Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 133 - Cigar Guys with Tim Heidecker

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

This week on Guys we have Tim Heidecker on to talk about some of the more manly guys we've ever covered, Cigar Guys. What was your first stick like? Who do you associate with cigar smoking? Is it healthy to start smoking? We read some really annoying cigar descriptions and finally we talked about me wearing a cowboy hat. There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I'm Brian. My co-host is pufferating on a stick. Chris James. Hi. hey uh not yeah you don't know if that's an insult or not it's not it's just smoking a cigar i learned a lot of slang this week pufferating on a stick a stick i've heard before i've heard from some some comedians who like cigars i've heard them describe it as a stick but i've never heard pufferating

i don't like it and let's get our guests in here this week i think you know who he is it's tim highdecker hi tim hey guys tim thank i have you first off we always we're very professional in our show and we always ask the guest have you what's are you a big cigar guy or have you ever smoked cigars um i'm a pretty big cigar guy i've got a really nice collection um i don't smoke them i collect them i just yeah just to like just to like uh look at them and stuff yeah i'm you know people collect stuff for all sorts of reasons and yeah that's true there's scars from all over the world. I've got cigars from obviously a fair amount of Cubans and Dominican Republic

cigars and then just cigars from all over the place. But do you, have you ever smoked one? No. No. I'm just kidding. I'll back up and restart. How about this? I don't, I've, of course, I've smoked cigars. I'm a man of a certain age and I've done just about everything. um you can do yeah um but i don't really have an affinity towards them and i actually don't like them quite at all me too i'm the same i went to a bachelor party i've talked about it before i threw a bachelor party by the way for a party where i wasn't the best man which seems kind of fucked up but anyway i threw a bachelor party and i bought i i looked up like expensive cigars and I bought a bunch of them

and I wore a derby hat and we sat up my house and I was like let's all just smoke cigars and it was disgusting I was like done with it in life one minute I was done I was like God this and I smoked cigarettes for a long time cigarettes are great

yeah I smoke cigarettes too and I listen I quit and obviously we've talked about we did cigarette guys and stuff and they make you stink and stuff but yeah they have something good about them cigars I never I think it was Because the first ever experience I had, I was a young kid, and we're like, we got a cigar. Somebody got a big, you know, Cuban cigar or whatever from their parents.

And then we're like, oh, we're going to go to the elementary school roof and go up there and smoke this cigar together. And yeah, it just made us so sick, like, we're children, right? We're like young. And it made us so physically sick that I could not get off of the roof for so long. And it was like, I don't think if you have that experience as you're, first experience you're ever going to become a real cigar guy you know yeah your lips start burning remember that oh yeah yeah feeling your lips are like ah i don't like this totally yeah and and it was again yeah we were in obviously inhaling it and it's like some people oh yeah Brian maybe you'll get

into it i don't know if people if that if there's anybody then inhale cigars at all if it's if it's something i mean you're not supposed to but then again i don't listen i'm not a medical guy i'm i don't know anything about medicine but i don't know how you get addicted to nicotine if you don't inhale it you know and these guys are very clearly addicted to nicotine they say it all the time and but it again i don't know how you get if if the smoke is in your mouth i think that gets into your blood vessels and yeah yeah i would imagine just like dip or uh yeah i would imagine just again the way you say it's like burning your lips and stuff you can almost it's like seeping into you is still it's it's so yeah it's so feel so hot in your, now I'm remembering it. I'm trying to think the last time I even had a

cigar. Really, really awful. I mean, I had a black and mild, but if I told these guys in this subreddit that I had a black and mild a few years ago, they'd be like, oh, what a piece of crap you are. But I did have this, this, in our cigars, this guy goes, how was your first cigar? First cigar I smoked tasted and felt really good. When I started getting to the end of it, it started getting nauseous and dizzy. I finished the cigar and went to go take a shower. But I was so nauseous I just laid on the bathroom floor naked for like 45 minutes. I finally mustered up the strength to get in the shower. Then I proceeded to sit down in the shower for about an hour.

I managed to finish showering and ate some pasta after. It made me feel better. I've been contemplating if I should smoke another because that feeling was absolutely terrible. I mean, that's similar to my experience, smoking my first one. Yeah, I guess is that I wonder if that's like a regular thing that happens to people when they smoke a cigar to start because it seems like it's a pretty negative experience. I wouldn't imagine many people would go back. Like, why would you smoke more cigars? The same reason you smoke more cigarettes. You know, they taste so good. And you're just like,

well, they don't taste good the first time. But you know what I mean. Well, I think there's a certain, like, idealized version of what it means for a man to relax and have a sense of accomplishment. And, like, I bet there's just like a lot of guys who are like, you know what it is? Like a nice, a 12-year-old scotch and a cigar. Yeah. And sitting in my, like, there's got to be so many guys in like suburbia or wherever, really, but who are like, man, I just closed a deal today. We finally, you know, got that lease finished.

I'm going to go outside. And they're like, you know, they're cosplaying like what it means to be like a it's Tony Soprano or something and but they're never they're probably not really enjoyed like if you hook them up to a lie detector test you would get that they're like not enjoying same thing with scotch like like I used I was in that that I was in that uh delusion that this is what you know high quality this is a very elegant you know it was what a gentleman should do is have a a very peaty scotch you know and it's like this tastes like shit I'm the same way I'd rather have a can of Coca-Cola that's true and the thing is it a lot of these guys are bourbon guys too that and a lot of

people say imbibe cigars which I didn't expect to see that often but yeah a lot of these guys really really they're the same guys they like expensive stuff I think and it reminds me of the rat pack guys episode where we had Hayes on and he was just like it seems like people are just fantasizing about sitting at a restaurant like with a bunch of other guys like for some reason they've made it seem weird for guys to go out to dinner together so they're like dreaming of sitting at a restaurant with a bunch of guys smoking cigars yeah and uh they can't come up with a reason to do it right is the thing it's so true though that yeah just at the end of a day that that that is what a man does when he feels a sense of accomplishment as he has. I wonder where it comes from.

It obviously originates somewhere, but like, yeah, that he has a glass of whiskey, sits in his big leather chair in like his study or whatever and he has a whiskey and a big fat cigar. And yeah, most likely most of the time does not enjoy the taste or experience of either of them, but enjoys the feeling that he gets from it or whatever, which is that like, I'm a classical man. I think there's probably something to like the idea that a cigar does take longer and that does there's probably you know to make to make a defense for it there is something to like the changing the pace of something and making something last long you know that this is going to be something I'm going to spend time with as opposed to a cigarette which you're just going

to smoke and you know spend two minutes with that experience put it out and probably have another one shortly after but a cigar is something you spend time with but at some point you must be sitting there with your scotch and you're like I'm I'm gonna let this burn out because I'm not going to smoke this whole thing they look so huge to me too like that they're so big it's like I saw one that was like this guy was like I'm camping all weekend so I bought the longest cigar I could get and it was absurdly long it was and it was like that's gonna take three days to smoke and I even did read a bunch of people like hey what do you do when you don't feel like smoking the cigar anymore and they're like throw it away because if I guess if you put it out it ruins the

cigar so like even then you pay all that money you better have an hour and a half right to sit in your thinking chair you can relight it right right you can but it the smoke inside the cigar gets stale if that makes sense like they say that some people say if you if you blow through the cigar which we'll see you a little later if you blow through the cigar it'll blow the smoke out and it might work. But yeah, they say you shouldn't relight cigars. You shouldn't let him go out.

So this guy goes, I like this guy who his first experience with the cigar was I had the H-Upman half Corona. Superb experience. I cut it perfectly lit it and the flavors were great. I really enjoyed it. So that guy had a superb experience his first time. Can I propose an idea?

Just, I don't know the rules of the show, but could we go around? and name a person that you associate with cigars and like whoever you know if you don't have one you lose okay i know why we go george burns oh yeah i'll go next i'll go next and i will say alfred hitchcock alfred hitchcock i will say bill burr okay i don't know that but i believe oh you did oh you got it you got to you got to follow him on social media he's always talking about sticks he posted about some establishment shutting down and saying this is unfortunate because I used to love to go have a stick here that's right right the term can you keep going

Seth McFarland I assume smoke cigars you assume I think so I don't know I'm going to look it up now I'm going to Google Seth McFarland cigar he just seems like the type of guy that would smoke cigars I'm going Winston Churchill oh see you know real one these are Like, yeah, you're, um, okay, now I feel like who really, who smokes? Um, one of those detectives. Fuck that, what's the detective? What's his name though? Is it, is it, is it Columbo? Was he? Yeah, that's it. Colombo. Colombo's got the Cheapo cigar that he, you know, kind of the, the, the, the, the Philly, what are they called the, the, the Philadelphia one, the swisher. So the, the. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the cheapies. Brian. Uh, so I, uh, so I, I, I, I, I,

I got to get his name, but Sylvester Stallone in Tulsa King. Oh, in Tulsa King. One of the badest, Tim. Have you seen Tulsa King? Not yet. I heard it's great. Such a badass, man. And it's like, you would think like, well, this guy is, you know, this guy is 79, 80, 82 years old.

He can't and should not be out there, you know, being a tough guy on TV or whatever. But it absolutely is one of the funniest things. Well, let's just be, let's, I mean, this is the obvious one that I thought would be first would be Tony Soprano. oh yeah soprano of course i watched that show again recently and it's it's a he's almost always smoking a cigar there's almost always a cigar if he's outside or in his car he's got a cigar brewing he's got it in that little case and you know the little leather case they carry around oh yeah yeah yeah like a whole thing you got to have like your works as that's yeah isn't an italian thing do italian guys smoke more cigars i didn't know

noticed that the guy who got sick from a cigar earlier afterwards ate pasta and i did think that was kind of interesting and maybe this guy's an italian guy there's a there's a thing here this guy goes i didn't get any nicotine sickness from my first cigar was a monte crisco number two and i said that monte crisco and it was the reason why i kept going the fifth one i had was a b pranzato rebusto and i remember it because it was so delicious and i got so sick after i threw up make sure to have some sugar or something with sugar in it it will help you a little bit if you feel like you're getting too much it's fine to just stop it you'll eventually build up tolerance to smoke till the nub so a lot of these guys say keep some

peanut m&ms close to you or like a diet coke or not a diet coke yeah full sugar coke they said full sugar they did not i said diet coke because that's what i so that's to help you to not get sick from from having the cigar and then they're saying you have to build up a tolerance to not make yourself sick from it and then you'll start enjoying it is that the idea like they're sort of saying hey you got to power through that yeah he says drink a full power soda a spoon of honey or candy before basically that seems a spoonful I'm just have a spoonful of honey that's probably what Winston Churchill did before he smoked this ago I can't I can't imagine a guy in 2025 having a spoonful of honey before his cigar I mean and I just think like I don't know again like I

tend to avoid those types of things where i have to i have to like have a bunch of sugar before or else i'll be sick like i just kind of think like well maybe it's not maybe it's not good to do then if that's yeah no but i i i i'm the same way with like i don't mind having to eat something before i do something but i don't drink yeah and i don't smoke anymore so like all i do is like that's my that is your vice that is the vice so yeah i love candy i'm a big candy guy what's your big candy are you eating a candy right now back on those ice cream sandwiches they're like special kind are you he'll always order he orders them in bulk as well i did not order them in bulk again but i did notice that i'm buying eight of them at a time so what's the brand

it's ruby jean oatmeal butterscotch ice cream sandwiches now they're 599 a piece which is a steep pricey yeah and they they only have them at one type of gas station called united dairy farmers they only have them there wow and at another specialty store so what i do is there are all there's only one udf in downtown columbus so i have to like drive to like five or six of them and buy like eight at a time uh in the suburbs i have to drive out to i didn't know i didn't realize i was talking to a mental patient i didn't know i didn't know the background oh you did it oh you did it oh it just sort of it just sort of hit me now i'm like what am i doing with my tuesday he well yeah then he couldn't get enough of them so you ordered

a bulk amount but you had to like order one hundred dollars worth of them which at least brian you were able to realize it was a bad idea which I knew I could tell you Tim because I know Brian pretty well we're good friends him and I so I knew for a fact I was like he shouldn't order a bulk amount of ice cream sandwiches you're not going to like he's not going to ration them he's not going to like you know it's not going to last them a long period of time do you have the space for that do you have the space in your freezer he's got a huge so he's got a huge place he lives in these big sprawling homes you know I don't live in a big I live in a three bedroom apartment but I do have there's listen I they make room in the freezer for me for my treats they're important to me

they're like my cigars yeah but a hundred bars is that's not it's a hundred dollars for it so it was like 30 bars right I'm sorry bars though 30 bars or something it still is an insane amount I'm not going to do it anymore because I went through them like absurdly quick like I was eating four a night yeah I wish I had do you ever wish you have one of those like uh those meat freezers that people had in their basements, you know? Like, big freezers. I've always dreamed deep, yeah, I've always dreamed of having one of those. That's it. When I was a kid I had one. Yeah, when I had, when I was a kid, I had one out in the garage, the deep freeze. And that was like where the good shit was. Like, that was like there was a bunch of suit. And I remember, actually, this reminds me when my stepdad

claims that he had caught me stealing some food out of there. And then he told me that he knew because he counted and there was one missing. And I knew he was lying because I had stolen. two of them that just that just that just that just popped back into my mind but yeah the deep freeze was huge i remember that uh dairy queen ice cream cake like leftover would always be out in the deep freeze for for like a week or so after you could go kind of fork off of that for a bit or whatever yeah i we had one growing up and i went in i like got in trouble because i that my parents put their like wedding cake topper in there to eat on their anniversary and i picked at it for the whole year oh no and then when they opened up the refrigerator

greater the cake it looked like a mouse had been there was just taking a little piece and sneaking away and they were so mad they they like lined us all up and i was like it wasn't if i had those deep freeze i would be like some meat in there i think i put you know some meat and frozen vegetables and that kind of stuff but then i load in like a bunch of snickers bars and emm and i'd get all my sweets frozen hard yeah well i want a soft serve situation i i want i want I want a soft serve machine, and I saw a good, I saw one for like $1,500. It's like the one that I have at the store. Brian, what do you, what are you looking for?

You're a genuine, you're like in a serious way looking into soft serve ice cream machines. Yeah. Ah, okay. I mean, whatever. I'm a huge fan of the treat soft serve ice cream. I understand. I just, again, it's like it feels like a similar thing to the ice cream sandwiches where in this case, you would just have access to nonstop soft serve ice cream anytime you wanted it, always.

Yep, and I could buy the helmets. You guys are always telling me I should buy the helmets. I can buy the helmets and do it myself. Just Tom Sharpling told you that. Well, he did tell me that, though. So I went to cigar asylum, which is a forum for cigar people. And this guy goes, hello, my name is Shaman Smith. I shouldn't have read that.

And I have just recently turned 18. And when I raised the appropriate funds, me and my friends were going to drive to this place called Tinderbox to get some cigars. But I have some questions. Up until now, I haven't really done any potentially hazardous things to my health. Never smoked anything. Drank, I've even managed to evade being sick much of my life. That's a cool lie. He goes, I've never taken any medications either.

In this whole while, I've seen and heard many things about the dangers of such things. So this guy is asking a cigar for him Whether it's okay for his health To enjoy some cigars I'm gonna I'm gonna they're gonna be up front and honest with them I would imagine Yeah Oger says I don't see any problems with my health I guess it's closed

I love guys that say that too Yeah and it's like it's like yeah and I haven't been to a doctor and like Yeah it's like I can only run three feet at a time like Like, I can't move without running out of breath, but I don't see any problems with my health. It depends on the kind of people you're surrounded by and stuff, too. You're right, because it's like, you could see your health as being okay, but yeah, you can't like run for more than one minute or something, but you never do that. So it's like never an issue for you in your life.

But yeah, you might, we might still be struggling. I honestly, yeah, I mean, this guy's got to know that there's health. That's a famous thing, right, that there's health. No, he says mouth cancer is found more in dip than anything else. All I can suggest is brush your teeth and rinse with a good mouthwash after. Yeah, people get, people usually more, way more people get killed by a gun than a knife. So let people stab you in the fucking heart. Why don't you?

This is the most like America after COVID thing to say. Like a guy saying, I don't think you'll get mouth cancer if you brush your teeth and wash your mouth. Yeah. Use mouthwash. That'll push the cancer out of me. exactly you just got to keep things generally clean and you'll be okay yeah i'm so tired of this fucking cancer though like can we figure this shit out by now like can we just go can we have these cures like i'm tired of thinking about like oh what if i get cancer oh i was at a i was at a party

and i smoked a cigarette come on man like i should be able to do all these things i should be to do whatever I want and like let them figure it out later get the cures out now when you find out like people are like people who die of cancer i mean i've i've close friends who died of cancer and yeah my wife's mother and like and then i always think about like i always think about linda mccartney Linda McCartney died of breast cancer like in the 90s and it was like wait you're like

one of the richest people in the world you know like you're like I hate seeing that you couldn't figure out a way to live you couldn't figure out a way to survive this what the fuck is going on yeah where do I go it's honestly it's the only time when you're like

yeah we see a really rich like Steve Jobs or something although he he kind of yeah he did some weird stuff right he was like I'm gonna go to islands and drinking some juice and stuff but like when you see really rich people like that and they're dying you're like oh fuck

you know like I'm really you know we're really at a lot of trouble definitely but maybe this AI that's the one thing about AI they said though that that is interesting sorry I'm going to be an AI guy but they're like oh once that once AI starts revving up and getting good it's going to just Bing Bing Bing Bing

is going to figure out all the cures Oh God fuck I had great too It's been great it makes some good music too Listen, it's on the, it's on the, it's already fucking firing on all cylinders in the entertainment fields. No, I, I agree. Listen, it's going to destroy probably a million different things that we love in such a short period of time, which I, just as far as like entertainment and stuff like that and jobs maybe. But yeah, if it, God, I hope some fucking smart people who are good, like, get a hold of it and at least utilize it for positive reasons as well.

so it could save some lives. They're like, ladies and gentlemen, we have a big announcement to make. We have cured all cancers and all diseases. This, what's simply would put, this means like,

please, please enjoy McDonald's and Marlboro Lights. Wow. I know a guy who would be very excited. No consequences now for enjoying those two things. And congratulations. And if, you know,

every two years you have to come in and get a, you go through the, this machine that gets rid of everything where you take this bill or a shot. I would do it. I would listen to, they're like the trade-up is you can only watch AI. You can only listen to AI music. No, I'd be like, all right. I don't know.

Do we get the old music? Do we get the old music still? Oh, that's a good point, Chris. Yes. So here's the trade-off. No more. You can, of course, yes, you can listen to the Rolling Stones and everybody else. And you can have access to the, the,

the library of culture that's been created over the past 4,000 years. Yeah. And but new stuff. But nobody can make new stuff. No, you can't make new stuff. So what do the people do? Like you, Tim, you have some friends of yours that would be kind of, what would they do then in that situation, you know,

thinking of somebody like, I don't know, like, like a musician who's a, who makes their money that way. Uh, you know, it's UBI. It's time. It's time to just get, right. It's to get, get the month. dull and then work on painting and spending time with your family and smoking sags i always i wish i know this is the worst i know this is the worst french fries

yeah yeah but then you yeah and you would have to yeah i guess in this situation you're sort of like the french fries of this situation are quite cheap in the burgers and stuff so you don't really need the amount of money that you would have needed before yeah to live a happy life yeah i would take the mark of the beast in order to have that. Yeah. So I'm fine with that even. I don't know. I think, I mean, I listen, I do, I do, I have

great friends. I myself am an artist and a musician, musician and everything and a comedian and it would be terrible. But at the same time as a consumer, I think I'm full, I think I'm good with music. Like I have no need for new music.

Some of the music, I hear new It sounds pretty convincing. I don't know. Like, this isn't that, this isn't like when real people come out with music. I'm like, I don't know if I needed that. I really liked the new Blur album. I really enjoyed that. It's not that new now, but it's like the newest album they came up with.

Oh, yeah, I listened to that. I was good. I was like, did you listen to it again? Yeah, I listen to it quite often, actually. Barbarian, specifically the song Barbarian is one of my favorite songs. I'm listening to that like a lot right now. But, yeah, I mean. Listen, I'm just, Brian.

You know, I'm, of course, I'm exaggerating. And Brian, and Brian also, though, he's not engaging in this. And the reason, Tim, he's not engaging in this conversation, this bit or anything like that is because he, of course, as the listeners know, and they're all laughing right now, he, of course, got fooled by AI band to the point where he bought some of their merchandise. Really? It wasn't their merchandise. It wasn't even their merchandise. It was knockoff merchandise of an AI band that was a face. very early in the AI band thing.

It's excited. It must have sounded really good. It was great. It sounded perfect. He played it for us. It was like a doo-op like my balls are. It was like one of those. The only part I'm embarrassed about is that for some reason I found it funny when I

heard it. Like that part right there is like. It's so embarrassing. I swear he has a good sense. You like Brian obviously has a good sense of humor and stuff. No, I don't. That was a blind spot moment for him. It wasn't like an indictment on his personality or whatever, but it was like, I really could not believe that he, yeah, thought it sounded so good to him.

Because how often have you even done that with a band that you like that's a real band? I haven't done it with a band. Except for that one. That's what I mean. Like this band was then all of a sudden became your favorite band in the entire world. No. And it turns out it was a fake band that was, you know, just like, you know, goofing on the whole concept, really. guy goes as with any smoking risks go up with imbibing the stats show the risk to be minimal in a statistical sense in order for it to be zero for some it may be above average for others that's a weird way to describe it uh you may or may not be in a group that at the extremes of averages caveat mTOR and all of that so he's just saying like the way he's just explaining like the way averages work is like you still might not get it but you still might

well like yeah that's that's just kind of how it works in general yeah this guy goes probably painting with a broad this is a very cigar guy post here this is this is one that really displays them probably painting with a broad brush but i tend to look at people who enjoy fine cigars fine wine great coffee hot women fast cars exotic travel on the micrib sandwich to have a commonality they take calculated risks weigh the good and bad work as hard as they play general keep their vices to a certain level of moderation and are normally in the upper level of intellectuality. Is he saying that most of the people who like to make rib are known to be the smarter people in society? Is that what he's saying? They have an upper level of intellectuality.

Is this? Okay. I can't. Yeah, sometimes what you do have to wonder again, I'm a little bit skeptical sometimes of the post is real. I don't think this is fake. He goes, of course, there are exceptions to the rule plenty of athletes lighting up a cigar after a title guys celebrating monumental moments with a cigar and guys in their golden years enjoying cigar some applies to our sisters of the leaf they call themselves brothers of the leaf uh all around funner to be around you probably can find a healthier hobby at 18 still can save yourself so that guy he did he did say maybe don't start doing this yeah it's an older an older person's thing that it's kind of that guy's kind of saying this is what you do when you get older. It is more of an older person's thing. As we discussed in the

beginning, that kind of at the end of a long workday sitting on your, you know, leather chair, that's not something you do when you're 18. So when are you finding the time to smoke the cigar when you're 18 even, just with your buddies and your derby hat sitting around and nobody's enjoying it, basically. It definitely looks a lot better on an older fella than a kid. Yeah. It does. I think seeing, when you see like, a, like, I picture what I must have looked at, like the first time I smoked one when I was like a teenager, when you're like 15 or 16 years old and you're puffing on a cigar, you have to look so stupid. Oh, it's so dumb. Yeah, the kids, teenagers should be smoking cigarettes. That's,

well, I told you about the time I was smoking a cigarette at the mall and the guy, I was like 12, I was smoking a cigarette at the mall. And the guy was like, his kid was sitting there. there and he was like, don't look at him. He's not cool, which is false because I'm very cool. I made a mistake smoking when I was a teenager. I mean, many mistakes smoking. One was like I had a job as a bus boy at a diner family restaurant place. And I was eating my meal and smoking while I was eating my meal.

And the old, the old like haggard waitress. or somebody, you know, is just like, oh, honey, you do, you smoke after you eat. You don't eat during the meal, you know? It's like, explain to me like the rules of life, you know, but I'm like, oh, I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing here. I did the same thing. I, like, would get pancakes at this place and just sit and smoke while I'm eating them. Yeah.

And then, yeah, somebody was like, it's pretty gross. It's, yeah, they're like, you can't even taste the food. Like, what are you doing? And I was like, I don't know. I'm just busy smoking. Like, I just. I just want to be smoking all the time. I love these things.

But yeah, smoking, like, while you're eating is so rare. You'd like never see, you don't even see it in like movies to show a haggard guy, you know? Yeah, it's really a bad, it's really a crazy move. It's, yeah, I mean, because it makes it makes it hard to taste of even just smoking in general. But I would imagine, yeah, doing it well, you wouldn't, you actually wouldn't taste any of your meal at all. there'd be no way so i found this website called room 101 cigars dot com i'm going there right now you'll love it you'll you guys are going to love this they do descriptions of the cigar so the room one oh one farce that's the name of the cigar farce behold the first solo project from the kids at room

one oh one prepare to receive maximum pleasure overload as glorious flavors cascade over your palate, dittling your receptors in a fashion you cannot, they're not, you don't like the word dittling in there. Well, they're doing like they're trying to be, this is chive code at almost. I hate this. Yeah, they're doing, they're doing that. This is like people trying to be like young and hip cigar guys kind of, but also mixing in the sort of cigar kind of. Wait, farce as a room one-on-one and Matt Booth are back in business. Following a short exit from the cigar industry, room 101 is once again stepped up its game. And after the successful collabs with industry icons,

AJ Fernandez and Robert Caldwell on hit and run and the T launched its first solo project, Farse. And this is just the start. Then you click on the story. I'm sorry if you guys were already going over this, but this is a big story. I think this is, yeah, Brian's now going to tell us more specifically about Fars,

but I'm glad to hear that Matt Booth. I did not know that they left the industry. I wonder what kind of shady should happen. The guy that had to leave the cigar industry is probably doing some bad things. It goes, farce is a gorgeous and sophisticated, multi-country of origin blend, hand-built with pride in partnership with the artisans of William Ventura. So William Ventura, Tobacco Atelier in the Dominican Republic. Can I read you guys the top, you know, the menu items at the top of room, like for the website here? Yes, please.

You got home about cigars where to buy conspiracy and then contact. What do you think I'm going to click? I'm clicking right on. Oh, it says, sorry, we don't have any post at the moment. Man, I'll put it there, man. That's the conspiracy. So they have a section on just like to let you know that at some point we will be making some conspiracy posts on here. why not even or maybe this maybe the conspiracies got proven true maybe they had some up there but

they got proven true right and then so they removed them they were yeah they were now they're now just news stories that's really hard marce medoro farce medoro says look at me the visual of my decadent and oily rapper triggers a salivary response within your mouth hole a brilliant spring of neurotransmitters rushes from your midbrain and dives head first into your bloodstream at the second your eyes make contact with my succulent and inviting exterior get them out get them out of the industry again i want them back i want them back out of the industry also at the bottom of the page there's a surge in general warning but i'm curious about this because it's just one specific thing it's tobacco use increases the risk of infertility stillbirth and low birth weight i wonder if they're like

you have a menu options where you're like you got to put one of these up here okay mine says cigars are not a safe alternative to cigarettes. So I think it's a randomizer. Not a safe alternative. Oh, yeah. I see that. A safe alternative to cigarettes? So they're, what does that mean?

It means you shouldn't there, it's the same as cigarettes. Oh, okay. That's what they're trying to say. They're basically saying that it's, yeah, I mean, not the guys on cigar asylum. They were telling me recently. This guy goes, uh, that's, I had a neighbor once who was 95, smoked cigarettes around the clock, drank beer and was in great health. He would even walk down the hill to the grocery store.

and lug all his groceries back uphill. I'm sure we can all cite examples like this. I can't, by the way. Even George Burns, who had like 15 cigars every day and smoked for 70 years. I don't think he had 15 cigars every day. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, just because you saw him with a cigar and a stuff every time doesn't mean he was always smoking them. He just when he went on stage, he did it.

Yeah. He goes, on the other, this is a great. This is one of these guys. perfect on the other side of the coin I had a co-worker who was in perfect health ate only healthy foods went to the gym then tragically died a brain cancer yeah also had another co-worker who is in a perfect health went to the gym ate healthy then tragically died in a skiing accident sure so yep yeah there's some logic to all that you can't predict where you know you got to you can do everything right and

still get hit by a piano from the from above but I heard this interesting factoid and this probably pertains more to cigarettes than cigars but it was again this there's just somebody said i don't know if this is true but they're like when you smoke you know you're the risk of cancer increases it doesn't it's not an inevitability inevitability the risk of it you very well might not get cancer but the risk uh rises but emphysema is an inevitability. Yeah, you will get it. If you smoke enough for a long period of time.

You will get that if you smoke, you know, the frequency is enough and the time is enough. That will be the result. Yeah, I mean, that that would make, I know that that's like such a common thing to happen in smokers. And it would make sense. You just, just in like somebody who's like, yeah, managing to smoke enough cigarettes.

So either so many, like, 15 cigars a day or whatever or just for so long. So then that would mean George Burns had to have gotten it. I don't think he died of cancer, but I don't remember. Emphasema, he would have. No, he probably had emphysema. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if he's, but cigars, cigars might not, I mean, the cigars, because you're not inhaling,

maybe the emphysema risk is low. That's why they have to, I mean, that is probably, it's probably, I don't know how much better, but yeah, that's why they have to put the warning now I'm thinking of to say because I think probably a lot of the people smoking cigarettes are like, I'll get off, of cigarettes by smoking cigars. They do the same thing, but I think that has moved to vape. I think people who say they're going to get off cigarettes start vaping. Have you seen Billy Joel?

Have you seen Billy Joel with the vape cigar? No. Yeah. Absolutely. Because I looked up vape cigars because I never could get into vaping. Like I just like cigarettes so much that it was like it doesn't, it's not the same thing. And they can't make it taste and feel the same way. Right.

And it's, it has to be, it has to be more, just as unhealthy as cigarettes. It is so in the era where like, because there was that period of time where the doctor was like, you know, are you having trouble breathing? Smoke a couple of cigarettes and stuff like that. We're in that era where they're like, ah, vaping, it's safer than cigarettes, but haven't done a lot, enough studying to know if it's actually. And you're inhaling something. Like, I can't think of a thing. And again, if they made vitamin cigarettes or something like that, I would love that. That would be great.

But I can't think of anything that you inhale that could possibly be good for you. No, an inhaler. Yeah, an inhaler. Here's doomsayer off cigar room 101. It's the end of days is upon us. The nothing is barreling down on life. we know we stand in its path powerless oh they they all talk like the whiskey guys the whiskey guys all talk this way as well like they just have this certain way of speaking like yeah like they're just

like i'm a little bit more sophisticated of a of a person yeah he goes only but a stitch in time ago one might have funneled trundled down to mccarthy parkway and copped a crispy new set of identification to include but not limited to a birth certificate driver's license in the state of your choosing and social security card perhaps even a passport so that one might slip away to a foreign land that carried a light to non-existent hands in matters of extradition. This my dear tobacco files is no longer an option. In light of certain and final doom, I do not offer any solutions nor salvation. I offer you escapism in the form of a value premium cigar. Place gingerly into your suckhole, ignite and consume. Heat, heat, heat, heat, heat, heat, heat, heat. I was.

reading I couldn't because like I don't know how I ended up on this page I think somebody was talking about how poetic and very cool the things are but that it doesn't help me at all like this is on room 101 cigars yeah yeah they're there's cigar if they have a forum or the or this is this isn't a forum post this is like an actual this is a guy that I I'm trying to figure out because I like I just read you guys if you I am wondering if this is chat GPT and they said yeah i see this now so they they have like these little descriptions by their their different cigars and they're written this one at least appears to be written in in as if it's the cigar talking oh yes fars connecticut says i want i want to be in your mouth i am smooth creamy and delicious my secret weapon is his personality i'm sophisticated and filled with surprises now there are seven additional sentences here the cigar is like talking so horny to me it's crazy how the cigar is just like being so sexual i guess like wake up somewhere and have no idea how you got there but this is why i attract you taste

my adventure oh oh i don't i don't know if it because it doesn't have the the uh signpost of chat gbt it doesn't have like the the punctuation although a guy could have gone through and remove the weird punctuation that they have on chat gbt things because then the other ones are not like the first nicaragua says a medium bodied smoke with noticeable notes of earth spice coffee and cedar so the other ones are just normal and then there's the one is just like and i and i am the horny cigar and he's like he's like somehow become like and some of them are all caps some of these are all cap. You're looking at doomsayer, I see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The payback Maduro does just say fanciful delights await you. Come this way, friends, step inside. Maybe the guy that writes these was off one week and they're like, we're going to need a few descriptions. He's like, I don't fucking know what to do. I guess I'll just do something in all caps because then right after that you got payback Connecticut where it says, strap on your smoking boots and blaze up a Randy Connecticut

could shade cigar from the time band it's at room 101 so this is another horny cigar yeah strap on yeah these who so this is a cigar company that just sells cigars online is that what they do okay i got you know what the vibe i get from it is the same vibe i got from the playing card guys except for they're like way more expensive because like when we looked at the playing card guys they kind of had the same aesthetic and stuff like that, but the most expensive deck of playing cards is like $25. How much are these cigars? How much are these cigars? How much do they have the price on the site, which is, uh, that's not a good sign. Yeah. I mean, because this is just the site like for the cigars, you can go to a cigar lounge

and buy one. Oh, I see something. So they don't, they don't sell them online. They, they, they sell them to stores and then stores sell them. They have a list of all, they have a list of all the cigar shops that they that they work with so i have to get in there this guy asks a question that often guys ask your spouse i feel that this is a rarely asked question which by the way it's not at all for any hobby but as a new stogie smoker i have to say i'm appalled at how much my significant other dislikes my weekly smoke oh god sorry i just thought of how horrible this is on because the other ones it's like oh my husband isn't spending so much money on his guitars that's annoying but My husband is spending so much money on cigars and then he's coming up to me and being like,

oh, you want to kiss, honey? And he's like, you know, stinky ass fucking cigar smoke around all the time. Think about like the difference between that and like the vision I have of like Archie Bunker or there's this movie Scarecrow with Gene Hackman and Alpachev. Or these guys that just have like the cigar always in their mouth, like even when it's not lit. That's like another kind of guy where it's just like, that guy doesn't really exist anymore like the guy that's not a thing anyone does I don't think because it stinks too bad like it's one of those like I really think the smell has a lot to do it that that like as a society people started like cigarettes as well you don't see them smoked

very much because people are just kind of like they don't want you around anymore if you stink like that and I think if you're walking around with a stogie in your mouth everyone's just kind Like, I don't want to be anywhere near that person. Well, it's, yeah, it's the, it's, we talk about this with Lars for Metallica. It's like, this guy walks around with a fucking toothpick in his mouth all day. That's just a, you don't see anybody even using toothpicks anymore. No, really? I use toothpicks.

I like, like, like, those wooden tea tree toothpicks. Oh, yes. Those are nice. I'm talking like the ones at the, you know, when you go to the restaurant, you're like leaving and they have them on a thing. You're walking around with it all the way. in your mouth it's it's a very strange they make nicotine toothpicks now oh i wonder if that's what lars has yeah i wonder if that's why lars always has them now that would sort of might make sense because i don't you know it seems like he an old rock and roll guy could be an ex-moker what about

this whole thing where it feels like you like on the right especially like in the man fluncer world there does feel does feel like there's this uh health trend about nicotine where there's people doing zins like you see RFK Jr. where there's a Zen pack and there's like, you know, I've seen these videos where like a little bit of nicotine, like a controlled amount of nicotine is very good for your brain. But getting back to 50s health, I think is like in the 1950s, 40s, 50s kind of health when it was the post-COVID when it was the healthiest kind of time. It really does feel weird to, yeah, it feels like we kind of got past that. But I guess things do go in cycles and they like come back or whatever. But it feels like that.

one was you know we're like hey it was settled nicotine's kind of like bad and we should try to sort of push that out of society it feels like we kind of did it but you're right it is it's back it's back nicotine's back it settled it you think it settled science and then a guy I'll be I think I saw a guy on YouTube talking about how like it wakes your brain up it makes you smarter and quicker and like I get it's it is a stimulant yeah I mean nicotine I mean I think we should say like nicotine isn't inertly bad it's like caffeine it's like not great it's not it's not good for you but it's probably it's it's the other things in it's the but it's just really addictive that's the thing that about it right is that it's addictive yeah right and then and then

and then you and then they put it all those other horrible things so there's a thing that's addictive yeah this is like it's a thing that was settled when I was a kid I feel like but yeah it feels like um well I think it's like I think It is addictive, but I think what they did, the brilliant move they did, was convince everybody that it is more addictive than it is. And so the fear of quitting and the fear of stopping is more than the biological, physiological aspect of the addiction. Oh, they've already, you already feel like you've lost the battle. You're never going to, why even bother trying. Yeah. It's too hard to quit. It's too hard to quit. And it's easy to maintain without cigarettes now, too.

like when I quit I got super lucky like I was smoking I was smoking a cigarette one day walking it made me feel nauseous I threw the pack in the trash and haven't smoked since then which is crazy I've said before I smoked cigarettes when I was younger and like into my 20s and then I just stopped drinking and it was very easy to cut cigarettes out at that time when I was just like I'm not going to drink anymore and it was like so heavily associated with drinking so I was just like I guess I'll just get rid of that as well. well while I'm at it when I was on tour is when I smoked like when I was like away from my wife and we were out doing live shows it's so easy to like I would just stand out be like I don't know

what to do when I'm waiting to go on stage so I would just stand behind the place and smoke cigarettes all night and then go up and do the thing and then stand outside and smoke more they would taste so gross to me now though if I tried to do that I think like it's been so long since I smoked a cigarette that I remember even the time like when I would try to get back into that first one that you smoke it's like has this really horrible taste to it and it just like what are you holding there in your hand oh this is this is vape yeah same thing but it's it's weed babe it's a weed it's a weed i don't yeah i don't i don't uh vape nicotine or whatever well the guy goes i've tried all the tools she just won't get on board with it i'm an honest

person and guilt plays a large role in my life unfortunately i'm just curious is there anyone who has changed their partner's mind about smoking cigars It seems to be nearly impossible, not to get into your personal life or anything. Yeah, it really does feel like one of those ones that she's not going to change her mind on. You're not all of a sudden going to, like, show her if she thinks it's disgusting and awful, it's not going to be one day where she's just like, well, that one actually smells quite good. Could I have a little, a little puffer on that one? Like, it feels like it's over.

There is a guy in here that says something like, I can't find him now. but uh this guy says from my experience persist and she'll get over it my wife told me cigars equals no sex because of the smell on my breath and beard i went for a while not smoking then she was around when she was around to keep sex options open it didn't happen all that much anyway now i smoke one every day and just let her get hornier refer to the kipling poem oh yes i bet she's just trembling with horniness as you smoke your disgusting stowgies in the backyard. He was just kind of waiting around. He goes,

my wife, this guy says my wife once used to hate it and now she tolerates it. Once she saw I kept it in moderation. I probably spoke two to four times a week and it wouldn't take time away from her. I only smoke when she isn't home on nights where she's tired and we really don't have something to do together. She started tolerating it more. I only smoke outside and I always sheds.

hour after and put my smoking clothes in a washing machine to be washed with the next one. What a life. After a few months, she started complaining less and even bought me a humidor and some sticks for Christmas. She sees now that it's a hobby, not a habit, and supports it. Well, yeah. What is a humidor again? Like, I always get confused about that.

It's like a drawer. Yeah, it's like a, or a drawer or you can, because they call them Tupper doors. Tupper doors where you can use a Tupperware to do it, but like you somehow manage to keep it at a temperature and then moist in the room. Yeah. Oh, because it can't dry out, right? That's the worst thing that can happen to a stick is if it dries out. But it's not a, like it's, there are obviously rooms that are built to be humidors, but people like a, this guy just has like a little box to put a cigar in. Yeah. Yeah. Or there's like a thing that looks like a one of those bedroom, uh, one of those refrigerators

they have at hotels that are like. Oh, yeah, like a mini-fridge, but a clear windowed one. Yeah, I have seen those. I've seen those for sure. Yeah, for sure. This guy says, my wife is not a fan, but she's come a long way since I started. From trying to discourage me from ever doing it to suggest I have a stick after a rough work day, a significant process.

She hates the smell, but we'll tolerate it more now. Suggesting I have a, sorry, suggesting I have a stick after how that, how that conversation goes it's like he is like enraged like smashing things around like honey honey why don't you why don't you have a stick why don't you settle down and have a stick you know like that's how I'm imagining it yeah it is uh so many of these guys say like uh one of the guys I can't find him now

but he said that his wife he's like I find it disgusting that my wife watches television so he's like I don't like TV so I go smoke cigars and I'm like that's a that's a totally different fucking thing than that but like you can see them attacking because that's what will happen a lot of times even with like the guitar guys and stuff like that they're just immediately like you can't tell me what to do like it's super defensive super they get really defensive and start like attack and like well you buy this this and this handbags and hair straightensers and all of this stuff so like you know

just tell her that tell her that if she tries to say anything about it it's like this incredible defensiveness because i think a lot of them know that like hey this is a pretty selfish way to spend the family's money uh and in some cases maybe money that needs to go elsewhere and they have this guilt about it right yeah yeah i mean and if i don't i think like cigars is a very like it like you said it's smelly oh and like the process of getting the smell to a place where you can then sit next to somebody that you're married to yeah is is really a weird like thing like it's cigars are such it's unique it's unique in that way that it's like not just a hobby that like

drains the wallet it's like really sort of invasive in someone else's life if you live with a cigar smoker who's like obsessed with it you're just constantly smelling that shit all the time and if you don't like it it's must fucking suck which this guy an ohio brethren says wife doesn't know or at least i don't think she does i don't smoke this she knows this guy is like a teenager like a teenager being like yeah my mom was like didn't even know I was fucking smoking weed or drunk or anything

like yeah I shower immediately after and change clothes also only smoke outside crafted a small ventilation system just for me or when golfing or fishing just building a ventilation system I could see actually you know you bring up something I don't really

golf I mean I have golfed in the past but I could see a golf and a cigar seems like a nice pairing. That's a huge thing that happens. If you ever go, I do golf sometimes. And when you're out on the golf course, you'll see a lot of cigars. And yeah, you're outside then. It's a good place to do it for sure.

Hey, can I share a quick cigar story that just happened to me? And I do, I'm sorry, I do have to run. Oh, no problem. Yeah. Just because it just happened and I would love your take on it. But I just did this movie down in Arkansas. saw. And it was a good experience. Everybody was very nice. The producers were very nice, but they were fairly young and kind of inexperienced, I think. And at the last, so it was a horror

movie, and we were shooting almost entirely nights. So we'd shoot from like six to six in the morning. And my last day went from, it was like a Monday night, 6 p.m. till 6 a.m. And then I had to get home because I was doing something else. And I had a flight book. for like two o'clock in the afternoon that that day so rapping at 6 a.m and as I'm like an hour before I'm about to wrap the producer came up and he's like hey we wanted to give you a little something you know oftentimes you get a little gift or something so I get this gift box and it's a now I I've already packed you know I've already like my suitcase is packed it's back in the hotel my plan is like go home to the hotel sleep for like three hours and then get up and go to the airport and get home

and he gives me a bottle of mckellan scotch in the box not even not even pappy and a t-shirt uh like a like a nice um water container thing like a and you know like a yeti or something like that and a loose cigar, just one cigar. They're expensive. You buy a whole box of them for everybody. They probably got one box and they divvied it up for the cast, right? They got one box and they gave each of you one cigar. Like, should we get each cast member of box?

And I don't, I mean, it was just so, like, I appreciated it, of course. And I thanked him profusely and, you know, you don't, oh, you don't. And also, you don't have to, you're paying me to be here. Like, you don't need gifts, you know, like. Yeah. I don't like getting, I don't love, I don't like getting gifts because it's like, usually I don't want the thing you're giving me, you know, and, but it's, it's a nice problem to have, whatever. I know. You can people rolling their eyes. But the main thing was, it's like, well, the main thing was just like, I don't know what to do with this cigar. I don't know what to do with this bottle of scotch. Because like, I don't want to pack it in my suitcase because I'm worried it's going to bust open and get, yeah, scotch all over all my clothes. And I don't want to, I don't know. Everything was packed already. ready and tight. It was all where it's supposed to be. And I gave the cigar to a PA as I was leaving. I'm like, do you want this dude? I don't really smoke cigars. He's so, sure, yeah, thanks. And then I gave the scotch to the hotel. I gave it, I left it with a note and, you know,

for as along with my tip. I was just like, hope you can enjoy this bottle of scotch. That's kind of nice. That's a, that is a nice gift to leave for a hotel staff who presumably do, they live in the area. They're, you know what I mean? Yeah. But when you're just going to bring it home. you're traveling it's like yeah don't give people gifts when they're when they're traveling because it's like you you've already got all this crap with you and it's too hard but there was a period of my life where I think there was more Christmas gifts exchanged amongst friends and like like maybe when I was a little more active in like TV and production and stuff there would be like gifts it felt like I don't know it has it's kind of gone away for whatever reason but there was a period of time

where I would like get a bottle of scotch for around Christmas from some ad agency or a network or something. And I just, I just have all these bottles of scotch that have no interest in ever doing anything with. So that was the other thing. I looked at this bottle like, eh, I don't know. What am I? Where is this going to go? Yeah. I got to put it with my other non-dinking scotch. Yeah. You just hope somebody comes over where you're like, hey, do you like Scott? Yeah. It's not even. A pint glass full of scotch. would you like some of my metallic a scotch they put it up against the barrel they played metallic up against the barrels we learned about that there's metallic a scotch where they played just before you do you're running right now tim it is very very important contractually for me just to mention before you go that Brian when he was younger had a chance he was hooking up with a girl no hey come on man instead of having sex with her he just sucked on her boobs for three hours straight so yeah that's the safe that's just you know that's the those are the the back in the good old AIDS days and

You know, everyone was worried about AIDS. And that seems like the smart move. Hey, Tim, I appreciate that. People I respect. I tell any time we have a bigger guest on the show, I always bring up that story. And I'll tell you what, I want to give you credit for you're the first person who has brought up the AIDS. Hey, thanks so much for coming on. I appreciate you a lot.

Good chatting with you. Talk to you later. Bye. Chris, we can't end after an hour. Yeah, we're, Tim, obviously, he could only. only do an hour but we we know y'all you all would not accept a one hour episode and quite frankly we have more posts to read so it would probably make tim look like if we just finished in that because yeah when you do an hour 20 minutes and an hour whatever and then it just ends people like

why they only do an hour yeah they see on that but i we knew beforehand obviously tim is uh pretty busy and has a lot of stuff that he's doing and you know he was we were able to get an hour to do it and even stayed a little bit longer than an hour but yeah we're very grateful for that but we also yeah we want to give you a full length episode also uh let's read a few more of these spouse things uh this guy goes you know what made me laugh by the way for you guys couldn't hear this because you couldn't see this you can because you're only listening this isn't a video like like the bonus is that when tim when i said tim have you ever smoked cigars are you a big cigar guy and he said yeah i'm a big cigar guy collect cigars i did see a look on brian's face kind of go

oh no like thinking for a second that he wasn't joking around because he does that he does that so well and he does that so well like we had picked him because we thought he would have a good time we had picked it for him because we thought he would have a good time goofing on which he did obviously but yeah he when he did that bit in the beginning and said he was a cigar guy who had all kinds of different cigars there was a look on brian's face just like i saw it for one second where he was just like oh no oh no he helly mx says i don't think it's give up one or the other there's lots of things my wife and i don't like that the other does do we just give up our passions no do we give it up on do we give up on each other no marriage is often about compromise i

compromised i gave up cigarettes to continue smoking cigars these guys man i mean i get but is he just smoking cigars all the time because if he's a cigarette smoker who's now put cigars in there he's probably smoking the little cigars or whatever he's probably just smoking them constantly if you're in our cigars you're not smoking the cigaros for sure you're smoking so this guy's smoking big old fucking cigars yeah you like that's the thing

it's like I'm gonna get you Chris and I'll make this the picture for the episode too I'm gonna show you this guy's cigar that that I found a picture of and then said it was the same size

as my penis so here we go and it is kind of pretty close to the size of your penis to the size of my penis yeah it's getting there it's not quite there I can't see it still.

Oh, there it is. It's so skinny. It's absurd. Your penis is long and skinny. No, my penis is fatter than that. Okay, so you're, because I would not want to have sex with somebody who has a penis like that. Again, that's, we've discussed this, I think.

It's huge. It's so long and so skinny. Yeah, this is, so this is a, this is a camping cigar that the guy bought for his camping trip yeah yeah he's just gonna leave it lit like like in the forest it's like having an incense it's like smoking incense uh yeah he sets it up on like a post so it's just like smoking in the center of the camp the entire time so even when he's not smoking it they you get to still smell that delicious cigar cigar smell because i gave up he goes we looked at the issue logically and came to a compromise if something you enjoy isn't hurting you or anyone

else there should be some sort of middle ground got replies and goes right i deplore television she has like 16 weekly shows we only have cable because of her so the deal is i get equal amounts of way time 90% of that is in the garage where i smoke and do internet stuff i'm in the garage doing my internet stuff yeah i'm just on my tour browser is smoking cigars in the fucking garage what it just sounds so like oh man i'm just picturing that scene of him he's smoking these things inside yes any smoking shit inside man oh i don't know what about i like this guy a guy that is i don't know i don't know i don't know if he's misjudging his wife i'm just saying goes i taught my wife about it and made it all and it made all the difference i got her familiar with brands names of cigars i like

types of tobaccos and now it's kind of a quiz when i smoke i'll ask who makes who make the dirty rat that I'm smoking or I'll ask her why Legerro is stronger and stuff like that. Hmm. So, and I would imagine his wife is what, how do you think she's like totally into it on the same level? If you don't smoke cigars, why would you give a fucking shit? It's just one of those things where she's like, yes, honey, it's a Legerro and it's a pretty strong cigar and it's got notes of pepper you don't think this is a good way of getting your wife involved in something i mean not a way to solve the problem i would say it's not a way i just like for me it's like you're either going to do it or you're not you don't have to quiz your wife on it like the

quizzing part is the part that i know more annoying now you've just made it more annoying for her she's like putting up with your shit and now she has these like Yeah, but who knows? We don't know. Maybe she does. Maybe she wants, like, she just wants to have a connection with her partner, right? Like an older couple. And then she's just like, oh, I just want to have stuff to talk about with you.

And, yeah, I'll learn about your stuff. Like, people do that with other stuff. I bet you, again, I bet you wish that you pick something doesn't stink so bad. Yeah. My significant other is not the biggest cigar fan, but she sees how happy I am when I'm smoking a stick. So she puts up with it. I always buy her a sixer of cider when I know I want. want to sit out and have a cigar this keeps her busy while i smoke just i'm sorry it feels like

a child hey you know i get her some cider she it keeps her busy while i'm smoking you know uh he goes uh six pack a cider i mean that's like just for one individual it's not tons of booze but it's like a deep you're getting drunk for sure maybe i don't know if you're getting drunk like oh, you're getting drunk. Yeah, I guess it depends on how quick, I guess it depends on how much you drink. Because if you drink tons and tons, and then maybe that day you have a huge tolerance.

But I think for most people, if they drank six siders, they would get drunk. So it's like, it's not a small amount of booze. No. No. So, yeah, keeps her busy, keeps her busy.

So she's drinking, watching her shows or whatever, and you're off smoking sticks in the garage. That sounds like a, Sounds like a pretty decent loveless marriage. Let's go back to Cigar or Room 101 and read a few reviews or things. 12th anniversary. This is the Room 101 12th anniversary, Chris.

To our family and friends who have supported us over the last 12 years, I want to say thank you. I'm both honored and humble by your belief in support of our brand. Oh, this is a real one. Fuck this. I don't want that. so they're being nice to their friends and family it seems like it just it's probably one of those classic posts like when you've done financial crimes and you're like i just want to thank everyone who's stuck behind us i don't want to say that the that they did financial crimes because i don't

know anything about it but it just seems like the way they're like we left the industry and they just i don't know the way they talk well let's uh let's knock this out we have one more thing I wanted to look at and it's uh it's uh if you don't finish a gar a cigar in one go how do you put it out and store it so we talked about this yeah this would be important to me because again these things are gigantic you don't have time i well how could and and it wouldn't it make you sick like that's why i'm saying man it's like smoking 20 cigarettes it's like but you got to have like if you have some peanut m&Ms or a coke there then but what and what are you do so this is again a golf a golf game is a good time because you're smoking over four

you play that takes you four hours to golf does so you yeah okay I didn't think it took that long I thought it was more of an hour and a half game no no no no no it's a lot that's how long foot mini golf is probably not yeah yeah yeah yeah five minutes yeah it's much different it's I mean have you ever played a real round of like 18 holes of golf I gave up I worked at a golf course once and me and the boys went and tried to golf on a Monday while the course was closed we were allowed to do it and oh god i can just i just picture you fucking idiots out there with your law with your janko jeans out there just like you're picturing correctly oh yeah and just like so bad at it yeah and so like destructive of the the area around you and where you guys

guys what um how many holes did you make it i think like four we were all hitting grounders and we're like this is stupid let's go do something else yeah you know what i mean like if the ball doesn't go way up in the air if you're like i'm not even getting this at all like i'm nowhere near this you know so you would hit it and it would like skip across the ground and like damn that's a long way to the hole from even there you know and it just was taken so long we're like you know what this isn't for us but i always assume when guys play it they know how to play it you know they get through that about an hour and a half no it takes a long time and especially like if you're playing you're going to get held up behind other people too

you're going to have to wait for them to take their shots it can take it can take a long time it can take like five hours to play around the golf it's ridiculous i don't like anything i don't like to do anything for five hours at all yeah it's a stupid game it's a stupid game golf no doubt about It's like fun to play every now and then with your friends, but it is like a frisbee golf. Frolf, they call it. Yeah, I'm familiar. It's a good game. If you don't finish a cigar a one go, how do you put it out in store it?

My solution has been to spit on the end of it. Hey, that's my lady's solution too, if you don't want to mean. Get it? Solution to what? Dry penis. my solution to dry penis honey uh yeah i'm dealing with uh dp again you think you think uh doctor my wife could come in and uh spit on that thing uh spin on that thing yeah you you are you were you just sent me that ock to it thing i had to explain to you that it's like it's hard it's like an older meme you're

Like, have you seen this hog, too? Oh, it's funny. Hock to us. Remember when what's his name did it? Greasman did it? Oh, man, I'm just scrolling through trying to find it as quickly as I can, you know? Yeah, you got too many things on that soundboard. Spill night thing.

You know, spit on my phone. When I smoke it again, it's different but not terrible. I usually burn off the front centimeter or so that has my spit. so this guy is actually spitting on the end of his cigar and then burning the spit off no cutting it off i think oh he cuts off the spit yeah this guy goes i put it out and throw it away unless it's a short break like going to brew coffee pouring another glass of bourbon or a medium break like taking a shit damn it'd take him longer to take a shit than it does to brew coffee yeah i mean listen also that doesn't necessarily have to be a break no get you get yourself a man's

bathroom and your man cave downstairs get the men's bathroom at my house i've got a men's room at my house where i could smoke my stick at any time i fucking want yeah because i would be horrible if you put a men's room at your house because like that's one of the arguments that everybody has about you know public restrooms just being all gender or whatever it's like well you don't have a a gendered bathroom at your house and a guy's like i do i smoke i got i got a men i got a playboys in there's there's penthouse magazine and playboys and my wife ain't allowed in there yeah she comes in there i got all the playboys and all the cigars you could ever want uh my wife's grandfather and i used to smoke together and if he didn't finish it he'd let it go out then put it in a

shoe and leave it outside swears it tasted exactly the same the next day i never tested this method he was born and raised in the mountain of east tennessee so who knows what goes on in those parts so he's like say yeah oh just to be clear of this he was a mountain person yeah so he was so stupid that he put the cigar in his dirty shoe yeah just in case you're wondering why he did this really stupid thing he goes out of this guy goes out of curiosity where his shoes all all leather, which is a funny question. If you're going to store your cigars in your shoe, make sure you have a leather shoe. Well, this guy's kind of asking like, oh, hang on, I have heard this.

Can I ask you, was it by chance of all leather shoe? Like, this is some other dumb fuck who's also heard this? He goes, maybe in his younger years in the mountains, but recently they were just new balance. So he's putting his cigar in a fair of new balance. of a fair of 550s just like it's sticking it in there that's uh yeah that's really cool because that is funny it does sort of seem like it might make sense if it was like in some old leather shoe it's obviously stupid either way but putting it into it just a running shoe well the guy that asked said there's no way i'd put them in tennis shoes but my all leather cowboy boots

still smell only of leather even after a lot of wear so that might actually work get a little leather on that cigar so i guess that's that's a note that you taste in cigars is leather maybe that's what they're saying yeah and then smoky pyro says don't save cigars one day someone's going to come across one and put it back in your humid or trying to help ruining everything in there if you can't finish smoke a smaller cigar oh that is that if you can't finish smoke a smaller cigar is a way to end the show i mean what about what about if the if this so what those big giant cigars those like huge big cigars those are meant to be smoked just in one sitting yeah yeah that's like isn't that just so much so much smoke and to that's why you're not inhaling it yeah yeah you're not

you're not inhaling it but again i oh in our mind i think that's what makes it safe to them that they're not inhaling it but it is true that you are putting it in your mouth and uh uh you know what i'm saying right put it in your mouth you know you're acting like this because put it in your mouth and suck it tim's left now and it's like you feel you felt like you be funny i mean that's a horrible that's a horrible thing to say i mean now i can be funny no i I mean, I know what you're saying, because you feel like you, you obviously wouldn't want to do your sexual thing. You wouldn't put your tongue between your fingers. I didn't do that.

But I'm just saying you wouldn't do your famous sexual things like, you wouldn't do your sexual things in front of him because you'd be embarrassed to do them. That's interesting. But yet, yeah, as soon as he's gone, then all of a sudden you're just like, oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm like, right? I also have that on here, but, oh, wait, ho, huh. Might have been funny if you did that to Tim. It can't happen now because it's a different soundboard. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So finally, let's just read a couple more of this, the guy asking about health because I really enjoyed that. this guy goes so the young man asking if cigars will fuck your health up from earlier in the show i had a few more posts from that he goes yes it's harmful to you sort of cigarettes and booze but you know what they taste great you only live once don't miss out on anything you want to do you don't get a second chance to do it all over again but you can get more time to do it it's not a second chance but it kind of is, if you're talking about somebody who's doing all this stuff that kills them at the age of 50 versus somebody who lives to 90, that it almost is like a second chance. Yeah, and it goes two a week isn't a problem, although if you do get cancer, there isn't too much proof that cigars did it.

There's always stories of that 95-year-old four-pack-a-day smoker in perfect health. You really need to decide this one for yourself. All of us can only give you the go for it because we do. It's enjoyable. And if I do get mouth cancer, so be it. Yeah, it's like you just got to figure it up for yourself. There's the like anecdotal evidence that, from old wives tales or the, you know, millions of fucking academic papers proving that it's actually super, super bad for you and very harmful for your health. You just really have to just, you have to take both of the sides and decide for yourself.

yeah both sides have some good things and he goes you got to both we got to be both sides saying you got a cigarette issue no doubt he goes edit frankly having sex has its own set of risks you take that risk because does anyone really want to be a virgin forever i don't think so just saying life is a risk yeah yeah yeah yeah it's true i mean have you ever i was gonna say but it's sex is like this incredible feeling but then i remember the feeling of the first time pappy hit my lips while i was smoking a big fat uh cuban cigar seven hundred fifty thousand dollars stick when i was puffing when i was pufferating on my big stick when i was pufferating on my big stick and imbibing on my pappy van winkle nineteen seventy eight uh whiskey i thought to myself

man I really am a fucking I really am the man yep I still think about myself with that I think about myself with that cigar in my mouth

with the derby hat on standing outside just making myself fucking sick and then a guy stepped on my derby hat and I was like I should fuck you up but he would have beat me up but I said it anyway

just because it was like you were so sick you're feeling so physically sick and angry you know you fucked up the you know you fucked up the whole like bachelor party I did I did because I bought all this stuff that like because they were like no strip clubs so he couldn't go to a strip club so I had to and again I wasn't even the best man I was just another guy I'm sure Aaron was the best man wait no Aaron was not my friend at this time he was not

the best man it was somebody else that somebody close to me was like oh I'm going to get married and I was like they were like we'd rather have Brian throw the party which that makes perfect fucking sense because I am a party animal

yeah so and but then you kind of blew it with the cigar in that moment you feeling like I'm blowing it with the cigars and then that guy steps on your derby hat why was your derby hat on the ground it fell off my head because they don't have like a they don't stay in your head like a fitted hat you know what I mean and I don't think it fit me I don't know how it's supposed to

feel on your head if it fits you so so it fell off of your head on to the ground he might have slapped it and then he might have slapped the thing and it fell on I hated the guy so much which one of your bullies was this it wasn't one of my bully and I didn't have bullies but what was one of my friends what was his name he was another person at the party what was his name though i don't what it was his name i don't remember he's like my brother he's like a long lost guy like he was horrible he's a long lost guy he's a long lost guy he was horrible and he was married to i've never heard him a long lost brother or a long lost

He just never seen him somebody was just a long lost guy Long lost guy He was married to somebody who was tangentially related to me And he was like

Because it was my brother's wedding He had no family He was just a long lost guy He was Kind of But yeah We We

which I don't drink and don't like and didn't drink at the time. Like I don't drink. So I bought a bunch of cigars and I was like, let's go to a steakhouse, have a real man's dinner. So I went and bought myself like a button up shirt and a derby hat. And I, you know, kind of wore my jeans. And I don't remember what the button up shirt was, but I wore that all out.

And I should have, when I got back to the apartment because everybody was so drunk, I probably should have put my fedora on instead of, the derby because the fedora stayed on my head a little bit better and it was still classy um so yeah that sort of a casual like that sort of business casual yeah again derbies don't say on your head i i don't i've said that about cowboy hats too i've been like i've been saying i've been saying it for years i i would love to get a cowboy hat i just don't know how they fit and now i'm like buddy get a cowboy hat and i honestly like i'm not saying this like i'm not saying this because I think it would be the funniest thing ever if you showed up on a

guy's plus episode wearing a big cowboy hat I'm saying it because I honestly think you would look fantastic at a cowboy hat I think if you want to wear one you should definitely get one man I got to get the most expensive I got to get a $600 cowboy hat can you imagine though if we got to stop we got to stop talking about it now and then just one day take the plunge man and get the cowboy hat and then just wear it on an episode or a stream just go for it man if that's what you like who you want to be

then just you got to go for it I'll support it I want to be a cowboy baby I definitely want to have cowboy vibes you're serious when you say you want to buy a cowboy head I know that that's not a joke because you also like cowboy vibe yeah you have when you dress up right

we've discussed that before when you dress up you wear you go with cowboy formal yeah i put on a cowboy shirt and then i have uh jeans i have raw denim levies raw denim and yeah i have a pair of uh redwing iron ranger boots and i the only i think weak part of my game is that is the fitted hat like the fitted new era looks a little weird with the rest of that outfit yeah i mean you but then i can't really take it off because my head looks absurd like it's because you wear it all the time because so you wear the hat all the time so you're all tanned and then you're it's a summertime and your head is not so what you need to do is get that head out tan that head i don't want to do that first of all it would require seasoning what you got to season

yourself like the first time you get your head sunburned you're like oh i don't think i want to deal with having a sunburned head ever again oh yeah you got to get it sunburned i guess it won't just it won't just tan nicely thank you yes but it would be cool you'd look cool as hell you would look cool as hell i think yeah i think here's the thing i think you're just saying that because you think i should go buy a cowboy hat so you can make oh oh that part Absolutely. No, no, I mean, you would look cool if you had a tanned head, like, your head shape is good. Your head shape is good. So if you're tanned your head, then you're just like, hey, you have a beard and then the bald tan head. I honestly think that it would look good. Like your aesthetic would look good. It just feels weird having my head out. Of course. It's been like two decades at this point where it's like, I've been wearing, well, not two decades. Because I started wearing knees probably in like 20, 17. And before that, I was wearing all kinds of messed up hats. I think you should wear a cowboy hat. I honestly

do think that you don't have to wear it on the stream or whatever, but you should get yourself a cowboy. But what? Why do you like a cowboy? Because I know you're making fun of me. Whoa. Who fucking cares anyways? I live like in Canada. It doesn't even matter. And I make fun of like most everything. It's like. But no, I honestly, think if you want to get a cowboy i'm just curious what like why that aesthetic where did you pick up that aesthetic because you obviously did not grow up i think cowboys are cool and no i didn't grow up where cowboys were no of course like i i i went to kansas a couple times and my stepdad had a cowboy that's right this is the other hat i used to wear that's right one of those the shay gavara

like yeah i went to shay gavara hat for a period of time and yeah that also also also now is embarrassing to me. It's like just to get a cool minor league baseball team hat. Just in on Google, just putting in cool cowboy hat and just like, I feel like it don't, you just don't want to get a big one. You don't want to get one that's too big, I think, or flashy. If you just get like a like a low key one, I think like if I, because I want to dress, I'll show you what I want to dress like.

Like I'll show you what I wish I looked like. now okay i'll go ahead and i'm interested in this you guys won't won't see this but i'll describe it this is the style that i'm trying to get okay so it's a denim shirt it's cool first off it's like it's the guy's very like a real handsome jizzled jaw kind of guy just like me look at this guy there's a guy right there so you want to look i mean this is a full-on cowboy with like a belt buckle and a cowboy hat and so you you like that look do you do a lot of people dress like that around where you live or would you kind of yeah I don't live in the south at all if you yeah I know but if you walked around like that if you suddenly started walking around like

that do you think it would be like uh it might make the news or something or might I don't think it yeah the guy that wanders around town all the time you know the guy who wanders are just in a lot So local wanderer is a cowboy now. The headline in the local news, local wandering man is now a cowboy. I am. I want to be one, but I can't.

You know, it's just not, I don't look like one. I don't dress. That's just if I had to go to a fancy event. I understand. I would rather wear clothes that kind of look like a cowboy wear. or something then then wear like whatever a suit i wear a suit i would i would

wear a suit yeah i don't own a suit and i'll never own a suit i have a bunch of cowboy shirts and some really cool jeans and i think i show up again i should get a hat but i'm not going to you got man i i did it i did it with the derby i did it with the fedora and i just know that it buddy when you come when you come when you come here we'll go we'll go cowboy hat shopping we'll send it back home to you honestly when you're here cowboy we'll go cowboy hat shopping why not we'll go we'll go we'll go find a good cowboy hat in fact i don't know man fucking cowboy vibes at the corn show could be a pretty cool that's not going to work either i mean you imagine you they do a live stream of the show and you're fucking you know you're rail riding and they're like holy shit

Who's the lonesome cowboy? You know, they start calling you the lonesome cow. Come on. All right, we're going to get out of here. I'm not going to be a cowboy. Hey, if you like this and you want to hear more, uh, more of being Chris just fucking around, guys plus on the Patreon. Patreon.

Patreon.com. So, guys podcast. We usually do like two hours. Yeah, we usually do two hours. We talk about different guys. Like, we'll talk about cigar guys now definitely because they are. They were kind of what I was expecting, which is, yeah, those real insufferable classical male kind of guys. As Tim said, the beginning of the episode, I think it really is a lot of guys who have, much like you with the cowboy thing, you know, you've like seen it somewhere.

Yeah, but you've seen that aesthetic somewhere where you're just kind of like, this is something that a classical man, a real manly man, a rugged kind of guy. This is how they act. and I don't know yeah how many of them actually enjoy them because to me it's a pretty unpleasant experience I really I think most people think physically it's an unpleasant experience but yeah they they power through it you know you get some candy you know yep you get a candy and a coke and you're set and yeah we'll talk about cigar what the rule for guys plus is that well there's two rules first we have to read Mike zero his headlines his entertainment news so if you're needing entertainment news that's also a good reason but then

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