Good News York by Growth Mode Content - GNY EP. 30 Feat. Gregg Ordon From CNY Headshots

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Good News York: Interview with Gregg Ordon and a Humorous Take on Headlines In this episode of Good News York, hosts Matt Masur and Mike Brindisi kick off Tuesday Newsday with a lighthearted introduction, followed by an engaging interview with guest Gregg Ordon, a headshot photographer with an impressive resume. Gregg shares insights about his career journey, his focus on niche photography, and his mission to make clients comfortable and capture their best selves. The episode also spotlights a prank involving a football player's draft, an award-winning snow and ice control effort by Syracuse Hancock International Airport, and the unexpected news that Chubby Checker won't be performing at the New York State Fair. The hosts close with a heartfelt shoutout to fellow local content creator Alex and her podcast, highlighting the importance of community support in the creative industry. 00:00 Welcome to Good News York 00:31 Introducing Gregg Ordon: Photographer Extraordinaire 02:39 Gregg's Journey to Specialization 04:00 The Art of Headshot Photography 10:06 Booking and Session Details 20:53 Celebrating Phil's Birthday at Two Cousins Pinball Arcade 28:26 Nostalgic Arcade Memories 29:25 Arcade Road Trip Idea 30:44 Golden Tee and Bar Games 33:01 Prank Call Controversy 38:20 Youth Hunting Debate 41:18 School Hunting Day Memories 43:54 Syracuse Airport Snow Award 45:59 Chubby Checker Controversy 50:39 Shoutout to Local Content Creators 56:43 Closing Remarks and Upcoming Guests

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It's Tuesday Newsday again. We're going to, it feels like that was like yesterday. We like, didn't you just? Yeah. Wasn't it just Tuesday? Funny you say that when I was prepping for Tuesday Newsday, I was like, wasn't Tuesday New Day like two days ago? Yep.

But no, time flies. Hey. Time flies. Especially when you're having fun. And we are. And we're kicking off this news day with a guest. Yeah. Greg Orden.

Welcome to the show. Welcome. Photographer extraordinaire. This was the strangest morning for me because I came in. I was told we're getting head shots done. Okay. And I was just like, sure, sounds great. Well, I met Amanda, our new, what's her job title?

I don't want to say the wrong. She's operations person. Operations person. Her first day, my first day meeting her, and I said, nice to meet you. And then we hopped in a car, meet her and Danny, and we got pictures taken again. There you go. And it was awesome. It was a very unique experience.

I can't wait to talk about. This guy's, he's a real deal. So, just to be clear, you went to his place. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Yeah, we went to his studio. Yeah, yeah. Tell me a little bit. So, well, it's funny because when you pull in, it kind of has the effect.

It's a big parking lot, like with like a horseshoe of doorways, almost like a motel, but it's all business. I said if I was scouting for a film, it'd be a great, like. like scene for a shootout. Okay. But there were no shootouts. Fair enough. You went inside gorgeous studio. You're part of Retro GameCon.

I am. So, you know, so there was a lot of really cool stuff as far as Retro GameCon. But the studio. I mean, this wasn't, this was the real deal. Yeah? And I was telling him, you know, when I do impressions of, like, photographers and I'm trying to be funny, I do the whole, like, I look left. Give me something sassy.

You know, close up. Look sexy, you know. Pretend you're holding the subway sub. Singing to the camera, you know, do TLC, preferably scrubs. I want you to sing that. Yeah, he was very, Greg, you're a very hands-on, very, that's what you want from a photographer. Yeah. And that's what he gave us.

He wants one direct. Yeah, you want someone who's direct. I need direction, so. That can take control. Enough of Mike's review. Greg, tell us a little bit about your business and, and, you know, what you do and the type of folks that that you help. So, uh, I'm a portrait hedgehog photographer.

That's kind of what I've settled in as far as photography. Uh, about 20 years ago, I was kind of a generalist with as a photographer. I would shoot anything and everything just, just to make a buck. And the problem with that is, as you know, when you're, when you're, when you're generalist, you compete on price. So you don't compete on skills. You compete on the next guy neck or your competitor because he's going to charge $50.

Well, I'm going to charge $25 because you're trying to get that business. And the problem is it's a race at the bottom. And so about three to four years ago, I did a soul searching. You know, I said, you know, I don't want to be a generalist photographer. I want to actually niche in a couple fields and that's it. And get very good in those two fields. So basically all I do right now is events and I do portraits and headshots. And I've spent probably the last year and a half really focusing on headshots,

gone to several workshops. One of them is with Peter Hurley in New York's, New York City. city and really learning his style, his technique and how he gets the head shots that he does because that's the style that I really like. And it sets me apart from other photographers. Sure. Again, it allows me to charge what I charge without having to apologize for it or have it be the first part of a conversation.

Usually the first part for me is I like your work. How can we work together? What is it about a headshot specifically that you're, able to dig deep into you know what is it about that that you found interesting and how do you make it unique kind of for folks that aren't familiar with the style you've referenced so for me again and i'm going to compare it to event photographer an event photographer you know you're you know say if i'm there for two days for an event i'm shooting thousands of photos and i have interaction with someone for about 10 seconds and then i'm on to the next part of that event to try

to capture the event as a whole so i don't really get a chance to get to know people get to talk to people And that's the one thing I really do enjoy. So as a headshot photographer, you have no option. Like you have to kind of get to know someone. You have to kind of get into their psyche a little bit. You have to converse with them and be able to have a conversation. But also you have to kind of be a counselor to them. Like, you know, most people don't like a camera pointing in front of them.

Sure. And usually it's a negative reaction they have because they usually have some sort of Sears High School portrait or a high school portrait trauma. Right. Or they said, hey, you know, coming into the studio here, sit on this, you know, you know, a rackety chair, you know, do a weird pose. And you're like, and then a couple flashes later, you're like, okay, next. It was always jam the fist.

I never, you got to fit. I was talking about that. Yeah. I remember going. Watch yourself in the face. My brother and I. I feel like it was just a running. My mom took us to see her.

And I can only explain it. The only memory I have is it was, you know, in gymnastics, the horse that they vault over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like that, but with the weirdest bench. Yeah. Yeah. And it did that. And it was just very unnatural.

And to put some, you know, context. I was obviously making a joke earlier, you know, making light of how intense he could be. But it is what you want from a photographer. No, that personality that he's. Yeah. And I've worked with, I've gotten headshots done in the past. And this was the first time I worked in a studio of that caliber, but also with someone who took my joke and made it a reality.

You know, he was like, hey, give me this. I will say, he wanted me to. This thing is to have your neck forward like this, right? I call it. But literally this, so it feels very unnatural. Sure. But he assured me that I'm telling you, it feels weird. And then you look at the picture and you're like, oh, I don't look like that.

But it feels very weird. So, I mean, if you're going to, if you want to go to a photographer that's going to give you the, like, the absolute top of the line experience. Yeah. Greg, Gordon, this is the guy right here. That's, that's incredible. So, Greg, tell us a little bit about who and why do people get headshots, you know, who's, who's, who. Who's the target audience for this and why are they getting them? For me, my target audience is really corporate America and basically pretty much anyone that

needs to update a Huttshot. You know, I kind of target LinkedIn quite a quite a bit. Gotcha. But it's really anyone that wants to elevate their brand and, or as I call it, like level up their brand. A lot of people on LinkedIn have selfies. They have, you know, a photo they cut themselves out of, out of a group photo because that's the best photo they found themselves.

Or they'll try to take a photo of themselves. Like I get that a lot. Like, hey, I, you know, I try to have a photo taking myself with my own camera against a wall and I can't get it to look like your photos. Yeah, right. Imagine that. So they call my studio to get that type of work. Sure. And again, it's those type of people, people that also what I, the ones I really enjoy working with are the ones that say that they don't have or they can never get a good photo themselves. Like they just, you know, and part of being, the photography part is easy. Like, like, you know, taking a photo, that's, that's easy part. It's a technical thing. Right. It's a technical thing. You know, once you have the technical side out of the way, now you have a human being in front of your camera that has all their issues.

They have, you know, you know, self-loathing. They, you know, talk about them, down about themselves or in so part of my, part of what I do that I think I do very well in is I can be empathetic. Like I know how that feels. I sure have that had those same feelings by myself when a camera's pointed at me. and trying to get into their headspace, you know, basically be a counselor to them, listen to their issues too,

not just take a photo like, oh, this is the best photo of yourself, right? Yeah. You know, it's not about me at that moment. It's about the person in front of my camera. And so when I'm shooting stuff, you're seeing it in real time. You're seeing the photos come on the screen,

and it's a chance for both of us to evaluate what the images look like, you know, what I can do to be better, what you can do to be better. And it's also being frank with them. Like, you know, not trying to pretend to not say something because, you know, you're afraid to hurt their feeling. Yeah. But actually be direct.

Like, hey, you know, you're not tilting your head correctly. Or, you know, when you're smiling, you know, one side of your face is smiling, but the other is not. Yeah. And so when people can see that stuff in real time, they start reacting to it. And when it's also not being done in a mean or judgmental way, you're just here to help you out. Yeah. that, you know, the trust barriers or that the barrier that they have starts to go down. And like, they start to trust the process.

They trust me. And I trust them too. So, you know, at the end, you know, if you see images from someone that first came in the studio to the right before they left or this final session, night and day. Like, you know, it's expression changes that. And they become real expression. They become a real response to something instead of like, oh, I don't want to respond in front of this person because I'm afraid of how I look.

And to back him up, he is not afraid to tell you. In fact, at one point he said, stop, give me less trying to look like Frank Sinatra. Oh, no, let's go less serial killer here. My favorite part, though, is when you first got behind the camera and you went, ooh. And I went, that's a bad start. I never said that before until, just kidding. No, I know. But no, it's great.

And you want someone that direct, you know? Yeah. Because you did make me end up. you know, feeling comfortable and feeling more confident. And that's what you want from your photographer. That's awesome. Greg, let's talk a little bit about just the basics of how it works. So how long is a session and how far in advance should people book if they got a big event coming up or I need a new business card?

You know, what's your advice along those lines? So as far as the last part of that, as far as how far in advance they can book, I can pretty much work with anyone. I can try to fit them in a schedule, but my studio does book up pretty fast a week. So the quicker they know about it, the better. Just call and say, hey, I have an online scheduling calendar that I use. Awesome. But sometimes it's already booked. So if they can't find time, just call me and we'll figure out something.

As far as the turnaround time on the photos, from the time they get shot to the time I deliver. It's about a day, two days. Oh, wow. So it's pretty quick for that to get them in hand. Like, actually, the photos I took of, you know, Amanda, I had those, they're pretty much done. I already sent to Danny there for review. But as far as the process and how long the session is, it really varies on the person and the human in front of me. Gotcha.

It's, you know, some people, I've had CEOs come in that are camera ready that understand that process that have had training. So they warm up pretty quickly. They don't, you know, they don't have two hours to spend. They have 10 minutes. Sure. But they already understand what's going on. So they kind of follow direction with that. I also have people that come into the studio that.

don't have any camera experience. They never had a camera pointing in front of them, but in a negative way. Yeah. And now that person, it takes time to, again, break down their walls to get past their, their own barriers to get images out of them that resemble who they are.

So that could take 10 minutes. It could take 20 minutes. I've had clients take an hour, hour and a half. Gotcha. And again, it's just patience. So, you know, this is part of the session fee that I charge. I don't have a time limit on it. You know, it's just how long it takes to get it done.

Sure. You know, I have people bring in multiple outfits, you know, multiple looks. So sometimes, you know, guys and women are the same. Like they have clothing that they feel comfortable in and clothing they don't feel comfortable in. And sometimes when they come in for a headshot, they bring the stuff they are uncomfortable in because that's the image they think they're supposed to look at. Right. And say, hey, we're going to take those images. We're going to get those out of the way.

Let's try some other things. And you put them in comfortable clothing that. best represents who they are, their personality starts to change. So it's kind of listening to their needs, but also kind of being direct. You know, not, you know, at some point, my job is to take that, take, take the pressure off of them, right? You know, they're not there to have me ask them questions. They're there to have a picture taken and have some direction given to them. Sure. I want to do. So again, that can take 20 minutes, 10 minutes, you know. Gotcha. Yeah. I love, I love the you know, part of your business model, I guess, is you don't put a time on it.

And I think from a creative standpoint, I think that's good. I think it's important because from someone who now was one of your clients, I don't feel inclined to have the pressure of, you know, because like you said, you might be working with someone who's not comfortable in this. And now you add a time limit and they start thinking, I got to. So I don't know if you took that in consideration on purpose, but I think that's, I think that's great that you do that. And that's just part of, you know, going through there, you know, the workshops that I've gone through and just also shooting a lot of people that you start realizing that people are, everyone's different.

No one, you know, I don't have the same person that comes in the studio act the same way. Sure. So you have to kind of, you know, every, like here, every time that someone comes into your studio, you kind of have to figure out how the action kind of mimic it a little bit. Because clients like that familiarity. Yeah. So if someone comes in all quiet and timid and like, hey. I'm you know welcome the studio like I was minute they're gonna be like uh hold on a second like yeah you know or but again if someone comes in all you know wild full of

energy I have to match that energy right you know so and again but you also have to kind of push back on the energy too like you know okay save that for the session we're gonna you know um but it just really varies on the people on the person that's in front of me um I got you and like said it's you know I really care about what I do with the clients too and part of what I you're listening to a podcast right now driving working out walking the dog if you're into podcasts chances are you have something to say too with rssssdcum starting your own is free and easy upload an episode and we distribute it to apple podcasts spotify amazon music and hundreds more track your listeners see where they're from and start earning from ads like this

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I do is also really like to lift them up. Like it's not, you know, never about me. It's about the person in front of me. And that's really what I'd like to do. I love that. And that goes into, we had a conversation at your studio about AI. And, you know, AI is great for a lot of things, specifically post-production. But I said, I am from a firm belief.

and you'll never beat human interaction. And that's a perfect example of the way you're reading your clients, reading the room, knowing what to say and how to say it. You're not going to get that with AI. Or even the way I watched him touch up the photos after, this isn't like we're choosing a filter on Instagram. I mean, these are nuanced.

There was one Matt that said armpit something. I was like, there's an armpit filter? Like, it's very nuanced. And you're not going to get that with, with with a i mean i guess that is a i but but you know what i'm saying it's just uh the the human element of it is so important yeah well i mean when you think about photographs or marketing a branding anything like that a headshot is the most human thing you could have so you know if there

was ever a place to uh to save the technology for you know at least after the shots are taken it's your personal brand yeah and what i tell people too is you know if they're on the fence on investing in this is when you're on LinkedIn, looking at other people's profiles, the statistic of someone that stays on your profile is about three seconds. You have three seconds to capture their attention from your profile or they're moving on. So if your profile is not up to snuff as your competitors, you know, sorry, not sorry, but they're going to go on to that, you know, it's an impression first platform. Sure.

So what you're saying is I should just find a better looking person to use in my photos. Stop. We talked about you, actually. Oh, Jesus. Here's another reason why this guy is so great. He was talking about wardrobe and says, look, Matt lives in hoodies. And he's like, that's fine. And he's like, and we'll take a picture in that hoodie.

Like, we'll make it look good. Capture that's where you are. That's your brand. So, yeah. It's good. It's awesome, man. That's awesome. Greg, how do people find you?

We should probably tell people. They can find me on LinkedIn. They can find me on Instagram. LinkedIn, just look at Greg Ordone or D-O-N. I think Instagram is seen why Hetshots 315. My website's GTOFoto.com,

which is in the current stages. We put that up on the screen. Current stages are being rebuilt, but it's good enough for what I need it for right now. It'll get you there. Yep. Awesome. And then my portfolio is up there,

so they can also take a look at that work. That's awesome. And they also go to Hetshotcru.com. If they look for photographer, in Syracuse, New York area. They'll see my profile there, and that's actually where a really good body of my work is in the top-notch images that I have up there. Greg, do people typically come to you on an individual basis,

or do you have companies that say, hey, we need to get a bunch of our folks' headshots sort of thing? I have both. So basically, I do have the individuals, but then I also have, you know, their marketing people or the communication people that reach out, say, hey, we need to get group hotshots for our employees. and can you come on site? And that's the, you know,

so my entire studio that you saw, I have a traveling version of that that basically can go on site. Oh, wow. Basically set up, you know, in the 10 by 13 space, pretty much, and get those type of headshots that I get into the studio.

That's great. That's awesome. We had a great time, man. Thank you for having us. You guys will see the photos. The results. I think we have footage, too. Danny took a lot of footage,

so it was a great time. Mike's LinkedIn traffic is going to sky. Look out. People are going to spend four seconds on my LinkedIn now. Not three. Beat all the algorithms, buddy. You know this. I'm excited.

I'm excited. Did you guys get pictures of Danny too? No. Actually, I've got it. I've got it from pre-I know. I think I actually noticed that on your profile as I was zooming through. Hey, I know that guy. Yeah.

Awesome. Greg Orden. Is it just Greg Orden photography or GTOFoto.com? GttoFoto.com. That's it. That's it. Greg. Thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks for having me. And for having us at your place. We got some other team members who weren't there today, including myself, and we're going to send them to you sooner than later as well. I'm excited. Make you guys look like rock stars on. That's great. Before you go, though, turn your head to the left.

Chin forward. Arms out. He's trying to get some payback here. Thanks. I'm welcome. And we will be back with all of the news. Tuesday, Newsday. All right, not all the news, but some.

Some of the news. We'll give you some news. Yeah. Next. We're back. Oh, we're back. It's Tuesday Newsday. It's Tuesday news day.

It's Tuesday news, usually. On Good News, York. We are back. Great. Thanks for having our buddy Greg. Uh, stopped by earlier in the show. Take some great photographs of the team here. It's been a, it feels like it's four o'clock in the afternoon.

Because we had a busy, you know, we showed up. The only way I know it's Tuesday is because I just bought a new clock that's in front of us. I know. as the date or the day. The only thing that pisses me off, my OCD, is it's Celsius. There's got to be a switch. I'm sure there is. Yeah, it's wonderful.

We're really moving on up. By the way, shout out, I walked in, and we have a new operations manager, whatever her title is going to be. Amanda is not part of the team. I've never met somebody and then right away got in a car and went and got headshots done with them. But I highly recommend it because if you really want to get to know someone, go get head shots done with him. She's very lovely.

So welcome to the team Amanda. I wanted, I wanted to mention that. It's like one of those jobs where you got the work crew and they just stuff you all in a truck. Yeah, crew cab. I figured out with that three hours. Yeah, what that meant when I bought a truck. It's a crew cab. I'm like, that sounds cool. Did it get the crew? Yes.

They were, they, that was the hard part because I had nowhere for them to sleep, but we figured it out, air mattresses and stuff like that. Shout out, it's our friend's birthday. Phil. Phil Farda Yay!

That's all I got. I don't have a celebration. Happy birthday, Phil. The funniest man in the 315. I love him. It's his birthday today. Yeah. So we celebrated his birthday, actually, this weekend.

We went out with a bunch of folks, and I wanted to talk about this because we, to celebrate, we had some food at a great restaurant in Utica, but then we went to this new pinball arcade business. Oh, I didn't know you went there. Yeah. Two cousins, it's called. Now, here's a funny story. While I was there, I actually ran into one of my cousins.

That's a fucking... That's a true story. You want to talk about truth in advertising. I mean, this place really nailed it. That's unbelievable. Sorry, my head's exploded. So it's called two cousins. That's the name of the business.

You went there and unplanned, you ran into one of your cousins. So there were two cousins there. It's true. This is unbelievable. My cousin Carrie and her family, yeah. But anyway, we were there. Don't go to Dick, sporting goods. Jesus.

It's fine. Good. Those didn't see. So we were there for Phil's birthday party. We brought a group of people. And it was really cool. So how the place works is it's an unlimited play. You can either buy an hour or you can buy forever, I guess, well, that day.

So I think it was like $15 for an hour, 25 bucks are unlimited play. There's no quarters, there's none of that. So all the machines, you just walk up and play a game, which is pretty cool. That's awesome. They had a really good number of machines. So there was a good crowd. I mean, we brought 10 people, and there was a good number of people in there.

But still, there was always at least one machine available you could walk up to and play a game. You didn't have to really wait. And, you know, I don't know that we played all that. We only played for an hour. And I don't know that I hit every machine. So you tried them. Yeah, I tried to, as much as I, there's a few that I really liked, you know, and you play a couple games on them, but really in a place like that, it's like, just move on and, you know, give other people a chance, but also try all the different ones. Is this, so is it, is it more like an arcade feel, or is it like more of a bar room with it?

Yeah, so that's a great question. It's definitely not a bar. They don't have a bar, is my understanding. They did have a separate room where they had some food, pizza and stuff like that. Yeah. But in the main area, it is, I guess you'd say a lot like kind of an old school. arcade. So they had the games around the perimeter of the room. In the middle of

the room they had like an air hockey table, fuzzball table, some seating where you could just sort of hang out. Strictly pinball or do they have other arcade games? They had just a couple other games. Everything else is pinballed. It's kind of like when you go to like a seafood restaurant they can throw a couple chicken dishes on them just to make everybody happy.

I mean they're, I think that's their main focus is pinball, which is cool as hell. So is there, so I mean I consider myself a bit of a gamer. And, I mean, if you were a 90s, could you definitely loved arcades. Is there, I've never really thought about this? Is there like the holy grail of pinball machines? You know what I mean?

Like, is there one that's like the Babe Ruth rookie card? I'm sure there is. But you don't know which one. As much as I've enjoyed playing in the last month, I went to Vegas. I went to the Pinball Hall of Fame there. I'm not like a pinball aficionado to that degree. I bet there is, though. I'd be interested to find that up.

Yeah, if we get them on the show, we'll have to ask them. Because I'll tell you what, what I really, loved the most when I was at the pinball Hall of Fame. And same here at this place. They had a couple in this vein were the very old machines. The machines from like the 70s. Yes. And the reason why is they're just, they're a little different. You know, some of them are actually totally wood. And they're definitely more simple, but I don't know. I found them to be a lot more fun. And they had a few of those kind of classic ones. You know, they've got the space characters that's a classic 70s cartoon style character and it's

I don't know to me that's kind of fun so no it's absolutely awesome and I wonder I'm curious to know like do you think that maybe you would have been like do you think you went to two cousins first and then went to Vegas like because you went to like you went to Vegas you went to like this the mecca the mecca and then you went to two cousins

and I'm not sliding you know two cousins by any means but did that take away from it not at all what was funny is I happened to so I bought a pinball Hall of Fame shirt when I was in Vegas. And I wore that when we went there. Nice. And I told my wife,

we just watch, I'm going to look like a ringer walking in with my piece. And sure not, we walked through the door, and the owner of the place came up to me and started asking me about it. He hadn't been there. So he was asking me, you know,

what they had to offer and how it was set up and stuff like that. It was kind of cool. But, no, I don't think it, you know, obviously the one in Vegas has immensely more machines. Yeah. But like I said, we played for a good long time

and didn't hit the same thing twice, so I think that was a pretty solid experience. There's a handful of arcade games that are, I mean, huge nostalgia to me. And it's probably based around the Sanger Town Mall in Utica, New York, because that's where I grew up. But I also, you know, I remember going to bowling alleys.

My mom was in a bowling lead. Right next to the Panorama. Theater at the mall. Right around the corner from Taco Bell. At some point, they had like another one across the hall. Yes. Sort of came and went. But the core one was that one, Yeah, that had been... It was the best.

But I would say, for me, like I... That is an arcade. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I asked, you know, is there a holy grail of pinball machines? For me, there's like a handful of holy grails of just straight arcade games. Yeah. For me, it's like, when I think back to my child, I think of the Aerosmith gun game.

Remember the Aerosmith? Okay. You know what I'm talking about? It made no sense, like, why they threw Aerosmith in this gun shooting game. I loved the Ninja Turtles where you could play four. four players. That was a classic. I would say WrestleMania.

WrestleMania kind of same deal you could play floor across. I know I'm missing one. That's a real... There were the classics like Mortal Kombat. Yes. Street Fighter. I see like there's always some kind of Terminator shooting game. Yep.

Yep. Street Fighter. I don't know. Danny's the king of retro games. He's also younger, though. You got any input on this, buddy? Is there any particular, like, arcade machine that's really well? known. Yeah, one of them

is the Simpsons. Yes, I was going to go there next. It's an iconic arcade one. It's the four-player Simpsons one. You'd see like Soul Calibur in there along with the Mortal Kombat arcade cabinets. You know, I feel like in a good arcade you would want to see a Donkey Kong arcade cabinet and a Miss Pac-Man and Gallagher combo. I feel like that was very common back then. Yeah, I... He's hitting all the hits.

He is hitting all the hits. There's one, I I want to ask, Danny, you might know, down at Three Lives downtown, kind of the gamer bar, if you haven't been there. We're talking about a slightly different place now. But downtown Syracuse is totally cool. They had this one, though, that was a Japanese game that I personally wasn't familiar with, but apparently was super hot, very the arcade Japanese game to play. Do you remember what it's called by any chance? Hope it was. Was it 1941?

It's like, no, no. Oh, Jesus. No, literally. There was a game called 1941. It's something to anime. And I wanted to make a Pearl Harbor joke. And I'm not one of them. So I just, I don't know if you know it was.

I don't know off the top of my head. We're going to have to. Add them to the list of, because that's one of the coolest places in Syracuse. We need to do some cool stuff with that. I do remember there was always, I feel like every arcade I went to, there was this shooting game that really wasn't that good,

but every arcade had it. It was a blue gun and a red gun. That's the Terminator one. No, I feel like if it was, I would have loved the Terminator. It was, uh... You're thinking of time splitters? Time, that sounds right. Yeah, time splitters.

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Time splitters. The greatest one I ever played was down near the city. My mom's family was close to the city. This was in the 90s. It was a, and you got to remember back then this was, this was like mind-blowing. It was a, so you watched this video where you were in the Wild West with this old guy who was a prospector, and he was kind of the host of the game. And you would go through this town and you would shoot the old school, you know where they go and then they fall

but it was live video and it was just the coolest like now I see all the games and it's so outdated but that was one I wish I forget what it was called but we need to find I'm going to put this out there right now

we need to find a gaming sponsor who would cover the costs and we'll aggressively advertise their brand of course but cover the costs for us to do

some dedicated arcade content like I want us to travel to some of the unfortunately few or maybe growing number as we're talking about the two cousins just opening up I feel like this may be

maybe this is something coming back but we should do a sort of road trip tour style because like there's a place in Old Forge that's kind of a classic old arcade that's pretty cool

there's near enchanted forest yeah there's a bunch of these random places Sylvan Beach still exist Sylvan Beach my parents live there there's the is that still

they still got that with all the arcade games. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. That place legendary. But something like that, I would love to do and really highlight some of these things and find that out.

That would be great. I know there's got to be one of these or a few of these kind of Holy Graham. Holy grail. There's also a ton of, because, you know, back in my drinking days, there are a ton of dive bars everywhere in this country,

but definitely in New York State. You'll find some random gem arcade games in a dive bar. You'll be like, how is this here? It's funny you mentioned that because I was going to say, this is not necessarily an arcade game, but if you want to talk about the really well-known OG, it's going to be shuffle. Oh, I was going to say shuffle board. In the bars, though.

Oh, you're talking about golden tea. Golden tea. Golden tea. Golden tea. Hell yeah. Not in the arcades. No. But in the bars, it had a massive, massive following in tournaments.

Oh, dude. I bartended for so many. People would get in fights over that game. because it was, it had a modem. So you could, I mean, you could play, like, your score uploaded to, like, a worldwide leaderboard. And these guys, man, these regulars took it so serious. Yeah. You know.

They figured it out. One guy had a meltdown because he put the wrong initials in for the leaderboard. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he had no one to fight but himself. So he just took it out on everyone else. Right. It was great.

They were one of the only, really, of that style game that sort of embraced that connectivity, at least at that time. You're absolutely right. They were one of the first. That's pretty wild. And you're right. Like, if you saw Golden Tea, gold tea, I think it's golden. I think you're right. Golden Tee.

If you saw it in an arcade, it didn't have this. I said top golf. That's the actual golf. Yes. It has the same allure. It doesn't have the same allure as when you see it in a bar. Like, it belongs in a bar. Right. You know?

I thought you were going to say shuffleboard. I love an old school shuffle board in a bar. Like the real deal. Remember they had the electronic, the bowling? Oh. You know, the Shepard style bowling that was like the puck-yed. Yeah. They had the backroom at Brownies.

Remember that? Uh-huh. I will die on this hill. The absolute best bar room game is the plastic dome hockey, USA versus Canada. Okay. That to me is for infinity. It's one of the greatest games you can. I don't care what age you are.

I just came across one in Canada not long ago. We went to Niagara Falls over the holidays. And they had one. and I could not believe it. I shit my pants, and not because I was excited. I have IBS, but I also played that game, and it was great. You know what I'm talking about, the plastic dome? Yeah, yeah, and they got the da-da-da-na-na-na-na-n-er.

It's just, it's magical. And on that, no, happy birthday Phil Farty. Happy birthday, Phil. You want to hear about some news? Please. All right, here's the good news. Actually, this isn't really, well. So, Matt, and I'm so glad you don't know.

Of sports. No, no, no, because I want your take on this because you have a very unbiased take. You don't follow sports. That's true. Long story short, there was a quarterback that was supposed to go in the first round. Okay, and he's Dion Sanders son. Do you know who Dion Sanders is? Sure.

He heard the name? Dian. Okay. He doesn't. But yes, yes. So he's one of the most famous athletes of all time, one of the greatest football players of all. It's his son. Okay.

Here's the problem. He sucks? He doesn't suck. He's not that great. Fair enough. And he's as cocky. as his father, if not more. He ended up sliding to like the fourth,

I think the fifth round, which is insane. And it became this huge... That means everybody passed over him. Everybody passed over him. It became this very controversial thing on social media between media and fans. Some people thinking it was a racial thing. Some people thinking it was unfair.

Some people thinking... Is it that folks just assume because he's a Nepo baby like this, he should just get... his spot, that's kind of where I air on the side of things. I think I, there was a business. Right.

There was a team that can win. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. When you draft him, you're going to get an above average player and you're, but you're going to get a media circus, you're going to get his father tripping and you're, there's a lot. But they turned it into this whole debate. But something

that happened during the draft that was crazy. Okay. It was right around the fourth round, a video surfaced online where two kids, they look like they're college age, pranked him. And what happens with football players is they keep their phone handy, right? Call him and told me he made the team or something? Right. So when you get drafted, usually the GM of the team calls you and says, hey, buddy, we're going to take you next, right?

So these college kids got his phone number, took a video of themselves calling him and telling him, hey, we're from the Saints, we're going to draft you, just kidding, you gotta wait longer. And then video surfaced to the other side of him picking it up and the poor guy's excited. Turns out, the kids that made this call, he's the son of one of the Atlanta Falcons coaches.

And his dad left the lap because nobody's supposed... He got the number. Because you can't, I mean, only GMs would have his number. So now the Falcons are in trouble, the coach is in trouble. Here's my take. 15-year-old me thinks it's fucking awesome. It's a little funny. it's a little funny. Older Mike thinks, man, that's kind of shitty. So I'd love to know your take on it.

Well, so here's the first thing. Um, A, for the kid, it's real shitty because of what he did was dad for, for really no other reason, right? Like, that's one of the things. And of course, kids never think about this. But, uh, you know, you pull a prank, you get caught, ha, ha, whatever. But the fact that you know where you got that and you know that that's going to reflect on somebody else, that's, that's shitty. of the kid, right? The least he could have done is like, you know, fine, get that number to somebody not connected somehow. I don't know. Or don't film your face. But, yeah, yeah. The other side of that is, you know,

I guess I could see to some degree. It's funny, but you're also fucking with this dude. You know, this is the biggest point in this. It really is. And you're going to mess with him. You know. It's not really, that's not fair. It's, uh, this is a prime example of when I say,

and I think I've said it on this show. I think, God, we did not have this kind of social media when we were in high school. I would have been dead or arrested. I would have done the dumbest shit. I mean, he's just a college kid being a college kid, you know? But I'm genuinely sort of torn on the idea of pranks in general. And, you know, we all would joke around and I think that's great.

Sure. But, like, when you had things like punked. Yeah. You know, in some of those shows, and you'd see, some of them a lot of times they made it very, convincing that a real thing was happening. Justin Timberley cried. And yeah.

Remember that? People really react or they take a swing at you. Yeah. And, you know, like... I did a lot of pranks in high school. I don't know. Fake poop in the carrots. You know, little jokes here and there are one thing, but I don't know.

Then one time I criscoed the auditorium... It was a dumb thing by those kids. The auditorium walkway and this kid Jeff slipped and hurt his back. I'm mad. What's the... Yikes. What's the consequence? What's going to happen?

Well, it's under investigation. So I feel bad. I honestly, at this age, I feel bad, like you said, for the dad who's in the grand scheme of things, like there was a fucking phone call. That's not. It's going to be over in two days. They're going to forget about it. But yeah, that.

But it was, it was pretty wild to see that happening live. And, man. Yeah, that went viral real quick. A lot of clicks for ESPN. A lot of clicks for ESPN. They probably should. Pay that kid's legal bill. Yeah, it was pretty wild.

I had something else I wanted to say about it, but I forgot. So I guess it doesn't matter. All right. But yeah. What else we got? Well, there's my coffee. Good thing it was empty. For you hunters out there, it may be time to consider changing the age limit for hunting in New York State.

The youth turkey hunting season for kids in New York currently in New York State, it allows for kids to hunt for turkeys before the regular season starts in May. All right. The hunt... Just for kids' portion of the season. I guess so. Now, the hunt will be held over two days on the 26th and 27th of April, which happened two days ago. Yeah. Right. Eligible hunters are youth from 12, 13, 14, or 15.

Holding a hunting license in turkey permit. Kids have to have an adult with them. Okay. But in many other states, the minimum age required for youth hunting is much lower than New York State. For example, bordering states like Pennsylvania start kids out before 10 years old. According to Pennsylvania hunting long, kids can hunt as young. young as seven. So, you know, I don't know.

At this point, there does not seem to be any action toward lowering the minimum age requirement in New York State. However, there are some hunters that feel they want their kids to start a little younger. And I don't know. You know, that's a tough call. Yeah, I don't know that we need to. I don't know if we do either. It's the year 2025.

Yeah. I get that, like, and I got no problem with hunting. No. And I have no problem also with. you know, firearm safety. And even at that younger age, I don't know if there's any law that says you can't begin to teach firearm safety, maybe even target shooting, things of that nature.

Sure. Do they need to be hiking around in the woods with a firearm at that age? I don't know. I just don't know if I necessarily see the value in that. Yeah. You know, I used to be very against hunting when I was younger because I have this whole scenario where I love the art of hunting. You don't want to kill Bambi.

Well, kind of. Yeah. I love the idea. of hunting? I think it would be amazing. But then I have this part of me that goes, but what if I shot this deer, and he was just on his way home from work, and he was going to see his baby deer,

and I just shot him, because Mike wanted to, and to eat some venison. But then I hit a deer multiple times at my car and had to pay for it, and I'm like, fuck them. And I was like, guns ablazing, go get them, boys. Truth be told, as many hunters will tell you, deer are actually sort of like giant rodents, and there's a little

bit. There's a little bit of population control. It's really... No, it is a real thing. Also, venison tastes really good, honestly. Yeah. But I'm personally not a hunter myself. Again, I don't have anything against it, but I've just never been super interested in that part either. You know, at the same time, a lot of people are. It's a lot of family tradition. It's a skill that I think we definitely don't want to lose because, God forbid, there might come a day when we need it to survive. But, again, I don't... I just don't know what the... the value is in having a 10-year-old. I agree.

You want to hear something wild. Or turkey, I guess, in this case we're talking about. Sure. Not even deer. You want to talk about times changing. Now, this had to be 1996, 97, I don't know, 95, whatever. I feel like that wasn't all the times. Herkimer High School in Mohawk Valley, that's where I grew up.

This is a true story. I remember multiple times on Hunting Day. The principal would let me. the kids in Herkimer that hunted hunt and then as long as you had a note you would come in after you hunted in the morning. Here's the wild part. They didn't want you to keep your guns in the car.

Right. Okay. So the principal would wait at the side door and you would bring your firearm in the school. Holy shit. No bullshit. I'm assuming unloaded. And he would walk you to your locker

so that you could safely put it in your locker. Now, if you think about it, seriously? I swear to, I swear, I don't know why I knocked on wood. That made no sense, but I swear to God. And looking, now remember, this is the 90s. I don't want anyone emailing Herkimer's school.

This isn't going on now. I'm assuming it made, it kind of was a, this was before Columbine. The same way they would in other. It was before Columbine, before all that stuff. It was honestly safer for him to watch you put it in the locker than just leaving it out in the car. It's just a wild concept. But it is, we are so, so, so far removed from that. We've gone to the point where there's been teachers.

Maybe even there's one story I feel like it might have been a principal, was going hunting after work, had his gun secured, unloaded, safely in the trunk where it should have been way out in the parking lot, but mentioned that fact that he, you know, and he got arrested and all these things, like he brought a weapon to school to cause some sort of harm, you know. So that's wild.

It is wild. And I also remember my neighbor was a hunter. and he had an old school Ford Bronco which God, it was gorgeous now that I'm looking back Yeah And he had this thing It was like a

Almost looked like a roller Was his last name Simpson? No It was a white bronco But it would So in the back You know how like It was like a hatchback

Yeah yeah It was weird So in the back This roller was attached To the back seat And then you would pull it And it would cover The floor

And it was so you could put your guns in there And it was the same color As the upholstery It would look like there was nothing in there so you could hide your guns. Gotcha. But again, these were all... I think it's just to store your gun technically. Which, actually, now I know why O.J. owned a Bronco.

Put the knives in there. Anyway, this is so weird that I have to talk about it. It's great. All right. But when else is the Syracuse Regional Airport going to get some loving for the award they won for snow and ice control? Yeah. Come on. That's right.

The Syracuse Regional Airport, operator of Syracuse-Hancock International Airport, has won an award for snow and ice control efforts. They won the Balkan Post Award for Outstanding Achievement in Airport Snow and Ice Control for the small commercial airport agency. Listen, I don't mean to cut you off. No, it's fine. If there was ever an award to win and be proud of in Central New York, he nailed it, it is this one.

It really is. Because I thought you were going to give us another award for how much snow got. You know, the golden snowball or whatever that bullshit is. This genuinely deserves recognition, and I'm excited to hear. And the reason I pulled it is because it's such an obscure award. I mean, obviously, you need to give up more of these. I'm citing CNY Central. That's where I got the story.

So they did get some love on it. Yeah. But I was like, no one else is talking about. And I want to shout out to our airport crew to keep us safe. To be considered from this award. Right here behind us. An airport must display excellence in the following areas. Now they give you criteria.

Damn. Degree of in-depth preparedness, including a comprehensive snow and ice control plan, equipment readiness, personal personnel training, safety awareness. Effectiveness of snow and ice control program, examining how well the program kept aeronautical areas safe. On and on and on. Timeliness and accuracy of communications

and post-storm activity, including cleanup. Wow. I just like that they keep track of this shit. Because you ever sit on a plane, especially in the winter? Yeah. And you're watching them de-ice and you're going, are we going to die today? And it's good to know that they know what they're doing.

They keep the runways clear. They keep the runways clear. Skidding like we do on... Shout out to Hancock and the crew there. We love you guys here at Good News York. Last but not least, this story is fascinated me only because I want to know what he could have done to deserve this. Despite his recent induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

Matt, I am sad to inform you that Chubby Checker will not perform at the New York State Fair in 2025. Chubby was not invited back, said his manager. She said, unfortunately, Chubby Checker... Is this like a fat-shaming thing? Could be. A fan favorite and staple at the New York State Fair over the years will not twist again like he did last summer. That's god-awful. Fans, friends in local media, were hoping to see him at his annual show this summer.

Fair Representative told his matter that Chubby was not invited back. Here's the thing. They don't tell us why. So that begs the question I'm asking you. What are some things that Chubby Checker could have done to not be invited? There's another story that came out that said they're booking this new act this year called Fit and Healthy Checker. Chubby Chubby Chess. Yeah.

Badoom. Come on, hit me. Chubby in New York State. We know that's fault. Here's the thing. I mean, who gives a shit? That's kind of what I was thinking. Like, not to knock, you know, and obviously he's still alive, so there's got to be people still alive who go to see him.

But I can't imagine there are that many. Well, and what, I mean, what's he going to perform? Retire. Twist over and over? Can I ask this question? I have an answer, actually. When the fuck did retirement become a horrible thing? I don't.

I do not. Where is this idea that, and, you know, who knows, God forbid, you know, something could have happened. And this guy had a very successful career, but, you know, maybe he genuinely needs to generate the income. But I don't know. Like, we got to make these people. I saw a video recently of Frankie Valley. Oh, God. I know exactly where he looks like a Chuckie cheese.

He looks like puppet. Animatronic like they pumped him up on everything they possibly could so he would just stand there. It's awful. And it's like, what? Come on, man. But you're doing incredible artists a disservice. I'm going to ruin this. To show them this way.

Here's the thing. You are not wrong. It's the old, you got to know when to hold them, no one to fold them, right? There's athletes that people go, I think you should have retired three years soon. I mean this in every aspect of life. But especially palpillar. I will ruin it by telling you, musicians, the reason you're seeing really, really old musicians, like Art Garfunkel wasn't touring and now, like, he played at the state theater years ago.

That's because in the music business, albums aren't monetary anymore. They don't have... You used to be able to record an album and then you would make what they call mailbox money, right? You're making money while you're asleep. Residuals. Every time somebody buys it, they play it on the radio, whatever.

Bands and artists now make all their money on touring and merchandise. So when the mailbox money starts running out for Chubby Checker, he's got to get his chubby ass onto the tour bus and he's got to perform to make money. And I mean, I can't prove that that's why he's touring, but I mean, that's the logical. but I got something else that's going to make you feel like

who gives his shit even more. I don't even think he wrote. I have to look that up. I don't think he wrote Twist. So it was written for him. A lot of famous artists haven't. It was like when Benny Mardonas would play every year.

I feel like... Love lives on some. I don't want to... I don't know the guy's personal situation and I certainly don't want to knock him because... No, no, no. We love you chubby. It seems like if you're successful in life, A, I wonder if that point if he ever thought

he was never going to live this long. You know, so I don't even make my money last until I'm 100. Is he going to twist again? It's on 100. And now suddenly you're like, I'm broke and I'm 100. But like somewhere along the line, I feel like there should be some sort of financial advisor and a plan that makes sure that you don't have to go to work at that age. So in other words, you're saying you want a 401K for musicians. You know, just some kind of intelligent planning so they could try to avoid the situation.

You know what I mean? I listen. And you hear about it. You hear about like professional athletes, you know, professional wrestlers that, multi-millionaires and that are all now broke. Oh, you know, a sad story. Fogarty, John Fogarty, I mean, he's fine now. He got ripped off badly by his management.

There's a lot of those stories. Well, I mean, there's stuff like that. And that is even less that you can blame the, you know, the artist. But I don't know, man. There wasn't as much transparency as, as. as now. Yeah. I mean, now, Wutang Clan has a residency in Vegas.

I mean, what a time to be alive. That is awesome. That is awesome. So on that, I'd love to end the show on some more positivity. Oh, so there are very few, and we've shout out a couple and we'll continue to shout out more. There's very few sort of serious content creators in central New York right now. And I don't mean there aren't a lot of people making podcasts. We're helping a huge number of companies start their podcasts here at Growth Mode content.

But companies like us creating shows sort of as a full-time business are few and far between. And we mentioned our friends at, what is it, 315? Yeah, we mentioned Love Living Local. That's it. 315. Again, I still don't know those folks, but they have reached out to us. We're going to have them on the show. And we love to see that.

And there's some other folks. I recently came across this podcast. I've been hearing a lot about it. I believe it's called Captivate CNY. Oh, with the Alex. It's from Alex who started the CNY Woman's Network. She's phenomenal. She is putting in the full-time effort to really build a strong and successful podcast.

And I really want to give her a shout out because she most recently did an episode that I think if you want to figure out what she's got going on, it's the one to check out. Because she recently did an episode where she kind of tells her story. It's just her. It's not a guest. And she goes into what she did, how she got there, and where she's taking it. And I gained nothing but respect for her listening to that episode because her story is awesome. And one of the things that I admire so much is one of these things that people give me compliments for and I feel uneasy about, which is that she's just doing it. Yeah.

Right? There's so many of these entrepreneurs we talk about and we see out in the world that they've got great. ideas and big dreams and all these other things, but you've got to just do it. That's right. You know, at any level. And that's what she's really stuck her knockout on, on multiple occasions. And if you listen to that show, you'll hear that she's just taking those steps necessary to give the thing a shot and it might not work.

But it is for her. And she's doing a great job and heavily integrating that content creation and podcasting, which obviously I'm nothing but a fan of. Yeah, and to further that, you know, first of all, I, you know, I have a young daughter, she's preteen, and I look to women in the media industry, well, in all industries, but in media like Mina Kimes from ESPN. And, you know, in Alex from right here in Syracuse as kind of like a bar of like, see that, you can do whatever you want. And I mean, look at these strong independent women, like, you know, representing women and doing their thing and doing it well. Right. And, you know, the other thing, I'm so glad you brought this up because, you know, I think there's this sense of competition in every industry, right?

Like, oh, you guys must hate that there's other podcasts and through. No. The more, the merrier. When you think about that, what a silly concept, right? It's the dumbest. Like, we have our own thing. They have their own thing. And we're all better together.

And I'm not trying to sound kumbayash. But one of my friends, owner of the Ithaca ale house, shout out, John, taught me years ago. there was tons of restaurants moving in the neighborhood. And I go, oh, man, I go, that's, that's tough for you, huh? He goes, no, it's great. He goes, more restaurants, the better. It's more foot traffic, more people, more options. 100%.

But even more options, how is that better? Because we all, they all work together. You got to eat every day. Yeah. And you can't eat the same thing every day. That's right. And the same goes with content creation podcasts, and you're absolutely right. And just, you know, one of the thing that I will say that I truly admire about Alex

in that podcast is she's very, very much pro-Saracuse, pro-local area, which we love. And like you said, it's so silly because it's not like we're TV shows that are on at the same time. Right. We don't have to pay attention to ratings. It's not the way this modern content world works. You know, you go to Netflix and they got a million different shows. They don't compete against each other. You also have, you know, we do an hour-long show.

She does an hour-long show. You got, you know, 20 more hours. in your day to listen to other content as well. There's room for all of us. And by the way, just supporting this concept and getting the idea, and the last thing I'll say about her and I'll let you finish, I'm sure. No, no. I keep interrupting.

Is that one of the things that she mentioned that really just made me smile from ear to ear is she mentioned how great of a tool her podcast is for networking and connecting with business people that she wants to connect with. On a business standpoint, aside from the content. And this is a concept that I've talked about ad nauseum. It's something that we've talked about extensively with all our current and even prospective clients, a growth mode content that are making that. And the fact that people are taking advantage of that and realizing that opportunity like she is,

that's a message that I want everybody to hear. So back to what we were saying, the fact that there are other people locally killing it, spreading the good word about what organic content can do for them is. It's great. Just awesome. And hats off. Hats off to Alex. And hats off, I'm going to say, have you, her set?

The way. She's got a different one in this new episode. Oh, she does. Also looks great. But yeah, it's, but I mean, just does a top-notch job. From the decor to the lighting to the quality, it's, uh, tip of the cap. We'll throw the link in. Like I said, she's got a whole, there's a considerable number of episodes.

She's been going for a couple of years. But this particular one that is, I think, the newest. we'll link to, I think, just is a great, she did a fantastic job of giving the idea who she is what she's doing, which is awesome for people. What's the name of the show? If they want to, I don't want to screw it up. I want to say it's captivate CNY.

We probably should have looked at up. Nothing close to that. Sorry, Alex. You'll find it. Left my notes in the other room. So I'm reasonably sure that's what it's called, though. So if I get it right, I feel like I should get bonus money. Sounds right.

But anyway. Well, I think that's it, pal. Yeah, let's Tuesday, Newsday. Shut up for a minute. Shut it up. Send this to the editors. Shut it. Send it to the editors.

Well, we will be back tomorrow. We do have guests coming in, I think. What do we got tomorrow? Let me take a look real, real quick. Sorry, I just hadn't hit that yet today. Stick around. We do have, in the next coming weeks, we've got some really great guests coming up,

and you've got Matt and I, Matt Mazer, Mike Brindisi, here on Good News, York. Have a great rest of your Tuesday. Thanks to Danny Rodden the board. Danny Chapote. Thanks again for Greg. For stopping by the show. Greg Orden.

Photographer, again, CNY, Headshots 315 is his handle on social media, GTOFoto.com. So, yeah, thank you, Greg. Peace out.