Gooday Gaming Guests - Philps CD-I and Amiga 32CD Game Boot Process

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

There were Zelda and Mario Games on the CD-I....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, so I got a later system to do today, but we're going to get going. Which is the Philips CDI, Compact Disc Interactive. Had a unique boot process. Different from traditional gaming consoles due to its multimedia focus. And CD based operating system. So here's how it worked. There's a few different makes and models of those two. PowerZone, CDI hardware, again another Motorola
Starting point is 00:00:31 68000 based CPU and disk drive. The BIOS and boot RAM, CDI also had a built in BIOS. Also called the CD-RTOS. Compact Disk Real-Time Operating System. So that's interesting. Something new I learned.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Stored in ROM. This firmware provides low-level hardware control and loads the system software. It checks the CD-ROM disk in the drive. The CD-ROM disk in the drive. The CD-ROM file system check checks for CD files in the CDI format, which is a CDI-ROM XA, Standard Architecture,
Starting point is 00:01:26 and a primary volume descriptor in CDI application directory. Validation of the CDI boot sector, which is IPL, initial program loader. The disk is a valid title and it executes the game code loading the CDI operating systems which is CD dash CT I mean a dash RT OS its own version and then it goes to the new software kernel the game at main executable file reads with the 6800 CPU most of these games are full motion video language is used so uses assembly written C with assembly for optimization Philips prepared Development tools games had to fall strict CDI Hardware Hit a click there CDI rom extender architecture I lost where I was.
Starting point is 00:02:46 It utilizes a CDI hardware called MCD212 video processor and CD-ROM subsystem. Most games were stored in the CD-ROM XA format.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Meaning the game logic, audio, and full motion video synchronies were encoded in a structured way. Games often included an interpreter to handle interactive consequences and full motion video. YCDI games often failed to boot. Bad sectors, the BIOS RTOS mismatch. Required a newer CD-RTOS version.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Scratches on the disk. CD-i emulators and debugging. Emulators like CD-i emulator with BIOS files. IDA Pro or G Hydra can help just assemble this 6800 base code what was the game game library so we'll take a look at the game library here so it's heavy full motion video educational, trivia, interactive movies and multimedia titles, so there's approximately
Starting point is 00:04:22 200 to 250 titles for the CD-i. Big fan. Legend of the Zelda CD-i's. I have those, but I have copies of them. Really, really expensive to try to find them. Link, The Faces of Evil, 1993. Zelda,
Starting point is 00:04:39 Wand of Galgalan. It's the only time Link actually speaks. He's really silly. And then Zelda's Adventure. Infamous for clunky controls, bad image, and odd voice acting. Yeah, it was really silly. I have a... Oh, and there's the Mario theme.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Hotel Mario. I have that copy. So, and I bought those. I got a copy of those from that seller, which was awesome. Then I have an original copy of the Wand of Galgalon, but it doesn't work. Well, it does up until it starts to play. Burn Cycle. Cyberpunk, full motion video adventure game.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Seven Guests. I have that on PC. Other CD-i games. Mix. Peck. Panic. The Apprentice. A rare well-made platform.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Lucky Luke. Dragon. Of course, Dragon Lair is on everything. Space Aces is another one. Oh, they actually had the Joy of Sex. Adult-oriented education title. who actually had the Joy of Sex adult oriented education title I know there's Interactive
Starting point is 00:05:49 Encyclopedia Who Shot Johnny Rocket Mad Dog McGee International Tennis and Thunder in Paradise starring Hulk Hogan a full action game. Unreleased titles
Starting point is 00:06:06 or prototypes. Mario Takes America would have been a live action scrapped to the budget. Super Mario's Wacky Worlds was cancelled. Never finished, but early prototypes do exist. The Lost Ride and
Starting point is 00:06:21 Atlantis The Last Resort, Unfinished First Person Shooter. Legacy of the CDI system is best known for bad Zelda and Mario games. Homebrew elements exist out there. Interesting. alright so let's go on we'll go on to the oh let's go on to some rare
Starting point is 00:06:54 rare games rare and expensive Zelda of course but it's a silly it's not like the original Zelda Lucky Luke for bad controls The Apprentice
Starting point is 00:07:16 CDI Apprentice the last this is a prototype for the Atlantis. The last resort. Super Mario. There's a copy out there for a few hundred bucks. The Lost Ride. Hotel Mario.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Seven guests. Burn Cycle. Something Garden. burn cycle something garden let's see what else we got here all right so let's go i'm going to cross reference a couple games here what do we want to see if this super rock super and we'll try atlantis the last resort see if we can find that Let's see what that one is. Atlantis to Last Resort. Phillips. Atlantis to Last Resort. They have one in the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:08:46 $70. not too bad $39 so there's a few of those around and then what was the other one let's see where else
Starting point is 00:08:54 the other one let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see
Starting point is 00:08:56 let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see
Starting point is 00:08:56 let's see let's see let's see let's see let's see what the other one is. It's Super Wacky. Tomorrow's Super Wacky World. super wacky world oh there's a rare prototype burnt so say it's a couple out can find the CDI the apprentice CDI is what I want
Starting point is 00:10:10 the apprentice $163 that one is a little bit more $70 demonstration disc $43 the apprentice so there's lots of those games there so let's see $43. The Apprentice. So there's lots of those games there. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Alright, so. Let's see where we're at here. Let's go on to. Amiga. Amiga. Amiga 32 CD. Game. Boot. Amiga 32 CD game boot process. So Amiga 32 came out in 1993. We didn't have it here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It's Commodore-based Amiga. I have an Amiga 500 too. Which is pretty cool. It uses Amiga OS based system. Powered on. So that uses a Motorola 68EC02O CPU. Chipset had 2 MB fast RAM and chip RAM let's see what else had kick start RAM version 3.1 or version 3.0 the ROM was the Amiga OS cd32 bootloader has a CD file support system support a CD32 splash screen I had one of those that's a really cool system, real expensive too
Starting point is 00:11:53 the system checks the CD validates it bootloading verifies it's the correct disk I noticed my chat GPT has gotten a little bit brighter adding more things to its answers CD 32 file structure to boot the game you must go through the ISO 966 file system called a rockerage extensions boot information Called a Rockridge Extensions. Boot information. Amiga has an AGA graphics chip.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And a AKIKO chip compatibility. Troublesome. Yeah, it's definitely something that adds a little bit more character to its answers. Process versus a standard American Amiga, rather. Standard Amiga uses a floppy disk which I have running Workbench 32 runs directly from the CD-ROM big difference
Starting point is 00:12:51 I had an Amiga 500 it was real expensive there's would you like to do burn CD32 compact disks or run 32 Amiga emulator so I can run an emulator I want to go to the game library of course Compact discs. Or run through to. Amiga emulator. So I can run an emulator. Now I want to go to the game library.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Of course. Library. Let's see how many games are on there. 170 titles. Official titles. With several unreleased and homebrewed games. Many of the games were. Ported. From the Amiga 12000. unreleased and homebrewed games. Many of the games were ported from the Amiga 12000.
Starting point is 00:13:29 The CD had a strong selection here. Shooters. Alien Breed, Tower Assault, Banshee, Brian the Lion, that's a cool thing,
Starting point is 00:13:44 Zool 2. Racing was... Microism. Lotus Trilogy. Adventure. Beneath the Steel Sky. I have that for... And then you've got to get PS5 Beyond the Steel Sky.
Starting point is 00:14:01 It's a point and click kind of game. But it's really fun. Simon the Sorcerer. Hilarious Lucas style game. Let's look at those in a minute. Super Stardust. Chaos Engine.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Full Motion Video. Defender of the Crowd 2. Rare and expensive ones. Dangerous Streets. Yeah, I'll go get them. Alright, so I had to bring my buddy in here. Alright, so Dangerous Streets.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Terrible game, but rare. A-K-I-R Beavers. Castlevania. Unofficial, but rare unreleased prototype games for the 32 a k are a full motion video canceled but leaked let's see if we can find out honey babe you know the system anymore those of the ones I wanted to get it to know what it was all about.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I have lots of videos of it. And then I sold it. Just recently. To a local guy. Alright, so I didn't say anything about that one. It's Sensible Soccer Prototype Overkill and Lunar. a local guy all right so i didn't see anything about that one sensible soccer prototype overkill and loner so this is cd32 homebrewed and fan made releases so you can get some made amiga cd32
Starting point is 00:15:40 to sc collection so those ones i like a lot of different ones. I want to play through emulators. It gives me emulators that you can get through. Win UAE. Best for Amiga 32 emulators. F-S-U-A-E
Starting point is 00:16:00 Great for Linux. Mr. F-, Burn IOS or CD-ROM to play on real console. Alright, so let's see those. How many Amiga systems are there? So we'll go off track a little bit. Are there? I know I have an Amiga 32 I had, and I have a medium 500. Amiga, Comac, Media, Amiga. All right, so. Which.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So the original one is the Amiga 1000 in 1985. First computer, custom chips. Amiga 500, which is the most popular. I have one of those. Lowest cost. Original chipset. Kickstart 1-2, 1-3. I've got a whole bunch of classic games for it, too always want to get an amiga 2000 was expansion expandable professional desktop
Starting point is 00:17:12 it was amiga 3000 high-end workstation faster 68030 Then there was an Amiga CDTV. First CD based Amiga. Runs OS 1.3. Flopped due to lack of software and high price. Then there's Amiga 1200. The last great Amiga. It had advanced graphic architecture, IDE hard drive support,
Starting point is 00:17:50 and bases of the CD32 system. That came out in 1992. 1993 was your Amiga 32. Two megabytes of RAM. So then there was also Amiga 4000 high-end desktop true Commodore Amiga workstation powerful was 68020 2 megabytes
Starting point is 00:18:30 256 RAM upgradable I think I upgraded it first ever 32-bit CD based console in Europe was the Amiga killed Killed off early due to Commodore went into bankruptcy in 1994. So let's look at that one. Amiga,
Starting point is 00:18:50 what did I say that was? Let's see how much that was. Amiga 4000. They were really expensive. Let's do a quick little crush reference
Starting point is 00:18:58 here. Amiga 4000. Oh, that's just a disc I was going to say in a way oh okay so Amiga 4000 okay so Amiga 4000 I just missed it
Starting point is 00:19:36 let me do that again Amiga 4000 they're really hard to find you probably have to you would have to get it from Europe if you can find one. Lots of accessories for it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Cards and all that stuff. All the fun stuff. There's one for $4,000. There you go. Not happening. That's why I never got a lot of cards you can get for them. But i got plenty of old vintage computers down anymore because i can't afford to get any more all right so that's kind of
Starting point is 00:20:12 only a level four thousand dollars uh 128 gigabyte solid state drive and it recapped so it's got lots of cool stuff to go with it all right so that's my two systems today i'll have to work on something for tomorrow we'll figure what that'll be It's got lots of cool stuff to go with it. All right, so that's my two systems today. I'll have to work on something for tomorrow. We'll figure out what that'll be. Well, you guys have a good night, and I'll talk to you later. All right, bye.

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