Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 104 - Genealogy Guys with Dave Anthony

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

We had Dave Anthony from The Dollop on to talk about Geneaology Guys. Are you related to Hitler? I learn the price of 23&Me and it makes us all mad. Dave also wanted to talk about swingers and who are we to deny him?  There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

And my co-host, descendant of a Cherokee princess, Chris James. Hi, buddy. I mean, that doesn't sound bad. Well, it's stupid. Okay, but wait. It's something people lie about. Let me tell you, that's an insult in a genealogy world because it's something everybody lies about

because one, there's no princesses and- I understand. I see. So, and then Cherokee is like, a lot of people will say that they're indigenous or First Nations. I'm in Canada, so maybe use different terminology, but they'll lie about that. And Cherokee is kind of the go-to one that they use to lie. I just want to clarify as to not

sort of come across Cherokee. I'm well, I'm not. I'm I am fully Caucasian. I will say that. Not me. And as a guest, somebody we've been, I've been wanting to do a podcast with for many years from the dollop. Dave Anthony. Hi, Dave. Hi, not I'm not from princesses. You're not from a Cherokee princess either. No, I have like three friends who told me growing up like people that Porto Sean, I think had had a had some Cherokee blood. He said he did. I don't think he did He was blonde hair and all that stuff. Yeah Porno Sean, I have seen a photo of him though. I mean, this is possible. It is possible Yeah

Yeah, I'm sure there was an occasional blonde Cherokee run around and I'm also like yeah, I'm just sure in general, of course, there's a lot of people lying about it, but there's some people not lying about it. You know, there is a seem like there's some people not lying about it. But there but there are that's got to be the case. There are people who are descendants of Cherokee in it. What you know what I mean? Like they're how they have to actually exist, right?

Well, honey, a funny thing about the genealogy guy. That's who we're covering this week. A funny thing about them is there are very scientific minded ones who come to this looking for an objective like where I come from what my family was. Were there any weird people in my past? Was there any cancer? And then there are the other people who are trying to verify that they are that they're a king or they're like a word word from Thor. Yeah, I think a lot of that those people kind of they just get a feeling like inside of themselves that they are a certain way and they're like, I must be like, I just feel like I'm the same

as Thor when I watch the movies. You know? I don't know if this kind of thing happens as much in Canada, but it is such an American thing that like every white guy is like, oh, I'm Irish. I'm from Ireland. I am Irish and I fight, my family fought on the union side of the Civil War. No, that doesn't happen. We do have a lot of Irish people here. Like we have

a lot in Vancouver where I live. There's a lot of Irish people. But yeah, no, it's I mean, I think we're just kind of we call ourselves can you I don't know. I don't know. It's not really a big thing in my world. Definitely. I've I'm Scottish and Norwegian. I don't know what I am. I do know that down on in the genealogy world. They're like You don't care Genuinely don't care. I yeah, that's my my my thing with with God is that I don't care And my thing with ancestry is I don't give a fuck what what what actionable information is gained by finding out that I'm three quarters fucking Irish or whatever. You know what? I can only think of Irish.

Yeah, I suppose. Like I suppose if you're having like like some sort, you're not you're not able to find yourself. You know, you're having some sort of like any and you can then say, oh, I'm an Irish person now. And like you have something to identify as, you know, and now you can be like, I'm going to go to Irish bars. I'm going to get into the culture and it might help you to create your identity. But yeah, other than the cancer thing that you mentioned or finding out that type of stuff that runs in the family, that could be awful. It doesn't seem to gain you anything.

Dave, have you ever had any interest? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, from the aspect of like, I think it'd be cool to go back to because we are actually Irish to go back to Ireland and find relatives that you're related to. But that's kind of it. Like, I don't really see any other purpose. It's just kind of like, I mean, we're all in America. We don't have like like ancestry sort of soap. I see how people seek it out. But there's a there's a level of like needing to know that you're of something great and you're you're not I think the

most important thing is to just learn. You're not English. Well, that's yeah, about me is that I am number one. Oh, no. Number two, my grandma all my life was like, you know, and I learned this. This is something I actually did learn from this episode. She's like, yeah, we're related to George Washington. And so I started.

Oh, hang on. Hang on. Sorry on, sorry. Who said that? Your grandmother? My grandmother, yeah, my dad too. Your dad said it as well? Yeah. He got it from his mom who's your grandmother?

Who probably was older. This is the thing. I was told I was related to Susan B. Anthony growing up and that was- Oh no, you're gonna find out that's not that great. That was absolutely just garbage. It turns out you dodged a bullet there, Dave. No, it's funny because he was he was like, we're descendant from George

Washington as you start to read these forums and stuff, the subreddit. I saw a lot of people say, you know, you're basically related to everybody. And I was like, that's not that can't be satisfying if you're another at the beginning There was a giant orgy Whoa, don't get him. Yeah, don't get him Wait, Ryan both your hands, please both your hands What was that what when there were three people, right? Yeah. Was there one single guy that was a guy and he was that's where it started. That's where the whole thing started, where he was like they were just like hooking up and he was

kind of like, hey, hey guys, you know, I didn't want to hand her a hand. Then they're leering over, leering over a rock behind a rock. Yeah. His name was like, no, you're not allowed in. It was it was Adam and Eve and Trevor. Well, let's take a look at some some posts here we got from our genealogy. Does anyone else get the feeling that people consider genealogy weird? I don't know if I consider it weird. It's more pointless. Like we were talking about, I think. But, and Dave, you did bring up a good point though. Learning about family could

be cool. Like, you know, if you find out your heritage, you're like, Oh, I have family that's in that country. I could go visit them perhaps. Although it is kind of, if you're a grown up, you're going to visit strangers or whatever, you know My buddy did do it. He went to Ireland and he goes to this small village Because he knows he's from that village That's where his name comes from and then this woman sees him and starts talking to him and then she's related Some out somehow and they go in the house and she's got a drawer She takes a picture with everyone who comes to the village

with their name. And there's a drawer of hundreds of pictures of people. And she's like, these are all of our relatives from all over the world. Oh, that's wild. I mean, yeah, see, that's like kind of cool. I remember I went and I met a bunch of, we did like this family thing, you know,

where it was like my family going back since they came to Canada and it was all this like old some real kind of nerdy Member of the family and put together this really elaborate I had that too has really elaborate video that they put together and it was it was kind of interesting to see it was kind of boring after about 10 or 15 minutes, but it got saved because, God rest his soul, he's deceased now, but he was like my aunt's husband, and he was so old, and he didn't give a fuck at the end, and some other old guy was like,

they're like, hey, all the short people to the front, and then some other old guy, they didn't really know each other. He was like, hey, that means you, to this guy, Mike, who I knew, you know the and then Mike this he's like 90 years old he looks right at this other old guy and he's like fuck you. And I thought it was gonna be like a full fight like he was like no joke about it it was like a full confrontation and it was the coolest thing ever my brother and I talk about it all the time, you know? I went once to a family reunion, but it was for my stepmom side. So it had nothing to do with me.

But then my wife every year in Cincinnati, her family had a reunion. For the first like 10 years we were together, we would get guilted into going. And my favorite part of that reunion was there was this lady there. And she kind of reminded me of my aunt where she was had a morphine patch on all the time.

And it was like very hot outside and very humid and everybody was sweating and those things are activated by heat. Oh God. She was just sitting and talking to me and my wife like the whole time just completely fucked up. It reminded me of my family because my aunt is also on that stuff and what she does is she puts the she puts the patch on and then lays it on a heating pad and just oh my god that's that's really the innovations that people come up with that's fantastic Is that is there a chance Brian that your wife's family was like, you know, Brian's gonna be a little bit sort of nervous

Coming over here. Let's make him feel at home. Somebody put on a morphine patch Make him feel more at all. I mean there was a piece of me So when I went to mine, it was my step mom's family and I didn't know any other people didn't care about him. There was one guy there. One kid never forgot his name was on Jay and I found that strange. Why did you find that? It was like you ever met somebody named on Jay, which is on and

pig Latin. Okay on Ted. Wait, so was that like you? I think so. I mean, what would be the other reason to name somebody on? This is it. You're talking. This is a white guy, white kid in Ohio.

Yes. Okay, that is that is more strange. I thought it was just like perhaps like, you know, somebody who is like, you know, Thai or Indian or something like that. But it's also the only time I think I ever was in the same place when my dad was having fun. Because I'm not going to go on a cruise with them. Yeah. Why not, Brian?

And we should talk about why not you should talk about that again. But you just your dad loves cruises and he clearly wants you to come. I know he does. And it would be really nice. Maybe you bring the whole family. All right. So anyway, the place is a great place to get the norovirus. And that can bring a family together. Like you have to swap toilets all like the whole time in the cabin.

It's good. Do it. I'm just saying, Brian, that, you know, maybe it's sort of a way that you could put out an olive branch or something like that. Well, and we've talked about my family in the past, where, like, I'll never know if cancer runs in a family because certain members of my family might lie about having it so that they can... Yeah.

You do the genealogy taking it as you have a history of lying about cancer. Well, I do have that in my family. Okay, so this person, because I don't know how else to phrase this question, haha. But ever since I got into genealogy, I feel like my family and friends who are aware of the hobby think it's weird. I don't bring it up anymore with people specifically because of this feeling, but they still manage to bring it up on my behalf in a way that feels like I'm being made fun of. Oh, this person, by the way, I do love that. I can picture this, you know, it's like something happens. It's like, oh yeah, like, yeah, you

probably check that out on your little fucking family trees there. You know, like, it's like, well, we'll let them live it down. I mean, are we talking about like, like, is it just like who I'm related to or is or is he talking about other like whatever diseases you could have in your what like what's the frame of. He seems like he what a lot of people seem like they want to know their family. OK, right. But this is like, but some people want to know other families. Like the thing I've learned is that if you went on ancestry dot com, of course, there's a lot of people that just have a family tree and they're working on it.

And by the way, you can comment on people's family trees. Yeah. So you can be like, this is there's a few of them. I have some posts later on about people saying take my grandfather off your family tree That's not your grandpappy, that's my grandpappy Crazy to go on someone's family tree and you see a member of your family on there But there's like people also on there that have like 15 family trees. You know what? I mean, I don't know why they're looking for stuff. I always get the impression that basically they're hoping to

be related to again, like a Viking general. All of them want to be related to a Viking. Yeah, of course. But I can also see at a spite like someone getting into someone else's family tree to see what kind of shit there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're like, yeah, I someone else's family tree to see what kind of shit they're. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're like, I think it would be fun to see the jail records like to see how many

of your relatives were jailed. We had we've had a couple guys in my family because I we do the yearly giant family thing and one guy looked it up and I remember he got as far as in like 1846. They were they decided to go across the country on a wagon train. And one of the the dad leader of the family just got shit face and wandered off. And then when he came back, the sons beat him up and they left him. And so so there's fun stuff in there. But we do know we have had a guy go all the way back to like we were the bellkeepers in Ireland.

And I'm like, yeah, everybody's probably related to the fucking bellkeepers. Yeah, that's what it feels like. That's the joy because they say like as you go back, you have more and more relatives. Yeah, like it multiplies as it goes. So there's less people and I know this feeling of feeling like I'm being made fun of, by the way. Like remember, I've talked about this in the past. I thought the Taco Bell people were making fun of me for a while. So well, that's where that's what I mean.

I don't remember saying, are you? Why did you think people? Oh, the drive-through and they were sorry. And they had no they were Dave not that not a corporation, but the people at the actual drive-through and they were sorry and they had no they were Dave not that not the corporation but the people at the actual drive through and they were laughing at him every time I go to the drive through I'd speak into the thing and the guy would sound like he was laughing when he answered and then when I got to the window they'd all be laughing and have a good time in there I'm like they're not having a good time at work they're laughing

at me they're making my voice or my order. Yeah, they're probably probably his orders are probably fucked and his voice is probably fucked. He can imagine like right off the bat, they're like, hey, can can can can we help you? And he's like, I try. So that's not I order four chili cheese burritos. Yeah. Of course, they sell here. That's not weird. Oh, my God.

Or chili is like so much to me. Is that they like small little things or they they are. Dave, are they small? You don't eat them. They don't have them there. No, I will go. I will go there, but I'm a vegetarian mostly. So I'll get just like a bean burrito and gotcha. You know, soft taco. I don't go near the meats, but you just sounded like what you order is like,

can I get just the diarrhea special like that? So yeah, I'll explain. Is that Ohio specific? You're telling me it's basically you could there's a little finder on talk. Taco Bell has Ohio specific dishes. Well, yeah. And let me explain this. This is this is what I will say that when I was in high school, they had a deal with Taco Bell.

The school did call. God. And they are. That sounds so fucked to me. I just listen. We got a lot of fucked up stuff up here. No, no. But that sounds so fucked to

me as a Canadian deal with with with Taco Bell and one with pizza because they had to deal with Pepsi altogether, like an all around deal with. Yeah. And they they would bring in every week, chalitos for 89 cents a piece. What are what are Chilitos? I don't know. It's really just like a chili cheese dog without the hot dog in a burrito. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, what? No, I don't. That is absolutely horrible.

Like, I don't know. I don't I can't picture the way you're describing it all. Yeah, I don't know. You saw you. I could show you a picture of one and you guys would be like, oh, that's not good. And also sometimes it occurs to me that like, but they only sell it in places where people were were got hooked on them

when they were in high school. You know what I mean? Like, it's like that's fucking they're like a dealer that get the kids hooked on the jet. And then it's the only explanation that makes sense to me is that, oh, they only sell it in like smaller and in a few places in those places were probably the places where they served them at lunch to kids in in high school. And now all the people are like, well, we got to they got to have them forever.

Now, the thing that worries me is is there just like a bag of chili cheese sauce just sitting at a factory like waiting to be sent and then because I'm probably one of few that order it, you know, yeah, someone like scrawled Ohio on the bag and it's just sitting in a Ohio truck to come by. So this person and by the way, so yeah, the, the, uh, they were making fun of me. He goes, it bothers me more than an art too, because of S because it is something I really enjoy and find fascinating. I make a point of not shoving it down anyone's throat because

I understood early on that basically no one cares. I, man, me right away. Like they would literally stop me in my tracks and say, stop, stop talking. I don't care. Um, I feel like I'm so confused by this, I guess, because I don't, how, how is this? I think it's the same confusion you were having before Dave, like how is this a hobby? It, once you find out your family tree, isn't it over? Right. You're done.

It's like a puzzle. You finished like hobbies are ongoing things. I feel like that you want to be able to continue to do. So I'm not sure I'm clear what these people are continuing to do stuff. More stuff about the people on the tree. You get what? Oh, so I think smaller details like, oh, is he worked at the cheese factory for Taco Bell? Yes. So wait, so they're they're like doing investigations. Yes, very much, very much. So they'll they'll find a guy that is before so they'll find a guy that say

your great-grandpa's still alive. I wish thanks for bringing up that. Hey, thanks for opening up that wound. Mine passed away actually. She would say your great-grand grandfather is still alive and you're doing a family tree. And there's a person in your past that you find that your great grandfather might've known. So then you go to your great grandfather and you get the information about that person, their personality, the kind of things they did, you add that to the tree for that person, and then it helps you to work your way back. It does make some sense to me. Yeah, that's nice.

But it's weird because they do find weird stuff like they definitely find like a lot of mistresses and a lot of bigamy like guys in in Europe that came over here and left a wife and daughter and start a whole new family. Yeah. So that would be a tough run into brick walls doing it. That's what ends up happening. A lot of times is they'll run into just a brick wall because there's these people that aren't that are connected that are not at all connected. So that's and you got to figure that out. So anyway, it goes, uh, I understood early on, basically no one cares. I just don't understand why it feels like not only do people not care, they're actively mocking me for the interest. Does this happen to other people? It doesn't change anything for me as far as

whether I continue or not. It just feels uncomfortable way, way more than really makes sense to me. First res Pye Ply is I've been doing genealogy for 30 years. I've had some of the same reactions from friends and family as you're getting, including mocking me for being interested in genealogy. Honestly, the first group of people who are very aware that they're being mocked and made fun of. But like I, I kind of have, I do a respect for them that they're like, Hey, I love this thing. You can make fun of me all you want about it. It's not hurting anybody and I'm going to keep doing it, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. And it goes in my experience, a person who mocked me many times over many years for being into genealogy also mocked me for lots of stuff. Oh, well, okay. So this is a a this is a schoolyard bully that you go to the corner store and he's waiting outside. If I could just wait. Well, just wait, guys. Then years later, he started wanting information about one of his family. Oh, here we go. Look who came around.

This is a movie script. If I've ever heard a lot. Look who wants to find out about the cancer now, right? Yeah, yeah, no kidding. You're holding it over his head and he's like interested because of a cancer scare and you're just like, oh, La Nina. Of course, I dropped everything for him. Not. Oh, shit. I thought he was. I thought he did drop everything for him.

Not. He got me in the first half. Even people who are sort of interested in genealogy don't want to know very much beyond when and where people lived. I spend a lot of time putting together a notebook of information for my parents, and they never read it or asked me about it. That's brutal, because, because, listen, that is brutal because the amount of work you can, you can judge it all you want want But you know, there's a lot of work that goes into that, you know Finding that information like you know tracking down those people that you give it to your parents are like, oh that's sweet, honey

Thanks, and you see it gathering dust Every time you go over there and still sitting there Oh in the same exact place and you're like, oh Well, they didn't like that. It is probably a gift to. Of course. Yeah. He was so excited to talk to his parents about all the people in the pad. Just like you're going to have so many great conversations. Oh, my God. Like the gift.

It's like, of course, I'm giving you the gift of the book, but really, it's the gift of the conversations that we're going to have. I found fascinating things. They were sixth cousins despite growing up hundreds of miles apart, but they didn't care. Six cousins. I don't even know what that is. That's like everywhere. Way off from the family. Yeah, I can go. Maybe we have some third cousins that I've met, but then you're you're you're way like I have nothing to do with you. You're just not part of my family. A stranger. You're a stranger. Yeah. Yeah.

This next guy goes, I discovered that my parents both have ancestry from the Shetland Isles, which would almost certainly mean they're distantly related. Neither of them had any clue about the Shetland Isles ancestors. They briefly feigned interest, but ultimately they were indifferent to my findings. But hey, give them a little credit for sort of pretending like they gave a fuck about this stupid shit for a little bit. You know, that's nice. John says, in doing my genealogy, I discovered that my wife and I are related four different ways. But the closest connection is that we are 10th cousins and she's related to my ex wife twice and I was related to my ex three times.

So this is a GFC. I guess I don't understand how this stuff works. Yeah. Yeah. I got that one that that made me realize how little I know about this. How are you related to someone more than once? Yeah, I have no idea. I really don't.

I don't know how it works, I guess. I thought I did, but I don't. Well, I guess you could be like it's like the same way you could be like your dad could be your uncle and your dad at the same time, maybe. But yeah, yeah, I think it like is is a cousin has a relation that ties in with the other person, I guess. And then it becomes your cousin and your dad. I heard a lot of stuff.

This person goes, my family is a bit like this. I've heard things like what have they done for you? Fuck, you know what? Cut it loose. If you're not going to read the book, you get rid of those motherfuckers. You would have done for you and the

family now. He's saying that about who is that about? It says implying unless someone directly impacts your life, you shouldn't waste two seconds on them. Never mind that without them, you literally wouldn't exist. Oh yeah. This guy, this next thing he says is I don't want to find this is another quote from

his family. I don't want to find out I'm related to a bunch of horse thieves. Probably a bunch of horse thieves. Congrats zero horse thieves or thieves in general as far as I can tell and besides we already knew about the ant who set the local jailhouse on fire so I don't know why horse thieves were such a big deal. These are I would be so excited to know is related to horse thieves. I agree. What the fuck are they talking about? The greatest thing that we ever found out in my family is why we're not religious, because my great grandfather had and we found this out later through my cousin researching this stuff.

We got kicked out of a church because they tried to raise the Puffy and my either my great-grandfather, my great-great-grandfather refused to have any part of it. And so the church excommunicated him. Wow. So we're not. I mean, we have some swords like my dad was like, we have some. And I've talked about our family silverware that we had had because I sold them to one of those places that it melts down silver. But in his defense, he needed to buy pills.

That's true. I gave me like $80 for those timeless. Yeah. Yeah. that research the people that built my house and the house I used to live in. There's another tree. That's another thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's weird. I think you're researching other people that aren't your family. Uh, that's w that gets into weirdness. I think for me, privacy concerns at the very least, why are you doing that? I guess would be the main question I would have.

Isn't that what the Mormons are doing aren't they doing all the family trees? Yes, because you can Save people you can you can make people temple worthy or something after related to them. Yeah Yeah, so they just make people Mormon after that's fucking smart That's one of the smartest religion things I've ever heard. You know, I could stop you from doing it. Yeah. By the way, your great grandmother was a Mormon. No, she wasn't. Yes, she is now. Is now a great to say she's a Mormon.

She's one of our top members. She's vice president. I researched the business they go and I did back when the Internet was not a thing. Was it weird? Don't care. Is it creepy? I want to know if someone died in my house. Yeah, probably. But no one did. So there's that. I feel it's no different than people getting all my sports team guy and cosplaying them during sports season to each their own. and to each their own. It's different. It would be like if you got into the sports team and you started researching about their families and stuff like that. The sports guys, that's what it would be like. Actually, this person goes, I can't comprehend for the life of me why people would be genuinely entertained by watching a sport for a single second. Yeah, alone.

Thousands of hours of doing it at great expense. And yet almost everyone I know engages in this. There are the weird ones. Yes, thank you. Have you ever been out in the parking lot for a big genealogy convention? You just. I tailgate them.

Yeah, always I get I bring my barbecue. I was at a sporting event recently. Stefan. We had six throw seats, lower bowl, six throw for the Canucks game. No ice cream. I can tell you it was appalling how boring it was. I was like, what is going on here? First off, hockey game.

Hockey games are like the best live sport. It was so boring, Dave. You wouldn't even imagine I was I was yelling from my seat. I was yelling, Excuse me. Where is your heritage from? All of the players, all kinds of everyone. This person goes, I know without it being said for my friends, that is weird to most of them, I've done most of the work for many of the naysayers and their minds change. I think

it's just another hobby that well, not everyone's into think of the people who are birdwatchers or do woodwork. We have thought about birdwatchers. We've done an episode on Joe Perrin. Yeah, that was, um, they were really nice. And I would say that in a similar way to these, the ones who are, who are just looking up their own family and doing this kind of fun little research, talking to old family members, trying to find out that that's really fun and harmless. And you know, it's like maybe a little bit annoying and I have no interest, but similar to birdwatching, it seems they seem kind of nice, you know, listen to this, John Stryker, John Stryker goes to our genealogy and he says, well, damn related to Hitler.

Yeah, that's not one. That is not one you want to find. Like, honestly, that's got to be one of the worst ones. I think you probably just close the binder up. Yeah. Well, a new hobby. You're gonna put this away. That's one of the things.

I suspect. this away. I mean, my mustache sort of gave me a feeling. I'm always I'm always like pushing down feelings in my body that make me feel like I'm Hitler. I want to run for president or chancellor if I can. Now. Yeah, I want to be for president or chancellor if I can. Now, yeah, I want to be the president, but for some reason I keep thinking chancellor in my head when I say it. Yeah, but now I can't run away from it.

Now it's irrefutable. I am, in fact, related to it. That's a sick call, right? Be fair, my last name is Hitler, so I. He goes, someone connected my very well researched family tree to Adolf Hitler. If this stands, he's my fifth cousin, four times removed. Well, hoping to disprove this. Nobody needs that guy as his or her most famous relative. Yeah, that's yeah. I would. I think that's a worthy endeavor to spend your life trying to disprove your

relationship. Like if you're into it for that reason, if you're like, yeah, that's fair. You know, I don't think yeah, half though, if you just you work so hard at it all your life and you just never do, you know, you go to the genealogy convention and there's like a real sad group of guys. They are not tailgating. Those are the Hitler guys. This one goes one of my husband's however, great, great, great, great grandfathers was a Dutch slave trader to Brazil. There are several instances of my own family tree of slaves being left

to family members and wills. What was interesting where my great, great, great grandfather left a female slave to his niece with the contingency that she'd be given a room in the house with her own bed and given her own garden blot. So she was at least somewhat taken. Oh, come on now. This guy like, Hey, listen, it was kind of cool to find out that my slave owning relatives were a little bit nice to the slaves. Yeah. Look, they gave her own, it's an old little room that you could go in and fuck her whenever you wanted.

Yeah. It was her own little room with a special locking mechanism on it. Yeah. It was, they were, they were, hey, they were some of the good ones, I guess. Safe to say. Yeah. That's's I would just be sticking right out Like I wouldn't be I would say hey listen, man. That's a tough I'm really I don't I'm not proud of that aspect of it. I I'm not gonna try to excuse

Well for that slave lady this guy replies to this person goes it is what it is I have a neighbor suspected of murder and another one involved in human trafficking migrant workers still have to live with them, but it's none of my business. Wait, what? Sorry. Who is that? It's not your business, but you can also care a little bit about the human trafficking. Right? Those are two things I would care about. Can you say that again? I think I'm reading it. It is what it is. I have a neighbor suspected of murder and another one involved in human human trafficking migrant workers still have to live with them, but it's not my business. But the neighbors like you're saying these, so these are people that you don't relate

to. These are just the people that live near him. He's just saying like, what are you going to do? Look, what are you going to do? The guy in four, I might've killed somebody. I mean, what are you, you know, or the circumstances of the killing? I would, I would want to know, you know what I mean? Cause I would want to know from my own safety, what are the circumstances? Was this like, you know what I mean? Was this like business thing or am I in danger? And then the, yeah, the trafficking, the trafficking, human trafficking. I would, I don't know.

I guess I don't know what I would do in that situation. Well, you know, one of the things that is your business is you live in a really fucking terrible neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is like there is nothing similar to living next next to a murderer and a human trafficker to a guy being very distantly related to Hitler.

Totally different. I had the neighbor I grew up with did go to jail for murder later on. Like when he was we were the same age and we went to school and he went to he went to jail for murder and then he got his conviction overturned and he got released because he, he, uh, no, I don't think, I don't think so. You are released because it was, it was because it was in self-defense. The killing was in self-defense. Someone attacked him with a knife and then he disarmed the person with a knife and killed

the person. And yeah. Yeah. And so I think he rightfully got released, But yeah, it was, it was always a little something interesting about that guy. I remember in drama class, his name was Josh. I remember in drama class, we had the talent show where we could all do our talents. And we had this really freewheeling drama teacher who was like, you can do whatever you know what I mean? Like, and his talent was taking pain. That's a good time to actually. I'm not. I'm not joking.

I'm not making this up. This sounds like I'm making it up. But he literally stood out on the stage and people threw chairs at his back. And that was his talent. Miss Pay is free. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah. And that was his talent miss pay this free Wait a minute. Yeah, and then this guy Took a knife from someone and are you putting this together? He was like, yeah, you can stab me. Oh, yeah I never paying you have yeah

He was no listen if you read the whole story this guy he was This guy was bullying this other guy that I knew the guy who is I don't want to get into it, but this little guy named Christian, he the guy had knocked him unconscious already and was attacking. So this was like a real, you know, you can read all about it. I'll drop the link in the description of the episode. No, you won't. Huck Dog says, yeah, I found out through my grandfather that I'm related to Andrew Johnson, but through my grandmother, I'm related to Susan B. Anthony. So that's good. Then it gets a reply. Susan B. Anthony was racist. So not a lot better than Johnson, I'm afraid. Oh, I'm sorry to say some of your ancestors, a little problematic. That is a big issue with going back in your family tree is like a lot of them are going to have been a little racist. If you go back far, you're going to find some racists.

Some of them are going to be, dare I say sexist. Here's a good one. Here's a good one. I'm a fourth cousin to Dolly Parton and a fifth cousin once removed to Jim Bob Duggar. More instantly related to Jim Bob Duggar. Is that the? It's the quiver. He's a bad guy. The quiverful people on the TV. That's the one that they have all the bad one. Yeah, that's real bad. And he's like, but they had like a show on like a like one of those.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll see. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because more distantly related to Greg Allman, Barbara Bush, Margaret Atwood and Kristen Wigg related to both George Bush's and Barack Obama. December George Bush's. And I look I got the older Bush, but I dodged a bullet on the younger. God damn it.

Yeah. I asked him why not name the other Almond Brothers to also my wife. Hey, hey, hey, Jeb catching some shade as well. No Jeff. Shout out. I love being related to both George Bush's and Barack Obama and descended from Mary boy Bolian through at least two lines of my family.

Uh, Opie says minor also 99% farmers, nobility, and this odd, very distant relationship to one well-known dictator, which is Hitler. Hey, most likely. But who knows? There was some other dictators, Paul pod. Anybody? This guy does say, ha ha. If you think about it, a lot of 20th century dictators came from very humble origins.

So in a way, it's not even that surprising. If you look at it this way, I say it all the time. They're, they're working class heroes. I've always worked hard. I don't agree with their politics, but they are working class. And this person goes, I think now Mussolini and Pol Pot were all teachers to guess some kids really drive you nuts in that. Oh, come on.

That's that's dark humor. That's next guy goes. I have Hitler and Stalin. Oh, yeah. Nice. I didn't even know they hooked up, but that's fucking great. This guy's great. This guy's great. You got 16 million people are descended from Genghis Khan, the original Mongolian Hitler.

Don't let it bother you. OK. Yeah. Like isn't like like so many people are related to Khan. Like Genghis Khan, because I think he went around doing it a lot Yeah, he was he was like the number one rapist of all time. Yeah He was yeah, he was doing it a lot the bad thing a lot. He was a bad guy overall But I guess he was a warrior. So maybe some of these real, you know, like I wonder how they would react to Genghis Khan. Would that be positive in this world or a negative? Did you, this person says regardless really horse guy. Yeah. He's good on the horse. He's great

on a horse. This guy says, regardless of what he did, I still think it's pretty cool. There you go. Okay. So, so there it's cool just because it's like he's a celebrity still. You know what I mean? He still is like a big name, even if he's a considered bad guy. I think I'm understanding now, Brian, how these people are not nice and cool. These types of people, the ones who are playing this thing, like what you're talking was like, I got like a fucking fifth wave, Kristen Wiig and fucking Paul Pot. Like, you know, they're like, they're like, they're like rushing to the form. I'm related to Vlad the Impaler.

Yeah. I'm going at all these numbers like I got Dolly to sixth degree and like, you know, like just all this fucking shit like that's so much different. Yeah, it's so much different than like, hey, I'm going to go find dad's second cousin and yeah, talk to him about what grandpa fucking Stewart was really like that fucking nice. And it's a little corny and but it's nice, you know, this one's weird because it says, are you rich?

Like, I don't know. He was because he stole. He took everything. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever I think of Hitler's heirs, I think, man, you guys, you guys are loaded. Like, so much good.

Holy shit. Lucky. are loaded like so much good shit lucky damn you grew up rich on so easy growing up dude this person on another thread says just found out I was related to Ragnar Lothbrok. I don't know who that is. Is that that's a Viking. He's a Viking because after doing some digging, I found out I was related to Ragnar Lothbrok. Never knew I was Swedish or Danish and all that.

Just Scottish and Irish, but still really cool. I thought I'd share before I went to bed. Next person reprising because we're not even sure if Ragnar was a real person. So it's good to see that because he's he's one of the main characters in all those Viking shows. I didn't even know that. Oh, like Viking guy. Oh, so is that is a person maybe doing a joke?

Like there's a chance maybe some of these people are in here doing a joke. I don't think this guy's doing a joke because he does some responding here. Oh, he does. He goes, I'm related to Gargamel and you can't tell me I'm not. Yeah. OK, that would be cool. Get some of that money. Oh, Gargamel was loaded. Because, well, I did.

Well, I did so much research all the way from Robert Bruce and David the first. I am so supposedly related to something, something, something of the nine hostages, whatever that meant. Um, um, if he was real, I can say the same. I can trace directly to Ivar. So this guy is like agreeing with them. Hey, if he was real, I would be related to him. Yeah. In theory, if this fictitious character existed, he would be in my bloodline. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the guy goes, if he was real, I could say the same. I can trace directly to Ivar or I'm are the boneless grandson. I'm the bonus. See these sound like I think he's doing. These sound like characters from a TV show. I think they are characters from a TV show. Chris, I think they're characters that people believe are real people because they're watching a TV show. Another guy.

Another guy's going to come in and go. Yeah, if Hitler was real, I'd be related to him too. That would be scary. I wouldn't like that. He this guy goes. I doubt you're related to Robert the Bruce family history is a famous people back to the 14th century or fictionalized even during the lifetime of the actual person.

It's a way of legitimizing power source. I'm a medieval historian with an actual degree in medieval history. And I've also studied medieval prosop, prosopography, which is the relationships between families and individuals going back to ancient Rome. And then the OP responds and goes, I'm related to Robert Bruce. I have some documents. He's got documentation. So, hey, take your degrees and shove it back. This guy's got a piece of paper that says he's related to Robert the Bruce. So that's one of the things that they generally they love to do. So we got to go to Trustpilot because you know, you ever been to Trustpilot before Dave?

No, I don't even know what it is. Oh, wow. Okay. So you're not into reviewing products, I guess it's the number one website number one website for reviewing products. Actually, the guys are we did a product launch a while ago and it's on the guy. The guys are he's on Trustpilot and the reviews are not good. We have a lot of very negative reviews from people. A lot of people who are very upset with that.

It's our it's now if you go to Trustp review the guys, or you give us a bad review, we're gonna start reading them on bonus shows. Well, yeah, and we've- and there's already plenty to read, don't worry. This guy is reviewing 23andMe and he gave it one star, and he was like, it took so long to receive- receive results. It took so long to receive results. I'm now able to underst- I'm not able to understand most of what is presented. The push to buy more services is way too much total turnoff.

I have one family match, but many of my blood relatives are using 23 and me based on matches on ancestry.com. These are unmistakably blood relatives. I've heard that the company is being sold. There's no guarantee that my data won't be thrown to the black market. Yes. Okay. The black market is a weird one.

Oh, yeah. It's going straight on to the black market. It's the mob is all about getting all the genealogy. They want to make sure that's important to the mob. The genealogy is important to the mob because they got to know who's fully blooded Italian. You know what I mean? is important to them because they got to know who's fully blooded Italian. You know what I mean? There's no care like I love the idea of him. He probably is like what if what

if they use that DNA to make another me and then he replaces me at work and then I'm all fuck from now on like that's a possibility because there's no guarantee that my data won't be thrown to the black market. I learned this right after I submitted my sample. I reached out but not get a satisfactory response. That's brutal. He had just, he clicked it and then boom,

this pop-up was just like, you know, they can get your data and he's just like, oh fuck, like he tried to claw it back too late. This person says not accurate one star. I did not see much accuracy at all in the testing. I know I have Asian ancestors, but genetic testing said 0% of Asian background. Now that's going to be the main issue with 23 and me to these people is that like they have a belief, they have a bar, what they are, and they find out that they're not. And look, I don't know

what, what the accuracy or any of that. I'm not trying to like defend 23 and me. I do think I trust them more than my dad that said I'm related to George Washington. You know, I think they're working with like a better system than he is. Perhaps I, I, I do feel like, yeah, there's it, it's hard, like a crisis of identity or whatever, to like, you know, if you've seen yourself as one way, like I was talking about earlier, the other side of it, like, yeah, it's probably pretty hard to be like, oh, you're not. I'm not Asian. You're not an Asian person. Right. That's how I've seen myself.

That's how I identify. But I'm not that way. That would kind of fuck me up. I think, you know, it doesn't make a difference, though. If like, say you do that and and and it's like, well, you're Hungarian, not English. Yeah. But your people, whatever the ancestors left Hungary in like the year 1200 and went to with some conquering people, went to England and then lived there for centuries. Aren't you English at that point? Well, what's the fucking difference? I guess. Yeah, that's what I guess.

Yeah. Well, I did. States is like, I'm just the American, I guess. Like, I don't think any of that matters. I think it's funny to be like, oh, I'm Irish. Ireland's a country like, yeah, I guess like there's there's a certain like people don't look at it that way. I think that people really do like the Hitler guy. They really just want to like, these are guys that want to tell you about their boring shit at a party.

You know, they probably have no lives on this world. And so they're trying to find some interesting lives to make themselves more interesting to at a party and no one cares That's why no one wants to talk to them yet everybody and yet everyone will keeps giving a hard time to my friend Rachel Rachel Dolezal Well, I'd love to see her family tree I know what people are gonna say people that are into genealogy, they're going to be like, oh, but you collect Legos. There's a Lego family tree that I could buy now.

So I think I don't even know if anyone was saying that. I think you said it to yourself to rile yourself up to buy the Lego set that you wanted to buy anyways. That's what it feels like. I mean, I don't think anyone was saying,, yeah, you like G. I like genealogy Well, you like Legos. I don't think they're really always say it that's Every person that listens to this show. Yeah, it's like Oh Brian likes Legos Episode a hardcore like this guy likes Lego. Hold the fuck on Legos are awesome. It is meditative. It is

Really? I like when my kids started doing Legos. I would like your kid Just I'm good. Oh, he would leave and I'd be doing I'd be like, yeah Yeah, but you but you but you're doing it with you know, what your kid and you bought it for your young kid I bought some for young people for Christmas, but I'm not I'm not making whatever he does, whatever he does, whatever he wants to do. And that was really nice of you, David. The first guest who's ever done that, like everyone else is just like, what the fuck is wrong? What's going on with all those Legos behind you?

And they're all like kind of weirded out by it. But it's just the fact that it is he kind of doesn't have a leg to stand on. And a lot of the arguments, you'll say like, this is really fucking stupid. And then he's got all these Legos mind of it. It's kind of like, well, I mean, yeah, it's like a city behind him. But look, I really think that it's I think it's really good for your brain. I think it's very meditative. I really do. Yeah. I mean, I think probably there is an aspect of it that would be,

you know, the monotony of it. I guess, yeah. Building of it. Yeah. I guess the amount of money I spend on that's where that's a big issue. Now, that's where it's fucked, because those things are so fucking expensive. I know it's insane. So you are happy that you can just get a puzzle. It's so cool, though. Like I do, he tries to get puzzles, too.

He's tried to do that. It doesn't. I try to do models to like model cars. No price. It's the Legos. It's the Legos that do it for him. But he spends an outrageous amount. He'll spend. He's bought a thousand dollars set before.

No, 750. So what? And that was a thousand Canadian easy. Sure. Was it like Hitler's Wonderland? Like what was the Titanic? Yeah, it wasn't even good to build either. It's terrible.

Is that the thing that you learn about it, Dave? It was the Titanic. Yeah. It wasn't even good to build either. It's terrible. That was the real problem. Is that the thing that you learn about it, Dave? There's different things that look really nice after, which makes sense. Some of them are fun to build, whereas some of them is the same thing over and over and over again. It gets really boring to build.

So yeah, I think probably, you did the research though, right, Brian? You knew that it wasn't the best. No, I didn't actually do the research. Well, the first I don't research a lot, but the first the first thing I saw when I started collecting Legos is a seven hundred and fifty dollars set. And I was like, you know what, if I ever get to a place in my life, I'm going to four or seven hundred and fifty dollars.

I got to have a dream, man. Then I got to have a dream. That is so people. $750. I don't have a dream man. Thank that. I have a dream that is Like I'm gonna I'm gonna like get as many people as it can Off the streets and into homes and other people like I'm gonna cure cancer and you're like, I'm gonna build a big ship out of plastic Get a Lego set if I I just love the idea of you sitting there just looking at kind of one day baby one day you're gonna be mine and, you know, that's very cool, but like, yeah, just, I don't know. It just, it feels like it is. Oh,

it's too much. The cost of the Lego is well, now I'm going to buy the Millennium Falcon. I've decided how much, 850, but God, a daughter in college. Is that yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

How does she feel about this? She thinks like I could lie. I mean, she gets my gifts. You get gifts with purchase when you buy Legos and she gets those and she's like, oh, these are nice. They're like small sets. They don't take a lot of time to build. They're too small for me to tell you the truth.

Like I'd rather have a large set like the Millennium Falcon. That's $850. But what I did was and by this time this comes out, I'm probably building it. What it did was I asked for Lego gift cards for Christmas. And then I also bought everybody in my life. Legos because they had two times Lego VIP points right around Christmas. So like everybody in my life is getting Legos for Christmas, but none of them

like like none of them like Legos Dave, in case you're wondering none of them have any interest in them at all. They're all adults. They all have like a family there. They have not interested. They like them. Everybody likes them. This guy. This is really strange. This is one of the strangest. Trust pilot reviews we've ever read and we've read some weird one. This one really is strange. One star cowboy customer service customer service non-existent a year ago. I tried to close my account and get them to delete all the data.

This hasn't happened. They're useless at answering emails. You just don't keep a conversation going and get passed off to another agent. I'm still trying to close my account. Cowboys. So, um, so he's why he's calling them cowboys. Well, you might be a cat. You might be a kind of out on the range or whatever. I might be how he how he addresses everyone.

But it does feel like he's struggling to. And he did he. Sorry, did I catch that? Did he want them to stay on the phone with them longer? He wants to he wants a back and forth and a resolution to essentially deleting. It's not that he wants to delete all of his the information they have, which is not what the services they're not. Oh, so you never do that.

Nobody will sell. He wants to take himself off of 23 and his database. Get all of his data out of there. Yeah, because he read about it and he's like, oh God, I come a criminal or whatever. Like he like he's a horse. This is my mom did this. God, my I come a criminal or whatever. Like he like he's a. But this is my my mom did this. So my mom is a woman who won't even like put credit cards online.

Like she'll buy nothing online. She's like, I don't trust them. And then she's like, I did 23 and me and we're like, what the fuck? That is good. I don't trust them. I'll give them my DNA. And she just like check the box and said they couldn't use it for anything. You're just like, Oh my God.

Well, this person is a valued customer. Given one review, it's one star. And it says I paid for the most expensive set. So, uh, I paid for the most expensive set. So I could see everything. And I waited over six months for results before having to do the test again. I didn't even give me everything. The first one was supposed to give me test is trash. So listen,

we all learn about we all learn about things, but you got to buy the most expensive. Like if there's five plans, if there's three plans, you got to get the most expensive one or there's no, if you're going to do it, just do it all the way. Right? No, please do not. Please do not reinforce this notion in his mind and make him feel like it's good to buy the most expensive version of every single thing. He's always seeking out that like affirmation people. So you're like, you'll set it up in that way where it's very agreeable.

And then really he's like talking. He will buy the most expensive version of anything ever. Dave, am I, am I in the middle of an intervention? Oh no, it's fine. It makes sense. What I'm saying makes sense. They don't make the most when we're talking about this, they don't make the most expensive thing so that you can do the cheapest thing. You know what I mean? They make the most specific genealogy, right? That's what you mean. Like, take the Titanic out of it and the Millennial Falcon. Like, in this version, why would you do a genealogy check

that just goes back like three generations or whatever you would want to do the whole thing? I agree. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. That is true. And this instance is probably not that much. I'd have to see the price points and like what expensive it

is expensive. I think I've seen people say they spent $300. See, that's I think what they do to you though. It's like I would have to do a bit of research on it because if you can get the information that you need, maybe the higher one is just for people with that mindset of like, well, I need to do the comprehensive one and they just charge so much for it, you know? But yeah, I would agree that you want to get all the information if you're doing something like this. Yeah.

It's interesting too because like, this is okay, so it's 55% off right now if you're looking something like this. Yeah. It's interesting too because like this is okay. So it's 55% off right now if you're looking to get it done. Oh, it's Cyber Monday, the extended Cyber Monday. Oh my God. Cyber Monday is going for two months now, holy shit. The company that's going out of business that the entire board just all of a sudden quit on

because they're doing something clearly disastrously immoral is having a sale. Yeah, 55% off. $49 right now for one of their sets, but like it says it's one of those that's the internet like the evil companies that will not tell you how much something costs until you fill out like all the forms in the world. And then by the time you're at the end, you're like, you know what?

I mean, I've signed, I signed up for this thing once I was having a crisis in my life, um, where I felt insanely fat and I was like, okay, I'm going to get my shit together. So I went on this website called new. Oh yeah. Did you go there by accident because you forgot to finish the word new metal one time? It's not spelled that way.

First of all, and it would be cool if I found out I was related to corn. The band. If you're related to the monkey, I mean, honestly, I think we all kind of we all kind of evolved from the monkey. If you ask honestly, I think we all kind of we all kind of evolved from the monkey. If you ask me, I would love to like I sent Chris recently a list of people that I really want on the show. Yeah. The number one was violent, Jay, violent, Jay. Like I'm like, hey, if you're like, look at getting a guess, like reach out to someone who would be the people that you would really want to get

like big name people if you had like your dream or whatever. And he came back with violent J. Sorry, I have dreams. Wait, I just look at 23 to me. Yeah. The first level is $49. This is on sale. The second level 99, then 129 and then 499. It says first year membership is basically $1000 a year for if

you're not have a special. What the fuck is that? What are you doing? What are you doing? I thought it was a one off. I thought you just set your skin and then you're like, what are they doing? That's what that's right. I don't think I found out. So something that I

did find out is that it is kind of like a forum in a way. So your stuff is up there. You can make it private. But from what I could gather, your stuff is up there and people can look at it. And then it makes connections. So, uh, and like, apparently they have these hints on it where they'll hint that you might be related to somebody and you have to pay money. No, find out if you're related to the person. Oh, this was like, this is like, yeah, the dating app shit is like, there's some people behind this fucking door who might want to kiss you once on the lips.

door who might want to kiss you once on the lips. $800. It says Hitler. I would be great. You're my ancestry. And it's like, no, I'm actually the new Hitler. So I did my ancestry and I'm the new. So I added everything that you can get to Dave. OK, me plus total health membership, 23 of me premium health membership,

health and ancestry service, ancestry service, subtotal one thousand five hundred and eighty five dollars. Oh, my God. Eight hundred and nine dollars. Oh, well, I was worried at the beginning, but I didn't realize how much I saved. It's quite a high number. And then you're a bargain. Your total is seven hundred and seventy six dollars. OK. OK.

You know, it's funny about that is that they have people give this out as a gift. Like it's framed as your grandma as a gift. And then your grandma does. She's excited. She's like, oh, I love finding out I'm Irish or whatever. And she does it. She's excited. She's like, Oh, I love finding out I'm Irish or whatever. And she does it. She's excited. She goes onto the website. And as I started to read more reviews, I started to notice there

were a lot of like older people that are like, I didn't tell them to charge me and they charged me 700. I you're like, Oh my God, this is the most it was. It's one of the most evil. And listen, we did Airbnb guys. We hate it. and they charged me 700. I you're like, oh my God, this is the most it was. It's one of the most evil. And listen, we did Airbnb guys. We know. Yeah.

But this is second to Airbnb. Hey, grandma, I got it. I got a gift for you, grandma. Do you want it's cost $700 and it allows you to fumble around and try to figure out how to make your password for two months and then get now, you know, now you're on the street because it kept reappearing charge every month is really evil.

I'm glad they're like going under or whatever. If this is the type of shit they're doing, because this is like, yeah, this is that same type of shit. It like reminds me of the people like we can talk to your loved one. It's like one step away from, you know, we can talk to your dead loved ones. Or I'm like a medium. It's like, well, these, you know, we can't talk to your loved one. It's like one step away from, you know, we can talk to your dead loved ones or whatever. I'm like a medium. It's like, well, these, you know, we can't talk to them, but I can tell you who they are. If you give me $700 and like, ah, I hate these people. It also preys on your possible health issues. So like, well, yeah, Alzheimer's and all that shit. Like, you're coded for that. Like it's bad. This is a bad company, man.

Yeah, you don't even because because like, you know, I didn't really realize how much it costs or anything like that. And I was going on, oh, it's evil because they work with the police without your permission or whatever. It's kind of like the ring cameras. That's what I thought was evil because you see the, you see the box at a store and it says 49 99 and it's like, give it as a gift. It's like, that's, I think like, even if I go to the store and I buy the 49 99 kit and I do it and they try to upsell me, it's

like, well, I kind of figured they were going to do that. Everybody on the Internet does that. Like all the companies that you deal with, like, I mean, we're dealing with with Shopify right now, and they're holding on to money that we made and they're not letting us like pay our vendors or like sell anything. And it's like you start to ask them why they don't even really fucking tell you. So they're just like holding on to this money that you have to try to jump through hoops and figure out how to get your hands on it. And that's what a lot of these companies are just like, sign up with us.

This is the fucking easiest shit in the world. You know what? Like, that's what this is. This is so easy. You spit in a fucking tube and you mail it to us and then, you know, we'll get a hold of you. And then like as you're filling out your log in information, your registration information, it's like asking you questions about, oh, it's almost like, what would you pay to do this?

And it only gives you really I love. My favorite thing is when they have packages on a site and the most expensive one is highlighted and it says best value. Yeah. Go to the pay. Hey, look, the most expensive one's the best, obviously. I mean, we go over giving you. We do hope that the merch did get out for Christmas.

But if it did not, you just found out why. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This guy goes, that holding on the money thing is such an old scam. When I started in comedy, there was a guy who ran a bunch of like single rooms around the Bay Area and you would go do his run and then he wouldn't pay you for four months.

And after a while, I realized, oh, that guy just lives on money. He doesn't have. Yes. He's not making any money. And all he is, he's getting money from these people, these clubs, and then he he pays his rent. He does everything else. And then four months later, he gets the money for the next gigs. And so he's just living this he's in this little zone.

Dave, did you did you used to tread the boards? I didn't know that. Very, very cool. OK, you know what? We can all agree that the check drop was a nightmare. Oh, the check drop. Oh, I would I could start I could write a book on the check. I wrote a book on the check drop. Didn't get picked up by anybody. You know, you do hear like, that's one of the things I've heard about, like freelance work on, on, online, like the people, you know, the right for website and the people you I've

heard it like it's the same way with like TV and stuff is like, they're not in any rush to pay you. And when I started to fucking like, when I started to deal with the Shopify thing, it's like I'm in a rush to pay this guy need because I don't want to be that person. So you're just like you're on with tech support and they're fucking telling you all kinds of stuff. You don't know. So we have to pay him too because he has to buy the shirts. It's not even just a matter of being like that guy who's like, Oh, we're holding up like this. Like he has to buy the shirts to print them, you know?

So yeah, that's true. So yeah. So this guy goes sick of stupid mistakes and family trees. Try contacting the offenders. It works. What offender is what just happened? Where? So he said, we've got your name now.

Yeah, we have to. You have to. You have to be on it. This guy goes, I was so tired of family trees that would show my second great grandmother with the wrong name. It was badly transcribed in exactly one document and I have 17 sources including our obituary and death certificate to say otherwise. So last week I nicely shot a message to one of the people whose family tree kept coming up as a quote hint. That's the hint thing on ancestry is like, here's a hint. This guy might be related to you.

And then I think you got to pay. And he goes, I laid out the facts, asked if she would like more info and then signed off and paid off. Not only did she fix her tree and thank me, but six or seven other trees are now connected. Correct. Oh, fuck. It's beautiful how that can happen. Yeah. Healing it. Nature is healing and you fix what spreads to the other trees.

I like this person. I had someone tell me I was wrong on my tree about my great grandma who was still alive. This lady kept saying my grandma didn't exist because her mom didn't recognize her name as one of her cousins from that line. She very much existed. I tried telling her and gave her my grandma's phone number, but she's 100% convinced. I mean, hey, listen, could be any lady could be any.

You're playing a game on me. Oh, I've seen you can hire a voice actor. Easily do something like this. I need a video of an older lady holding up a sign that says the date and saying, but even that, but even that, if you could just, it could be anybody. I don't know how you could ever really prove this. I guess with some sort of DNA test perhaps. Isn't that what this person goes, it's definitely odd and hard to figure out the aim of some tree owners. I had another family researcher asked me to look at his tree, which was a collaborative effort of he and his relatives along with kudos. I mentioned that the parentage they showed for one person had been disproven. His response. Yes, we know. But if we change it, it will change a lot of other stuff in our tree.

And we like it the way it is. Yeah. It tells a good story. It tells a good story right now. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

You obviously we do cite the who cares defense quite a bit around here. And I think it's accurate. Like who really cares at the end of the day. But there's some obvious genealogy purists out there who would hate to see something like this. And it would say like, Oh, it messes up a bunch of stuff. Well, yeah, then you fix it and make it right and spend more time on this thing looking for fucking documents is

what you need. documents were referring to my grandma's last name being spelled like this. That's a crazy like you don't see that as a crazy thing to say. It's crazy. Oh, I mean, crazy. It's it's it's that's actually part of like like is it just misspelled on a document or is it misspelled? Is it a physical document or do they misspell it on the site? I think yes.

On the site, I believe they had a certain document where her name was spelled wrong. Okay, then that then that's history. Like that's that's the history. What happened? Whatever she lived through that, you know what I mean? Like document in her name. And so that's actually a change that I don't think you'd go back and fix because that's

what it is now. Like it got fucked up. It's part of the history of whatever is moving forward. Well, this this person goes, I'm still dealing with one lady that's pissing me the fuck off. It's my second my two-time great grandfather's brother in St. Louis. I have on and test the ancestry probably 30 gallery image of

documentation is proving who he is. This woman has one and it's from find a grave. She has three different people rolled into one. I contact her and told her, and she said, I found the documentation. I'm fine to graven. I am right. If you need help with your own tree, feel free to contact me. That's brutal.

And then he goes, uh, what's worse is that I'm in contact with another person up here in Chicago who is a professional genealogist and the third family member she's got confused with is her great great grandfather. She tried to correct her and got the same response. And to top it off, there were about 20 lemmings following her stupid wrong tree. Several have taken the DNA tests or a match of me. I give up. Oh, fuck. He's got a following. That's true. That's good. That is good.

So there's a chance. There's a chance she could change her family. Hold on. I am so excited right now because we could have stumbled across the greatest troll possibility on the Internet. Oh, you can roll in and just start making shit up. Blowing this whole fucking thing up. You can just start forging documents like is there any legal ramifications

for doing it? You know what I mean? If fucking everything up, basically, you're just fucking everything up. Basically, we're just fucking everything up. Yeah, there's no legal ramifications. You just start forging old documents and producing them to say that like, Oh, actually, no, that's not your mom. It's Hitler. Yeah, your mom was Adolf Hitler? Your mom was Adolf Hitler. This guy goes, I've encountered similar situations, someone making claims that are easily proven wrong, who becomes self-righteous

tyrants when anyone states otherwise. I had no interest in it's the Internet. Yeah. She goes or he I can't tell. I had no interest in crossing swords with them. They're funny. He is probably maybe I had no interest in crossing swords with them. They're free to do as they wish. Neither will I give into their demand that I buy into their BS and alter my findings to comply with theirs.

And finally, the last person. This is the worst thing you can call somebody. And he goes, well, in my experience, you may rarely get a positive response from some of them. But since the vast majority copied someone else's work to begin with, the error is simply taken on a life of its own. For so many genealogy is a passing fad. The tree is created and lives on without any further input from the creator. And then in parentheses, he says, copyists. Copyists. Yeah, because people will copy other trees as like a quick way to get their tree

done. They want their tree done. And generally, I think also again, want to give it as a gift. I always write that what it's going and they can't get it done. You know, because it's a lot of work. It's like tons and tons of work. And like some of it involves waiting for people to get back to you and stuff like that. So you're not in control of all of it. So yeah, it could take a long, long time to do that. Yeah. It's like one of those gifts where you're like, this is a great gift I'm going to give to someone. And then you're like, Oh, what the fuck have I done to myself here? And

then, and then you just like, I'll just make up. I don't understand. I don't know that I understand this world fully and sort of what's going on. And I know that I have decided that there's like I said before, there's two types to me. And one type is really sweet and wholesome. And the other type is really weird and annoying. Yeah. Yeah. There's normal people and not normal people.

I mean, that's what this comes down to. There's guys who just have are way too into this. Right. I mean, that's that's what this comes down to. There's guys who just have our way too into this Right. That's the you know, the classic guys thing Is that like if you're one type of guy you're weird if you're several types of guy or you're normal because normal people have Interest in several things. Yeah, they don't go fully in like trying Yeah You got to have the other interest if you lose the other interest and you become singularly focused on anything, no matter what it is in this world, it will turn you into a weird person.

So you guys are saying you have more than one interest. Like if you're into fantasy football, you also should have like a cream pie room or your fucking guy's wife upstairs. Yeah. I mean, you should have a cry. You take this one. Brian's. Well, I could play. Hang on. I'll take the first. I played some fantasy football. Brian, you take the cream pie. You take the second. Who did the pie, Chris? Well, listen, I'm cream pie.

Well, listen, I got a son. So is that how you and Ariel got together? Stop it. Stop it. You guys were doing fantasy football and cream pie. No, absolutely not. I have this. This shows a clean show, Chris. This. This is this.

Yeah, listen, Dave, sorry that we didn't. I know before Dave was really hoping to get into some swinger stuff. We didn't. Sorry, We didn't talk about it. I really expected to. I expected to. I thought we were going to. I thought because I when I listen to this show, there's often some creepy shit. There was no creepy shit.

It was really, really normal this time. And I'm not really sure why. Do you want to do you want to talk a little bit about Brian having sex with this guy's girlfriend while he waited outside in sort of that's what kind of got Brian into the lifestyle from an early night. First of all was not in a lifestyle. He wasn't waiting outside. He was getting held back trying to get into the room. He was being held by my brother. By yeah, who is yeah, it was kind of porno Sean and porno

Sean was there and if porno Sean's holding you back you're not you know Not going for this guy. I knew toughest guy in town. It's Toughest guy in Roefort, but yeah Dave what what city do you live in? I live Glendale, California basically so Ryan what's the closest club lifestyle club to him? I don't think there is an L.A. one. Yeah, it's really weird. Actually, it's on.

I swear to you, it's not like it's really thing in Los Angeles, California. It's a rich thing in Florida. One. There's those weird rich people things where the guy is like, I'm a sex guru. You can pay me 500,000. Oh, yeah.

There's an old. Oh, yeah. I mean, so you don't come too fast or something. Yeah, there's no sleazy. Like there's none of the stuff we usually look at is sleazy and gross. I don't think that style of club would exist in L.A. Just because it's gross and right. There's a lot of gross stuff in L.A.

There is. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. I don't think we found one, at least. It's like like Tom and Bunny are our friends have never gone to that one in L.A. I don't think they're Trump people, but maybe in the Valley, maybe in the Valley. I don't know. Yeah. I'll be able to be Orange County. I mean, yeah, there's got to be.

I mean, people are out there s and an effing no doubt about it and engaged in lifestyle and stuff. I wonder if they're just, there's so many of those big mansions out there too. Maybe they're just all doing it in a home games. There's definitely a ton of sex parties that I've heard of, but they're all, a lot of them are like Hollywood, you know, I mean, I've heard of some of them in the news too, and they sound like they're not so good to be on. Yeah, I found it. I found it. It's weird, though. It's called Club Joy and it's spelled J.O.I. Jack off instructional.

That's what it's a good club. Yeah. Oh, there's someone Jack. Their site's really nice. I'll show you guys real quick before we get out of here. You know, I learned about the pineapples because of you guys. Yeah, I we've been spreading that around. It's it's it's good, I learned about the pineapples because of you guys. Yeah, I we've been spreading that around. It's it's it's good, I guess.

It's good. No, it's not. I had I'm going to go to my mailbox after this. There's going to be 17 pineapple things. Yeah. People do a lot of stuff with pineapples on it. Yeah, but I like the Santa Claus hat on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Does it have anything specific rules or anything like that? Well, we know the rules.

I think we have to. Let me look, I'll find it. Membership. Is there a single guy? How are you? Oh, yeah. Are you married? Are you married? Yeah, I'm married with a kid. Yeah. Married his kid. OK.

It's lucky in the lifestyle, though. They hate single guys. Yeah. Yeah, they don't with a kid. Yeah, marriage is kid. Okay. That's lucky in the lifestyle, though. They hate single guys. Yeah, they don't even have a single guy. They're probably not allowed. Yeah, you can't even sign up for it says you got a brower lady. Yeah, recurring monthly couple or lady three months. So, yeah, single guys are just they don't even bother. That's the way we like it.

Yeah, don't even mention them. Don't even make them feel like they exist. Even if they come onto the site and it says like single guys not allowed, they're like, oh, they mentioned us. Yeah, you know, it's like, don't even give them the fucking. Oh, here it is. Yeah, yeah. It's a new partner. You'll need to start with a new application. Membership is non-transfundable, transferable. Single ladies interest is always free with current membership. Create the free profile. If approved, you'll receive further instructions.

No membership for single gentlemen available at this time at this time and this time is ever. I don't know why they don't have a pin for them a pen for them. Like they do in some of the clubs. They have a separate bar for single guys to kind of sit in. Yeah, it's a pen. And then a couple can go into the room and be like, they're all, yeah. Oh my God. They come over like scurry over like little rats over to you. Like you got a block of cheese. You got to like even to get one, there'll be a bunch of other ones that will hang on to his legs and arms and stuff. And so when you try to pull him out, they'll try to like get out with him. So you gotta like shake them

all off so you can only get one. I would, I would say the funniest thing we found out was there was that swingers club that Tom and bunny toured, which on the Patreon, you can watch all the club tours. And I think they're all marked club tour. Uh, there was the one they went to where, first of all, you were allowed to be naked through the whole place. Cool. That's a very cool part of it. Yeah. But there was the one where if you're a single guy, a couple can come and grab you from the single by pit, single guy pen, and then they'll take you into the playroom. But when the couple leaves the playroom, you got to shoot the single guy

out of the playroom like they'll come and make them leave. Like they have a security guard for it specifically. They kind of hide in the shadow or whatever. I kind of like, you know, like, like, nice try. What do they always wear all black? All right, sir. I'm going to need you to put your dick away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do have a single guy hack though.

Is it's bring up picture of a woman and say your wife died and she really wants you to. Yeah. You're crying lifestyle. You're crying in the morning, but you're still are technically a single guy. I also have the one like, you know, you're on your phone and the lineup, you're like, honey, yeah, I'll be home soon. I, you know what I mean? Like you got a life. Honey, yeah, I'll be home soon. I know that you got a life. All right. That is genealogy guys.

Dave, anything to plug? Tell people where to find you. Oh, yeah. Just the dollop podcast in the pastimes podcast. That's that's all I got going on. I love the dollop. And I tell him, Dave, before we started the show that me and my wife listened to like 10 episodes in a row when we travel like anytime we're in the car driving. It's

great. Steven Seagal one was so good. Um, my favorites, the Seagals are my favorites. Yeah, those are great. We'll be back. We'll be back next week with rat pat guys. No, we're not talking about Frank Sinatra. We're talking about Tony Bishop and guys that want to be like Tony Bishop. Oh, kidding. And we're talking about guys that are due into the rat back. Yeah. Yeah. I know a guy like that. Oh, I know a guy who who set up his man cave. This guy doesn't do anything like he smokes and drinks,

but not in some fancy style. But he has pictures of the rat back all over the room. I'm like, what? All right, we'll see you next week. All right. Thanks, guys.