Grubstakers - Episode 230: A Very Special 420 Episode

Episode Date: April 22, 2021

Almost just in time for 4/20, the guys take a break from the billionaires grind for a low-key episode about some sketchy businesses. Steven's audio is messed up in this one because Andy forgot to press a button on the recorder and Andy is very sorry.

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This is a special, special episode and joining me are my Cheech and Chong fanatics, the Snoop Dogg friends, the THC in Grubstakers. Steve Jeffries. Sean P Andy Palmer and today we're going to be doing our 420 episode and that's right hell yeah if we were a more serious uh podcast we would have recorded this on like 419 maybe put it out on 420 but no no no your boys are committed to the cause of 420 and we're making sure to really stretch our limits on when we can record this episode yeah 420 episode at grub stakers means recorded on 420 not released on 420 correct yeah we were gonna release means recorded on 420, not released on 420. Yeah, we were going to release the podcast on time, but then we got high. We're having fun over here.

This is what we're going for. And, you know, we want our listeners to know that this is, you know, our 420 special. We plan on doing that every year. We're really trying to chill out with the listeners and really get into some cool stuff about 420, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Usually, usually our podcast is pretty dark and depraved and that's not, it's not always a good vibe. And we want to, we want to bring you guys like for 420, a chill vibe. You feel me? Like we want you to be able to like toke up hang back and just listen to an episode of your third favorite podcast right and like before we even go further in this episode i would recommend the listeners get like super high oh yeah like just the kind of high where

you're you're gonna go down a dark, paranoid spiral if we start talking about any un-chill things. Like, get high like you're listening to it on the same day that we recorded it. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really commit to the bit, by the way. We did. Yeah. I'm going to try to bring the chill. I'm pretty chill right now. I up up late last night celebrating 420. i was uh i was posting on stormfront.org in celebration of adolf hitler's birthday nice nice nice yeah solid 420 move bro steven how are you celebrating your 420 uh i'm well let's see. I... You know, this generation of ours, it's the greatest.

Oh, yeah. Right? That's like kill shit, bro. We've got legal drugs now in our state of New York anyway. Oh, yeah. Hopefully the rest of the country soon. Indeed. Yeah. You know what I like

about legal drugs is they're going all the way to corporate America so for our 420 episode we decided to bring you guys some of the best strongest facts about 420 and uh to open this bad boy up let's get our main man Steveve the long drags jeffries to really get into some good 420 dirt guys before we start though i do have one question what if adolf hitler smoked weed oh shit imagine like like you go back in time and you don't kill them. You just get them high. Yeah. Oh yeah. And then he'd be like,

damn man, the Jews are people. I'll tell you what happens if you give Adolf Hitler weed. He is the top student at the Vienna school of art. They should have given the Vienna School of Art Chancellor dude just like art student Hitler who like gets laid and smokes

pot just like hanging out with Trotsky in Vienna just having a good time dropping tabs and then he later later gets killed by the communist so so landscape oh yeah you know they don't they don't report on this because of because of big pharma but i'm pretty sure that weed can cure having a a penis that's fused to your leg

dude the deepest cut is is hitler was a communist agent the whole time so he was sent to infiltrate the nazi party as an agent of the communists and then he uh took over the german military on behalf of the soviet union and uh ordered that there were to be were to be no strategic withdrawals so that german forces would constantly be surrounded and cut off uh so that uh the soviets could dominate the eastern block of europe based yep this is hitler every day i don't know why stone hitler is hilarious to me like at no point am i like that's a guy i could have a beer with but for some reason stone hitler i'm like you know what if you really wanted to play contra i'd be like okay well maybe we're going to two rounds but once you're out of lives you're out buddy this is like this isn't an episode this

is where workshopping my new 20 minutes of stand-up when i get back is what if instead of hitler's doctor giving him meth right he gave him weed. Mm-hmm. And then you know he'd have to deal with a part where he's like, I'm smoking too much. I got to fucking cut back, bro. I'm not going to get my art degree with all this weed in my system. And he goes sober, and he goes to rehab, and this is what happens. Man, this is some bullshit.

Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick from Coke. I see them now that's an addiction man you ever suck some dick for marijuana and then hitler's like you know what maybe i'm not smoking that much maybe i can cool we all need a little bit of levin's wrong man wait i'm sure we've got at least one listener who smoked dick for weed. Wait, here's my impression of Adolf Hitler hitting the bong. Did I get a little sound effect? Yeah, you got it.

I think the generals are plotting against me, man. They're trying to assassinate me dog yeah how do you break it to hitler if he like gets all his paranoia and is like i think everyone hates me like you can't be like no hitler come on come, Hitler. Come down to the bar. Stoop some women. Have fun, Hitler. Yeah, there must have been some people at some point that were like, you know what? Hitler's being a drag. We got to take him out to really loosen that guy up.

Because I, you know, he keeps cutting his hair weird like this other guy. And I honestly, I just, I just, I'm worried about him, you know? Actually, the July plot was intended to restore vibes to Germany. Actually, Hitler became an anti-Semite when a Jewish guy sold him a dub that was just 0.7 grams. But this is our 420 special episode this is peak grub stakers this is dark morning zoo oh yeah we are here to celebrate 420 and do an episode about what everybody thinks about when they think 420 and i believe steve has the first bit of research into that.

You don't realize how high you're getting. It's too late. Right. Well, so, right. The 420 I know is the one where you think questions like, so we all know Hitler was a powerful dictator, right? But did you also know that he was

insanely wealthy? I did not know that. I did not know that he was insanely wealthy. Yeah, I mean, he's got this whole sob story about growing up poor. But actually, he's very underappreciated as a grifter who became wealthy. Yeah. So prior to 1921, essentially, when Hitler first became party leader of the Nisdap Nazi party he was that was

basically you know he was a soldier in the German army in World War I he was a kind of drifting around from various shelters after his mother passed away and he ran out of income doing odd jobs.

But finally, though, so after the war and when he later becomes an intelligence agent, he's tasked with infiltrating what would later become the Nazi Party. And as the story goes he eventually just stays and becomes member number 555 of the nazi party and it's at this point that about a year into his tenure as the party leader in 1921 he starts giving himself some pretty ridiculous salaries as the party as the party

leader i like to imagine the people who actually like lit one up in expectation of the 420 episode are slowly realizing what this episode is actually about right now by the way uh what what number did you say hitler was five five four five five five five five five five did did you know that they actually uh put this is true they i think the first five was added there to make it look like they had 500 more members than they actually did oh really Which is the kind of idea you get on weed. Did you know that chill Vienna art student Hitler, he had them change his registration number to 420?

Even though there weren't 420 members in the party. Even though that wasn't a thing yet. Right, right. It's true, actually. You know, 420 used to be a national holiday in Germany before neoliberalism. They were much more tolerant of marijuana. Yeah. Originally, the German Workers' Party was about getting high.

Oh, yeah. But Germany, well, the party changed after Hitler got there. What? Yeah, unfortunately. well the party changed after hitler got there what yeah unfortunately i was gonna win on the eastern front but then i got high i'd love to think anyone that's like that like dense just like what when hitler joined that's when germany changed like they have no idea this is hitler watching a cowboy movie with his fellow nazis uh showing manifest destiny where they go into the west and kill everyone

bro we should we should do that we can do that we can do that in russia bro i'm telling you man it's gonna work so prior prior to him being party leader, like I was saying, he was pretty much working class. But once this guy got his shot, man, he really didn't look back. There's a Hamilton song about that. What? There's a Hamilton song about that. His initial source of wealth, funnily enough was from well he he basically was a poster who finally got his book deal oh really and so he wrote his book mind comp and while he was in

jail from doing a failed um coup attempt it was originally on Substack. Yeah. He moved over to Substack and they paid him a ridiculous signing bonus. You know, if you read the first letter of each chapter of Mein Kampf, it spells

out smoke weed every day. Some of you might be pulling out your copy of Mein Kampf and being like, no, it doesn't, but that's the translation. spells out smoke weed every day. Some of you might be pulling out your copy of Mein Kampf and being like, no, it doesn't, but that's the translation, bro. That's right. That's right. They're hiding the truth from you, bro. Got to read it in the original German.

The CIA doesn't want you to know that Adolf Hitler smoked weed. He wrote this in 1923, partly while he was in jail, and then the party helped him. Fur pot. He wrote this in 1923, probably while he was in jail, and then the party helped him. For pot. Additionally for pot money. But then later, the party helped him publish it,

and it got very little attention for the first couple of years until he started making regular appearances as the party leader, and their votes in the right stats started to pile up. But later on, it became one of the main ways in which the Nazi party got revenue. And so according to this Smithsonian documentary

called Hitler's Riches, one of the historians of this book said, quote, to be frank, it wasn't a very good read. As like explaining the understatement of last century. Right, right. Trying to explain its low revenue numbers. But eventually as he got more experience as a speaker, and people recognized him as a national level leader,

he would eventually go on to earn the equivalent of $6.5 million just from the book. his like he was earning 10 royalties from the book and then the party got the rest and he got about 6.12 and in deutschmarks that was at the time that was probably about what 12 trillion uh i can back out of that number back into Deutschmarks if you want. It's hard enough to get into dollars.

I want the ones where they had to buy bread with the wheelbarrow full. I want to share an important idea I just had. Alright, so imagine like a historical Seth Rogen buddy comedy. Seth Rogen plays like a weed-smoking California

Jew in the 1930s. Sure, of course. And you know how in medieval times, the leaders of armies would sometimes duel, and then that would determine who wins the battle rather than having the armies actually fight one another? Right, right. So, Seth Rogen, his character in this movie flies to Germany and has a smoke-off adolf hitler to determine if the holocaust happens or not and if he can outsmoke hitler then there's no holocaust right of course that's already a better movie than inglorious bastards and i like inglorious bastards yeah i mean sean that movie is great because if seth rogan stops the holocaust he then comes back

to a world where he might not be a celebrity he's just another guy there's like montages of adolf hitler doing like weed training over the uh hearst weasel song for nazi marching songs he's just like hitting these these multi-chamber gravity bongs to prepare his lungs for facing seth rogan oh yes the famous beer hall putsch i'm picturing archival footage of hitler giving a speech but there's like three different bongs on the table next to him he's just it's like a he's doing he's doing a hit between

each like stanza of his speech basically they shoot it like Lenny Riefenstahl style with the cameras on cranes the overhead shots of bongs being hit a Nazi leader has to like put his joint in the other hand to do the informal heil it's like it's like the nuremberg mass rally where they all take a

hit and they exhale and there's like a swastika of marijuana smoke wafting over the Nuremberg. How did they make it to Ostrava? Did I tell you guys that I've actually been to the Nuremberg parade grounds? It's still there. And you can go to the platform that Hitler was on and there's like a plaque or something. And I remember being there and not on the platform, but just a little ways away from it

and then looking over at the platform. And there was a lady being there and not on the platform but just a little ways away from it and then looking over at the platform and there was a lady standing there not reading the plaque just like looking out and clearly imagining what it must have been like to be the one speaking there jeez i want to go there and be like so is anybody here on tinder just do like a hacky stand-up bit from them but with all the hitler arm gestures oh yeah gesticulations so that the 6.5 million number is prior to 1933 and becomes chancellor then it just skyrockets from there because he's able to get this to force the state to purchase millions of copies of his book and then uh so he pockets that income and he's earning a lot from that just from the book alone but then he also has like his royalties from just like random like advertisements and shit that use

his face you know what he was smoking like Like his likeness or whatever. When he thought of these good ideas. That earned him, those book royalties went on to earn him at least $300 million over his lifespan. Wow. He also made a lot on the cross-branding Adolf Hitler

butane lighter. Yeah. It's a Hitler zippo. Hitler mustache wax. Also a big seller. Big seller. I imagine Hitler meeting with like a marketing manager. And he's like,

I'm thinking like this movement. It's about the movement. It's not about any individual person. And then the marketing manager slips over a piece of paper with the royalties that he would get if he put his face on everything. And he looks at it and does like a cartoon, like, the other.

So yeah, the, and the book basically made him to begin with. Right. But after that, once he's chancellor and finally the Fuhrer, he paid himself huge salaries of several million, up to 15 million a year was just his salary in today's dollars. And another thing he did was just make money by not paying taxes king so he didn't pay taxes on any of his uh his book deals uh after becoming uh chancellor now you see that i have a problem with yeah i mean hit, bad guy, right? But did you know that he was a tax evader?

Wow. Well, he's the Fuhrer. His word is the law. It's not illegal for him to not pay taxes. He's the sovereign, I guess, so you could make a case. But yeah, so all told, it's estimated by some sources that he made around $150 million a year after he became chancellor. And his highest net worth was probably around $6 to $7 billion. What? Yeah. And, you know, with dictators, it's kind of like Forbes doesn't estimate the wealth of dictators because it's like they have a bunch of shit that's not really in their name they just make use of it

because of power because the distinctions might get blurred a little too much for their comfort it's not it's like debatable if Hitler his name was like really on all the properties he used and shit but like he's pretty much a billionaire wow so therefore this is a legitimate grubstakers

episode well now we have an easy answer whenever someone's like so who's the worst billionaire yeah basically i think people have this uh they have this view of Hitler as coming, they sort of believe his bullshit about, oh, I just worked really hard, and eventually I became recognized for my speaking prowess. Well, actually, as bad as what he said was, he was also a grifter on top of that. Yeah.

And it usually just pales in comparison to his crimes but it was like i was like damn he's a billionaire i didn't know that but it obviously makes sense yeah it's like you write a book and then you become the dictator and you can make everybody buy your book yeah oh i should i should mention uh one of the things they did was like with all the books that he forced the state to buy he gave it away to every newlywed couple because they're just like we have like a fucking million books stacked up what would the fuhrer want as i said in the jfk part two episode and i still believe this that the idea to buy a bunch of JFK's books to juice the New York Times thing, I'm pretty sure Joe Kennedy got that idea from Hitler.

Yeah, I can see it. It's a similar concept to New York Times bestseller methodology. It must be difficult to be like a newly married couple trying to read Mein Kampf and you just get too horny to continue. Well, it's also like you're giving married couples just one copy. Like, what's the other partner supposed to read? That's right. There's a special edition of Mein Kampf that he commissioned that has like a special fold out bud tray where you can break up marijuana. It's like a very, very tiny Hitler music box, and this is what

it plays. It's like Hitler's favorite brand of rolling paper. Right. It's like a sample is inside. Yeah, you actually get two copies of Mein Kampf, one with the book and one that's hollowed out. The only rolling papers that fight jewish bolshevism all right it's time for us to buckle down and get serious no i i ate half of one of those high- powered candies so we have a hard out when that hits

yeah i got i have this edible thing that says it's 200 milligrams and i'm like what so how much of this am i supposed to eat like one bite how do i how do i measure out this bite it is funny how like with milligrams i've done them enough to where part of me is like oh how often are you smoking only once a month and how many how much you think you're thinking you need 2.8 milligrams like i get very specific when someone's like i don't know how much to take i'm like i can i can probably eyeball it for you based on your weight height and just general chill vibe but so before i start my bit of research here i do have a little scenario to walk you guys through you know it's sort of

an alternate history we were kicking it around yesterday in the discussion meeting and i think to understand this alternate history it's important that we accept the hypothesis that there are infinite universes right of course so that every single, every single possibility in human history is occurring in some alternate universe. Sure, sure. And the scenario that I lay out to you here, there is an alternate universe where this all takes place. If you've seen Man in the High Castle, it's, you know, it's one of those. Right, right. So this alternate.

It's implied that there's there's all these alternate it's sorry go on yes no no no this alternate uh history alternate universe uh somewhere out there it's it's everything has occurred exactly the way we understand it up until 1941 you know the nazis are at war they've taken power they've sent out uh these lists to round up you know uh jewish populations in poland more on how they did that later yes the netherlands france they've all rounded them up they've loaded them into passenger and cattle cars they've sent they've told them to pack one suitcase with all their possessions they're going to be sent to the east to work right they uh they get put on these trains they get sent out to these camps

these work camps and uh the trains unload there's people shouting at them in german you know uh beating them with whips right uh there's there's a selection a sorting process on the ramp and um these these individuals many of them are told they're going to be taking a shower. So they're asked to undress. They undress. They go into this shower room. The door is sealed shut behind them, and there's pitch blackness. They don't know what's going on. They're scared. There's children crying. But then they hear the faint sound of a gramophone speaker, and it's playing this song. What are you trying to get crazy with this thing? Don't you know I'm local? And then smoke starts billowing into the chamber, and they're panicking.

They're shouting gas gas but no it's actually marijuana smoke because you see there's these these keyhole uh uh exhausts that the ss men go up to and they light these bongs and then they x they exhale the smoke into the chamber, thereby hotboxing these shower chambers. And so this music is played the entire time. And they're left in there for like two hours to just get completely hotboxed. Men, women, and children, all of them. Sean, I'd like to just kind of address something about what you said. The word marijuana actually has racist origins.

And I think it's probably a good idea for us to start phasing out our usage of it. And then, okay. And so, and then the gas chambers are opened and this... Right. Billowing wave. Yeah. Billowing marijuana smoke is coming out and the sonder commandos have to like go in and help them like stumble out and the sonder commandos lead them to the concert that the nazis have put on

for the inmates and it's like you know it's still naz, so it's like Vanilla Ice and like Beastie Boys and like Eminem is headlining. I guess Beastie Boys are Jewish, so they wouldn't be allowed. But, you know, just all white rappers. Chet Hanks is there. Oh, he's loving it. White Boy Summer. Yeah, it's all White Boy Summer. And so then they do the concert and all the ss are there partying with them and then

they load them all back onto the trains and send them back to their homelands but this time they've got like you know speakers on loop it's like a party train going back and everybody gets home and they had a great time and they're like wait a minute they took all our stuff. We left all our luggage there. They stole all our possessions. Right. That's the alternate universe, the chill Nazis. It really happened like that somewhere. The Zonder Commando with three Zs. They put them on a train and take them back.

They just, they're actually helped. This is one of the groups that was like they used their office to save right people right but not before getting them high you know if that was only one way that it occurred you know people people don't know that there are all these different things like einsatz group and would just pull into a small village in poland and you know people would come out of their houses or maybe stay in their houses, terrified of what would happen. And this, you know, SS officer would walk out of a tank and then reach into the tank and pull out a gramophone and start cranking it.

And Dr. Dre would start playing. and the tanks they're retrofitted to have um you know to kind of bounce up and down. Oh yeah, definitely. Hydraulics. Yeah, hydraulics. I couldn't think of that word. I was like, what the fuck is that word? I was like, air pumps? I'm like, no, I don't say air pumps. Hydraulics is the term. That's why I said bounce up and down because I also forgot. Just imagine

this fucking tiger tank doing this. Just going up and down. L.A. Cholo Hydraulics. just imagine this fucking tiger tank doing this la cholo hydraulics dude it is fucking going up and down yeah this is for the rosa there's just uh there's an ss hype man just throwing pre-rolls to the village. That's right. All the Auschwitz guards look like people you saw at Woodstock 99.

This is 99 this is uh this is actually and you know you might be saying this this scenario is so historically inaccurate they didn't have all this music in 1942 and what i would say to that totally valid uh complaint is actually this scenario is um the nazi moon base that really existed and survived the war they did studies there and they found that uh marijuana and gangster rap music would achieve the exact same results and actually the nazis would have won the war had they done this so this is actually a dystopian future where Adolf Hitler conquers Europe through destroying the short-term memory of the Jewish people and giving them 420, I did want to talk about two very special foundations that have a connection to 420. And that is, of course, the Carnegie and the Rockefeller Foundations. You know, occasionally you'll hear I've heard Tucker Carlson lament that the billionaires today, they aren't like the billionaires in the old school. The billionaires in the old school, they gave back, you know, they founded libraries and concert

halls and museums. And, you know, they really had a sense of noblest oblige. And I think with the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations, you really see that, particularly with the funding for the research that they did in the dynamic field known as eugenics and forced sterilizations in the United States. Before we get to that, would you say noblest in bleach? Would you speak in French? What? What was that? It's a term.

I'm pretty sure it means a sense for rich people to give back. Could not tell you what language it comes from, but you know, I've heard smart people use it. I was like, I was like Sean speaking Latin or tongues. And either way, he thinks he's sounding too smart right now. What is going on? Johnny,

you take a hit, bro. It's called no blue sublege, bro. And I'm like over here. I know, I know they own every, they have like a lot of money but they give a lot of it back it's like it's like what a guy who sells weed at stanford calls his

strains yeah like trying to outthink himself but anyways um i think uh the carnegie and the rockefeller foundations are both directly tied into the Holocaust. And I think that's pretty interesting because, you know, sort of today we're told the Gates Foundation is this massive give back thing. Or, you know, all these billionaires, they make up for it with all they do in charitable works and through their private foundations. And it's like once you actually look at any of these foundations, all of them are engaged in really horrific shit. Yeah. All of them are engaged in expanding the power of their namesake and funding some very questionable and in this case, very evil things. So I think there's a lot of instructive lessons for foundations today and just kind of this story. And I read this book called Nazi Nexus, America's Corporate Connections to Hitler's Holocaust by Edwin Black.

I recommend it a lot. He's the guy who wrote IBM and the Holocaust. It's sort of a short summary of American corporate connections. And if you haven't read, if you don't have time to read IBM and the Holocaust, you can also read the last chapter of this book. Right. If you want 600 pages done in 30 pages this is the book for you uh but so it just kind of goes through the carnegie and rockefeller foundations connections to the holocaust and i'll just kind of start with uh the basic fact of it is the nazi conception of race or anti-semitism that didn't really exist before the invention of

scientific racism like anti-semitism in the past was based on religion it was these kind of pogroms and inquisitions against jews based on their religion whereas the nazis invented this racial category of jews that was irrespective of religious belief. And kind of where they got this basis was Carnegie and Rockefeller Institute-funded race science. You know, to kind of paraphrase, again, the author Edwin Black, where did Hitler get his ideas about eugenics from? From the Carnegie Institute, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Harriman Railroad Trust. You know, this kind of goes back to Charles Darwin and his ideas of survival of the fittest were, let's say, attempted to be applied to humans by racial advocates throughout the late 19th and early 20th century, and they found a ready source

of funding from both Carnegie and Rockefeller. So are you telling me that, like, Hitler was like, you know what, fuck the Jews, and then he read Carnegie and Rockefeller stuff and was like, you know what, yes, fuck them for life? Or was it more like the ideas that Carnegie and Rockefeller had written about just excelled the hate that Hitler was standing on. From what I've been able to tell, a lot of it is, you know, a lot of the top Nazis had kind of anti-Semitism more or less programmed into them by their environment, a lot of like

attitudes at the time, especially from like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a big influence on that, which was a book printed by the, um, the czars. But what the eugenic science did is it gave them a way to transfer that into something wrapped up in scientific jargon to make it seem like it was, um, legitimate. I got to say though, bro, I know that, uh, all the shit's fucked up, but elders of zion is my favorite game on playstation i love that shit bro it's like god of war but with jews it's fucking incredible bro someone's like that name's kind of problematic and other guys like no we took

out the protocols part the elder scrolls of zion it's just elders yeah elder scrolls of the bethesda version would have so many bugs the the protocols of the elders of zion is where they came up with the puff puff pass rule like it's a guide for smoking oh yeah uh but so look this is the title of a 1911 carnegie institute founded study because it was like, you know, Andrew Carnegie was steel money, Rockefeller was oil money. It was sort of that they gave money to scientists to conduct these racial studies, these eugenic studies. So this is a 1911 Carnegie-supported study

was titled, quote, Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeders Associationics section of the american breeders association to study and report on the best practical means for cutting off the defective germplasm in the human population that's a 1911 carnegie funded uh science paper and you know the key to um writing a carnegie funded science paper on eugenics. Practice, practice, practice. You know, when I took my Dale Carnegie class, I was really impressed that like when I walked in,

like everyone was so diverse. They had this on the radio. I can't play it that many times. We will get sued. Of of course to take that class you had to buy the book how to win friends and sterilize people um but apparently from these like carnegie funded papers i'm quoting from edwin black's book the most commonly suggested method of eugenicide in america was the quote lethal chamber that is a network of publicly located and operated gas chambers wow so you know like all the way back in the early 20th century uh carnegie funded quote-unquote science was advocating the mass murder of uh

so-called defective members of the population and this resulted in compulsory sterilization laws in california in particular about 60 000 americans were forcibly sterilized because you know they were considered mentally defective or whatever else and this was brought on in large part by carnegie and rockefeller funded science and studies but also lobbying and this sort of thing. So really, the basis of modern scientific racism was almost entirely funded by Carnegie and Rockefeller. And the story sort of continues where, you know, in 1924, you have a Virginia sterilization law. And there was also obviously a heavy racial basis to a lot of this, you know, these laws that forbid uh mixed race marriages

spring up on a state-by-state basis around this time and it starts using like for definitional purposes all these laws start using scientific racism which in turn would become the basis of the nuremberg laws under the nazis so you see this entire progression building uh from america to nazi germany in 1927 you have buck v bell is this famous supreme court decision where oliver wendell holmes and the rest of the supreme court legalized laws forcibly sterilizing uh mentally retarded people in the united states and quoting from the book quote eugenics would have just been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies. Yeah. Here's the thing, though, is that you can draw a straight line from that Supreme

Court decision to Roe v. Wade. Now, let me tell you guys about the Holocaust that occurs every day in America. Yes. Yes. Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist. So that means we should take away choice. But she did also have this to say. That water bomb's so smooth, you don't realize how high you're getting. You know, it's too late. But to just kind of continue on with the specifics here, in 1904, Carnegie Funding founds what's called the Cold Springs Lab under director Charles Davenport. He was a famous American eugenicist.

He in turn, again, with Carnegie Funding, he sets up the Eugenics Records Office or the ERO, the Eugenics Research Association, and a newspaper publication called Eugenical News, which in 1923 adds the subtitle current record of race hygiene and race hygiene was of course a term borrowed from the nazis who kind of what happens is there's this american eugenics movement and as the nazi party gets more and more prominent in germany they borrow and kind of mix in their quote-unquote scientific racism and their sorts of terms, particularly the anti-Semitism and the race hygiene stuff. See, I love the spirit of internationalism here. The publication Eugenical News would begin publishing articles by German race scientists, several of which would go on to become death camp doctors. They would publish their articles in the 1920s uh the german publishing house known as lehman's verlog uh is noted by edwin black as a nexus between german american

eugenics it translated many american works to german um the publisher a guy named julius lehman had been with hitler during the beer hall putsch uh and what i enjoyed about this is it released a series of racial trading cards in german with like you know baseball cards for the different racial archetypes and then this was favorably reported on in the u.s by eugenical news really yes they were like hey they got baseball cards for all the races we We should do that too. Yes. This is a popular trading cards depicting racial profiles from the Tamals of India to primitive Basqueers of the Earl Mountains. Their availability was fondly reported in Eugenical News. Eugenical News suggested the cards could be improved if the pictures would reveal more

body features. German race cards, just like many many baseball cards came 10 to a package did they have like racial statistics on the back yes geez 35 50 and all that but you know and again so this is like the leading eugenics publication in america every time you think of that just remember this is carnegie funded this is what this is the philanthropy that this steel robber baron was giving back to the world was he was funding the discourse around race science what a bitch like fuck you know because as as naive as i i was to read think and grow rich and a few and a few other things along those lines the the names carnegie and rockefeller are so respected in the united states and it's like what you you literally know nothing about them yeah no absolutely

and especially that's why you have like this misinformation where people think you know they see how shitty billionaires are today and obviously they are right but there's just this complete fake history that at one point they were better and gave more back when they were literally hiring pinkertons to murder their own workers and funding race science and uh joseph mangalo's experimentations as i'm about to get to um boy you really fucking whitewash history pr works you know i mean like a lot of things in this country that are broken, but PR? Uh-uh. You do it right. Fucking people don't know who you really are. And then to kind of go on to the Rockefeller Foundation, the Kaiser, there's these German institutes called the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes.

These are like partly German state funded. They existed throughout the 1920s and into the Nazi regime. And there's three in particular that become directly involved in the Holocaust and Action T4, where the Germans, you know, mass murdered all these disabled people. The Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes for Psychiatry is one, for Brain Research is one, and the one for Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics. All of them received support from the Rockefeller Foundation. All of them were directly involved in the Holocaust. By 1926, Rockefeller had donated $410,000, or $4 million in today's dollars, to hundreds of German researchers,

among them Ernst Rudin, who became an architect of Hitler's medical repression. To take an example of the Institute for Brain Research, the kaiser wilhelm institute for brain research it operated out of a single room in 1929 when rockefeller sent them a grant for 317 thousand dollars and allowed them to become a giant race studies laboratory wow uh it received several additional rockefeller grants during the next several years it was also led by ernst rudin ernst rudin argued for designed and funded the mass sterilization and killings of adults and children under the nazis and employed joseph mengela and you know in additional like foundations i do think it is a uh it sounds a note of caution for trust the science or whatever, because an important thing to remember about the Holocaust is it was doctors and scientists who, you know, did the selection process at the death camps and did a lot of the horrific experimentations.

So, you know, these people are not infallible. They all get caught up in this really horrible shit sometimes. Right. Right. So how large, Sean, do you think this operation was? How many people are involved in this part of the machine? Oh, like thousands. I mean, it's interesting.

So to talk about specifically the 1935 Nuremberg laws, these are based on formulas devised by the carnegie institute um you know where they have this idea again this racial classification of judaism where if you're uh they go back to your great-grandparents and they give you little fractions if you're like one-fourth or half jewish or whatever else right um so this is partly based on the carnegie institute sponsored a jamaican uh a study on race crossing in Jamaica in 1926 to try to categorize these racial fractals and all this shit. This all comes from the Eugenics Records Office, which again, Carnegie funded. And this guy named Harry Laughlin directs it. And he testifies to Congress. And he does racial studies of asylums in the United States in the 1920s. And he becomes the basis or his his quote unquote research becomes the basis of the U.S. National Origins Act.

And he comes up with all these racial categories and kind of creates the system which literally becomes the basis of the nuremberg laws it's these racial categories that are set up for the u.s national origins act based on his carnegie funded research in the 1920s are then ported over by the nazis for the nuremberg laws in 1935 so there's a direct process by which Carnegie-funded scientific racism impacts U.S. law and then is copied over and transferred into the Nuremberg laws and then the Holocaust. Are you trying to get crazy with this thing? Don't you know I'm local? What if Andrewgie smoked weed every bit can't be what if this evil person got stoned man what if andrew carnegie didn't smoke weed oh shit bro on the scene now what if andrew cuomo smoked and so this guy uh henry lachlin, who came up with these racial formulas,

he apparently devised a racial basis for the recognition of Judaism 11 years before his testimony to Congress in the 1920s. So he's kind of like the progenitor of all this while he's getting all this Carnegie money. Apparently, he also, when he was working at the Cold Spring Harbor office in 1937, he became the U.S. distributor of a Nazi propaganda film, The Hereditarily Diseased. In 1937, he loaned this film out to high schools in New York City and New Jersey. So they kind of go through, or the book goes through these cross-links

between the american and german eugenics movements throughout the 1930s and sort of what happens is it's it's pretty open but as the german state becomes more repressive it becomes more controversial in the united states like rockefeller continues the foundation continues funding scholarships to German race scientists and stuff from 1936 to 39. However, they start to rename them and they try to avoid the term eugenics. So they just like, you know, essentially try to give funding to all these Nazis, but not put the word eugenics in the project name anymore because the nazis become more controversial do you know that um justin rockefeller uh who was the son of uh oh what's his name uh jay rockefeller the former senator from west virginia and descendant of the rockefeller family he was on the um he was on the board of the population council oh Oh really? Which was started by John D.

Rockefeller the third. Would you believe that it looks into, uh, uh, reproductive issues in the developing world? Wow. That wouldn't shock me. So it's not even,

this happened 80 to 90 years ago. It's no, no, no. This is continuing today from the people that started this in the first place yeah and it's like i think we've talked about how like carnegie and rockefeller and these billionaires became convinced that they succeeded because they were you know more fit or whatever than the rest of the population so this scientific racism they really did want to study it um the

the book quotes the rockefeller foundation's uh's natural science director stating that he's interested in research about breeding, quote unquote, superior men. And he quotes him saying this in like either 1933 or 34. So, you know, it's his responsibility to dole out these funds. really kind of the grim part about the rockefeller funding in particular uh where what would happen at auschwitz a lot of survivors recall getting disembarked from the train and hearing ss guards shouting twins twins no really and you know and separating out twins who would uh of course be removed from the gas chamber line and then experimented on by you know joseph mengeler one of his associated scientists and the grim reality of it is the reason that twins were so desirable is because carnegie and rockefeller funded eugenics research

twins were the entire basis of it like all these scientific studies twins were ideal for particularly identical twins because you know it's the same egg that splits right so you have an exact genetic copy and you can make comparisons about nature versus nurture that way and kind of what happened for uh obvious and understandable ethical limitations on scientific studies up until the 20s or 30s they weren't able to do mass samples twin studies particularly not uh horrifically evil and invasive ones right but then with the death camps you get this mass population uh on which that they would kind of continue what were originally carnegie and rockefeller founded eugenical research. Yeah. You know how they found out that like sativa is more of a mind high, but indica is more of a body high.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. They took some twins and gave one of them some Sativa mids. And the other one Indica mids. And then they cross-checked it with a different pair of twins, one of them given Sativa loud. Well, triplets is really what they were going for, and they found at least one. The control group, they play Elevator Muzak,

and then the sample group, they play Insane in the Membrane. And they see how much this enhances. I do think if you play that for a person in World War II, their brains would explode. Just genuinely, I cannot handle this, and i am going to uh die now just like one of those forcible uh nazi orchestras being made to play what is this jazz yes it's the guys in the in the um enola gay just one of them's cranking the old gramophone well just fields of people children are incinerating

beneath them. It's like the Enola Gay getting like pulled over by like some flying cop car. It's like, roll down the window, man. The smoke comes out. Big mushroom cloud, bro.

I'm sorry. We didn't plan this episode to include American war crimes. Let's get back to Germany. This cop comes over on the jetpack. He's like, so what you boys doing over here tonight? We were just committing war crimes, sir. You know, nothing illegal. All right, if I take a search through your vehicle.

Well, the dogs are going to be out here soon. If they alert on this plane, I have the right to search it. We've just got to fly them up here. Right, right. Yeah. But so the Eugenicalical research office again carnegie funded it started doing twin studies in 1919 and various of these would be written up in the publication eugenical news uh as i mentioned they were only able to do limited studies before the third reich

but that brings you to one of the key figures of the rocke funding is a Nazi doctor named Dr. Otmar Freher von Verscher, spelled V-E-R-S-C-H-U-E-R. But you can look this guy up. He's a pretty fascinating Rockefeller-financed race scientist who participated in the student fr corps that uh staged the cop push push in march 1920 that was like a military coup attempt against the uh the weimar republic that ultimately failed but you know this gives you an idea of where this guy's politics were he was a german nationalist and anti-semite he becomes one of the three department heads at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Human Hereditary and Eugenics in 1927. In 1934, after the Nazi takeover, he launches the Genetic Doctor as a supplemental magazine published by the German Medical Association. It asks doctors to think of patients not as individuals, but as part of a racial whole.

Here's a question or two. How many caliphers do you think that guy had? not as individuals, but as part of a racial whole. Here's a question or two. How many calipers do you think that guy had? He definitely had a lot. And do you think he had a favorite one? That's like, you know, this is where primarily most of the Rockefeller and Carnegie funding of the Nazis was going to, was like different calipers made out of like whale bone

and like ivory calipers and jade calipers. Rhino horn calipers. Right. I can see you're using my calipers. I specifically got my name etched into them. You go to like, you go to smoke with Mangala and he like takes out the calipers

to like precisely measure how much blood he's putting into the blunt. He measures your skull and he's like, you're more of a sativa guy, I can tell. But yeah, so he launches this magazine, The Genetic Doctor. And this is an important part of the german uh medical takeover where as i mentioned there's uh todd it asks doctors not to think of patients as individuals but as part of a racial hole and why this is important is because it's like don't think about that you have an obligation to your patient think about the german nation that is polluted by the evil that is the racial group of your patient that you have to kill now. You guys ever fuck a racial hole, huh?

You guys ever get into that? Fucking butts and pusses everywhere. And honestly, at the end of the day... All these niggas and all these hoes to hear somebody here go fuck. All these niggas and all these hoes... That racial hole, man, gets it done. Yeah. But so Dr. Verscher, in 1935, he founds the Frankfurt University Institute for Hereditary Biology and Racial Hygiene. This gives courses and lectures for Nazi Party members and the SS on eugenics and race science.

In 1932, he was receiving multiple grants from the Rockefeller Foundations. The grants did not cease with Hitler taking power. The Reich Research Fund in Berlin also sent him grant money while it was receiving Rockefeller money. His articles were regularly cited in Eugenical News. The end of 1937, he joins the Advisory Committee of Eugenical News, along with three other Nazi eugenicists. His assistant was Josephoseph mengela yes in 1942 verscher is promoted to head of the kaiser wilhelm institute for anthropology heredity and eugenics by the way one of those 1932 rockefeller grants he got was for twin studies

multiple of his grants specifically say twins and why this is important is because in 1943 he is the man who applies to the third reich for a quote-unquote twin camp within auschwitz and he sends his assistant joseph mangal to run the twin camp jeez so joseph mangal would be reporting directly to this guy who was getting all this rockefeller money who was you know specifically receiving money from the rockefellers to do twin studies they were asking him to do twin studies and then he's the one who says to the nazis let's have a twin camp at auschwitz and sends his assistant mangel out to do it and mangala is sending these reports and doing these experiments sending the papers back to him in berlin so it's like this is how it happened it was the rockefellers wait sean let's do a thing

um uh i i'm rockefeller and you're an assistant telling me about the discovery by the soviet union of auschwitz for the first time okay okay uh mr rockefeller the so the Soviets have just discovered a death camp in Poland. Oh, wow. Wow. Did they get their papers? Did they find their papers? Like their notes? Did they find the notes from those monsters? I'm sure they had a medical facility with notes.

No, all of the papers were burned. They have no idea who funded this facility. Okay, but were there like trains leaving that might have had papers? You know, it's not, it's not, it's, I mean, it's not a, it's not a political thing. It's, it's just about science. Oh yeah. You know what's so fucked up is like, I remember the first time I learned about race science, the term when it comes to like racial disparities and stuff but when i first heard it i literally thought race science meant

like you know the fastest way to run or like the like the quickest way to drive around a track like i thought like science on racing like i was like oh race science fucking how to be the quickest and it's like oh no no no buddy this is it's similar to that but more about what color you look like yeah no it was it was real awkward when you asked we're asked to declare your major in college and they were like yeah sure they told you what classes to take and it was completely different but so uh in 1936 the rockefeller foundation has a new president they stopped specifically funding projects with the name eugenics but they continue funding nazi research actually in the contemporary united states at the time in june 1939 there were actually protests

against the rockefeller foundation for funding nazi race science well in june 1939 and uh the president internally they publicly deny that they fund nazi race science but in this time june 1939 the president writes an internal memo that says uh internally that denials of their funding of nazi race science quote of course were hardly correct so essentially he's saying that we are actually funding nazi race science in 1939 but they kind of recognize that this is a bit of a pr problem and then to just kind of speak about joseph mangler real quick uh he gets his phd in 1935 dissertation on facial biometrics of four racial groups asserted racial identification was possible through the examination of an individual's jawline. He becomes the assistant of, to this guy,

the doctor I mentioned earlier, Dr. Vashir, Vershahir, whatever it is, in 1937. Two of them wrote medical opinions for the Nazi courts enforcing the Nuremberg laws, saying that people should be sterilized or you know this jewish person should be prosecuted for sleeping with an aryan or whatever uh in 1938 he joins the ss 1934 1943 he arrives in auschwitz wilhelm frick was the nazi interior minister later hanged for war crimes he compels all twins to register with local public health offices and

make themselves available for genetic testing in 1939 so essentially the nazis turned their entire population into a mass basis for twin experiments and kind of what mangala believed was you could create a super race as though you were breeding horses and so he was so interested in twins because he wanted every german mother to bear as many twins as possible wait so quick question like i i hate to seem this naive but like are you telling me that they took all twins and any twins it doesn't matter if they were german or jewish or fucking polish or romani or whatever like they just took everyone that was twins they essentially like based on their racial groups would be based on how you would be treated so like in 39 they read they compel all twins to register but you know it was obviously like far more soft they

wouldn't do the same kind of experimentation on quote-unquote aryan twins it was just these uh racial groups that were considered animals who were just subjected to uh these complete violations of medical ethics a long way saying they wouldn't do it to white people, but anyone not white, they would? Basically, yes. Okay. White privilege existed. Got it.

Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. I didn't even know this shit. I knew we were doing a 420 episode, but I really thought it'd be shits and giggles talking about companies that were like, ha-ha, we made money from the war,

and now we still exist, but this is some dark fucking shit. Oh, you weren't expecting a trippy episode on 420 bro you know what you're right let me just fucking take a moment get my head together you know i just really need to think about some things by the way if some of you are uh listening to this and you're in the New York area or could see yourself living there and you're thinking, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation, how how do I get a job there? Well, at their website now, they're currently hiring for director policy and coalitions position in New York City. They're also looking for a communications director. Oh, that could be me. Yeah, yeah.

A managing director, global networks and strategic partnerships. That was listed 22 days ago. So you're probably not going to have a good chance on that one. Oh, there's a CEO of their SPX division. I don't know what the SPX is. But I'm sure it's upstanding. So, yeah, just go to the official Rockefeller Foundation website and click on the careers tab. Rockefellerfoundation.org slash about us slash careers.

And, you know, get your Rockefeller Foundation journey started. Transform the world. I'm really good at the selection process. I can tell you like really quickly who is a worker and who should be immediately condemned to death as a waste of food. Well, that's good because, you know, the 2.6 billion underserved people in the world need an advocate. But, you know, last thing here.

Well, first of all, again, it's so telling to learn that, you know, Mengele and all these Nazi scientists, they weren't just making this shit up. They were just following current Rockefeller and Carnegie funded, quote unquote, science, what the actual science was up until that time. So, Mengele, Joseph Mengele creates a pathology lab at Auschwitz. He selects among condemned Jewish doctors and scientists for assistance, you know, like whatever. He had basically his choice of some of the best Jewish scientists in Europe were forced to work in his lab. Yeah, that's the thing about academia right now is that, you know, if you want to get ahead, you know, you can't necessarily do the project you want to do. Sometimes you got to do some race science to just get your foot in the door. Yeah. Publisher parish race science papers. Oh yeah. It is literally publisher parish for them if they're forcibly selected at Auschwitz. I won't go into like too much graphic detail in terms of what Joseph Mengele wasala was actually doing there but i should briefly reiterate uh the horrific nature of these experiments uh he would among other things that he did

he was apparently subjected a 1000 at least 1500 twins were subjected to experiments at jesus yuki uh 200 of those would survive so 1500 he killed 1300 people and then did horrific experiments on the surviving 200 if i can't play a sound effect that's that's almost as old as the facts you're saying sean what's the point of the show bro you think philhelm was one of the officers there was a guy named wilhelm you know there was at least one i'm sure there was um oh yeah but so among the experiments mengela did he sewed identical twins together uh in this case they died to see if he could make siamese twins out of identical twins uh he made twins have sex with each other to see if twins would result he uh various times dropped dyes into people's eyes to try to create blue eyes this mostly just blinded people uh he

removed eyeballs for study and this is apparently per an earlier carnegie funded eugenics records office eye color twin studies this was a big focus of them was the eye colors of twins so of course at auschwitz there was a giant wall of removed eyeballs that they would uh analyze and many of which were sent back to berlin because of these earlier carnegie funded eye color studies were big big interest um of course they by way, I guess we kind of have to mention Mengele wasn't actually a doctor, but he was heavily inspired by these doctors

funded by Rockefeller. Yeah, he did have a PhD. So he was like... I'm sorry, he was a doctor. Well, Andy, Sean meant a pretty huge dick. Just because he's a PhD, he can't put DR in front of his name because he's not a medical doctor?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He was a doctor. The original Jill Biden. That's fair. Liberals getting like really mad that you won't call Mengele a doctor. He earned his PhD

with his dissertation on facial biometrics of racial groups such as the ancient Egyptians. Never offended Sean more than playing the Wilhelm scream during the beginning of that. Jesus, Yogi. I mean, I'm not going to go against your editorial decision to play Hollywood sound effects during Holocaust discussion. I sensed the episode getting dark and I'm like, let me just lift it up just a little bit before we go over the edge. Yeah. I mean, if there's like the misconception that Sean doesn't have a line, take that out

of your head. There's a line. You can find it. I found it today. Yeah. Yeah. take that out of your head there's a line you can find it i found it today yeah yeah and so mangalo was analyzing blood samples giving forcible blood transfusions they were always sending these blood samples back to the lab in berlin of course they did disease exposures twins were typically killed together so that you could autopsy them simultaneously you know if one dies you go kill the other one

and then do simultaneous autopsies. And yeah, as I mentioned, killed at least 1,300 people through these horrific experiments, sent all these eugenics research papers and all these samples back to Berlin that was based on continuing earlier Carnegie and Rockefeller-funded research.

And, you know, as I mentioned, the Rockefeller Foundation's natural science director said in 1934 that they were interested in breeding, quote-unquote, superior men. So this is kind of the end point of it. This is what California eugenics race science eventually led to was the death camp at Auschwitz. Well, you'll be happy to know that if you go to the Rockefeller Foundation website,

you'll find out that they are still committed to finding and funding solutions to humanity's most critical global challenges. Well, that's good to know. Hey, Sean. So like with the Carnegie and Rockefeller people being like race science is a real, was that them not white could be as good as us but also one that just benefits them do they really believe it or does it just benefit their wallet i think it becomes a bit of both i mean i think power creates its own ideology that justifies itself so i think you know if you have the most money then yeah you'll kind of invent this idea that you have the most money because you're the best and you're superior and you did better.

And if you find ideas about racial groups that you happen to belong to being better, like WASPs and Nordics, then yeah, you will kind of, you'll believe it yourself, but you'll also disseminate it as a form of propaganda that justifies your own rule. But what if Nelson Rockefeller smoked weed? He releases the report under Gerald Ford. That's like, we should abolish the CIA, man. That's not chill at all, what they're doing.

Mengele and his assistant scientists have that 70s show table scene. The tables where they dissected someone earlier. Right. Mengele, could you sit down? Stop standing by the door. You're making me nervous. You need to sit down stop standing by the door you're making me nervous you need to relax bro it's like you're always on the run they pan over and like joe kennedy is in one of the spots seriously but yes that is a bit of a sad overview of the history of

carnegie and rockefeller and their charitable foundations and just what they're responsible for. But you know, we didn't want to bum you out on the 420 episode. We're going to throw to something much more uplifting. And I understand Andy has done some more uplifting research. It'll be a bit more chiller, have a bit better vibes than what I just described. Well, yeah, I mean, what, what, what we were just talking about, you know, that was a gross miscarriage of science. Um, uh, I, it's just a horrible misuse of something that otherwise should have good applications, you know, um, just exploiting it. Uh, but I'm going to talk about something that you can't misuse, which is statistics and um, uh uh civic population data so

oh population data i have some of that i i have a thing for that right here real quick uh let me just play it real quick for y'all that's just some solid math right there on the population yeah if you if you classify all these n words and all these hoes and then you can sort them by whether or not they're gonna fuck that's right somebody gonna fuck and then send it through the ibm punch cards yeah so i'm about to talk to you guys about uh the great american company international business machines um yeah they are a solutions based company. That's, that's how they've built themselves at least since the thirties. Uh, they are a company, uh, they're a company that goes to a government that wants solutions.

And, uh, they, you know, they, it, what's interesting about IBM, they're a computer company, but they didn't start in computers. They were, uh, an amalgamation of four different companies. One of them was created by a guy named Herman Hollerith. He was a guy who used to work for the United States Census. And then about the mid-1880s, he came up with this punch card idea that vastly sped up the census process. Uh, you know, you just put some information in these cards, run them through, crank them through a little machine and you get a bunch of data back. And so, um, he took this technology private, founded the tabulation machine

company, uh, tabulating machine company. And in 1911, uh, this company was merged with three other companies to form Computing Tabulating Recording Company. And in 1924, under the presidency of Thomas J. Watson, they changed their name to the name we all know now, International Business Machines or IBM. And at this time, IBM tabulators were still called Hollerith machines and the punch cards were called Hollerith cards. And, you know, IBM, they liked the,

one of their biggest clients was different countries, you know, around the world because these punch cards, they're great for collecting information on a population for like census purposes, or, you know, if you want to get like,

uh, for whatever reason, like racial like racial data uh it's really good for that um but why would anybody need that racial distribution uh so uh they sort the population by smokes weed yes or no when the nazis went from uh you know a guy who yells and his buddies to a government institution um ibm began its strategic relationship with them in 1933 uh and the nature of the relationship is that um you know IBM, they have this strategy. They ask every customer what result they want and they do their best to provide that result, regardless of whether the customer was Hitler. And so, uh, they, they, they went to the Nazis, you know, very early on and they're like,

what results do you want from our data processing? And the Nazis said, okay, well, we've got, you know, this problem. You know, our first solution, we just need to identify where the 600,000 Jews in Germany live and what professions they work in. We also want to identify which Jews in Germany are Eastern Jews, specifically from Eastern Europe, who are people which was a group that was particularly hated by Hitler, as things might show later. which the firm would then use to, which IBM's subsidiary in Germany would implement using its own machines and its own trained staff. But, you know, in fairness to IBM, there was nothing in Hitler's book that would have suggested it was dangerous, that he wanted to locate the 600,000 Jews in Germany. True, true. And also in fairness to IBM, the punch card technology was strictly proprietary and they were very litigious to anyone

who tried to use their own version of that technology. So really like who else were the Nazis going to turn to? You know? Yeah. There's a passage in Mein Kampf where Hitler says something that I'm paraphrasing here, but he says, wouldn't it have been better for our people

if instead of all these Germans dying in World War I, we had just taken a few thousand of these Hebrew poisoners and held them down under mustard gas or something like that. So, you know, this is the kind of person that IBM knew they were dealing with. You saying that is so much more unnerving when it's through an iPhone.

It really is sean we're used to seeing your face like next to a desk and like level but for some reason this vertical phone screen move you got going on makes everything seem like you're somehow in the past and the future all at the same time you know you look like zoltan from power rangers the fucking glass tube motherfucker that's that's what i'm dealing with right now i'm gonna if i can make a career suggestion uh i'm gonna say don't pivot to tiktok look we are not the uh first 420 podcast episode to lose track of time and perhaps go on a little too long. So what's actually happened over the course of this episode is I started out on headphones on my computer and then my headphones ran out of batteries and then I switched to my iPad and then my iPad ran

out of batteries and now I'm doing the last bit on my iPhone, Skype calling in. I mean, he's making it work, Andy. You gotta give him that. You are making it work. You're being, yeah, you're being very resourceful. And you know who else was resourceful? IBM. So, IBM engineers designed a special punch card system to identify Jews, their origin, their current location, and their profession. Each answer was assigned a number and position on the punch card. And once the results had been tabulated, Nazis could identify exactly how many, for example, and this is an example that was used

in the book Sean referenced earlier, they could tell you how many Polish Jews were engaged in the fur trade in Berlin. Oh. Yeah. They had that ability. And they also incorporated into these systems data collected from police registrations

marriage bureaus labor certificates uh and pretty much any other statistical points uh with information about religion and nationality that they could get their hands on so this group of jews from this area prefer indica and then this group of jews in this area they're more sativa heads and over here these jews they like a hybrid but honestly they're really just sativa heads and in shame oh yeah they could they could separate the spliff jews from the bong jews it's like fill out this punch card on a scale of 1 to 420 how high are you you don't realize how high you're getting until it's too late.

Actually, in order to be able to properly record that information, they had to use several punch cards since 420 was out of the range of an individual punch card. Right, of course. So one of the results was that people who were completely unaware

of Jewish ancestry and, for example, like their grandparents converted, um, they were identified, uh, through like old a second solution. Um, and they were like, Hey, could you help us, uh, you know, with this little administrative task of, um, removing all identified Jews from every segment of society in a professional capacity. Uh, and so they, uh, used IBM technology to identify who was Jewish and pretty much every profession in German life and then expelled. And this is, I think this is when Einstein got out of Germany because I think he was expelled from the university at this point. And so all these IBM products, they were leased and the company was paid a monthly rent and that monthly rent continued throughout the war, uh, by way of Switzerland. And so, um, can I just say, it is interesting to me that both Albert Einstein and Nick Mullen have lost livelihoods because of IBM. And so, when you're leasing one of these machines from IBM, they are very delicate machines and they require careful cleaning and servicing every two to four weeks. You just got to blow bong smoke into it, bro.

That'll unclog it. You got to let the machine get high, man. They're like organic living computers, man. This service was provided by IBM employees. It was provided at the location of the machines. And so there were IBM repairmen who were keeping the machines running in Auschwitz. So Nazis needed a third solution uh which was impoverishment because hitler believed that all of the jews money was actually stolen from germans and redistributed between the jews

and so he wanted to get it back and so ibm helped them in uh going through jewish owned bank accounts um uh insurance policies stock holdings real, and other assets that could be systematically identified. And part of the reason that IBM had such good access to this information is that they also service nearly all the bank savings institutions and brokerages and taxing authorities in Germany. Wow. So, you know, I guess they didn't have good enough privacy laws for data sharing at the time. So they could just take this information and cross-reference it with their data. And then through special fines, flight taxes, penalties, aronization, and outright confiscation, they did systematically impoverish the Jews of Germany. So fourth solution, ghettoization. And this is where IBM came up with data programs

to match the addresses of Jews in ordinary residential neighborhoods against ghetto relocation addresses where say five, six or seven families would be packed into a single housing unit. IBM was there to help. The fifth solution was deportation, uh, at the, before, uh, the, um, machine processing of information, it was very difficult to coordinate, say a national

rail system. But, uh, you know, thanks to the technology and services provided by uh william t watts and james t watts and whatever the fuck um thanks to his visionary um innovations ibm was able to create a system that could highly automate terrain scheduling uh to make murder as efficient as possible and um special ibm programs were devised to meter the, basically get the Jews from ghetto to concentration camp. And all of these operations were signed off by Watson. He received a 5% bonus on every dollar after tax, after dividend that IBM business with the Reich made.

But he wasn't a bad dude though, right? Like's still pretty all right right yeah no i mean here's something he said you know it was kind of uh this is his uh i think early in uh before the war when he was starting his his uh his partnership with the nazis he made this all lives matter statement uh different countries require different forms of government and we should be careful not to let people in other countries feel that we are trying to standardize principles of government throughout the world. He's against regime change. Mm-hmm. You know, he didn't, he didn't wanna punish the people of Germany, uh, you know, because of our, our cultural expectations that they, um, not have a, a systematic fascist

regime, uh, operating a murder factory. that they not have a systematic fascist regime operating a murder factory. Something Zuckerberg would say when questioned by the Senate. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. This is Google's like, don't be evil unless a country says

it's legal to be evil. Yeah. The IBM Watson smart computer is actually based on him so it'll use infrared to measure your skull before it starts talking to you. Remember they had that IBM robot that was

playing Jeopardy that was named after Watson for a little bit and then they had to discontinue him because he kept on justifying some of the ideological underpinnings of fascism it taught itself phrenology yeah

what if Watson smoked weed here's the thing to keep in mind about IBM is that they sorry go on they weren't true believers in my name is Watson I am high as fuck right now they weren't true believers in eugenics or necessarily the race science uh they were

just very good at automating it and uh making implementation of it, uh, much more accessible to paying customers. And so, um, they mostly worked through this, uh, subsidiary, uh, called, um, their IBM subsidiary, which was, uh, Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, Hollerith being the name of the guy who invented the machines. Uh, so that was basically, it means German Hollerith machine company. Um, and that was, they originally just licensed the machines from IBM, but IBM purchased them during the hyperinflation of world war one. They got a nice discount and, uh, Watson kept, uh, the company president, uh, Willie Heidegger on the promise of a 20% profit-sharing agreement. And there were a lot of arguments later between Watson and Heidegger, not because Heidegger

was an ardent Nazi, but because Watson kept trying to find ways out of giving him the 20% profit-sharing agreement. Hell yeah. And part of the reason he was able to do that is because most of these agreements were done through untraceable oral agreements. Because Watson had been caught through a paper trail in an antitrust suit earlier in his life. And so, the guy whose business was meticulously processing data had a policy of like when working with the Nazis, like, no, don't write anything down. Yeah. Heidegger was like, yeah, Watson, you're really trying to get me on this 20%. You're being a lot like those people that we got rid of right now, you know?

And Watson's like, we actually don't use that term anymore. It's actually, it's kind of low-key gross that you would phrase it like that. But yeah, we're going to bring you, you know, the checks in the mail, but hopefully our machines are working as advertised. So that's like, you know, that's kind of morally justifiable though. Like he helped the Nazis with the Holocaust, but he also stole money from them while doing it. So it's like resistance. Yeah. Yeah.

Also, one of the things they did was at the beginning of the war, they had the head of the Czech subsidiary of IBM put signs on German machines that said that they were actually being licensed and operated by Czechoslovakia, which I guess they used as another way to kind of get around a lot of the wartime restrictions with Germany, even though Czechoslovakia had been invaded at that point. So I'm not sure what exactly, uh, how exactly that worked, but whatever the case, uh, all the money, uh, the bills kept getting paid throughout the war. Uh, and they're passed through intermediaries in Geneva, Switzerland. Um, so there's one last solution that the Nazis needed from IBM, one with, um, finality. And so that is something that IBM was, uh, happy to help out with. Um, they had actually a whole network of these, of these machines, uh, various types, uh, in a camp like Dachau, there'd be as many as, uh, two dozen IBM sorters, tabulators,

printer and printers, and printers that were installed there. Other places, other camps, people would just take notes and then mail it to a location with a machine. As I mentioned earlier, Auschwitz had machines. IBM engineers, for their punch cards and tabulations, assigned code numbers for each major camp. Auschwitz was 001, Buchenwald 002, Dachau 003, Fossenburg 004

and so on. 420. Inmates at Auschwitz were assigned Hollerith numbers. Again, the name of this guy who I don't know his personal politics, but boy it's unfortunate that his name's on all this stuff. But he was, I think he was good and dead at this point.

So the inmates at Auschwitz were assigned Hallerith numbers to track their labor assignments, death statistics, et cetera. And, of course, these numbers were eventually tattooed on non-german auschwitz prisoners and became those infamous number tattoos but then uh it gets worse is that the the hollard numbers at auschwitz were later abandoned in favor of um more ad hoc numbering systems because the prisoners were dying too fast for the IBM systems to keep up. And the paper for the punch cards... So much for supercomputing. The paper for the punch cards that were produced

to work these IBM Hallerith machines, it was manufactured in Auschwitz. At Auschwitz, the Hollerith managers were located in the Hollerith bureau of the Auschwitz three concentration camp complex. IBM also coded prisoners based on categories, political prisoner. That's a one homosexual, three Jew, eight gy, uh, and deaths were also coded. Uh, natural causes was coded three, uh,

execution for suicide five. And then there was the special treatment, uh, Sonderbehandlung. That was a six, um, which was a euphemism for gas chamber or bullet to the neck. Oh yeah.

And then after the war, um, they gave all the money back. That's um, they gave all the money back. That's right. They gave all the money back. Uh, after the war, not much happened,

uh, but they made a robot that went on jeopardy and they beat Gary Kasparov at chess. Yeah. Fuck that guy. Another, another Russian falls victim to ibm sorting machines yeah but you know it's okay now because ibm lost a lot of market share and i think you had something

yogi you know bro it's not ones and zeros on computers man it's fours twos and zeros bro that's how it all works man uh to close out... What if binary language smoked weed? And instead of ones and zeros, it was fours and twos and zeros. Bro, you got to look into quantum computing. It will blow your mind. All right. So to close out this episode we're going to talk about the one the only chanel number five

coco chanel that's right ladies and gentlemen we're going back to the french because i don't trust them and i don't like them yes i previously hated everyone from the state of massachusetts more specifically Boston, but now, fuck France is also a part of it. I'm trying to be a real American here, and one of them, till the day I die, is going to be, fuck the French. Amen. Keeping 2002 alive.

For many years, some of this information was hidden from the world that Coco Chanel had a secret life as a Nazi agent. That's right. The fashion designer aided in undercover missions for Abwehr during World War II. How do I say that, Andy? A-B-W-E-H-R, Abwehr? Oh, Abwehr. Abwehr. Should have used a V, Germany.

Anyway. It's so cute when Germans are learning to speak English and they know that W's and V's don't sound the same anymore, but they don't quite differentiate it in their head because they're both pronounced the same way. So they'll just say like, and so it's wary. Like they'll even do it with V words to overcompensate. It's adorable.

All right. So it's like that HBO movie about the Vonsi conference, but they're all sitting around the conference table, but they are using that 70s show, Stoned Cuts, where it goes from like Adolf Eichmann to Reinhard Heydrich. And they're like giggling. Let's make soap out of them dude cuts to Adolf Heichmann

and he's just chewing on a pencil for my research I wanted to watch the wars of Coco Chanel hosted at distribution.art.tv France and to watch anything on their website you have to submit yourself as a member and they promptly rejected us so uh if anyone's got a art distribution connect please let me know because I do want to watch this movie on uh

Chanel uh Coco Chanel um for a quick quick bio we're not going to go do a whole thing we're already fucking two hours deep into this thing Coco Chanel born in 1883 all of it essential born in 1883 her ass is broke her mom dies when she's 11 her dad's like I'm going to peace out she grows up in a convent where they teach everyone in it

to sew and do needlepoint. Not needlepoint, but just do, you know, women fabric crafting things of the times. I'm not trying to say only women can do that shit now, but. It's not funny to the listeners anymore after two hours if I go, she grew up in a convent where they teach everyone to smoke weed. Like in my head, I'm laughing, but I'm also also like we've been doing this for literally two hours right i mean i i like that as a bit i'll fuck with it um listen i'm gonna keep this very short but basically listen i just i just want to say uh i think that women belong in the kitchen

smoking weed or wherever else they would like to smoke weed she leaves the convent at the age of 18 learning how to uh do like very meticulous uh sewing work and after this point she just gets into fucking dudes and causing problems like like a zaza gabor coco chanel at one point she becomes a singer and only sings these two words that have the word coco in them for some reason i i couldn't really the the wars of chanel would have taught me more but i couldn't get into it and so her nickname becomes coco and uh then she starts to fuck this french guy who uh she makes him compete with another dude for her attention

and eventually they both just start giving her money i mean i don't know if she's probably student herself or she's just fucking playing them like a ham but either way one of the cats gives her enough money to start her own hat and perfume store and the hats are selling gangbusters because uh coco chanel's whole thing is like clothing for women should be practical she's got like a weird ayn rand thing about the look of her face and stuff it's very narrow very like lizardish you know and uh coco chanel basically takes away the concept of like corsets and and and clothes for women that are just extremely uncomfortable and creates the trends like the little black dress, women wearing pants, women wearing like a like a sailor's jersey with stripes and stuff. You know, her her acclaimed fame is like she she modernize how women dress. And that that bit

is kind of true but kugel chanel as a woman uh started fucking around with a whole bunch of dudes and then eventually would start fucking in 1940 hans gunther von dinklage an officer in obvor the german military intelligence um and nobody took that guy seriously um so then she like during oh it's colonel dinklage okay well that's right that's precisely correct coco chanel would like live in a hotel and then run this store and she had like a individual that she split the business on the perfume size with that happened to be jewish and she felt that that guy was cheating her of money so she was like hey these people want to kill the jews so i'm gonna fucking straddle with them so i can fucking get this guy out of my company but also was an anti-semitic sans the nazis here's my impression of officer dinklage that's what i do i think and i smoke weed um so during the war

she's coordinating with the nazis as a german spy in 1944 journal general walter schellenberg of the ss named operation Hut, German for model hat. She was to use her personal connection to Winston Churchill, now England's prime minister, to relay word that many SS senior officers were seeking an end to the bloodshed. went on she gets out as a spy and then she would escape to switzerland and be allowed to go back to france when they're uh trying cradle traders because winston churchill goes like oh you can't fuck with this woman she's someone i know i don't know how she was able to get so many dudes on her hook if you know what i mean like the only thing that's not explained about coco chanel is how she is able to just like fucking get these men on a fucking whipstick. You know what I mean?

I don't know how she did it. She was the only woman in 1944 who didn't smell like complete shit. There was actually a lot of power in that back then. I like her fashion philosophy that you know

women's fashion should be functional for maintaining the nazi war machine um like fast fashion is when you kill the people who provide the hair for the wigs within one hour of arriving at the camp you know weirdly enough so after the war she makes like a buttload from the perfumes and her and her fashion brand that gets relaunched in 1954 with at the time people in france being like fuck this chick she worked with the fucking nazis but all that hubbub has has died down as of now and um she makes it advertised in the new york times yeah yeah there's a c on both sides like chanel so like she makes a whole bunch of money and then just lives at the ritz carlton for the last 30 years of her life she never marries because she got you know got some good

dick from some dudes that are dead and then so she's like i'm just gonna live in a hotel and it's like i don't respect any people connected to the Nazis, but in terms of psychopathic perfectionists raised by church nuns to then hoodwink a whole bunch of dudes. I know I'm going to seem a little misogynistic by this, but I really think them church nuns were more developed women that were able to teach younger convent members like hey this is how you do sewing this i do math is how you read and so when they like left the church and were just like fucking dudes they're like i am like 80 times smarter than you you're just a guy with a gun you know you don't know nothing and were able to charm their way into anything because that seems like how coco chanel got shit done long story short coco chanel as well as hugo boss and many other fashion brands including lvmh have direct correct connections to the nazi party and as we all know the bernard arnold family

uses alligator blood to orgasm and not only did they get such interactions from the likes of Coco Chanel, you know Coco Chanel was getting down freaky to fucking hoodwink all them guys. I know some of you are probably saying, hey, why didn't you guys do Hugo Boss? Why didn't you do, you know, Bayer as was known back then, IG Farben? And the answer is, it's going to be 420 next year too. That's right yeah we could have the idea for this episode as you might have figured out by now was that we would do a 420 episode and then the gag would be it would be about companies connected to the nazis for hitler's birthday and we thought yeah let's cover all of them. It turns out there's actually a lot of companies that are connected to the Nazis.

And we did four hours and we got, or we did two hours, we got through four of them, sort of. But there's also Ford and General Motors and Standard Oil and Shell Oil and IG Farben, as mentioned. And so we got, this is an annual Grubstakers tradition now.

Yeah. I mean, the origin of the idea was we were thinking like, what is one way that we can get people who hate us an episode to direct people to when trying to

explain why they hate us. It's a pretty stark cancellation risk, shall we? It's in my favorites where it's like, I want to recommend this podcast to my friends, but there's not really an episode that I can lead them in with. None of the ones you've recorded recently are good

first episodes to start with. Okay, well, I'm going to just give this to you guys to think over for next 420. Next time you see a VW Bug out on the street, just remember, Hitler designed the original version of that. Like, he drew the pictures. Anyway, that's a stoner car, I guess. So, you know, it can harsh your vibe uh

or something we'll get into the details next next year you know what Hitler dreamed of doing in that car bro have you ever tried to have uh racial skull measuring conversations on weed just imagine like the smoke the marijuana smoke billowing out of a vw beetle with a swastika sticker on the bumper. Well, if you enjoyed this episode, please send us marijuana drops that we didn't get to that you would appreciate for next year. I don't know if we'll make this a yearly tradition, but I'm sure we'll do this more than once.

I think we will. I have some important things to say before we go. Okay. All right, so first off all right so it's two ss guards and one of them's like dude how do you get your german shepherd to be so chill all the time he's like well you gotta let the dog smoke bro if you if you lift up his ear and you blow you blow the smoke in you can uh you can share the treat and you blow the smoke in, you can share the treat. And, you know, I mean, he still alerts if, like, somebody's, like, running away or trying to get by the electrified fence.

You know, he'll go after him. But other than that, he's, like, the chillest, sweetest dog. He never bites the commandant. Wait, wait, you mean smoke cigarettes? No, man. Briefers. no man you know this is this is the problem with uh major biden right now yeah oh yeah is they they they didn't let anyone in that administration who knows how to train major Biden. That's right.

It's like you're joking, but you're also serious at the same time. Oh, yeah. What if at one point during a press conference, Biden slips and says like one of their real names, like Blondie? Ava Brown, get over here. Sorry. What if instead of Hitler giving his dog a cyanide capsule, Ava Brown, get over here. Sorry. What if instead of Hitler giving his dog a cyanide capsule, he gave him

a marijuana edible? There was just a high-ass dog in the bunker. The scene from Downfall where he tells people to leave the bunker. The scene from Downfall where he tells people to leave the room. But instead of having it flipping out he just hotboxes the entire room. Hotboxing the room.

The subtitles are like everyone except for Gables and so and so leave the subtitles in the youtube video are like so you ever listen to joe rogan it's it's the scene and the scene of downfall where like gobles and the secretaries are like waiting outside of the bunker that hitler and ava braun eva braun have gone into right like by themselves to commit suicide but instead of like a gunshot they just see like smoke slowly wafting out through the through under the door they hear visions of joanna by bob dylan coming from the grandma phone they Then cut to Goebbels with his family. And, you know, all of his kids sitting on their bunks.

And his mother's like, you have to take this. And she holds up a bong and lights it up for each kid one by one. She's like, she does bong rips and then shotguns her own children. The bong rips. What if the Goebbels children smoked weed? One of the children knows what's going on. She's like, I don't want to. And she like blows the weed smoke in her mouth anyway.

But then she's chill. Yeah, the least chill of Goebbels children is like a huge square. He's like, I don't want to smoke weed. The alternate universe chill Nazis. The gas chamber doors open up. The weed, it wafts out. And the Sonderkonder Commandos come in to give out mini Doritos bags

and check the vibes of everybody in the hot box chamber. But you have to enslave people to do this. Of course, of course. This has been Grubstakers. Instead of work will set you free, it's smoke weed every day. Smoke weed every day. instead of work will set you free it's smoke weed but all of like the memoirs are the same where it just becomes like hell on earth where you're just forced to get extremely high every single day

people are like there is no god here there was no god you know if you smoke weed every day if you look at that sign actually the e and smoke is it's upside down and the auschwitz one and that was their little defiance all right and with that this has been uh a special 420 episode of grub stakers this has been uh pod damn america don't get mad grub stakers joseph begula is like measuring the blood quantums of uh the victims to see how much thc is in there it's like measuring how high they were. Rate, review the show. We appreciate you joining us on this marijuana extravaganza. Join us next year for 420 Part 2 Electric Boogaloo.

This time it gets personal. Somebody told the Nazis there's no lethal dose of marijuana. They were like, you want to bet? You want to see how much we can pump into the gas chambers so the SS guards they have these big like industrial drums of like IG Farben-made Visine

to, like, drop in their eyes so they can still see straight. Or, like, when Himmler comes, they all have to eyedrop so he can't tell. They're all high. And with that, this has been Grubstakers. My name is Yogi

Paywall. I'm Sean P. McCarthy. I'm Steve Jeffers. I'm Andy Palmer. And I just want to say, I believe Albert Speer when he says he didn't inhale. I used to suck dick for coke. I see them. That's an addiction, man. You ever suck some dick for marijuana? That's good there they uh they they set off a marijuana bomb in hitler's bunker to try to chill them out so they were shelling in the battle of berlin that's right we didn't do operation

valkyrie oh fuck oh shit no we mentioned it in passing. Oh, we did? I'm stopping my recording. I think so. Are we done recording? Okay, I'm going to stop recording. I'm stopped.