Good News York by Growth Mode Content - GNY EP.73 | Matt & Mike
Episode Date: August 4, 2025Good News York: Office Talks, Stadium Discussions, and Modern Work Mindsets In this episode of Good News York, host Matt Major and his co-worker Mike discuss their understaffed Monday show, reflecting... on how Mike is managing the controls and providing entertainment through sound effects. They share weekend highlights, including Matt’s visit to a football training camp and exciting announcements about their business, Growth Mode. The duo explores topics such as the construction of new football stadiums, walkability on lunch breaks at work, controversial beverage mix-ups, and the evolving cultural mindset around work-life balance. The episode also hints at upcoming guests and stories, promising more exciting content throughout the week. 00:00 Welcome to Good News York 00:16 Running the Show with Mike 01:40 Weekend Recap and Exciting Projects 03:03 Growth Mode Content Company 04:17 Social Media Strategy for Clients 10:04 Buffalo Bills Stadium Talk 24:50 High Noon Vodka Seltzer Recall 29:35 The Allure of Light Drinks 31:16 The Decline of Traditional Bars 32:09 Craft Breweries and Their Impact 34:32 Nostalgia for Dive Bars 37:56 Upcoming Guests and Events 42:57 Work Culture and Breaks 45:00 Rethinking Work and Society 55:51 Final Thoughts and Sign-Off
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on this Monday morning. We're running a skeleton crew. Me and my man, Mike, I'm making him run the
board. So you will note that he's not to my left. He's actually in the control desk. Yeah, we don't really
have a booth, right? We need a control booth. Yeah.
I mean, we'll get there.
Talking to Mike over and the both.
But what's going on, buddy?
Man, I don't know where.
You're really discombodied in today.
Thank you for no.
You're really fucked up.
It's kind of amusing.
I'm not going to be very amusing because, as you know, at this point, the way my brain works,
I am way out of my comfort zone.
Which is funny because this is what you do all day.
I know.
Like this is your primary job is sitting in that particular spot running shows for people.
Yeah.
But our show, you're just completely lost.
Yeah, because I have, so it's now, am I not only not next to you, but I'm controlling the switching.
See?
I'm controlling the switching.
I have all my notes for what we're going to talk about.
I've got my buzzer, my sad trombone, got to have these.
And my favorite, your Law & Order thing that you got.
Oh, I worked on the first try today.
Yeah, no, I think I broke it in.
I think it's like one of those things where...
To loosen it up like shoes?
Yeah, yeah.
Like you got to break it in and then it's like, okay, yeah.
Like, yeah, that's a good call, like Doc Martins.
That's fair.
I can see that.
So I got to tell you, my weekend was, I don't know, how was your weekend first?
It was fine.
I spent it programming.
Okay, that sounds boring as shit.
What is that?
You know, it's what nerds do when we want to make computers.
been to our will.
Oh, well, that sounds way cooler.
I don't want to get in too in depth because I'm actually working on a project that we're
going to make a big announcement for, and it's one of those deals where, like, I want to get
all the pieces right rather than being one of these assholes who teases something big coming
next, you know?
Phil Fartre loves when people do that, by the way.
It's great.
But I made a significant, more than expected amount of progress on a really important part
of this new project we're going to launch.
So that was encouraging, I guess.
That's great.
Good way to spend a weekend, I guess.
Is this a...
It was productive, if that helps.
Yeah.
Is this something that we're in the loop of,
or is this like growth mode IT side?
Literally what I gave you when I walked in this morning, buddy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that thing that I fucked up within 30 seconds.
Yeah, that is exciting, and I'm excited.
We also have...
I want to tease a little bit for our growth mode clients.
We're adding some value to being a subscriber and having your podcast,
with us and I'm really excited about that.
I forgot we haven't even talked about that yet.
No, no, we have not. If you want to, I mean, you're the boss. Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, we haven't even really talked to a lot of our clients about it.
But I'm glad you brought it up, Mike, because it's something that we've been looking to do for a while, right?
And for some quick background, we started this growth mode content company now eight months ago.
We're in August.
I don't know how that happened.
That's amazing.
And we've been kind of laying the tracks, so to speak, for a lot of things that we've had planned from since before we launched, right?
But it's one of those things like anything else.
You've got to build it first.
And we've had to build literally our infrastructure here, our software, our systems, our procedures, get them really dialed in and then begin making content for our clients.
And that, again, is something that we had to just sort of start doing, right?
So we're bringing them in.
We're recording podcasts.
We're figuring out what works and what doesn't work.
And now we've got enough of that history to really kind of hit the ground running with some strategy.
And that's the part that we are adding as kind of a new value ad service.
And that will be a little bit of scripted social media content for all of our clients' businesses.
Yeah, I love it.
So to expand on that, for those of you watching or listening, you know, with our clients,
They subscribe once a month they come in, which might be twice a month now.
They get a full episode, right?
And it airs in its own organic place.
You have your own podcast.
People can subscribe like you would do, Apple, Spotify, anywhere where there's podcasts.
But the real value comes in the social clips that we do have a strategy for,
where we have a team that cuts these clips up and puts them out on their social media throughout the month.
And what I love about it is it's not like we're just cutting up clips and then putting them out.
Yeah.
We're sitting there going, you know, what works on LinkedIn and Facebook might not work here on TikTok with this particular.
There's a lot of thought that we do put into it.
100%.
And now, in addition to that, we, you have come up with the idea of adding some scripted stuff that we can shoot with them while they're here.
Not only shooting their podcast, we can shoot some teasers for their podcast, maybe an intro for their show.
Right.
And, you know, you've described it really well, Mike.
What we've been doing, what we've been talking about beating this drum heavily is this organic content, right?
And that is just exactly what we're doing now is as much as we're talking about something on deck, Mike and I don't have a script, right?
We're just kind of off the cuff talking.
You can't tell.
We don't have a script.
This is what our clients do.
They come in.
They have these natural conversations, like the ones that you have with normal people all day long.
And that's awesome.
And that has a ton of value.
but as we're trying to grow social media,
what can also have a lot of value,
specifically there are these things designed to check the right boxes,
right,
to tickle the friendlies on the algorithm
and really get things going
so that people start to get some real traction,
and that's what we're going to do.
So when we say scripted,
it's probably not going to be the type of thing
that's like every word, like a movie,
and we do it in 10 takes or those sorts of things.
But it's going to be the idea where we have a few things that are trending in that industry
and a few things that are video styles and techniques and hooks that are working for people
in our clients' industries so that we can kind of use what works and grab some traction on some of those
and then bring even more attention to the more organic that doesn't.
The organic doesn't necessarily always have that immediate like hook, salacious, whatever.
it's the thing that you want to get into
once you have a little bit of idea of who folks are
and this will help promote all of that.
100%. And you know,
you said it well now, obviously.
And I, look, when you hear scripted,
you think, okay, we're going to pull out this script
and okay, here's where I go here.
We're not that intense like you mentioned.
It's more of like a, kind of like a,
what's his name there?
Strong outline.
Yeah, well, strong outline or
what's, I can't, why am I blanking out on the director
that works Will Farrell all the time,
those guys.
Don't know.
Yeah, either way.
It's more of like that where there's a script,
but you kind of let it happen as it's recording.
It's open to interpretation.
But you know, Matt, one thing I will say,
and I'll say it so that you don't look like you're a complete egotomaniac,
is that you're brilliant in many ways in business
and in this lane.
But what I love is that every day that I come in,
to work. You are
strategizing or thinking
of some way where we
can improve whether that is technical
wise, like with our sound and video
and upgrading equipment, whether
it's how can we add more value to our clients
or, you know what, you know,
here's our best view, you know, here's
our videos that are performing
best. What did we do with those videos that we
can do? And you don't do anything
where you sell out and you're like, we've got to do
this because we need clicks. You're
just trying to improve us. And I just
I appreciate that and I know our clients do too.
Well, yeah, that's the name of the game.
And just an entrepreneurship, right?
That's, if it was simple, everybody would do it, right?
There'd be a recipe.
You'd make that recipe and you'd just let it make money for you.
Unfortunately, that's not how business works.
And especially when we are in a rapidly up-and-coming industry that, yes, we are kind of leading the way on it,
but we're certainly not the only ones doing this sort of thing.
and if we don't continue to offer value
and continue to get better at every step of the way,
then other people are going to eat our lunch
for lack of a better term.
Yeah, that's the part that always freaks me out
is, you know, I love what we're doing here
and we take it day by day
and we're just doing what we're good at.
But unfortunately, there is,
and I don't want to say competition,
because, you know, it's not like we're trying to beat anybody out,
but in any field where you're some sort of on
entrepreneur, you're going to have natural competition, which in my opinion is a good thing,
uh, in some ways because it makes you better.
But at the same time, you know, we, we have to stay up on it because if someone,
if someone takes this idea and, and does more or does better than we do, like you said,
it's eating our lunch and we're missing out.
So we do it with the intention to better ourselves and, and add more for our clients.
But we, yeah, we also, we have to, we have to be front runners in a lot of things.
that's for sure yeah so hey enough about us okay
I think you've got a couple of topics you want to talk about
and I got kind of a a fun Monday thing that we haven't quite done here before
but what do you want to do first fun Monday fun Monday thing
we'll save that for a minute why don't we I've been talking about what do you got
I like when you talk um all right so what I got is I went
to the return of the blue and red and what that means is I took my kids to
Is this a fucking football thing?
It is a fucking football thing.
I know, I'm sorry, dude.
But you're going to love the video.
So I took my kids.
I've wanted to take my kids to High Mark Stadium,
where the Buffalo Bills play,
to experience their first game.
It's never lined up because, A, of all,
they're too small, or, you know, it's too intense.
Is that what they're going to,
I guess you're going to call it the old stadium?
You know, it's funny you ask that
because on Bill's radio, on WGR,
they have been posing the question.
question to people. When the new stadium is built, and next year is the first year when they
move over to the new stadium, are you going to call it the Ralph, because it used to be called
Ralph Wilson, Rich Stadium, because it used to be called Rich Stadium for the old folks, or just
the old stadium. So the jury's out on that. So I don't know or care anything about this,
but just now that we're talking about it, are they going to tear down the old one when the new
one's ready? So that's another question. I believe they haven't given an official
ruling, but yeah, it's going to be, because it is right across the street. And, dude, it is
fucking massive, like massive. Yeah. And it wasn't, it wasn't a matter of like it was defective
or anything, right? It was a matter of needing more capacity and more modern spot. Honestly,
they, well, it was a matter of just the NFL themselves in general, want all stadiums to be
I see.
Upgraded and modern.
And if you can find an owner who has the money, which the Pekula is due,
you know, it's a bigger deal because for a long time, there was so many.
State of New York kicked in a billion dollars.
But anyway.
Yeah.
For a long time, they said that the bills, you know, once Ralph Wilson dies,
they're going to sell the team, they're going to move to Toronto.
And we were all terrified.
And then the Pagulas came in, who already owned the Sabers,
bought the bills and kept them.
in Buffalo, building a stadium, especially a billion-dollar stadium like this,
solidifies not only that they're going to be here, but for a long time.
And now we have a brand-new stadium.
And, dude, it is wild to me.
Was that really something somebody was going to worry about?
Oh, God.
People really thought the Buffalo Bills were going to move to Toronto?
Yeah, 100%.
And in fact, it was Donald Trump before he ran for president.
And John Bon Jovi were the two front runners.
and if you can believe this, Donald Trump played dirty.
No.
I know. It's crazy, right?
He's such an honest guy.
Just totally understands the middle class.
But he went around.
He hired people to go around and hand out flyers, like, basically slandering John Bon Jovi
that if he buys the team, he's going to run it in the ground.
So John Bon Jovi lost a kid.
John Bon Jovi is a loser.
Yeah.
He hasn't sold a record since 1989.
That's the worst Trump impression.
anyone has ever done ever.
That was really bad, but I still loved it.
I loved it.
It's my life.
It's now or never.
That's what John Bon Jovi said.
Anyway, so they have the stadium.
I assume they're going to knock it down, the old one, because they're going to need parking.
So hold on.
Back up a second.
John Bon Jovi was interested in buying the Bill Stadium, and then he didn't.
Has he ever tried to buy anything else?
He is part owner of, I think it's the arena football league,
Philadelphia somethings.
Like there's a small football league that he's in order.
So he bought the Utica Odd?
Yeah.
He essentially bought something like the OnCenter.
Yeah.
You know, the team.
Okay.
I just,
I guess I'd never known Bon Jovi as a sports dude.
That's all.
No, and not many people do.
And that's why they're freaked out.
They're like, what is he doing?
But he knows he's a good businessman.
He knows what he's doing.
So he was in the running.
Anyway, fast forward.
They buy the team.
They keep it here.
Now they have a stadium.
And, dude, that is,
great news. But here's
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The thing was if they're going to build a new stadium
Yeah
You know the fans were like, we need a dome
Because of the weather
Sure, right?
Well, half of the fans
like, fuck that.
Right.
I was kind of on that side.
I was like, no, the best part about football are the elements and the snow games.
And, you know, others were like, why wouldn't you use the advantage of now in the January
they can play in warm weather, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That went back and forth.
But I'm asking you as an entrepreneur and as a business owner yourself, you're in Buffalo,
New York, and you just paid, New York State and the taxpayers are paying a portion,
a majority portion of what it costs to build the new stadium.
Wouldn't you want something with at least a retractable roof so that you can bring in revenue during the winter and have whatever, concerts, expos, things of that nature?
I mean, that makes a lot of sense.
Definitely from a business standpoint.
On a football standpoint, and again, I'm not even a big football guy, so this might sound funny.
No, I like it.
I see Buffalo synonymous with playing in the snow.
I almost feel like that is one of their advantage.
You know, they're just like all these Northeast teams.
We're happy to play in the snow.
That's our home.
That's where we're comfortable.
Right.
So you get these Southerners that, you know, and whether or not, I don't know,
I guess you'd have to talk to an actual sports expert to tell you whether or not that really
makes a difference when it comes to these games.
But like I said, when I think of Buffalo Bills football, I think of bundling up and, you know,
freezing your ass off to watch them lose.
And that is what we do.
Yeah.
And honestly.
But so hold out a second because I just recently saw something on this, this new stadium.
And it's my understanding that even though it's not a dome, it's got a very unique design where the seats are considerably covered with an overhang.
And it's almost designed.
It looks like at an angle to where the, you know, the wind might help a little bit.
So even though there's a giant hole at the very top, you know, the angles kind of provide a little more protection, at least than he used to have.
Is that seem right?
You nailed it.
And that was kind of their counter.
Is that their compromise?
Exactly.
That was their compromise to play both, which was, by the way, your endorsement, I think,
is better than anybody's because you don't even watch football.
And for you to be like, I associate the snow.
I mean, you're totally backing it up.
I mean, Buffalo and anything you say, there's snow and Buffalo right now, I'm pretty sure.
Absolutely.
I think they're getting four inches to it's at least.
Four inches is fine.
But anyway, they, so.
their answer was yes.
So I forget the percentage, but for the sake of conversation, we'll say like 60% of, so the
overhang goes now over the lower level.
So you do get partial coverage.
It's almost like they gave you a moon roof, you know?
Yes.
No, that's a great, great comp.
And so now there's also there's heating on top of the roof so that the snow melts on the
field is heated so that it'll melt there.
I mean, so there's a lot of.
Just, I mean, look, you're getting a billion-dollar stadium.
So there better be.
I'll be honest, though, and again, I haven't put much thought into this at all other than right now.
But you said something that just blanked my...
You said, you know, why didn't they put a retractable roof?
Mm-hmm.
Why the fuck didn't they put a retractable?
That's why I'm...
I mean, look, I mean, the easy answer is more money, but at this point, I mean...
Here's the thing.
How much fucking money can something cost?
Right.
Like, seriously.
you're going to tell me that it really takes that much, and I get it, it's a big steel thing.
But we've built big steel things many times in the past, and I know inflation or whatever.
But I feel like if you took the amount of money you spent on the Bill Stadium whenever the old one was built and adjusted it for inflation, we'd still be nowhere near the cost of today's stadium.
Maybe I'm wrong.
That's fair.
Again, this is, in my head, I could be a fucking idiot completely wrong.
But like, a billion, no, nobody understands how much money a billion dollars is.
If you got a dollar every day from now to the beginning of the fucking human history, you wouldn't have a billion dollars.
Yeah, people say all the time when people argue online about like the national debt, you know, or whatever, doge was saving something billion.
a trillion, but they only saved a billion,
and people don't realize the space between, you know,
billion and trillion and million and billion to billion.
People don't understand scale.
But still, like,
I'm shocked to find out that you could spend above a billion dollars,
and that doesn't get you a fucking roof like is in my Audi.
I do.
I know.
Like, this is not a difficult concept.
I agree.
And then you're right, because then you could use it.
Because now what do they do?
It literally just goes completely unused in the winter months, right?
Other than football?
Right.
I mean, because that was my thing, more than the elements, because I was like, okay,
a retractable roof, everybody wins because you leave it open all season for the games.
But now you can have, you know, anything, whatever.
I'm thinking about the dome here at Syracuse.
Yep, it's there for football.
Also championship basketball and events and movies and massive, massive concerts.
and all these things in the time of year
where it would otherwise be covered in snow.
And that's my only question.
I have no complaints.
I love that there's no roof.
I think it's great, but I'm just looking at it from a business standpoint.
From a football standpoint,
if they had a retractable roof,
would other teams be able to demand it was closed during games?
No, I believe that's just up to the team.
I didn't know if maybe that was the thing where, like,
if we wouldn't get that advantage because they would for,
us to close the roof all the time sort of thing.
No, I think, I mean, I can't confirm that this is how it goes,
but I'm fairly 100% sure.
It's up to the team and the ownership.
You don't just waltz in and go, we'd like that closed, please.
Well, I just didn't know.
You know, if you claim that's like an unfair advantage.
Right.
You know.
Yeah.
I always thought the same thing in like baseball, how like some stadiums,
like right field in Yankee Stadium is, I forget the measurement,
but I mean, it's a short right field.
where in other parks, you know, a home run.
A home run in Yankee Stadium would be a pop-out.
And I just, I always wondered, I'm not saying I like or dislike,
but I just always thought, why wouldn't they make it the same?
I love that every park is different,
but at the same time from a, you know, advantage standpoint.
I just thought maybe it should.
So we're effectively spending billions of dollars on one sport.
Yeah.
But anyway, all of that to say.
Mike's like, I'm okay with that because I love that sport.
Yes.
I took my kids to the return of the blue and red.
And what that is is so...
It took us a long way to get back back.
I know, I know.
All season long, or not all season long,
in the beginning of, like,
or end of July, beginning of August,
training camp starts.
And that is where the teams finally come together.
They start training.
Every team, most every team,
doesn't train for training camp at the stadium or in their city.
They go somewhere.
Yeah, I remember when I lived in Tampa,
there was multiple teams.
It was real common.
and just go see them practice down there.
100%.
And that was for different reasons.
But the biggest reason is
they want to just be able to get these players
away from home and, you know,
and being together and they stay in dorms
and you build chemistry.
But the bills started about five years ago
where they pick in the middle,
it's like a two weeks for training camp.
And at the end of the first week,
they bring everybody back to the stadium.
And they do a live practice
where you can get free,
tickets and first come first
serve and you watch them practice and then
they do a little scrimmage but the best
part is you're allowed to
bring in stuff for autographs
you know the players come to
the side Josh Allen plays catch with
the kids they
sign footballs and girls like 30,000 people there
or something that's about right actually they set
a record for 40,000 this year so
the stadium holds like 71s
for practice dude that's insane
bills mafia is so I wanted to bring my kids to their
game, but I thought, man, it's a little intense.
Imagine if the team was good.
What are you talking?
I'll kill you.
I'll kill you.
So I decided, I want to bring my kids.
I want them now they're finally at that age, but more importantly, I want to take them
to their first game, but man, a game is pretty intense.
I'll take them to a preseason game.
So coming up this Saturday, I got us tickets to a preseason game, which is fairly cheap.
It's six rows up.
Great.
But then when the return of the blue and red popped up in my email, I went,
I'm like, ooh, this might be a good way for me to take the kids.
They can, you know, they go to the stadium because they're all nervous, break them in.
And then when we go to the game next week, they'll be like, oh, this is great.
This is cake.
So we went, dude, and I have a video.
When people are asking me, like, so I still have to post all of the pictures.
So you went out to Buffalo this past weekend.
I took my kids, just me and my two kids.
And you're going again next week.
And I'm going again next week.
And I'm going again next weekend.
Okay.
But so everyone's like, how did it go?
I'm like, I have a million videos and pictures,
but I feel like this video,
this nine second clip will sum up
exactly how the day went.
Josh Hanlon really gets you like that, does it?
Yes, yes, 100%.
That is, that's the video.
That is the video.
I could not believe we were that close to,
because it's first come for a serve
that you don't pay for tickets, right?
And you did.
So as soon as the gate opened,
we darted down and we got
second row, like 30 yard line.
And I was that close to Allen.
And my God, it was amazing.
Anyway, so that was the majority of my weekend.
Did we really just go through that whole setup to see that three seconds?
Yeah.
Awesome.
Well, I mean, I was more about talking about, you know, the weekend generally.
But it was great.
And I love the bills.
I'm excited.
And I'll be going to the preseason game next week as well.
I wanted to talk about this one story.
dude, because this fucking blows my mind.
Did you hear about high noon recalling the vodka
seltzers?
Yeah.
The seltzes, what?
Oh, this story is wild.
Dude.
Dude.
As somebody who quit drinking, October 1st, 2020 was my last drink.
So I am at this point about five years sober almost.
If I broke my goddamn sobriety over a Celsius.
Unintentionally.
Unintentionally, I'd be a millionaire because I would sue their ass.
Yeah.
What are your thoughts as a business?
How do you fuck this up?
Oh, you're, I mean, this is bad.
This is real bad.
So for those don't know, High Noon, which makes a canned vodka drink, and as you know, all these beverage companies are all the same thing.
They all crank out a million different drinks.
The same facility makes the Celsius energy drink, right?
Correct.
Which is not alcoholic.
No, it's an energy drink.
It's actually great.
I love it.
Same size can.
Same shape.
Same everything as, you know, can drinks are.
At the factory, somebody put the high noons in the Celsius cans.
Or I guess you could say maybe they labeled the high noon with the Celsius label.
Whichever way you want to do it.
However.
They put the booze in the can that said no booze.
And to me, it's just like finding a golden ticket.
And here's the thing.
They didn't just do this and then do a run of them and then they get done and the guy went, oh, shit, guys.
No.
These came off the assembly line and were sent all across the country.
Yes.
They were distributed from, usually the shit's regional, right?
Like, oh, this happened at this one facility in Texas and, and, you know, the cases made it to two states.
No, literally across the country.
And again, if you drink a Celsius and get hammered.
I mean that's like a golden ticket
you now own the high noon company
you know five years ago I would have been
like you I would have said fuck yeah
it's the golden ticket baby
but as someone who quit drinking I realize
now like holy shit
well here's the thing that of course
I'm not in that boat so that thought wasn't
the first one that crossed my mind
you'll never give up wine
wine slushies you'll never give them up
as I looked at the comments
that was everybody said and I was like I said I didn't even think
about that holy fuck you know
yeah man I mean
Can I ask you this?
And I don't, again, we're talking about a lot of things I don't know anything about.
So this is a true podcast.
Women.
Having stopped alcohol, if you were to accidentally consume it,
is that the same as you kind of fallen off the wagon and you've decided to have a drink?
You know, look.
Like if you were to just found yourself intoxicated, would that
kick it off and go, shit, I'm going to have 10 more?
Or would you go, I think there's something wrong with me?
I have to be very careful because everybody is different.
Sure.
Who has had an alcohol problem or has an alcohol problem or is an alcohol.
And how they got out of it.
Yeah, so I cannot speak for everybody else.
I know some people who, if they had one sip, forget it.
Now they're going to rip into all.
It just break the seal.
I don't think that's me.
I think it would hit me and I would immediately,
feel it and remember everything that comes along with it and love it.
But I'd like to...
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To believe that I have that little switch to go, whoa, you know, put that shit down.
You don't want to go down this road again.
Yeah.
But that's the thing is you don't want to put yourself in that position to even wonder about it.
And they did that.
I mean, this is a big fuck up.
Now, here's also the thing.
I've drank high noons.
I've not drank Celsius,
and I think this was a particular flavor
or whatever Celsius too.
I have it here.
How quickly might somebody notice?
Oh, you would notice for sip.
Yeah.
You would notice first sip.
So with that in mind,
the reality is it's going to be kind of hard
for people to really,
and I feel like when the lawsuits
inevitably come,
that'll be the first defense of any lawyer
who goes,
well, you clearly knew
this wasn't the drink you purchased.
Yeah.
Yes.
Someone wrote...
You proceeded to drink 10 of them.
You know, like...
That's true.
That's actually a good point.
Like, because I heard, like,
DWI lawyers are like foaming at the mops.
They're like, now we can use this as a defense.
But you make a good point, which is, okay, you took a sip.
You realized it was, you know, it was alcohol.
You didn't have to keep drinking.
But then again, like I said, there are some people who are that severe.
If they have one sip, they can't stop.
So, I mean...
I also, like I said, I also want to take that with a grain of salt, like I said,
because I don't, I've never had that flavor of Celsius,
and I know it's, it's like a light, you know, one of those like borderline water drinks, right?
Isn't that the idea?
It's not like a soda that's, it's, yeah, it's, which is the same, high noon is the same type of deal.
It is.
You know, so I don't know.
I don't, I don't.
If you've never had one of those Celsiuses and wouldn't know it to compare,
I could see that could be a, especially if you're a kid who then buys the fucking thing from the convenience store.
That's a great point, too.
You know, see, that's what I mean.
And, you know, those kind of drinks, too, it is.
What an awesome way home.
Yeah.
You stop.
You get out of school, you stop at Gills, and you grab a drink out of the cooler,
and you're on the way about three blocks down the road going,
I never felt so good.
Yeah.
This is the best day ever.
I don't give a shit about school.
Wow.
Yeah, dude.
But those drinks, too, it's not like when you.
when you pour alcohol into a, like, you can bury that alcohol taste fairly well, so you're right.
You know, some people might drink it and not know.
I think you might have, I don't know if you've ever had a high noon.
I feel like you might have quit before they came to style.
I had one right.
Right before I quit, I tried one, and it was god awful, in my opinion.
So it depends on which flavor you get, but they are, again, one of those things that's not very strong flavored no matter what.
Yeah.
So it's almost
even if you're not a heavy...
It's something you can just pour down
because it's not strong of anything.
You know what's crazy, though?
It's not as big of a story
as it would have been 10 or 15 years ago
because people are not drinking like they used to,
which is wild to me.
I mean, it's great.
We've talked about this before.
Yeah.
It's good in general.
At the same time, it makes me worry about society a bit.
Yeah, for sure.
It's great health-wise and that,
But as a society and as for the bar industry, the restaurant industry, it's, you know, I think it's just the pandemic kind of made everyone realize, wow, I'm a fat fucking alcoholic and I need to quit.
And I think that was a big part of it.
Might have been.
But anyway.
What else?
Do you think?
Let me ask you this.
See, we're getting on random topics.
Let's do it.
In the past decade, maybe a little bit more, the government.
really, especially in New York, I can't speak to other states, but I think similar in the other states, the government really got excited about the idea of craft breweries.
And they put together all kinds of money.
And we saw all kinds of these places pop up all over the place, most of which have not survived.
But I got to wonder, like, did the government embracing alcohol make it so cool that it's not fun anymore?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, dude, it's funny.
because growing up.
It was always this bad, and now it's like,
we can't wait to celebrate the opening of this new bar.
Yeah.
Except we don't call it a bar anymore.
It's a craft brewery.
And you can bring a frisbee and your dog.
Newsflash, it's a fucking bar.
Yeah, yeah.
They literally make the shit right there.
Some breweries, it's been in the news lately,
some breweries are now banning children,
and that's a big controversy.
Not enough.
You agree with it?
I also strongly believe that that has killed the bar.
industry or at least the craft.
So here's what we did, right?
We replaced regular hole-in-the-wall bars with upscale craft breweries where a single
beer cost as much as a 12-pack used to cost.
And then we said, hey, by the way, bring your fucking little kids here.
So people did.
And now legitimate alcoholics, which I'm sorry, were the bread and butter of the neighborhood
bar won't step foot in that place because the cost of two days.
drinks is as much as they spent drinking for a whole week back in the day. I bartending for over
10 years. They want to go. They want to put some blues on the jukebox, shoot some whiskey, maybe
play pool and not have to. They're there to get, they're there to get away from kids. Yes.
And, and loud noises. You ever see some of those guys? Remember, remember back in the day
in some of the valley bars, maybe like Peets or Crossways? There was always a couple of dudes
that were sitting there at the bar
staring at their beer
can of beer
cheapest one they had at the bar
$1.50 cans, whatever the fuck.
If you were to say hello,
they would look at you like they wanted to rip your fucking head off.
All they wanted to do,
even though they wanted to do it in public,
was sit there and be left alone
and just drink until closing time.
You could not be more correct, my friend.
I worked at the greatest dive bar
in the world. It is still there, and I will stand by this. It is called the Creeker,
formerly the Fall Creek House. It is a neighborhood bar in Ithaca, in the middle of a
neighborhood. It is the most, some of the craziest, most amazing nights in my life were spent
there. Five years I bartended there, but I also frequented it there. You walk in, it's a place
that you'd be like, this is shady as fuck, but it's not. And here's what was great about it.
On any given day, you could walk in, and there would be Cornell gradststores.
students sitting next to old veterans who are alcoholics and their livers hanging out of their
belly button.
And then you're sitting there and all of a sudden someone like pulls in on a bike and
skids out and hits the wall.
Like there were no rules there other than just don't, don't be rude to the bartenders
of the owner.
I mean, it was just, it was just amazing.
And that is exactly what it would be.
I remember when I first started working there, I'd come in there with my spiked hair and
there'd be old guys sitting there putting salt in their beer and they'd look at me like,
Who's this fucking freak?
You know, and I'd win them over eventually, not all, but most.
And I miss that.
Yeah.
We need it.
Yeah.
We need it.
Well, now those guys who are buying $1.50 cans have to spend $14.95 for a sip of craft beer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And all IPAs.
And then they're like, hey, how come nobody drinks anymore?
Yeah.
Can't imagine why.
Yeah.
And like, did you ever notice?
Also, you can get a DWI if you look at the 12.
pack from three aisles away at Wegmans, but.
You know what else?
I used to talk about this in one of my stand-up bits.
I need to breathalize you.
Which was, like, the names of beers now are fucking ridiculous.
Like, I did a stand-up show at a brewery, a craft brewery.
I was there.
Yeah, that was one of them I did.
Yes, you were there at one of them.
But this is a different one.
And the name of the beer was there were 1,000 tiny Michael Jackson's, which, okay,
Do you know what Michael Jackson did?
You really want to drink that?
But they would always have these names like,
can I get a pint of the, let me get a pint of the stagnant piss, please.
You know what I mean?
Like, the names are just way too, like whatever happened to just, you know,
hazy IPA or a...
Listen, man, if you're going to name shit weird, be a pothead.
Strains of weed are made for bizarre names.
If you're going to drink beer, you just need to drink beer.
Yeah.
Isn't it funny, too?
How when we grew up, it was like, if you got caught drinking underage, it was,
ha, boys will be boys.
But if you got caught with one marijuana cigarette, a joint,
you need to stop hanging out with your friend, you need to go to drug counseling,
you're going to be a loser.
And we found out now, fast forward 2025, it is the exact opposite.
Mistake 1,374 caused by boomers.
You know it.
And we know it.
You can basically say, hey, remember when our boomer parents made us do X
and there you
there's everything
I don't
remember turning on the interior light in a car
was like
what are you doing? Turn it off, we're going to die!
We're going to get arrested. Yeah, we're going to get arrested.
Don't sit too close to the television.
You'll go blind.
Yep.
I didn't go blind. I went blind from doing something.
Something else.
All right, anyway, real quick.
Oh, coming up this week, I wanted to tell you
we have
one guest coming on,
Wednesday.
Chad.
45 minutes in and you're going to do the deep teas now.
Yeah.
He's coming in.
He did an amazing thing.
He owns an HVAC company and he really took care of a community center.
I can't wait for that.
And also possibly we got Vinnie P.
coming in who is the guy.
Remember the guy from the Metallica?
Nope.
Let me show you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me show you.
Well, here's Chad.
That's the HVAC guy.
My man.
Yeah, he's coming in Wednesday.
Good buddy of mine.
He's from Syracuse.
He did an amazing thing for that woman in the community center.
We're going to talk about that.
But we're also going to...
Where did it go?
There it is.
Remember this?
Oh, yeah, the Metallica kid.
Dude, so the photographer that posted this looking for the kid,
if you didn't hear or see the show,
this kid basically got a picture with Metallica because he walked...
The gentleman who made this original post
is the actual original photographer.
I didn't realize that.
Yeah, yeah, the guy that made the post looking for that kid
is the original...
Glease here on the
Facebook.
So,
long,
long story short,
Metallica was
at a hockey game
and this photographer
was there
taking pictures
for the hockey game
and he saw Mattel.
Better yet,
just go watch the clip.
We already talked about.
Okay, fine.
We follow up on this show.
Okay,
follow the,
watch the clip.
But anyway,
my point is
the fucking guy,
the photographer saw
our clip
and contacted me
through LinkedIn
and said,
dude,
thank you so much.
And I said,
listen,
why don't you come
on the show and he said I'd love to.
So we're going to have him on this week as well.
I love when Mike's going and I just throw a wrench in it and he gets all extra flustered and
it's just funny to me.
I don't get, I didn't get flustered.
You motherfucker.
It's like the time I told you to stop interviewing the monster guy.
What was that?
Do you remember it to K Rock?
I thought.
Well, yeah.
Mid interview, you're like, all right, that's enough.
I'm like, but I, okay.
Well, to be fair, you were going on to way more than I had ever planned.
Me?
I just wanted to hear what was on.
cans and you're like, so bro, tell me about your life story. And he's like, well, when I was a boy,
I'm like, nobody cares. It all started in 1982. I didn't even feel like standing there to let him
finish his sentence. That's how bored I was. I know. I ain't nobody going to watch that video.
I know. Yeah. You got anything else? Yeah, real quick. Okay, cool.
This is pretty cool. They're doing a, uh, where is it here? What is it? It's here somewhere.
They're doing a movie in the park.
I didn't pull it up.
Where the hell is it?
They did.
Oh, it's in the printer.
I never went and got it from the printer.
But basically, somewhere in Syracuse, because I don't have the story in front of me,
they're showing rookie of the year at the Mets Stadium.
That's what it is.
So Syracuse Mets, we love them.
We've been there.
We shot an episode there.
They're going to be showing Rookie of the Year,
which is one of my favorite baseball movie.
of all time as a kid.
Coming up in the next few weeks, they're going to be showing a movie there.
And that got me thinking like...
Is that one of those deals where it's like after the game?
So you come watch the game and then go see the movie?
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
And I was just like sitting there thinking like, what would be your ideal plate?
Like what movie would it be and where would you want to watch it?
Like, for example, like a bad one would be like watching Titanic on a cruise ship or like
standing in the middle of a fire and watching backdraft or flying somewhere.
and you're watching snakes on a plane.
But like...
That was the one I was going to see.
Yeah, or maybe you go to Dallas
and you're like, let's watch Debbie does Dallas.
I have had it with these motherfucking snakes
on this motherfucking plane.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Like maybe you could watch Shawshank in that prison where they shot it
because that's actually you can go there and they do tours.
Or maybe, I don't know,
maybe you want to watch a league of their own
at the double day field in Cooperstown where they shot it.
I don't know.
But I just like the idea of that you're going to watch
a baseball movie at a baseball party.
Yeah, that's great.
We love the Syracuse Mets.
That's cool.
Yeah.
What do you got?
Let's finish it off with what, I don't know, you said you had some.
So I'm, you know, chronically online.
And when you do that, you spend a little time on the old Reddit.
Boy, that is a shithole, right?
Think?
Ooh, anyway.
It's almost as bad as X.
There is one of the most popular subredits is called Am I the Asshole?
And if you're not familiar, this is a section where folks,
pose a story, a situation, and they ask the audience, ask the readers, are they the asshole in this story?
And people either vote yes or.
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Interestingly enough, as I was scrolling through these, the vast majority is not the asshole.
So I feel like
As snarky as people on the internet are
I feel like people might go out of their way
To post these stories that make them look good
So they'll always come out
I don't know
Sure
But anyway
Am I the asshole for taking walks on my lunch break?
Starts out a few years ago
I started a job that was more office based
than previous jobs because of that
I was moving less gaining some weight
Got very out of shape
I'm not overweight but I'm carrying a little more fat
than I used to
And I can tell my cardio ability
has gone down.
I get a one hour paid lunch every day.
A lot of my coworkers eat at their desk and do a little work,
maybe answering an email, but mostly eating.
I personally go to my car and eat,
and then I do laps around the parking garage before I go back in.
Walk.
She doesn't do laps in the car around the parking garage.
Okay.
Just to be clear.
I'm never gone for more than the hour that I have for my lunch,
and I'm back on time.
Recently I did my normal routine,
grabbed my lunch, went to my car, ate it, started walk,
happened to run into a coworker during my walk.
He was out there because he's,
forgot something he needed from his car.
He stopped me and asked what I was doing.
I told him I ate my lunch, and now I'm going for a walk before lunch break is over.
He didn't like that idea.
He said that lunch break is for eating, not walking, and that when I'm done eating,
I should go back to work.
I told them that we're given an hour for lunch, so I want to use all of it in the best way I can.
I think he told other people because I then began receiving comments.
Before I go on break that I didn't receive before, I don't think I was wrong.
I'm entitled to my break.
All my work gets done on time,
and I take about the same amount of time every day,
so it's expected when I won't be available.
I may come back for a few urgent emails,
but I've never had any emergency when I was gone.
Talk to my parents about it.
They both said that they worked through their lunch,
and I shouldn't be out walking,
but also they're older and raised in a different time,
so don't know if I should trust their judgment.
So, am I the asshole for taking a walk on my lunch break?
Absolutely not, in my opinion.
You are correct.
That is the correct answer.
It's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Here's a problem we have.
This is classic American boomer work mindset.
You're going where I'm going.
This is one of the, probably the biggest issue that I take with our American society.
I believe this idea is uniquely American.
And it's something that I try to talk about.
on a very regular basis.
This idea that you are who you make money for.
This idea you meet somebody and, oh, hey, what do you do for a living?
That's the first thing we ask because in a capitalistic society, we constantly have to do
stratification.
We've got to put things in categories.
So when we meet someone, what do you do?
Because we have to go, okay, they make this much money.
Are they?
Yeah.
And it's all, you know, how much money do you make for somebody else?
That's the wildest part about all of this.
And, you know, you'll hear, you might have remembered people, our parents' age and their generation talk about, what's the worst thing that you could say about somebody?
They don't have a job.
Yep.
They're lazy.
He don't work.
He ain't worth a shit.
Ironically, that extends to, like, not even just having a job, but they also expect you to literally kill yourself at the job.
As you can see in this story here, the-
people, how dare you might take your lunch break and not continue?
You're judged.
To be productive.
If you work more than 40 hours a week, whoa, you are a real man, you are a real citizen.
That's that mentality.
You know, and it bothers me too with like the trickle down economics is part of that where it's like,
if you work 40 to 60 hours a week someday and you save someday, you'll be rich.
You don't end up rich because we don't pay living wages first of all.
fucking scam. And trickle-down economics doesn't work. But it's, it's that mindset where it's,
you got to pull yourself up by the bootstrapped. And you got to work 40 hours, at least 40 hours a week,
Monday through Friday. You can't have three days off. It is such an outdated mentality. And I am not
for people not working. That is not what it's about. But there's a way, I studied this in college,
and we talked about it on one of my clips where I, you know, other countries, like you have us work
four days a week. We get three, three days off. You know what that does? That gives me an extra day
what my family, which makes me happier, which makes my kids happier because their dad's around more.
And you pay me a living wage so I can afford to have health care and pay my rent or my mortgage.
You know, it doesn't have to be 40 to 60 hours a week where you bust your ass.
We can all work very hard and give people a work life balance.
It's not rocket science.
That's it.
And, you know, like I said, it's just this whole mindset.
And I really want to break that because it's insane.
I'll go so far as to say, you know, here's the thing.
I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a businessman, I'm an employer, I employ people, and I pay them good wages, and there's a lot of things that I need them to do.
At the same time, if you tell me that there's some guy down the street who's lazy and he's just getting food stamps and he's not working, I have zero fucking problem with that person whatsoever.
I don't care how hard you work.
I don't.
I don't care.
You've got to work this hard in order to earn welfare.
I don't care.
if you're a human being, you deserve basics,
which to me include food, health care, and shelter.
Healthcare is not a luxury, it's a fucking human right.
The fact that it's 2025,
and we're too worried about the name of the Gulf of America
or Gulf of Mexico, instead of giving people affordable
or free health care is fucking mind-blowing to me.
It is.
And that's as close as politics as we'll get on this show.
I know we're not about that, but, you know.
No, no, that's it.
And like I said, I just like anytime I see these,
this work mindset.
I really like to say something about it.
Me too.
The reality is it's so baked into our culture
that most people don't even realize
that it is an idea that is not natural.
You know what I mean?
It's one of these things that is implanted.
And what I would love folks to do,
even if you disagree with me, you know,
you're like, oh, people need to work their ass off
in order to earn a fucking cookie.
Okay.
All I would ask of you, though,
is just to ponder for a second,
who that thought most benefits and who might have planted that seed.
When you go, when you look at somebody and you judge him by how hard he works and how much money he makes for me, I'm the business owner.
Somebody looks at you and goes, what do you do for a living, Mike?
And you go, oh, I'm a podcast producer.
Oh, okay.
Well, you're in a salary for that.
That's respectable, right?
It's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
I couldn't.
I couldn't agree more.
It's all about what benefits me.
Right.
It's the business owner, the corporations that are telling you that you have to work so hard so that you can benefit them.
You're never going to make more than them, you know, and I just...
They're also the one that benefit from this idea of you putting down your coworker.
Yep.
Right?
So what if I tell...
Hey, that Danny's a lazy fuck.
Sure is.
And you know what?
We could all make more.
You could make more money if your co-worker wasn't so lazy.
So why don't you...
Diarrhea.
We're getting a little crazy.
But you know what I mean?
Like that's that whole thing.
It's not even a matter of putting down you specifically,
but it's getting you to ride the other guy to make him work harder for me.
Yep.
And like I said on that clip before,
and we've talked about it,
and you live it,
which is incredible to me,
is that there are employers in other countries where they,
I mean,
we're talking industries like factory industry,
you know, manufacturing.
where, you know, if you're not open five days a week, you're not, you're not, you're not,
you're not manufacturing on that fifth day. But here's the thing. These people get four,
they work four days a week. They get like four weeks vacation. They have three days off.
What people don't understand is that serves the employer too because these people are more
rested. They can, they're, they're healthy because they have health insurance. They will,
they will stay and be more loyal because they have it so good. But we've been trained to think
the opposite. And it's mind-blowing to me that we can't adopt this new mentality of we can still
work our asses off, but it doesn't have to be five days a week. It doesn't have to be 40-plus hours.
It can still be done by allowing you to spend time with your families. Look about how many
fucked up people there are because they had terrible childhoods because their parents were busting
their ass poor or working too hard and weren't around. I mean, I could do it. Dude, you hit the nail
on the head. So this is the last thing I'll say about this. This whole idea, again, I'm a business owner.
benefit from you working hard for me.
But also, I benefit from you not getting burned out.
And that's the part that's crazy.
You can go, all right, yeah, Matt, you don't care about it.
You think, you know, from a moral standpoint, you just want everything to be nice and everybody
to be great.
No, guys, you don't understand.
This is a selfish standpoint.
What I'm advocating is the best for my business.
Yep.
If we have a society where, keep in mind, people seem to forget this.
We live in a consumer-driven.
economy. You know what that means? Yeah. That means consumers, who are consumers, workers,
are the ones fueling everything. I might have the coolest t-shirt. I might have the hottest
product on the market, but if nobody can fucking buy it, it's worthless. Exactly. But when those people
have more money and have more time to go ahead and buy those things, that's what boosts my
business. Give workers money, treat them well. They will last longer year in business.
they will be more loyal, and you'll have a better business.
That's the wildest part about all this shit.
If you treat people well, it will come back to you in a positive way.
I'll take it quickly.
I'll take it a step farther where it's, you know, it's about thinking outside of the box
and thinking of things from the reverse side.
Like, for example, clearly we have a ton of problems at the border we have for as long as
the border has been there, right?
And everyone thinks we've got to shut the border.
We've got to leave it open for certain people.
And we go back and forth.
how about we take it a step further and think outside of the box in that same way?
How about we send troops or whoever it may be to the places where everybody is fleeing from
and help them peacefully solve the issues there so that people aren't fleeing from there
and illegally crossing?
In other words, go to the problem and see if you can resolve the problem there.
If everyone's running from somewhere, there must be something going on where there's smoke,
there's fire.
So instead of shutting off the border or partially opening it or dealing,
dealing with all this bullshit, why don't we start going to some of these places and seeing if we can make a difference?
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I'm a libtard.
I don't know.
I love it.
I love it because he's dead on.
I am dead on.
Here's the thing.
Again, this isn't a political show, but the reality is the majority of these refugees came from countries where our policies shifted and made their countries not so great.
And you can't treat everybody like they are the cartel.
You cannot blanket statement the whole like, well, people that come here, they all steal our jobs and they all commit crime.
And it's like, what about the families that are just trying to come here for opportunity, you know, and maybe they're doing it the wrong way.
But it's, we make it out to be like they're all these villainous people.
These are human beings.
And some of them are villainous and they should be treated like they're villainous.
But you can't treat the people next to them who are not doing the same thing in the same way.
It's just it's discretion.
That's what we need discretion.
The last thing I'll say on this is
this is the reason there's foreign aid.
Yeah.
A lot of people get bent out to say,
well,
we're sending all that money over to wherever.
And don't get me wrong,
there's lots of times where it is a waste,
but there's lots of other times
where we're doing it to keep their shit there.
So they don't come here.
So they don't bring us their problems.
Dude, and to bring it full circle,
I'm glad you said that.
It's that same mentality.
of what we talk about.
International aid is a part of defense.
It's the same thing we were talking about
with the job, which was what?
Well, if I give them four weeks' vacation
and I only make them work four days a week,
they're more loyal.
Things are better for everybody.
Same thing. If we send foreign aid
so they can keep their shit together,
it helps everybody.
But see, a lot of the mindset in politics
is I don't care unless it directly affects me.
I don't know what empathy is.
Okay. I don't know.
What is this?
Bad news yore?
I don't know.
Fired up news yore?
We're going on a...
Danny doesn't show up because he's sick and look what happens.
He's normally the one that just cuts us off.
Yeah, it's because he's lazy.
That guy, shut up.
He doesn't fucking work.
He's lazy.
He's not here.
Fucking guy Tana paid sick day.
Fucking piece of shit.
How dare he?
I bet she's on a walk.
Yeah.
I love you, man.
Oh, man.
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