Gooday Gaming Guests - Sony PS3 Slim and Super Slim

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Each has a Few Makes and Models with Different Parts Inside. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So today I'm going to do PS3 Slims and Super Slims. So the Slims have a few different models. First you've got the 2001A and then the 2101A. And those have disc drive boards that need to match the motherboard. And then there's the 2501A which doesn't have a drive board. And the power supplies in all three of them are basically the same. You can use any power supply on those. And then after that we go to also on the 2001A and the 2101A the drive, the disk drive is similar.
Starting point is 00:00:49 When you get to the 2501A the drive is different. It's similar to the next model which is a 3000 model and that has similar disk drive in it, no drive board but that has a different power supply in it that power supply has two pins on it so it won't fit onto the 2000 model and then within those three models there's a few different drive boards in them
Starting point is 00:01:21 and I know that the 2101Aa the front power button is similar to the 2501a the 2001a power button is its own then 3000 models have a black power button it's a little bit different there and then you go on to the Super Slims, which is the 4000 models. So the 4001A. And then I think there was like a 421001A. And then one other. So there's like three different models of the Super Slim.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And then the last motherboard of the Super Slim was the t-rex or the rex-001 again same with those to any maker model of the super slim you can use the same power supply however there are some board models that the disk drive has a wider cable than other boards so you can't just swap every disk drive i can't remember which is which there's a thinner one and like a darker wider cable the drive looks very similar and yet you can't put one on the other because it won't fit on the board for the 3000 i mean for the 3000, I mean for the 4000 Super Slim. Super Slim being the last model, but it had that silly slide door, which is kind of, just the whole case itself was really flimsy. So they break the cases.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That slide door mechanics breaks very, very easy. But you can play PS3 games on any of them. I guess they're basically all the same, just newer technology, newer design. Like I said, the Super Slim is pretty fun, but it's just really, really flimsy. And the PS3 Slim itself, those are pretty fun. Those usually can be a power supply problem, although most of them are just like a PS3 Slim itself, those are pretty fun. Those usually can be a power supply problem. Although most of them are just like a PS3 Fat where they go on and right off. But they weren't prone to do it as much. Because the Fat's usually overheated all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So it can ruin the motherboards. PS3 Slims, not so bad. Disc drive is usually a problem issue with disc drives and those. And then the Super Slims are usually pretty problem. Issue with disc drives and those. And then the super slims are usually pretty good. It's just more the mechanics of the door breaking. And just it being a flimsy case in general. That caused them.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So let me get my little buddy in here. We'll see what other kind of fun information I can come up with. Let's see what. I like to bring him in. Bring the zippy zippy is my AI buddy hello good we're doing ps3 slims Nice. Working on anything specific with the PS3 Slims today? Just wanted to go over different makes and models. Sure thing. The PS3 Slim has a few different models, each with its own specs and features. The main ones are the CECH-2000, CECH-200, CECH-200, and CECH-250 series. The 2000 series was the first slim model known for its smaller size and reduced power consumption compared to the original PS3. The 2100 series
Starting point is 00:04:58 made minor changes like a quieter fan and a slightly lighter build. The 2500 series further improved energy efficiency and added a few more hardware tweaks. Then there was a 3000 model. Exactly the CECH 3000 series came after the 2500 model. It featured an even slimmer design and further reductions in power consumption Sony also made some changes to the internal components making it harder to hack the 3000 series also introduced a matte finish on the console giving it a different look compared to the glossy finish of earlier models. The disk drives are similar on the 2501A and the 3000 models. No drive board. That's right. Both the CECH-200-51A and the CECH-3000 models of the PS3 Slim
Starting point is 00:06:04 use a similar disk drive setup without a separate drive board. Instead, the drive controller is integrated directly into the motherboard. This design change simplified the internals and reduced manufacturing costs. It's a notable point for anyone working with or repairing these models. The power supplies in the 3000 models can't be used on the 2000 models. It has two pins in it. Correct. The power supplies for the CECH 3000 series have a different design compared to those
Starting point is 00:06:40 for the 2000 series. The 3000 series power supply has an extra two pin connector, making it incompatible with the 2000 models. This is an important detail to remember when working on these consoles, as using the wrong power supply can cause damage. There are also different front power buttons for the original 2000 model compared to the 21001. Yes, that's another difference. The front power buttons on the original 2000 series are slightly different from those on the 2100 models. The 2000 series has physical power and eject buttons, while the 2100 series introduced capacitive touch buttons.
Starting point is 00:07:28 This change gave the console a sleeker look and reduced the number of moving parts, which can wear out over time. And then the 3000 model, the power button was black and even smaller. The board. Exactly. power button was black and even smaller the board exactly in the 3000 series the power button is even more streamlined it's a small black capacitive touch button which blends in with the console's overall design this change not only gives the ps3 slim a sleek appearance, but also reduces the chances of mechanical failure since there are no moving parts in the button mechanism. And the disk drives are known to fail on all of them, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yes, disk drive failures are a common issue across all PS3 Slim models. Problems can include discs not reading, slow load times, or the drive not accepting discs at all. These issues are often due to wearing tear on the laser or mechanical components. Replacing the laser or the entire drive can often fix the problem. Disc drives in general just have so many moving parts that bound to fail. Absolutely. The complexity of disk drives with their numerous moving parts like the laser assembly is why disk drive issues are a common problem in many gaming consoles and other devices. Now we're on to the Super Slim. The PS3 Super Slim CECH-4000 series is the final model of the PS3 line. It has an even smaller and lighter design than the previous Slim models with a distinctive sliding disc cover instead of a motorized slot loading drive.
Starting point is 00:09:39 This change reduces the number of moving parts in the disc mechanism, which can help with durability. The Super Slim models also continued the trend of lower power consumption and quieter operation. The disc drives were, there's two different kinds in those, the earlier 4000s to the later 4000 motherboards. That's correct. In the PS3 Super Slim models, there are two different types of disc drives. The early 4000 series models typically have a manual sliding cover for the disc tray, which you have to open and close yourself. Later 4000 series models feature an electronic sliding mechanism, which is still different from the slot-loading drives of earlier PS3 models, but offers a bit more convenience than the manual version. I'm not aware of any PS Super Slim that has an electronic slide. They're all manual. My apologies for the confusion. You're right. All PS3 Super Slims have a manual sliding disc cover.
Starting point is 00:10:49 This design is part of what makes them more durable, as it reduces the number of electronic components that can fail. Thanks for the clarification. Actually, the sliding disc, that door is really flimsy and breaks often. It was a really bad design. You're right. The sliding disc cover on the PS3 Super Slim is known for being quite flimsy. It can easily break or come off its tracks, which is definitely a downside to the design. This has been a common complaint among users as it feels less sturdy compared to the more robust slot loading drives of earlier models. The case itself is just
Starting point is 00:11:34 really flimsy. It breaks real easy. That's true. The PS3 Super Slim's casing is made of lighter and thinner materials, which makes it more prone to damage. The top-loading disc cover... I'm just talking to things.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I'm talking to my thing over here. Yeah. Yeah. And then... I'm trying to think what we're doing. Oh, so the disc drive has two different ones with two different cables. Got it.
Starting point is 00:12:06 In the PS3 Super Slim, the disk drives do have variations, particularly in the cables used. Some models use a single flat ribbon cable, while others have two cables, one for data and one for power. This difference can affect compatibility if you're swapping parts between different super slim models now there's always there's just two there's just one disk drive they're almost identical except for the center cable thanks for clarifying you're right in the ps Super Slim, there's just one type of disk drive, but it comes with two different versions of the center cable. This cable variation can make them look almost identical, but they're not interchangeable without the correct cable. It's a subtle yet important distinction when working on these consoles.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Depends on the motherboard. The last motherboard was REX-001. That's right. The compatibility of the disk drive's center cable in the PS3 Super Slim is dependent on the specific motherboard model. The REX-000 is one of the later motherboards used in the Super Slim models. Depending on the version, the center cable can vary, so it's crucial to match the correct cable with the specific motherboard model when replacing or repairing parts. How many different boards are in the Super Slim? In the PS3 Super Slim CECH4000 series, there are a few different motherboard revisions. The main ones include 1.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Super X-001, one of the first motherboards used in the Super Slim models. 2. The Shakes Dash 001, a later revision with some minor changes. 3. The Saab 0001, the final and most advanced motherboard revision in the Super Slim series. Each of these motherboard revisions comes with slight differences in components and layout, which can affect compatibility with other parts, like the disk drive cables. How many motherboards in the Slim PS3? For the PS3, including both the original FAT models and the Slim models, there are several motherboard revisions. Focusing on the PS3 Slim models, CECH2000 and CECH200 series, here are some of the main motherboard versions. 1. DIA-001, found in some of the earliest PS3 Slim models.
Starting point is 00:15:10 2. Another version used in early Slim units. 3. SUR-001, a common revision found in many PS3 Slim models. 4. CATA-001, a later revision with some changes in components and layout. These revisions vary in terms of power consumption, heat generation, and compatibility with certain components. Yeah, I'm trying to think in the... Take your time. The last board model, the Super Slim, only has one Wi-Fi cable, as opposed to the other ones are all two. That's correct. The final motherboard revision for the PS3 Super Slim, which is the REX-000, indeed has only one Wi-Fi antenna cable.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Previous Super Slim models typically had two Wi-Fi antenna cables. This change was likely made to simplify the internal design and reduce manufacturing costs. Despite having only one antenna, still offers reliable Wi-Fi connectivity. What's the best one for modding of those? When it comes to modding, the PS3 Super Slim models are generally less favored compared to the original FAT models and the earlier Slim models. This is due to the Super Slim's more complex security measures and hardware changes that make modding more challenging however if you're looking specifically at the super slim
Starting point is 00:16:54 models the earlier revisions like the sux 101 or sab 101 might be slightly easier to work with for modding, as they have more in common with the earlier slim models. The REX-001, being the final revision, has the most updated security measures, making it more difficult to mod. And the early slim models? For the early PS3 slim models, the CECH2000 series is often considered the best for modding. These models are more similar to the original fat PS3s in terms of internal architecture, making them more compatible with custom firmware, CFW, and other modding options. Within the CECH 2000
Starting point is 00:17:47 series, the DIA-001 motherboards are popular choices for modding. They offer a good balance between performance for modding? The CECH 2500 series PS3 Slim models are a bit more challenging to mod compared to the 2000 series. The 2500 models have updated security measures, making them less compatible with custom firmware right out of the box. However, certain 2500 models can still be modded, particularly those with firmware version 3.55 or lower. These units offer a balance between the ease of modding found in the
Starting point is 00:18:46 2000 series and the improved hardware reliability of the later slim models the cat a 001 motherboard in the 2500 series is particularly sought after for modding But that 355 firmware that's that that's's the key all across any PS3? Yes. Firmware version 3.55 is the key for modding on any PS3 model. This version is particularly important because it's the last firmware that allows for the installation of custom firmware, CFW, without requiring hardware modifications. Once a PS3 is on or downgraded to 3.55, it can be easily modified to run CFW,
Starting point is 00:19:37 enabling various homebrew applications, backups, and other modifications. Later firmware versions patched these exploits, making them more difficult to mod. It's hard to downgrade, correct? Yes. Downgrading a PS3's firmware can be challenging, especially if it's already on a version higher than 3.55. To downgrade, you typically need a hardware flasher, like the E3 Flasher 2.0, which allows you to write an earlier firmware version onto the console's NOR or NAND chip. This process is complex and carries the risk of bricking the console if not done correctly.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Additionally, not all PS3 models can be downgraded to 3.55, so it's essential to check the specific model and its compatibility before attempting a downgrade. Great, thank you very much. Alright, so that's some interesting stuff we learned about the PS3 Slim and Super Slim and some modding I haven't done much modding yet but I'm gonna in the future plan to do a lot more modding
Starting point is 00:20:54 well it's gonna get a lot easier with AI now you'll be able to plug something in AI will go in and do the modding for you so things will change significantly alright so that's my system for the day i'll just talk to you guys later

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