Grubstakers - Ep 251 Klaus Schwab And The World Economic Forum Featuring John F. O'Donnell

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

This week the boys sit down with John F. O'Donnell to chat about O.G. (Old German) Klaus Schwab. You heard of DAVOS? Dat's dis dude. If you thought we talked a big conspiracy game in our last episode dear listeners, then buckle up. We're about to drop some red hot William Gibson shit in your lap today. Oh and Greta Thunberg says hi! She's not on the show, she just seems nice so I imagine she would say hi to you, as she distracts you from the assimilation. We use this article as a really great reference in the episode, so here is the hot sauce. https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab-and-his-great-fascist-reset/ You can find John on Instagram or Twitter @therealjfod You can also check out his podcast "Take Your Pills, Psychopath!" http://takeyourpillspod.com

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andy palmer steve jeffers so we've done a few episodes uh now about the ongoing covet 19 pandemic but i think the best way for a podcast about billionaires to approach this topic is to look at what do these billionaires who mostly run our world, what do they say they want to do in response to the COVID-19 pandemic? And to do that, we're going to look at the World Economic Forum today. It's a meeting group of the wealthy, of politicians, of influential businessmen who are, they're most famous for their annual get together at Davos every January. And we want to talk a bit about the history of the World Economic Forum, but also what

these people mean when they throw around terms like the Great Reset, the Fourth Industrial Revolution, and the New Normal after COVID. And joining us to do that is a very funny stand-up comedian. He hosts the Live from Outer Space stand-up show at Cobra Club in Bushwick every Friday night. And he's the host of the podcast Take Your Pills Psychopath, which uses comedy to talk about mental health. John F. O'Donnell, thank you for being here. Yeah, thank you guys for having me. I'm psyched. I appreciate it. Yeah. And so you're the one who suggested this topic to us initially. So my first question to you is just what got you interested in the World Economic Forum? Because that sounds really fucking boring, doesn't it? Yeah. And I think that I've been maybe

boring you by talking to you about it at bars for about two or three months. But but yeah, I I've been talking Sean Zero off about this. OK, the way that I first found out about this, I think it was some I think it was on Twitter and somebody was tweeting about event 201. Right. So I was like, what is this event 201? Because they were saying like, oh, you know, in October of 2019 in New York City, there was a simulation of a Corona novel coronavirus pandemic that was done by all of these different world leaders. And I was like, wait, what? It's very conspiratorial, but I need to look into it. And then I found out that Event 201 is a real thing. It happened on October 19th in New York City. It was the World Economic Forum in conjunction with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Well, why not? In conjunction with John Hopkins Department of Health Security. Why not? Sure. United Nations World Health Organization, prominent members of academia and the media, world leaders and CEOs of multinational corporations. They all got together and they did this simulation. And then a couple months later, there was a pandemic. And the guy, Klaus Schwab, who's in charge of the World Economic Forum,

he then came out with a book in July of 2020 called COVID-19, The Great Reset, about what the post-p post pandemic world would look like so it's like they're begging you to be conspiratorial about this thing well it sounds like uh thanks to their hard work there with that simulation you know we had such a confident response uh once once COVID hit New York that's right yeah they really nailed it yeah I think because they probably more than actually trying to figure out what to do to take care of people. We're trying to figure out how to profit off of it. It is something where it's like I've noticed my brain is kind of overloaded on conspiracies now where I'm like, I don't want any more.

I'm just like, I want I want to believe what you're telling me. So, you know, so it's like I came into this episode as much as possible, like not to be conspiratorial. But it's just like you read that. So March 2020, we have the lockdowns. By July, like three months later, this guy has a book on COVID-19 out. I guess I couldn't

write a book in three months, but maybe this guy just works so much harder than me. Wait, I got a new one for you. Apple is making a phone app to find child porn so that Tim Cook can build out his child porn collection. I believe it. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

And it's like, look, I don't want to be conspiratorial about Event 201, but it's hard not to be when it's like all of these people who are the ones who are now dealing with, I guess it makes sense. I guess it makes sense. If you're the ones that are dealing with the global pandemic,

you should probably map out and dealing with the global pandemic, you should probably map out and game out a global pandemic ahead of time. But it's just something seems so dicey about it because this group seems to be hiding in plain sight. Like, I didn't know Event 201 was happening. So many people I know don't know about it. And it seems like it's definitely worth investigating. So you said Event 201 one that was October 2019. Yeah. OK. And then March 2020 is when the lockdowns in the U.S. start.

Yeah. But the pandemic or the endemic happened, you know, a month or so later in China. Right. You know, it's also interesting. Like we talked about this on our anthrax attacks episode. They had Operation Dark dark winter which was uh like early in the early 2001 in the bush administration they did like a biological weapons attack simulation with like judith miller of the new york times participated and like some other you know prominent people uh and one of them was of course the scenario of the anthrax attack and then later and so it's like yeah yeah, I don't know. I think these people are just like dabbing on us. They're just like trying to make you go insane.

Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go all the way down the rabbit hole, even though I have because so first I found that's how I initially found out about the World Economic Forum was through this thing event 201. Then I found out all about how they're into the fourth industrial revolution and the great reset and all of this sort of stuff. And I was like, this group is crazy. And then I was like, oh, these are the people

that set up the meeting in Davos every year. Like I didn't realize that that's who they were. And I didn't realize how powerful this group was, yet they have this weird type of power where they don't have any sort of mandate. Like they're not a corporation or they're not voted into power, like any sort of government or anything like that.

They just create a sort of liaison situation to put like world leaders and multinational corporations together. They're sort of like these matchmakers. And while they do that, they try to push their agenda, which is trans humanism, which is the merging of man and machine. Do I sound conspiratorial yet, Sean? I like to imagine in their initial planning meetings, they're like, well, what if we call

it like the the plandemic false flag planning group? We got to get a more boring world economic form. Nobody's going to pay attention their eyes glaze over as soon as they hear that you know we'll be fine yeah john how'd you find out about 201 again i i honestly i just saw somebody tweet about it that's wild is like i was doing research for this episode i found something called like neem 2003 and it was about like riots in indonesia and stuff and like random tweets and comments on YouTube are the only way I learned these days. Like the more obscure the person being like, someone should go check this out.

I'm like, this is 100% got to be something that's going to keep me up for eight hours now. Yeah, Twitter is the only place you can find the truth. And you know it because my account is there. Yeah, I've found some interesting stuff in YouTube comments as well, you know? Yeah, when comments are deleted, this is what they rob from us. A way for us to learn.

We were talking before we started, like the World Economic Forum, like all of their YouTube comments are like, the people are aware. They're waking up. We're breaking the conditioning. There is a contingency of people who definitely know that this is a nefarious group that is trying to take over the world's resources for their own evil machinations and they comment on all of these

videos like if you anybody that's listening just go to world economic forum videos on youtube and just read the comments it is just so so funny people do know but just nobody i know besides you guys now they care about democracy so much they leave the comments open. That's right. That's right. Unmoderated. Unmoderated. You're right.

That's part of their stakeholder capitalism mentality. Going back to what John was saying, though, like it isn't a group of people that are elected or it's just a clubhouse of the most richest people in the world. And I think it's about a thousand corporations. We'll get more into the finer details of the group but like regardless of any conspiracy that you're gleaning from this the fact that the most powerful people in the world meet and just talk about shit should bother everyone right there's no situation where none of the richest people in the world they're just going to talk about what the future should hold shouldn't terrify everyone that's not a part of

that group and we're going to get into it more. But, you know, the World Economic Forum, of course, they talk about the covid-19 response. They talk about response to climate change. And, you know, sometimes they sound really swell and progressive when they talk about those things. But when you just at a basic level, this is a meeting group of the richest and most powerful people on Earth. They're always going to talk about responses to those problems in ways that preserve their own power. They're not going to like get together and say, oh, we have to like get rid of all our wealth to solve climate change. No, they're going to say we have to solve climate change. How do we do it while preserving our wealth? Yeah. Yeah. And and in addition to that, they are oftentimes the corporations who have caused this environmental degradation. So we

can't rely on them to be the ones to fix it. But what they actually want to do is just create new markets in the name of the environment in order to create profit. And that's part of the fourth industrial revolution. You know how they book that climate teenager who rides sailboats? What's her name? Greta. Greta Thunberg.

Like you think like when they book her, it's just sort of like when you book a comedian to like roast your company event. It shows they're good sports about it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm I'm convinced that she is just and yet at the same time, nothing gets done. It's literally like Captain Planet being like, the future is in your hands, children. And it's like, what? That's going to do nothing. How dare you announce Event 201. And she creates such a fatal fatalistic version of everything too well and i'll be a piece of shit here but her voice makes it seem like europe is working on the problem you know what i mean and like from all the research i've done on this show it's like literally every uh nordic german all

those kind of fuck all of them because like all of the worst crimes in humanity are linked to uh to europe and uh as an indian person fuck them which ones what is this you speak of what a whole fucking list bruh but i mean like it is something where i do think she like represents like no no no no the good whites are working on it because you know even in researching this episode everyone in this group is like criminally aware that like we are robbing everyone and yet they the openness to be like but they'll never catch us in the act it's like you're watching oceans 11 while it's happening you know but instead of a crime that is robbing casino it's just robbing the world of its

rights in the future yeah and and we're going to give uh kind of a basic history and an overview of the world economic forum and its founder klaus schwab but uh i'll just kind of a basic history and an overview of the World Economic Forum and its founder Klaus Schwab, but I'll just kind of start with a couple basic facts so that people who haven't heard of this have a bit of a grounding here. The World Economic Forum was founded in Switzerland on 1971

by, of course, Klaus Schwab. As Yogi mentioned earlier, it's an international foundation. It's mostly funded by its 1,000-member companies, but it also gets public subsidies from the government of Switzerland, which is funny because Klaus Schwab, while talking about how CEO pay is too high, he takes home more than a million euros a year for doing this. Apparently, the financial statements the World Economic Forum releases

do not break down expenses by category. So you just have no idea what they're doing with the money they take in. Yeah, his cousin not as successful, Les Schwab. Way Les Schwab. And so, you know, a lot of people probably heard about Davos. Again, every January, a mountain resort near the Alps. You know, some 3,000 paying members and selected participants. They get together for five days.

They discuss global issues across 500 sessions. And it's always, I mean, it's an easy joke, but it is true that all these people fly there in private jets to talk about climate change. Yeah, I found out when we were doing,

I don't know what research I was doing, but Bill Gates pays $14 million in, what is it called, the climate, the carbon tax or whatever. For him to fly on a private jet all the time. He purchases offsets. Right, the offsets, that's what it is. He pays $14 million a year. And it's like, what?

That's fucking nothing. Stop flying around, Bill. And then Klaus Schwab himself, he's just a German engineer and economist born in 1938. He got a master's of public administration from the Harvard School of Government. And he says that in 1967, while at Harvard, he met Henry Kissinger and began what he calls a, quote, 50 year long mentorship by Henry Kissinger. And I don't know about the rest of you, but I always trust a guy whose self-described mentor is the most notorious living war criminal in the United States. Yeah. The person probably with his finger in the most genocides. But isn't that amazing that like Klaus is sort of just skated under the radar.

Oh yeah. I mean, yeah. Henry Kissinger is a household name known as a war criminal. Can't go to certain countries. Right. Yes. But Klaus... Oh, don't forget, Sean. Klaus was born in 1938, like you said.

So he is a child of Adolf Hitler's Germany. Yes. Don't hold it against him. Yeah. Unfortunately, a couple of American bomber pilots missed the assignment there, but... He can go back in time and kill a baby.

But you don't have to believe us. You can hear it from the horse's mouth himself. We have a drop here, an audio drop of Klaus Schwab talking about Henry Kissinger and their relationship at Harvard. Yes, there was one course, one seminar of

Henry Kissinger, which really opened my eyes. I wasn't accepted to the seminar, but I sat in. I think he let me in because I was German. And it was relatively shortly after the war, so there were not too many Germans here. And this created a friendship which has endured until today. And you know, Henry has been several times in Davos. And I think it was mainly participating in his seminars

that I developed my interest for geopolitical affairs. It's funny, because if you meet a German now, they don't sound like this. It's like he turned on Hogan's Heroes, heard Colonel Klinken's, like, that's how you speak English. And you know, it's like, we're dissing

Klaus Schwab here, but who's ever heard of a bad person with a German accent? No. He's like playing the role as a super villain that's why it's all so hard for me not to see it all conspiratorially you know it'd be so funny if like the fucking illuminati got together like look the guy we put at the top of this he's got to have the most ridiculous german accent we gotta really fuck with these people just like it feels like they're fucking with us yeah oh you know what i learned is uh there's like some X-Files ripoff show and that had like

they only lasted one season, but they had an episode in like March either 2000 or 2001, which was like literally 9-11 is a false flag where it's like the concept is, you know, some New World Order CIA guys, they like hijack planes and then use drones and plan to blame it on some Middle Eastern terrorist group when they fly it into the World Trade Center. But the difference between real life is they stopped them. But yeah, no, it's just like, yeah, the New World Order, they get their script writers out there just to make us all insane. The other thing about this guy's voice is,

I'll sometimes watch the videos for the show in two times speed, but with this guy, voice is like you like I also sometimes watch the videos for the show like in two times speed. But with this guy, if you watch it like that, you literally start having your brain melt. Like you can't listen to him speak faster than he does. It just yeah. Slow this down. I cannot I cannot be bothered. I turned on one of his like hour long lectures and like I was listening like intently for a while. But then I just kind of relaxed and let the sounds kind of hit me.

And like my vision started to vibrate with like image, images of a world order between NGOs and, and, uh, isn't it weird how he says so much and nothing at the same time. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's a skill.

It is. It's just like platitudes just rolling over you. You just have to let it wash over you. Yeah. So you can experience his ideas. When you watch him,

it reminds me of that Apple commercial where the lady runs in and throws the hammer. Like what's playing on the screen, I don't know if you remember that, but it's just like a giant head that's like,

we want to talk to you and everything will be done. Like it just feels like, I guess I'm tolerating this in my life now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember i remember that commercial you know if you play his speeches uh four times speed but also backwards it'll actually become adult hitler speeches but anyway so uh steve did a bit of research on kind of the general history of the world economic forum so uh he'll share a bit of that with us,

and then we'll tell you what they say they mean when they use these terms like Fourth Industrial Revolution and Great Reset and such. So as Sean mentioned, it was started in 1971, and it was initially called the European Management Forum from 1971 to 1973. European management. What has ever gone wrong with that right and so it was there were no world leaders there for the first few years uh it was just like prominent business leaders from western europe mostly uh meeting to discuss like supply chain management and stuff like that no Oh, prominent business leaders from Western Europe. I'm wondering where

some of them got their start. It was the reunion group for everybody who made money at Auschwitz, basically. Everybody who had a stake in the slave labor camp over there. Keynote speech from the guy who invented Cyclone Beach. Oh, man.

You guys are not wrong. It wasn't until 1973 that it got more attention after meeting a couple times. Nowadays, they have a thousand, like we said, multinational corporation sponsors, etc. But first they started out with the European Commission, like the EU governing body, let them host their conference in

davos not not where they are now in davios but in like a different place and it was kind of a small thing but in 1973 it got more attention because there were two events namely the collapse of the bretton woods system of fixed exchange rates and then also the beginning of the first oil shock and so these became like really like geopolitical issues that um caught klaus schwab's attention and he was able to like get a few world leaders there who were like suffering like supply chain shocks from from the oil right don't let any good disaster go to waste no crisis go go to waste. Yeah. Well, it's a good marketing opportunity. Right. From this Harvard thing that came out six months ago, he talks about the first one where he like he borrowed money to do it. And the guy he borrowed

it from said that if you fail, you have to come work for my company for three years. And it made him so much money that he was able to not only pay that guy back, but then also start a conference because at that time it would only cost 50,000 euros. And he made 49,000. So from the first one, he had made like enough to pay that guy back as well as 49,000 euros. So I don't know exactly how he's making money from this whole thing. But the man had a network from being Kissinger's stooge to fund this thing pretty well, even early on. Also, apparently it was funded by one of the world's worst businessmen. It's like, yeah, if this is a complete financial disaster, I want you to work for me.

You're the type of man I want. If you can't get this off the ground, I want you to manage my business. But it's like, I mean, we see that again and again with like, you know, monopoly capitalism, they have every incentive to set up cartels to coordinate their interests.

You know, the rich have class interests, but they have every reason to get together and coordinate their class interests. So I guess this guy's innovation was just like, at first, like, let me get all the Europeans of my my class together you know throughout europe throughout the eu

uh and we'll coordinate and then eventually they expanded and they went global where the the elites they're not just europe they're the elites from really everywhere that believes in uh let's say global multinational capitalism yeah you got to. Yeah, you got to start someplace, man. You got to start small when you're the protege of Kissinger. You can't do a world economic forum. It's got to be just Europe for a few years. Yeah, it's like Klaus Schwab posts one of those Instagram memes, like, if you weren't with me when I was grinding,

don't expect to be with me when I'm shining. You got to bomb the Mekong Delta before you can bomb Cambodia and Laos. Also, real quick, when he was setting up the first conference, he had no experience doing that. So he put an ad out in the paper for like, hey, can someone help me set up a conference? And one person applied. That was a woman named Hilde, who he would eventually marry. She said she spoke four languages, and she was a babe. You look at the photos.

So for that and that alone, I think Klaus eats butt. I think that Klaus is down with the brown, if you know what I mean. We all agreed that Henry Kissinger and Klaus Schwab were definitely cleaning up posts back in the day. Yeah, but I was not happy about it. You know, chick stick jerks.

That's right. Chick stick jerks. And those guys are big time jerks. Oh, yeah. I said it. John, slow down. Gosh, what do women even see when these guys who have like private jet flights to Switzerland every year and can go on vacation whenever they want? I don't get it.

So in 1973, at that same meeting where they were like stressing over what to do about the oil shock they also agreed on this thing called the davos manifesto which is like a statement of um what would later be called his stakeholder capitalism theory they're like yeah we got to cross out that word national socialist manifesto on the top and then Davos. Germans writing manifestos. They love it. It's a great way to kick off. Cross out final solution. Stakeholder capitalism.

That sounds better. Yeah, that sounds real nice. One of those innocuous things that just rolls right over you. And that was very much something Klaus was into even before he started the WEF. Because in 1971, before the first meeting, he and one of his undergraduate classmates wrote this industrial organization type paper called Modern Untermenschführung im Maschenbau. I heard Untermensch. Modern Enterprise Management in Mechanical Engineering.

And it was drawing, it's believed, it's claimed by him and a few other people to be the first use of the term stakeholder capitalism. And other evil fucks basically say, no, I did it first. But yeah, so he thinks he invented that. And it's built off this even older thing called stakeholder theory, which whether capitalist or something else,

it just means we can group all the constituents in society into a couple different groups based on layers of society. And if they work together, things will go smoother. That's how we're going to beat the ruling class, constituents in society into a couple different groups based on layers of society and that they work together things will go smoother that's how we're going to beat the ruling class is we just get them to all send hitmen after each other when arguing about who invented the term stakeholder capitalism yeah so like they took uh i don't want to say that like it was his school thesis, but it was when he was a young blood to make a name for himself in the Bilderberg pipeline. Oh, and also, I mentioned Bilderberg.

Bilderberg is a little like Davos if Davos wasn't public. Sure, yeah. It's the private school to Davos' public school, yeah. And part of his vision for what Davos would be, it's like, well, it's going to be like Bilderberg, except we're going to... It's open to the public, at least parts of it. Sure.

And it will involve world leaders and stuff out in the open saying, we want this and that, instead of like some smoky smoke filled room right right yeah it's like bilderberg with like a boy with like a public middle finger oh yeah yeah very out there and that really does make sense though because you know obviously uh bilderberg is the subject of numerous conspiracies some of which are accurate some of which are not but the world economic forum not. But the World Economic Forum, I mean, you know, yeah, it has gotten a bit of pushback, but it's not really looked at in the same kind of like shadowy smoke filled room kind of way, because they, you know, even though they have private sessions there, they do enough of it out in the open that people are like, well, you know, all these respectable leaders of our community are there and they're getting together and they're out in the open and they have sessions that we can see. It's just like a way it's, it's, it's, I have to admit, it is smart of him to essentially say like, there's going to be too much public hostility.

If all of these meetings are behind closed doors, we have to like put out a public face for what we're doing here. Yeah. And I think, I personally think it makes them more insidious i think they have amazing marketing they have crazy reach in media and stuff like that they've captured academia they're all over the place and they're giving the general public enough of a forward-facing um amount of content to sort of allow for their behind the scenes stuff to go on yeah yeah john weren't you telling us before we started recording that, like the Lilly Singh show had like some like, Oh,

it's the Davos roundup highlights y'all or whatever. Yeah. Lilly Singh, late night talk show host was doing the Davos daily where with like slick graphics and everything like that, she was just sewing sound bites and video clips of what was going on in Davos. Like this was awesome. And she even said something that was so patronizing to the listener. She was like, I know sometimes

with all these big issues, it's really hard to understand what's going on, you know, but it's really good that we got folks like my girl Greta, Greta Thunberg here, just like taking care of it for us. Thank you so much. It was unbelievable. It was like I'm working on a satire web series making fun of those people and that piece that was being presented was being presented without any satire. It was crazy. Who's ready for some ruling class propaganda

y'all? Pretty much. They roast close. Everything that they're highlighting in those videos, it's like two doors down the hallway in a closed room session. They're like, all right. So we mix in the expired prisoners into the hamburgers and the prions will take care of the excess population. Yeah.

Klaus is like, look, if the public sessions are too stressful, you can always duck out to the back and get some Adrenochrome. Keep it in the fridge well i don't know if they want to kill us all so much as they want to create new markets for and use us as those new markets yeah there's something called human capital markets and social impact bonds and stuff like that that basically we are the new markets. Yeah. It's one of those things where if you got, you know, German fucks talking about the future, you are the guinea pig in that situation. They want to use what you are as an example of the experiment of what people tomorrow

should be like. Ultimately, it just, it seems like they're working towards and have already largely built a system just where the vast majority of the population serves the people at the top like you know they call it the service economy but it's you know that's more or less what it is and you know what it's been for millennia yeah so a couple years after that, the 1973 Davos conference was apparently so lit that two years later they eventually got their sponsorship deal with up to a thousand leading companies in the world. European Management Forum was sort of the first non-governmental institution to initiate a partnership with, for example, China's Economic Development Commissions, spurring economic reforms in China. And like he was doing stuff on that level now. I'm not sure if this is right, but I'm pretty sure in 73 is the first time Prince

Charles goes to it. And I think that this whole a thousand corporation things directly comes from the thousand and one club that we talked about in our WWF series where it was a thousand people giving them ten grand to enter the WWF like gold club to then it's a similar version of this really but in WWF it's we're

doing environmentalism right when really it's just neocolonialism. And in this, it's just you can buy into what the future is going to be. Yeah. You can buy access. Yeah. You can buy world, like multinational corporations can buy access to world leaders.

If you want to be a part of the future, buy in. And for better or worse, it developed this reputation of being like a place where world leaders can meet with everybody and resolve their disputes and shit in a semi-public fashion yeah i'd almost argue that the davos um meetings are them just hanging out like everything else gets done behind closed doors when they're at where they're working or whatever and davos is just like oh yeah that guy I remember him let's go fuck up the world together yeah like the Davos forum

kind of got standardized in terms of its structure after about 1974 so like between 74 and 87 when it did another reorg it was like there would be a big public forum with a keynote speech typically by uh klaus and then a

couple other like thought leaders and he would he would talk about stakeholder capitalism for a while and then other people would bring up the leading business concerns of the day such as like brett and woods or some shit klaus does his speech and he's like, he doesn't mention the Great Reset and then the people are chanting, Encore! Encore! Encore! It comes back out, Fourth Industrial Revolution! Transhumanism! You're gonna be cyborgs! We will own you! Woo!

Also, we need to have the Great Reset! Woo! You think he's just like He didn't play the hits? You think he's just like out there taking a the hits you think he's just like out there like taking a bullet by giving the boring speech for like people who are watching kind of zone out and not notice like prince andrew walking off to a back room yeah you know what i feel like that's that's like more accurate than you think yeah i really think he is this he is just this figurehead that just

says this on-brand message while you know while the powers that be are just doing their thing well i wasn't even joking earlier when i said like being able to communicate in these just absolute platitudes it is a skill like this is why thomas friedman makes a million dollars a year if you can just like you know say talk for a while without saying anything. What are you describing, the show guy? Yeah. Well, so he used, yeah, so it would be like a public forum like that, and there would be little breakout sessions, which were typically not public,

where they would do more in-depth discussions of business concerns and stuff. But in the public one, klaus would often use that keynote kind of as a bully pulpit pulpit for his like his main ideas of stakeholder capitalism how it's better than this other thing called shareholder capitalism which was this milden friedman idea that says that uh company's only responsibility is to maximize shareholder value by maximizing their profit and in his eyes that's how you get the stock price up basically and and klaus was like no that's too cruel basically we need to get all these different constituency groups like governments ngos and um civil society organizations he calls them

together and each of them will have a stake in decision making process at places like davos he doesn't say exactly these words but he's saying like basically this workers won't revolt if we do this because he said we were in danger of it's too this is unsustainable for workers for how we deal with the lower class and also environmentally. Like eventually it became more of an environmental thing. I think that it's very simple to say a boss and owner of a company can be overwhelmed by the workers, but if he's working with everyone else above him and around him, then there's no chance for the workers to unite. It got kind of a cool reception for the most part in like the first decade or so of when

he was at it writing about this and stuff but eventually much later i feel like stakeholder capitalism kind of came back like in the obama years yeah and it kind of that language about like the international community in air quotes um coming together to rule for the benefit of all, basically, in terms of stakeholders and shit, came back with the globalization of the early 21st century. But prior to that, though, it was him just kind of working his shit out in front of the audience. Yeah, yeah.

And with no warm-up. I think it's very simple. I think it's just a silly trick to make everybody feel like they're part of the team while they're being exploited. It's basically like if you're working at a company or something like that and they're exploiting you, but they're making you feel like you're working with them to build something as part of their team, that's what stakeholder capitalism is. Yeah.

Well, and also like kind of the popularity of the Davos crowd or this particular, let's say, philosophy among the ruling elites, in my opinion, reflects the collapse of neoliberal legitimacy where you have Klaus Schwab talking. I mean, in his writings, he is very concerned about class conflict. He's concerned about the possibility that technology will exacerbate class conflict. And so, you know, we see that. And obviously the ruling class, or at least a faction of the ruling class, they're going to get together and say, what do we do about this? What do we make sure we're doing to keep our system going? Well, it's as simple as you're not a slave, you're family. Like, you can't turn on your family. I'm not just your boss, I'm your friend. And that, you know, it's such a simple trick of language, but it does make it go from, I'm not just your boss. I'm your friend. And that, you know, it's such a simple

trick of language, but it does make it go from, I'm not being exploited. I'm a team member. And that, you know, if everyone's friends, no one's mad, right? It's like, well, kind of stealing my life. Yeah. It seems like a last ditch effort for them to maintain their power structure. All of it is certainly about how do we make sure the status quo continues? We might not be able to get more, but if we can maintain, I mean, they want more. Let's not, let's not kid ourselves here. They want more control when it comes to people in the world, but if they can't get it, this much can, can be good enough for the future. And I think the, given the historical events of their days, they were, they had good reason to be frightened and try to say we need to actually

change how we operate and uh throw a bone so to speak ideologically to the people because in like 1969 like france was like revolting right and uh 73 74 the oil shock led to uh strikes in the u.s from u.s steel and other groups for groups to raise their wages in response to inflation. Things of that nature were going on. And I think climate change is one of the few things that's perfect for them to rebrand as we're the good guys. Because it literally is, hey, I'm not stabbing you, I'm putting a Band-Aid on the wound.

Like, it's like, what? That is not solving the fucking problem. I think it's both climate change and pandemics moving forward. They can use them and they can even say that those two things are acting in a feedback loop with each other. And use that as a way to try to push through their systems of control. So in 1987, they were up to this point, I should say, they were still called the European Management Forum. But then in 1987, they changed into the the European Management Forum. But then in 1987 they changed into the World Economic Forum. Oh, rebrand 1987.

Went from Coke Classic to New Coke. Since that time there's been the World Economic Davos Forum every year. Pretty much the same format. Klaus Schwab wakes up and be like, man I did so much fucking blow last night. Did I rename the fucking European

management forum? Are we now the world economic forum? Too high to die, baby. It's just like shit. Doing lines in a bathroom with somebody like, no, no, no. It's not about Europe, man. It's about the world. Too high to die. Yeah.

To that, I don't know so since that time it i think their history can be summed up in like the history of ideas about like things we'll get into like the i got this idea of the fourth fourth industrial revolution the great reset stakeholder capitalism those things are all kind of percolating each year as they deal with world events like the collapse of the soviet union was like a huge thing for two separate offices yeah and uh which we've done episodes on so after like the collapse of the soviet union um and their discussions there and try to privatize soviet union which we've done those some a couple episodes on check those out uh in starting in the 90s i would say they start to really care about um environmental sustainability which is um continued into the 2000s after al gore's documentary bild Bilderberg person there.

He's been to Davos too. They have this they started developing this framework for investment actually called Environmental Sustainable Governance or ESG. ESG, nobody really cared about it up until probably five years ago outside of groups that were very closely connected to Davos and to the Bilderbergs and other things like that.

But nowadays, investment research companies like Morningstar and other groups like that, they incorporate ESG into their models to say like, oh, how good is a company as an investment? Do they care about environmental sustainable governance? And what that actually means is like, to the extent that they feasibly can while remaining profitable, they still can change their processes, less emissions, and there's like more inclusive boardrooms

and stuff like that. The beginnings of kind of woke capitalism are percolating with this theory. Where like if you get enough, if you make the boardroom more diverse in terms of racial, ethnic, and gender background, et cetera, and like you care about the environment, the corporation will serve people better.

Yeah, so like nowadays, ESG, they've measured how much esg actually matters in terms of the their return on investment and it never really did up until like 2017 or so but it's starting to catch on and they're like it's becoming like a force in the world actually for better or worse i don't know so the greenwashing is making a lot of money for people. It's starting to. That makes sense. It's like any startup. The first few years, you're not going to make money.

But then once people start really understanding the concept. Yeah, so it's... Fortunately, though, I mean, it is stopping climate change in its tracks. So those are the ESG's, Environmental Sustainability Goals, right? No, that's the DSG. The United Nations has their DSGs, which are the Developmental Sustainability Goals. Dick-sucking game.

Yeah, that's the UN one. And then Environmental Sustainable Governance Investing is the other one. And then environmental sustainable governance investing is the other one that Davos popularized. But now the World Economic Forum people, they are taking the lead on those UN sustainability goals. It's wrapped up in their works and stuff like that now. That's how powerful this group is. Yeah, they're working with UN groups to like to to popularize that too so could you

argue that like the wef like builds a foundation for what they think the future is and then kind of makes everyone subscribe to said idea because i think it's very ideological it's like it's not it's it's called an economic forum but you should just throw that out and it's a place where they build the ideology to guide business leaders for the future that and like to keep them more because like capitalists can disagree with each other all the time and they don't they just go their own way or they could cooperate as a group and continue to dominate and they groom people too like they have a whole global youth leaders program and stuff like that. At the beginning of that Harvard piece, he asks the people that are the youth leaders from Harvard

to stand up. And so it's, it's not just like a group that's the most powerful people. It's also a pipeline. So it's recruiting for them as well as doing their bidding. Yeah. They determine who the exceptional people are and then put them in positions of unelected power. That's right. With no democratic oversight. And they view themselves as superior to shareholder capitalism because, well, that was just barbaric. But really, they're equally as undemocratic.

Right, right. They're the same in that regard yeah but they're just throwing this bone they've created this facade that they actually care about what yeah there's no there's no worker control there's no worker ownership there's no democracy so that's the same between shareholder capitalism right and it seems like and i'll get a couple pull quotes here in a minute, but it seems like, if anything, Klaus Schwab and his cohort there, they very much hate democracy because the various individual nation-state democracies, flawed as they are, do represent, let's say, a stopgap,

a potential break on whatever they want to do. You know, if the people in whatever country say no we don't want to become cyborgs and work for you and you know we don't want you to like put a chip in us that you can shut it down when we disobey you and we just turn people's money off exactly yeah it's like we laugh about this shit but they really are working towards it. No, they do want these things. I think I've talked about this. In Revelations, that is like the actual mark of the beast, is the idea that they will give you a mark of the beast, and then that they will ban all money, all cash money,

and you will use the mark of the beast to buy and sell goods, and if you disobey they will you will starve they will turn it off and like so that's like a lot of you know quote-unquote conspiracies are the fact that some of these people seem to be suggesting something very close to that is is a little disturbing yeah like is that their fucking source material what's interesting about that is that revelations was kind of written as a response to the roman destroy destruction of jerusalem right and so and i mean i i haven't really looked into that uh too much but also like what was it slaves were

often tattooed or branded oh that makes sense yeah um so there's probably an element of that also feeding into that it's so great great to open Revelations and be like, yo, the devil fucking rocks, dude. Let's do this shit. If there's anyone that thinks that, it's fucking Klaus. Inspiration for Klaus's first book. Right, right. Well, these people want global governance.

You know what I mean? So you're right. The nation state, the sovereign nation state the uh the sovereign nation state is a threat to what they want because they need their sort of uh agenda to happen in a global capacity in order for it to work but governance also makes it feel though as if they are elected because it's not the case it's their their no we it's us and it's the rich boys we don't fucking care who you are if you got money come on in well they try to they when they started the economic forum they're like okay the world is it's they're very conscious about this

in some papers where they're like the world is still governed by nation states but it cannot be for long because it's unsustainable for the reason to be laid out and so we need to make it we need to shape the ideology such that the nation states are just one player alongside the multinational corporations and ngos and stuff like that and this is interesting because i think this kind of fits into like uh some of let's say the left not uh really being uh engaged in this or like uh dismissive of it or whatever is because like you know of course the the the saying of marx is workers of the world unite we do believe in internationalism but we believe in internationalism of the workers internationalism of the ruling class is extremely scary and very dangerous when they're talking about ripping away the kind of minimal

democratic protections that we have within the nation state and saying, like, no, there's actually going to be a body at Davos that overrides the supranational institutions that override the nation states. The ultimate centralization of power. Right. And you even see that, obviously, with like, you know, NAFTA, the World Trade Organization, the IMF, these these supranational institutions do exist to remove, I would argue, the European Union. They remove sovereignty from the nation states that are within them. You know, Greece can't have a monetary policy because the European Union controls it. I was just going to say that when you brought that up, yeah.

And their very first sponsor, well, quasi-sponsor, was the European Commission in 1971. There you go. So, yeah, right from the start and through to today. Bringing it back to today, since that time, they've been really preoccupied with the future of humanity

almost. With the Fourth Industrial Revolution stuff. To carry that off, Sean? Yeah. The Fourth Industrial Revolution, we've been referring to it. I should just explain it here. and to carry that off. Sean? Yeah, so the fourth industrial revolution, we've been referring to it. I should just explain it here. John sent me this very interesting article,

Klaus Schwab and His Great Fascist Reset, written at winteroak.org.uk. And it goes through a lot of the writings of Klaus Schwab, his various books he's written. The author read all of them and has a lot of the writings of Klaus Schwab, his various books he's written. The author read all of them and has a lot of interesting pull quotes. We'll go through a couple of the pull quotes, but I did just want to give the author credit

for just absolutely as a comic, you want to open with your strongest material. He does not beat around the bush here. This first paragraph of his description, born in Ravensburg in 1938, Klaus Schwab is a child of adolf hitler's germany a police state a police state regime built on fear and violence on brainwashing and control on propaganda and lies on imperialism and eugenics on dehumanization

and quote-unquote disinfection on a chilling and grandiose vision of a new order that would last a thousand years and uh uh and when we talk about the fourth industrial revolution, this was the title of one of Klaus Schwab's books, the simplest version that I understand it as is the first industrial revolution was steam power, the second industrial revolution was electricity, the third is the digital age that we're in the middle of now, and Klaus Schwab seems to believe the fourth one is going to be transhumanism where you know we

get we become cyborgs you get your little cyborg arms for super strength you get a chip in your brain that lets you remember and have a 300 IQ it's the idea is that fourth Industrial Revolution is transhumanism I think they um he wanted to call it the fifth industrial revolution but Hilde was like we've been over this you have to go there hasn't been a fourth one yet he said fourth industrial revolution

because fourth wreck didn't sound that's so good we might want to before we just John and I have some quotes from this article a couple quotes a couple quotes from the article, a couple quotes from Klaus Schwab's writing that we'll just kind of go through here. But we might want, he was on the Charlie Rose show in 2015, for some reason hasn't been back yet. But he was on Charlie. Oh, Charlie should invite him.

He was on Charlie Rose in 2015. And there's a clip of him explaining in his own words the fourth industrial revolution. It's about a minute and a half, so we'll just explain it, and we'll let Colonel Klink tell you in his own words what exactly this is, what it means. The difference of this fourth industrial revolution is it doesn't change what you are doing.

It changes you. If you take genetic editing, just as an example, it's you who are changed. And of course, this has a big impact on your identity. And offers certain kinds of possibilities that have to be careful about. You know, when you began to do that kind of gene editing. Some people worry that you are changing what it means to be human. That's the problem. Of course, the new industrial revolution offers us many opportunities, but it raises many

questions on the ethical, but even legal implications. And we have to be prepared for it. And that's what we want to do in Davos next year. Talk about technology and the ways it can be deployed, you know, that contribute to growth rather than exacerbate unemployment. How will that implement itself? It's a big question mark because there is a fear that technology, robots, just to take one element... You gain productivity from machines. Exactly and it replaces maybe the

workforce or jobs faster and we can replace them with new jobs. Not everybody can be a robot polisher and so on. So there will be new jobs. Did he say robot polisher? Yeah. Did you see the patronization in that? It's like, we will find them the new jobs. You know what I mean? Like, who does he think that he is?

And the way that he talks about this technology, just because we can do something doesn't mean we have to do it. Right. but it kind of comes off as like a comic that's riffing for time where it's like in the future robots will solve some of these problems it's also that thing in the argument about automate automation where it's like uh the people who are arguing against it take this bizarre thing where they're like oh no if we automate too much then you know all the all the poor people won't have something to do with their time right right and then instead of like automation can be um you know a good thing if the benefits are just distributed equally amongst society but instead they say oh it's taking jobs as a way to uh kind of, centralize power even more when you frame it that way.

Or like throw a bunch of people onto UBI, which I think could be a good thing as long as there's an economy on top of it where people can still make their own money. But if there's no possibility to do that and people are just locked into this UBI thing, that's going to come with all types of strings attached to it. And I think it's actually a form of economic slavery. And those strings are going to be new types of technology attached to it and i think it's actually a form of economic slavery and those strings are going to be new types of technology that are used like when we get if we go towards a cashless society you're going to get your ubi but only if you jump through certain hoops in order

to get it you can only use your money within you know five miles of where you live because you're you know you've been you've had some thought crimes or something like that sure yeah you didn't clap for she you know and like some of these things that john's talking about we might see in the next handful of months in terms of uh the unemployment running out to evictions to the pandemic and but also the beginning of all this fucking new world order if we're surprisingly correct you see little things poking up now in terms of like covid response because australia for whatever reason has been very draconian with their lockdowns americans we're not getting a ton of news about it but it's been really like a hellscape over there for them and now this newest thing there's a new app that

they have where they can they have to have to, they can only go without within five kilometers of where they live. And then they have to, there's a facial recognition app now that also has a GPS thing that they have to check in with every certain amount of time. I know it sounds made up, but it's a real thing that's happening in Australia right now. And that would be something that would be like a prototype of what we can look at in the fourth industrial revolution, because the fourth industrial revolution includes things like IOT, like the internet of things. Like once the, once 5g comes online, the fifth generation of telecom that allows for the bandwidth for the internet of things, that's all the sensors and all the

devices to be able to communicate with each other. That's what IOT is, right? Then there's IOB, which is the internet of bodies, which has to do. Oh, cool. other. That's what IoT is, right? Then there's IOB, which is the Internet of Bodies, which has to do with... Oh, cool. That sounds awesome. That sounds real fun, right? That has to do with implantables and stuff like that and just different sort of things like nanomedicine where you can kind of like...

So you'll remember to take your pills or they can track that you're taking your pills or some sort of nanopill that you take that can then have some sort of feedback back to your telemedicine provider like all this crazy shit is what the fourth industrial revolution would mean it's basically everything is digitally mediated it has to do with ai as well obviously um so basically it's uh it's pretty crazy it's also increasing the use of synthetic biology and bioengineering. So literally

being re-engineered at our cellular level if we're not careful. And just like with the Internet of Things, this connects to a couple things where it's like the purpose of the World Economic Forum is to find profit-making opportunities with global warming or whatever. And it's also what you say with like, just because

you can do something, you don't have to. These guys, Klaus Schwab and all of them, they've talked about like, yeah, they want your washing machine connected to the internet. They want your microwave connected to the internet. There's no reason for that, except now it can sell your data.

If you're, you know, if your whatever is gonna, if everything in your house is connected to the internet, well, it's, you know, that data is valuable to people. They want to know like how much you're whatever is going to, if everything in your house is connected to the internet, well, it's, you know, that data is valuable to people. They want to know like how much you're doing laundry, you know, what you're eating. Like all of these things can be sold to advertisers to build a profile of you that they can theoretically make money off of. Yeah.

Toaster that, that records how much you jerk off. Exactly. Yes. Well, there's, there's still the Amazon Alexa in the next room. Dude, there's things with like sensors in the toilet that can tell how your gut biome is sure you just tell you shit it's unbelievable right right and they always try to pitch it as like you know it's for your personal health right right good you know which is a huge slap in the face especially in america where it's like oh it's for our health the system that you know if you don't have enough money you just die

in the streets yeah so or the system that for your health when if you don't have enough money, you just die in the streets. Yeah. So, or the system that for your health, when you get a vaccine, you get two Krispy Kreme donuts. That's, I mean, some of that, that sounds like both exciting and terrifying, but how much of this is just Klaus just blowing smoke and like, it's just not even gonna like what, what makes it a revolution versus like, okay, there's a bunch of technologies. It's a fair point. Like, Silicon Valley in the 70s and starting 60s and 70s, starting the third revolution.

Well, the future is unwritten. Some people were very frightened of that, and then, you know, here we are. We got through it. Well, I guess. Right, right, right. But, I mean, I think it's easy to argue that in that era of 50s and 60s

when Silicon Valley and all that stuff is starting, to tell them you can order food from a square in your pocket, they'd be like, that'll never happen. You know what I mean? Whereas in the same vein of everything we're talking about, you know, 40 to 60 years from now, it's if technology is manipulated enough for the future then uh yeah less than that then this could be very possible i think part of it too is like you know when we talk about data mining

for advertising i think advertising itself is a bit of a red herring like the ultimate goal is more of like social control where you can trace everybody's habits and what they do and you know we talked about this a bit a couple years ago on our Google episode. It's based on this kind of, optimistically, this misinterpretation of behaviorism or an over-application of behaviorism that you can kind of condition people to behave in a certain way to control them.

And fortunately, that's kind of bullshit. People can still have autonomy, but that does seem to be a big part of the goal in creating these data mining systems. Yeah, and Steve, you're right. A lot of what Klaus Schwab says is just bullshit and blowing smoke and stuff, but we do have to consider this in the fact

that this is the guy who's the head of the most powerful international meeting group of the ruling class. So it's like, yeah, you know, let's say, I don't know, 20, 50, even 70 percent of it is bullshit. If, you know, 30 percent of it is we are going to be able to implement this. So it's like the article that, again, Klaus Schwab and his great fascist reset. It's very good about talking about how Klaus Schwab and his writings, he always talks about narrative and narrative is it's it's code word for ruling class propaganda. They all want to get on the same page about these are our goals. How do we sell them to the public? How do we get our goals implemented? And that's just about narrative, about making sure people see their goals in the way they want the people to see them. Yeah.

And the technological capabilities that I was just touching on and stuff like that, that stuff exists. Right. You know, like some of it, I know he was trained as an engineer but i think it's been a very long time safe to say since right since he's done any actual engineering himself and so like when he's social except for social but like mechanical say uh he and i say that because like when he writes on automation he's's saying things that are just at odds with the field of automation. Sure.

Where it's like he says maybe they'll replace workers doing physical tasks. So far, not. He could have talked about GPT-3, which is an AI that helps you write stuff for articles and whatnot and that's pretty creepy but the fact that he doesn't mention like ways in which ai really could change things like versus like robots are coming for your jobs well maybe that's like a purpose is that a purposeful thing to get people scared so that they accept their message and he's blowing smoke in that way or is he just like not know what he's talking about i think he just talks in the broad strokes

you know what i mean he's just the big idea guy um but i mean there's a there's this great researcher named allison mcdowell who really has covered this stuff at length independent researcher and she was talking about some folks who got into Davos meeting in 2016. And a lot of these like CEOs of corporations were talking about how they're actually ready to go with the automation thing. And they could get rid of a lot of the workers, but they're just not doing it yet because the middle class would totally burn. They're just trying to like hold off on it and figure out uh what to do with people and then that'll kind of tie into more people getting thrown onto ubi yeah i mean like getting robots to do physical tasks beyond very very very simple things has been a real issue for

roboticists and like amazon has the best they can manage is they bought that one company that moves um like pallets like pallets of stuff to where people are and then the people do the the actual picking yeah yeah yeah yeah so i don't know how so like i don't know i just that's a separate thing like i'm i think the like factory workers losing their jobs to robots is a little overblown. But in some ways, the AI thing with GPT-3 does kind of make me think, oh, maybe it's the journalists who should be worried. Well, it's also the more complex. Oh, yeah. That shit's interesting, isn't it?

Yeah. Writing their essays for them. Yeah. How a large percentage of news may be just ai based and stuff like that we're talking like 90 so like i didn't yeah so like when i hear klaus just kind of like speaking in this super general way i'm like okay okay dude that's what klaus does yeah one thing about that though the ai writing i took broadcast journalism classes and uh in that for writing for radio, you would just rewrite the AP wire to then be vocally friendly for the radio. Basically, a lot of the news is just rewritten news. And so one of the things about the scientific limitations of AI taking over like employees for factories and stuff is one of those things where part of me goes,

they could just lie about it. Like if tomorrow Bezos was like, we have full AI factories and stuff is one of those things where part of me goes they could just lie about it like if tomorrow basil's was like we have full ai factories and secretly it's just people that are fucking enslaved in those factories we wouldn't fucking know and they they do have ai um saying how fast people should work yeah and so like an ai is setting the threshold right below which you get fired i i so that sense, they are an AI effect. I think we're in a current position where AI and what it can do tomorrow is being like outsourced to people. Like we talk about like in the future, if you do a crime, they'll find you immediately. Right. And like you'll see on Twitter, like some random person takes a video of a guy like, you know, yelling a racial slur or something, and then Twitter will find that person. We are the AI of the future right now,

and it's figuring out how to make that from a computer. But right now, it's just us doing it, if you know what I mean. It's like a very weird... Sort of the eye. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not eye. Anyway, nice.

But one last thing about everything collecting data that I wanted to touch on was that it does seem to me that all of the influencers and like YouTube vloggers are just better at big brother than the government and that's why we pay them to exist because to track all of us requires people to film themselves 24 7 and these idiots are getting paid you know you know in some cases way too much fucking money but like it's just useful for them to learn how people function including if their entertainment is just watching a person exist well sure i don't know guys knowing where people are and what they're doing is definitely valuable for governments yeah and so that would help in the stakeholder model for governments to let the

companies in if they offer those products to them the main thing i learned from like all this uh cyborg research shit i was doing is like claude schwab he definitely played the game deus ex human revolution and was like man i hate that you have to play as the villain i hate that you're trying to stop this uh but yeah so uh continuing uh just like we'll go through a couple quotes or uh some some interesting poll quotes of like the writings of klaus schwab again from this article klaus schwab and his great fascist reset uh the the author talks about how the world economic forum that uses a lot of cliches a lot of corporate spin a lot of greenwashing but as we mentioned you know the goal is profit and exploitation klaus schwabab in his 2016 book, Shaping the Future of the Fourth

Industrial Revolution, a Guide to Building a Better World. You know, he kind of like talks happily about how like the uberization of work means that human cloud platforms as human cloud platforms classify workers as self-employed they are for the moment free of the requirement to pay minimal wage employer taxes and social benefits and you know he seems uh honestly rather happy about that uh and then he also talks about retirement quote aging is an economic challenge because unless retirement ages are drastically increased so that older members of society can continue to contribute to the workforce, an economic imperative that has many economic benefits,

that working age population falls at the same time the percentage of dependent elders increases, unquote. So he wants to raise entire retirement ages and he's very much thrilled about the uberization of the economy. However, he does seem he's concerned about the potential for technology to create class conflict and his his whole goal is like on behalf of the ruling class to how do we manage this how do we manage class conflict to make sure that we don't create a backlash that we are not able to stop yeah and how you do that is convinced convincing people that stakeholder capitalism right is uh is good and that global governance is good and you also scare people uh with whatever wedge issues you can and that's how you do it he just has to change his first name to santa i think that'll change

everything santa schwab his first name is claus never mind he's shifting back yes right let's move on, guys. Well, it's also for people like him when they talk about delaying retirement. They also have this tunnel vision where they're like, well, I'm not retiring. Whereas their life is maybe type some words into

a document, then go to a meeting where the after party is run by Jeffrey Epstein and like you know then get on a private jet and they count all of that as work and like it's so to them it's like okay well it's

it's fine to work into your old age I'm doing it because you know he's not like stocking a supermarket shelf yeah I think you could replace Klaus with GPT-3. Yeah, probably. They could write his keynotes pretty easily.

They might be doing it now. He probably uses it a bit already. Yeah. Continuing on about the narrative, I mentioned he uses this term narrative as code word for propaganda or euphemism for propaganda. He talks about his fourth industrial revolution, and he says it's a tragedy that, quote,

the world lacks a consistent, positive, and common narrative that outlines the opportunities and challenges of the fourth industrial revolution, a narrative that is essential if we are to empower a diverse set of individuals and communities and avoid a popular backlash against the fundamental changes under Waze. I think that last part is very important. Avoid a popular backlash against the fundamental changes that are under Waze. They want to make sure they have a narrative so that they can not have some sort of popular revolution that's going to stop their particular plan for the world.

He says collaborations are needed to create positive, common, and hope-filled narratives. So this is like what they're doing at Davos. They are getting together and setting the narrative. They're setting the ruling class propaganda very much conscious of the way we talk about the things that we are trying to do will impact whether or not

there is any popular outcry to stop us. Yeah, and they have reach. They have reach in terms of media presence and stuff like that. You know, you got the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution on the cover of Time magazine. You got all sorts of articles

and from different publications that are actually cutouts of the World Economic Forum that are funded by them and stuff like that. So they try to present themselves as this solutions-based group that's trying to help everybody, but with Lilly Singh and the Davos Daily wrap-up and all this insanity. But it really is just about concentrating more wealth and more power and more resources into the hands of the 1%.

It's very simple. Now, what does the Great Reset mean, at least from Klaus's perspective? What is his kind of propagandized version of what this means? The Great Reset is a complete restructuring of the economy and the social compact in order to replace stakeholder capitalism with,

I'm sorry, replace shareholder capitalism with stakeholder capitalism. And I know that it's like, yeah, but what does that mean? And it's like, I know. But that's the whole thing. It's just the ideas. That's how they get you.

It's just like these floating platitudes of like, it's a more inclusive version of capitalism it's more sustainable it's more diverse you know what i mean it takes into account all of the stakeholder does it does it seem clear now it makes sense yeah yeah lgbtq friendly yeah ia lgbtq ia plus that's right i do think that some of the spin that we're seeing for people the commoners to understand it is also working on the elites like similar to elizabeth holmes and the theranos situation where she duped a whole bunch of white rich nerds to buy that she's awesome and doing

something really innovative well a brown man was abusing her to do that that's right well you know we get it done but like i think that uh when it comes to klaus, he's just an ideas man who's bullshitting his way to the top. I think you're totally right. And I think a lot of people who are involved with the World Economic Forum, they're not all just twirling their mustaches. I think they feel like they're special. They're part of this special group. And they're using their power and influence to take on the world's problems

and help everybody out. What's great on a resume? World Economic Forum. Wow, you must be doing the Lord's work. It's out and da da da da da da da da. What's great on a resume? World Economic Forum. Wow, you must be doing the Lord's work. It's important to understand about ruling class propaganda is, of course, serves a financial interest, but a lot of them do get high on their own supply. Of course. Like James Angleton was the head of the CIA counterintelligence, like one of the most

powerful men in U.S. intelligence. He believed Henry Kissinger was a communist. Like, you know, they hear all this shit about oh the communist infiltrators like a lot of them buy that and get into it so it's like a lot of them probably convince themselves probably truly do believe this is not just about money

or whatever they have some like ideology that justifies their profit making but it doesn't mean it's not just about money at the end of the day yeah it's good to about money at the end of the day. It's good to... I think that if you balance calling out the World Economic Forum as, yes, it is a literal conspiracy, but also a lot of people inside of it are high on their own supply, like you said.

They start to believe their own bullshit. And so they make mistakes, basically and like it's like okay fourth industrial revolution this seems partially bullshit but then again this is an extremely powerful group so if they just say to build shit people will start building yeah definitely so like if they trade if they start saying automation is the key to maintain control or something people will start trying to innovate new robots or something. It's true, but they are also constrained by just the material realities. And so while they have these plans,

so far the system as it exists now is, it's as much a product of their machinations as it is, this is the most effective way for the ruling class to kind of exert their control and it kind of more or less naturally fell into that uh situation and so yeah like uh state like we just said stakeholder capitalism didn't really go beyond academia for almost 30 years it was just kind of bounced around in industrial organization journals and shit for like decades before it caught on and now it's obviously move yeah they finally dusting off a classic and since like 2018 or

so it's really been in the news a lot actually it takes 30 years of work to make an overnight success stakeholder capitalism so they're definitely not infallible i bring that up to just say like yeah it is it's a literal conspiracy but they're just you know they're still definitely fallible right and uh a lot of their ideas don't catch on at all and that's why they're so afraid of like popular backlash to you know fourth industrial revolution or whatever it's because they know like yeah large organized groups of people can beat them so you know don't uh never convince yourself that these people are omnipotent because yeah they don't know what's good for them yeah yeah and it's the sort of thing where if their reputation keeps getting gets bashed gets really damaged damaged, then they lose. That means so much to them. Their reputation is how they get access by creating exclusivity for these different groups.

If they become this laughingstock, which I think they rightly should be, then they lose that. They have a very precarious, loose mandate, so to speak. And it's their discretion that allows them to have their power right now. Right. Yeah. Their anonymity in terms of their global control is a huge strength to how they are able to operate.

And I think exactly why a person like Greta Thunberg is invited and celebrated in their ecosystem, because if the focus is on her, because people are split on her regardless of of what she is or isn't um and it just takes the attention off the group itself when it's like she's at davos like literally everyone knows what davos is but what the group is is a much more difficult thing to even explain let alone fucking comprehend well i know my theory of why they let her in it's kind of like when a king has a court jester and the jet they allow the jester to insult them sure because it's a way for them to get a beat on what the commoners think of them well they wanted seriously they wanted come down but credit had to do instead yeah yeah so

like they want they let thunberg go in there and say like you guys aren't doing shit against climate change you're the reason we're in this mess etc and which is i'm glad that message is frankly necessary i mean somebody's gotta say it sure and so it really resonates with people but i think they also kind of like it because it's like all right well this is what people think of us yeah but also like their plan for climate change is not going i mean it will it may they may be able to reduce emissions carbon emissions and keep the ruling structure uh but that will be a nightmare world like that's what they want that will be a highly geoengineered fucking yeah i think the ass scenario many of the davos crowd i think legitimately do worry about environmental

degradation yeah it's just it's always couched in terms of like and how do i maintain control right and and and can we accumulate wealth yes yes exactly exactly one more or a couple more quotes from this article klaus schwab and his great fascist reset which will be in the show notes if you want to read it it's very interesting um the author makes a very interesting observation which is that claus schwab throughout his writings he always seems to use the term value instead of profit like uh he talks about creating value for stakeholders instead of saying making profit for business so it's like you see so much of this guy's language is very carefully laundered uh ruling class interest in you know things that sound more benign creating value for stakeholders who's against that uh he talks about uh klaus

schwab writes quote all things will be smart and connected to the internet uh and this will extend to animals as quote sensors wired in cattle can communicate to each other through a mobile phone network uh he says quote establishing trust establishing trust in the data and algorithms used to make decisions will be vital. Citizen concerns over privacy and establishing accountability in business and legal structures will require adjustments in thinking, unquote. And again, like, it's very...

What if your cow was a phone? It's very sinister, but it's also just so fucking boring that I'm very grateful to the author of this piece for taking the time to go through and get these pull quotes. Dude, he read all of this guy's books. I could never do it. God bless this guy for doing that. He sat through and read all of Klaus Schwab's books.

It could network our cattle together with mobile phone technology. It sounds like the thing that the guy in No Country for Old Men was using to kill people, but it's an app where it's just built into the cow. It's like a game where

once you get all the Tetris blocks and four in a row are gone, you can kill a cow. Yeah, that's a decent question. Do you guys think that all of the future tech that tracks all of us that will be in the near future will be tested on livestock first? Will it go through them before it goes through us? Well, isn't there this thing where certain livestock

are already implanted with stuff like that so they can be GPS tracked and stuff like that? They already do something like that. Yeah, they do that for livestock. So maybe they could do it for us soon. F well like you know every six months or so you'll see a uh uh article that's like oh they've implanted a chip in a monkey that allows to control a computer with its brain and you're supposed to be like oh cool yeah yeah yeah yeah they'll definitely do stuff where it'll be like you can get a chip in your brain and you'll you'll never be lost all you have to do is look at any screen and it'll be like, you can get a chip in your brain and you'll never be lost.

All you have to do is look at any screen and it'll tell you where you need to go while secretly where you have to go is where they want you to be. And when we say you can get a chip, we mean you will get a chip. Right, right. Well, there's certain weird stuff that exists that I don't know a ton about. It's like there's smart dust is a thing.

I don't know what that is. Smart dust is basically... Cocaine. Basically coke. I would love to know how much coke goes into Davos. I wish we could get that number. Greta brings it in on the boat. 50 pounds.

Yeah, that's why she's on a boat. She can't get it on a plane. Davos, if you're listening, if Greta gets too big for her britches and her fees are too high, grub stakers will come to Davos. We'll court jester you guys. Yeah, we'll totally rush you.

Just give us the real Bolivian shit. No fentanyl. That's all we ask. Yeah, yeah. Smart dust are like very small, like size of like a piece of rice, little sensors that have like their electromagnetic sort of little devices that can just be like put all over a certain area and then

it can just give back all sorts of real-time data about oh interesting oh so kind of like nanobots yeah kind of like a nanobot like where people are in a room and stuff yeah or it can do stuff to be like okay is this is the is this is there risk of there an earthquake happening or something like that? So it can be for different sort of things like that. I don't totally understand. There'd be some good uses as well as some bad uses. Yeah, potential good uses, potential horrifying uses to track us in real time.

Like a new level of Uber surveillance and stuff like that. And Schwab, obviously he addresses privacy concerns and this kind of stuff and possible citizen backlash to, you know, 5G and surveillance tech and such. And he basically argues it's worth it as like crime will decrease as a result of facial recognition tech, as a result of AI. to something like how are we able to live in a free society when we essentially have an oligarchy that has you know this very advanced facial recognition technology and all this stuff where you don't have anonymity anymore i argue no yeah i would agree with that but there's another thing called smart tattoos where yeah where you can get dye like uh cast underneath your skin and then they can read from that if you have all of

your up-to-date medical records and stuff like that they're actually testing that on uh people in west africa right now and but it's like bill and melinda gates foundation is funding it in conjunction with mastercard oh right because they i think that it's so creepy right yes yes look it up some of this i believe the original intent was like it would be a passport for you this would allow you to travel freely because that's how they always like mask this it's no no you don't have to carry a passport anymore it's tattooed on your body and then slowly it's like also this is everything we need to know this is that's also like the plot of the constant gardener yeah right yeah you know the worst thing in the world like getting the passport

twice a year when you go to the airport what if you just had a chip in your body and we use it to track you and you don't have to get your passport anymore wouldn't that be great yeah and this technology is being developed at mit and funded by the bill and linda gates foundation right they have their fingers in every aspect of global health it's unbelievable yeah when you start to look at it it's their tentacles if you will it's because it's very the marriage of tech and health is one that's should alarm people more because you know on surface it's like no we want you to be healthy but in reality it's like no we want to control the population there's no there's no middle line between both yeah right it's a stronger marriage than the marriage of Bill and Melinda Gates.

That's hilarious. But yeah, as John was saying, Schwab in his writing dreams of active implantable microchips that break the skin barrier of our bodies, smart tattoos, biological computing, and custom designed organisms,

the ability to write dna these organisms uh and then uh of course he mainly is mainly interested this is a profit profit making opportunity for business he says quote it heralds new industries and systems for value creation and quote represents an opportunity to create an entire new system of value in the fourth industrial revolution and again value is slang for profit for multinational corporations i like that he's an opportunity to create an entire new system of value in the fourth industrial revolution. And again, value is slang for profit for multinational corporations. I like that he's using Marxist language. I think he's a comrade.

Well, yeah, you're so right. It's all about creating these new markets, you know, and using technology to do so. And it's crazy stuff, man. It's like they want to put sensors in our gut bacteria. Yeah. Well, I don't want sensors in my gut bacteria but if i don't do that then i can't uh use my ubi and i'm on ubi because my job as a stand-up comedian has been taken by some ai who's like way funnier than me yeah

wow you guys not laughing at that clearly wow wow Wow, wow, John. But that's the case. So painful. Take my livelihood, AI. Take it. I don't even deserve to be here. Your mic will shut off because they know that your gut bacteria doesn't have enough of the machines in there. Oh, yeah. My gut bacteria doesn't have a high enough social credit score to allow me to talk into the mic for my podcast. Where's the nanobots?

Yeah, I've been eating too many cheeseburgers. I was killing the nanobots. Well, that's also the thing with the gut bacteria is like, or, you know, something thing that has to do with the obesity epidemic. The obesity epidemic is just because the way that our food system works, we're eating food that is terrible for us because it's cheap and easy to produce and distribute widely at a low enough rate that it- It kills you. It kills you slowly. But ultimately, it kills you slowly. They want to be able to give you diarrhea.

They have a diarrhea button in the White House. They just have a big screen with a map of the United States. You zoom in like Google Maps, and then you can press someone's face and give them diarrhea. That's what they use all the technology for. In the middle of your 20 minutes. It'll be like you could pay more for a bonus account on twitter that makes it lets you give people you don't like diarrhea my wife makes this like turmeric ginger uh concoction and she put on instagram just like as a fucking lark and instagram was like you're

playing the law and order theme on this so we're banning it from 70 countries and she was like i wonder why they're doing that i'm like your last slide is like this helps with inflammation and a few other things. So, of course, Instagram's like, no, no, no, no, no. We need people in pain. If people are in pain, they will do whatever you want them to do. Comfort is the poison for them, for the elite. But for us, if we're in pain, they're in power, basically. Yeah. Like you have to have a certain level of comfort to take the time to find out about the world economic forum you really do and the fourth industrial revolution and the great reset yeah you know what i mean and the diarrhea button yeah which i think we have uncovered today i wouldn't

i wouldn't be able to do any research for the pod if there's a there's a diarrhea button all of us come down with diarrhea over the next few episodes and they're're like, what the fuck had found us, bro? You guys know that there's a eugenics aspect to this thing, too. Of course, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, there's kind of a eugenics revival thing happening. He's got this quote where he says. It's the remix.

What, this guy with this accent? Who would have thunk it? Yeah. He says that it is now far easier to manipulate with precision the human genome within viable embryos means that we are likely to see the advent of designer babies in the future who possess particular traits or who are resistant to a specific disease. And, you know, what's going to happen there is like rich people are going to have like a designer baby, but then it's going to come out with like a crab claw. And so then they'll just throw it in the garbage disposal and try again yeah eggs and omelets when i say this guy has played like deus ex human revolution i think he probably has and i do

recommend the game i mean it deals with kind of like you know dystopian future where it's like yeah some people are not going to want to become machines it's just a reality oh yeah but if you don't want to become a machine then do you have to be like a subhuman like you're a chimpanzee compared to a like uh human i guess you know what i mean or yeah right and that's the plot of the game you know this kind of like conflict between these two groups but also like schwab is clearly thinking about this. He writes, quote, inequality will separate those who adapt from those who resist. And he's basically saying

those who resist becoming a cyborg. The material winners and losers in all senses of the words. The winners may even benefit from some form of radical human improvement generated by certain segments of the fourth industrial revolution, such as genetic engineering, from which the losers will be deprived.

This risks creating class conflicts and other clashes unlike anything we have seen before." Big comrade. Some of this also does come from the fear of youth that is in the eugenics movement in that they're afraid there's more younger people in these other brown black countries and they will take over us because we'll be too old to defend ourselves and for something like this where it's the designer baby it's to quell some of the fears of we won't be young and strong enough to take out the those people that are younger than us because part of me doesn't believe that um so it's racist oh yeah 100 yeah as as simple as it's racist it's it's saying these black and brown people could become more powerful than us

because they're younger than us so we need to uh double our chances of supremacy by becoming robots and creating super babies that's right that's crazy but he isn't is he saying like and that's why everyone should be making super babies not just the few the thing is is that is that what he wants a lot of this is based on the richest people can afford to have all the many 99 being like the one percent the corbin 99 of the super babies does he want everyone to have designer babies that have 140 IQs? Everyone that's rich,

he wants them to have designer babies, I think. I thought he was warning us about that. So what does he want in response? Oh, so it's probably going to be a thing where it's like if you're rich, you get a good designer baby, but if you're not rich, you get like a Ford designer baby.

It seems like, I mean, yeah. A Ford Focus? He wants rich people to be able to do their designer babies in genetic engineering in peace, and part of how he wants that is he wants all of this tech to be rolled out for Panopticon surveillance for global governance in order to suppress

class conflict. Because what he was just saying in that quote i read is like you know the poor people whether they want to or not they won't be able to afford becoming cyborgs and as we were saying yeah they will become maybe like chimpanzees compared to these like new like half human half robots so how do you control this mass of like slave labor essentially well like he talks about like really dystopian shit and you know like i'll read this this little sentence or two here and you can tell me you know some of it it's like well maybe he's just too high he doesn't know what's really going

to happen but at the same time you don't really know he says quote as capabilities in this area improve the temptation for law enforcement enforcement agencies to use technology to determine the likelihood of criminal activity, assess guilt or even possibly retrieve memories directly from people's brains will increase. Even crossing a national border might one day involved a detailed brain scan toest an individual security risk. So it does seem like, you know, he's really, I guess, we don't know if the technology will be there, but he is very interested in using technology to create a dystopian global governance system. In addition to that, also there are people actively working to make this technology real.

Yeah. I mean, what will probably happen with something like a brain scan at the border is they'll make a very convincing argument that it is an accurate brain scan but then they'll be like oh yeah you you're going in the truck like it's just kind of a smoke screen yeah they i go i try to go into canada and they just do the brain scan there's like a bunch of dark night scenes and like uh like maybe a little bit economics but mostly like from those movies you're like you go that was your brain scan yeah they're like oh this this guy is twisted just watch they're like we're letting him in he's like you can go through

yeah you go through you're a cool we're letting him in. You can go through. You can go through. You're a cool dude. That's a national movie of Canada. You try to cross the border to Canada and the border guard's like, so you thought about doing anything besides just re-watching Evangelion every month? There's other anime out there. There's Neon Genesis memes

that are just going through my head rapid fire. That's all it is but there's no subversive thoughts that is like this guy's plan is like end of Evangelion without Shinji fucking it up

for everyone the human instrumentality yeah but also a lot of this too is exploitation of the developing world there's a lot of people too is exploitation of the developing world you know there's a lot of people who still are not at billions that are still even not on the internet what i know i know so the idea of getting them tapped in and as these technologies are there and controlling them from the get-go yeah is definitely part of the agenda so it's like um

you know it's exploitating it's it's basically you can exploit exploitates the uh i'm sorry exploit the population developing world via global techno imperialism and like you were saying they sean they have this propaganda narrative that really makes it sound like they're just trying to help people it's like you know elon musk's satellite net that is sending astronomy back like a hundred years because it's just blocking out all the stars but the idea is we are bringing the internet

to everyone when of course it's also part of it. They want to create new markets to make money off of it. They could use the Zuck blimps to broadcast Wi-Fi. Listen, there's a billion people not watching PewDiePie, and they need to change this,

because if they can't change that, the future can't continue. He writes about one world government or global governance. I know one world government is kind of like, it can be treated as a right-wing conspiracy, but it's like, yeah, they want to do away with individual national roadblocks to this kind of stuff. His preferred future... Now, who's in charge of this one world government, Sean?

Probably Sean. Probably stakeholders. Yeah. Why can't one world government acknowledging, why can't that transcend the left-right divide when it's like obviously what we're talking about is obviously a thing? Because the infighting keeps it alive. If I'm fighting with Joe Sche about the one world order and he's like you're being anti-semitic or if i'm saying that you're saying that i don't know fucking all the white people around everything it doesn't matter but us fighting allows it to continue it is the

divide and conquer method that has worked forever yeah they're very good at the divine yeah right well yeah it's i mean that was kind of like the idea of the industrialist supporting the nazis where it's like yeah the system is rigged and they are trying to screw you over and by they we mean the jews not not the people at the top making all the money right that's the that's how you tell like good from bad one world government analysis is how focused they are on the last names. If they're doing the count the last names game, you should back away. But yeah, he writes about his preferred future

will, quote, only come through improved global governance. He insists, quote, some form of effective global governance is needed. And then quoting from the article, this all-englobing empire very much frowns on the idea of any particular population democratically deciding to take another path these quote risk becoming isolated from the global norms putting these nations at risk of becoming the laggards of the new digital economy

you can't say laggards that's not allowed right but it's the idea that he's quoting right if like no no no you can't do it it's the idea that it's like... Oh, he's quoting. Right. No, no, no. You can't do it. It's the idea that if like some nation votes... Oh, so you can say laggards? I can say it, but he can't say it with a hard R. Some nation like Russia or whatever, or England or whatever nation, they vote and they say, no brain scans. Brain scans are illegal.

You can't do brain scans for poor... He's saying they risk becoming laggards in the new digital economy. So it's like this is their concern. And that's, I mean, something we've seen with countries that have wanted to not serve the capitalistic structure. It's immediately destabilize the government and go in and initiate a coup and do whatever the fuck you want and causes riots and so on and so forth. But it's based on if you don't follow what we want to do, we'll fucking figure out how to end you. It's weird though, because as capitalists,

as uber capitalists as these people are, it seems like all of their language, their woke language sounds very much like socialism. So basically what I've sort of deciphered is that they want to create their version of socialism for all of us and make us think that that's good is that they want to create their version of socialism for all of us and make us think that that's good and how we want to live while they dictate on their terms how we're supposed to live and they really own all of the world's resources. It's socialism

without the democracy, which to me means not you said it's like just as bad as the shareholder stuff that's a really good way to put it socialism what is socialism without democracy it's fucking fascism yeah and what it's affected governments and it's a good way to stop imperialism but what john is saying is what the conservative argument against the WEF is. Like in some of the videos, you see people that are like, well, this is the left-wing agenda to convince all of us to go to socialism, but really it's this, which is a fair point.

But then people that are more on the left will be like, no, you're attacking socialism and not a global fascist control that is the WEF. I dare to say, I think some of us folks on the left and the progressive camp have a blind spot about the nuance that we just talked about right there. I think it is. And a part of it is that... Not me, I'm post-left. A part of it is... I transcended the left-right divide myself, personally. I think a part of it is that if what you're talking about seems too crazy to be true on the left, then you're automatically something I'm not, which is frustrating because it's like, no, the insane shit's happening always. This is not a fucking reality where terrible things aren't happening every fucking day.

You live in a world where some version of the Holocaust is occurring at all times. So for you to be like no no but i'm one of the good ones it's like it doesn't fucking exist there's no such thing as the right person making the correct decisions when in the end game is a capitalistic rule that um hurts us all well i think a big problem is a lot of people on the left haven't played deus ex human revolution which talks about all these issues in in just the terms we've just described. Well, that's what the stimulus was for. It was to let them know. Klaus has logged 300 hours on it with Hilda.

But I like that so much. Yeah, socialism without democracy. Yeah. Boom. But yeah, and just a couple more things from this article. He talks about systems leadership. This is, again, like another term like narrative control. It's essentially like a term for coordination among the ruling class. He says systems leadership

quote requires action from all stakeholders including individuals, business executives, social influencers, and policy makers. Let's get them all together on the same page at Davos and then spend the year you know know, pushing the narrative. But, you know, we, we've, we've gone a while.

We, we've only just now, I think. PewDiePie is about to go to Davos. That's right. We've gone a little while. I think we should just talk a little bit about COVID-19 before we wrap up here.

Because this is like, as we. It's over. As we mentioned, he, he wrote this book, July, 2020, it came out COVID-19, The Great Reset. He co-authored it with Thierry Mallaret, who, according to the article, runs something called the Monthly Barometer, which describes itself as, quote, a succinct predictive analysis provided to private investors, global CEOs, and opinion and decision makers. So, you know, obviously what they think about COVID-19 is what we should think about.

Theory Mallory is a fake name. That's AI right there. That is the AI program here. No fucking way. Theory spelled T-H-I-E-R-R-Y. Get the fuck out of here. That's correct. That's a computer.

T-H-I-E-R-R-Y. It sounds made up as hell. But what is that? What is this newsletter? You know what I mean? It sounds like his newsletter is like the... Those are all words. Yeah.

It's actually deep blue with like a fake mustache. It's like the marching orders for the globalists. It's like the inside tips. But yeah, this is why I got so down, like went down such a rabbit hole with this stuff because first you got event 201 which is basically a world economic forum puts this thing on it's a tabletop pandemic uh simulation of a novel coronavirus then you cut to a real pandemic happening right and you cut to a few months into it. He's got a whole book and COVID-19, the great reset where that book is about. It's about, uh, in part, it's about talking about what the post

quote, what the post pandemic world could and maybe should look like. So it's like, who is pulling all the strings here, man? You know, I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but he wrote this book and it's, it's basically just repeating a lot of the platitudes that we talked about with the stakeholder capitalism and stuff like that. But all of this sort of stuff of people being isolated from each other, people being in their homes, using so many digital technologies, all of that stuff. It is like it is like a complete wet dream for Klaus Schwab and these technocratic fascists. I think similar to how the neocon agenda of the George W. Bush administration never could have happened without September 11th. Everything that they wanted to do happened because that event happened. This global pandemic has allowed so many things to get a get the ball rolling.

And it's just going to continue because there's going to be these feedback loops now between pandemics and between environmental disaster and stuff like that. And they're going to just use that as a way to try to push through their technocratic agenda. Yeah. And quoting from the book, quote, they're referring to, of course, the covid-19 pandemic covid19 pandemic which by the way is a great stocking stuffer for that relative who you got andrew cuomo's leadership book for last christmas that's hilarious uh referring to the covid19 pandemic they write quote it is our defining moment quote many things will change forever quote a new world order or a new world will emerge i guess they they'd learn to throw keep the word order off of it yeah now they just say a new world will emerge uh quote the societal upheaval unleashed by covet 19 will last for years

and possibly generations quote many of us are pondering when things will return to normal the short response is never and so it's like yeah this and you know like john was just saying there they talk about how like uh automation and social and physical distancing will necessitate possibly permanent changes and yeah it's like when people can't get together that actually does undermine solidarity well i think that one thing i've noticed is i think i don't know if you guys have noticed this but everyone's fucking like irate underneath right now like you watch you know i watch fucking not me i'm on so long like sure i like public freakouts and stuff people are just fucking lashing out for no real reason all the time right now and it seems if you ask me more

than usual and then you think about how the generation that's like 65 and plus in this country doesn't talk to anyone sometimes for weeks. So, of course, they've been transfixed from Fox News to whatever you want to fucking say that you are dead now. Yeah, but there is a population of just older people that are talking to no one. And I can see why they go insane, basically, is what I'm trying to say, because we've all had a kind of a smaller version of that right now and I myself have been the worst version of myself during this time and I can completely see how a population that's left to force isolate goes just batshit insane. It goes against our human nature I mean we're social creatures by nature we need each other and in terms of trying to do anything for class struggle we need to be together right to learn what's going on in order to struggle and uh and fight back yeah you

know and being so isolated uh it doesn't even allow people to communicate these ideas and stuff like that's right which is really frustrating except through awesome podcast that's right um and like this is the real revolution it kind of is if you ask patreon.com slash crop stickers but the real forfeit i really do think like they're so merging are you ready for the great reset yeah yeah how many microphones and cords and cables do we have? Well, the listener can't see it, but we're all actually plugged in through our skin right now. We're all plugged in through our belly. Cybernetically enhanced podcasting.

The great reset is when we fuck up and talk for two hours and realize we weren't recording and have to start over. Yeah, we actually add the breathing noises in post, so it sounds like we're actually recording a podcast. It's just an ad-lib, so I can rap music. But the last thing I wanted to touch on from this article we've been discussing is, you know, the author, like, I don't agree with everything in there,

but when he says, you know, when he talks about the fascism, the fascist gray reset, I do not think he's engaged in a hyperbole because uh you know the the term fascism has several different definitions but one of them is the merger of the corporation and the state and i think like when we talk about davos and these people we're actually talking about a far more terrifying version which is the merger of the global corporation with the global state these multinational corporations this is not fascism in Germany anymore it's fascism on an entire global level or every you know

country that participates in this Davos system becomes like brought under this thumb and you know like just as another example the article talks about how phenomenal sums of money have been transferred from the public purse into the bulging pockets of the 1% since the start of the COVID crisis. As the authors of COVID-19, The Great Reset, acknowledge, they say, quote, the world, governments across the globe had announced stimulus programs amounting to several trillion dollars, as if eight or nine Marshall plans have been put into place almost simultaneously. And we've talked a lot on this podcast about how, like, the wealth of billionaires has increased by almost the same amount that the wealth of the working class has decreased. In about 40 years, we're the only developed country in the world, I'll say that again,

we're the only developed country in the world whose economy is now bigger than it was before the pandemic. Nice. Because the groundwork we laid with the American Rescue Plan, our vaccination and our vaccination strategy, we're seeing an economy and a job market

that can weather the ups and downs of the Delta variant and anything else that comes our way that's right that was written by ai by the way that whole speech but that's like you know just like you know you the listener in your day-to-day life have you seen eight or nine fucking marshall plans no but that's the amount of money that has been spent. And it's just like, you know, they absolutely use this to transfer a ton of money from the government to the oligarchy. Even dwarfing what the transfer of wealth upward from the 2008 financial crisis. That's right. This completely dwarfs that. And

it's the sort of thing where we feel like, oh, cool, we got our extended unemployment, we got our this or that or whatever, but they got so much money. And we didn't really have that much protest against that particular issue. No. And we didn't even get to get eight or nine bombings of Dresden out of it. But Sean, I really think that this global consolidation of corporate power at a global level with transcending the nation state, that type of fascism, I don't think he's being hyperbolic either. And I actually think that that is the thing that all of the people across the left-right spectrum, of us should be aware of and should should be the issue that unites us. I really believe that. Yeah.

And it is something where it's like we can have our disagreements about vaccines or, you know, contact tracing apps or whatever. But I just it very much disturbs me to hear these people talking about just quoting from COVID-19, the Great Reset, quote, No voluntary contact tracing app will work if people are unwilling to provide their own personal data to the government agency that monitors the system. If any individual refuses to download the app and therefore withhold information about a possible infection movements and contacts, everyone will be adversely affected, quote. And they also say, quote, the corporate move will be towards greater surveillance. For better or for worse, companies will be watching and sometimes recording what their workforce does. The trend could take many different forms from measuring body temperatures with thermal cameras to monitoring via an app how employees comply with social distancing unquote and it's just something where you know i've looked at there's a great like pew research graph um of u.s public trust in the government do you trust the pew research since 1958 has been asking the u.s public do you trust the federal government to do the right thing either most of the time or almost all the time

and all the way back in like 1958 up until basically collapses after kennedy and the vietnam and all this shit but back in the day this was around like uh 78 80 percent now it's down to like 20 percent and so it's like you have this total collapse in trust of institutional legitimacy and the question is do you address that by opening up the institutions by being honest with people by you know addressing wealth and income inequality and all these things or do you know or do you address it with force or do you say yeah we're not going to bother to like get this number back up we're going to fucking make you and it does seem like very clear these people at davos they want to fucking make you yeah or it does seem like very clear these people at Davos, they want to fucking make you.

Yeah. Or do you just take a, or you just take it face value, some sort of contact tracing scheme and just assume that the government is not going to have any sort of overreach with it when you, when there's such low trust in the government. Plus like, you know, a government,

a concentrated government effort to stem the pandemic is an inherently bad thing. But the thing with these contact tracing apps and all of this type of vaccine passes and such, it's because the government and the institutions in power, they don't want to shut down the malls for a couple months. They don't want to shut down the malls for a couple months. They don't want to shut down the airports for a couple months. They don't want to have a large military effort to deliver groceries to people's

houses so that everyone can stay in for long enough for the virus to pass. All this technology and social control is there to... I think that's part of it, but I think it's more than that.

I actually think that, look, I'm vaccinated. I have proof of it, the picture of it on my phone, but I don't want to sign up for the vaccine passport. Yeah. I really don't.

I don't want to be part of that. Did you, I don't want there to be a digital database centralized. It has my private medical information in it. And I think it's just the beginning. I think that they're going to use it for future medical procedures that people have to get done in order to function in society. I think there's going to be all sorts of other aspects of identity that are going to be attached to it. I think it's a, I think it's like a test bed sort of onboarding for what I see as some really dystopic technology that they're going to use.

I used to think that things were going really bad and that society was crashing down, but now I'm on Zoloft and I think it's fine. I recommend you guys try it. You can also mix it with Vobutrin and lithium and Adderall. I'm on lithium. Nice. Wait a minute. Let me see your gut bacteria are you really on zoloft have you been taking it oh there's a nano pill now that can track it back papa's a laugh before they install the diarrhea chip it'll help trust me it'll help so loft is kind of the diarrhea but then you guys i mean do i just sound like crazy no not at all no you know

it's fucked up with you man i i like i've been to a few bars and they check my vaccine card more than any of my white friends every time and there are there are some numbers that are like pocs aren't getting the fucking vaccine as much and you know fucking bouncers and shit are being like uh i need to see your fucking papers right but here's what's even more fucked up so when i got my vaccine the fucking tool that gave it to me misspelled Pfizer on it. And now people are doing fake vaccine cards and they misspelled Moderna.

So I got to deal with the panic of them being like, Pfizer's fucking spelt wrong and be like, I'm not trying to fucking do shit. And it's like, someone was like, you got to get that fixed. And I was like, that's no big deal. And now I'm like, I could be fucked. Well, then that makes me feel like, that me feel like oh so then though if you get your passport then you'll be okay that's the problem with it it's how much do they because a

friend of mine early on was like you getting the vaccine and i was like i can't fight all the wars there's so much that i try not to do to protest in terms of global elite power this was something that i was like i guess i got to do this and at the same time though a part of me now comprehends that nothing's ever going to be enough regardless of whether it's a vaccine passport anything else there's always going to be more yeah you're right but have you have you considered uh zoloft lithium-wilfuturonater all and maybe bone how's that gonna solve my racism problem but that's the thing it's like it's you'll be like i guess this is what happens now but you're right you know in israel they're already doing the boosters right so everybody's

getting their third shot and for their vaccine passport to be up to date it has to be including the booster oh interesting yeah so it's like look i have an immune system okay too i don't i'm i'm a healthy person i'm pretty sure i got covid back in january 2020 you know what i mean um i don't want to keep getting boosters every six or eight months you know this is not okay we're going totally off the rails no you're right though i like i agree with you. But John, here's the thing. Even if it's not fucked up or conspiracy or whatever, the concern is real. Right.

We're all fucking worried that, hey, nobody thinks the pandemic was handled well. Let's just start there. No one goes, you know what? This global catastrophe. I think they did a good enough job. We gave it to the richest and most hardworking members of society. We gave all the money to them and they solved it. So thank you i don't know i think andrew andrew cuomo i'm the last guy defending his handling of the pandemic i know this is going to be a bold statement but i don't trust big pharma

yeah neither do i yeah and i don't want the reason i'm not on the drugs andy said is because i don't because in my whole life they're like you need some drugs to fucking mellow you out and i was like i'm not going to take a pill every day that's going to make me normal. Yeah, but look how much fun I'm having. And now I got hypertension. That's the paradox of me because I do have to take them. Yeah.

And I do. But at the same time, I don't think that I need a booster of some weird mrna spike protein nano lipid nanoparticle uh vaccine every six or eight months for the rest of my fucking life what are you proposing we shut down the malls i don't think that that's a fair uh uh comparison well in summation to quote the video game Deus Ex Human Resolution, I didn't ask for this. But, John F., I really want to thank you for

being here and talking to us about all this. I guess, in closing, do you have any closing thoughts, things we didn't get to? And also, please let the people know where they can find you. We will have links to your podcast and your social media in the description for this episode.

Okay, cool. I think we covered a lot. And first I want to say, this has been so much fun and I really appreciate you guys having me. Thank you. I guess just, I'll just, I'll just reiterate one thing you said towards the end that this, this great reset it's, it really is underpinned by a fascistic merging of state and business you know what i mean um and since the start of covid crisis massive sums of money have been transferred to the one percent so i think we need to be aware of that

i think we need to just scream from the hilltops about the world economic forum about davos and how ridiculous they are and how weird they are, and creepy they are, and just make fun of them, and talk about them, and just ridicule them publicly so they lose their credibility with the world leaders and the corporations that they are trying to mold some twisted techno-fascist agenda with. And you can find my word.

Before you do plugs, you're absolutely right. And it's like, it's something where what I've realized is like, whether or not you agree with lockdowns, agree with or disagree, the way they were implemented was austerity. They implemented lockdowns as austerity. And we're getting to the point where the democratic freedoms, the limited democratic freedoms that we do enjoy, are going to be incompatible with permanent austerity. They will create a problem. So when we talk about these people as fascistic, they're like, we want to keep this austerity going. We want to consolidate our power. The only way eventually for them to do that will be to remove those democratic freedoms. Absolutely. And I'm telling you guys, look at Australia. Just search for Australia lockdown. Find whatever you can find about it because it is bonkers over there,

what they're doing. Earlier I said name something. It was NSSM 200. It was Nixon doing population control. I just want to make that correction. Yeah. Look up the Twitter account, Amy Therese, and look at the mental health degradation that has been inflicted on the people of Australia. Now that's someone who's taking their Adderall. Again, you can find my work at, I have a podcast called Take Your Pill

Psychopath. We use comedy to talk about all sorts of mental health issues and sometimes I do a side podcast through that same thread called The Crazy Pill which is where we swallow insanity in order to puke out propaganda trademark. So that's like the political one. But you can find those wherever you listen to podcasts. And yeah, and if you're in the New York area, definitely check out this live weekly show. It's called Live from Outer Space. It's at

the Cobra Club. And on Twitter, I'm at TheRealJFod. Also on Instagram, at TheRealJFod. Yeah, if you're in New York, go check out John Live. He's got the best lithium chunk in the country. It's true. Motherfucker's a murder. Yeah. Thanks, man. Alright, well, thanks again to John. Thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting

this, for supporting us on Patreon. And I'm Sean P. McCarthy. I'm Yogi Paywool. I'm Andy Palmer, and I'm going to Builderberg Back Better. I'm Steve Jeffries. All right. Take care. Stay safe.

Get your boosters. Builderberg Back Better. I think Steve was just being polite, Yogi. Well, that's fair. I've been talking for a while i walked in and said john's a nerd so i'm clearly the fucking mad dog on the show no you're right you are being kind and polite unlike myself