Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 138 - Rave Guys with Tony Boswell

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

We had our friend Tony Boswell (WordIsBondTv) on the show to talk about his new project (support him) and Rave Guys. What even is a rave? Should a new father go to one? Should we be tipping bartenders? What is the one problem of the Shrek Raves? Are there satanic people making you satanic at their raves? Finally, a 50 year old woman describes what a rave is. There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. And you know what I wish I keep doing this lately and it drives. I wish we could make like. I wish we could make like. When we do an episode that has a music thing, we could make the theme that. This week, we're doing rave guys and Chris is here. Hi, Chris. So, sorry, do you, but, so I would do that. Can you make a techno version of the theme? Okay, you want me to, you want me to make a, so you want me to use samples from the actual theme.

Yes. And then make it turn it into a, okay, Brian, you know what? In my mind, my mind is you just put drums under the theme. Okay, Brian, I, I'm going to go ahead and promise that to you right now and most likely forget about it and not do it. Well, it's already too late if you didn't forget about it because it's already played. Everybody knows what happened already. It's crazy how much more you know as a listener than I do right now. I'm so in the dark on everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just told Chris next week's episode is penis guys. on Sunday. And he was like, oh, okay. Well, let's get our guest on here. He's been on before Tony Boswell. Hi, Tony. What's up, guys?

I'm glad to be back with the fellas talking about guys. I'm very excited about this particular topic. I didn't know what it was until a second ago. And I'm fucking pumped on this. I didn't put my candy on. I wish I would have put my candy on before we started recording. Oh, yeah, that's the thing, right? The candy necklaces.

is. Now, did you this is, did you even say it was rave guys? Not yet. I did earlier, but but I think what I want to say is Tony is the guest for rave guys because one of the, not the last time, but

the time before I went to L.A. You invite, the, this, because I go so often. The time before the last time I went to L.A. This is not fair by the way. I want to say it's not fair that I like, I'm, I can't, I'm not. I can't even go to L.A. anymore because of all this insane shit that's happening in your

and so it's kind of unfair now I'm going to feel like yeah it must be nice yeah you know honestly like yeah you don't get to go to L.A like have fun with everything else about not being American and you get to enjoy yeah but Tony I want to go to L.A. I want to go to Melrose I want to Sunset Boulevard, Hollywood. See celebrities. Oh, I want to, the last time I, when, you want to hear a celebrity story. Holy shit. So Stefan and I were in a, Stefan used to live in Hollywood.

Stefan, from a past guest, Stefan Heck. And we were in, yeah, we were in 7-Eleven and by his old place in Hollywood. And who did we see the guy who used to go on the street and tell people to vote for Howard Stern? What was that guy's name? Melrose Larry Green. Melrose Larry Green. And we saw him causing a huge scene in the 7-Eleven and making the workers' day much worse. So that was kind of a cool Hollywood story.

The last time I was in L.A., I didn't see. I don't. The only celebrities I see are podcasters, you know. And Tony. I saw a celebrity. But the time before last, Tony invited me to a rape. But it was the night I got there. and I hate being out late.

So I said I might go and it was very close to my hotel. But I chickened out. And let me tell you, I've never been to a rave in my entire life. And as a matter of fact, I'm going to say this about it. Well, this is because of my regressive nature. When I was younger and raves were taking off, I believed that they were gay. And I also believed that ecstasy was gay. it is well it did famously make a guy's do you know French kisses on each other when it wasn't really a thing that was sort of happening any other time so I can sort of understand that I I will say Brian I thought a lot of stuff was gay oh god goodness Lord well it's because everybody said it to me and like I read in I remember reading and spin and this isn't anything I knew about I didn't know that there was gay stuff going on

at raves at all. Like, I didn't know at all what was going on at raves. As a matter of fact, all my rave information came from my brother who went to raves and his friends. They all went to raves. I was like, oh, it's going to those gay raves. I'm going to go to these heavy metal concert and rub up against a bunch of sweaty guys. I'm going to go to these. I'm going to this hetero metal concert to fucking hang with my boys, you know. Roop full of guys too. I'm going to I'm going to a thing that's like 98% guys. Yeah, no doubt. The rave is definitely having a lot more of different sexes there without it.

But Tony, you are now, you went to a rite. And this is not that long ago. So you've been to like raves recently? I go to raves every once in a while. Actually, I actually have a funny stat that I don't think anybody else in the world has. Brian's actually not gone to two raves with me. That's true. That's true.

Yeah, because we did a live show. And they were like, we're going to go to a rave after the live. show and I was like you're gonna go to a rave after a live show I'm gonna go to the hotel and that rave that rave was awesome and it was like a couple people who came to the show and it had such a good that was such a good time we were all like VIP and shit for some reason except for one of the people who was with us like was real mad that I was dancing and I'm like we're we're at a rave and they were like can you not do that I'm like we are on the floor at a rave like what do you it was it was so funny but yeah you've bailed on

two raves with me i'm just you know you don't get a third chance i'm asking some unfortunate news for you tony there are a lot of people that don't like dancing at raves a lot that get kind of mad about it we'll probably talk about them a little later but yeah i just don't like being out all night like i recently had to stay up all night and i've talked about this a thousand times it was my brother's fault i just stay that's why we canceled this original podcast i just stay all night recently and i mean when he when he had a medical when he had it when he fainted yeah when my brother fainted at a rock concert you mean he had to go to the hospital you mean he had to go the hospital yes he did have to go to the hospital that was the issue you should you should

have maybe approached the hospital like some people approach raves maybe you should have like taken some mdMA um maybe some other other you know recreational drugs to really power through that hospital stay well yeah now i also got recently yelled at about the way i actually at the hospital i got yelled for that last night so thank you yeah well maybe a little mdma and could have could it could have helped help to help jill maybe a little mdama then potentially well i just wasn't talking but it would have i just think maybe yeah you probably would have been talking a lot more maybe even cocaine i know that i'll get you talking but but i i've never been to raves either i grew up when raves were like huge you know like people it was like when raves kind of started it was

when I was younger and I sort of I didn't feel like they were gay I didn't have that sort of attitude towards them I just didn't like dancing and I felt like that's what those were or places where people went and danced and I did like to take ecstasy I did like to take MDMA you know mushrooms and ecstasy hippie flip we would call it but I would just like I would just go like do something I would go listen to fleet foxes they weren't even around you idiot but but the I don't know when they started they could have been around he could be lying to me no they were at all but I I I just would you know like maybe I would go I don't even know what I would do like play video games maybe would be something I would just go like hang out with

friends I got a party or whatever but I yeah I always thought raves were dancing I'm interested to find out that some people were all like that were actually are actually anti-dance that pisses some people off okay so yeah we went to so at first of was like man there's no rave subreddit you know oh let me explain me why let me explain to you why because it's r slash aves get it do you get that is that sometimes they oh that's a good one i know somebody somebody was like fucking absolutely flying on drugs and they came up with that so oh my god they got a bit happier and they got in early with that like that's yeah that's the impressive part. Yeah, because they could have, well, no, I was going to say it could have been

A-A-A-V-E. They took the A-A-V-E page, but they didn't. There's actually a R-A-A-A-V-E page, too. So here's a question somebody asked, and it's just only two, there's only one. I only have a couple of things. What is A-A-V-E? Is that a pornography thing? No. Every time you say a thing, I assume it's pornography. You don't have to take, you don't have to take responsibility for this, you are you are not american so this is not your responsibility but it's african-american vernacular english oh i did know that i didn't know that yeah but i know that i just assume i always assume though that that brian when he brings up something like that i always assume it's like a sexual pornography thing anal anal anal what is ain't no this is the episode before being as guys

somebody clipped that somebody clip bry don't clip me saying anal all over and over so this guy goes like this. This is a question that it's going to come with a little bit of me in it. My wife is due one month after EDC, which I believe is the electric daisy carnival. That's right. It started right here in San Bernardino, California. San Diego, California is a mecca for raves. It's, uh, it was the orange show. Grow up going there for, for, uh, just like fairs. And then also when I was like 16 sneaking out, going to a rave for an hour, getting cop on my mom's parent. by my mom's friend and getting picked up immediately

yeah shout out Cramino and raves so wait what can you can you tell me exactly can you tell me what a rave is but like what makes it a rave specifically is it the length of it is it like what just makes it not just a dance party or whatever just a party

I think it's really yeah it well it's it's the music it's the music it's usually at night it's also the plur. I know we're going to talk about plur. I know we're going to talk to plur man.

What's the plur? I decide what's blur. Oh. Okay. I would let you be the arbiter of plur. Thank you. It's peace, love, unity, and respect, you dingus. Peace love unity and respect.

I mean, that's all day and all night. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You want it. So it's a positive kind of space, right? Sometimes people use plur to jump. testify some not so great things is there fighting at raves would you say Tony like are people fighting each other people are buying drugs and doing drugs so yeah there's fighting yeah here's so this guy asked a question that I found very interesting it's uh he goes my wife is

due one month after EDC is it okay for me to ask to go my wife and I are expecting our first child mid-June so I know my festival going days are somewhat numbered I haven't go to festivals regularly for seven years and my wife and I will certainly miss the scene I went to EDC Vegas last year and was such a blast my wife will definitely not be going this time what do you think I should do is this kosher of me to even consider would love to hear your thoughts parents now I have to recuse myself because I did go to several concerts in the time in that era of pregnancy and stuff you were extremely selfish at that time I saw she was nine months and i saw i saw primus one night i know and then the darkness the next

night and the darkness going to a dark the darkness show so and the primus one was the more pathetic one because it was like this it was like i know you told me it's cool if i go to the dark because you know my wife she's you guys both have met her and hung out with her she's not gonna say know she goes i go i know it's up to you to it's up to you to have this sort of i know i agree with this now yeah yeah well i don't know i think sometimes but yeah i think you're obviously a lot better now you wouldn't like if you were do you think right now in your life like if you had a child you would act differently the primus thing is interesting because they were playing frizzle fry in their entirety so it was kind of one of those things where it was like they might not

do this again. They're not going to play frizzle fry in their entirety again. And you got to hear frizzle fry in its entirety. That's true. I can just picture your fucking like pilled out ass explaining that to gay, you know. No, that's the one with too many puppies on it. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, you love too many puppies. Like you're like, she's like, I don't know really like brother. That was I learned that was a lesson it took me so long to learn not. I remember one time I was like, you love Soulfly. Why don't you just go to this solid sepeltura that started as Sepulterr. It's Max Cavalera. And she's like, I don't know who there those fucking guys are. Like, but I was like, you got to go with me because I figured if she didn't go with me,

she'd be mad at me. So, so anyway, this guy, the first answer he gets is, I love this answer. This is very plur answer. L.O.L. your fault for impregnating someone. Deal with it. Oh Okay, I think that's not Yeah, that seems like really confrontational Well then this guy goes If you want to pay child support and alimony Depending on your income, go for it

But I would not And you knew the answer It's your first child Fuck a festival No judgment Which by the way The whole beginning of that comment Was judgment

But the kids now number one You didn't know how they Like you didn't know how they were made so he that was just a good so they're mad about they're they want people to be childless it seems like or some it seems like that's like you lose waivers yeah when you're when you're when you're when you have kids you're not you can't go take a bunch of drugs you're investing you're investing in future waivers I look at everyone who oh that's a good point good point everybody who like leaves these comments are in like the worst relationships I know like if you have an answer it's because

you're in a terrible relationship and you only know how to do with your you and your terrible relationship partner where it's like i listen i know exactly what my bitch wife's going to do and uh i i assure you you should not deviate from what uh what i would do to appease my bitch wife yeah because it's they they do seem to have a negative i mean it's you want to pay all the money like this guy's like hey man you're going to get a divorce yeah like he's telling the guy's gonna get a divorce like he's just saying he's just asking like hey should i go to listen i would say i just had a kid as everyone knows and you went to ret several raves i won't stop talking about it and i i think that if you and your partner sometimes there can be things where it's like hey

she could be like go to this because yeah you're not going to be able to you're you were having a kid there there's a few things like that i feel like i can't i can't like think of a specific thing where where area was like no you should go and see this because you know once we have the baby yeah maybe it's cry sure i saw that more recently though you I'm sorry I've been bragging a lot about going to the Kreischer show I talked about the bonus episode I saw Kreischer outdoors he ripped his shirt off he came out to doloo do loo do loo do loo um box a born made to wave the fly it was wild then and he had horrible energy sorry Brian guys here's some energy here's here's a guy with some good energy but now Chris this will remind

you of jam band guy episodes okay and Tony you'll love this I think is it just me or was this couple kind of non-plur slash bad vibes so last night I was dancing at nocturnal wonderland I dance with passion and I dance very physically I can I can tell already that this person is a problem you know like this person is going of like Elaine style, you know, like just or just, just really taking up a lot of space. Oh, yeah. And yeah. Yeah, because listen.

So he goes to the point where my body is covered in sweat. I also dance shirtless. So see. Now that I think, I was hated that in a mosh pit. You know what I mean? Which they do those at raves now too. But like I remember, hey, like that Tony, you have to remember the feeling of. sliding off of some shirtless guy at a fucking metal concert absolutely yeah one of the worst

feelings you can ever i do have to admit though there there is there is like one picture of me pitting with no shirt on um from actually not that long ago which is the crazy part it's probably two years ago it is a balba show and and what's your what's your explanation for like how do you how you defend yourself here we were in la this is an i e band i had to show off my ellen empire tattoo i had to let people know what it was you were it was it was yeah it was uh me doing what i had to do as a as a uh ogy as an unc as an unc hardcore unc i had i was obligated to do it there's just certain things you have to check off i did it once i'm good i'm never going to do it again how do you think people reacted to it do you think did you feel like people were like

avoiding you fear um some some people were i think were turned on by it um tony's big by the way tony's not like a small guy you know you're sitting down so i can't tell what can i get a height check on you uh you know i run around about uh six four 265 you know is that really is that really true he's very tall and big i mean i didn't i didn't think you were small short like i i probably clocked you like this thing now you thought you were around like my like six one or six two or something like that that's wow so you're a big huge guy I'm a big dude so you know like the cool thing is when you were big dude they kind of just stay away from me anyway so nothing slid off me you know yeah yeah but yeah I at a can I clarify can I clear one thing up about

this topic so like we're talking about raves right I'm going to go ahead and be that guy who's like I still go to raves and by raves I do mean like warehouse parties and they're talking about festivals, which is like an EDM thing, and it's like a whole new thing. And the difference between like like raves and like warehouse parties and, you know, festivals and like raves is that the lamest person you know is going to a festival and they're taking their shirt off. And that's where they dance with passion energy because they don't, it's, it's just like you're there for a vibe. And like you like the DJ, but all the DJs suck. It's all bad. And I'm being very like Elite is here and I'm aware of that and I embrace that

and I think everyone go and take that approach because go to a warehouse party. It's a totally different vibe than say a what was the Nocturnal Wonderland. I have no desire to go there. But have you been to one of them? A long time ago when like

so when Electric Daisy Carnival transitioned from being a good fest like a good rave to like a bad rave I went to like first year and I was like oh this is I don't like this. Yeah. Well, you're not in a, I mean, you're not in a minority of the people on the rave subreddit. Like, I think they would all rather go to an illegal party.

Yeah. I hope so. Then, uh, but also he goes, you're expensive as fuck. Oh, I know. So it's rich people there mostly. Yeah. I don't know. He goes, suddenly a couple with some other people stuffed around me really tight. Now, I want to point this out. You're in a crowd, brother. People are going to stuff around you really tight. That's just the way things are. There's a bunch of people. And he's going to complain about something that I actually have some experience with, too. He goes, so I just kept vibing with the music as I do.

And this girl was standing close without paying attention that I could not see her. My arm gently brushed hers. When I make contact with somebody by nature, always give a sincere sorry and smile to them. So I do just that. I rubbed sweat across her arm. She looks down at it and never at me and doesn't say anything except, ew. Next thing is later, like 15 minutes. minutes. I guess her boyfriend does the same thing and I gently brushed him with my fingertips as I was

moving around. No sweat this time. I apologize and say, sorry, bro. He just stares with no response or smile and moves on. I don't know. To me, it just felt like a very non-united, non-loving couple of people. They were cold and did not strike me as ravers, just people there. Um, so at, at big arena shows, too, at big arena like concerts like metal shows that in 2000 or 2003 would have fucking been insane everybody's just standing there what i think that is is that is because they're expensive so if i paid this i paid $145 to be on the floor at a deaf tones concert per ticket not just for me for both of us you know and um the last deaf tone show i went to probably paid like 60 50 dollars per ticket and the place was fucking insane you know what i mean like the because they're a great band

and they're great live and their audiences go fucking wild but these last two i went to there's almost like no pit it is like the people and this happens at the jam me and chris have read this about the jam band stuff too the people that get to the front are not fucking leaving like they're going to stay there they're not moving they paid whatever they paid $145 to get to this thing

and they're just like I paid $145 this is my spot I'm not moving for anything so there's really no pit at any arena show that I've been to in years and I think the same thing's happening now that they've kind of

legitimized raves and made them like festivals instead of like illegal parties. You know what I mean? But people are still on a bunch of MDMA and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's the whole, that's the whole, that is the thing, right? For a lot of people or is it like, like Tony, do you do you take drugs when you go there?

Yeah, I usually take some drugs. He's clean. You know, it depends, it depends on like, you know, the vibe. But yeah, I'm usually taking a little, a little bit of drugs. but most of the time people are taking drugs you find like or like like i'm trying to get a i don't want i don't want to say everyone does but the majority of people you would say they're usually in by and and drinking it's like it's like it's drug kind of me that kind of music is like the kind of music that you enjoy on drugs it honestly to me feels like and this is just me

i'm an asshole it feels like the only way you could enjoy that music is behind drugs I just don't like the repetitive. It's like a repetitive thing with me. You know what I mean? You prefer. You like it when they, you're like, why is nobody noodling this out for fucking 10 minutes?

Like you like when they take one note and noodle it out, right? I like when a guy is like, I don't even need a guy to play guitar. I saw the Wu-Tang clan. I loved that. I had a great time at that Wu-Tang Clan concert I went to. I knew people to be doing stuff. He's okay with El guitar.

He saw who does it. Well, because people will say, because people will say, well, there's a lot of music that's not with guitar that is really good. So I had to say, I've seen killer Mike. I had a good time. I've seen shows, right? ASAP Rocky, schoolboy cue. I've seen all these shows live without even. But I still, I still need them to be saying stuff or like.

And it's a regressive. It's a close minded thing about me. and it always has been that like the first second because I I talk about this on the POD cast sometime like when I was growing up I read Spin magazine not Rolling Stone spin because it's the hip one at least if you're in Groveport you know it was cool it was cool I like I like spin back in the day man in the second time the second they started talking about techno I was like there's just there's no world in which I'm going to like that I just hated I hated the people people, the way people looked that not, listen, that comes off a little wrong. But I hated like

the style and stuff like that of the time too. You know what I mean? We would make fun of it a little bit. Like I feel like my friends and I would make fun of it a little bit. We would do the thing where we would like, you know, we do the like obviously like just sort of mocking the music a little bit. But we would do the passing the ball thing a lot, the imaginary ball. Uh, do you, are you It's like, you know, like it was like sort of a thing like you're going to have to demonstrate. Yeah, you pretend you have a ball and like you're holding it. And then you pass it on like roll it off to someone else. And they have it.

It was like some thing that we somehow learned was like a rave, a rave thing. You know, like somebody either lied to us or told us truthfully that that was like a rave dance move. And we did love to do that. Like we thought it was really funny to start doing that. The thing is I did Molly like right before the. pandemic for the first time of my life. Congratulations. Oh, thank you so much.

I was also on mushrooms and hot. I was doing all kinds of stuff, but I remember thinking, if you didn't do Molly, would we have had a pandemic? That's a fair question because it was 2019. So I tried it and I was like, oh, man, like this is just like all the other stuff I missed out on because I thought everything was gay in 1998. Yeah. Listen, I don't like to advocate for drug use, but yeah, the, I definitely had a lot of fun when I would take MDMA out to a lot of fun.

And I would take, yeah, mushrooms and MDMA and a small kind of amount of both or whatever. And I would always have an absolutely fantastic time. Sometimes the crowd gets tighter and it's rude to be the one guy who refuses to take up any less space, especially if that means spring sweat around a bunch of people who are probably only closer to you because they got squeezed. into an empty spot. This is true. This is the, so of course somebody disagrees with that. Disagree.

If you move into a space where someone already is, you take what you get. Some people. What do you mean? So they can just, so if his space is huge, though, he's, he's doing, he's doing a dance tarp basically. It's tarping in a way. He's creating an imaginary tarp beneath him

by dancing so wildly and smell. so badly, I would imagine. Oh, God. Oh, just insanely bad smelling guy in my mind, the guy I'm bitching. And so he's just like creating this force field around him. And then it's just like, this guy's kind of saying like, no, he's in that spot. But it's like, well, he's in that spot. He's also in that spot.

He's also now in that spot, you know. See, you can't go to his spot. I think there's a couple people to blame here that aren't necessarily the dancer. For one, the DJ. If dancers are not in the majority, then you're not doing your job. That's fair. And two, the boyfriend, sir, you're in a crowd. Why are you not having your, your girlfriend in between your arms, like facing the same

direction with your arms draped over her shoulder or even like kind of creating a border around here, around her? Why is that not happening? Classic cool guy move. That's the classic. You even care about your partner? Yeah, that's the classic badass move. No, yeah.

Of course not. Can you imagine that that's a, I imagine you doing that like badass, like from a movie cool guy like you know draped over the girl thank you that's my it's my favorite but when i sorry just to be clear when i imagined it i i burst out laughing in my mind well i'll say that i took a lot of great pride in the fact that my wife moshed at the time you know what i mean yeah that's cool yeah yeah that's awesome man she's in the pit going fucking crazy just like everybody else you know so i to go out of pride and that. But I do also understand, I don't know, like at a rave, I would think, and listen, I don't

know anything, that you'd be kind of dry humping behind her. You know what I mean? Like, what do you guys doing? Yeah, you would be, you would be horny. Everybody there is horny. MDMA does make you horny, I do feel like in a way. So I do think that there is some truth to that. But yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I guess you're out in public. I mean, I would imagine it. is a big thing where people are getting way too sexual with their dancing at raves and stuff like that. Rave dancing isn't the horny. It's a lot of it looks really stupid. Like a lot of it's not really horny. Like the like the stepping they do, like the, not the two step they do.

Or have you seen gabber music? Have you seen the gabber dancing? No. It's, it's, it's learned about shuffling. Yeah, shuffling. It's very not sexy stuff. It like, rarely, like, the coolest shuffle barely looks cool. It's still pretty cringe.

And, like, it's all pretty bad dancing. You know, mostly I think it's just like a like a two step and like a little nothing too horny. And if there's horny stuff going on, that's because it's horny stuff. It's not necessarily because of the music. But people are horny, but you think people are horny, but not dancing horny. Not dancing horny. I would be like their mind is horny, but their body is being like regular. I'd have my little pee pee through my zipper.

what to hell that's not that's not plur that's not that's that i would i don't know the scene that well i would imagine that that's very much not plur my man it would only be for my wife yeah okay cool cool cool this guy goes i know i'll get hate for this take but in this subreddit but honestly the whole plur idea has just gotten out of hand to me i love concerts and shows as much as the next guy my lifetime concert count has gotten over 150 at this point which is nutty you're doing a Can't? Concert? I mean, whatever. Like, teacher. I just, I guess I've never considered doing that. I stopped at the amount. I stopped when I started throwing my ticket stubs away when it got to a round. I remember. I was like, I've been to 23 concerts. And then after that. I don't know what happened after that. Yeah. I stopped after physical tickets because I stopped keeping them in a little shoebox.

Yeah. I don't even, I know. I stopped keeping them before physical tickets went away. I just was like, I had this like, box. At first I had like one of those baseball card cases that you'd shove the tickets in. I shoved the tickets in, but they would like come apart because there was a lot of tickets and I didn't buy another one for some reason. So like once that happened, I was like, I'm just throwing all these fucking things away. And I threw them all away except for the two I have. I still have him somewhere in this house. I have Jonathan Davis's autograph on one again. He wrote HIV and made a happy fix with it.

I remember. Do you get it? I have Fred Durst and he signed it Fred Biscuit. And I think he signed it the day he owned me for asking about the white pony. I love when you got owned by Fred Durst. He got your ass. Many people love when I got owned by Fred Durst. So you guys, I've gotten over 150 at this point, but there aren't some special set of rules for a rave.

We're just people going to a concert together. Just treat people the same way anywhere else and you'll be fine. the idea that plur is some legally enforced rule set that is different than how you should act literally anywhere else is ridiculous long story short yes you're overthinking this i kept that because i think it is very funny to like to say listen you might think this comes off as very uneducated i've been to over 150 concerts so yeah i went to the school of hard knocks if you would but for but you know through concerts here's one you guys are going to love I've noticed the broccoli generation doesn't understand the general public LMFAO very

Is that the broccoli hair Like that You don't understand how much they Do you blame them? Do you blame them? People who aren't comfortable enough With themselves to dance in public Hate those of us who are now

That might be a little true I did always I would go to the club I did go to clubs. It was called the Yucatan Liquor Stand was the one I went to a lot. Oh, so you went to one of the more high-end ones? And I would stand. I would,

I'll step back and show you guys how I would dance because I didn't want to dance. But I wanted girls to rub their butts on my penis. You know what I mean? You want to get grinding on. That was what I was looking for. Now I'll stand up and take the thing off. Yeah, you. Okay.

Okay. So he's, he's, I mean, it seems silly. His arms aren't moving at all. So he's kind of like, he was kind of bouncing up and down, but your arms, so you, you didn't think to ever do any arm movements at all? Because I think that that would have helped out just like any sort of arm movement at all. No, because I didn't want to be perceived as dancing. Was, was the grimmest part of the dance?

Uh, I didn't. Like, you're like, I'm not, I can't be having fun. I'm reluctantly here. Tony, you hung around with me. blood on me. You've been on tour with me. You know I never want to look like I'm having fun. That's true.

It's true. That's, but you were, but you wanted some, you wanted a girl potentially to start rubbing up on you and then, and then. So that's why I would kind of move. It would,

it would just be kind of, sometimes we get the shoulders going or the head. Yeah. You know, but like I never do a thing. Right there you were doing. Yeah, the head.

The head is something. The head, you weren't doing anything with the head or the arm. So it was really. strange the dance you were doing i never wanted to be perceived as moving a lot or gracefully did it ever work did it ever work for you did you ever manage to like bring a girl home for a three hour no no nipple sucks i i can remember one time did you disappoint any young one of yes i think i did a few times because like i i do remember times where like

a woman would come up and they'd be kind of pulling on me to do stuff. You know what I mean? And I was like, whoa. Yeah, yeah, they wanted to dance with you. They wanted to dance with you at the club, right? Yeah, but they were trying to puppet me into dancing in a way. And I was like, that ain't happening, sister. And dancing, you say puppet, like, sometimes dancing does involve, like,

the people holding on to each other and one leading or whatever, right? Yeah, but I don't think we were doing salsa dancing. Okay. you were doing sex dancing when when i was a when i was a kid i was in elementary school i went to a catholic elementary school and they were going to have a dance for the six seventh and eighth graders and um the the priest at the time very publicly stated at every mass of that sunday that we will not be having a dance because dancing leads to intercourse and brian what i'm saying is you fucking blew it i go so many times you have no idea if they were if they were even coming

over to you it was not because they were dancing it's because they liked you And, you know, if you would have only known. I would have looked silly dancing. But he wasn't interested in intercourse. Yes, I was. This is years after that happened. He was, his mind was elder. Please, please, I ask you, I beg you, Brian, to not snort into the microphone.

Because if I use a compressor, I have to physically take it out. I apologize. You do it right into the mic. This guy goes, this guy goes, you need to start putting LED glow sticks or something bright and colorful in a circle around you. to indicate that you are a wild dancer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is tarping. This is, this is tarping. Well, you can't do that.

Well, it's preferably far enough in the back where it's not really an issue. I think, I think there's maybe an opportunity here. Maybe we sell, like, lit up hula hoops, and we sell them as like rave guards, like dance guards. But large, extra large, they have to be big because we'll call them safe spaces. That's good. That is good. I feel like, I feel like for, certainly, if you want to sell me one that's going to do me any good at a rave, this thing's going to have to be 50 feet, you know, it's going to have to be gigantic because my space, I just, well, the thing is I get like, like, my dancing is like tied to my emotions and my emotions are wild, you know, so I get out of control. Would you say you get like a little primal, like you kind of just like, oh, regress back to the tribal.

I would say, like, if people can't handle it, if you can't handle me at my. you know worst because yeah I I get quite physical and aggressive as well I punch that's cool me too let's go I crowd kill I crowd kill you okay crowd killing at the rave is crowd killing at the rave just people like pluring it up like you know on Molly and just donkey kicking them just yeah I crowd kill at the rave this guy asked the question this I wanted to get to a plur thing. Now we're at a plur question. I served you guys for over five years

across multiple festivals. It was suggested that I tell y'all about gratuity and electric daisy carnival. Now, he means served booze. Yeah. Festivals and raves. Okay?

He goes, hi, everyone. Little heads up. Bartender split everything except for cash. The example I used in a comment was so you really like me and you want to tip me $14. Each bar set splits. Each bar set splits their tips among themselves,

which we get zero proof of, nor can we see our tips at the end of the shift. So we're entrusting the company not to fuck us. There's usually anywhere from eight to 28 bartenders in a bar set. It just depends on where you're placed. So in this case, we will call it a 14 set. So I will get $1 of that 14.

Then I got to give 20% of that to my bar back. and then 28% goes to taxes, leaving us with 32 cents of that generous gratuity going to the person you actually wanted it to. TLDR, cash is king, and we hook up those who hook it up. Now, this was not received well by R slash AIDS. I think it's like, yeah, it's a little bit just kind of like they're not interested in all of that fiscal stuff, right? They're like, they're vibes, very vibes based.

so you're coming in here with all this fucking concrete money type shit it's like really harshing the the vibe well it's like that's really good advice for just every day any bar you go into but see it's where i don't want i don't want societal rules telling me what you do i don't want to be told i got to tip somebody for their labor you're not pouring this drink for the love yeah it's for the love thank you it's like so we can all get a little closer to each other maybe oh i see what it is this is you want some money from me okay i get how this is i gave you a bracelet that BFF forever and you you're still mad I mean $14 is quite a tip that's a great I would say like a tip but you're expecting more they only they only they only end it with 32 cents

which seems I don't know man that seems fucking I didn't listen to all of it because when people start doing math stuff I I too know but but it sounds to me like a $18 tip only getting 32 cents that seems like that's couldn't be legal or okay wouldn't want to do that this guy goes I always tip one dollar per drink not order but per drink i get i think if everyone did per drink i get i think if everyone did at least one dollar you'll be compensated well and then he that's a really that's a really small tip isn't it the drinks are like seven or eight dollars so right so he's just like if it's a set that's not a good tip but you're doing it all night over and over again so this guy goes also if i can get two drinks at a time and you let me pound one and order another with i

going to the back of the line, that's a $10 tip on top for you. Okay, so this guy's an alcohol drink. This guy loves alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm a minimum. Two drink maximum. Okay. Let me drink one

real quick and give me another one. Now you get $10. Listen, if you, if you like, enable me, I will give you $10, no problem. If you help me out, if you call my wife and tell her that I'm just fucking hanging out with the, like at a work function.

And I'll give you $28. If you tell my wife, I'm sober, okay, what I'm going to need is your phone number. And then when I get home and my wife says, God damn it, you're fucked up again. I would need you, need to call you and say, I'm sober. What do you mean? Why would you do that? Because I'm going to give you $36. Listen, I'm going to be pretty drunk when I get home.

I'm going to need you to fuck my wife. Yeah. Okay. Now, that's a $45 tip. now that is something we now that is something brian and i can talk about oh yeah yeah i know you could i mean why not go to freedom acres if you're out in californ that's not a bull that's a bull situation don't know this is not a cuck situation because i'm going straight to sleep when i get home that's fair it doesn't i'm not okay you're gonna have sex of my wife in the bedroom you're

pretending about me too i don't even have to watch i think for it to be a cuck colding so anyway we don't we don't talk with my voice i do it my doing an impression of me Tipping culture really is annoying. Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time or risk losing cash while I'm tripping just to make sure you get a better percentage. I'm sure you still do fine considering you're basically serving a never-ending line of customers. I agree with that guy. I know it's wrong to say tipping culture is annoying. Sometimes it is.

I'm not saying all the time. I don't mind tipping. I tip all the time and. Well, because you have to. But I mean, I tip all, I tip all the time, I would say, well, there's maybe certain circumstances, but the way I see it, and I think most, a lot of people, we probably feel the same way about it is that like, hey, it sucks. These people are not being fairly compensated and they should be. And it's sort of up to, you know, decent people to pick up the slack. It should not be, but it is.

And those people deserve to have a living wage. So, you know, you can participate in that. But yeah, I mean, in Canada, it's probably the same exactly in America. is obviously, you know, gotten completely wild where it doesn't even matter. The one that I think about, I'm going to a White Caps game right after we record this. So there's, there was, there's a self-serve thing at the, at the White Caps concession where you just come up and do it yourself and it gives you the tipping thing, you know, and it does seem, listen, I'm pro tipping, but it seems a little bit wild to be leaving a tip to the computer.

You know, I'm not actually a big fan of the computer taking all of those jobs. I don't think I should leave the computer a tip. And that does insinuate that that. that just the cooking staff gets that tip, but I don't think that's what happens. Oh, Tony, there's no cooking staff. This is just, this is just, uh,

for like snacks. This is a snack bar thing. So it's just, it's essentially a big vending machine that you go to and you know, you can pick out like, you know, peanuts or whatever, candies,

bottle of water, that type of stuff. So there's no, no preparation whatsoever. You are literally tipping the computer. Now, now I totally agree with you there, but Brian is making an argument that maybe bartenders fall in that

category. I disagree with. with them there entirely. I'm not making that argument. That's what I'm asking. I need. Yeah. Let's clarify.

My argument is a thing that doesn't involve food or drink. Right. And you go to a thing and they just didn't turn the tipping off on the machine. And you're just like, I don't want to, I hate, I will never click no tip ever. Yeah. There's just no way. But there's some places where it's like, okay. Like, I bought a.

shirt here like who am i even tipping at this point a retail a retail tip does seem a little bit odd it's like why are we when are you when is someone else going to pick up the slack here and pay these people proper wage because it's like this is getting a little crazy we can't be we can't be as as just regular working class people we can't be funding every single other working class person that we interact with you know i like this guy's dollar it's the same dollar it's the same dollar I like this guy's post. Tip the merch people. Tip the merch people at concerts.

Yeah. I'll do that. Yeah. Anytime, anything like that most definitely. But I'm talking like you go to a store. And you're also talking about not the situation in the question at all. Yeah, yeah.

No, yeah. You were talking about just tipping culture. Brian was talking about tipping culture being annoying and just happened to bring it up in the, in this example, which is about a bartender where, listen, they live off of tips. And I got to tip bartender. I love this guy's. post that is very not plur. I'm going to designate this post not plur. I'm sorry, but I don't really care. Maybe the furthest thing on my mind at a rave is how you split tips. Well, that's honest,

though, but that's honest, right? Because you're on a rave. You're like on it. You're on drugs. You're vibing to the music. You're thinking all kind of plur. You're probably horny in your mind. You're trying not to let people know how horny you are. And so it's kind of hard to be thinking about tip breakdown. Now, I'm going to give you guys a great guy. A great. Here's an anti-tipping argument. Now, you got, it's three posts here. Okay.

Okay. The first guy goes, tipping a freaking bartender? What a joke? Wait, whoa. That's, it's like one of the main tipping things. Like historically through history. That's one of the ones. What a, one of the one.

What a joke. You're literally doing your job by serving drinks. That little. This guy doesn't understand anything. You just wait for his justification. He's new to everything. Sorry, Brian. He continues.

You've got to hear his justification. That little interaction shouldn't last more than a few seconds to a minute. So he gets a reply. That mentality works for European shows. If you're American, you're just making people in the scene look like assholes. So the guy that said tip a freaking bartender, what a joke. He replies and goes, I mean, Trump nowadays. is already making Americans look like

assholes so shrug emoji oh so he's just like let's just fucking act like the emissals everyone thinks we are and they all think we're stupid anyways might as well give them what they want

if this is how you're going to express that you're black pill then you're not tipping anymore I'm okay I'll take that I guess I think it's funny I think it's funny to be like, this is somebody to say, well, we, it's, there is a tipping culture, whether you like it or not, it exists. And, and industry is put up like that. A guy just goes, yeah, but Trump already makes us look like ass. Got his ass. It's a good excuse for a lib, though. Like, you'll, I'm surprised you don't see that more with like lib guys that are like doing a deep. anti-social thing and then when somebody calls them on it they're like Trump already makes us look anti-social oh I would tip you but you get tax on your tips

and that means I'm funding in genocide so yeah you're gonna pay you're gonna actually pay tax on that aren't you to Donald Trump and sorry you're giving that tax money to Donald Trump the fucking big orange man and me thinks not no I will not be I'll not be funding Donald Trump's campaign let's take a look at some ticket master reviews for something called the Shrek rave. Oh, um, it is a Shrek themed rave. I don't like that. I'll tell you what.

I don't like it. I don't like it because it's like I'm not a big fan. And I don't, I don't want to be judgmental, but I'm just not a big fan. It's like, you know, taking a raid, but it's like, it's a children's thing, right? So it's like, grow up, grow up. Don't be doing your drug party and having it be up, you know, from your childhood memories or whatever. I just think that's kind of weird.

There are a lot of jokes in Shrek that are there for the adults, though, too. It's true. It's true. I mean, I'm not saying I don't remember Shrek. I think it was probably fine, but I think it's a children's film, right? Is it not? Yes. I, I, brother, I've never seen Shrek and I never will. I refuse to watch children stuff when my kid was little. Holy shit, man. That's badass, dude. I'm like one of those guys. I'm like one of those guys. It's like, I don't talk to my kid like a baby because that's not how things are in the real world. Yeah, I told my kid how it is. That's what I do to try. You know, I try to explain the charts.

like yeah no you fucking pick it up this is all it is in the real world you get your ba-ba it is fun to make fun of babies for how bad they are it stuff oh my god my baby is so so so so you know incapable of doing most everything it's insane it's crazy the way they are three stars shrek rave at the ritz and raleigh i've been to three shrek raves now what's cool three you go one time as you A joke, maybe. Hey, I think somebody might, somebody might have their Tinder bio.

Well, I like the next line, too. First one in Myrtle Beach at a House of Blues. Now, Chris, you might not know about Myrtle Beach, but it's where people from Groveport go. Yeah, I've heard of Myrtle Beach. To pretend they're in Florida. Yeah, yeah, I've heard of it. I've heard of it.

It's in South Carolina? I believe so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never been. We went to Hilton Head because of my. parents thing is like there's golf at hilton head so it's more of like a middle class upper middle class place of like they didn't play golf just to be clear my dad plays golf but did not play on vacation because my stepmom wouldn't let him play golf stepmom wouldn't let him play golf no

she also didn't want them bowling for a period of time they had to fight for that that's like his passion i mean bowling and cruises and cruises and cruises not cruising cruising we have bowling and golf and cruising were his three things he liked to do and and she tried to take away uh she's saying like i'm going out bowling because okay so this is the story i've been told not by my dad this is rumor around the house as far as i know you you haven't thought to maybe ask go to the source and ask your father i heard this through the rumor mill you've heard this story about my dad through the grapevine I heard this through the rumor that he went

they went out to dinner before a night of bowling and they went to this place called cahoots which is a titty bar with food you know what I mean so you're yeah and who now who picked that for dinner do we know he says the other people but that didn't help because then she was like I don't want you hanging out with those other people oh i see did was she at the dinner no and one of the people was rick one of the people was rick who was my dad's best friend and uh she was just like i can't be hanging out

with rick anymore unfortunately rick rented the shoes at the bowling alley brian can you imagine katy trying to tell you that you're not allowed to hang out with somebody I mean, that might be why I'm psychotic, to tell you the truth. That might be why I'm the way in my relationship that I am. Why? I just remember getting with Katie and being like, you're never going to tell me what to do. Like, that was like one of the early things I said to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're never going to tell me what to do. She told me that you looked your dead in the eyes and said, listen, Rose before hosts. I probably said something close to them. I know I told her I'm not going to be pussy whipped very early on, right? You would have been saying shit like pussy whipped in bros before hoes 100%. 100% Kweber would have been saying that shit. He would have been like fucking sketching it into his fucking no-book broze before. I remember, I'm not my fucking dad.

Yeah, that's right. You're not your dad, Brian, because he ain't bold a 300 game. I have the, I have the ring for that. It's from him. He goes, first one in Myrtle Beach at House of Blues. That was by far the best. Music was a great mix between EDM stuff and actual EDM mixes of the Shrek soundtrack. Oh.

The two Shrek raves I've been to at the Ritz have been mid in comparison. The turnout is never that good. And this one that just passed was... No, I hate the idea of that, right? It's got to be a big turnout. You show up and it's sparse. I know. And it's Shrek.

The Shrek rave and you're fucking, like, you're flying on fucking everything. MDMA you're just like so fucked up but you show up and it and the crowd is sparse and you feel green and you're like a green like shrek yeah you're totally into it doing like fully like you've been waiting for so long and you show up and the crowd is sparse that would be one of the like most brutal fucking nights do believe we get some numbers in here by the way okay uh wait because there was one that i think said it had 12 people oh that's that's not that's that's That's a number where you feel guilty leaving, too, right? Like, I remember when I was doing, like, open mics.

I would go and there would be so few people that, like, I didn't want to leave at the end. You got to stay for a minute longer. It's just like they'll see me leaving. Now, you just got to leave. You just got to become a guy who leaves. That's what I did. I just wouldn't, yeah, I just left. I just would leave for sure.

But I do remember, yeah, I remember doing open mics. I used to tread the boards, Tony. And properly, I used to actually do it. But I used to do open, I remember like the guy who's running the show. There's like so few people in the audience. And there's this horrible thing in comedy where you show up to a show to do a set. And you enter through the door and you see the look on the like the organizer of the event. You see the excitement.

And then you see it wipe away when he realizes it's you who's not an audience member, but just another performer. And he's like, oh, great. And the amount of times you would see that doing stand-up, like 10, 10 times a fucking a month, easy. I mean, when the number is small enough that you think that if you did leave the DJ would feel sad, so you just stay, that's a brutal fucking Shrek rave. Yeah, totally. If you feel like, hey, I want to leave, but I feel like to DJ might, like, stop the music and, like, say something to me if I do it. what you're doing? Hey, where are you going, brother?

You're coming back? You're going to get someone else or you're meeting somebody outside? You're coming back, right? Yeah. He's got people out in front of the place on their phone saying, it's the Shrek rave. It's a rave with Shrek. He goes, she goes, has been mid in comparison. The turnout is never that good.

And this one just passed was less than the last. Don't even know how the DJ were for the last two. We need GrooveCube and Sinova to the Ritz. That combo was amazing. Overall, the music needs to be better and more Shrek themed. Better and more Shrek. That's the problem.

Yeah, this is a trend right now, and they're awful because there's like a Shrek rave. I saw a Twin Peaks rave. Spongue. Miserable. SpongeBob rave. Instead of having a theme rave,

maybe just have good DJs. Maybe just do that instead. What's your theme was? Good DJs. rave oh tony how about how about some fucking music is like nz donkey donkey yeah i mean i i i do feel like i was just like they say they want the music to be better and more shrek themed and i feel like that is difficult to pull off to have it be better and also more shrek themed i think you sort of lose

some of the better when you add the shrek here's a three star they already played seven remixes of all star yeah well yeah here's the three here's a three star you title mostly rave some shrek yeah i would sum it up the shrek rave as not as advertised pros first everyone was welcoming no one cared who you were how you were dress or how you dance that could be a negative though too i mean nobody cares everyone there was having a good time no drama just love the costumes were great cons house music was played for the first third minutes. And when the Shrek part started, it was scenes played on a screen behind the DJ. I thought there would be like costume contests and overall more crowd interaction.

The crowd made it Shrek. A few songs from the movie were mixed in. A little more thought into the theme would have gone a long way. They did play the Shrek songs. I don't know how many Shrek songs there are. I don't have like a number for. Oh, right. Well, hang on. Sorry, we can't write some more. I mean, we can't Bring somebody out to rap Have somebody come out and do a Shrek rap Yeah, I mean, Mike Myers

Fake fan fiction songs Yeah, Mike Myers is still around Eddie Murphy's still around You know, you get samples of their voices or whatever And you, you with the, you know, the powers of computers Now you can easily make sense Well, we don't use AI around here. We're really anti-AI.

I think you're making Shrek like fan fiction Shrek music I think it's a mandate. I agree. And AI is really good for if you want to animate Chuck Norris jokes. I bet. Perfect for that. I bet. A guy goes, so two stars for the price, shrug, but honestly could have been better.

So online, it looked like it was going to be a lot of fun. But being there, drinks were very overpriced. One drink was $28 for a solo cup size, which tastes. I paid $28 for this drink at the Shrek ray. You might want to do some drugs if you're going to. That's a low moment. That's a low moment being like, you know, like what, sorry, 20 is not covering that? I mean, I'm also wondering, well, they're going to say the number here.

But how many people that are at the Shrek rave have ever been to a rave, or even like a festival? Like, yeah, like, are they just Shrek fans? Are they just fully like Shrek like? insane Shrek fans who are like thinking of this is sort of like hey this is going to be a Shrek event and I go to every Shrek event yeah it's it's mean kids it's kids kids are there for the meme

like it's it's most of them that's why three is wild because you go one time for the joke you go one time for the plot and then you never go again and you talk about how how fun but stupid that thing you did was because yeah it does cost like $65 for a bullshit thing

I think some of them must like some of the must like Some of them must like Shrek. Like some of them must have these. This guy who's going back three times must be like obsessed with Shrek. Yeah, that's crazy. Because security was a little overdone for an event of less than 75 people. Not even.

That's a small event. Dressing up and dancing around with friends. It wasn't bad. But if you're expecting a banger, you're getting more like a high school first homecoming. People are mostly standing or off to the side. Plus a lot of Coke head sweating. Just a bunch of sweaty green coquins at the fucking Shrek grave.

Oh, what are you going to do tonight? I'm going to do a bunch of cocaine going to Shrek grave. Sweet. Sounds like fun. Yeah. Hey, Tony, could you do us a big favor just like the guys podcast? Could you, if where do you live? I live in the California, the Atlanta Empire.

so you live in okay so I spent a lot of time in LA could you go to like if you if there's like a crazy you know themed rave no could you know you can't make people do that no I can't do it I was asking him I was asking him if he would do it

if you would do it to come back on and tell us about it you know because I'm really I understand I'm looking at Shrek rave and seeing if it's coming to Vancouver yeah like I will go if one goes to Vancouver if one comes of Vancouver I will go and do it because I'm just like I'm I'm genuinely sort of fascinated with what that would look like like what it would actually be like there's 19 of them coming up they got one of I don't think there's any Canada ones you guys

probably have walls against it or whatever oh yeah the closest that's getting to you is Seattle yeah and I can't yeah very close to me I could drive there in 45 I have a passport I just am afraid to come to your country I don't blame you there aren't any around me either thank goodness uh so anyway this guy goes two stars last year was better what's the point of having a theme when the djs are just going to play the regular rave music they literally did a taylor swift song last shrek rave they actually remit shrek songs the crowd was way more excited and danced back then yeah the crowd would i mean that makes sense that that is crazy to me that they don't do the shrex

songs at the Shrek rave. It's like the magicians, Chris. You can't always be doing a magic trick at a magic show. You can't always be playing Shrek stuff. But did they, but did they, they said they didn't play them at all or maybe they just were there for like a short, like only for some of it and they didn't hear the Shrek songs potentially. Yeah, maybe they left early. Maybe they left early.

This, this guy goes two stars. Could have been so much better. So we get some helpful criticism. The idea was great. The people were great. The show itself was underwhelming. There was no video board or any visuals really behind the stage. Only the always there screens above the stage where you have to look straight up to see.

They just played the same very short video on Luke the entire night. I wanted to be dripping in Shrek. Same with the... I wanted to be dripping in Shrek is a real good line. It's a really good lie. Same with the Shrek quotes added in. They were few and far between. I thought it would be constant Shrek references.

It's a Shrek rave, right? Many times it just felt like a random DJ set at a club. I had a blast, but it was an underwhelming production. Meaning zero Shrek. Meaning, and also he's like, I had a blast because he was high on drugs and just still had a good time. Yeah, yeah. Three stars, fun visuals, but the DJ played little to no Shrek music. The only music from Shrek he played was like the.

instrumental track along with the words of a non-Shrek song all the that's a whole Shrek that's a whole Shrek song you can't say that the music from a Shrek song with somebody singing other lyrics over it that's a Shrek song yeah and that's what DJs do man DJs are mixing you know this sounds like this sounds like that DJ is extremely creative and I might want to go check out one of his shows because all all the attendees understood the assignment everyone was dressed to the nines in shrek characters and the DJ couldn't read the room and did not give the people what they wanted which was songs from shrek there's only like four there's only like four main characters in track i don't know i would

i would do anything for them to give one of these people the reins of the shrek rave like just pick a guy that gave it like one star and seven say it's yours put together the next shrek rave and i'll bet you it will suck so bad be terrible there will be people watching shrek because that's what they really want to do yeah they want to go and watch shrek dance to all star you know i'm kind of worried uh i'm i'm i'm djing tomorrow night and it's not as shrek themed like anything but i also have no shrek songs on the set list make sure you get some Shrek there I might need to just get some Shrek songs

on the set list anyways You should just have an alternate Shrek song Just have a couple Shrek songs on there Just in case Like obviously sort of break glass In case of emergency If things start going really wild Then you sort of get the vibe like

I don't even know Yeah I can't even reference a song Because I don't All Star I guess right All Star is the is from it Okay here's the last one I'll take a gangster rap song and use the beat from that and play the lyrics from All-Star over it. That would be hilarious and so good.

So these next two things are different, but they're going to be a theme. So this one is one star and it goes, this was not worth the money. The DJ was mixing up anything because she knew the crowd would dance to anything. We were her Pinocchio on a string. I want it out of that swamp. I was waiting for a swamp reference. Insanely weird, like review for a rave that's Shrek themed. I found that.

So that means I went to, I went back to the subreddit here. This guy goes, uh, I've been giving up so many opportunities to see bangers because the level of negative energy wafting off the stages is gruesome. L.S. Dream sold his soul. His latest songs, very materialistic. Excision is big on demonic visuals and the lyrics are getting creepy from so many artists. Not sure if it's always been this way.

If it's only that I want to protect my energy better now that I'm becoming aware of it. People put themselves in vulnerable states by doing drugs and sikes, then stare at an altar projecting images of demons and monsters. I'm sharing this because I want us, I want us dubstep loving goons to stay loving. Remember plur? So this guy is very weird. He gets a reply and goes, I was wondering when the next time one of these posts would come up. calm down drink some water touch grass then reconnect with reality it's just visuals on a screen loud and more edgy music has more intense visuals if you genuinely believe ls dream and

excision are spreading the message of satan and harvesting energy i don't know what to tell you because to me it sounds like drug-induced psychosis but it sounds to me like this person is maybe also become like very religious it does because he goes just as a word used to downplay the truth dream big it's always deep. So this guy is needs to like not do a lot of drugs. I think he did a lot of drugs and then went Christian, which is the worst kind of Christian. That's the scariest. That might be the scariest type of individual. Somebody who gets their mind altered by drugs and becomes extremely religious. That is fucking scary to me. They'll look at you in the eyes and the orange to tell you that they've seen Satan well like that's why that's why they're there but this guy you got to you got to

kind of respect this person because this person believes this is happening and things to the souls are and they're still they're still showing up still running the if I really believe that I'm probably not going I feel like maybe there's like when you're maybe they're an older person there's only so many places you can go to take all those drugs and got you know yeah I think it does become like a desperate for older guys to be like I can't just be doing drugs every day anymore. Yeah, it's my excuse. You know what I mean? And that is a time that you can go do drugs. It's perfectly normal because I know like there were times in my life where maybe I was using acid too much. Like I spent like a whole summer doing it every single fucking day. And you're pushing it. You were only, you almost did too much acid there. And my mental health at the end. And my mental health at the end. of that summer was not good.

It was way better. I was not doing well at the end of that. That's the first time that summer was the first time I went to the emergency room for a panic attack. Yeah, it feels like that is a, as somebody who's taking, you know, hallucinogenic drugs a lot and maybe for like periods of time, mushrooms less, you know, not as serious. There's always LSD for me because I was too broke. Yeah, I feel like. I just couldn't get LSD. It was it mushrooms you could get.

But yeah, the, the, it seems like that would be a bad idea. It would just create a lot of confusion in your brain. I know. You would confuse your brain a lot about what's real and what's not. If you're just under the influence so often. Also, dropping the acid at 10 p.m. every night because I didn't get off work until 10. So you would do it and stay up all night. All night.

Yeah. Awesome. That's when I was like the nightmare neighbor, because like me and all my friends worked until like 10 o'clock so we'd all come back to my apartment and fucking party every single night and every single night yeah they say the best thing for fighting psychosis is not sleeping yeah oh yeah that that's the thing it really so how much sleep when would you go to sleep like how long would you sleep for i would sleep probably from like eight o'clock in the morning to like 2 p.m. so probably more than you sleep now but I was on a ton of drugs all the time you know what I mean so like it was a different kind of sleep when I moved out of that place it was so trashed I had I told this I'm probably on street fight at least I one night was like I need to go to sleep and I needed to block the sun out of my bedroom so I went got a pizza box and I unfolded

it and I taped it. You've told me this. Yeah, I taped it on the window. It didn't cover the whole window. It just was like right in the middle of the window. It didn't change anything about the light in the room. So I fucking ripped the drawer door off the closet and leaned it up against the fucking window. And like, it was just like that forever. That's the room I slept in where I was filling Mountain Dew bottles with cigarette butts when I was done smoking. And it was just like a hellhole. I was not doing well that. summer so like i think i have one bad trip though and was like i can't do this anymore and i stopped and then i started doing it again a few years later doing it a lot and then you know once katie got

pregnant i was like i don't think i can do lsd anymore but now i'm thinking i might do it uh when was the last time you did it it would have been before it would have been before katy even got pregnant like so over 20 years oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i think it would be fine to do now i just am kind of done shy on that kind of stuff these days but I do want to do it because you know the ketamine thing really helped my anxiety and I've had mushrooms that really help my anxiety so like when you have one of those big breakthrough trips yeah it can sometimes help your anxiety well yeah it sometimes can I think maybe sometimes I've also heard stories of where LSD can not be helpful in that regard at all it could actually be actually the opposite of helpful.

But, hey, I mean, I agree mushrooms. Like, I'll micro, I'm going to take, you know, 200 milligrams of mushrooms when I go to the White Cubs game tonight. And I do find, I've said that before is like, that is the drug where it has made me feel better. That is the only drug I've ever taken where it has made me feel like this connection to people around me and my community and, like, where I have been done with it. And I've been like, I feel better.

And I feel like that actually was helpful to it. It's the only, only drug. everything else is i've always taken to escape and uh whatever work because i've been addicted mushrooms is the only one that's ever been good well this guy goes it's gonna be okay fam they're just visuals and he gets a reply from the op and goes hey it's okay just a little satanic demonic visuals just selling ourselves a little bit so this guy is really worried about demons he's got man cow mode is what i would call yeah he might i was going to say he might have actually started listening to old man cow episode because this sounds like the cow this might be man cow he goes do you

this guy goes do you truly believe that seeing a silly visual is selling your soul even a tiny bit l m ao and he replies and goes no of course but going to his show is totally different than seeing something on your phone so he's saying like at the show that's where satan is you know because it's like it's like a ritual you know what i mean it's like it's is a little bit more like a satanic there's all these people around watching so it's it let me tell you this next guy does not help at all which is odd on Reddit

he goes listen to today's rap music then get back to me on dark and demonic crap big tripping on this one my guy I'm sorry I've never heard big tripping either but he said big tripping like he's saying he's tripping

big on this big on this big tripping on this big tripping on this my guy is yeah not I can already tell somebody who starts talking to me like that. That's somebody that is not going to be close to me and my friend or whatever. Also saying, have you listened to today's rap music? Have you listened to the hip-hop lately that they're doing? I mean, it's just insane the stuff these guys are saying about ladies behinds.

I mean, it's just funny. It's one of those, like, you're like, be a little, be a little less racist, bro. If we're going to talk about demonic music, you're going to, okay, sure, 36 mafia. yeah okay sure i don't think you're talking yeah i don't think you're talking about yeah i don't think you're talking about but like why are you not talking about like cannibal corpse like yeah no because music is kind of metal music is the one that you kind of you know i mean they literally those like those fucking norwegian guys or whatever who were like blowing up churches and one of them was you know their names like pentagram and stuff like that yeah well here's a guy that replies to him with with some

encouraging words. When you go into Satan's domain, you best bring your sword. The universe expresses itself in infinite way, so naturally there will be pleasant and unpleasant experiences. Life is all about learning and moving through them. Also, how can you speak on someone else's experience through the lens of your own and determine they sold their soul? And he gets a reply and goes, thank you for your words of wisdom, which I feel they did. What? That was the rave promoter. using a burner, being like, actually, you should go to the raves so you can save people. Yeah. Bring your sword to Satan.

Is there, I'll ask you that. Are there Christian, I looked up Christian raves after I read this stuff and I couldn't find one. I found one mention of a person who said I went to a Christian rave because I'm clean. I'm sober. and then I never could find any other instances of a Christian rave. I think it's because like we talked, you know, like there would have to be a sober element to it most likely, right? Because a Christian rave, they wouldn't have, they wouldn't have drug use.

They wouldn't want drug use. But they drink. And that's just, it's an important part of it. Yeah, I guess drinking. I guess drinking, but yeah. I don't know, there's Christian Rays, but Christians love raves. Like, you're, you're like basic, like, mega church, uh, you know, modern, modern baptists, like, uh, crumble cookie eating individual, like they, like they love

raves. So like Christians love rays, but I don't know about a Christian rave. I don't think it's possible. This guy goes, it's really not that deep, but I know what you mean. Don't say that to this guy. That is dangerous to be like, I know what you mean. He goes, some people don't care, some enjoy it. Some especially those who are religious might not like it. I personally don't mine. What I'm just trying to have a good time with good vibes. I would rather see happy visuals with positive lyrics rather than demonic shit. If you know what I mean, he gets a reply. Well, that's fair though. This is where this guy goes off the rails. It can always go deeper. I was annoyed by how prevalent it is. I can't seem to find any heavy dubstep shows that don't

promote it. I just want to head bang and mingle with molly heads and not feel like they are trying to harvest my energy. And for some reason, it's he, he does t h e y like like uh uh with the dots between him i'm not 100% sure what that is but it makes me uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah the guy i went to dub i went to dub step show that's one that i used to go to dubstep shows when i was younger definitely and i guess like not screlex you know just like local stuff in vancouver uh and like drum and bass shows i would go to dmb shows as well and i do feel like that type of music you know it's like a little it's a little it's a little less like just good vibes type

music you know it's like it's aggressive I would I could yeah and I could see that like having those types of visuals and stuff and that but I do understand that person saying if you're at a rave that's this happy plur place and they're like showing demon faces and like just dark imagery

while you're high on drugs it's like this isn't actually the way I want to trip like I don't want to actually that I can understand like not saying that like it's it's actually demonic and it's doing this stuff but like hey it's just kind of a bad fucking vibe at this type of thing. But I think that the sound like especially listen I don't know what excision means at all. I don't know the artist or anything like that. But I would say if I was invited to go

see a thing called excision, I think I would immediately think like this this is death metal is what I would think. Yeah, excision doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like a happy name. Well, this guy goes quit being soft it's not that big a deal it comes with the territory of listen to this type of music the artists aren't there to cater to the people tripping on drugs that's your responsibility wait wait wait wait wait wait what the last part what no idea the artist is not there to cater to the people dripping on drugs now this is news to me because aren't they not are they not are they not kind of like yeah yeah like this is what i do i guess like maybe yeah like you said we don't know this music that they're talking about excision and stuff like that i guess it's maybe not like

happy music so it's you should if you should expect it then yeah if you should if you know who it's going to be in their vibe and then you're complaining about it that's fucked up that's stupid this is the final comment we'll read and it's from the op and he goes see what i see what you're saying but it's quite the opposite if i was soft i'd say it's fine i've had some wonderful life changes over the last few years that have led me to living a positive productive life i freaking love heavy shows and i want to go to have fun dance and maybe make some short-term friends i don't want to go in with spiritual armor to protect myself from getting programmed, then have to detox in case I carried out anything nasty. Okay. So, yeah, no, this person's like it. This person's a real

loony. Here, let's do, uh, Quora. Why does listening to techno music make me feel so good? music touches the soul the difference between electronic music techno and vocal bass music rock rock pop love rock rock rock rap pop and for some reason love you know love music you know

love music romantic music like I want to lay you down sweet honey yeah I only listen to heavy metal when I'm fucking yeah we know you jack hammer oh man you got it you got to check out I need a ladies down sweet honey it's it's a fucking love bob it's so good honestly it's like and you can hum it as well

brian likes it ryan like his big i only got the one song he his big move is the perfect song it's the humolingus he likes the humolingus you know where he gets humming on that sucker and what is it what is the song it's deftones it's root which starts out by going see it's gross when I do it because it's what I do on the show so I feel like I'm kind of doing it you know you kind of pro tip try my name is mud by Primus next time they get some going crazy oh Tony Tony you're a Hummer as well everybody is that's my song my song is the as my name is a Hummus as well wow everybody hums dude that's the fucking way to be good at Conalingis

surprised you don't know that buddy some of us don't need that hum you know what i'm saying i don't do that though i just don't even do that because that's kind of gay i don't some of us don't oh you some of us need don't even need to do cunnelingus because they can get a girl going with just you know their penis i'm learning a lot about penises wait a wait a second wait a second wait that doesn't track at all so you're already you're saying that you don't have to give her kind of like it's because you just go straight to having sex and I'm good at it yeah but it's a different thing why you don't understand that well you know I mean I'll talk we all make

love our own ways mm-hmm true he goes is uh the vocal bass music is that it doesn't force any thoughts into your head it enables you to create your own emotions this is the beauty of electronic music and the reason I say that that electronic music is the modern day classical music. And then he's, he put in parentheses sympathy. And I think he meant symphony. Symphony.

Sympathy. He goes, I started listening to electronic music in 1996 when I was in the fifth grade and have since listened to it exclusively. I fucking love it. And all the different emotions it creates within me. He hasn't even heard any of the other music type since that. Like, I mean, I guess, like, like, he's never even given a chance to stuff. Like, I, I say I tend to like a certain type of music.

Maybe ambient music right now is what I listen to the most. But I'll definitely listen to other stuff. Let's read this last one from this lady who's furious. And I just want to read it. I forgot I had it. And he goes, what are raves? This person goes, maybe a good one. Good one to do in the beginning.

No, because it's psychotic. It's very long. Okay. Because raves arrive with the invention. of heavy dub hip hop music. They were basically an event or big party that played only that music. So you ended up in a trance because of the reputation of the same heavy beat. It was also when we discovered ecstasy.

So a club would put on a rave or actually just a someone in a venue. You would not be notified of the venue until about an hour before it started. The internet had been invented by then. Raves at the time got busted a fair few times for illegal ecstasy use. We had our share of how to handle ecstasy at a rave. We danced in a trance and we're in love with everyone around us. But we all forgot how much sweat we lost and we were encouraged to drink all the time. Not alcohol.

Plain water. If you ever see someone swoop in their hands at their chest to head height, including your grandmother, those people have been to a rave. We danced like that back then, late 80s, early 90s. You young people make me laugh because you think boomers and Gen X are dumb. No, we're not. not were ultra cool we invented the internet social media gaming smartphones Dolby stereo and portable music tell go tell a group of young kids like oh you don't think I'm cool well we invented Dolby stereo and just see how they all start fucking a high five in

your ass Dolby stereo is a crazy one yeah that guy he goes without our general you guys would have nothing to play with hubby laughed his head off in the building supply store a conversation with the young fellow that checked out his purchases when something like young fella i do some extra work for cash and you go hubby that's good you don't pay tax on it and the young fellow was like you know oh you know about that oh m g hilarious boomers and gen x used to wait what wait what that's a that's not a story that's hilarious i also know about the gig economy like what what do you mean like what do you like the kid was stupid because they didn't they thought they didn't know about the not like not taxing stuff it's yeah oh it's a really bad like it's a really bad example it's like it's really confused it's actually like um yeah it's like crazy to put that in the middle of this thing my husband all the innovations you're talking about like at all my husband what cracked up at the building supply store yeah like why are we telling that story I'm really confused about like because the kid didn't okay sorry ohmg hilarious boomers and gen X used to do that so it's funny that you young people accuse us of being stiff and boring we did what you were doing now 50 years ago yeah so did every fucking generation ever and then they got old and fucking lame like we all do this is this is how life works so of course we know you don't pay tax on cash money that's why we always offer to pay your our plumber electrician work

in cash if they choose not to declare it they won't pay tax our generation work like that all the time so it's funny to think we don't know about everything you guys are doing today your grandma they don't but we don't but we don't that's only one example the tax thing i there's a lot of shit i got no fucking clue what the kids are up to 15 year old kids they're talking about shit i got no fucking clue i'm not like i feel like this happened like today and they they they're really upset about it yeah yeah that's why this because this makes no same like a parking this is like a parking lot post or something your grandma was one of the first girls ever to wear a miniskirt we boomers and gen x invented them in the 1960s and we reinvented

platform shoes and boot cut jeans so there's probably something in your wardrobe now that it is a version of what we invented then we were oh oh cyclical fashion wow what an amazing fucking concept you old idiot we wore miniskirts and cut off tops to raves but not in the street. Rock chicks were the first ones to wear leather pants and skirts and fishtail stockings with shorts. So you guys are now wearing our club gear as normal dressing. That's funny.

They just asked what a rave is. What do you do this? To know what a rave is, you need to know where a rave came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like you ask somebody a story in there. And they're like, well, let me take you back to the day I was bored. Well, now we get there, they get back to raves.

I only went to a few raves because hip hop is not my favorite music I'm a rock chick Whoa Wait wait What is that out? Interesting I'm a rock chick

But the ones I went to I remember having a great time And being totally out of my box The memories of Gen X Two upvotes So Worth it One of them is a self-up vote

Yeah It's like when I Just want to be there It's when I accidentally posted the crying, laughing emoji on Tom and buddies, fucking TikTok. Three times in a row, Chris. It's Brian Quinby, three laughing emojis. Brian Quinnby, three laughing emojis, Brian Quinnby. Why did you do that?

I don't fucking know how it happened. No. So it's on there still on which posed? I don't know. It's the Jeep one. See, you can delete that because I assume you messed up. So we deleted the two extra ones. I mean, you crazy.

i don't know how so uh i think we're getting near the end and that's nice because the baby is tony you're launching some new stuff tell people what's up yes um so after eight long years of million death cold um we had so much fun but we reached it we had to reach it and we decided i need to start something new uh so last week i launched word is bond tv um the podcast it's fun it's just what I'm calling it is a an in-depth analysis of the Zichai's through the lens of haters that's I'm kind of having a bunch of different guests on people

who are haters so of course I'm going to have to get the both of you on very soon you've got to get Brian on I don't think of haters I'm not a hater so I won't be able to make up you're you're a certified hater Brian is a big time hater he's always hating on my ass you should have him on you should have him on for the main big time hundred

episode he's the number one a eater in the world yeah i'm gonna do it uh you can find everywhere word's bond tv that's my username everywhere too i decided just roll with that um yeah but available episodes available right now uh got a little patreon running little cool stuff going on over there where's bond tv.com uh check it out tony's the best check it out because yeah obviously you guys know tony he's on the show regularly on bonus episodes and stuff as well and yeah he's sort of like part of like our family in a way of like the same podcast and stuff so yeah go check out his stuff and support tony and just wait for that episode with brian i can't even imagine it's like it's going to almost be hard for the other haters to come on because this is going to be like

these guys don't even seem like haters compared to this other guy because this guy is the biggest hater i don't hate anything and yeah just before you before we go gen x invented haters like my my uh my they were telling this to my wife at home depot Oh, you ever heard of Bill Maher? Bill Maher, the first hater. Man, Bill Maher is going to be on in a couple weeks, so definitely check out the show. I can get it. Bill Maher is the guy who I, sorry, I actually am the one who has to go as well.

But Bill Maher, I used to, before I realized AI is going to destroy everything, I was using AI fake voices. And the one that I got absolutely perfect was Bill Maher, like perfect. And with all of everything, like, and so I convinced Dennis Prey. rest in peace he fell in the shower and died uh but he he uh i convinced i got on the air as bill mar like got through like call screener fucking producer and got onto the air with dennis preggar one of my real uh shiny moments for sure it's very funny we'll see you all next week with penis guys with mike hale bye peace