Grubstakers - Episode 103: Gaston Glock

Episode Date: October 1, 2019

This week on Grubstakers we're discussing the billionaire who made a killing in the US gun market, Gaston Glock. Hear all about how this Austrian former Hitler Youth member got a government subsidized start building his glock 17 in Austria then plied police officers all across the United States with booze and prostitutes in order to get them to switch over their standard issue firearm to his brand. There's also tax dodging, a family feud, attempted murder, constant spree killings in the USA, and so much more. Our primary source for this ep was the book "Glock: The Rise of America's Gun" by Paul Barrett

I want to be held accountable for what I'm doing. This may sound like an exaggeration, but it was like the 9-11 of my career and certainly of making kombucha. Jesus is smart. This idea of income inequality, that always strikes me as a very, it's a deceptive term, income inequality. Well, let's flip it around. It comes from outcome inequality. In five, four, 3, 2, 1. Hello, welcome to Grubstakers, the podcast about billionaires. Today, as you might hear, we're talking about Gaston Glock and the firearms industry.

My name is Sean P. McCarthy. I'm joined by my fellow firearms experts. Steve Jeffries. Andy Palmer. And, you know, we talk a lot on this podcast about how billionaires maybe don't create anything, don't invent anything, don't really do anything, but Gaston Glock is not that person because today we're talking about a billionaire who created a murder epidemic. And you know and so I guess I just wanted to start before we even really get into what he is, who he is what he's

done uh do you andy steve do you have any personal experience with glock firearms so i've never actually fired a gun so all of my knowledge about guns comes in preparing for this episode yes um i've fired shotguns and 22s and one revolver right well that's about it well so i'll tell my stories in a second but you know like we talk about and of course these guns i have right here in the studio we went out to the range to record this episode so that we could get the live drops i've seen guns on tv it's fucking you were i've played golden eye and counter-strike it's too bad we don't have the video set up because watching andy flip between these guns just just put down the fucking mg-42 and pick up a sniper rifle within half a second and squeeze off around just in order to get the sound effect pretty incredible to watch but yeah so i guess what I wanted to say for Gaston Glock is that you might wonder what he's created.

And it's those stories you read about how the police officers shoot a guy on the way to his wedding 500 times. He created those newspaper stories because what happened in the United States is police officers used to carry six-shot revolvers. And then they switched to Glock 17s that have 17 rounds and a semi-automatic clip. And now it's like, you know, it's the preferred brand if you want to take out Sean Bell on the way to his wedding and shoot him 400 times. Because, you know, it used to be cops would squeeze off two or three rounds in an incident. But now the statistics say generally cops shoot at least five or six times in any shooting incident so you know that's that's just kind of what has changed changed in this country even as it has gotten safer you know of cops and everybody shoots more because everybody has semi-automatic pistols now there's a um fun

news story about a guy with a gun near the Empire State Building a couple years ago. And the cops came and shot him and all of the bystanders there were like five different bystanders who got hit. They all got shot by the cops. Yeah, I remember that. Glock is the preferred gun of police

officers who want to shoot somebody in their home or yard. Well, they're like, especially... We'll get into it, I guess. Wait, wait, he's reaching for a cell phone. Andy, he's got a cell phone! Whoa, whoa. IED!

He's trying to get his driver's license. Andy, driver's license! Good job. That's bullet impact body one one this is bullet impact body two he's trying to go to a wedding andy stop him before he reaches the wedding uh well we just passed the police firearms course uh but look well what i wanted to say is just like two random experiences before we get into the biography of of um gaston glock is uh growing up in seattle i had two experiences with glock which is one i called the the cops because my neighbor or my neighbor's house was getting broken

into i was like i woke up and i saw that some guy smashed the window and was crawling in so i called the cops and uh uh i didn't i was young and stupid i didn't know my neighbor's address so i gave them my address and i said it's the house next to that and the cops show up at my address and point a gun at me and make me and my brother get on the floor. And then they sorted it out later. But, you know, it's just one of those things where it's like it was kind of eerie reading this book. Because another thing about the Glock. Seattle's best. Not just a coffee.

Another thing about the Glock is they don't actually by default have an external safety. And it's also like a really light trigger. So there's like a five pound trigger as opposed to usually like a 10 or a 12 pound trigger so it was just interesting to read that and like know that the cops like had their finger right on the trigger which you're not supposed to and it's like yeah just just a light breeze could have ended my life right there oh and then the other story i have with glock is um when i was in seattle Seattle, I had a friend of a friend, friend of friends, I should say, who was a Coke dealer. And he was like, always kind of shady. Like, you know, I'd go over to like smoke pot with my friends and he would like show up and he would have a police scanner at my friend's house and he comes in uh with a glock and starts pointing at us and uh you know that'll really enhance the weed paranoia if

somebody is showing off their glock uh in a demonstration oh yeah i don't know if it was a glock but i do have a dumbass friend who like got really into guns for a bit um sean you know him oh he used to do a podcast with yogi and he pointed he he like pulled his guns out of his trunk and as a joke he pointed it at me and it was to listeners it might be funny but it wasn't that funny in the moment just having a low he i don't know if he was joking he's like it's loaded and i'm like oh know if he was joking. He was like, it's loaded. And I'm like, oh, cool, cool. He was like, ha ha, bring back the drops, Andy. But so the story of Gaston Glock and how he became a billionaire is basically supplying the United States Police Department and later the police departments and later the commercial market for guns in the United States. He's an Austrian inventor, but unsurprisingly,

the gun market in the United States is the motherlode, you know, like Beretta is an Italian company and, you know, they have lots of European companies who make their money selling guns to the United States because unsurprisingly, with our 33,000 annual gun deaths we lead the way for anyone who really wants to make bank uh supplying the tools needed to you know uh fucking kill your ex-wife for trying to take the kids away or whatever else you might use a gun for seems like an inefficient system like you know someone you know most of them are suicides and you might as well just put them back into circulation after that so that guy that guy's not using them anymore well it's interesting where uh i mean we'll get into this but glock's entire marketing strategy and how gaston glock became a billionaire was

selling to u.s police departments but then what they would do is they would buy the old glocks back from police departments and like give them a discount is they would buy the old glocks back from police departments and like give them a discount on like newer glocks or glocks with like even more fire power and then they would take those old police glocks and sell them back to the civilian sector so you know of course civilian buyers want what the cops will have or you know they want whatever the military has so it's it's a very good deal and glock for its entire company history has given a discount to police departments entirely because they understand that other other gun manufacturers have done this before glocks is just like expanding on it like the nypd uh for a while

they got really into buying 38 revolvers like in the 80s and um the manufacturer would buy them back from them so now nowadays there's a whole bunch of cheap like it's like often people's first gun it's like going and buying like surplus from the used like uh lightly used refurbished police issued guns like that right like and so the irony here is uh the bush administration actually made the atf the alcohol tobacco and firearms bureau made them stop publishing these statistics and i think 2002 early 2000s but they used to like check the brand of gun that was seized in criminal raids and they were finding unsurprisingly a large amount of the guns used to commission crimes were former cop guns so you have the irony of like uh former police officer weapons even

being used to kill cops or stick people up or whatever we have the environment to think about that's true uh but so i guess we coral reefs are dying. Yeah. But and so like the real catalyzing event. So I read this book Glock by Paul Barrett as a reporter. And it's pretty interesting. It just kind of goes through the biography of Gaston Glock, but also the history of the Glock 17 in the United States, where today it's the dominant pistol in the US market. And it's like an Austrian pistol, and it kind of goes through how that happened. Whereas, you know, before, cops in the United States, until like the late 80s, mostly carried revolvers, as we mentioned. And he points out, Paul Barrett points out, that even by like the mid to late 80s

in the Soviet Union, the cops had, you know, nine millimeter semi-automatic guns, whereas the U.Ss police were very slow to change and there's a an incident in 19 i think it's 85 there's a shootout um in miami between the fbi and two bank robbers where all the fbi agents have like revolvers and these bank robbers have semi-autos and you know uh two agents get killed um uh and three more get permanently injured and this is kind of like a catalyzing event where police forces throughout the United States start switching over to semi-automatics after they hear about this.

Police were still armed with those 1830s pistols. They're mostly wood. Right. They realized there's a problem here. Yeah. right they realize there's a problem here yeah they had they were tired of uh ramming the powder down to reload as the fucking bank robbers were going at them with m16s what is the difference between a revolver and a semi-automatic because i assume i thought semi-automatic just meant after you fire it's ready to fire the next one and a revolver revolver does that actually

i thought it cocks back on itself get back all no no not the ones the police i think we're using right in this shootout okay yeah i can't wait till the gun enthusiasts listen to this episode we're gonna call we're gonna use the terms magazines and clips interchangeably just to make you grind your teeth. I can't wait till he gets a firing pin. Yeah. Right. Like, so this book Glock by Paul Barrett, it like does provide a pretty good description of, you know, the Glock and what makes it different in the manufacture from other guns. But, you know, like I have no fucking idea.

So I just kind of I'm like, oh, so there's plastic in it. All right. That's the difference, you know. But we'll get to that in a second. I wanted to start with the biography of Gaston Glock. Gaston Glock was born 1929 in Austria. Forbes says as of today he's worth about $1.1 billion, but it should be noted, and we'll talk about it a little bit,

Glock Incorporated is privately held, so it's hard to understand uh how much money he actually has he also has set up a bunch of shell companies and according to paul barrett's book has engaged in clearly illegal tax avoidance using shell companies uh which we'll talk about but my point here is just we don't really know how much he's actually worth but forbes says about 1.1 billion dollars net worth he's also the creator of about 95 percent of the floor of the east river reclaimed land possibly in the future yeah yeah just little little barnacles living in inside hot glocks just like these have a gun island the new spongebob squarepants who lives in like a glock with the serial number scratched off thrown in the hudson river um so uh from the paul barrett

book glock uh the story of gaston glock is again he's born 1929 in austria uh he becomes an engineer he's interestingly enough drafted into the hit He becomes an engineer. He's, interestingly enough, drafted into the Hitler Youth at the later part of World War II. Just quoting from the book here, he says he was just a few days in camps of the German army during the later stages of World War II, either 1944 or 1945, around the time he was 15 or 16 years old.

He says that was his first time seeing guns and weapons he heard it was a fast track to becoming pope he said that was his first time uh uh seeing weapons he received weapons trainings but he claims he fled like after only two or three days though interestingly on other occasions he said that his training with the german military lasted only a single day so he's uh you know i mean we have no idea he's a big phony yeah he doesn't even know how long he trained with the nazis right but they gave him weapons training around the time he was 15 or 16 years old but that was kind of his only real experience in weapons he becomes an engineer uh he starts a manufacturing business uh outside a small town outside vienna um he's uh

working on car radiators and then he and his wife start manufacturing like curtain rods and hinges and then what happens in small town lintz yes uh what happens in um i believe it's the late 70s, he gets a contract with Austria's Ministry of Defense to supply field knives and bayonets to the Austrian army. So his wife and him are manufacturing curtain rods, and then he starts making these knives for the Austrian army. At his garage? Yeah. He's just, like, taking old curtain rods

and prying them open to make them bayonets, like filing them by hand he shows them five and they're all different lengths and like not really sharp they're like one of them sharp he's like oh that one that one is is worth 20 dollars 20 20 lira these are these aren't gonna work what are you gonna do you're the austrian military after world war ii like who are you gonna buy weapons from without the United States reestablishing a base in here? But so the story, and it's really full of company mythology where nobody really knows what happens. But the story is he has this contract to provide the Austrian army with bayonets and knives.

And the story is in 1980, he visiting uh the austrian uh ministry of defense and he overhears some people talking about how the austrian ministry of defense needs a new pistol they're still using i think the p38 luger you know the the world war ii uh nazi pistol uh and so they need a new pistol you know it's 1980 it's right at the end of its life. And what happens is... Wait, they were using the Luger until 1980? Yeah. Damn. But so the story that Gaston Glock tells...

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to glosten gaston glock we're talking about how the austrian military um the story is that he overhears these two officials talking about how they need a new gun having never designed a gun before he gets a bunch of gun acts experts together within like two years he builds the glock 17 having never designed a gun before um and the glock 17 is you know partially plastic it has a lot less parts than other similar guns at the time. It's more reliable. It jams less. But so the actual story that Paul Barrett lays out is kind of not the same as what Gaston Glock tells. Whereas, you know, like a lot of gun magazines will say, how did Gaston Glock design the best gun?

Because he had never designed a gun before. So it wasn't like Beretta or uh smith and wesson or whatever where they have these big departments and you just you can't innovate you know that's like the the whole argument is because gaston glock had never designed a gun before he could throw the rule book out the window and it seems like the actual story according to paul barrett is um they said that on the magazines? Various gun magazines. What about the clips? The actual story, according to Paul Barrett, is that it was kind of a political thing, where the Austrian military needed to switch its guns away from the Luger,

and Beretta was going to be given the contract, because Beretta had the best gun at the time, but Beretta was an Italian company. So the Austrian government, which was socialist at the time, at least nominally socialist, they said, we need an Austrian firm to make this gun. So the existing Austrian firm, their gun was kind of shitty. So what happened was two people from the Austrian Ministry of Defense kind of walked Gaston Glock through exactly what they needed in a gun. And it's in dispute how much they contributed versus how much he contributed but what was clear is that the

reason he became a billionaire was austria needed an austrian company to make this gun for the austrian military and so the austrian military really helped him set up and get everything he needed in order they approached him before he even made a gun uh well that's in dispute but uh like the way he says it is he heard they needed a gun and like pitched his services to them and then these two austrian military officials like really sat down with him and spent like two years kind of going through everything that they had learned about guns and helping him out to get everything just right you know and then like i believe they both later went on to work in his company but regardless the the point

i'm i'm getting at here is that it's kind of an accident of history where it's just the austrian government needs a domestic company to make their gun and uh i'm sure he's a smart engineer gaston glock but he clearly got a lot of help from people who didn't really get as much of a share of the proceeds as he did yeah they're willing to make like federal federally guarantee contracts for years and years right right once he could prove the concept yeah and and that's why we support socialism. Well, so it's interesting. Like, Gaston Glock is a member of the Austrian Socialist Party in the 80s.

But I think it's pretty clear that he's just doing that to get government contracts because they were the ones in power. And later on, we'll talk a little bit, he donates some of his massive fortune to the Austrian Freedom Party, which was founded by an SS officer. And the leader throughout the 80s made numerous remarks praising members of the ss and hitler and other such things um but you know we'll get back to that nothing says freedom like what andy work Like what, Andy? Work. But so he invents the Glock 17 in like 1981, 1982 is around the time. And in 1982, the Austrian Defense Ministry adopts it as their official firearm. And then from there, it's kind of on a rocket ship where, well, he makes this gun, which by all measures is a good gun. If you read Gun Enthusiast, they say it's a reliable, good gun.

It's not a bad gun. But how he actually becomes a billionaire is he finds someone else to market it for him to the United States, which, again, we've mentioned is the motherlode of selling guns. It's where all the money is. It's this guy named Carl Walter. In the Paul Barrett book, he writes about Carl Walter was an Austrian-born gun dealer living in the United States. Like, he would go up and down the East Coast and sell guns. And Carl Walter visits, he hears about, you know, this new pistol that the Austrian military has. He visits Gaston Glock in 1984 at his factory.

He tests it out. He's kind of blown away. And he tells him you know i can sell this to us that's a bad way to treat your potential business partner uh he he tells carl walter tells gaston glock uh i can sell this to u.s police departments and uh carl walter actually brings a writer from Soldier of Fortune magazine where the book describes how gun writers and guns... That's actually exactly what I told an Adderall distributor. The book describes how gun writers and gun sellers have kind of a symbiotic relationship where gun sellers can... Well, the main advertisers in gun magazines and gun

websites are, of course, gun sellers. So it makes sense that they kind of work hand in glove to, you know, give each other exclusive scoops and also to open up new advertising opportunities for each other. So this writer from Soldier of Fortune magazine visits Gaston glock and in 1984 he writes the first uh feature uh about the glock and how it's like a new wave of perfection and all this kind of stuff nice and um around this time gaston glock gets a sweetheart land deal from a small town outside vienna to set up his factory you know tax abatements and all that kind of stuff uh according to the book he's got about three dozen workers uh mostly turkish immigrants uh making the gun on the day-to-day basis oh another thing i found interesting is also around this time gaston glock uh prepares a special shipment for hafez el assad which is bashar el assad's father. This is around 1984. He has like a special inscription

where he sells, I think it's like a hundred to Hafez Assad's bodyguards. That's when he was the good guy, right? Yes. Let me just see if I can find this. Hafez al-Assad ordered Glock 17s for his presidential guard.

Gaston Glock prepared a special shipment of pistols for Assad with ornamental arabic inscriptions inlaid in gold and uh should be noted around this time that uh assad was sheltering a guy named um eloise brunner a-l-o-i-s uh it's a german name a former nazi who heinrich or sorry adolf eichmann described as quote quote, his best man, unquote. He'd been linked to at least 130,000 deaths during the Holocaust. And Assad was sheltering this guy because he trained Assad's security forces throughout the 70s and 80s.

Well, he sounds indispensable. Yes. He would later insult Assad and he would die in a Syrian prison in 2001. Owned. Yeah. later insult Assad and he would die in a Syrian prison in 2001 owned yeah but I'd like to imagine that those Arabic inscriptions were just like where is the library but it is just something where it illustrates that Gaston Glock never had a strong moral compass I think they talk about the guy the the Russian guy who invented the ak-47 had like had a lot of regrets about what his gun was used to do. Whereas Gaston Glock throughout his entire life has been like, it's not my fault about uh gatling and then alfred nobel where like nobel you know made dynamite gatling made the gatling gun the precursor of the machine

gun and they're all like very sad but it's also like what what were you expecting getting into the gun making business or i mean i guess nobel it makes a little more sense since it's used for mining but just fucking crying as they fuck supermodels on their pile of blood money you think gatling did that i don't know he was more proud of his plow apparently but what i wanted to say here is uh so uh gaston glock meets this guy carl walter and carl walter would later be fired by gaston glock which i think is i mean it just shows again and no loyalty because this is the guy who makes gas this is the guy who who makes gaston glock a billionaire uh because carl walter gaston glock barely speaks english he has no familiarity with

the american market he's just selling a pistol to the austrian military but carl walter realized there's a billion dollar market in the united states and carl walter has enough experience that he knows how to sell to police departments so call carl walter becomes his point man in the united states and in 1985 they set up a factory in atlanta um and gaston gluck sorry and gaston gluck is kind of an asshole boss throughout this time like he'll uh visit the united states and everybody working for him in the united states dreads his visits because he's such a piece of shit he's always he has like an entourage of austrian employees and he speaks to them in german about how incompetent the americans are and how his employees who are American are stupid just because they're American, you know.

So that kind of European. But I just liked from the Paul Barrett book, he said apparently Gaston Glock would complain when workers talked to one another on the job. He would say, like, if you have time to talk to one another, you should be working more. You know, just like that kind of boss. Gaston Glock gives this quote to a secretary, which is, quote, every morning you have to slap everyone on the head in case they did something wrong, end quote. So again, this kind of management technique, unsurprisingly,

is appealing to a man who invented a killing machine um but it is something where as gaston glock makes more and more money he becomes more and more detached and more and more up his own ass and thinking i did it all myself where it's very clear that his fortune comes from other people setting up his U.S. operations and then fucking bribing police officers to switch to the Glock. Right. Which we'll get to here. Oh, yeah. Another interesting thing is Glock.

Apparently, Gaston Glock complained when he visited the United States that one of his secretaries had bought, using company money, a $29 headset for answering calls to make it easier uh he was one of those people who like was really fucking stingy about company expenses on anyone else and he complained about them buying this 29 headset when the company was spending tens of thousands of dollars at a local atlanta strip club taking police officers out to get lap dances and possibly have sex with sex workers. Well, that's an important business expense. Yes. I mean, in fairness, that is pretty much the story of how they got police officers to adopt the Glock 17, which again, by all measures, it's a fine gun.

Well, yeah, I mean. Yeah, we're not here to trash the gun. Well, underneath all of the grafts yeah like um it's obviously a well-made gun but also it has like some unique features like really interchangeable products sorry interchangeable parts like um throughout most of the variants can accept most of the other versions of its clip sizes and munitions. Right. And, like, if you're the person in the police office who manages, like, the armory, that's a huge way to control your costs is to have, like, oh, I basically just need to focus on ammunition and i'm good like so if i need to uh reissue a bunch of like

glock 17s and um they need parts for in order to be repaired or something and there's a bunch of glock 19s sitting around you can you know cannibalize some of that and use it in the 17s yeah yeah so really interchangeable parts and like you know like it's glock's kind of an anomaly in that you know you have walter who's willing to who just happens to know everything about selling to u.s police police departments so that's sort of like the the lucky break i guess he got for the u.s market all right but um there were like some genuine sort of logistical and supply chain reasons for why police departments would really want to have that so like it it uses the most common ammunition types of like nine millimeter by 19 parabellum which is like one of the most common ones in the world and also 10 millimeter

he's like we're gonna get um people to uh shout this out in rap music, and that's going to make it a lot easier to plant on people that you just shot. Well, that's the thing is, I forget, I think it was an ABC story talked about how Tupac, of course, said, grab your glocks when you see Tupac, and then he was later murdered by a glock, 17. It's the circle of life, Hakuna Matata and all that.

Live by the pock died by the yeah sean it's time to do another advertisement oh is it yes it's that time again so this is this is another one they sent us um i guess it's a script so i i'm just gonna read this this script ad and uh hopefully it comes off all right do a little theater of the mind here. Alright. Open up, ATF. There are 17 ATF agents outside your door. We came

in an unmarked UN black helicopter. We are here to take your guns. Do you know what you would do in this scenario? Only Glock has a 17 round magazine or clip which are interchangeable terms. Can your gun kill all of the ATF agents outside of your door without reloading? Glock 17, the only way to protect yourself from the United Nations. Yeah. I guess we should make clear,

Grubstickers does not endorse killing ATF agents. It's just, you know, that's what the copy said. Oh, no? Yeah, that's what the copy said. So, look, we read the ads that people pay us to read, okay? We want to make sure everybody knows if you're an employee of the federal government, we would never endorse such a radical thing. I mean, that's another irony here is we'll we'll talk a little bit about of course the nra but you know wayne lapierre the nra president has compared atf agents to like

nazis coming to like take the guns and really stoked again this black helicopter united nations let's kill the fucking pigs when they try to take our guns shit so glock works with the nra on the one hand but on the other hand the bulk of their income is selling the guns to these you know jackbooted nazi thugs who are supposedly coming to take the guns so it's a real irony where on the one hand the nra sells guns to civilians by scaring people making them afraid that the fucking feds are coming to take their guns on the other hand even afford a black helicopter i'm sure it's not the the united nations ford windstar yeah but you know it is it is one of those ironies that glock manages to uh let's say uh tow the line pretty well stay in the middle of

the stream without getting pulled too far in one direction or the other but very clearly egging on both factions of this but so uh we wanted to mention here is how they start selling to police so according to the un has issued a resolution to condemn your guns uh so in 1986 the first u.s police department adopts the glock as its standard issue i believe like a year or two later miami adopts it it becomes like the first major police department and this is in the 80s you know there's a murder epidemic in miami so the cops they all feel out gunned they need you know semi-autos um but the story is that we mentioned, you know, Glock has this Atlanta facility. They do four day training sessions, uh, usually for police or military where the trainer usually a Thursday, they take everybody out to the Gold Club, a local Atlanta strip club. And apparently Glock people spend so much money there that Thursdays become Glock night at that strip club. And I just wanted to quote a former police official from the Paul Barrett book, quote,

For a lot of guys coming in from out of town this was the best time they were going to have all year or maybe in their entire life you go to uh the club oh you go to the uh glock facility you get laid at the best strip club in town drink champagne you're not going to forget the experience when it comes time to choose between glock and smith and wesson so the point is they take all these police officials out they uh introduce them to sex workers they spend you know ten thousand or however much on champagne and beer and shots and all that shit and then it's like they go back to their police department they're like yeah we should order the glock so and so sex work is work yes it is something where it should be noted the

gold club in atlanta would be later shut down by the FBI because the owners had mafia ties. So throughout the book, Glock officials deny, we never broke the law and provided sex prostitutes to cops. But it's very clear that they did. And, you know, that's one way to market your pistol. I would love for glock to come out as pro sex work the only way to be legalized and regulated that's all we're saying here well the fbi shut down that club for not recognizing sex workers work yeah um and so the other thing that happens is in the mid 80s there's a plastic gun scare gun scare. You might have seen this in some old-'80s movies about everybody gets freaked out that you can take these plastic guns through the airport and they won't show up on the scanner.

The Glock was never like that. It was only part plastic. It does show up on airport metal detectors and scanners. But it does become part of this Glock scare, plastic gun scare, where that actually in turn provides a lot more publicity where, you know, the Washington Post and such writes about it. And then all these civilian gun owners are like, oh, the government's going to try to ban it. I got to go buy a Glock.

And it's first mentioned in Hollywood in the movie Die Hard 2. Bruce Willis, Detective John McClane, he says, paraphrasing, he says, the bad guys had Glock 7s. You know what that is? It's a plastic gun, undetectable on a metal detector that costs more than you make in a month. So, like, you know, again, all wrong. But because it's mentioned in Die Hard, that also spreads awareness, publicity publicity all this kind of free publicity that you just can't buy i'm pretty sure the 3d printer industry used that like eight years ago that same marketing strategy where people like they're gonna be able to print guns yeah and it's like

any gun made of plastic is gonna blow up in your hand but yeah like uh so according to the paul barrett book apparently congress banned all plastic guns i don't know if they have since repealed that but it was something where they investigated glock and they instead just banned all plastic guns they didn't ban the glocks but glocks aren't completely plastic right they're only partially plastic but that is another thing a They have a metal firing pin. It makes it lighter. So when you're at a live podcast show, it'll... And other metal parts that I probably don't know about.

Be a lot more difficult, a lot easier to pull it out of your knapsack. There won't be as much drag or weight as competing models. Oh, I guess the ad reads over. But what I wanted to mention was uh another thing that helps police departments adopt it is glock engages in a revolving door with police departments which a lot of gun manufacturers do that's ironic yes so uh what glock will do is they'll start hiring former police procurement officers so if you're the police procurement officer or the guy at your local station who says let's all switch to glock and then you can retire and you have a do nothing

job with glock when you retire so the paul barrett book goes through a few different instances of that um i just have an office full of like weapons acquisition jerk-off rooms procurement yeah yeah procurement yeah but so you know it's uh it's really just kind of a rocket ship from here where uh according to the book uh glock in 1996 ships 213 000 pistols to the usa oh another thing carl walter comes up with is uh gaston glock wants because it's part plastic it's cheaper to make so their margins are much higher than other gun makers and so gaston glock wants to sell it for like cheap but carl walter's like no if you sell it for cheap then it'll be a cheap gun you have to sell it for like an expensive price so people will say oh it's you know a desirable quality item and so their margins are that much higher

because they're selling at full price but they're it's much cheaper to make that's interesting he wanted to keep it at the same price point in the market, pretty much. So there's some price administration discipline there. So you could say that extra margin is money for nothing. But I wanted to mention... No. Yeah.

I wanted to mention just kind of spree killing, which at this point, if you live in the united states you're pretty much used to it's it's not even a news story anymore it's the fucking section a8 of the new york times when 20 people get shot um yeah now on twitter when people are like can you believe there was another mass shooting it's like yeah well i i don't understand how people on twitter get mad when there's a mass shooting i mean i guess it's it's like yeah well i i don't understand how people on twitter get mad when there's a mass shooting i mean i guess it's it's probably the the better reaction but it's it's it's sort of like yeah those happen now but so one of the first that involved a glock was called the luby's

shooting in texas and the luby massacre in tex in 1991. Some guy drives his car into a restaurant in Texas, and he has a Glock 17. He murders 23 people before he's taken down. And I just found it a little disturbing because, again, this is 1991. And so Glock is, you know, inundated with press requests for comment and these sorts of things. And they don't really at first know what to do with the public relations, how to respond to this. But it was disturbing to me reading the book because the playbook is exactly the same as it has been since 1991. And I'll just read like a short bit here where a firearms lobbyist is advising one of the Gck in-house lawyers on how to respond to this massacre of 23 people make sure to say that this was a terrible tragedy whatever you do do not say no comment uh it was he insisted that glock hold a press conference uh empathize with the victims

and community obviously the killer was another crazy be sure to stress how it was the criminal not the gun tell the press how many police and law enforcement agencies are now armed with glocks and um this is another situation of a good gun with a guy yes and also i mean this is around where all those concealed carry laws start coming where every state passes concealed carry um a survivor of that massacre goes on to become a republican member of congress where she advocates for concealed carry and she said oh if i i'd been able to concealed carry there you know i could have stopped this guy i remember her saying that

on penn and teller's bullshit oh yeah about guns yeah oh yeah yeah i remember that episode that was the episode where they did the completely debunked statistic that uh concealed carry reduces crime rates which there's absolutely no evidence for um but regardless it was just kind of disturbing to me where it's like it's just the same playbook and we've all given up on the idea but another thing that happens is in 1994 there's the assault weapons ban which is a law that was full of holes where part of it was it was still legal to sell guns manufactured before the assault weapons ban so what glock does is they just turn the factory into overdrive and they until the law goes into effect they're like we're gonna make a ton of shit and we can actually now sell it for like double or triple the price so it doesn't really

reduce the amount of assault weapons at all but one i think sensible part of that law was they restricted magazine size to 10 bullets whereas again we mentioned the glock is 17 it's only 10 bullets per clip well there's various clip sizes yes but the idea of the idea legally is that 10 is the maximum and i think that's very sensible uh because the other thing is you know the guy who shot Gabby Giffords had a Glock with, I think, a legal 30 round clip magazine. 33. Yeah. Actually.

But the point is, you know, if you want to stop spree killing, which I think everybody's given up on the idea that we're going to have any sort of gun ban in the United States. But if you want to stop spree killing. You don't have given up on the idea that we're gonna have any sort of gun ban in the united states but if you want to stop spree killing where the money is at first right before but yeah the idea is that if you're gonna walk into a public place and shoot people you shouldn't be able to shoot more than 10 times before you have to reload which theoretically will give people an opportunity to get away or tackle the shooter or whatever else again the guy who shot gabby giffords had a 33 round clip magazine clip who uh he was tackled after he had to reload but of course he could kill you know six people and brain injure gabby giffords because it's a semi-auto so there is this 10 round limit in it of course george w bush allows it to expire it's never been brought back but it is something where gaston glock and glock incorporated of course lobby against these things and have never really taken responsibility or any of the gun companies for their role in allowing spree

killing to be that much more deadly when it does happen but yeah so as we mentioned uh up to this point glock is selling a ton ton of product in the United States. This assault weapons ban in 1994 is actually really what pushes the black helicopters, United Nations conspiracy theories that you see a lot throughout the 90s, where the NRA in particular... I don't think they can even afford that much black paint. The NRA in particular really pushes this, and it makes people, you know, of course, lobby, give money to the NRA because they're supposedly protecting the Second Amendment, but also buy guns and stockpile. the nra in 1995 the nra bought a full page advertisements in the washington post and usa today accusing the u.s bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms of terrorizing ordinary gun owners it was a large photo that showed helmeted black clad federal agents armed with sub machine guns breaking into a home uh clinton policies would lead the bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco and Firearms to, quote, intensify its range of stormtrooper tactics. And Wayne LaPierre, who was at the NRA, the current president, he distributed a fundraising

letter around the same time claiming the Clinton administration's semi-auto ban gives Jack Buttigieg government thugs more power to take our way our constitutional rights break in our doors seize our guns destroy our property and even injure or kill us uh he said not to quote not too long ago it was unthinkable for federal agents wearing nazi bucket helmets and subtext the government's gonna start treating us like we're black americans not too long ago it was unthinkable for federal agents wearing nazi bucket helmets and black stormtrooper uniforms to attack law-abiding citizens not today wayne lapierre in 1995 so i do just enjoy the irony of you know they say the left calls everyone nazis

it's like well they're calling atf agents nazis and probably uh providing um let's say incentive for right-wingers to murder them ignoring nazi cops yeah just kill black and brown people well you know what the nazis wanted to regulate tobacco hitler didn't smoke uh-huh um firearms according to what probably is just an urban myth and uh alcohol because they needed to power their v2 rockets but what i wanted to mention here is you know by the 90s we mentioned 1992 gaston glock fires carl walter the guy who made him a billionaire by selling to the united states um and just from there it's really been a wild ride of pure profit where glock is um huge chunk of the U.S. pistol market. I don't know the exact percentage, but I think they're even over half of the semi-automatic pistols sold in the United States, which is, again, the major market in the world.

And September 11th, of course, helps them even more, according to the Paul Barrett book. Of course, government contracts for glocks go through the roof according to the paul barrett book uh the u.s government buys more than 200,000 glocks to give to the iraqi and afghan police and military and also according to the book at least 80,000 of them went missing in iraq because it was of course you know there was so much fraud and waste in ir in Iraq that they bought these Glocks and gave them out and then they didn't have serial numbers or receipts so a lot of the people like suppose you know the Iraq a policeman or whoever they just sold their Glock

for $800 because the entire economy fell apart so you know these of course ended up in the hands of the insurgency and whoever else who could have seen any of this coming yes so they just lost track of 80 000 glocks in iraq but you know glock doesn't give a fuck this have happened glock doesn't give a fuck because they got paid and you know uh all sorts of special forces the fbi and dea switched to glock in 2000 i believe um nypd gives officers three choices one of which is a glock so it is uh that is the bulk of their money is selling to cops but then also buying back from cops reselling to civilians and having civilians want to have what the cops have none of the nypd cops ever choose the 1810s wooden pistol anymore that That's one of the three choices.

Oh, I should mention, in 1985 Gaston Glock sets up a shell company in Luxembourg and he gets the guy, he gets a shady guy to set up his shell company and this shady guy later tries to murder him. You usually try to get like a legit guy to set up your shell

company. Well, so the story is, in 85 to murder him usually try to get like a legit guy to set up your shell company well so these the story is in 85 gaston glock sets up a holding company in luxembourg and uh they set up in turn this guy sets up a bunch of other fake shell companies and what these shell companies will do is they the holding company is given a 50 share of of Glock Incorporated, but Gaston Glock, when he was deposed during a trial, denied that he had any idea who owned the shell company that owned 50% of his company. And of course, it was him. He still owns the shell company. But these shell companies will send fake invoices to Glock Incorporated. They have one in Ireland, one in Panama.

They'll send these bills to glock incorporate it uh for fake services and then they will reduce their reported revenue to the irs and the austrian taxing authorities and according to a whistleblower in the paul barrett book glock was dodging i believe is still dodging about nine to ten million dollars in u.s taxes annually just by having these shell companies send fake invoices and lower the amount they're reporting to u.s tax authorities well this is going to be really unpopular with the people who are stockpiling his product um but oh yeah so the story with this guy who sets up his shell company in luxembourg

uh is glock finds out that this guy has been stealing from him which is you know it's just horrifying that the man who helped you avoid hundreds of millions in u.s taxes would take a little taste for himself but so glock gaston glock finds out this guy's been skimming a little off the top so gaston glock calls him and says it says we got to meet in luxembourg we got to have a serious conversation and this guy recognizes gaston glock is very disturbed or like sounds angry you know so in 1999 um i forget how old glock was then oh he was 80 years old uh glock's 80 years old he goes out to Luxembourg. He meets this guy, and this guy says, before we go to the meeting, I got to show you this cool luxury car that I got. So he takes Gaston Glock to a garage.

They walk down to like the third level, so they're totally alone, just him and Gaston Glock. And he shows him this luxury car. And then a former member of the French Foreign Legion comes out of the shadows and starts hitting glock with a rubber hammer but because glock had been like swimming his entire life uh swimming you know miles a day he's actually able to fight off this former member of the french foreign legion i guess the legionnaire guy was 69 glock was 80 which again you know get a younger hitman if you're gonna do this also if you're gonna kill a gun manufacturer don't come at him with a rubber hammer it's weird that like did he get it at a street carnival before he he was unarmed right so the paul barrett explanation in the book is that uh glock uh glock's associate

wanted to make the murder look like an accident so their idea was they could do an accident kill hitman style if they hit him with a rubber hammer and said he fell downstairs but it is at it is entirely unclear if rubber hammer blows would look like falling downstairs injury at all it just seems like a really stupid hit attempt also the fact that he lures him into a garage where the hitman is and then like i mean it's very hard to get plausible deniability in when you are the one who brings him to the scene where the hitman just happens to be waiting i mean if if you manage to kill him i don't think anyone's gonna be like hey glock said that you were going down to a garage with him because you they lost their prime witness yes that is true um but you know so regardless glock survives the way it's told

is glock like uh beats this guy and like knocks some of his teeth out and apparently they pass out on top of each other and then the cops find them like that. But Glock survives. You know, he loses some blood, but he's okay. And both the hitman and Glock's former associate are convicted in Luxembourg court. I think the hitman does like seven years. The associate, I believe, is still in prison today in Luxembourg. I think Glock wasn't armed. Yeah, he gets like a 20-year sentence yes for whatever

reason you know we can still carry in luxembourg glock did not have his gun um but it is the kind of thing where you know you deal with shady people who are thieves who set up tax avoidance shell companies and then this kind of thing happens. But, you know, Glock has been very good at – Gaston Glock has been very good at spinning all these things in his favor where the Luxembourg court actually establishes that the shell companies are engaging in tax avoidance. But, of course, it's Luxembourg. They don't give a shit.

That's what their entire economy is based on. Yeah. So they just have to establish who owns what, like whether or not Glock or his associate actually owns the thing. And in doing so, they lay out the entire tax avoidance scam, which Paul Barrett goes through in the book. But it is something where, of course, Luxembourg has no penalties for that. And so Gaston Glock is able to get some sympathy from this murder attempt. And then later, some of his lawyers are also embezzling from him. One of the lawyers gets charged with embezzlement.

He flees to the Netherlands, where he's later extradited back. And he actually became the IRS whistleblower we mentioned. But the other thing is, of course, the IRS can't use that because he fed a felony or at least that's what paul barrett seems to imply where this irs whistleblower can't be a reliable witness for the irs because he fed fled embezzlement charges so glock gets away with a lot he fled a flat out he fled from a phlebotomist god damn it and you know glock uh of course the factory in atlanta means that they have a lot of political donations to georgia and atlanta politicians where another thing this irs whistleblower alleges i think very credibly is glock has engaged in a lot of illegal

political donations where he'll give you you know, say $60,000 to his employees, and he'll say, each of you are donating $2,000 to ex-Georgia congressional candidate. So Glock will do straw donors, which is another felony, to fund local Georgia politicians who will, of course, protect his interests in the congress uh i hope the fec doesn't get wind of this and he'll be in trouble yes and uh i guess i wanted to i wanted to read a quote here of a one of the former lawyers who stole from glock his quote that paul barrett uh quotes as to uh why he stole from glock glock not Snow White. He's got a lot of skeletons. He's done, in my mind, a lot of things

that are much worse than what I and the other lawyer did. He makes roughly $200,000 a day. He personally. He spends money on mistresses, on houses, on sex, on cars. He bribes people. He's just a bad guy. And with all this money laying around, he needed it

like a hole in the head and we just you know we let our greed and our ethical standards slip it wasn't like we were stealing from mother teresa and uh he also i believe compares glock to like a person engaged in racketeering where it's like very clear that he is where another thing paul barrett lays out is glock is like sexually harassing various employees uh canceled he hires this assistant and he's always grabbing her in public and in these sorts of things and uh making her uh do errands for his mistresses and all this other stuff where i mean the guy is a fucking criminal he's engaged in criminal tax avoidance he's in great engaged in uh criminal

bribery in the term form of political donations so it's yeah the lawyers have a point they're stealing from a criminal which i you know one of them is doing a seven-year sentence in georgia but that's not the worst crime going on here it's just a case where he has set up in Atlanta and employed some people in Atlanta and made political donations. So, of course, the Georgia legal system is going to say we will protect Glock and we will prosecute these people stealing from him. Right, right. All right. So with the time we have left here, I just wanted to mention a few miscellaneous things about Glock himself. He apparently, so he's 90 years old now wait do do you want youtube to do the talking on this one oh

yes here's a youtube video describing gaston glock how he created the empire that we now know as glock gaston's still alive right now doing real well he's 83 he's got a 31 year old wife we're gonna talk about that she's smoking hot but did you guys realize that 1999 someone tried messing with gaston all right uh what is that from weapons and something or other.com yeah it's uh weapons education yes from a guy who is clearly drunk. Later in the video, he urges you. He says, she's hot. You should go and you should look up her picture right now.

It's actually inspiring to see someone so successful in media who's drunker than we are. So Glock, the 31-year-old wife, Glock divorces his wife, who again helped him make the curtain rods and the knives and the factory and all that. He divor where the wife used to own 15 now she owns like one percent uh she sued him twice both of the suits got thrown out but another thing that his 31 year old wife does entirely plausible i mean if you're gonna be if you're 30 and you're gonna marry a guy who's on his deathbed you're 30 and you're going to marry a guy who's on his deathbed, you're going to cut the family out of that will. His new wife has the Glock. I think it's a horse training academy. It's just one of those things that Glock set up in Austria to do. Apparently, also, Gaston Glock spent $15 million on a prize horse for his wife,

which was, at the time, a record-setting price for a horse. That's right. He's in the horse sphere of billionaires so there are non-horse billionaires that we've covered in horse ones uh glock also has claimed just imagine that her as a little girl you know not very long ago playing with horses and she's like i'm going to start the greatest horse academy and her friends are like no you're not and she's like yes i'm going to start the greatest horse academy. And her friends are like, no, you're not. And she's like, yes, I will. I will find a way. So Glock has also, according to the Paul Barrett book, he's told, Gaston Glock has told friends he intends to live to be 120. He's 90 years old now.

And he does this by eating a dietary supplement he calls Megamine, which apparently is volcanic ash. He said it's derived from volcanic ash and he says by eating volcanic ash that has like minerals and other properties that allow you to live to 120 um yeah that's that's some austrian austrian guy's shit yeah that's a little known fact is that you can live longer by eating rocks a derivative of volcanic ash which when ground finally and taken orally could enter human cells and purge them of impurities he's eating sand it came out recently that life expect i mean it didn't come out recently it's kind of been known for a while but life expectancy if you're uh under a certain income is dropping and then of course life expectancy is increasing if you're over a certain income and it's just like knowing that

and then realizing that like there's this one billionaire who's 90 and perfectly healthy who eats sand on a daily basis is just the extra slap in the face like he's just showing off the him eating sand is could go down as like one of the things preventing him from living to 120 like otherwise his lavish lifestyle and like generally okay eating eating habits otherwise would get him there yeah that's like the sand he holds him back that's that's their like uh amongst billionaires that seems to be their greatest weakness is their own ideas of what constitutes good health like steve jobs obviously um he's italian guy he probably uh drinks a fair amount of red wine yeah sorry he's austrian guy that drinks a fair amount of red wine there's more white wines over there

it's negated by volcanic ash he's like I eat ash to live longer it's so pure I have it imported directly from Poland originally manufactured in the 1940s

it was a good year do you know that there was a fad in the 19th century where people would eat mummy dust really that doesn't surprise me yeah it was supposed to be healthy but it was just literally like it's like a snake oil salesman he's like cannibalism

what it says formaldehyde no no it was like it was supposed to be chunks of Egyptian mummies ground up. Those probably, like... So wouldn't that just be old formaldehyde and stuff? I don't think they had formaldehyde then. Oh, they didn't? Okay. No, I think that's a recent invention.

Some other embalming fluid. Yeah. Yeah. Well, regardless, you know, Glock is 90 years old now. In August of this year, year 2019 he celebrated his 90th birthday the daily mail pointed out that naomi campbell noted sex trafficker was there uh naomi campbell was there hugh grant was there john travolta was at his 90th birthday party and the daily mail wrote an article about how they're hypocritical because they they do little instagram

statements about stop the gun violence while also hanging out at gaston glock's 90th birthday party but i i'm more interested about his jeffrey epstein connection with naomi campbell being there um but you know it is something where he's 90 years old he's apparently fired his three children from the company he's got his mistress uh in line to take over the company i support that yeah down with nepotism uh he's got his mistress uh in line to take over the company i support that yeah down with nepotism uh he's got his mistress in line to take over the company his wife ex-wife has tried to sue him a couple times but those suits have been thrown out so it is something where we'll see what happens to both the company and the money when he dies but i wanted to close out with just a little bit of the austrian freedom party you think his current wife told him to do the sand thing because she knows that like if he lives to 120 he's gonna divorce

her when she's 40 she's just tired of waiting around she's like i married this guy when he was fucking 80 and he's not done yet like what can i get him to eat the volcanic sand was her idea yeah yeah honey have you thought about eating diesel fuel like if you just put a bit of diesel fuel in the coffee you know like tanks use it and so if you're like a tank like that's more durable no it's organic diesel fuel it's biodiesel yeah it's fossils you know it's just like the ash it comes from fossils so you're actually eating the ancient creatures and you get their tyrannosaurus strength when you eat old things you'll also be old you know maybe the volcanic ash thing isn't enough maybe you should uh huff pure sulfur um but i wanted to mention the austrian freedom party uh so we mentioned gaston glock when he

was originally getting austrian government contracts in the 80s uh he was a member of the austrian socialist party unsurprisingly after he became a billionaire he became a fascist the austrian freedom party was founded by a former ss member Its leader in the 1980s, up until I think he died in 2008, was a guy named Jorg Hader. And so he, just from the Paul Barrett book, he served many years as the governor, as a governor in Austria. He was notorious internationally

for making a series of provocative pro-Nazi statements in the 1990s. He praised elite SS troops as, quote, men of character, and he hailed the wisdom of hitler's quote orderly employment policy unquote well i mean david bowie said those same things when he was uh fucked up on cocaine in the 80s but so the paul barrett book goes through uh one time an american lawyer went out to visit glolock in Austria and they went to get a

beer and then Hader showed up and they were like Glock and Hader greet it like heroes. And the lawyer described it as beer hall, putch redux. So, and Glock also sued some Austrian media outlets for implying he was supporting Hader, but he very clearly gave

financial support to hater and at a later point he took hater out to america uh glock did and he got him in touch with some american pr people to try to repair his international image for these hitler comments and interestingly enough it became a minor note in the Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton abortive Senate race for New York. When Rudy Giuliani originally thought he was running for Senate, this hater guy shows up at a New York dinner on Glock's invitation that they were that Rudy Giuliani was at. So Hillary Clinton puts out a thing about how Rudy Giuliani was at this dinner with a neo-Nazi. And Rudy Giuliani was like, I had no idea who that guy was. But it's more illustrative of the fact that Glock is funding a neo-Nazi. And that's where his political loyalties lie.

And that's what, you know, he'll yell at you if you buy a $29 headset. But if you're, like, funding the Hitler had an orderly employment policy guy that's a good use of company money that was probably like the third worst person that giuliani affiliated himself with in that room on that night yeah but um you know that's the story of gaston glock a uh a fascist who uh makes money on both ends of uh giving arms to the jackbooted Nazi thugs, giving political support to the Austrian jackbooted Nazi thugs, but also giving political donations to the NRA as it says you should murder jackbooted Nazi thugs if they try to take your guns or pass any sort of regulation.

And again, his fortune is based on murder. His fortune is based on the 33,000 gun deaths in the United States every year. And there are lots of modest steps he could take to mitigate some of those gun deaths. And he fights them tooth and nail at every step. And with that. Yes. But we'll see what happens with Glock. We'll see what happens with his kids. We'll see what happens with guns in the United States.

I think I have a sound effect for the future of Glock. Wait, Andy, can you play... The phasers. Could you play what happens when his mistress finally gets tired of him in five years? Hello, 911? My husband just shot himself. He was using a Glock 17 It fired four times God damn it Alright

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