Grass Daddies Podcast - [Bonus] Grass Daddies Podcast Episode 15: Ranking Scary Movies

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Happy Halloween everyone! This extra upload is no trick, It's a treat on this episode of the Grass Daddies Podcast as Ben joins Jake once again; this time to rank their top 5 scary movies! Follow us on Social Media! Youtube: grassdaddiespodcast Instagram: @grassdaddiespodcast @kamdenwellmann @jakekillham Tik Tok: @kandenwellmann (yes that's how it's spelled) @jakekillham11

The moment the movie ended, I got up from the couch and just went, that was scary. Welcome to the Purdue minus one podcast. I told you I'm going to be saying that for a while. Back by popular request by no one is Ben. He was just on a couple episodes ago filling in for Cam. This is not a normal scheduled episode. This is a bonus episode, a little Halloween treat, if you will. And you came to

me with this idea that we would take each other's, well, we'll have to explain a little bit, but basically we both picked seven movies each and we're ranking them. Um, and, uh, as the kids were saying, I didn't understand the assignment. Um, so his list is his top five movies that he would recommend to someone to watch. As in, if someone were to say, Hey, I want to watch a scary movie. What do you recommend? That's your criteria. Yep. Five and two honorable mentions. Correct. yep five and two honorable mentions correct my list i guess i wasn't listening very well

is based on i guess favorite slash emotional decision personal preference there was some emotional decision in some of these because some of them i wouldn't there's's probably other movies that I would say, oh, if you haven't seen that, you definitely should, even if it's not in my top five. So, we each have five, plus two, seven Little movie posters here. I have his. And he has mine. And I think the way we're going to do it is we'll each first say what spot we think the other person's seven are in. Then we'll say how many the other person has right. Okay.

And give the option to switch. Like maybe if we're like're like oh this could be a two this could be a three then if you're like you have three right oh i think i'll move that one then after we move them we're not going to say which ones and we'll take turns going from our two bottom ones up okay yep and we'll slowly reveal how many they actually have right perfect love it so you want to go first do you want me to go first um or i guess we can take turns no because i'm gonna need to look at them i feel like i'm gonna need to kind of lay them out here and look.

Because, and this is going to be a little bit difficult because I don't know, like, if I liked it, it doesn't mean you like it. Right, you have to rank it how you think I would rank it. So if you watch these seven movies, and you would say, I think Ben would, right off the bat, recommend this one top overall and down. And then there's two that we added to our list to kind of throw off the pace otherwise it's like well that's definitely a number one yeah that's definitely number two yeah this kind of throws in like was he sentimental was he five when he watched this the first time and it still scares him i know because there's a couple old like like, The Mist is like a 2007-er. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. And we were talking a little bit about this one before we recorded. We didn't say much, but. Nightmare on Elm Street, for those listening. 2010, Nightmare on Elm Street remake. I didn't really love it. And you're like, really?

And I'm like, uh-oh. Does that mean it's going to be high on your list? I don't know. It was surprising. But you were falling asleep, right? During it, you were having trouble staying awake during Nightmare on Elm Street. Yeah, which is kind of funny because the whole point is you're trying not to fall asleep. But I was tired, and I'm like, I basically had homework needing to watch these.

Because I've been so busy with work i'm like i had to schedule out when i could watch some of these but yeah well and i didn't re-watch all of them the ones i'd seen before you didn't i just didn't have time but i've seen them enough okay it was a game time decision what one was that or two i did not re-watch hereditary i've seen hereditary enough times okay i didn't re-watch don't breathe but i remember that one really well okay and insidious i love all the insidious movies i was going back and forth on whether or not i wanted to add that to my list too but yeah if we're talking about list stealing the last exorcism on my list would be sixth. Really? Yeah.

So you were thinking about having that one? I was thinking about it, but I was like, if it's an honorable mention, that'll be really a kick in the drawers because it could be a top five. Okay. And then when you sent it to me, I was like, yeah, that makes sense. So why don't you start with what you think would be my honorable mention? I think the mist qualifies for a good honorable mention one. And this may be cheating, but you said you can thank Andrew for that, which makes me think that this is something that he showed you when you were a little younger. 2007, you wouldn't be that young.

But this makes me think fifth grade yeah are we sticking these up as we go yep and then moving them around yep this makes me think that this is one you saw when you were young and it's got some nostalgic value for you let's see how well these stick oh yeah um so i think that's your first honorable mention okay the next one that's got to be top five that's got to be top five that one could go either way this one you made sound like it was in your top five hmm now i watched devil inside last night, and I liked it. I thought it was good.

How about you think about it? I can't take forever here. Yeah, you think about it. Let me do an honorable mention. Okay. Okay. Yep, go for it. I think a definite honorable mention for you is Freddy vs. Jason.

Okay. It's somewhat predictable. It's old. You probably watched it as a kid, and it scared you. You wouldn't believe. You were wet in the bed. That's crazy. I'm going to put this one

by reasoning of bedwetting. Freddie versus Jason, the first honorable mention. Okay. For the camera. Even though this is a podcast. What? There's video elements for podcasts all the time. I know. I'm just saying. Now we've got to get

seven. So I think camera might might we'll be good all right i gotta pull the trigger on something here and we're gonna say how many we have right so this may be where i move some around okay i'm gonna go with i think devil okay devil inside i would probably put it if it was if i had to choose those i would With, I think Devil Inside. I would probably put it, if I had to choose those, I would probably put this in the top five. But I'm going to put this as the other honorable mention. I'm actually going to put it down here. And then we'll go.

Five going up. Okay. Second honorable mention, Devil Inside. And as we're going, we'll talk about the movies a little bit more you said this is going to be 30 minutes it's going to be way longer than 30 minutes i'll tell you that right now it's a bonus episode yeah yeah we're to celebrate halloween yeah when i when i heard you say that someone you know laughed when laughed during a scary movie. I was like, how disrespectful. That is unreal to me.

First, I love lists. Second, as you can tell, I love lists. Scary movies are a vibe. You got to get into them. You got to totally immerse yourself. What would I do in this situation yeah and a lot of the old ones you're like that was really dumb and then something happens to you you break down on the side of the road you start walking you're like well you know what this is what happens i am that dumb

i'm in there so my second honorable mention i, I think, is Jeepers Creepers. I think this is just like Freddy and Jason. I think it's a sentimental one that you've seen a lot, but the rest, you have a stacked deck left. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to reveal anything, but those two movies kind of stand out a little bit from the rest of the other five. Yeah, I just, I feel like that's going to honorable mention. Jeepers Creepers. All right, now let's get into the top fives here. Now, this is not my top five.

This is your top five. So I think Don't Breathe is, like I said, I've seen it. I've seen it once. Really? Did you see it in theaters? Nope. I didn't see it right when it came out either. I saw it after the fact. It's a good movie.

It's got a good twist um couple there's a few a couple twists in there kind of uh it's got one one one big twist one major twist but it's hard to um check out of when you try when you're watching it's definitely a suspenseful yeah you're you're on the edge of your seat the whole trying to figure out what's going on with them while the plot is simple the story is not it's yeah i mean it's uh i'm trying to describe the niche genre of it it's kind of just like a a get out kind of movie you know i don't know escape the situation you're in yeah stuck in a house escape escape horror i guess would be what you call it but compared to these other ones um i think that is a good solid five spot um because i don't think

that i don't feel like that one's as well known as, as these other compared to these other ones. I don't know if that one's as well known, but definitely not. So that's why I think it's number five. It could be an honorable mention for all I fucking know, but I already put those up. So that one's going there. All right. For your number five, I'm going with as above. So below, um, I, I'm now looking at the last ones i have and i'm i'm ordering them

based on you almost have to do it on a personal bias yeah because i it's a great movie but you had to re-watch all of these. I re-watched all seven. All seven you gave me, I watched them, and I watched five of mine. So you prepared better than I did. So as above, so below, I'm putting as your number five. But this one is the first one switched, I think. Okay. Once you hear your numbers.

Once I hear my numbers, if I'm off, I'm guessing it's because of this one. Because this could very easily be a top two. Could be. Have we watched a scary movie together? Quick side note.

I'm sure we have. In high school, Elijah and I would get on a pirated uh movie website together fun and we would we would google hangout do you know what google hangout is yeah so it's like skype or yeah or zoom zoom before zoom zoom before zoom so we'd google hangout and we'd both be on the pirated site, and then we would start a movie at the same time and watch it in different locations. And one of those movies was this one that we watched.

Yeah. Pirated. Pirate? That makes it even more scary. Because you're just waiting for the cops to come in. Yeah, federal crime. Okay. In terms of quality, I think compared to the other one,

because I'm only putting this one higher based on your reasoning alone. Because this probably wouldn't be the list for me. I mean, I'll be honest. Yeah. I'll give my reasoning. I'll give my reasoning later once we get into it insidious now the thing about insidious that i love is that all of these movies are pg-13 meaning they don't rely on language gore nudity or nudity, you know, any kind of that shock value. They have to purely rely on good scares. Yeah.

And the audience. Scene development in order to make it a scary good movie. And this movie kicked off the series. Did. What, 2009? I don't know. It was something like that. Hit.

That sounds about right. Hit right away. Major hit. Yeah. I love all the Insidious movies, but yeah, the first one, OG classic. I'm kind of a sucker for... Stay right over here. I'm kind of a sucker for OG movies, like the originals.

I can tell. Just because fucking Freddy vs. Jason and Jeepers Creepers are on the list. And Halloween. They might be number one. That's what I'm worried about. Your list might be off the rails. By the way, the beer menu tonight for me is... So, I broke my sober October streak only for the halloween party i went to this

weekend but now i'm drinking a butter beer a little halloween uh because harry potter is a halloween movie it's a halloween and a christmas it's really if you think if you watch the right movie from that series you could probably nail any holiday and just really it's just an excuse to watch harry potter because oh it's uh i think you could watch eight harry potter movies in succession from now until christmas probably and cover all your bases yeah so so harry potter drink butter beer out of a little frosty mug ben apparently doesn doesn't like cream soda, so he's drinking a real beer, like a real man, out of his mug. Okay, go ahead. All right.

Your four is The Last Exorcism. Okay. The movie I pirated watched for the first time. Yep. And this, like I said before, like is. So on my phone, I have lists, favorite movies, favorite shows, top shows, top movies, so on and so on. My scary movie list, though, is only five. So if it was longer, this would be six.

That's it's a good movie. It's a we'll talk about once i think what we'll do is when we reveal our list we'll have that person talk about it defend it or yeah okay put their reasoning for it so i'm gonna go ahead and put nightmare on elm street up okay i'm putting it at number three i'm probably got all of these wrong but um i'm going number three i didn't love it we'll talk about it when we get there but it's going at number three for me. 2010. 2010, a remake of... Did you like the original? I haven't even seen any of the...

I know all about it. I've seen so many YouTube videos and kill counts that I basically know all of the necessary lore and whatnot, but I haven't actually watched scene for scene, you know, start to finish all the originals i really want to though and i think that's the next series lena are gonna do lena and i are gonna do because we're doing friday the 13th right now you're just gonna cruise on through october yeah probably okay that's fair probably there was a couple years ago we almost watched a scary movie every day

we almost thought we almost did 31 scary movie every day. We almost did 31. It's pretty sweet. Wow. I'm trying to think if I could watch. Wow. Did you run into some bad ones? Bad scary movies? Maybe. We made a list.

We threw in some like Anaconda and Lake Placid, like the one with the giant alligator. We threw in some of those. But yeah, we made a list and as some came up, we were like, oh, let's watch that too. I promise it's just Butterbeer. I didn't spike it. Year three is Halloween. Halloween, OG, 1978, Halloween. Michael Myers, for those of you living under a rock.

It's an iconic movie. Icon. And if you have this lower than your top three, I'm lost. Okay. So, that's why I'm putting it there because your next two are heavy hitters. Heavy. Heavy hitters. Heavy.

Speaking of, I got to put Hereditary over Get Out. So, Get Out is number two. I like the Nightmare on elm street movies i knew all about this movie but i hadn't actually watched it scene for scene i did watch it great movie i really liked it yeah jordan peele is an amazing director have you seen his movies are bangers. Have you seen Us? I've seen Us. I haven't seen... What's his newest one called? I know it has to do with aliens and stuff. Yeah. By the way, all of this is going to be spoiled.

So if you haven't seen any of these and you want to... Stop watching. Actually, don't. We need the viewers. You already got them. You got the click. That's a view. All right.'re two um

i'm going with mid summer or summer i say summer i'm pretty sure it's summer blame summer not me summer for those that remember um again i'm with you. I just can't justify putting Hereditary anything less than one. Yeah, I mean, we might as well just put them up together. Hereditary, if you haven't seen this movie, oh my god. The first time, Lena Kev asked me, can we watch Hereditary? And I'm like, yeah, we'll get to it at some point. And then when we watched it, the first time I watched it, I had anxiety. You're going to get me too.

So, interesting. We both, the only movie we matched on. Is the same movie that we both have. Yeah. Which is kind of fun. Okay. Let me look at your list and i'll tell you how many you have right and you do the same for me just just how many are right how many how many we have right we'll tell it we'll tell the other person how many we have right. Not which one.

Not which one. Not which one is right. Okay. Alright. So then we'll have the ability to switch. And then the bitch of it is you may move one that you had right into a spot that's now wrong. So. Okay. okay I have the ones you have right

okay I have the ones you have right you have three right I'm afraid it's the top three alright alright you wanna work through it yeah i i told myself this one through it

i told myself this as above so below was my first out so if i'm gonna choose between jeepers creepers and freddie versus jason to switch it out with i'm picking jeepers. I think that's an honorable mention. Just because it's... I don't know. The whole plot is upside down. And that may have been on purpose, but I remember

I watched this in theaters and I left so confused and not scared at all. I had to go, I think. Maybe that's one that you do need to detach yourself from and just watch instead of trying to wrap your head around it. Well, it's just I watched it recently. Still, the random guy that was lost and then found in a tunnel or whatever.

Yeah. You know, he just randomly shows up. There's scenes. What's his name? Tall, lengthy guy. Yeah, I can't remember. Anyways. It's like French for the mole.

I can't remember what they call him, though. There's scenes. He's there. And then he's not there and then he's back okay is that the only one you want to switch i'm afraid if i start getting too wild because theoretically because theoretically that could make you have five right theoretically that could make you have five right now did you put halloween at two i don't know

i don't know what i'm gonna stick with that you're sticking um i mean it's a crapshoot i yeah i mean i feel like i know are we just gonna do one point for each yeah one point for each that you get right that'll work there is i don't have any prizes i have a price it's not here yet but i did get a price is that why you asked me what size my hoodie is yeah or sweatshirt yeah it is? Yeah. Or sweatshirt. Yeah, it's a Spooktober sweatshirt. Ooh. So you want.

Well, I didn't get anything for you. So hopefully I win and I just win the prize. I ordered two Spooktober sweatshirts. If I win, you buy mine. Okay. If you win, I buy yours. Okay. Because I bought two.

Okay. How many did I get right? You got four right. Oh. Because I bought two. Okay. How many did I get right? You got four right. Oh, my God. Four right. Well, that kind of, that kind of, because now I know that I have more right than you. Oh, so you're just going to stand? Well, yeah, because now I know I won, I guess.

I kind of defeated the... That's all right. But now we'll reveal which ones we actually put where. Let me recount really fast. Maybe that wasn't the smart thing to do. You have five right. I have five right? You have five right.

Well, by that reasoning, then I know I've automatically won and I didn't want to switch any. So if you were to switch, you won. So now, okay. So now if I was to switch you only have to switch i well if i have five right um i'm gonna say that's one that's two i don. I mean, because the moment I try moving stuff around, I'm going to convince myself more. How many did I get? You got five.

You now have one right. I'm sorry. You now have two right. Two right. Okay. How did I go from three to two? You had three, and then you switched one that was right to wrong. And there was one that was already wrong.

So you only switched one that was right to now be wrong. Whoops. So I think what we do now is take them down, switch them back, and then I'll stick mine up. In order in your order and you do the same for yours okay if this doesn't seem like this game isn't very structured it's because we're kind of putting it together as we go. We are. But that's what makes it fun. And you know that this isn't a scripted show here. I think I still have one of yours.

All right. Let's do this. You want to start with number one? No, no, no. We got to start from the bottom and work our way to the top. The top dog. So if you can remember what we had here, what we should have done is what order we had ours. Was that one right?

Was that one an honorable mention? That one was an honorable mention. So, well. I remember yours if you remember mine yeah yeah because it would be nice if we could you know have them compared to each other or people can't remember um so you had this one right all the way no way an honorable mention get out no my two honorable mentions you had you nailed i was like that was way too obvious and i even said those ones freddy versus jason and jeepers creepers were both movies that just like you said as i was a kid i saw them and i talked about this on the last podcast i think when I would like see a scary movie on TV,

I like would hide, like I wouldn't want to watch it, but at the same time I couldn't help but watch it. Yeah. I feel like we, we grew up in the same movie sphere. Cause these were both early two thousands. Did you have dish?

No, I just have cable. Okay. Um, but these movies, I remember like talking about with friends. Like I hadn't seen them yet. And then them being described to me.

And then I would watch them and be like, oh, my God. Like this is what, you know, it was. There's these ones are pure nostalgic. Neither one of these are very good movies. But as a kid seeing them as a scary movie for the first time just like you said they're the probably the scariest thing yeah you've seen thus far so that's all you have to compare it to and you watched it after your parents went to bed yeah it's late and yes now because you'd probably get in trouble for watching them now you're just wetting the bed. In terms of nostalgic value, and I didn't really put this one where you can see.

In terms of nostalgic value, Freddy vs. Jason and Jeepers Creepers. Two solid movies. Two solid movies. What is this doing down here? Because if we want to talk about this at all, did I write about your cousin showing it to you? Yeah. I was over at Luke's house.

Okay. And we went to Blockbuster. I was a kid. For those of you that don't know what Blockbuster is, our younger viewers, it's a place you could go that had movies in it and you could say can i watch that movie for a few days and they'd say sure just bring it back for like a dollar yeah which is wild a library for movies yeah essentially um so the mist um luke and i went to blockbuster and we got a couple movies to watch. We were having a little slumber party.

And we got back, and we wanted to watch it downstairs in the media room. Okay. And Andrew was down there watching The Mist, and it had just ended. And he rewinded it, because I'm pretty sure it was on VHS or he just went back to the menu and started it and he's like you guys need to watch this. So we sat there. It was late. Did he watch it again with you?

Nope. He just made you guys watch it. He bounced. Handle this my boys. So we watched that and then we stayed up all night playing kickball in the basement because we were too scared to sleep. That's awesome. As a kid, it might be scary. As an adult, it's not that scary.

It's very sci-fi, and bad CGI creatures are the main scary part. The Mist is one of those movies you just can't quite get yourself to feel out situationally, like personally. It's like I will never see the day that I live in Oregon. My neighbor wants my head. Yeah. For a fucking freaky, freaky, whatever military police guys are whispering in the back and then they kill themselves.

I'm never going to be there. That's not happening. Get out. What is this one doing down here? Um, you know, I'm like, it's solid movie number two. You're like, yeah. Honorable mention. Get Out is actually my fourth best movie overall.

But you really think the other ones need to be recommended to other people before this one? Yeah. Is your reasoning? Yep. Okay. Yep. I think I'm going out on a limb and saying most people have already seen it. So if I'm like, you know, they're like, I want to watch a scary movie tonight.

What's up? Get Out isn't one of the five I'm saying right off the bat. Because they're probably going to be like, I've already seen it. Yeah. And then I have to go back to my list of five that I already made. Okay. So, yeah, that's where we would defer in recommending versus by personal preference. Yep.

Now, you just dropped a bomb by putting Get Out there. An A bomb? I might drop a bomb on you by putting this one at my number five. Okay. I had that at three. Yeah, that's not crazy. But you said that could go higher. I had that at four.

You did? Yeah. The last exorcism, you have it at five. I have it at five. Did you ever see that in theaters? No. Have you seen any of your movies in theaters? No. Have you seen any of your movies in theaters? No.

Okay. I've seen scary movies in theaters. I just haven't seen any of these in theaters. The Gallows? No. All right. I don't go to the movies that often. I got to move on from that.

Yeah, okay. I'm triggering it. You are triggering me. Let's see. One, two, okay. I'm triggering it. You are triggering me. Let's see. One, two, three, four. Four of my seven I've seen in theaters. Maybe, I mean, if I did, maybe that would put them at a different spot on my list. Because that's how movies are meant to be seen.

This one is another one that i have a funny story behind this one a little bit i was told about this one oddly enough by a kid during confirmation at church this is where that's at church during confirmation do i know him um no okay um is who told me about this and he was what i love to do as a kid was have people describe in great detail to me the movie because i was so fascinated but i was scared to watch it so i'd be like just describe the entire movie to me so i can experience it without having to be scared because you're really pointing it to me um not necessarily he i think it was kind of new at the time um and he was just telling me about it and he said his friend was crying in the movie and i was like damn this must

be really fucking scary and he was telling me some of the scary parts about it. Eventually, I finally watched it. It's not the scariest movie, but I don't know. I have two found footage movies on my list, and found footage, I think, is a very scary genre. This is one of them. I agree. Because found footage, if done well, is very, unlike The Mist, very immersive because it feels you're right there it feels the most real because everyone has at least in some point picked up a camera in their life and said

i want to film something so it looks real oh is that what we're doing right now is that what we're doing right now happy halloween something like that all right so my number 5 which you you got correct nailed him was Don't Breathe it just feels like that's a good movie to just

make the list but not go any higher than anything else yep good all around to beat the rest of the list would be hard for that movie like i said i really liked the devil inside yeah but that's good because it's but like in terms of quality this is a better movie but but right maybe not but you'd maybe recommend that before because you'd be like oh you haven't

seen devil inside of course not you of course i've seen get out get out is scarier than the devil inside no okay it's a better quality movie so someone comes up to you and says i'm in the mood for a scary movie you're're hitting them with Get Out before Devil Inside? Okay. No. That's where I'm at. Again, I didn't understand these. Yeah. We'll do better next time. Okay. Is it my turn?

Sure. Well, is there anything else you wanted to say about Don't Breathe? That's just a cat. That's not a demon. Have you seen the second one? No. I haven't seen the second one. It's not worth watching. i'll say okay okay that's okay four that's all i want to say about the first movie is don't watch the second movie number four ah you were thinking about putting this high i was it's just uh in my opinion it's deserving on a spot i i i think i've decided that michael

myers is my favorite killer um over jason i yeah over i do think it's over jason because if you watch those friday the 13th movies he's it's like he's drawn to chaos he's drawn to the sex it's like a boob comes out and he just appears and he's like um he likes to like he'll he'll get fancy with his kills whereas like michael myers is just a straight straight forward straight line psychotic man who's just plunging a knife into someone any chance he gets which to me makes him creepier because he's basically just a psycho person right i mean depending on which there's a million different stories line storylines in that series where he may or may not have like murdered his sister powers and stuff oh that's what he did in the very first the very first movie i was trying to finish your sentence yeah i failed um so how old are you when

you first watched this movie halloween shockingly old i think i watched i think i watched i think i watched halloween 2018 before I watched this. Really? But I decided to go. So I watched Halloween 2018, which probably could have made it on my list. But, um,

after watching that, it kind of got me sparked on the Halloween series more. So I went back and watched the OG and I'm like, this is a solid and i kind of like older movies it's 78 um so i felt that the og was more deserving of a spot than the new one a newer one which i didn't like the new one at all which 2018 is a direct sequel to this movie right now where it gets confusing is like halloween 2 is a direct sequel to this movie but in a different timeline with different directors and it's super jumbled now

yeah it's it's crazy so like this one then the newest three directly follow it 60 years later or whatever so yeah it's at number four it's an og classic i but it's old it's not a perfect movie but i still like it so it's at number four yeah there's just so many iconic parts to that movie the music the mute the score the some of the kills you see him referenced in you know media nowadays i feel like and um if you get into the history of horror movies i think michael might have been the earliest slasher i think texas chainsaw the original might have came out before that but i think michael kind of paved the way for classic slashers because freddy was like more in the 80s yeah jason was in the 80s into the 90s

um way before i was born scream was you know late 90s 2000s but no uh okay i thought i thought you're picking up hereditary to put a number four did i put that at number four you i did you did guess this one correctly so these were three that i had right yeah you just switched get out and we'll get there. Hang on. I'm out of butterbeer. Down to foam. Yeah.

Okay. Number four. Number four insidious obviously did anything I say register with you about it being PG-13 or

why would you recommend it as a number three the jump scares are unlike anything I've ever seen. I mean, if you're looking, if you want your heart rate up and jump scares, this is your movie right here. Because it's so easy to follow, but there's just so much jumping out at you from every side. You're like waiting.

You know, they stop the music, right? The horror music, you know, the plays that you're like getting amped up and then they just go silent. And then they drop it hard when the jump scare happens. Because the score for Insidious, I love that score. Or the music, you know. Tiptoe that um the like you said the concept of it is not hard to follow and it's just good quality i just think they're good quality movies yeah if if we're talking about series this is probably one of the best horror series. There's what, five, six maybe?

I think there's six now. We watched the very newest one, which I think is supposed to be a sequel to that one. Yeah. Yeah. It was okay. It was pretty good. Nothing like that. Yeah, and they knocked it out of the park right away, and they haven't looked back.

I mean, they've been... Solid. They've been solid. Like you said, great jump scares. That is one thing that I would absolutely agree with. Number three, Midsommar. Same director.

Ari Aster. Same director as Hereditary. As it says right there. Well, they can't see that from there. This was another movie. Same thing as Hereditary. When we watched it for the first time, Lena showed me both these movies. Really?

And I'm watching it going, oh my gosh. I had anxiety because it is so psychologically thrilling. Uther made this movie. I hadn't even heard of this movie. Yeah, well, I want to hear about what you thought about it in a second. But the way he gets his actors to portray grief, Hereditary and Midsommar are two movies that are heavy hitters with grief. Hereditary and Midsommar. Are two movies that are heavy hitters with grief. Like to the point where.

If you're going through something in real life. I would recommend you not to watch these. Yeah don't get into them. Because you'll. They'll wreck you emotionally. You will end like these movies end. Hopefully not. Okay what did you.

Tell me what you thought about this. Because I'm curious to see what you thought about this because i'm curious to see what you thought about it um you know if i had watched this without seeing hereditary i would have thought it would have blown my doors off it would have absolutely blown my doors off now unfortunately i have seen hereditary multiple times so it's like you were a little bit more ready they got there i was like oh it's a cult right away now did i see anything else coming not really but because how could you how could you predict anything in that movie. Yeah. I liked it. For a scary movie, I don't know. This is what's interesting about Midsommar. It's very bright. It is bright. It's very well lit.

Most scary movies are dark, dark, dark. I'm out of black ink. They're all black. Midsommar is very light and very colorful. It throws you off because it's a dark movie. It lulls you to sleep and you're like, what? Yeah, I'm watching Wizard of Oz. So many points in this movie I'm going, what is happening? What is happening right now?

Yeah. And if like. Throw in a couple of fake dream sequences and which i think there's only one um along with a grisly i mean there's there's suicide at the beginning intense oh yeah grief i almost forgot about the beginning a lot tragic a lot of a lot of psychedelic um drugs being taken on top of do you think it was psychedelic drugs well they were they were tripping a lot of the time because they took mushrooms at one point but after the mushrooms do you think they were actually tripping or just well they're letting themselves go no

there were points in the movie where they would have them like drink stuff like you remember when she was doing the maypole dance yeah with all those people and they had to drink and she's like this is for for dancing yeah but and i'm saying well it's happening but you think maybe she's placebo i think it's placebo okay i think they i think you sometimes you take a drug and you're like oh i'm gonna get so high and you're not high at all but you're just like well i paid 200 bucks for this i'm gonna act really high well i'm gonna go way over the top and then all your friends are dead and you're like probably shouldn't have got that high yeah been there um because he he leaves quite a bit ambiguous um in the movie like is that what that person actually saw or was thinking it very well could be a concept of her grief is making her think and see all these things that aren't actually happening it's left it's left up to the the

the viewer the viewer to decide what they think they're watching yeah another i really i was sitting there at the end sitting in my my hotel room, and I was like, please do not jump to them getting there. When they first did the mushrooms and they were on the hill, if she would have been smiling there at the end, and then they just jump back in time, right? To them all alive. That's kind of a deep ending. Yeah.

I was like, don't go there go do not go there like do not as if she was just fell asleep in the car and and imagined everything that happened yep as what was gonna happen actually i would have rioted i would have i would have wanted this guy's head i think he's too good of a director to that's like i remember miss jank when we were writing in like english she would say the worst fucking well she didn't say that the worst possible ending you could do for a story is and then i woke up yeah that's like the most cop-out worst ending to any piece of writing you can do it's just be like and then it was all a dream yeah number three but you got right i was nailing you down you were nailing me down

um nightmare maybe i did deserve to win at number three um i let's talk about it. I did not see this in theaters, but I saw it right after. And... In 2010, you would have been middle school. Middle school. It messed me up pretty good. Really? I was afraid of dreaming. I was...

Yeah, it was... I keep... So I got through maybe like half of it had to stop watching really and then like a week later i was like i have to see the end and then couldn't got like halfway turned it off couldn't couldn't go and i know you as an adult, probably didn't quite get there, but I stand behind this as a scary movie, number three, very easily. I would love for you to try to convince me otherwise. I'll just say why it didn't hit very well for me so like i said i haven't seen any of the originals but i've seen enough i've consumed enough of the content from the originals via youtube videos

where in my mind robert england is the og freddy yeah the practical effects of the makeup um to have that be my freddy and then have a cgi freddy by a different actor probably using the stuff on the face for the cgi a completely different voice um a lot of cgi did it make you jump at all? Were you like, Oh, and that's the thing too. I was so, I was, I had to watch this for this episode. So you were, it was late after a day.

Like it was the only time I could watch it. I think I w I watched it Friday. I watched it Friday night. I, I get it. I would like you to go back to it when you have time yeah and try it and give it give it one more shot because i i mean i watched the whole thing i know but get up a couple times because i was trying to fall asleep it is it is slow like that when i re-watched it most

recently i was like god this thing is dragging. It could have been an hour movie very easily, but it was dragging. I think it was a solid 96 minutes. I think it was like an hour and a half-ish movie. Yeah. But, and the plot was a little, I don't know. Touch and go? Yeah, because basically the whole, so the whole was these freddy was attacking all these kids in their dream that's usually how it goes in all the movies there's a group of kids in high

school even though they're actors i thought were in their mid-20s when i was first watching i'm like oh wait they're in high school class oh that girl looks like she's 24 um anyways and then come to find out and and also fred Freddie's a lot more grabby, sexual assaulty. Yeah. Not going to use the R word, sexual assaulty in this movie, um, towards these kids. Yeah. And then they find out.

They could be 18. Yeah. Well, I don't think Freddie cares. Well, when they were younger, cause they have, cause the whole point is that he's wanting them to remember what he did to them. Yeah. Which is very fucked up. And that's how he's tormenting them. And then they're finding out that their parents murdered the guy.

Yep. Burned him because he's. And then they basically go and fight him in the place where he did it to them. And bring him into real life and kill him and yeah yeah i think that's how a lot of the movies go it's that's kind of the basic plot he was like kind of a pedo and then the parents took revenge on him and then um but with other iterations sprinkled throughout um but yeah just knowing you know it's like it's a tough three for you tough to swallow like for instance who was your spider-man was toby mcguire your spider-man i didn't like spider-man i like batman okay hated spider-man okay um who was your who was your Batman? Val Kilmer?

George Clooney? Christian Bale. Christian Bale was your Batman? Okay. Well, Justice League. Who was Batman in Justice League? Like the cartoon. This isn't helping my point I was trying to make.

Christian Bale will always be my Batman. So then did it put a bad taste in your mouth when Robert Pattinson became a Batman? At least a little bit. Because you're like, in my mind, Christian Bale is the Batman. To see someone else try to do it it's just, eh, puts a bad taste in your mouth. Because that, anyways.

For instance, Tobey Maguire was my Spider-Man. So it was a tough pill to swallow for me when people were like, oh, Tom Holland is so great in the Marvel movies. And I'm just like, yeah, but he's like a Wish.com Spider-Man in my mind. I guess I don't really attach myself too much, especially when Christian Bale just stopped doing batman they could have been still doing batman if that aurora shooting didn't happen yeah because they're like yeah we just created this this person yeah we created a real life monster yeah so probably so much and they're all like yeah we're done which then it's like obviously the movie giants are like we're not

letting this money slip away we're gonna make i'll take a thousand batmans yeah christian bale or not yeah so yeah and and uh what was the joker's name heath ledger heath ledger dying to dying that kills so yeah i i mean i would kill to have another another christian bale batman with heath ledger joker movie god that would be imagine the joker in the third movie that would have been absolute chaos appearance with bane no he's fighting bane oh joker fighting bane yeah for control like oh so like it's a three-way attack yeah three-way attack like joker's got his people and bane's got his oh that would be cruel that's what it that's what we were robbed of that heath ledger that would have been crazy

all right give me your two number two as, As Above, So Below. Wow. You moved it all the way down to honorable mention, didn't you? Yeah. Which I saw your face when I was talking about it and how I didn't like it. I was like, I bet he has this kind of high. I did not expect to. I remember the very first time I watched this. I watched it with Trace in my basement

lights off pitch black the moment the movie ended I got up from the couch and just went that was scary because it's a found footage movie very much a psychological

horror trippy movie very much a psychological horror trippy trippy movie very much it's very claustrophobic i don't necessarily think i have claustrophobia but it's very claustrophobic they're going through the catacombs underneath uh paris um and they're encountering all sorts of paranormal fucked up shit down there that is just trippy and fucked up. It's the only way to describe it is this is, there are certain movies that are like, oh, that's like a fucked up horror movie.

Not necessarily gory or jump scary. There's some, LaToupe is the la toupe la toupe just like you said he like is there lingering in the background and then sometimes he's gone he's he spikes that he gronk spikes that girl's head into the floor yeah and then is nowhere to be seen you were you were okay movie so 99 of what you just said i agree with now there's the one percent and that's the ending you're okay with that the ending is very much what is that because they get deeper and deeper and deeper the whole movie they're going down further oh they're descending another they're rappelling down even further yeah for all you know they're like 400 feet into the ground and then all of a sudden they see a

hole and they're like what is like this is a manhole what is this and then they push down which pushed down and then they slide it to the side and they go down through it but then they come up on the street it's not physically possible it's like the gravity just flips at the very end i mean it's it's supposed to be upside down i mean right but it's not realistic so you're okay with everyone surviving or the the three surviving three people surviving i mean i don't know i mean it's whatever. I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's whatever. I don't know. Would you have rather seen everyone die?

Or one survive? I would have rather everybody died. That would have been terrifying. Well, like... What did the three do to survive? They pretty much sacrificed their friends. They only survived because their friends died. It's like, we're going to kill this guy because we have to kill somebody here.

What part? And then there were the one guy that was filming. Forget his name. Him getting pushed down the hole yeah okay and then but i don't think they had to sacrifice anyone at some point well i felt like for the effect of the movie they just had to off one and then there were two and then there was one and yeah i guess to keep the ball rolling on right someone's gotta die now to keep it scary right and then it's like oh you see your friend in the burning car yeah goodbye yeah and then he gets no yeah no backstory just like here's the car

see ya the one thing about so since it's a found footage style movie being filmed by the people in the movie a lot of times what make those so scary is how realistic they are like this like this it seems like it could happen yeah yeah like with that there's some like okay he got sucked into a burning car that seemingly became a miniature black hole and now his feet are sticking out of the ground. Tough. Gravity flips. That's not real. There's a lot of paranormal introduced into that, which may take it away for some people.

May take some people out of it. They did say through this is the gates of hell. And then that's when everything started getting crazy eating crazy so it's not it's not like i couldn't follow it it's i just couldn't when it gets a little too over the top yeah crazy it kind of can take some people it might have only been one notch above too crazy you know so it was right it just didn't you know like when then this is your list i'm not no no no i mean yeah i mean however it makes you feel yeah i mean this is why we're having this discussion yeah what did you think about like when they're in that

tunnel and like that grim reaper guy with like the black hood and the white face just like stands up when they're in the tunnel at one point it gets when it's towards the end of the movie they're encountering all these just like beings and entities down there that are just like what even is that it's not is that real is it not real okay Maybe that's what took you out of it a little bit. When they decided to start going back, when the girl went back, are you talking about then? The guy got injured and she had to run back with the stone. Yep, that guy.

There was a guy sitting in a chair. Who is that? Is that that real is it a goat you know is it the devil but that's that's found footage some people might find that really scary and some people might be like oh now that i just saw a completely unrealistic monster guy now i'm not scared anymore you know yeah like i like you know like the guy's like i don't do underground my brother drowned right yeah yeah yeah that i'm stopping that like the police could arrest me and execute me in the street i'm not going underground yeah and he still went and he still went so i'm like yeah this guy's dead then he lived didn't he yeah yeah he lived but are they alive that's kind of that's where i'm at with that on the same thing i was

just saying like for instance the the newer the newer two it movies it chapter one and two the first one i found scarier because you don't see Pennywise as much. In the second one, he's in it so much at the end. The ending, it automatically became not scary for me because he's on the screen so much that it loses the shock value. I was just going to say there's no... You can just settle into the scene. It basically becomes an action movie. Yeah. It's not as much of a thrill at that point

when you're just seeing them fight him hand-to-hand combat. I think I missed the train on it because I don't like either of those movies at all. I don't know. I liked the first more than the second. I liked the first better than the second. Is it in my top

20 of even scary movies, scary genre scary genre no not even close not good trash okay which one is your number two my number two the devil inside yeah let's talk about that because i just watched that last night yeah this is a freaky movie. It is. This is another one Elijah and I pirated to watch. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Oh, man. I'll say I feel like I'm talking a lot about your list.

You're good. No, I went off on your movie. I was just thinking this is probably one of the better depictions of exorcisms that i've seen in movies it it felt a little more realistic to me because they implemented the the two priests implemented like we monitor their heart rate and we check their pupil dilation, and they make it seem more medical. Yeah. They make it seem more real. And they go, like, you know, a regular exorcism movie spends 50% of the movie doing the exorcism.

So you're just like, oh, how is this thing, how is it still going? Where this movie just throws, like, three exorcisms in it. Yeah. where this movie just throws like three exorcisms in it yeah it's like they're like so so there's a girl whose mom killed three people yeah in an exorcism that's how the movie opens and then she it's a found footage type of thing um they're doing a documentary doing a documentary and they um she goes to meet her mom who got taken to italy to be in like a psych hospital or whatever and she meets up with some priests essentially who they basically tell her like you're not gonna the only way you can experience what an exorcism is like because she's trying to learn about exorcisms from them because they're like taking classes on it

um which again makes it seem even more real and realistic and they're like the only way you're gonna be able to learn is if you go to one yeah so and they're like vigilante exorcists like there's certain yeah the vatican isn't it gets into the isn't uh catholicism yeah the the vatican has to prove it isn't approving these exorcisms that these two are doing yeah they're like these are all people that got turned down yep and so we basically illegally go and do it to just help these people yep and there's a quote he says you'll he's like you'll learn more in the first five minutes of a real exorcism than you would in three months of a class so they go to this girl who is just contorted oh the cracking in that it's oh there's just a sheet on the bed and they're like oh she must be laying

down under there and they slowly peel it back and it's like what is that an elbow yeah she's just like looking yeah her ankles like by her ear which and she's a contortionist because we were watching on amazon and when we pause it will at the bottom show the different actors and the actress who plays that her legs are behind her she's bent backwards her actress so i'm like oh she's a contortionist and but yeah she's like unfolding essentially and it's like yeah the crack it and that just oh it makes my hair on the back of my neck stand up but then they start doing the exorcism and like 30 seconds later it's like she says some crazy shit she speaks in tongues a little bit she goes all cry crazy and riles crawls on the wall a little bit and then she's good she's good so it's like okay the exorcism worked moving on versus it being this is one person that we just cannot get the

demon out of and we're gonna spend the whole movie trying to get it all over the place yep i agree that that did that was an element that kind of that kind of brought some life to the movie because yeah now the only thing i the ending some could say it was like how they left it on a cliffhanger but also it's like was it too fast the ending that's my thought on the ending is that it's way too fast they're like we have five minutes to wrap this up it did seem it does kind of seem like the directors were like we're out of we're out of money we've we've met our time slot uh let's just have them get in a car crash and then i don't know what happened you can you can decide what happened yeah yeah that yeah like i said about as as above so below the devil inside that it's like 99 and then it's just that one that ending a little bit that's like takes you out of it that kind of like so i remember this was What year was this?

Let me look it up really quick, because I actually really want to know. 2012? 2011? Hear my crusty keyboard? Wow, I wish I had internet. Oops. Not devil outside. 2012 inside ah so that would have been in um that would have been like freshman freshman year for me or maybe eighth grade for me um i remember

seeing like that nun um as like a poster or whatever yeah don't worry my computer's about to take off it's spooling up for takeoff yeah you saw the moment i pulled up another window my computer shows i'm getting hot over here taking off but is that none even in the movie they're walking um let's see it's before they go to the like asylum to do an exorcism on her mom they're at they went to like the class yeah and they're walking like by a bridge and they're like talking about her mom and then they walk past two nuns and then the girl turns around and the nun like flips her like her head around and then her eyes are rolled back like that and then flips back it's like i need to go i need to go look that up because i must like a split second and you're like, whoa, that was freaky. I think I missed it because I do remember Lena going, that nun's shorts are really short.

I was just like, huh? Or she was like, that nun's dress seems really short. And I didn't see it. So that might have been the part. Okay. Yeah. Well. We all knew it was coming.

Is Hereditary the best movie? Best scary movie? It might be, dude. This movie is so. You want to throw yours out? Yeah, I'll throw mine. This movie, like I said, it's crazy. Not only is it my number one, but it's, I would also say a number one recommend it's like like i don't know recently

and i mean the last like three years you go to a bar and you ask a guy what his favorite movie is he'll say interstellar he wouldn't have dared say that five years ago when it came out but all of a sudden it's trendy and i'm like these hoes didn't even see it in theaters they gave up you've got an anna hathaway matthew mcconaughey uh uh matt damon i mean it was fully loaded and um michael cain yeah nobody saw it in theaters. Casey Affleck. Yeah. And now, my favorite movie is Interstellar. Adult Murph. I can't remember what her name is, but she's the lady in It 2, grown up.

Isn't she in Arrival 2? I don't know. I haven't seen it. You haven't seen Arrival? I can't watch every movie. I've seen it you haven't seen arrival i can't watch every movie i've seen a lot of why you can't because the door is not open all the way the theater's not open only in three days okay i think i've said that on every podcast i need to keep going yeah so hereditary Start to finish. Unreal. Yeah. Great start. Strong finish. The acting is amazing. The family argument at the dinner scene.

Yeah. The family argument at the dinner scene is so... The music. I've been there. Maybe not that level, but... Fuck you. Just saying fuck you to my mom. Yeah.

Haven't been that far. I'd say the last 20 minutes of that movie, you are just like, you feel like this guy in the chair. Like you're just like, what the hell? Sink into your chair. No, sink. You're just like what do you like chris what the hell into your chair no scene you're just like um one of our favorite things to do lena and i is when we find out people that haven't seen hereditary we go we need to watch it together and we vicariously watch it to the first time by watching it with them okay because they are seeing it for the first time and we love watching their reaction to, you know, the scene.

That's exhilarating. Well, really all the scenes, but... What scene? Telephone pole. Oh, yeah. That scene. I love that. I just love listening to what the fuck

coming from the other couch as the movie is progressing. It's great. You got to do it um yeah my other favorite part well i don't know if the telephone pole is one of my favorite parts the the part the most probably chilling part for me is gotta be when he at the very end when she becomes possessed and she's crawling around the walls and yeah after her son when he at the very end when she becomes possessed and she's crawling around the walls and yeah after her son when he runs up into the attic and she's banging on the bottom of it you just hear you basically hear like that and you're just like oh my god how's she pounding on

the first of all it's like a 10 foot ceiling how is she pounding and then as you're thinking that it cuts and she's upside down on the ceiling on all fours banging her head like a jackhammer against the ceiling oh my god i'm getting chills right now just thinking about it yeah the i think the most disturbing part for me was the girl like making the dolls with the dead birds what that was the most disturbing part for you that's so real that's like there's kids out there doing that i mean i guess i mean it like not the part where she's just slicing her head off with a piano chord saw style she's just staring at her son in the eyes. The kid making crow dolls was more disturbing. Most disturbing

that's relatable. You ever see a dead bird and wonder, hey, I might just snap its neck, snap its head off and then attach it to my doll that I've been making all day. Not personally. Okay. But if I was like,

oh my God, why did that little girl pick up that dead bird and start petting it? Then I'd probably be like, uh, uh. I'm going to move along here. Yeah.

I'm going to get away. No eye contact. I'm going to get away from this area. Don't put nuts in brownies either. Do you have any band-aids? Do you have any tape? No. Get away from me. No. Take all the money in my wallet. I do not have any tape? No. Get away from me.

Nope. Take all the money in my wallet. I do not have any tape. Yeah. Call your mom. That movie is so good. Again, Ari Aster. I don't know.

I think he might be making a new movie soon. Don't quote me on that. Did he not just come out with one? I don't know. I can't remember. Put it in the internet. Can I bet that movie? Can I watch that movie?

Can I bet that out? Can I please bet that out? Please. Ari Aster movies. Oh yeah, he did come out with one in 2023. I'm yeah i have to give that a watch hereditary was one year before midsummer oh my god two bangers two bangers back-to-back years that's crazy again the way he i captures grief yeah i was asleep on Midsommar. I don't... Before you

mentioned it, I hadn't heard of it. And I... I hadn't really even thought of it or watched it or knew about it either. I'm like... And you'll see my movie account. Like, I'll see just a random movie and I'm like, yeah, I want to watch that and I'll just buy it. Yeah.

I have a ton of movies. And I don't, there's not a movie in there right now that I haven't watched, but there was a span where I was just buying like three or four movies at a time. And I was like, I'll get back to this. Yeah. I was like, yeah, never got to it. And then started catching back up. So anyways, so for midsummer to sleep slip underneath my radar. Pretty crazy because that's a I think that's a hitter.

He kind of slips under the radar for people to both of these movies are. I didn't see it. I mean, psychological. I got hereditary out of Redbox. So I wasn't in the theater for it, but I did see it. I mean, psychological. I got Hereditary out of Redbox. Oh, you did? So I wasn't in the theater for it, but I did see it. Right. I mean, DVD came out, and I was like, Hereditary.

And then I just Googled the... It looks pretty unassuming. It does. You're cracking up today. You were crack-a-lacking on the last pod, too. Hopefully this one we can get the fucking whole thing up, because I don't know what happened. This is going to be a very visual one, too.

Yeah, I don't... I'm filming on my phone list. I don't know if the phone has anything to do with it, or if YouTube was just fucking up. Be good, please. Yeah. I like your list a lot i'm glad you didn't put jeepers creepers and freddie versus jason honestly i was just trying to think of because when i was making mine and making it about personal i was like what i like to think of nostalgic a lot um and so i

thought what are two movies that were stuck out to me from my childhood that got me started on scary movies and those two are what got me started if i was to put two real honorable mentions like what would be a six and seven these would not yeah be near the list it would probably that i mean it would probably be like an insidious or you know i don't know if i could go back i'd maybe put insidious on my top i don't know i'm rambling you are rambling anything else i don't know i don't think i can even speak any more words i feel like i've already said so many so you won i think i've met my word count for this episode you won that you get four the Spooktober sweatshirt. Spooktober.

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