Grass Daddies Podcast - Episode 78: Kam-Cation

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

In this episode of the Grass Daddies Podcast, we find ourselves outside of the normal studio as Jake is visiting Kam on a solo mini vacation. The boys talk about their impending golf round and explain what a handicap is. Jake leads Kam into venting about his former boss who he had less than a favorable relationship with… SHANKITGOLF.COM Code:grass Follow us on Social Media! Youtube: grassdaddiespodcast Instagram: @grassdaddiespodcast @kamdenwellmann @jakekillham Tik Tok: @grassdaddiespodcast @kandenwellmann (yes that's how it's spelled) @jakekillham11

Dude, there's TikToks where people have like, Bushlight Banana, and it's 100% not real, or it can't be real. It's like, you know what they're like? Photoshopped packages. You know what they're doing? It's almost like you take one sip of alcohol and you just come alive.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Welcome to the fucking a scooter podcast. I can't even hear myself. Oh, you know why? Because I don't even have my mic. As you can tell, we are not in the normal grass study studio. Yeah, hold that for why your deal was so quiet What deal? No, it's no because well, I just had this plugged into the computer because I was trying to test it. Yeah Yeah, yeah

As you can tell from it looks like we're sitting on a casting couch right now. I from it looks like we're sitting on a casting couch right now. I know this scenario may seem familiar but if you keep watching the result that you're used to is probably not going to happen. I mean I don't know where this podcast is going to go but we are not in the normal studio because we are visiting Cam. We're on a little mancation by we I mean me and we're we're visiting the old Cam. We're at the old Cam. I don't know what do you got a nickname for this place? The Shaggin Wagon. The Shaggin Wagon? I don't know. The

Shag Shack. Sure the Shag Shack. Is that all because that's all you really do here. Yeah I usually don't live here. We just actually broke into this house you're squatting and I kind of told Jake that it was my house, but It's not it's not um we I just put it a sign on our door that says wellman so everybody thinks it's our house, but Well, I hope the real owners don't come back Before I have to real owners don't come back before I have to leave. I don't know.

As you can see, we don't have a normal setup here. We don't have our pop filters. So if, what, you all right? No, they just keep going like. They keep going in and out? Yeah. Well, shove it in. It might not be in all the way.

There you go. Again, we don't have our normal shit here, keep going in and out. Yeah. We'll shove it in. It might not be in all the way. There you go. Again, we don't have our normal **** here. So, there may be a couple technical difficulties. I don't know but we're we're back with the two. I didn't even do the proper

intro. I'm Jake. That's Cam and we are the grass daddy. That's why we're now now we can hey, let's lock it in here Got my utter truck We don't have the mini fridge here. So we had to provide our own beverages. It is nine in the morning Once again like everything for some reason when we first started this podcast I think everybody's probably heard this story about four times But we're just like decided like let's go record a fucking podcast and everything wasn't that easy

And so then we also go this morning. We went got energy drinks Jake goes. Yeah, we could record one before we go golfing Yeah, we're doing right now, yeah, so now we're here. We're live from your shag and check from the shag shack But Like cam said we we don't have our normal shit here. So there's any I Don't know when we tested it out. The audio seemed really quiet yeah, but I I called back to buy it. Yeah, We were like, let's just plug it in and go and then we couldn't just plug it in and go because we figured out that we just So I matched everything to this and it still seems weird but well We're just gonna roll with it and see what it yeah, I I don't know. I'm not a big like Electronic guy, right? So but you know what it is, you know what it might be actually.

Typically, when we record these were we're fucking we're banged up. And so we're going to be once you put that next to your mouth. So we end up we end up being louder. So maybe that's why it comes through louder. Very true. Or maybe we fucked something up and someone's gonna go to listen to this and they're gonna have their truck at max volume. They're gonna have their truck at max volume

and then it's gonna cut to like the outro music and just fucking rattle the fucking mirror off. It's gonna be at max volume so they can listen to us with like max bass and everything. And then, oh, did you polish that off already? Damn? Yeah, and then they're gonna like drive through a tunnel and they're Like Bluetooth is gonna cut out. That's not how that works But something's gonna cut out and it's gonna switch back to radio just below their windows out

Mine does that like because I have to plug mine in with like my phone charger in my pickup And yeah, if you bump it right it'll cut to the radio. I Don't know I actually kind of like this setup I like sitting on the sitting on the old couch I can kind of lean back a little bit Just buy like no it looks like I'm trying to looks like I'm about to jerk off like a robot cock Right in my mouth. Yeah So what is this? So? You said we should buy a casting couch. Yeah

What do you mean? Oh for the studio? Yeah And then just get like really long cables because then just like we definitely should get longer cables. Yeah ways But yeah, like I'm hardly ever there anyways, but like. We definitely should feels a lot more normal Sitting like this versus sitting at a table like a prairie dog like it feels like I'm yelling at you every five seconds to Move your boom or sit up close or shut up or stop shitting or like I just have a mic I'm just have a mic in my hand and headphones on and there's just a camera recording me, but it just feels like No one can hear you when you're like It feels like a natural conversation like we're just say you're like shooting the shit ready to fuck it is

Except when you feel like you're like in Nickelback, and you're holding the mic like a rock star in your line What's up guys? Thanks for coming out to my show This is my dog. I Don't know if he's even he might be making it He might be in the shot. It's alright barely So we had to provide our own drinks because we didn't have the mini fridge Like I said, it's 9 in the morning because no one drinks this early in the morning. That'd just be crazy I know

that's why I said that you **** me **** It's just one. Ruger was kind of spooning with me last night a little bit. Was he? Yeah. Well, it was mainly this morning. I know like he got up in there and he was just he was licking. I

mean everywhere. I mean, no, I mean he was licking my face and he was licking my pillow and I'm like Hey, yeah, that's when he's like only I can drool on my pillow. Hey yo ready to wake the fuck up It's time to like feed me But yeah, he was like kind of being a little ho last night He'd come up jump in my bed lay with me for a little bit jump down go to your bedroom I'm like he was running a trade on us a Cuddle, go to your bedroom. I'm like, he was running a train on us. A cuddle train, a cuddle train. I'm done. See ya. He's like, let's see if the other guy's got any left. So we're going golfing today. I'm excited. Yeah. I got Jake playing with some of the guys that I play with usually on like

a regular basis. So are these guys like going to be like the guys you play with in league? Well, they all play league but yeah, like so we usually what is like the league format? Like how does that work? So I've never been a part of it everybody plays their own ball. I Mean like what is the overall setup? Do you have the same partner every time or so like Ryan now? Yeah, have you met Ryan? I don't think so Well, he's my league partner. So it's just us and then we play two other guys every week like two different guys every week What day Thursday Thursday Thursday night? And then is there like a season like how long does it go for is there like?

Do you keep track of your wins and then you yeah, so wait for like a trophy or something you get points? there's a point a hole and then at the end of it you can win total so like What I mean by that is Me and you say me and you got today, right? Yeah, and we're playing somebody else if we were doing that format Say you parred and the guy you're playing bogey If you didn't have to give him a shot like his handicap, mm-hmm, you would get a point and Then you just keep getting points as you go.

And then at the end of it, you add up those two guys' scores and mine and your score. And if we beat them, we get the total point. Okay. And then you just get points. And then we have like a leaderboard, like standings, like where you're at. So then like towards the end of the season?

Yeah. Is there like a playoff or like a little tournament between the top players? I don't know for sure. I haven't like. So how are you guys doing this year? We were in first, like first four weeks. And then, so we also have,

there wasn't enough teams, so everybody has a bi-week. But the only thing that sucks is once you're bi-week, you lose all the points. You don't get any points. So we went from first to damn near last. In one week? Yeah. What the fuck?

Yeah, so it is what it is. But so what is your handicap? I think I'm a six right now. So you're plus six? No. So you're plus six. No. Are you a minus six? Well, because technically, in handicap scoring, plus is like six under par.

Right. So I'm a minus six. You get six taken off. Yeah, I get six added to my, well, not added. OK, so yeah, for everyone that doesn't understand handicap, because I'm sure there's a lot of people that are like, everyone's like, what's your handicap in golf?

Explain what that means. So, handicap is what you typically shoot over. So like, ours is based on a nine hole handicap. So like, I'm a six and nine holes for a league So like you'd be a 12 you double it be a 12 But the golf course I play at we actually need to change it to having separate handicaps Because the back plays easier for some people and the back plays harder for some people and some people tear up the front

So it's like you never get a true feel of like your handicap. Okay, but explain Exactly what it means. So like okay. Yeah a golf course par Yeah, so like par like layman's terms for people that literally have no idea You know, you could be a par 71 par 72 par 65 anywhere and that means the total for that golf course If you are every single hole you would shoot that 72. Yeah and So what your handicap is what you typically shoot over so like say you're always shooting four over on the front You would be a four.

Let's say you consistently shoot 80 on a 72. What would that make you? Uh, well, somebody three, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78. Yeah. You'd be an eight handicap. Right. So then when you play against other people you could go up somebody that's like shoots three over like three over par all the time so

they'd be a three handicap right and you mean eight yeah they would give you strokes because you're technically worse than them yeah to make it so to make it even yeah to make it so basically you're both at your average. Since if you play enough to where you know exactly what you shoot on average. I just played in a golf tournament last week. It's basically a way to quantify your skill at golf to make it fair.

Because if you were to be terrible and play against someone who's really good, then there would be no competition. Yeah, exactly. It'd be like if you went and played like against my brother or something, you know, just like straight right? You have to give me like 20 stroke. You're never gonna fucking minimum win straight up. So Yeah What was I gonna say I just played in the golf tournament last weekend and a guy got 39 shots He got 39 cap was 39 Sounds like was it me no it wasn't me you're better than for that you think I am oh

Yeah Here's the deal that's terrible you can bogey every fucking hole and still shoot even par with a handicap Under you could shoot like under par with I don't know I sometimes have holes where I fall apart So but he comes in right and he's not like that bad He shoots a 42 on the front It's like you can't I It's like you can't I Got to shoot like fucking eight under with my handicap to even write be close to it. So But yeah, that's just kind of what handicap is so today they might actually

Well depending on who we play well, here's the deal. I don't know mine. I don't I was just around the drop I don't All right, so I don't know my handicap So if these old guys or whoever were playing today are just like how many strokes should we give you? I'm gonna be like like 20 30. I don't know. I know not that high Like 20, 30, 35. No, not that high. Because I don't know, I don't play enough to where I know what I shoot consistently.

And all the golf I've been doing recently has all been like scrambles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been doing scrambles and then we do match play. So we're doing hole by hole. So like I have honestly no, I haven't played my own ball playing a round of golf and I don't know how long So I honestly have no idea

If I can break a hundred we'll get it out there well, we'll figure it out and today and If all goes to plan We're gonna maybe record another one tonight Yeah, and we'll be able to update you guys. So it'd be a week later for you guys a few hours for us. I still got a shit, dude I've got oh, yeah, you know, I've got one honking for the right away behind me Get over But yeah

When was the last time we... Golfed together? No, well that and recorded an episode. You and I recorded when you and Bailey came for... Didn't we record when she had that wedding makeup and then we went to Shields? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause then Furby and...

Yeah, Furby and Trey surprised you on the pod. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because then Furby and yeah, Furby and Trey surprised you on the play. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. That's the ticket. Oh, my God. So but the last time we golfed together, it's been like, probably a you now. Yeah, we. I mean, probably wasn't wilderness. it was probably might have been like Newmark I don't know we played there a couple times but it might have been wilderness I think it was one of those days they let us go play golf was

it the last time we played where I don't know but but we can't. Cut anyways. So. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah, we were looking up because I wasn't sure if this where we're going, because we stopped here when we were coming to the Olympics a couple of years ago, because your brother was playing in that tournament.

The haymaker. What is that? That's like the big tournament of the year. Everybody comes out, it's two days, you play your own ball. And there's like four or five flights. So I remember stopping for that, but I couldn't remember if that's what

the Cozad Country Club was. So before I left, yesterday we were looking it up. So it's 18 holes and it's like 6,000 yards. Something like that. Which is kind of short, isn't it? Yeah, it's not real long. So it's kind of like every other golf course right now is they built the front nine and had the front nine long before and

Then they built the back nine. So the back nine is like more of a link style. Oh There's not as many trees the fronts just trees the back has water Grass but there's a lot of like low maintenance areas, isn't there? From what I can remember. Yeah, now. So this course definitely favors a straight hitter, doesn't it? Yeah, well, even with the trees. So I can't wait. Yeah, yeah.

Like I said, I don't know. I can will myself to not slice it as hard. I've been working on it. But I like this. That's why I like Saturdays. We go out and play. We always say it's like, oh yeah, we're playing for quarters, like a quarter a hole,

and then you can auto press and do all sorts of shit. Sure. But at the end of it it's always the losers just Buy it round right so it's it's like kind of competitive Low stakes yeah exactly it's like in league. It's a little more serious, but I like going out well Yeah, kind of I don't really take it serious. I try to drink as much as I can but Yeah, we just like I like having like a little bit of competition, you know, just going out and just like going

out with your friends dropping six balls here and fucking whacking, you know, right. So like to touch on that, like I'm in sand volleyball league, right? Yeah. And I'm I try a little harder at it than some of the other players, which it's not a serious league Yeah, it's Just a way to like, you know, go out with your friends get a little exercise And drink a little bit and drink a little bit but It's still You're you're playing a sport, right?

You're playing volleyball. Yeah. And what's the objective of a sport? To win. To score points and score more points than the other team. Yeah. So if the objective is essentially to win, when you lose, it's like you failed the objective.

So it's still fun going through the process of playing and being out there with your friends. But if you're just getting dog walked every week, or you're getting, you know, all right, we had to cut right there because my alarm went off. I don't know why I was expecting, well, I mean, 9.30, that's a pretty decent sleep in. I didn't know what you're playing. Well, I mean 930. That's a pretty decent. Yeah I didn't know I didn't know what you're playing like

Like you said, it's kind of your vacation. I'm like You're not you weren't gonna be like, you know, you got to be up at 7 because we got shit to do We got to go into the water treatment. Yeah, no fucking scribble some bags but I love how my impression of you is just like a southern old guy, old guy that just like eats chew. Just like we're going to go and we're going to break the blind. We're going to break and we're going to clean out the gators. But no, but my my alarm just was going off. And this has happened a couple of

times where like my mom will call me right when we're recording and I'm like No, uh, like it's always like me Every time I call you. Yeah So brugger it's always like, um, I don't I Was like what are the odds that she's fucking calling right now? Yeah, no shit like 930 We should call him and tell him what's up though. They don't they don't even know I'm here Well, what are you guys doing for the fourth? We're going to Norfolk. Oh, there you go. So nothing with you. That's right We could maybe do something because I think maybe on the third I might go over to like traces

Yeah, yeah, itace and Alyssa's, because they live in a cul-de-sac. Which is, and this is what we should, you know what, this is the topic we should talk about. Small town vibes. Since we're in a small town right now, talk about small town vibes, because I feel like the 4th of July in a cul-de-sac

is like a perfect encapsulation of small town vibes. It's good and bad. Small town vibes are good are good. Okay, give us the pros and cons because you live in a small town. You know everybody. You know everybody. And you know everybody's business, but also everybody knows your business. So is knowing everyone's business a pro? No. And everyone knowing your business is definitely a con. Like, cause there's like some real pieces of work in our town. Okay, name them by name and tell them what they're out.

And it's just like, I- We don't have to talk about this either. I didn't think, you know, like you don't think these people are that bad a people until you realize or like you hear stories about what they do and you're like, yeah, you're a piece of shit. Until you see them shooting up

and hitting their spouse or something in the backyard and then they're like, you coming over later for a beer? And you're like, fuck no, you're not who I thought you were. Yeah, kinda. But yeah, I mean, it's good. The camaraderie element is what I love about a small town. Yeah and like since I, my job that I do is everybody sees you so everybody kind of knows oh yeah.

That's kind of another thing. There's that kid that's always covered in shit. That's kind of the other thing though is like it kind of sucks because in the end you kind of have to watch your P's and Q's everywhere you go because of my job. Right. Because like everybody's like oh that's the kid that works for the city and then if you do something stupid everybody's gonna know about it so. Right. But that's why I just go to a different town and just be a degenerate. No I I'm just kidding but tips and tricks folks Tips and tricks. Yeah, I mean I like it Bailey wishes we still lived in Lincoln, but That is a conversation for not being recorded. Just because for the money aspect. Do you have like a

Do you have like a 4th of July blowout here or do people kind of? Yeah, there's like spots in town, really. We have that lake I showed you yesterday that's in town. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They light off fireworks, the fire department lights off fireworks. Oh really? The big thing this town has was just last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you have any like festivals or things like that? Like the Fireman's Ball. What is that? Fireman's Ball is just things like the fireman's ball. What is that? Fireman's ball is just like for the volunteer fire department here Everybody comes in they have like this little Parking lot, you know where the tropical snow was yesterday. Yeah that whole deal They block off that entire like block right and then they just have barbecue like a party But for the fucking whole town base Yeah, and people from everywhere. That's sweet, but they have like Barbie. You pretend like your special needs and go up on the fire engine

Never done that but uh, oh yeah, you've never done that but they like have brisket ribs Like but every like they have different like competitive Skit ribs like but every like they have different like competitive Barbecues that come in and you can just like you grab a plate for a dollar And you're a dollar you walk around and load up food as you can eat. Oh And then you I'm coming back for that you buy tickets for like Alcohol like beers or whatever and they make frozen margaritas oh my fucking god you can get so shit-faced no and they have bands they usually have like two people two bands sing

nice at it it's pretty cool speaking of alcohol haha you just looked at me like I said, we're not in the studio. We're in a different and if you're wondering what I'm looking at, I'm looking at the reflection in the TV, but we don't quite have the same, I know it doesn't have the same feel with the 70s wood panel background

at the old grass daddy studio. The guys are actually in the living quarters of my house. Yeah, we're getting a little interpersonal here. It's a good thing, it's actually good that this podcast isn't popular because man, it'd be so easy for people to find you if they really wanted to. Yeah. So, hopefully, by the time this does go viral and

people, we're getting like, you know, a couple millions of views on each episode. You'll be long gone from this location and no one will be able to find you. I don't really care. It's like a time capsule situation Oh, by the way, we're drinking some bush light limes, which I didn't even know Dude, there's tic tocs where people have like bush light banana And it's a hundred percent not real or it can't be real It's like you know what they're like photoshopped packages. You know what they're doing

It's almost like you take one sip of alcohol and you just come alive Okay I love beer We're sitting here on this couch. We're going like I don't know so we're golfing later We're hanging out that you take one sip and you're just like, you wanna hear about my alter ego? All right, so are you on Facebook quite a bit? Not really. I have it though. What do you mean by on it?

You know how there was the deal of the breastfeeding videos? Like the conspiracy theory of the breastfeeding videos like the conspiracy theory of the bias by the way our voice Memo lines have gotten significantly bigger Perfect The breastfeeding videos yeah, like you couldn't go to Facebook watch without seeing like a child like burr you page yeah, like a child birth or tits or something like that like What the fuck and it was just like the most random thing ever you'd be like on your regular just home page

Yeah, and you'd be like I'm gonna scroll over to the marketplace and then you'd be like why is someone skinning a peach? and then you'd be like oh That's not a that's a baby's fucking melon But That's not a that's a baby's fucking melon But So fresh as it gets hi Facebook blue balls me all the time not because whoa whoa whoa whoa not because of the breastfeeding videos in the childbirth sorry There's people that post sequels to movies coming out.

Okay, why did you have to say Blue Balls for that? Because they're not real. Oh, oh. Like people are like, like Step Brothers 2, somebody posted Step Brothers 2 and I'm like, no fucking way. Yeah. We got Happy Gilmore 2 and now Step Brothers 2 fucking way Yeah, we got happy Gilmore 2 and now stepbrothers 2 I am which the happy Gilmore 2 thing. I was like is that real?

Yeah, it's probably not real and then it is See so like I don't I hate me of another thing because there's so many good movies and people like posting it and That's what people are doing with Bush light Yeah, yeah, yeah like Like the grape and banana. The grape, and then I was like, no way, because that would be fucking fire. Banana? No, no, no, the grape.

Maybe. Well, I like grape. You know, yeah, I like grape too, but I'm just saying, you know what kind of, I feel like set this all in motion. The like Photoshopping Bush light boxes or just the fake movies or what? All the different kinds of beers. What?

The Happy Dads. The Happy Dads? How? Because they started coming out with like the grape, the Death Row Records grape. Yeah, but

But Happy Dads are seltzers aren't they? Yeah, but like different beers have been doing there's all kind There is so many different flavors of beers and happy dads is relatively new I got something that's gonna blow your mind that I just found out So, you know Miklo Bolta Yes, have you had the cactus lime and prickly pear No, okay. Have you had the cactus lime and prickly pear? No. OK, have you had the infusions? No.

Miklo Bolter and fusions. Yeah, it's like they're prickly pear, but they have like two of them. And I didn't realize that because I was like, oh, yeah, I like the infusions. And I went out to the golf course here and they're in like the same can I was like, can I get the infusions and they're like, no, you mean I'm like Infusions like no, these are different. I'm like No way no way So anyways, um

Yeah, I was watching tiktok and I saw that bush light grape and I was like, nuh-uh. And then I looked at the comments and they're like, look, you can see it's taped. And they like zoomed in and it was like the guy made or like printed on the cardboard or something and like made it so it wasn't real. And there was like bush light banana. So then I saw that and I was like, that's not real, but it is real

It's really good. You know what? It's like though And it's along the same lines as the fake movies It's the whole boy who cried wolf thing yeah where where when You've when you pretend to do something for so long and then when you're trying to be serious, no one believes you. I've been starting to do this at work a little bit

since I've gotten promoted to a more managerial position. I'm not like the head honcho by any means, but like if I have- You can make waves. I can direct people really want to do I can direct people around a little bit or if someone messes something up I can tell them to go fix it yeah and they gotta listen to me and it's it's never when anything serious is going on it's when people are just you know finishing

up a job or something like that or people are walking around the shop I'll like drive by and I'll like drive by and I'll like be sitting in my car and they'll be like putting something away or something and I'll be like, can I talk to you for a second? And they'll like come over to me and they'll just drive away. I started by doing it to early. Nolan and my Nolan and I were driving on my cart and early was blowing. He was on the Buffalo blower, driving around just blowing rough. And I like stopped and I was like, or I think I got off my car to go talk to him

and he like takes his headphones off, throttles the blower all the way down and then I just turned around and walked back to my car and tried to leave. So he's like, I think one time he turned it off fully. So now I was like, I need to stop doing this because at a certain point there's going to be something where I actually need. I'm going to be like, Hey, and they're going to be like, fuck you. And I'm going to be like, no, no, no. And they're going

to be like, no, I don't believe it. I had a kid try to do it to me. I was like walking back into the offices and he was like mowing the NGAT. Yeah. And he like was like messing with his like throttle or something and he's like, it's not working. And I was just like, fuck. I was like, are you fucking with me? And he's like, come over, it's not working. And I was just like, are you fucking with me? And he kind of smiled and I just kept walking.

Anyways. But see, that's cool though. That's nice to hear like the morale is like. Oh, the morale is at an all time though. That's nice to hear, like the morale is like. Oh, the morale is at an all time high. That's nice. Now that we've had a little bit of change in management, but we're not gonna name any names, or get into any specifics,

but there are certain people that are no longer there that just seem to lull things to a level that weren't, I'm really trying to dance around the words here. Just didn't create a favorable environment for people to feel comfortable. Does that make sense? And it sucked because I always really liked tournament days. It's like the same thing with my job now. I love bad storms because it's like, all right, now everybody's firing on all cylinders. We're all here for the same objective, like put out the best for what we can do.

And then you have people come in in the morning and they're like, yeah, we didn't drink too hard last night. But for a golf course, it's like that every day or should be yeah every single day I Think of it like this and I was thinking about this to myself the other day every single day is like a new a New project or a new it's almost like Every week feels like it's like season one of this. You know what I mean? It's like there's such a journey

when it comes to golf course maintenance where it's like, you know, cause you have certain things you're trying to accomplish each week and then you throw in events and tournaments and then you have to like change your maintenance a little bit to like accommodate for the certain level of setup you're doing.

And it's like a journey every single time and it takes a lot of people to make the to make it happen yeah I mean like you can't have a motor running fucking on half like not to use the full cylinders thing again but like half a motor running doesn't work right he's got to be gotta have all the parts working if you want it to work well like a well-oiled machine literally but. In order to basically okay, let's think of it like this. You gotta have a good conductor at the helm of the ship or the train or something.

You know, when there's a lot of moving parts and there's one overseer or a couple different overseers, those guys gotta be locked in, not necessarily physically, but they are in charge of making sure all the physical parts aka your workers are Where they need to be? in order to make things run smoothly now and then if stuff goes to shit, they got to be able to like Right bring everybody back down, right?

Right when when certain things aren't working well They've got to make sure they are. And a lot of times these jobs aren't necessarily the funnest thing in the world. So you got to take on the responsibility of making sure that they're still somewhat enjoying themselves, because if they're hating their lives, they're going to put out a shit product. But if they're having fun doing these monotonous jobs, then you're going to get a better result out of them. And that takes a little bit of effort from the boss.

And that's what, actually, what you just said made me think- Resonated with you a little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because that's why I think I always want to do the shitty jobs Like somebody's like go out and we'd eat. I'm like, okay Like that's not that bad. Do you think it's because well, I know if I do it I'll maintain a good attitude and it nobody's mood will be brought down Exactly versus if someone else gets sent out to do it They're gonna pout and I just don't want that for the crew.

Exactly. And that's like why it always pisses me off. You're doing a shitty job, and I'll just tell people straight up. If you're doing a shitty job, they come in with a fucking negative attitude. I'm like, now you're making it miserable for fucking everybody else because you're in a shitty mood. And it's like, we're all doing the same job.

We're all here together like let's just Fucking work together get it done and we'll be done Again, like like we talked about when we were going to dinner last night We're not gonna name any names, but we're at the point now where we could probably start telling some stories if we wanted yeah and And be okay. You know, you could tell stories if you don't name any names.

Technically, no one knows who you're talking about. But yeah, we had a guy that previously worked for us. He doesn't work there anymore. And just like we talked about, he kind of would bring the mood down sometimes. Come in, tell everybody what they're doing. And just just like we talked about he kind of would bring the mood down sometimes come in Tell everybody what they're doing. Well, he's hungover and feels like shit and just sits there and does nothing. It's like, okay That's like I've kind of I'm kind of leading

Maybe I'm not doing what I should be doing right now, but I'm kind of like I'm not doing I'm not naming any names because I still work there or really getting into too much detail But it's kind of like I'm leading my horse to water, but I'm not gonna force it to drink and I'm gonna see if he drinks But like it that's something don't work there anymore. So you can kind of let them scale a little bit. I know I know But like it that's something don't name any names. That's something I honestly don't care that I always thought was fucking stupid You're essentially my boss and you're telling me what to do not essentially He was my boss and you come in all hungover and with your butt, buddy You guys went out and drink and so It was like a mutual agreement for them

I don't know if it actually was but it's that what it felt like we go out and drink together I'm not gonna make you do a hard job in the morning. I'm gonna let you milk your hangover and It was unfair to everybody and kind of puts a fucking nail in it because you come in just because- Wasn't fair. You're friends with this guy, you got drinking. Now he's your-

Special treatment. He's your boss and that's illegal in a workplace, but- Technically. Whatever. Technically they should have told HR. Exactly. But everybody knew about it. I'm just kidding, I don't think they were actually dating.

No, but it's still like, it would, we could get in trouble if I still work there and you're my best friend and you gave me easy jobs because now you have a management position. It didn't, you don't gotta be dating but you just got to be no. Yeah Yeah, but And and it's another thing too it it's another kind of It's another kind of jab when when that person is

Judgmental and says, you know, you need to be more mature and you need to Basically When they're an absolute hypocrite. Oh, it was it was so fucking He was so fucking conniving. It was ridiculous conniving It was ridiculous. It's like you know what everybody go out on a big-ass canoe, right? You take the entire team our entire workforce We had and you go out in the ocean and you're stranded in an ocean and you have a canoe Well in order to get to that beach

Everybody's got a row because you want to go in a straight line Right and they come in and they're like, yeah, I'm tired, I don't want to. So everybody else is rowing and it's like a one-legged duck swims in a circle. Yeah, that's what it was like. You have the rest of everybody trying to work hard for something and your boat's just sitting here going like this in a circle because they're only,

guys are only canoeing on this side. So then everybody sees that. And so you kind of flip sides. Well, now you take half the party and spread it out even thinner. And it just feels like it's the most inefficient way of doing something because some people just wanna sit on their ass

and do absolutely fucking nothing because they're lazy pieces of work. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Can I tell you, so I shared a lot of these same feelings

as you, I may not have been as outright verbal about them, but you know, there'd be times where, I mean, I didn't have a lot of respect for this person, but I still was respectful. And you know, I understood I had a job to do. And when they would tell me to do something, I would do it because they were my boss. You know, it's not like I didn't. Yeah, but it was tough for me to you know, look in their general direction but but it was smell in there but it

was funny when we would be like in a morning meeting or something and they would be this was my favorite and I think about this a lot. I would be in a morning meeting and they'd be talking or saying something, giving input, giving their general thoughts, or even giving direction. And I'd be, and I would look at Cam and I would love watching you look at them as they're

talking and I could just see the amount of just hatred and loathing in your face. As you're listening to them talking, you're just like, I hate that I'm sharing the same errors. Dude, there was so many times in the morning meeting, I wanted to just stay in your eyes. Reach across the table and just fucking for him. Oh fucking And then like it was so bad This guy is a boss and biggie like telling everybody what to do and would stand up and walk outside and throw up This happened. I don't think I was there for that. It was on a weekend Yes, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I literally just wanted to just walk out.

And so when our big boss goes, where the fuck's Cam at? I'd be like, the fucking guy you have being my boss right now went out and puked because he's hung over in a fucking morning meeting. Yeah, and then I get told I need know, I need to keep it together. Yeah, like that I get judged for. Yeah, no, whatever. And you like me. OK, when I work there, I just turned 21. What do you expect from a 21 year old?

There's going to be a little bit of partying. There's going to be a little bit of hungover. Oh, but I do that. I get like fucking act chastised. Yeah, like I'm like this big. Everybody looks at you like you're like this big. They look at you like you're an irresponsible, young, three years old or like 48 to 53. I don't know how old he was. I didn't really care. Can go out and act like a 21 year old and still have the position he had was fucking

Mind-boggling my horse is lapping up that water It was so It's like somebody sending you into war like you could you imagine like your sergeant or something going yeah We're gonna get shot at Okay, you guys. Well you are you guys go have fun. I'm gonna sit right here in base and just Play with my dick Yeah, no fuck you. There's there's certain types of leaders. There's people who lead from the front people who Lead from in the middle of the pack and people who sit back and point the finger

Even when they first hired him Yeah, I'm laughing up that water now because I don't know. Fuck. When they first hired him, he had like 20 some fucking jobs in like 10 years, like kind of a red flag, a huge red flag. Fuck, he can't hold the job. And like at that age, that's the age that you're like. You bounce around from place to place

when you're kind of young and getting your footing for that career path. No shit. Like that's expected, but when you're like getting older and you're bouncing around from place to place, it's kind of like, well, why aren't you staying put anywhere for any extended period of time? And you'd go, yeah, I made this much there and I love my job

It's like well, why aren't you there still? Exactly, and it was just always like The whole thing with him being there was so open-ended And he was always telling us when he was applying for other jobs, which uh, I mean correct me if i'm wrong, but that seems a little Irresponsible to be telling your employees that you're on your way out. It will exactly. And then like, like when that, when another job opened up, you're like, yeah, I applied for that. It's like, or like him as my boss, I'm fucking one of the hardest working

like people there and I didn't care what I did. I could be working on sprinklers every day and muddy every day and I wouldn't give a fuck because and then he goes you should apply for this job yeah yeah yeah fuck you basically saying like if you left I wouldn't care yeah I'm like dude I make that what you say to your hardest worker no shit like you know your hardest fucking worker. You should be like a No, how can your hardest fucking worker? What can I give me a plan for a job stay if they apply for a job and they think about taking it you?

Counter them and say I'm willing to pay you more to keep you here No, but if I told him I was applying for a job. He's like see ya You know what I mean like fuck you And it's because you didn't want to be friends with him. And I didn't like who he was as a human being. His whole shtick was, hey, do you want to go like get a drink after work? Which cool. Which is fine, but if I don't want to, then you can't hold that against me at work.

It was like he would invite people to and granted I don't think he had a whole lot of friends which which is sad, but I Don't necessarily more likeable human being well And it's like just because I don't want to be friends with you or do stuff with you outside of work Now now you're holding it against me No, the reason why I never wanted to be his friend is because it kind of felt like a cult Like if you're his friend you're supposed to like worship him and do everything he said, okay I don't know about that and you don't you know, that's no either. No like

Okay. Yeah, that might have been a little far, but that was a little bit of a stretch. Sorry, but like, no, like, the only reason why he wanted to be your friend was for his own good. He literally did it to us. He started out, me and you showed him everything, and then once he got comfortable with his job, it's like... Yeah. Like off, like, and then you... So this guy confides in you, you get him comfortable with his new position, and then now you're just fucking chopped liver to somebody. It's like, that's kind of a low blow.

And then the next week he's like, hey, you guys wanna go out and get a drink? Fuck you. No, I don't wanna go get a fucking drink. And then the one guy we were talking about that kind of did Take him up on that offer and they kind of became close That's the same guy that would start getting the easy jobs. So it's like now you're talking about having someone With there's exterior motives outside of the workplace. You know what? I mean. I don't know they weren't necessarily like doing anything sexual

I mean that was a fucking we don't know that was kind of a joke, but Well, we die because that could get us in trouble for defecation defamation defamation defecation is when you should He always smelled like defecation What I'm trying to say is when there's exterior factors outside of the workplace or influencing Inside the workplace that's when you start getting on a slippery slope and I mean you can come at us if you want but I Don't have any skin I don't I mean I didn't do anything wrong. You're the one that was Like you know what I mean? It's that's why you can't date in the workplace is because you you can

Know literally you can you can date a co-worker, but you do have to like let HR know Like I think I think I think that's typically well how it works Like if you're in an office setting and you start dating a coworker, you kind of have to let it be known so there's no... Everybody knows it's out there. So if people see it, then they're like... Then they understand. Yeah, but...

There's like teachers and stuff that will get together. True, yeah. It's not illegal to data coworker. I think just in certain instances, you have to like tell HR. When you start to make their job easier or That's, yeah. pawn it off to other people, that's when it is.

That can't happen. You're a boss. The biggest moment I have with that was on the driving range. You send him out to teach a guy that has no experience of irrigation work. And they fuck up huge. Like brand new head, brand new swing joint. They fuck it up. What happens they get an easy job while I get sent out to fix their fuck up. No, that's not how you do it. Everything was just ass backwards. Somebody fucks up, you go and fix it. You

don't like just and then they get to take credit for it Like I don't know if they necessarily took credit. Well, we didn't really know what we were doing wasn't given to the rightful It's not like they were like thank you to so-and-so for doing it It was just it was swept under the rug and it's like is no one understanding that like There was multiple times with this guy that I'd be working on irrigation and I needed parts. So wouldn't you just send the guy that's working on it to go get the parts because he knows exactly what he needs or make him write it down.

And then this said guy goes, yeah, I'll run and grab the parts. Okay. I'll take the, I'll take an easy job. And while you're waiting. Technically, if you're the manager, you should be staying on property to oversee things. While you're waiting, why don't you go dig up this hole? Or why don't you go dig up this sprinkler? Yeah. Keeping the heart. Why don't you go dig the fucking sprinkler and I'll go get the fucking part

And you know that is the one thing that my job now is Kind of big about it's like It's like somebody kind of saying no, that's not my job Right. We have we've had that well, it's like I don't want to do that and I'm pulling rank we've had that and It's It's kind of stupid because then again, we're all working for the same project or the same outcome But it's almost as if you have your own agenda where you're trying

to worry about your own needs and you don't care about the greater good of the overall project. You're just worried about making sure you don't have to lift a finger or do anything too hard. Who I am as a human being, I get the utmost satisfaction at finishing a job. It could be something so small, but once I finish it and I can like sit back and look at it, it's awesome. But this said guy would... he's a boss, so he would see something that needs fixing, but it's not really what he wants to do. So if I'm out changing cups, there'd be five holes left. He'd come take over and I would go do that said shitty job to.

And it's like, OK, well, I just got no satisfaction out of that. Well, you didn't get to finish your original job. And it's like. And he did the last bit of it. Yeah, like, you know, let me swing in and do that. It's like a fucking Relay you're running a relay on a track, right? Right? Everybody else has hauled ass around the track to their next person to get you to where you're at. Mm-hmm But that last guy there's a little hiccup. He fucking hauls ass and gets ahead of everybody Who does everybody pray the guy that won the race not the guys that have fucking hauls ass

on at the last 20 meters instead of running the full last hundred. Yeah. And it. Or like if you ran the mile and he took it for the last hundred meters of the last lap and was like, I won. Yeah. Or. This guy that was friends with. I can tell you're getting so worked up about My favorite thing is my favorite actually my favorite favorite moment was Like dragging or blowing after a vertigo, okay dragging

Yeah, like pulling the drag or like after aeration or something dragging sand yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, or like t-boxes, right? This said person Would go finish their job and which one the bigger one of the smaller one the less stinky one Okay up there. Would finish their job. Well, it was I always loved like I didn't want to sit on a motor all day because my ADHD wouldn't allow that but once in a while, you have ADHD. Yeah. That shit courses through my veins.

Sitting on a piece of equipment and just doing that for a day is. We didn't get any days off, so that was my day off, you know, like. There's time we get one day off a weekend, okay? But we're coming into hand water that afternoon. On your day off, what you're saying is your day off is when you got an easy job. Exactly. You got a break.

Like I didn't mind working long hours and long days with no days off, when you throw in that. You sprinkle in an easy job that kinda takes some of the physical stress off your body. Yeah, exactly exactly like oh I can sit on a more for Five hours this afternoon. This is a nice rest. Yeah, exactly my body's getting rested. I'm still working, but my body's getting and Then you're like oh man this nice this easy job so nice

Oh, I'm gonna have him come do that and I'm gonna have you go for you and do it and then you should job Yeah, it's like dude. You've been doing easy jobs all fucking morning fuck off Like I don't want to go dig a hole when it's 110 degrees outside What it really comes down to and we can kind of wrap up the episode with this but what it really comes down to and what it really how I felt about it was just I Don't care what I'm doing or what you're doing as long as it's fair.

Exactly. As long as the workload is evenly distributed. There's going to be people out there that would be like, don't be such a bitch. Well, you know what? Technically speaking, if you're in a managerial position, you don't physically have to do as much work because they're paying you for your brain and your overseeing skills. But at least for the workers, it is refreshing, though, like as a boss, you don't have to do it. But your workers are going to respect you a lot more if you do pitch in physically. But your workers are going to respect you a lot more if you do pitch in physically

but what I'm saying is As long as everything is fair Then no one has any ground to stand on as far as well How come he gets to do that and I have to do this if everyone is doing the same amount of work Yeah, then everyone can it's like it's like going through an ordeal together. You'll come out bonded and stronger as a unit on the other side if you all go through something hard together. Well, and-

It's like a football team. If you all work your asses off at practice, then when you get done, you can all be like, that was hard, but I'm glad we're all done and we did it together. You remember when it was like fucking 120 and 115? You mean like every year? No, that one year that it was like real bad.

Yeah, yeah I do. And we were hand watering. And they're like, yeah, come in, fine. You know, come in, hang out. The first days it was fine. And then the days after that it was like, why are you guys in here? It's like, you literally told us to come in here. Yeah, and then towards the end it kind of started being like There's times to chew ass and then there's times like yeah, I know this fucking sucks. I'm sorry

we got to do it, but we got to do it and Then that started to happen in that moment. It was like Even those two guys that I fucking despise were out there with you. It's like I know it's fucking hard But let's just fucking get through it and it's like the same thing. Everybody's working at us as I Would have held more respect for them if they pitched in more exactly. It's What I'm saying is and there's so much to take from this conversation into actual life, fuck, even now, I married now,

it's like sometimes you think about that shit and it's like, okay, well, it happens around our house. Bailey, sometimes she doesn't have any clients so she comes home and she's cleaning the entire house and does a lot. Well I've just been out working in the heat and then I come home and I'm like fuck I'm tired I just wanna lay on the couch and go to sleep.

But then you look back to those moments and you're like I'm doing the same shit they did. Just because I had a rough day or something like that I could help pitch in a little bit. Even a little bit counts. Right. But just don't let it be one sided in anything I guess. Or something like that. I could help pitch in a little bit even a little bit counts, right? but just don't let it be one-sided in anything I guess and There was always gonna be shitty people in the world and now I just don't give a fuck

But Until next time thank you guys all for watching. That was a great episode first episode We might do another one later a little bit more. We might bank four or three I don't know because this is pretty fun to sit pretty easy Wish we could get paid for this. Um, but yeah if we end up deleting this episode, it's because we were sued for defamation But hopefully hopefully that doesn't or defecation. Hope it doesn't happen tick-tock Or I mean Spotify and Apple pock. I mean we do have a tick-tock Spotify and Apple podcasts for audio only subscribe on YouTube all that bullshit Go over to tick-tock. Yeah, we got a we got a tick-tock account post and Jake's been kind of holding some shit down

I've been gone and what came spending Antarctica. I've been holding shit down Okay, I'm spending Antarctica. I've been holding shit down Yep, yeah anything you want to say to the folks? I mean your name is still like I put your shit in the description for all the episode still but I'm not gone I actually you a grass Eddie. I actually Forgot the last time I was in Lincoln. We got the shit so I could record and just the other day I looked at me like I still need to get that and Billy goes you fucking bought it yeah you have the shit to record I'm like fuck so we're still gonna work on

getting cam set up so we can do like remote recording sessions I don't know how it'll work we're still figuring out how to get the we wouldn't we 100% could get the audio up I don't know about the first couple times it might just be audio only but we'll see At least we're it would be easy to just throw in a couple episodes right here and there so Yeah, but hope you guys all enjoyed that episode. Yeah, I hope you all Enjoyed that listen to it Ruger you got anything to add thank you until next time if you all pull in the

same direction you'll come out a better unit on the other side exactly keep your shoes tight kid