Grubstakers - Episode 33: George Soros

Episode Date: September 18, 2018

On this episode we cover our favorite liberal billionaire with a palindrome last name. Listen to his multiple marriages, his holocaust avoidance, and what he does with his money. Enjoy!

This week on Grubstakers, we've been paid to talk to you about George Soros. Hear the inspiring story behind the life of the man who broke the Bank of England and made his multi-billion dollar fortune through currency speculation and the usual legal version of insider trading. Hear also about the vast left-wing network he secretly bankrolls and why he is responsible for all of the podcasts you listen to. And lastly, about the rather inconvenient allegations that he domestically abused his girlfriend.

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Hello, welcome to Grubstakers, the podcast about billionaires. Sean P. McCarthy here, joined by my friends. Steve Jeffers. Andy Palmer. Yogi Poliwog. And this week we're going to talk about George Soros, with all that goes along with that. But before we do, we should just do a bit of housekeeping up front. First of all, I'm back from Brazil. I went with my wife, wonderful vacation, and I listened to the episode that you three recorded in

my absence, and I thought it was great. How many museums did you burn down? Just one, and I just stabbed one right-wing presidential candidate. Oh, Just one? Yeah. I'm doing my part for the Antifa. Interesting thing about Bolsonaro. Actually, in Brazil, their word for that is Antifa.

Portuguese, what a complicated language. I don't know much about Brazilian politics, but I learned that Bolsonaro, the the right-wing politician was stabbed um he he when he uh he voted to impeach the former president uh rusev dilma rusev and when he he was in the congress and in his speech to vote to impeach her he dedicated his vote to the colonel in the military junta her who tortured her really which i do just politics aside i respect the trolling game sure and um you recognize a burn for what it is yeah exactly um oh and yeah like i don't know he's kind of a scary guy i don't know that much but oh one of the more horrifying things i learned about him and this is like a guy i mean he's not he

might have been scary but now we know he's not impervious to knives yes his skin is not knife proof which i think is the best research we could have done for the podcast but i mean it's like so it's like a rumor that if this guy gets elected he's gonna like send the army in and machine gun the favelas you know which like maybe maybe not but it's like it just shows where my own mind is that like the scariest thing i read about him was that he was advised by the university of chicago economists so i'm like oh yeah wherever wherever those are the chief economic advisors people are going to die but um uh besides all that uh i did i listened to the episode that the three of you

did without me I found it very good and I was fascinated to learn that there are other people on this podcast so thank you all very much you were like listening to it and then just interrupting trying to get back to the script just blurting out in my cubicle

anyways moving on back to what we were talking about you pause the podcast do your own diatribe for 20 minutes like steven has spoken for more than 30 seconds without me cutting him off i don't think this is grub stakers um and uh so yes i'm glad to be back from the trip um oh and last thing just i should mention i went like uh and i wasn't gonna mention it but i was listening to pod damn america shout out to those guys jake flores uh ragav anders etc um i listened to them and they did mention my friend and former roommate alex patak who just

got married yeah oh congratulations to him um but uh uh they meant i was listening to their episode and they mentioned me because i had some tweet that went like semi-viral on left Twitter about how like being a landlord is a human right. Right, right, right. And eviction and foreclosure is a human right. And just like these kinds of things. Oh, and I said that I own 11 investment properties and many of my tenants are POC and LGBT. And that makes me woke. And that socialists who attack landlords don't understand sean's

tweets go fungal but um i i think the point is that uh all of those things are true and uh i would never just uh take some basic tenet of socialism and then go on twitter and say you are not a socialist if you believe this. Shout out to Connor Arpwell. Speaking of which, just kind of a fun thing. And here's what I'll say with regards to doing an episode on George Soros is that if you are a person who listens to the podcast and perhaps doesn't enjoy the occasional ironic anti-Semitism that we do on here, this might not be the episode for you.

Why would you say that, Sean? I don't see what's wrong with that. I wouldn't want this to be my first. That's all I'm saying. Yes, you might want to check back. Because you just really can't talk about George Soros without discussing the feverish anti-Semitism that surrounds any discussion of his,

particularly on the right-wing media, where it's alleged that he's controlling global events behind the scenes and funding all these different malicious actors. And just one interesting thing. I mean, you can talk about him without anti-Semitism. We're just choosing not to. Exactly. Oh, but so I did just want to mention,

because Andy did mention Connor Arpwell earlier, interesting Fox News story. They looked at the Panama Papers, which, of course, we've kind of mentioned the Mossack Fonseca disclosures of all these different powerful people hiding money offshore. And one of the people who came up in the Panama Papers that Fox News found was George Soros. And apparently he set up these offshore funds. In addition to avoiding taxes, he used one of these offshore funds to invest in the Carlyle Group, which, of course, we did a whole episode of, you know, their investments in the military-industrial complex. So I would just like to say that this episode does, in fact, confirm that noted DSA record Connor Arpwell is funded by George Soros.

Before we begin, I think we should lay some foundations. Yes. And let the audience know how a puppet show works. Hello, America. There are a few working parts to a puppet show. There is the puppet master here. There's the stage. There's the audience. There are the strings for each puppet. And then there's the story. There's also why. Why is the story? Why is the show happening? What is the puppet master? What is his motivation? Is it for the money? Is it for entertainment? Is master what is his motivation is it for the money is it for entertainment is it personal gain what is it make no mistake we are watching a show

when i when i see a semi-mentally unhinged person at a street fair those are all questions that fly through my mind yeah so andy was playing the clip of um what really kind of catapulted george soros into uh prominence in the right wing uh mind was um glenn beck uh in his fox news show when he was on fox news in 2010 did a three-part special like three hour-long shows all devoted to george soros and he entitled this series the puppet master and they had ominous graphics of george soros holding up puppet strings and controlling the world uh all of which glenn beck denied was anti-semitic i just want to say uh you can't have puppets without strings uh marionettes you have to do with strings but puppets can often just be your hand and nothing more. So, strange definition

by Beck. Yeah, he should have said marionettes, because like, what about Muppets? That seems like a rather big word for his audience. This is going to be a tough episode since we are, well, three of us are anywhere in DSA, so.

We are Soros funded? Yeah, no, that's's how I'm still waiting on my check I can't it's not a coincidence to me um but yeah so uh the I watched this uh three-part Glenn Beck episode today that was the entirety of Sean's research yes if say somebody came up to you at a bus stop and said the things to you that Glenn Beck said on television, you would call the police on this person because it is just a ranting fever dream. And it's just pretty fascinating to look into 2010 and the ideas that permeated at the time and really what really what gave us the foundation of kind of Trump and, you know, all this kind of right wing conspiracy post-truth movement.

But, um, I guess, uh, we have a couple of clips from the Glenn Beck thing, and I just want to start there before we go through, uh, George Soros' chronological biography.

Soros has been granted at least four visits so far to the Obama White House. This, a man who has repeatedly called for the devaluation of the dollar. A slow decline in the value of the dollar, a managed decline. He's waged a war against capitalism. Capitalism is not directly opposed to open society. Nevertheless, it poses some serious threats.

This is a man who wants the world to be one global society without borders or individual governments. One global society. Sorry about the bookstore. One global gatekeeper.

And just to respond to that, a few things. First of all, Excellent gong usage. This idea that the globalists and the capitalists are different people is very strange to me, because he says George

Soros hates capitalism, but loves globalism. You know, this man who was at the time worth 20-some billion dollars hates capitalism and made all of his money through financial speculation. But second of all, just the constant invoking of a Jewish man as the puppet master and a globalist who funds communist takeovers,

it's all just like really classic stuff that it just kind of blows my mind the idea that Glenn Beck didn't know what he was doing when he put that program together um but i was wondering andy if you had the drop where uh glenn beck does defend himself against charges that he is anti-semitic i'm playing him in his own words and what do they do they call me all kinds of names i think the most popular is going to be i if i had to guess their attack is going to be that i'm an anti-Semite, which does not even make any sense. First of all, no one's a bigger defender of the Jews and Israel than me. Name them on television. I'll walk down.

I tell you what, George, you and I will walk down the streets of Israel together. Let's go to Jerusalem, you and me. Let's see which one of us is more popular. That's my favorite uh my favorite defense is uh i can't be a racist i support an apartheid state well i just like to imagine that glenn beck walks down the streets in tel aviv and it's like michael jackson in berlin um oh yeah and so um then the other part of this is that like again the video's three parts i watched and the first one's the only interesting one interestingly enough uh it's a very sad side

effect of all of alex jones's videos being pulled off youtube that we have to rely on the uh second rate glenn beck conspiracies you don't get the pure shit like alex jones for his part is at least entertaining like glenn beck it's just nonsense and it was a chore to get through uh uh just alex jones has alleged that george soros uh went to central casting and hired jewish people to pretend to be nazis for the charlotteville rally in order to discredit the right wow uh which is like moi like at least that's entertaining um the glenn beck i just i don't know why people watched that but three million some people did watch his special on george soros and that really permeated the right wing ideas about uh george soros i just love that we're in a day and age

where sean mccarthy beckons for alex jones videos the prophecy is complete. The man is entertaining. Say what you will. The man is entertaining. Oh, yeah. And so we should clarify in light of the anti-Semitism.

We should also clarify that Sean watches Hitler videos for fun. Look, you can set politics aside when you watch Joseph Goebel's Total War speech. I was thinking about this. Slight digression. Joseph Goebbels gave the Total War speech to an audience in Nazi Germany in 1943

after the defeat in Stalingrad to hype the crowd up. And he gets so into it. At one point, Joseph Goebbels, you can hear this in the audio, almost admits the Holocaust is happening because he shouts at the audience, and would you support, and I'm paraphrasing, but would you support any measure necessary for the extermination? And then he stops himself and he goes,

the suppression of the Jews in Europe. And I just like the idea. It's like, you know, sometimes the anti-semitism is just so good you can't pull out um but uh we should be clear that george soros uh is part of an immoral globalist clique that controls all world events from behind the scenes but it's not the one you think it's just the ones on the forbes. Right. But so I guess the other part of the video is Glenn Beck multiple times predicts massive inflation is coming. This is back in 2010. He predicts that a Hershey bar is going to cost you $15. He says, if this massive inflation doesn't

come in two years, feel free to mock me. Mark my words. and i believe i said that for the last two years on inflation as i told you massive inflation will come and you're beginning to see it now this is of course as steven has mentioned in the middle of a deflationary spiral it's right at the beginning of like an almost unprecedented deflationary spiral for the u.s i, I beg to differ because every morning I get myself a Monster energy drink, sometimes two, and I have noticed they're almost

across the board of bodegas were $2. Now, my bodega, $2.50. Another one, $2.25. Deflationary spoiler, you say? I'll believe it when I see it. Well, okay. iPhones have inflated massively.

Yes. We do want to apologize in advance when this podcast ends four years from now because Andy has a heart attack. I think him having a heart attack won't kill the podcast. I mean, let's be honest here. I want to be clear that it will explode if everything goes according to plan. Oh, yeah. But so just two other things in the glenn beck uh uh so we mentioned this on the coke brothers episode but at the time of this glenn beck is taking one million dollars per year

from the conservative super pack uh funded by shadowy billionaires called freedom works he's taking a million dollars a year without disclosing it in order to promote them on the radio and on television so it is like i mean it's the ultimate irony is this fucking lunatic shouting at you about the shadowy figures operating behind the scenes those are capitalists i mean he's still against globalists um and then just another funny thing is like we've played uh glenn beck defending himself against charges of anti-semitism well a a couple times in the three episodes, he quotes the prime minister of Malaysia in 1997 blamed George Soros for the Asian financial crisis, which George Soros made some money on, but he can't really be blamed for what happened there.

But Glenn Beck quotes the prime minister of Malaysia as blaming George Soros for this crisis. But he, for some reason, does not quote the other thing that the prime minister of Malaysia as blaming George Soros for this crisis, but he, for some reason, does not quote the other thing that the prime minister of Malaysia said in 1997 about George Soros, which is, quote, we do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality, it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge. And coincidentally, Soros is a Jew. And it is also a coincidence that the Malaysians are mostly Muslims. Indeed, the Jews are not happy to see Muslims progress.

And mark my words, our planes will never disappear. But it is just like interesting where it's like, come on, Glenn Beck, tell your audience the whole truth. Right, right. Tell them what they really said about George Soros on this episode where you're going out of your way to like pretend you're not making anti-Semites. Right, right. ever Trump conservative columnist, uh, Glenn Beck to, the actual biography of, uh, Mr. George Soros, who's a,

a pretty fascinating guy. He's made a lot of money on, uh, uh, financial markets, particularly current currency speculation. But another thing, um, that,

uh, uh, pops up in his biography and, uh, in right wing, uh, fever dreams about him is essentially the idea that he was a nazi collaborator and uh so i guess we should just kind of mention uh his basic biography before we get to that is he was born

in budapest hungary in 1930 he was born to an upper middle class family his dad was a lawyer uh who incidentally enough was an austrian um austro he was in the Austro-Hungarian army that invaded Russia. He was taken as a POW. He survived the Russian Revolution and then eventually got back to Hungary where he raised his two children, George Soros and his brother. And so again, his father was a lawyer. This was kind of upper middle class household. And it's kind of noted that George Soros didn't really appear Jewish. He had blonde hair when he was a child, so he was able to pass as a non-Jewish child, which of course becomes relevant because... Lucky.

Yes. Because he got a job with a local business official helping with the train scheduling. Yeah, yeah. He just made sure they ran on time yeah i knew nothing wrong but yes so george soros born uh 1930 uh 1944 hungary the country was um an ally of nazi germany throughout world war ii but in 1944 they try to go a separate piece so nazi germany invades them in uh 1944 so up to this point uh 1944 george soros is 14 years old

up to this point hungary hasn't really been too affected by the war there are some shortages but this is when his life really changes because uh in 1944 what did germany doing well so in hungary uh uh made some freeways i'm pretty sure a man named Albert Speer was launching an employment program to help manufacture a Wernher von Braun's new rocket system to deliver men to the moon. But yes, so in 1944. Oh, the good Nazis. The ones who said they were sorry slash I knew nothing about the prison camps. Yes. Albert Speer, who would not be hanged at Nuremberg and was at this time actually on the phone with officials at Auschwitz checking up on how many slave laborers they would send him.

But so in 1944, there were about a million Jewish people in Hungary. Almost half of them would perish in Auschwitz in this horrific. And, you know, it was the German tanks rolled in without opposition, and then they just started rounding up Jewish people. And so what happens. Sean's taking the stance, despite all of his personal inclinations, to say that the Holocaust was, in fact, horrific. Yeah, I mean, he's rock hard right now, but I'm not sure why. It was one of the most horrifying fictional events of the 20th century. Oh, and I should mention that most of my research for this episode comes from the book Soros, the Life, Ideas, and Impact of the World's Most Influential Investor by Robert Slater. You told me you got this information from a wet dream you

had. Most of this is from the John Birch Society. But so what happens is George Soros is initially, the Germans give a list of Jews to the various Jewish councils, and then these Jewish councils are supposed to send out these deportation notices to these various Jewish people, which, of course, would result in their deportation to Auschwitz, where vast majority were exterminated, though some would go on to slave labor for Albert Speer. But so young George Soros, again, a 14-year-old. Who knew nothing about any of it. Young George Soros, again, he's 14 years old at this point. He is tasked with delivering some of these lists.

He shows the list to his father and his dad immediately recognizes it as like a list of all Jewish lawyers in Hungary. And his father tells him, well, you should give these um because it's like the way the germans the notice was like report for rabbinical services or some bullshit but everybody at this point the rumors were going around people knew that there were likely

exterminations or deportations so his father said yes deliver the the list to these people but tell them clearly that if they report they will beorted, where most people knew what that meant. So it's kind of alleged from this that George Soros was a Nazi collaborator because he delivered these lists. Yeah. But, you know, just like we all hold the children in Sudan responsible for their crimes. Well, you know, I think when it comes to deportations, you have to ask the question,

were they breaking the law by being there? But again, it's just kind of like the most horrific crime in the 20th century, certainly, and just a weird, very traumatizing time. I mean, besides bell-bottoms. Nice. But so George Soros delivers these lists to these various attorneys, and then after this, his father, who again, upper middle class,

his father, the attorney, is able to bribe a Hungarian government official to get George Soros fake papers to pretend that he's a Christian. I believe they pretend to pose as the godson of this official. So it is like another... Self-hating much? It is another thing where because George Soros was born rich, he was able to survive the Holocaust. I mean, there's no way around that.

Like lots of... And you see that again and again. So you're saying that because George Soros was a part of the wealthy jewish clan he became a master in understanding how wealth and judaism could help him survive in the western world i will say it is horrifying if you listen to i think it's either npr or 60 minutes they kind of ask him about him like so what did this period of your life teach you about gold speculation? It's like, I don't know if that's the lesson you want.

But yes. And then another thing that the right-wing media points to is that during this time, at least one point, George Soros went with this official who got him these fake papers to inventory uh the house of a jewish family who had their property stolen because of course the nazis would deport these people and then steal all their belongings and so it's like allegedly yes yeah we don't want to be sued by any sort of uhigious Third Reich attorneys. But yes, so that's the other thing.

Basically, the way the right-wing media tells it is that 14-year-old George Soros was drawing up lists of... There you at it, folks. Yeah, Albert Speer's workforce, and then dividing the property of these soon-to- people and again 14 years like he was in eichmann's office being like actually if you uh run these trains at these times you can

get way more but so yes uh and then uh george soros is ultimately able to survive the holocaust with his family because of these fake papers but they also spend a lot of this time hiding out and you know they spend weeks at a time and you know addicts and these kinds of things just hanging out exactly uh hiding from people and then like another thing is like he describes this time of his life as very happy which i guess can be a little weird but you know people deal with trauma in different ways and he describes himself as like indiana jones on an adventure and these kinds of things but i mean i guess not getting killed in the holocaust would be kind of a happy thing i get why he looks at that time with pleasure you know what i mean yeah he doesn't

look back on the time where he survived the nazi attacks allegedly with any sorts of remorse this was more like the crystal skull this is more fun with like monkeys swinging around look back on fondness at that time i got to divide the property of uh several hundred thousand murder victims um but yes so uh george soros survives the holocaust but kind of uh to this day is alleged to be a nazi collaborator which he very much was not. He was just a rich Jewish family who was able to survive because he did not appear Jewish and because his family had the financial resources to protect him from a government that was intent on mass murder. But so they come back, the family does, after 1945. And then in 1947, they leave because the communists take over

which is uh another thing is like this idea that george soros is a communist when his family straight up fled communism or the idea that any billionaire is a communist who doesn't give all of their money away right away but But anyway, so 1947, his family leaves. He's 17 years old at this point, and they go to London. So his family goes to London, and then he describes his period in his life as he kind of reaches bottom. He works a lot of odd jobs. He's like a waiter at some some point uh he interestingly enough in 1948

he does farm work and he organizes a strike of the farm workers so that they would be paid a piecework rate rather than a day rate uh so interesting little side note on the uh future billionaire yeah who would uh later uh help take the democratic party away from unions um but so what a colorful wife he's yes and he was also a house painter painter and all this stuff but it's 1949 he enrolls in the london school of economics he gets a eventually a master's degree in philosophy in 1954 but it's at the London School of Economics. He encounters the writings of a guy named Karl Popper who wrote in 1951 this book,

Open Society and Its Enemies, which essentially would become very influential for George Soros because it divides society into open and closed societies. And this becomes a recurring idea for George Soros that these fascist or communist societies are closed on the one hand. And then you have liberal democracy as an open society on the other side. You know what I think Soros' greatest crime was?

What's that? Not getting a STEM degree. Clearly he was not serious about success. Yeah. Study the right coding language. Fucking slacker philosophy. Fucking hack. Grad student.

And just an interesting thing is like from this time, while he's working these odd jobs, he works as a railway porter. He apparently breaks his leg, I guess. Yeah, he breaks his leg while he's working there. And he gets a grant from the Jewish Board of Guardians, which was a charitable organization that gives out financial grants to the JBG.

Exactly. But interestingly enough, and he writes about this, he essentially lied to them and pretend that he was not also getting national insurance from the British government. And he got them to give them this his insurance as well. You know, and again, we've we've kind of beat this point to death, but there's no such thing as a self-made man, and George Soros was entirely able to survive this period because of insurance payments from both the British government and this charitable organization, the Jewish Board of Guardians. So he's a thief. This motherfucker broke his leg and got paid twice for it?

What a fucking rat. Single-payer will never, ever happen in this country. But so at this time, George Soros is working odd jobs. He graduates Master's of Philosophy in 1954. He initially struggles in the early 50s. He wants to write a book. He struggles with this and eventually decides he's not going to be able to write a book um so he gets into poor guy he gets into finance essentially because he's like i need money this is where the money is it's simple as that and the way george soros describes

it is that he uh drafted a letter to all of the investment banks in london this is in about 1954 and then he got a job from one of them called Singer and Friedlander. And so from 1954 to 1956, he starts his... This is how everyone got a job in the 50s. Yeah. Just write a letter to everybody. Yeah, just cold letter. Yeah.

And but so basically, he doesn't really do anything eventful in 1954 to 1956 working in finance. The way it's described is like he was 25 to 26 years old, so you're mostly just taking marching orders from more senior people. But it does give him an idea of the European financial markets, and this is his first exposure to this. And so this becomes significant when in 1956 he moves to New York City with about $5,000. Apparently he got from a relative or something. He moves to New York City and based on the...

Or something. We don't know or it just was kind of vague. George Soros has said that he does not remember exactly how much money he had at this point. He said like, oh, because it's all such paltry sums now. That billionaire forgot how much money he was given at one point. Shocking. Fucking shocking.

He moved to the most expensive city of all time. Just, I don't remember how much money I had in my pockets. Well, rent was like eight cents back then. But so he gets this letter from a colleague who worked with him. Wait, you said 5,000? Yeah, about 5,000 US dollars. Hey, would you mind crunching those numbers for me? I'm going to do it.

I remember pre-Jimmy Carter dollars. 1952? 1956. He moves to New York City and one of his colleagues in London writes him a recommendation letter to get him a job at

F.M. May or Mayer was the New York City financial firm that he went on to work for in 1956. attribute because this is kind of the start of globalization essentially where before this is just beginning uh the kind of wall street trading and european financials 48 000 so he had 48 48 000 yeah you were making you were making fun of glenn beck for predicting hyperinflation 48 000 yeah if you said 5. He forgot that amount of money. Think about that for a second. I don't even. Could you ever forget $48,000? Oh, hey, how much was that car?

I don't know. I mean, I'd like to be able to one day. Oh, my God. Not with this attitude. Not with this attitude. That is fucking nuts. And that's alleged. It could be more.

Yeah. Wow. He forgot the other $ could be more. Yeah. Wow. He forgot the other 15,000. Yeah. But yeah, so at this point, he moves to New York City. He gets married for the first time. I guess we could mention that. He's married in the late 50s.

He would divorce in 1977. He's got three kids with this broad. Right. And he said, George Soros himself said, I identified with my fund. It lived off me and I lived with it, slept with it. It was my mistress. It was a fear of losing it and the distress of being wrong that I was trying to avoid. It was a miserable way to live.

And so, of course, you know, he's ejaculated in this fund. I fucked it in its face while it begged me for more. First wife name. There's a real liquidity crisis. I got really angry at people

when they pulled out of my fund. His first wife's name is Annalise Wittschack. Three kids, Jonathan, Andrea, and Robert Soros. I brought other men home to fuck my fund in front of me while I jerked off. It's a close-in fund. One thing I want to mention about Robert Soros, one of his children from this marriage, is he got a divorce. The son got a divorce a little while ago. And during the divorce, there was a heated battle over a 7.7 million Christopher Wool painting.

And all it is, is it's like a giant painting with a white backdrop. And in big, bold black letters, it says F-O-O-L. They're fighting over a painting that says the word fool. That's it for $7.7 million. That's art. Yeah. That's, you know, very efficient allocation of resources where people are sleeping on the streets uh there's a drop maybe i'll put it in post but it's actually like npr asked him like how do you feel when you uh see homeless people sleeping on street grates and he says

something like well i don't give money directly to homeless people it's just the most like you don't really even think about this shit anymore do you kind of answer fucking maniacal right and so we haven't mentioned but uh george soros is worth today 2018 september about 8.3 billion dollars in 2017 he gave about 18 billion dollars so he was previously worth much more right but he gave it to his open society foundation which we'll talk about in a little bit it's essentially a charitable organization that promotes uh these kinds of open society initiatives um and then it's wrapped up with its whole its own can of worm of uh private philanthropy or is it you'll find out momentarily on grubstakers

but this this man who could conceivably end homelessness is like no let's just do it through my little bureaucracy yeah yeah no hannover ran some observation on the banality of evil was reductionist in its conclusions i'll help out the world but only if it's tax-free but uh so just one other thing with his marriage he was divorced from his first wife in 77 and then um just according to the book that i mentioned uh on the very day of his separation he ran into a 22 year old woman named susan weber who he'd met before at a dinner party he was 47 at this point he said a quote i just got separated from my wife today would you like to have lunch uh so you, he doesn't wait. Yeah, he's got two kids with Susan.

Their names are Alexander and Gregory. Would you like to do an Eiffel Tower with my fund? Yeah, I was going to say. He took Susan Weber back to his place and said, my fund has to watch. But so, yes, and then he would later go on to marry Susan Weber about six years later and have two more children with her, one of whom under Wikipedia is just described as an artist. This New York Post article has a great headline.

It's about, I believe, Alex Soros. And it says, this former fat kid is now a billionaire air playboy on the New York City party scene what a great what a great heading for an article former fat kid is now a billionaire playboy yes at any point was he not a billionaire playboy well he was fat so you know as we all know billionaire children that

are overweight are immediately murdered yeah with no records yeah like with Tonka trucks he he was literally like when he was five and had uh you know tonka or whatever the rich equivalent brand of tonka trucks is he was literally a billionaire playing boy um but so george soros uh as we mentioned he starts in wall street 1956 He moves through a few different firms. He moves to a new firm in 1959. And again, at this point, his focus is European securities.

He's one of the few people at most of these firms who has a lot of knowledge of the European market. So he makes suggestions as to what European securities and stocks and companies to be involved with. And so he starts kind of getting prominence here. And then in 1963, he moves to another fund, Arnold and Beakroder or something. It's apparently at the time in 1963, it was one of the leading American houses trading in foreign securities. Wait, wait, I got something important to say. What if George Soros' son tried to be shitty

Batman? Go on. No, that's the end of it. Well, I think someone would have to murder George. That's the first step. And honestly, kind of tempted. Trump conscripts George Soros' children

to hand out deportation notices. Listen, you know what your dad did. Come on, get in line here. But so, yeah, just according to, again, the biography I read from Robert Slater, in 1963 he was hired as an analyst at this new firm, again working primarily with foreign securities because he had a network of contacts in Europe. again, working primarily with foreign securities because he had a network of contacts in Europe.

Yeah, he was analyzing those securities. From his days as a London analyst, he had some contacts in Europe, and he could speak a number of languages, including French, German, and English, of course. So he was able to work in arbitrage pretty efficiently. He knew how to say, you need to report to the train station at 10 in all those languages. But so, yeah, so really his big break

is this fund he works for, this firm he works for in 1963. In 1967, they let him set up an offshore uh fund a hedge fund basically in 1967 he starts two of these hedge funds the double eagle fund is 1969 and the first eagle fund is 1967 and so these offshore funds uh were he operated them from new york city but uh they were both based in the Dutch Atlantis, or Antilles, excuse me. Atlantis? The Dutch Antilles.

So they were literally offshore funds. It's the hidden city of the Netherlands. They were offshore funds where the SEC would not look at them, and anybody in them did not have to pay capital gains taxes. So again, this was all just bullshit loopholes. And his investors were- Anyone who's in that fund doesn't have to pay. Nevermind, sorry. They just have to watch Soros have sex with his wife.

But so his clients are at this point 1967 uh primarily uh wealthy europeans and again this is uh he's done well for himself at this point uh to the point where he is able to put uh 250 000 just just a side note dutch atlantis is uh amsterdam after global warming takes full effect. Dutch Atlantis is when you smoke a joint underwater. But so, George Soros starts this fund. Dutch Atlantis is where that guy took the reporter in his submarine. George Soros. She was killed by merpeople people but he couldn't reveal their

secret out of fears of reprisal so he took the murder rap he gave her a uh a notice to report for rabbinical service the next day um but so uh george soros starts this hedge fund with about 250 000 in his own money again he's been working on wall street from 56 to 67 he's working you know 80 hour work weeks and all that and this is at a boom time bless you a boom time for wall street uh so he's able to make a significant amount of money uh to the point where like initially he was more interested in philosophy and he thought he would make like half a million and then get out and retire and be a philosopher, but he just found that he had a knack for playing with these financial markets

and arbitrage and all this stuff. Well, we've been robbed of George Soros' great contributions to philosophy. Oh, don't worry. He would later go on to write plenty of books, so if you are interested in reading his philosophy, you have the ability. But so 1967 and 69, his at-the-time firm lets him set up these offshore funds that, again, are kind of based around a skirting tax law. But these are early hedge funds, and he plays with derivatives, and he does...

Skirting, mistress. This guy really likes fucking money. Yeah, oh yeah. But so he sets up this hedge fund, and again, you know, hedge funds would become more prominent later, but this is kind of the early days of them where they have kind of the 2 and 20 rule. So he's making a shit ton of money off wealthy european investors primarily when they're kind of young yeah yes we can cut that uh but so uh um in 1970 himself and a partner

uh leave this uh wall street firm that he was working for, and they set up their own fund, which is called Soros Fund Management. It's later called the Quantum Fund. So what exactly, do you know what they were investing in or how they were really making so much money? I know that essentially when they set up their own thing in 1973, they got heavy into the weapons industry, which we'll talk about in a second.

And then like their early investments in the 60s, the biography I read just kind of says they were in various European securities. Apparently, George Soros sent out a memo in 1969 that was about these investment vehicles that were going around called real estate investment trusts and essentially he predicted that they would have a growth and then a boom and then a

bust and he successfully predicted when the growth would be and then got out in time before these particular real estate vehicles collapsed and then it busted. Yes. He was also into foreign exchange. Yeah. So sort of being in the right place at the right time with the Marshall Plan, probably. Yeah, some of that certainly helped him out. You know, I mean, like, again, and of course, being an offshore fund, he was able to avoid taxes and government regulation, whereas we'll kind of get to in a second. He's definitely benefited from what would commonly be called insider trading or insider information. But so I do just want to talk about basically in 1970, they set up this fund himself and his partner set up this fund.

And early on, they're essentially getting heavy into the weapons industry. And I just want to quote a bit from the Robert Slater biography here. So is that a, him and his partner, is that a fund to polycool? It was some guy named Rogers who who we would part uh ways with in 1980 uh who's only worth uh several hundred million dollars what a broke bitch i know um but so according to the biography around 1973 about three years after they set up their fund they identify the american defense industry as a potentially profitable source of investment. Because Israel went to war in October 1973, it suffered a lot of casualties, lost lots of planes and tanks. So there was some indication

that Israel's military technology was antiquated. So Soros had the idea that American military technology must be antiquated as well. And realizing that the Pentagon's hardware was obsolete, he knew they would have to spend large amounts of money to revitalize it. And so basically himself and his partner traveled to Washington. They talked with Pentagon officials. They journeyed to defense contractors around America. And then they became convinced that they were right.

And so in mid-1974, they began buying up defense stocks, including Northrop Grumman, or I think it was just called Northrop at that point, United Aircraft, and Grumman. Yeah, they were separate companies. And they also took a piece in Lockheed at this time. So again, it's just kind of like a military-industrial complex. Oh, look at all those kids getting incinerated. That's where the money's at uh but yes so uh they make a healthy profit and then they also go back into defense again in 1977

and 1978 uh because um uh they their great insight was wall street soured on defense stocks because jimmy carter was president and was talking about peace and they were like well no that really doesn't matter what the president says defense stocks are always going to be a good bet yeah yeah apparently when jimmy carter came into office he was very anti-nuclear and then just like a couple of military advisors had to talk to him and then he was all in it was basically like a pre-obama administration type or like basically the same thing that happened in the obama administration where just like you know some generals talk to him and then he's like oh we okay we gotta we gotta amp up

these nukes like after spending the whole campaign talking about denuclearization they introduced it by saying uh mr president have you ever been to Dallas, Texas? But so, yeah, I mean, like essentially Soros, among other things, he's making his money on defense. This is what really makes him a multi-multi-millionaire. And we can argue about how much of that is self-made and how much of that is just weaponized Keynesianism and Cold War spending and all this stuff and essentially profiting off human death and endless war and all this kind of stuff. You mean self-defense?

But so, and George Soros was also one of the bondholders in New York City. New York City famously went through bankruptcy and the bondholders were prioritized. A lot of people identify this as kind of the start of the neoliberal era. So take with that what you will. We'll probably talk more about that if we get to some Rockefellers later. But so in the 70s, he's making his money off defense

and then 79, he renames it the Quantum Fund, which was a tribute to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. Fellow Nazi collaborator. You can never be simultaneously sure you're going to make money and that it's ethical.

But so his partner, Rogers, around this time leaves he had about a 20 stake in the firm uh soros held a 80 stake and wow around this time soros is worth you know tens of millions of dollars at minimum um so soros's first kind of uh breach with trouble is he is charged in 1977 by the sec um they charge him with civil fraud and violation of anti-manipulation provisions of federal security laws and so again quoting from the biography um it was this company called computer sciences and so he allegedly um used a broker or urged a broker to sell computer sciences shares aggressively the broker sold

about 70 of all the activity in computer sciences one day was um this broker that george soros had instructed to aggressively sell um and then basically uh there was a public offering that the sec said was uh it had been based on the artificially low price of trading at the end of the day. So essentially he engaged in, I guess not really a pump and dump, but essentially he colluded with others to drive down the price of a stock and then buy it back at this artificially low price when it went on a public offering. So it was a dump and pump. There you go.

And so Soros signed a consent degree with the SEC where he neither admitted nor denied, and he alleges it would have... You could say he did a Dirty Sanchez with that stock. Soros said it would have... Where was pump and dump when we first hit upon that joke that series of jokes uh but so soros said it would have taken him too much time and money to fight the sec here uh he says in 1981 i'm sorry uh to my listeners i want to issue a

correction cleveland steamer is what i was thinking of okay uh george soros said in 1981 uh quote the sec can't believe that one person can perform as well as i did without doing something wrong so they looked for something to latch on to um as opposed to the uh more uh realistic expectation which is that a relatively underfunded government agency caught you once and then uh also in 1988 he did another insider trade which he would eventually be found guilty in european court it was dragged all the way out to the late 2000s early 2010s where essentially a bank called society general uh one of his friends called him up and said that society general there you go the french bank and um one of his friends called him up

and said that they were going to um buy this bank they were going to do a hostile takeover or some sort of major investment which of course would drive up the stock price george soros doesn't go in with them on it but later he buys the stock clearly knowing this inside information um he's eventually like charged it's like he did this in 88 and then he gets charged in 2002 and then it drags on almost a decade and eventually the european high court upholds a fine so he just pays a few million dollars for doing this so those are the two times he's been caught but um without belaboring the point too much i do just want to say one other thing from the book which is essentially,

they just allege that the real crime is what's legal. Because George Soros, by the 70s, especially by the 80s, becomes a member of a very exclusive club, which the book says has about 2,000 members worldwide. But it's just the prime ministers, finance ministers, heads of central banks in the rich countries, you know, particularly in Europe and these kinds of things. And just quoting from the book, he could have a lunch with a central banker or courtesy call on a prime minister. One day in the early 80s, for example, Soros showed up at the Bank of England. He had been invited there to share his views on reviving the financial markets through monetary restrictions. He had attracted the banker's interest after purchasing one billion dollars worth of british bonds in 1980 i'm sure they had a wonderful lunch over at comet pizza and he was talking to michael lewis uh the the journalist

in 1993 uh and he said uh that after he met with the president of Moldova in the morning and the president of Bulgaria in the evening, you see, I have one president for breakfast and another president for dinner. Such encounters clearly give Soros an advantage over other investors. And again, just quoting from the book, he might have to wait months before getting something useful from a meeting. It was an offhand remark a finance minister had said at a lunch meeting three months earlier. The point was that he had met with the finance minister and had deposited the conversation in his memory bank for further use while others had been reading the newspapers. And so, again, this is just kind of like the legal version of insider trading, where certainly by the 80s, but definitely by the late 70s as well, he's managing so much money and he has so much connection with the world financial system that he is able to trade on information that other people simply can't trade on. And that's how George Soros became a billionaire.

Wow. What an illustrious life that led George to go from, wow, really, really rich dude to a really, really, really really really rich dude to a really really really really rich dude so in the mid so in the mid 1980s he's already uh multi-millionaire he's doing very well and he's essentially trading on insider information but in the legal sense that he's a jet setter he goes around europe in 84 he sets up up his foundation in Hungary with the Open Society's Foundation, essentially because the then communist government needed outside investors. And he used this as a way to kind of promote student and anti-government movements. Like he gave them like 400 photocopiers under the condition that they couldn't trace what they were used for.

So, of course, this became a big source of the underground press using these George Soros photocopiers. And again, it's kind of a weird thing where it's like Glenn Beck, for his part, argues that George Soros undermined four countries, but of course one of them was communist Hungary. So he argues George Soros undermined communist Hungary and that's why he's going to bring communism to the United States. I mean, it's all just ridiculous. But, and again, we don't really know.

They were really just photocopying the future flight logs for Jeffrey Epstein planes to hand out to his rich friends. They were photocopying his deportation lists uh but so yes we don't really know how much of george soros george soros for his part are uh says that he's much more interested in philanthropy than he is in making money and you know i would assume that oh yeah no his track record shows it i would assume at the point that you get to like 26 million billion i mean i guess there are carl icon guys but i would assume at some point you don't really care as much about making money but it has been alleged that george soros's eastern european philanthropy efforts have been another avenue for him to trade on insider information and use government contacts to know what is coming

and this has been alleged by multiple people and it seems certainly plausible i couldn't imagine him not doing that yeah it'd be crazy to be like oh he's got insider information he's not using it though but he's got it i'm gonna go to work tomorrow and be like yeah you know making money is great but i'm more interested in philanthropy um but so in the mid 80s he kind of goes back and forth between philanthropy and the fund though interesting story in 1984 he makes a big bet in the british market and then i'm just again quoting for the biography uh he buys uh stock in jaguar among others but according for the biography what was really at play was the single crucial fact that margaret thatcher was going to make sure that british privatization would be underpriced so essentially he makes

money in 1984 and 85 by knowing that the british government under margaret thatcher is about to sell off a bunch of public assets for less than they are worth right and these companies that are british that he buys are going to be able to make money because they are buying these undervalued formerly public assets so again nothing illegal about that, but man, does it make you feel dirty. He became a billionaire by making Jeremy Corbyn have to sit on the floor when he takes a railroad train. But by the early 1990s,

George Soros is a billionaire. He gains international fame in 1992 when he becomes quote the man that broke the bank of england uh because uh the british pound was at this point on the european exchange rate mechanism which was a precursor to the euro and was the idea that the british pound had to go within a certain price band of the uh german. Yeah, it had to be within a certain sort of multiple of whatever the mark was. And they were like countries that were interested in joining the future Eurozone basically would go on to the exchange mechanism and have to prove that they could like keep their currency stable.

Right. And so George Soros in 1992 enters into a $10 billion short position. Essentially, we've gone through shorting, but he borrows pounds to sell them later on the assumption that the price will go down. And by doing this, he puts a lot of pressure on the Bank of England in order to respond to this and keep their exchange rate mechanism stable, which they are ultimately unable to do. And they have to leave the exchange rate mechanism stable which they are ultimately unable to do and they have to leave the exchange rate mechanism and george soros makes about a billion dollars on this deal a lot of his reasoning was just simply based on like palace intrigue between thatcher and her deputies like because they're um made uh what's his name john major yeah yeah a deputy John Major, the Deputy Prime Minister, his whole thing was joining the exchange mechanism. And Thatcher was against it.

Right, and that's why Thatcher got pushed out, right? Because that was her last battle, was basically she was anti-Eurozone. And I guess she won in the end but uh you know brexit but uh like him like he he went on like multiple trips soros went on multiple trips to london to talk to people to learn about like yeah to learn about like the internal politics of the conservative party is he part of the reason that uh britain never went on the euro or i would imagine uh i don't know all the politics but getting driven out of the exchange rate mechanism was the precursor to the euro so

probably that had an effect on everybody being like okay let's pump the brakes here because we can't hold up this exchange rate mechanism well if he didn't cause it he didn't know about it before it happened um but so essentially uh he's a billionaire by the early 90s. He makes a billion dollars breaking the Bank of England, and this gets him international fame, particularly in England. But he's really, and then at this point in the 90s, he kind of steps away. He puts his fund in control of other people. Yeah, he likes to watch exactly he retires like jay-z after the black album and uh he writes various books he

writes his first book the alchemy of finance in 1987 and he starts writing these different books on you know economics and uh to a lesser extent philosophy um and he gets gets into anime with full metal alchemists. He puts out bland albums. And he gets much more into his philanthropy, which is, again, the Open Society Foundation. They set up in Hungary in 1984, Soviet Union in 87, Poland in 88. He funds the Solidarity Movement,

Czechoslovakia in 89, Romania in 1990. Interesting rumor is that when he sets up in Romania, people start spreading the rumor that he's going to sell Transylvania to Hungary. And he's, even in the early 90s in Hungary, he's the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, which continue to today, where in in 2018 they've had to leave hungary and relocate to berlin because the current right-wing government in hungary has like put out billboards displaying george soros as an enemy of the state and these kinds of things oh wow so hungary is also like we don't need transylvania we've got rocky horror nights already um but i guess like i want to sell your mud uh what really uh brings george soros into the mind of people like glenn beck is in 2003 he gets heavily involved in the project to unseat george w bush he was uh he's a liberal billionaire who's uh very horrified by the george w bush presidency

the war in iraq these kinds of things was just making him too much money in his weapons investments. And so Soros, he spends about $27 million at various groups, liberal groups, including MoveOn.org, Center for American Progress. ACT was another one. Well, that's why MoveOn was such a thing. Yeah. And again, $27 million is not nothing, but as we mentioned on a Koch Brothers episode in 2016, they would spend over $880 million in the 2016 election. So again, it is just kind of funny where these right-wing hysterics about the George Soros network, which is a drop in the bucket. For our listeners,

I'm very knowledgeable about this, but what's MoveOn.org? Oh, you know, it's a political group that got its name, and people forget this, from the Democratic Party activists urging liberals to move on from the scandals from the Clinton administration. Yeah, it was like, censor him and move on.

Yeah, just to get over it. For lying about his blowjob and having oral sex with a 17-year-old staff member. 18. Which, you know. And they do the important work of getting you to sign a petition that says there should be foosball in every high school cafeteria. And then using that, sending you emails every day for the rest of your life oh well did they get the foosball tables no you gotta spend those soros bucks somehow but yes so he uh and this is where he becomes kind of a right way to the most powerful

online petition empire in american politics this is where he becomes a of a right wing of the most powerful online petition empire in American politics. This is where he becomes a right wing bugaboo, because essentially before 2004, nobody really gives a shit about him. But he becomes an easy enemy for the right wing media to identify. You know, here's a bad billionaire. from this that several different right-wing books get written about George Soros and alleges he's a Nazi collaborator and that he funds all these liberal groups and wants to bring communism to America. And then, of course, Glenn Beck in 2010 that we played at the start of this program really brings this to a whole nother level. And then, of course, it continues on today where you have Alex Jones saying George Soros is charlottesville george soros is behind all of the protests against trump george soros is behind the woman's march

in 2017 etc etc um and again if he wants to fund this podcast we will delete it yeah full disclosure uh i have been paid to uh hold up signs in time Square by George Soros that say Trump is a Prussian spy. Indeed. It has a picture of him in a uniform with a hammer and sickle and a Prussian military

vest because I couldn't read. It took a lot of courage for us to do this pod today, folks. I mean, we have a lot... You know, we've had past relations with the Soros Empire. We're cutting against the grain right now. I want everyone to know that I'm not just against Arpwell. I'm against all people named Connor.

But that's basically the story of George Soros, is that in 2011, the dodd-frank act passes which would require more uh disclosure from hedge funds and this is when george soros gets out of the game because he doesn't want to disclose what his whose investors are and these kinds of things so in with the dodd-frank act george soros shuts down his hedge fund and makes it essentially just a family wealth management fund. So only his family invests in it now. And then in 2017, he pulls about $18 billion.

He retired to spend more time with his online petitions. In 2017, he pulls about $18 billion out, puts it into his Open Society Foundation, which, again, is a non-governmental organization that funds various, let's say, pro-liberal democracy movements in various Eastern European countries. And they're doing great. Yeah. He essentially, by 2011, had mostly retired from investing and turned his fund over and these kinds of things. And now he just focuses on his philanthropy and writing books and his political

activism. He gave, I don't know, like $8 million to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Which again, drop in the bucket. And you know, it made all the difference. I just want to say, during this period, between 2005 and 2010,

George Soros has a relationship with Adriana Ferrer. F-E-r-r-e-y-r 2005 to 2010 yeah and this is uh before he married his his third wife um and and so basically what happens here is that um before he marries his now wife, Alexis, I believe is her name. So this is an article written by Beth Levin on dealbreaker.com. And it goes through exactly the relationship between George and this lady, Adriana. So in 2010, he dumps for just no real reason. He just goes, I got to go.

And he promises her a dream apartment in Manhattan, which he then gives to his now wife. So this girl basically goes, I want this apartment. He goes, I'll get it for you, signs the papers. And then that night goes, hey, I got to tell you something. It's not good. It's written here. A few hours later, Soros whispers in Ferrer's ear that another woman, Tamika Bolden, is living in her apartment. This is a week later.

And she gets mad about this. And so Soros apparently slaps her across the face and attempts to strike her with a glass lamp narrowly missing. So at this point, a year later in August 2011, Adriana demands $50 million for broken promises, Ari dream apartments, and makes allegations with the assault and battery with the lamp and being slapped just now. At one point, Soros offers to pay $250 grand instead of $50 million, you know, because he is a cheapskate.

Soros is like, I got that lamp from a house in Hungary in 1944. It is a priceless antique. So then Soros shows up in court in 2012 with his now wife, and then he proposes to her and then waits until the anniversary of... Wait, at the domestic abuse hearing? Yes, yes. And then waits until the anniversary of her going public

with the demands to make the announcement of the proposal, I think. Anyway, um one thing i want to mention is that during the time that adriana and george soros are together he refers to alexis as his traveling nurse because because adriana is at school in columbia and he's just like no i'm not sexually attracted to her at all she's my traveling nurse you're in school that's why you don't travel with me but um this guy's a fucking creep anyway so during the fucking uh hearing though this girl adriana lunges at soros during the court hearings and then slaps headphones off of his head hits her own lawyer now fucking comments are loading anyway point is though is that he beat the crap out of

this girl for no real reason though she does sound kind of crazy sure sure uh in her own right she is a brazilian soap opera star um and you know once again 40 to 50 years her uh senior is he oh so she's like just conditioned to like shitty dudes to slap the headphones off of people. Everything in my life prepared me for this moment. She threw a drink in the judge's face, but I just love how George Soros was dating this girl for five years. And he's like, Oh, Hey,

by the way, we'll be having great conversations. And then she just won't talk for five minutes. Well, advertisements play. She'll fire a blank gun at me and say, to be continued. I didn't know my half-brother was still alive and having an affair with her. Oh, man.

So, obviously, I think we all know he clearly does not eat the butt. I mean, that's something clear here. If he did, he wouldn't be married multiple times, wouldn't be dating this girl and talking about lying about the nurse. Well, he does with his funds. Yogi, how do you think he got those fake papers in Hungary? That's true. Yeah, you know, you got to eat your way to the top.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's essentially just kind of the story of George Soros is a typical finance story. And the crime is what is legal, that he's made his money on the legal version of insider trading and government connections and these kinds of things. And for his part, he's, you know, made the typical liberal billionaire suggestion that there should be more regulation of these financial markets, but he's been able to make billions of dollars, almost 30, more than $30 billion without that. Right. You know, and just a couple random quotes from George Soros here. Quote, to be successful, you need leisure. You need time hanging heavily on your hands.

So anybody can follow the George Soros method. Just need time. Yeah. I mean, it was a complaint of his is he complains people just read his books to figure out how to get rich. And it turns out the answer was come to New York with $45,000 in family money.

First escape the Holocaust. Can I read a quote from this guy? Talk to world leaders. This guy named Stanley Druckmiller the holocaust can i read a quote from talk to world leaders uh this guy called named stanley druck miller who was one of um sources like close confidants at the quantum fund yeah he was sources fund manager for a time yeah so he's the fund both is and isn't legal of soros he said i've learned many things from george but perhaps the most significant is that it's not whether you're right or wrong, but how much money you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong. He said as he looked through the window with rain during the dark periods of his life.

That's fucking nuts. I like the idea of him giving his $8 million to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and being like, this will pay for at least three fake school shootings. We can hire the crisis actors. I will say, I think he's the only billionaire with a palindrome last name. I think that might be true. Hmm. Oh.

One other. Andy just came. George Soros writes in the Alchemy of Finance, 1987, quote, It will come as no surprise to the reader when I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of my self-importance. To put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes or even better, a scientist like Einstein. And so... Wow. That kind of exaggerated sense of self-importance

from a billionaire he compares him to einstein what a fucking chooch yeah yeah like king's general theory special relativity and then my trade uh blowing at the bank of england i i named a company after a misunderstanding of quantum mechanics. There's two biographies on Soros, the one that I read, and then there's also an authorized biography which he cooperated with, which is called Soros, the Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire. So certainly no God fantasies there. Just a Messiah figure. Well, gentlemen, what's the verdict we is he a good billionaire or is he not one uh strictly based on his fetishization of the mystic aspects of quantum mechanics um

i'm gonna say bad billionaire i just can't believe he slapped that one girl and almost hit her with a lamp oh that too yeah like you're lucky you're not a body at newtown connecticut i mean i enjoy getting his checks in the mail every month but that's basically it as far as yeah i mean it's like reading and i read the biography and i know there's a lot of information here and we didn't get to all of it, certainly. But it's I mean, he's a classic liberal billionaire where he's part of a class of people who have taken over the Democratic Party that was formerly at least significantly controlled in part by labor unions. And that has been replaced by this class of millionaires and billionaires who, you know, they might not like Bush's foreign policy,

but they certainly don't want to put more union control. Like, in fact, they do mention in this biography that in 2004, there was a group of billionaires, including Soros, who got together, and one of them actually suggested a unionization drive at Walmart as a way to build power, and Soros was like, no, fuck that. I'm just here to defeat President Bush. I have no interest

in unions so it's like I think the open society foundation probably does some good but again this is a private uh philanthropy uh private foundation and there are serious problems with with private charitable foundations where essentially one man's whims are what goes you know it's not it's not a bottom-up kind of thing it's like okay i'm going to tell you what the best good to do with my money is and so you have this npr interview which i'll certainly put the drop in after in post but essentially they ask him like don't you feel bad when you see homeless people and he was like i just don't give money to homeless people because he thinks that his good deed is giving his money to his foundation,

when, of course, the foundation just does what he thinks is the right thing for the world, which is colored by these liberal billionaire biases, where he thinks it's okay to still be a billionaire. Hey, why has it got to be colored? You know what I mean? Also, there's nothing mystical about Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. It's just a description of how particles on the quantum scale interact with each other. It's one feature of it. There's nothing magic about the uncertainty principle.

It's just a property of matter. Well, anything else about our friend George Soros? I think we covered it all. Okay. And with that... I'm still mad. This has been Grub Stakers. My name's Yogi Palawal. I'm Andy Palmer. I'm Sean McCarthy.

The episode was a day late because he wouldn't pay us. I'm Steve Jeffers. Alright, have a good night. See you next week. Thanks. I don't give money to beggars as such. I don't think that's the way to change things.