Grubstakers - Episode 83: Jeffrey Epstein (Part 2) feat. Matt Christman and Nick Mullen

Episode Date: July 22, 2019

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Andy Palmer. And so back in January we did this episode about Jeffrey Epstein and I'm very proud of it. I think it turned out very well. It's so well that in fact that he was arrested in July. Proud of you guys for making that happen. For that episode we were thrilled to be joined by Matt Chrisman of Chapo Trap House.

He couldn't make it today. We're very thankful for a follow up episode where he is here as well. Matt, thank you for being here. Oh, love talking Epstein. Yes. And the only way that episode could be better is if we also had the Hannibal Burris to Epstein's Bill Cosby, the man who popularized the myth. Famous comedian Jeffrey Epstein.

We're joined by one of the funniest comics I know. Nick Mullen is here as well. Hello. And we're just really thrilled, and I'm sure the audience is as well, to be able to sit and listen to these two great minds in this conspiracy theory, the Chomsky and Foucault debates of Pizzagate, as it were. But I guess I wanted to ask both of you just to start if having looked at Epstein before this arrest in July and some of the press reports that have come out today, is there anything that have surprised you so far about what you've seen and learned? The temple thing was weird. I mean, that was where it's like, come on. Yeah, man. Holy shit.

Right. I mean, it's like, oh, yeah, we found this big obelisk that says on the side, there actually is a basement in Comic-Con. And it's like, okay, well, why would you build that? Why do you have that on your island? And people are like, I don't know. Maybe it's because he's Jewish. He's a Jewish person and they

like building things. So that's a possible explanation. It could be a storage shed for tools. Yeah. I remember the first time I saw the temple I just thought, are you fucking kidding me?

I mean, there's only two explanations. The one is Yeah, the first time I saw the temple, I just thought, are you fucking kidding me? I mean, there's only two explanations. One is it's exactly what it looks like, and you're dealing with Moloch-worshipping reptilians. Or they're all just like really fucking irony-poisoned cutesy motherfuckers who love winking at what other people think they're doing. And they're like, oh, yeah, you think we're doing temple worship rituals? Ah, that's so funny. No, we just fuck the kids. We don't do any of that stuff, you dumbasses.

But we'll wind you up and make you get uh get upset about it if anyone's uh wondering what what's being described here about the temple like go on youtube and just look up epstein island drone right and yeah yeah well it's this weird temple that's got kind of like a a like an eastern look to it and then there's like bird statues on top and then statues of either Neptune or possibly Saturn. Right. There's a sundial, too. There's a sundial. The insider said it was Poseidon.

Yeah. A trident wielding Poseidon is on the temple. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, but the thing that sucks is that, like, 4chan knew about all this already. This was all just like P.T. Gates stuff. All of it was like QAnon stuff. They already knew about the temple. This is not news to anybody that was already into Clinton baby eating conspiracy.

That was the thing. We did this episode with with Matt in January and so I looked at like 4chan threads and I would always see Epstein is a Mossad agent and I would just think oh well they're just saying that because he's Jewish and they just assume all Jews are in Mossad yeah and it's like no yeah he actually probably is yeah it's not like the Mossad does nothing like they do things like they have a fucking job you know i mean i it's is it really that far at it like maybe they're doing it to fuck with the olympics again i don't know we won't know until everything shakes out because that's the job of intelligence agencies is to compromise people who have

influence you know uh it's like he's an american he has all these connections to american uh intelligent you know politics and business and and israel like jonathan pollard there's a long tradition of them spying on the united states he'd be a fantastic asset yeah i saw uh epstein was in that steven spielberg movie munich yeah i can't wait till we get eric banna as jeffrey epstein and daniel daniel craig is bill clinton epstein was the guy who killed that waiter in lily hammer yeah oh man i don't want to see the sex scene at the end with banna as epstein it'll be even more cringe inducing i haven't seen that movie in a while it's tight right it's good i liking it in theaters, but I haven't seen it since. Yeah, it's good.

But there's that scene at the end where he's having sex with his wife and he's flashing back on the Munich killings. And it's very over the top. One of the few Spielberg sex scenes, and it reminds you why he doesn't do them that often. And it makes you think. Except in E.T. That entire movie is technically a sex scene.

It's an alien that comes and he gets to do whatever he wants with children. And no one questions him except the government. He's the piece of shit government. He's just a penis. E.T.'s a penis. Like the way his neck moves. Right. His bulbous head.

Yeah, he's a man that's been kept alive for thousands of years by doing intergalactic travel, finding children to have sex with. And now this bastard new order government wants to take that away from him. Even though this has been the system forever. That's how we get interdimensional travel. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry.

So the temple thing like that like i guess you know more mainstream media picked up on the story like uh after the the you know the epstein arrest and uh like what i saw more than anything was like some interview with just some general contractor right they talked to some like fucking joe the plumber guy that's like well he's got you know a lock on the outside of the door. That's pretty weird. And that was all anybody talked about. And it's like, oh, you know.

Also, there can't be an elevator in there because the contractors would know about it. And it's like, well, the government hires contractors all the time to fucking build secret projects. There's plenty of people that'll build things for enough money. If anyone knows how to silence people, it's Epstein it's epstein it's not exactly fucking fake a goddamn

elevator there's really right strict department of buildings codes law with regards to sacrificial temples to mall exactly but anyways it's like that that that that door on the outside with the lock on it is just painted on it's like a facade it's not there's nothing in there or it's you know it's flush you can see where it's you know there's It's like a facade. It's not, there's nothing in there. Or, you know, it's flush. You can see where it's, you know, there's not even that indentation on the wall. But it's modeled after, I guess 4chan found this, this bathhouse in Syria, you know, that's got the palm trees, the pattern on the outside,

the gold dome. Everything looks similar to this bathhouse. But what's crazy is, did you follow that Isaac Cappy thing? No. So Isaac Cappy was an actor who was going nuts. He accused a bunch of other people. He accused Seth Green of pedophilia.

He said he used to be friends with Seth Green, and Seth Green brought him into some secret room in his house, and he's like, this is where we have sex with kids, or whatever. And then he increasingly became a pedo- know, became like a pedo gay guy. That could have been Colin Quinn if he got the part in Austin Powers. Yeah, well, he released all these videos and then killed himself. He like he jumped off a bridge.

But like witnesses saw like two people like trying to stop him. But it's like, you know, I mean, I don't know how two people can't restrain a guy from, from jumping off, from, from jumping off a fucking bridge. So it's like, you know, there's a theory that maybe they pushed him off or,

you know, who knows what, but he, he released a weird video. And then now they all have this thing where like, everybody has like a dead man switch, like a video that uploads when they die. Right.

And there was a video circulating that I may or may not be related to, to C not that says like this was taken to jeffrey epstein's island and it was a bathhouse in turkey and it's a bunch of like little girls wearing like ceremonial togas filling the bath with water and looking like sad and it's like just this bizarre video and then people were like no this is from this this like bathhouse in turkey and they like sourced it but then it turns out the temple is like modeled after this fucking bathhouse in syria and it's like i don't know man there's all this like weird shit that that is sort of connected one way or the other but that's my understanding of the state of things thus far well it's so fucking bizarre because he builds that temple jeffrey epstein does after he gets out of prison like 2009 to 2013 is our estimate of when it's built and i did like he had to like submit an

estimate of his finances to the government so supposedly someone probably tried to value the temple can't really do comparable sales to get that one um but it is just something where you know it's it's very bizarre and it's hard to get around, I guess an occult explanation. You would evaluate it with its highest and best use. So, I mean, it's a great location for any manner of private rituals with children

to gain influence with the wealthy. Maybe there's like a submarine bay or a stargate down there or something. What's weird is how shitty it looks. Yeah, it's got like ladders and cheap stuff. Well, the ladder is like a Freemasons reference, I think.

It's supposed to be. Yeah, the ladder is not like... I think that's supposed to be there. Wait, the one that's inside of it? No, no, no, the one on the outside. Oh, no. Oh, you're talking about... Yeah, there's like scaffolding and shit.

It looks like they're working on it. they're working on i mean they're obviously like tearing something down i don't know what work needs to be done on it you know a decade after it was built yeah um but yeah it just looks shitty like it just doesn't look like it would it is particularly well made yeah it does have that mcmansion kind of yeah well yeah it looks like a maintenance shed that's been like dolled up for some reason so it's like it it adds to this idea that something's like a miss with this whole it's just everything about it is just fucking weird you know i think he built it so that people like it's it's like an insurance policy if he gets caught it'll be like his rich friends were like you've got to build this it'll be so funny when you get caught everyone sees it at least you'll

have that. Yeah. I understand. Even if it's like, yeah, I'm a fucking millionaire or billionaire. I go around the world. I travel all the time. I got a taste for fucking bathhouses in Syria. This is my favorite bathhouse. I wanted my own bathhouse.

Rich people do dumb shit like that all the time. But it's like why you would make a shitty version of it. Yeah. That makes sense. like that all the time but it's like why you would make a shitty version of it yeah another coney island piece of trash gets rich and builds a fucking mick satanic sacrifice that's his whole thing is he he makes himself look much richer than he is to gain influence well he's obviously he has the island you know and then some people are like oh well you know it's because like the contractors you get down there they can't do the kind of work to actually, like, you know, like, cope the inside of that, you know, alcove.

Right. And put a door in, which is, like, pretty basic shit. Right. Like, it doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't be able to do that. You should go punch up the island, Nick. Yeah. You're into woodworking now. Yeah, they just do the Property Brothers episode.

We're thinking open floor plan. While Jeremy gets started on the work, I'm going to be downstairs in the basement. So we're going to need to fill in this mass grave over here with cement and make it into a basketball court before we get this thing on the market. I wish I could do something about this altar, but it's load-bearing. We're stuck with it. We were thinking about making this a nursery. Oh, you're planning on having kids? Yeah, about 500.

They get into some fight with the Historical Preservation Society. It's so funny, too, because imagine you're just like somebody that lives on the u.s virgin i don't know what like the closest one to this is yeah you know and you take your boat out to go fishing and you get like fucked up and you accidentally end up here you're like i'm just trying to get back to my house lost on the island i took a wrong turn man

I'm trying to get back they're just fitting you for a robe yeah I rewatched Eyes Wide Shut yeah just that guy

they're like okay well do you know the password I don't know I'm just trying to but the other password I don't know I come here and trying to go. But the other password. No, I come here and they say this is where you... I come, my board was just parked.

But we should, I guess, mention with regards to his wealth, his lawyers submitted something that said he was worth $559 million. And then they have, you know, properties. He has the little St. James Island, they said worth $60 million. Great St. James Island worth $22 million. Property60 million. Great St. James Island, worth $22 million. Property in Paris, property in New Mexico, property in Florida, the Manhattan mansion. But I guess the point is, essentially, they have every reason to lowball that. You know, like, Miami Herald found, like, $4.5 million in Paradise Papers accounts that he didn't declare.

So, the reality is, like is like yeah he's probably close to a billionaire if not an actual straight-up billionaire yeah um and it is just something where isn't everyone a billionaire now you know what they're telling us everybody's got a billion dollars but i guess except me and my friends um but you know i guess we could just kind of go through he was uh denied bail of course he had like 70 000 cash in his safe they found 48 loose diamonds like various carrots you know which is like very good when you need to to bail oh yeah that's the other thing prosecutor said he's not valuing his art and his diamonds collection, which like those are very good for money laundering because you can sell art,

you know, like Sotheby's never checks shit. You know, it's a very good store of value. If you need like access to a hundred million in a pinch, he's here to transport to cash too. Yeah. That's what the guy from the one MDB scandal that we talked about before

Joe Lowe did. Like when he went on the run after he got caught, he just took a bunch of Picasso's with him and that's how he Joe Lowe did. Like, when he went on the run after he got caught, he just took a bunch of Picassos with him, and that's how he's living. Yeah. But, you know, and so, of course, they also found an Austrian passport from the 1980s, which listed his residence as Saudi Arabian residence.

Yeah. And it's just all this kind of stuff where they denied bail because, obviously, he's a flight risk, but it raises the question if he was actually an intelligence, you know, a CIA. I think it's like clear that he was. You think so? Yeah.

Why would he have an Austrian passport? Like there was a fake name on there, too. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't. There's no reason for that. I mean, you could say, oh, yeah, used to have citizenship somehow. It's like that doesn't explain why he has a fake name.

Yeah. citizenship somehow it's like that doesn't explain why he has a fake name yeah and they tried to because the the government used that as evidence for his flight risk and then they not then the defense attorney said well he used that to in the 80s during the era of hijackings to prevent uh like muslim uh terrorists from realizing he was jewish and like killing him or something leon klinghoff ring him or something. And then the other thing they said is, and he never used it. It was just a safe in-case thing. And then they pointed out, well, there's a bunch of stamps in it.

There's fucking passport stamps in it. It was used. And they had no answer for that, but if it's a fake passport, then it couldn't have been used by anybody else, right? Because it's got his picture in it. So that just can't be the case. it couldn't have been used by anybody else, right? Because it's got his picture in it. Yeah. So that just can't be the case. He had to have been using this thing.

He literally was traveling under an assumed name. Right. Yeah. And so there's, of course, that Daily Beast. Vicki Ward reported that Alex Acosta, the former labor secretary at the time U.S. attorney, he told the Trump transition that, I was told Epstein, quote, belonged to intelligence and to leave it it alone he said he took one meeting about this and then left it alone um he didn't deny that Alex Acosta didn't deny that at a press conference and then I found like in 2001 there was a British

journalist named uh Nigel Roser who was writing about the royal family because Prince Andrew was hanging out with Epstein and he said Ep quote, has a license to carry a concealed weapon and once claimed to have worked for the CIA, although he now denies it. It's like, fucking, it's impossible to get a license for a gun in New York City. Him and Trump are the only ones. No, really, it's something like,

there's like 15 people that have fucking concealed carry permits. Trump did claim that he was one of them which is oh really yeah he did he said that which is one of his best funniest lies it's the idea of him carrying a gun there's a gun store in chinatown if you go in there well i went in there one time there's a chinese guy that works there he's like yeah get out no license get out it's like this is your business yeah you don't have. Get out if you don't have it. Like, immediately. Nobody goes in there.

Right. But it is something where it's like, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell is accused, she hasn't been charged with anything, of essentially in multiple sworn affidavits of being... Caring too much about the ocean. Of being his pimp. You know, like, bringing underage girls to him.

Actually, the term is bottom bitch. Yeah, your bottom dollar bitches. She's not the pimp. He's the pimp. Her job is to turn out new women. But so, yeah, her dad, Robert Maxwell, was like almost, there was an entire book written about how he was in Mossad. He was a British publisher who turned up dead in 1991.

He washed up off his yacht after he was either pushed or jumped in the the ocean and he he was british citizen and he got a state funeral in israel where um the speaker there said that nobody will ever know how much he has done for israel you know so it's like it makes sense where epstein meets his daughter gislyn maxwell around 1991. And then from there is where most of the abuse allegations come from, from the 90s, early 2000s. So it's like, I mean, it's totally conceivable he's either CIA or Mossad. kind of the open question is that Virginia Roberts is one of the accusers who sued Gislin Maxwell in 2015 for defamation because she called her a liar for saying Gislin Maxwell molested her along with Epstein. Yeah.

And then they settled, but these 2,000 pages related to that are all under seal, and then the second appeals court has ordered them to be unsealed, and they might even be unsealed next week. It's crazy that no one will care if it is just a weird Mossad thing. No one will fucking care at all that they spent billions of dollars that was funneled to us from U.S. taxpayers to make every elite in America rape children for some reason. And then people will be like, you know i don't know meanwhile

a russian person makes one face emoji and they're like it's a police state uh they're using your data to do something i'm just imagining them like uh whipping votes for the uh outlaw bds vote with the epstein tapes yeah what if all all of the politicians who are like, it's an Assad operation to blackmail all these politicians, and they're all thrown in jail, and then all the worst case scenario stuff happens to Israel, like they're immediately invaded, now that America's pulled out of everything.

Whoopsie daisy. Whoops. But that's the thing. If it is some sort of intelligence operation, then it kind of makes you wonder why would that be necessary? Because do you really need to do that to keep American elites on board with supporting Israel?

Well, if that is the thing that has been doing it. I guess. The amount of support for Israel has only just fucking increased with less need for it in the last 30 years. And it's like, what if that's the fucking keystone to the whole thing, is that they're all on tape sodomizing an eight-year-old in a weird Syrian background?

Yeah, I think, I mean, that might be it. I have no idea. But I think the alternate explanation is that it's not necessarily, the order of operations is sort of the other way, is that this is just a thing that happens, that Epstein filled a role that elite society needed of this procurer that could be trusted. I mean, his career path really does look like somebody who was literally groomed and drafted up through the ranks at every level by people more powerful than him with the idea that he had some value add to provide to them, which absolutely had nothing to do with his genius math abilities.

Yeah. Instead of the next James Bond being a black lady, it should just be a pedophile. Or it should be a black lady pedophile. She should be just having sex with children. Finally, we're doing it. Girl, we're showing that we can do it too. Well, we wanted to do two things with this one.

More representation, obviously, but also a more accurate look at MI6 and what really goes on in the intelligence community but I mean so this is a network that like persists it's a need that's filled in the elite community and that the

intelligence aspect sort of comes afterwards as something that they are aware of because they couldn't not be if they're like even basely competent and something that they are aware of because they couldn't not be if they're like even basely competent and something that needs to be basically monitored like it's like oh god they're fucking kids again well we got to make sure we know what's going on who's involved that so nobody who is genuinely like outside of the power nexus might get in there like insinuate themselves that might like create a situation where they have leverage to like fuck up what

is conceived as an american or israeli interests and it's just sort of like it's it's just it's the the intelligence department the intelligence industry or intelligence agencies are aware of this they monitor it to keep track on it and make sure that it isn't compromising them and that they're not really like it's it's good to have in the back pocket to have these people's you know child fucking on record but they're gonna do what rich people do they're gonna lead are gonna do what they do like they're gonna do what is seen as in the interest of you know the united states and and their client states like israel and saudi arabia you just and they're gonna cement those relationships through kid fucking ritually and the uh you know the cia and Mossad are sort of just there

to stand outside the door and make sure that no rogue Russians or something, a Chinese guy with a USB stick shows up. So that at the next trade conference, President Xi can just pull up a PowerPoint presentation. And all of a sudden, we're on the yawn. The entire power is gone. Let Huawei in.

Yeah. But if you had a video of President Xi eating children, I don't think anyone in China would care. No, that's the beauty part. Like, yeah, they're totally hardened against it. Yeah, you can't compromise a Chinese person. Yeah. Maybe if you have a video of them as a child

referring to an adult by their first name. That's the only thing that could do it. Confucian filial piety. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is something where there was that article in Vanity Fair by Gabe Sherman, and he quotes the appeals court ruling that says these 2,000 pages that are supposedly to be unsealed soon contain allegations against, quote, numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents,

a well-known prime minister, who I'm going to guess is... That's got to be Barack, yeah. ...of Israel, Israeli prime minister, 99 to 2001, and other world leaders, unquote. So it's something where it's like there's just a lot of speculation, which maybe we could add to,

but just from this like Vanity Fair article in the past decade the source a source close to Epstein said a guy who'd done business with Epstein said Bill Gates Larry Summers and Steve Bannon visited the mansion and this would be after he got out of prison see whenever I

remember I read about the Bannon thing a few weeks ago and I just immediately thought of that story about that fucking acid scorched bathtub at that rental property he had you know about that nick no so he uh had this very messy litigation in miami a few years ago before he uh i think when he was before he started breitbart i think when he was just sort of like running around doing coke and like trying to set up entertainment deals he had a uh he had a rental home in miami and he was sued by the owner after he left for just catastrophic damage like they just turn it into a fucking crack house basically just complete shit on the walls type stuff yeah and one of the things that they reported is that the the very expensive marble

bathtub had acid burns on it oh it's to like dissolve a body i mean that's what i thought immediately and it's like lol and now it's like hanging out with epstein that makes me think even more yeah he's just dissolving fucking bodies on there it's funny i like i read that don simpson biography recently and compared to the rest of them it's like he was like a fucking mormon there's just nothing he would hire prostitutes who were of age yeah and he'd slap them around you know but he would also pay them and never dissolve any of them he would have them fuck it like fuck him yeah shit and do like weird like they would wear strap-ons and he was in all sorts of shit yeah you know and nobody got dissolved nobody nobody was dissolved don simpson never

had anyone murdered he was just a fucking sex workers yeah he did yeah he was a moron that hated himself and uh but he was slick yeah and he could like sell shitty movies well it is something where so these documents these000 pages, they all relate to Virginia Roberts as one of the accusers. She was trafficked by Epstein between 99 and 2002. That's in the Billy Joel songs. Billy Joel met her. He's the one

that turned her out. That's what in the air tonight is about. Billy's drunk and he's writing songs. That's what in the air tonight is about. We got a problem. Billy's drunk and he's writing songs. Billy's writing songs. He's using everyone's real name. He's writing a sequel to We Didn't Start the Fire.

It's just a list of everyone on the flight logs. Prince Andrew Bill Clinton. But yeah, so Virginia Roberts has alleged that Alan Dershowitz... If you think about it, Long Island is the original pedophile island. That's the original little St. James is Long Island in its entirety. Virginia Roberts has alleged that Alan Dershowitz raped her at the New Mexico mansion. So the thing is, like, you know, I don't know if we mentioned this.

I started telling people because I don't think they give a shit, but I visited the Lampoon. We did a show in Boston. The Harvard? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I guess Dershowitz's grandson wrote for the Lampoon for a little bit. And so all these, like, Lampoon so I guess Dersh's grandson wrote for the Lampoon for a little bit. And so all these Lampoon kids. I bet his fucking packet is amazing. These Lampoon kids knew him or whatever.

And they were like, oh, you know, he's kind of lame. But one time he was bragging about losing his virginity. And he had just gone on vacation with his fucking grandpa. And after all that fucking Epstein shit came out we like figured out what dates those were and they were like when he was like i brought my grandson on the plane so it like fucking lines up with like it you know him getting like fucking a child getting his like you know bring his grandson along to you know get his cherry popped on this jesus christ now you know that's all fucking hearsay or whatever but but would someone from Harvard lie?

That's never happened. He's a co-head writer on SNL now. Yeah. But so I guess I just mentioned that because another thing is Jeffrey Epstein's black book was, you know, the housekeeper in Palm Beach tried to sell this. He got charged with extortion for it. He tried to sell it to one of the attorneys,

and he certainly died in 2014 but before he sold this black book and you can look at it on gawker he circled names that he's alleged were their witnesses or perpetrators and the thing is like former democrat new mexico governor bill richardson happens to be circled in there another uh new mexico governor is in there as well so it's just something where it's like we're speculating about what's in these 2,000 pages when that came out initially I started getting interested in Epstein again

after the Kevin Spacey thing because it's like Kevin Spacey ties in the singer or whatever and I was more concerned with David Geffen and Spielberg who I think are like you know also pedophiles well that's the other 4chan thing. So we should probably take that.

And Epstein's the nexus, though, because like Spacey's there. Spacey's heavy on Epstein, too. Yeah, Spacey's there, whatever. But Chris Tucker is on those like flight logs. And I remember looking at it and then seeing somebody be like, oh, it's a different Chris Tucker. That's what I thought, too. That makes sense. But then I looked, you look into it and it's like, it's that Chris Tucker.

And it's like, what if Chris Tucker is the one behind it? Nobody's really considered that. Bam! I mean, the guy he's literally only been in four movies in the last 20 years. No, yeah, it's fucking the Rush Hour movies,

Fifth Element, and then that's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That is it. That's it. Why is he hanging out with Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson and all these huge celebrities? They love Rush Hour. Yeah. It's like every four years, he's like, I need to justify why I'm involved here.

Let me hang out with Jackie Chan in front of a green screen for two weeks. Right. And so from that Gabe Sherman article, a person involved with litigation against Epstein told him, quote, it's going to be staggering the amount of names. It's going to be contagion numbers. Just like the kind of people who would be in these

2,000 pages and subsequent disclosures. But I guess if you're a D-list, you're probably hoping there's a lot of A-listers in there. We all move up. I'm going to be fucking Tom Cruz. But I guess if you're a D-list, you're probably hoping there's a lot of A-listers in there. Just kind of keep the attention. We all move up, dude. Yeah, everyone. I'm going to be fucking Tom Cruise.

I got his spot. I get to fuck Nicole Kidman. Damn, she's so hot in that movie. Yeah. Damn. I was thinking, so the other thing is, what's his name, the Washington Post guy, Dave Weigel? Yeah. thing is like um what's his name the washington post guy dave weigel uh he reported that um they found like cds with name with writings on it like young name and then name which are supposedly like

the blackmail cds you know yeah these names together how many think about how many of them are on jazz drives they didn't account for media changing yeah what if that's the reason that fucking that that like optical media or removable media has changed the reason they had to push sd cards is because bill clinton's on a fucking on a floppy disk nobody can look at the cd anymore oh we gotta we gotta come up with let's push those film drives. Let's get those going. We're going to switch to the cloud. Yeah, that's the reason there's a push to the cloud, because the cloud can be hacked

and compromising material can be destroyed. Yeah, it's all got to be hardware. Other than they've got a bunch of like uh private line wires but yeah you turn that on your computer just melts yeah yeah yeah yeah no they uh they also found a cd in there labeled uh stanley

kubrick heart attack done i mean i i am intrigued by that argument that like you know that eyes wide shut is his uh his attempt to sort of you know shine a light on these people that he was aware of. And that fucking scene, you just watched it, the scene with him and Sidney Pollack in the billiard room. That is one of those Ned Beatty Network type moments. Really looking into the eye of power and how terrifying it is.

But it's still so fucking coy. He's like, they were just doing that to mess with you. really looking into the eye of power and how terrifying it is. Yeah. But it's still so fucking coy. Yeah. You know? He's like, they were just doing that to mess with you. Yeah. And also, they're just like having sex with adult prostitutes wearing stupid masks. It's not that bad, really. It's just pretentious, honestly.

It's like, just fuck a girl on a pile of money. What are you doing with this stupid? You don't need to do all this shit if you're just having normal sex with an adult person. Yeah. So I just wanted to talk about a couple names that are speculated to be linked here. The billionaire Leon Black is a private equity guy. We'll get back to him in a second.

He was a frequent dinner guest of Epstein's according to a Vanity Fair profile before Epstein got arrested. Ronald Perelman, another billionaire. Glenn and Eva Dubin. Apparently Glenn Dubin's a hedge fund billionaire. But Eva Dubin, some articles have pointed

out that she was one of the people who helped get Epstein back into Manhattan High Society after he got out of prison. She founded Mount Sinai's Breast Cancer Center. She also just happens to have her name circled in Epstein's black book so it's something where it's like she's a former miss sweden and new york socialite who epstein

dated at one point and uh who obviously after prison um uh tried to get helped him get back into manhattan society she wrote a letter to epstein's probation officer saying that she feels a hundred percent comfortable with epstein around her family and her teenage daughter at the time. Right. Yeah, and there's no reason to say that. Right. Exactly. There's, like, I attest to his character.

This is a good man that fucked up. That's it. You don't have to be like, I would let him spend private time with my child. It doesn't make any fucking sense. It's like, you know, I mean, like, I can't remember the fucking sense it's like you know i mean i i like i can't remember the exact details but have you read the theories that the uh like the uh uh it's not menendez or ramira which is the brothers menendez menendez brothers oh yeah they were being pimped out by their parents what to to like hollywood people like there was like that pedo gate and that's

why they flipped out and fucking killed their parents is because they were being like sex trafficked by their parents basically. And the thing is like people sort of have just written off what they said about what their parents did. But you know, there was the first trial was a mistrial

because largely because they were considered credible by the jury. Like they believed them. Yeah. I mean, you look at that, that fucking uh even the michael jackson documentary and they like try to paint those parents in a more sympathetic light but it's like you were pimping your fucking child out to michael jackson right you know you know

what the fuck is going on like there's no way you don't know that i don't like know it's like it's not a thing where it's like you know people like fuck up and leave their kid in the car. That's just absent-mindedness. I don't care how fucking stupid you are. If a rich person is like, I want to hang out with your boy one-on-one and have him sleep in my bed, it's like at no point you know you're making a fucking deal with the devil there. They're like, yes, he's probably molesting my son, but he took us to Cirque du Soleil. So if that's the sacrifice I need to make to see French clowns, I'll do it.

I mean, yeah. I'll do it. We got to meet Barbara Streisand. Yeah. It's not just rhythmic gymnastics. They do other things. And that is awful, but, know it's you're exploiting people's desperation their desire to be around celebrity their desire to be at a higher level

than they can uh but like these people who are the people who came out of the woodwork to stick their neck outs to defend epstein after he got out of jail. You look at the culture of ass covering and public relations around really rich, powerful, famous people. All of that goes out the window for this guy who got convicted by whatever you want to say the charge was. Everyone

knew it was fucking kids. Fucking young women. Those people are defending themselves because it's like no one in that... Especially fucking Hollywood. We work in the entertainment industry. You know how it works. People are waiting for you to fail. You get something,

you get something good. People are like, I'm so happy for you. The second things start looking bad. They got the biggest shit eating grin on their face. Of course. They can't,

everyone in this business, people would love, people who have known fucking like Steven Spielberg for 50 years. You pick the most successful guy you can think of in hollywood if they like oh my car broke down and now like all my movies are like

tanking or whatever people would love it and they would love to be like oh i don't know him anymore you know they would love that that's like the entire entertainment industry is built on results and not giving a shit about people as individuals. So for anyone, especially elites, to say, no, he's actually a good guy, it's entirely just projection. Exactly. They have to be defending protecting themselves, protecting a culture that they're part of,

a thing where Epstein is an integral element, where he needs to be able to be certain that he will be vouched for, that he will not be left out in the cold, that they will not be made vulnerable by that. They probably got a video of Jon Voight fucking Angelina Jolie. I would not be surprised

if there's not a video of him from like fucking 35 years ago making his daughter blow him. He did really get really invested in Israel over the last few years. He really, really cares about Israel a lot. He's not even Jewish. He's not even Jewish. He's not even Jewish and it's like,

it's always unprompted. It'll be like, like the biggest story will be like fucking, you know, oh, Lee Iacocca died and then John Boyd's like, if you don't love Israel,

you should fucking kill yourself. You should die. You should, a horrible death. And people are like, well, John, what are you, no one's saying anything.

There's no reason for this. He's like a fucking guy that named like a fucking Obergrupp and furor and he can't not spend his days screaming about israel very late in life yeah very late in life conversion conversion to to israel first as his entire politics it's interesting yeah no they got that video oh yeah on an eight millimeter somewhere yeah i did want to highlight one name that I haven't seen in the press reports that I found from looking through this book James Patterson wrote, or his co-writers wrote.

Is it Bill Stills' Money Changer? The President is Missing? Because Bill? That Mario and Luigi inspired. Well, the funny thing is, so James Patterson did another interview with New York Magazine about this book after the Epstein arrest, and he said something to the effect of like yeah we looked into the bill clinton thing and there wasn't anything there so see that oh yeah i saw that

interview which is so funny because he's like it's like that's that's what he was waiting for the entire time is to exonerate bill clinton he's like yeah epstein and it's like you know happened in 2006 or whatever. It's good that they finally got the guy because this is a really bad guy. He's the bad guy. That's important to remember. And they're like, well, what about Bill Clinton? No, no, no, no, no.

Well, see, that's just it. It's like if Epstein is the nexus of this sort of power elite pedophile ring that he really does look like he is more and more, then how is he on trial you know how has he there's only two real explanations one is the q is 100 correct and the trump is doing like a 30 year long like undercover like he went to the island for recon or whatever and he's like i'm gonna get you guys when i become president and now he's

springing the trap i love that story i mean yeah amazing it's it's it's amazing but like just looking at his brain dissolve in front of you unless he's doing like that classic snl sketch where reagan with phil hartman behind closed doors he's got all the fucking contra routes and he's doing the math in his head and like speaking five languages unless that's the case then at some level there is deniability built into this people are aware that like there's enough connections cut there isn't enough like smoking gun stuff to connect to anybody who's really important and this is what nixon would have called a limited hangout where you like sacrifice what what is no longer savable to keep everything else. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there would be some sort of like spinning off of people that you can sacrifice or whatever.

Right. You know, throw them a bone. But it's like I like to think that Trump is sort of like he is Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut, but instead of being that character, he's more of like a Beverly Hills Ninja type. Where he's gotten in there by accident, you know, and they like thought he was smarter than he was,

and now he's ruining everything by being like, he's got an eyelid. I mean, that fucking, because, you know, it's like liberals are going nuts for that. Like he likes, you know, some of them, you know, beautiful women as much as I do, some of them very young, which is funny because if you like, like coverage of it links to that New York Magazine article and you read it and the next paragraph is like

just a glowing review of by bill clinton of jeffrey epstein right but you read the whole thing and that's part of that theory is that you look at that article and and trump's basically calling him a pedophile you know and then the rest of it is like bill clinton being like oh actually he's a good businessman you know or whatever what it's like Bill Clinton being like, oh, actually, he's a good businessman or whatever. It's like it's not that, you know, it's some like brilliant, like contrivance on Trump's part to sneak in that he's a pedophile. He's just like, hey, do you hear this guy fucks kids? Well, no, everybody does. No, I'm just saying, Bill, you fuck kids.

I've seen you do it. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah it's homer at the stone guys that is true because like he he was clearly aware of the stuff and like we i mean he is the only president for current or former who has been accused in you know sworn affidavits of doing rape with epstein uh uh but he also But he also used to brag about how much he was involved with the mafia. He would brag about it all the time. I get mob guys in here all the time.

We do great business together, which they literally did. I mean, as he's a New York real estate guy, there's no other way. So yeah, his brain is so special that the fact that he is implicated in these things yeah now that he's president just doesn't compute yeah like it's only what's right in front of it he probably doesn't even remember even that he fucked kids with epstein he's just like that's a bad guy he

built he's and then like everyone on fox news says oh he's connected bill clinton's like bill clinton i knew it these guys to do it yeah you were fucking kids with him dude yeah no terrible terrible yeah which almost makes him sort of perfect if he's this virus that just sort of destroys the system i mean it's it's great yeah no it kind of is it's like i'll vote for a virus it really is like trump is sort of like you know one of those fucking like swine flus that develops by by close proximity of human populations like livestock like like this culture we've created like political economic empire the media it's like just created this fucking virus that just took over and just is now just blitzing the entire uh body politic yeah he's agent smith yeah well so yeah and it's interesting because essentially epstein was a democrat fundraiser

up until he was caught and convicted so it's like you know can i say real quick how great it is that bill clinton released a statement with such an obvious lie about how many times he was in the plane he didn't he didn't it wasn't a lie it's just very like oh it's clinton yes clinton-esque like craft work in terms of fucking like just like cutting the four trips. So four trips could equal 24 or 26 different flights. Because each leg of the journey is like you got to stop, refuel, and then the plane takes off again. I mean, I don't know if they're direct flights or what. But so let's say he took four trips, four times, you know.

He had layovers in the private plane. Yeah. Well, layovers, yeah. They have to refuel or you don't want to sit on a plane for fucking 18, 19 hours. They are elites. There's no reason why they shouldn't stop. Right. We'll just spend the night in fucking Berlin or whatever, sleep in a hotel, get back on the plane and continue the flight.

So, I mean, unless you're looking at like the actual flight logs it does sort of work out i don't believe it i don't believe that it was four trips but that's the kind of shit that you know you can like you can go through that whole statement and just i mean it's like so carefully fucking crafted i mean it's yeah this is the the is is motherfucker so it's like everything in there checks out but i mean it's like really like a manipulation of language in a way that well did you see that barack statement that was like that too yeah yeah my favorite thing in the bill clinton thing is like bill clinton was not aware of the crimes jeffrey committed in 2009 right not that he was not that he was convicted like convicted of is not aware of the crimes he committed in 2009.

So he picks one year and then says, I don't know what he did that year. That's how the statement plays. But the fact that these people are so fucking stupid that they're going to be like, just lie! Everybody gives a shit. The people that still like Bill Clinton are going to like Bill Clinton no matter what. He's just got that instinct.

It's like the lawyer, the inveterate ass-cover covering lawyer thing. No! Money down! Oh, I just was Barack thing. The pictures that were revealed of him going into that into Epstein's house. How

fucking horny do you have to be? Because this is 2016 right? Or was it 2014? 2015, I think. 2015. So well after he's already got the fucking black, the scarlet pee on his jacket at all times.

Right. And he's going into the house, and he knows he shouldn't be going to this fucking guy's house because he's got like a half-assed attempt to cover his face. Right. He's got the thing over his mouth and then there's and then they like got 15 russian uh you know uh manchurian candidates coming in like sex workers coming in like within five minutes it's like he knows what's gonna happen

he knows it's gonna be revealed but he just can't do it he can't stop he loves it too much well and so his statement was so funny to me because i think the quote he uses is like he visited him like more than 10 but less than 100 god damn also like more than 10 right he's a fucking pedophile i have i have been i have been around i will say it right now, I have been in the company of a convicted pedophile precisely zero times. I don't have to give a range at all. And honestly, if you have to give a range of more than one, you need to explain yourself.

It's like, well, you know, it could be 11. And if it's 11, what's the big deal? Now, if it was 102, we'd have to talk. But if it's 11, come on. Haven't we all been there? I'll come clean and say I was a couple times, but it was in the Boy Scouts and we didn't find out until later.

That is true. I would like it if somehow it turns out through some weird network that this was all brought about by that Absolute Unit guy that had his picture taken. That he's the only good actor in all of this. And he somehow set it up that day with picture taken. That he's like the only good actor in all of this. And he somehow set it up that day with the queen.

And then he gets to come back into the spotlight. Like that picture of him, that was actually a coded mission go signal to get it going. Like we're going to bring on the network. The absolute lad has signed off. Yeah, Ehud Barak said he was on the island island but there was no child orgies at the time or something like that you know but um oh yeah so this one guy who's i don't know how pivotal he is i just didn't see him named in

any press reports and i thought this was interesting so in the james patterson book orin kramer is a hedge fund guy he started a hedge fund provident lp in 1992 was an obama fundraiser bill clinton appointed him as a member of the quote commission to study capital budgeting but from this james patterson book in 2008 uh or sorry jeffrey epstein in the mid-2000s convinces alan dershowitz to invest in this guy's head fund hedge fund which is going fine this is trump trump tries to become one of these guys and he's like oh yeah it's done a charity called the the good guy fun for not fucking children you can't donald it's got to be more cryptic you can't just call why it's just that we don't fuck the kids that's a good example because he

did have a phony charity and he used it to buy paintings of himself. Oh, yeah. So, Oren Kramer. So, Jeffrey Epstein convinces Alan Dershowitz to invest with this guy. And then the story from Patterson's book is 2008. Of course, the bottom falls out. So, Alan Dershowitz loses all his money in this investment. The story is, in 2008, Jeffrey Epstein visits Oren Kramer at his Manhattan office and told him, quote, it's very much in your interest to make Alan Dershowitz whole, unquote. He makes Alan Dershowitz.

Get his foreskin back? Yeah. He makes Alan Dershowitz whole. He refunds his money 100%. And so it's like, why the fuck do you do that if Jeffrey Epstein visits you? Like, how else are you going to get your money back from any wall street guy unless they have something on you and what i found interesting is according to politico as of a week ago orin kramer is a major fundraiser for pete buddhich so it's so it's it's something where it's like again epstein was a major democratic fundraiser and then you have that fucking tweet from nancy pelosi's daughter

best tweet in the world where it's like we think some of our some of our faves are going to be caught up in this. So it's like you have to imagine there will be a lot of Democratic donors who are at least named in press accounts if not actually charged with

something. Yeah. And like I was saying before that we recorded they are all in the room with this guy because he's a relatively small group of people who are

like big money fundraisers for especially for Democrats. Yeah. And they're there and they are big money fundraisers, especially for Democrats. And they have these fundraisers where they're all together. They're in personal proximity. They know each other's businesses. One of the reasons they do this shit is to network with each other. They know that this guy, even if they're not kid fuckers, they know that his whole stated business is bullshit.

Right? Because they're in the world. So they know he doesn't have a hedge fund. Because a cursory look at this means, oh, he doesn't have a hedge fund. He doesn't have any of the evidence of a hedge fund. Never does anything. Has no employees. Does nothing hedge fund related.

Publishes no results, has no clients. No patents on any algorithm. There's no evidence that he ever was in a circle of other hedge fund managers. Yeah, he worked in finance in the early 80s or something, and then his record from that time is bullshit, apparently. No, the whole thing, his entire career is bullshit yeah so he was a uh college dropout who who got a job teaching uh math and physics at adult school very prestigious school in manhattan without qualifications he's not qualified for that job

yeah while he's there he is an open pervert there's a whole there was an article i don't know if you saw this about when he was at the Dalton School. You should read this shit. He was like, it was the 70s. He's walking around with like a shirt open to the navel, basically hitting on the students. Yeah.

You know, in a city where if you like leave fucking peanut residue on a kid's lunch, like the fucking lunch lady's going to ADX Florence. Yeah. They're like, nobody says a word.

And then one of the and he got that job from bob bar's uh dad right uh and then uh who's fucking oss with maxwell what i didn't know that yes he was from oss during world war ii which all which gerlino maxwell's father also was in uh so he gets plucked out of there once again no qualifications to work uh at bear stearns where he has he doesn't do anything and gets it gets except get involved in a fucking pyramid scheme or like a fucking ponzi scheme that was after bear stearns uh but then he gets plucked by les wexman into staking him to a hedge fund with no published clients gives him, I mean, in the public record, gives him a mansion.

That house he has in the Upper East Side, there's no record that he paid any money for it. Lexler gave that to him as well as his power of attorney. So this is a guy who has basically been drafted through the ranks to fill a spot because you wouldn't want a guy in that job. You wouldn through the ranks to fill a spot because you wouldn't want a guy in that job you wouldn't want your pedo dealer in the elite world to be anybody with independent power or money of his own because then he has a power he has a independent uh like power base to leverage you if he if you are all if he is always if you always if he is always your

you know uh your client basically like he's you you bring him in, he's always going to be at your disposal. So then he goes to these fundraisers with this phony hedge fund that anybody in that room would have known immediately was bullshit. Because they're like, I know these people and they don't know who you are. Like, I'm a hedge fund guy. Really? Bullshit. Immediately they would know that. But nobody says anything and just out of self-preservation you're like i don't want a

fucking ponzi guy in here with all these fundraisers what if what if he blows this shit up what if my candidate that i want to get elected gets roped in with some guy doing some financial crimes yeah there would be this just an instinctive you know uh the like an immune system would kick in. And it never did, which means there was some high-level awareness of what was going on and a knowledge that, no, I mean, yeah, of course, he doesn't have a hedge fund, but he's cool. I mean, at a certain level, it doesn't matter, because if you're any lower than that, all you need is somebody higher than you saying he's good, and then you're done.

You never think again. All you need is somebody to vouch for him. But at the top level, people had to vouch for him. So, I mean, that means that at these elite levels, his position in that community was known. Because he was not giving them value through his fucking mathematical genius. Because there's no evidence that he had any. He's never shown any mathematical brilliance that would indicate this. Which, if he's coincidentally a huge pedophile and also a math genius, just to keep the fucking facade up, he would have done something to justify himself. And like you said, patent an algorithm, show some sort of real market wisdom.

Never did. Never even tried. He took pictures in front of chalkboards with math equations that don't add up. Yeah. Just hangs out with guys like Pinker

and Hawking. It must suck to just be a pedophile, like a regular pedophile and you're like, so that, he just gets to, they pick one guy.

Right. No, that's basically he's the lottery winner. Yeah. It's like if he had not just through pure right you know

met the right people it's so funny it was a joke I tried to get to work when I first started stand up and it like the joke was funny to me because it was absurd

but like there's like that trope in movies where there's he was the best hacker and they arrested him and now like we want you to work for us right

you know and I was like how funny it would be I work for us. And I was like how funny it would be, I would do it on stage, it would be like how funny it would be if there was a pedophile who gets arrested like he was the world's best pedophile. And they're like you work for us now. That's him? That's literally Jeffrey Epstein.

Because if Epstein was like slightly less socially ingratiated. Here's how stupid the intelligence community is too. Probably in the early 90s there was a guy at the CIA that saw one of those hacker movies like, badass. He was like, we should do that with pedophiles. We should do that with every crime. But yeah, if he was slightly less socially ingratiating, if he hadn't by happenstance run into the right rich people in Manhattan who took a shine to him and realized what was going on and were able to communicate to him and he was able to communicate he would just be a guy in sweatpants with a fucking ankle monitor on watching fucking disney kids yeah you know he would just be like a serial uh uh

fucking sex offender like in a group home yeah right so and so we mentioned steven hoffenberg so epstein leaves bear stearns he's working with this guy in the mid-'80s to the late-'80s. Hoffenberg in 1997 pleads guilty to running a $450 million Ponzi scheme. Hoffenberg, you know, take his word as you will, but he says that Epstein was a co-conspirator in this Ponzi scheme. He says that the government just showed him favoritism and didn't charge him, which, you know, if you believe he's an intelligence agent, it makes sense. Maybe they don't charge a fucking CIA guy.

But so maybe that's a source of his money. But the most likely source of his money. He's a licensed pedophile. Yeah. So, you know, maybe he got to keep some of this fucking Ponzi scheme money and got away with it. But the most likely source of his money is Les Wexner, the Victoria's Secret guy. You know, and so I guess I wanted to just kind of go through some biographical stuff with this guy because it's all pretty fascinating but there's a there's an article in bloomberg um

let me just see if i yeah it's it's by this guy joe knows uh no sarah uh he looked at the 990s and 13ds for the foundations and trusts that epstein uh and les wexner set up because les les wexner the victoria's secret billionaire gave Epstein like total fiduciary over all of his trusts and assets, power of attorney, all this shit. So this Bloomberg article looks at it and I won't go into too much detail, but essentially he finds that through these foundations,

Wexner gives Epstein $250 million. Like it's, it's just something that happens where and then there's like another really weird transaction his resume at that point like fucking high school teacher worked

at Bear Stearns for a while got stitched up in a fucking Ponzi scheme that's his entire there's a million traders on that fucking island right you know who

have actual track records and have yeah I have more connections and have results and this guy gets 200 million dollars I stand by it man Shkreli's the only good one You know, who have actual track records and have more connections and have results. And this guy gets $200 million. I stand by it, man. Shkreli's the only good one.

Said it at the time. I continue to say it until they let him out of prison. But yeah, so it's this 13D filed in March 2002 that shows that Epstein gets this transfer of about $250 million worth of stock and other assets. But then another weird thing happens where Epstein had a foundation called C-O-U-Q. Cuck? Yeah. Is that a last letter? Yeah.

And so basically it had $20 million in assets, this Epstein Foundation. All of it was from Wexner. But the thing is right after, a month after Epstein gets his deal in Florida, he transfers $46 million to Abigail Wexner, Les Wexner's wife. He transfers $46 million to her foundation.

$14 million came from Cuck or whatever. So it's like he's sending this money back. What's interesting is she is four. It's another weird detail in the story. Wexner's wife is a four-year-old girl. But this is called YLK Charitable Fund, and it makes two donations,

and then it shuts down with $33 million, which again funnels back into Les Wexner's money. So it's like, why the fuck is he sending him $46 million right after he makes this guilty plea, you know? So there's just a lot of like weird questions in the financials. I really recommend that Bloomberg article. I'll link it. But, you know, so apparently $250 million of his fortune comes directly from less you can't

trust bloomberg not to be obfuscating detail oh yeah no it's so funny like watching bloomberg news and hearing them report about les wexner and having to be like so we're really sorry mr wexner we know you're a valued customer and you've not been accused of any wrongdoing whatsoever but we have to report that uh he gave les wexner gave epstein his 737 one of his private jets given directly to him by uh wexner as we mentioned the 77 million manhattan mansion they bought it together in 1989 but then he just transferred to it for zero according to public records um and you know so i would love it if warren buffett's implicated oh he's the sickest one for them all that would really please me if he was outed publicly as just the the most

horrific type of pedophile because he's often seen as just down to earth like a regular joe billionaire i hate him it's so sick his whole thing is disgusting i fucking hate him it's like he honestly tells you it's like yeah no i live in the same house I bought in the 50s and I just like to eat burgers and eat ice cream. It's like, that makes you more psychotic. That makes you more psychotic than anybody who just like sets fire to money

in like a fucking ritual of just conflagration. He increased his position on Delta right before all those Boeing planes started killing people. Jesus Christ. And then afterwards he was running PR for Boeing and for whatever reason, the media never fucking bats an eye. He just gets away

with that shit. No one is ever fucking critical of Warren Buffett. And he's like, I would not hesitate to fly on a Boeing 737 MAX or whatever the fuck they are. The ones that were killing people. He's like, I would have never hesitated to do it. And it's like, well, you're never going to.

And he's like, and I guarantee you they're working very hard at Boeing 24-7 to resolve this issue. And it's like, well, were they doing that before the planes killed people? He has a major share in all the major airlines. He's a smart investor. It's like, no, he's a monopolist. Yeah.

Well, I mean, that's the reason he's fucking going around defending boeing yeah yeah but so uh epstein meets les wexner through a guy he meets through hoffenberg is the story and then another weird thing about this is that nobody nobody has made les wexner answer when exactly he met epstein so like according to this vanityity Fair article Epstein said it was 86 others said it was 89 it's 85 at the earliest 89 at the latest but no actually by 87 87 is when he becomes Wexner becomes a Epstein client and so it is something where like we mentioned Wexner assigned him the power fiduciary over all his private trusts and foundations. But the thing is,

in addition to all that, he gives him the Victoria's secret catalog, which is like a really fucked up part of the story where essentially like in 97, there's an allegation of Santa, Santa Monica woman says in 1997, Epstein groped her in a hotel after like bringing her there to audition for the Victoria's secret catalog.

She says she reported this to the police and it was ignored. Virginia Roberts, her affidavit says Victoria's secret models were on the flight logs at least at one time with Alan Dershowitz there. And there's like this New York post story about an Italian model named Elizabeth tie. It was just recently published. And she says she arrived in New York to do a modeling gig.

And her booker told her that Epstein was, quote, one of the most important people in modeling. He said, this man is in charge of Victoria's Secret and he's going to change your life. So she goes to Epstein's mansion and, you know, like shows her photos or whatever you do and Epstein gets down on the massage table and takes his clothes off and she's expecting some sort of model to come in but then he's like no come over start touching me and like this kind of stuff so she throws I think a vibrator at him

or something and runs out and she says as she was running out she saw Jeslyn Maxwell who told her she couldn't just leave this man is very important he's a friend of bill clinton's but but the point is essentially like uh and then new york post gets like some quotes from people involved in the modeling industry uh saying like epstein portrayed himself as the backdoor to get into the victoria's secret catalog um it was still significant cash you know it wasn't the fashion show but he says you know

the the catalog you you can make about five thousand a week modeling for campaigns on the catalog and so the point is like this was another way that he was able to get people directly through les wexner's company yeah no he had yeah he the the the the the the recruitment like mechanisms are pretty clear. The other one that just I found out about a few days ago was you're talking about Leon Black, this guy, who's the only other person who is directly tied to Epstein in terms of giving him money. There's only two named people who we can say definitively

through records provided him with money. One is Wexner and the other is Leon Black. Like $10 million to one of his charities and stuff. And he is a private equity guy with a very wide suite of holdings. One of which is Academy. Formerly Blackwater.

They just change their name every like six months. Which is the weirdest one. Yeah, XI. Just like, just the weirdest one. Yeah, X-I. Just make it stupid. Make it hard to pronounce. And Blackwater has been wildly implicated in human trafficking

in everywhere that they've been put. Accusations of literally just bringing people, young women, into the compounds and stuff and trapping them around afghanistan the middle east talking about the fucking syrian uh bathhouse yeah i mean like yeah like just from what we see from his public disclosures the people he's connected to the the uh entities he's connected to have the infrastructure to just be conveyor belts for victims, basically. Right, yeah, like for Leon Black, according to the New York Post,

in 2015, Black threw a lavish pool party at his Hampstead estate. A source there said Jeffrey Epstein was there, along with a number of women in bathing suits. And this is 2015. This is long after the allegations are very well known uh he says uh in the new york times it was reported that mr epstein was an inventor investor in environmental solutions worldwide worldwide a maker of emission control products uh with several people close to leon black including his four children um and then of course in 2015 epstein

has this charity that you that has been reported on by the Daily Beast. The only known cash it got was $10 million from Leon Black. So it's like, why is this private equity guy giving him $10 million? And then I guess just one other thing on that Victoria's Secret from the New York Post.

They quote some other agent who says the Victoria... Essentially quote some other agent who says the essentially this other agent says Gislin Maxwell was a fixture at Victoria's Secret events and they say quote they were always these really trashy shows full of rich men in the audience. Gislin acted as

the kind of Nazi guard telling everyone where they were sitting in the audience and that she had new quote pop tarts which is what she called the young models. So it's like everything indicates that Gislin Maxwell was a high society pimp for Epstein among other people. So you guys, obviously you've seen that picture that's floating around,

uh, the, the Getty image. Is that real of her at the Chelsea? No, no, no, that I know about this,

this other image that I saw some, uh, QAnon idiot post. And then wedding? No, no, no. That I know about. It's this other image that I saw some QAnon idiot post. And then I was like, okay, this is too on the nose. And then I looked for it. And it looks like it is an actual Getty image that you can buy from their catalog. And that is not... I posted it when I first saw it and because i was even at the time i was like this might not be real and uh and then of course somebody immediately was like oh yeah that's not a real getty image and that's photoshopped but then after that somebody

linked the actual getty image like the the link on the website where you could buy the print for 500 you guys know what i'm talking about i don, I don't know. What is this photo? Okay, so this was, there's this guy he's got a whole thing. He's a society photographer, Patrick McManson or something. And he's got tons of images on Getty of high society events.

And one of them was for a party that Gislyn Maxwell was at her home in 2007 in New York. This guy, Patrick McMullen. And it was commemorating somebody's stupid bistro or some bullshit. But this is the picture that was posted.

I don't know who the guy is, but that's is but that's oh what and where is she in that she's she's she's out there but she's that's not in the image it's hard to describe but that's like a guy with uh it's standing up below him like a mask it's a mask of what looks like the devil with a giant rope beard but then the real thing that fucked with me, and somebody insisted this was Photoshopped, and I was like, you know what it probably is. This is too on the nose. But then I saw the fucking Getty image clickable link. Right.

Nobody Photoshopped that. Look at the forehead of the skull. Oh, that's like, what, a pentagram? No, it's not. A pentagram would be kind of explicable. It's a ghost from Pac-Man? It's hard to see, but in the corner there. Is it one of those symbols from Twin Peaks?

What is that? It's a triangle. Like a Luminati triangle? No, like the fucking Nambla triangle. The whole thing that started pizza game. Right, right, yeah. It's hard to see because it's dark. But it's an actual, it looks exactly like that image from the FBI thing that they're always posting on 4chan.

Right, right. Of what the symbols are. The downfall of elite societies was inviting Getty Images photographers. But no, I saw that and I still don't know if it's real and I just keep thinking if I don't stop looking at this, I'm going to go insane. Because there's no way

to like, I'll never be able to know what I'm looking at. I'll never be able to know what's true. There's zero chance. I'm so far removed from it. I'm only getting this, I'm trying to grab, trying to drink from the fire hose of just internet fucking data. And I'm just going to be like putting pieces together as like I see them, which is just a recipe for schizophrenia.

Have you read the descriptions of the art in his New York mansion? Oh, I know about the painting of him in jail. Is there other? Oh, right. And the dentist chair in the bathroom. And like eyeball, just a wall of like eyeballs. Jesus Christ. Wait, the dentist chair in the bathroom?

Yeah, he's got like an old timey dentist chair in the bathroom. It looks like something from Saw. I saw the picture of it. It's like no one on earth would see that and be like, oh, that's a nice little touch. That's a cute. Did you get that at a fucking crate and barrel? He has a bunch of art that's not particularly highly valued given his wealth. Like the eyeball one, for instance.

That's just because he loves it. Yeah, I mean, fucking Tony Podesta's art collection is bizarre. Yeah. See, that's the other thing. It's like when the Pizzagate thing broke, I remember reading about the art and being like, yes, this is weird. But I could totally see this as just being like a pretentious guy. Sure. Like wanting to be edgy.

Yeah. You know, like specifically the thing of like the Dahmer body. Like he has this like coffee table that's in a model of a crime scene photo of one of jeffrey dahmer's victims and it's like that's gross but also you could totally see him at a party like explaining it right right cool yeah like this fucking old lame-o at a pizza party which they seem to have all the time all the time even after the pizzagate thing it's like how much do you fucking love that you're like hey remember that thing that was probably traumatic for us and somebody fucking brought a

gun and fired it at our friend's pizza restaurant let's continue to have pizza parties all the time they're still doing it they love pizza folks switch the fucking sandwich i don't give a shit meatball parm there's no reason to fuck you can afford it just have pasta it's a get together i mean fuck like well then it goes back to the temple thing either it's like we're committed to this it's part of our dark rituals or we're gonna have fun with it this is what they think we do we're gonna lean into it trying those license like wink winking at each other you know just oh we're just so we're just so fucking clever or it's a mixture of the two right yeah well yeah i'm sure they want to get like

information out there to distract people like we were talking about before this started epstein was a member of the trilateral commission which for a long time another like conspiracy theory you want to go on is like people think the trilateral commission did 9-11 and shit yeah you know so it's like he was in the trilateral commission council on foreign relations new york academy of sciences like these are the kind of like it comes back to just out of self-preservation he's getting in rooms with incredibly powerful people who are gonna know want to know what they're dealing with and his entire presentation of himself was fraudulent on its face. Oh yeah. And that never stopped him from getting into any of these

rooms. Which means that there had to have been at some level and high enough that you could just vouch for him to people lower than you, awareness of what his role was. So like with the theory that you posed earlier about like there's someone above him that's helping him move along. With him getting arrested now, is

his value like no longer useful or is it just he's run his course of what that career was supposed to be I think yeah I think it's that limited hangout thing of honestly I bet that his he probably became less of a he probably

lost his position as a actual organizer or whatever we're talking about after he got convicted because you know it's just too much but he didn't lose his social position because that's how you guarantee him not you know releasing the dead man switch

and releasing all the information and burning everybody right but I think like after that conviction you have this awareness of like well we can't use him anymore so whatever other networks are existing, we have to, you know, activate them, basically build up somebody to take his spot and then just be. And then at the same time, like I was saying, cut the connections, create plausible deniability around everybody who's too powerful to go down so that if because of you know like something like the Miami Herald or the voice lawsuit he

gets enough public scrutiny that eventually they just gotta go after him again just to get ahead you know to give to the public it's not gonna blow back on their face and that he's just like you know it's like it's like how they fucking remove a like they castrate a bull or something by just like tying a rubber band around the balls until they just lose the blood and then they just fall off.

Egg shaped penis again. Yeah, you just tie a rubber band around the egg shaped penis until it loses blood supply and falls off. And that's like, yeah, what's he going to say? At this point, he doesn't have the goods anymore to fuck anybody other than people who are expendable. Like Dershowitz. Dershowitz goes down. Nobody's going to fucking lose any sleep. Oh, he's so guilty now.

Oh, God. And that's the thing. It's like I have very little hope that anybody really like the Clintons. That would be amazing. But it's not going to happen. But nothing will happen. Dershowitz. I don't know.

Dershowitz might go down. I mean, we still have to see if Epstein even goes down. Right. You know? I mean, it's such, so public, you know? And they denied him bail. Yeah, but there's a lot of things. I mean, like, you know, like, if you can protect a fucking Eric Garner cop,

you can protect fucking Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. But he's also, like, one million times more implicated than and worse than Weinstein. And like Weinstein went down. Yeah. But I mean, Weinstein's just like a lecherous guy. I don't like it's not like this guy was already protected to like a like a horrific degree in fucking 2006. You know, I don't know. I mean, we'll see. You know, I don't know i mean we'll see you know i don't know if he goes down i like how massad operatives get like post-retirement sinecures like harassing women who are

rape victims kevin spacey didn't and that's clearly a case of like fucking witness intimidation or whatever oh yeah well that didn't see that's the other thing of thinking like i'm gonna go insane because out of nowhere his his his accuser just pleads the fifth. Out of nowhere. Yeah. Just like. Yeah. Like happened to that Gallagher guy.

Same. Basically the same thing with that seal. The maniac seal who killed the civilian in Iraq. The guy that one of the main witnesses who had immunity just on the stand says, oh, I killed a kid. It wasn't him. And he gets off. This guy who is incredibly high profile, a guy who was really loved by the higher ups and special forces.

And of course, Trump is literally publicly saying the pressure is obvious. It's a similar situation. And then I think about the people saying, remember that video that Spacey made? Yeah. That insane. What is he thinking? And at the time it got written off as, yeah, this is just a maniac actor who's like totally narcissistic and doesn't realize how this looks.

But people say, no, he was like warning, warning them, the elite, that he can't go down. Yeah. And then his accuser just says, I know I'm not going to testify. You know what blew my mind doing research for this? As of a day ago, the guy making the Jeffrey Epstein documentary decided not to make it anymore because he said it was, quote, too distasteful. And this is like the documentary of the century.

And he's just right in the middle of all this shit backing out. It's like, what the fuck did he find out? That's so weird. And as part of that, the Spacey thing, someone pointed out, and this is another thing, I might as well just drill a hole in my head like the guy in Pine, is that there's a mug that Spacey's drinking from in that. And it's a mug with, I think, the signature of Queen Elizabeth on it. Really? It's like a commemorative mug for some fucking jubilee or something.

And, of course, you know, one of the top people implicated in that Epstein network that he was involved with was Prince Andrew. And it's like, I mean, it's like, that sounds dumb, but then he just gets off. Right. Out of nowhere. Yeah. Fuck. There are like 30 different commemorative or heirloom shit in the back of him. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. As he made the video. Yeah. Before we wrap up here, I did want to mention one more thing about Les Wexner. Just something I found. And if you're interested in Les Wexner, I would recommend you look at some of the stuff by this journalist, Bob Fitrakis. He was an independent Columbus, Ohio journalist. He wrote for this

paper Columbus alive. But the point is, um, he explored this confidential police report that essentially accused Les Wexner of being mobbed up at least in the eighties or associated with the mob. And the story is that Arthur Shapiro was a lawyer, shot twice in the head in 1985, killed, mob-style killing. And just according to this confidential police report written in about 1991, at the time he was part of a Columbus law firm that represented the Limited, which is, of course, Les Wexner's brand, the Limited, now L Brands, owns Victoria's Secret. But so he was working the Les Wexner account. And it just so happens that

he was the subject of an IRS investigation and his death occurred one day prior to his appearance before a grand jury in the IRS case and so the reason that people kind of link Les Wexner to the mob is that because there are these two people a guy named Walsh a Youngstown real estate developer, Edward D. Bartolo, and a trucker named Walsh were both connected, according to the report, to the Pittsburgh family, the Genovese La Roca crime family. And so it was essentially where, like, according to one thing, this journalist found Francis J. Walsh is the guy's name. He owned the Walsh trucking company and around the time of the murder according to an interview that he found walsh did in excess of 90 of the limited trucking business during that time and uh then you know of course this other guy um les wexner was in some various uh debartolo he was in a couple um takeover bids in like 84 and 86.

He was involved in like multi-billion dollar takeover bids. They tried to take over Neiman Marcus at one point. So it's like clearly Wexner at least knows these two mobbed up guys. I don't know if he actually murdered that lawyer, but it's just something to be aware of where, and this gets like no press whatsoever, but we'll see if maybe the Epstein connection has people look into this a little more.

Well, I mean, yeah, if Wexner is just able to just hang out like in his dialysis tent or whatever the fuck he's in at this point, he's pretty old, and not get dragged in here, then you know that, yeah, there's no chance of anything greater because he's the public exhibit one of anybody who would be involved. This is the mug that he was drinking out of, that Spacey was drinking out of. And I'll read you guys the

quote. It's a commemorative mug and it's got the clown jewels on it. Westminster Abbey, it's commemorating her coronation, I think. Westminster Abbey, 2nd June

1953 and it has a nice gold leaf calligraphy quote from Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II quote throughout all my life and with all my heart I shall strive to be worthy of your trust Jesus Christ that's insane yeah it is something where like i think we were talking about this

before we started recording where essentially like the matt you've talked about this and i know chomsky has talked about this too where conspiracy theory thinking the idea is that people understand inherently that their life is bad but they don't understand the mechanisms through which you know private equity or whatever else destroys union companies. So you essentially, instead of understanding this, you say, oh, they're all pedophiles. That's why the elite are bad. And then you just start running into this shit

where more and more evidence comes out that, am I insane? Is this real? Am I just going down the rabbit hole? See, the thing is, is my life isn't bad. And it's like, to the extent that I even give a shit is like, if you were like, yeah, Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz, all of them are in a weird pedophile cult together. I'd be like, damn. I wouldn't fucking really give a shit beyond that.

I'd just be like, I don't know. That's weird that that's happening. Right. You know? And like, I wouldn't even be like like there should be a call for just like the country like things are already fucked up like the iraq war is fucked up yeah there's so many things that are already fucked up that like a weird pedophile cult on top of it wouldn't bother me any more than i've already like had to make peace with the fact that, yeah,

I'm sort of complicit in the shitty system. Like in 08, the entire economy was recapitalized on the back of fucking taxpayers to make whole the people who destroyed it. In front of everyone. Yeah. Everyone said, this sucks. We don't want to do this. Yeah.

And all the politicians are like, yeah, this is bullshit, huh? Well, we got to do it. And it's like, yeah yeah i don't want that to happen it's like well good luck motherfucker who are you gonna vote for who doesn't want to do climate change is the best example it's like we're all just gonna die china is like fucking like pedal to the metal baby fucking be legend you know and it's like we're all just gonna burn to death in 50 years and it's like all right whatever yeah you know we'll see what comes out on Switch I think the explanatory model is

when Nick and I were talking before the show about yeah there are some guys who like Epstein are like you know what my real heart is in pedophilia that's my whole like if I could make it like they got pedophile when they took the career aptitude test in high school

and he just made good you know he was the best pedophile and he got to do his. You know what? I have not a day of it has felt like work. But for a lot of these guys at the top, it's like a thing you've got to do to just stay in the club. It's like, oh, God, I got to fuck a kid again. God damn it. I just want to go watch the ballgame. It's like an Eastern Promises when the gay brother makes or the gay son makes him uh yeah yeah it's like yeah like this is how at the very very top like

these bonds are sealed and you just have to have this mutual implication this mutual sense of each other's limits or lack thereof uh mutual a sense that nobody is is is outside this is the way like it's it's it's the way concentrated power operates throughout the entire spectrum of power down to precincts and dirty cops. The guy who won't take money is a problem. I didn't know you get wet, Jake. It's training day.

Training to be a pedophile. One other thing I want to mention so wait that uh that article that came out where those bmw billionaire heirs said that our life is actually much harder than you think it is because they have to yeah they have to do all that stuff i don't i gotta think of like a fucking bugatti when i they gotta come up with the new bmw so we didn't mention this yet, but essentially, like, well,

Epstein was supposedly in jail. He was visited by women and all the records disappeared, you know, and now the Palm Beach PD is like supposedly investigating themselves about this. But the sheriff who ordered

his work release is still in charge and overseeing the investigation. The work release where he was just getting women? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

The whole time. He was like Escobar killing somebody in jail. Yeah. Totally unaccountable. It was like 130,000s disappeared and stuff. Yeah. Corruption is so funny, too, because the Smollett thing is hilarious because it's like how bad woke people are at being corrupt.

Right. Just how bad that fucking DA fucked up sneakily letting her friend off. Right. So you think about like how good pedophiles are in, in, in contrast to that. I mean, even like the- Yeah, they're born into it. Yeah. The low level pedophiles are like wife, kids, you know, fucking $80,000 a year job. Right.

You know, white picket fence, no one will know. And they get away with it. So imagine if you're like an elite pedophile. Like that's how you go three decades, nobody finding out. But so CNBC actually looked at the jail records that do exist, and they found another Bill Clinton connection.

This guy Arnold Paul Prosperi visited Epstein in prison more than at least 20 times. He was an attorney who became friends with Clinton at Georgetown University, and he later became a fundraiser for bill clinton and bill clinton uh he uh commuted uh this bill clinton commuted his sentence for filing false tax returns on his last day in the white house a little mark rich action there right so it's just something where it's like this guy who's probably conceivably linked to Bill Clinton visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in jail. And, you know, we'll see what else comes out.

Yeah, it's like that scene in Boogie Nights when Jack goes to visit the colonel. Only it's just they're all having fun. Imagine just being his cellmate. Like, well, I'm in here for siphoning gas. Out of a police cruiser. How about you? I really don't want to say. I like to imagine he sounds like Christopher Lambert.

He was on the plane. That drove me insane. Okay, so. Did you know he's blind? Yeah, we talked about the blindness. It's just hilarious. Like, that guy, he has to be, have something on someone because how did he become an actor?

Just no talent, blind man, who can't speak English. Can't speak English. Just like Pee Wee Herman body. Yeah. Fucking action star. He had to have had tapes on people. Yeah, yeah.

We're talking one more about brain, about the brain, you know. Hole. The brain hole worm thing is so you guys i was listening to the episode where you just brilliantly out of thin air conjured a narrative of jimmy buffett yeah right which after after the fact we googled jimmy buffett and of course he's implicated he's like i'm listening to this and it's like it starts off as a joke it's very funny but then you read the lyrics to Cheeseburger in Paradise.

And you're like, sacrifice? It's a fucking burger. What are you talking about? And then it's like, well, that's still, it's like a little funny, but it's a little weird. And then, yo, no, he's in there. It's like, all right, yeah, I'm just going to dip my brain in fucking battery. Yeah, right. Yeah.

No, it's very easy to go down that road. And then, yeah, you know, fucking eyes wide wide shut man yeah it's all right there yeah yeah like so courtney love has her name circled in epstein's black book and her boyfriend and money manager around the time was a guy named dano guillochato or something uh but the dana but the important thing is he was one of the investors in Digital Entertainment Network, which is, of course, Bryan Singer's rape children fake company. So it's like, I don't know. There's just so many weird connections that you could go absolutely insane trying to follow all of this.

That's why she had Kurt killed. He was going to blow the whistle. Yeah. I'm just imagining some Israeli guy in Seattle like, I've got to kill Kurt. The coffee's pretty good. I was looking forward to the fourth album, but... But I guess just to wrap it out here,

so supposedly Gislyn Maxwell, her lawyers say that she's living in London, but she doesn't have a permanent address. So she's clearly trying to avoid Interpol warrants at the moment. But her lawyers filed some sort of thing to those 2,000 pages of the Virginia Roberts documents where they accuse Maxwell as well as other people like Dershowitz. The Second Appeals Court has ruled them to be unsealed, thanks to the hard work of Mike Cernovich. And the point here was, essentially, she's filed, as of last week, to have the full panel rehear it.

There's supposed to be some hearing, I think, Wednesday, July 25th, which it might come out then, it might come out after then, but within the next couple weeks, conceivably, these 2,000 pages are going to come out, and we just have to speculate who might be in it. And I guess just to Nick and Matt, if you have any predictions or final thoughts on things we might not have covered here.

Let's see, John Voight. Ronald McDonald. It's easier to pick people you don't think are going to be in it. Yeah, right, right. Mark Ruffalo is probably fine. Yeah. Oh, God, that would be disappointing. Tom Hanks is a pedophile for sure.

No, anyone in the Amblin arc, anybody who's been in more than one Spielberg movie, I think you could just assume. Yeah. What if the documents come out? Spike Jones and Charlie Kaufman. I'll tell you who 100% not Michael Bay. Michael Bay, of course. Zero chance. Well, Michael Bay. Michael Bay, of course. Zero. Zero chance.

Michael Bay is part of that. I feel like Bruckheimer, Simpson, and Bay are part of that crew of guys that are just stupid. Yeah. Their idea of becoming a powerful guy in Hollywood is like making a hot girl wash a car. Right. Exactly. That's it.

And then you're like, no, but we could go in the next room and there's a bunch of kids and Rob's like, what? Yeah. That's fucking weird, dude. He's fucking Megan Fox in a bikini. What the fuck do you want? I think Tony Scott is legitimately the only guy to actually kill himself in Hollywood. Yeah.

Because he's like, all of my friends are dumb as shit. I'll have all my garbage movies. I can't do it again. I can't do it again. I can't do it. I was thinking it would be good if the 2,000 pages come out and Bernie's fundraising disadvantage totally disappears overnight. Oh, yeah. Did you see that article where it was Kamala Harris? What was it?

She slammed the law firm that defended Epstein and then immediately after that took money from it. Yeah, no, she took money from the law firm that negotiated the plea deal. Her defense was like, it wasn't the same lawyers. That's so funny. Oh, and then from the Vanity Fair, a few years ago, Epstein was a guest at a dinner in Palo Alto hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman.

At the dinner, Elon Musk introduced him to Mark Zuckerberg. And of course, there's the picture of Gislin Maxwell with Elon Musk, with Lloyd Blankfein in 2013, with Mayor Bloomberg. There's no concern here.

Elon Musk just revealed that he made some sort of Jeffrey Dahmer machine for the human brain. Neuralink. Just drilling holes in people's skull. There's nothing to be concerned with there. I love when he does this shit and he's like, I need volunteers now. Like, that's how he's introducing it to people. Well, that's the thing about

him is that he's got this army of people who have deluded themselves into thinking that he's like fucking, you know, he's like Thomas Edison times... That's the crazy... Elon Musk has been able to pull the trick that all the tech guys did in the fucking 70s and 80s and then really ramped up in the 90s

where it's like these guys are the smart kid geniuses that are going to save fucking capitalism because computers can't make pollution. And that's the only problem with business is pollution. Meanwhile, he makes rockets. The shittiest type of engine there is. What if we

dealt with public transportation issues by just drilling an endless series of tunnels to the center of the earth for individual cars to go down uh but yeah uh but because of these people who have deluded themselves anything that he would not need to uh get kids or anything like they would do it they would be like the fucking children's crusade they'd just be like coming in in an army to be like yes drill holes in my head turn me into

a fuck puppet as long as you as long as i up on Mars, I don't care what you do. All right. Well, is there anything we didn't get to here? I mean, there's tons. There's a lot. I don't want to lose my mind. Yeah, it really is. The limits of this whole operation and the extent of it

challenge your like conscious understanding of the world around you to a degree that it's like trying to like you know yeah comprehend like a metaphysical question about like the nature of existence itself so it's like you can't even really go that far with it you're like oh i guess yeah everyone's involved and i'll never know exactly why or how we got here. Or, you know, I don't know. Yeah, it'll just put you in the fucking hospital. Well, like, you were talking about that Michael Jackson documentary.

And, like, you know, some of Michael Jackson's employees would, like, move the parents of the children being abused when they went on tour. They would move them to farther away hotel rooms. Yeah. So it's like you have all these, like like little functionaries in an operation like this. Yeah. And you just imagine how many people who are even like not directly abusing kids just. My red pill was Subway Jared. I've said it before, but it's like the amount of people that had to have been protecting

that, that fucking. Right. That guy who is, does not come from, he was famous by accident. He was a big fat guy that had to tell the sandwich company. He has no friends in his life to be like, good job. He's like, I guess I'll write a letter to Subway to let them know I'm not a fat piece of shit anymore. And they're like, we'll put you

in a couple commercials because we feel bad for you. He rises to the top ranks of Subway and then now people have to protect this fat pedophile. And it's like, why? He's not an elite. He has no connection to anything. He's just the fucking subway guy.

And you could replace him in a second. And honestly, they should have years ago. It's a shitty ad campaign. No one remembers that he was fat. It's just some fucking weird dork. That's like, these sandwiches are pretty good. There's zero fucking reason to have him around. And for years, people

are just like protecting him. Yeah. They were telling people every subway he would go to, they'd be like, yeah, he was trying to grab the asses of all of our underage. And they would be like, yeah, don't worry about it. He's getting help. These executives are like, we can't let we cannot lose Subway Jared.

Now imagine that's the fucking king of some shitty nation. It's like the Sultan of Br. Now imagine that's the fucking king of some shitty nation. It's like the Sultan of Brunei. It's the fucking Prince of Wales. That's why they're fighting universal healthcare. It's because all those functionaries just have amazing health plans. And they lose that.

It's like, yeah, if we can't dangle dental over people's heads we're not going to shuttle our sex slaves around the country. But I guess obviously we'll see what happens with these 2000 pages. Supposedly maybe they'll come out next week. Maybe the week after we'll see who, if anybody's implicated in them,

we'll see what happens with the Epstein trial. I'm sure you can keep track of what Matt and Nick say on Matt on Chapo Trap House, Nick on Comptown, two of my absolute favorite people to listen to. Anything else to advertise or say while you're here? Yeah, I'm selling shirts. This is my business now. I'm selling shirts out of the back of the truck.

It's com.town. I'm going to be parachuting into Interlaken to find Epstein's private chalet that he was keeping there for many years apparently so he could play piano. Speaking of things we didn't get into. Oh yeah, he's a piano player. Well, he needed that temple. It's just fucking bullshit.

Just be like, I'm sorry. Pizzagate is real. You were right. I'm sorry. I love the pretension of of this guy like he's he's got the career he's he's he's doing what he loves being the pedophile man uh but he's also got to pretend to be a genius he's got to pretend to be a piano prodigy yeah i'm just imagining he's at one of these parties everybody's getting ready to go into the back room they've got the adrenochrome appetizers. And then he just sits down at this $50,000 piano to serenade them.

And he just plays chopsticks. And they're just nodding their head like, very good, Jeff. Right. Yeah. Oh, well, he is a classically trained pianist. And it's like, who would you say is the best living pianist right now? I don't know. It is Martha Agarich Argentina.

All right. So let's see. Where does she fucking practice piano? She's one of the best. Right, right. The best in the fucking world. Does she have an island she goes to? And even there, she has to go to the southernmost point

to go into a weird fucking Egyptian temple. Maybe it was like the Eyes Wide Shut thing where they picked Epstein because they needed a piano player who wouldn't look out behind the blindfold and tell Tom Cruise where the party is. But yeah, I guess any other questions for our guests? Thank you both so much so funny so interesting you know i mean we'll see what what happens but we will this shit's making me crazy

yeah oh i did i emailed chomsky just to see what he what he thought please let me know when he gets back to you if he does because i'd be very interested so i did email professor chomsky with the recent arrest of jeffrey epstein and media reports suggesting a wide-ranging conspiracy, do you personally believe that there are elite networks of pedophiles at the highest level of government and business in this country? Thank you for all your work. So I'll let you know if he thinks it's real or not. Yeah, please let me know. What if he just stridently denies it?

I would be so disappointed. That would be really upsetting. If Chomsky said no, and then you just had to, like, jettison all this stuff from your mind. Well, never mind. Well, I don't know. What do you jettison?

I guess I'll get rid of... I guess I get really into daily fantasy now. I guess I can shake hands with Elon Musk again. He seems like a trustworthy character. Did you see that with Andy is it Nyo? Oh, the guy who got punched? He did Rogan and he's like

affecting Elon Musk's accent. He's like, I want to have as good of an interview as Elon Musk did. I guess I'll just talk like him. That's the brain hemorrhage. Yeah, he's like, yeah, they concussed my brawn. My brawn was a hemorrhage.

Right. That's why I talk like this now. It really had a negative effect on my brawn. And he's from Portland, Oregon. He sounds like us. He's from the Pacific Northwest. He doesn't have any fucking accent.

Just being weird. All right. Nick Mullen from Comptown. Matt Chrisman from Chapo Trap House. Thank you both for being here. And with that, this has been Grub Stickers. I'm Yogi Paiwal. Steve Jeffers.

Andy Palmer. I'm Sean McCarthy. Thanks for listening. And thanks to our guests. This was a lot of fun. And if you like us, check us out. Patreon Grub Stickers. Bye.

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