Gooday Gaming Guests - The Many Sony PS2 PHAT MotherBoards with Boot Up Process

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

The Japan has a 10000, 15000 and 18000 with a Back PC Card

Alright so for the Christmas afternoon hopefully everybody got the good gifts they wanted to get and all the other fun stuff that goes along with the tradition of Christmas. So today I'm going to do my boot process. We're going to do PS2. So lots of we're going to do PS2 fats. There's lots of motherboard models in those so I'm eager to see how the original ones. So the first three original are 10 bottom screw. And those either are the 004, the 005, which is similar but different. And then the 006 is also 10 bottom screw. Each one of those has what i call the double stack motherboard um so i'm interested to see

how those boot and then we'll go into the rest of them after that so let's do ps2 fat 004 motherboard boot the 006 has like a daughter board to it. The 004 and 005 do not. Let's see if we get, see how we do here. The 004 mother first, the early revision of the original PlayStation 2. Okay.

So we should have a little bit more technology now compared to the boots we've been doing. I find it fun, actually. I've learned a lot of stuff. Just different CPUs and stuff like that that I didn't know anything about. All right, so PS2 Fat 004 Motherboard, referred to the early revision, had some distinct hardware characteristics below as the boot process. So this chip was called an EE, an Emotion Engine CPU.

I heard that this chip was also on the Hubble Space Station. And then I just read, I was reading yesterday about the PS2 chip being used for something, for computing. So it boots to ROM BIOS. The BIOS is a firmware embedded in the PS2 that initializes the hardware. Okay, so there's a hardware test, self-test, post. CPU motion engine graphics synthesizer GS RAM input output processor if any of the critical boots fail you get an error ROM verification the boot verifies that the integrity of the DV drive firmware disk check in boot priority it boots from the memory card slot. Looks for bootable applications. Homebrew like FreeMac boot but that would be later. DVD looks for a hard disk.

In the console with the hard disk expansion the BIOS checks the hard drive for bootable software i actually have the free boot on a hard disk in the back of a ps2 fat pretty fun ps2 system menu region lock check bios checks for north america japan or pal kernel and game execution loads PlayStation 2 kernel. Is that the word kernel refers to? It's more programming. Hands over the control to the game execution code. Key components of the PS2 model 4 is the EE motion engine. Operates at 294 megahertz on the early PS2 models. Graphic synthesizer responsible for rendering visuals

ipo io processor iop manages input output disk drive ram early ram on was features 32 megabytes of rram ram bus dynamic ram double stack design there it is still features the double stack design which letter which was later replaced with a a single uh power supply is integrated internally the slims had the external fast did not backwards compatibility of a ps1 backwards reliable models like the ps4, known for disk drive issues. Freeboot optional homebrew includes those with $4,000 can boot software like Freeboot with a memory card. Bypassing region lock. Summary of boot step-ups.

Power on bootable media check. Region lock. Kernel initializationization game and software launch the PS4 was represented early was the 005 motherboard any different. So we'll go for 004 and 005. They both have the rope cable. Where the 006 has a ribbon cable but longer than on the other models after it. 005 was an incremental version of 004.

Same boot process process identical RAM everything is identical I'll just kind of blow through it just difference between 004 and 005 005 motherboard often shipped with updated optical drive and lens assembly so the system itself with 005 had had to try to solve the read issues. Same double stack. Some of the discrete components were replaced with caps and resistors. Formal difference, some 005 may have a minor firmware update. Because there's no way to

update firmware as like when you get to a ps3 no changes performance okay so it gives me the breakdown between 004 and 005 laser assembly prone to errors improved RD RAM standard 32 005 more efficient on RAM modules so the RAM is a little bit better motherboard design double stack simplified double stack so firmware was an early BIOS was a slightly newer BIOS reliability better over reliability okay this is then the 006 motherboard it's good if i already know them all then i can now i'm just getting details i must have had ps2s oh my god i had to have like a thousand of them over the last few years and there's also one ps2 fat we're going to ask him about. My buddy Zippy here.

Usually the Japan and US models are always the same, everything, except for one model on PS2 Fats. It's the 15,000 model of the Japan. Instead of a hard drive in the back, it has a PC card, which I've never seen. So that's the only one that's good. And it's also 10 bottom screw, yet it's not double stacked all right so the ps2 fat uh oh six might represent another step in evolution compared to the 004 process here's how that differs from the other chains because remember this this has a a um a daughter board to it the 06 but still considered in the 10 bottom screw realm

was the first the first big three here so the emotions hardware CPU GPU RAM BIOS execution GS 32 RAM memory card region lock cause I'm trying to see what the difference is. Single stack mother design, double stack design removed. So I thought, I thought that would be, oh no it was single but it had the single layer design but it had a daughter board to it of some kind that I've reduced likelihood of disk errors try to fix the disk drive problem which really never got fixed oh six retains 32 megabytes RD RAM more efficient configurations are used for better stability but same performance Backwards compatibility Including The 006 motherboard retains backwards compatibility

With PS1 games And peripherals Includes a SCPH-102H1 Hard drive expansion For use with games like Final Fantasy Improved optical Homebrewing mod Free McBoot fantasy so dealings at hard drive backs improved optical home brewing mod free McBoot so the double stack single layer so now gives me all three comparisons

oh four or five oh six it's like the RAM went up a little bit per each one for more updates was a little bit more backwards compatibility excellent maintain the same boot process this is says the o6 had a daughter board no six had a daughter board You're absolutely right includes adorable, which is a distinct feature Compared to the earlier versions of the fat Like we're gonna outsmart my buddies at be here All these to add something to it

It's pretty fun. Oh Yeah, so it had breaks... breaks down the daughterboard, the boot process. The cable, the long ribbon cable, power cable goes to the daughterboard and then cables from the daughterboard run to the motherboard.

Self check. So everything's pretty much the same. It's an I.O. function. Handles, inputs, outputs, checks. check so everything's pretty much the same let's see it's an i o function handles input outputs checks the key role the daughter board was the disk drive controller it was the disk driver try and then the disk drive connected to that daughter board so it helped management of the disk drive advantage of daughterboard design when you control is related responsibility separate so improve the reliability of the console allows to experiment different configurations compared for double stack move the

separate daughter board for the DV Drive repairable easier to remove the drawer of a daughter board is not taking those things by even completely taken apart optimize the single layer design motherboard and juice door okay so now we'll go to the PS2 010 and 013 motherboards so that would be the board with the multicolored

cables to the disk drive okay the 010 and 013 cables to the disk drive. Okay, the 010 and 013 later revisions. I believe it's before the 015. After the 010 and the 013, those are very similar. You can use either or. Then from there, it changes to 0 1 0 0 1 9 and 0 2 2 which can be interchangeable but these two here have different disk

drives and stuff so let's see fully integrated design both owner fully integrated single board design. 010 some issues with disk refinements for the disk error issue. Updated BIOS. Changes improved. These updates not only experience removal of certain components, such

as a hard drive expansion port. That's what we've been doing. The 010 motherboard, single layer I'm the 010 motherboard single both single layer 0 1 3 0 1 0 1 3 is better obviously power efficiency was more efficient in the 0 1 3 minor updates back to cloud ability meeting the same performance of earlier motion engines back availability reliability homebrewing mcboot so then you look at the 006 compared to the 0100 and three improved just it's like a stepping stone up whereas a lot of like i was doing sega yesterday and everything was a step down

people got worse and worse they were. They were getting cheaper and cheaper. So here they're actually going the right way. The final early FAT hardware. The same brute process. Okay, so then now we go from... Then we go to the PS2 FAT. 015. 019, and 022 boot process. So now we've just, and then the model numbers of those are like 39001,

3001R, but the R can also be the 010 or 013 or it can be an 015 alright so fat models 015 019 and 022 later revisions the boot process remain the same just amazing I can just type anything in and it just

pumps out all this information for me. Outstanding. I can learn stuff so fast now. It's pretty cool. Same thing as emotional engine. Console had power on self-test. RAM's the same. Graphic synthesizer.

RD RAM. Same thing. memory card, drive, hard drive, if installed, game system and load manual. So nothing, you wouldn't see this difference if you would have bought one of the other, only if you went inside.

And if you look at my buddy Zippy here, to learn how it's, there is some differences reduced heat output Supplier it bit a little bit better power supply so the oh one oh one five oh Oh two two also the oh one. Oh and the oh one three All of the power supply with the components facing down

When you take the bottom off at the back the bottom next one we're gonna do is 5000 model and that has a components facing at you and that will be the last revision minor of BIOS updates 015 representing continuum of design introduced from the 013. So the 015 was after the 013. The 019 was a little bit better. 015 says lots of issues. 022 is the final revision of the FAT series, but it's not actually. It's actually got the 5000 model yet. Which is 023 and 026.

Can I say everything by the motherboard name? Not by the actual console. Because sometimes the board in there can differ. Like the 3900 model can be a 019 or it could be an 020. The regular 3001 model without 10 bottom screws eight bottom screws usually 015 but sometimes it can be um an 013 an 010 or 013 yeah so repairability was high excellent power supply more efficient okay and then it compares the 0101013 to the other three that we just talked about. More reliable. So they went forward.

I just can't believe how backwards Sega went. Wow. You got crappy stuff at the end there. Okay, now. The last models are 023 and 026. 023 and 026. So you're giving... Oh, now I just gotta...

Lately, when I've been doing my zippy here, it gives me two options, and I have to pick one. Like, do I like this one better than the other one? And I honestly really can't tell the difference. The one on the right always seems to be a little bit better. All right, that would have confused me. Because now I lost my train of thought here. It's really pumping out some stuff on this one. I'm just gonna prefer that one so I can get to me. Because now I lost my train of thought here. It's really pumping out some stuff on this one.

I'm just going to prefer that one so I can get to it. Alright, so... The summary. Oh, that's the summary. I've got to go way back here. Oh, that's way, way too far. I'm just keeping one thread of all my

boots. But eventually I have to delete it because you run out of memory go figure I was daughter board well I did something weird and then I have to try to go back to where I was now because when you ask it a question to give you just all this information instantly and you have to kind of catch up that's all one five we just did that um all right there we go okay fat 023 and 026 mother of the final revisions he said final revisions last time but that was not now it is same across all fat models

the boot boot process ram's the same everything's the same so also with the uh 5 000 model they came with a network card so there's actually a 5001 n i had the card in the the adapter on the back. And also it has the power button, a smaller power button attached to the disk drive on the front. And like I said, the components, if you open it up from the bottom, they're facing you. As of where the 015, the 010 through 019 are facing down. So I'll ask about that in a second region lock so everything is the same integrated single board improved disk drive I'll ask about the slash and to better components so you obviously for any system except for sega definitely you would want to get the last of the

last model usually so 023 026 more reliable drives final bios for fat series repeatability was high motion backwards compatibility so everything is pretty much okay so what's slash n so let's go let's do slash n 5000 slash N. Yeah, so the 5000 slash N. Didn't quite do what I wanted it to do. Basically just added a... I should have said 50011 I did back so it although let's ask about vision peaches oh yeah well that's the other it also had a built-in IR receiver so you could use a remote on the slash end that was the other thing that's right whereas all the other thing. That's right.

Whereas all the other ones you needed. The dongle. To plug that in. And then you plugged your. Remote whatever it was. But the slash N had the RR. So the. Yeah.

That's what. I thought all the 5000s had that IR, but it's just a slash N. Built-in. They had a DVD player version 3.0 in that, too. And then, finally, let's ask about improved quiet, fully supported it with adapter improved laser Japan like a 004 005 but single board let's see what it says

alright Playstation 15000 early version is an interesting version it bridges the gap between the first PS2 versions, like 00405. That one's cool.

I want to find out about that PC card. It's 15 single layer. So none of these changed any specific hardware.-bore design that's way down there I just move a little bit and I lose it I heard it's always single here's the breakdown of that. Everything's the same. Biolock. It has a Japanese Biolock.

I've got a couple of those. They're pretty fun. I haven't got one to fully work yet. I've got some cool Japan games. So when in doubt, if it's a really high-end game, you can't find it, PS1, PS2,

buy the Japan version. It's basically the same. It plays in English most of the time. And it's a really high-end game, you can't find it, PS1, PS2, buy the Japan version. It's basically the same. It plays in English most of the time. And it's a lot cheaper, so just get yourself a... That's why you have to have yourself a Japan PS1, PS2. Once you get into PS3, then there's no region, I don't believe. Just a PS1, PS2. Same with earlier Wii's.

Wii's, you can get that. Gamecube N64 remember N64 was just an N64 you can play either Japan or

you know US games on an N64 motherboard just take the cartridge slot out just a blocker little blocker there alright it says lax refinements

later models 0 oh six oh new power supplies optical what is the pc card what is a pc card Compared to the hard drive on the back. Let's see what it says. What is the PC card compared to the hard drive on the back? So it's the only one that has that PC card thingy. It's called a PCMCI slot. Found primarily..., oh there's actually a few models that have it.

Found primarily on the Japanese PS2 10,000, 15,000, 18,000 model. It was designed to connect external storage devices and adapters to expansion ports similar to a hard drive.

So it's called the PCMCIA slot. Network adapter for connecting storage devices. Why was it replaced? The PC interface was phased out in the late 80s, starting with the 3000 model in favor of the more hard drive. It was slower. The PCMCIA standard was slower and less reliable for sustained data.

PS2 better trade networks are more robust. Hard drive bay purpose is to text expansion. But you can't just stick a hard drive and just save games to that. I didn't know that. Hard drive is only for certain games. And for

that adapter adapter PlayStation BB broadband network and the ps2 adapter so the PS card was only in a few of the Japan early ones the slower homebrew was limited game support was minimal so that's pretty cool all right I think it's about it all right so that's my fun little boot up today you got to learn about all the different motherboards of the ps2 fat I believe I covered them all took me a long time to learn all that stuff and then now I can learn a little bit more from just typing in a few things here. But learning by doing is the way to do it.

And I put myself through at-home gaming school here for about seven years. Playing around with lots of stuff. And that's how I learned about all these. PS2 took me a long time to learn about. There's so many different variations. And I still have missed a few different thingies but all right so you guys have the rest of a good christmas and then we'll we'll all be talking about the new year all right i'll talk to you later all right bye