Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 128 - Metallica Guys With Tom Scharpling
Episode Date: July 15, 2025Hooooly Shit. We had the great Tom Scharpling on the show to talk about a type of guy that we have been sort of obsessed with lately, Metallica Guys!! What would you say to the boys if you met them? H...ow abou those tasty cigars embued with the spirit of Metallica? Also, Tom gives Chris and I the business and tries to get us to stop making fun of each other but we never will There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashow and I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201
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Now, I was going to welcome to guys a podcast about guys.
I was going to open and sing like Metallica at the beginning of the show, but I'm too embarrassed to do it this week. We got a guest that I really like so hi Chris. How are you?
I'm doing well
I listened to st.
Anger the song st. Anger to try to remind myself of like how stupid it was and now it's like
Yeah, now it's stuck in my head like seriously this.
I'm running an angle with you. You know, I can't get it out of my head, really.
And our guest this week, Tom Sharpling from the best show.
Hi, Tom. Hi.
How are you? We're great.
We've been singularly focused since we had Pat Finnerty on a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, I heard my.
We've been singularly focused on Metallica since then.
I just, it's, they're the only, they're the only thing I think about, you know?
I mean, sometimes we, I mean, and we do, we did sort of touch on disturbed a little bit, David
Draymond, we've been sort of in his, we've been, you know, dealing with his shit a little bit. He's kind of he's a linguist
David Draymond he's got him and Metallica together really would be something I think
Draymond has a as he said he has quite a large vernacular
So he sounds like a smart stoop. He's a stupid guy that thinks he's really smart So So we like him, but Metallica is really, I just saw him recently.
So where were they?
So I went to a festival called Sonic temple in Ohio,
Columbus, Ohio. And, uh,
my brother had wanted to see Metallica really bad. I didn't personally care.
I wanted to see corn. That's why I went to it.
Sure. I know that personally care. I wanted to see corn. That's why I went to it. Sure. I know that
well established
So it's all corn the first night and then the second night we went to see Metallica and I was like blown away by
How bad it was and my brother was kind of blown away by how bad it was. It was mind-blowing
They took breaks. They took like a ton of breaks and it was really not.
Yeah, we found, we found a video from like, I found a video on Instagram where it showed
what he does. He goes and drinks coffee in between, in between songs, James Hetfield,
he just takes a break and he sits on a stoop and he drinks coffee for a few minutes.
That seems like if you got to do that every, every four songs, you could
consider giving it up, But I don't really
know what his situation is or what motivates him or whatever, but he seems, Brian sent
me a photo today, he seems very old. He seems to look older than he even is really.
Yeah. I guess if you're at the point where you're drinking coffee during Like you can't pound the coffee before that like it doesn't work that way. It's just like
The caffeine is gonna kick in later if you're drinking it during the show. That's like
Like drink it before there's plenty of things you can do to
Get a little pep in your step that aren't cocaine
Yeah, I was gonna suggest cocaine.
That was my suggestion when you were in there.
But you get kinda old, and then I think you gotta
get off the cocaine, I think, even if you're a rock star.
I think you hit a certain age where.
You know, I end up like Ted Demme,
like the director who just had a heart attack
while playing basketball.
Yeah.
Because I think, you know, and I'm not saying he died of coke, but I just know it's just
like you just drop when you're.
Oh yeah.
Five on your age.
And you're and you're you want to who you want to stay hooping.
I want to continue to hoop personally well into my 50s and 60s.
And I feel like yeah, it's like if it comes down to cocaine or hoops.
Yeah, I'm picking cocaine.
I know you are, Brian.
I understand that.
You're not like a big sports guy.
So but yeah, I think I'm going to a lot of sports.
You do.
Well, he does it all the time.
Go to baseball game tomorrow.
He doesn't ever know what's going on in the game ever
He had accidentally cheer for the
What do you go for the
mascot races and
Oh, it's worse than that even Tommy goes on the scoreboard. It's worse. He goes for the
Scream in a in a baseball helmet. That's the only reason he goes is for soft serve ice cream in a baseball helmet.
That's the only reason he goes is for soft serve ice cream
in a baseball helmet.
I got news for you.
You can replicate that outside of a baseball stadium.
Yeah.
You can actually.
Sure you can, just buy one of those helmets.
You have a bunch of them.
You have them from the game.
I don't have the ice cream.
You already have them.
You already have the helmets.
I throw them away.
Just go to a Dairy Queen and say,
hey, fill this up with soft serve.
You'll be fine.
They will accommodate you.
The best thing to happen to me.
They don't care.
You're, suddenly the rules are so, so concrete.
Well, you can't get soft serve outside of baseball stadium, of course.
There's no such thing as that.
I went to a crew soccer game recently and they give you nachos and a helmet.
So I ordered that obviously.
I kind of like just eating out helmets.
Yeah.
It's becoming pretty clear.
You are a really like helmets make you hungry probably.
Like you see a helmet and you start to start salivating.
It's like Pavlov.
It was a great game.
Helmets, not bells.
I mean, it was a lot, lot of action on the field that match against it was a Columbus
crew versus Whitecaps is the team where I'm from Vancouver and really great game between two great teams
This guy had no fucking idea barely watched a minute of it. And so yeah, he went to say he goes to sports
He doesn't read financial club most of the time. Hey, what do you stay was in the bread financial club?
Which smelled it smelled bad
So anyway, so are you filling a helmet with?
Poutine up there. What are you doing?
Wait, I won't go to a game up there if they don't they listen we have soft sir
We have all that I don't I don't even know Tom I go there I get myself a water
I get myself maybe a snack and I watch the game. I pay attention to the game. It's really a secondary
You're doing this wrong.
No, no, no.
In the middle would be somebody doing it right.
In the, like, both of you are,
both of you are examples on how not to do this
and for differing reasons.
And if you could split the difference,
that would be how you should act at a sporting event.
You're raw dogging it over there.
Maybe a glass of water and you're just staring at the field.
Like a lunatic.
200 milligrams of mushrooms before and I get really focused.
Sure, well now we're going even further away from it.
Yeah, thank you.
You're making my point more.
So many good food items at these places.
So you're going, you're seeing,
you're seeing just like the,
you're staring and then suddenly the green on the field
gets really vibrant and you're just like, oh, here we go.
No, I mean, I'm not.
He stands, listen, Tommy stands close to the soccer players
and he's like, hey, good job there, buddy. Hey, good job. I don't like, he's always, he stands close to the soccer players and he's like, Hey, good job there, buddy.
Hey, good.
I don't like to them.
I have season tickets.
I have season tickets, right?
Like on, you can get this, this special, the landing it's called and I'm right on the field.
Like, uh, yeah, right behind the benches, but I don't talk to them.
I just, not after this appearance, you talked about about you're showing up on mushrooms.
No, I already.
Sure, they already know.
They know about they know about it because I do actually know about it.
Tweeted in about because I made an incredible.
I don't want to say it again.
It really feels like I'm bragging.
No, because I've mentioned this before, but I made a one.
But he's taking this is bragging. Don't worry.
I mean, what? I mean, this is not bragging. Don't worry. I mean, what?
Bragging I mean a one-handed catch at the game and then I tweeted about it and it was a
Yeah, like about how I took mushrooms and made this great catch and so you're like doc
Doc Ellis
Pitching a no hitter on LSD
We have a so I the first Metallica thing I wanted to do I'm sharing a video right now
I wanted to talk a little bit about some of the products that they have so I'm just gonna hit play on this video We'll hear it. It'll be great on us couldn't make it
But I'm gonna kick it to a quick video from a friend of ours that just wanted to say hello real quick
So I James are you out there? Do we have a do we have James on the line? Hang on one second. I think that he's I think that he's patched.
Very nice. Finally, Andrew estate. They have a brand of cigars which are imbued with the
spirit of Metallica because they're dipped in the blackened whiskey, which is imbued with the spirit of Metallica,
because when the whiskey's in the barrel,
they play Metallica songs to it.
That's really far removed the cigar,
I feel like, from having any,
it's like has barely any remnant,
like a little bit of fought, like tiny bit of Metallica,
but it's like, it's filtering through so much
before it gets to the cigar.
Like the whiskey, absolutely absolutely you're playing the music
Directly for the whiskey that's gonna be fully Metallica, you know infused. I agree
I did see a guy say that the noise of Metallica makes the proof higher because it pushes
The whiskey in towards the middle of the barrel. I saw that
the whiskey in towards the middle of the barrel.
I saw that. I've this is just fantasy.
You're talking about.
Well, this is a real thing.
We're not making this up.
Metallica really has a brand of whiskey that they believe that.
Yeah, that's not fancy.
That's the idea that you're like, it's like putting like playing Mozart
up against a pregnant stomach.
Yeah, it's it's it's pretty. Mozart up against a pregnant stomach.
Yeah, it's pretty... Tom, are you a whiskey drinker?
Do you drink whiskey?
I don't like whiskey.
Brown alcohol is not my thing.
Oh, okay.
I was going to talk to you for five to 10 minutes about my favorite brand, Papi Van
Winkle, but we don't have to, I guess.
No, let's talk about bourbon.
No, no, we've please don't
We're already a bunch of time or interesting than when?
whiskey drinkers or
pot-smokers get really
Granular about me. I mean they're interested in it. Do you are do you understand the concept of something being buttery?
They say butter. That's a whiskey, though.
There's a whiskey that's very buttery.
I've read the thing is, though, when they call things buttery or like,
oh, this is chocolate or buttery.
It's just like, then you try it.
It's like, no, it's not.
I agree. I think it's actually chocolatey chocolate.
Yeah, I buy coffee all the time where they're like, no, it's not. I agree. I think it's actually chocolatey chocolate. Yeah.
I buy coffee all the time where they're like, it's got notes of all this stuff you like. And I drink it. I was like, it's fucking the reason they say it has notes in it because that means it doesn't have it in it.
But it only it's like, you need to be the highest. You need to be so finally attuned to the thing.
Look, I'm sure it's in there. I'm just not that I don't have that kind of palette to where I can appreciate
The notes of like like oh this has the notes of oak in here. It's like okay
Well, okay, I don't really eat a tree
I think I think the only time I can really feel if something has no like there's this whiskey I drink
Metallica whiskey and I can tell because it clearly has the notes of
interstellar songs and her Sandman things like that infused into the whiskey
this is from the forum the Metallica forum it goes one of the biggest names
in heavy metal is now in the cigar business Metallica guitarist and vocalist
James Hetfield has partnered
with cigar maker, Jonathan Drew and blackened distiller Rob Dietrich on a new cigar brand
called blackened cigars. M 81 by Drew estate, the Almodoro handmade cigars will come in
four sizes and they will begin shipping to retailers in December. The cigars are scheduled
to be handed out on both nights of cigar aficionados. Big smoke, Las Vegas.
Oh God.
At one point these guys were hungry and rehearsing in a closet and just going for
it and now they're just like, let's make cigars.
You know what we like cigar. So the first comment was never smoked a cigar before, but I suddenly want to try it. So that's the dumbest.
You think that Tom, do you think that's a really dumb way to think maybe
James Hetfield is encouraging you to smoke. Yeah.
that James Hetfield is encouraging you to smoke.
Yeah.
The only thing it makes me want is like for Metallica to have like some sort of like, it's like, there could be like a whole thing where it's just like we go
and we get, uh, we get vasectomies.
Like, like if Metallica starts sponsoring a vasectomy and then all these
Metallica fans get vasectomies.
Yeah.
And then it just lessens the population of Metallica fans get vasectomies.
And then it just lessens the population of Metallica fans.
Well, this guy says, you don't need to try it.
I'm sober now and I'm still gonna collect blackened whiskey.
I don't smoke, but I'll buy a box to look at.
To look at it.
Well, James Hetfield is, it doesn't drink.
He smokes though. But he doesn't drink. He smokes though. He loves it.
But he doesn't drink at all and he still loves the whiskey.
So it's like, yeah, you don't have to necessarily drink alcohol to appreciate this whiskey.
You just have to like Metallica.
You know what else he loves about that whiskey is the money he gets.
Yeah, but he-
It's a profit thing for him.
But he does like the smell of it too.
I don't know if you heard him talking about it.
I don't know if you heard him talking about it I don't know
I mean, I guess you could say he's that profit is is you know, but you hear him talking about he seems to really love
This whiskey, you know, let's say if he'll do it for free
How much he how much he enjoys talking about it and it is funny to hear him
I mean when you hear him talking about it and then you sort of realize that
funny to hear him. I mean, when you hear him talking about it, and then you sort of realize
that, yeah, you realize afterwards that he couldn't have ever drank it. So how would he know all of that or think any of this stuff? But I don't think people, yeah, I don't think the fans
really care. Again, it's just these fans of Metallica that are like, I will get anything that has
Metallica on it.
Yeah.
This guy goes, I think it's very cool for James.
He's a cigar guy and he can actively partake
in the blackened cigars.
So they know he can't drink the whiskey.
They're kind of like, hey, he's really bummed out
that the whiskey that he's like,
that's one of his big things in life.
He's like, I don't get to drink the whiskey.
I know I can smell how delicious it is,
but I'm not able to.
Can you make me a product that we can sell?
Sure, hey, we'll make a little money, but can we make a product that I can fucking enjoy?
You know, and they're like, we got you James.
This guy goes, always wanted to try a cigar.
I guess now I have the perfect opportunity.
Always wanted to try a cigar.
What exactly stopped you before?
If only I could get my hands on one of those cigars.
That might be a kid.
Is that a child?
That could be a child.
That's not a child.
That could be, I mean, I guess, but.
Waiting for the opportunity.
Well, maybe you want to check out the store on every corner of every city that yeah, cigars. Yeah.
None of them have any Metallica in them at all.
This guy goes since enter night and black and whiskey,
enter nights of beer that they sold. Oh, I did. So that's thank you.
But I didn't actually didn't know that they also had a beer that they sold.
Yeah, they have a beer.
This guy goes, I've often thought how cool it would be
if they made something like a battery energy drink.
I'm straight edge myself, so I can't really partake
in any alcoholic beverage.
I do have internet in black and but never tasted any,
but I'm an avid consumer of energy drinks
and will be all over that shit.
So an avid consumer of energy drinks.
I mean, is that, are you addicted to energy drinks?
Is that the word that you would that you would use for that?
Consumer yeah, that's active consumer
Yeah, energy drinks because energy drinks aren't I think are I don't know a lot
I'm not but I think they're good in moderation only
I don't think it's something you're supposed to be drinking regularly as part of your diet.
Six to eight a day and if Metallica made one,
I could get up to 10 to 15.
My thought.
Yeah, and then you can look and see James
Hetfield drinking one of his energy drinks
on the side of the.
Oh yeah.
Maybe that's what he needs is if this,
look this is the angle.
He comes out, he says, look folks,
I would do these shows, I would have to drink coffee
every four songs, but now that we've got this energy drink,
I'm on stage the whole night,
I don't have to leave the stage once.
I just drink this and I'm good to go all night.
It's almost like he's setting the table
for this product endorsement.
It does what coffee can't do. He's, he's, he's,
that was his own cameraman who took that viral video of him backstage drinking
coffee. Yeah. He's just setting the stage.
I think for the past couple of years has been setting the stage for this.
And then that would be, I mean, do they,
they would do the rock in Eagle rock, Cal mean, do they, they would do an Eagle rock in Eagle rock California, Los Angeles,
surge from system of a down owns a coffee shop.
Oh, I should go there.
You, yeah, you should.
And a friend of mine, if you go in it, there's,
you can buy signed system of down albums and things.
The coffee was actually, I went there once it was very good.
And a friend of mine goes there like every day and finally surge came in.
He was so excited.
My friend Alex score Dallas.
He was like, it's like a surge finally saw him.
He came in.
He was very nice.
So surge has the thing figured out
in terms of the coffee side of things.
Has a perfect name for an energy drink too.
He does, Serge has.
Serge has, it just spelled like his name, you know?
But it's like, it looks, yeah, that's, fuck, that's good.
Well, on the Metallica forum, which by the way,
if you search Metallica forum, which by the way, if you search Metallica forum
It comes up to a page that's actually in their store where you can buy something
So I was like that's a very Metallica thing to have
What a better way like there are these there's certain people where they're like
We are popular now and we have these dedicated fans and it's people are like, well, we're going to just respect them.
And then there's other people like, well, we're popular now. We have these dedicated fans.
Let's shake them down for every nickel we can get from them.
They will spend, they will buy anything we put out.
So let's, let's put that to the test and just make as many things as we can.
It's just it's a really kind of let's get them taking a loan.
Let's get them taking out loans. People sure they can't afford anything else,
but oh, well there's a ticket master review a little later on where maybe
somebody is going to suggest. I mean, it's the kiss model.
I think is kiss the first Band that is off is so shitty
Everybody knows kisses stuff is so shitty. I don't know. It's not a
They're like Metallica's like trying to be a lifestyle brand like an upper class. Yeah, you're right
It is a little bit different maybe but they're both trying to just you know
Yeah, like shake down their fans for as much money as possible, anybody who likes them. So I feel like Kiss was the
first like they're, they're, they're obviously famous. They have like some of the crazy,
like the most ridiculous, they've sort of ran with it as a, as a joke. Like they're
like, yeah, yeah, look at that marketing anything with their logo on it. Yeah, just selling
all kinds of ridiculous shit and it's almost become a joke now.
Yeah, like junk.
The Beatles did that in like 1964.
There was like Beatles combs and Beatles this and be like the garbage, just pure garbage
that was being made that said the Beatles on it.
So the Beatles did it before Kiss even?
You're saying this is just a-
They had little puppets and all these, they had so much garbage that they made that said
the Beatles on it.
And so they kind of like Elvis and the Beatles kind of started that level of exploiting teenagers,
but these are now exploiting adults.
50 year olds.
Yeah, that is the difference. This guy asks on the Metallica forum, if you were to meet Metallica, what would you say?
So let's say you were lucky enough to one day meet Metallica.
Yeah, my dream.
What will be some of the things you'd like to say to them?
And for those of you lucky enough to have met any of the members of Metallica, what
did you say?
I'm sure in the meet and greets, you don't have much time to talk to them. I guess the one thing I'd want to tell them is thanks
for staying together and continuing the Metallica legacy for all of us to enjoy.
I would just like to say, yeah, the most generic compliment that I could think of to them that
they've heard a thousand times. And just the idea of, um, like, why don't we reinforce the unhealthy
dynamic of this thing even a little further that I'm going to thank you for
giving me a chance to spend money on you as at every turn, thank you for providing that opportunity for me.
Well, you're welcome.
I'm glad we could.
Are you out like that?
Lars, like, hey, no problem, man.
Yeah, this guy goes kind of wish I'd had kids 10 years ago,
so they'd be old enough to see a Metallica show before you guys hang it up,
unless you want to play into your mid 60s, of course.
Well, spoiler.. Well spoiler.
Yeah, spoiler.
Yeah, we do that anywhere.
They want to run this thing into the ground.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, members are going to have yes, members will die.
Like I think Lars if Lars died tomorrow, there would still be
a Metallica tour next year.
They would just, they would re he's really replaceable.
Anyway, I will hear.
Let's put a percentage on the certainty of each member of the band continuing.
If a, if a member, and we're not rooting for anybody to pass away, but just like,
so not even Lars, we're not even rooting for large. He, percent they continue 100% 100 Kirk I'm gonna say 95% chance they
continue he's not an original but they like it but he's also he's the most
likable but that's he's to us that's true to us we see him as the most human
normal likable member.
Yeah, the other hardcore fans probably think he's like a cuck.
Yeah, they probably hate him.
They really hate Jason Neustad, who the big Metallica fan guys hate as guts.
Lars, I'm going to say 75% chance they continue.
Well, he might have some contractual thing that he's fucking snaked in there
where they're not able to after he dies.
Like, I feel like he could pull some shit like that for sure.
Yeah, I would say James is like a like 5%.
I think James is the only person on that stage that's kind of irreplaceable in a way.
They would replace them if they would replace them.
Yeah, they get somebody from like, I don't know these bands, Avenged Sevenfold.
Yeah, that sounds like the name of a band that would have somebody in it that would
replace him.
I feel like cherry or something.
The reason that Todd, like the fact that they have, uh, Lars still there is again,
what, what says to me that they would continue.
Cause if James died, Lars would be figuring it out very quickly, how he could
continue to make money from Metallica.
I mean, if Van Halen can replace David Lee Roth, who was identified as the main guy
in Van Halen, as far as like the general population was, it was aware, like casual
people thought of him and then we kicked him in no problem.
They kept going.
Pantera is back out on tour now and there. That's only two
of the guys and it's one of them is the bass player Rex. It's like, no, nobody cared about
this guy goes. I would say fellas, this is a very common Metallica guy thing. I'm going to
tell you guys are fellas. How about forgetting the lyrics and music to nothing else matters for
all the Texas tour dates?
They do not like that song at all.
Like the fans don't they hate it.
Yeah.
All of them.
They think they've heard it too many times.
I was reading a thread about a covers album that Metallica put out, which was
ridiculous.
It was not that they made people covering them.
So, and like country artists and things like that. It was not that they made people covering them.
So like country artists and things like that? A few of those and like they were like Miley Cyrus
did Nothing Else Matters, but like four bands
did Nothing Else Matters.
And then four bands did like it was like an absurd
amount of bands playing covers of the same song.
I've never seen anything like it. Why didn't they court the couldn't they have coordinated that if they're making an album
And I talked to them before I hadn't been the way you do this song and then you do this song
People just weren't willing to they're like no, I won't I'll only do nothing else dug in their heels
I can look it up. It was really a strange like I cause I'm a big fan of a or was a big.
Well, I guess I would say I'm still a big fan of the Nativity and black albums. They
were black Sabbath albums with other metal guys doing like versions of the songs. Sepultura has a great symptom of the universe and type of negative
app, of course, has a great black Sabbath.
But like I love those, but they were just all bands picking one
song.
I've never seen one where like four bands cover one song.
Like I would never listen.
I can't even imagine.
First of all, I can't imagine listening to any of this stuff.
I actually did see like the box sets they're releasing.
So they just released a load box set.
That's unique.
And it has, it's like the most over the top box imaginable.
1800 minutes of Metallica is what they sell it as.
And look, I don't like Metallica.
I don't own any Metallica records.
The last Metallica record I had, I had was the garage days.
The first thing like that.
I never got anything.
Um, I have a weird little completist glitch in my head where I see a box at that
big and I'm just like, Hmm, I wonder if I could listen to everything on that.
I don't have, I don't know what the original load album sounds like in
turn top to bottom. I don't, I know songs from it,
but I don't know what the whole thing sounds like.
But now I'm ready to consider this enormous box set and be just like,
yeah, then I would hear the whole thing. That's, I, I, but I won't,
I won't do it. That's the other, how many, how many,
how many minutes did you say it was?
1800 minutes of Metallica, but it's like five of the same song.
You know what I mean? Like it's like, it's not, it's like, Oh,
this is the version of until it sleeps that we did on this day.
And this is another version. It's like five demos of the same song. Like,
I can't in my mind picture somebody,
cause I don't listen to any remasters
and I don't understand remasters at all.
I don't hear anything.
Well, yeah, but you don't understand any of that stuff.
You've got, yeah, you've got,
he doesn't even have any sort of,
but Ryan doesn't even have any like things on his like stones
on his cables and stuff like that.
And you know, I'm not an audiophile and I also just I've listened to a hundred
remastered albums of albums that I had when I was a kid.
And they all sound exactly the same to me.
I never can hear it.
But Tom, I'm listening to like corn and stuff like that.
So that might be the problem.
This cover album had six versions of Enter Sandman on it.
Mack DeMarco, Ghost, Juanes, Rina Sayama,
and Weezer did Enter Sandman.
It had one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven versions of Sad But True.
And then, yeah, it's just, it's so long. I think it's a hundred songs.
It's crazy. There's things. Yeah. There's no reason for that to exist. This guy goes,
when I met them, I introduced myself and shook their hand and said, my name, keep in mind,
we're strangers to them. And this seemed like the polite thing to do. A lot of people said
you guys rock, please find something else to to say as this is the phrase they hear most and rings hollow.
I met Lars Kirk and Rob at a meet and greet
and I met James at a Raiders game in 2006.
Oh God.
Oh.
All are very down to earth guys.
Just be yourself and you'll be fine.
Lars is a very down to earth guy.
I just.
He seems down to earth. I totally know. First thing I would say about him if I down to earth guy. I just don't know.
First thing I would say about it, if I had to describe him, well, he's down to earth.
Of course, one of the weirdest men in the music.
Like I've been, I've been trying to figure this out.
Like who is the funniest band?
Like that Metallica and disturbed are the two that get me, Buck Cherry also, but like-
You mean funny like laughing at not with.
Yeah. Yeah, just weird.
Yeah, obviously the funniest band that we're laughing with
is Bloodhound Gang.
We all know that they're known as the funniest.
Well of course, who hasn't thrilled to Jimmy Pop
and his fun word play.
But yeah, I think Metallica is the funniest one because you can find videos of James Hepfield
like selling cigars.
That's a fucking crazy thing to just have.
Them talking about the whiskey is crazy.
They're talking about that.
That guy who we saw on screen at the beginning with the big mutton chop sideburns or whatever
He's like the whiskey guy who makes whiskey with them and there's these videos of them talking really serious of seriously about it
But also I think what makes them funny is that the famous documentary or whatever where you got to the everybody?
Sort of got to see how they acted as a band and it was really embarrassing
I feel like the way that they were acting a lot
of the time. This one is very strange. This guy goes, when I did, I talked to Kirk about collecting
comics and movie memorabilia, how I love the old classics and how I was at the show with one of
his wife's best friends. I talked to Rob about surfing and he was pretty wasted. So he barely
talked. Lars, I was going to talk to about drumming and movies, but so he barely talked. Lars I was going to talk
to about drumming and movies but he never shut up so I couldn't get a word in. Lars
not even like not letting the fan even talk because he's telling the fan about a bunch
of bullshit. Yeah this I don't know what type but I mean this guy had sounds like he's like
trying to say like I was at a party like he's trying to say he has a familiarity
with them, you know, like he's like, Oh, this one, I talked about this. And yeah, so this
guy's kind of I like when people show up to a forum like this, and they kind of try to
be like, Yeah, I'm kind of a deal. I'm a big deal kind of a guy around here. I actually
kind of know these guys that you all adore
He does say James was the most down-to-earth guy of them all he looked me right in the eye
I shook my hand and asked how I was I talked to him about his car collection if he had it
Down to earth you have to be though to look the shakes on these and and say how are you?
How are you know the bar is so low on these interactions that if somebody treats someone like a
human, they are so weirdly impressed by that.
Yeah. It's just like the, how he looked at me and he said, how are you doing?
Oh my God. He's the nicest guy ever. It's all to the salt of the earth.
I mean, get get away from me, you
you loser, like you say that this guy could have hit me.
He obviously could hit me easily.
I couldn't do anything about it.
Meanwhile, and said he shook my hand.
He said, how are you doing?
He didn't slap me once.
And so then we talked about his cars.
Yeah, I talked about a bunch of shit that I read about him on the internet.
I feel like down to earth is the go-to thing to say when you meet a celebrity.
It's not even considered how outrageous it is to say about really any celebrity.
None of them are really down to earth at all.
They're the least down to earth people in the world.
And yeah, but that's the sort of thing to say,
to say, hey, this guy, no, he's very nice,
very down to earth.
This guy goes, I've written about this on here before.
I met James on the street in Chicago in 09
and I was so surprised it was him.
The only thing I said was, hey James, how you doing?
He said, doing good, man, and kept walking.
That was good enough for me.
That's just a normal interaction. That's just a norm. That's a normal interaction
That's I mean, that's I feel like hey, you notice it was him. Hey, you know, and then hey, how's it going?
I feel like that's not offensive to anybody and that's probably yeah, there's very few people on this forum
They would act that way if they met James not a story you should tell twice. Oh, yeah
Why are you telling that one? Yeah?
I've already I've already told I've already told this yarn once,
but strap in guys.
So short piece of yarn.
How you doing?
Good man.
I like this guy a lot.
This is a kind of guy that you read when you do these like when we did the tool episodes.
There were a couple of these guys too, very more than likely nothing at all.
Maybe a knowing we both know who I know who you are.
We both know I dig what you do not of the head and that's the most I'd ever imagine as much as I enjoy their work.
They've been told how much people like their music and how great they
are every day since about 1983. They appreciate us appreciate
us enjoying what they do, but gushing over them makes them
uncomfortable. And there isn't a single thing I could say to them
that wouldn't that they wouldn't have heard 15 times earlier that
same day. But I guess I would hurt it wouldn't hurt politely
asked for fixer live just once.
So I, I liked that because it's a guy that's like, you know, you can't,
they're people they're down to earth guys, you know, you don't have to talk to them.
What are you going to say to them that they haven't already heard?
But this is where you get in trouble too.
I got in trouble like this.
When I met Patty Smith in an elevator.
I tried to get clever and say something that she hadn't heard before.
And I ended up creating the weirdest moment.
Possible.
Do you want to remind people?
What did you say?
Why don't I just remind them of it?
I asked her how are the shows going?
Cause she was playing at the instance at San Francisco.
How are the shows going?
She said, oh, they're good.
They're long, you know, I'm tired, but they're great.
And I said, so have you, did you ever see a humble pie back in the day?
The band humble pie.
Cause I just talked to a cab driver and this was in, this was in San
Francisco, I was, I had been in Memphis a few weeks earlier and a cab driver talked about
humble pie and how much he loved them.
And then I like live, he said that you really were, wouldn't believe how great
they were alive.
So I asked Patty Smith that and she just looked at me terrified and then got off,
I think on a floor that wasn't her floor just to get off the elevator.
that wasn't her floor just to get off the elevator. And when I got off the elevator, I told John Worster was there and my comedy partner and best friend and all that stuff.
And I told him what happened. He was just like, oh, you can't ever tell anybody that.
Like that should die right here with the two of us.
And I was like, I'm going to tell people about this one.
But it's a trap to think to try to outsmart yourself and say something to somebody who you
know, and they don't know you. If you're a fan of somebody, just go, hey, thanks for every thanks
for all the stuff. I can't tell you how much it means to me. And then they'll go, oh, thanks so much.
I really appreciate it.
Don't overthink it.
A lot of these guys, when they become super fans,
they overthink it tremendously, I feel like.
And yeah, you just want to go in and be genuine.
Or if you do have a question that's
a little left of center about them though,
go like, Hey, when you did this album, uh, you know, what happened with the bubble?
Like whatever.
And just like, and they could go, Oh, well, you know, we were working on, we were,
you know, what, then they get the answer.
Oh, cool.
Well, it's my favorite.
Thanks so much.
Uh, and then you walk away.
I did the, I've told this on like bonus stuff before, but like when I was
a teenager, I met Fred Durst. Now I was very excited about this, but I didn't ask him anything
about Lamp Bizkit. I said, can I have your autograph? And then I said, Hey, have you
heard the new deftones album? Cause it hadn't been released yet. And he was like, yeah,
I have it in. I have it in the bus. Let me go grab it and I'll play it for you guys.
And he went to bus and he never came out.
He didn't have the album, Tom.
He just thought these idiot kids.
What the fuck are they asking me this stupid question?
Have you heard the new deftones album that's not out yet?
Yeah, of course they do.
Why wouldn't I have a copy ofones album that's not out yet? I know. Yeah, of course they do. Why wouldn't I?
Why wouldn't I have a copy of every record that isn't out yet?
On the bus.
Let me go grab it.
They said they stood up there for so long.
And we want,
yeah, we stood out there until the bus left is what we did.
And it was a long time because they were opening for faith no more.
So like they had, they were waiting. So we, yeah, we stood out there and then they left and were like, for years I was like, Fred, there's a
fucking Dick. And then I was like, but I didn't, now that I'm a little older, I'm
like, I did ask him about something that he has nothing to do with. And he's
also, he's also a guy that when you hear people talk about him, they're like, oh, he's like the nicest guy in the world.
So I don't know.
This guy asks on the Metallica sub right.
He goes, Does anyone know what Metallica thinks of people's feelings on their more hated albums?
Hmm.
Would that be like load reload and St.
Anger? Is that what we're talking about?
Lulu.
Okay. Reload and St. Anger, is that what we're talking about? Lulu. Okay, those two that I hear mostly are those,
Reload, Load, Reload, and St. Anger, which, St. Anger for me.
Yeah, I mean those are proper Metallica albums.
Lulu is Metallica backing up Lou Reed.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay, that one is bad.
Well, if we're talking singles as well, then.
Hold on, hold on.
Wait, what?
Say that again.
That one Lulu is legitimately really a bad out.
You're legitimately wrong.
Actually a masterpiece and it really is.
And it's, it's an album Lou Reed making an album basically about how he's dying now.
And you go listen to junior dad and you tell me when you listen to it,
knowing that he knows he's dying.
And then you tell me whether you still think it's bad.
Okay.
Now I'm going to listen to Lulu.
I hated it when it came out.
I hate it.
I thought it was, I thought it was just beyond awful and it's a bad pairing,
but Lou Reed was, he knew a, these guys will help me get attention for a record
and B they're going to play this like thudding, relentless thing that I can
take advantage of because that's the vibe of this record is a very violent record.
And he knew he could get that violence from them.
And it says it's the last thing he ever did he died shortly after it came out and when it came out David
Bowie said to Laurie Anderson Lou's widow the amazing Laurie Anderson he
said Lulu is the best thing Lou ever did and people will catch up to it.
And I just want to say I'd like to apologize for my cohost.
He's not quite yet caught up, but I want to assure you, I am a huge fan of Lulu.
It's one of my favorite albums.
And I 100% agree with all the stuff that Tom said.
You're making this up.
No, I haven't.
I love Lou Reed though.
I love Lou Reed. I love Lou Reed.
And so I've not heard that album, but I will listen to it. I like their collaboration.
This is just a web of lies here this show. Oh, the whole show is a horrible mess.
He does this stuff. Oh, it's my favorite. I can't sort through this.
I'm constantly lying, but the truth is I trust your opinion on music a lot and I will listen
to that album.
I'm just saying I was wrong.
I was as wrong as can be on it.
I was one of the people who hated on it big time.
So I have walked it all the way back.
What about their collaboration with Ja Rule?
That one's good too.
Have you heard that song, the collab, everybody, if you've not heard that make sure that that is in my opinion
The worst piece of music that I've ever heard. I really believe that it is
It doesn't it's like noise
It's like a bunch of different songs playing on top of each other is really what it sounds like in not a good way at all
So it's jaw roll and Metallica.
And swiz beats and swiz beats as well.
And swiz beats thrown in.
It's brutal.
It is brutal.
Can you play a bit of it?
Pull it up right now and play a bit.
It is honestly just put in Metallica.
Yeah.
It is really, really hard to listen to in so many ways.
I don't know what they're going for exactly
I think it's like sort of recognizes
Metallica's worst song ever as well. So here it is. It's called we did it again. We did it again
It's so bad.
It's the worst song.
Yeah, we did it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I made the worst song.
We made the worst song.
That's what they're talking.
No, that's your boys.
This is one of the few times I've been in favor of the audio limitations of, uh, streaming
to where that sounded.
I could barely hear it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
The noise gate definitely helped us a lot there.
Yeah.
Um, so this guy seems heard the song.
I'm going to put one out there that I think is a rock hip hop collab that I think might go toe to toe with that.
The beach boys and the fat boys did a version of a white belt.
I think I know that one.
And they, cause I, I liked the fat boys for periods.
I was a fat boys guy when I was a kid, love disorderly's love the, are
you ready for Freddy song. That's
the one I know of the fat boys featuring Robert England.
I knew that's that's weird. I know you told me when you're younger, you're a big fan of
fat boys, but I thought it was in reference to the big old titties used to like to suck.
Oh, shut up. Did you know that? Tom, did you know? Don't he just an important thing to know is that Brian, when he was younger,
used to his favorite thing to do is to suck on my favorite thing to do
for three hours at a time.
It was the only thing that he would do when he was hooking up with the with the.
We're talking about Metallica right now.
I'm not shutting down.
Thank you, Tom. Shutting me down.
Thank you. You don me down. Thank you.
You don't talk that way about my friend, Brian.
Thank you.
Listen, I'm not talking any kind of way. That's the truth. Honestly, I have.
The truth is the truth. That's a fair point.
I have a contract. I have a contract. I have a contract where if we have a certain level of
guest on the show, I'm actually, I, it's in the contract.
I have to break it up. You're going to submarine him. I have to bring that up. That, that particular thing I have.
Well, this is what I want to ask you then. Okay, good. Why did you ever, why did you ever disclose anything like this? We were talking about something and it kept,
we were talking about the TV show, Real Sex.
Yeah.
And then you thought you were on it?
It was, we weren't talking about,
were we talking about Roseanne?
Oh no, sorry, Roseanne was the show
that you got kind of jerking off to.
That's a whole, whole, stop telling stories about me.
What kind of conversations are you guys having over there?
Oh, we're very, sometimes very gross on this show. Dom, it's really. This is locker room talk. That's a whole whole div stop telling what kind of conversations are you guys having over?
Sometimes very gross
Room talk. Oh, it is locker room talk was this is locker room talk They honestly the show could be done in a locker room. It's like, do you know the pineapple lifestyle?
The pineapple lifestyle. What what do you mean? Nevermind. It's the swingers. We talk a lot about swingers.
Swingers will put like a pineapple logo on things.
Upside down pineapple. If you see upside down pineapple.
I didn't know it was upside down. Cause I bought like a pineapple, uh,
I bought a pineapple thing when I was just decorating my office.
Yeah.
And then I didn't realize it had any significance towards anything like that.
It's kind of unfair. Cause there are pineapple stuff on, on towards anything like that. It's kind of unfair because there are pineapple stuff on like Decorate.
Yeah, people decorate it and then they've kind of co-opted it and it is technically
upside down.
But yeah, if you see a pineapple and you're a real horny swinger, then you take it as
like some sort of a sign or whatever.
So what does this mean?
That the SpongeBob lives in a sex shop?
We got this is a common Metallica fan thing.
How big is that thermos you have there? That water bottle?
Thank you.
It's 10 feet.
He drinks too much water.
I don't think it's looks like you're drinking from a pipe.
It's a force perspective.
Like it's closer right to the camera.
So I'm aware of force perspective, but It's forced perspec, like it's closer, right, to the camera, so I'll make it bigger. No, I'm aware of forced perspective,
but that's you. How is he directed videos?
He's directed music videos.
I know, I know, I'm well aware.
Listen. This guy knows
forced perspective. He's he's directed music videos.
I'm on your side here.
I know, look, I have no allegiance to,
I love both of you.
Oh, that's nice.
So I'm gonna give you both the business
and none of you the business. I mean, we've both been on your show before, so that's kind of you. Oh, that's nice. So I'm gonna give you both the business and none of you the business.
I mean, we've both been on your show before,
so that's kinda cool.
I mean, Brian was on as an invited guest.
I was on as a caller on your first ever podcast show
off of WFMU, where I asked a real asinide question
and you humored me.
Wait, what was, first of all, what show was that?
My first one, the first one back?
First podcast, first podcast that you first one back? First podcast.
First podcast that you did was just like a podcast and maybe-
It was like 2015, something like that?
Yeah, that would track around 2015.
I asked you a really, really- I just wanted to get on, you know?
So I asked you a really-
Of course.
I had nothing to ask really, but you were- I said something about you being a podcaster
now and I think some other person like Marilyn Manson
had a podcast and I said, how do you feel about, you know,
being in competition?
And you were very polite.
You were very polite and you managed to like keep it going
and not make me feel stupid.
So I just, yeah, I wanted to say thanks for that.
But I also just wanted to mention that we've both been
on your show.
So we're, we've, yeah, we both put on there.
I'm the biggest fan.
That's why Chris is embarrassing me right now Chris you just know you come
to Los Angeles mm-hmm you come on the show well I can tell you he's afraid I
literally can't come to America it's not up to me I can't I think I've been
advised it wouldn't wouldn't be as move. We were gonna tour out there and everything.
But yeah, if things change.
You can do it.
Yeah, I mean.
Thank you, Tom.
I keep talking.
You think you're gonna get stopped at the border,
you're gonna go through your phone?
Just, this is what you do.
This is what you do.
Well, this is what you do.
Just listen.
Oh, this is gonna help.
I know things, I know things.
If you guys would only for once listen to me.
Okay.
You take your cell phone. You put the picture on
the cell phone. The screen is the Trump getting shot and he's up. Those TSA people, border people,
they look at that thing. They go, yes, guys are right. Yeah, that's true. You could pull that off.
right? Yeah, that's true. You could pull back. If you put that on as your screen,
does him like a defiant, heroic Trump picture when, when that image came out,
everybody said we were having a conversation. We all were just like, he's going to win the election. Now. Yeah. Pictures.
The picture was a real,
really powerful.
And it's a, it's a background screen of a lot of phones. No doubt about it. Oh yeah. Because that picture is undeniably powerful.
It's a background screen of a lot of phones, no doubt about it.
So make it yours and then come to America.
The only thing-
We might not let you out because you're such a patriot.
The big problem I have is that the way I was going to get in there was through my old channel
and press about my old channel. And my old channel, I would cause trouble with the guy named Sebastian Gorka a lot,
who is now like the terrorism czar at the White House and JD Vance, who's now the
vice president at the White House.
So that's that's my issue, I feel like is.
Yeah. Unfortunately, listen, I would love to come to America.
I love America, but I'm
just not really welcome there anymore. Like so many Canadians and other people around
the world, I no longer feel welcome in America.
No, it's the tourism economy is cratering in America right now because nobody wants
to come here. I don't blame anybody for an all kidding aside,
I do not blame anybody for wanting to.
Yeah, I mean it sucks, it's where we go,
we'd go to, like that's where we would go on vacation.
We would go to American places on vacation.
Obviously, I live in Vancouver, it's right on the border.
So we would just go so regularly and it's just like,
yeah, it's not even really a thought anymore
for so many people, it's really wild.
It's really- See,'s really hard war around town
How's that? Oh, I wish I'm a huge fan of Nard war my my
Ryan Reynolds, which I'm bummed out about I hate Ryan Reynolds, but I love an art bar
See Tom knows real Vancouver celebrities that we actually love here like people like Nard war
We love Nard war around here. Do you know my friend Liz, Liz Kirshenbaum?
I don't.
She's a comedy.
She does fanzines and stuff.
And she's a big.
She's very nice and sports best show.
And it's very so. Yeah.
And she's in Vancouver.
She's Vancouver. Yes.
Another Vancouver person.
Dan Bayhar, of course, in Bayhar. Oh. I've seen him. I've seen him play me as I don't know him, but I've seen him on stage as many a times. Yes.
So this is a question. Getting you guys back on track here. This is a question that's often asked by my
track. Oh, it's so I can't handle that. Mr. Quinnby, by the way.
I get yelled at if you don't talk about enough
of the thing. Yeah, no, it's true. That's what you do. People are listening. Oh, he
did this show and he didn't even talk about it. They yell at me mostly because I'm the
one who derails it and they'll get really mad at me. Oh good. Chris had to bring up
the Brian sucked on titties again. We already know that.
And yeah, this is a Metallica fan. When you told him that, did you know it was a mistake?
The second you said it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, anything I say is I am a victim in all
this stuff. Like people, everything I do, I won't even like, what are some of the other
examples of stuff that you've said that where it sort of bit. Yeah
None there aren't any other things
Anyway couple of them this guy asks can we get it out off your in a to rip?
You had to rip out your underwear cuz your dick balls got too hot on a plate
This I this now you're going too far with he's gone too far
If I was going too far if I was going too far Tom I would tell you that he
Recommended a guy for a job at his call center and the guy got fired for jerking off at his desk
That wasn't my fault. I had nothing to do with that. So anyway, this is a common Metallica
question. Can we look evil? Yes, he is. I got to deal with it every time we record stuff.
You're like the devil. You mix truth with wise and you're still mad at me because I
said that I loved Lulu. I apologize. I swear. I will. I will listen to it, Tom, and I will tell
you my honest opinion on it. I'll send you. Well, this is it. Whatever you think of it
is what you think of it. What's your cell phone number? I'll text you regularly about
it. You have a better chance of figuring out the nuclear codes and getting my cell phone
number. That's what you think, Tom. I actually can get cell phone numbers. So come on. So anyway, these guys are asking, can we get Metallica for the Superbowl 60
halftime show in San Francisco? Is it just mirrors Metallica? The ultimate headliner
for the Superbowl 60 halftime show in San Francisco, California, the city they call
home. Um, this is very common every year before they have announced the Super Bowl
Performers. Yeah, these guys are all like
Metallica what the fuck is wrong with you? Just Metallica like like it is like I even know about this like this is it This is a well-known thing that every year before they come out and drove saying like this is the year
It's got to be Metallica now, right?
and drove saying like, this is the year it's gotta be Metallica now. Right?
This guy goes, nope, they play live, have no interest in Superbowl shenanigans.
And the band has said this on many occasions that I don't believe.
I think Metallica would play a Superbowl in a second.
Like, oh, I don't know.
I think they got a little bit too much integrity for something like that.
Yeah, exactly.
Can we smoke our cigars on stage?
Can we sell our whiskey at the concession stands?
Yeah, who wouldn't want to see Metallica do a medley of their hits with then like Luke
Bryant or whoever comes up and Sturgill Simpson has to go up and play with them.
This guy goes, I was thinking, ask for the show or spectacle part of it.
They could have choreographers as old soldiers and play one or the day that ever comes.
So they could play one, which would be a great song for the Superbowl.
I think, you know?
Yeah, because one team's hoping at the end of the day that they've won. Yeah, that's right. Oh, it's O.N.E.
No, I know. I was just trying to make a joke.
Maybe it wasn't a fit 10 years ago today.
Every generation knows them.
It's played at every sporting event stadium now.
The huge pick up youth from Stranger Things.
That's a new thing.
They were on Stranger Things.
Now all the
fans think everybody's song was on stranger things. They weren't like, make it sound like
they came out of the upside down. Lars was like a sheriff in town.
Yeah. Now, um, and just also Chris, just so you know, when we talk about football, we're talking
about four downs in a play football.
This is not, we're not talking about your beloved BC lions.
And listen, I am the BC lions are beloved to me.
I had season tickets for 12 years actually season tickets this guy
I've never had a season ticket in my life because you don't like sports. I do I go to them all the time
Listen, I I appreciate I've learned recently Tom about the NFL. So I'm well versed in it
I'm well versed. I'm well aware that you guys have
You know a version of Canadian football up there,
and it seems like it's honestly,
it's pretty fast-paced and I kind of enjoy it.
Yeah, a lot of it.
People like it here.
It seems like it's catching on.
Honestly, some people up here are even watching it now,
I find.
This guy goes, why would they bother?
All that planning just to get up there
and lip sync abbreviated versions of their popular songs?
It makes no sense for an actual band anymore.
No way we're going to,
no way we're going to get any tracks from before the black album,
except for maybe one, uh, not how they also, first of all,
what do you think you're going to get from them? Like they're going to show up
and then they're going to just do, they're going to do something from kill them all.
Like a full song from, from an album from 1984.
It's the super bowl.
It's not real.
It's like Kendrick Lamar is at the highest you can be right now, artistically.
And he goes on, he just did a medley of stuff.
Jamming them all together. Here's half of this song.
Here's one verse of that song.
It was one of the best things I ever saw in my life.
This guy says, uh, that's how you'd get me to finally watch American football.
And then this other guy, I don't think this guy is sitting, sitting, fucking
smoking his first ever cigar, drinking his first glass of whiskey, watching
his first ever football game.
He's like, so this is what it feels like.
And then this final guy goes, it would be the first time I watch an entire super bowl.
So I don't think he knows what halftime means.
I love these, these pronouncements that these people make as if any of this matters to any.
Well, I never, I guess that'll be the first Superball
I ever watched.
It's like, who cares?
Why are you so, why do you think you're so important?
Well, they're not gonna get my,
they won't get my traffic.
They can't count on me watching it.
Yeah, well, you know who else they can count on watching it?
Everyone else.
Yeah.
They'll be fine without you. It's very popular. It's Well, you know, who else they can count on watching it? Everyone else. Yeah. They'll be fine without you.
It's very popular. It's very popular. Even before the Metallica bump,
the super bowl actually gets pretty good ratings. Yeah.
So one thing we do on this show a lot is that we discovered and we hand it to
everybody. Anybody can have this ticketmaster.com.
You can review bands on their shows. So we have found that you can review shows in band. So I went and looked
up Metallica. Um, this guy goes one star and power field isn't a good venue for concerts.
All we could hear was the base and we couldn't hear the beautiful voice of James Hetfield.
First of all, you say anything that like anything where the
name of the, the venue has field in it. It's just like, it's not,
you're not there for the sound.
You're in a field. It's literally in the title of the venue.
It's a field.
Yeah.
It's a big issue.
It's hard to get good sound when you're dealing with, if you want to have a venue that big.
It's always going to be hard for, I guess some people maybe, I don't go to a lot of
arena shows, but it just feels like there's always going to be some struggle with making
something sound good in a gigantic stadium.
The way sound moves. If you're in a football stadium, the sound travels from one end to
the other. There's just literally the space that it takes and sound bouncing all over
the place. It's just like, it's not built for that.
Speaking of Tom, you brought up the CFL.
I know you're a CFL fan.
I was at a gray cup, a gray cup many years ago.
That's because you guys are Super Bowl.
It's a super bowl.
Metallica can't even get a gig on the gray cup.
Really?
I'll tell you one year I went and watched Nickelback
was the, was halftime show.
So that wasn't, that was a pretty big band,
but the, the one year I went, it was black eyed peas. That was the halftime show, so that was a pretty big band. But the one year I went, it was Black Eyed Peas
that was the halftime show.
And it was, you couldn't hear anything.
I mean, it was like the worst,
you couldn't hear any of the singing.
It was the worst sound I'd ever heard in my life.
And that was just because that was what it was.
It was like, they hadn't figured it out for sound at all.
It was just like a football game going on,
this big, gigantic, cavernous football stadium. But yeah, it was a lot of people came just for the black eyed
peas I feel like and that was, that's on them.
Yeah. That's this guy says expensive, but worth it. Five stars saw Metallica more than
a dozen times. And this latest tour for 72 seasons has been one of the best so far. Although
ticket master somehow manages
to uphold a legal monopoly on the ticket purchases,
which helps to drive up the overall cost
of attending an event like this,
I'll still continue to try and see my favorite bands
when they're playing, even if someday, soon,
means that I'll have to take out another home equity loan.
Oh my God.
Just joking around, I think, though.
But he's commenting on how,
how these crazy fees are. I mean, ticket masters crazy with the fees.
So this person I don't think understands that they do two nights.
Cause they've been doing this 72 seasons tour, which is that was the, is that the, that's the album. Yes. It's bad. And then they play, they don't repeat songs over the course of the two
nights is what they were doing.
So you don't get a good set on either night.
I think would be like, I, that's what I noticed.
I was like, you're getting deep cuts though, that you hadn't heard in a long time.
They play about.
And so, so at the show we were at ICP was on another side
stage performing and there was like an hour period or there was like a 45 minute period
during the Metallica set where they were only playing stuff from 72 seasons. And it was
just an Exodus over to the ICP stage. Just everybody was leaving. I even ended up believing to
tell you the truth. So like I think that I heard a few hits, but not very many. I think
a battery and master of puppets got played. I didn't hear one or anything like that, but
this person is saying
What this is a good explanation of what it's like to see one of the shows this guy goes only played four of their hits
The rest of the songs were deep tracks are new music no denying their guitar skills, though
Not worth over $200 per ticket. So they got our skills notice that
One one instrument not mentioned mm-hmm the drums yeah I mean I think yeah no not even the biggest Metallica fan can convince themselves I went I
went and after the episode that where we learned about Lars and stuff I went and looked up how
people feel about his drumming yeah they think he's the worst. They think he's the worst drummer ever. He's considered one of the worst. Yeah. He's like the manager. He's like the
manager of Metallica. That's what I learned as well is that he was just kind of like the
manager and he's like, yeah, I'll drum, you know. Yeah. This guy goes great shows. Four
stars. Metallica put on a great show, even though they took the stage 15 to 20 minutes late. Oh my
God at a rock concert. That's shocking. That's shocking. Nine minutes. Should have started
nine minutes ago. What's going on here guys? I don't know if I've ever been to a rock show
that wasn't at least 30 minutes late, you know, they are just always late
Sometimes on purpose when we perform live we start 15 minutes late on purpose. Yeah, it's like
Oh, hopefully more people show up is how I think yeah
This guy does go pre sold tickets for our show
So no, but some people didn't show up 15 to 20 minutes late both nights and ended 10 to 15 minutes early. Now that. I will agree.
What does that mean, though?
What? Well, they don't tell you how long that they're playing for.
I've never been to a show.
Thirty five minutes of show.
No, I understand that.
But what I'm saying is I've never been to a concert in the
and then the band is like, we will be playing for one hour and 20 minutes.
Like, how does he know?
What was he know the amount they were supposed to be up there for?
He goes, would have been better as one long show in my opinion,
but for revenue to all parties and age of the performers,
I understand the reasoning for two nights.
What would have made it better under that format is to be able to pick different
seats for each night. That way it could have truly been a different experience
each night. So that's a weird,
very strange. way it could have truly been a different experience each night. So that's a weird, different perspective visually.
Yeah.
And if they would have moved them to a different seat and he didn't like it as
much as the first seat,
I'm sure it would not have complained about that.
He would have understood that that's part of the risk you take probably.
And he would have taken his line. I was over from the left and then the second night I was on the right. I
Like the left better than the right they moved me and I was star slightly obstructed
So here's a strange one
This is three four stars Metallica still has it but the staging could have been better the fact that the sage was so big
And didn't rotate was a drawback.
I think a smaller solid round stage that rotated would have been
better for everyone to see.
Yeah.
That's just called a different idea is what that is.
It's like, what if, well, what if we did it in the round this time?
It's just like, yeah, well, that's called different than what we're doing.
These are guys who have, a lot of them have a lot of really good ideas.
A lot of guys we talk about in general, we cover that they'll, they might not do
something professionally, but you'll find that their, their ideas are like even
better than the professional guys ideas about the same stuff like wrestling or
ideas about the same stuff like wrestling or the thing with it is what's missing from the world is not.
People working hard and making things happen through toil and effort.
It's somebody just throwing out ideas
and expecting somebody else to just go make them reality.
There's such a shortage of that in the world.
This guy is great. I love this guy. He goes, uh, four stars, very good,
but the stanchions surrounding the stage will provide at least some level of
obstruct obstruction. If you're getting seat,
the best surprisingly seating location is to be perpendicular to a stanchion as
this minimizes the stage
cross section that you can't see. It's worrisome because these are categorized
as quote partially obstructed view, but don't let that scare ya. I sat in expensive regular
seats the first night and partially obstructed view the second and the second night had a
better view, also at a much cheaper price. The very lowest rows may be a bit physically closer
to the stage, but you're better off being in a higher row.
For example, row 15.
Due to the better elevation for viewing the stage.
Metallica's performance was flawless.
Now he's just talking about like the different sort of idea
that where you wanna sit.
Yeah, there is a few different schools of thought,
I think, on where you want to sit.
He's not even talking about stanchions.
He's just like, yeah, you want to be about 15 rows up.
You can get kind of a better perspective
from up there down to the stage.
It's like, yeah, everyone knows how that works
with watching anything.
That if you're closer, yes, you're closer, that's nice,
but you might lose some of the perspective that you would get if you were further away and you could
see everything.
So this is a review for hardwired attribute to Metallica or stars. I've been to over 25
Metallica concerts in my lifetime. I'm the same age as James Hetfield. This tribute band really pulled it off.
What a weird thing to say.
I'm the same age as the guy in the band.
Just to give you an idea how big a fan I am of the same fucking ages.
Yeah, they were born in the same year.
That's how big a fan I am.
Something neither of us had any control over.
The tribute band really pulled it off. Of course, the lighting and sound system at revolution
live is subpar, but it's not hardwired fault. The lead singer really tried to act like James
same guitar, same mannerisms that most people there didn't pick up on, but I did.
How do you know if they, how do you know that? How does he know if other people picked up on those things?
Did he ask them?
Like they could have just silently been picking up on the things as well.
No, he was like cheering like a seal and everybody was like, I mean, this is just one of those
guy things where it's just like, yeah, I was kind of I was tuned in a little bit more than
everybody around me to this thing.
Like I'm a little bit of a bigger fan
than everyone around me.
But they're probably thinking the exact same thing.
Overall, I highly recommend them.
As close to Metallica as you can get.
They played all the classics
and some old off the cuff tunes, which was cool.
I enjoyed the song being the oldest one in the crowd.
So he was the oldest guy there
That's always a cool feeling I find like I always feel I'm always like, oh hell
Yeah, ain't nobody even close to as old as me in this fucking place like oh man. That's so cool
One last thing I wanted to do here is I went to Amazon and I looked up a load remastered expanded edition
I thought I'd get a few reviews of load from,
from the people of Amazon, which they're very smart people. And you know,
they don't, they're us. The people of Amazon are us, you know, it's just us.
This guy goes two stars remastered, not to these ears.
Oh shit. I already owned this album twice over, so I'm a fan. That said,
I'm always interested in a remaster to gain some extra clarity and oomph. That said, the
original recording was a bit muddy in my opinion, and this remaster does nothing to add clarity
or value. Because my advice, if you already own this album, don't waste your money on
a double dip. I assume the lure here would be for the expanded edition
that adds content.
It's what we really need more of.
Like what, them talking before the song starts?
No, it's just demo versions of songs.
That's what all this stuff is.
I review these new metal albums for the POD cast,
which is my podcast about new metal.
And when we go to listen to the album, sometimes-
Every podcast you do a podcast about new metal,
ultimately.
Sometimes, unfortunately, I try to steer it away.
Wrestling too, it'll pop up every now and then.
I didn't bring up, but we're talking about music,
so everybody needs to know my,
what I like.
I think, yeah, just giving you, just giving you the business.
You're allowed, you're allowed to give me the business.
I'll take the business.
Thanks.
Uh, but yeah, I I'll go to an album that was released in like, you know, 2003 and it'll have like 19 songs on it. And
five of them are just live versions, remixes, remasters.
And cause that's like the new way to get people to buy stuff
now, like it's, it's not new, new, but it's like, I don't
have to own the albums anymore. So're like well, we'll sell you an album though and
We'll we'll fix it
I guess this person like is it like a is a demo if it's if you're trying to get more kind like a demo version
Of is a longer version of the song before they like cut stuff out of it
No, a demo is like the first try at the first cracks at the song
Yeah, so you when you say that you're getting more, they're just getting a bunch
of different versions of the song.
Is that right?
I see.
Okay.
This guy goes, greedy band makes you buy full album.
Few songs really just want a few good songs really just wanted King nothing.
Okay.
Well then you just figure that out.
Other people might want more.
The greedy band.
Somebody who hates King Nothing.
This is the first time I've heard somebody call Metallica a greedy band.
And I was like, I'm going to have to disagree with you.
This version of greedy.
Obviously, we've talked about all the stuff they're selling.
They are a greedy band, definitely, but not maybe not in this way.
But yeah, that's I like the idea of being like, yeah, they have this great song.
And it's like they could just sell it to us for a dollar.
But they're like trying to do the classic capitalist thing where they're like putting it,
you know, like when they put the bad flavors in with this to try to sell them.
Now, all of a sudden, boom, now, it's $10.
I just wanted King Nothing. I don't need any of this St. Anger stuff.
And finally, two stars. What happened? This is such a weird review because it's from 2021.
This isn't like old. Yeah. He goes, the cover has blood and semen mixed together, which
that is true. The load cover, and it's called Load.
Of course it has semen.
He goes, they wear makeup.
The songs sound like honky tonk hard rock.
When it came out, I listened to a demo of it
and I promised myself I would never buy it.
Guess what?
He broke that promise to himself.
Yeah.
Imagine not even being able to stick to that.
Not even having the, you gotta be able to at least stick to not buying load reload
a willpower
Zero zero he goes. I got some ucds of load and reload I listened to it many times before I started to find something worthy of listening to
It has its moments and if you look at it as a hard rock album
by some band you never heard of, it's actually pretty good. Once I see it says Metallica covered
in semen, I get a sour taste in my mouth. He's obsessed with the semen part. These songs would
have been fine for a side project or b-sides to good songs. Sad day for metal fans the 90s was.
Had to listen to much heavier stuff like Fear Factory,
Morbid Angel, Pantera, Slayer
to make me forget this album existed.
But now it's okay.
Funny thing is I like these more than Sane Anger,
Death Magnetic and Hardwired for whatever it's called.
Load and Reload do sound like albums they wanted to make while the later
ones sound like a band trying to do something they no longer are capable of. So that is...
I like the idea of listening to an album. These music guys listen to music in a different way
than me because if I listen to it and I didn't like it, I might give it a couple of listens,
but they seem to like, this guy's just like I'm gonna like try to like dig out
Something that I like here just anything that's good and nice something that I can enjoy and it's like I don't know
I feel like there's a lot of different music that you could go to that will you know that won't
What doesn't require so much work to enjoy it? I just don't know why every
every part of the experience is, is just being
evaluated critically as if it's life, life and death.
Well, I like this part, but that part I didn't like, and I'm now like, why
didn't they just do this instead of that?
It's like, well, they didn't.
Yeah.
Just listen, just, they didn't. Yeah, just listen.
Just, it's just.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, getting so obsessed with Metallica
or any band that you're not, as we talk about,
you're not just. Unless it's Korn.
That you're not just like listening to it
and being like, this is good music that I like
and I'm enjoying it.
It's always gonna be kind of weird to me,
but I'm not a music guy, so I don't yeah
I don't really I'm like a zig is perfect
I listen to music that I like and if I don't like it, then I generally stop
What do you listen to give me give me an idea what you're listening Fox's?
That's what he always says it's not really I listen to a lot of I actually listen to like a lot more ambient music
So like Brian, you know, I mean I listen to a lot of ambient music. So like Brian Eno and I mean,
I listened to a lot of Apex Twin and Roshi.
What do you listen to Brian Eno?
I mean, music for airports is probably my favorite.
For airports you listen to Apollo, you like that one?
No, no, I mean, I haven't, he has so much.
So there's probably a lot that I like.
I don't even know any Brian Eno songs.
I mean, I do.
Oh, yeah.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
It's nice. It's music.
For airports.
Yeah, I mean, that's probably that's that one of the best.
It really is.
But yeah, I do like Fleet foxes I kind of I guess
but yeah I'm I'm I like really soft music right now like I go through different phases
and stuff but right now I like music that has very little impact if that makes sense
you just your brain is tired and you want something you want a pillow.
Yes, I have a 15 month old baby.
So that's kind of your own around.
My last song I listened to was working man by rush.
Sure. That's a rocker.
I mean, I like it is it's a typical of rush.
It's like a compact. It's like a it's like a
Tight hard rock song
Yeah, it's good. I like 2112 the album for some reason I saw Russian concert once it was very I
Was impressed by rush. Yeah, so one of our greats one of our greats Tom. What are you listening to right now?
What's what? What's the?
To now boy. Oh boy. I don't know. Let me see you got me hooked on
King Kong and the black like I love those Harlem is like
One of my that Harlem the the album hippies the OCs. I love me onto the OCs Tom Yeah, I know Cesar playing here next week
OCs you got me onto the OCs Tom. I think. Yeah, OCs are playing here next week.
They played here at the weirdest venue.
Like they played, it's called the Alrosa Villas
where Dimebag Darrell got killed.
Oh yeah.
Kurt Viall as well, you got me into Kurt Viall as well.
Okay, yeah, I saw Kurt a couple weeks ago,
open for the Pixies, so it was cool.
Oh, hey, I love the Pixies as well.
I'm gonna listen to, hold on, I'll find something.
Hold on.
Oh, Tom's gonna find what he's listening to right now.
I'm listening to Wrestling Themes.
I'm kidding, I'm not really doing it.
I was big into, I had the album of Wrestling Themes,
the WWF, whatever it was called,
that had Stone Cold, that had The Undertaker on there,
and yeah, DG Generation X, I think, was.
Yeah, that's an insane thing to listen to.
I've never done that.
When I was a kid, I listened to it.
Yeah.
Like this album, Von Elmo.
Von Elmo.
Von...
Came out in the early 80s, reissued now in a 2 LP set.
It's one of the all-time best albums.
What kind of...
I don't even know what genre of music is it.
Just listen to it. Claimed to have been from outer space from the planet
strays are and it has this opening song where it's like,
it's like, this is a message from the, and this like goes on and on.
Like it's talking about the method goes, the messages long live heavy metal.
But it's not heavy metal.
It's just, it's this weird, hard pop, but it's, it's a guy who is
pretending to be an, an alien.
But meanwhile, he was like, you find out the real life story was he was
like on the run from like mob guys.
I am going to listen to that now. Elmo.
Elmo. Von Elmo.
Yeah. Elmo. Yeah, not Elmo.
The only other thing-
No, I'm not listening to exactly Anna. No way.
You love that song. The only other thing I had was a guy saying this.
I'm planning to get the first line of Bleeding Me's Bridge lyrics tattooed on my forum,
which for the longest time I thought were caught under wheels roll.
These were the official lyrics listed on Metallica's website, and they stayed this way right until the load remaster set dropped.
However, now the website list them as caught under wheels
roll, no, no apostrophe over wheels.
He goes, does anyone have an idea
what the correct version is?
They both mean pretty much the same thing,
but ideally I'd like to know what James intended them to be.
That's smart.
You don't want to get called up.
Imagine you're at a party and you show that to someone
and they're just like, what is that apostrophe doing there?
I got a tattoo of a lyric. I don't know
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean tattoos of song lyrics. He got to make sure it's got to be one that you know
Really? Well, I would feel like you know, I feel like it would be but again
This is this is just a thing where he's there's no doesn't matter who gives a shit you're not talking about getting the lyric wrong. You're talking about having like a piece of punctuation wrong or something.
Yeah, I'm gonna get a tattoo of Fred Durst my favorite Fred Durst line. I feel like shit on that is. Yeah, Tom, I want to thank you for doing this show. I really appreciate the biggest fucking fan in the world
I'm so excited to do the show do your show. I yeah, I panicked but uh, it was so fun. You were great
Thank you. You were good. You were good. I watched it. You're a good friend
Anytime you need to talk about any of that any new metal or anything. I'm there for you. I know so much about it
Here's a mellow album Chris get listen to this album by Sedona
She's LA based. It's a really good album. She's a very she's an amazing voice. Okay
I'm so Tom's on the best show on
Twitch. Yeah, I'm the best show. It's every Tuesday night and
It's the 25th anniversary of this year of the show.
Uh, I made it only.
Yeah.
You guys will get there.
You'll get there someday.
I made it on my last show.
I made it 13 years and then, but, uh, anyway, thanks for doing this, Tom.
Everybody listened to the best show.
It's the best.
Bye.
Bye.