Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 121 - Music Festival Guys with Tony Boswell and Rob Whisman

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

This week we had Tony Boswell and Rob Whisman on to talk about  music festivals, what were the worst bathrooms? What should you wear? How does a genleman dress and Chris is gone so we did a game! Rob is at twitch.tv/robwhisman Tony is at Minion Death Cult There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to Guys! The podcast about guys, I'm Brian. This is my festival voice. I just went to a festival, by the way, as I've been talking about lately and they gave me the idea. Hey, there are a lot of guys at a music festival. What if we talked about them? So this week I brought on my co-host, not Chris, Tony Boswell. Hi, Tony. What's up?

Glad to be here. Glad to talk about music festivals. well. Hi, Tony. What's up? Glad to be here. Glad to talk about music festivals. I got a lot of a lot of fun insight here because they're they're actually awful and should not exist. Yeah, worst places you can have them possibly. But also it's the only place you're going to see like Ridge Against the Machine and like your favorite obscure. I think I saw Raging Against the Machine and like your favorite obscure. I think I saw Raging Against the Machine and like the Weeknd on the same day. That's fucked up. It's the only place where you can see Motley Crue and Emir in the same day.

Yeah, that's fucked up. You shouldn't be able to do that. Dude, I got to see Atmosphere and pay $10 to charge my fucking phone. Oh, Rob Wiseman's here as our guest, too. He's been to festival. What festivals do you go to? I've been to one. I went to Bunbury in Ohio in 20.

Oh, I know of that one. Yeah, I almost went. I do not like music festivals. Now, was it a camping festival? No, I don't think it wasn't a multi day, because this is the thing with me. Oh, it was a multi day. Yeah, I don't think there was I don't think people camp there, though. So here's the thing with me. I went to Woodstock 99.

Everybody knows that. Yeah, we know. We know, you know, you played in the shit. Yeah, I played in the shit. I was involved with all the bad stuff that happened. It was just that I burned a bunch of stuff. Actually, everybody knows I left early because that'll feed into what I'm about to say on that Saturday night when I got in my car and drove home before Sunday at Woodstock 99. I said, I will never sleep at a concert again as long as I live.

I will never have a tent and a parking lot at a concert. It's the worst thing in the world. And then you like start reading about Coachella where like, okay, it's hot. Coachella and Bonnaroo are two of the ones that I read a lot about where, and I'm'm sure Tony you've been to Coachella, right? Oh yeah, for sure. I think I have a I think you have a kid because of Coachella actually pretty positive. The direct correlation between when me and her mom went to Coachella and her being born. Yeah. Yeah. Tony lives

close to where it happened. So you can go to Coachella. I don't anymore. That was a long time ago. I'm, I'm an old man in my late thirties. Yeah. Who will not tolerate that type of hedonism. Yeah. And the, and the car camping, you shouldn't even be allowed to do that. And like legally you shouldn't be allowed to, to do car camping in the middle of Tennessee in the summer or in the desert in the spring. We got we got to clarify for, you know, for all the homies who are living in their cars, no car camping. If there is live music within 100 yards and if you have a house, I'm not saying you can't live in your car, but if you have a house that you can go back to or a hotel, don't do it. You can't do that.

It's too hot. Okay. And you're not cut out for it. What do people do that just for the love of the game? I think they do. I do think they do. It's gross. I've been reading so much.

So I just went to a festival called Sonic Temple and I feel like we all three have a different sort of a experience. Cause so, so I've been did like a few, I've been to Austin city limits one year and I, that was fine. Cause it was a hotel thing. I stayed in a hotel and then I just went back and forth to the place, which I find a lot of people say is a bad idea because it ruins your time, but it didn't ruin my time at all. I took a shower. It was wonderful. But yeah, so I've been to a few, the most recent one I went to, I got in for free. So I didn't really treat it as like a, I went there. It was two miles from my house. I went

there to see the bands I wanted to see and then left as soon as they were done. So it was like, it would be like, Oh, I think I got there at like seven 30 corn went on at eight 30. And then when they were done, I was gone immediately. And then the next day I, my brother wanted to see Metallica. So we went and watched Metallica, which was pathetic concert by the way. But, uh, uh, I kept walking by the campgrounds as I was leaving and coming in and just looking at them and being like, how does this work? Like, one, how do people afford it to have a camper, a VIP pass? Cause there's levels to this.

If you've ever been, there's VIP. Then there, so they go general admission stadium. That's what I had lowest level ticket. You're allowed to sit on the benches in the stadium where the hockey or soccer used to happen. That's what I got. And then there's general admission field where you can go on the floor and you can mosh and stuff like that. That's another level up. Then there's there's VIP. And then after that rock royalty,

a level above VIP. And I was just disgusted by the whole fucking thing. Like the whole VIP roping off. It's the same feeling you get when you're flying on an airplane, but not flying first class. I've met people who like, that's why they work. Just to fund a lifestyle

where they get to go to music festivals. That's the whole reason they go to work. Not. Yeah, I knew a guy that thought 2012 was going to be like. The end of the world. And he was like, I can't keep wasting my life in Ohio and went and followed festival bands around the country. Bass nectar. I've talked about it before. You involved fall with bass nectar. Yeah, Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He, he, he was just like, I gotta start living for today because the world's going to end because of my calendar. And I

think that's the type of guy that lives for these festivals. Rob, that, that is the, the, the like, cause I'm reading stuff and I'm reading. Let's just go. I'll go to the boat. Just real quick. Unfortunately, you talked about how people can afford this and all that. Unfortunately, what it is, is young people who instead of getting credit cards now, they just finance the festival. Like every festival, you can do a payment plan now.

Like people are paying for Next Year's Coachella right now in payments and installments going to debt to stink for two days in the desert. Because it honestly reads like, so this country, somebody runs all the festivals, right? Like most of them. It's not live nation. It's like a promotions company. There's a couple, but yeah. But the like all the heavy metal festivals are basically run by the same people. You know what I mean? But it's all the same bands. What they're running by a slipknot. Yes. Well, no, they're all the same bands playing the shows and they're run by some company. And I just, I like started reading through posts and stuff like that. And there are a lot of people who just go to all of

those festivals with all the same bands run by the same company with all the same. Because we have Sonic Temple here, which is a big heavy metal festival and louder than Life is in Kentucky. I think. And then we have there's another one rock on the ranch rocket. Well, Rock and Range is dead. That's called Sonic Temple now.

I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one I went to. So it's Sonic Temple. Then then Louder Than Life, then Rock, Oklahoma, which is now that's one. That's a good one. That might be one that I have to spend money and go to as a podcast project because they have a miss Rock, Oklahoma pageant. Oh hell yeah. I got family in Oklahoma has been trying to get me to come out there and I have no reason to, but maybe maybe Rock, Oklahoma is, is the calling.

Well, something I thought would be fun for this episode is to kind of read some of the, the lineups of the 2025 shows. I haven't looked at the 2024, but so rock Oklahoma, uh, United we rock is the logo. Of course that's cool. And now we got the 2025 lineup on Friday night. You're going to get five finger death punch, Marilyn Manson and Alice Cooper headlining. What a, what a game would have just awful people. I know, I know. Like every single one of those bands is, is, is, is bad. Evil. Like it's actually like an evil line up. I don't know I don't know about Alice Cooper I kind of lumped out to around there I still like to think of Alice Cooper as Alice Cooper in a Wayne's world who seems like a pretty chill, dude

Yeah, I don't want to let you see mighty cool. Oh He's religious and kind of right-wing now, so he's cool. He's just raising money to like fight the gays Yeah, and he's Christian. He's very Christian. Well, that's what I just said. But in other words, yeah, yeah. The darkness is there. Why? And this is where it's yeah. I saw them when my wife was pregnant. Um, Markie Ramone plays the Ramones. Ooh, just one Ramone. Yeah. Well, he's going to play the song. Also the Ramones notorious pieces of shit. Hinder. Oh man. That's one of those bands that you've never heard a song, but when you hear the name, you go Wolf. Wolf of an angel, man. My first blow dance. Hell yeah. Saliva.

Are they going to have like, so I wish we just think of like motor cross montages. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a stick description of a band. So Saturday night you can catch breaking Benjamin and three days grace. They are the co-headliners of that night. And then the next biggest line up of bands, Tony, I don't know how you're going to feel about this, but knock the loose Tom Morello star set and citizen soldier. You don't like knock loose. I don't give a shit about knock loose. I'm what you call. I'm what you call an old head. So I, I, I don't like a lot of stuff. They're fine. It's cool. I love that you don't

lie. Listen, Tony, I love that you don't like knock the loose. It makes me so happy because people are going to yell at you because that's what people do when you talk about hardcore. That's why I had to beat them to it. I just let them know that I'm an old guy. You know, I think it's fine. I'm good. I'm glad I knock loose is this for the kids. Maybe, you know, they'll discover trapped under ice through knock loose on accident and, you know, be free from these awful chains. Well, the aftershock festival is a festival that happens. I got to get the, uh, I think that's a Sacramento California one, uh, aftershock, which also, by the way, has a great lineup.

To be honest, isn't isn't isn't breaking Benjamin also like really bad people? Didn't they do something awful? No, I don't think you're I don't know for sure. I'm thinking of lost profits. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. That is real bad. Yeah. So this is the concert we're going to read about here. Uh, Thursday blink one 82 all time low taking back Sunday alkaline trio. There you go. That's that's Friday. Friday. Def tones, turnstile knocked loose. The Dillinger escape plan Saturday, corn go Giro Chevelle and Sunday. A name I can't read. Maryland man. They got to stop having Maryland man said at these fucking shows, he's like the most of the bad guys he's anyway.

Yeah. So this is the, this is the festival we're going to read about. This is from slit faces and he says PSA for attendees, not aware of hardcore music as the years go on and hardcore becomes more and more popular after shock has been adding more and more hardcore bands, which is amazing. But what I noticed last year with the metal core and hardcore bands such as Kubla Khan, Zulu, biohazard, et cetera, is that lots of people don't understand how hardcore pits work. Typically when a band is hardcore, there's going to be a hardcore dancing windmill, spin kicks, karate in the pit. Cause that's how the hardcore scene works. Lots of people didn't know that last year, which is all good, but I got in lots of fights and arguments because

me and my friends were bringing hardcore pits to hardcore bands instead of circle pitting. And some, some didn't understand if you're in a pit or on the outer ring of a pit during a hardcore set, you might get hit. If you're watching a hardcore set, expect karate in the pit instead of circle pitting. If you don't want to run the risk of getting hit or don't like hardcore dancing, I recommend standing away from the pit and not watching the hardcore or hardcore adjacent bands such as tsunami spice snuffed on site, knocked loose, turnstile, the Dillinger escape plan, hate breed and Zabalba. This will create a better environment for the hardcore kids and prevent those just spectating from getting hurt.

Now is that actual karate? I I've seen mashing. Listen, I consider, I consider my windmill kids kicks at martial art. Um, you know, uh, I've, I've definitely, you know, I, I, yeah, it's, uh, I, I, sometimes in the morning I do it like Tai Chi in my, on my patio, you know, yeah, it's I sometimes in the morning I do it like Tai Chi in my on my patio. You know, I just put on some hey breed and start start picking up change, start swinging hamfist, you know. It's nice to have you, Tony, because you are a hardcore.

You are kind of a hardcore guy. Oh, hey, no kind of about it, brother. Yeah, he's he loves knocked loose anded Loose and Turnstyle. Calm down. Calm down. I do love Turnstyle. Those are the boys. I've loved them forever. That album's good and you can make fun of me for liking it. I'm excited for the new one to come out. That show they just did in Baltimore looked incredible. They're like good people doing good things. Anyways, I gotta push back against this comment, because the thing is that, no, the festival,

the hardcore people need to make concessions when you go to a festival, because you're going to a festival. Go ahead and, the thing is, no, people won't fight if you're not crowd killing. These people are probably crowd killing, and that's why they're getting into almost fights. Like if the pit's open, the pit's open,

you can see what's happening, you choose to go in there. But if you're crowd killing, that sucks for you. That's lame. The homies, Speed just played Coachella and they're like a hardcore band out of Australia. And they were talking about like, it was funny because like they said you could see like the quote, you know, like normies and the hardcore kids kind of working amongst each other. And what happened more was the normies were like trying to mosh and it was more friendly though.

They weren't being as, as gnarly because you got to make concessions and like stage dives happen at everything and stage dives are the most dangerous thing. I hate stage. And I have staged. I mean, you can't hardcore. You can't do hardcore dancing when you're at a stage that's also going to feature dream theater. You know what I mean? You gotta make your concession. You might have to just do a circle pit. I don't know. So the guy responds and he goes, leave your hardcore pit at home.

Asking 70% of the aftershock crowd to accommodate your need to do karate in the pit is a surefire way to get the opposite of that. There's plenty of OG aftershock fans since the first one over 12 years ago that have managed to control their need for a mixed martial arts level pit. So that guy not happy. You see how they're how they're fans of the festival. Like that's the funny thing. Yeah, that's crazy to me. Like there are subreddits for each festival. It's not like it's not like I'm looking at our slash festivals or our slash music. There are some stuff on our slash music festivals, but that was one of the interesting things to me was like there are guys that are fans of the festival and they don't necessarily.

The bands don't matter to them. You know, I just know it's aftershock culture. Yeah, I have a question. I'm I'm more like a cat Stevens guy. What is what is this guy mad about? So at a hardcore concert, they mosh very different than they do at a metal show, a metal show, push pits. Yeah. You push it.

It's circle pits and push pits. I've seen a push pit. I think. Yeah. You might just push each other. You might elbow. There might be an elbow or two. If somebody gets out of hand and they start to like run out, you know, the people on the outside, push them back in. You know what I mean? That's all it is. It's like, it's like a self regulating thing. Now at hardcore concerts, which when I was a teenager was nerd music and I very apologize for saying that to everybody, but we thought it was dork music. You would go to these concerts very early. I I've said this before very early corn concerts had a lot of hardcore kids, Adam, and a lot of skinheads and a lot like it was like one of those things where like this new thing is happening. So everybody's

into it at that time. And that's where I first saw like hardcore pit. They were kind of roped off because it was the first show I ever went to was a mega death concert that had corn opening. So like that's awesome. Yeah. So people in like the mega death people just were a were they're intimidating. I'm going to tell you the truth. You go to a concert where mega desk plan or Metallica's plan, their fans are intimidating. They don't fuck around. They will kill you. And all dude with a big beard is always going to be a little bit threatening. Yes. Yeah. So anyway, hardcore is more about dancing because there's less people in the pit. I think is how I feel. It's less. And yeah, they just

do windmills with their arms. It's, it's a little more individualist and careless than it is. So when, when, when a guy that is a big fan of, of deftones gets in a pit and then a guy swinging his arms around punching people and like kicking them and, and doing all this stuff. He's going to be very pissed off at that guy. Cause that is against the rule. So these are two different cultures smashing up against each other, which is against the rules, but these music festivals have to do that because there really aren't enough bands to just be one genre. At the same time though, if you're like, if you decide you're going to go to the tsunami set, I mean you're

kind of aware of tsunami and you've probably seen a picture of a kid on a boogie board crowd surfing and kids windmill kicking, right? So you're also choosing to go there. Like I said, I think the only concession is just no crowd killing. I think that's the only only thing that should be, that should be changed. Well, Tony, I hate to say this, but this guy does say if anyone tries to crowd kill me, I'm beating the fuck out of them. LMAO. Yeah. So I did a few years ago, try it on someone and he was dragged into the crown, like the crown, like the walking dead and disappeared.

Lol. Hardcore dancing is dumb as fuck so he Came after you at first you're like oh, he's right and at the end. He's like No, I was killing what is crowd killing that is just beating the crap out of crowd killing is like when you're doing your little You're you know your little hammer fist throws But you're like going to the edge of the pit and like purposely hitting people who are just basically bystanders. Yeah I see. Yeah, it just is a thing that happens. Yeah. Yeah, I think it It makes sense. There was such there was such nuance to all of this. It's very fascinating There is utility in my opinion and tony you can disagree with me

There is utility to crowd crowd killing because and i'm going to tell you why there's some utility to it And you can yell at me when i'm done. I just went to this festival and, and it costs $700 more to have a floor pass where you would be in the pit. That is a fucking ton of money. Right? Yeah. It seems as though to me, and I've noticed this at other shows too, that when you make the pit that prohibitively expensive for people, then the people that are in there don't want to lose their place. Right? Yeah. So they're not moving. Yeah. Because they paid so much money and their VIPs and all this shit and they don't move. So there's no pit. Now that to me is like, Hey, I'm in a heavy

metal concert. Go ahead and crowd kill because people need to get moving. You can't have all this standing around doing nothing. You know? Well, there's a difference between like a crowd kill and like opening a pit. But you open a pit, like the move, you know, I, we would do is you kind of like, kind of like lean back into people and kind of like going off the ropes in a wrestling ring. And you kind of just like run and throw your back into people. So you're pushing them hard, but you're not hitting them, you know. You're not like punching or kicking them. You know, you don't got to do all that. And also the crowd killing has gotten out of hand now because there's like, self governance of the pit has been like ran by that.

Where like it's this mentality where they think that's like allowed. But only like back when I was younger, the whole thing was only certain people were kind of allowed to crowd kill. Because if you crowd killed and you weren't the right person, you are going to get your ass kicked because you did hit like an innocent person and you're like not part of the crew who show is playing that show, you know, and like you would get beat up. But now they just do it and it's crazy. I'm like, why are the kids not getting beat up more? Like they need to get, they need to, they need to get, some kids need to get packed out, you know, and like that's, that's true. So that, that for

the, for safety, you know, sometimes you gotta beat be people out for people's safety. I don't think that's happening as much anymore. But the shows I go to, that's not really happening at because, you know, it is a slightly older crowd. We're still pitting. Don't get me wrong. But I haven't in a while, but I haven't in a while. Let's go to our slash festivals. This wouldn't be guys, a podcast about guys. If we didn't get gross, right? Got to get gross. Worst bathroom you've ever seen at a festival. I could smell it

from 15 feet away. That's mine. So we're going to get some war stories now. This is just your bathroom. You said that's just just a bathroom. This is just describing the worst bathrooms they've ever had at a festival. And you could smell your bathroom for 50 feet away. Not mine. OK. I thought you were saying yours. I have great smelling shit. They say people that's a big Trump thing. It's not like Trump. They say I have great smelling shit.

I mean, your bathroom does smell good. Well, yeah, everything smells good around my house. I'm like a fragrance guy now. That's right. I'm fragrancing all over town. I had a lady stopped me on the street yesterday and said, you smell good. Hey, like a complimentary way. And she was not the type of lady you would think would stop somebody and say they smell good. You know what I mean? She's yelling at somebody. Uh, diet soda police says summer camp porta potties back in the day, literally each one would be overflowing with shit and with poop smeared on every

wall at the end of the weekend. It was a joke that a real summer camp veteran went all four or five days without taking a shit. Now that I have experienced, I'm going to tell you when I was at Woodstock 99, it was really hard to go to the bathroom, but I did not crap at Woodstock. Like I can make sure I don't have to crap at a place like that. Yeah. I don't think I can go four days without a bidet. Yeah. Yeah, brother. I'm with you or even just a shower. You know, this guy goes, people would make fun of me for carrying my own toilet

paper and my camel back at summer camp, but day three would roll around and people would be begging me for some guy replies. It goes, sounds lucrative. And then the next guy goes, yeah, I'm going to sell the toilet paper now by sheet or what, you know, I've noticed there's a need for toilet paper here. Would you like five, five, uh, five squares of toilet paper so that I'm selling them for $25 each five squares, $25. You know, I literally came here to say the same thing. I was camped in VIP in 2013 or 2014 and there was a literal shit mountain erupting from every toilet seat and the trailers had lights in them, which made it so much worse. Um, I'm going to read more of these, but I also had a video that we're going to watch this

where we're going to listen to a guy this week. I think you guys are going to like this guy. He, uh, he is, he is giving concert etiquette for a gentleman. So if you're wait till you see this guy concert season is coming up and a lot of you will be headed to a festival or to see your favorite band this summer. I've had many requests. Hell yeah. His eyebrows. Yeah. Why is the gentleman Oh my God. His eyebrows. Yeah.

Why is the gentleman? Oh, my God. I didn't even notice the eyebrows at first. Those are manicured. You know what's sick? This guy's doing a music thing and he has a Bauhaus poster behind him. But it's the art, not the band.

It's not that's not for the this. This poster is not for the band. It's for the art movement. Agree. It's classy. He is like, Oh, that's a really clack. Cause it's the kind of poster you would see. Like it's a classy poster. It's not like one you see on the street. You know, I was like, this guy likes goth, this guy likes goth rock. That's cool. He's going to be, Oh, nevermind. It's just, it's the it's our movement not though It's too good of a poster for him to be a real fan, you know This is so good. So this guy is called Gent Z Is easy Gen Z

He looks old as fuck listen. Listen, there's nothing you can really do guys If they say they're Gen Z their Gen Z z i think this guy might be an elderly gen z let's uh let's check out the concert outfit and etiquette if you want to be a gentleman at a concert now that's i you can go like me i don't want to be a gentleman, so let's check him out....are to be a gentleman at a concert. This video is going to cover what to wear, correct concert etiquette, and even dancing and moshing. I want you to have the information you need so that you can present yourself and behave in a way that you are proud of at these events. This video is more about rock and pop concerts where there is less of a clear code of etiquette. First of all, there is way, there's so much etiquette that even people that have been to

several shows don't know all of it. I just found out this year that crowd surfers need to cross their legs and their arms and lay like they're in a casket. I saw it. I saw people say it so you don't kick people in the head. I think that's woke gen z stuff. I thought you're supposed to spread your kind of self kind of wide so you cover more people so you're less heavy. Well we live in a woke world these days and the woke people are saying you got to cross your legs and arms in a mosh pit Or you're breaking the rules. I do like that. He's staying in his lane and is only covering rock rock and pop concerts Because those concerts have their own clear-cut etiquette like no like they don't have it. They don't Okay

heavy metal concerts have the most strict etiquette of any concert you'll go to. Like it just is there's a hundred fucking rules that you get punched in the face if you don't fall. So to say there's not a clear cut etiquette and I can't wait to see what this guy says you should wear to a rock festival. Then there would be at a classical concert opera or ballet. Although I don't go to many gigs these days, I have attended hundreds of concerts in the past, and I've performed. Okay, I want to say this. I just got to say if this guy's Gen Z and he's already saying,

I've been to too many concerts already. I think I'm done. Yeah, I just this guy's 40. I'm just going to say it right now. This guy's 40 years old. I think I think Gen Z means like he's the last Gent. Oh, I like that. I like that man. I think you might be onto something because yeah, he does look older. I mean, I go, I

go to more concerts now that I'm older than I did when I was younger because I have like the means to money. Yeah. When you have the money, it's like, Oh, I'll go to a car because like I, I bought tickets to see death tones. I told you. And that was like expensive as hell for like what it used to be. Like because you used to get tickets for $60. There used to be $60 tickets. There's not, there's no 60. I'm sounding like Trump again. There's not $60 tickets anymore. $180. What? Not for the big acts. Yeah. That tons was one eighty a piece for the floor. And I was like happy about that. You know what I mean? I was like, well, that's a good deal.

So at hundreds of concerts, too, I have seen many examples of both good and poor gig etiquette that I'm excited to share with you now. Let's get right into it, starting with what to wear. Alright, if you're a man who normally dresses up, going to a concert might mean dressing down a little. I probably wouldn't go to a concert dress like this, but that doesn't mean he's wearing a suit currently. Pocket square and all. Looking any less stylish. The first thing to consider when putting together your outfit is the genre

of the artist. If it's a jazz show, you might feel comfortable and confident in that suit. If it's a country concert, maybe you pull out those cowboy boots that you've been meaning to wear. Although it can be fun to m- If it's a country concert, maybe pull out some cowboy boots, put on a pair of bib overalls and put a piece of hay in your mouth and show up. The cosplay that goes into like going to stage coach is incredible. Like a guy that you didn't even know you never seen where like not just like joggers and like a gym shark shirt will have like boots and Wranglers out of nowhere, cowboy hat out of nowhere.

That's the most cosplay genre I think out there. Yeah. Well, have you ever been in Nashville? No. I know. I'm sure Rob's been in Nashville. Have you ever been in Nashville, Rob? Nope.

That is the most everywhere you go. There are people dressed in cowboy boots. Guys from Pennsylvania wearing cowboy, but like, cause it's like a destination for country music people. So they come from all over the country and they're all wearing cowboy boots and like those roughed up cowboy hats that are in style with guy. Basically they're dressed like they shop at the buckle in the mall all the time. So let's check out some more posts here. I got it. I got it. I got some more. Here's some more bathroom posts. This guy said, and again, this guy goes, I have friends that ingest quite a large amount of substances

and still go whole fast without pooping. I've always found it impressive. This guy has a joke goes, emode him is a hell of a drug. And then of course, this guy's got to pop in. That's potentially bad for a person. This guy, you know, one's asking you to keep it real, dude. You don't got to keep it real all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, if they keep eating or remain constipated from a modium, they're just packing more and more shit into their intestines. It can cause fecal impaction, a medical issue, and even cause fissures in the colon or bowel perforation also medically significant. So thanks for that information, sir. We all needed to hear that.

I mean, all, all true. I'll give you that. But at the same time, I think these are, I think these are mostly people who, if it's happening on accident or like they're actually shitting but they just don't want to like admit that they shitting the gross thing Like I don't this is something worth giving real feedback to I think we all know that if you don't shit for four days Maybe go to the doctor. Oh brother. I don't shit for four days sometime Really? What? Sometimes I haven't shit for a few days It's been a while like cuz I'm getting concerned about it now. Man, you're supposed to shit every day I think. Yeah, yeah, you're supposed to shit every day. Yeah. Well, I can hold it, okay? Do you

get enough fiber? Let's talk about this for a... Do you get fiber? Yeah, well, not... So currently I think the reason it's going on is because I usually eat fiber gummies every day and drink a lot of water, but I have dental shit going on. Something, you know, something about a gummy seems antithetical to fiber in my mind, but I mean, you know, seems like it works, but I'm not taking, I can't eat like gummy stuff because I have, could you some chia seeds and stuff. I have everything. Yeah, I have them. Why do you think your smoothies are so expensive? Hey, okay. I make my own smoothies now. The worst would be at the gathering of the jugalos 2018. I think Sunday morning some jackass threw some fireworks down the vent tube. This, I want to say, I can verify that

they bring a lot of fireworks to that thing. I've been to the gathering of the jugalos and they shoot. I've said this before. I remember watching kid and play up there dancing and trying to avoid bottle rockets. And I was just like, I feel sorry for these guys. They made house party. Did everyone get excited for the move they do where they have their feet linked and hop around a circle? Because that's two of them kind of stationary. Like they can't really dodge in that, that, that situation. I mean, they did all the moves. I'll say that they did all the kid and play moves, but they were being pelted with fireworks the whole time.

But, and don't think it's like some kind of thing. They were doing that to everybody that per yeah. CP was up there, their, their heroes. And they were shooting fireworks at them. Like they just shoot fireworks at everybody. If you're going to perform there, guess what? They're going to shoot some fireworks at you. I'd still do it. I'd still do like a live guys at the gathering of the juggalos. I'm sure Chris would like being in the being at the gathering. That would be a great place from this guy goes. This guy's a piece of shit asshole and I hate him. Hey, pro tip from an old head for you guys, sneak a padlock locker

combination lock into the festival, lock up a porta potty. Most have the spot on the doors to use a lock. Now you have your own private porta potty. Like this is psycho. Yeah. Yeah. This is not happening. You can't do it.

Well, yeah, I'm hoping here's a question on our festivals. Guys going to Shambhala. We can look up Shambhala real quick. It's probably a band of jam band. Sounds jam bandy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a Canadian festival Shambhala. I won't be going there.

Andy. Oh, these are all bands you've never heard of in your entire life. Like it looks like it could be one of those fake AI. Andy see a past she big gigantic Bob Moses bow channel trace. So no, we're not going to know any of these bands. So anyway, because I was ready to be like, huh, Brian, I know all the bands and then you listed those and I didn't know any of them. Well, you two are going to get a test a little later on. We have a game when Chris is away. We can play a game. This guy goes, but this person says Molly ketamine acid together. Hey y'all, I'm headed to Shambhala

Monday through Friday this year. It's essentially a hippie 4d3 and no booze vendor. I've been debating what days to do what drugs I've experimented with shrooms ketamine acid and Molly all separately. I was looking for some insight on the following drug combos. One Molly and ketamine to shrooms and ketamine three once and I loved it. Funnest hour of my life. So they're asking the real questions. Should I mix a bunch of drugs together? I wish I had that like attitude because like I love drugs and everything,

but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don? I wish I had that like attitude because like I love drugs and everything, but I would not want to do like acid and ketamine around that many people. No and also if I pay that much money to see music, I kind of want to remember some of that music. Right. Acid is the scary one. I don't know how they do it.

I don't know how the fish people and the jam band people are going in there dropping acid. I just it probably helps knowing everyone else is on acid that might work. Yeah, because that is part of being in public on acid is you being worried that everybody knows you're on acid. Yeah, and they do they know. Oh, yeah, it's what they all know.

They can see in your eyes, but like, yeah, yeah. The LS, I mean all the other drugs they said here, I would probably be fine with maybe not shroom, but Molly and ketamine are sort of perfect for the occasion in that they're short. There's short law. There's short little sections of drug. So one thing I would say about this person and a lot of people have let them know. They said, do not take Molly five days in a row. That's bad. That is actually not going to work. Yeah.

Yeah. You can't be doing that. Just FYI, you'll be feeling pretty rough doing Molly five days in a row. Acid shrooms, ketamine, and even coke. Five to six consecutive days is definitely not for the week. Ha ha. But the five days of Molly is going to be the ringer. So, uh, guy from five days of isn't one month. I remember I took Molly once and I wanted to kill myself the next day. What is five days of Molly? I doubt what that's what they're saying is like, Hey man, the next day you're very depressed. There's also the acid thing too. And this might be a stupid thing that people just believe

you have to take more the next day in order to really trip. So like you're also going to have to up your drugs every day. The drugs are going to have to be up. Now. I don't know if either one of you have ever seen this, but I'm going to screen share something. I'm going to make it the picture for the episode, but I want to show this. This is a graph and I know it's hard to read. It is a, it is a graph of all the drugs. All right. And then like can't, and then there's an answer of if you can mix them. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's say

Viagra. They say, do not take that with shrooms. Don't take Viagra with shrooms. I brother. Hey, I'm just relaying the information. Viagra with GHB? No. Don't take that. Real quick, I've literally taken Viagra with shrooms. I don't know what would be the thing. I don't understand. It's just a bad experience because then we also have a skeleton. I disagree. I had a fantastic experience. We have a skeleton here, which means it could cause your death and shouldn't do it as Viagra and Coke. So don't get killed doing Viagra and Coke together.

But yeah, they got caffeine. You can pretty much use caffeine with everything that they don't want you mixing Coke and poppers. So I don't know if that's a big one. So yeah, it's just a crazy. It's a really crazy chart that shows what you can do when it is a big chart. It's got a lot of drugs on it. So I'm going to make it the picture for the episode. If you need to, if you ever need to access this, it will be the picture of the episode. It's just a, unfortunately, it's a picture of the, uh, of a laminated paper. So it's hard to, hard to tell. Uh, so let's, uh, let's check in with some posts.

Well, I wait first, let's check in with our gentlemen. gentleman uh i'm sure he's got some information we need we gotta know what to wear match your style of dressing to the style of music don't feel like you have to dress like a performer if you're not a big heavy metal fan but your friend bought you tickets to see iron maiden turning up in full spikes and leather would seem very inauthentic. Generally concert attire will be more casual and if in doubt this is a good go-to outfit that will work for pretty much any genre. Dark jeans, a casual button-down shirt and boots. This is the worst outfit for a concert that you've ever seen in your life. Number one, long sleeve shirt.

Number two, jeans, both terrible things to wear to a concert and a festival all day. Why are jeans bad to wear to a concert? Come on. I wore jeans to the movies. I don't wear jeans, but I'm curious. I wore jeans to a movie recently and my wear jeans, but I'm curious. I wore jeans to a movie recently and my balls were sweating so bad. Oh yeah. I don't wear jeans. I forgot that. I, yeah, I forgot that happens. Scratching them too. Scratch it. I, when you wear like sweats all

the time, cause that's what I wear. I wear, uh, the same joggers. I have like 10 pairs of the same joggers and in the summer I have like 10 pairs of the same joggers. And in the summer I have like 10 pairs of the same shorts. Although today I'm wearing my stylish short. You can see them. Oh, very stylish. Yeah. Very, very stylish. Pleasures brand is what they are. So, oh, very, very stylish. Hey, you know, I'm a stylish guy. Um, but you're always able to scratch your nuts in those situations. And as a guy with a, it's known that I have a very hot crotch. Um, you know, I ripped my, I ripped the crotch out of my underwear on an airplane cause my balls was sweating too much. So I wore jeans to like look good

and boots and then like a nice shirt and I and I'm out with my family and all I'm thinking is I got it. I got to take I almost bought a pair of sweatpants today. Why you're out here pair of underwear. Yeah, yeah, it was nasty. I wouldn't know where jeans to a festival. Unless I was one of those guys that always wears jeans and they look kind of cool you know what I mean like you know the guys I'm talking about the guy that's wearing these tight

black pants and Chelsea boots and a button-down black shirt also has like a lot of rings on yes let's uh maybe he's got some other down could also be a camp collar shirt you can pick whatever color you want. For rock shows, black or navy makes sense. At a festival, you might want to choose brighter colours or bold patterns. Also for a festival, you could probably switch out the jeans for a pair of shorts and you could switch out the boots for loafers. Okay don't... Chill chill chill.

Calm down sir. We're not wearing loafers to the festival. Okay. It's this these loafers. These are sockless loafers. If you're not wearing, you got to wear socks to a festival. Like you got to wear socks and if you're going to be there, maybe bring an extra pair of socks. Like you don't don't know this is bad. Yeah., let's look at a psycho here real quick. Uh, so he goes, I think people put too much value on nice views and visuals. Maybe an unpopular opinion. I see so many posts here and elsewhere about the gorge or other focus on or other focus on visuals. I'll probably get downvoted, but whatever.

Just got to ran a bit now on guys we love when somebody says they're probably going to get down voted, but whatever. Just got to ran a bit now on guys. We love when somebody says they're probably going to get down voted. Yeah. We also love it when somebody says they're going to rant. Buckle up, buckle up, buttercup. There I get a little that that is okay. So he goes, I went to be on wonderland at the gorge with my wife and 10 friends. So many friends did nothing but chill on the hill. Wife and I live in a van. So yeah, the views are nice, but we have better views a few dozen times a year. And I'm not out of music festival for views. I'm there for good sound, good music, good crowds and good dancing. Why wife and I went off on our

own side quest rave on our own course and enjoyed the hell out of it. We did an obligatory obligatory sunset in on the Hill and yeah, cool. Good music for sunset. Nice. But the next day I'm not going to watch a sunset over going and dancing at the base stage, because for me, it's not about getting on a dance floor kind of same with the light shows.

Like, yeah, it's cool if there's an awesome light show, but I'd much rather be deep in a crowd with zero visuals and amazing music than mid music and some visual experience. So I'm gonna explain to you what this guy's up to. He's saying, I don't care. I don't know why you care to see what's going on on stage. This is, it's funny,

cause it's like you're complaining about something that's... The music's good already, right? It's not like they're compromising the sound of the music for these visuals. The visuals are just there and it's also there's a lot of people there who are on... You're talking about EDM festival here. There are people who are very excited by the visuals because they're on drugs and it's like, you know, it's going to a party and they have a charcuterie board, but you don't like anything on the security board. Don't complain that it's there at all. Like it's, you know, maybe they don't have the quality salami you like, but they had some salami.

You know, you don't get mad about it. It's there anyways. Like why are you, why are you upset about this? I think a big issue I have is like him saying like, who gives a shit about the views? I live in a van and I go look at views all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh cool. That affects me in what way? Like I like a view. You know what I mean? And this guy's just like, and he chooses to live in a van and, and that is for me a romantic way to be. I would love to do that. You know what I mean? But you know, me and my wife require toilets. Yeah. You just don't, you don't do the sprinter van trip. Cause I was like looking into renting one to drive across the country. And I think I could afford the RV and I think I could afford the RV. And I think I could afford the gas

and food. I don't think that's a big problem. I think the big problem is the toilet issue. You just got to get a good toilet map, you know, there should be a toilet map, especially with all the people that are doing this. Since COVID a lot of people bought Sprinter vans. Yeah. Yeah. So this guy goes, most people don't live in a van and don't get the experience of setting like the gorge often you could dance in a crowd at any show. You can only experience the gorgeous view at the gorge. I agree with you on light shows. So OP responds. It was really good point. Anyone could go camping, but most people don't very often. And to be fair, it's cool to have

the epic music with the views. You don't get that one camping even with a good Bluetooth speaker. I just tend to like the dance floor vibes and sound more. One reason being that's what I'm paying for. I can, I can at a rave and I often prefer to a rave, but a festival with days of music is another level. But like I said, we went to the gorge, enjoyed the scenery for a bit, but then just go dance. Just go dance, right? Why go to an EDM fest to sit on a hill? Okay. So he's talking about people who are sitting on the hill looking at the views instead of dancing. And I also think he's thinking it's like, I'm sure everybody who was on the hill was also dancing at some point, but he's convinced that everyone he sees there on the hill when he's there never leaves. And like, he was like, this

guys, we're not here to, you can sit anywhere. There's parks around the world, bro. Like feel the bait right now. Okay. I kind of, I kind of, I kind of want to, I kind of get what he's saying now. Kind of with that. Yeah. Go dance. There's yeah. But to say there's like, Hey man, there's views all over the world when like 95% of the people that are working office job, yeah. And this is their time off from work. You know what I mean? Like I don't, I don't know that like his experience can be poured it over to most people, especially now they're making people go back to the office anyway. You know, this guy go and then he goes, but you can go camp and sit on a hill for free for the price of gas and get there any weekend

is the whole point of an EDM festival to dance in the crowd and feel the bass reverberating up through your legs and penetrating your limbs and making them move. That was gross. Uh, he goes, yes, but it's a, usually the guy responds and goes, yes, but it's, but it's what usually a two, three day festival. Can us old folks or people with back issues? This guy's an asshole. I want to say this. I think the original poster guy is an asshole. I hate it when somebody's like, uh, okay. Well my back hurts. So I have to sit down like, no, I can't argue back. You know what I mean? Uh, he goes, uh, isn't the whole point of an idiot. Oh, he goes, can us old folks with, or people with back issues or people who want to break, be able to sit and enjoy the view to Advil only does so much after 12 hours of dancing. So that guy dances for

12 hours. Yeah. I, uh, and the guy goes, yeah, you can not dissing a bit of a sick time. I'm 39 and definitely need some recharge time, but I need a good six plus hours of dance time each night. Nice. Get out there. These guys like posting about all this and like spin, like it seems all so antithetical to like the idea of a music festival where it's like this thing you wait for all year and then you go for a weekend and then it's over. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. They're just still thinking about it. Yes. And talking about it. That's what makes a festival guy. I mean, most people are like, Oh, a festival guy, right? He would be a guy that goes to a million festivals a year. And there are those guys, those guys exist. Everybody knows those guys exist. They're mostly jam band guys. I don't think a lot of people go to like any other genre music.

So anyway, uh, yeah, they go to a subreddit about the show 365 days a year. I'm looking at Sonic temple right now and there, this person just goes, fuck all the smokers, get your nasty cigarettes out of my face. And the guy goes, this exactly took my sister to her first Sonic temple. And for her favorite band, several people sat in front of us in the stadium and smoked nonstop the whole set, not bothering to blow it up or anything. Just letting it all hit the breeze right back into our faces. My sister's asthmatic and we're totally expecting to endure smoke. It's literally inevitable, but they had absolutely zero consideration for those around them. It wasn't just one cigarette either. It was one cigarette and like five or six blunts. No joke. Just be considerate of the people around you. That's

all any of us ask. Um, I'm going, I'm going to, I don't smoke anymore. I haven't smoked for like two or three years again. I mean, you know, you never know if I'm going, I'm going to, I don't smoke anymore. I haven't smoked for like two or three years again. I mean, you know, you never know if I'm going to come back, but right now I don't. I did notice how annoying it, it being an ex smoker is sort of a situation where you're like, I've done this. And I hate the smell of cigarettes. and I hate when it's blown in my face but I felt like I wasn't allowed to really complain about that at a concert number one

which we'll see a lot of people respond with that but also just as in like I've blown smoke in people's faces for several years without really realizing it. This is funny too, because like, like the genre, I think it's kind of important. This is for Sonic temple. So this is like a metal fest and I don't know. I kind of expect like cigarettes at like, like if someone's wearing like a leather vest, I expect them to smoke cigarettes. I don't know. I just, you, you know, this is going to happen there. Guy in a battle vest is probably going to be smoking cigarettes, probably ripping cigarettes. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a lot there. They're actually, I was almost like I've been to heavy metal concerts, but I don't go to festivals

anymore. I don't go to outdoor stuff anymore. Very often. I'm you, I like an indoor concert. I don't like an outdoor concert. Yeah. So I've never, that issue hasn't existed in so long when you're indoor seeing a show, nobody can smoke. It doesn't smell like cigarettes. It's just, so I do understand this thing where it's like, I'm going to this concert. Everybody's smoking fucking cigarettes. You know what I mean? So this guy goes, I've seen so much. This guy's funny. This old head. I like this guy. I've seen so much crazy shit in the first 10 years of rock on the range. People do an acid and wigging out people passing blunts everywhere. Titties everywhere. People puking on each other. Some of the most violent

mosh pits I've ever been in. It's like a UFC fight when slip, not her mastodon comes on. I've seen people bloodied up from head to toe, people getting knocked the fuck out, crew staff grabbing and throwing people over barricades like a sack of potatoes. I saw a group of about five people hauling a 500 pound asshole and launching them into the crowd of people during Motley crew. There are no rules at a concert. He did capitalize during Motley crew. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You guys, there are no rules at a concert, much as a festival with 50 fucking bands, but yeah, there's cigarettes too. So valid. Yeah. Maybe the least of your problems. Yeah. Yeah. Let's check in with

this guy. But only if you plan on standing at the back and you're not going to be right at the front where the crowd might trample on your feet. Personally, I don't really like festivals anyway, so if I go to one you can just find me sitting at the bar and loafers are just fine for that. But for indoor shows, boots are essential because it's very likely your feet will get stepped on as people are dancing and the crowd swells. Wearing white sneakers would be the biggest mistake because they will get covered in spilled drinks and dirty footprints in just one night. Sir, people who wear white shoes wear them because they're cool and they know that's a possibility. I mean, I'm going to agree with him though. This is that is a bad move like If you go especially go into like a hardcore show something like that

You're definitely gonna wear some beaters something kind of fly, but you don't mind being stepped on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah This guy goes funny to go to an outdoor festival and there's people smoking Here we go guys We're about to get a good heavy metal guy retort here Funny go to an outdoor festival and there's people smoking sounds like this isn't the scene for you. Maybe Lilith fair will come back I feel like women smoke

Yeah, yeah, smoke cigarettes, I don't know. I last time I checked, uh, you know, fams are down for cigarettes. Yeah. Although all my friends were stoners there, maybe go visit the zoo. They probably have restrictions. I'm sure you're angry about the copious amounts of alcohol too. I better not tell you. You might really freak out. Some people are on hallucinogens. You better leave now. Sounds dangerous for you. So this is a, Chris would love this. It's a heavy metal guy talking about how dangerous he is. Love that shit. Uh, and then, uh, uh, 1 million percent get out of the crowd. Uh, if you, if you need to smoke that shit, also the weed vape smells so goddamn

bad. Jesus fucking Christ. That's not fair. That's not true. I don't think I know. Smell good. We've smelled nice. He goes, I make the loudest and nastiest sounding retching noises and yell like who the fuck is smoking that shit? And he goes at it. Love the down votes for simply suggesting that people should be considerate of others when dispensing their literal fucking cancer into the air. So this guy goes, you're the type of loser I'd blow my smoke at the more you complain, the more smoke you get. If you don't want smokers, go to a concert at the airport.

Go to a car to the airport is so good. Yeah, I want to go. And this guy that this guy that's our grand has names, P.M. your saggy tits. And he says, you're an inconsiderate cunt. Yeah. And the guy goes, would rather be a cunt than a little bitch crying about vape smoke all day grow a set of balls. So there you go. And then finally Reddit, small Reddit mods are fascist says,

if you smoked too, it wouldn't bother you that much. Just saying maybe that's your answer. I liked that guy. I liked that. It was true. I liked that attitude. We're going. It's true. I like that attitude. We're going to go ahead and read a couple of reviews of a couple of shows. This one's for Coachella. This is off of ticket master. And this guy says three stars one

day is enough. Traffic galore due to roads closed, uber expect to our bumper to bumper when it should only take a half having left an hour in advance expect to park far expect to walk walking get you there faster and once you reach the vicinity expect to walk more the entry path is ridiculous. Golden boys make very good money. They need to fix the end. Ridiculous. Expect sore feet and possible blisters. Great artists, but two to three playing at the same time. You might have to choose who to watch and who one may only sing just one song and no cash

accepted at the food vendors estimate $12 to $20 food or drink item. Good luck. One day is enough. So this guy just explained exactly what it is to be at a music festival. Yeah. Mad about it. Especially Coachella. Like, yeah, I don't know if you that you signed up for that. You knew that's what it was. Yeah. It's not thinking it's not in a place that's built for that many people, you know, no, the air, the, the, that, the Coachella Valley, the Indio, California, I've been a bunch of times to my wife likes it there. It's not like a, a population center. Yeah. It's like polo fields, but like it, it in, I don't know. I mean, I've, I, I can get,

I get offered free tickets every way, every couple of years, and I won't go for free because all that, all that is miserable just to see like a band that you, that you like a lot from really far away sound. Yeah. Yeah. This is louder than life. This is a review on Yelp by a guy named Scott and he gave it five stars. And he says this review is addressed to Danny Wimmer, who

puts on this festival as well as bourbon and beyond. I'm well aware he's not going to read this, but for some reason, I want to talk to him. So we got ourselves a literary Yelp reviewer, which we love over here. Dear Danny, I have a real love hate relationship with you. My problem with you is that you so thoroughly dominate the Louisville market with your festivals that your festivals are pretty much the only chance to see a lot of really terrific acts. Because of exclusivity deals a band stop on one of your festival is usually the only shot to see someone. So

either I pay to go to your festival or I'm out of luck. This sucks as a consumer, particularly since a festival slot is usually shorter and often involves far less production, et cetera. Not to mention the fact that your festivals are not at all cheap. Okay. So that sounds like a bad review so far. Now we get to the good, but here's the thing. While your festivals cost a lot of money, they're incredibly incredibly. It's I promised Chris I would I would catch any of you said incredibly.

I did say incredibly. Okay. Okay. Yes. Christian had told you that I I may I said I would he didn't he didn't tell me to that mother fucker. I will get it. I still I can text his ass I just text him and say

Hopefully fleet foxes. I keep Saying because his favorite bands fleet foxes. It's really the only band he listens to really. Oh, oh, yeah Yes food and drinks are expensive, but you also allow people to bring in water bottles and provide more than adequate water stations. There are more than adequate restroom and thank goodness for that. And the lineups are quite frankly incredible. Louder than life in particular had so many great acts that I wasn't able to physically see them all at once because the human can't be in two places at once. Now this is, this last paragraph is the reason I cut this because he seems, it's just annoying.

Like, so Danny, you're my best friend and my worst enemy at the same time. I would love to pick your brain about how you do what you do. If you ever want to have lunch with a peasant when you're in Louisville, by all means call me. Oh, what a guy. What a disgusting, like he, first of all, he wants to hang out with the promoter of a festival and they're evil. So like the amount of money they, they get

out of you. This guy goes, well, organized festival. We sprang for the VIP tickets and I found them to be worth it due to the bathroom trailers with running water to wash your hands reverse osmosis water bottle fillers Big VIP tent and some seating outdoors really solid lineup good sound and a crowd behave themselves. I don't like that. I don't boring Don't like it when a guy says somebody behaved Anybody somebody behaved anybody. No, nobody should ever say that about adults. He goes if it weren't for just being outdoors for 11 or so hours

a day, I would definitely come back. I'll leave this festival to younger me. So that is that that is our reviews and now we're going to do the game. Chris hates it when I do a game. I'm going to do a game. This is the Lollapalooza. Let me go pee real fast. I'll be yeah, I got it. I have to as well. I got to have'm going to do a game. This is the Lollapalooza. Let me go pee real fast.

I'll be. Yeah, I got it. I have to as well. I got to have my head clear for this game. Mike, mark it down. OK. I went and looked at this year's Lollapalooza lineup and I looked at the low level bands on it. I think they call them like the fifth or like the third or fourth line. The small print, small print, the small print bands.

And I made up a few and I made up. And then I also have, uh, some real ones here. They're this is we're going to, you guys are going to try to figure out which one's real and which ones I made up. All right. And, uh, first one, I'm gonna read, I'm gonna go with Rob first. All right.

Jev, J-E-V. J-E-V? I'm gonna go real. And Tony, Jev, J-E-V EV I'm also gonna go real did you know that one time that is true it is real no but it's one of those it's kind of like a stupid name I think that'd be a tough one to make up true well don't say that here we go the The next one. Craig's Choice. I made that one up. It sounds like a ska band that doesn't, but the type of ska that doesn't exist anymore. Okay, so we're gonna start with Rob on

this next one. Old Mervs. Old Mervs? Yes, old Mervs. Plural? Yep. M E R V S. That is fake. And Tony old Mervs. That one's real. It's probably a garage rock band and they think the name Merv is funny. I cannot believe this that you Tony got that one right. Old Mervs is a real band, which is an insane name. How about, how about we're going to go with, uh,

we'll start with Tony on this time, Eddie and the getaway, Eddie and the getaway. I'm going to say also real and Rob, Eddie and the getaway fake. That one's real too. Tony, you haven't gotten one wrong yet. They're probably just all the rifle band. I don't, I don't actually know any.

So the next one is Scrag S K-K-R-A-G. That one's real. I listened to them. You listen to Scrag. No, you've just confirmed to me it's real. Tony Scrag. Uh, it sounds like that. I'm going to go. I got you both, motherfucker. That's a fake name. Scrag. It's close. Somebody's going to make you

make a word for a band. And that's why I thought was happening with Jeff. So good job. It's funny. Scrag is a funny name because it's one of the I did one of these one time, I think for prog rock bands, right. And I had Steve Slykowski from pup on he was like, very knowledgeable about that kind of stuff. And I got him a few times with fake ones. But one of the ones that was fake that I made up was real. It ended up being real. Like somebody sent me a link to the band of the fake

name that I made up. And I was like, that's weird. Scrag Yeah, if you're in a band and you want to be Scrag, go for it. I think, I think it would be great for you. Uh, this one is the next one. It's a stamps on an envelope on a plane. Rob stamps on an envelope on a plane. I that. Okay. Real stamps on an envelope on a plane Tony real that sounds real though doesn't it so bad it sounds real it did like the worst band at Coachella can I tell you my process for this please please. Red jumpsuit apparatus.

Yeah, that's what I was. I was thinking something like that. Yeah, that's what my process was like. I need a band that is like red jumpsuit apparatus. I've never heard that band in my life. I don't even know what the music is. Or clap your hands, say, yeah. Is it?

Yeah, you can make, yeah. Yeah, they're good. We got the next one. Mary droppings and I want to say DRO PP INZ Tony. Real Rob. Mary droppings ending with a Z. Fake. Rob, Mary droppings ending with a Z fake. Mary droppings is real.

Oh my God. I know they don't sound none of them sound real. That's why I wanted to do the game because they all sounded real until that one. The small like print bands are always like, I don't know who any of these guys are. And I'm like always proud of myself. If I know one of them, you know what I mean? Like when you get to like the smallest letters and you're like, like at Sonic temple, silly goose was like at the very bottom and I love silly goose. And I was like, yeah, I'm pretty

cool. I'm, I'm into the band at the way bottom. That's right. That's right. Early on the symposium. Oh, sorry. I was gonna say it's kind of fun to look at older ones and see like bigger bands who are like kind of small at the bottom at the time. Yeah. Lollapalooza.

Lollapalooza I think is like a strange festival because the lineups are maybe the most unpredictable because at at at Coachella, you know, you're going to get like the big pop acts, right? You're going to get like a lady Gaga. You're going to get like a, a Clara like all you're going to get the big, huge pop at you're not going to, I don't, I mean, I guess they do it sometimes at Lollapalooza, but like this year corn is headlining one of the nights and like, it's really

strange. I don't, I like the vibe of Lollapalooza and I've been in town while it's going on. Uh, I will say this about I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm is always super hot. I know isn't that bad this year, but it's always it's like it's always bad weather. It was the Sonic Temple weather was great, like all three days, except the first day it got cold at night.

So it was like like like 45 degrees and nobody dressed for that. And corn was playing and I ain't leaving early during corn. I'm a corn guy So the next the next one we have here is the symposium tony the symposium uh fake Um, okay rob symposium Real that is real

That is a real band I kind of thought like I need to get some generic sounding names. And finally, for the last one, I'm gonna it's Argento Starling. Argento Starling, Tony, is Argento Starling real? Yes, real. Rob, is Argento star going real? Yes, real. Rob is our gentle starling real? I'm pretty sure I saw that on a festival flyer once. So I'm going to say real.

It's fake. Oh my God. So you won by a lot, but I will say, uh, uh, it was impressive that both of you got them. These, it was three to, oh wait, there's two more. I'm trying to get them out of order. Right. So still, did I say, yeah, I think this is the last one. Still woozy, still woozy. Tony, uh, I'm gonna say real and Rob still woozy. Real. All right. You guys got that right.

Those are real and it was six to four this time. Tony wins. But Rob, you were Rob. You never had a chance because Tony knows every band that's ever existed. I didn't know any of those bands. But you go to shows and you, I toured with Tony once with Tony and Alexander, we toured and we would be talking about bands in the car.

And I'm such a dork, I'm like talking about the bands I like and then they'll start talking about the bands I listen to and they sound like the coolest guys in the world. They're just like naming like all these bands that I've never heard of. And I was like, damn, that was badass. It's the opposite. It's opposite. We're just total nerds. And then Alex, Alex makes me feel the way you felt that day all the time. Yeah, I felt like that the whole stuff and I know. Yeah, because on the whole trip it was like it was like Alex would name one and you'd

be like, oh yeah, I did see them. Let's get one final one off our slash Bonnaroo. That's one I have friends that have gone to. Oh yeah, that's in Tennessee, right? I always wanted to go when I was younger. Yeah, I looked at it. What's what's fucked up is now that John Cullen has gotten me media passes for one show.

I'm like, we should get media. Can you get me media passes for Bonnaroo? Like, like, just I'm like, how do I get media passes for everything? And by the way, if you think it's some kind of fancy media pass thing, I'm going to tell you right now, uh, it's not, they gave me the worst tickets you could possibly have. And uh, it sucked the, the, the, the, the treatment of the media is horrible these days. And I'm sick and tired of what's going on with journalists out there the way they treat us.

Listen, there's no shame in that. If you have a way to get into a show for free, if you can get on a list or whatever, always, always do it. Always do it. It's having somebody that knows how to write the email. You know what I mean? Like, because there's an email that you send and there's a way that you can finesse the numbers and stuff like that because they can't look at the numbers anyway. So I think like, it's pretty easy to get them if you have like a podcast. This guy, I submerged that type support the band. This guy from our boner who says if they book red hot chili peppers again, I'm out third time in 15 years.

Haven't released anything relevant in 10 plus years. They're not good live and they have toured the country two summers in a row. Sounds just like a headliner. Rue would book. So this guy's out and I'm going to tell you some of the comments on this thread are so fucking crazy. First guy goes. I'm not super thrilled either, but this will be a good time to go back to camp and take a nap. Bonnaroo is never not

a great time. So take a nap during the headliner. Yeah. Yeah. R H C P puts on a fucking show. I've seen them five plus times and it never gets old. They're forever evolving. And their new album is amazing. They embody the Bonnaroo spirit, man, especially now that they have John for Shanti back, they will put on an even better show than they did back in 2017. Flea is 61 years old and still handstands across the stage. Like it's nothing. They always bring the energy and I'd love to have them back so uh flea at 61 and you can do a handstand that's cool honestly why even play the bass if you can't do a handstand like I hate it when my money I see a bassist and then I do a handstands they do naked they do the naked thing I

wonder if they saw thing sock thing, that's actually funny thing. I think you can either date 19 year olds or continue to do the sock thing. I don't think you get to do both. So I think he chose 19 year olds. Well now this guy potty potty 69 says Google Anthony Kiedis 14 year old for more info on this. says Google Anthony Kiedis 14 year old for more info on this. Yeah, yeah. This guy trespassing look response and says crazy how all these musicians who have 14 year old quote groupies back in the 80s get booked wherever they want. But if any musician today sends a vaguely creepy text to a 17 year old. They get immediately on person. It's in her. Yeah, it sucks. It's not the way it was in the seventies. I didn't say it's fucking bullshit.

You can't, you can't even, you can't even have sex with teens anymore. Yeah. Oh, one 17 year old and I'm canceled all of a sudden. What the hell? I had one nude from a kid and everyone's all mad at me. He goes, uh, yeah, there's a few, there were a bunch of other ones where they were just defending them. I find it very strange. Like in my mind, the impulse to defend something like that because you want to hear Californication lie. You know, unfortunately, a lot of it is a lot of these guys think that like, well, I want to be with a 19 year old too. That's probably true. Also what, what if one day a 19 year old finds

me appealing? I got to get ahead of this. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So that is music festival guys. We had a game we read about poop and you know, we read some ticket master reviews. Tony is from minion death cult and it's a good show and you should always listen to it. And get on their Patreon man. And Rob Wiseman, do you want to plug anything? He's on Huckwatch. Oh, yeah. Um, let's see. Oh, I have a I have a I have a Twitch stream. Oh, where where I where I make beats, but it's all all done as like a like a a fantasy adventure RPG or the goal of every, every stream is to make a beat.

And I commissioned all this artwork and yeah, it's called beat quest. Check it out. Thank you for saying that. What's the DB slash Rob Wissman. That's one or I might change it. I don't know when this will come out, but it might be slash week be quest by the time Okay, I might may or may not be at slash be quest by that time We'll see you all next week with

Fuck I don't know something. It'll be great Goodbye, bye. Thanks for having me