Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 126 - Bass Guys with Pat Finnerty

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

This one was super exciting for me. We had Pat Finnerty on to talk about bass guy and a ton of other music related stuff. Why are bass guys so disrespected? What makes me light up? We covered Fieldy, Motley Crue, and of course the ladies that the bass player gets, then we read some ticketmaster reviews for Primus!  Go watch all of Pats videos!! There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashow and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys a podcast about guys. I'm Brian. That, do, do, do, do, do. That's a bass noise. We're talking about bass guys. And Chris is here. Hi, Chris. So you really did a lot of studying. I can tell you, so that's a bass noise. Dude, I did. Some people call it a bass line,

but you called it a bass noise? We'll talk about that in a minute, but I'm excited to have our guest, somebody who inspired me to do this episode, Pat Finnerty, hey Pat. How's it going? Thanks for having me. I heard you say bass players.

It's weird to wanna play bass. I think. And I was thinking about it when you brought that up, and I was like, you know, I had like six friends that wanted to be in a band, and all six of us wanted to be bass players. Wow. So everybody had a bass and everybody played bass.

So you didn't have any, like there was no feeling like you wanted to play the guitar? No. All I just wanted to play the bass. Was there a bassist that you really looked up to? Well, now I'm learning today after doing the research that the bassists we looked up to might not be a great bassist and that's fielding from corn So this is getting better and better You know, I'm really happy I got back to this email You're hanging out with six fucking bass players. Do you know what I had to do to find a kid to play bass?

I had to get him the bass first of all This kid picked me up and he's like he's like I play bass I was like, oh awesome, and then we got to the rehearsal and I go. Okay. What do you know? He goes nothing What do you mean? He's like I've never played I was like come on You were the one that called this practice. I'm like, you know wild thing. He's like no I was like what would do you really know anything? He's like no nothing that was and you had six Yeah, you could have easily had a bass player But you would have had to put out to put up with a lot of other stuff if you're in your own I mean, I can't even imagine who they were

But yeah, the other Sean wasn't a bass player. He was not and he wasn't a musician guy But just Brian had a lot of Unsavory friend he was in a violence gang that we used to I wasn't in a gang You said salt older people who are like I did never assaulted an older person in my not I'll just say Pat. It was not a fair fight. It was not somebody who was like I want to have a fight You know, but we're so am I right now Guy I qualify but like what's happening here? So we We heard less clay pool like some reason

Pork soda made it to us We were all into hip-hop at the time and like genuinely hated all rock music for a period there was like the small period where the only rock bands we listened to were Primus and the doors and then the rest of it was rap and Then like trash Yeah And then and then corn and then I saw a picture of corn and I was like those are the guys I want to be Before you'd heard their music. Yeah, so that's kind of that's really interesting. You rarely hear somebody say hey I really got into this band before I had heard them play their music. It's all picture of them

I was like am I gotta get that CD. And I bought the motherfucker, like, my first paycheck, I bought the Korn album and listened to it for two and a half years. So you saw large pants in a large black t-shirt with some sort of pattern on it. Yes. Which isn't not what you're wearing right now.

That's a very Korn-ish shirt. I must say he wears corn font He wears a lot of stuff that sort of makes it clear that he was really into corn I like the corn font too. I always believe that the corn font looked really cool I know it's a bad name for a band, but when you look at it, I'm like, that's fucking cool But what I saw was the dreadlocks. I wanted wanted dreadlocks really bad but I'm also I'm bald I get I can't grow dreadlocks and I didn't do it when I could and I've always I've always very much regretted that that's why imagine that like hospital scene with like the family coming in you're just Dreads in life is that you didn't have dreadlocks.

Just imagine that like hospital scene with like the family coming in. You're just laying there. You hear the beeps, they're like, Grandpa, do you have any regrets? I wanna live. Like what should I do? If I could wear dreadlocks.

After the first time that I saw corn on the, what's the first corn's album called? Just three months just to try them for three months in the summertime walk around on the beach People may have looked at me and said cool hair, man I mean and you should have seen what he looked like too A lot of the listeners know what brian looked like he was like really skinny and He was just kind of like, him with dreadlocks would have been a ridiculous look for sure. Would have been hot. Girls would love me.

You could still do, like listen, so I'm bald as shit. Chris, you look like a hair guy. I mean, I'm not, I'm like not- He's a hair guy. He keeps saying he's bald. He comes on here and says he's bald all the time. I'm not bald, but I'm thin. My hair is thinning a bit, but I have some hair, yeah. That's a hair guy, if I've ever seen one. Brian, here's what I'm thinking at the end. I'm not like I'm fit my hair is thinning a bit, but I have some hair Yeah, that's a hair guy if I ever seen one Brian. Here's what I'm thinking at the end I don't know. I'm I'm thinking bald long hair. That's how I'm going out. Oh, I thought about that I've been trying to get him to do it. Yes bald locks you could

Let's do some bald locks, man Because he seems locks I told him I just want him to the whole Kogan look for a while like full He walks around his neighborhood a lot So he's like he walks all day long so everyone kind of knows him around there like he does all his research while he's walking Around so imagine if he all of a sudden had whole Kogan here, and they're like yeah, you know the guy who's walking around He's fucking got a whole Kogan here Here's the thing though man you hair guys that, listen, we got to walk the walk. I mean, there's one thing to like really enjoy,

you know, I want to do it, but it takes a lot. I had one friend who'd pulled off the bald long hairs and Ben and he did it. But I mean, you're not just on stage and you're not just walking around. I mean, you're going into like restaurants and stuff like that. Like you're meeting, you know,'re you're going to like restaurants and stuff like that like you're meeting

You know going at your other Groceries and talking Somebody up at school your kid Kids you have to walk by kids. Yeah About our kids. I see you. Yeah, I said to Chris the other we were talking about the other day And there was a period where I knew I was going bald as hell. Like I had hair in the front but it was just like a line and this all was gone and my strategy at that time

was to grow all the hair I could and then wear a hat and then it would look like there's so much hair going on under there. You know what I mean? He was fooling everyone. Patty thought everyone was fooled by this. He wore a hat all the time. Yeah.

Nobody knows that I'm bald. I used to call it the big reveal whenever I was like dating girls and stuff like that. And I took it off for the first time. It was always called the big reveal and like, oh shit, I think I'm going to have to big reveal or not. And then then you know So one time I'll never forget it and I wasn't even interested in this girl I think I've told this story before but I was like she it was after a gig. I was going through a breakup I was like not tonight. She was like all over me. I was like not tonight

I was like and then she's helping me like carry my shit and all that stuff and she's like Let me wear your hat and I was like, well, you know that I'm bald as shit. And she's like, what? And she's like, let me try it on. So I took it off. And then she looked up and went, why? Oh, no. Why?

It was awesome. She was like to the universe. She was talking to the universe because she wanted to sleep with you. And she's talking to the universe. She's like, man. She she's talking the universe But she's like man. She's like why and I was like, I don't know but you know if you still want to help There's an XLR over there. You can wrap up if not, you know, I think your friends are leaving Yeah, well, I went and looked I wanted to do base guys One because they're funny and and I I posted about, but I want to say this that like every episode

there's a search term that cracks the episode for me every time guitar players. It was wife. Yeah, like you search wife in a guitar forum and people are like my wife says I have too many guitars and then everybody's like how many bags does she have and how many hair straighteners does she have that I go into check on her hair? Straightener collection. Yeah, we did have a guy say my wife said how many guitars You know do you need and then one of the reason replies was like ask her how many hair straighteners she needs and it was

Like that seems like a guy who's never even met a woman That's awesome. But for for for bass players, it wasn't that it was the word respect Because yeah, so they they obviously are like they're mocked quite a bit, right? I suppose more than maybe any of the other like they're sort of the butt of the the joke a little bit more than any other Band member, right? Is that safe to say? Yeah, them are drummers There's a lot of drummer jokes But I feel like the bass player joke is like the I feel like they've been empowered in the last couple of like Decades like bass bass writes have definitely risen like they've kind of taken it on as their own

But yes, I would say that they are kind of cooler everyone knows that yeah Yeah, they I feel like the sort of knock on a bass players is kind of like Oh, you couldn't you couldn't make it as a lead guitarist kind of right? You're not good enough to play guitar. That's what it is Brian Sorry, Pat says there's bass rights that have shown up There is another thing that happens only on the bass subreddit because I searched bass on all the other Subreddits right to see what guitar players were saying about it and stuff like that Only on the bass subreddit. They say people don't know this but bass players get all the girls

So that's apparently a thing like that that it is believed That the girls all go for the bass player, which I did. That's not true I think that's completely not true I think it's the would be the lead singer guitarist most likely and I think that's why they're not even talking about it on the forums Because it's just happening and there's like there's no need to protest or whatever. I have a post for you guys This this low spark man says so do bassists really get the girls Okay, so a bunch of years ago. I had dinner guests over for a business dinner the dude from LA Who was legit as far as having experience in the late 60s early 70s music scene as a musician and friend of famous musicians

Season old Samick bass in the corner of the living room He asked if I played I told him I had played in a high school rock band and that I bought the Sammic at a thrift store on a whim to get back into it in my late forties. He jokingly chided me for having quit after school saying, you know the secret about who really gets the girls in the band. It's the bass player. He went on to say that the stereotype of the lead singer, lead guitarist getting all the action was bogus because they're too egotistical while the bass player has the opportunity to focus on the audience while holding down the rhythm and low end So for all you veteran bass players out there, what say you is this true? What did I miss?

So this this guy has a story So he's basically saying like the bass players can get all the pussy cuz they ain't gotta do anything up on stage They don't have to pay attention to playing music at all So they could just scan the audience where the other members are actually focusing on the song. I like the idea of them focusing intent. Everybody looks at the stage, and they look at the bass player,

and they're like, oh my God, he's looking right at me. Yeah, and also the other band members, I think, depending on the song, but Pat, you could probably speak to this more, having played in bands, but a lot of the songs I feel like they've played them a lot of times so a lot of the times they can also even like the lead guitar everyone could be sort of scanning and checking out the audience yeah everyone's scanning I mean like there's no unless you're in fucking

Dream Theater and they're not scanning anything because there's no women at their shows to begin with I mean they have a lower demo than my than my YouTube channel it's I mean it's like make a Rush concert look like the Lilith Fair they they hey let's not we don't need to be slandering any great Canadian bands like Rush. It's amazing how fast the Canadian comes out. It's incredible. Before I even got the shh of Rush out there I saw your eyebrow go up. I'm sorry. I apologize. Sorry, go on. Sorry. But I was just saying that like yeah, I mean there's focus the focus bands have they're all focused and don't get me wrong

But like yeah, I mean you've played songs long enough. It doesn't matter I mean you can you're checking out who's out there I think the whole bass player gets the girl I mean, that's just a nice way of saying that like that's your mom telling you that no your seniors are cool, too Jordans no yours are my mom my mom got me champion sneakers when I was in like seventh grade And like champion hadn't made the, you know, I don't think champion sneakers have ever really happened. Their sneakers never really hit.

Sometimes their apparel for a while I feel like was, but yeah, their sneakers never really popped off. No, and she's like, I think they're really cool. And I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna get fucking dragged. And I did, but she's like, no, they're cool. And I'm like, yeah. And that's the bass player world. I told this on a stream one time,

but there was this guy I hung out with that bought a pair of shoes. They were LA Gear. And he kept telling us, like, oh, I got some Jordans. And we were like, LA Gear doesn't make Jordans. And then he finally comes outside. He's wearing some Jordans and we're like LA gear doesn't make Jordans and then he finally comes outside He's wearing these these Jordans and they say MJ on them But the foot on him is doing the moonwalk and they're Michael Jackson's and we fuck True we fucking killed that guy bad I never saw those shoes again after that day.

His old shoes made a comeback. That's amazing. Yeah, it's great. This guy goes, one of the perks of being a bass player is that you know when she's flirting with you, when she says, I've always liked bass more than guitar, she's either into you or plays bass herself. Yeah, because that couldn't be true, is what they're saying.

Even they're saying she either has to, because no one actually thinks that. Well, here's the thing, though. I always, Brian, you've seen me, I've talked about this multiple times. Yes, the bass player is the guy in a lot of bands that is the worst guitar player. That's kind of how it happens in a lot of bands.

I play bass. I play bass in a band. I like playing bass, bass is awesome. It's, I love, you know, Paul McCartney bass is my favorite kind of bass. James Jamerson, I love that bass. I love bass, bass is awesome. I had a problem with the white stripes for a long time

and still do like, I can't, cause I like bass. I was like, yeah, this one rocks, but you know, it could use some bass. So like because I like bass. I was like, yeah rocks, but you know, it could use some bass So like I love bass I'm not attacking bass I'm just saying that like there is a difference between When you get good at bass There is a big difference between somebody who's just okay at bass and a fucking bass player that can like has the groove has the pocket they've practiced enough that that's what's weird is that they could sit in a room and just listen to bass I mean like

Forever yeah Because there's subtleties to it You know what I mean now so I'm not saying that there isn't a person that isn't attracted to the low of course But you've got to be good for that to happen. Yeah, the bass players we see are just like the stiffs that are just, you know, over there's an interest to cumbersome. You know what I mean? I love that song, by the way. I know it's bad. I know you do. This is exactly what happened when I went on the best show. Tom was like, wait, of course you like that. Yeah, I didn't know you were on the best show. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I went on and talked to about Limp Bizkit and Woodstock 99 with

Oh, that's great. He goes what I look like this guy asked a question. I thought this was interesting He goes what I look like a goober walking around by while practicing bass I got one of those Fender micros that you plug into a guitar slash bass and use headphones to practice with and realize I can practice while getting daily cardio in on a nature trail or something. Would be using my cheapest bass in case someone tries to run my pockets or kill me.

That's just reddit. So where does he live? That's just reddit. Everybody thinks they're about to get robbed on reddit. He's talking about being in the forest and doing it. People aren't're about to get robbed on Reddit. But I- I'm in the forest and doing it. People aren't robbing in the forest that much. So, yeah. These people, I just, like,

whenever I'm on a forum like that, or Reddit, or just like that, any acoustic guitar forum or Telecaster forum, I'm just trying to picture these basements, these rooms. I'm trying to picture these men. You know what I mean? Like, it's, where's this guy writing this? You know what I mean? Like it's, where's this guy writing this? You know what I mean?

Like is there a family member around? Is it, you have to have a drink for it? Like when, when do they like, do they have a time? Like, Ooh, I'm going to sit down. I'm going to fire up Reddit and see what's going on on a five string bass forum tonight, you know? Somebody needs that. Like he needs to ask somebody in his life that question

Then he doesn't have to go to reddit to ask the question because the answer is always going to be yes Yeah, look like a fucking goober. You don't need to weird way to look I think what he's he's trying to get somebody to say no you won't look like that That's he knows in his heart of hearts that he will look like a fucking idiot with Over-ear headphones and a bass guitar running down a trail Practically, I don't even know like legit like how would you even he's gonna be running while he plays or just walking But yeah, he knows you look stupid, but he's like he's just hoping for one person to come in and be like you know What man here's a really well thought-out reason explanation as to why that would be a good thing to do and then he'd be like

Oh, yeah, that is something I'm gonna now. Like he just wants that I feel yeah It's the equivalent of like when you're googling symptoms and you're just trying to find the one that's like It's just like a headache Roll through a bunch of comments saying you'll look like the dumbest fuck in the world I would beat the shit out of you if you saw you It gets to one with like 19 down votes That's like I still do that all the time and like, you know, there was yeah Yeah, so that's what I'd have to say about that

It's funny because when you go to the replies this first guy goes practicing while doing something else is always tempting seems very efficient There are some things you can do simultaneously, but I think serious musical practice is not one of them. It would either be ineffective cardio or ineffective practice. So you might as well do them at different times. By all means try it. I think a better idea would be just to practice in nature. And then a guy replies and goes, totally disagree. How do you disagree with that? How do you disagree? That's the most true thing I've ever heard. Oh, that's awesome. Well, he goes, focus practice is very important, but so is unfocus. This is a task where compartmentalization is incredibly important.

At some point, you need to move on from CDEF to play a scale. And this is what happens when people score movies in TV, for example. If at some point you can't thoughtlessly play along with your favorite TV show or movie You're doing yourself a disservice by not figuring out how so so it it's a practice You're practicing being like checked out kind of yeah and being able to play But that's not important to I don't think I don't think I think if you're playing music I think it's okay to just be you know when you're up there to just Focus on doing it I mean there's just so many different paradigms and like I I'm guilty of doing this shit like I go on forums of like oh

Man, I want this pedal and then I go on and then someone says like oh man Don't get this pedal and then the next person says get this pedal and then I'm like am I really listening to fucking lone wolf 1278? Like you don't know anything about So fucked man he could be so fucked he could be like the most fucking evil guy ever you know Oh, you know you just think you know to me Yeah, you automatically I always think that there's a bias like it's this thing where it's just like you think all of these people know What they're doing like yeah, you know to me that would love to hear that guy saying like you need to have practice while you're thinking and subconscious Practice meanwhile like he might not even be able to play come as you are

And some of them are trolls even there's even the true factor where people are gonna be in there telling you the exact wrong Thing as a joke thinking that that's funny I'm always worried about evil guys though I really am like what if they're evil and then I take advice from them and then all of a sudden I find out You know like my life has been steered by a seer like someone who's a evil serial killer or something and now they helped like Influence my life, but what are you chops though? You know? What if he had chops though, you know? Yeah, that's what I was going with. Chops, tell me at least.

I'm most worried about that, is that they actually helped me. And then I find out later on that my life was greatly helped by a very terrible serial killer. This guy goes, yeah, you would look either dumb or like you're showing off, which I don't think you'd look like you're showing off. To be honest, I think you would look dumb. Like it wouldn't be the showing off thing. Yeah.

A guy replies. Yeah, mostly dumb. Yeah. I think it's like trial and error. I mean, I'm sure you guys have tried where it's just like you multitask. I like a multitask. So like I remember when I was learning guitar, probably 13, 14, and I was like, you know what I gotta take a shit Oh, yeah, maybe you know, I can I'm bringing the I'm bringing the guitar to the toilet I figured out the first day that does not work out You don't need that. Yeah, you know what I mean like that five to six minutes

Whatever like it's way more work than it's worth trying to get it down on that You know, so like it's trial and error as far as multitask goes. Yeah, I lived with a guy who I live with a buddy, of course, I live with a guy that played bass and He would just say we lived in a fucking mobile home So small and it was five of us plus two kids and this guy how come I? Don't remember why we live there. I think we're trying. And this guy. How come? I don't remember why we lived there. I think we were trying to help this guy out. This guy Pat was having trouble, not you Pat, of course.

He's having trouble. He knows it wasn't him. He's having trouble paying his. I was on the toilet. Yeah, he's having trouble paying his rent in his mobile home, so me and my wife moved in. And then our friend Nate moved in too. And then the guy got back with his wife my wife moved in and then our friend Nate moved in too and then

the guy got back with his wife and she moved in and so we're all living in this tiny trailer and the guy Nate that I lived with just sat on the couch the whole time he was home with his bass in an amp playing mud shovel with an amp yeah I'd be playing like NFL 2k. He would be sitting on the fucking couch Just playing mud shovel all day long. I'm sorry that Sounds very trashy and I don't want to be disrespectful to you I know that you've probably never heard this before but that does sound a little bit Suspect is there's there's what was everybody else doing?

How big was the trailer? I was a roofer at the time. People just kept moving in. Yeah, there was definitely a stain somewhere in that trailer that was getting cleaned up. So there had to be at least three or four active stains happening in that trailer park. No offense, but you're hearing stained the

bed on base while probably looking at one to three stains. Yeah, you're sitting in there, you're in your, you're in your bed. It's like 11 o'clock in the morning and you just hear doodoo doodoo doodoo doodoo. Would he sing along ever? Did he get the guitar? There were no guitarists in the house and there were no drums. I don't think this guy ever played with another musician in his whole life. See just basement. Just so you straight base.

How old did you have, Gwen? No, I was like 19 or 20. Here's here's a good question. Guitarist in our band. This is from Rennberg 33, and he says guitarist in our band gives me little to no respect partial rant How do you folks I'm currently in a band with five people myself on bass keyboard a singer guitarist drummer and other less experienced bass players to base pay You might be getting replaced kind of soon, buddy. Oh, yeah, they got this other guy

That's been hanging around learning the bass stuff from me He goes And we've been jamming together for about six months and I'd like some advice I've been playing bass for about a year and a half and by no means consider myself amazing at the instrument I can play relatively simple stuff and most of what we want to play I can play at the instrument, I can play relatively simple stuff and most of what we want to play I can play covers and some of our own stuff. Our guitarist likes to say at least three times a band practice that bass isn't a hard instrument and on top of that whenever I try to steer everyone in a direction like, hey Mr. Drummer you should try this instead of that or hey

since we don't have lyrics we should all write a few lines just to brainstorm or he'll go, hey Mr. Bass. You're playing too many notes I get immediately shut down by the guitarist now Here's the double-edged sword. The guitarist is my older brother. Oh Okay, I mean listen, what do you he's bullying you I Mean, this is you know, you're not familiar with this tail as old as time I know that most of what he says is in jest But when it starts to disrupt our brainstorming process, I can't help but feel annoyed

I feel that part of the issue is that he likes to be the one who calls the shots Both of our current original songs are based entirely around his riffs And one of them is hard to work with for the whole band Feel free to let me know if I'm being ridiculous or not I know part of this is a brotherly love of pissing each other off. And I've confronted them a few times before, but I'd like to know how to deal with bandmates

like this in the future. So, no respect for this guy at all. No, I mean, it's familial though. I feel like, you know, and I don't know if this is a term. They probably use it, but I mean like, bassist? You know what I mean? Oh. Anti-bass.

Oh, I see. With a C, with a C. Bassist. Bassist. Bassist, yeah. Yeah, yeah. At first I thought it sounded bassist, but then it was more of like a brother. It was more of a situation where it's like,

you guys might have your own issues going back a long way And this is or this is just like kind of how you guys communicate with each other Right like as brothers that sounds like you just you don't have like a super maybe like loving relationship or or warm relationship Maybe who's that other bass player sniffing around though? That's the question player sniffing around though that's the question that is the good question that's my i'm playing in a band and they have the exact same you know a person playing the same instrument as me i'm i'm concerned definitely i'll say this that i did read so many stories of bass players being like hey i've been playing with this band for like six weeks and then I went on Facebook and they were looking for a new bass player

then they didn't tell me that they were practicing. You know what I mean? Like it does seem like a thing that goes on with bands where like they're kind of don't wanna, they don't want the confrontation. Cowards. We're cowards, yeah. Musicians are fucking cowards.

They won't, you know, the oldest trick in the book is that you break up the band and then you change the name and then you don't call the wrong guy. I saw a few of those. Guy was like really bummed out about it. And I kind of felt, I did feel sorry for him because it's like, oh man, you're just not good enough for these guys or they don't like you.

And it feels like, aw man, you're just not good enough for these guys or they don't like you. And it feels like it happens so much. So these bass players get real mad at this story. I want, I love it because they're, this guy goes, tell them to get fucked. You're the bass player, that's your spot. Practice on your own, listen and discern what other bassists are doing.

Emulate them or you'll start to develop develop your sound don't let your killjoy brother Manipulate you in front of the band. He's pulling a power play not being brotherly It's not cool and then a guy replies and goes I was gonna say this especially since he's your brother Tell him to kiss your ass and then a guy goes There are a million guitarists fuck him. He's easily replaceable guitarist are the most common musician No, seriously escalate this into a serious family issue No, honestly, I've heard enough to know that you should fucking just upend your entire relationship With your brother. I would actually wait till like the end of end of November. Maybe like the end of December. Yeah

24th to 26th of December on the holidays. Just just blow it up. I would work it out. Bring us to Thanksgiving and you know, honestly, tell him, tell him the turkey, tell him that you and your family are starting a new family and doing dinner at a different family place and then he's not invited to this different family place. This guy who plays an Ibanez. I don't know if that helps you out any at all. That's a guitar That's it. Or is it is it a base? I mean either corn played. Yes I owned an Ibanez when I had a guitar. I did have a guitar

Also, like they're known for like that's when you need like a nine string Like that's Ibanez is gonna get why would you need that? Good point Chris Seven string is what I wanted so bad, but they were so expensive and I really wanted a seven string Ibanez I think that's why I didn't really learn guitar because I was like I can't have you what I want You think you would have become really intuitive that you think it was the extra strings would have really gotten a never right guitar I didn't have oh This will pick up though, but like have you ever played the corn chord? I'm just picking for those just listening I'm picking up my strat and it's like it might pick up but

Did you yeah? Yeah, yeah, we heard it. Yeah, Brian. I just saw your eyes like Just like it's like it was like a highlighter for a second like yeah You know every fucking thumbnail has that stupid outline around everybody do you guys do that? I do that You guys do that. I fucking hate it We don't have a YouTube channel, but my friend Rob who's on the I mean I used to only have a YouTube channel So but yet the our friend Rob who's been on the podcast a few times Rob Wiseman He used to have the bet the uber driver sucked me off And it was one of those thumbnails that was

I always think of that with the outline of the people like looking all weird and shit. Yes. They love that outline I mean I use it sometimes, I do. But you, I actually, Brian, I saw your outline when I played the chord chord, which is. That sounds so good. I bet we could do this probably 30 times in a row and you would just react. Yeah, the second time.

Oh, that one we talked over it and he actually had sort of a grimace on his face is that we were talking over it. Hold on, Hold on. Oh Then but if we had a bass player we could get the next part that's the part that really rock This is good, okay Listen he will You could do that or talk about fucking AEW wrestling and he'll just sit there

You completely forget about what we're doing on the podcast. Hold on one second though. That was let's just say this again though Tell the tape that was an unplugged Electric guitar through a fucking not not mic'd through an audio mic. He was getting in the pit You were ready for the fucking pit. Hey, I like corn. What can I say? I will say this though. I do like good music I want to make sure that people know this because they often think I only listen to corn He likes Danzig as well. Okay, don't bring up those guys either Well, what's the other one that you really had to not type? Oh negative type. Oh negative type

He does like some yeah, he likes some good musicians and good guys like Dan's ex one of his don't say good guys I said the two fucking singers that look like wrestlers, which is amazing that totally makes sense. Holy shit Pat I never thought of that. That's probably some of the appeal for him Definitely and even like ICP and corn are sort of like red Like you know what? I mean, they have like They would be like ECW wrestlers. Yeah They literally were in they what they were in. Yeah, like they wrestled and stuff But I haven't listened to ICP said I haven't listened to new ICP since like but Brian bizarre bizarre

And I've only been to their concerts because one of the roadies for Attila knows My old show well and he invited me and I was like well fuck I can't your family you come from a fully Juggalo family don't act like your whole entire family is not juggalos And you don't have a guy who is in an actual juggalo band That and he sits outside of the concerts and sells drugs you know that's true hey well he's he's just an important in the juggalo scene it's not important this guy goes uh you need to be aggressive as a bass player and stand your ground this is crazy this is way too many bass players way too many bass players shut

up and take it and that's exactly why we get a bad reputation as not being vital Fuck guitar players. They're usually insecure pricks attracted to their instrument via superficial marketing Programming versus actual interest in music and theory and time and organized noise. So that guy is Very angry. He is our biggest bass advocate that they're pissed. He's ready to go I mean he's bringing it to like moon landing conspiracy level just like you know this Dave this big guitar this is just more big guitar propaganda of oh yeah yeah you got all the effects we don't need effects. Guy walking outside of that Capitol Records building in LA with a big base plate base just Brian that is a cool building though. You got to admit big fan of that building. Yeah, where do you live? I live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

So you don't have you been to Los Angeles and seen that building I have I've seen the building and I look at it It's it's one of those buildings you look at for a little while a little longer than the other buildings It's a cool building Brian. It's cool. We can talk about this stuff, but Brian's not he's that he doesn't he doesn't make it out Oh west too often to Los Angeles, so he's probably a little bit lost this guy this here's a new guy And this is just a funny one Let's just take a minute to acknowledge the fact that base is the hardest yet most analyzed job in the entertainment industry That is a huge industry by the way. That's not just rock not just music or music or anything It's scrutinized and he goes it's more analyzed than like film direction. I think that's what he's saying

Entertainment industry she that's all of it. He goes, you know what I mean? I just mean that bass players hold the world of entertainment together. And yet it's still the toughest job to prove you're good at. Because a lot of people don't pay attention to it. But those at the top level understand how important it is. If it's tough to prove that you're good at something.

You might not be good. Might not be hard or impressive or something. I don't really know how that works, but it sounds like not something you would wanna say. Tough to prove, that's the first time I've ever heard that phrase. Tough to prove, like imagine if LeBron was just trying to prove that he's good at basketball

this entire time. Which is like, I don't know, we still don't know. LeBron, you better play one more season. He's like, well, it's tough. This has been tough to prove. People don't know how good I am. I've been saying it. I'll sit there and play for them for like three hours and they're always just like, okay, like it's crazy. It's not like mud shovel to me. It was alright, but can you can you prove it? I feel like bass. Here's the thing bass People people love talking about Like the forums it goes back to like how awesome it is that anybody everybody is Getty Lee and I did that for you Chris

Thank you. Everybody's Getty Lee on the forums. You know what I mean? It's just like but like they're the guys that are playing all along the watchtower at the open mic and nothing against those guys You know what I mean, but it's just like that's what's so Amazing about how tough everybody is like, um, but it's a beauty of the internet It's a beauty of the internet is that yeah, you got that anonymity. So it's like hey Sometimes they it's why those guys who are on those forums love the stories where it's like They find out that a real musician or like a famous person or whatever gets caught posting on the forums because then that gives them a little more of a chance of like

See, maybe I am actually a guy who knows a lot of what I'm talking about I'm not but you don't know I'm not you know, but they also power mean loans back to Lone Star 1278 I mean, I've listened or lone wolf. I've I've like not bought it. I'm like man too many the lone wolves Don't like this model I have doing it professionally and you know and so you're and oh you're out here getting influenced By a person I do too. Yeah, it happens. It's happened to me definitely for sure when you do because I'm not doing so my old Brian used to just, if he wanted to buy something, he would say,

and what's the most expensive one? And then just buy it, because assuming it's the best. I don't do that anymore. I'm out of that game now, but I think I do something even worse. I type best thing and then add read it to the end of it so that I only get read it Things cuz then I'm like well You know these people are posting all day and a forum about a very specific thing

They have to know what they're talking about things sometimes they do it depends on what it is But I don't think I've done that before Definitely where you just say go to a forum and you read a bunch of things and see what's getting outvoted a lot and it gives you a feeling of what the people are thinking. But yeah, at the end of the day, yeah, you are listening to some fucking random ass people and letting them sort of steer you around.

But then again, you're listening to some random ass person if you read some review or whatever, I guess. There's just too many decisions, that's the problem. I just remember like when the convenience store started to add like the second cooler of drinks and then it's just like, oh man, I just, I thought I just wanted a fucking water. Like what kind of water do I want? Do I want life water? Do I want enzymes in the fucking water? What kind of, what size do I want? 24 or 32 with the sports water? What kind of what size do I want? 2432 with the sports Bob fuck sports bottle caps, but I hate them too pat No, they're the worst and then there's the third and then the fourth drink and now the whole entire wall is just drinks

There's a lot and it's just like I sometimes I walk out of there dry because I'm Decision and that's kind of like every single purchase I make now Yeah, I'm getting new baldish shit hats in right I had to make a decision on what fucking bags I'm gonna ship them in I'm reading from reading descriptions and fucking reviews on bags Did you ship it in bags, so that's really nice we do merge rain shipping in no bag I don't know what we're shipping it What do we don't know is the fucking probably shipping like a in like a Loathing I think or a box for some of it. Maybe I don't know we have somebody in that though

Well, I don't what did we we did hats before and what did we do them and we're doing hats again Our hats are so cool. It said flub on it, but in the corn font. So that's great Yeah, guess why is the beam backwards? There's gotta be something backwards I don't know if it is you is I think the you I have a big flag that says flub in the corn font behind me But you can't see it. How can you be backwards? Well, that's interesting It's a little thing on it, you know on the side of it. Yeah, but it I'll tell you what People hated them, you know to be honest with you I even thought about it on our net they hated them because of the type of hat they were they were like the big

Flat brim like big huge high new era ones and people weren't into the so I was thinking we're gonna do another hat this time like a dad cap like a 47 cleanup or whatever which is what I'm wearing right now and Yeah, I was thinking of doing one or whatever which is what I'm wearing right now and Yeah, I was thinking of doing one How about we do a hat that sort of commemorate the other bad hat and we put on the hat like the flub hat You know like that design on the dad hat to commemorate

Chris you had me when you said your back hurt now you're talking fucking shapes of hats man. I mean this Brian this is this is meant to be we're meant be here. Brian gets mad about this kind of stuff. But yeah, I think now that I don't like business, let's talk three to four minutes. But my back has been quite sore lately. Yeah, I'm making a career out of it. Yeah, I had surgery, Chris. So I think really, you know. Yeah. So here's one.

I got this for you. Sounds like maybe his has been dealt with then and so he's probably in a better situation It sounds like I am pre surgery. No, no, no. No. Oh, I don't know I find pre surgery says stands to reason that you have had medical intervention now and therefore must be in a better Situation than me. I have the aggrieved party. I have a kid and my back is perfectly fine you have a 20 year old kid who doesn't live there. It's not The kid I got this for you pat. I looked this up most overrated basis now There's a reason I looked this up because this guy goes I see a lot of comments in this group regarding players who are underrated

But haven't seen much about overrated bases. Two that immediately come to mind are Sid Vicious. Oh yeah. Well no, I was going to guess Flea but Sid Vicious. Okay, go ahead. And Nicky Sixx, who I know you're a fan of. Wow. This is awesome. Yeah, I know you're a motley crew guy. He goes considering Nikki's this guy replies

It goes considering Nikki six wrote 95% of Motley's discography. I probably say he's perfectly rated So okay as a bassist, that's different. I'm not I don't know anything about it, but that is a different thing, right? You could be a great songwriter, but not a good technical bassist, but he's good. Is he good? Well, I mean my bass, as a band is the thing. Well, Molly crew, what's my line? Dumbest band for dumbest fans. I feel like Roger Waters wrote a lot of Pink Floyd, you know, he's the bass player and Pink Floyd. You don't have to be a technically good bass player to like, you know, be a good bass player. It's so weird. Like is Nikki Sixx a good bass player?

No, no one's ever like, oh man, one day I want to learn how to play Dr. Feelgood just like Nikki Sixx. You know what I mean? Like, oh, da da da da da da da da. It gets me. It's so funny. My first favorite band was Motley Crue, Pat, in my whole not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look.

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I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying Duff has the look. I'm not saying D He looks cool. You can't, back then, has the look. Duff has the look, you know what I mean? I'm not saying Duff McKagan from Guns N' Roses isn't a good bass player, but anybody can pretty much. If you're a guitar player, you can play all of those bass lines on Guns N' Roses pretty easily.

But do you look like Duff, and is your name Duff? You know what I mean? And that's- Duff McKagan is such a badass fucking rock and roll name. Oh fucking rules. My name is Pat Finnerty You know what I mean? Like it's not happening So if you took any of the fucks that are on this podcast right now and put us in Motley Crue guns and roses man It's probably not happening. It's not gonna happen Hey, here's our new bass player Kweeber

But there's old famous that's my old nickname, but we don't call me that anymore. There's more almost everybody calls them that There's not a lot of famous Brian's in bands. I can't think I'm Brian Brian Is this all well you why why let's not guys in from a Isn't that lead to the new lead singer of AC DC name. I wouldn't say he's new. You know what I mean? 80. I'm an older guy. All right. This guy goes, Well, Nick, this this forum got so mad about this post. I love it. Well, Nikki six wrote most of Molly Crews song.

So he's not overrated in that sense, even if you don't like him. Sid was perfectly rated. He couldn't play at all and everyone knew it. But then this next guy goes, I don't know which angle you're talking about About being overrated but Nikki six might not be like they're so mad that he said Nikki six That the whole rest of the thing is just be like Nikki six wrote all of Monty Cruz song. Yeah Yeah, I knew a guy I think I mentioned before but I knew a guy who murdered somebody when I was younger and he changed his name legally to Nikki six Sarafino so that's that's my big yeah he's a guy that we grew up with and he ended up murdering someone and I don't know anyway ever killed like evil thing is starting to make sense now a lot of I knew a lot of people

who murdered people. Not me, I didn't know any bad guys. I grew up in Vancouver, you know what I mean? Not in a bad area, anything like that. I didn't grow up in gangs, but just weirdly, in our school and stuff, there was a lot of murder and stuff like that. Anyways.

I like this guy who I hate, actually. This pissed me off. The guy goes, the one from corn He can't even fucking say the man. No, he knows the name the man. He knows the name. He's Doing that on purpose Reginald right Reginald field II are of ease who originally fielding snuts. Oh I don't know these nuts. I forgot that that was it that that was These nuts that was it. That was, yeah. I didn't know it was Fieldy Snuts. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fieldy Snuts.

I think. Fieldy Snuts, like Randy Snuts from Gommie Bang Bang. Fieldy Snuts. Yeah, that's, we learned that when we watched that weird corn, he talked about it on like some documentary or something. Awesome. Let me ask you this, Brian, as a corn fuck,

like why, I always have a problem with all the Bon Jovi, like Bon Jovi people, like you know, they don't really like music, but I mean, Bon Jovi fans, they like his butt. They like Jon Bon Jovi's butt. They're women that like his ass. But Richie is in the fucking band forever. Richie's the guy.

He's Joe Perry. He's Keith. He's Keith Richards. He leaves, and they're all fine. They're fine with it. How are you okay with K corn moving on without field II like I'll say they need field II's the fucking mascot. He's field II I love that you say this they just hired another fat guy to play bass It's actually not that bad

You can really almost close your eyes and be because that's what I saw him and I told my brother I was like, you know, I'm really glad they hired another fat guy to play bass it's not like they didn't hire some thin bass player they hired a guy that if you squint you could turn him into fieldie yeah when he's on his studies pigeonholed into that just like Corgan can only have a female bass player yeah yeah cuz it was like I I had forgotten cuz that band there the funny guy is their old drummer David who was in like Calvin Klein ads political guy and all that shit. Yeah very right-wing

very fucking weird man, he's got a He's got a cameo account How much behind I don't know I don't remember how much it is, but behind him. And by the way, he hasn't been in corn since like he, cause the funny thing I heard, the funny thing I've read, not that I heard, I'm acting like I know those guys. Is that like when head Brian head Welch was out of the band to be Christian, David was calling him being like, we should get back in the band, man. You know? And like, let's do it.

And they brought head back into the band and not David. Like he very publicly wants to be back in the band. That's amazing. Okay. Then they don't bring them back. My favorite thing and not, let's get back to base. I don't want to side real too much, but, um, my favorite thing about Cornell has always been like monkey head, fieldie, Jonathan Davis. Well, he does have a nickname, but it's kind of offensive. And I have his autograph somewhere in his house.

He goes by, when he signs his autograph, he puts an H and then the I under it, and then V, HIV into a smiley face. That's his signature that's his nickname that's his nickname HIV so my favorite that's yeah my favorite member of corn is definitely the monkey and it always has been the idea of just having a guy called the monkey in the band isn't is awesome to me but yeah I thought about your you're right Pat out there Oh, they all go by like these ridiculous names and then John

Garfield as your lead singer Actually, I'm I'm actually a little bit more serious about it than you guys. I would like to use my Christian name, please Yeah, he is Jonathan he's never John Davis That is not John Davis, but that's right Yeah, yeah And yeah He did also do his DJ side project where he was jaydevil and people would go see him in Concert and they'd be like I want to hear some corn songs and yeah, he's not playing in fucking corn songs Or that that would suck is he killed 100% of the time?

Are you getting a kill every night like if I go to see tonight, am I getting a kill? No, he's in jeans now. Um, he's, I think, I don't think he's worn it cause I saw him in 2019, February, 2019, right before COVID. It's the last thing I did. Yeah. And, or 2020. And then I saw him again last week and listen, I keep saying this and you guys will make fun of me or whatever They turned into an arena rock band. He comes out there He's got the cool pants on with all the stuff hanging off of them and like a black t-shirt And he just takes up that whole stage. He's walking back and forth. It's very exciting Space ship mic stand I feel like that muse. Oh, yeah

Yeah, kids who came first with that spaceship mic stand the muse guy or that or JD I feel like JD owns that kind of like the HR guy or kind of like Terminator Predator Mike Stan Yeah, yeah, here's one. Here's one for you Pat Mark Hoppus a joke of a bass player shots fired Isn't that really simple wouldn't that be simple am I wrong about that like playing for blink 182 Yeah, well easy. It would be really easy to do right so like baby is he again? And I don't know anything about technically speaking is he really would you agree that he's really bad bad?

No, he's a competent punk rock bassist I mean, he's the kind of guy that's like he does the lead bass like do do do do do do do do do do do do Do like, you know fast pick like he's nowhere close to you know, like a Technically proficient, but he's fine. I mean he's it's a put that style of music for that style of music Yeah, you don't have to be like Victor Wooten. See, I know bass players. There you go, right. We grew up talking about Jaco Pastorius all the time

because we all wanted to be bass players. And we would be like, you know who the best bass player is? Jaco Pastorius. I've never heard a Jaco Pastorius song in my entire life. Like I didn't hear it then. No one has. No one has. You know what I mean?

Did he play in a band, famous? I think he was just Jaco Pastorius. He ran around going boobadoobadoobadoob. He played with Joni Mitchell. OK. But he beat the instrument. He was like, I'm better than the instrument itself. I don't need frets.

I can freeform. And do you really want to hear it all the time? No. But Matt Freeman is the bass player from Rancid. He rips. Like, he's like the Jocko of 90s punk, at least. He's just like really fast. And you know, Hoppus would want to be him, but he's not him.

But like, basically, if you could just play a major scale and your wrist is strong enough in there That was my favorite we talked about Brian's favorite first favorite band I think that was my first favorite band was rancid like when I yeah, they were so good But I'm curious and you remembered I was gonna ask you when it happened, but I forgot but what was your first favorite band? Do you remember I think well, you know it happened, but I forgot. But what was your first favorite band, do you remember? I think, well, you know, The Beatles.

The Beatles. One of my favorite bands, yeah, when I was getting those early tapes. But no one needs to hear it. I was into The Beatles' story again. And then Nirvana. But my sister was listening to Gones too. I was like, Gones was in there.

Yeah. I was big into Nirvana as well. After Rance and I got into Nirvana. Nirvana was everything for yeah, totally totally I got into nirvana after the whole thing happened like I didn't like them when they were famous I was more into rap and hair metal Not hair metal like guns and roses

Pantera like hair metal I like parents the anthrax public enemy had to do something for you. I would imagine that did you something night soundtrack was probably huge. Yes. It, you know, the album sucks. We, I like reviewed it on my other show. It was like, this is torture. This is one of the worst thing. Like I, I think like the two things too. Yeah. The two things I've learned doing that podcast is that like Everlast is so bad like yes like you know in a

Astounding way that like that album that hit whitey Ford sings the blues is the worst thing you'll ever hear in your entire life It is that's a one with like the famous song has that one It is so fucking bad. Is that the one with the famous song, it has that one song. Anybody might know what it's like. Know what it's like. That was a huge, huge song. Brian, it was, it was fucking everywhere.

Have you seen, you've seen the Everlast Woodstock 99 performance, right? I was at Woodstock 99. This guy was amazing. I almost worked it, I was almost there. But I did a podcast where we watched every set. Yeah. And that was rough. I'm like, you're the house of, you're the jump around guy. You know what I mean? Like play jump around and he did, but it was around that. I wonder how often he heard that at his concerts or lower.

More often than not, he was like, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I're the jump around guy. You know, like play jump around any Around that's I wonder how often he heard that at his concerts So we lower more music festivals probably cuz I guess the concerts would be his fans mostly but at music festivals You know just telling him to play jump around so good Jump around I got it. So good. I mean Cypress Hill I was so into as well when I was a kid It was one of the first like that and like I think that was in the same sort ofpress Hill I was so into as well when I was a kid it was one of the first like that and like I Think that was in the same sort of time when I was so maybe Snoop Dogg if it's counting as a group would be my first Favorite artist when I was nine years old actually I have to say Pat that my favorite Woodstock

Nineteen well first of all corn was my favorite. I was there for that. It was all was a moment You were you in the fucking jump it were you in yeah? Yeah, both of them when biscuit and corn I was there for that. It was awesome. It was a moment. Were you in the fucking jump? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both of them. Limp Bizkit and Korn. I was in like, both of them. That's big. That's big. I can acknowledge that moment. That's a big moment. But like, my favorite one to watch now is Buck Cherry. That is the fucking funniest one

where he does like a seven minute version of either Crazy Bitch or All Lit Up. It is so fucking funny They didn't have crazy bitch at that time I was trying to count the fucks during that set and I couldn't like it was it was over like a hundred and thirty And then every now and then just You're actually not getting a

fellatio right now. Like he was just talking like he was. They're here. They come here all the time. I mean, they do their Columbus like through through Columbus is like their New York City, like that's the biggest, you know what I mean? Like, wow, we got a capital city um There's a place called king of clubs here that has all those For cards I would be a little pissed off. I was king at clubs right. It's like famously Worth less than the ace of clubs. It's like lower worth less than the ace of clubs it's like lower you know I wonder what came up yeah that's a good venue though a cup rock love ace of cops it's one of my and it's the best name of anything

that's ever been named ace of I'd loved it their bar is like a big waterbed like what the waterbed headboard is like their bar. I mean, they, I love that place. I saw a lot of cancel bands there. How big, like how many people does it hold? I don't know. Like what type of bands would you see there? Something like that. Yeah, we did a show there and did really well.

It's pretty big, but it's like big, small, you know? I would say you never know. You could cram probably 500 people who knows but I killer Mike there And so I we're watching killer Mike. He has to go on and I hate this. This has happened to me I when I was torn with the old podcast and stuff where they're like, uh, we got to do karaoke tonight at 9 So can you start at 6 and be done by 8? And I saw killer Mike at 6 PM on a Tuesday. Oh, man.

Done by eight. I was like, man, I can't believe they did that to Killer Mike. Killer Mike couldn't even get booked over the karaoke? Damn, man. Karaoke's popular, though. We're doing a music episode, so we got one more thing we wanna do.

You know what, we gotta get you on the stream to watch the Metallica guy. The Metallica. Are you just do them? Are you a whiskey drinker at all? No, no, I'm a I'm a I'm a Tito alert guy. I retired from drink. I you know, I tried. Yeah, I don't drink it. Actually, none of us drink on here I guess but we I think we could still probably even just smelling it we could you could probably appreciate as a musician You'd be able to appreciate the Metallica whiskey because it's of course a little different with Metallica It's basically at the they put the music up against the barrels and they play different music playlist of Metallica for it

up against the barrels and they play different music playlists of Metallica for it. And they are taking it quite seriously. And Lars and James are shit. This is yeah. Yeah. They were there. They were whiskey to hear it. We watched them have like a very serious discussion about it with some whiskey guy on the stream. It's completely insane. And then we kept pointing out that what's his name doesn't drink anymore James doesn't drink This whiskey is like they're endorsing this whiskey about his alcoholism But he's like so you can't drink this but how can we keep talking about it like you drank it either

You're lying in some way, you know And then yeah, Lars was just laying in the cut the whole time looking so fucked up and then they yeah right at the end He does they have in the funniest line ever is when he comes in the guy That makes the whiskey is like and everybody has kind of a different palette and then Lars was like You know the word palette should be used more when it comes to rock and roll, I think. And just very serious. And then it goes back to the other, the, the whiskey guy and he goes, uh, yeah, like palette

has three meanings. You know what I mean? And they're like discussing palette. Like a wood, like a wood palette. We were joking about that. Like, you know, like we're like, Oh, like, Oh, like there's a wood, like a palette in a warehouse, like, you you know like trying to pretend And then they literally started saying that like that was and Lars Lars has a toothpick in his mouth and it's hat backwards

Yeah, that's ridiculous. You don't do that. Don't do the toothpick. That's yeah. He looks so old. He looks so old It's crazy now. He has huge veneers because when I saw him here, big chompers My teeth just got bigger I'm not sure You could see him because like they would put the camera on James when he's singing and you could just see Lars Hector And it's just fucking his huge white chompers are going. Oh, well, you're growing your teeth are staying the same size Oh, yeah, no might have gotten quite large It's much better for eating. Well before we go, I want to do something Pat. I think you'll like this so I you probably know this that people do reviews of

Concerts on Ticketmaster. Did you know that I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me Yeah, it's a great place for reviews We do you get a lot of parking lot reviews a lot of reviews happening You know right as they're watching the show because they're so angry and a lot of people are Talking about stuff that really the band doesn't have a whole lot of control over The venue and things like that, you know This is a two-star review for the anthem in Washington refuel yet, and this is the anthem in Washington nine three twenty four Okay, I was already disappointed when fishbone was removed from the lineup

But the replacement was I kid you not a sad karaoke clown literally That's not the name of a band No, I said karaoke clown. They're saying it. That's really what they had they had a band. No, a sad karaoke clown. They're saying that's really what they had. They had a clown come out and do sad karaoke. That's what I and this is a Primus concert by the way. So I don't even know why you're mad that weird stuff is happening.

Oh, yeah. Right. You got to expect it. You got to come prepared that you might get a little bit fucked with maybe. Yeah, I kid you not. A sad karaoke clown clown literally a clown Who did not play any instruments or have any backup band just him doing sad covers? It was the very worst opening act I have ever seen over

Hundreds of shows in many different genres the next act coheed and Cambria Was was informed by a doctor just before taking the stage that the singer should not perform that evening. So that whole set was karaoke too with the audience filling in the completely Unintelligible lyrics. So this happened. There's a bunch of reviews where they're like the lead singer Claudio of coheed and Canberra Yeah, Cambria couldn't sing and he came out and they were like would it be all right if we play the songs and you sing in the crowd it's like and they're and everyone in the crowd is like I guess so in unison I'm not sure what you want to say what's the alternative this isn't like back to blink 182 like this isn't people singing like I miss you yeah I mean doesn't this guy sound like Eddie Lee and I said that for you again Chris. Yeah, thank you. I think they mentioned in the post that it's like unintelligent. It's like very they're not the type of lyrics that are super clear that everybody knows. Yeah, it's prog. It's prog rock about the guy is telling it's my

favorite thing. The Mars Volta did this too when they first came out. Yeah, it's my favorite thing the Mars Volta did this to when they first came out. It's this album is a story All of my albums are a story and then he's like all right a comic book of the story So you all understand the story and you read the comic book and there's just no possible way to fucking understand what he's talking about The bars Volta did that with their first album. They were like this album is a concept It is telling one story from the first song to the last song and I got it on vinyl when it first came out By the way, I gave it away. It's worth like six hundred dollars now that bums me out. Sorry Actually, the guy gave it to keeps offering to give it back, but I feel bad that could get you one to two Lego sets I

Don't have any Legos anymore Say that I just want to tell you Pat the only reason he doesn't have Legos behind him is because he's moving That's why it's all blank behind him. By the way, he used to have a Lego town like a full town of like, okay You know, I've got Lego heads man. I got him. I got my one of my friends is a I Mean, I'm a big fan of Lego. He's a hater. It's good luck. Does he do, cause I like the creativity of the mock.

Do you know if he does any mocks, like my own creation, or does he do a lot of out of the box crap? I think he just, wow, I gotta talk to him about this. Cause he would know like, does it, do the out of the box people get shamed? Cause I thought he just does sets. A little bit, just for lack of creativity Like a lot of the people who are high-level builders

You know Are doing a lot of my own creation where they're like, yeah, I'm kind of like I'm a bit of an architect You know, okay. Well, he's like a huge Star Wars fuck. So it's like, yeah, all that stuff Star Wars fuck so it's like yeah, all that stuff In all seriousness Brian, I mean Brian that he stopped buying a lot of it But Brian used to do that go and Brian's all about the building of it, which makes sense It's like a thing to do away to good places So well, I think it has a lot to do with mental health too Like my friend is always just like it takes me away. It just gives me something to do

Yeah, and you know, it's a way to zone out for an hour or whatever. And I just rock a watch wrestling and do I think for Brian that because Brian, you don't really care about them once they're built at all. Not even at all. That's why I gave them all away. Yeah, you don't give a shit. You just want to do play with them. Like, you know, this guy, he goes. So he goes with the audience filling in completely unintelligible lyrics I had been told that I would recognize at least a few of their songs, but no

Finally Primus came on but brought the sad clown back out for two more Did not seem to know all the lyrics to the lead Song they selected to cover that's really funny. This is this sounds like one of the funniest God's rich in the history of the world amazing. I mean the cloud. It's got to be puddles pity party. Yes Okay, yeah, that's it. It it feels like yeah, like it feels odd because if you're a big fan of Primus I do feel like I mean be like, oh this was fucking awesome It was fucking so crazy and ridiculous that like we were trying to sing you couldn't tell what though You know, like this is feels like what you would want at a primus show

Yeah, a weird concert is what you're looking for. I like some of the some of the music in the world Like alright, it's like, you know, it's just like I'm like all right. It's like you know it's just like Like no you're not getting a melody the whole entire night. You know what I mean I Yeah, and like clown could have been a little happier Stage he's making he gets to play It's like it's like you're up there on stage, and I'm paying for you to be there So you could be happy goes uh he goes it was so Frustrating to wait so long for the only band worth listening to that evening

Only to have the concert you fucking sorry. That's a concert Yeah, you have to get and get there and then you wait a long time There's the long time between they do it on purpose. So you'll buy a bunch of drinks It's the whole thing man. If you've ever like this my guy hasn't been to a lot of concerts I feel like maybe he goes if I didn't want to be stranded downtown after the subway closed I made the last train to the night with less than a minute to spare That was the best part of the entire night So glad I saw the farewell to Kings tour two years ago, which was

Exponentially better than this train wreck of a concert. Like I did not like the concert. He didn't have a good time He didn't he didn't have a good time No, here's a one star Okay, no a same concert No different one Avondale brewing company Birmingham, Alabama Which by the way a lot of the reviews were that for that or like it was very hot and humid one star This is primus as well, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is Primus. A show for stoners, couldn't hear vocals,

took nearly 10 musics to get through one song that was originally recorded for five. Slow. Puddles Pity Party made the night for me. Super disappointed fan. The line took nearly 10 musics to get through one is so funny. What does that mean? Yeah, I'm still trying to work on that? I think it's ten minutes

Yeah That's a tough typo man. I mean I've Don't get on dog, but like musics I Here's a review of five-star he goes they were really good, but they play all the biggest hits last Happy I got to see them. So hey The hits last that's that's actually I've never heard of that before they usually top load it and then they sort of take I think they the Peter out is what you want to do Yeah, and finally

This guy gave it four stars and this is just such a this is in Portland, Oregon He goes we brought these we bought these VIP ticket upgrades and when we got to the concert and was going through the gates We asked about the VIP upgrade and the people working there had no idea what the upgrade was We paid $80 each for these tickets and didn't even use the VIP because no one knew anything about them So we had to stand with all the other people who bought their regular $40 tickets. Oh my God. Just wandering around to staff members being like, excuse me, I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be with other people.

Where you know, like, and they're like, nobody knows what you're talking about. That sounds like an absolute nightmare for a real rich entitled person. It sounds like me joking around about when I go to a hockey game or a soccer where I say, no, I bought those tickets because I don't want to sit by regular people. Oh, you're joking when you say that? As a joke. Yes. Well, I don't want to.

What is the real reason you buy the really expensive tickets? ice-cream Yeah, Brian buys the yeah, he'll sit in a box or whatever you sat in the box for like the luxury What was it called the bread financial club? Yeah, the bread financial club at the Columbus Crews Stadium. I it sucked though I got in there. They're like there's special food in here and the food was a fried bologna sandwich I couldn't fucking believe it yeah sorry dude you learned an important lesson hopefully that night about how they rip off people with money at sporting events I don't have money I think we should be refunded for the difference and then when we got there the parking lot was full and they were telling everyone

Was full at a concert Do something about it I Like sometimes you read these and obviously they're about just just about the venue it is ticketmaster Yeah, of course there they think that it's I mean the truth of it is Nobody's seeing it at all. I don't know who, like they think, like who is actually reading them other than us. But like who is like, are the bands definitely not like is the management of that? Like what is the hope when you're writing it even that the venue representative is going to, why would they do that?

I'll be reading it now. You got another person like I'm all this is my kind of scene I think people who listen to the podcast sometimes will go and read them now because yeah I don't think anybody really real I didn't realize before we started doing it that they even exist and They are some of the better reviews. What's another what's the other place that's really good review or I mean core Master has really good reviews and it's uh The when you look up a band like so I looked up the reviews of slippery when wet a tribute to Bon Jovi and it had reviews and they were so fucking good like 90% of them are like these guys better than Bon Jovi. Oh yeah. That's a huge

thing for the cover band like these guys are honestly better than Bon Jovi. They are so unfair to do that because Bon Jovi made all the fucking music It's you know, it's bon Jovi you get when you get drunk and you hear people who are like Competent musicians play like a good recreation of the song live It tricks they trick their brains I think in that moment to be like it couldn't be better than this like nobody could play it better than this It was incredible. It was per last last week. I saw like one of the toughest I Think one of the toughest gigs I've ever seen in my life

I was walking and there's like tough You don't mean it in like the current cuz tough now would mean good like to say no I'm talking about yeah, I would One of those ones. Yeah where you're like, I don't know why I do this, you know It's like I always talk about when my when I did my old podcast. We did a show in Vegas and We're selling out all over like not huge shows but like a hundred two hundred three hundred tickets most places and We get to Vegas and we're all excited. Ah, we're fucking performing in Vegas eight paid. There were eight We're fucking performing in Vegas eight paid there were eight

Paid people there and you want to know something it turned out to be the best damn show I'm into her so bad because I'm up there because we're talking And then there's these guys standing by the fucking pool table and they're having a conversation and you can hear them over us So like they're talking about wrestling in the corner. We're on stage and you're distracted by that. Brian, that was a big issue. Brian was just like, well, you left the stage and then what are you talking about? Like, Oh, he was an intercontinental champion 96 already out of three month run. What the fuck? But there was a continental is always been one of the funniest things it's

ever to continents. The fuck there was a continental is always been one of the funniest things it's ever That's fucking amazing But if you go to like Europe, it's not gonna work, you know, it's not respected You know longer the chance what are the continents have we ever said did they ever establish? I do know that it's North America and South America because it was down I think in Brazil Pat Patterson was the child I can't believe them. No, I'm Need I needed to know But I get there's a guy at this show there's people at the bar the bar didn't kick him out You know what? I mean? They couldn't what are they gonna cook kick them up?

Cuz they eat fucking random people. You know what I mean? They could. What are they going to kick him up because they eat like and random people? You know what I mean? You don't have any power to kick anybody. You have to do the show. That's the part that sucks about it is like you can't just say let's just fucking not do this. You know what I mean? You could. Could you not refund them or you would? It was like a thing with the venue or something. We could have refunded them. Of course. Yeah, that's what I was like like we made a bunch of money. I think we made $40 off the gig.

I would have refunded them and not done the show for eight people, I think. I don't know, though. It's tough to say. I've definitely done something performing, not music, that we don't talk about that much. Not improv comedy. Stand-up comedy.

This guy, always bragging about his stand-up career. But I just have done comedy shows where there's like that few people. And what was that? What was that? It's just for stand-up. Was that Brian? Wait, you have a soundboard?

Yeah. What do you want? You want Billy? You're not my natural. Oh, I love that. Have you had a guest yet that brought his own soundboard? Well, DB does. Our first ever guest and friend of the show, Mike Hale,

he does have one, but he doesn't really use it. And I was completely blindsided by that. I love that. I'm serious about that. And I love stand-up comedy. Don't get me wrong, but like stand up stand up comedy. So gross. Like the way that everyone talks about it so much.

Yeah, well, I totally agree. It's so self fucking important. I 100% agree. Pat, the way the way civilians talk about stand up is disgusting. They know what we go through. Like they know how hard it is. And I'm just joking I Free speech you're always up there standing up for free speech. You're like on the line. It is really truly awful

It's something that I like to make fun of a lot This is my favorite sound clip and then we'll get out of here. All right, this is many Gene Simmons from many kiss Shortly before he died. Yo man, they are high. Damn. What's up, girls? Yeah, I mean, I'm tired. I've been on the road for a long time. What I would love to do right now, man. He's talking to bikini ladies,

talking to bikini ladies in person. They're very scared when he's saying it. He's so sweaty and he and truly he got he was so horny there and he fucking died well he died because he was horny we don't know that but he he died like so soon we looked it up and he died before the video came out even so like rest in peace to minnie gene simmons honestly rest in peace to minnie i, I just, when you have it, you gotta use it. But that was the most, that was the biggest left turn anyone's ever taken me on and I loved it.

Minnie Jean Simmons dies, horny Minnie Jean Simmons. Yeah. Let me just say this real quick though, as far as like looking up reviews, here's the scene I've been into lately, State Fairs. So like, there's a whole scene of people reviewing State Fairs. And I saw one the other day

That was fucking great. A guy was bitching and he's like this is I think it was like he was there It was either the eerie State Fair was in Pennsylvania The waffle fries aren't as good as they used to be in the rate 50 then the funnel cake There's only two stations for funnel cake and it was awesome. It's like the parking now they get you for eight It used to be five and the ice cream was you know melted by the time I had it Like he went on this run and he didn't talk about like a family member with him Like I think this guy was just solo at the state fair fair guy, right fair guy No, there's one comment under it and I'll never forget. It's the funniest thing I've ever read that just said

Sorry, you didn't have a good time at the fair They didn't even meet those are all as the best right he's sorry you didn't sorry you didn't have a good time at the fair You didn't sorry you didn't have a good time at the fair He didn't have a good time the ice cream melted yeah Sometimes those days some of those sometimes it just everything that could go wrong does go wrong And you're just out there and you know your ice cream cone falls down And I'm fucking but bird comes and flies in and you know, into your hair and it's just one of those days. Picturing him sad. Picturing him like,

cause you're picturing him being mad all day. Oh yeah, he's like got a real hang dog look on his face. You know, he's like walking around really like. The parking, yeah, the parking set him off. It was five bucks, now it's eight. You know, like. He's like, I got a fucking crisp fiver right here, ready for the parking.

Now I'm going and I'm getting changed, cause I'm not giving him, I'm not giving him time. I'm not going to give him. I don't know the change. You know, he's like, I'm going to go get my own change. And yeah, the whole day is bad. Now he's looking for change. There's cars behind him.

He's pissed. Now he's starting to think like, oh, man, I'm causing this just because they went up eight. So now he's coming in. He's like, all right, I need some funnel cake. I'll go to the place where there always is funnel cake. It's not fair. That'll save something else. It's vegan,. That'll save you. See you know what?

Honestly, the only thing that will make me feel better after that fucking parking debacle is my sweet sweet funnel cake. And he just fucking oh he gets there and he's scratching his head looking around. It was, you know, he's looking, it was right, you know, he's talking to other people and pointing at other guys. Pointing at other guys like, you know know this is where the cake used to be nobody People acting like he's not even there they move the funnel cat. He goes to an employee like that's like 16 years old

He's like did they move the funnel cakes the funnel cakes used to be right here, and I don't know what a funnel cake No, I don't know what a photo cake no I don't know what a photo talking about sir yeah well that's so I'm gonna have to look those up you gotta if you go on ticket master on the app and look up tribute bands you will love it it is it's oh yeah I've been hunting down to this one food fighters tribute from El Paso I might go like you gotta see the Nate Medel guy. It's unbelievable. He actually has red hair Like to try to look like the food fighters is fucking hilarious Well, but they have a big issue the red not chili peppers

They have a tiny drummer unfortunately Which is really fucked up because, of course, the drummer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, is quite big. Chet Smith is large. Yeah, he's huge. And so he's like, he's very tiny. And most of the- And they're trying to shoot pictures of him

in a way that makes him look like- He's forced perspective and stuff. There's one good one where he's standing in the back and Anthony Kiedis is like, leaned down with this. He's leaned down because you can't fully show how tiny the drummer is because it's so distracting where everybody would just come to the show

and they'd be like, hey, can we meet the tiny drummer? Can we talk to him and see what his whole deal is? He's so small. Most of the bands we saw had one tiny member, honestly. I don't know about that. Yeah, the slippery when wet one, the Richie Sambora guy is so thin like in a way He just it's small

How's the tico they I they don't look bad I will say they're David Bryan with the curly hair Trying to look like them is really really good and I honestly I really think that like I could be wrong here But off base, but I think you should think that like I could be wrong here but off base but I think you should do that if you're doing that I think you should if you're gonna go out and that's my job is to play in this cover but I just realized I guess a lot of them are doing it for a living. Well they are here Pat. Curling their hair in a berm or whatever and then as we discussed before with the Hulk

Hogan look they're just going out and living their life after that people are like, why do you look so much like, you know? This is the red not this is slippery when wet I Can get this picture and I'll click the picture so you can see them because it's it's a good picture I oh, yeah, I have a text thread with a couple friends. That's just sending tribute band guys back and forth. I love that. Like if they're not going to dress up, like there's so many Tom Petty ones, me and a bunch of my buddies in Philly. We do a Tom Petty band, but we don't dress up. We just but then like the one guy will look like Patty. The

rest will just have vests on. This is such a bad ass photo. This is awesome. Bad ass photo. Here they are. And that's slippery when wet. The bond just be tripping. That's like the keep the faith. That's keep the faith era kind of.

So you got one guy that kind of, you got the one guy. And then the other guy, there's a Hugh McDonald, could be the bass player to tie it all back together. Cause Alex Van Such no longer with us, Hugh McDonald was brought in. And a lot of people say that he played on all those early sessions as well. Jo Bo didn't like Alex.

Alex Van Such was just a stage guy. That's a good question that I just asked myself is, what about if you have a tribute band and then there's like, is it totally in poor taste to go with an older member who's passed away Like could you do like hey, we're pink Floyd. I'm you know, we're doing Sid Barrett Pink Floyd and that's what we're doing Or should you should you be doing the final incarnation of the band? Well, the thing is is that like you can look like the actual band now

You know what I mean? Like you just get like foreigners like actually a tribute band. No one's in the fucking band anymore. Oh yes. Yeah. You have one guy. Yeah. They don't even have one guy. Like there's, there's not even, it is a full on tribute band. Mick Jones used to come out and do four songs. He doesn't anymore. Now I sound like Eddie trunk, but like you have, it's like, it's amazing what people buy just because of the branding. But it's true, like if you get some old band like Kansas or something like that, you get a bunch of Haggard looking fucking 68 year olds.

It's gonna be the same fucking thing. It's like nobody knows what Kansas looks like. No, absolutely. You just have to get like their permission or whatever or something if you want. And then you you could be like no, we're not a tribute band We're the actual band we just we don't have any of the members We're like the new band that we have we do have a guy Pat that we watch often He's a class week. He's we did an episode classic rock guys. It was like it's the second episode. There's this guy on

on So classic rock guys. It was like this. It's the second episode. There's this guy on on YouTube a Michael Nolan that we that we watch his videos and he is so mad at foreigner Yeah, and like he'll every he's just like it's not even a real fucking bad. Hey, and he gets mad He's mad also that Robert Plant and Jimmy Page won't do one last tour. Sure. It's like they're 80, dude He want yeah, but he wants that tour To her he's yeah, he's a classic old like rock guy. He's got all his old friends They like go on calls and just discuss old rock and roll He's so classic rock did go ahead

He's so classic rock that not all he has like classic rock things hanging up behind him and in his room But he also is like a karate guy too, which I think like mixes that mixes very well with classic Right, he's so mad. Do you get into the guess who scene at all? I don't want to you know, the guest is great because the drummer name guess who's seen it all? I don't want to, you know, the guest is great because the drummer name, the drummer has the name. So the drummer has been like trotting out this like 44. And my line is that they always try to find 44 year olds that look like they're

68. You know what I mean? So it's like, they like the young guy, but like the young looking old guy. That's sweet because then he can go for longer, but he also looks the part. That's smart. He can hit the notes, yeah. But it is also kind of believable that maybe was in the band. Yeah.

But the guest who kind of doesn't do anything like that, it's just the drummer and then a bunch of like, kind of like 45 year olds, whatever. But Burton Cummings, the guy who wrote all the songs and the main guy, you should know this Canadian. Of course. He went so far as to trying to shut them down that he actually removed the ASCAP and royalties

from those songs so that they cannot be played in any, like, because even if you have a jukebox, you have to pay to a certain thing so songs can be played. He is no longer capable, those songs can't make anybody any money. So they are no longer allowed to play American woman. They could play like their songs from 1995. Yeah, play these eyes. They can't play. It's a really shut them down and he can't make any money on them anymore. He obviously felt like, hey, I have enough money. You know, I'm okay. In the end of my life, I don't need any more money.

And it's worth it to cost myself the money. So these Fox stop going around playing all the fantastic songs I wrote. Yeah, they can't play lying, but like their fans could go and hear them play their new songs. Like if it was only if like if poison could only play songs off of what's the poison 1993 terrible native is is a native something well, they're all terrible, but I mean like if boys only play native tongue Yeah, imagine you go there, and you don't know like I wonder what they have to say that or it's like a pretty well-known thing But imagine you go to the show and you have no idea and you're like I guess they're saving them all up You're like sitting there like a kid is they're gonna put them all in the encore. That's interesting Version I've always like I wish you know, I have all these ideas

Of course if you're a billionaire But like I've always wanted to like produce a movie or go to see movies like starring Tom Cruise and then Cruz just dies In the first yeah, and then you've got no buddies and just see how long people hang in like in the theater You know what I mean? I do I do want to say I did learn something from your channel Pat and it was fascinating I tell everybody now that two of the guys in journey were doing were touring together and suing each other at the same time Like they were standing on stage performing together and suing each other While the lawsuit's happening.

Yeah. It was live. Yeah, it happens all the time, but live. The band Live, they went through a huge thing. Oh yeah, very, very well versed in that. Ed, watch it. So just to go into podcast world, I did a podcast for about a year or so,

and then I was contractually obligated to do three more episodes of it, so I didn't want to do it anymore, though. So all I did was just turn it into the saga of live. So I was just researching live, so the last three things I did was all about the fact that there was two chats in live, which has always been one of my favorite things.

And then first they lost one of the chats, and then they lost both chats, and now it's a chatless live, and then they gave all their money to this it's a Chadless Live and then they gave all their money to this Fibra Octave, the Fibra Octave guy. Yeah, that's the really weird shit. Oh yeah, it's wild. And I actually interviewed Andy Green who did the story in Rolling Stone and he said that he had threats

from the guy from jail so he's like, I can't really talk about this guy. Wow. It was fucking amazing. Lightning crashes. And I love that Ed is's like, I can't really talk about this guy. Wow. It was fucking amazing. It was like, name crashes. And I love that Ed is just like, I don't need any of this fucking shit. Like the read I got from reading that article was Ed was like,

I don't need this shit. I just won't do it. Like he is lying. Just put me on a cruise and I'll sing I Alone. You know what I mean? This is what people are fighting about, I Alone. You know what I mean? This is what people are fighting about, I Alone. You know what I mean? They just trot out these five songs.

That's all bands are when you realize, it's just like when a booking agent hires somebody or a promoter hires somebody, they're not getting live. They're like, okay, we're getting I Alone, Lightning Crashes, all over you, and people wanna hear those songs. So we're booking those five songs.

You know what I mean? And that's all they do is just go around fighting over who plays the five songs cumbersome and water's edge is all 73 have they left to their hiring cumbersome. You're being very nice by including water's edge I actually I have like a affinity for that song I actually I have like a finity for that song By seem like one hit from Candlebox that they have far behind I have like an affinity for that song I love it. I don't know why and then they have the song you You know they say fuck and they would play fun. Yeah

Yeah, you win a lot for you you you I did if I ever do bring back I wish I had this sound clip right now You could take this idea if you want I've wanted to if I ever bring the podcast back I want to I want to end it with the far behind note every episode just ends with let me fire Just him doing his axle, I think that guy's name is Kevin Just him doing his axle. I think that guy's name is Kevin Well believe it is Pat I appreciate you coming on the show It's been a blast so cool to have you on I'm a huge you guys are fucking funny I'm gonna be listening to the show from now on sorry. I mean you know this is fucking great

I love you don't have to it's nice to there's no real, you know prep required for the show truly We've almost prefer it when people don't prep for it. I Fucking last night. I couldn't fall asleep. I was listening to Alaska how Alaska came to be you know Like Russia like I'm watching shipping Stuff I'm not watching anything about like and then I'll watch stuff about like, obviously I watched like a Loverboy concert from Red Rocks last year. I'm doing a video on that right now.

But I mean, I do a lot of like engineering stuff in my free time. Yeah, I watch a lot of police body cam footage nowadays. Oh, that's beautiful. So Pat, I wanna tell you that one of the, one last thing about bassistsist one of the most common things I've seen this is a question that's asked all the time. Yeah ever been and justice for all in the mix Like that because I know that the bass player got complete Jason Newstack got completely cut out of that album like yeah

They acted like it wasn't their band. Yeah, they punished their own sound. Well, Cliff, when Cliff died, they had to bring in a new bass player, but they hated him because he wasn't Cliff. So they blamed Jason Newstead basically for killing their old bass player. And then to make him, you know, to really

to beat them down even more. They took them down in the mix so they couldn't hear bass. So there's just like no bass on that album. And people hate like people like the album, obviously, but they're like, this would be so much better with bass, even to the point where bass players on YouTube will play the bass for Yeah, that's because that is that's a wild self-sabotage thing to do that's you know to just be like yeah We're to fuck this guy over. We're going to make our yeah our song sound worse Yeah, it would be like someone on your basketball team dies tragically.

And then you bring in a new player that brings them in. And the coach puts a fucking blindfold on him. You know what I mean? All right, go out there. And you get number 17. And he's like, I can't. I don't know who number 17 is. I have a fucking blindfold on.

What does he smell like? What does 17 smell like? And they'll give it a shot. That's why Robert Trujillo getting a million dollars to sign with him in Some Kind of monster is incredible because they were like well You know now we're nice to our bass player after new steadily The best scene in that movie Period there's a lot of what I know it's great

But the one where Lars and James I think it's Lars and James are large and Kirk go to see Jason Newstead's new band and It feels so uncomfortable while they're there and they're they're like, yeah This is a this is really something he's in the and they're in the club So they're also just like, you know I don't like the seniors that are coming in to watch like a freshman basketball game or something It's so good Pat basketball game or something So good pat

Tell everybody where to find you the internet this path vanity bullshit. What makes this song stink the first video I saw of yours was fuel Observations video where you zeroed in on the drummer. Yes of fuel threat. He looked like he's gonna die Bar that was awesome. Thank you for doing this again pat. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me guys