Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 134 - Feet Guys (PG) with Branson

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

This week on Guys we had Branson from The E1 Podcast to talk about a different type of foot guy. What sort of loopholes can you usew to go to a concert barefoot? How do you get your feet clean? How do... you become a foot lawyer? Is it important to be grounded?  There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

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Starting point is 00:00:00 welcome to guys a podcast about guys i am your shod host brian my unshawed co-host chris james hi chris i don't even know what the episode is barefoot oh barefoot is legal guys okay i see we're calling it feet guys pg oh because we did feet we did feet we did we definitely did that and it was not pleasant uh and people did not like it yeah i mean it it was it was an unpopular episode people found it to be disgusting more disgusting than sex guys fart guys it was yeah for me it was one of the more disgusting ones, but, uh, this one, this one's much more kind of funny and silly, right? No.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Our guests this week to talk about these weird guys is Branson. Hi, Branson. What's up? Hey, guys. You're going to love. You guys are going to love these guys. I'm going to tell you what. They, they, they have a really cool beliefs about the law that are nice, um, some very cool scientific beliefs i see so they're they're libertarian they're about like are they a lot of libertarians i want to start like can i just start it with this real quick lebron this is the first post i found this is what maybe decided to do this it is a post in barefoot running and it says lebron james
Starting point is 00:01:47 wearing toe shoes and latest instagram post picture of lebron james he's wearing toe shoes no fucking way first guy goes this is probably the highest profile athlete i've seen wearing this style of shoe the shoes aren't the focus of the post but i think stuff like this can really move the needle on general acceptance of minimal minimal slash anatomical footwear that seems normal right well but isn't like people people are wearing sandals lebron james's feet look like oh have you seen him oh he's got notoriously fucked up feet it's that's what these guys keep saying i had no idea these guys are like you first said that like he got his toes into like one of those slipper things i
Starting point is 00:02:35 thought no fucking way because if you see a picture he's been wearing basketball shoes for 30 years as tight as he can and he's got like like bound feet he's got like fucked up crunched up overlapping toes like i'm amazed that the shoe the fact that he these shoes could even straighten out his feet. I might be a little bit of a believer just from hearing that they were able to handle his feet. Like, are you familiar with Tori Holtz fingers, the NFL wide receiver who his fingers just go every direction now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just like that. I've, I, I feel like maybe he's so rich and influential, though, that he could have like real specialty made ones. You can't fix them, Chris. You can't, there's no fixing, right? Like, that's what they're all saying. The guy's like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:25 I can't think of a person who could benefit from them more than him. Like these barefoot guys, I didn't realize this until I started. These guys know everything about LeBron James's feet. And they're often talking about LeBron James's feet. I'm so confused then. So these things that he's wearing are meant to fix his feet. To shoes. Have you ever seen the toes shoes?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, I've seen them before. But I didn't know, I didn't know they served any purpose other than to look cool as hell. Like I thought that the whole purpose was just to be the coolest guy on the blonde. So you're saying that they actually have like a, like a purpose to help your feet. Is that what you're saying? I was like living in Logan Square in Chicago when I first saw like toe shoes. And I thought they were like, oh, I looked at those and I thought in my head, that's obviously a free running thing. That's obviously guys who are jumping over buildings or something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I couldn't justify it. So for the first six months I saw them, I assumed everyone who was wearing them was like free runners. And that was completely incorrect, I learned later. And so you were thinking of them as being the coolest guys. you were thinking like somebody who's like an urban warrior he's jumping up a bill of me he's like spider man he's like spider man he's kind of like spider man in fact they're doing the opposite of that they spend most of the day laying down i see but i've not i see i don't know that i've seen them a lot i live in vancouver up and i don't know if we have them as much in canada maybe i'm sure we do but i've never i don't know if i've ever encountered them in the wild now i'm just curious if we're going to get are we brian you Brian is just on his phone can you imagine bringing people on to your podcast and then it must have been really important that's all
Starting point is 00:04:59 I'm done it must have been so important Branson it is yeah oh it's been going on for two days and it's just ended it's actually been going on for like it's been it's now invading my fucking life Branson because the last like three recordings or something that we've done he's like completely preoccupied with this thing
Starting point is 00:05:16 that's just sending money to his daughter that's all that it is it's almost like this podcast is a nice living room and he's walking barefoot all over it. Let me just say this. It's fixed and we're all done now. Unfortunately for Chris, this is the last episode we record for like a week and a half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So I don't, so he's managed to square it all the way right before he goes on vacation. He's managed to. How convenience for you, Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a vacation that I don't all, I don't get to go on, by the way. I will continue to work because Francis, I don't want to spoil I have to like edit the episodes and do
Starting point is 00:05:59 that side of thing. So we just record all of them ahead of time and then he goes on a vacation. You're sitting in a dark room sweating. I'm smoking cigarettes. I'm smoking Marlboro Reds. I was smoking a bunch of Margaritaville raising the roof with Lilo and Stitch. I mean that I mean the truth, it doesn't
Starting point is 00:06:15 take me that long to edit it actually. I'm mostly busy with that. I'm going to be in Asheville. So this guy goes what it will lead to is more price increases. So, I don't know, that is from, so I am, as cynical as you can get
Starting point is 00:06:31 for a bear, who wants a cynical barefoot guy around? God, damn. If you're going to be barefoot, you better be fucking optimistic. You're right about that. That's very true. Well, I, I guess I'm really still completely lost on what these guys
Starting point is 00:06:47 are talking about. What's going on here? I have no real. The bronze feeder fucked, Chris. I get that. Look a picture. price of the shoes because LeBron's wearing them. But they are these are specifically, again, I'm sorry to the listener if you already know what's going on here and you're, but, but these are shoes specifically for people with fucked up feet.
Starting point is 00:07:08 No. These are shoes. These are shoes that are supposed to mimic being barefoot. Ah, yeah. Yeah. The toes go in the toes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I fully think, and I don't remember the full details of this.
Starting point is 00:07:23 should have looked this up i think there was like a class action lawsuit that said a lot of the benefits to these shoes that they were touting were wrong and i think they had to pay money i'm not 100% sure of that so these are these are shoes or you have to take a certain amount of misinformation with you i feel like if you're as a rule yeah everyone gets a pass um so they're they're They're like, they're sort of a barefoot community shoe, though. The barefoot community is like, hey, if you guys are so obsessed with these shoes, how about you try these ones, or they're like. The least amount of shoes you can wear.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, they're like shoes that they can wear if they're forced to wear a shoe in a situation. Is that what I'm? The least amount of shoe they're allowed to wear, I think. Yeah, like, so if sandals aren't allowed, because would they do sandals? Would they prefer sandals over these? I would, I wonder. Yes. They would.
Starting point is 00:08:20 baby so we're going to look at a few different kinds of schools of thought obviously there's the sandals there's carry a sandal in your backpack just in case guys like just in case you have to go into like an establishment or something no like a condom in your wallet yeah and it's just in case you have to go into a store and they tell you you have to put shoes on if you just go into store nobody says anything about shoes you don't got to put the sandals on that's not what they're there for let's be honest i mean you're probably gonna get by you're gonna escape by yeah you're gonna shit yeah most people are p s door i like guys walk in their barefoot i'm not saying shit just i mentioned yeah recently i used to work at best by i can't even imagine confronting somebody about
Starting point is 00:09:06 being barefoot to tell a guy to get put shoes on that's a so i don't think leading experience for both parties you would have to it would have to be a real like sort of like upper like upper cross kind you know would have to be like the Rolex store or something like that I feel like where and then I don't know why are the barefoot guys going to those kind of stores I wouldn't imagine they would be my carpet this guy says he definitely needs to fix his toe health okay so that yeah that was the confusing part to me I guess is that the post initially it's horrible it had nothing to do with fuckers nothing to do with his fucked up feet they were just saying hey he's wearing these shoes and now everyone's going to want them and it's going to drive the prices up or whatever
Starting point is 00:09:47 that's a separate thing from him having a fuck this guy said he's got this guy thinks he wore him and he this is his comment on us he got sick of people his foot being used as an example because people are i guess in the barefoot community like well look at lebron james's feet and it's like well yeah he's using them for a different thing than we are and like i listen my shoes in this community it's a nice amount of projection and my feet here and And hope is broadcast reflected through LeBron James' feet like they're a prism. I mean, I feel like I've been doing this podcast for so long. I've never been so confused initially.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And I don't even know if I'm ever going to really get any sort of understanding about what's going on, Brian, because I don't understand what any of this. Like, I don't get what you're talking about, really. What do you think about this? There's nothing deeper, is my understanding of it. This is completely surface level. Take it as you see it. This guy goes, I'm sorry for all the data.
Starting point is 00:10:47 vote you're getting. And even if I hate wearing restrictive shoes like Converse, they have indeed features that make them very good for basketball, much like football shoes. What we need is some basketball shoes with a wide toe box. But I know that athletes used to wear old fabric Converse and NBA, even if it seems ridiculous now, and they didn't get hurt at all. I'm pretty sure modern basketball shoes are more of a style than an actual useful improvement. So back when they used to wear converse on the courts or Chuck Taylor's, and nobody was getting hurt ever. Brian, and your reading of this is this right now from what you're saying, it strikes me as a sort of old head style community. Even the conversation evokes like an early, like a 2006 sort
Starting point is 00:11:33 of Reddit civility here. Is that your understanding of these guys? They fight a lot. Yeah. Why are they talking about shoes? Why are they? I thought they're barefoot guys. Why are they talking about different styles of basketball shoes like because they hate basketball shoes chris basketball shoes are the thing that they feel are fucking everybody's feet up they're the culprit this community yeah i'm going to sit on the sidelines for a little bit i'm just going to sit on the sidelines for a little bit because i feel like i'm ruining the episode for everyone i'm just going to sit back a little bit and try to get a foothold and what's happening and foot hold i guess i wasn't trying i wasn't trying to do that off those socks and you take a look down
Starting point is 00:12:17 there and look down at them and kind of ponder those suckers for yeah and see if you can understand what these guys are talking about i'm going to look at my feet for a bit you guys talk and i'll just listen let's let's do this this guy posted a thought experiment on r slash barefoot in a parallel dimension where shoes never became status quo what kind of things might also be difference as a consequence small or large built or behavioral let's say that shoes do exist but are more like quote equipment than quote clothing and thus a variety of well-developed application specific types are readily available as for example tools workwear and sporting equipment for example every domicile might have a foot bidet just inside the entrance either as a standalone appliance are built in so
Starting point is 00:13:04 oh because you'd have to wash your feet when you come out because it'd be filthy All of these guys, well, the first change would be that I'd constantly have steam coming out of my ears, like a cartoon character in some sort of Jessica Rabbit scenario. I'd constantly be howling. I'd be constantly just walking around hard, I think, is really the first major. You'd be a wuga. You'd be in a wuga mode. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:13:32 All these guys, all these guys, really, that's what we're getting at. No, we're trying to not. We're trying to not, Branson, because that was the one. one thing we learned when we did the bad foot episode where everyone got really mad at how gross it was was that was one of the really kind of fucked up parts of it is that these people are kind of walking around and then they're like yeah they just got she just had them out you know and it's like yeah we didn't like that it was like this thing where they're like looking at people's feet and people are just at the beach or whatever right they don't want to be like sexualized in
Starting point is 00:14:05 that way and they don't even know they are and like maybe it's not to clip their toenails that day because it's too boring and they didn't feel like doing it. Yeah, and they're just like, and they're just like, look at them. They left it all long and wild for me, you know? Like, that's the way the foot guy is thinking. And so I like to give these guys. He obviously can't get his left pinky toenail. He's obviously just letting that one flare up for a way.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm going to give these guys a benefit for the dough and say like that they are not horny. No, they're not. Okay. I promise this person goes, first of all, I think being barefoot at work would be the norm. unless footwear would be necessary as equipment, as you said. So we would see all sorts of people sitting at their desk job barefooted, but also barefoot nurses, bus drivers, shop assistants. This is so funny to me because it's like this,
Starting point is 00:14:53 this like perfect world for them. And it's like the exact same world, except for like all of the classic jobs just don't have shoes on. It just also like, you know, fundamentally all these guys have an understanding with each other that I don't have. If it's really what's so bad about wearing shoes? Oh, foot prisons. Foot prisons.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I think that they feel like they're binding your feet up and like keeping them. Yeah, that they're keeping them like constrained in a way that's like unhealthy. What are they wearing, I guess is really? Because, you know, most shoes I find don't really do that, you know. Yeah. Most shoes I find you like in my opinion, like I try on shoes and they feel good on my feet. I don't even understand this idea that shoes are. so oppressive. I love having shoes on. I want to hear a theory. I just came up with a theory
Starting point is 00:15:42 in my brain. It's not based on any evidence at all, but this is my thought is that the barefoot is legal sort of thing. The movement started a long time ago when shoes were like that, right? When you wore those like dress shoes that were really like uncomfortable all the time. And this barefoot movement started and got passed along from like generation to generation. So they're just kind of going off of the assumption or there's this feeling like shoes are this way, but it's like a lot of them maybe they just more of grazed that way. If you showed them a nice pair of like new
Starting point is 00:16:14 Nike fucking like Pegasus, like, you know, trail runners, just things feel like clouds on your feet for God's sake. I love my shoes. Yeah, they might change their mind up a little bit because I agree that it's like shoes are not that way anymore. But also you just can't start wearing
Starting point is 00:16:34 shoes because not only do you like, you know, you lose that identity. you've built up of like talking all this stuff so it's like honestly if these guys there's definitely some fucking barefoot guys that have like a pair of k-swiss that are really comfortable that they put on in the basement and get out of their system they just walk around in a circle in the basement with their shoes and walk around their neighborhood and then be like hold on is barefoot fred wearing fucking shoes yeah he fucking books it he runs when And he can run to 2 a.m. And he can run so fast in his case with too. Nothing else. He's the barefoot guy. We tried to get him into model trains.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He said they're too expensive. And so that's not really doing anything. Yeah, no, you're right about that. That's the other thing. This is the cheapest guy thing. And it's funny because we just recently talked about cigars and motorcycles, which I would put in the higher expense thing.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But this, this is actually negative. Negative. This is negative expense. This actually saves you money being this type of guy. Yeah, that's kind of cool. You know, I would, because if you would put a graph of men wearing shoes next to a graph of men who don't wear shoes and then just put income over time, I'm going to bet on the guys who wear shoes. So I'm not going to say it's a fiscally smart. Well, listen, we're not talking about earning power.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Branson, Branson, Branson, the discussion is not about earning power. it's about how much money you save and being this guy and you have to admit you save money on shoes right? How much money you spend on shoes, Branson? You save expenses on gas, going to job interviews. Oh, you save expenses on
Starting point is 00:18:21 all the establishments that will not let you enter and can't even purchase things. So it's like the amount of money saved is just incredible. I mean, I read posts from people who have been like they're talking about here. I think I have i have one like uh from quora where a person asks uh health benefits uh how long you've gone
Starting point is 00:18:45 i don't know what happened to me at the beginning of the episode i was so confused by the lebron james aspect of it that i became so lost i want to apologize to the listener i'm here again and i know what's going on i understand defeat guys man i lost them okay so yeah somebody there were a few people that are like I haven't worn shoes this year and I was like really kind of like wow yeah I was very impressed with that I'm like I don't really go out of my way to wear shoes but I kind of have to wear them every day I have to wear them every single every day yeah at least you know I go out right first thing in the morning the one of the first thing I do is to take my dog out for a walk real early in the morning. It's on like a gravel path where I just feel like if I wasn't wearing shoes,
Starting point is 00:19:37 I would immediately be in trouble on my day. Well, here's one of them. What are some health benefits to going barefoot? And this person answers, yes, do it. And you will not be disappointed. I went barefoot for 10 years. I learned how our feet are meant to work to be hugging the earth with every step brings many benefits. I knew it. I knew he was going to say absorb nutrients through your feet. he goes there you'll be hugging the earth with every step brings many benefits such as learning how to traverse large distances over rough terrain swiftly with little effort new gates besides simply walking and running become apparent and useful for different surface gradients and speeds your feet will learn to see in the dark they get used to a familiar ground and will guide you in the dark
Starting point is 00:20:26 you will walk run and be lines through mud gravel grass etc and simply why why am i doing that? Why am I running through gravel and mud? Why? I don't want to be running through the mud and gravel. But, but I listen, I think, and you just want to sprint through it? I feel like the one single benefit is just that it obviously gets calluses on your feet, right? After a while where your feet becomes stronger and you're able to then, you know, walk easily and you don't get hurt when you walk on the rocks. I think that's a real benefit that will happen, but I don't think it stretches much further than that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 I don't think barefoot guys are doing this shit. They're just a lying now. This is a lie. This is a lie. Talking about, you'll learn new ways to walk. You'll run through the mud. You'll run through the marsh. It'll be like a goddamn animal again. Yeah, like, yeah, like, I mean, they can be really
Starting point is 00:21:22 this could be incredibly helpful if you find yourself stranded in the woods being, you know, chased by a mad serial killer. I mean, it's just like you, yeah, you'll be fucking, doesn't matter where you're going, you'll just be able to run through, which, yeah, I guess, honestly, serial killer is chasing me and I'm barefoot, even without the experience. I think I would, I would just make it, I would make it happen, brother. I'd prefer to wear shoes.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He goes, one mistake I made, I, well, actually, I wanted to get this last part. He goes, you'll walk slash run and B lines through mud, gravel, grass, et cetera, and simply wash it off at the next puddle. One mistake. Oh, hell of that. Whereas you or I, Branson, we would, we would go to somebody like a professional that asked them what to do with the mock, you know, just like. It's not a big deal if you just wait for it to rain.
Starting point is 00:22:12 He goes, one mistake I made, I broke my own rule about running barefoot in the dark, drunk. Any two of the above is fine. But when I did all three, I totally forgot about a meter drain on my route. I survived the crash. It could have been worse, but it was my own folly that caused that. so man that's one of those things i keep to myself you know yeah that's one of those things i think you guys are being you know by the way i got really
Starting point is 00:22:38 drunk and i uh ran in the dark and fucked up really bad i just keep that one to me do you guys want to hear a story about how i when i was younger i got real drunk running in the dark and fuck myself up real bad just reminded me of it i uh i like left this party and went home i had to like go do something at home to like prove that i was home or something like that and then i came back to the party at this guy Sean's house and I was running running as fast I couldn't again it was just like I knew my route but I was a little drunk and I lifted my head up too early and smashed my head uh on like a tree and it smashed my head like cut it open bad and those blood like all over my face and so I showed up at the party all drunk just covered in blood
Starting point is 00:23:22 and they're all who the fuck did this you know like and they all just assumed that I had been beating up and like, oh, let's go get this guy, you know? And I had to just, like, embarrassingly be like, uh, yeah, I don't know, let's go get him. He was like, fucking, I don't know, he was like fucking little guy, but he was like pretty fucking stalky, you know? Regular size. He's a regular size guy with regular clothes off.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, there's a more, no, I had to actually tell them that like, yeah, I, no, I ran, ran my head into a tree. Sorry, fellas, you're going to have to get out your bloodlust in some other way. let's uh let's take a look at this because this is an interesting question uh this guy says vague venue policies now this is a very sorry that already makes me how to tell me the rules baby i got to see my modest yahoo in the context of these verifog guys that's such a good uh headline well wait till you hear the he goes sometimes before going to new places like stadiums or arena
Starting point is 00:24:25 I'll check their website to see if they have any policies against patrons who are barefoot. It helps me avoid any unnecessary confrontation. Most places which prohibit bare feet seem to have pretty specific policies. For example, patrons are prohibited from entering without shirts and shoes. However, I have noticed a couple of vague policies as of late. One policy stated that, quote, footwear is required to attend, and the other is foot coverings are required at all times. in my opinion neither footwear nor foot coverings means that shoes are required i think in their basic
Starting point is 00:25:01 sense footwear is something that is worn on the foot like a toe ring or some other jewelry oh okay i thought you were going to try to sand knows you're going to try to this is who i want to be you choose who you are every day on this on god's green earth and they chose to be the fucking feet lawyer i mean yeah just arguing that case with a with a with a low paid security guards a hundred dollars an hour man if they got to go face to face with the feet lawyer well technically wearing a toe ring it's just like i got a we just got to call this one fellas get her out of here oh yeah show me where it says shoes honestly yeah show me where it says shoes you just got to drag them out you just got to drag them out and take whatever they'll sue you afterwards
Starting point is 00:25:49 but like honestly nobody is like going to take their side even if they're right from a legal standpoint no one's ever going to take their side so you're really bad guy comes in a toe ring in the world is the foot lawyer yeah he goes uh similarly foot coverings especially in the non health care slash non sterile lab environment means one has to have something to cover their feet here an easy example is a sock i also think that a foot covering policy might ban flip flops since the foot is not covered rather ironic socks could be okay but flip flops are not what do you think have we found a slash loophole well i think that you i think that it's fucking ridiculous to show up to an event with your socks on and no shoes i mean yeah i think that's crazy tommy pickles what the fuck is that
Starting point is 00:26:39 yeah it's worse than anything it's worse than barefoot showing up in your socks is worse and honestly is it help man like hey if you just see a guy walk around socks you'd be like dude are you like shell shocked or you yeah yeah did you come did you come from somewhere Like, do you know what I mean? Was there like, a loophole so I can be barefoot. And I'll be like, all right, cool. I'm going to go get the police. I'm going to escalate this immediately for everyone's behalf.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I think that, like, somebody who is just wearing socks seems like they had to leave somewhere quickly. Like, that's the only reason I could ever think of. You were just caught cheating on your wife, right? Yeah. Is that what you're wearing socks for? Well, that's interesting because this guy accomplished ad asked this question. Would it count if I just wore socks in public? I live in a big city with thousands of people and going fully barefoot would probably attract more attention than I'd want.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah, those freaks would probably be weirdly obsessed with me walking around barefoot. But if I wore just socks, I can still feel semi barefoot while keeping my feet protected and clean, all while drawing less attention. What do you guys think? More attention, as we just said. As we just said, it's more attention. Walking around wearing socks is more odd than walking around wearing barefoot. sure this is ask me about my feet yeah it is weird man because you you know what i picked the the reason i put this in here is because like i was picturing the guy walking around in his socks
Starting point is 00:28:07 and they're they're dirty and they're also like hanging off the front of his foot and like they're just like all falling because dude the city will tear your fucking socks up there's just no no way crazy types of fungus in your toenail. You're getting all kinds of stuff in there. Every kind of trash is on the ground. Batteries. Oh, yeah. People taking number twos.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Animals take a number twos. Rats dying. Birds dying. Yeah, but they, the barefoot people don't. That's what? You mean the earth? That's called the earth.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And it's actually you want to kiss that every day with your feet, with the bottom of your feet. Well, what they would say to you as your shoes get that stuff on them, too. But that's okay. That's right. that's the whole point yeah we're right all the same team man yeah i think the worst thing to me i barefoot guys god bless you the foot lawyers it's a pitiful state of being it's a pitiful person to choose to be even if you're technically right sometimes you just got to let it go sometimes you just got to yeah yeah i understand man it's just they want to see their concert they want to see their concert
Starting point is 00:29:16 and they're but it's like yeah you have to pick one or the others sometimes and and I'm sorry but yeah you're right to just be like it ever be that person where you're just like bothering some employee with some horrible like legal loophole shit on any sort of a thing it makes you really terrible for sure and to be doing it with your feet out pretty it's annoying you're being like you know you're being annoying that's the thing like people that are just plain annoying right like the people in in the world that are annoying but don't know that they're annoying I can give them a pass because it's just like that this guy doesn't know he's annoyed but if you're fucking standing in line to go to a hockey game or something and you're like well
Starting point is 00:30:06 actually it says uh footwear and I'm wearing a toe ring then you're just you know what you're doing you're intentionally annoying like yeah you like you're aware of it it's like no I'm being annoying, but I'm doing it for this like righteous thing. And that's like, yeah, that is really, if I'm part of the foot community, I'm thinking about, you know, this, this type of guy's going to fuck it all up for us. Yes. Because I, if I'm worried about foot prisons, right? If I'm really worried about foot prisons, the government's going to come to my house and make me wear shoes, even when I go to bed, right? You know, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be foot lawyers that evoke the wave of hostility. It's going to be the foot lawyers. If somebody wins like a
Starting point is 00:30:48 high profile barefoot case, you know, to be able to like go barefoot to like a football game? They never will. They're not respected. That will never happen. Keep your foot lawyers in check. It will never happen because they have no respect from anybody in the world. Everybody laughs at them. You're honestly, you would think that the foot lawyers are the scourge of the barefoot
Starting point is 00:31:13 community, but that is not the only person. this person says is there any scientific evidence that earthing slash grounding has health benefits so i'm new to earthing i'm thinking to try it but is it actually scientifically proven to have benefits if yes how exactly does it benefit you does walking barefoot only benefit you in doing it on actual soil or does walking at home also have benefits is it good for depression thanks for your help okay this guy first guy normal guy we're good here's your normal guy I've never seen any convincing evidence. It's pseudoscience at best.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I can say, I can't say much about depression, but what I can say is it helps me calm my mind down when I have too much swirling in my head. I like to go to the park for nightly walks and being barefoot really helps in calming my mind and helps me be present in the moment. I use it like a form of meditation, mindfully walking and thinking of nothing in life but enjoying the textures beneath me. That's incredibly reasonable, man. incredible seven thousand down votes well no no it's like this is the most hated man he's like fucking mr rogers for the barefoot movement yeah and so the next guy answers and goes uh it's very simple we are being we are beings of electricity electrons flow through our body and hold us together the earth is grounding when you connect to ground your electrons free flow and stabilize there is no
Starting point is 00:32:42 magic it's just a lost connection to the earth since the invention of rubber sole shoes and people are now rediscovering how humans are connected to the earth not some spiritual stuff even just scientifically now this guy saying we're beings of pure electricity those fucking electrons they feel great man yeah electrons from the ground man it's the electrons guy we love them uh this guy goes well there may be other explanations we suggest that rapid resolution of inflammation takes place because the earth surface is an abundant source of excited and mobile electrons as described in our work so excited and mobile electrons being barefoot's the same thing as drinking gatorade yes well they do say that we absorb more electrolytes through our feet which then those
Starting point is 00:33:34 electrolytes come from the ground and it makes us graphics where they'll have like a guy's feet and then they'll have it next to a tree and they'll show the roots absorb nutrients and then they'll show the guy's feet absorbing nutrients there are a lot of there are a lot of pictures of people's feet i will say that way more pictures of feet than was in a foot fetish episode like i saw so many pictures of guys feet and and you know what they would be like look how great these feet look right like i've been walking barefoot for two years look how great my feet look they look exactly the same but dirty to me every time this guy goes 100% pseudoscience and uh he gets see this is the fight now here we go you think it's the foot lawyers and hey you're being
Starting point is 00:34:24 annoying paining the ass but the real fight here is between the guys that are like you got to get those electrons moving and the guys they're like stop saying this stuff you make us look fucking crazy and that that is true right that is true it does make them seem like when you start saying that stuff like oh it like brings the electrons in through the court like that's what you know people are like oh so it's not just like about like just walking barefoot and having the freedom of being out of shoes like you guys are like actually loony yeah so i think that that's that's correct that brings a lot of shame probably to the community i think both of them do also the guys who are in line saying like no this is actually a foot covering they're
Starting point is 00:35:05 all bringing shame to the yeah this guy goes the fact is there are studies showing physical and benefits from grounding, which do need further research. But you claiming at pseudoscience is actually anti-science since there is no research disproving it. But there are studies showing in a science works. There's no research disproving it. There's a lot of stuff that there's no research disproving because there's no need to because it's so fucking so stupid.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Nobody felt the need to ever be disprove it because everyone's like, everyone's just like, no, we just know that that's not true. because but there are studies showing an effect and mechanism if you were scientific and truthful person you would say quote preliminary studies demonstrate an effect but we need more studies but you're not you don't actually understand science and you yourself are providing misinformation do you actually have the moral character to admit you are wrong oh this is why i don't argue i just yeah argue anymore this is what everybody fucking sounds like when they're arguing to me now i just say i gotta just not do it Yeah. And when the next guy goes, you don't have the guts to admit. You're spreading pseudoscience. So we are in a real fight here. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Mm-hmm. This guy goes to the bottoms of our files. They're checking past posts. They're seeing what else this guy is into. They're seeing if there's any pictures of this guy. Who's this guy talk to? They're getting their fingers in there. They're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Their eyes are narrowing like a predator. I love this guy. I love this person. Uh, so this guy goes, the bottom of our feet are covered these this is the science everybody get ready for some science the bottoms of our feet are covered in sweat glands sweat in itself is more conductive than just water due to the presence of electrolytes when we ground barefoot the combination of sweat from the bottoms of our feet and the negative ions from the earth causes an exchange through the
Starting point is 00:37:00 sweat ducts in our feet inflammatory byproducts within the body almost always give off a positive charge while anti-inflammatory byproducts are negatively charged the negative ions from the earth work synergistically with our body to pull these positively charged ions like i know that it you know but it's like if i ever hear that it i don't know man that might be synergistically i'm kind of like oh okay i'm not really sure you're above board that's that's a word somebody who has a bluetooth like headset is yes ions i mean i bring it up ions is like synergistically is something someone's says who is like trying to sell you on something that is going to rip you off seriously you know
Starting point is 00:37:45 it's like that type of thing like synergistically we're working on like improving that like that's that it's like a sales pitch type thing i think ions is the thing that that kind of hits me like as in like a guy talking about ions i'm going to just be like listen okay man have fun with the ions i don't I don't want to tell you. I'm shooting through my body. Love it. Yeah, yeah. That you could feel ions is the craziest that, like, that they are saying like, hey,
Starting point is 00:38:18 Ernest fucking goes to jail powers from walking barefoot in there. He goes, hey, I walk out of my house and I touch the, the asphalt outside. And those fucking ions just go crazy. Oh, buddy. Are you kidding me? Asphalt ions? Asphalt ions are fucking insane, dude. Have you ever had, like, linoleum ions, buddy?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Those kind of make me feel a little bit. Like, the linoleum ones make me feel a little sleepy, but like somebody who's just convinced that every place they step is like directly impacting their body. Yeah, I mean, it's not much past that, honestly. I feel like, again, I feel like maybe there's, where does that come from, I guess? just people who want to be barefoot and then they're searching. Yeah, like longing for a deeper reason why it's good and why their whole life's purpose is actually something
Starting point is 00:39:12 that everybody else should be doing or what. Yeah, maybe try to get other people to do it. You just have fun with it. You have a higher tolerance of the metaphysical. So somebody says something, you let it go away. These communities are not really the time. These are not STEM guys jumping on each other. These are, you can kind of say whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:39:29 In fact, I think in this community, you would have to really kind of reel back in order to get somebody to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Let's let's take a break here. Yeah. Yeah. It's an escalation of opinion that's just very, very tolerated. And sooner or later, you're going to get guys and everyone's a genius. It is the same thing as a sovereign citizen in a way.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Because like, they have this idea like, I don't want to have to go get my driver's license. So here's all the reasons I shouldn't have to get my driver's license. And this is like barefoot people are looked at, not by me, I'm fine with it, whatever, do what you want, but like, there are people who are like, get those feet and shoes. You know what I mean? I don't have a positive opinion of barefoot people, right? No. You see a barefoot person in the street, right?
Starting point is 00:40:23 There's a zero percent chance that a barefoot person is ever going to make my life easier. You know what I mean? Yeah. What it is, is when you are a barefoot person in the world, you are now a potential, you're viewed at as a potential problem. At best, you can be neutral. At best. It depends where you are, of course.
Starting point is 00:40:41 But yeah, if you see someone who's clearly a barefoot person where they're in a situation where nobody else's barefoot and they are. And it's beach, anywhere but the beach. Well, at a park or whatever I could see it, that's nice summer day at the park or whatever. You want to slip your shoes off your plane a little frisbee or something like that. I'll let it slide. That's my rule. If you're too ugly, you've got to keep your shoes on at the park.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I will let it slide at the park on a nice day. I'll let it slide. But yeah, anybody who's like... I'm going to let it slide today. Downtown. Downtown on like any day downtown if you're just like walking on like the sidewalk or whatever. Yeah, I mean, like I'll be honest with you. Like truly the only people I see walking barefoot are like people who are like, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:26 are unhoused people like in Vancouver. a lot of unlawful. So you're generally going to see people who are barefoot who are, I don't see a lot of these. Again, I don't know that I've encountered one of these like barefoot is legal type people. I don't, I don't. They're point provers usually. If you're in the city and you're doing it, you're putting a point
Starting point is 00:41:45 at that. And I just think that I don't know that like, I always thought of them as someone who just, I know that they do exist but yeah, because I've never encountered them, I always thought of them as this online phenomenon that just like, you know, is on these message boards, but no one's really I've seen them.
Starting point is 00:42:00 People aren't out there at restaurants being like, no, I'm allowed to be here. I looked at pictures of guys at bars without shoes on. Like I looked at a million because I look at pictures. No, but they take pictures of each other's feet. Like they will be like, oh my God, I ran into another barefoot guy at this bar and they'll take a picture of his feet. And then they'll also. There's, they'll also. The other thing that they'll do often is they're like, if I'm barefoot and somebody
Starting point is 00:42:33 asked me about it, get ready, motherfucker, because I'm going to talk about ions. Of course. God, dude, I just realized it's also like, like, like when I would, when I, I get the same thing of like how they have a speech prepared. It was like when I was like in college and you'd be hanging out with like Obama era DSA people. who were so passionate and ready to give you the speech at a moment's notice like that that's what i'm getting a little bit from the foot guys is that that sincere over eagerness that completely blows their cause yeah and i it is it is one of those things where like they have memes saying like
Starting point is 00:43:18 don't ask me about being barefoot because i'll fucking go crazy on you yeah yeah it's like the vegetarians or whatever like they famously have yeah yeah but the the good thing i think I don't think that it would be objectionable to me if a guy said, I go barefoot because I like, I don't like shoes and like all that. Like if a regular guy said that, now if this guy where he's saying like he goes, these negative ions attach themselves to our red blood cells due to the content of iron in our blood, the result in causing polarization of the blood cells, basically causing the blood cells to push away from one another as opposed to clumping up. this separation allows for better blood oxygenation and better blood flow allowing the blood to become more viscous that would be a time for me to like try to figure out how to get out of the conversation i'm out of there yeah that's like that's the anti-vax kind of like you know it starts to feel that kind of way like oh you're like you know what i mean you don't like believe in real
Starting point is 00:44:18 science and stuff and you're like sort of living in a different reality than i am right now and like it would it would it would definitely get my like i would be uh you know i get my back up there for sure and then definitely when they said what was the word that they used that i really synergistically synergistically certainly when synergistically hit i would be fucking running out of there like a cartoon character you just see my fucking clothes still there and i would be gone in a little burst of it engaging with like old guys in public that want to talk to me i'm really good at it because I get targeted a lot because I'm tall.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So a guy that's an instant conversation starter with anyone over the age of 55 because they'll be like, I knew I had a brother that was tall. But what I found works is I had once a guy approached me to riff about the Land of Lakes butter mascot and he was holding it up and I could see he was loading the riff. They took the Landlake's fucking Butter mascot. What the fuck? And I had him, I saw him approaching me holding the Land of Lakes thing. and I just he started saying you know and I go I'm not interested in that sort of thing I didn't prep it but I use that every fucking time it works every time if you just told look an old man dead in the eyes and tell me you are not interested in that type of thing
Starting point is 00:45:40 he has no idea how to take it yeah I mean this is a real white night thing but I did have like just somebody was making like a racist you know what I mean like saying something like hey how about this with that? And it wasn't that long ago, like within the last six months. And I just said to him, hey, man, I, oh, sorry, buddy. I'm not, I'm not a racist guy. I apologize. It was like, stopped him so dead.
Starting point is 00:46:03 What we were talking about before off of the podcast. What? Oh, in the joke, I was saying I was the racist guy you were confronting. Ah, yeah, that is. I mean, the thing with me is like, I am very confrontational. I'm very racist. Sorry, I just want to say, Branson, the reason that I had to stop you there is because I was worried that you were referring to the actual homophobic thing I was saying before the
Starting point is 00:46:31 show started. I'm just joking about that as well, everyone. Relax. This person says, damn, please, Brian. So what was the thing that you were going to say? I cut you off and what were you going to say? I don't remember now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Well, that's, this person goes, that's the risk. That's my memory. Damn, couldn't have said it better myself. people forget that before we wear shoes and use the internet and ate horrible food, that we were all special, powerful beings, full of spirituality, knowledge, and light. Just look at the indigenous tribes. We had the ability to heal ourselves. We had the ability to work in nature.
Starting point is 00:47:04 We lost our connection to our spirituality, so important to immerse yourself in nature and ground yourself. Listen, I believe that that is, there is a definite truth to what they're saying there in the fact that, yeah, we have lost our connection to nature in a lot of ways. Like, there's a lot of people who have... avatar, I think, is where he's getting at. But they have zero connection. There's a lot of people live in the city, and they have zero connection to, like, the nature around them, like, you know, anything like that.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And I think that that is, like, a strength of indigenous communities and something that we've lost. But I just don't know that the barefoot thing is the way back in. I just don't know that that is the way back in, you know. You know, regardless of all this discussions of government and financial systems and the large scale industry of people it's about our fucking shoes yeah we could just if we if i could honestly if old donnie trump would just pop off his shoes and socks that would i think make a big difference of this world brian did brian freeze i think we lost bryant unless he's just i thought he was making a face yeah i thought he was just so we've lost brian this is this branson i want to say
Starting point is 00:48:15 this is unprecedented, but it's very precedented. It's very precedented. How many precedents you got for this one? There's been a few of them for sure, and you just, the question becomes, you know, when will you come? That's a kicked cord scenario, I think, is what I'm calling a kicked cord. Because
Starting point is 00:48:31 it wasn't like a gradual thing. It was it, yeah. Can I tell you? It's always a kicked cord. It's a kick cord, yeah. Yeah, it's always a kick cord. What is he working with there? Was he got a focus, right? I'm seeing an XLR there. He's got to have a a folk you know those focus rights you'll plug into him real secure and then they got that he's gone for real now connection i have the i have a scarlet i think my is a focus i think
Starting point is 00:48:56 he he does not he has some weird it's it's the computer he turns off just to be clear he kicks off his whole computer oh is it a button situation it's a button or a chord or something like that that he well let's find out though he's back yeah that's Brian you want to tell us what happened? Oh, now his audio's not here? His audio's off, yeah. Yeah, just a second. Sorry, guys. I don't know what he's given there. He just
Starting point is 00:49:22 told us. That was the patient finger. That was the patient finger. It turned off. Yeah, I don't know. He's on muting. I didn't touch it. It's so far away from me. It's frozen again. Nope. One of my screens went green and the other two went black and then it just started rebooting. What?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Oh, well, did you did you turn the computer off? it turned off oh you're going hot is it running hot so that's not great that's not great
Starting point is 00:49:58 but again we we discussed it Brian you desperately need to get yourself a new computer for your work you know I know that you get himself a real iron horse you can get him pre-bought he bought this computer like off of eBay
Starting point is 00:50:12 a while ago, like I used computer. He needed something when his finances were in a certain way. He needed something to be able to record and stuff with, but he should in my opinion, because he relies on this stuff for his job, is that he should have a computer
Starting point is 00:50:28 that doesn't turn off. I will get a new computer. I apologize for that. Put it off the card. There's so few expenses for a fucking podcast. You got to like that. Well, we don't have any really. I mean, Brian, we had some money sitting there and we just used it to put that we were doing a live show in Vancouver
Starting point is 00:50:44 and we used it for the deposit for that but yeah that was very unprofessional and I'm just happy that it happened I will say this I'm happy that it happened right now with our friend Branson and not the last episode you're recorded with Tim Hydecker well we did just did just to the episode Tim Idecker and that would have really stuck in the middle of that
Starting point is 00:51:09 when you first started going there for How long do you take your friends and family and acquaintances to get used to see you're not wearing? We'll never hear the end of it and he'll be going off on his railing on his show. Now, my family would be shocked. Yeah, it would have a nightmare. I own, I wear shoes. Famously, I put shoes on when I wake up and take them off when I'm sitting on the edge of my bed about to lay down and go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:51:41 famously we well and the thing we've talked about this before right like oh uh i do have never takes his shoes off i sort of mention it a little bit but yeah should i woke up this morning brian is the exact opposite he is walked around and did whatever my daily thing is at the end of the day i'd still have to put a pair of shoes on for a few minutes because then because i feel weird not wearing shoes I feel strange to have my feet out so yeah I am just like
Starting point is 00:52:16 my family would be like oh finally he took his shoes off Yeah at first Yeah at first be like, oh, this is great. And then you never put them on. Then they'd be like, wait a second, he's gone, you know, yeah, I'm trying to think of how, yeah, my family would react. But yeah, people would react like, what the fuck? I go to like a, I go, just thinking when I go to that restaurant and have a rigatoni with Charlie every now and then during the happy hour.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And like, they know me pretty well. And like, I start having that conversation with them all of a sudden, like, oh yeah, by the way, I don't wear shoes anymore. Because I would have to, I would have to talk to them about it. Like, can I come in here? it would be a real and like yeah my like obviously my wife and my yeah Branson do you think you could pull it off or do you think that you would be able to like no I have a I like I'm a large man I'm sort of like livestock in a lot of ways in which I do generate more smells you know I'm a I'm six six like two six right so it's like I'm like you know if I'm going to work or something like that and I come home my feet
Starting point is 00:53:34 are going to fucking reek really i'll keep my shoes on because my feet will fucking reek so it's like if i show up at somebody's house and take my shoes off it's like i'm just showing up and taking a big like shit in their kitchen you know branson how about this how about this up branson maybe your feet ain't going to smell anymore if they're always free and they're always out there breathing and they're not going to get mad at me at work if i show up you oh you can't go to work what's your job that you can't be barefoot i work at a community college Oh, and all of a sudden walk in barefoot.
Starting point is 00:54:07 You'd think it would be strange if you're walking around and all of a sudden without any socks or shoes on in an office? A little bit strange. I think it might be a little bit strange. I think the stench is inevitable. Would your boss?
Starting point is 00:54:21 I just have to be a grown man and manage it. What do you call you into the office? You think your boss? Like, in all serious, it's like, I did that. You know, what do you call you in and say, hey, you know, what's going on with the, what's going on with the, what the,
Starting point is 00:54:31 I was just, you know, really, honestly, I've been skirting the dress code all year. Yeah, I've been wearing jeans and white shoes and I used to get to the cable company of my boots. I don't ever get anything. And then pull out and go parking a parking lot and put my regular Nike's on for the rest of the day. I had a coworker almost fuck that up. I'd have to pull into a parking lot, put my boots on at the end.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Wait, what the white shoes? I'm like, shut the fuck up. When I worked at a group home, I worked at a group home for a while, like with a juvenile alternative like juvie kids, like 16 through 18. And I used to have to tell my coworkers, like we'd be hanging out in the living room of the group home with like eight kids that are all like 16, 17. And I'd be like, I'd have to tell like these 24 year old women, put your fucking shoes off. you think 16 year old boys there's not one of them that think something put your fucking shoes on right now and i i only mention that because it wasn't like a one-time thing i had to tell three to four different people that work there to put their fucking shoes on like these are i wonder these
Starting point is 00:55:54 is an assumed sort of barefootness of like they still aren't used to it the culture around me is unfortunately very barefoot hostile i see they would get horny again and we're not talking about that this time but sometimes people obviously as we know on this podcast some people are really in defeat oh that i saw a lot of guys getting stung by bees i think i have a few caltrips a lot of caltrips in my community i do have a few i'll get to those in a second because i want to this guy goes there's digger bees i thought my old lady was used to it by now nope She acknowledges that barefoot and is healthy and all, but it's still concerned about what other people think.
Starting point is 00:56:39 That's the only wife post, by the way, for these guys. Have any of you guys ever heard of you guys ever heard of set and start off with my old lady? it's ever a guy saying anything fucking nice about his wife. We don't hear it. We never hear anybody on this show. We never hear anyone say anything positive. But that makes sense, Brian.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I feel like a lot of single guys in this community, like not a lot of married people that are in the barefoot community, unless your wife is in it with you. Like, I don't think it's, it doesn't feel like a lot of our communities. They're like, oh, my, this is, my wife feels about it. My wife's always complaining. I do find it interesting that. I just don't even imagine there's a lot of guys who are like fully
Starting point is 00:57:33 barefoot is legal and then their wife is just like a normal shoe person that wouldn't really work right i know barefoot are compromises in the no i don't want people i think that i don't want to walk around town and have people looking at me yeah me too Yeah, it's normal. That's normal. That's normal. And listen, you can say like, oh, who cares what everybody thinks, whatever, you know? But it's like, that's also normal. You live in your community. You don't want everybody talking about your freakish barefoot husband who, you know, who, you know, you're, you. You know, he was always fucking arguing with the concier. I'm allowed in there. I'm allowed it to the letter. Oh, hi, Janice.
Starting point is 00:58:27 How are you? Janice, how are the kids? Oh, I'm fine. He's yelling behind her. And she's like, trying to have a conversation with someone. Yeah, I push his way into a parent-teacher conference. Yeah, yeah. I'm allowed in here.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I think that's a normal thing. Yeah. My feet smell not my feet. smell not my feet smell good one and they look good they're beautiful yeah and people are i mean i i would certainly assume that you have like a massive foot odor problem that was like everything smells good branson i know i know i look like i'm smelly but i i just would assume if i ever like said to someone like hey you got to take your shoes off to come in there and they're just like, no, they, how do I, what?
Starting point is 00:59:19 How do you know his feet smell good? I can guarantee you haven't. I've spent time with him. I spent time with him. Yeah, like, we spent time together. He's just a good smelling guy. He's a really fresh, good smelling guy. I've, like, hung out with him in a hotel room, and we've been there and no shoes.
Starting point is 00:59:34 That's maybe not true. Maybe I haven't seen him without his shoes on. Big wet dogs, and then I let a girl borrow my, my starter jacket in high school. And I know, I have, I mean, I just know that he smells really good. Like, he just has a really good. She came back and she's like, I took it off. It smells like dog. Because it's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:51 and I was like a big wet dog all the times. Oh, this is one of, this is a nasty story. This hurts. Well, it was like she, she took it to, like a lock-in moment. The most about that is that she took it to class with her,
Starting point is 01:00:16 where somebody said I had a rat stash and I'm like and when terminator style 13 year old boy I was like oh my god they probably spent that whole class talking about my coat like they were probably chatting up about the coat and I was like that is so embarrassing I I oh yeah so that was embarrassing to me this guy goes this is the one the best thing to do is just let yourself stop caring what people think now this is a response to a guy saying they might have had like song parodies about it even if i'm thinking about the way you know what i mean i don't have any off the top of my head but i just yeah he goes uh especially the people in the street who you've never spoken to him probably never will don't put thoughts in strangers heads that you don't know that
Starting point is 01:01:04 they're thinking just smile be confident or act it and dress the best you can it really changes perception now i don't believe that you can dress well without shoes i apologize to all the shoeless people i just think in order to be dressed well you got to have shoes on like this guy goes my wife calls me a street urchin and i had to look that up even if you got a tuxedo and you're like have no shoes on you're still look like george's when i walk the dog barefoot on her neighborhood she always tells me to put shoes on and sometimes catches yeah it's a big part of the formal dress is the shoes this lady really doesn't like barefoot like this lady honestly his house is barefoot hostile if i'm hmm
Starting point is 01:02:15 things where like a lot of divorces happen from imagine like marrying some guy and things are going well and you know just like the vaccine coming out I think caused a lot of barefoot all the time you're like like oh shit my husband's stupid or like well I'm saying I'm saying like I think a lot of people lived together during COVID and they discovered that their husband is fucking stupid or that their wife is just fucking stupid or weird and they ended the relationship you know what I mean and I think the vaccine to me is a very obvious point where people are like oh he thinks vaccine shedding is real you know what I mean like the vaccine caused a lot of this weird like well also if you get divorced for being like a fuck guy you're not going to be less of
Starting point is 01:03:32 a foot guy after getting divorced you know oh got it off you're a fucking she let me she sounds like she doesn't have enough to do in my pushing all the chips in on being a foot guy i'm not i don't know wife anymore so I'm just a foot guy, so this better work out. I can smell it. Brian's stinky jacket. I hear it. Get her something to do.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Buy her a game or a jigsaw puzzle. I'm fucking bitch. Oh, that's the undertone of every single one of the brand. That is just, that is what they're all. Who does she think she fucking is? Yeah, by her some sort of game where she can be like, she can, she can like pretend to be like a CEO of a guy. Because wife was concerned, but after a year, it became normal. My parents never really accepted it, but dad just never really said anything.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Although he did advise me not to go on the radio about it, period of a ball on a rope. And more as a good set of all, insisted on shoes in some places like town with her. The rest of the family and friends, either no comment or no issues or acceptance. Again, it took maybe a year of commitment. commitment what a bad son what a bad when it comes to your mother if your mother asked you to put shoes on put your shoes on what a bad son hit me really was that his dad asked them not to go on the radio like if we go to the restaurant you and you're making your mother do that you choose every day
Starting point is 01:05:15 on God's green earth who to be and you're making your mother beg you to put shoes on it's a damn shame is all it is there it's a damn shame yeah I'd be completely fine with going on the radio I think it'd be completely fine I think that was a rat you're really your son's a foot guy
Starting point is 01:05:36 you just kind of have to love the dad's old school let's keep this shameful secret away from the public on the radio you know what i mean let's just keep it about every dad you uh don't even know if my dad knows i have a podcast you just i doubt they ever will i often wear shoes in their company it's easier that way i feel bad for that guy yeah I do feel bad for him, but everything he says, correct, it's easier. You think I like everything I do around people all the time?
Starting point is 01:06:20 Come on, buddy. Put some of your commitment to it, though, right? I mean, if you're like, some people would say, well, you're not really doing it. And it's not a thing. And then, but he's just saying, like, you know what? I just want to, I still want to do it. Like, when I'm alone, when I have the opportunity, but I also just want to live a normal life where everyone still likes me.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Which is very strange with something like being barefoot, because it's kind of, which I think is probably a good way to be. That's it. It's not like a. big activity you know what i mean but like this guy goes wait how long will it take to getting used to seeing someone seeing you not wearing a shirt at home or going commando or no clothes at all society's rules are arbitrary yet people do not recognize the conditioning they went through which may well have led them to despise the mere thought of exposing any tabooed body parts
Starting point is 01:07:07 people don't know how to deal with dissenters and deviance i heard from called this some escape from freedom. He argued freedom while celebrated officially also brings uncertainty, anxiety, and isolation. In response to this burden, many people unconsciously seek security by submitting to group norms and authority conforming to social norms or adopting rigid ideologies, even if that means giving up personal autonomy. I just don't think that guy was talking about not wearing shoes. And, yeah, listen, man, he is the kind of guy, though, that's the way I imagine them all kind of talking about how, like, it's about the freedom of it and like, you know, yeah, don't give up any of your, don't let them like, but at the end of the day, I just think it's a situation where a lot of the ground is real rough and it hurts your feet and it's better to wear shoes on that. that stuff because then you won't hurt your feet and it's not really any deeper than that that it's like yeah it's just kind of better people are asking you to wear shoes to maintain the preexisting
Starting point is 01:08:24 social niceties they don't want to revolutionize the concept and go into a whole brave new world with you it's probably Tuesday night they don't want to do that yeah you just have to let even let's say hypothetically your big scientific thing your big Freudian analysis whatever let's say it's completely right so fucking what they're not going to change you do you know it don't fucking get along or don't that's yeah yeah you don't have the numbers you don't have the numbers you have to be realistic you don't have the numbers if you're in the barefoot community to move the needle at all like it's never going to you feel with like the fakeness of putting on shoes everyone else in your life has to put up the fakeness of talking about your bare feet with you
Starting point is 01:09:03 they have to laugh they have to fake laugh at the weird shit you say they have to change the subject you don't crazy people don't realize this but people are already giving giving you an incredibly wide birth. Yeah, right? People are already giving you a wide birth because you're naturally an unreasonable person. So even if you're technically right on this, people are not listening to you. It feels like barefoot is a classic crazy guy trope too, right, to see like a barefoot person. So it does like sort of bring on when you see that person, you think you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:36 it's a little bit, something going on there maybe. And it's, yeah, it really. Any cynicism comes out of a barefoot person. I'm out. If you want to be a barefoot person truly in this world, you have to be fucking optimistic Mr. Sunshine and then everything's fine.
Starting point is 01:09:53 But if you're like a complaining ass barefoot person, shut that nobody wants to deal. Everybody else is enough problems. And you are just a waving raw nerve. You're right. Like, just a really positive, like, if I found out that, do you remember the library guy?
Starting point is 01:10:07 This person says, my girlfriend and I walk about three miles barefoot every day with her dog. If that guy, I found out he was barefoot and he's just like, man, I just like it. I just love it. I'm just love it. I'd be like, fuck yeah. And dirt trails down to a local beach. Complete heaven for bare feet.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Since we're walking more than 20 miles per week, our souls are acclimated and feel like leather. The only issue we're currently facing is the fact that our feet are stained. Even though we clean them every morning in a shower and again after our walk, we're barefooters and tend to go places barefoot socially with friends. And my girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about. how stained our feet are even the I would think that
Starting point is 01:11:00 something to not be something to not be embarrassed about it all in the barefoot community I would think that that would be a mark of honor to have the most stained foot Like showing little stains like Situation here really I mean I don't understand what they're surprised like It's a bit embarrassed about
Starting point is 01:11:20 My girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about how stained our feet are Even though they're so healthy In Lisbon Are the cows is forming everybody Where you walk? In all states I think that would be My girlfriend is really nervous For other people who are on the bottom of our feet
Starting point is 01:11:36 But they're so healthy You know what? You don't believe these things. Yeah, stealing the... I mean, I just know you could bleach your asshole, right? So maybe you could do something like that where you bleach the bottom of your foot and get that. My boy biggie in college
Starting point is 01:12:11 I did come home one day my roommate was just stitting in the bathtub pouring a diluted bleach and water solution of his feet Perfectly clean manicured feet are a fashion station Just walked on by There you go
Starting point is 01:12:25 There you go can you imagine though yeah like that would be so you're you're showing up at a barefoot thing and like everyone's like oh my god do you see the fucking new like somebody's got like pristine clean feet and everyone's like hush talking like you know like oh my god that would be so you could really sort of look at these new feet everyone's looking at those new feet and it's like oh my god did you see fucking brian's like over the past like month i don't know how much he's been doing but he's look incredibly dark like everybody's just like really making note of it and it's like it's the hierarchy pumice or something it's all circle yeah it's i would i would
Starting point is 01:13:16 love to if that it sort of broke down that way and you just seen some guy and he's just like in the corner with the nastiest dirtiest feet you've ever seen and he's like the king he's like up on a bed i imagine like it builds layer after layer like at first it's the bottom of your feet then it goes to the side and so he's been careful for like 45 years it would get to his knee you know it would go crawl up his leg like Earl Missouri I hung out with a guy named
Starting point is 01:13:42 and have white be I hung out with a guy in Josh when I was dipping all the time he had oh yeah you would see the dip
Starting point is 01:13:48 stain like as guys he was always wearing like tight pants like their beard get white and then the
Starting point is 01:13:54 part underneath it just get brown and yellow specifically same thing same thing mm hmm no I didn't
Starting point is 01:14:07 but he he smoked we all smoked cigarettes right he he felt about him was like his facial hair came to me like he was he was making conscious like all the way around he smoked so much he smoked more than he didn't necessarily agree with but then you know what i mean and all around his lip was perfectly yellow and a couple years ago i was on facebook and back when i was on facebook i said something about weed or something and he responded to me and i clicked his fucking link still there still keeping the blonde goatee in so and it just looks like it's the it's the worst like like you can't have a blonde goatee and smoke you can't do both things you know what i mean like you got choose one yes no it looks really really dark yellow like when you've seen somebody's house where
Starting point is 01:15:11 they smoke and you see how the walls get that's what is mustache like you got to cut it off if but then but can you tell that it's stained or does it just kind of look cool and yellow like you know I mean like blonde oh yeah can you yeah I'd love to see it privately I really love my favorite like a habit stain is easily red wine teeth
Starting point is 01:15:38 red wine teeth are the funniest fucking thing to see in the wild I love seeing an old lady with red wine teeth it like makes my whole fucking day oh yeah I that's that one's a rough one getting that you got to get you get those dealt with i feel like right you get the teeth white in my experience the only thing that really cleans my feet is walking around on wet sidewalks on a rainy days the only issue in dirt not coming off yeah because it gets into the cracks in your feet
Starting point is 01:16:06 they won't heal with dirt in them soaking and scrubbing with a nail brush or something similar works for that I am This motherfucker's just scraping his dead ass feet on the sidewalk You look outside You see him scraping his fucking old skin trail A fucking nasty ass feet stuff Why doesn't he just wash his feet?
Starting point is 01:16:41 He's scraping off his feet on the sidewalk Just do in your backyard Get like a bag You get a pumice stone He's not doing it on purpose He just can't help strange. The thing I find strange is like when an animal sheds
Starting point is 01:16:53 in the nature that's just what's called nature. It's like such a weird behavior to take out. I go outside to shed my feet. You just see two fucking big empty skin sacks that look like feet. Well, it doesn't work because the dirt like, have you ever seen somebody's feet like at the end of the summer? that walks around Bearfoot or a lot around the house and stuff like that. Why can't they just wash to go to the stream?
Starting point is 01:17:25 Like no, they just, they not have a bath or a shower? Here's one guy. Oh, I know. I know. I'm just saying, I understand that like it's not going to work here.
Starting point is 01:17:43 It's getting staining the poor yellow jacket. In a way, it's not dirt on the surface level of the state. your skin and you can't wash it out in that same way but I mean why would a puddle held that Fossey bear did Fuzzy Bear post that
Starting point is 01:18:13 is that fly from fucking Jellystone Park what the what lives do these people live. Well, these, not like, yeah. We are not, we, you can, there's nothing that guy can tell me about my life. They'll translate to my life. Yeah, he's, he lives out. These, because I feel like there are some people like that that are barefoot where they're
Starting point is 01:18:33 like feeling like real a naturalist or something. And they like live out in a tent somewhere in like a forested area. Yeah. And they for food. And then that would honestly make sense that they're a barefoot person, right? You're like, you're like living like a wild man. then. That's what you want. That's what they say they want some sort of anarcho-primidivistic lifestyle. Yeah, so that's good. So that's perfect. But why they posted about it still? You got
Starting point is 01:18:56 what you wanted. Oh, but still whatever. Listen, man, you don't hate on people for posting. We got, you got, he's still, they just want people to know about how they're, you know, they're living the dream or whatever. I feel like that anybody who's out there, I like those people, those ones who are like living that life for real in the set. Like, you know what I mean? They're not going into the like bank and they're not going to like the grocery store in the same way. Yeah. This guy goes I stepped on a yellow jacket. Sometimes they have to from time and time. I've been stung my regular bees before. There's no big deal. The yellow jackets are a different kind of pain. But you're telling me they
Starting point is 01:19:33 do. It's the people who are like going around living their life in the city and refusing to put shoes on and trying to go to establishments. One of the stings was on the side of my foot. So the thing must have gotten inside my shoe. That's that's a person. That's, come on yeah this guy goes that's some kind of unlucky reminds me of the time i jumped into a small pond barefoot and not realizing it was a not a pond but a ditch with boards full of rusty nails you're not you're not i bet you it's funny he's still a lie so it's very funny he said seven holes and a regiment of tetanus shots but a free pass on driving the tractor for two months on our farm i don't know sorry i shouldn't laugh at them so the visual
Starting point is 01:20:31 picture i get ah yeah yeah this guy goes oh so true i can remember getting stung by those little shit heads as a kid leaving my swimming classes uh as an adult i usually swap them to the ground and smushed them barefoot with the ball of my foot because he had a foot injuries, but I wasn't able to drop the tractor, so he got to relax on the farm. Actually taking a huge chance. It is. Let's do one more thing here. This guy goes, are there many places that do not allow entry barefoot?
Starting point is 01:21:08 Hi. That's a chance. I've been thinking about going to the museum barefoot. The problem is, I don't know if they'll let me in without choosing at all with the yellow jacket, I feel like. I tried posting on Brazilian subs, but my fellow Brazilians simply ignored me or thought the idea was horrible. That's why I came here. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Now, this is a very, I'll find somebody's going to do it. That's why I came here. That's something. That's it. You're just kind of. keep going until you get the answer you want but yeah it's not everyone I tell you but I also love the sentence
Starting point is 01:21:56 it is because even though we're from different backgrounds it's not a chance I won't be able to enter the museum and then this person goes just email the museum and ask you they say no ask them you are in your mind palace that prohibits bare feet there usually isn't one and often they're back down it's almost beautiful If they say they don't, if they say they don't want you in their establishment, press them a little bit and try to force your way ahead.
Starting point is 01:22:38 That's, I mean, that's like next door where it's like, did anybody hear that bang? I love just going, yes, I heard everything. I saw that dog. He's missing. he's over here yes i heard a noise yes it smells weird you know i just want to be on when i was doing street fight you i would always have this conversation about these sovereign citizen guys from where they're like oh the maritime law and all that shit and it's like yeah you have the pleas are just going to tase you anyway like i'm just going to go and just encourage
Starting point is 01:23:07 bad advice everywhere yeah i'm allowed to tase this guy in his car this guy goes uh you might not be allowed in a lot of businesses where i am require shoes although you can always get a pair of shoes with no soles or bottoms and wear those would likely fool most people i'm allowed to fuck this guy up i get one hit let's go That's the best shit so far. That's some Dennis the Menace level thinking.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Decoors, where you're secretly barefoot underneath. I mean, man, that's really like escalating things in a bizarrely non-avoid, bizarrely avoidant way, but still purely insane. Wow. That's one of the smartest ideas I ever heard of in my life. nobody knows a lot of like legitimately people that are crazy they don't surprise you often right but that is truly some surprising level thinking that you can do whatever shoes you want you just buy your shoes that you like and you cut the soles out of them right so you can do whatever you're like oh oh how do you find the shoes no you just buy normal shoes and then you cut the
Starting point is 01:24:39 sole you cut the bottom part off of it and you stick them on and you put them on like you normally it's not that hard it's actually super easy man there you go the guy in a way so these are a real thing they're called incognito kicks
Starting point is 01:24:58 they're uh they look like they're real bottom of the venue like showing the bottom of his foot like just kind of kicking it back and be like I can run through a marsh right now
Starting point is 01:25:13 I can go 40 miles an hour through the mud. You have no way to stop me. This guy goes, just bring a pair of sandals just in case. Museums are kind of hit me miss, especially those displaying modern art, are frequently in by lots of art types. And maybe we'll be used to all sorts of unconventional clothing choices. Bear feet wouldn't be the weirdest thing. But others, especially the touristy ones displaying traditional works from super famous artists,
Starting point is 01:25:42 may bam bare feet out of fear of scaring gullible tourists away. You can, of course, make a scene. Yeah. I can't think shirtless. Yes, it is. I think leaving your house without a shirt on is maybe the top craziest thing I can think of. They're like, it's not going to be the weirdest thing. What's weirder?
Starting point is 01:26:12 yeah but at least i understand shirtless right sureless isn't weirder what no it depends if it's fucking older than 20 years old yeah yeah if it's super hot outside if it's super hot outside i mean it depends like yeah where i live it would be weird i guess but like i think in some places if you live in some beach town or whatever it's the summertime i think people are walking around with their shirts on well i mean i agree with you i'm not a i don't i don't i don't love walking around seeing people you know walk around with their shirts off but i think it's let's just say it nobody likes male nipples i don't mind it as much i'm just i don't like feet really i like
Starting point is 01:26:59 so i'd prefer to see somebody with their shirt off than their feet and then they're uh yeah then they're no shoes as long if i can tell they're like enjoying it it does bother me Go be a while, man. If they're enjoying too much, you know, like, oh, man, loving this. I just don't like the look of it. I just don't like, and like you said, it's like, I don't know. It's like there's the smell. Like, I'm just not a foot person, so I respect guys.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Like I said, the way that I fall on this is if you're a big outdoor kind of guy, yeah, go have at it. If you're a weird, annoying guy, I hate it. And I do think if you're out in society wearing no shoes and no socks, you're, you seem weird to everybody, kind of. And people are already putting up with. you know yeah and i realize that you there's always a chance some busy body knucklehead and it's just they're nasty and had you taken a look at the museum's house regulations if being barefoot isn't explicitly forbidden there especially if footwear isn't explicitly mandatory chances are you won't be a cost of course chances are also they simply did not encounter
Starting point is 01:27:59 barefoot customers yet and thus didn't think of implementing a rule explicitly against us take your pick of what's more unlikely and then finally here's a little bit of advice for yeah well this guy is this is our last post ago when you enter the establishment and encounter the ticket taker make and hold eye contact with them this cost is causes most of them also maintain eye contact with you and they don't look down at your feet if you look down so will they and there's a greater chance they will say something about your lack of footwear so make that was doctor soft powers where a crazy hat is a really good good enough just keep i can keep we keep staring
Starting point is 01:29:01 directly at him that is yeah people people are never off put by that at all We're like a Chiquita banana-style hat to really distract them from your feet, you know. Wearing a crazy hat is probably one of the best one. That's a good idea, Branson. Yeah. If you're wearing a crazy hat and those fake bottom shoes, like you're allowed to do that in my opinion. The crazy hat, it's like should be, yeah, like really high too. So it gets them looking up versus even down.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Oh, I want it to be a real hard. high hat like super high up there so he's like he's looking way up there there's no chance you'll even sort of see your foot in his periphery or whatever distracting all right well that is barefoot guys people have been asking this one for a long time uh so it's a beautiful hat yeah oh thanks so many people wanted this episode i'm not sure i think it might be some dog do out on the uh on the side of you would not believe some white mushrooms in the other suggestions i did so i'm just
Starting point is 01:30:06 why who the listeners name and name and shame name and shame listeners we don't know their names we get a lot of them i believe we like some of them i'm not going to name it but some of them are so like suggestions one guy doesn't you know what i mean you kept making that you know what i mean like they're really bad ideas up here for us it's thankfully it's like there's not you know it's just a topic so they're not like people aren't some of them are bad but most of them are fine yeah we get two types of recommendation one is you guys should do black wheelchair guys right and we'll go no we can't do black wheelchair guys we're not going to explain why and then the other one is just like you guys should be moderators of an anime forum here here is a
Starting point is 01:31:06 link of these guys here i think it would be funny if you did an episode and it's just we delete i deleted the whole channel and so that's the on the e1 podcast check it out though the good ideas that they come up with on their own and they are very funny and for those of you don't know the podcast it's you guys are doing a different podcast every time essentially doing different characters seven years ago that was kind of the idea yeah but now every episode was a different But really, you know, now it's just like a different thing every hour. Sometimes we'll do scripted, but mostly improvised still. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And that's, yeah, so give your, where do, and where do people, sorry, I was too note a little bit on my phone there. Where do people send the suggestions in for the E1 ideas? Because I have a couple of good ones. So you're going to send him to my co-host, Andrew Hudson. Oh, I know him. At Intelligence. So DM him your episode ideas, and then he filters it.
Starting point is 01:32:03 he'll kind of workshop with you a little bit too and he'll kind of bounce from my ideas back in there and once you're kind of polished the idea by riffing it through with Andrew then he passes it to me and that's when I call your cell phone and I'm like this is a huge honor for you we need you on the episode
Starting point is 01:32:18 your idea was amazing no I like doing stuff with Chris Brian and I went Ryan and I went on an episode once we were wrestlers on it I remember it was a lot of fun yeah we got to get you on another one yeah maybe just have Brian on he's a little pissed off because Y KS asked me on my own.
Starting point is 01:32:36 So maybe just have Brian on, you know, he, he needs a W. And all joking, and I'll let you end in a second, Brian, I promise. But it is always funny to me is like, I do feel like sometimes they'll ask Brian and I to come on, like very rarely. It's mostly Brian, right? And then it feels like I'm kind of like the younger brother, you know, it's like they let him bring me along sometimes. Yeah. I think it's coming out. I guess don't know when.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So I do appreciate it. I think, I don't, it hasn't come out yet. Maybe we really had a, maybe we really bombed it really bad. But we did a show. We did a podcast together. Did I guess I won't even mention the name right now because it doesn't come out. Yikes. It's Gareth Reynolds' podcast.
Starting point is 01:33:23 And then, yeah, we did Chef Kevin's as well. And, but yeah, I'm, I'm, just have Brian on. I'm going to do, I'm doing YKS. and Ryan, I don't need this Brian, I don't need it, buddy I don't need I'm good I'm pretty busy anyways
Starting point is 01:33:39 honestly so you take this one man you take this you go you hit it out of the part he ended it

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