Good News York by Growth Mode Content - GNY EP.177 | feat. Gary Simons from Esta Safety Park Dragstrip

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

Esta Safety Park Dragstrip: Family Drag Racing, Track Prep, and Upcoming Events in Cicero Host Noah Chrysler interviews Gary Simons, longtime announcer and current manager of Esta Safety Park Dragstrip in Cicero, NY, a family-owned dragstrip operating since 1960 that runs quarter-mile and eighth-mile racing with a quarter-mile runoff. Simons explains what visitors can see—from street cars and motorcycles to 200+ mph dragsters—and describes weekly track resurfacing by scraping old rubber and dragging/brooming the surface for traction and safety. He outlines bracket racing basics, including dial-ins, ET strategy, reaction timing, and “racing the stripe,” emphasizing driver skill alongside car performance and luck. Simons discusses rising costs, fewer tracks, and efforts to move street racers to a safer venue, including extended Test and Tune hours and No Prep events featuring Daddy Dave (June 14). He lists tentative upcoming Test and Tune and Sunday bracket races, Monday car shows starting June 1, entry pricing, and where to find schedules. 00:00 Cold Open Banter 00:14 Welcome And Introductions 01:09 What The Dragstrip Is 02:19 Cars And Classes Explained 03:53 Track Prep And Rubber 06:38 Weekly Maintenance Routine 08:02 Driver Versus Car 08:59 Bracket Racing Strategy 12:55 Why Visit The Track 14:36 How Racing Has Changed 17:15 Racing Changes Driving 18:05 Track Safety Mindset 19:23 Street Racing Reality 20:06 Run What You Brung 21:52 No Prep With Daddy Dave 23:02 Favorite Racing Movies 24:29 Upcoming Track Events 27:52 Visit And Pricing 28:18 Community And Sponsors 29:22 Studio Promo And Wrap

As we move forward, as you come out and you're like, hey, this is pretty cool. I bring you up in the tower. You'll see the microphone like I do and get like, can I? Can I? Absolutely. You're hired, you know, so I'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that sounds great. Good morning, everybody.

Welcome to the Safety Park Drags trip. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Good News York. My name is Noah Chrysler. Today I am sitting with Gary Simons. Gary, welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Absolutely.

Go ahead and introduce yourself. Well, my name's Gary Simons. here from the SSA Safety Park Drag Strip. We got a lot of great things going on. I've been there as the manager this year, but I've been there for close to 25 years myself. So I started out leaning on the fence, wondering how can I help this racetrack

to helping the racetrack, becoming the announcer for 13 years, wanting to be more and more part of it every year. And what happened is, you know, fast forward to today and this morning and putting in post and making all the necessary changes to grow this industry within the Central New York area. Cool. For those of us who do not know what your racetrack is, can you explain it to somebody who's never seen it and doesn't know what it is?

What we are is a drag strip. We're a quarter mile drag strip. We also run eighth mile. Anybody knows that? It's half the track. But we're a quarter mile drag strip with a quarter mile runoff, which basically means we have a quarter mile more pavement to use. slow the cars down to turn around and come back. We are a family, fun, oriented-type community-based drag strip.

We're local, right in Cicero, 80-91, Eastwood Road right off of Route 31, just before Bridgeport. We were family-owned operations since 1960. Wow. And along with a lot of people who came on board to hop out, it seems to have generated into a track continuously where it's, family. If there's one person helping operate, there's usually a couple family members behind them doing what they can either. Get the gates open, get the place mode, all the things that go with running a small business yet. We try to make it feel big. So it's kind of cool. Very cool. So what type of cars would somebody see racing down your racetrack? Well, if anybody's familiar with the

NHRA, the NHRA, the National Hot Rod Association, if they see that on TV, Fox News or Fox Network, It could be anywhere what we call a rail car, which is a 24-foot-long dragster, to your common street car, to a class we call pro, which is your slightly modified. It's very modified car, which in turn you can run different times. We base a lot of our drag race and off mile per hour in ETs estimated time. So you can see anything from a street car running, we'll say, 85 miles per hour at 15. seconds in the quarter mile to a dragster which could run 200 miles per hour at 4.2 seconds in the quarter mile or quicker. Depending on who it is, we have a gentleman Vince Mussolino. He's an HRA national champion, 2003. I like to give him a plug because he's a big part of our drag strip,

along with many other people, the Timmy Roberts and the Todd Lipke, who runs street money, who has slightly altered streetcar. But we have six to eight different classes that we run and you could see like I said anything from a dragster to a modified car to a street car to a motorcycle to a sled so if if it's something that piques your interest we have a little bit of everything out there cool I grew up in Pompey do you do tractor races at all do you ever race the tractors though okay the only thing you see out there is a tractor is me or the young man chase Hubbard who will be dragging the track and what that means is on the back of the tractor, our old faithful, old blue, has three, four slicks on the back that we

cut to modify to be able to, once we scrape the rubber out, and I know you're probably looking at me like, oh, you're going to scrape the rubber, and then I'm going to put more rubber back down. So fresh rubber is important for when we use traction compound, because the key to drag racing is first and foremost safety, but to have traction to be able to from start to stop. you have to be able to be in a safe oriented way. But the only tractor you'll see out there is either the one mole on the lawn or dragging the track. Gotcha. That's very fascinating, though.

I didn't know that you put rubber down on the track. So what does that process look like? I mean, so you're putting rubber down every race? Well, some people would say I'm just driving a tractor around and round and around eighth mile at a time. And then I do a quarter mile at a time. Then I do from the eighth mile to the quarter mile. It's kind of a scientific process that people will be like, What's he doing out there?

Well, basically what you have to do is the old rubber, which goes on top of the concrete and the pavement. So 333 feet of concrete. And then from there, there's another 330 feet of paving. So your bottom line is you scrape old rubber up because when a car takes off from the starting line rapidly, you know, a 60 foot from the starting line to 60 foot, you're looking at 1.5 seconds, 2.2.2.

seconds. And they need to have as much rubber to rubber, the rear tires to the surface. So you don't want old rubber on there because that'll just pull up cars, slip the tires. And we do not ever want to create an unsafe situation. So the goal is to pull up all the old rubber. We have a piece of equipment that scrapes the rubber up. And then what we do going forward is I hop on the tractor, hopefully some nice, fresh new tires that we cut. And literally, I will start from the outside part of the one lane, drag the track, drag back, go into the middle, and then to the inside. So it's kind of a, like I said, it could take up six to eight hours to resurface. We call it resurfacing the track or putting rubber down, constantly walking it, and then

you broom it. You have a nice big tractor that we broom it. So, yes, there is two tractors, but we would broom it, clean it, make sure there's no debris on the track, little pieces of rubber, et cetera, and then start dragging again. Cool. Yeah, some people would say he drags and drags, and then I go, I drag some more. So because putting new rubber is the key to a efficient track. Cool.

How often do you do that process? Well, we have to do it every week. Every week, got it. In order to space it out sometimes because we're human, we all have jobs, families. So a lot of us, you'll have somebody come out and scrape it, whether it be Monday or Wednesday or Friday, could be Saturday morning. Being that we race every Sunday, and sometimes on Saturday, we have a Saturday coming up only because of rainouts so far. I don't know if anybody's noticed, but we've gotten a lot of rain. I've noticed, yeah, it's not my favorite. So we don't do jet skis out there, but we could.

But with that being said, it's unfortunate when we have to cancel, but it is fortunate because it gives us an opportunity to do these types of things and put a little more extra work into it. So I would say, like, I would probably myself go out, spend a couple hours on a Friday, check out the track, maybe put some few laps on it, maybe a couple hours, just to kind of give a baseline. And then Saturday, definitely get out there and spend about probably easily six hours, just dragging the track, brooming it, and dragging it some more.

So it gets done once a week. I can tell you for a fact, that's the focus, because if you don't, it'll, the Sunday won't, It wouldn't be a day that wouldn't be logical. Let's just put it that way. It has to be done correctly, and if you don't do it correctly, you're going to have a long day at the track. Got it.

Okay. I have a question for you that might be a not. It seems to be a theme here. My father would be embarrassed. My father's a mechanic, and he knows everything about cars and everything about everything, which is great. And I never, you know, picked it up. I never was interested in that.

I was always interested in digital media and computers and stuff. Everybody has a thing. Exactly. That was mine. They call it. Yeah. So anyway, if, okay, from my understanding, if I'm to win a drag race, right, how much of the performance, like how much of my, you know, performance in the race is the driver and how much is the car?

I would assume it's mostly the car, yeah? Well, there's this thing called Lady Luck too. Okay, got it. Okay. So driver, car and luck. Well, like we've got guys, like I mentioned some people, they've been out there for a long time. it takes a lot to depending on horsepower how fast you want to go that's important but a lot of it's based off of ET your estimated time so what happens is our we call it bracket racing so we have bracket racing at its finest out there so you'll have a car let's just say AJ Myers one of our I'll use names because they like their names out there but it's nice they're great people who support our track and I want to make sure that we remind them how much we appreciate them. So AJ Meyer, he has a Chevy Nova, which is a very nice car, does wheelies the

whole nine yards. So he runs, we'll just say, AJ's running a 622, okay? So now Chris Corleone, who's another one of our drivers, 66 Cheval, I believe, or 65, he's going to hate me after today. But he's going up against him. They're side by side. Chris Corleone's run on a 595. So basically, what happens now, they both have very fast cars, very beautiful cars. I can say that for a fact, and they're very dedicated to our track. AJ will get a head start. So he'll get that differential. The 622 gets a head start. Now this 595, they have to catch him. It's about horsepower catching him, but it's about knowledge and understanding what they call racing the stripe. So you get down to the top end of the track.

You do not want to break out, breakout meaning you went too fast within yourself. So a lot of times Some would say, and I remind my daughter of this, Brooke, all the time, is you're generally racing yourself. You have a dial it on your car. Yes, you're racing the guy next to you. It's a little bit of a head game. It takes some talent. It takes some talent to understand what your car is going to do, how fast it's going to go, maybe how slow it's reacting. It could be so many variables that people think, oh, they just go straight.

But there's more to it. There's a little process. My car ran, you get two test and tunes, what we call our two time trials in the morning. to figure out what your car is going to do. Now you come up to the line, yeah, I'm going to run this number. It doesn't always work that way. You know, the car's off a little bit or mechanically something may have happened or the person next to you is a little better at playing the game at the stripe.

So if you look at it from a mechanical standpoint, what you need to focus on is making sure your car is 100%, whether it's leaking oil and not leaking oil, et cetera, et cetera. But it takes some skill. It takes some skill, what your car is going to do, how you're going to react, you know, not just holding the wheel straight, but knowing what to do when you get to the other end of the track. If your RPMs, there's a lot going on. Interesting.

And like I said with the ETs, there could be, I've seen a broad range where a guy's running a 750, we'll say, and another guy's running a nine. I mean, that's a two-second head start. So picture yourself waiting for the tree to come down because there's the, the tree, the Christmas tree it's called. There's many variations of it. And it starts with the pre-stage and stage, and then there's the three ambers and then green.

What happens is now this car takes off, and then you're sitting there waiting, waiting for your tree to come down, and then you're chasing the car, but at the same time, you still have to get there, and it's a lot of strategy to it. Got it, okay. You could get lost in it, but when you're out there watching it,

and I'll be out there announcing or I'm talking people through it to understand it, it makes sense. It's hard to explain it until you've seen it. Sure. So come on out. Sounds good. No, that sounds fascinating. You have a free pass with me all the time.

Oh, I appreciate that. I'm probably going to be out there. So it could be mechanical. It could be strategy and luck. And luck. I'll say there's a little bit of luck in there. There's some champions that have gotten it on luck. Sure.

Interesting. That's very, very interesting. So basically, you can race. two cars that have different horsepower, but they just delay the one with higher horsepower. Got it. I didn't know that. Yeah. I've never actually seen a drag race, which is terrible. I should go watch one. I open your eyes to things. And I think that's the concept of being here is to open everybody's eyes to. There's an actually really cool, fun family place. We have concession stands. You know, we have a nice open field. You can park in, stand along the fence, just like the old times,

or get up in the grandstands. You can walk around, look at the cars in the pits. So, that's the concept that to remind, we've been here since 1960. I could tell you at least twice to three times a day, I hear, what? There's a drag strip in my neighborhood. Now, you don't have to love drag racing, but boy, it's pretty cool. Once you bring your son, your daughter, your wife, or your family member there to bring the family, you know, it's really, it started that way and we'd like to keep it that way. As we move forward, as you come out and you're like, hey, this is pretty cool.

I bring you up in the tower. You'll see the microphone like I do and get like. Yeah, can I? Absolutely. You're hired, you know, so I'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that sounds great. You know, good morning, everybody.

Welcome to the SESA Safety Park Drag Strip, you know, and it all started there. For me, it started there a long time ago. Cool. I always wanted to be, it was funny, I was telling my brother-in-law all the time that he helps me at the track a lot, along with a lot of people. He said you never talked about wanting to race. You always talked about how you could work here. He goes, here you are.

And I was like, yeah, be careful what you wish for. You know, so it's, there's a vision for everybody, and I take great pride in it. I really do. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the fact that people were willing to open the door and say, hey, come talk about what we have in our backyard, you know, that's the fun part. Right in Cicero. Cool. It's not far.

How have you seen the business change over the years? Boy, that's a good question. What I've seen it change is the factory cars. are faster than they used to be. The drive to get out there is more, but they love that street race. And so we're trying to get them out onto the track, off the street on the track.

Obviously, like anything else, there's variables in the industry, whether it's safer or not safer. We'll talk about fences and we'll talk about keeping it correct for, like, insurances and stuff of that nature. You're trying to be proactive and friendly and stay ahead of the things that need to be taken care of so that people don't come there and just see an old run-down track. You really want to paint it. You want to – it's just a cost-effective.

We're talking about fuel. Fuel for your car, like I filled my tank and my truck today. That's 100 bucks. Race fuel, you think 456 a gallon is expensive. Try 10-56 a gallon. a barrel of alcohol because a lot of these guys run alcohol, man, it's up three, 400 bucks, you know, and that's putting it mildly. I don't have all the exact costs on me.

I can just tell you that a five-gallon, five-gallon drum of, say, M-12, it's five gallons. It's $150. So I would say, as a whole, there's less tracks to go to, which means you've got to drive farther. the fuel is something that is a big factor in this. Mechanical parts take longer to get. Those are more expensive. Just the whole, I think cost. I think if you were to look at it as a whole, in a nutshell,

cost, and it's got to, if you're doing this, it's more of a hobby. I mean, there's big races out there that pay a lot of money. I'm involved with one myself, which is at a different racetrack, but that's something I do because that's what I've always done. But I think it's about cost in trying to keep it affordable. So you're not selling hot dogs at $10 apiece. So when you bring your family, you want to make sure you're making it affordable, enjoyable, and something to see.

So I would say in a nutshell, I mean, we're looking at fuel costs and different mechanical. Things take longer to get. It's not just on Amazon, you know. Amazon's wonderful. That's my life. But at the same time, that's where we're at. It takes a lot of time and money. Gotcha.

Has your knowledge of drag racing, has your experience on the track and learning about these cars? Has it changed the way that you think about driving your standard vehicle every day? And has it, like, made you think about different factors in that? Yeah. I would say, I mean, I drive, you know, safety first, always. I do everything, safety. Everything I try to do is be proactive on what if. You know, so when I drive and how I think and what I do on the streets,

it's always, you know, marketing, promoting, trying to prove that show that, you know, we don't have to be fast on the street, you know, how we don't have to be running from one place. Like today, coming here, my God, you get to the mall and you're stopped in one lane. There's no hurry. Relax. We're all going to get there. I've never been, I did race. I was a two-time track champion myself.

That was just back when I was younger. Sure. But I guess, like for me, my daughter actually will be racing this year. And she doesn't think that way out in the street. You know, it's geared for the track. So once you go into the gates, that's where your mindset is at. How can I give somebody a safe surface? How can I be the safest I can be?

Make sure the seatbelts in your car. You know, making sure your car is 100% for the streets. The same thing for the track. So it kind of mirrors itself a little bit. So, you know, I'm a slow roller. You know, I'm a grandpa. You know, I think that way. So that's how I've always thought.

I mean, sometimes this traffic and all the construction going on is what it is. So you have to give yourself a few extra. minutes like I did this morning, thank God, because I think I did some laps around the building. Oh, yeah. No, there's some great construction going out. Yeah. So, you know, thank God for the people around who are like right there. So I would just say I'm more cognizance of my surroundings. It's just a safe environment, always trying to create that. Cool. I think you've kind of touched on it a little bit a few times, but basically street drag racing. What are your thoughts there? Well, I would love to see him come more to our

track. First and foremost, I have a race and I have a place for you to do that. We have a place for you to do that. And I guess what I see is unsafe situations. You know, street racing, outlaw, whatever you want to call it, which great, the shows and all that are very, you know, profitable. But the same time, there's not a structure. And your structure is within the people that are around. They're all great people. and we do tend to get them at our racetrack. So one thing I did this year, taking what we call test and tunes. It's called Run What You Brung, Test and Tune. It's basically open to anybody who wants to come run their car. What I did is I changed the hours from 10 to 4 to noon to 8. Nice.

To try to incorporate, maybe get the need for speed out of them a little bit. Sure. And not to mention these young, great young people. do not get up at 10 in the morning. Sure. So the street scene is really cool. There's nothing wrong with the street scene and going to show your car. But what I think, it's out there.

It's hard to stop. But at the same time, we have a place for them to come. If they want to invite 20 cars and come do their own little race, let us know, we'll make that happen. One thing we are open to is suggestions, opportunities. If there's, like I said, if there's 20 cars out there and they, all want to run each other, will create something for them to do that. So maybe that need for speed will be more at the track, and then they can go brag at the car show at night.

Sure. So that's my focus. I love every version of car. It does not matter because they can all go down on a track, whether it's a Honda, Mitsubishi, a Dodge Charger, Challenger, Camaro, new or old. We welcome all of that to get them off the street for the racing part. then let them go show their cars and brag about their time slips because they'll all get a time slip how fast their car was or wasn't. I love it. Somehow those ones I better, they're going

to disappear. Yeah, he's over and you're like, yeah, I'm going home, you know, but a lot of them do come out. They get their time slips and stuff and do what they want to do after the fact, but that's why we have incorporated the no prep, what they have a no prep class, which is basically your street racing, but we have Daddy Dave. I don't know if you're familiar with him. Daddy Dave is one of the bigger names in the no-prep racing. It's called DDR. It's coming June 14th, I believe. I have the schedule here.

June 14th, we have a DDR race. It's a no-pre. I don't do any prep. You won't see the tractor out for that. They just want your standard surface, and they're a group of guys that come out, and Daddy Dave comes. He puts on the show kind of a starstruck for a lot of the people

who want to come and check it out and see somebody who's been on. TV and that's great and that's what we invite we invite you to get off the street come out enjoy some time with us and at the same time maybe meet and greet some people because we're an open platform we're not sitting there fencing you in certain areas we have a big open variety of areas you can roam about so the no prep is kind of the new thing right now and we invite that we have four races coming up this year three three or four it's it always changes so i'm gonna i'm gonna talk to you about that in a second i got a different question

here and that is what is your favorite racing movie my favorite racing movie and then maybe least favorite i can't make it through a movie that's why it's tough so racing movie like Tokyo drift you ever watched Tokyo drift i've watched Tokyo drift i like to Tokyo drift i don't know i'm not going to lie because i do love drag racing i am a i run a drag strip but um the one will feral and uh yeah tell diga nights yeah yes oh what it and the one and the wonder bread car is toast that is my favorite line fantastic film you know it's yeah there's a lot of a lot of uh statements or phrases in that movie that can go for any kind of racing so i think i think the theme behind that is just the whole you know the racing and the fun and you just everything about it

is comical yeah um but there's you know, but what they're trying to achieve is the team efforts and the things you can do. And because I'm a comedy guy. I can, you know, there's, there's, I don't watch a lot of movies. So I'm too busy working. Sure. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't mean that I'm not human.

But there is some stuff that, but that would probably be one of my favorites because I love to laugh. And Will Ferrell, my God, he's nonstop. Right. No, that's great. Cool. Okay, great. So what events do you have coming up? You guys have a thing every Sunday, yeah?

We have every Sunday, but every Sunday we have a race. Technically, we're unofficially open this. We were technically supposed to be open May 3rd, rained out. May 10th, Mother's Day, rained out. But not just rained out. The grounds are very wet. So even though it may look dry, you drive by, you see dry pavement, all the grass is very wet. If anybody's from Cicero or that area in general, it's swamp.

You know, so we have some elevated areas that aren't bad, but you really can't get people in there with trucks and trailers and even regular cars because they'll sink. So tentatively, we're open this Saturday from noon to eight, quarter mile test in tune, run what you brung test in tune. I kind of switched the name up a little bit to make it flashy because when I went to the NHRA banquet, the gentleman said, try to put a name to it because it just invites more people. I'm willing to try anything. Try to get the car count up a little bit. So Saturday, the 16th is a run-what-you-brung test-in-tune open from 12 to 8 running any car you want. It doesn't matter if it's a street car, race car, middle of the road, bike, sled. We're open to everything.

And the gates open around 10 o'clock. And then Sunday, we have our Summit E.T. bracket race. So the bracket racing is eighth mile. So because because of the fact that most tracks run eighth mile, which is a half the track, we stick to that and keep it standard. If you wanted to make test and tune runs, you can still come out to the track. We offer that as well. Some people do not want to get involved in the race and they're not sure of the competitiveness and everything. So they just want to come and make some passes. So Sunday the 17th, we are tentatively open because of the weather. It looks like we're getting more this week as far as rain. But if not, we'll just

move it the following week and we'll keep going forward. June 1st, we start our first car shows. So we are doing car shows at the facility. It'll all be right in the staging lanes and most people I've talked to understand where that is. So I believe the weather looks pretty good and it's all on pavement. So we should be okay for June 1st. So June 1st starts our weekly car show every Monday, and then that'll be from four to eight. We'll do door prizes, we'll do 50-50 raffles, I'll have concession stand open, food truck, ice cream, and fun, relaxing. And that's every Monday. So I look forward to that. It's the first time we've done it. And right now I've gotten involved with a lot of the custom car crews presidents and different clubs and they're excited

because we have a facility and I can play music over the intercom and different things to keep it interesting but we're every Sunday. Cool. Schedule is on our website, www. www. sda drags.com and I'm all over the Esta Safety Park Dragstrip Facebook page. So if anybody has questions, I feel free to reach out. We highly suggest it. Beautiful. Well, hey, thank you so much for coming on. That's it? Yeah, that's it. I don't know. Is there any thing that you didn't cover me. I can go on all day. If you want to talk about more things, I'm happy to. Well, you know, the thing is we, I just want to make sure everybody knows we're there. We're right here in Cicero. Come on out and join us. It's only $20 to get in. The kids are

under eight or nine are free. I'll let them in. I just want people to come out and enjoy themselves. Cool. Get the family together and come out. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, it sounds great. And you know, I don't know, you can feel the passion that you have for this place. Thank you. Like, coming off of you. And it's wonderful. Everybody says it like you're, you're infectious. and I say, well, not a lot of guys will go out first thing in the morning and put into fence posts because I wasn't going to this morning, and I realized, son, let's go out. But the thing is, it's not a one-day thing. It takes seven days.

It takes a village between Todd Lipke, Vince Mussolino, my brother-in-law is Sean, Lance, who helps me manage the place, Gary Tucker, Mowland, my daughter, Brooks. I mean, I can go on and on, and I'm so grateful for all the people that are involved in the sponsors. We have sponsors. That's a whole other show. But you can't do it without them. And I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. I mean, if people don't help support you with the little finance, the backing, it doesn't happen.

It just doesn't happen. So I'm very grateful for all those people and our sponsors and in the community for putting up with us. I mean, we're right there. There's houses right next door. So we're a lot. So I thank you. I thank you for the time. I am passionate about it.

And hopefully we get on here again and do it again soon. Absolutely. No, that would be great. We'd love to have you back. Thank you. Very cool. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching. This is Good News York put on by ClickStream Studios.

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