Good News York by Growth Mode Content - GNY EP.118 | Feat. Maryann Roefaro

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Exploring Self-Mastery and Spirituality with Maryanne Roefaro In this episode of Good News York, host Matt Masur and his co-host welcome Maryanne Roefaro, a former CEO in the healthcare industry and author of several books. They discuss her extensive resume, leadership journey, and the importance of self-mastery. Maryanne shares insights from her book 'Transitions of Hope,' blending science with spirituality. The conversation covers her experiences with integrating alternative therapies like Reiki in traditional medical settings and the importance of love and positivity. The episode also gives a sneak peek into Maryanne's upcoming podcast, 'Transitions of Hope,' focused on personal growth and spiritual insights. Also, Matt teases an upcoming review of the Taco Bell Cantina opening in Manlius. The show is sponsored by Ads on the Go. 00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 00:40 Honoring Veterans and Introducing the Guest 03:08 Guest's Background and Career Journey 05:12 Spirituality and Self-Mastery in Leadership 08:55 Writing and Inspiration Behind the Books 16:47 Blending Conventional Medicine with Spiritual Practices 27:03 Reiki's Impact on Cancer Patients 28:18 Founding Cancer Connects 29:06 Cancer Connects Programs and Services 30:37 The Role of Integrative Therapies 32:21 Introducing the Podcast 32:31 Podcast Topics and Guests 33:04 Understanding Unconditional Love 33:44 Exploring Past Lives and Spiritual Growth 35:45 Podcast Interaction and Audience Engagement 39:53 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

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than a death it's also 1111 which is something that we're going to talk about with our guest, which is a great way to introduce our incredible guest. And when I say introduce, Mike has been working on this introduction. Listen, I, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a some time now. As a producer, you're supposed to edit things. And I went to edit this intro and I went, but all of this is relevant. So this is officially the, the longest intro in the history of the show. And it, and it is, every word is, is, is.

meant to be there. We have the former CEO of hematology, Oncology Associates of CNY, and author of many books, including building the team from the inside out. She has over 30 years of health care experience and senior leadership positions. She is a board certified fellow in the American College of Medical Practice executives and maintains an active role in leadership development through various speaking engagements. She has a new podcast with us here at Groke Mode content that will be debuting soon called The Transcendix. transition of hope. She has earned her bachelor's degree

from the Albany College of Pharmacy and her master's degree from upstate medical university. She obtained a doctoral degree in divinity from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. And just when you thought it was over, she serves as a board member and advisor to several community organizations

and is the co-founder and president of the board of directors of Cancer Connects Incorporated. She is a Reiki Master Certified Heart-centered Hypnotherapist and a senior Chi-running instructor Mary Ann Raffaro Raffaro

Raffaro I mean Wow I'm tired I'm just gonna call her Mary Ann I'm just Or you could call me

Mare like the horse That's what my friends Call me Is it possible I left anything out Did I get everything was in there? Oh well you know

I've been a busy girl For a lot of years But no I think that pretty much covered it I didn't wear a plan today But I do have my Love T-shirt on

Because I really like that Well I had to I had to, you know, make it long sleeves. It's a little chilly here, but I have to say, this is all about L-O-V-E love. It's the only thing that there's too little of love. Yeah, well, we need more of that.

Yep. So, Marian, I want to get into the book, obviously, that we have here. It's one of the reasons we're, spoiler alert. She's got a new book that we're going to be talking about. But I'd like to give people a little background on you first. So aside from your resume that our man just read here, Just tell us a little bit about yourself and how your career kind of progressed to where we're at today. Well, I actually started out as a medical technologist in the clinical microbiology lab.

And I had total plans on getting a Ph.D. in Clinical Micro, but I had a poster one day. I was 29 years old. And I looked at all the people coming by my poster. And I thought, I'm really nothing like these people. This is not a good move for me. So on the way home, I told my mentor, you know what, I'm not going to get that PhD. I'm going to be an administrator. And then he said, well, this is your whole life. And what do you know about administration? And I said, well, honestly, how hard could it be? I'm a born leader.

It's all going to work out. And from there, I did remarkably exciting things in this community, set up the first urgent care that ever existed, met with an excellus to try to convince them. what an urgent care was. Thanks to A. John Morolla, MD, it was over at North Medical Center. It was his brain child. And then I was the administrator of his practice. And before that, I was a lab manager, a supervisor.

And then I was the VP at Krause Hospital for seven years, corporate VP of ambulatory services. And then I took my hematology oncology associates. I was there 23 years. Wow. So it was a long time. But everything I've ever done, all has led really, you know, it creates who you are. Sure.

And it sets up the future for you. And I would say hematology oncology associates was, you know, I stayed there a long time, which I never did before that. They used to make a joke, you know, don't write or contact info in pen because you'll only have to white it out. Use pencil. But, yeah, I stayed there because, first of all, cancer care in and of itself has had dramatic changes.

We had so many wonderful opportunities to create new programs. But I would say one of the key objectives that I had was my own self-mastery journey and also bringing that self-mastery journey to the employees. Because there's about 350 employees there today. And, you know, when you look at all these people, you think, what can I bring them? You know, I'm a very service-oriented leader. So every day I would be like, what can I do to make these lives better? and help people see the divinity and the preciousness and the beauty within themselves.

Because when someone brings their best self, everything else kind of takes care of itself, you know? So that's really what, and it's interesting, you'll find out from this book and some of my others. You know, I'm very intuitive. My mom was the world to me. She died when I was 14. And from 7 to 14, which I tell a lot in this book about me, we had the mom. most precious mother-daughter relationship, unlike probably most mothers and daughters, it was a very, had a lot of spiritual communication and a lot of communication about the absence of

death and merely taking on another form in which she promised me. She would be with me always, guide me, help me. And I really was able to hear her from the day that she died when I was 14. and through the years, you know, when you open yourself to what most people would think is kind of crazy, as long as you do it in a way that is completely consistent with goodness and light and all that is divine, you know, I look at that intuition as another sense that other people don't always have, and it's not only helped me through my career, which I would talk about things now that I wouldn't when I was a CEO, hence my former book, A Human's Purpose by Millie the Dog. I was still a CEO and I didn't want to spill all of my beans.

So I wrote that book through the voice of a dog, my dog, Millie. However, this is actually very interesting. My stepmom, my husband were sitting at the kitchen table waiting for me to finish my 10-mile run. I think this was October of 2003. And while I was running, I heard next book, Transitions of Hope, told me a little bit about it while I was running because, you know, running puts your, and it went to an altered state of consciousness where you can really connect. And, and it's funny because my career, you know, I mean, I had to be very good in finance and business and operations and health care is so complex. And, you know, I lived in this other world through my really entire career. and sought guidance from whomever. And yeah, so I walked in the door and I said, oh my gosh, my next book is going to be called Transitions of Hope.

And there was a tag that I have to write down because I will never remember it. And that tag was using the power of the mind to replace fear with love to navigate life's challenges because really love is what it's all about. And it's funny that I don't even, I didn't memorize that. I have to look at it.

And I look at it every time. I tell people, yeah, and then there's a tag, but I can't really remember it. And so, you know, my stepmother, my husband, they're used to, you know, me living on the edge of the envelope. So they weren't, like, completely shocked. But, yeah. And then I, you know, I was inspired with a lot of this book, but I really actually wrote this one myself. The Millie book is really a divine download. And even my leadership book, which is called Building the Team from the Inside Out, that's like a self-help book and a leadership book had a head-on collision.

because truthfully to build teams and to eliminate dysfunction can only come from when people clear the cluttered within them. But if people can work on their own self-mastery journey, everything just proceeds beautifully. You don't have toes to step on. When someone says something, you're not offended because you understand. This is one of my key principles, that every relationship we have depends on the relationship we have with ourselves. Everything. So everything someone says and does is a reflection from the inside out. And so when you acknowledge that, you don't take things personally.

And I talk a lot in this book about how, you know, we don't have the whole data set of our lives. And actually, Mike and I were chatting a little before this. And we talked about hypnotherapy. And I talk about that in this book, how eight to nine out of ten of my clients would go to another lifetime to solve issues from today. Now, I grew up this Catholic, Italian girl. However, I have to say my mother, my grandmother, extremely spiritual, very connected to the other side, very much, you know, talking to dead people and all of that kind of stuff. So I was always immersed in the other side. And so in any event, the first time someone went to a former lifetime, you know, I was a little like, because I was in my early 40s.

I'm 66 now in case you're interested just to let you know how much experience I've had in all. all of this. And I remember having my own self-mastery journey really expanding, because no matter, you know, regardless of how much we think we know, there's always something out of our sphere of knowledge. And, you know, having it's a gentle cruising. You start to see the village, almost like a painting. Join me, travel expert Darley Newman and Uneworld Boutique River Cruises Louvreak Bali to learn about river cruising in France. As we have been setting there for day, We have been able to create deep connection with the local communities. Local connections make exploring France easy.

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I mean, this is so simple. But when the sun was shining on me, my shadow was behind me. And I remember thinking on Route 5, where all the cars were flying by, I remember thinking, you know, this is so poignant. This is life. When we put light or love into any of our issues, then all that clutter and crap that we work on within the shadows of ourselves are behind. And I remember thinking, oh, I must.

include that in one of my books and then when I speak. And so, you know, those are the things that I talk about. I think I just went off on a tangent. I can't even remember originally what I was going to talk. No, that's all right. But yeah, so that book is just filled with a lot. And so it's interesting also, like hematology oncology associates were founded by the best oncologists. And I remember thinking to myself so now I'm very early in my 40s and I remember thinking what can I bring to this group you know there's already incredible doctors wonderful staff I mean the culture really needed rehab like a total 180 rehab and I knew that I had to work on that but I heard the word self-mastery and it's funny at that time I didn't even know what self-mastery really meant and I was like self-mastery okay

well I better do a little research figure out what the heck this is oh I know we were talking about previous lives. So the first time I was shocked when someone went to a previous life to solve their issues, the 50th time, you're just going with the flow. And I was, I felt very privileged that I could journey with these people in their healing journey. But also, it was almost like I would know what to say and what to do. And so for 10 years, I had my private practice of Reiki and Hypnotherapy on Tuesday, It was Mondays and Wednesday evenings until I got two-seasoned old to want to come home at 8 o'clock every night. So I thought, okay, I've been doing this for 10 years. I've taught a lot of people, Reiki.

And so I don't really do any of that anymore because I will have people say, oh, can't you do a hypnotherapy for me? Oh, can't you do a Reiki? But I think what my role is now, besides little individual things, perhaps for good friends or whatever, is I want the message of making the world a best. better place, one person at a time, from the inside out. I really want that message to be embedded in the hearts of people because we have a lot of anger in this world. We have people who can't get along, various opinions where there's a lack of tolerance, there's a lack of

accountability that I've seen, even in the workforce over the last five to seven years, the candidates are different. They have different goals. They, you know, not that it's anything bad. It's just different. Sure. And, you know, we have disruptors in this world that are put here to disrupt. And some people love the disruptors and some people hate them. But nonetheless, there's this great purpose that a lot of times we don't see because we're thinking very humanly. So another objective of writing this book was to be able to, you know, weather those storms, have hope through everything. Hope is something you can always have because happiness, hope, their decisions that you make. And you can't ever hold anybody else responsible for being happy

or any of that. It's all an inside job. And so really, this book goes into a lot of that. And then there's also some very helpful exercises that I've included in here, like just practical exercises to help people forgive, to help people assess their level of self-mastery, to be able to be more resilient, to be able to be more hopeful. And, you know, there's a slope of hope that is constantly moving. And one of the examples I use in the book is my former husband, very dear to me. I went through his cancer journey with him. And I talk about how the level, the high level of hope that we had at the beginning

and at the end were equivalent, but what we were hopeful for was completely different. You start out hopeful that someone will be cured. And what we ended was we hoped that he had a beautiful and peaceful transition. And he landed on the other side, you know, filled with love. And I talk a little bit about that journey because the slope of hope goes like this all day long. And we don't really focus on that as people.

We don't say like, oh, it's my level of hope today. but hope in resilience are so intertwined that we really need that to keep moving forward to get ourselves through all the muck because there's a ton of it. And I don't care how bright you are, how rich you are, successful, what your titles are, nobody gets away unscathed, nobody. And what, you know, the life that people see in social media are so snippets. Young people don't realize everybody's got so much clutter that they're working on. And, you know, the more clutter you clear, the more you're a conduit to be able to traverse life in a more global sense not being affected by the moment to moment.

That's incredible. Wow. Wow. So, yeah, I talked a lot. I may have a drink now. No one's ever going to ask us why we thought you'd be good on a podcast. Right. Mary Ann, one of the things I want to ask you is, you know, throughout your career, you spent all this time at hematology and oncology surrounded by doctors and scientists and very, very traditional professionals.

The type of folks that I maybe incorrectly perceive as being not into some of the spiritual things and everything that you're talking about. Can you tell us how all of this was received in that group of professionals? professionals? Well, I was in the perfect place with the perfect group of people to accept my ideas. And I think it's partly because every one of those people are a beacon of hope to cancer patients and families. And some people make it and some people don't. And when you deal with the fragility of life and when you see people, you know, fighting with everything they have, or you see that it's time for them to accept that there's just no more. There's something that happens to you inside.

And people would say to me, oh, my God, how are you, how do you handle being around all these cancer patients and death? And I have always said, you learn so much more about life from those. those people than you ever could about death. You see resilience in its truest form. And when I first started, I didn't talk about spiritual things off the bat. So we used to have staff meetings.

And when I first started, they were every month. And this is kind of funny, because those people who know me will be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to love those. Or oh, yeah, I had a listen to those. And I used to call them eight and a half by 11s. And the reason is, is because when I first started, 24 years ago, I used to hold up a piece of paper with a word on it. In the beginning, they were business things. You know, good to grade had just come out. So we talked about some of those things. You know,

the enemy of great is good. And, you know, just a lot of business terminology talked about how to be successful, how to be, you know, not so task oriented, be more process oriented. And then, you know, slowly as I was accepted as a good leader and we were successful in really building a team culture, I interjected things. And I want to say one of my, the first was love on a piece of paper that wasn't business oriented. And then those eight and a half by 11s, even though it went to nice PowerPoint, you know, sometimes it'd be a phrase. It normally would be a word, though. And then I would go off on this whole little thing. And I was very involved in things that were going on in the practice. So I would know pockets of struggle.

and I would always do a little meditation with myself, and I'd be like, what's the eight and a half by 11 for this month? And it was amazing. I'd have people be like, can you please send that to me? Oh, my God, were you at my house this weekend? Oh, my gosh, you have helped me like so much. So the tag, it was eight and a half by 11. It would say the month,

and it would be making the world a better place, one person at a time, from the inside out. And so slowly we interjected a lot of self-mastery. and that was really the premise of how I functioned as a leader. And so my team, my key leaders, you know, I guess maybe in the beginning they had to buy into it because I was the CEO, but I really believe they embraced it. And one of the things that I, why I wrote the first book, is I remember somebody came to my office, one of my key leaders, and said, you know, another key leader said something that would normally, really upset me, but I did something that we've learned together. I wondered what was going on inside of them that they should say that. Because I used to say, is that person loving? Are they

going to sabotage us? They wouldn't even be here if they had those characteristics. So do you trust them? So there has to be another reason, something that you don't know. Because let's face it, you can react differently today and tomorrow on something that happens depending on your fuse of like what happened 100% right so you got to cut people slack and if you trust them and believe that their intentions are always good then that's what you got to do when somebody says some crappy stuff you got to think to yourself what's going on here you know their intention would never be to hurt me would never be to embarrass me would never be so there's got to be something else And I really started writing my book shortly after that person came in my office because I was like so happy.

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years of health care. But sometimes I got thank you cards. Everybody's life got, because I used to tell people, if you're holding up a wall of ocean water, one of these days, it's just going to come down and flatten you out. So if you're the square peg in the round hole, get somewhere that, you know, the sweater fits where you, you know, where you can be successful. So believe it or not, we journeyed through this. And I mean, some of the eight and a half by 11s were awesome, like gratitude. Like I did a whole thing on water crystals and how you can change the morphology. of water crystals, whose book was that? Was it Maseromoto maybe who wrote the water crystals? It's very good. You could just Google water crystals. And so I did that whole presentation, then handed out t-shirts that said

gratitude on it, had everybody wearing them the next day. And on the back, between gratitude was every employee's name. And, you know, we did fun things like that. And, you know, I might do one of the eight and a half by elevens on a book like the four agreements. You know, they were always things that precipitated thought. And so, you know, I really think, and the doctors just knew that the culture was shifting to be very efficient. We would have patients come and say, what do you, do you put happy pills in these people's water? Like, why is this like this? You're like Patch Adams.

You know? And the doctors, I don't know, they're just an extremely special group of people. And so they embrace that. And then when we moved out of our Med Center West building, there was a flood. And I said, don't do anything with the flood because it was a building that had a vault. And for market preservation, we didn't want to lose that site, but we didn't use it. So I said to the docs, you know, I'll do it on a shoestring budget, but let me make a wellness center there. You know, now this is going back 20-something years when Reiki and all of that, you know, acupuncture was probably more accepted, massage.

was, you know, probably more accepted, but Reiki and energy work and all of that. And I can remember there were doctors like, well, don't do any of that stuff in infusion, you know. And through the years, it's just everything changed. People began to be more open. Patients wanted this. They realized. I mean, I talk about a few of my Reiki clients because all I ever really treated were cancer patients. Yeah.

Which was a real privilege for me. You know, you're the CEO in the daytime, and now you're part of the team, right? you're part of the healing team, even though, because the most important thing, though, that I don't want anybody to ever forget is you don't throw out conventional wisdom. You blend it. You blend what we've learned and what we can do conventionally with ancient wisdom. Because we are beings of electrical energy. You know, we, I mean, I talk about science, the science of it in here.

I talk about Amphir's law when there's any kind of electricity going through cells. There's, you know, an electromagnetic field. And we do tons of things with that, electromagnet. magnetic field. Some things we don't even think about. But, you know, I mean, I'm sure you've sat down and somebody's walked in the room and you know they're there. You know, you've said, oh, my God, you could cut the tension with a knife.

Oh, my gosh, what is the mood? Well, where does all that come from? It's all the energies and the patterns, right? Yeah. So anyways, that's how those physicians. And then when we did the new building in Camillas, the year last year, because I just retired this February, we moved our wellness center. So now, you know, it's a very busy place.

And it has Tai Chi and yoga and, you know, Reiki and energy work. And, you know, these doctors give it out of the goodness of their heart. So all the practitioners will bill for their own services. None of them are employees. And we don't charge them anything. But they have to charge less, like 20% less than what the traffic bears out in the community. Wow. Because I felt like you can spend a ton of money on billboards.

You can spend a ton of money on whatever. But when those people go to that wellness center and they have profound experiences and go tell all their friends and they know that those practitioners are charging less because those doctors have supported that. I mean, that's a huge marketing tool. You know, it's amazing to me that you're, I live in the world of like, I believe in science and medicine very much. But I'm also spiritual. And it's rare that we find somebody with your resume who is able to play both sides and incorporate it together. It's really, really refreshing that you don't really see science and spirituality together. It's pretty cool.

No, it's great. That's usually, I mean, that's the red flag you see with some folks in why you think they're selling snake oil is, you know. None of these doctors and experts in medicine that we've had. They're a joke, you know. It's this one magic plant. Well, I had a physician. You're not doing anything of that sort. So I talk about a beautiful human being that I did rakey on for, geez, I don't know, years every week.

And she had lung cancer with metastatic tumors to her head. And so she had 11 of them, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And they had done as much radiation, whole brain as they could, whatever. And her radiation oncologist, we had beautiful relationships with these docs. He reaches out and he says, Mayor. I mean, I kind of met a loss. You know, that thing you do, that Reiki thing, do you think that could help?

I said, well, it certainly wouldn't hurt. I mean, is it a coincidence that as soon as we started Reiki, she never had another brain met in her head? And she lived like 10, 11, 12 more years. I mean, I saw her in the grocery store, like probably a couple of years after we stopped doing Reiki and she had braces on. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, you got braces. She goes, yeah, had I known I was going to live this long,

I would have got them a long time ago. I had no idea. And, but there was profound healing because she, She also did a lot of work from the inside out. But I've had other clients like Marian, you know, I don't see the radiation beam. I don't know how it works, but I know it's killing this tumor. And I don't know what you're doing. But for a week after, I have no diarrhea and I have no nausea for five days after this Reiki treatment.

So, you know, and then that's one of the reasons why I set up Cancer Connects, because one of the things that Cancer Connects does is it has this voucher program. because I also knew while these people were going through this cancer journey, it could be very expensive. And even though back then a Reiki treatment was $40, people didn't have an extra $40 hanging around. So I was like, we need a foundation that will raise money to be able to pay for these integrative therapies. And never in my wildest dreams when I filled out that 501-63 paperwork for Cancer Connects, did I ever imagine that today, and it's for the entire community, not just hematology, associates, primarily because it's not legal to have a foundation for a for-profit company.

So it's for everyone. It's in five counties. Cancer Connects orchestrates the vouchers for integrative therapies, Reiki, acupuncture, all of that. It has a mentoring program where we hook people up one to one, try to even find the people that would really connect with other people. And then there's also a program that will distribute money to help people pay their co-pays, pay supplemental insurance, pay their car payment, pay their daycare. And there's an angel fund for all non-breast cancer. And then there's a breast cancer fund that is funded in total by my dear friend, Lori Mezzolingu's foundation that she started.

and you know it's it's just you know it's the St. Agatha Foundation. Lori, I'll never forget her telling me the big secret that she was going to start it, named after the patron saint of breast health. And St. Agatha's funds so much in this community. And Cancer Connects is like the conduit to be able to distribute these funds. And Lori and I, you know, she was actually the person. person that I did my 100 hours before I became a Reiki master. And I learned a lot from her cancer journey. So, you know, these are very profound things. I've been so blessed. I've been so

fortunate to be able to do all this. But thank God, I also have a really great science brain, and I am very grounded in science and medicine so that I understand, you know, because physicians don't have that training, you know, they're, they want to see data. They want to make sure. They don't want to. So the most important thing is, is that they don't say, I think you should go for Reiki treatment, but if someone says, Doc, what do you think of this? They don't say, don't do it. They'll say, sure, it could be very helpful. So they're more just, they're just neutral. Yeah. But they support it. And, you know, big huge cancer center is 20-something years. years ago, we're doing, you know, Reiki and all of that kind of stuff. And when Upstate built their

cancer center, you know, they incorporated it. And I had a laugh because our docs were like, we've had this program for 17 years. And I wanted to say, yeah, remember how open you were about it back then? But, you know, they are. They're very open. And it's a very, and I think that's what makes HOA special. And I made sure that my successor and I worked together a couple of years, she's cut of the same cloth. And I don't anticipate that culture and that self-mastery. We even had a consultant who will be on one of my podcasts, Mary Schechter. She runs the intuitive organization. She's absolutely awesome, has done so much work through the years with hematology oncology associates,

helping people in their self-mastery journey. So we did a lot of work and we spent some money for groups, teams that were having issues to really appreciate what was inside of each other. That's incredible. That's incredible. Marian, we can talk to you for years and years and years. Yeah, but we're probably done. Which is why we're making a podcast.

We are. Let's just talk about that for a quick minute. Yes. And then we're actually going to get to making it. Okay. A little behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah. So, yes, I'm very excited about.

What are we talking about on the podcast? Well, I think down the road I will have people as guests on this podcast. But for a while, I really want to focus on some of the concepts in this book. It won't follow it along, but the most important things, like every relationship we have depends on the one with herself. Well, how do we know? Like, what does that mean exactly? And how do we clear the clutter? And, you know, how do you even assess your level of, you know, how do you do that?

You know, unconditional love is an act of being, not an act of doing. You know, for how many years in my life, I was like, you know, I'm sorry, I can't unconditionally love that person. I can't unconditionally. Oh, no, that's not going to happen. and, well, I'm failing severely on this unconditional love thing. Until I was actually writing Millie book and I was in a chapter and I just got a divine download. You know, unconditional love is not an act of doing. It's an act of being.

It's understanding that we were created from unconditional love and we are unconditional love. So you don't have to ask yourself, what do I got to do to love these people? You say to yourself, what would love do? How would love? So, okay, you think very differently from me, but you have that prerogative. And I have, if I live in a world where I'm not going to judge, what is my place? You know, and then I want to talk about things like why we have the limited data set. How do I, what are some of the experiences I've had that have proven to me that there are other lifetimes?

And what do we bring into these lifetimes and what do we need to do to make sure that we don't have these recurrent themes over and over and over? you know those are all the kinds of things I want to talk about and when we have enough podcasts that I feel that that people will have a foundation then I do want to have some guests on there but I'm hoping that these guests are extraordinarily different living on the fringe you know I heard the other day that there was an individual who's a death dula who's a medium who helped a young man in a coma communicate with his family I want people like that on my podcast. I want like a medium. I have, you know, I want, I, because people say, well, that's supernatural. Well, I've had a ton of things happen to me. And it's not supernatural. It's

natural. It's just out of our realm of thought. And, you know, we, I'm going to spend some time in these podcasts talking about ego and spirit, the world of structure that we live in. And when you allow structure to dominate your whole life, what you get yourself into as opposed to when you really allow spirit and put your ego aside. You know, it doesn't mean that you, you know, I have to give away all your stuff and you've got to be poor and you got to, no, you know, we are modern day mystics, okay? We are people who you have to live in this world. You have to, you know, national grids, nobody, not going to give anybody a discount for, you know, and so we have to be able to. And, you know, you don't, you know, people need, they have to have their needs met, but they got to have some of the

wants met too. Otherwise, you know, what's what are you doing what are you doing so yeah so i hope to really have a good time with people with this podcast talk about all those days this is going to be fun yeah i'm going to actually ask people if they want to write in but they're going to have to do something very old-fashioned they're going to have to write you put a stamp on an envelope and send it to my p.o box marianne real real quick she's going to read real letters you're talking about previous lights what do you think matt and i were in our previous life i would have no idea i think i was a deer. Because watch, look at, my wife tells me I look like a deer. I'm eating. I'm eating. Yeah.

There you go. You definitely got the whole headlight thing. Yeah. Could be. What do you think you were in your previous life, dude? This is fun. I want to figure this out. Well, now I can't say hunter. Oh, that would be awkward. But you know what? What you could do is tonight, whatever, you go and you evaluate some of the things that haunt you. Like, you know, do you have something that you just can't seem to understand? Yes. And sometimes those things come from holdover. But when we come to this world, we have amnesia because it certainly wouldn't be anything without free will, right?

You have to make those decisions. Is it time to clear the clutter or is it not? Some people love living in the density of their fear and their anger and it's where they're happy. Okay, no problem. You'll just probably come back with that same bullshit until you figure out that, you know, love is the answer. So might as well figure it out now. you know, there's also people think you die and, you know, you just float into this beautiful place and all your problems are gone. And, you know, I say it in the book. I use jerk, but, you know, I have a very foul mouth, but I'm going to try to control it. But if you're a jerk, you know, you die with jerk like qualities, you know, you have to heal the jerk because, you know, you take when you die, no matter what you had here, everybody takes the same stuff with them. Their soul transfers, combines spirit, now they know everything. They know all their other lifetimes.

They know all the things they put in their path to try to learn and grow. And then you say, well, shit, I didn't do that. Oh, I missed that, Mark. Yeah. And you can grow on that side. You can grow on this side. But these two worlds are so intertwined. And they're so much closer than people think.

You know, that veil. And as really the world turns and we evolve through time and celestial patterns, it's getting thinner and thinner. And more and more people, and I even have an exercise in here, and how do you know when Spirit's talking to you and it's not your imagination? That's a great question. Somebody taught me that when I was 30-something years old. It's in the book and I'm like, I've got to put this in here because that was a game. You know, I've had a few real game changers in my life.

It's worth the book by itself. Yeah, yeah. That was a game changer. And honestly, understanding that we are, we are unconditional love. It's a state of being, not a state of doing. That was a life changer for me. Because then I thought, oh, yeah, I just have to really accept that that opinion is very different and that they're doing the best they can with what they have.

Because, you know, we all have, you know, like we're doing the best we can for the most part. And, you know, we're living within that set of the gifts that we have. And so when you understand that about someone, you respect them for, okay, I'll respect you for what you believe. It's totally different than me. I don't really get it, and I could never really think like that. But, you know, may you have a successful co-created journey and maybe figure things out, and I'll figure my own crap out, and I'll try to effectuate the world that I can that's here, and make it a better place.

One person at a time from the inside out. Man, Mary Raffaro is, you are one of the most interesting people I've ever met, and I mean that in a very good way. Well, thank you so much. I can see the small coming out of his answer. Well, I have a hundred questions. His mind just belonged. Yeah.

I mean, was I a deer in the past life? What happens when we die? And it makes sense that you're a jerk. If you're a jerk in your real life and then you're past, remember the guy in ghost? Get off my train. He was a jerk when he died and he was a jerk in his afterlife. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, Hollywood does blend with real life, right?

Sometimes. Well. I still am not getting good at pottery, but. I just, yeah, I just want you to know that it's been a privilege to be on your podcast. You guys are awesome. I'm so grateful, and thank you so much for having me. We really appreciate this, Marianne, and we're very excited because, like we said, obviously everything that we've talked is something that needs to be delved very deep into,

which is the whole reason that people do podcasts. So this is one that we're very excited to make and we're excited to have a year. Our client portfolio just got way more interesting. It did. It's not a knock on anybody else. No. This is a whole new world, literally. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm very excited. In all honesty, while we might not get nearly a spiritual or anything like that, the whole reason we exist, Good News York, is very much along the same lines. Sure. I am a huge, huge proponent of positivity and empathy for people in many of the same way. Attitudes everything, right? Absolutely.

It really is. I love hearing an expert sort of quantify these things that I've already subscribed to. Well, I'm on my own journey. I wouldn't really call me an expert, but let's just say I've been working at it a long, long time. I mean, you're writing books. So, you're doing something right. Yeah. Yeah. Marianne Rafferro, um, health professional, Reiki master, author and now, a host of her own podcast. Yeah. That's going to be powered by growth mode content. Transitions of hope. You can catch it right here. Thank you so much for joining the show. Yeah. Thank you. And thanks everybody for tuning in, you know. I mean, love. It's all you need.

Love is all you need Exactly It's going to be our new standard I think so Good news you're sponsored by ads on the go Quick plug For tomorrow show Oh

I don't know Should I give this away Buddy this is Should we make it a surprise You're always get worried when there's something exciting that they're going to cancel on us The last second And then I'm going to put a schmuck

Like I've been canceled on CNN A couple times You're like yeah we're going to go We're going to go live in a half hour And they're like, oh, yeah, we actually want to talk about something much more boring. Sorry. You're out of luck. You do your thing.

So you stop telling people that I was going to be on. I'll tell you, there's a new restaurant coming to town that's got a lot of buzz. And it's a chain restaurant. It's the most buzz I've seen for a chain restaurant that isn't Chick-fil-A. A new Taco Bell canteen is opening up in Manlius. And this is a merger of a Taco Bell in the bar. Yeah, this is wild to me. Uh, spoiler alert.

We're getting the preview of it before it opens. You will be able to see all this fun stuff on Good News York. Tomorrow, Thursday. Thursday. I don't know what day it is. It's coming up. We can also edit this out. What do we got?

Oh, tomorrow we've got a bunch of... Alec, Alec, that's right. The, uh, from social media, uh, he's a real estate guy, but he's, he does these really cool videos. The local guys been killing it on social media. We got a lot of exciting things. I've got tacos on social media. the brain but um i've got to talk to the show all week and uh and also check out our boy ads on the go did you realize yesterday he had the he had the truck with the graphics and everything outside

i didn't even realize oh till he was leaving i'm like oh shoot he had it all we we should have got pictures yeah but that's all right he'll be around taco bell can'tina here we come that's right that's right that's good news york sponsored by ads on the go get ads on the go dot com mary and rafferro thank you for being here and we'll see See you on your podcast. Oh, hoo! Peace out. It's a gentle cruising.

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