Good Job, Brain! - 74: Sequels II: Sequel Harder 2 The Streets
Episode Date: August 14, 2013One is good, but is two really better? Test your movie tagline chops with our movie sequel quiz. Do you know the full titles of some of these blockbuster sequels? And what about sequels of people? Kar...en shares some odd findings on the "Junior" naming tradition. Colin regales us with tales of weird shampoo product sequels that leave us scratching our heads. (Because we're perplexed, not because he gave us lice or anything.) ALSO: Bizarre headlines (TURTLE BURGER!), Jeopardy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, megahertz and megastars and Megatron.
Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and off-beat trivia podcast.
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Noted fan of the show.
This is episode 740.
for, and of course I am your humble
host, Karen, and we are your formation
of four, foraging
for forepaws. I actually
didn't look up what that means. I'm guessing
it's the front paw. Yeah, yeah.
We're foraging for them, though.
We're trying to find abandoned
forepaws. This is what happens when I
do this in a hurry.
This is how the sausage is made,
people.
Delicious
four paw sausage.
I'm Colin.
I'm Dana.
And I'm Chris.
All right.
We haven't done a headline in a while.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's some crazy stuff, but nothing caught my eye.
Until recently, here's the headline.
Man tries to smuggle turtle onto plane by hiding it in a hamburger.
This is either a very small turtle or the worst plan.
This is one of those where I think I saw the,
a headline and I never clicked on it. I'm so happy. I, I, I just, what does that mean?
I couldn't even imagine what that meant. So when I first read this, I was like, oh, I hope it's
not a sad, it's not a sad story. It is not a sad story. Because there are a lot of stories about
people trafficking. Oh, I'm sure the turtle loved it. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, there are people who
smuggle like thousands of, you know, endangered turtles or animals or bird eggs and stuff all the
time and you know that seems a little shady and sad um but this is from the south china morning post
so in the guangzhou province or at the the international airport there a man on his way to
to Beijing he passed through the airport security and the x-ray showed something weird he had a
kfc burger box and burger that he packed in his bag uh-huh but through the x-ray the the people
working at the x-ray, we're like,
hmm, there's some weird things sticking out
from the burger,
quote, odd protrusions
that look kind of like limbs.
So the staff
was like, you know, let's check it out.
It's weird because this guy was like,
instantly, he's like, there's no turtle in there,
just a hamburger.
Not suspicious at all.
Why, what do you need to look in there?
It sounds like a turtle.
Who said turtle?
Reportedly insisted
There's nothing special to see inside
That's not a red flag
Finally
He finally acquiesced to an inspection
There was indeed a turtle
Inside the hamburger
A live turtle
Not a cooked turtle
The guy said that
It's his beloved turtle pet
And he wanted to travel together with him
Yeah
And that's all
No no weird plans of smuggling
Or whatever
Just his pet
I actually, yeah, I do a lot of traveling with, like, you know,
suitcases full of video games sometimes.
Do you get stopped?
Yeah, well, I'm not stopped, but, like, they'll run it again, and they'll open it up
and do a hand inspection because, like, you'll see, I mean, my suitcase will go through
and I'll see the dude, like, call a supervisor over and they'll look at the machine.
Because it's got to look, I mean, it's just, like, random old electronics all just shoved into
a bag, cold and bursting, no clothes, you know.
It's like, yeah, I look suspicious.
It looks like an improvised bomb.
I understand.
Then they always open it up and it's like, it's like a world of Nintendo store in there.
When I was finally on my flight to here to America for college, I packed in my bag a stuffed animal, my childhood stuffed animal, who went through a lot of surgeries and washes.
And it's kind of like sewn up in weird places, cut open weird places, just old.
It was loved.
They asked to inspect my bag and opened up.
Now I understand why it's some machinery.
At that time, I didn't understand.
I was like, what's wrong?
That's my Tudu.
That's my rabbit friend.
So Tudu, my stuffed animal, has a giant incision on the belly.
Oh.
And they're like, did you do this?
And I was like, yeah, when I was like nine or ten, and they're like, did you put something in there?
I was like, new cotton.
Yeah.
They thought that Tutu was four.
full of nose candy.
Yeah.
Something.
Or something.
Right.
So I have an airport story.
So I was at the airport and I had a can of shaving cream.
And you know at the bottom there's a little pressure nozzle sometimes at the bottom of tent.
The little plug thing.
Yeah, the little plug thing.
And so they were like, what's this?
And I was like.
Well, that's just that being stupid.
Well, yeah.
And they were like, this doesn't look right.
I'm not sure what this is.
And I was like, I don't know.
Like, what is that?
And then they're like, we have to take this in the background.
And they like take it to the background.
groom and they're there for a while and then they come back and they're like laughing and I know
that they were spraying shaving cream everywhere I could tell like that they had been doing that
that they yeah maybe that was like a secret compartment or something yeah like in Jurassic Park
don't they have the shaving cream canister that has spirals out yeah you're smuggling dinosaurs
yeah I don't know all right guys let's jump into our general trivia segment pop quiz hot shot
So, as I mentioned, a couple episodes ago, we kind of ran out of Trivial Pursuit cards, and those are on its way.
But for now, we have the Jeopardy board game.
So let's play some Jeopardy again.
The category today is macho man.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Guys have your barnyard buzzers ready.
Yeah.
Remember, form of a question.
Okay.
Form of a question.
Collin.
Okay.
All right, $100 question.
This wrestler was solid in The Mummy and Scorpion King.
Who is the Rock?
Who is Dwayne Johnson?
Who is Dwayne John?
The Rock.
He said the wrestler.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
$200 question.
This former Minnesota governor says he'd like to be remembered for his beautiful hair.
Chris.
Jesse the Body Ventura.
Incorrect.
Oh, who is?
Jesse, the Body Ventura.
We're visiting back upon me.
All right, $300 question.
While growing up, this Rambo star had to put up with a lot of Tweetybird jokes.
Dana.
Who is Sylvester Stallone?
Yes.
It took me a second to get the Tweety Bird reference.
I was like, does he talk like Tweety Bird?
And then I was like, oh, right, the cat.
Sylvester.
All right, $400 question.
He was credited as Arnold Strong in the 1970 film.
Hercules in New York
Chris. Who is
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Correct. And $500
question. He played a Navy SEAL
turned cook in Under Siege.
Chris again.
Who is Steven Seagot?
Correct.
Never going to forget it again.
I saw a laser disc
of Hercules in New York
at a thrift store a while ago.
Oh yeah? Yeah, I was like,
Is it worth, is this worth any money?
Really wasn't.
I left you there for the discerning Schwarzenegger.
This is the last hole in my collection.
All right, let's do another one.
Double jeopardy.
Oh, double jeopardy.
And the category is Q dot dot T.
Okay.
They're words, one word answers, with first letter Q, last letter T.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right, $200 question.
Shhh.
Oh.
Chris.
What is quiet?
Correct.
$400 question.
Last name of cartoon adventure Johnny, who was voiced by Tim Matheson.
Oh, Dana.
Who is Johnny Quest?
Or Quest.
Or what is Quest?
What is Quest?
Where are Quest?
Why is Quest?
For $600, last name of the British designer who introduced Hot Pants around 1970.
Chris.
What is Quant?
Correct.
Mary Quant.
We know she was credited with the miniskirt, but she also designed hot pants, which...
Short shorts.
Short, yeah.
Very related.
$800.
This corrugated steel hut is now a trademarked name.
Colin.
That is, what is Quonset?
Correct.
Yes.
Quonset.
Quonset.
Yep.
for $1,000 fake dollars.
In Poe's Raven, this adjective precedes
and curious volume of forgotten lore.
Oh, shoot.
Shoot, never mind.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, because I think we all thought.
It precedes and curious volume of forgotten lore.
Oh.
Colin?
What is quaint?
Correct.
What is quaint?
Quaint and curious volume of Forgotten Lord.
Very good job.
I was like, quote.
Yeah, I hit the same reaction.
All right, good job, Brains.
So this week, I can't believe we haven't talked about this topic.
We always reference this a lot.
This week, we're going to talk about sequels.
Dang.
Okay, well, I will start it up here with a quiz
on what I think are just the prototypical sequels, which are movie sequels.
Yes.
And famous movies, often, because they are successful, spawn sequels by studios trying to make more of that sweet, sweet movie cash.
I'm going to read for you guys the tagline from the movie poster for a variety of movie sequels, all right?
And then you will buzz in and tell me the name of that movie.
So they're not part of the title.
This is not part of the title.
Because they do like movie two.
Right.
Subtitles.
Yeah.
Well, and you know, there's, I mean, there's sort of, there's two camps on either end.
There's the really generic ones like, he's back for more, you know, which could be any movie with a male hero.
And then there are the ones like, if Adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones, where that's probably a little, it's a little easy to guess.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to sort of split the difference here.
So keep in mind.
These are all sequels to successful movies, and the tagline should sort of clue at what the movie is about.
Oh, right.
Yes.
And no Star Wars.
Again, I will let you guys all read about.
You know, most of the Star Wars movies, their taglans are just the Star Wars saga continues.
They don't, yeah.
All right.
So we'll start off with a couple easy ones just to get you guys warmed up here.
So again, I give you tagline, you give me a movie.
Die Harder.
That's Chris.
Well, I think that's Die Hard, too.
It is Die Hard, too.
And now at this point I want to point out, I'm looking for the exact name of the movie.
So a lot of them, when they're sequels, they have extended names.
And we get this at Pub Quiz a lot.
And, you know, our Quizmaster always makes very clear.
I need the full and accurate title.
Yeah.
And interestingly enough, I think people think that Die Hard 2 colon Die Harder is the name of Die Hard 2.
Oh, it's not.
No, that was just the tagline.
They just put it everywhere.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yep, yep.
All right, here we go.
The toys are back in town.
Karen
Toy Story 2
Toy Story 2
Correct
Getting back was only the beginning
Chris
Back to the future
Part 2
Correct
First he fought for the crown
Now he's fighting for the
Family Jewels
The way you read these are so funny
Dana
Is that Shrek 2
No not of that yes
And you are sort of in the right ballpark
It is a comedy
It does have an actor in common with
Shrek.
Oh.
Oh, man.
Karen.
Oh, no.
I was thinking of Austin Powers.
I was like it.
Oh, Chris?
Oh, Austin Powers, the spy who shagged me.
Correct.
Wow.
Which was the second Austin Powers move.
How far down does the rabbit hole go?
Oh.
Chris.
Oh, sorry.
The Matrix Reloaded.
Yes.
Matrix.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Who is?
Who is?
Oh, not me.
Yes.
Right.
Continuing on there.
Alice in Wonderland references from the first movie
Yes
Once they made history
Now they are history
Oh
Chris rolling on with it
What is?
Bill and Ted's bogus journey
Correct
Oh yes
Yes yes
And I like the nice double meaning there of history
That's the one where they die
Yeah
It almost seems like they made the movie based on having written the tagline
Yeah yeah yeah
You're probably right
They just worked backwards
We got the poster
Now, get me a script.
Someone has taken their love of sequels one step too far.
Oh, burn it.
I'm going to say...
Scream, too.
Yes, yes.
I want to give Dana that one because she's so obviously frustrated here.
Yes, scream two.
I'm going to readjust my buzzer hand.
I just press.
I'm going to just press and then, uh.
The movie name.
I believe you will find the name.
the movie to be
Yes, and
Scream to, of course.
Very meta. They are very meta.
They're talking about sequels all through the movie.
It's good. All right. The second
year begins.
Oh.
Harry Potter in the Chamber of Secrets.
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Yes.
You have to buzz.
I'm a sequel savant. I'm a
sequel, Savant. I'm reigned
of seagulls, apparently.
At the end of the universe
lies the beginning of vengeance.
This is from a 1980s.
This is an example of a movie where the sequel,
yes, Karen.
Star Trek, the wrath of Khan.
Star Trek 2, the wrath of Khan.
Oh, yeah.
What is?
Yes.
Sometimes they have the number in there,
sometimes they don't, yes.
I was going to say is one of the examples of movies
where I think a lot of the fans consider
the sequel better than the first, which is
not that common.
The rematch of the century.
Don't overthink it.
Dana.
Rocky two.
Rocky two.
The rematch of the century.
The perfect boyfriend.
The perfect life.
What could possibly go wrong?
Karen.
Bridget Jones and the edge of reason.
Again, I will accept it.
Bridget Jones' diary.
Bridget Jones, colon, the edge of reason.
Oh, okay.
Yes, close enough.
Oh, I say and the?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, it's not a Harry Potter book.
Yeah, in the...
It's also British.
All right, last one here, guys.
I think you guys have gotten everyone here.
There are some places in the universe you don't go alone.
Karen.
Aliens.
Yes.
Oh, right.
Aliens.
That is stalling.
Yeah.
I'll just buzz.
That's the way to do.
The buzz and think.
The buzz and think.
All right, well done, well done.
So when we're referring to sequels, we usually think about books, maybe albums, definitely movies.
But I want to talk about sequels of people.
Like that time we cloned ourselves?
Yeah, more like juniors when people are named junior.
So Chris, what is your full name?
My full name is Chris Michael Kohler, Jr.
Wait, not Christopher?
It's not Christopher or Christian.
It's just Chris?
Your name is Chris?
Only Chris.
I don't think I knew either of those pieces.
I didn't know that you were just Chris or that you were a junior.
Everything actually all ties together, too, so I can tell the story of why.
Is Chris Michael Kohler?
Yes, yeah.
Like, importantly, I'm a junior because we really do have the same name.
But like George W. Bush is not a junior because his name is actually different than his
George Herbert Walker Bush, right?
Oh, so it's when your name is identical.
It has to be identical.
Okay, got it.
No, but I am a legit junior.
My dad was sixth of seven children, so my grandmother had already gone through a bunch of names by that point.
But my dad was born on Christmas Eve.
And grandmother was going to name him Christopher, but then had a change of heart and thought to herself,
this is going to be too hard for him to spell.
Low, low expectations.
You know what?
Very low expectations.
She raised five other kids.
She knows what kids do.
She knows.
So I have a weird piece of information about juniors.
In the 1940s, one study found that juniors made up 76% of the permanent elected officers of the Harvard class of 1945.
Interesting.
So, I mean, now I think it has fallen out of favor to name your kids junior or have the same name as you and then junior at the end.
Oh, yeah.
It's not as popular as it once was.
Yeah, because, you know, maybe back then it was kind of like, oh, it's pride, the lineage, you know, that kind of stuff.
Now, most parents want individuality for their kids.
But on the other hand, in a 1971 study, they found there were three times as many juniors in psychiatric treatment as in the general population.
Really?
Wow.
Well, it really might have to do with putting your crap on your baby.
Right, right.
There's a lot of expectations like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that's what.
Just data points.
You can make up your correlations.
Correlation is not causing you.
Make up some theories.
So here I have a very quick lightning round quiz of famous people who are juniors.
All right.
I'm going to read you a hint, a clue about this person.
Buzz in and tell me the person.
He can go fast.
All right.
He had a dream.
Dana.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Correct.
New Orleans crooner.
Oh, Colin.
Harry Connick, Jr.?
Correct.
Famously nicknamed John John.
Oh.
Colin?
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
Correct.
Breaking Lou Gehrig's consecutive games played streak.
Cal Ripton, Jr.
Correct.
Oh, very good.
1996, Oscar-winning actor.
1967.
Oh.
Dana.
Cuba Gooding, Jr.
Yes, Cuba Gooding, Jr.
she's all that heartthrob
Which one was that one?
Chris.
Who is
Freddie Prince Jr.?
Yeah, correct.
Oh, that's right.
Fun fact, he's a super big
WWE fan.
Really?
Yeah, and now works as a director
and a producer for the WWE Corporation.
Really?
Uh-huh.
He started out writing blog, posts about,
you know, his thoughts on what's going on in
WWE and, you know, he made some
cameos, but yeah, now he is a
working director and producer. That is interesting.
Yeah. All right, and last one.
Nobel Peace Prize winner,
Academy Award winner, Emmy Award
winner, Grammy Award
winner, and the first
emperor of the moon in Futurama.
Barack Obama, Jr.
Incorrect. I don't know.
Oh, is it? Oh.
Is it Bill Clinton?
Incorrect.
Is it Al Gore Jr.?
Yes.
Al Gore is a sneaky junior, drop the junior.
Pretty cool resume.
Yeah, and his daughter, Kristen Gore, was a writer on Futurama and also Saturday Night Live.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's why in Futurama, Al Gore voices himself.
Oh, that's why they can get him.
Yeah.
Very cool.
All the people in this quiz actually had something in common is that,
their fathers, who are the non, the non, the seniors, I was going to say the non-junior version,
the original. The seniors, they were all accomplished as well.
Right, in their own right. Yeah, in their own right. So it could be, maybe they decided to
use their actual junior names or change their junior names to match their father's name because
of the legacy. So a lot of guys, when you see dudes who go by Trey or Trip, those are
threes. Yeah. Those are people whose dad and grandfather shared their name. And so,
For a little minute, even further confusion, they call them Trey or Trip, meaning three.
Well, in the spirit of metaphorical sequels, I think that we've talked on the show before about products.
You know, they're so successful, they're like, we've got to find a brand extension.
Oh.
And I think that those are, in some sense, spiritual sequels to products.
So I've got a story about some brand extensions gone well and some then later followed up not so well.
You know, we love talking about failure here on the show.
I mean, and, you know, like at the root, I understand the desire.
You've got some success.
You want to turn it into new success.
It makes sense, but it's not always very well thought out.
So you guys, I'm sure, know the company Clareall.
They are quite well known.
They are an American company.
They were founded in the 1930s, and their whole business was all around hair coloring, originally.
And they still are a huge part of their business is hair color, at home hair color.
They also do a lot of shampoos and things like that.
Originally, when they were founded, all they did was hair color.
They made kits for salons, for pros.
And they were doing quite well, you know, selling all through the 30s, 40s, 50s.
Oh, and they're just selling to actual salons.
Okay, got it.
Right, right, right, right.
They were quite successful just based on some new techniques and new quality of hair color that they did.
It was very easy and very fast.
But what really made them was...
The American Way.
A household name was in 1956 when they turned to the home market with their product, and they introduced Miss Clareall.
Technically, the full name was the Miss Clarell hair color bag.
The rub of it was this was the first all-in-one do-it-in-one-step-at-home kit.
Like, people at first, they didn't believe how simple it was.
Because it was, you know, prior to that, it was a laborious job to get your hair colored.
They changed the whole perception of hair coloring, you know?
Like, it kind of became something that women maybe would even admit to doing.
So they were going along, selling kits like crazy.
As often happens, they were bought by a larger company.
They were bought by Bristol Myers, which is now Bristol-Myers Squibb.
And again, when you buy a smaller company,
that's very successful. Sometimes the first thing you do
is, all right, how can we cash in on the name?
What new things can we come out with
and build our business? And they were
fairly successful at first. In
1965, they came out with
nice and easy. Again, product
still on the market, still sells very well.
It was the first shampoo-in hair
color. And again, it seemed like magic.
You know, you just buy the bottle of
shampoo, colors in, easy.
Except the fact that your whole bathroom is
like a different color. Yeah, they never
show that part in the commercials. So if you
Cleaning out the bathtub.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man.
So they kept on trying to get into the shampoo business.
And it seems like a natural extension.
We're already dealing with hair.
You know, we can get into hair care.
And so they moved beyond just pure hair color-based shampoos into just regular shampoes.
And one of the products they came out with in some test markets at first, it was 1974, was a product called look of buttermilk shampoo.
That's what I want to think I'm putting in my hair.
Sure.
I think of ranch dressing
Like all over my hair
Buttermilk doesn't smell nice
So I want my shampoo to be chunky
And smell of vinegar
Yeah
Sure
You guys, it's perfect
You guys, this is exactly
The reaction consumers had
All of those things that you just said
It encapsulates it perfectly
It was, what is this
What does that mean
Look of buttermilk?
Not even buttermilk formula
It's the look
And do I want my hair to look like
Buttermilk?
And as you said, you know, the associations a lot of people have with buttermilk is, it kind of smells a little funky, it's sour, isn't that the lumpy milk?
Isn't that what that is?
Do I want my hair to smell sour and look lumpy?
Gorgonzola Glamour.
You're looking really cheesy today, honey.
It turns out there are some good elements of buttermilk that are healthy for your hair that go in there.
But they didn't sell it that way.
They didn't make it clear to women why they should.
want to buy shampoo that has
buttermilk in it. They just, they were maybe
too far ahead of their time with the
food-based shampoos.
But a lot of them are now
flavored or scented or in the name
has a food product. It's like,
with avocado oil.
Right, or coconut. Yeah, coconut.
Yeah, that's right. But here's the thing that they do
now, though, Karen. I'm sure you'll notice, they'll say
with avocado oil, that
enriches your roots or something like
that. You know, they make it clear, what's
the advantage here? Why do I
want it and they failed. They really failed. They pulled the product. They pulled
look of buttermilk shampoo. It didn't go over well. You're going to tell me you can't even
buy it today. It's a collective item, I'm sure. But I bet if you do actually wash your hair
with buttermilk, it might make it nice and smooth and soft. I don't know. We are not advocating
washing hair. I don't know. I'm going to try. So they're a good project.
So they failed on a few counts here. I mean, they failed with the bad name. They failed with
not making it clear why I want to buy this.
And they failed with really putting the food item foremost and not focusing on the shampoo
hair care part.
All right.
So they take it off the market.
Surely, surely they learned from this sequel failure of the shampoo that next time
we come out with something special, we're going to really get this right just from
the get-go.
Buttermilk, too.
In 1979.
Go vomit.
They debuted.
Touch of yoga.
What is wrong with these people?
Oh, man.
They just did some word substitution.
It's the same problem.
They didn't learn anything.
It's like fruits or like natural oils.
That's something, but not dairy.
Why?
No, you don't want to put dairy in your hair.
People are attracted to yogurt than buttermilk, though.
Yeah, it's better.
It's definitely a step in the right direction.
Or, excuse me, it's not a step in the right direction.
It's a smaller step in the wrong direction.
It's not a big step in the wrong direction.
bad step. Right, right. And again, yogurt just featured prominently on the label. They
sort of made an attempt at like, oh, this is, this is for oily hair. But okay, but why? Why does
the yogurt good for my oil? It's opposite. Cuts the oil. Yeah. And it did not. It just did not
catch on it for the same problems. It's just, it seemed like a food product. Like, do I, do I
eat this? Do I refrigerate it? There are, there are reports. What's the cell by date on my
touch of yogurt shampoo.
There are reports that there were some people who would drink it or eat it and get sick
from it.
It just was not clear.
This is not a food product, even though there was yogurt extracts in it.
And again, no making clear to the consumer why I would want yogurt in my shampoo.
And it did not go over well.
So this was a case of one good step leading to two bad sequels, at least in movies.
In movies, you usually get one bad sequel.
It's pretty rare.
Yeah, it's pretty rare to see.
go through the second one that has the plug pulled on it.
A dairy step too far.
They were supposed to fire their creative director.
They're underarm deodorant.
I know.
Cerns and weigh eye drops.
Their arm.
So cloudy.
I know.
You drop it.
They're like, no, no.
It's good for your eyes.
But you can't believe.
All right.
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You're listening to Good Job Brain, and this week we're talking about sequels.
All right, I'm going to name a couple of big Broadway shows in season,
or new ones that are going to be performed, and see if you can find something that they have in common.
Okay.
Rocky, the Bridges of Madison County,
Uh-huh.
American Psycho.
Aladdin and Big Fish
They're all movies
They're all movies
So here's a fun fact
We know the blockbuster Broadway musical show
Wicked
Universal is the majority investor
In Wicked
And Wicked has grossed
3 billion since 2003
from productions all over the world
Wow
Right
And Wicked is actually on track to become
The Most Profitable Venture
in the history of universe.
Really?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Yeah, it's colossal.
Makes more money than E.T.
than Jurassic Park.
And the beauty is, they charge a lot of money for a ticket.
Yeah.
Wow, you figured it out, Farron.
I figured out how they make all their money.
But then there's no window for a box office.
They can just keep showing the show around the world.
Oh, right, of course.
Oh, yeah, and people will see it again and again and you can't buy it on DVD.
It's like, it's not the experience.
Yeah.
It's an evergreen for them.
It's perennial.
Yeah.
So now Universal is trying or already.
Oh, sure.
Turning.
What else we got?
What else is in the ball?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Can we spin in a goal?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Animal House.
Oh, no.
The musical?
Into a musical.
Yeah, well.
Okay.
Back to the future.
Interesting.
The Sting.
Old movie.
Oh, that's a great one.
20th Century Fox is also.
on the train, and they're eyeing Mrs. Doubtfire.
Oh, I could see that.
I could see that.
The devil wears Prada.
Maybe not so much, but okay.
Yeah, I never know.
And Warner Brothers, actually, this is a very good idea.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Oh, that would be fine.
Which is already a musical movie.
Yeah, again, that's one that seems, it's a short hop in translating.
Good one for Dana.
Warner Brothers is also trying to make Magic Mike into a...
Good one for Dana.
It's good one for Karen.
also for care
look at how quickly her eyes are
how excited
I just like to watch people do
hip hop dancing
in their underwear
wild shirtless and oiled up
yeah it's really like watching people dance
but this is kind of to me
it's sequel in another form
in another way that
companies can make money
you know I feel like there is some sort of joy
in seeing some of these movies become
Broadway musical sometimes their hits
Sometimes they are not.
The fact that they're making American Psycho
into a stage musical adaptation is...
That's interesting.
They're reaching.
I too have a quiz about sequels.
Sort of generally lumped around the general theme of
movie sequels, basically.
Just not taglines.
I will start out with this question.
I will need your answers in the form of the question.
Oh, you're punishing us?
Yes.
Just for this first one.
Oh, okay.
Reginald Vell Johnson came back for this action film sequel, but Alan Rickman did not.
Dana.
What is Die Hard 2?
Yeah, die hard too.
Bruce Willis also came back, but that would have been a little bit easier.
He was the cop.
He was the cop.
Just as an aside, it would have required quite a plot twist for Alan Rickman to come back.
As a ghost.
Because he died big time.
Yeah.
He died big time.
I'm going to, I'm going to name him.
I'm going to name you guys the names of three pairs of male and female, an actor and an actress each, three pairs.
Okay.
And what I want you to say, these people portrayed the same grouping of characters in three successive films.
And from these actor and actress names, I want you to be able to figure out, I want to tell me who the characters were.
Oh.
Yes.
All right.
Anthony Michael Hall and Dana Barron.
Jason Lively and Dana Hill
Johnny Galecki and Juliette Lewis
Colin
These would be the Griswold children
They are
The vacation movies
Rusty and Audrey Griswold
Yes
So first the role originated of Rusty Griswold
By Anthony Michael Hall
Played in Christmas vacation by
Johnny Galecky
The Star of Big Bang Theory now
And Juliette Lewis
Was Audrey Griswold in that film
Speaking of Chevy Chase, who was, of course, Clark Griswold in National Lampoon's Vacation,
he was in a movie sequel that was originally built around a character played by Rodney Dangerfield,
and Warner Brothers sued him when he backed out of this film.
Of the film's original ensemble cast, only Chase reappeared in The Sequel.
What is the sequel I'm talking about?
So Chevy Chase of the movie's original ensemble cast was the only one to appear in the sequel.
Would that be Caddy Shack?
It is, Caddyshack too.
Really?
Tagline, the Shack is back.
Harold Ramis, who directed Caddyshack, did not want to do a sequel.
Warner Brothers, I believe, really pushed him to do it because they knew we'd make a bunch
of money.
They got Rodney Dangerfield for it, but he backed out afterwards, and they sued him.
But only Chevy Chase remained, and he famously regrets having done it.
Was it not good?
Not good.
Not so good.
Some good moments.
No Bill Murray.
but it's not no Bill Murray, no Rodney Dangerfield, no nobody.
Yep.
Name all the films in the Jaws series.
Oh, man.
All right.
Karen.
Jaws, Jaws, Jaws 2, Jaws 3, Jaws 4.
No.
That was what I was going to do.
But you know what?
A good try.
Jaws, Jaws 2, Jaws 3D.
Is that?
Yes.
Yes.
And Jaws 4?
Ever.
No.
Jaws 4 ever.
Yeah.
What is it?
You're right on the first three
It's Jaws, Jaws 2, Jaws 3D.
What was the name of the last Jaws movie?
To step up to the streets.
It is Jaws, the Revenge.
Oh, yes, the Revenge.
Jaws for every.
Four dash every.
Four Jaws, Four Furious.
So technically, the Silence of the Lambs is
technically a sequel, technically, to what
1986 film?
Colin?
That is Manhunter.
It is Manhunter.
Oh.
They did a film.
The book originally that introduced Hannibal Lecter was called Red Dragon.
Right.
They retitled the film to Manhunter.
And so Silence of the Lambs technically is a follow-up to that.
Wait, but they also did make Red Dragon.
They did.
So is that the same movie as Manhunter?
It's the same story as Manhunter.
The Manhunter of the movie totally changed a whole lot of stuff.
I mean, some people think it's brilliant.
Other people think it's not very good.
I fall into the Not Very Good Camp.
Red Dragon was much more, you know, along the same lines of what Thomas Harris had written in the book.
Okay.
Steve Cubine and Nan McNamara's podcast from Beneath the Hollywood Sign.
Mary Astor has been keeping a diary.
Mary writes everything down.
And so this torrid affair with George S. Kaufman is chronicled on a daily basis.
In great detail.
And Iph pulls out a box and gives McAllister a ring saying, here's something to remember me by.
This article caused Daryl Zanick to hit the roof.
Actress Ruth Roman followed that up with playing a foil to Betty Davis in Beyond the Force.
I mean, if you can stand toe to toe with her, boy.
And she does because she plays the daughter of the man that Betty Davis kills out in the hunting trip.
And it's directed by King Vidor, so he's no slouch.
How do you go wrong with that?
Speaking of the Oscars, talking about what I call Beginners Luck,
It's all about the actors and actresses who won an Oscar on their very first film.
Get your fix of old Hollywood from Stephen N.
On the podcast from Beneath the Hollywood Sign.
So the back half of this quiz, I'm going to name a movie sequel,
and you will tell me if that sequel is a real thing or if I just made it.
Oh, no.
All right.
All right.
Ace Ventura Jr. Pet Detective.
I don't know.
True.
Yeah, it's true.
2009.
I follow up on the Ace Ventura franchise.
I keep myself impressed.
I subscribe to several Ace Ventura Pet Newsletters.
Several.
The major rules.
The good ones.
Yeah, I mean, the cream of the crop.
Obviously, I don't have time to read them all.
Office Space 2.
Office Space 2.
Colin?
I'm going to say no, because I hope it's not.
No.
That's fake.
It's fake.
They tried to get Mike Judge to make one, but he exercised Judge.
I can see that as a TV movie.
Yeah.
A lot of these, a lot of these were.
Okay.
Disney's Robin Hood 2.
Back to Sherwood Forest.
Dana.
There was a sequel to that.
I'll say yes, sis.
No?
There was no.
There were sequels.
There were direct-to-video sequels to a lot of Disney movies, but nothing for Robin Hood.
No prequels, no sequels.
I would watch it, though.
Charlotte's Web 2, Wilbur's Great Adventure.
Oh, my God.
Sounds real.
If you...
Spider's still dead.
I'm going to say true, and it was probably not a book.
It was like a movie.
That one is real.
That is a movie.
If it was fake, I was going to be very impressed with your name.
Because it sounds real.
You don't like back to Sherwood Forest?
I mean, well, I was looking at a list of Disney sequels, and I was like, man, they made it out of everything.
They really did.
They did three Cinderella's.
Rocky Horror Picture Show 2, colon, Frank and Furterer.
I'm going to say false
That is false
That is false
Too good
Yeah
Too good
They're actually
They did a
A musical movie follow up
To Rocky Horror Picture show
Using love of the same character
It's called shock treatment
Oh okay
Right
Right
That was a failure
And then it kept being a failure
Instead of a failure
That became a cult classic
Westside story two
No
But maybe
I'm gonna say true
No
I didn't feel good about it
No, but I can see it's like the new
Survivor.
Or like Grease 2.
How did you make that?
A movie that keeps coming up,
Mean Girls 2.
Mean Girls 2.
Karen?
It exists and it was on TV the other day.
It was, yeah, actually.
It's horrible.
Any of the original people in it?
No, of course not.
Street's DVD TV movie.
After I wrote this, like literally like the day,
I wrote this in the morning and then that after
noon. I hear Regina, my fiance, in the other room saying, there's a mean
girl's two? And she just turned it on. Yeah. Bambi two. Bambi two.
Oh, no time. Yes. Yes, there is a Bambi two. It's actually a, what's known as a
midquil, not a prequel nor a sequel, but a sequel that took place in the middle of the
first movie while Bambi was alive, but before his mom died.
Wait, while Bambi was, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it starts when he's born.
Yeah, yeah, it's not, it's not like prior to his birth, right.
Expanded Bambi universe.
Spaceballs 2, the search for more money.
Oh, that's a...
I say yes.
Show of hands, who says true?
I say it's a trick.
I like it.
I'm going to say yes.
And if it's not, then I think Chris deserves cool points for a good name.
I'm going to say, I'm going to go Dana.
Yeah.
This is the trick question.
There was no movie called Spaceball.
However, in actual Spaceballs, they make the joke about it.
And then Space Balls, too, the search for Morrani.
It sounds like a Mel Brooks joke.
And that's why I was like, it's like you got his voice perfectly, Chris.
You get points.
Marley and me, the puppy years.
I've seen this book.
Marley and me, the puppy years.
The original was the one with Owen Wilson.
Based on a book.
So I can see the book exists.
Yeah, I can see or being like a direct-to-video thing kind of thing with none of the original people.
I'll say yes.
I'll say it does exist.
It does exist.
Marley and it is exactly what you think it is.
There's a show on Animal Planet called Too Cute, and it's basically just video of puppies with some colorful narration.
Never a person.
It's only, it's only animals yet.
And maybe, like, at the end, they get adopted and their kid is hugging the dog.
But really, it's just jaunty music with videos of puppies and other baby animals.
So soothing.
Yeah.
So I can, of course, Marley and me too, the puppy is not.
It writes itself.
It writes itself, yeah. Credits, puppies, credits. Done.
And finally, UHF2.
Oh, goodness.
U.H.F. Man. This is going way back. This was not a well-received movie.
I'll say false because I hope it doesn't exist.
That is false. I made that out. Wouldn't it be great if it did, though? Maybe it would be good.
Just as like a thumb in the eye, all the people who hated the first one.
People didn't like UHF?
It got terrible reviews.
It really did. Yeah.
Yeah, I could seem to them doing a second one because it's kind of self-indulgent.
So it seems like, oh, well, I liked it.
I'm just going to keep making them, whatever.
Weird Al would just finance it himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want to see all the fake shows, like Wheel of Fish.
Yes.
And Gandhi, too.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
All right, and that is our show.
Thank you guys for joining me.
And thank you guys, listeners, for listening and hope you learn a lot about,
well, we talk about movie sequels a lot.
Mm-hmm.
But there's also Broadway sequels and hair care product sequels.
and people sequels.
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It's great.
Not to toot our own collective horn,
but I was looking through the list.
I was like,
there's some good stuff on here.
There is, yeah.
And a lot of,
Some of them are listeners suggested, too.
So, yeah, listeners keep us sending us suggestions for your favorite kind of trivia books and weird history books.
And I guess we'll see you guys next week.
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