Gooday Gaming Guests - PS4 and Xbox One Game Boot Process

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

PS4 has almost 4000 games with 60 exclusives. Xbox One has about 3000 with 17 exclusives. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, so today I'm going to do PS4 and then I've got to come up with ideas. I know I have Xbox One to do yet, PS5 for like the game codes and getting the game library and stuff like that. But then after that I'm going to have to really dig deep to figure out how can I do more episodes that are gaming related. Maybe like go into how each controller works per system or something like that we'll figure it out but i or i really don't want to double back to something i already did if anybody's watched any of my i mean listened to any of my episodes here so we'll have to really dig deep maybe we'll go
Starting point is 00:00:38 i'd like to make it about 20 minutes long and i like to use my buddy Zippy here on chat GPT although I've noticed today or the day since yesterday that there's a lot more highlighting going on with with my buddy and there's a lot more detail maybe trying to keep up with that new deep seek I think it's called I've yet to try that but all right so we're gonna do a ps4 i call it game code boot process but it's just basically how the game's running doesn't really give me any codes or anything but all right so the ps4 uses a system on chip soc which includes this gpu and cpu there's a low low level boot rom um read only memory within the CSOC is triggered performing basic hardware checks so this is where the southbridge chip initializes
Starting point is 00:01:33 components like USB Bluetooth and storage devices I believe that's the issue with the blue light of death the flashing blue light the southbridge trip pretty sure I'm not positive okay I got a lots of ps4s the original blue light the south bridge trip pretty sure I'm not positive okay I got a lots of ps4s the original 101 and the very dreaded 1115 a that one always is flashing blue lights you can't even use a double washer fix on that one you can do this sometimes on the 1001 a so the boot processor has a boot loader contained in the system. NOR flash memory is verified. The kernel, which we've learned the kernel is basically the operating system.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Part of the Orbis OS, Sony's modified free BSD OS, is loaded and executed. Operating system called the Orbis OS initializes once the kernel is loaded initialized memory system drivers network stacks in and out devices such as controllers HDMI port the OS list system processes including the XMB cross media bar UI. The game launches. The game is on a Blu-ray disc. It verifies the authenticity of it. If it's digital, it looks for the license. The system ensures the game is properly installed, has the right license, game code execution after verification ps4 loads the game execute file elf the GPU which is an AMD Radeon GCN architect and the CPU was an x86 64 AMD Jaguar cores work together to render and execute game logic. The game's runtime environment initializes physics engine AI processing. So there's a little bit of AI in there.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Input handling for controls network conductivity. Running and performance optimizations. The background dynamic resources background. Dynamic frequent scaling power management so basically doing more of the actual boot up of the ps4 but we'll get some games near to in a minute now suspend and resume if needed can put goes into a rest mood game termination when the game is closed closed the system memory is freed, CPU returned to idle. The OS cleans up processes
Starting point is 00:04:07 and returns to home. Alright, so that's kind of how the game Let's see. What kind Let's do game library. Game library. let's do game library, library, game library,
Starting point is 00:04:31 PS4's got to be huge, it's got to be over 2,000, 3,000, so, let's see, physical games, so maybe you remember, now we're slightly getting to PS4, I don't know if PS3 had digital games, but it started at digital games, but it was mostly still
Starting point is 00:04:48 on CD. I only use digital games now. Because I used to be able to go and trade them in a physical game, but you really can't do that anymore. We don't even have a GameStop. Ours closed. So it's kind of a gamble. If you get
Starting point is 00:05:03 something, it didn't really. so the game libraries yes let's see the game library physical games, digital games there was also the plus which I just tried for the first time ever PS Now Games, Game Archives.
Starting point is 00:05:28 The library is managed by the Orbis OS. PS4 library development, the OS development kit. Graphics renders, networking. PS4 SDK is properly meaning to load and license. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The
Starting point is 00:05:48 games. The amount of PS4 games to date. Because they're still making PS4 games. Correct. You can get some of the newer games
Starting point is 00:06:06 um, as of January 30th. Um, let's see if we're referred to Wikipedia. Additionally, games push the screen. Huh. That's kind of, didn't even give me a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:22 My lippy's not doing good here. It says discover post for Vassar. me a thing my little Zippy's not doing good here says it's good posts for Vassar how many additionally new games so how many I'm like trying to do it on what metal ones usually just spits out like a number how many it I suppose. No, it's just not giving me a list. That's really weird. That's the first time I've had that happen.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Well, because it's basically newer stuff. So checking on PS4 CDs. Game code really didn't really give me much except for the boot. Well, let's try this. Let's try... How's try uh about japan japan ps4 games so those are they're not uh region locked that i'm aware of
Starting point is 00:07:15 because you can get like evil within from the japan version which is has better better stuff on it Japan role-playing games Japan game developer platforms actually show me no other things acting weird today it's not really answering my questions today I'm not sure usually just gives me spits out all kinds of information that related to what'm doing, but he's not really doing that today. My buddy Zippy here is having an off day, I guess. I'm not sure. Alright, so let's go on to
Starting point is 00:07:54 Rare PS4 games. Let's see what happens now. Normally I would have posted vastly. It just keeps repeating the same thing. Something's up. Oh, it just gives me a couple of them. The Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm starting to get more details and some videos, which I've never seen before. Godzilla. Dark Souls 3. Poop Slinger. Limited physical release of 84 copies. Made it to the rarest PS4 game.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Poop Slinger. That's pretty funny. Alright, so that's my new game to put on. Poop Slinger. Don't even make 84 games? How's that possible? Poop Slinger. Don't they make 84 games? How's that possible? Poopslinger. 88 Arcadia is another game
Starting point is 00:08:49 I never heard of. Poopslinger. Oh, there it is. Poopslinger, $1,900. $2,300. Whoa. Death Park. Arcadia, 88.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Rare game. Poopslinger, $10,000. Wow. Death Park Arcadia 88 rare game Poopslinger $10,000 wow so that's going to be one of the biggest games I never thought there would be any games at PS4 Dark Park is another one, Death Park I'm sorry, PS4
Starting point is 00:09:19 but Poopslinger $5,000 wow, so it's the rarest game, so that's pretty, something I didn't know, Poopslinger by far, Godzilla, Rare Games, so, Poopslinger, hold on one second we'll go on to we'll go on to xbox one now all right so let's go on to xbox one and see if my zippy's still acting weird not sure let's go on to xbox one um game code boot process yeah after I get done with this I'm gonna concentrate on one specific thing and talk about it if I can get it to get more details boot process so we're going to so the
Starting point is 00:10:20 structure of Xbox one it's a completely different animal than that of PS4. So if you want to swap a hard drive or even a motherboard, on a PS4 it's a basic quick swap. You can do anything. But when it comes to Xbox One, you have to put a system on it. It's a whole different complete thing. PS4 and PS3 is basically the same. Go to safe mode and you have to download the firmware and it's pretty easy. So power on initializing system on chip.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Boot is the same. It also has a Southbridge chip. Bootloader uses a n nad flash memory hyper vision a low-level system component and the operating system is a customized version of Windows 10 on Xbox one so the other one was a different version this Orbis I think you know was of Xbox. PlayStation 4 was Orbis. This is an operating system like Windows 10. Host OS is a Hyper-V layer. Manages systems and security.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Guest OS. Game OS and UI OS. Runs games and data interface. Game Launch and DRM digital write management checks the Blu-ray for verification. Digital games checks for the Xbox license.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Of course we don't know that. That all gets just jumped apart. I believe you can get a PS4 with all kinds of games. Maybe like 200 games, but it has a lot of terabytes that comes with it. CPU is an x86-64 AMD Jaguar. GPU is an AMD Radeon GCN architecture. So they're on the same input handling controller connect.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Dynamic resource management xbox one dynamic uh allocate source system resources game os background uh system balances memory and usage faster load of times uh Suspend or resume games. Game termination. When the game ends, the OS, the GPU and CPU go into idle state. Summary. There's securities, hypervision, and DRM verification. Performance is multi-OS visualization. Seamless transition. So, try this one again what what is a game library and see what it gives me came refers or collection of games typical game libraries
Starting point is 00:13:26 no I don't huh as soon as I got into the newer stuff it kind of threw me to a different direction
Starting point is 00:13:32 let's do it's giving me it's giving me game library for all different stuff usually it stays on track I don't have to really explain myself. But today, for some reason, I drew it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And it's talking PC, talking all that. And you can't, like, interrupt it, like, break it in the middle of its spiel as it's spitting out stuff. You know what I mean? If I didn't like something, I should be able to hit escape and get it to stop spieling out. And now I see colors, too.
Starting point is 00:14:03 There wasn't colors before before so there's some highlighting colors now here on chat gpt which is new since i've been doing it uh so how much how many let's try it again with you how many xbox one games are there see try to see what we get now I have an eight issue today there we go so now I get currently there's two thousand nine hundred,929 games available for the platform. That's what I was looking for for my PS4. How many games for PS4? So for 2,000, I couldn't get him to answer that question. No $2,000,
Starting point is 00:15:05 I couldn't get him to answer that question. No? $3,000. Oh, here we go. Alright, so now he's saying he's... So 3,470 games. So PS4 by far, of all systems, is well...
Starting point is 00:15:21 And they're still making games, pretty much. And digital. And then we're about $3,000 for Xbox One. And each one, how many exclusive? well and they're still making games pretty much in digital and then we're about 3 000 for xbox one and each one how many exclusive how many how many xbox one exclusive game exclusive games you know like um gear Metal Gear, not Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War, stuff like that. So.
Starting point is 00:15:55 There are 17 current categories as Xbox One only titles. Alright. How many PS4 exclusive games 60 currently so you can see the difference between ps4 so i always would rather have the ps4 or now ps5 than a xbox one or an xbox never really had an xbox 360 or how they ever think i ever really played
Starting point is 00:16:33 xbox 360 games ps4 yeah by far the most and of course if it was a sony title uh i played it not necessarily i played about long but all right so that's xbox one so let's go to Sony title. I've played it. Not necessarily I've played it that long. Alright, so that's Xbox One. So let's go to find something besides that poop slinger. I think that's awesome. Let's see if we can find if there's anything for Xbox.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So, Rare Xbox One games. Let's see if it's got something fun like that one. I would have never heard of Poopslinger otherwise until now. Rock Band in a Bundle. Sea of Thieves.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Amazing Spider-Man. Nothing. I don't see anything of her. Assassin Creed. Special Dawn't see anything of her. Assassin Creed. Special Dawn of the Creed Legacy Edition. It's... I don't know. They made like a million Assassin Creeds.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't understand it. There's so many different kinds. And I never understood all that Assassin Creed thing. And I think there's more coming out. Alright, so let's see. Dawn of the Creed. So, Legacy Edition. $325 with no game.
Starting point is 00:17:58 $650. $725. $500 that's on PS4 though so it could be an Xbox One or PS4 collectors are only good as if they're not open once something's open Call of Duty Black Ops 3 Juggernaut
Starting point is 00:18:23 Edition so these are like bundles Call of Duty Black Ops 3 Juggernaut Edition. So these are like bundles. Let's see what that one is. $2,500 for Juggernaut Xbox One. I think it's in the system though. It's like with the system. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:18:43 $2,797 for PS4. juggernaut 1200 so yeah so that definitely makes that rare by far juggernaut that was never a war i don't want nothing to do with war and definitely want to play it um yeah so that one's pretty pretty expensive there brand new all right so that's some ps xbox one ps4 and then we'll go on to ps5 and you can't really say the thing the thing with xbox is the series x and series s is not a step up to me at all from like a ps4 to a ps5 so i really found i was still waiting for although i think it's gonna be called the what is xbox prime i believe that's the name for the next one so we'll finally get a new edition because all the series x and series s is just an upgrade
Starting point is 00:19:36 right i can't say tell me about you know series x or series s as I can about ps5 because it's they're not it's it's doesn't it's not there's no jump there not different games the same games they may only play on series X or series s but I don't want to see that it's everything about the those are Xbox the same but well i'm excited to see the new series the xbox uh prime and of course ps6 which i believe is only another year away 2027 ps5 is going to be a very short run i think because uh technology changed really quickly upgraded therefore made almost makes ps5 obsolete already um all right so we'll go here and then maybe I'll go on and just do some handhelds.
Starting point is 00:20:27 See how some of the old handhelds worked. I may do that. Start out with some of the Nintendo Game Boys and stuff like that. See if we can get some sort of a run up of how they run
Starting point is 00:20:39 and the cartridges. And then we'll come up with some ideas. Try to keep it fresh every day if I can juggernaut edition playstation 4 works 680 dollars all right so i'm gonna end that on poop slinger i'll put that as my uh little little uh image today all right you guys have a great day and we'll see you in the morning all right bye

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