Grubstakers - [Patreon Unlock] Episode 138: What Happened in Iowa?

Episode Date: February 8, 2020

By popular demand we've unlocked our recent episode running down what just occurred in the Iowa Caucuses. After we recorded this episode DNC chair Tom Perez immediately followed the news that Bernie Sanders was victorious in Iowa by announcing that there would be a recount. As we've always said this is all just a big misunderstanding and there is no bias at work here. New Hampshire votes February 11th. You know what to do: https://berniesanders.com/

Greetings thrill seekers and music lovers from all across the fruited plain. Behind the golden EIB microphone with dark mass on my x-ray on loan from God, it is I, Rush Limbaugh, hosting the Rush Limbaugh Show, the number one radio show hosted by a person about to become a parking lot. My friends, I join you even balder than usual today. Democrat Party and disarray, that is our story in Iowa. The Iowa Democrat Party is being more tight-lipped than my ex-wives

because of those NDAs I made them sign. The Iowa caucus will be called the Rush Limbaugh caucus because it is not long for this world. Fidel Castro was playing 12-dimensional chess when he made those cigars so good, my friends, because I've got a tumor in my lung so powerful

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Yogi Paywall. Steve Jeffries. And so, well, we wanted to talk today about what we usually do, but, you know, this Iowa caucus stuff has us all fucked up. Well, plus the glowing review we got from Rush Limbaugh. I mean, I can't believe he gave us the number one podcast about billionaires. The fact that anybody who takes the time to spend with us is appreciated. But somebody who only has three weeks to live to take the time to record a message for the Grubstakers podcast.

Broadcasting legend. Say what you will about him, good or bad. I got to say, people know his voice. Iowa has stage four democracy cancer i was thinking so if bernie wins he should award the presidential medal of freedom to russia's tumor like just reassign like i'm not sure if you would reassign it or just give another one but like that way you could put like two medals on his gravestone certainly and you say one's for him and then one's for the tumor that killed him.

I mean, you got to award the killer that took him out. But yeah, no, I mean, it is. I guess if you are a listener of a regular leftist podcast, maybe what we cover today will be, I don't know, repetitive for what everyone's talking about. But this is actually a form of solidarity. We're keeping the attention on the iowa democratic party and uh and you know if you don't like it we'll be back with a regular episode next week but what i wanted to talk about is just the fact that we're recording this february 5th 2020 the iowa caucuses uh were on february 3rd 2020 and uh at the time we were recording this we have 86 percent of the results hey oh all right uh which getting there

getting there like i was talking about it uh in the discord it seems like what they're gonna do is actually friday news dump the actual results like just give us 10 more percent every day and just like you know they go through the 10 in every permutation to make Pete Buttigieg the winner on each day until Friday afternoon news dump, Bernie wins. My friends, the liberal media is out again. They're trying to find the counties where Buttigieg can actually win to make it look competitive and release them first. But, you know, it is something where people have have talked about this iowa it doesn't so much matter as much as it matters for the news cycle and this is what they have done they have thrown a wrench into the news cycle of bernie sanders being the fucking back-to-back winner of iowa

new hampshire because if bernie had just like no contest you know iowa he wins and then tuesday of course uh february 11th is the new hampshire primary and then he wins first night no contest you know iowa he wins and then tuesday of course uh february 11th is the new hampshire primary and then he wins first night no contest no big scandal if that's the new story i mean he walks to the nomination from there like he either finishes first or second in south carolina he cleans up in nevada he cleans up in california it's fucking over my money is every one of these caucuses is gonna gonna have some sort of scandal that just magically comes up not enough people been been uh cracking heads if you know what i mean when it comes to this whole shadow scandal well like and so people have pointed out you know maybe bad sign for bernie or not that the iowa caucus primary turnout was lower than it was in

2008 for obama but you know another thing they managed to do on much higher turnout is actually report the results on time. Like, yeah, funny how that changed. I mean, the Obama, it was a record. So, to compare yourself to the historical record and be like, oh, damn it. One of the caucus locations, they had

700 between Obama and Hillary, and they expected 1,400 this year, and the number was like 850 so it uh yeah they vastly overestimated the amount of people that were going to come out of the sport also when obama was running it was there were some structural reasons why it was higher so it was during a college break so people could actually go go to their precincts a lot more easily than they would have because school's in session this time. That makes sense. Yeah.

And then Obama started governing and it was like, fuck you all for having hope. People are like, yeah, people aren't as inspired as they were for Obama. Yeah, I wonder why after eight years of obama less people showed up to fucking waste their time caucusing uh after the last time a guy who ran entirely on change sure and nothing fucking changed more like short change yeah i mean i guess medicaid got expanded and that was cool but that was about it compared to everything we were promised i've actually had a fantasy of just flying into iowa and like along with like a group of Sunrise Movement kids just storming the state Iowa Democratic Party headquarters

and finding the real results. They're just laying around somewhere. I want that movie. Me and my team of operators. Going into the Cornhuskers. 20 good men and women. It's like that Netflix movie with Ben Affleck what the town no what was that one called

Triple Frontier it was so forgettable that I forgot the name of it I watched it I was like well that was forgettable it wasn't terrible but my friend also pointed out to me my friend is a former officer or he deployed to Afghanistan he's, but my friend also pointed out to me, my friend is a former officer, or he deployed to Afghanistan. He's a smart guy.

But he pointed out, well, I'm bringing it up because the story is these special operators, former like Delta Force Navy SEALs, they go and rob this drug lord to make one big score. And the opening part of the movie is all these former special ops guys are like having trouble paying the bills and getting by. And he was like, they can all just do private security for a billionaire they can make half a million dollars a year just like sitting in the car with some like 90 year old whose dad made weapons for the nazis yeah i mean they're all qualified to do a job where they could die at any minute for a boatload of money but some of them have this weird thing called families they want to see at the end of the fucking be a consultant to zay right yeah whatever it's called now yeah i forget that oh yeah yeah they've changed black water to something else don't say it was academy for a second academy oh yeah academy with an eye right yeah but it is just like say you're a special ops guy and you're gonna like go

break into like a cartel drug lord's house and kill a bunch of people you could just sit in a fucking car as it goes from point a to point b and make just as much money for no work whatsoever and no danger i mean yeah but like you know i think that a person that's post-military i mean okay sean's right that you can make that much money just sitting in a car but it's very tough in our position to think of that human being just sitting in a car when they got

PTSD from just being in a car before they've almost died several times in their life you're mad that we're doing the same Iowa caucus episode as every other leftist podcast well did they have triple frontier discussion? I don't think they had any discussion about the relative realism of the Netflix movie,

triple frontier. Um, but you know, so again, just, uh, as of the time we're recording this, we have 86% tomorrow,

uh, you know, tomorrow, Thursday, Iowa caucuses are buffering, you know, they're coming in slow, but they're coming.

It's like when you were a kid and you were downloading porn on your 56K and you just had to turn the monitor on and off as your mom entered or left the room. Estimated time, like 23 days. Right. Exactly. It's going to be here, but it's going to take some time. But when it's here, boy, it's either going some time but when it's here boy it's either gonna be very very satisfying or exceedingly

disappointing or it's gonna be what you wanted but with like Russian subtitles let's see we will get them in 2024 as Trump has just won his third term but yeah so as of the time we're recording this at 86% the count that I have here is that by popular vote, Bernie Sanders has 26.1% of the popular vote.

Pete Buttigieg is in second, 25.5% of the popular vote. Elizabeth Warren, will probably end up getting the same number of actual delegates from the state, Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders. So one big question is they've got these satellite caucuses. Right. And they haven't even counted any of that. Oh, really? Yeah. The DirecTV caucuses they haven't looked into? These are set up for people who

they can't be near where their normal precinct would be, I think. Why haven't they counted any of that? I don't know. Probably because the two that they started counting, and then there were all those problems,

it was like Bernie. It was Bernie Central. How long does it take to count? How many votes are there total? Do we know how many from previous years that votes came in total? I mean, I know that they're different from year to year, but at some point, they've got to be... The turnout. Just how many physical votes needed to be counted?

Well, 160,000 or so. Yeah, something like that. All right, that could take a couple of days. I'll give them that. Well, 160,000 or so. Yeah, something like that. All right, that could take a couple of days. I'll give them that. No, I don't. It should be the same day. It should be, yeah. But I can see it taking a couple of days.

It shouldn't be. Well, maybe to certify it, but... Yeah. Yeah, with 86% reporting, it's 153,453 votes. So they're going over it by hand? That's one of the things that's been so... They have paper votes this time. Okay, gotcha.

Like in the first round, you write down your preference. Right. And then you do that for the second time too. So they have those. I think we can all agree though, this is just another bungled CIA coup. He had another one on the track record.

But it is, I mean, like, you know, and we've gone through, you've heard this gone through before, but it's worth repeating. Like, the first time in 76 years, they spiked the final Des Moines, Iowa poll. Des Moines? Des Moines, goddammit. I was going to get through a whole episode. Des Moines. Leave it I was gonna get through a whole episode Des Moines leave it yeah oh it's staying in it's like the entire theme of the show Mad Men is about how it's impossible for people to change and every week I come in here and I'm like this is when I'm gonna get it sure no mistakes why would you just say words the way that they're pronounced?

Why would you do that? Okay, no. First of all, that's bullshit. So, yeah, this poll that's supposedly been, you know, historically the most accurate poll before Iowa has been reported for 76 years consecutively as the final poll before the Iowa caucus. For the first time in 76 years, they spike it because Bernie Sanders is ahead.

CNN and the Des Moines Register, they come together and they say, we're not releasing this because apparently... Des Moines? Yeah, Des Moines. Des Moines. There's no ass, buddy. Des Moines.

CNN and the Des Moines register they come together and they say we're not releasing this because Pete Buttigieg called us because apparently one Pete Buttigieg supporter

said they mispronounced his name or spelled his name wrong or some bullshit like that and it was like a case of one person who was contacted and they spiked the entire poll

and of course that poll showed Bernie Sanders on top something like things like that every single statewide poll for anything involves some manner of snafu like that.

Sure. And pollsters, the good ones, they're ready for that. So they oversample to make up for the possibility that something like this might happen. Gotcha. With like one person doing a phone interview or something. So to think that one of the most competent pollsters out there wouldn't have a plan for this is like crazy.

It doesn't make any sense. There's so many variables to this. And I'm very frustrated although i will say that for the first time in my life i found myself sympathizing and agreeing with just a straight up bigot against gay people i don't know if you saw that video of that woman who was like i say a lot of sensible things no but she was like pete's gay and the person was like yeah it's common knowledge she's like i didn't know that well can i change my vote and the person's like i mean we can't you can talk to somebody and then she's like listen i know you're a good christian woman and the person's like thank you i i am and she's like i'm a good christian woman

as well and i just want you to and then here's the thing it's a pete budaj uh fucking uh precinct captain or whatever being like you're a good christian woman don't change your vote which boy that's very funny to be like. Our religions are the same, so you should do the right thing, which is vote for the person we both technically agree with. And I love that the other person's like, the Bible says a man and a man shouldn't lay. So how can you be? And in my head I was like, I've never been like, fuck gay people.

But in this moment I'm like, lady, I love your bigotry. This might be like the one time in which I defend pete budaj sure yeah you hate that lady that was like i don't want her to change it just because she learned he was gay that is like a wider point though like i think the left should learn to just take the w when people make the right decision for the complete wrong reasons like if she for some reason went over to bernie sanders or at least she fucking screwed over the rat. I think she went to Klobuchar. I think she had a Klobuchar shirt.

Well, that's better than Buttigieg. Jeffries, I'm not saying I like that bigotry exists that this person wanted to change her vote. You'll take it. But in my head, part of me was like, I hope that shit got changed. Yogi gets more homophobic as his beard grows longer. It's like Samson, but for bigotry.

But so, I mean, it's something where the idea of polls is that they're supposed to reflect public opinion, but they do also lead to public opinion. If you see going into the Iowa caucus that Bernie Sanders is number one and Pete Buttigieg is in third, Elizabeth Warren in second. At least that's the way it was when the polling went out. You know, I mean, you might be liable to assume that Bernie Sanders is the front runner. This creates a lot of narrative in the media reporting and in just the way that people interpret these events. So hiding that poll that has historically been known as the most accurate is a way to skew the results against Bernie Sanders, 100%. I don't know, man. I i mean as much as i i have felt that way for the last handful of days i think your small brain minding it i think the big brain goes cia and fbi loves donald trump and they want the entire democratic party to look like

fucking ingrates and fucking idiots and so they're doing this shit to like back in to be like none of these candidates are good and trump Trump is the only way. Because, I mean, listen, I don't think that the CIA and FBI want more wars to happen. But I'm pretty sure that the United States, when they have a president that's moderately competent, is handcuffs to the world's elite in terms of what they can get away with. But with Trump at the helm, them handcuffs are off, motherfucker, and they can do whatever the fuck they want. And so as much as I think that this is certainly a slight to Sanders and that Sanders is a primary target,

I think just cutting down the DNC is the biggest thing. Well, I mean, there's a bunch of different factors interacting. And though I do want to make the point, I've said it elsewhere, that if Trump was ever as much of a threat to the Republican National Committee as Bernie is to the Democratic National Committee, they would have tried something similar. Well, sure. The RNC is in agreement with Trump. Right.

I mean, you know. Even though he was initially like the anti-establishment candidate. Because Trump. Whereas like Sanders is never going to see i.d.i with like pelosi oh yeah or did the nc well trump never had his own party infrastructure like you know they thought he was like very uncouth and they thought he was kind of embarrassing and you know rubio talked about how he had a small dick like that was their attack line but at the end of the day he had no party infrastructure. He just inherited the RNC.

So it's like everybody gets to keep their job except for the pundits who opposed him, who either got in line or just got completely exiled from the Republican Party. Dude, he wants to golf and fucking dick around and is basically the worst version of himself ever because he's being monitored at all times. You think the gop looks at that and goes oh man this kind of shitty no they can get away with whatever the fuck they want right now trump's not looking at mcconnell or any of the other fucks and going you can't do shit right now they got no adult supervision they had eight years of obama breathing over their neck

like a fucking creep and now trump's in there fucking taking naps and shit oh yeah no absolutely you know i mean so it's like i think that they're uh because i do think that the the the linear argument against what's going on in iowa caucus right now is that this is a direct result of bernie sanders uh rise in popularity and the fact that it does feel as if most of the country has unified against him in a way that didn't happen in 2016 or if it did was more suppressed than it is currently but the fact that all of these figures that are somehow slowing down the caucus things are not necessarily related at all to the biggest boogeyman in this whole goddamn thing the fucking u.s government and trump itself come on dog there's gotta be some

shady ass shit going on well it does speak to how it does speak to the idea that the DNC wants, would prefer Trump over Sanders as president. Yeah, I think so. So in that way, there might be a connection. I'm not saying that they want Pete over Sanders and that's what they're going for, but that seems so far-fetched. Oh, Trump over Sanders.

No, I know. I'm saying that what it seems like right now is buddha judge campaigns pulling some strings and making it so that he looks ahead of sanders and it's a slight on sanders but i think what steven said is 100 correct they'll go with trump over sanders oh absolutely yeah i don't think that's even in dispute on like anybody who follows this shit is that you know because when we talk about trump doesn't have an infrastructure so he just inherits the rnc everyone gets to keep their jobs and yogi's exactly right he's not been doing shit for four years he's like now that he's running for re-election again he's starting to make it look like he's doing shit where he's like i will uh pass it we're gonna

pass an infrastructure bill which i had like two years with the republican congress i didn't pass any fucking infrastructure bill because i don't give a shit. You know, I just let Mitch McConnell write a tax law that gave, you know, handouts to Wall Street, handouts to all the fucking tech companies that I supposedly hate. He took care of, like, a few of the low-hanging fruit items on the Republican wish list, which is a huge tax cut, mainly.

Yeah. He could sign an executive order importing cheap prescription drugs. He doesn't do that because, like, A, nobody tells him to do that, yeah he could import he could sign an executive order importing cheap prescription drugs he doesn't do that because like a nobody tells him to do that but b he just doesn't fucking care right um but you know it is just i mean i do kind of expect respect the con man grift because it is the perfect it is exactly how like the perfect con man operates is like you sell them a product and then you don't do shit and then when it starts

breaking and it's like sounds like they might try to get a refund uh that's when you're like no man this is like this is perfect here's how we're gonna fix it you know don't get your money back do not go to the better business bureau right right you know so this is like he's only gonna govern or attempt to govern to his base in the first and fourth years. And then he's just done. Trump certainly is a con man and a scoundrel. But at his core, just like his supporters, he's a coward. And once the GOP figured that out, which I think Mitch McConnell and that crew definitely looked at him and went,

we can control this guy like a puppet. This guy is a yes man and an idiot. So we shouldn't look at him like we've got to get him out because he's not one of us. We should look at him like we should use to get him out because he's not one of us. We should look at him like we should use him as the pawn that we know he is. Yeah, if you just suck his dick, you have infinite power within his administration. In the case of Nikki Haley, literally. But as long as you just verbally fillet him, you can do whatever you want within his administration. Why would you attack that proud, actual East Indian woman that whitewashed her entire uh origin story interesting how nikki

haley more indian than elizabeth warren that's why that's why it's good to have uh diversity on the podcast because that's an angle of attack against nikki haley that no white person would ever bring up if we didn't have yogi in the room nobody would be hating her for being a fake indian i'm listen i don't Listen, a lot of people give shit on me about how I sound, how I look and stuff, but you've never seen me roll up into a room and be like, hey guys, I'm Yolanda Suarez.

I'm fucking Hispanic now. That's not happening. You know how fucking crazy that would be? And imagine if I did that shit with a straight face like, come on, you all know me. I love quesadillas and fucking fajitas and shit. You know me, Yolanda. You blow your fucking minds minds but that's what fucking nicki haley originally uh nimrata uh something something i can't remember last name right now but like fuck that noise yeah um but you know and so it is just like we said like if bernie

sanders takes over the democratic party the democratic national committee he's putting his own people in place he has a network you know they have our revolution they have all these affiliate groups all these labor groups all these community activists they're just going to kick out a bunch of the fucking grifters and hacks who uh i mean we'll talk about in a second but most famously now it's being highlighted but because they built this fucking app that just destroyed the iowa caucus these people who don't exist for any reason except to like cash fat paychecks from donors from rich donors trying to peddle influence right and so he's just going to kick those people out and so they recognize this is an existential threat because the gravy train is over if bernie sanders

is the nominee and so yeah if bernie sanders goes down in flames that's a great scenario for them because well if they can defeat him in the primary that's ideal but if he if they can't do that then they want him to lose to trump because that's when they say hey we got to go back to the new democrat model you know we can't have him winning the white house because that's the end of the democratic party as it has existed since bill cl won the White House in 1992. Sure. I just don't, I mean like, with everything they have with Iowa, I just think it's gonna be fucking dumb hurdles like this over

and over and over again. And I'm not even condoning it. I'm not saying that that's what's probably gonna happen. I'm predicting it. No, fuck that noise. I want that to not happen. I would hope that things will run a bit more straightforward at that point. But I just feel like the Bernie Sanders base is not fucking biting as hard as they need to, if you know what I mean.

Yeah. How so? This Iowa shit, man. I mean, like, they came out with the numbers at, like, midnight or 3 a.m. or whatever, being like, hey, this shit was horse shit. I don't know. Steven, you're right to look at me like I'm crazy. But it's one of those things where what i would wish is that the sanders campaign would be a bit more like this would that happen

here horse horse shit and even though because a lot of people i know that are a bit more um moderate liberals or they're more centrist they were like well it just seems like people were inept like they just seem like they've made mistakes. And it's like, mistakes? What? Well, I think no one in the Burning Camp thinks it was just mistakes, obviously. Sure, certainly. But I think they have the, like, his campaign and, like, I don't know, people in DSA have been talking to him about this. Like, they're more of the mindset of, like, well, the best revenge we can get

is just by focusing our rage onto organizing in the remaining states. Definitely. So that whatever shenanigans they got up to here don't matter. Right. And like we have little sort of, I mean, you could try and like sue them or something. But that will take a lot of time. It does seem that the people that are in tune with the Bernie Sanders base, the DSA, and the Brooklyn Podcast Collective that doesn't exist do feel that way.

But I think that the middle America liberalism is going, well, you know, things happen. That's true. The Niners lost the Super Bowl because they missed a call. They'll never admit that there's a conspiracy. Right. And that's where I'm more frustrated. The only conspiracy they acknowledge is Russia hacked 2016. Right.

And even though there's demonstrably much more evidence that there was some conspiracy afoot with Iowa than there is for Russia hacking

to a substantial degree the election in 2016. Yo, it's called Shadow. The fucking shit's called Shadow Inc. That wouldn't pass in a fucking Watchmen comic. Literal dark money is flowing around to this thing. Right, like they're so obsessed with

Russia that they believe that Bernie supporters are angry because of Russia. Putin, you know, again, a country with the GDP of California is pulling the strings on all events. Just to kind of explain this for people who haven't studied this too closely,

this is an app created by a company called Shadow, which didn't exist five months before the vote. So a company was formed five months before this fucking vote. And it gets, because of its networking connection, it gets a contract to make an app for the Iowa caucus that will count the vote and then the app fucking melts down and I just wanted to say something as somebody who's worked in an office with boomers like just Microsoft Windows is hard enough you know boomers like if you are under the age of 59 and you are in an office, they consider you the tech guy because, you know, you know how Windows works and you know how to like press control X when they accidentally delete everything on their Excel file. You can sum a column. You are a god.

Okay. Like age weighted. That is like impressive. Right. okay like age-weighted that is like impressive all right they they start calling you mark zuckerberg and treating you like the fucking russian hacker from the movie golden eye because you know how like pivot tables sort of work so one thing i can agree with on like the it was incompetence angle and i think was probably the case is that the the iowa state democratic party representatives who are the ones who like the i think they're called the supervisors and I think was probably the case, is that the Iowa State Democratic Party representatives

who are the ones who, I think they're called the supervisors. So those are elected positions. And that's mainly older, like geriatric, honestly, people who are probably going to have, they're probably going to struggle with a good app. Right.

Let alone a shitty one. Sure. And that you don't get any advice like some places they didn't even tell them what it was called so they couldn't search for it to download right yeah yeah and that's exactly my point is like even imagine this app worked perfectly which it didn't that's kind of what caused all this chaos if this app was crashing but even if it worked perfectly you know you would just have a ton of people who are like you know 60 something you know volunteers or iowa party affiliates or whatever the case may be

who just have no idea how this fucking thing works and they're just throwing out the way they've done this for you know hundreds of years you know just for a fucking contract since 76 anyway yeah or yeah for however long they've done it. At least decades, let's say. But my point is, from the few articles I've read on this, and I really recommend, there's a piece in Politico called The Divisive Democratic Operative Behind Shadow, the app that broke Iowa. And that's about Tara McGowan, who a lot of people have seen on Twitter. But, you know, if you read one thing, I really recommend this politico article because it's enraging because it's entirely about how this company again shadow didn't exist five months before the vote it stacked its board with uh you

know former clinton operatives former obama people david plouffe was obama's 2008 campaign manager he came over from the uber board to sit on the board of Shadow. And then he comes over in 2019. Almost immediately after he comes over, it starts raising a ton of money from Silicon Valley people. Reed Hoffman is the LinkedIn billionaire. We'll have a future episode probably soon on him just to kind of dive into this a little more. Reed Hoffman gives them a ton of money after Davidid plouffe comes over because it's entirely you know obama raised all this money from silicon valley so all these silicon valley people they trust the obama people so david plouffe comes onto the board and suddenly

tara mcgowan is the ceo of acronym which is a non-profit that is the only investor in shadow which is i guess a for-profit company well so so they now say that they're the only investor, but originally it said they launched Shadow, and then they changed that on their website. So the entire angle that, oh, it wasn't corruption, it was just inept, it's like, you don't change minor details if it's just people fucking up.

That's calculated. I mean, McGowan has been distancing herself from the company that she helped co-found, pretty much. The funniest thing... She's the CEO, right? I mean, that's what's going to happen when Grubstickers gets canceled. I don't know what's going on over there at the Grubstickers. I've never been a part of it.

I was not involved in this project. The funniest thing is Tara McGowan, her Twitter profile picture is her reading the book Dark Money by Jane Mayer, which is a book about dark money operated by the Koch brothers while she's operating a giant dark money scheme. A company called Shadow. Yeah, the ultimate fucking liberal brain. It's just like,

it's a great book. We, of course, did the Koch brothers episode based on Jane Mayer's book, but it's just like, you can just see this. You can see how secret coke brothers money money is you know influencing elections and you know destroying and distorting democracy and then you just go on and just like fucking take reed hoffman's 75 million dollars and nobody has any idea what you're doing with it but are you fucking what what that's like me being a fucking domestic terrorist and my twitter profile has got me reading the anarchist cookbook.

Are you fucking kidding me? That's fucking horse shit. Where did Yogi learn how to make napalm? Well, his Twitter avatar's got him reading the anarchist cookbook. And he won't say to his listeners how he makes it, but he technically does know how to make some napalm. Was that Reisman wouldn't sell it in her book store? Yeah, I couldn't get in Canada, but I found it in the Pacific Northwest. So just from this Politico article, people point out that Acronym

is again the parent company that Tara McGowan is the CEO of. Acronym is a non-profit. This is the parent company. But critics point to the mix of for-profit entities established under the non-profit parrot company and they quote a anonymous democratic operative quote people are really

frustrated and skeptical about the structure that tara has created there's a non-profit and then there are for-profits below it it's like a nesting doll it's moving money around in a way that's unclear to people huh and so this is because of of course, you know, nonprofits do have slightly more transparency requirements than for-profit companies. So you can just set up a nonprofit on top, take money in, and then, you know, have all these for-profits below it with far less disclosure rules. And it's not clear, you know, who's getting paid what salary, if people are getting paid two salaries from the same company for doing one job, you know, and just all the way the money is moving around. So you just have no idea what she's doing with this $75 million she's got. That's legal to have a profitable company inside of a non-profit? Yep.

Man, I didn't know that. I mean, that was like... What? The ultimate... How is that legal? How is it legal to be like, I make money to fucking make my shit popular but also i got a side company that sells cocaine on the inside well i mean like what it is something we talked about on this podcast where we i wasn't paying attention well not that specifically but

we we talk about enough billionaires that you almost at some point start to respect the grift sure you know where it's like you see a good grift and you're like, yeah, man, you know, fuck a day job. Just get your money. And when it comes to politics, because our political system is so fucked up, the ultimate grift is just being like a super PAC asshole. Right. Because, like, that's exactly what people did

during the Obama era, is they would just, you know, buy ads on right-wing talk radio or on, you know, ads on right wing talk radio or on you know whatever web page that's promoting some obama is a kenyan muslim uh fucking conspiracy theory just buy ads there and say donate here to stop the obama agenda sure people send you money and then you just pay it all out in salaries and you do like one thing and even to the for-profit companies that the non-profit owns what so it's like you can do that kind of grift. You can either do it on the grassroots level, like grifting from the people who consume right-wing or left-wing media or whoever your target audience is, or you can just go right to the billionaire trough.

And if you can get the Obama campaign connection or the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson or whoever the fuck, you can get this kind of grifter money and my i think the most charitable theory for how this app ended up getting into the iowa caucus and how it destroyed it is that um tara mcgowan's company uh raised 75 million dollars not at all clear what they did with it so they just uh you know they got reed hoffman and all these other silicon valley assholes apparently steven spielberg gave them some money as well they got all these assholes to give them their money and it's like okay we gave you 75 million you're according to uh disclosures you've spent less than a million of it what did you do with the money so they just like oh let's just throw together an app let's just call some people in the philippines to like fucking uh throw us an app for like on the cheap yeah yeah 10 grand or

five grand or however much that would cost they had 75 mil they spent a mil on something and then they built an app that doesn't work but must have cost less than a couple of million let alone even one and then they ate 70 plus million dollars uh they're just sitting on it they're just sitting on it like nobody knows what exactly they're doing. And Steven Spielberg roped in on this and fucking formed our Microsoft money through LinkedIn and this. Right. So according to the same Politico article,

David Plouffe, again, Obama's 2008 campaign manager, he joined the group's board, acronym's board, in fall 2019. In November 2019, acronym announced it would spend $75 million on digital advertising to counter Donald Trump's online spending onslaught. So they raised $75 million.

They're saying they're going to spend all of it. Three months later, that deluge of spending has barely begun. Despite McGowan's public urgency, Acronym spent only $781,000 on advertising on Facebook and Google since the start of November. This is according to the tracking firm Advertising Analytics. And, you know, it's spent some money other places, but of course with online ads, it's just Google and Facebook are the number one and two. So it's just like, so they announced they're going to spend $75 million.

They announced they raised $75 million. They spent less than a million on digital advertising. So it's like, where the fuck did the money go? And I think I mean my most charitable theory is they were like okay if we can throw this app together we can be like yeah we developed the app and that's like and that's something that was like that would placate some of our Silicon Valley paymasters mm-hmm it's like when Broad City creators were broke New York improv

actresses and they need to send something to their parents to prove that they were doing something they created the web series Broad City so this is this is the app version of the web series of Broad City made by Yannick Laser and Abby Jacobson I see what's going on here right and so again just to kind of go through, Tara McGowan was she directed digital strategy at Priorities USA Action, which was the main super PAC assisting Hillary Clinton during the 2016 White House campaign. So she like she essentially went from the Clinton campaign, which, you know, again, directed digital strategy. So great job there. Wonderful. Knocked it out of the park. She lost to a bunch of fucking 4chan poll users who were the pro bono Donald Trump digital team in the 2016 election.

And she had a billion dollars to throw around. And McGowan has ties to the Iowa Democratic Party leader. Right? Price? Yeah. Troy Price. I'm trying to remember all the links here. I know McGowan's husband is also a Clinton person. Let me see.

There's a Lee Fang article in The Intercept that goes through some of this stuff as well. I just want to say, listen, we've talked about Obama, his campaign, the dark money. We talked about shadow. I don't know how you two have gotten really good at not saying the word black on this show,

but all I gotta say is Buttigieg accidentally called dark money black money oh there you go why's it gotta be black money Pete sorry I was mistaken

it's even worse you called it black money at one point you called dark money black money that's what they called it during a campaign in Iowa I think

they called that in India but I don't think Pete's going to India that often so I just wish you were in the audience. Why has God be black? That would have been great. That would have made my life.

So according to the Lee Fong Intercept article McGowan's husband, Tara McGowan her husband is Michael Hall a senior strategist with the Pete Buttigieg campaign. So it's even worse than him also being a Clinton person it's a fucking senior strategist with the person who is without question benefited the most from this meltdown is her husband um and you know uh apparently according to that same article uh a person with

knowledge of the company's culture shared communications showing that top officials at the company regularly expressed hostility to Senator Bernie Sanders. The article also quotes a precinct captain for Sanders who requested anonymity who says that we didn't know about the app until like a month before the election and we didn't have access to the app until three days before the election. What's the app called? Can I get it? What's the ratings on that app right now?

How many stars it got? Shadow app. I looked up shadow app. Two stars. It only, it doesn't exist. It's all over the games. About ninjas and shit. Yeah.

All the reviews are from precinct captains. All 99 of them. Or like all 1,600, whatever. The only thing they programmed it to do was ask you to rate it five stars. That's like the most essential part of it. I tried to send them my results and it just said like lol no.

You know one thing I'll also mention is that like this whole fucking shadow ink acronym bullshit is going to slow down the whole hey you can vote from your phone now nonsense because at the end of the day technology merging with politics can be beneficial to the people that aren't in power but when things like this come up these type of scandals it makes people more weary of adding tech into uh the political

process this application wasn't even something potentially as cool as online voting right it's just reporting right regular votes yeah so like the, I want to make a distinction between, like, the Iowa caucus and the stupid app. That's true. Because, like, the actual caucus went off basically without a hitch. Sure. It took about one and a half hours. So, like, regular Iowans did their job. I remember seeing one thing, because I was watching it the night of where in round one

there was one precinct where they thought they had enough Elizabeth Warren people and then half of them left and then they miscounted or something. But maybe that might be

on the campaigns themselves and not the caucus. I assume you could be right about that. In the second round you can either realign or you can just leave if no one who is left who is is viable, is to your liking.

So I think with a whole bunch of Warren supporters at one of the precincts, they left because they thought they had enough. And then they didn't have enough. So she wasn't even... She didn't get any delegates in that area. Well, I think as of right now, Warren is only leading in one county. Gotcha. Out of 99.

That was the other thing I was thinking about, Sean, where I was like, if this has got massive government conspiracy and they want someone to take down Sanders, wouldn't they back fucking Warren instead of the fucking rat-faced Pete?

Nah. They need someone who has a chance. Well, we were talking about this on the most recent episode we did about the Pete Buttigieg campaign about, sorry, about Jerry Schwartz

and Heather Reisman, which I got wrong again but uh we were talking about how people to judge just came out of nowhere right so you know like it's funny i see some pete defenders online say you know he's not even rich like he's one of the least rich it's because he's fucking owned he's all that's standing between him and being a multi-millionaire is just time. Yeah. Right. Because he's only 38. Yeah.

He's well on his way to being worth $10 million very shortly compared to most people in the lifespan. I mean, it's something where with Elizabeth Warren, I take her at her word that she knows enough about private equity and Wall Street and all this that she would distance the Democratic Party from that part of the coalition. Her word being how. Yeah. You know, so she would kick the Wall Street people out of the party or like just permanently send them over to the other side because, you know, she would do these kinds of reforms

that would absolutely undo some predatory aspects of our financial system. Wall Street would offer to buy her campaign for $20, and she would accept it. You know, at the end of her speeches, you know, she sees all the confetti on the ground, single tear out of her eye every time. Hey, Liz, isn't that nice?

Morgan Stanley sent a gift to your inauguration. Check out all these blankets. A pox on the... Yeah. But I guess what I was saying there is that with Pete Buttigieg, if there is a CIA billionaire Jeffrey Epstein candidate, which, you know, we can't know for sure. We're not in the room for these decisions.

But if there is, it's fucking him because he is bought and owned a hundred percent like liz warren is of course preferable to bernie sanders because you know she will like dislodge you know 20 preferable to bernie sanders liz warren to you to the establishment okay you know liz warren will if she does what she says will jettison the financial side of the coalition but she will keep the health insurance company she'll probably not touch the pharma of the coalition. But she will keep the health insurance companies. She'll probably not touch the pharma companies too hard. We're going to World War III. Right.

There'll be a lot of just kind of the traditional hacks and paycheck cashers and parasites and rent seekers who will get to stay in the party if Elizabeth Warren goes in. Vice President Squanto. Bernie Sanders will clear it out entirely. But Pete Buttigieg is even more preferable because he's not going to touch it because he isn't entirely billionaire funded. Millionaire and billionaire. It's all of these fucking Epstein freaks. We went through the connections, you know, Glenn Dubin, Oren Kramer, Mark Zuckerberg, and all these people who are just completely they own Pete Buttigieg. He will never do shit to them.

So it makes sense that, you know, assuming we go with the conspiracy, that he is the one they would want to walk out of Iowa. And, you know, even just the not conspiracy is that he did the best job fundraising from billionaires. He spent all that money in Iowa and he got a decent result for it. raised much more than biden yeah biden is actually kind of cash strapped right now really yeah he's making out with his daughter too much he still thinks it's 1970 as the older inflation rate applies exactly uh but i guess just to go back to your earlier thing you know according to propublica it's called the iowa reporter app and uh pro publica actually took this app and they showed it to a security firm called veracode and veracode's chief technology officer said that uh the the app could have very easily been hacked he said uh an attack would have been very easy to pull off if any precinct worker had used an open wi-Fi hotspot to report their votes. He said the problems with the app were elementary.

He called it a, quote, elementary. He called it a poor decision to release the software without first fixing them. Quote, it is important for all mobile apps that deal with sensitive data to have adequate security testing and have any vulnerabilities fixed before being released for use uh the department of homeland security the u.s department of homeland security offered to test the app for the iowa democratic party but the party never took the government up on it uh the official said the party did participate in a dry run. The party did not respond to requests for comment from ProPublica. Wow. What a bunch of fucking dumb loons.

You see that photo of that fucking shadow team, and it's like eight people. It looks like a fucking, that was a great tweet. It's four of them hugging their laptops and laughing and looking in different directions. That was a great tweet. Someone said, this is the UCB improv group that built that app. But I'll tell you this. Steve is right. It's like four people hugging their laptops and shit.

And I think like six out of eight got Macs. And I'll tell you this. No good apps are made by people that use Macs. I'm sorry. That just doesn't happen. Good apps are built on Windows. Might want to disclose your financial incentive there, Yogi, just for people who don't remember. No one needs to know nothing.

The evidence is out there. Yogi's like Tara McGowan-ing it up over here. Just not disclosing that his husband works for Microsoft. I don't see what the problem is. I mean, there's no issue here. Why did I buy only Microsoft stocks and best brokers recently? I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but I'm pretty sure the PC revolution is coming. Yogi contributed $28,000 to Shadow.

I will say, I got myself a Bernie sweater, so it's happening, ladies and gentlemen. So according to FiveThirtyEightBlog's forecast, which is basically just a propaganda thing against barney these days pretty much um for super tuesday on in march um they still have sanders as being the odds-on favorite in all but two states in the two states where he's not south carolina and alabama it's biden still oh so like if you're I mean the map just does not really look that great for Pete Mayor Pete right I'm sorry just to go back to an earlier thing Michael Hall

is Tara McGowan's husband not only is he a lead strategist for Pete Buttigieg he was Hillary Clinton's lead organizer in Iowa in 2016 wow So this is her husband and her company that's trashing Bernie and taking 75 million from Silicon Valley billionaires for some reason. But like, um, it, uh, just to underscore,

like, so I was important for every single candidate, but I think it was especially important for Buddha judge because like his whole thing is he wants to create this momentum going into the states where he has no poll with voting groups that he would need. Right. Such as non-white people. Yeah. In the South.

And a lot of the Super Tuesdays in the South right now. You see that rat-faced fuck walk out that cafe and the person's like, you think it was a little premature that you said that you were Victoria's last night? And the smirk on his face that looks like a dog that ate a snack it shouldn't have. What a piece of fucking shit. Bernie is probably at like 29% in New Hampshire. Yeah. He's obviously going to win there. He's the odds-on favorite for New Hampshire,

and if Liz Warren has any decency, she will drop out and endorse Bernie after New Hampshire. But it is something where... Yeah. Oh, sorry. I was going to say, Warren, somebody did some digging into her campaign spending, and she's been canceling flights to Nevada and South Carolina.

Oh, really? Which seems to suggest that maybe she's pulling back from the States. Interesting. Well, either she's just trying to do a long campaign to be the unity candidate at the convention because it is like, you know, of course, Michael Bloomberg can spend forever.

He'll stay in it forever. And it is something where, because they've, you know, got rid of some of Bernie's momentum here, if he wins New Hampshire, it'll just be the usual narrative from the media of, oh, it's just a, you know, all white state, doesn't represent us. Let's take a look at what happens in South Carolina where, you know, actual people of color and black voters exist. Might as well be black. Yeah. And, you know, so they're just trying to drag it on long enough, long as possible. And they just the idea is that it is possible, according to even 538 projections, that we could make it to the convention without Bernie having enough delegates to win it outright at the convention.

And if he doesn't have enough delegates to win it outright at the convention, you know, assuming Liz Warren goes on that pass, she could be the unity candidate where the DNC and the Sanders people come together. But hopefully she will do the decent thing because I don't think that's a viable option for her. And the decent thing is drop out and endorse Bernie Sanders so he can actually take a majority and restore legitimacy to this process. I mean, she might do that, but then she'd be on a trail of tears. So what do you think is more common, Sean? Yeah, the cutting her campaign staff is the trail of tears. That's right, precisely. She's relocating them to Oklahoma. That's right.

You think you're getting this fucking Native American Elizabeth Warren jokes on other podcast ladies and gentlemen? Is this doing anything for you? Uh-uh. Yogi's unbearable. She was like, my campaign's union has said that I can't fire these workers. Now let them enforce it. But one other thing from that ProPublica article I was quoting from.

So they talk about in state and county governments are going to manage most of the upcoming primaries along with the general election, whereas these caucuses are managed by the local political party. Like the Nevada caucus is done by the local Democratic Party, the Iowa caucus, too. And just quoting from the article, government agencies must adhere to state and federal information security standards, which do not necessarily apply to parties. So it is just something where this app that crashed, that was made by a company that didn't exist five months before the election, that the Bernie people only had access to three days before the election, this app that is very easily hackable

doesn't have to, because it's being done by the parties, doesn't have to apply to any security standards. So mean look we don't know if you don't know incompetence is usually the best explanation but it is worth pointing out that there's nothing really stopping them from just trying to roll out the CIA Pete fuck you app on the state caucus level because they don't have these same requirements that um uh elections that are managed by county and state governments do have these security requirements information security standards i should say um and you know just uh one other thing tara mcgowan uh in a tweet that came out after a lot of people saw this

she called um shadow quote an independent company acronym invested in unquote acronym was of course the only investor in shadow and in 2018 of course they um uh they trumpeted the group much earlier uh back in 2018 from that same account. So it's just entirely running away from the flaming wreckage. What a bunch of fucking mooks. You know, with that most recent haul of official results, I mean, that's still not including most of the satellites. Right.

Yeah, that's crazy that they're not counting the satellites. That's so bizarre. I honestly think they're doing that just because they know that they'll break for Sanders. Man, what fucking leeches. Because like they're, Sean, do you know what I'm talking about on Twitter? People had some photos of some of the satellite groups early on. And like it was people who just for whatever reason can't go back to their home precinct. Sure.

And it was mainly Sanders. for whatever reason can't go back to their home precinct sure and it was mainly sanders yeah so i guess well well whoever's listening to this by the time you do you'll probably know the results well once the iowa caucus results are out this episode in this moment so look for this episode march 2024 i just love sorry i'm just reading through these already and we could go through all this, but Tara McGowan, apparently at one point she invited, after this happened, she said, you know, Shadow is just like a company we invested in. Right. But then back in either 2018 or 19,

she invited interested parties to direct message her about Shadow's, quote, roadmap. So she was clearly claiming she was running this thing uh and you know uh david plouffe was act uh asked about this on um msnbc and he kind of made it look like he just uh he said quote i have no knowledge of shadow it was news to me and these people are just lying through their fucking teeth i mean and the best case scenario like well let's say the least evil machination of this is just like we just went through this is exactly the reason you want to elect barney sanders is to destroy these people and get rid of

these fucking rent seekers and parasites because the best explanation that you can possibly think of for what happened here is that somebody with connections to the Clinton and Obama team was like, hey, I could raise $75 million if I just, you know, put one of these Obama guys on my board and take some Clinton people that I know from when I was working on the Clinton campaign. If we just get like a, you know, digital tech company, because that's, you know, the way i've seen it explained is a lot of these campaigns if you're a democratic startup you of course have to have a web presence so a lot of them just outsource that they just go hey let's just buy like a twitter and a facebook presence and a website and a digital team so if you just have the connections to just be the web team for multiple campaigns it's free fucking money yeah and you know you know people in the iowa and nevada caucus the nevada caucus paid shadow for this same app they've since said that they will not be using the

app but there have been like talk of let's use a different app it's like no just fucking let's do this the way we've been doing it it was working fine but you know people want that free money so they have to act like they're doing something. That's the best explanation. And all the more reason to just clear these people out and destroy them by electing Bernie Sanders. That's right. I mean, listen, if you want to give us $75 million, we're going to give you an app that doesn't work. I'll tell you that right now. If that's the qualifications for making $75 million, I can do that tonight.

We have Andy building the Grubstakers website, which will revolutionize podcast websites. That's right. But we need you to up your donation. Oh, and one other connection. Ben Hall is, so again, Tara McGowan is married to Michael Hall, who's a former Hillary Clinton's lead organizer in Iowa. His brother, Ben Hall, is Pete Buttigieg's Iowa communications director. So her husband's brother is Pete Buttigieg's Iowa communications director who tweeted out caucus results sheets that had an as yet unexplained pin written on them. And people have theorized about this, but there's some sort of pin number

that relates to this fucking app that was written on the sheet that he tweeted out which would be the most like boomer cia shit you follow your passwords written down on a piece of paper at your desk just take a picture of it and tweet it out like the fucking secret vote changing app oh and uh steve you were telling me that they reported the iowa Democrats reported, Deval Patrick got a bunch of votes for some fucking reason. Yeah, I mean... What's this about? Deval Patrick, little-known presidential candidate. Right.

They tweeted new results, at the time anyway, saying he got 494 votes in one county, which is just absurd. Really? Yeah. 490... What? Well, it sounds like maybe, okay, maybe that's Really? Yeah. Four hundred and... What? Well, it sounds like maybe, okay, maybe it's not that much.

No, but actually, nobody knows who this guy is. Yeah. It's an Iowa county that is, like, not especially well populated. And, yeah. So, like, there's just no way. That's so bizarre.

And, like, at the same time, the county representatives for the Democratic Party tweeted what they actually sent at the time as the results, and, like, this doesn't match. That's so weird. So it had, like, Bernie having, like, roughly the same amount as Deval Patrick suddenly has in these new results. Yeah, Deval Patrick, the former Massachusetts governor and Bain Capital guy, who everybody forgot he was running 30 minutes before he announced that he was running. Nobody knows who he is. Never campaigned anywhere. Never showed up in Iowa, to the best of my knowledge.

And he just gets like several hundred votes mysteriously. And then I guess the Iowa Democratic Party tweeted out that they were uh correcting the results after earlier mistakes and they're reporting and it's just like stupid yeah and like you know like like i'm gonna take it on faith that this app rollout and this disaster was just corruption it was just somebody knew some people in the iowa nevada party and they got to roll out this shitty app to make it look like they were doing something with the giant pile of money they inherited uh so you know that's

corruption the app crashes but what's not explainable by just you know incompetence or corruption is how these numbers have been rolled out because you know again we're about to end this episode we still only have 92 of the result still buffering yeah p put a judge has been ahead in every little tranche released and you know maybe he ends up like except of course not in the popular vote in the popular vote bernie sanders has been ahead bernie sanders people's own numbers showed him ahead but you know if it comes out tomorrow or friday news dump or whenever that bernie fucking sanders actually won in the last 8% that they release. I mean, how the fuck do you explain that except them just being malicious little assholes who took this news cycle that, you know, the first news cycle was not about Bernie going back to back in Iowa and New Hampshire.

It was about Democratic incompetence. Then it was about Pete Buttigieg winning. Then it was about Pete Buttigieg winning. And now it's just kind of a mixture where it's it's a wash even if bernie walks away winning it by a news cycle it'll just be like man pete budaj kind of won it too it was a tie anyway you slice it it's just like a breathtaking subversion of democracy for the whole state i mean nationwide bullshit you know listen i'm not saying i don't watch the news but i spent five fucking hours that night just flipping between cnn msnbc and fox news i was watching

i was watching fox news at first because i was like i'm looking for some juicy fucking dirt i want to see fucking iowa go you know what sanders winning and fox news hosts just fucking have their dicks shrink into their ass he's got all his devol patrick gear but you know what i mean though i was like really fucking jonesing and uh boy am i fucking balls got blue balls that night in the worst way possible like i i saw a bunch of different scenarios but i did not see that happening and you know i should have known better but you did not see that happening. And, you know, I should have known better. You did not see that happening. But, you know, and it is just something where people don't really care.

Yeah. I mean, I shouldn't say people don't care, but a lot of people who are like, you know, let's say Democrats who are not Bernie supporters are just focused on Nancy Pelosi ripping up the president's speech and, you know, really just slay queening against him. I think a very tiny minority of people are actually caring about that. About the Nancy Pelosi thing?

Ripping up the papers. Yeah. I just like the official White House Twitter account, which was Speaker Pelosi just ripped up one of our last surviving Tuskegee Airmen. The survival of a child born at 21 weeks. The mourning families of Rocky Jones and Kyla Muller. A service member's reunion with his family.

That's her legacy. Right, right. It's an exact quote from the White House Twitter account. Because Trump also, Jared, that's State of the Union. Not the Union. Did a fucking, What is it called Veteran reunion with family Oh really

Viral video in the middle of his State of the Union I mean yeah again Grifter Salesman He puts on all the stops for the election year Years one and four so when you can watch out for him She was ripping up Some of the last known hard evidence Of the Tuskegee experiments I think somebody made that joke on twitter already she was ripping up bernie sanders ballots

but yeah i mean you know it is what it is uh by the time this is out hopefully we'll have full results hopefully they show Bernie Sanders winning. And, I mean, it is just something where we have to go and win in New Hampshire, win big in New Hampshire, and just kind of clean up from here and silence the doubters. Because the most important thing is that Bernie Sanders is the frontrunner. Bernie Sanders did just win Iowa. And they're trying to steal it at the convention. We wanted to present a united front of left-wing Brooklyn podcasts

saying these Iowa results are bullshit. They need to count them right. Bernie probably won. And we all know Pete Buttigieg is the type of man that's gay but don't eat butt. And you know that's true. You know that rat-faced mouse has never got inside an anus. You know it. Chastin?

That ain't happening. Chastin is the least anally-pleasured man in this country. You know he doesn't eat butt because he's a rat, not a hamster. That's right. But Steve is right. Solidarity, left podcast, all saying Bernie won

because he won the popular vote. And with that, this is McGrubstickers. I'm Yogi Paywall. I'm Steve Jeffries. I'm Sean P. McCarthy. We'll be back next week with a billionaire regular episode.

But you know what? Volunteer, donate harder. We're going to make Bernie Sanders win this thing and we are going to destroy the fucking democratic party because it is a virus and we are the cure are you kidding I'm married to him, yeah. Well then I don't want anybody like that in the White House.

So can I have my card back? I don't know. He signed it. We could go ask. I never knew that. The whole point of it is though, he's a human being, right? Just like you and me. And should it really matter?

Well, he better read the Bible. He does. And he says that God doesn't choose a political party. Why does it say in the Bible that a man should marry a woman then? Well, I totally respect your viewpoint on this. I so totally do. But I think that we were not around in that spirit. How come this has never been brought out before? It's common knowledge. I never heard it. We can talk to someone if you need to

talk to them about this. I don't know the rules on this or not, but I guess what I would like you to just dig deep inside and think, should it matter if it's a woman or if it's a man or if they're heterosexual or homosexual if you believe in what they say? That's my question for you. It all just went right down the toilet,

is where it all just went.