Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 109 - TooL Guys with Wolf Parade

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

We talked about everyone's favorite band TooL with Arlen and Dan from Wolf Parade. This podcast is in a 4/4 time signature. Does Maynard know the future? How do you introduce your romantic partner to TooL? Why does TooL hate Fresno? The Guysery opens again March 18th with Challenge Coins and T Shirts and Stickers! www.theguysery.com  There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

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there it is. There's the heads up. Go over to the guys re.com. Check out what we got going on and listen to this episode of guys. It's tool guys with Wolf Parade. Enjoy. Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys where I considered trying to sing like Maynard James Keenan, but as a guy that's not a big fan of Tool, the one thing that is very good of them is their singer. So I can't do it. And I would like to welcome Mr. A Perfect Circle, Chris James, hi. That's another band, right?

Did they like- Yeah, it's his band. It's more poppy. Oh, I see. Cause I've definitely heard of, I think I maybe have mentioned before, my older brother was a fan of Tool and A Perfect Circle. He liked both of them.

So I've heard both. I've heard both their music and I think I might like. What about Pussifer? I think I might like a perfect circle better. I think that might be true that I actually do like them better than Tool, but I have a very, very limited knowledge of it. So you can only goof on a band

by bringing another band on the show, as we've said. So we have Arlen and Dan from Wolf Parade hi guys what's up you guys tool fans either one of you a tool fan I was 15 and then it's not being a tool fan. I think I discovered more interesting music but same for me I pretended to like tool because there were a couple of girls in my high school were a little bit older than me that had anemia I think or maybe the one before it and I was like if they like tool and I pretend to like tool and I like music that's adjacent to tool already so it's not a stretch for me to pretend to like it.

Maybe they'll kiss me. And it's not like, and it's not so, it wasn't so bad too, because you listened to music that was sort of in that genre. It wasn't like, you could stand listening to it, or were you really putting yourself through it? No, you could stand it. No, I thought it was cool.

Yeah. Dan is the first guy that ever pretended to be into Tule for a woman. In the history of the world. Dan is the first guy that ever pretended to be into tool for a woman. Okay. I've like, like, uh, like a woman pretending to be into rush or guided by voices. You know? Yeah. Yeah. You're like, Oh, I guess if they, I mean, listen, they might not even like it. One thing I will say tool shirts are cool.

I think, I think I do like their shirts. You think they have, they have good designs you think I think so Yeah, yeah, I like the designs of their shirts and but like for me It came out when I was into you know what I was into at the time a new metal yeah, well actually I was more into like grunge and hip-hop and There was a short very short period of time where I was like a grunge guy Yeah, they're like a post grunge band like after you know Nirvana kind of ended and then it was like I remember listening to them and like Primus at the same time They kind of fit in just like, you know, kind of like tricky like Prague But kind of dark and weird, you know that real kind of like 80s 90s you know church of the

what's what's pork soda is that rocks it's a great album by i liked primus a lot like i've seen him a bunch i actually left my wife home pregnant to see private play prison fry in its entirety wife home pregnant to see Prada's play Frizzly Fry in its entirety. The day after I left her home pregnant to see the darkness, I went on like two days in a row. Imagine the conversation on the second concert. You know what I mean? Like he's already going the night before to see someone and then he's got to say, Oh honey. Just waking her up, waking your wife up at 2 30 a.m. Waking your pregnant wife up and being like, honey, wake up, wake up, wake up less.

In cherry was a race car driver played the most amazing. So usually, usually, usually it goes like this. But this time, this was so early in the guys are going to go around and play their whole album time. Yeah. And it was Frizzle fry and I'm such a huge fan of too many puppies. The song that just, I like felt like I had to be there. I like like four songs off that album, but I felt like I needed to be there. Like it was a historic event. And I always try to make it's hard. I always try to make

sure I'm going to like historic event concerts. You know what I mean? Like I saw what's hard. I always try to make sure I'm going to like historic event Concerts, you know what? I mean, like I saw what's not 99. Yeah, I saw Woodstock 99 I went to like I also do that with with like sports. I all go to rest sports wrestling I went to very important wrestling shows like I want to be in the building for like historically Significant. Yeah, I's I think that's quite normal. Yeah, that that's I think I guess it's it's kind of hard to know what is going to be a culturally significant show sometimes when it comes to like music, I guess. But sometimes it's not like, you know, like I guess a Woodstock 99 was going to be culturally significant, Chris. Yeah, I agree. And you could tell it would be in one way or the other.

You know what I mean? So I can get going to that one for sure. Yeah. So I know the funny thing about me going to Woodstock 99 is one of the main reasons I really went is because I watched Woodstock 94 on MTV like the whole time. It was kind of the first time I'd ever seen a festival or a concert or any sort of live event.

And I'll never the Nine Inch Nails set from what star 94 where they're throwing mud at the stage and they're throwing mud back out at the audience. One of the coolest things I've ever seen. That's really March of the Pigs era kind of. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I really, really expected Woodstock 99 to be that. And to tell you the truth,

people did throw mud at each other. But the thing was it didn't rain. And the mud was all by the porta-potties that they were throwing at each other. So you had to avoid that mud. Yeah, that was a different type of mud. Or yeah. Yeah, and I have to ask this because I've obviously, I'm not gonna make it weird

and say, I like you guys. I think you guys are great musicians and a great band. What was the first concert that you guys each went to? You probably answered it a million times, but I'm curious. What was yours, Roland? Well, my old man was like, used to do live sound. So I was going to concerts I think I saw like the nylons when I was like two years old

I want to say this before Arlen. I want to tell you the first concert I went to was so cool But now it's people are like, oh, that's uncool. The first show I ever saw was corn. Okay. And it was at a small venue. Well, okay, Dan, music hall. Tells this story. Like it's like music hall is like a what is it 12,000 cap venue. Yeah, it's fucking small for corn that is small for. Yeah, yeah. And they were opening for Megadeth there. Oh, well, that's a man that I fucking tricked myself into liking when I was a teenager. That guy, Dave Mustaine, man. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the metal years,

but all you need to know about Dave Mustaine is just when when he's reciting the lyrics to In My Darkest Hour, And it's such like proto incel shit. It's amazing. He is incredibly funny. Like I think, you know, people might remember Dave Mustaine getting into it with Men's Warehouse over a $90 gift card for one of his fucking tour managers. Like he's in a straight up fight with him.

But Dan, what was your first show? My first show was at the Duncan Community Center, which until very recently was home to the world's largest hockey stick and puck. Yeah, RIP. Yeah, RIP. It's so Canadian. Yeah, they didn't keep it up. So like they had to tear it down and I think Minnesota has a bigger stick and we tried

to keep it going for a while. But it was, there was a Canadian band called grapes of wrath the grapes of wrath who were like kind of I Would say like the direct to CBC version of REM, right? Yeah, I know it'd be hardcore Yeah, yeah, adult album, CanCon, like first wave CanCon. But they had Art Bergman, who's like a classic Canadian punk

rock guy who was in a band called The Young Canadians, who were amazing. He was opening up for them. And I was 13, and I took the librarian's daughter on a date to go see this show. And you were, did did you you had convinced her that you liked tool or I liked grapes of wrath so I went to the show and Birdman Art Bergman got up completely shithammered and just like

made fun of the audience which for I love that did a cover of the audience, which were, I love that. And did a cover of the grapes of wrath only hit like just very mean and sarcastic on acoustic guitar and then walked off stage. I saw, before we get into tool, I will say I saw death tones one time. Lead singer Chino. Yeah. Fucking hammered. He can like barely stand. It's one of my favorite concerts ever. He can like barely stand. It's one of my favorite concerts ever. He

can like barely stand up. And I think it's cause like they were opening or they were on a co-headlining tour with God smack. And they were kind of like, you know, deftones like always tries to keep themselves separate from that whole thing. And he was up there and he fucking weirdly saying straight out of Compton during one of their songs while they were at the band was playing the song And then he just started singing straight out of Compton And then he like he was cussing out the audience and stuff. It was so fucking weird, but it was so good It was amazing. Of course. I of course saw the I mean I saw the Brian Jones on massacre live a number of times

And if you have you seen the new dig the new extended version of dig Oh, I haven't I haven't actually I might just an Ohio thing I guess Many times they have told the story. I mean I saw him just in Vancouver alone There's like you can watch videos of it on YouTube still of him Storming off and refusing and saying that he had a bunch of skinheads waiting in the back for everybody. Oh man. I love that.

It was really, for no reason by the way, nobody was doing anything. He was like, everyone was just enjoying the show and cheering for him to play his song. So I feel like it was like something he was dealing with a personal issues at the time Good stage meltdowns are few and far between but when they happen and they're good, they're beautiful moments like I remember Years ago like maybe ten years ago That been deer hunter was playing and somebody kept kept shouting my Sharona, you know They're like cover my Sharona so Bradford played my Sharona for like half an hour I love it. I I think it's better than going to a good concert

In hindsight, I think like I don't know if at the time it always is like I think you know for me at least But it's always better for the story. I thought yeah, I saw dear hunter at Richards on Richards I just want to say which is my favorite music venue ever. All right. All right. P to Richards on Richards. I saw you guys play Richards on Richards. God damn it. No, not COVID. They fucking tore it down and condos condo. So there are condos next to it.

And they're like, you know what? The city needs one less music venue and we need to build the condo that's next to it. We need to copy paste that. Yeah that it was a horrible day for Vancouver we all now I have now I have to say this in Ohio the famous one of the famous metal venues which is the place where Dimebag Darrell got killed also got knocked down and turned into condo it's like it was such a it was I saw corn there. I saw Limp Bizkit there. That's all I got a lot of very big bands at this very small place. So anyway, let's get an idea for two guys right away. They have

an album called Inoculum. I believe inoculum this guy on our slash tool band says I'm sure you guys have all wondered how weird it is that the new tool album came out right in the very beginning of the COVID thing, like they predicted it or something kind of crazy. I know they're Freemasons or at least one is, I wonder if they're tapped into the Illuminati pipeline. Sorry, if it's been covered, I'm really new to Reddit.

I love that I've coming in with the most insane shit ever and then just being like, oh sorry if you guys have already extensively discussed this completely bat shit thing that I just made up in my crazy head. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's, I don't think, I've never heard that. Of course I know very little about the Illuminati

and I think that's by design with that group. If I understand. keep it secret. Is this like a feature of dual fans? Are they like kind of like pinch on style, like knowledge seekers? You know, they're strange. They're very strange to me. Like they are. They do.

I've never heard more math talked about on any kind of music. It's just, you go to their board, you could go to their subreddit right now and there's probably five posts about time signatures. Which is crazy. I did a Prague episode and they didn't do that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So they're really, that kind of does make sense I guess because they sort of fancy themselves like real music people, right? Like they're not just casual listeners who are just sort of hearing the music. They're listening to the music and like understanding it or whatever, you know? Yeah. So this guy, go again. But dark. But everything's got a veil of darkness to it, you know?

It's like, it's a little spooky. It's a little like, you know, like Jim Rose circus, you know, like, you know, it's like, it's a little spooky. It's a little like, you know, like Jim Rose circus, you know, like, you know, like tricky soundtrack to when you're like, nailing your cock to a board in front of crowd and you need something to like get people in the mood. Like that to me is reminds me of like kind of tool, you know, like, here we go everybody. What's going on a journey of pain and elation? I feel like it's calculus. I actually feel like they are Pink Floyd, but only singing about anal sex and stuff like that.

Because that's another thing. Their fans do fancy themselves kind of intellectual, real music fans that listen to the real shit. But most of the songs I've seen are like seriously about like anal sex and like gross stuff. Well, if you like anal sex, hey, more power to you. We're not here to kink shame ever on this show. We would never do that. That does remind me of the comedian who was like, man, I'm going to start talking with the fucking shit. I want to talk about. He was like made a huge I'm gonna start talking with the fucking shit I wanna talk about.

He was like, made a huge post about it. And then he went up on stage and he's like, I love like eating ass. That was the thing that he had been like holding back from saying. Yeah, everyone was like, okay, you could have said that the whole time. That's all right.

Well, he gets a reply that says, Freemasons don't have that kind of power or influence. That would also go against the aims and says, Freemasons don't have that kind of power or influence that would also go against the aims and obligations of Freemasons. It's a fraternity hated by certain churches because it views all religion as equal, that uses stories, which are wise plays to teach the virtues and encourage the members

to be better people by self-improvement and being good. OP responds, it goes, we found the Mason guys. So I know. Yeah, yeah, sounds like it. By self-improvement and being good OP responds because we found the Mason guys Yeah, sounds like it sounds like that person is amazing I know all of them Yeah, I know about all of them and what they are and do I own morals and dogma a 1775 Bible and a Masonic Bible. I've read and listened to hours of manly p-hall. I'm adept I just wanted everyone else's opinion. Again, he wanted everybody's opinion on whether Tool knew about COVID before it happened. And they were giving messages to people or something and they were able to, and it's

due to their connection to the Illuminati. He's just asking questions. And the message was have anal sex. but do it in seven, four times. Yeah, do it at 9-11. I mean, I think, I don't know, you know, we're talking about Primus and all these bands and how they're like post-grunge. Some of them are pre-grunge. And I think it's really funny that like Tool is kind of part of that alternative metal scene that even the chilies got lumped into. Like, yeah, like before Nirvana, it was alternative metal. And they that

scene was like, we're not like hair metal bands were like thoughtful guys who are smart and are talking about smart stuff and edgy stuff and then tools? Logo is just a wrench shaped like a dick and there's For fucking like is he horny is he horny as somebody who's not super familiar Yes, he's just a very horny guy. I mean all this music Chris all the songs are Kind of they sound very smart and when you listen to them They have a song called stinkfist which by the way, I played that when I was guest DJ when I said I draw

I remember that I remember that actually because I've heard the tape of you doing your first ever thing. You played stinkfish So you were that at that point you were a fan of theirs Are you just like the right there's a riff in riff instinct fist that I really like and you were and you Were and you were also a man of the people you're kind of giving the people what they wanted a little bit as well because that might have been for one of your boys as well because sometimes you were like You're doing you're playing some of the songs for some of your boys First of all, none of my boys liked tool Well, I don't know my brother you were shouting out your boys on the show a lot

You were saying like this for my boys boys You know, it was you know, so one more I did one for my fucking father-in-law was a weird song Let's take a look at another question that probably a lot of Prague people get Introducing a romantic partner to tool. Oh, yeah Here's this thing that I think is amazing, but you probably won't like it right away But it's super important to me in a big part of how I develop through my life Do you try listening with them? That's a lot of pressure on them. It is it's the worst feeling in the world We all know somebody says listen to this music and then looks at you Anything watching a movie or like we've discussed this so much where it's just like oh

This is my favorite movie ever and then you watch it with your fucking partner and you're like looking at her at your favorite parts and like, oh, right, this part. And she's like, yeah, yeah. I think this would cross over, I'll cross over to you with audiophile guys because you can see the guy who's into tool having the really expensive fancy stereo.

So he's like, look honey, I spent $50,000 on these speakers. Now we're going to listen to Tool in silence for, and their albums are long. I think their albums are like 70 minutes. Oh yeah. So we're going to sit 70 minutes in silence and you're going to have to take in the entire experience. And if you don't like it, you know, maybe you just don't like it. If you don't like it at the end, we can, if at the end you don't like it, we can discuss it, but- Do not. And we can listen again. Do not. Because you really, like it we can discuss it But do not listen again to really?

One time listen that's the whole thing you you tell us you tell me what it is that you're like Oh, I you're more than a fan then we can go over it again And I can kind of tell you and show you the parts that are really good You know you sit there be like see this is a seven another going to five now. They're going to four You know women love honey. I love you. I love you so much honey, but time signatures I love you, honey, but you're so fucking ignorant about time signatures. It's not even funny I will say I will say I had at the time the tool was sort of ascendant. I had a kind of reverse at the time that Tool was sort of ascendant, I had a kind of reverse experience of that

where my college girlfriend was like, I need you to listen to this record in its entirety, it's very important to me and who I am as a person. And it was in live Ani De Franco album. Ooh. Ooh. And I don't, I'm not familiar enough with that music to know what that, like what the implications are

there what that like if that was good or bad it's like like kind of jazzy like almost like Crest Punk folk but like jazzier with high production values so you're into it yeah I would never do that to anyone. I would never fucking do that to anybody. I love Wolfize. I love that band. I would not, after this recording is over, I would not go into my apartment and say to my partner, hey, we have to listen to Rotten Tropic's EP by Wolfize.

I get it. Oh, sorry. I get it. I'll admit that I did it to a girlfriend when I was 18 She liked rap and she didn't like any of the stuff the new metal stuff. I was into you call it crap No, no, no, no, no because I liked like Wu-Tang Clan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right You you would come out of liking hip-hop. So you really you didn't have like a negative view of it You just had evolved your tastes to corn and lip biscuit. Well, then that's what I did I was like always like oh, you know, I played this song by limp biscuit to her and just sat there and she had to be

Like oh, yeah, that is kind of like a rap and I just think about it Sitting in on the bed with her after probably having sex and making her listen to Indigo Flow by Limp Bizkit, which is a song where Fred Durst just says the names of bands too. It's not even like a real rap. So this guy goes, do you try listening with them? That's a lot of pressure on them. How do you shut up about everything you want them to hear and notice? Do you just set them free with it and trust them to see it? Most us had an older brother or a friend that brought us there with endless nights on a couch in a basement or garage How has this gone for you for me? I've let her know brought her to a show the show blew her mind and I'm still hesitant to put it on around the house

So he did he might have done the perfect thing That's hard to tell it's really hard to to tell. It probably depends on the person. Probably everyone would react differently, but that does seem like a pretty good way to do it. Going to a live concert, live music is amazing. Generally, we talked about shitty shows before, but generally it's going to be a great experience and maybe better than an album. And so yeah, I think that's a good...

Tool is good live. Like Arlen and I, like Wolf Parade, we played Coachella in what, 2006? 2000, I think it was 2006. Yeah and Tool had been moved from the B stage to one of the main stages. It was Tool in Depeche Mode I think and the Tool set honestly blew my fucking mind.

They were great. They had their LCD wall. They just had static like TV statica. It's just like in retrospect, like kind of corny or whatever, but it worked. And then they just ripped like they were loud. So you could, it'd be worth it.

You could convert somebody. I think you could. I think so, yeah. You could convert somebody. I think you could. I think so, yeah. Yeah. I just, I know a guy that pays like, it costs a lot of money to see Tool. It's not a cheap concert. It's very expensive. And I know a guy that never fucking goes to anything.

If it's on a Wednesday, if it's on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, he will not go ever. He never, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, he will not go ever. He never ever ever. And when you live in a place like we live, like a lot of bands don't come here on Friday, Saturday, like on their tours. A lot of times they, they move the, they do the weekday shows at a place like this and then do, you know, I mean, even Cleveland, they would do, they're saving it up for Cincinnati on the weekend.

To play at the fucking Newport House. Yeah, yeah. But like, he'll he'll he'll drive, you know, one state over to see tool every time. And he's always like, do you want to go with me? And this is years ago. This is before Covid or anything. And I was like, how much is is it and he said the tickets were like 298 and I was like that is fucking nuts. That is normal now But I don't even think that's normal now to be honest

That's a very high ticket cost for someone who's not like, you know fucking Beyonce like, you know, one of those like crazy stadium I guess they are that though, right? They are that yeah They play huge venue they play arenas and they do like a Pink Floyd sort of thing We're like there's like like Dan said there's a big LED wall Maynard stands behind it the songs apparently all sound Perfect like there's nothing Sounds like wrong like they they just they play that's what you want at a live show is they wanted everything to be perfect

exactly in place just like the alpha that's what I'm with you when I take my reluctant girlfriend to a live tool concert I want it to sound exactly like when I've sat her down on the bed and played all of anemia Well this guy goes dude, it's just music you act like you're trying to tell your wife you're gay Just play the music you like around the house and just be kind of open about that It's not like some big Sort of life-altering thing or whatever. So this next cut these next two comments I think the I'm gonna read you one comment and then the reply to that is gonna show you a tool guy for real The comic goes it really puts things in a new light when you realize tool is the only music opi listens to

I work with someone like this. They told me how they like tool on their first day, and I was like hell Yeah, but then I quickly realized they don't listen to anything else at all. Oh wow Reply goes. I'm unfortunately in that boat and I'm not Unfortunately in that boat and I'm not Unfortunately he wishes he could listen to other music, but he can't do it That's so fucking powerful if you can I'm trying to think of examples of other bands like that But low amount of albums ICP is a great example of that Yeah, where people just become completely completely immersed in only their music, but sometimes even with ICP is a great example of that. Oh yeah where people just become completely immersed in only their music but sometimes even with ICP you know you'll listen to the ICP adjacent bands

maybe like other Juggalo bands maybe. That's true that is true I didn't even that I can't think of any other music like there are genres that are like that like they're pro guys that will not listen to anything Yeah, what about jam band guys like Dave Matthews band? Fish fans might just only listen to that music and because there are hundreds of concerts that are four hours long They can just sit there and listen to endless amount it's all the same fucking Noodling over and over again, but it's like it's different in a way You know, I I love these next two to this guy goes sometimes you just got to find the right new band that will have

That quality of talent that you've come to expect So that sounds like a weird way to describe I guess sounds good and I like well look if you found the music that if you found the band that does music, the best that puts the notes in the right order, the best or has the best time signatures, then why would you listen to anything else? That's true. I get what they're doing. I get why I was like this, actually, when when that first corn album came out

and there was no other. There was no other new metal at this time. Like that album came out in 94. The next new metal album was a corn album that came out like 90 some six or something like that 95. And it was just like, there was nothing else to fucking listen to. And that's all I listened to until death tones. I found death tones and then, you know then ended up having seen, the genre hadn't developed and there was only one band doing it. So it was the only band I listened to.

And I think like- How long did that happen for though? Cause I think having a- It was like two and a half years. Having a phase where you, I've had phases where I only listened to a band. Whoa, something just happened in the back four. You guys didn't hear it, I cut it out,

but something did just happen. Yeah, it's okay, don't worry. But yeah, Brian, go ahead, please. Well here, this guy goes, yeah, I know exactly that situation. We had a coworker who only listened to some band called Thrice. He was super weird about it.

Now let me be annoyed just a little bit. These two guys acting like they don't know who Thrice is is insane behavior. Some band called Thrice. I'm not a Thrice guy, but I think everybody knows him. That's like me pretending that I don't know who Broken Social Scene is, you know? Oh, I used to listen to Broken Social Scene a lot.

I was taking all this ecstasy, and it was the summertime and I saw them at some festivals. But I was just, that was like a band that I was only listening to them for months on end, but I was just taking so, I can't stress how much ecstasy and MDMA I was taking at the time and how unserious my life was as far as responsibilities and stuff. I went back and tried to listen to it, and I'm just way too serious of a guy now to listen to that kind of music.

Yeah, yeah. Me too. That's how I'm actually, I will have already done it, but I'm reviewing the Bloodhound Gang, One Fierce Beer Coaster for the POD cast. I think I'm too mature. No, Broken Social Scene isn't a joke, man, just to be clear. It's insanely offensive, and I'm too mature Scene isn't a joke man just like it's insanely offensive, and I'm not offended I don't care, but wow anyway this me only the early broken social scene records are insanely offensive like that

It's just their early work where they're doing comedy rap and stuff like that, but then yeah This guy goes this guy goes. I did it for a long time because there was little else of the same caliber. Little did I know, I was just not looking in the right places. Then he gets a reply. Yeah, people seem to think they're niche or almost underground, but in reality,

they're the most mainstream prog rock band out there. There's a whole genre that sound like them. So I like that. And then our OP comes back and he goes, funny to me how no one seems to relate to the anxiety of introducing a person you love to something else that you love. I don't have that because I don't do that. Again, this came on a wrestling podcast. John Gabriel said this

too. The best thing you can have is different interests. Some of your interests can be different from the person you live with. So you can do some things by yourself. Like I'm not trying, I don't have a thing where I'm like, I need to get my wife to watch wrestling. Like I just watch it by myself and I'll enjoy it. And like I don't, I've never had that, you know, since I was, since I've been married,

I've never had that thing where it's like, we have to like all the same stuff and I have to introduce you to stuff it just isn't it's not healthy in his bed watch wrestling Brian what would she what would she she has what I know but if she were there what would you be worried about her saying maybe do you think she might be in your you're saying a certain phrase no do you think she might be saying a certain phrase why is he mad what's his man what's his powers she does be saying a certain phrase? Why is he mad? What's his powers? She does she goofs on me, but this isn't true at all

She says I always get up to go to the concession stand during women's matches, but that is not true With I watched the women's rumble by the way quite enjoyed it the return of Melissa Flair Melissa Flair's back Charlotte I mean Melissa Flair. Melissa Flair is back. Charlotte Flair? Charlotte Flair. OK. I thought this would be a funny, common thing. Many on this sub would have gone through. But as with so many things in life, I've woefully misunderstood.

And this guy goes, I'd be more worried about introducing her to the fan base. Well, OK, that's often the case. Like, I, you know, I love, there are a couple of bands that I will go into like a period where I'll only listen to their music, like Guided by Voices being one of them, because there's so many records. And The Fall, I love The Fall.

The fan base for both of those bands is worse than the band themselves, you know? Often the case, often the case that you're like, oh, yeah, it's perfectly fine to like that stuff But yeah It does sort of give you pause every now and then because you're like, no, I like it and then also these guys like it But sometimes that just happens, you know, there's overlap where I've always said this you're gonna have a same Favorite favorite movie has a serial killer sometimes you know You got to accept

All right, so I've checked with all of them I have a different you of all people would genuinely probably have a huge amount of overlap with a lot of killers As our favorite you know movies that you like This guy goes is it my primate goes- Is it most vertical primate, Brian? Is it the movie most vertical primate? I actually don't know what my favorite movie is because as I've said many times, I don't watch movies twice.

The only movie I've watched over and over and over again is Natural Born Killers. I've seen that movie. There's no way serial killers have that as a favorite One for a certain, you know like you're a serial killer I watched it after school for like over a year just every day I go home sit on the couch watch natural born kill is a good movie. It is a Want to say it now. Very Ohio guy coded. I think Yeah, Rodney danger girlfriend. I took my girlfriend to see it. We made out during it

I just I think that was part of me really liking it too. You know We kissed I didn't suck her titties at the movies Okay, no one asked don't put bands on stupid pedestals. You're way overthinking this. It's just music. She doesn't have to like it. And if that's a problem, the problems you and then this guy goes, I mean, if the show blew her mind, then just put an album on and don't say anything. Just go about doing whatever you're planning on doing around the house while you listen to it. And then this guy goes, that's the point though. I love this. This is good guys. This guy goes, that's the point though tool requires active listening and

the songs are long. So this method doesn't work. So she's not she's not you're just you're just your expectations of her too high. Definitely. And if this is the case, like it's not enough for her to just have it on the background and enjoy it. If that's the case, then yeah, you're being a real fucking I think she's not smart enough to notice how good it is. I know, I don't know what her sort of math credentials are, so I don't know if she would, she might be a mathematician,

in which case she might be able to understand. Are tool guys big like IQ guys too? Yes. Is there kind of a like. Yeah, we just did smart guys, we just did smart guys, so we learned a lot about IQs. Yeah, so they're smart guys. We just did smart guys, so we learned a lot about So they're like men's like men's shit like I mean this next guy. This is one of my favorite posts It's a longer pose is one of my favorite posts. I've ever found and it does really give you some tool guy

Mine this is okay his name is one left behind 19, and he goes I'm divorced So take that take what I say with a grain of salt. I love being divorced and I can do whatever the fuck I want. Hell yeah. I was also taking- I got a race car bed, man. Men going their own way. Fuck, I used to sleep in a fucking classic fucking king size.

It was boring. So stupid. He goes, also take that fucking classic fucking king size. It was boring. So stupid. He goes, also take that with a granite. Anyway, the one time my ex-wife went with me to see Tool was in 2007. I look back on that show and the set list is fucking great, but out of all the shows I've seen, that was the worst experience.

I don't think she hates Tool, but I'm sure they're far down on her list of favorites. I imagine she probably likes it even less. You've divorced. Yeah. The same like I think tools like my 15th favorite band to make him happy. Exactly. He goes, he goes, I don't think she hates tool, but I'm sure they're far down our list.

We've been divorced for a while and still communicate some. So now it's not, I consider the show bad because of her. So my favorite show is the one from 2019 after we got divorced. Might have something to do with it. Oh, I mean, yeah, maybe. I mean, honestly, if you were in like a, you know, a toxic marriage or whatever and you got out from under that and it was a weight off your shoulders and you're feeling sort of free again, that would make sense

that you would enjoy the concert. So my wife, my ex-wife ruined the 2007 Tool show but then when I got rid of her once I got rid of 19 was whoa But he's saying that she didn't ruin the show cuz he's like just in case you're wondering we still talk to each other So it's not like she could have possibly ruined the show or something Because anyway, if she's gonna like tool it has to build from within her It's like our ledge it's like yeah Like if you're you has to be within you if you're a child of God or whatever if she's been to a show and likes them

She will incorporate the music into her listening It's not like a person that's never heard them before, where I definitely wouldn't start with a really long song. My dad went with me for the first tool show in 2006 and unbeknownst to me, he went out and bought the lateralist CD afterwards. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you gave her the nudge, it's up to her now. That's sweet. That's nice. And that's coming from a guy who lost his wife. He lost his wife and who knows? We don't know. There's obviously could be a multitude. Like it's to listen to all the tool he wants now.

Yeah, he can listen to all the longest songs. He doesn't have to curate his playlists. That's the cool thing about losing your wife and maybe your life and everything is that like, I don't got any responsibilities now. I can just listen to Tool all day long. That's kind of the dream. You don't have to go hang out with your family or.

Interrupted. Go to where? Let's go to Ticketmaster. Let's go to our favorite website, ticketmaster.com. Did you guys know that they do Ticketmaster reviews? This could be of interest to you because I think you guys have tickets on sale on Ticketmaster. So there probably are reviews of your shows on there actually.

I don't know if you guys know. Yeah, they review shows on ticket master. We got some tool reviews. Five stars top as always saw them at the Ziggo dome at the Netherlands. I think I just cut this one cause it said Ziggo dome in the Netherlands. Oh fuck.

I think I played at the Ziggo dome with our. And it was such a great show and experience once again the tickets weren't cheap but as a fan you can't ignore a tool show haha hope to see them once more before they give it a call as they're not getting any younger. Well yeah and we all know that rock musicians definitely they will not continue to tour once they're sort of past a certain age. They will not continue to tour once there's a past. They can't afford to pack it in. They know when the time is up. So yeah, you got to get out there quick.

I would imagine maybe one more tour. Rolling Stones, I think they might be doing a retirement tour soon. I might go to that. I might check it out. Finally see him. This guy goes best event of my life. Couldn't dream of a better experience. Best band ever, period.

It's not a concert, it's a journey. Oh boy. There we go. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. Anyone who says it's not the thing that it is, and it's actually something else that's not a real thing, that's cool. Here's a great one.

This is from the Save Mart Center in Fresno, California. It's a three star and it says, I don't feel like Maynard was into the crowd. Promise to let us photograph on the last song, then never announced the last song. No encore, started late, ended early. I've been waiting 30 years to see this band live. Wait a second. Wait a second. You're telling me that the band started late.

I am sorry to say I have never heard of that in my life. Never heard of that. Never heard of that. And it sounds like this person's very mad that they couldn't take a photograph. Because they're like, hey, I want to photograph so bad. They're like, no photographs until the last song. Didn't announce the last song. No encore.

A lot of the sort of complaint is centered around them Just take them, you know, if you really want one just pull it out Take the photograph really fast. It's what do you have reviews? We they hire extra security Yeah, once you get once you get the you know, you know, you get snap one photo They're not gonna kick you out for that. I don't think don't turn the flash off. Yeah They're not going to kick you out for that. I don't think don't turn the flash off. Yeah, they might. They'll shine a maglade at you and shame you in front of your fellow tool fans.

Fuck, man, they wouldn't even kick you out back before. Even at small places for smoking weed and stuff like that, you know, I feel like now, will you get will you get kicked out? I wouldn't do it nowadays because I'm you know, I'm only vaping and I don't really smoke when I'm out in public. But do you feel like when you guys are playing a show? There's a lot of people smoking weed and it smells a lot like weed and it's all totally cool. Yeah Yeah, I just had a great phone memory of a wolf braid show or those was like

Would have been probably like 2014 2015. Maybe we were playing a show. I don't know if you remember this Arlen but somebody was with they were on their phone at the front of the stage with their back to our former guitar player bass player Dante Decaro formerly Hot Hot Heat and Dante like he reached down and was like hey can I see that and then took her phone and called his friend in Nanaimo or Vancouver Island and just put the phone on stage for the rest of the set. This is great. It's like, Hey, do you want to hear the concert? So the reviews are going to take kind of a turn here because of the

strict rules against phones. They don't have the Joe Rogan fucking bags, right? I don't think so. They hire more security. Okay. Because I think the Joe Rogan bag, the yonder bags, yonder bags. Yeah. But I think I don't think I do not think venues are set up to deal with yonder bags for like, you know, 15,000 people. That's what that's what makes the mothership so special is it's got the infrastructure in place to deal with situations like that. That's why it's the top Here's here's an interesting three-star review subject line says too loud These are such good critiques of a rock and roll cut I

These are such good critiques of a rock and roll cut. I love it. I love it too loud. Tool is my favorite band. However, his heart wasn't in it. I don't know. Maybe he just doesn't like Fresno. The sound off vocals were distorted more than the band makes them. The volume was near deafening.

Otherwise the display and light show was awesome. Song selection wasn't what I expected. They pulled out some beloved classics. Will I see them again? Absolutely. Will I see them in Fresno? Probably not, even though it's my hometown. I don't see them in Fresno because they hate us.

It's not known. It's not, I've not been to, have a I have a like a comedian a friend I know named Dino Arches from Fresno. That's all I really know about it. I know that does have it has like a big drug problem I know that as well, but I don't know is it just it's not generally Consolidated its favorite city home right now, you know, you're in a band you go on tour and you're like I'm in California and you have an image of what if you're not from California you have an image of what it's like yeah I'm pretty much yeah I'm there but then you're but then you're you're not really in the California of your of your mind palace you're in fucking Chico California getting a like a barbecue thrown at you by a meth dealer because uh the

the the headliner decided to go to a party and dragged you along. Wasn't Fredstow the place where we were with handsome furs and you guys played and then someone tried to steal the cash box and then the guy ran out and then all the bouncers from all the clubs down the street just beat them in the street and then came back. And we were like... Oh, yeah. It was such a horrible, like, horrible up and down of emotions of like, hey, we need our cash box, please. Like, fuck, somebody steal our cash box.

They're like, they're gonna kill this guy. Yeah, like, hey, you got the cash box back now, it's okay. You know, it's... Well, you got kind of the feeling that that was like, the thing to do on a Saturday night was just like the bouncers coming out and just beating somebody and I was like this you made this town is a it's a bit of harsh vibe there's a beautiful five-star review of tool at Fresno this is from

Fresno too don't let this heavy metal genre of music dissuade you from a tool concert. If you at all appreciate music in a classical sense, you will be blown away by the genius of their music. They are uber talented, highly creative and technical musicians. What a treat to experience them live. The performance and visual effects were outstanding. I like the beginning of that one because it's kind of like if you like classical music, you'll really like Sober, which is a great song. You know what I mean? But this is again a sort of a pretentious kind of person a little bit But they're also kind of I guess saying that hey the live shows incredible They're saying it may be in a bit of a pretentious way

But they're saying the live shows incredible and you can enjoy it even if you're not into that genre of music, even if you don't like it. They just, they're technically great musicians who put on a good show, which sounds like, is that pretty accurate, right? Well, yeah. And here's a three-star one. Tool sounds amazing and has great visuals, very immersive experience. However, their set list is just not good. I've seen them several times and this is their standard operating procedure. And then this next line, you'll get what happened. If they would play more hits, they could be one of the best live bands in the world. They're not playing enough of their hits. Yeah, that is A-Listing.

Get to the taking care of business part Yeah, that's that makes sense. I was thinking I was wondering what their gripe was with the setlist I was hoping it was just like the order of it You know what? I mean, like they were like they had real technical sort of gripes with like, you know You need to build up and then move towards this song or whatever But no, they just it's a classic run of the mill. You don't play the hit. I love the end of this too.

You gotta hear the end of this because he says, if they would play more hits and better songs, they could be one of the best live bands in the world, but they're holding themselves back and doing a disservice to their fiercely loyal fan base. I'm calling fake fan on this guy. If you're like, you're a fucking fake fan. If you are into this pretentious,

fucking dumb smart guy bullshit where you have to do math equations to really appreciate the song and and like, literally get divorced, then like you should be into the deep. Should be embracing the deep cuts. Yes. Yeah, you're right. We're all excited to hear like if I'm a true fan of a band and I go and they play only hits I don't like that either. You know what I mean? That's why I do think that when bands

play the full album I think those shows are popular because of the album cuts that the bands never play live. You know what I mean? I think that's the only reason I think that's why that's such a big deal because a lot of times you go to a show if they have like 10 albums. I mean, you're really just getting your greatest hits if they have like a ton of albums like and tool. I think it's really weird to go to tool and say they don't play enough hits, but also to treat them like a business and

say like they're doing a disservice to their fiercely loyal fan base. It's like these shows sell out arena. They're as big. They play the biggest venues. They're doing as well as you can really do as a band. So yeah, like I'm not really sure what they're holding themselves back from. I'm kind of scared of it. If they're holding themselves back from something, I'm kind of scared of what that might be, like the next step, you know? Do they take control of us entirely?

Nuremberg rally style concert. What's happening? I do want you guys to hear this, because I think for all three of you, this'll shine a light on a type of person that maybe we think doesn't really exist I wish and she goes show was great, but it felt too quick played a few of my favorite tool songs I wish we can record I get being in the moment

But you also want to show a clip of the great show to friends and family and just for myself I didn't like that I had to hide my bag in a bush because I wasn't allowed to bring it inside the venue. Now, the part about the phones is the reason I had to see this because like, not only are you never going to watch it, I know you're never going to watch it, but showing it to your friends and family is miserable experience for your friends and family. Like showing somebody a recording of a concert through your phone is not good

for anybody involved in the thing, you know? Check this out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you. In a guy's head, a guy's head, right? It's one of those things that feels like it's,

it feels like it's a good idea in the moment. Like it's important you're all drunk, you're maybe on something, you're like in the moment of it. You're like, I gotta take pictures and videos of the songs. I've done it before, like back in the day when I'd be at a concert. And then I'm like, what the fuck am I gonna do with this? You know, I'm not gonna listen to this. Sound quality is fucking horrible.

Like, yeah, it's not, yeah, it's it's not yeah It's like a useless thing. It's kind of yeah, it's like a like a Like Jackie the Jokeman merch or whatever you get it home at the end of the night, and you're like what the fuck today? Why do I even have this you know Eli answers a question on Quora? Why does tool take so long to write new music? Well, it's the smartest music in the world and they and Eli also Wants you to know his occupation thing on Quora as I have probably spent more time listening to tool than watching the news Maybe not a familiar what's going on in the world. He spent a lot of time listening to while nine years does see I love this guy He's gonna use a word that doesn't make any sense. This is well nine years does seem like an exuberant amount of time

These guys live more intricate Exorbitant I think is what he meant to say It's a joyful process making a tool record He goes these guys live more intricate lives than most I see that topic about Intricate lives. I don't not sure what that what that would mean that you live an intricate life is he using the wrong word again? Maybe intelligent is what I thought I'm just not sure what an intricate life is really precise Live a very precise life. Yeah, this guy this guy's not this guy's weird I see that the topic of other bands and projects has been touched, but we are missing some key explanations

Tool has been battling lawsuits and filing counter lawsuits for the past seven years I believe their guitarist Alex Jones has mentioned this on occasion. Wait, wait, wait. I've heard he's definitely involved in some lawsuits Jones has also and quite recently mentioned an illness and very vague details. All we really know is that a single band member is affected and it could be terminal. That didn't happen. Nobody died. Wow. Not yet. Well, this is from nine years ago.

Oh, yeah. And through all the years of projects, lawsuits and illnesses, these guys have gotten older. There are kids in their lives to take care of. All this aside, I do expect an album very soon. Danny Carey has mentioned that the tough part, the raw creativity is finished. Of course, he then laughed about it because he said the same thing a year ago.

Oh well, I'll just be happy when it's out. That's a positive guy, kind of a pretty positive guy overall. I would say well this guy He's got a masters and been there done that and always growing up and hard fucking Knox He graduated in 2024 from hard Knox University Hell yeah, and then the question is why does tool sound like the musical equivalent of gibberish? No, yes guy is sorry. Sorry, you sound dumb, sir. Well, you must be one hell of a musician to put yourself on a mighty sharp stake.

Tool's comprised of four insanely talented musicians that have created an original sound like no one else. Their hard rock, oftentimes progressive slash classical compositions. Seems splattered with ingenuity when comparing tool to any other band. This is great. Any other band, artist or orchestra, unless your band is named Rush.

Ooh. Thank you, thank you for giving it up for our Canadian kings up here. I was about to say this guy didn't know what he's talking about. He sounds like a loony, but he kind of sounds a bit smart, to be honest. Rush, Tool, all orchestras and other music. It's a great, like, tier list.

So Tool fans are just like the worst annoying Prague guys But also like the dark Magus or whatever so it is it is probably I'm gathering that it is of course It mentions Prague, so this is it is it's Prague rock, but it's like yeah, it's got that it's brooding It's definitely brooding like I saw darkness. Yeah, I would definitely I the reason I don't listen is probably because I don't don't like Prague very much and and I never really picked up on the stuff like you really do have to kind of understand. Look people like them that don't understand how music's put together, but I think in order to become this like huge,

big, huge fan of Tool, you do have to sort of understand, in your mind at least think that you understand how they put songs together and stuff like that. I like play music for a living. I love to play music and I also love some prog rock. And I can't imagine trying to appreciate music on this level.

Like I have no interest in it. I'm like, does the song rock? Yes, it rocks, I like it. Does it feel good when I listen to it? Does it sound good to me? I mean, yeah, that is definitely how I listen to music. I think it is kind of weird, but I don't know, I'm not like a smart guy and we discussed it on the smart guys episode

So maybe for intelligent people they're getting this like rush out of it Do you know what I mean this like feeling that I can't even experience it with my feeble brain? But yeah to me it seems like music should be appreciated for how it sounds so this guy gets into a real weird Stuff now he goes, tool simply stands alone. I mean, Danny Carey is the quintessential rhythm machine. By the way, whilst speaking of Rush, I wouldn't be surprised to find that Danny Carey may have been a Neil Peart of Rush fan

at some point in his existence without forgetting to it. I mean, that's yeah I mean that's a that's a pretty you know he was a very famous drummer the most famous complicated drummer in the history of drumming yes I would guess depending on how it lined up with his life if he was a city's a certain age that he would almost certainly have been a fan yeah without forgetting to at least mention the intricate and mostly morbid vocals of front man Keenan, Keenan, Maynard, James, his name's Maynard, James Keenan. So

he kind of got that wrong, but that's fine. That's okay. It would be virtually impossible. Having one of the most distinct vocal styles with his operatic type power reticent of the late Freddie Mercury of Queen tools easily in the rankings of the Undisputed heavyweight title of the world That's weird. It's just written. I you know, we live in a world now where we have to ask if I don't think my AI Because of the mix-up on the name It makes me think that it could possibly and this does seem like it could be an AI post I will spell operatic.-P-E-R-T-I-C.

See, this does. So I'm not AI. I don't think it's AI. I don't think AI spells words that wrong. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe it depends on which one you're using. Maybe he's using a really bad AI.

The cheapest one. To even use the slanderish term gibberish when referring to an artist such as tool Regulus and leaves you slightly at a disadvantage when it comes to criticizing music I will prep stick with something more novice. Like let's say a doughnuts. No way Another band but you're saying you can't even understand music at all another band but you're saying you can't even understand music at all just eat a donut you cave man you know you can't understand sounds just go shovel a donut into your face go eat a donut critique that you dumb fuck yeah see if you can figure out if a donut is good or not you idiot

no offense my friend but having personally seen tool for the first time, never even knowing who they were and witnessing them perform in Atlanta in 1992 at Lollapalooza amongst award winning artists like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Ice T's Body Count. The only thing I can remember from that concert was saying, who is that band? They just stood out so much and that band just happened to be tool Well, fair enough. Hey, hey listen, we've all of you guys have agreed that they do play a great live concert So yeah, so that's that could happen that could happen. This is that's a fair Yeah, Maynard Maynard Jane James Keenan wrote a book called a perfect union of contrary things now

I need to show you guys the cover of his book You guys you need to see the cover of his book. So this is the cover of his book. Oh, come on, man Fucking the dark professor, but the font is like is like a sub Harry Potter Like a sub Harry Potter series It's totally looks like a Harry Potter book like he's like some really lame fucking Villain in the Harry Potter series. This is a this is this is really this is Gervais level as far as I'm concerned Fucking Garth Marenghi's Dark Place That's straight up fucking Garth Marenghi's Dark Place. Yeah, totally.

That really, really does look like Garth Marenghi's Dark Place. That is so embarrassing to put that out there. I know. I mean, like, and like, well, it depends. So is he, I don't know him at all, but it sounds like- No, he is not kidding. Like, there's no part of him at all that's maybe doing a little bit of a tongue in cheek on it based on the fandom or something.

You're saying that he, like, the, but what is the You're saying that he, like, what is the book about? Can you, like, what is the book? It's about him. It's like a biography. An autobiography, he wrote it? Yeah, an autobiography. Well, somebody helped him write it. Now always, always is the case, I think.

I always love to bring this up too for everybody. The lead singer, Slipknot, also wrote a book that has like the same vibe of a cover that I always like to show people It's called seven deadly sins. Oh, yeah, and he has a Yes, devil horns on and he's got a cigarette hanging out of his mouth that he's holding a bourbon probably probably not happy I can't happy which by the way, this is I want to shout out where my premier David Eby of British Columbia has said that we will stop getting liquor from America into Canada due to this terrible mission due to this terror for that means that's right.

Daddy can't get his pappy anymore. Let's get this figured out. Politicians please. We need to keep the pappy flowing up north. I'll mail it to you, Chris. Oh, good, you'll be in jail for 10 years if you try to mail me pappy in the new world, brother. That's true, I'll drive it to you.

Amazon customer gave it five stars. Okay, this is giving what? The book. Oh, right, right, yeah? Yeah five stars captivating and inspiring as I read Autobiographies like this one I recognize all of the pieces of the puzzle that go into creating art and this thing we call life All the pieces of a puzzle I never knew about is the underlying platform that holds the intricate web together I never knew about is the underlying platform that holds the intricate web together

These guys are so good. I have always appreciated Maynard, but now I know why it's not just some fleeting music crush It's a bond of love that stretches beyond the corridors of reality into the metaphysical world where souls and lives are connected You wouldn't want to hear this a review of your book you were... This would be a scary review, I think. I think this would be somebody who has created a relationship with you in their mind that at some point could go south or whatever. Parasocial. Yeah, a little parasocial, a little... What's that guy? David Spade's Skippy or whatever.

All of a sudden just go wild on you just buck What you know what I bet is better than that book is? ICP behind the paint I've read that it's a good book It's good, and I don't think that book would inspire this type of even though they have the same rarefied fanbase Yes, I don't think that book would inspire this type of even though they have the same rarefied fan base. I don't think that book would inspire this type of scary review. Brian, I do think also that like Behind the Paint is a book about like somebody that like almost anybody would be like they're interesting enough that even people who don't like the music would be interested to see.

Yeah, what they do because it's like rags to see what they do. What would they mean? Because it's like rags to riches and they go through all these different phases and they build this entire genre and the whole vibe of the book is just like, wow, I can't believe this is happening. And I haven't read the Maynard book, but I don't think it's like that. No, you'll hear more about it. Believe me, there's some bad reviews that I've seen.

Brian has, just to be clear though, Brian comes from a Juggalo family. Very much, yeah. He's very much a- I have two nephews that rap as, at, you know, I would get a very, very VIP experience at the gathering of the Juggalos if I went again. I've been once, but if I went again, my nephews are both rappers

that are known like in the community and like Who have big they have a big setup at the gathering every year. So I and I was a juggalo Though not like in the way they are there. They're really serious But yeah, you guys if you guys are guys are, if you're ever playing in Columbus or the Columbus area or whatever, or if Wolf Parade comes through there and you need an opening act, you contact Brian and see if his nephew is available.

Because Brian is sort of doing manager work for his career anyways. I'm not managing Apollo Exodus. See how he gets his name in there? See, he's a brilliant publicist kind of guy. Oh yeah. Here's a brilliant publicist kind of guy. Here's a great line. This book is a must read if you want to learn anything

about the creative journey and a person who came from nothing into heights people only dream of. He came to those heights through hard work, diligence, taking a beating or two and not giving up. It's romantic, exciting, inspiring and exhilarating to see the birth of creativity at its peak. Now I'm part of the web on a deeper level as I am energized with admiration. So Ah, does he make reference to the web in it? Is that the

second person who said there's an underlying web of creativity? Right, I see. Like Maynard has an underlying web of creativity. And now he's part of that web. Maynard Maynard web of creativity and now he's part of that web Maynard is kind of like the mycelium of a giant fungus and like So you can never Rise to his power, but you can you could be part of it a part of the collective Some of his yeah his power and you can utilize some of his power progressive fungus. Here's a great one

Here's a great five-star. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest in the midst of a grassy Stractors and of course tool wait. I now have a graying beer. Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait Let's roll that back. Let's roll that back grant farms. Wherever you I mean listen it does happen But that's not really what the Pacific Northwest. No, it is is grass seed farms Oh grass seed farm guys are grass seed farms. Oh, grass seed farms. You guys are grass seed farmers up there. No, definitely. Like I said, in BC, that happens.

But it's just, yeah, I don't usually think of it like that. In the midst of grass seed farms, tractors, and of course, tool, I now have a graying beard, an 18-year-old daughter. And through a series of death, divorce, disaster, travels, and midlife crisis, I find myself spiritually connected, disconnected, and ripped off. Rarely do I find a book that makes itself a priority over the sunny day outdoors.

Maynard James Keenan's accomplishments as a father, musician, athlete, poet, artist, philosopher, and husband speak volumes in themselves and need no acclaim. This book is an inspiring marriage of achievement to creator. It's not a motley collection of the dirty transgressions and indulgences of a diseased industry that lives and lives exploited. It is a celebration of the value of self-respect, collaboration, expression, and character.

I didn't want it to end, but I knew it was inevitable. I like that. I didn didn't want it to end, but I knew it was inevitable. I like that. I didn't want to put the end, but I knew it was inevitable. I tried to convince myself it would keep going, but I saw the back cover and I couldn't trick myself. I knew that there's an ending. I sent an email to Maynard asking him to mail me some more pages. Yeah.

That's not in the... That would be cool if it was like a running, if you could do that, you know what I mean? Just a book that never ends, you get the writer to like... It's kind of like what guys is. No. Yeah, but like, you know what? It's an actual storyline that's continuing on

and then you like sort of, if I was like a really rich guy, you know, and then you get somebody just sort of on, you get like a writer, you hire them and you pay them like full time to just be constantly updating this story for you so that you can continue to read it forever. Does that sound like a good idea to anybody? I think that's great.

That's great. I love. That's like Kanye putting out a record and like never finishing the mix or whatever. Yeah, just keep it going forever. If you think that's a good idea, please send an email to me and let me know if you think that's a good idea. I'm sort of doubting it now as I say it out loud, so I'd love some reaffirmation that

it's a good idea. It's a two-star review. Oh no. And the subject is a perfect failure. Oh, ouch. I am a huge fan of Maynard. Perfect circle tool and pussifer fan as well. And I thought this book was terrible.

The writing style is amateurish and the tone of the book has zero depth. It was a struggle to read compared to Marilyn Manson's biography. This book is a chore to read. It smacks of Disney. Not one of the greatest creative minds of my generation. Maynard, I'm sorry, Sarah, sorry, you missed the mark. This let me down more than 50 shades of pathetic. Whoa.

This is like when I read the just Justin Pearson from the Locust for a biography called the duct tape dreams or something like that. And I was so excited to read it and I read it on tour and it was not unlike this review said just really missed the mark. Sad. One more thing here from r slash tool band that somebody asks why don't people like tool? Tool sounds so amazing to me but when I play it in the car with my family or friends they all say it sucks and sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Oh man. Now here's what I think. Oh, this guy means his, his kid has to be, this can't be a young person. I do believe that big mosque, his name's big monster penis. I think he's probably

an adult and he's trying to get his family to like it, which my daughter won't listen to anything with distorted guitar. She fucking hates it. And I think that's my fault. First guy goes, because people are entitled their own opinions. Tickets are already ungodly expensive and hard to get. Do you really want to make more fans? That's now you're, that's an interesting thought. It's like, yeah, that's a real idea of like music, music fans too is like gatekeeping for that. You know, they get so big and it's only going to cost more and be harderkeeping for that. You know, they get so big then it's only gonna cost more and be harder to get tickets You know Did I say is what I think you meant to say is that people have generally low IQs and couldn't understand a polyrhythm

Even if Danny Carey himself drilled it into their brain Yeah Yeah There's no two poly risk yeah Well, you guys are professional musicians. So you do it makes sense that you know what it is, but like hairs. Yeah, that's thank you Thank you I was gonna say cuz I don't know what it is and I hope you guys aren't thinking man This guy seems like a real idiot. He doesn't know what was it called again? Poly rhythm and you don't have to know it to enjoy music I mean fucking thing Brian's Brian's got a kind of a poly rhythm going on and it's not poly

Sick of these fucking lies and rumors you guys see I bowled a 300 You stop saying that to people that's actually like not even allowed I don't know like if the bowling people found out that you were doing that I have a ring But you didn't earn it you stole it from your dad earn it and by the way I didn't steal it, but your dad gave it to you your dad gave it to you But your dad has I bowled a 300 and they ran out at the bowling alley. We all know were you in Evansville No, I didn't Laro in Ohio

Lane with the alley ball. That's a joke that you could do it in fucking the Sahara Desert That is fucking Columbus, Ohio. You had to be in Evansville Do you guys know bowling Evansville is like the best place to bowl in the world? They got the you get a 300 there every time that's where your dad legitimately got that right is it Evansville this is mine no I know but well before he gave it to you he got that in Evansville right okay so this guy goes because people are conditioned to only like music and 4-4 just watch how they get excited when the pot goes into 4-4 for a bit. This is so funny. Oh, my God. Everybody come over here. Just look down there.

Wait, it's about to go into 4-4. It's going to go to 4-4. And all the morons are going to go crazy. These guys are worse than fucking jazz damage, guys. There's there's a which is which is actually a guys episode you should do. I don't I don't know how to explain it, but there are a lot of, I would say, session musicians and touring session musicians who are perfectly nice people,

but have had their brains fucking liquefied by jazz school. And they're on stage looking at the people who, the people in the audience have paid money to come and see and who love their creative output and are like, man, part of them is just like, man that guy like I'm I could play poly rhythms That guy doesn't that guy doesn't even know what a poly rhythm is and they love him. He should love me those guys Tool fans are like the evil dumber version of this guy the guys who's going they can't quite get up on stage They don't have the talent to get up on stage and do it

But they still have that same attitude as those session musicians. It feels like they think tool mastered music. Yes. Like Dan said before yeah that like you found that they get they do everything perfect why would you need another band which is yeah like a very weird way to think of music because yeah like obviously it's just less less of an art and more of like something that you could give me an instruction manual and I could put together if you told me what a poly ring you know this guy goes yeah right before the last chorus it's the part that everyone starts dancing to because the only part that people find comfortable. I hate it when they dance. I hate it. I fucking hate going to my favorite bands concert and when all the normos start dancing They're all enjoying it and it's like you guys are fucking just enjoying this part cuz it's in 4-4 It's as soon as it jumps over to fucking poly rhythms you guys are gonna wander around like Travolta in the fucking famous meme Yeah the fucking famous meme Yeah Try this with sees your wife is starting to get into the concert you took her to a whisper in here like yeah Of course you like this. It's four four

Yeah, hey hey enjoy this while you can there's not gonna be much more of this honey Here's a great one tool isn't for everyone and even the boys never really cared to please everyone. Tool songs typically require patience and repetitive listening to become appreciable. That's not something that the vast majority of music listeners are willing to invest. The metrical dissonance that take a few measures to resolve may also not be everyone. The metrical dissonance that take a few measures to resolve may also not be everyone's cup of tea. You know what's not my cup of tea?

People who say things like that. This is not my cup of tea. People who talk about music in this way. Music is obviously, you're supposed to like sort of lose yourself in it and it's supposed to be, it feels really sort of like a job to them. Listening to music is like their job or something, you know? You know who else has metrical dissonance in their music?

Wolf Parade, and we don't make a big deal out of it. Well. You guys, wait a second, you guys have metrical dissonance? We do, I was just thinking like. We do I was just thinking like Yeah, I was just thinking like call it a ritual on at Mount zoomers like for a four four over three four Wow, I know that I can't I can't remember but I love that song so I guess I I'm a fan of Metrical this love it

I didn't even realize how much I was into metrical dissonance. Holy fuck. You've always been telling me that. Well, I mean, I've never had the words to describe it, but I always knew I had this feeling that I loved when I was listening to music. And I was like, what is that thing I love so much? And it turns out it's metrical dissonance. Metrical dissonance.

Chris, you should- And I'm sitting over here being like, I love this 4-4. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course you do. Chris, you should definitely make other people who don't like the metrical dissonance feel bad about it What's a way that I could insult like what is well first off what is it? Oh I'm sure you'll be able to understand it. I mean like is it is it what, can you guys explain it in like a...

Arlen, can you explain it? You're the driver. Well, it's similar to Polyrhythm where one member's playing 4-4 and the other person's playing say 3-4 and then so the beats are all matching in cycles of say 12 So the I see what's the one as they call it is shifting Depending on who's playing it and but they do meet up at certain points So it's you guys you guys sat down at a white you guys sat down at a whiteboard and did a lot of sort of math You built this up.

You did equations and things like that. Yeah, Spencer has this big book that just says desk carts on the side, desk carts. And he would just hit me and Arlen with it repeatedly and just be like, listen up dummies. Ben gets in an argument with each other like, read the fucking book Excuse me, it's

Metrically challenging Thank you guys for coming on and doing tool guys right after tool guys. This is our tool guy double header Yeah, this is this is Brian's I want to say Brian's really proud of himself over there So if you guys could give him, please send him messages. Let him know how cool. What is it we have? We have tool guys, tool guys, we have fart guys, art guys, tool guys, tool guys.

No, fart guys, smart guys, tool guys, tool guys. That's right. Arlen could have been on both of these, I'm just saying. Fart guys? No, tool guys and tool guys. Oh, what's your brand? What's your brand? Oh, Makita baby, yeah, yeah This guy's old what's like I love Milwaukee, I'm a Milwaukee guy he's old Milwaukee this guy

You know, they're not too bad, but yeah, it's Yeah that a guy called everybody that uses Milwaukee racist. And he just said that they're just, he's like, all the people who like Milwaukee tend to be the worst tool owners. And then of course that's what Brian like. No, I use, what's the good one?

What's the really good one, Brian? Milwaukee. No, no, no, you know the one. You're talking DeWalt. I know what you're talking about. No, no, no, no, no. DeWalt's crap, Jesus. No, DeWalt's the best. Thank you, Errol. DeWalt's the best. No, it, no, you know the one you're talking to Walt. I know Jesus no Best

No, it's the best wall. Well, what are you trying to? This guy's trying to drill using his mason drill wood using his masonry bit over here All right, that is to show you guys got anything you want to plug Well, we got shows we got it Yeah, we got some shows coming up, but they're pretty much all sold out except for one show in Toronto the 11th of March Show in Toronto Yeah, Vancouver on the

tickets and The 11th and 12th I think still have a little bit tickets to well this come out before March 14th, right? It will it will come out might not come out before it might come out on the 11th actually though Yeah, so if you're listening to this right now there might still be tickets left, but they might miss out you fucking losers Sorry, yeah, come to this come to the show and we'll laugh at you when we switch to 4-4 and you start dancing like a Show and just like this guy's dancing. It's 4-4 and you start dancing like a... Please do that. Oh my god. Stop the show and just like, this guy's dancing, it's 4-4. Of course.

I'm gonna bring a video camera and I'm gonna videotape the people who start enjoying when it turns to 4-4, then I'm gonna use facial recognition, I'm gonna hunt them down and fucking ruin their lives. We'll see you all next week with, we don't know, but goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye.