Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 110 - MMA Guys with Felix Biederman

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

We brought our pal Felix back to talk about MMA Guys. We met the Socrates of MMA Guys, Could an MMA guy beat up a Chimp? Is Krav Maga a good fighting style? We also showed Felix the new Opie prank channel. The audio was a bit 'fucky' so I reuploaded a fixed version. If it's still bad then I'm doing a bit -Chris There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. I did not do a funny voice because the only one I could think of is the voice I did for the man guys Episode so I just said you know what I was gonna listen to like one of the Diaz brothers talk And then I was like I don't think I'm a lot of I don't talk like the Diaz brothers You could have gone with Joe Joe Rogan or Michael Buffer? He could have gone Michael Buffer. I could have gone with Slur Slur.

Bruce Buffer, I guess. I could have said several slurs in a row. Can I say, I don't think the Diaz brothers, I don't think it's an ethnic accent. I've never heard anyone from another country talk like that, like another culture talk like that. It's just, they just sound like that. You know?

They have a unique, I mean, it is a little bit probably regional, right? From like where they're from a little bit. Yeah, they're from Stockton. Stockton, but I think they have a unique, they even sound a little different than the people from Stockton. I don't know for sure, but yeah,

I've never heard anyone else who sounds like them really. I didn't know how to do. Like I said, we did man guys, Felix, which is just manly guys. And I did the welcome to go. You know what I mean? But then, like I looked into I started looking into this stuff. And then I was like, oh, I could do one of the fighter accents. I can't do Joe Rogan. Who knows that?

I was going to do a Brendan Schaub impression because I know Chris likes him a lot. Yeah, I'm a big Schaub head, gringo poppy. Yeah, like that. I mean, that's a really, speaking of MMA, some people, that is a really funny story about him. It's one of the craziest things ever. I don't know if we ever talked about it, but how Joe Rogan went on his show and was like, Hey, Brendan Schaub, you are not good enough to fight in the UFC anymore. And he did that publicly. And like, it was a very infamous event.

You'd be surprised. Yeah. It really felt like it was something, as many people have said, that should have probably been done in private. I think that's what a good friend would do. Cause some people are like, oh, what a good friend Joe is

for actually having the balls to say it to a hundred million. Yeah, that's what a good friend would do because some people like oh what a good friend Joe is for actually having the balls to say it to Yeah, I mean Joe Rogan classically not evil, but yeah, we got Felix here this week. We're gonna talk about MMA guys I'm very excited to do this. This is there's only one guest you have for MMA guys, and that's Felix and We we definitely have some weird guys. I found some weird guys and I found some interesting stuff, too We can just start on our BJJ real quick. That's my favorite thing It's here if you're really ignorant that's Brazilian jujitsu. It's grappling blowjab Jones is what I thought it was grappling blow jab Jones is what I thought it was but Funny if I didn't fuck it up

Jab Jones I could see that on a sign in an AEW show Yes, you can't I don't I don't think they'll be able to get blow jab Jones Yeah, true. That's true into the to the wrestling show keep fucking up with things that are a little bit racy, so they can't put them on I went to RB JJ and this guy goes made a mistake of looking up my opponent scared now many goes Him like amateur guy or what you're not you know like his in content compets super competitive You would know your opponent you'd be doing some research But yeah, just the idea of like going to a tournament and you're like, oh, who's this guy? I'm going up against to watch a video of him. He's just a

Absolute beast that would be that because like beaming in school and you're like have a bully waiting for you or whatever I don't know what that's like. I school and you're like have a bully waiting for you or whatever and I don't know what that's like. I just just to be clear Felix we covered a little while ago on an episode of guys plus that Brian up until the age of 25. Oh shut up that you don't need to bring up on here till the age of 25 he would be held down by his friends and like a full Nelson one on two on the legs two on the arms and then they would poke him in his belly button until he was 25 years old that happened to him.

You could rent a car. We were roughhounds. There was no insurance you didn't qualify for. I never even thought about the fact that you could rent a car. You could be like, guys, stop doing that. I got to go rent a car. You could be like, guys, stop doing that. I gotta go rent a car. He could be a senator. That's what I guess. He was old enough to be a senator

and that was happening to him. And they didn't grab my legs. They just put me in a fool Nelson and stuck their finger in my belly button because they know it freaks me out. I don't like belly buttons. I don't like seeing them or knowing that they exist or anything and I said that to them, you'd be not, you

would not be good in MMA. It sounds probably not. No, this guy goes, I have my first competition coming up in two days weighed in at 82 kilograms and an 85 kilogram category. I'm six three. So I'm not the biggest of the guys, but I made a mistake and checked out my bracket. Holy shit. The guy looks like he's a police officer that only lifts wakes, wait, waits and drinks HGH for breakfast. I was honestly pretty relaxed about this whole thing until I saw that guy's face. He really does look like he's going to fuck me up. Anyone has his feeling before help me out. I'm kind of crap in my pants. Listen, I'm just going to say, Felix, I don't know what your experience are. Have you rolled BJJ? Yeah, I trained BJJ.

I did it on and off, but I would say about a combined six years of training. So you're very familiar with it. Then I've only done it a couple of times. My brother did it very extensively, is my sort of knowledge of it. But my understanding from my brother is that it doesn't really, that's one of the interesting things about BJJ is big muscle bound guy, it doesn't really matter as much.

It gives you a slight advantage in certain circumstances, but just because you see a big muscle bound guy doesn't mean this guy's going to kill you in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I think if you think he's a cop though, like if you get some vibe that he's a cop, they famously just kill people. Well, that's for that. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like all things being equal, if two guys have very little to no experience, on balance, the more athletic guy

probably has an advantage, but at the same time, if you're super muscle-bound, you're probably gonna have to be a little bit more You know, on balance, the more athletic guy probably has an advantage, but at the same time if you're super muscle bound, you are probably going to gas quicker. I mean, famously like very hard in like, you know, any form of grappling. Like in wrestling, it's a whole thing to work yourself up to be able to wrestle for one full period. And for like grappling, especially if you have a ton of muscles, the first time that you feel like your limbs sort of like filled with blood

and like hard to move in this way that you've never really experienced. You know, guys do get freaked out, but presumably both these guys are experienced. Yeah, I guess. I mean, like it would depend on their levels. Presumably they're at the same belt level, obviously, because you want to you want to hear Brian has said there's more to it. OK, let's let's hear how how helpful the subreddit is. OK, because they're always helpful with this sort of thing.

First guy goes, so what? What's the worst that could happen? Which is, first of all, a bad, I hate it when people do that. That's so annoying. It's what you say like. You can break your leg, just to be clear. The worst thing that could happen is that

you could have one of your legs or arms broken. Well, that's not the one. We'll get a few others. But I hate it when you say, I'm nervous about this, and they're like, oh, what's gonna happen? You're gonna fucking die from doing it? It's like. Well, you could.

You could also. It is one of the things where you could die From it if you lose this guy goes broken limbs, and the next guy goes death or spinal or head injury that leaves you as a potato Thanks for the help It's like what's the worst that's gonna happen it's not really something to say to someone in combat sports, you know? I mean, like, what's the worst that could happen? I hate it as a phrase because it's like, well, I don't know. That's the point.

All the worst things that ever fucking happened to you were not the. For 99 percent of the time, it's never something that you imagine. It's something horrible that you didn't even you never even contemplated What it would be like and it just happens to you. That's But it's it's the unknown really. Yeah, and that's what you're freaked out about by the way. And again This next guy goes yeah, because white belts grappling without money on the line get their arms snapped all the time now late That's gonna come back later. Somebody's gonna maybe disagree with the sentiment there. That's a weird thing to say,

because I don't think people with money on the line would have more of a tendency to break somebody's arm. They would be like, you know, they'd have the ability. Oh, they're professionals, yeah. They'd have the ability to do it, but there's, I mean, there's certain guys. What's this, there was this one Brazilian guy who, he fought in the UFC.

He was very famous for holding on his. Who's the more Polaris Polaris? Yes. Thank you. Paul Harris. My brother and I would call him Paul Harris. Oh, that was a popular nickname for him. He was who's the more Tokino Polaris. Tokino was his nickname. Yeah. And then tree stump because he was like five, seven, five, eight.

But for the middleweight, he was as wide as a fucking Mack truck. He was like genetically engineered to destroy people's ACLs. And he and he and he would do that like regularly in training. Like he just would not let go of holds, which is so insane. You know, like he would do it in matches, too. You can find video of him in the UFC, like not releasing holds. But for the most part, professional fighters are better at releasing holds than amateur fighters, I would say, you know.

Yeah, yeah. My experience, like guys who are either like very good experienced amateurs or professionals are like, if only for like self preservation, are really good about that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanna keep coming back to those gyms and like fighting again,

and they're like in the community, yeah, exactly. Here's another guy that starts out helpful, and then maybe he goes, if he's looking like a Hulk, he'll most likely be quite small as he happens has a division to fit in first boxing match I had I went against the guy who looked like a monster, but he was smaller than me and his eyes He looked like a crazy man, but I wasn't scared of him in that moment. The point is he fucked me up real bad I

Was not expecting that at all That's a good reply. That's a really good reply. Yeah. Yeah, and then this guy Fucked me up this guy goes bro. You're letting them beat you before you even step on the mats Everyone can get it believe in yourself, and I hate that too. Yeah, that's so annoying. It's that's another thing like what's the worst that could happen? It's like, yeah. Well, I wouldn't be having this problem if I could just believe in myself on command.

Yeah, this is clearly a post of someone who does not believe in themselves. But also, I always remember that, like, because people would always say, like, oh, in fighting and stuff, stuff You've got to have this like crazy attitude like you can't be scared at all But then I remember Mike Tyson saying that he was so scared before every single one of his fight Think there's like different schools of thought on that you know well this guy goes. Yeah, he's already tapped out multiple times in his mind times in his mind. Shut the fuck up. I hate MMA. I wasted like a third of my life on this.

God damn it. I hate this. I hate everyone involved in this. Fucking stupid already tapped out two or three times. A lot of guys had the bodies of champions, but the bides of not even a content Shut the fuck up. I have something later on that talks about Joe Rogan's fight IQ that I think you guys are really gonna like that sounds good He's going listen the guys got a high fight IQ. You can't argue Guy goes Guy goes dude six, three in the 85

kilogram category. How much bigger do you want to be? I've seen guys like five, eight competed 85 kilograms. I'm like four inches shorter than you and competed at 85. And I'm pretty average for the weight. And then the guy got the OPs like I'd like to be six foreign and this guy goes, but would you trade an inch off your dick for an extra inch of height? What if that inch extra extra inch was just a huge forehead? Fuck it, man. Go choke himself. Go choke his ass out. So then they start to get into a little conversation about what traded a dick for an inch.

Yeah, this is some real MMA guy like, you know, he's just like, what if it's a fucking, what if it's just a forehead? Like that's something to think about. Like some real MMA guy like sort of you know he's just like what if it's your fucking what if it's just a forehead Like that's something to think about like some real bonehead discussion going on here. I like it out Oh, yeah, there's more the guy who said the guy that guy is like the Socrates By MMA he is like by easily all the guys in his gym are like that is the smartest guy Oh, yeah, that's who you go to if you have like a serious life issue or whatever That's the thing. I always talk about that guy Jared. I grew up with Chris is that like he was like He was like you would go to him and he's like older than everyone right he wasn't he was the same age

Oh, he's everyone cool. He dropped out of school dropped out of school, and he's like older than everyone right he wasn't he was the same age Oh, he's everyone school He dropped out of school dropped out of school, and he fucking didn't clip his fingernails He had long hair his teeth were all fucking falling out He sat in that room all day and would just dole out advice That's you know what I mean to get advice from a guy who doesn't brush his teeth or nails and just Bedroom doesn't even go to school and he's Doesn't leave his bedroom his parents bring him weed and cigarettes

Yeah And he just sits in there with a little fan in the window and we would go to him like Let's go to the white like he was our wise man makes that we would go kind of because when you're that age That's like, you know, you're like a teenager like 15 16 That's like the ideal life is just like chilling and your parents are bringing you weed and stuff. So yeah, kind of school. You know what I mean? So he once he dropped out of school, the talking point about him was he's the smartest of all of us.

Yeah, that is my favorite thing. Aller Park boys that they try to prove boys is such a great show because they nail so many like, like, obviously, there's the big things like Ricky's Malik prep isms and everything. But they nail so many like little stupid behaviors that escape most even great writers of stupid characters. I love how Ricky's dad, the disability scammer, when he's talking about bubbles goes, bubbles, that's the smartest guy around. They just like stupid guys love just like to try to shock you by being like, oh, you know that idiot we know?

He's actually the smartest guy ever. And it's like, like they are, they're just, they're just like 3% smarter than the other like complete morons. They got one thing right. One time, you know, maybe not even that. Maybe just willing to say with confidence what they think you should do. I think is really, that's what it was with Jared is like, you know, you're pretty unsure

of yourself when you're like 15, 16, 17 years old, you're like completely unsure of yourself. But then one guy's like, I fucking dropped out of school. I watched the discovery channel all day. I know all kinds of shit. You're like, this guy's gotta be smarter than me because I'm not even going to school, you know, because I'm skipping classes, you know, but he ended up being just like, I mean, truly, you know, I think I was 19 the last time I saw him and I was just like, he's the dumbest guy I've ever met in my entire life. This next guy goes, I'd 100% be shorter for the extra wiener length.

Two inches to your height ain't going to change your life all that much. Two inches to your dong is the difference between the average and getting nicknamed the hammer. But why? So these are younger people, I'm guessing. Yeah, because I think that, yeah, I don't think when you get like this guy, I listen, yeah, I like even like at a certain age, you realize that like any given group of friends,

most people don't know the size of everyone's dick. Much, much, much less like having a nickname for the guy with the biggest dick. Women wouldn't name you the hammer. Like I don't- Your buddies would give you the name the hammer, definitely, yeah. Yeah, your buddies are really cool

with you bragging about your huge dick all the time. This next guy I love though, because Felix called that guy the Socrates of MMA. This next guy goes, that's surprisingly helpful way to talk to people about their height. So he might be the Socrates of MMA. Oh yeah, or like the Jamila Jamil.

He's like helping them with their body image stuff in a way that no one ever has before. This is is also like he's the wokus guy in the forum Yeah, I don't know why this guy says this he goes the general rule in grappling which I believe this is probably not a general Rule in grappling he looks like a basket, and I'm not a grappler I don't know But he goes the general rule in grappling is the scariest looking people are complete pussies and the nerdy dorky guys will assassinate you. So maybe that's true.

But I'll bet you some of the meanest looking guys are not pussies. That's that's not like it's not a hard and fast rule. I don't think I think they're. Yeah, but no. Yeah, most professional fighters look like professional fighters. They are professional athletes. And like, like, I fighters look like professional fighters. They are professional athletes. And like, like, I mean, like, yeah, at a high level, there are a lot of guys who like, like John Donahue is a good example of like a guy who looks like a claims adjuster who's like

incredibly skilled. What's that guy's name? Ryan Hall. Ryan. Yeah, Ryan Hall. Another good example. But at the same time, there are also like- Paul Harris.

Yeah. Or guys just in pure jiu-jitsu who are like roided to the gills. This is an older example, but Hikaru Arona is one where they look horrifying and are also ADCC champions. Yeah. I were they yeah, they look horrifying and are also ADCC champions Yeah, like it's like a truism for redic I'm bricio verdun for bricio verdun But like was scary looking fucking dude, you know, like and he was one of the best BJJ guys in the world, right? Yeah Yeah The next thing I found when BJJ was this guy, he, and he just said, fat guys,

scare me. Big old boys with decent experience. Purple belt or higher are the scariest dudes in the world to me when it comes to grappling. Not like your gamer fat with flabs and childlike honors, but the hardworking man with an alcoholic fatty liver disease fat where they have a belly that is a rock hard and pokes out several feet away from their body. I'm an athletic 180 pound guy and a guy damn near gave me pneumothorax today by taking side control and driving his belly into my chest like how an old school BJJ guy drives his knee into your belly. I literally cannot imagine how bad someone like this is to roll with a really small person or thin person. Anyone have a near death experience with this guy? They'd like this kind of guy that they'd like

to share advice for punishing this kind of pressure. So it's cause these guys are nervous. I mean, I think this, and I'm a pro wrestling guy. So big fat guys with hard bellies are actually the toughest guys in the world. Uh, And in that world, you know what I mean? Seems this guy seems to be saying that that they're using their hard bellies like they're hard, you know, protruding bellies to their advantage as well. To like drive them into. Yeah. Like they're like, I don't I mean, I don't know. I think, again, it's just like strength and dexterity and things like that.

But Felix, did you ever do any Brazilian Jiu Jitsu with a guy with a hard fat belly? I mean, I'm familiar with the type. But again, this is such a great insight into the mind of the stupid. I'm afraid of a fat guy with this type of build. Those are the scariest guys because it's the most recent guy who beat me. I've run into dozens of these guys. These guys run the bracket at my local tournament. I mean, everyone who's ever looked like this has kicked my ass.

Just this is the most recent guy. So it's ever looked like this has kicked my ass. Just, this is the most recent guy, so it's true for all of them. Yeah, yeah, he's, yeah, I do feel like these guys have a short, a goldfish-like memory when it comes to that kind of thing. Well, this guy does say, uh, LOL, several foot long bellies.

The scariest thing is going mountain realizing your fucking knees don't touch the ground. That didn't. That is a good put with a fatter guy. Oh, yeah. Mount is full mountain. Yeah, I think it like a. Yeah, it's like you're at a like a mechanical ball or something.

The 300 pound coach told me to secure the body lock. My arms weren't even long enough to do it. This next guy, blue belt, says here's a little secret. You don't need to lock your hands to body lock so long as everything else is still where it should be and how it should be. Then Lord Arm Triangle, which is a purple belt, says blue belt giving unsolicited advice.

Flare checks out. Yeah, some guys are black belts at Reddit. That's true. We see so many of them on their show. Remind me of the, what are the, how do the belts go? Blue comes before purple. I'll tell you that right now. Blue is the, that is correct, Brian.

Blue is the first, it is the first thing you get after white belt. Okay. Then it is purple, then it is brown, then black. And there are stripes for all of these. More stripes as you go up generally, sometimes it does vary from place to place I've heard. Black has a lot of degrees to it.

Yes. And there is like a level that's I don't know if you'd call it beyond black belt or just like the highest degree of black belt, but like the highest thing you can get is a it's like a red and black belt. And that's what like, you know, Elio Gracie would give that to you. And how many? Yeah. Yeah. He says he's still around. No, he's long, long dead, long dead. But he's like the original guy, right? He's the he was the was he the guy who brought it over from Japan?

Was he the guy who actually went to Japan? It's complicated. There was there. He basically learned a form of judo from this guy, Maeda. I remember Maeda, because the reason I know Maeda's name, sorry, is just because when you look at all of the, like who got their black belt,

where they got their black belt on Wikipedia, it goes all the way back and everyone starts with Maeda. Yeah, Maeda is like, it kind of all sprung out from him, at least in Brazil. He, he did a form of judo that he learned from another guy that was heavily emphasized Randori or like, you know, floor sparring, you know, literal, more literal translation of that, Just traditional grappling as we know it. He taught it to like Elio's brothers too, but Elio was like, he was born in like 1913 or some shit. So he had polio and was much sicklier and smaller than his brothers. So they could fight regular They could fight regular. Yeah. And he had to he he sort of like reworked

some of the Randori and some of the like standing throws and trips to be to like rely like, you know, already does rely on leverage. But like to make it so that like even even someone with like a Mr. Burns built like Elio did yeah, do it Yeah, that was the whole Brian you probably even know this like from the original UFC, right? You remember when like hoist grace it right? You remember him? I mean, I know that a lot of that stuff because in Japan. Oh, it got all fucking mixed up That's right. They're like I do know a lot of those guys that

with pro wrestling. That's right. That like I do know a lot of those guys that that was that was pretty fascinating. So much lying and so many worked fights over there that I love watching that old stuff like I love watching Bob Sapp like go over there and wrestle and act like he's doing doing a real fight. I what I love about Japan is that they would they would make like their judo Olympians like pro wrestlers, but they would also like have them fight in MMA.

So they would do like that incredibly like involved, highly technical Japanese pro wrestling stuff. But then like three times a year, they would just wander out and get decapitated by crow cop or something. Yeah. Why are you making them do that? Eugene Nagata is the standard bearer of the time of New Japan pro wrestling when he was. He was supposed to be the top guy.

And one of the reasons they say he never got over is because Antonio Inoki sent him a bunch of times to do MMA. He just got his face smashed in and like one second he's a pro wrestler. It was obsessed. And no key was obsessed with proving that pro wrestling was real, which is such a weird fucking thing to do. But I guess because it isn't exactly. And I guess if you're an okay and your whole life is around all these work fights, it kind of is nice to

convince people that it's real. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's how it worked. Yeah, I mean, like Kazushi Sakuraba, he had a lot of very good wins. He was a pro wrestling guy and he was like a lot of right. The Gracie Hunter, right? The Gracie Hunter? Yeah. He had an insane streak against Grazies until he was in his 40s and his body was just obliterated by having... Fighting all of their children and nephews and stuff. Yeah.

That's what happened. He ended up fighting Hododger Gracie. Yeah, I remember it's like Probably like not even born when Sakuraba like started training for wrestling is hodger Can you see the one who never lost or claims to have never lost or no? That's a did there's one That's an older one. That is that is Hicks and great Hicks and sorry. Yeah, yeah, cuz you see shot Sakuraba is the first Japanese pro wrestler I ever saw wrestle ever in my life. Like he wrestled menorah Suzuki and I was like fucking so into it. Like I that's how I got into like the that's how I'm not into WWE and stuff like that. Like I got into all the Japanese shit and all that stuff. But let's check in on Quora real quick because that's also where a lot of geniuses go.

And they talk. And this is something that comes up a lot of times in MMA. And the question here is, would Bruce Lee, at his peak, be able to contend with today's top MMA fighters? Oh, yeah. I've heard about one inch punch before. Yeah, he would knock them out in a second. You guys have no idea how often this conversation.

I know I used to I MMA forums. I mean, I really got on Twitter because of MMA in the first place, and I used to read MMA forums like what I would like working at, like, you know, like a shitty job, like, you know, swiping people into a gym. I would just sit on the computer there and like read like sure dog or MMA that all day. Yeah. I have seen this thread probably no less than five thousand times. Yeah. It's crazy, man.

It's an important question. And they are so I've never seen people so sort of like, like, like it feels like a requirement to be online in an MMA space for you to have an opinion on whether Bruce Lee would be a good MMA fighter. That's just like, it seems like a prerequisite that like I would assume Felix that you have posted it in a thread about Bruce Lee doing it. I think I might have because I got so sick of it because it's such a stupid question. It's like, I mean, it's like, yeah, he sort of did like a kind of what MMA was by like blending all these things together. But he also he the press athletic prime was in the 19 fucking 70s. Yeah.

When people didn't know what to do, did no one. Yeah. I'm sorry. Who did he have sanctioned fights with? All the videos of him fighting are him fighting kung fu guys on rooftops Yeah, there's no way putting I'm pretty sure they're saying I see them beat the shit out of a lot of guys You can tell by his moves But he'd be great. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like like, okay. I have a question

What's harder like a face or a really thick wooden board? Yeah, like Bruce Lee probably won a lot of fights and he was like, you know, part of partly because he was like blending stuff together, including grappling and takedowns. But also there has been more development of like what fighting is since the UFC became a thing than probably in the last thousand years before that. If we're just talking about like unarmed combat, like, I don't know how you could ask that question after UFC one.

Yeah. What Bruce Lee's what was what was's? What was, what was his weight? What, where would he be fighting? Just out of curiosity. I, they don't explain this first guy does say, uh, Chuck Norris at one time, the world middleweight karate champion sparred with Bruce Lee in an interview. He quite cheerfully remarked that Lee was capable of killing him. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Then he, yeah, yeah. You'd be John Jones then. Doris also. The only time you've seen him fight is in a movie. Yeah. I got it. I'm not saying that he like sock, but it's like, OK, what fight? What weight class he would be at? He would be 140 pounds. So he's 140 pounds. I guess he would fight a bantam weight or featherweight.

He was five seven, which would he would be slightly shorter than average in Bantam weight. And if he's 140 just as he is now, no weight cut. He would probably actually be at flyweight. You know? Yeah, they'd probably cut him. Yeah, he'd be able to cut weight and he'd get down pretty low. But I think, personally, I think just a real good wrestler would sort of take him down and just ground and pound him. You know?

I think he would struggle to get up. Someone would just impose their will, Habib style on him. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know that he would be able to handle that. Well, I do want to say this guy is a 10 year Tai Chi student. So that says, oh, yeah, there you go. And there you go. So he so he does have a lot of relative experience. This is that's why.

Listen, this is why Quora fucking rules, because a 10 year Tai Chi student can answer and still be in the same. The key is the expert. I don't know any more than him. He does say Conor McGregor's assessment of Bruce Lee is that he would have been able to compete at any level in any way class. Oh, oh, oh, oh, if it insane, if it insane, criminal sociopath does it.

Was that after taking three and a half grams of cocaine to his head in one line? Perhaps that guy is like, and he's the exact type of guy to say that shit to. You know what I mean? To just be like, oh, yeah, brute. Like, you know, like he's just like he's so fake with his like reverence of that. You know what? He's like, I have this respect for fighting and like Bruce Lee is one of the greats. He would have no problem whatsoever. But it's probably not even what he believes either. You know, there's no way he believes that.

It is typical like Connor bullshit where it's like the way I moved. I learned from Bruce Lee. Yeah. And it's like what what what do you refer to Bruce Lee as behind closed doors? Oh. What epitaph do you give him? I'm sure it's not the father of MMA. No. Well, what about this one then?

Bruce Lee's doctor wants to express concern for Lee because there was no fat on him. The man has made of steel is what he said. Okay. That's like a, man is made of steel is what he said. That's like that. He's made of steel. They're doing the Chuck Norris things now. Bruce Lee was insanely strong and quick as well as fast. He was accomplished in a wide variety of martial arts, including Western boxing.

His Jeet Kune Do was in fact the first mixed martial art. I always congratulate the poster. You're only the first mixed martial art. I always- Congratulations to this poster. You're only the eight trillionth man to say this in a thread like this. I mean, Felix already told us this, you idiots. Like honestly, Felix on this episode already told us this. And I even was like, should I even be saying this? Everyone knows this.

No, but I didn't, I didn't. So I appreciate you saying it. I love this line. I love this. I always tend to ask people who insist that size and relative strength are the decisive factors. How they think they would fare if a largest house cat decided to become feral on them, or how they think they would do in a fight against a raccoon.

Food for thought. What's the point they're trying to make there? Well, yeah, Bruce Lee could claw people's eyes out. I don't understand what they're saying. What they're trying to make there? Bruce Lee could call people eyes out They're saying what they're they're saying it doesn't mean either, but that's the whole end of the thing He ends it with that that makes sense it ends it cuz everyone's like I don't know what the fuck this He is drunk hillbilly at a party that corners you and then says something and then when you you're like Yeah, like you'll be like yeah,, like you'll be like, yeah. And then I'll be like, huh?

And you're like, OK, I feel like I just have to agree and get out of here as quickly as possible. Jimbo used to do that to us all the time. He's the only guy. Older guy. Oh, yeah. He was like in his 30s hanging out with us when we were teenagers and give us beer and weed and stuff. And he and he was Cool is Felix is one of the coolest guys in the neighborhood

Again, I think about that guy so much more now that my daughter is like 20 and I'm like He was hanging we were fucking 14. Well, who did he live with again? He remind me he was like daughters Hang out with us so Remind me he was like he had two daughters To hang out with us so We didn't even we were there to hang out with their dad Like he was the guy and he would corner you when he would get really drunk and arguing with children. He would get drunk and get really argumentative and then you would end up in like a thing where he's just like, you can't say anything that's right.

And then he goes, he'll just look at you and he'll go like, uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. And you'll just be like, okay, man, I'm going to leave now. I'm highly intimidated by you, sir, because nothing he said made sense. Why was he doing that? Because he's insane. I passed out at his house one time because we smoked a primo. We smoked like two primos, which are there and Groveport. They call him primos joints with cocaine in them. And we didn't have a name for them. You didn't call them primos. No, we called Which are it there and Groveport they call him Primo's joints with cocaine in them And we didn't have a name for them. You didn't call them Primo's. No, we called them a Coco puffs I think so we spoke to Primo's with him and I fainted and the next thing I knew I woke up and he was shoving

He was shoving Little Caesar's pizza into my mouth and saying he's got the sugar diabetes. He's got the sugar I think he was just nervous that I died in his garage You know what I mean? We're so he was trying to wake you it like what did that? What he was waking me up I was in his house his kids were standing around me I know I was there and what was the Pete was the for the pizza? Did he think the pizza had show? I got some little bit of sugar on it, but probably not enough for wake me up is what he thought it would get my blood sugar up and I'd be fine. That me passing out had nothing to do with the

cocaine or the weed. It's a crazy guy. He was just very like, I think back on like there are like three or four adults in my life when I was growing up that would buy everybody beer that hung out with kids, like almost exclusively. I don't think there was any kind of sexual abuse or anything like that. I just think that they were like, I want to be, I want to be the coolest of the kids you know what I mean yeah I we had we had like quite a few people like that that we King of the kids yeah yeah we we knew a lot of people like that one of them he was like one of my really good friends older older brothers. And he like he had this ID, like a real Illinois state ID from this guy that he knew who was in federal prison for something terrible. Yeah. For something real bad.

Yeah. And the guy looked like me. So he's like, Oh, yeah, let's just like, looked like me. So he's like, Oh, yeah, like, you should use his ID so we can like go to clubs. And I was like 15. And we would we went to this horrible club in Chicago that was like, right below a sports authority. Before we went in, he was like, Hold on, you don't you'd like you don't look cool. like we have to we have to like look cool to go to this club and He he was he we went to the trunk of his car and he pulled out This Christian autogé hoodie with like bejeweled bullshit on it. That was the exact same one. He was wearing Oh Shit the bead boys good showing that the bead boys showing up in the bar

in the matching outfit. That is, I mean, honestly, that is like probably a pretty good idea of how to get into somewhere like there. No, they'll be thrown off by that. Like these two guys, no one's doing it. You know, buckle core. It's buckle core. It's the buckle at the mall is always the store. I think about when I'm like, they'll put you in a bedazzled pair of jeans, like those jeans that like are very ornate. Yeah. Have like crosses on the back and they're bedazzled and they're ripped and they're

kind of faded in a way that doesn't look real. And then like, cause you see them on like 40 year old dads wearing them all the fucking time. You've been mentioning that, that a lot of the dads you see at like the sports things and stuff are wearing those bedazzled jeans. It's crazy. Yeah. Here's a, here's a question. Well, let's look at another question about that. Could an MMA fighter to beat a chimpanzee and hand and car? No, I don't believe so. A chimpanzee is outrageously strong. Well, listen, this this guy and he doesn't.

He says he loves Lovecraft's craft and he's got an answer for us because I'm pretty surprised by the chimpanzee fanboying and fangirling and the replies. I did not realize there were so many chimp stands out there. Holy shit. I hate chimp dick riders. Yeah, man. You ruin every four in my mind.

Oh yeah, chimps are so strong. Well, why don't you go fuck one then, Jesus. Good luck. Chimpanzees are smaller than the majority of people usually reaching a maximum weight of around 55 kilograms. A large MMA fighter would be over six feet tall, way over a hundred kilograms. So that's one thing. Those numbers are very much higher than the chimpanzee numbers. I will say that I gotta what are you gonna do to defeat the chimpanzee? You're gonna knock the chimpanzee out It's not gonna tap out I can tell you that I actually I asked a question similar to this to Twitter a while ago

Which is like obviously I favor a chimp against any human. But like there is an outside chance that like someone who hits hard enough could win in the first like 10 seconds of the fight by knocking them out. But if it goes longer than that, they're probably fucked. And I said, who not who's the best fighter, but like what fighter has the best chance of doing that to a chimp or a girl? Is it Pereira? Probably do you think I would say Pereira or Bodder Hari. Oh yeah, maybe. I think Pereira with a kick, obviously, because the chimp is so low as well, right? Like if Pereira could land one of those like famous devastating kicks straight to the head,

that would probably do the trick. But I don't know how, like, I'll be honest with you. I've never seen chimpanzees fighting before. So I don't know if they can get knocked out easily. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how hard it is. Do they have like really hard, like thick skulls compared to us?

Is it hard to, I have no idea. A little more food for thought. A chimp is around 50% stronger than an average Joe Joe a big and athletic man can easily be twice the strength of an average Joe I don't think I don't think that math is correct. I think chimpanzees are stronger than That man all of you. This is like what doctor is saying this well You know, they're both 50% strong is saying this, well, they're both 50% strong. What are you, what? Who, who, who's measuring this?

What the fuck are you doing? Maybe if the chimp was really old and weak or something, but that's it. He's saying that a chimp is 50% stronger than me, personally. Yeah, but. And that a big and athletic guy can be 100% stronger than me. But I'm saying I don't know where he's got his math from

and I don't trust his math. Absolutely not. Chimps are capable of acts of deadly violence. That does give our cousin an advantage over an average Joe, but chimpanzee fans are either unaware of or overlooking a human's capacity for violence. I love the way I look. They've got their chimp colored glasses on.

They've got their chimp colored glasses on. They got their chimp colored glasses on. We simply can't see it for what it is. This is what makes Quora the best forum, I think I would call it a forum. It is. That you see repeated references to the concept of chimpanzee fans. Yes. I mean- I just want, but several people in the thread are like, Hey,

can the chimp Dick writers go somewhere else? Go to chimp.com. If you're going to act like, I love the idea of the reason Quora Quora is such chum for dumb guys that like, because it is, Oh, you know, the questions are stupid, first of all, but then there's no quality control on the answers. So like you can ask the world stupid as fucking question and the world's stupidest guy will show up and answer the question for you. And like nothing gets done. It's so wonderful. It's such a great website. He goes, there are humans who are capable of the same degree

of deadly violence and aggression as chimps. Men and women put away a maximum maximum security prisons because they're too savage and dangerous society. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. It sounds like you've never heard of something known as murder. This guy's like, filling people in on the concept of that. There are people in prison. Have you ever heard of prison? Yeah, they don't just put them there for like stealing and stuff. Some of them have taken lives.

This, I really, this is a really good, I feel like I've always loved Quora, but it does feel like the Quora, the questions, the MMA Quora people, it's like a really sort of good little niche of Quora. They're great. They're very advanced. Yeah. He goes, child soldiers growing up murdering and raping in third world countries, gangsters in a criminal syndicate who commit violent crimes of death and mutilation that would

traumatize any normal person. He's going person all of the different types of murderers What they said before they came up with the term murder. Yeah. He goes, there are certain people with chimp like bloodlusted mentality who live to fight and kill. We need an MMA fighter with that kind of streak of violence. I think a lot of them have that. A lot of them do have that. Yeah, we need him. Like, like, like, like it's there's a chimp that's terrorizing He's got everybody yeah, and he's going to local supermarkets and

Listen the chimps have picked their guy and he is fucking waiting It's like if we shoot him then another chimp will come that's just as strong. We have to beat him up to keep him from... This has to be hand to hand to prove it. This is a great movie. Like this is a great dumb guy movie idea. It's a moral victory for them if we shoot them.

If we have to resort to guns like cowards. That will play right into their hand. That's just what they're expecting. them if we shoot them if we have to resort to guns like cowards. That will be that will play right into their hand. That's just what they're expecting. They'll never they will never let that go. A violent and depraved, big and fighting fit man who will charge full on at a charging chimp, such a man will either mortally wound the chimp before he dies or die after he kills the chimp out of berserker rage and disregard Chimps are not made of steel. They're strongly

Thank you professor All of a sudden Socrates pops in like what if there were a steel chimp can you imagine what? And then the expertise pops in like, what if there were a steel chimp? Can you imagine what that would be? Would it be harder or would it be easier? Cause we can, he's vulnerable to lightning attacks. Are there any fighters who can do lightning? They're strongly built,

smallish flesh and blood creatures. Just because they're our closest extant kin, doesn't mean we have to crank their actual capabilities up to superhuman levels. Oh, so you're saying we're big upping them because they're our Kin, basically? Yes. I love how the people on here think. It's that. Look, I know we all want to root for chips because they're like almost the same thing as us, but they're not that good. They're not exactly the same. You notice all the hair on their body?

Yeah, that's it. It is the closest thing to like figure out the conversations that cavemen would have had with each other. This is really what like conversations were before the internet a lot of times. Like you would just be, we would just be sitting in the street

At at in front of my parents house and just fucking talking like this the whole time like oh chips are 50% stronger though. Have you heard the chimps are strong and then somebody would hate you for acting smart? like that was always the thing like I would always get fucking like like pushed around if I said, uh, apparently because they said it or obviously because those were big words and I was trying to act smart. Obviously, obviously. Yeah. So how did they say, how did they say like if they want to say that if they wanted to say that it was very clear that you were Being trying to be so far. How would I say remember that? I just remember getting It seems like obviously is a word that is just

Necessary and other I agree with you. I thought that was one of the more well-known words Yeah, honestly, it's one of the like more well known ones or one of the first ones I feel like maybe in the in like the second round of 100 words that I learned. And apparently as well as you're not say apparently I really did get into an actual fight with the guy because I said apparently he said, what do you think you're fucking smarter than me? And then I fucking said, no, I just was saying the word. And it was Aaron. Me and Aaron, that's the guy I talked about

as balls not having hair on him. And then he punched me. He also punched me for saying apparently one time. So. How is there like literacy in Ohio? Like, I don't know. I honestly couldn't tell you. Yeah. Well, it's one place in Ohio like yeah well it's in Ohio situation I'm gonna fly a bunch of

people out and drive them around my old neighborhood I showed John Collin my old neighborhood on Google Maps he's like fuck now I see yeah I gotta come out there honest I mean as soon as I get this passport I guess about the Grove port honestly I'll come and I really come for a couple of days with the baby passport I got the Grove for Port all honestly all coming I really come for a couple of days with the baby and everything still but I would love to come check out the old neighborhood Can scrawny little me survive a chimp? Maybe I can get you maybe I can get porno. Shawn to me is out there No, truly. I would let you know how much I want to hang out and meet porno Sean So do not say that if it's not a real

Good scrawny little me survive a chimp attack No. Can a strong person fight off a chip? Maybe get a very strong person. Kill a champ. Maybe not. Can a very strong person full of murderous rage and disregard for personal safety kill a smaller, somewhat weaker creature with fangs in the same killer mindset? Quite possibly. Yes. So, so can an MMA fighter defeat and kill a champ if he's a beast like the chimp is then yes But at the cost of serious injury or even death, so there's your answer Yeah because it is a risk right because you

Unless you got to have a bunch of people there to pull the chimp off or whatever Because he's gonna you know, he's gonna go you think Paul Eris is bad not releasing a fucking hole that chimp is not gonna let go Paris is bad not releasing a fucking hole. That chimp is not gonna let go. You know, I saw that this next thing I wanna read is a review of something that I once saw when I was touring, when we were doing live shows. Well, I don't remember what city we got to,

but I saw a UFC gym, branded UFC gym. Oh, I don't know what that would be exactly. Is it like a, because they don't have like the gyms that are, you know, there's different MMA gyms that they all are sort of part of, but they're not UFC specific. So one thing I, I, let me see if this is the guy. Uh, well here, I'll read you the first review from Shaman Sosa. Okay. Who gave it five stars.

This is in New York, uh, Long Island, Felix. So I'm sure the guys that work stars this is in New York Long Island Felix so I'm sure the guys the workout of the UFC gym in Long Island are cool. There's a row I bet they're terrific There's a famous guy who he's one of the one of the best MMA guys Brazilian good guy Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy who is in New York Do you know he was like the no more, Marcelo Garcia? Marcelo Garcia. I went with my brother. My brother got to take a class with him. We happened to be teaching one while he was there.

And while we were there and he got to go and I got to go watch it. It was fucking, it was sweet. Mercy, no, Marcelo was insane. I knew two guys who were like instructors at that, the Academy in Manhattan. And that was like I like went in there once and that was like I

I learned so much and oh, yeah It's like a real you like go in there too, and you're just like man. Everyone in here is so fucking tough, you know So the UFC gym in Long Island, which is probably where you find the worst people on the planet. I mean, first of all, it's Long Island. But secondly, somebody sees the UFC logo on a building that says UFC gym and you're like, oh yeah, that seems like where I'm going to go to work. Yeah.

If it's just a gym to go work out at and it happens to have UFC branding, then yeah, that's going to be where you're going to find a real, real certain brand to dip shit in there. For sure. Oh yeah, no, that, like, if you are in the Trump administration and you wanna recruit people for like a false flag against Iran, I mean, I don't wanna help you,

but like if you have to do it, you know where to go. Well, Shaman, so, so said gives it five stars He goes I see many people complaining about UFC gym now, I'm gonna tell you what I saw too many people Reviews it has 396 reviews, but it's at three point six stars. Wow, that is low That's on Google that's on Google. Yeah. Which nothing is below. Nothing's below four stars.

Ever, ever. No, ever. Yeah. Google is like the biggest, the biggest ratings inflators. It's the happy play. It's just if you're a business guy, it just like if you're a business guy, you're like, well, I got five stars on on Google. It's like that doesn't mean shit. That might as well be one star. Yelp is bad, too.

But I feel like Yelp attracts a sort of like literary guy that doesn't have another outlet. guy doesn't have another outlet. Does that make sense? He's a guy that is like, well, it attracts man cow too. So he loves to do that. Yeah. But people who like we've we've said we've on recent bonus episodes, people who just want to, they want to like write stuff. They want people to hear them writing and like using literary things and language and

stuff. Yeah. It's really fascinating. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. What 100? I've read so many unnecessarily long Yelp reviews. And to a man, it's all people who like, the process of them signing up for Yelp was just imagining someone reading one of their reviews going,

you know, I don't usually do this, but I'm a publisher at Random House. It's definitely such a good way of describing things. And I know it just, you're just like reviewing Ohala hand's good time grill and pub. But like, I felt like I was reading, it has like a literary quality to it. Don't change what you're doing at all. Yeah how does four hundred thousand dollars your first book song?

Listen to this man cow has been doing reviews again. Oh good. Yeah, he he Oh Felix Yeah, you would we've read some as he does so much name dropping in his I think it is. No, that can't be the real him. The man I know wouldn't reason to that. The Berghof restaurant in the Loop, Chicago, where I probably wouldn't go. I mean, there are good restaurants in the Loop, but the Loop is not like. But the rule this far. Have you been there? Have you been there, Felix?

So to this restaurant, I think you're out there. Yeah, but like this actual restaurant where they have. OK, sweet. So this is going to be helpful to us, because you'll be able to sort of, you know, if Mankow says something, you might be able to refute it or agree. Well, OK.

So the Burghof is a famous eating establishment in Chicago. It is a German restaurant. He probably loves that. Lots of cabbages and encased meats. But the thing is, I've not been there in like 20, 20 odd years. If Mancow says something, it just means that's how the burp off is now. Okay. Rather than it contradicts me. That's what I- I see. So you think you, so you're saying that you don't want to make it seem like you

and Mankow disagree on a bunch of stuff. No, I don't think because we don't. Yeah. Yeah. Because one star. And he says this pains me. Went to my class reunion. Sweet April didn't age so well, okay man cow see That's so gross he's doing stick though like see he does he thinks like, you know, some of my listeners are reading this though Obviously, I mean, it's not just regular people

Obviously they want a little bit of the cow, you know a little bit of the cow, you know? He goes, Berghof is like my April best in the rear view mirror and memories are blurry faded snapshots. What happened to all the great German places and Chicago? He does say C H I C O W G O. It's still Chicago to me. God damn it. He's the only guy saying it now.

Berghof is to German food like what Olive Garden is to car repair. May I give you one example? Chicken schnitzel with marinara sauce. Boom Berghof goes down. How can anyone involved argue with me over this one? Again, a German restaurant serving chicken schnitzel with marinara sauce. What was that mess? Oh, no more rye bread. As a child on a dare I licked a cow salt lick. It was exactly what the sauerkraut tasted like tonight. I don't know how you can make sauerkraut taste more horrible, but they did it. The gravy had the consistency of jello. Lumpy. The red cabbage had major patches that were blackity

black. Why jello is not lumpy. It's fair. That's actually true. It's 100 percent true. It's maybe one of the least lumpy foods. Yeah, it's not at all. The guy he goes, I want to love this place. When it closed last time, I wept. This time it will be like old Yeller being put out of its misery due to rabies.

The building, that neon, the history history I really was rooting for this place. But alas, it's time to put Berghoff to sleep for good. So man count funny enough was on the radio and has had a public and he still is like maybe somebody will have me write a trip guide or something like that. Yeah. He will see to me it does. It screams to me that he's kind of doing his show still to the people. You know what I mean? He's still kind of like just doing his shtick and entertaining the people and Hey, they won't let me on the radio anymore, but they'll let me on Yelp.com. And he did. There is one where he says a recent one where he says it's for a place called Galatois Restaurant in New Orleans.

And he gives it one star and goes, past its prime, long past, but needn't be. I like the dress code. So I can only imagine how racist that dress code is. Oh my God, yeah. It's probably like no crew neck anything. Like, if you're wearing a t-shirt under your shirt, like get the fuck out of here.

He says, the main dining room is a knockout. Really like stepping into a more civilized gilded age. Problem? Uh-oh, our waiter was so rude, just ruined it. What's the star of the menu, I asked. And he said, I hate that question. It's all good. We've read this one before. Because I remember that one specifically.

What's the star of the menu? He asked him, which is such a fucking, you know what I mean? Probably this guy had a big question. Yeah, he had him pegged. I think that's what we said last night. The waiter was just like, the server's like, that's fucking asshole.

You know what I mean? Like, what another one of these kind of fucking guys. Well, he does, Man Cow replies and goes, okay, what are you famous for? I inquire politely everything. He mumbles looking away. Well, fuck, I think to myself. So the food, he didn't like the turtle soup and the service room. The guy had a chip on his shoulder and man cow. He goes, management can look up my ticket, man cow, Mueller and figure out who serves me on November 13th, 2024. I totally forgot that because then at the end he says,

I was sent there by the Walton and Johnson radio show. I remember that part of it at the end too, that he's like, and just in case it's not enough. Yeah. I'm a friend of Walton and Walton as well. I love, I love, I love how like multiple people, there's multiple levels of people failed band cow here. Everyone did, you know, every Walton and Walton, the waiter, the restaurant for not finding this guy and firing him and possibly, you know, calling authorities, the government for letting it happen. The guy that hired this guy, the guy who hired him at the end of the day is Possibly, you know calling authorities be killing him or letting it letting it happen The guy that hired this guy who hired him at the end of the day is really where it all starts

You know taking a chimpanzee on him or a bloodthirsty man You know what I have to say about this whole thing about what happened to man cow the cruelty is the point? I have what I'll read you one of these reviews because it's a very smart guy that went to the UFC place and he goes upon first glance. There's a one star review. UFC gym appears to be a fitness enthusiast utopia, boasting an expansive layout.

The space is thoughtfully designed to cater to a variety of fitness goals. Oh, buddy, I already know why you sky gave a one star because the library is that way, nerd. You buddy. Come on. He goes, the array of equipment available is impressive. It's a place where one can easily lose track of time. However, the seemingly perfect fitness haven harbors a less appealing reality,

especially when one decides to part ways with it. This is a gym. I love that the process of canceling a membership would test the patients of even the most Zen like individuals. I found myself paying for an additional month though, though I canceled before the next billing date, according to their quote terms of service. Moreover, quote terms of more Moreover, the gym seems to have adopted a philosophy that every cent counts, but perhaps not always in the member's favor. This approach to business.

Wait a second, this business is going with a money first, like a profit first approach? Here, that's, yeah, I wouldn't like that either. While perhaps beneficial to UFC's bottom line, can leave a sour taste in the mouth of those who frequently use the gym and enjoyed It for the time being I hope that the gym will fix its exit project Process so that there won't be another me complaining in the review section. So I really hope there isn't another you Well Felix I wanted to do one more thing here because of a famous tweet of yours.

And I just know for a fact that you're a big fan of Krav Maga. Oh, I know. My only experience with Krav Maga is JJ McCartney, who used to call and say the word shirt over and over again for years on end, a radio host, and it would drive him insane. He claimed that he knew Krav Maga and was going to use it to end my life with his bare hands. But I don't really know.

It's the thing. Is it from the IDF? Is that? Yeah, it is a rally unarmed combat system. And there are a lot of there are a lot of like, you know, army combatives type things like this. I mean, the US Army is just called army combatives. The Marines have one that's some stupid acronym.

The Russian one has, it's an acronym and they didn't mean it, mean for it to be this, but it is a racial slur if you pronounce it a certain way and you're definitely the russians didn't mean that no no it was invented by the soviets they wouldn't do that okay i don't think uh the israelis have krav maga and krav maga has the most aggressive marketing of all these systems. Yeah, it really does. I mean, JJ McCartney, he's a big pro Israel guy, but it just seems like, yeah, it made

its way into sort of popular culture as a thing where you just know of it even if you don't know that it's associated with the IDF necessarily. It seems to me that it is the perfect sort of thing that like somebody like me that hadn't Felix had the best tweet about it, like a very long guy, but a person like me would, I had been under the impression for a very long time that it's the toughest possible martial art to learn. Like it's the it is like if somebody tries to kill you, you're always going to win. Now I've learned since that Steven Seagal's thing is the one that is the top one.

Chris, it does. They do stuff in it. They call it bullshido a lot on the MMA board. Yeah. And they do a lot of stuff in it where like like in the movies where you grab the guy's gun from him and like take it apart and put it down. You know what I mean? Like showing showing he's just kind of as you do it. Stuff like that. It is like sort of like they have a good it's they have a good lobby. You know what I mean? Like they can go out there and they can get you to believe that they're the toughest guys in the world, but they kind of something that they're kind of good at. I feel like in general.

That's true. Or we're at least historically. This is from our MMA and it goes, thoughts on Krav Maga for self-defense. Been training at an MMA gym for a while and I've had some fun But ultimately don't care for the sport at all. I have no Yes Even call it that Because I have no desire to spar with friends or compete in MMA My only reason for doing this is to be competent and self-defense a Krav Maga gym just opened in my city. Should

I switch? The first guy goes, be very careful with Krav Maga. Anyone can just open a place and teach eye pokes and dick kicks and call it Krav Maga. There's no regulation. That's how you know you got a good martial art. It's when people can do a bunch of bullshit and pass it off as the thing that you're doing. you know? So so is so is it just to be clear, is it complete bullshit? Is there like, yes, it's complete bullshit. OK. So so it's not respected in martial arts circles at all. Or OK, sweet. No. Yeah. Anything where people are like, hey, if a guy

points a gun at you, you can do this. And especially something where it's like pre-rehearsed things, that is completely made up. It's bullshit. It's nothing. Any martial art where there's no live training, you can't spar. You can't spar because it's like, OK, we're going to go kind of hard today,

so only take out one of the guy's eyes. Yeah. There's no sparring. That's one of the reasons they all tell this guy, that's brilliant. It's not gonna get you anywhere. That's actually so smart. I just thought of it as like,

oh no, you can't do sparring because you'll kill somebody because it's too hardcore. And so they can't. It's genius. Yeah, no, you can't do sparring because you'll kill somebody because it's too hardcore. And so they can't ever. It's genius. Yeah, no, it is genius because it's like, it's like you can't spar because it's too hardcore.

And oh, why isn't every Krav Maga guy like the champion of every division of the UFC? Because it's like, it's just too hardcore for the UFC. They won't allow it. They would, yeah. Yeah, like they can't be having people literally getting their heads knocked off on live He goes he goes where's he at here You can up this guy goes sparring is how you get good

You must pressure test your skills a get good at them and be be able to use them in a high-pressure self-defense scenario. Krav Maga typically does absolutely no sparring or training against the resisting opponent under the guise of being quote too dangerous or quote too effective. Usually that means it doesn't work against somebody who's aggressive and or athletic and the coach can't risk exposing that fact. If you aren't enjoying MMA, I'd recommend you specialize in a specific striking like boxing, kickboxing, or Muay Thai, or grappling art like wrestling judo or BJJ. You may enjoy it more and they'll all prepare you for self defense far better than Krav or get a CCL and pick up running. That's really the best self defense. This guy gets told so many times to just run, but he refuses to, he refuses to like, like confront that

that's the job. And then this guy goes, you cannot be competent at self-defense without sparring. So if you don't want to do that, you may as well quit entirely. And then this guy is very helpful. He says more like crab McGay. Am I right? Yeah, that's true. So, so what's the one is there any videos like those funny videos online of like Krav Maga guys getting fucked up by real fighters sure of it because Felix you will know I'm sure what is the like what's that famous martial art that like It's the one that Steven Seagal does, I think, but there's other people who do it. And he's a keto or whatever. Well, my ex girlfriend whose titties I sucked did Akito. Oh, cool. The so is it like, holy shit.

What she said, I thought it was real. She is like, it's the toughest martial art. You do mostly stuff with your legs. So if there's that one, though, that where they yeah, they there's all these like masters or whatever that just kind of push people away. That's that's that there are a few things like that. Yeah. I think one of the most popular ones is called Systema. I don't that's definitely not the name that I know. But like it might be just like the I know a different name for it. But it's those basic like bullshit martial arts and then they go and fight a real martial. There's there was one guy in China who is going around beating

up all these guys, all these like guys who do who did like this fake sort of MMA or martial arts training. And I just would love if this is the case with Krav Maga. Those are the funniest videos, you know, the guys who are so confident. Yeah, that girl I dated used to tell me I'm in Akito all the time. And I was like, oh, that's tough. I never saw her fire or anything like that. And her mom was never home. So I don't know how she got the classes or anything,

because I was always over there, you know, getting in there. It's so rare. I've never heard of a woman and keto practitioner. anything because I was always over there, you know, getting in there. It's so rare. I've never heard of a woman and keto practitioner. I think she was a liar, like as in like. I, it seemed like she did a lot of lying. She did a lot of lying down while you sucked her titties. Sorry, Felix. Go ahead.

This is, this is very interesting. I recently made a post about this, about how there used to be distinctly gendered styles of lying between men and women. And how a woman liar was far, far different than a male liar. Agreed. The stig styles of lying, and that's been changing over the years. I think the internet changed that.

In 2014, there was a girl who's friends was on Twitter and she would say thanks to me like, yeah, I go on 18 mile walks at night to prepare for being a psychologist for Delta Force. That's a male lie. It's such a male lie. But what Brian is discovered here was a rare pre- mass internet availability female liar who stopped who lies in the style of a man to the point that they're doing Aikido one of the preferred hobbies of the male

liar. I remember her saying it and then me going around and telling people my girlfriend's fucking tough. She does Aikido. I don't know why I Brian just like a little fucking newborn baby looking up from the teat Felix before we get out of here. There's something man Chris have to show you was Felix's post. Oh This was so long ago. Yeah, it was really long I just feel like I don't want to be, but I just know if I listen to a podcast and they've mentioned it and then it doesn't get, you know,

some people might be like, I want to hear the post, you know. I god, this is like 10 years ago or more. Yeah, there's a post on my old account. It sort of sounds like feel. Is there some saucy language in there, Felix? No, no, no, no. I can I can actually. Yeah, it did actually

sound like this was 10 years ago. We didn't always bad to say that. You remember what it was like that boy, right? Like I can help out Felix because there is a post that in this Reddit thread that is almost kind of what you were getting at. The guy goes, is Krav Maga God good for self defense, buddy? The only is Krav Maga good for self-defense? Buddy, the only time Krav Maga works is when they're using it against a star population after weeks of F-16 carpet bombs. Krav Maga is a joke of a martial art.

You might as well get training from a Pilati-style kickboxing class geared toward middle-aged moms losing pregnancy weight. You'd come out more competent. losing pregnancy weight you'd come out more competent that guy really obliterated this sort of like collegial atmosphere that was that what he is right that was that guy's post because that was pretty well like that was good enough that I felt I thought for a second that might have been Felix's post you know what I mean like this is like Yeah, yeah, it's very close Felix me and Chris have to

For the last few minutes here We have to there's been a big news story recently that I think you would be very interested in Okay, a guy that we really like has started a prank YouTube Greg over use Oh no. Oh no. Oh, I didn't know. And his name is Greg Opie Hughes. Yeah. Ah! Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh, I told Opie unleashed. He is unleashed. He is unleashed. When was he leashed? Felix, Felix, Felix. You don't, you cannot even imagine.

It is so ridiculous, the things that he is calling pranks or whatever, or how he's like owning people out on the street It is he is really rebranding himself It's like a on the street kind of like fucking what like a youth like the young people aren't even doing that anymore that shit's Over with but he's going back to it like Internet meta of like the year 24 year 2014. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Back then when they did pranks, the people knew they were being pranked. Oh, he's a little different in that regard. So Felix, you might be saying like, Oh, that sounds kind of cool. So he keeps it. No, no. I mean

like at the end of it, they still don't know that they've been here. I'm going to play one that me and Chris watched on Sunday for you. This is one of our is this the is this the famous one at the John Lennon? Yes, this is the Yoko Ono one from last Sunday. OK, here we this was where Lenin, you know, met his maker basically. And people do exactly what I do every single day. So here we go. Here we go. Here comes the prank. Felix, don't miss it.

Don't miss it. There's Yoko on getting out of the car. Yoko. That's Yoko, right? Oh, I thought it was Yoko. That's yoga, right in order to circle back. You didn't even know. In what fucking universe would people watch this and be like, like besides us? Yes. Like someone who doesn't know who the fuck this is.

Yeah. It is like, oh my god, I have to show my friends this out. Dude, the thing is, nobody is, nobody is watching it. He's getting very, very low numbers on these. So yeah, it's not, because yeah, it does not appeal to anybody. There's not a single- I'm having a little chaos.

Shit, I'm fucked up. Well, I think we can find one. Here's a new one that I haven't seen yet. His prick was saying, hey, Yoko. Security guards were like, no, it's's not her and he was like got her I gotta get the fuck out of here, and then he runs away Oh my god I mentioned it before that was like my first ever episode of not even a show

I did a fake street prank thing where it was like a take on that where I would walk up to people and just be Like hey, what are you getting like orange Julius or Dairy Queen there, And you'd be like, Dairy Queen. I'm like, Oh, nice. And then I'd be like, I turned to the camera like, Oh shit. And that's literally what he's doing. Not as a joke. It's like, I love the way that his mind works because like we talked about this last time about how he's the last thing that we were. I was on where we were talking about his new enterprise, how it was like he was clearly going for like a Joe Rogan type persona. Oh, yeah. But now he's like he probably like,

you know, his kid probably told him about Aiden Ross and he's like, oh, I bet that's one of those YouTube prank guys. Well, like I, you know, I have like, you know, 70 years of entertainment experience. I mean, I could do better pranks than anyone. I got to check this one out. I got to feel it. My phone's got a front face camera on it. I mean, what's what else? Stopping me from getting over the Internet.

Aiden Ross has never he's never done the stuff I've done. Yeah, you know, he would survive a war with Howard Stern like I did. He's he's never he's never interviewed the stuff I've done. Yeah, he would survive a war with Howard Stern like I did. He's never interviewed the president before like I have. Everyone's like, oh, shit. Now here's another one, Felix. I think you're gonna like this one. This is where he went to the Seinfeld's diner. Oh, this one's fucking good.

This one's good, this one's good. Tom's restaurant, the Seinfeld restaurant, that's right. I'm gonna get kicked out obviously. He's gonna obviously That's right. I'm gonna get kicked out obviously. He's gonna obviously get kicked out. I'm gonna get kicked out obviously. He's like obviously I'm gonna get kicked out. I mean, it's a restaurant. You can't just go in there.

Yeah. And it's like the Seinfeld restaurant, like a tourist sort of location, meaning you can't go in there and take photos and sort of hang around there. They would be like, what the fuck is going on? Why are you doing this? I'm going to get kicked out, obviously.

Now let's watch the video. Let me just try to. Let's see what this looks like inside. This is uncomfortable. Oh, I agree. Oh, my god. Even whispering. He's just showing a picture.

Now he's gone into the... I just remembered that you guys are only listening here. He's gone into the Seinfeld Diner now and he's just... He's got a photo of the cast, an autograph. That's what he's saying, oh my god, to. And he's whispering, oh my god, so nobody hears him. He's whispering in a loud diner in New York City. But these people are being so pranked.

It's crazy. He's such a piece of shit. Well, why do you hear this? Oh my god. He's looking at other photos now. Oh my god. He's like, oh, look, more photos. Wow.

He's just a little known fact about this restaurant. You know, the cheeseburger cheeseburger bit from John Belushi. Yeah. With the old timers, John Belushi did the classic cheeseburger cheeseburger skit for SNL. It wasn't done here. Oh, oh, that's the prank, I think.

That might be the prank. Oh, oh, oh, wait, maybe. Oh my god, they're letting me walk around in the point. I think that might be the prank. Oh, wait, maybe. I got there, letting me walk around in the restaurant. Just walking around, looking at stuff. Wait, he's doing the Seinfeld music, though. Do you hear that? Yeah. And that's the prank feeling. What the fuck? Fuck. He didn't get kicked out like he thought he would. And that's the prank feeling

Get kicked out like he thought he would but It was probably because they didn't even know what the fuck dude They were probably in the they were probably going in the back to call the police or whatever They didn't want to confront him themselves like his fit like old guys love telling you shit about John Belushi. That's true. Like, all that shit. Like every old person, or every, like, old guy, specifically, Opie's age, will just,

like, any reason to bring up John Belushi or, like, the Blues Brothers or any of that stupid shit, they'll take it. So that didn't even surprise, they were like, oh, this is another old guy talking about John Belushi. I'm just gonna turn my brain off. I'm just gonna think about times that my cat got in a shoe box. Yeah. The first week he did it, he went to where John Lennon,

like people gather for John Lennon, and he basically was like, I'm photo bombing these people. But he was pointing the camera at them and they didn't notice they were being photo bombed. And he was whispering to himself like, I'm so photo bombing these people. And it was like- I'm so photo bombing.

Yeah. God. And it was, yeah, he kept doing this this, his big running gag that became quite famous in our world, at least on the stream and the bonuses, he was saying to them like, oh yeah, people don't come out here and take pictures here all day long. It was his big joke was to say that like, oh yeah, like you're the first one to do this. Like people aren't out here all day long and he must have said it 50 or 60 times. And it's like, yeah, it's a tourist place for one of the most famous people in the history

of like entertainment. Of course people are there. He's just this new lease on life he has, which will end within two weeks or three weeks. I think he's got at least a year to live. What are you talking about? Or oh, sorry. The pranks will end. Oh, yeah, yeah, because he's he is not above putting his tail between his legs and trying something different.

He'll do whatever. Just that like hashtag Patrice and stuff like that, you know, like using that type of shit. Like he is just the most desperate person to get back in the spotlight of anybody that we've covered. You know, he's so desperate and so unaware of how to do it. He has no clue how to do it, you know? He's heard pranks are good. So that's what's going on.

Felix, we want to thank you for coming on the show. Well, I was going to say my pleasure, but I'm going to be up all night thinking about Opie's fucking... This is so upsetting. It's like, I hate thinking about how he decided to do these things. Yeah. I hate thinking about him like getting to the destination, like him on the train.

And he's like, obviously I have my game plan, but I'm a great ad-libber. Oh yeah, he's like, I just need like a sort of curb your enthusiasm style script for this. I don't really need to know all the lines. Oh god, it's so... It's like... It is like the most humiliating that something can be without it happening to you. It's so crushing. It is the depths of human desperation. I do apologize. Felix, I didn't know he was going to do that, but I'll admit, as soon

as he did sort of bust it out, it made me really happy that we did show that Chris loves the OP prank chat. But I think the thing about it that gets me is that like, you know, with street fight, there were times where we threw around the idea of like doing man on the street stuff, not pranks. I don't think it was like let's go out and interview people Yeah And bought the equipment and then just once you get out there and you're you have the microphone with you and stuff like that I just I couldn't do it. I was just like that man. This guy's just walking. He doesn't need to be in my world Yeah, different thing.

It's a different I don't know how Eric Andre and people like that do it because like I I have a prank channel, obviously. And like, but when you're standing there face to face with another human being in their space and you're like sharing that moment together and you're doing this really humiliating kind of thing or trying to embarrass them or whatever it is, I couldn't do it. I did it a couple of times in the beginning and I was like, this ain't for me at all. But neither can Opie at this point. Yeah. No, he didn't know. Yeah. Less than zero capability of doing it. He's I can tell what he wants to do, but he loses his nerve almost instantly.

Yes. Yes. There's no, that's in all the videos in all the videos that it happens in that exact same way where it's like very clearly sort of chickens out to use it Yeah, yeah restaurant prank if opi of 2007 was in that restaurant He would have been yelling and be like oh look at what's hot you know what I mean like yeah I'm like actually what a son an intern to do it Yeah, he would have had it He would have had people with him if he had his boys

You know Anthony you know if he had racist Anthony and sort of some of his other fucking people with him. But I don't think like Jay Moore was if Jay Moore was like, if Jay Moore was with him, he would have made him fucking full of himself. I'm sure if Jay Moore was there, he would have like brought a gun in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And Jay Moore would have been like, you don't got to do that, man. Like, let's just do it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like it's so the like that's the I think one of the most depressing aspects is that you see him lose like more and more of his self mythology, the more stuff like this he does. And when the camera goes off, he has to face that. And it's really sad to think about. Yeah. But then you think like, maybe he'll have some type of realization. But then I find out things like what you guys told me that he was offered, like $300,000 or something to do a radio show. He was like, no, not even in my ballpark. Like, yeah, he won't. And it's just can't accept where he is now. You know, he won't accept.

Well, yeah. And it's like, have you ever seen someone like this who so routinely gets beaten down by the world in ways that are so specifically Have you ever seen someone like this who so routinely gets beaten down by the world in ways that are so specifically their own fault? Like they are daring the world to remind them of how far they have fallen, how much they have lost. And still, they just can't internalize it quite enough

to make any life altering decisions. I don't know how it would be. just can't internalize it quite enough to make any life altering decision. I don't know how it would be. I can't speak for that. Of course I would. I have never and will never reach the fame of Greg Opie Hughes. And so I can't imagine what that experience is like, but I think there are other people who have handled it with a lot more grace, you know, Man Cow! Man Cow! I don't know that He's used grace either I would

Show he man Cal does he he did do a show I think he figured out this is pointless because the thing I think when you're talking about when Opie has a moment of kind of realization I think it's when he gets the direct deposit from YouTube and like he sees the 60. He can't. There's not even getting 60. Well, but you can subscribe to him now. Oh, I see.

That's right. So it's getting that little thing. And I when I think he I think he direct deposits it and he doesn't look at the bank. I think he has his account and sort of deal with that kind of stuff and Make sure he knows what he's bringing in Chris. Oh, yeah, right I think he checks his analytics. I think you're right Yeah, and I think he sees like $70 a month and he's just like fuck dude. I'm really far away You know what I mean? Yeah

He doesn't say I'm done. He says, Oh, I'm really far from where I need to be. That's that is a marathon, not a sprint. It's an, it's admirable in a way. But again, we've also seen videos of him at his apartment now where the lighting hits his face in such a way. And it, and you realize that this is an older grandpa, you know? And you're like, oh, fuck, man. Like maybe just hang out with your kids or whatever. I don't know how old his kids are or, you know, but like. I mean, he had them when he was still doing Opie and Anthony. So they got one of them is probably a teenager.

I mean, I mean, man, I'm not saying he doesn't, obviously, and he probably has time to do both. And, you know, but it's just, yeah, like you think at some point when you get that old and your body starts to break down a little bit and stuff that you would hang it up. But I don't think he ever will. I think he's going to go on. Yeah. is he is one of those guys that's going to be like Joe Biden. Like he's going to live till like 98 and he's going to be like fully mobile during all of it. So he's you're going to see like a lot of you're going to see another 40 years of this shit. Yeah. And again, think about think about being his kid who's coming home from like Vassar for the holidays.

And your dad is your dad like got his haircut like Aiden Ross. It is like 78. He's doing my dad does pranks. My dad does pranks. You should go to my dad's prank channel. Like go to the prank channel and then you're fucking looking at these pranks and they're terrible.

And again, we've we watched a beer show. He used to do this thing called the beer show where he would like talk about different craft beers at a bar in Manhattan that believe me, they had to kick him out. They couldn't. He wasn't allowed to. Now he has to do it in the basement of the bar. Customers were complaining. And I don't know if some of the customers complaining on online might have been listeners of ours who know the name of the location.

But he ended up now he's like down in the basement with all the kegs or whatever. It's really sad. Yeah, it just is like the fall is he is at the bottom and it's like If he has enough money to live oh Brian, that's a false floor looks like he's gone through the Hey YouTube to be on I Can't get over bitch right kids kids coming- And he's today like whispering pranks to himself in the street while people walk by him.

I just, I imagine, yeah, like you're right, he will still be doing it, but like, oh my God, man, like I got to, like 30 years from now, can you imagine he's doing something along these lines as a like 88 year old man? Yes. I would bet money on it. Yes, I would bet money on it. Yeah, I bet money on him doing this until he dies. And it's like like his kids, you know, like the type of types of kids, right,

who like grow up in Manhattan and have like well off parents are like for the most part, like very urbane, like really cool. Like, my brother went to Vassar, which is like a pop, you know, it's a popular school for like, kids from that general area, you know, kids, either from like Manhattan proper or like the surrounding suburbs who are like incredibly urbane and like, you know, like proto hipsters around the time that he went to school.

Now, and like, that's probably like what Opie's kids are like. Imagine being that and that's your dad. Yeah, that's like they probably tell people like, no, my dad overdosed in 2011. I actually don't know who my dad is. Your dad knows famous people that you don't know about? Like, like, like, like again, Jay Moore, like, oh, my dad knows Jay Moore. Who the fuck is Jay Moore? You know what I mean?

The only thing you can brag about. Even you couldn't even explain it to them in a, you know, like a, you know, satisfactory way anymore either. Cause you look at old picture of J more a new one and it's two different guys as well. It's so confusing. But no, I, he's just one example. It's like, Oh, you know, his kid comes home is like, uh, uh, he's like, you know who I hope he's like, I remember back when we

would have TJ Miller on the show all the time. And then the kids like that, you know? Yeah. All of this guy's like, Oh man, you know who is a great guest of ours? Louis CK. That's the other, that's the other thing. It's like, obviously he's bringing up like people that like his kids and their friends have no like he's like, oh man I could tell you stories about Tom Papa No one gives a fuck about and no one actually cares bread-making motherfucker. Yeah, that's yeah, that's good That's I I really do love the idea of OPP. You know his kids interacting with them, but but but like you know, his kids interacting with him. But but but like also all the people that don't fall

in the J Moore or Tom Papa category of like, who the fuck is that? If you're, you know, under 24 are like insane criminals who are infamously like his business partner, the guy who is his name is like tied to like Opieiate Anthony is a literal Nazi pedophile He sold compound for $80,000 and I was semi impressed but then I was like man that was his life's work I think I was saying it's a craziest amount ever It's like it's not like it's you either sell it for one dollar like $80,000 is a crazy amount to sell a company for There are there are like

So many shows that like we're on compound that make so much fucking money. They are like incredibly popular. Yeah, Shane Gillis was on compound for a period of time. Well, probably like the biggest comedian in the country. Yeah, he's doing a fucking arena down the street for me. In an arena in Vancouver, too. He's probably the biggest stand up comedian in the world right now. It's fucked up.

I bet you he would not talk to Anthony in public is no what no Anthony tries to contact Shane Gillis like one of those like Sean Ryan type guys will snap his neck Oh, yeah, like we've been instructed sir. No, it will be club soda Kenny, of course Similar to the billboard for situation club soda Kenny, of course Similar to the billboard situation club soda Kenny, I believe Um, he I think he might just do anti kumia security now like He doesn't do security for any particular person that's my turning on Kumia turning on rogan a couple months ago was fucking great, man Just great. He's like even see see that he's like, I use.

I send Joe Rogan birthday cards and Christmas cards and stuff. Like cards, you fucking 85 year old man. I send him gifts for his birthday and I send him stuff. And like now he doesn't even mention me. I haven't been on a show in a long time, but he wouldn't go straight up like I'm turning on him, but he was like, I'm just, it's a wait and see thing with me. And I was like, Joe Rogan doesn't care. And it's so fucked up to say that because Joe Rogan had him on the show like fairly

recently, like well years ago. Yeah. Like he had him on when he was like persona non grata and like gave him like a chance to get back in the spotlight again. He squandered it of course, but yeah, it's just funny. It's funny to say I send him Christmas cards and then he was like, and then he would send me Christmas cards and those stopped coming. So I'm not really sure what's going on. And it's like Joe Rogan doesn't send those Christmas cards. Joe Rogan doesn't sit down at a table and write Merry Christmas Opie or Merry Christmas Anthony, you know what I mean?

And but yeah a team does it for him but the reason that that team used to do it for him and no longer does it for him and your is because the point that Felix brought up before about you being a Nazi Pedophile that's the reason why I think they don't want to have that sort of like yeah If I was Anthony and I knew these things about myself I would be like Joe Rogan had me on the most popular podcast in the world that does video by the way despite my horrifying Appearance. Oh, yeah, it does video. It's like, which is not not even fair with the way he looks like honestly.

A like pockmarked pedophile Nazi just screams the N-word while streaming Call of Duty on like Snapchat or something. He's doing it on youtube by the way he had him on the biggest show in the world yeah well i i would be like well he tried like he tried to help me and he shouldn't have yeah like like you need to have some self-awareness yeah what is like if i think about what is the most objectively smart and correct thing for him to do, it was not to help me. And I would go, well, I guess his multinational corporation sized office didn't send me a

Christmas card. That's okay. He risked the intense reputational hazard of being seen with me. Yeah. You can't say that he can't be sitting around in his house thinking like all those famous people still like me. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, really the real thing is like he's crossed over a line where it's just like nobody can be seen with him. Not even like that's fucking Gavin. McKenna Gavin McKenna. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah. But I bet Steve Bannon would be nervous to be in a picture. Yeah. Well, because he's worried about it. Another guy who's going to look way harder than him. Well, thanks for doing the show, Felix. It's always fun. Choppo Trap House. Do you got anything else going on? You want to plug? Oh, no, just, you know, seeking seeking a friend at the end of

the world. Our series about conservative media is all the I think all the all six main episodes are out. I I don't know what's going on with the postscript we recorded. I'm sure that'll be out soon. But no, thank you again for having me. I I love how like no matter what the subject is, we the gravity in the room is always Opie and Anthony. Like we always have to. I need you. I need I was so excited to show you

Opie's prank channel. It made me so happy. We talked about it. We literally talked about it when we found the channel. We're like, we can't wait to show this to Felix. He's gonna love this so much. I do think that like one day we need, and I don't think this would like get it out of our system

because I think just in the way that OP assuredly will be doing this Dilly does we similarly will um we will be watching that yeah for the day that we die I think we have to we have to do like a five hour like that's how long it would be yeah, yeah, yeah do a shocktober episode That's like just like a two-parter on it where we like really Yeah, we just like it's like like when you smoke like a hundred cigarettes or whatever at once you know to quit Well, yeah I think like the thing that the thing we have to do is if when Chris is working on getting a visa We're definitely gonna do a show in New York and we have to plan it around going to Gebhardt when he

is doing his fucking show. All three of us. Oh my God. Yeah, that's the place where he does magic happen. Yeah. We can actually go and just like meet him and hang out. I mean, we have to get out into the basement, obviously. I've been playing a lot of hitman.

I know how to like infiltrate places. All right, we'll see you all next week. I don't know what we're doing. Goodbye. Bye.