritative or established rule.
What's liturgy?
A liturgy would be meaning for like a religious practice, basically.
These would be sort of like editor's notes of like, here's how you follow.
Another meaning of this word can mean sort of a title or a heading, a special section,
often written in another color, often read.
The word I'm looking for is rubric.
Rube.
Oh.
Yes.
Yes.
Now, we generally just mean it to mean like, you know, the strict rules maybe.
But yeah, the earlier meanings of rubric were text or directions.
very often written in red to either introduce a section of a book or actually tell you what to do
in the book, the rubric.
This word is used to describe certain varieties of pears and potatoes.
Sarah, Sarah, what do you got? Screaming Goat.
It is Russet.
The word Russet originally referred to a coarse woolen cloth, okay, that was off.
often like reddish brown.
And it came from the old French word roussay, rousay, meaning reddish.
Apparently, the name russet stuck to this type of fabric cloth, even after it was no longer
red.
And so now, all that's left over is sort of the brownish connotation.
So when you talk about a russet potato or a russet pear, you're really just basically saying
it's brown.
But the roots, the roots of russet meant very specifically reddish.
Reddish brown.
Yeah.
All right.
Final question.
Final question.
Moving further away from the metaphorical meaning of red here.
Let's see if you guys can clue in.
If someone is strong and hardy, something that has or indicates great strength,
you might use this word to describe it or that person.
Anything from a person to a coffee flavor.
Sarah, again, what do you got?
Robust?
Yes, it is robust.
Wow.
Robust from Latin robustus, which to them meant strong and hardy, but it was more metaphorical.
It meant as strong as an oak.
And they called the wood of the oak tree the rober, robust, because it had a reddish tint to the wood.
Two or three levels of meaning there have shifted from, we have this red wood.
Oh, you're strong like this red wood to just, oh, you're strong and hearty.
Yeah, I had a feeling the coffee might clue it.
Yeah, you see that word a lot in coffee.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Well, well done.
Good job.
You guys are well read.
You clued in very well to the Red Words quiz.
Now, Karen, I have to know, did I get to your question that you had?
Yes, it was Russet.
In the beginning, I was like, oh, is that why Russet potatoes are called Russet potatoes because
they're like reddish?
Yep, you were on the right track.
You were on the red track.
You know, like how people call a shade of blonde, strawberry blonde?
And I think as a kid, I'm just like, but that's not the color of strawberries.
Why are you describing it?
Oh, because it's like reddish.
And I was like, oh, I wonder like if this came from like a marketing campaign.
Okay.
Okay.
Yep.
Like chocolate diamonds or something.
Yes.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, strawberry blonde.
What a good marketing term.
Turns out it's not.
Strawberry blonde was used to describe.
roan cattle
like horses and donkeys
and stuff and then it's like oh okay
which is also
not a berry the cow I
you know they have
little no fact
cows not there
is you look very closely at the outer
surface of the cow
all the little dots on the cow
those are actually the cows
they're tiny little
fractal cows
yeah the big thing that moves
is a stock
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We have a non-topic quiz.
Sarah has prepared a quiz for us.
I have no idea what's it about.
So it'll be fun to find out.
So Sarah, give us our final quiz of the episode.
I have a fun thing for you.
As you guys learned a little bit about me being on set when I was a kid,
I thought I would take you through my quiz,
big screen tiny humans.
All right.
You are producing a commercial for Good Job Brain.
and for some unknown reason, you have decided to make your lives terribly difficult and only cast minors.
Yes.
While no one really knows why you've done this, you were at least able to cast the world's most famous child actor, five-year-old, Diva Mick Burger Face.
Right as you are about to start your first day of production, your star refuses to come out of her trailer slash playpen because you have unknowingly broken several child labor laws.
You must work together to find out where you went wrong so you can get your shots done before you push your crew into overtime.
This is a multiple choice quiz and you guys can work together or be competitive and go against each other.
Whatever works best.
All right.
Number one.
As producers, you are required to hire an onset teacher if diva is guaranteed how many consecutive days of work?
Three, four, or five.
Oh, wow.
I'm going to say it's the lower limit, right?
I think it's the lower one.
I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with five because then they're missing a full week of school, you know?
I'm going to say always pick three.
That is true.
We always do say always do say always pick three.
But we also say you should always pick the middle one, which is true.
Nobody's taking the middle.
We have a few rules so we can choose to ignore.
I'm five.
You guys are three.
The correct answer is three.
You are required to produce a teacher for three or more.
consecutive days of work. You have also hired several of Diva's best friends that are all between
the ages of two to five. How many hours are these kids allowed to be at the place of employment,
which is technically different than on set? So how many hours? Three, four, or six? A day?
Correct, a day. Okay. Place of employment is like the trailer, the area where the
set is. Right. Arriving to your location. I see. I mean, it's short enough that this is why they get
twins for a lot of these roles, right? Right. I mean, so what's what's they all seem so super short though.
I mean, like I know like on a like on a teepee shoot like three, four, six hours. Like that's nothing.
Right. This is specifically for two to five year olds. Okay. Two to five year olds.
The options are three, four or six. I'm going to choose three again.
You should.
Yeah.
You guys ready?
The answer for this one is six.
Oh.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I guess that includes like hair and makeup.
And just sitting around.
Yep.
And just sitting around in between takes.
That's also part of it.
Moving on here.
Uh-oh.
You hear Diva is having a total meltdown because you guys set her call time too early.
And now she is so tired that she can't even.
You have to adjust her call time to no earlier than 5 a.m.
6 a.m. or 7 a.m.
What is the earliest you can call a 2 to 5 year old 2 set?
5, 6, or 7 a.m.
I mean, it's got to be the latest one.
It doesn't have to be?
I'll go with 6 a.m.
I'll go with 7.
I think Karen's right on this one.
I'll go with 7 too.
All of your parent brains are being too kind to you.
It is technically 5 a.m.
That's so hard.
I know.
Think of this as a parent.
Now, this is not necessarily what people will do.
It's what the California law is.
Yeah.
Moving forward here.
While trying to decipher how to keep diva in line,
you learned that she started acting professionally at the youngest age possible.
How old was acting professionally on set and getting paid for it?
Oh, my gosh.
10 days old, 15 days old, or 20 days old.
Amazing.
the upper limit is 20 days.
Yeah.
Well, for like, you know,
newborns.
I mean, I get it.
I get it.
Yep.
I'll go 10.
I'll say 10.
I'll say 10.
I'm just thinking, like, the TV industry.
What's the, like, what can we get away with?
Because it's like they have to clear.
Have to clear something.
You have to clear the umbilical cord has to fall.
Guys, you should have gone with B.
It's 15 days.
Okay, alright.
Imagine taking your two-week and one-day-old baby.
Yeah.
Two-set.
Two-set.
All right.
You learn that Diva's first ever gig at 15 days old was for the commercial for the newborn chaos
containment unit.
Diva's parents learned that all the coordination around naps, feeding, and other general
baby chaos has to fit into a maximum time of place at the employment.
So this is, again, not for a two-de-sue.
year old, this is for a 15-day-old person.
Is your maximum time at the place of employment, 90 minutes, 120 minutes, or 150 minutes?
I'm saying 90.
I could say 90 or 150.
I could see it being like, like, you've got to get two hours in there, maybe just pushing
it, but.
You also have taken into account like, that's everything.
That's all the waiting around and everything and like, you know, you need a little bit of
buffer time.
That's true.
Oh, 120 minutes.
Why not?
I've been wrong every question so far.
Yay, you got this one right.
Yeah.
It was 120 minutes.
How many of those 120 minutes could Diva actually spend working?
And that's going to include hair, makeup, wardrobe, time spent acting, and anything like that.
How many of those 120 minutes could Diva actually work?
10 minutes, 15 minutes, or 20 minutes.
Oh, gosh.
Well, I mean, what the role that Deva McBerger face is clearly playing here is
Baby that just came out of someone, right?
Yeah.
This would only be for like delivered a newborn baby on TV.
Like any other role would be filled by somebody older.
Wouldn't be a 15-day-old baby, right?
Got it.
You'd only do that if you want max realism and not like you see some TV shows where they're like,
here's your new baby.
And the kids like two.
And this age is also normally where they would have like a fake baby that just has never turned to the camera, right?
And you hear the baby crying, but it's just post, it's just sad.
And then you cut, and then you cut to like one shot of this one baby's face.
Oh, I see.
They have a dummy baby.
That's a close.
Then that's the baby.
Okay.
I'm going with the lowest amount.
What is that?
10 minutes?
10 minutes.
15, 15.
20 minutes.
You guys got a whole luxurious toy.
is 20 minutes with that 15 day old.
Lights camera action.
It is time for Diva's very first take ever.
How long within that 20 minutes can Diva be exposed to the lights?
Oh, man.
Wow.
30 seconds at a time, 60 seconds at a time, or 90 seconds out of time.
I'm just doubting myself on everything now.
Right.
30 seconds, 60 seconds at a time.
I'll go 90. I'll go 90.
It's 30 seconds at a time.
Just enough for that, for some person to bring a baby's face right in, they put a camera
right there and go, do whatever you're going to do, 15-day-old baby. And then that's the
whole shot. So to your point earlier, this is exactly why they hire twins.
Obviously, as you get to, you know, between 15, I think it was like 15 days and like six
months or something, some ridiculously big change in a baby. They do change.
change these rules, right? Those newborn Gerber babies, they're twins or if they can get their hands
on triplets, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're shooting all day. We got to be triplets. I mean,
it's one of those things where like the regulations tell the story, right? I mean, like, we're
the end result of how we got to these super demarcated time boundaries. Wow. Yes. All right. Let's take
it back to present day, you are now armed with an unsettling amount of knowledge about newborn
labor laws and you three rush in to correct all your mistakes. Congratulations, you have proved
to Diva that you care deeply about child labor laws and she will now come out of her trailer
slash playpen. She is ready to work and you just barely manage to finish all of your shots
before your crew goes into overtime. Good job, producer brains. What did you learn from this?
always hire actors that are twins or six years old or older.
Oh my gosh.
It reminds me of like, who was it?
Someone mentioned they were filming Beethoven the sequel or Beethoven the second
and it was all about Beethoven's like St. Bernard puppies and they ran through 200 puppies.
Yeah, because they grow so fast.
And it's like new litter, new litter, new litter.
Yeah, just keep them coming.
Like just get them in a timer, shoot them next one.
They're growing over the course of the shot.
I have a crazy question, and feel free to not answer it.
How much money did you get paid?
Yeah.
That's a great question.
Or arched a lot.
Let's all live in a world where I was eight, so I don't know that I fully remember this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think I made about five grand.
Nice.
Between my rate for being on set, not as background, but as principal actor,
plus whatever residuals I made.
Honestly, I think my parents would probably remember a little bit better than I do,
because there's a bunch of protected rules about, like, how much a child actor can actually, like, get out of their paycheck until their whatever age.
I remember it as me making probably five grand, but it could also probably have been, like, two.
Did you buy anything with the money that you remember?
I'm super sure that I did, but nothing is, like, is, like, immediately popping out.
I'm not joking.
I would have worked for French fries.
Like, if you told me, like, they would just pay me and, like, oh, we'll give you.
If you like all the French fries you could eat in a month, I'd be like, oh, man.
Oh, did you get a lifetime?
Like any perks, like McDonald's perks?
So I really hoped that I was going to get that.
I do remember going into like my local McDonald's win the win it aired.
And I was like, you want to give me anything free?
Say the wine, Sarah.
Well, that's our show, everybody.
Thank you all for joining me.
Thank you, Sarah, for being our special guest this episode.
It was super fun.
Hope you learned stuff today about Arch Deluxe, about strawberries, and red titles.
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And what would you do in their position?
Vengeance felt good.
Seeing these people pay for what they'd done felt righteous.
True spies.
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