Gooday Gaming Guests - 01-05 Original Xbox and PS2 Disk Code Process

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Rule of Rose – Rare survival horror.Kuon – Another hard-to-find horror game.Haunting Ground – A spiritual successor to Clock Tower....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, so we're going to do, I think what I said I was going to do PS2. Oh, no, no, I'm going to do original Xbox. We're going to do the discs. So we learned yesterday I did Sega Saturn and Sega Genesis. And I learned, which I didn't know that, I know it was a GD-ROM, but it's actually a disc that's actually different and holds 1.5 gigabytes, which I did not know that. And it has two different stages on the drive for different accessing on the disk drive.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And it has something compatible to the wobble groove in the PS1. It has this different kind of code, but people always find a way to get around them. And I think this, I forget what the speed of those are. But it uses the CAV, constant, no, CVA, constant velocity, as opposed to CFA, I want to say. Anyway, it goes at the same speed all the time. It doesn't go slower or faster. And then I did GameCube and it's a lot
Starting point is 00:01:06 smaller. Therefore it's quieter. The lens didn't have to go back and forth. So I learned a lot about those yesterday. So today we'll do Xbox One. And I just want to make a mention that today is a historical day. That's all I'm saying because if I say anything
Starting point is 00:01:22 then it doesn't come on my thing correctly today was a good day of history in the making still making and it was a holiday too both of them make it an interesting day
Starting point is 00:01:37 alright so let's do Xbox we're going to say Xbox so I always go to my chat GBT Xbox I always do 01 through 05
Starting point is 00:01:53 Xbox Disk Code Boot Process I forget what the chip is in the xboxes so again we're doing the o1 through the o5 so you don't get confused with xbox one that's why i always lead with that all right so disc i know i think it said it goes spins at five times so the decks the media you insert the disc you can do a game discs dvd movies or audio cd but we also know what the 01 through 05 xbox in order to play dvds you have to have that little adapter and then the
Starting point is 00:02:35 remote you can't just throw a dvd in there it's based on disc format and metadata encoded in the disc lead-in area. So digital signature verification. All these have some sort of a digital, has a unique digital signature. This is located on a hidden sector on the disc called the Xbox Disc Signature Zone. So PS1 was the wobble zone, and Dreamcast was another name for it. The signature is verified by the Xbox and the BIOS. The signature ensures it's a genuine disc. But we know how many mods have been made for the Xbox. Probably more than any of them I think. Hard and soft mods. If the signature is valid, then it goes
Starting point is 00:03:26 to a bootloader. The Xbox BIOS reads default.xbe default.xbe Xbox executable file. So I know on the Xbox One is a system that you have to put on it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You can't just throw any hard drive in there if you want to replace it. You've got to set up a computer and put an Xbox One system on a different hard drive. Same with Xbox 360, although I've never done an Xbox 360. I have a drive that needs one, a new system on a 360. I just haven't done it yet. So then it goes to the kernel handoff. Kernel would be like the operating system derived from Windows 2000 so there we go so I didn't know that Windows 2000 was on 0105 Xbox it's
Starting point is 00:04:16 derived from it so it's not the exact thing codes and assets are loaded into memory anti-piracy measures unique signature new unique signatures fed on our ideas mod chips and BIOS modification are typically required to bypass error handling so you know when you get an error code if you don't have a disk drive attached you get that error code or if you don't have a hard drive attached and we know that the hard drive has to match the motherboard unlike the Xbox one and 360 where the disk drive board matches the motherboard that's a big difference and then talks about the
Starting point is 00:04:58 DVD so there was Thompson Phillips Samsung but there's also data storage and Phillips has two different kind of disk drives inside of them Samsung has two different kinds of disk drives that can be a B or F and then data storage so it's actually they only show you only shows three but there's actually like five different disk drives inside the oh one through oh5 original Xbox. Big difference. And Thomson's like the worst.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It never reads. Samsung's are terrible because they never opened. And then the Philips are really good. And data's the best. Data storage. Philips, there's one of the two boards inside. If something happens to that board, it'll make your Xbox act like it's not
Starting point is 00:05:46 working it won't turn on so it's very important disk drives i've done lots of things about those disk drives so there's five total all right so that gives me a quick process of that let's look at the game library All right, so let's see what the game library is here for it should be significant The game library the original Xbox so That was the the graphs are getting better. They were still pretty awkward. Launched titles, 2001. Halo.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Ah, so there's always something going on here. So, Halo Project, Gotham Racing, Dead or Alive 3. Oh, Oddworld, Munchie, that was pretty cool. Oddsie, I like that one. Notable titles, Halo, Fable. That was pretty cool. Oddsie. I like that one. Notable titles. Halo. Fable. Fable was cool. Ninja. Forzan.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Motorsports. Crimson Tide. Crimson Skies. Elder 3. Moron. Morrowind. It was a console exclusive. Elder Scrolls is still around. Splinter Cell series, Star Wars, Night of the Old Republic.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Classic, and the second one is even better. I have a couple copies of those, one of each. Doom 3, Burnout series. Xbox Live is one. They started doing live then. But I still can't imagine using an original Xbox 0105 to play something live. It had to have been really awkward back then. I don't remember ever trying it. Mecha Assault.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Rainbow Six. Counter-Strike. Backwards compatibility. With the release of Xbox 360, many Xbox games were made backwards compatible, so you could play them on Xbox 360. Psychonauts. Hidden Gems. The Chronicle of Riddick. Escape from Butcher Bay. A cinematic action game. I'm never a big fan of the Riddick, but I know there was an Xbox game called Beyond Good and Evil. A classic cult action adventure.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I don't know about that one. So, number of games. The original had over 900 titles. A library spanned all the different the different kinds some games were region with total is only available in Japan Europe or North America legacy I'm gonna check on this one here I want to look at Chronicles of Riddick so I like to cross reference if I see something catches my eye let's look let's get the ebay here let's see if we can find some rare ones too oh did i tell you about what happened my the buyer this morning so aggravated about that
Starting point is 00:08:53 uh he i i was doing a cross reference on a podcast the other day about sega cds and one of the rare ones that chat GPT my buddy Zippy had told me about I cross-referenced over to eBay and I found it fairly cheap much cheaper than they were selling so I bought it so I was like oh cool I'll get this I'll get nice little bonus well two days later this morning he canceled the order but the worst part about is is he canceled it as buyer asked to cancel i certainly did not ask to cancel that order so i'm kind of really aggravated about that so if you're going to do it do it man up and do it the correct way you should let me know first that you're going to
Starting point is 00:09:37 do it and do it as um out of stock or damaged because then that goes against your account if you do it as a buyer asked to do it then it doesn't go against your account as if i asked him but i didn't ask him so that's what i mean by manning up doing it the correct way but he didn't so i may it may be my first bad feedback that i've given in a very long time i normally always just always give five full stars no matter what but i'm so aggravated that he uh flipped it on me probably realized it was worth more after i bought it and then decided to cancel it and then in the worst part like i said he didn't contact me at all so that makes it not cool all right so let's look oh i want to look at this one that rick
Starting point is 00:10:23 some cross reference in the chronicles of Riddick escape from Butcher Bay I have the thing too that's pretty cool and I went and got the remake I should know but it's alright it's a little bit hope I just did so the thing was a remake on ps5 so a little bit better, but... The Chronicles of Escape. So $16. Not really worth much. Chronicles are really...
Starting point is 00:10:51 I wonder what it plays like. Escape. You can get it on PC, too. Five discs on PC. That's pretty cool. DVD bonus. So... It's been a DVD bonus so I it's been a long time since I've actually
Starting point is 00:11:09 sat down and played a PS I mean a 01, 05 Xbox game I mean I could but I normally don't how the ever do I play any retro games although I talk about them and I sell a lot of stuff for them, I don't really
Starting point is 00:11:25 do it. Play them once in a while. I did get the thing as a remaster. It's, again, okay. I tend to play something like one or twice and then that's it. And I probably won't go back to it for a while.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Beyond Good and Evil, PS4. Anniversary run. $84. Video games. So I'm looking at Beyond Good and Evil. So, limited anniversary run. Beyond Good and Evil. $12 on
Starting point is 00:12:03 PS2. So it's on PS2. Beyond Good and Evil. $12 on... Oh, that's just a PS2. So it was on PS2, Beyond Good and Evil. I hardly ever played any PS2 games. Xbox One has it, Beyond Good and Evil. As the anniversary as well. Interesting. But after this last cancellation,
Starting point is 00:12:28 I'm not going to pick new things to purchase. Although I do have my three Sega games that I got from another cross-reference. They're all reproductions. And right now, I haven't been able to find my power cord to turn my Genesis on so I can try them. I'll do a video of it soon. All right, so let's go to rare rare xbox games and this is where it usually gets me into trouble because if i see something that like oh i never had that but i won't buy anything so the bolts oh uh the best games ever for my favorite two horror games is Ties That Bind.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, what's it called? There's two of them. The Ties That Bind was the second one. I can't think of it right now. They're really creepy and you're in a mental institute. Oh, what's it called? I can't think of it. Those are my favorite two.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Those are really, really scary games. There's two of them. So let's see. Limited print exclusive games. Steel Baton. I've never heard of that. Teen Titans. Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Operation Genesis. That's the name of the game. Uncommon exclusive. Spike Out. Metal Wolf Chaos. Japanese Shooter. Outrun 2006. Late Gen Games.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Def Jam. Fight for New York. Stubs. Zombie and Rebel without a pulse. A quirky game that you play as a zombie. Choose your premise and charm. Pay the collector's item.
Starting point is 00:14:10 That's weird. Actually, we're going to look at that one now. I'll cross-reference that one. Stubs the zombie in Rebel without a pulse. Oh, yeah. I can see. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I just messed up here copy let's check this one out paste i often say copy and paste because that's all i do is copy paste so stubs the zombie without a rebel so you play you play as a zombie which is cool. Oh, you can get that on Nintendo Switch, too. It's a Thorac game. They have a lot of good games like Control and all that. Oh, it's on Xbox One, too.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So you can use stubs. And PS4 has it, too. Interesting. Never heard of that until right now. That's why I do this, because sometimes I'll pick up something I've never heard of. I'm not buying anything else now. Some region games from Japan. I can't say the
Starting point is 00:15:13 name. Castle of something something. And then Modern Military Tactics. Halo. I was never a real Halo fan. Fable, The Lost Chapters. Special Edition. Fable 2 is the best one. Fable, The Lost Chapters. Special edition. Fable 2 was the best one. Fable 3 was terrible.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And Fable 1, I really don't remember that one. And I think there's a new Fable coming out, actually. I think. Promotional discs. More Halo. Xbox. Oddities. Xbox Live. Arcade. Sneak King from Burger King. Xbox. Oddities. Xbox Live.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Arcade. Sneak King from Burger King. Huh. Expensive. Original. Makes it fun collectors. We're going to matter. See, for me, once you get into after PS1s, there's really no, I don't think there's any
Starting point is 00:16:02 really collectibles. I don't think of like PS2 that many collectibles. However, we'll do a PS2 right now. Because it's pretty much the same thing. So there's really nothing that, like I said, there's nothing really standing out saying, oh, this was worth, you know, like the Star Wars, both the Star Wars ones, and then the ties that bind. I can't think of any other.
Starting point is 00:16:24 The Suffering. The Suffering 1 and then the Suffering 2 then the ties that bind I can't think of the name the suffering the suffering one and then the suffering two the ties that bind those are a little bit harder to get they're worth a little bit more but they're pretty they're pretty freaky
Starting point is 00:16:32 it's actually probably better than Resident Evil or Silent Hill back then the second one's really really freaky it's all it's all like psychedelic and
Starting point is 00:16:43 I suggest it. If you like to play older horror games, get The Suffering. It's pretty cool. And the second one too. Alright, so what... Let's see. Let's look at PS2. Disc
Starting point is 00:17:00 Code Process. So we did Xbox. We'll do PS2. disk code process. So we did Xbox. We'll do PS2. So as I said, after PS1 I don't really consider that many PS2 games collectible or real expensive. Except for
Starting point is 00:17:17 I have Red Rose and Hunter Ground, which I never knew existed. And there's one other one. Kundo. I have one of each of those but I didn't get originals I got copies and those were all really really expensive
Starting point is 00:17:31 to get Hunting Grounds I do have the Japan version which was a lot cheaper and normally it plays in
Starting point is 00:17:40 English anyway so a lot of times you can do that you get the like Parasite Eve 1 and 2 you get the Japan version they So a lot of times you can do that. You get the Parasite E1 and 2. You get the Japan version. They're a lot cheaper. But you have to have a PS.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You have to have a Japan PS1 or PS2. Alright, so let's see what's going on with these. So, Playstation 1 game, video DVD, audio, CDd all and ps2 so it was backwards compatible very important there uh reading the lead in area there was a lead in
Starting point is 00:18:16 area of the disc containing metadata that identifies the disc type region uh it searches the boot sector that contains essential information, region code, file system type, licensing and validation data. PS2 uses MagicGate, a private encrypted technology to authenticate the disk. Disk includes hidden sectors containing encrypted data. The sections pressed to the disk during manufacture cannot be replicated.
Starting point is 00:18:53 You can't replicate the impression with a CDR or DVR. BIOS and system ROM verification checks for everything to be region code. Mismatch results. Please insert
Starting point is 00:19:10 disk error. You get disk error if it's the wrong region. PS2. After PS2, everything else is region free. PS3, PS4. It's just PS1, PS2. GameCube. But N64, you can put US
Starting point is 00:19:27 or Japan games in the N64 motherboard. You just pull the cartridge slot out. So, let's see then. There's a boot sector on the PS2 called ELF. ELF. Executable and linkable format
Starting point is 00:19:44 for the main game. DVD, it would initiate the DVD software. So for the PS2, you didn't need to have any sort of adapter like the original Xbox, 01 through 05. You just put the DVD in, you just play DVD. You're like a DVD player. After loading the ELF, control is passed to the kernel kernels
Starting point is 00:20:06 like the operating system initiates environment loads the game game of software execution DVD streams anti-piracy these walls this one also had the back port we could put a hard drive and then with the 5000 model if you had the fat one there was an internet connector but again i don't know how good that what must have been back then magic 8 is what it's called and ensures that things are not burned hidden data bypassing the boot process modifications mod chips bypassing magic gate swapping disks you start a disk and you throw a different disk in once the other one starts why would you already have the disk why would you want to put a the same one of one that's a copy
Starting point is 00:20:55 i don't get that part exploiting software vulnerability free macbook which i have uh i have the hard drive. In the back. Pretty fun. This is the game library. This has got to be the most game library. PS4 is probably a lot too. Let's see. It's legendary.
Starting point is 00:21:21 In a vast collection. It's got to be 4,000 titles. That's what I figured. I knew. So of every one I've done so far, this is by far the most. Iconic, God of War, Shadow of Colossus, Devil May Cry, Jack and Daxter,
Starting point is 00:21:40 Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Dark Cloud 1 and 2.. Sly Cooper. Kingdom Hearts. Final Fantasy. Dark Cloud 1 and 2. I actually have those. Or I did. I don't think I have any more. Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Resident Evil 4. Silent Hill 2, 3, and 4. The Room. I have all those on the Sega CD. Rule of Rose. That's the rare one. A rare controversial survival game
Starting point is 00:22:06 never really tried to play it yet but I have it's a copy copy you can't get Rule of Rose in Japan any cheaper Boulder's Gate Buzz Online
Starting point is 00:22:21 so they had playing online of Socom Final Fantasy, the first MMORPG on console. Twisted Metal. And then backwards
Starting point is 00:22:34 compatible could play 1,500 additional titles. So rare games again. So there's the three, right? The main three that I have. It's still spitting out information on me. Rule of Rose. I'm going to have to pull. I got them right over here too.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So Rare and Valuable Games. Rule of Rose. K-U-O-N. Hard to find horror game. Hunting Ground. A spiritual successor to Clock Tower. I didn't know that. Clock Tower is another cool one.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So those main three for horror, I have a copy of each one of those. And they work. Late-gen releases. God of War 2. Final Fantasy. Yeah, another Final Fantasy. X3.
Starting point is 00:23:24 What's that? 10 on 12. I call it Final Fantasy if they have like 20 of them. What's that? 10 on 12. I call it Final Fantasy if they have like 20 of them. That's pretty weird. I like the one where you can go fishing. One of the newer ones that came out. So that's really PS2. Which is $4,000.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Compared to the Xbox. And then so tomorrow I will go on to do some more Nintendo stuff tomorrow. Yeah, we'll look at Nintendo tomorrow. Alright, so you guys have a good afternoon and I will talk to you later.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Alright, bye.

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