Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 149 - Eminem Guys with Ryan Stanger

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

This is guys podcast, yes the real guys podcast, all you other guys podcasts are just imitating. That's right, this week on Guys we covered The GOAT Eminem Guys. How many different flows is a good amount of flows? Is Eminem better than Tupac? What are Eminem's politics? Get more Ryan at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/actionboyz/id1532139409 !! There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I could have done an impression of the guy we're talking about today, but I did not because no more accents. No, but you could have done like, welcome to guys. You know, you could have like. I did that once and you made fun of me. Okay. So you're going to stop doing stuff that I make fun of you about? Every single thing you make fun of me of, I'm stopping doing now.

I tried to rap one time when we came into the show. Here. Hey. Okay. Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. Here's Chris. Not bad. I mean, it kind of did. At the end, I feel like it went into that old classic, like Scott Ackerman style.

Like, well, I'm here. And I'm here to say. Like, it kind of, but at the beginning, I know. I don't listen to any other rap. Your flow in the beginning was, was okay. It was okay. All right. Let's get the guests on. We have this week from Action Boys. Ryan Stanger, hi. Yo, what's up, dudes? We just had Gabris on like two weeks ago.

Oh, beautiful. Which one? Which one was it? Has that one come out yet? No. No. Well, it has now for the people listening. But no, not when we're recording this.

But yeah, we do it in this really insane kind of way. But we, what did we do with? Gym guys. Can I say something about the gym guys episode? I told my wife about it. I'm telling my wife about it, right? And I'm telling her this story. This guy's walking around in a locker room when in his socks.

And he steps like, on a big toenail and it breaks his skin. Yeah. It's the grossest things we've ever said on this show. Like he steps like the toenail, it's like a discarded toenail that's sharp and it's sticking up and he like stepped on it and it went through into him and like pierced his skin. Oh my God. Like a tone.

Wait, like one of those like some kind of freaky toenails like a mine like mine. Yeah, probably someone with an extra hard one, I guess. Yep. That's me. Mangle up. gnarly kind of ones. They're not mangled up or gnarly. I don't even really, I don't like thinking about having your skin pierced by a disgusting. That's wild. Some people have freaky guys a lot will have freaky kind of, I think it's a fungus and they look like, um, they look like the lost boys. Do you

know when they're hanging upside down? Yeah. Yeah. They kind of, they get a little, what's that new show? They filmed it here. It's about, um, it's the last of us. They start, they kind of, it kind of looks, you know, the last of us zombies how they kind of like fungal kind of like i imagine i've seen some i've seen some nasty feet brian you want to show yours i'd be saying you got some nasty but one of the one of the most the most pro the pharmaceutical this is very funny too because this guy is such a anti-pharmaceutical my father-in-law he actually sent my wife home with a bunch of tea and then wrote down all the diseases that each tea cures. Yeah.

So, like, he's not pharmaceutical. He's not into him now. He's not getting a vaccine or anything like that. But back when we first started dating, they had like a pool in the backyard and he would wear flip-flops all the time at the greenest toe nails you've ever seen in your life. I mean, you have never seen greener toes. I guess you just start, you get used to it. And you're like, well, I guess I have green toenails now.

Because I think if. my toenails turn green, I think it would be like, it would be an emergency for me. I would go to the doctor and I'd say, we got to get these things back to clear. I think it's like an immediate, we got to let's sort this out. Let's figure it out. Or it's like, hey, you know what? These tutsies aren't going to see sunlight anymore. Yes. Yeah, maybe I'm just going to go full socks all, like Brian mode where Brian doesn't take off his shoes and socks really ever. So that you can do that where you just never show them to anybody. Yeah, I might do that. If I couldn't afford the procedure, I would just. get a lot of socks. And also you go swimming with him. Like he's swimming in their pool back there. And like just like you're always around these these moldy toes. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get in the pool. Like I'd be like, oh man.

Like that's the pool I nutted in too. What? I said that's the pool I nutted in. What? Like if you, what do you mean? And it floated up and I took my hands. Oh, yeah.

And threw it out. That's smart. I don't know. I. Oh, you had sex in there. Okay. Yeah. With my wife.

Okay. You didn't just solo J.O. No, no, no, no. It was the most humiliating experience because I don't swim. Okay. And I jumped in the pool with jeans shorts on. It sounds like the worst porno. Longed jeans shorts, too.

You know. He's struggling, struggling to keep his head above water. Yeah. As somebody that does swim, here's my first. first tip I would give you. Don't swim in denim. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's an above ground. It's not like a sexy situation. It's like an above ground pool. It's like in the backyard of a house in like suburban Ohio. Like not. Yeah. Not sexy. And, uh, let's fucking do this thing. I jump in. My, my, my, my, my jeans shorts are floating next to me. And I finish. And then I, like, I never considered

the finishing part. Like, I never considered. oh my god, that's going to have to go somewhere. Yeah, when you don't be honest with you. When you're really getting into it, you rarely do consider that, right? You're just kind of in the, you're just doing it. Well, I think you do sometimes consider the finishing part. I mean, it depends on it. Listen, man, I guess you're not having.

I guess the sex you're having is just isn't quite as animalistic as mine, Ryan. When I'm in the throes of passion, I'm just like, hey, hmm. Sorry. You don't, you don't think about like, where do you want me to finish? I mean, I do. I mean, I guess I, like, listen, I mean, it is. I mean, it's my, I only have sex with my wife. So it's kind of, what?

You only do, too. What are you talking about? You're trying now to one up me. You're going to pretend to cheat on your wife. I'll win this. I'll get a fucking divorce to win this. By the way, everybody. I cheat on my wife all the time.

By the way, everyone, we're doing M&M guys today. who cheated on his wife probably So Brian I was just yeah Just try to ease you I know some people do They do like But anyway I nutted And it comes up

It looks kind of like a lava lamp Situation Yeah In the pool Like it just comes up And I'm looking at it I'm like people are gonna swim in this Especially my father all

With his moldy toenails I'm gonna take it I'll throw it out So anyway I was bringing up The moldy toenails Is because then he goes to the doctor He gets this lamacill and if you'll remember the old commercials

with the green mold that would jump under the toenails and be like he gets prescribed this stuff it's gone in two days like he doesn't have moldy well he probably has him now because he's not taking any medicines

was it topical or was it a pill? It was a pill. So he just had to take a pill a couple of times for like one and a half days and he could deal with it instead he just walked around with nasty. I don't think he just walked around with nasty.

I don't think I've ever seen green toenails. I don't know that I've ever seen. In real life, I don't think I've ever seen them. I don't know if, yeah. I have. You know, that, that, that kind of shit that you take for that to kill whatever that is. That's where they, they lay it out for you. Like, look, this is going to, this is going to rip apart your spleen in your pancreas. And there's a good chance you'll die, but it will, it's going to kill that fungus. So it's all I want. It's worth it off. That's sort of it. Yeah. Like, I think you take it. I think you take. the risk. But honestly, I don't know if it's going to kill you again. Just buy, just put socks on just

wear socks all the time. At that point, I don't know. I guess, wait, I guess there's probably, it's probably bad for you as well, right? It's probably not just the fact that it's green. It probably is also potentially could spread. I mean, anything visual with me is an immediate fix. It's a fix. Like anything. Like I just got my teeth fixed. They weren't really visible. You couldn't tell that I was missing some teeth, but like I still got them fixed. If my front tooth was missing, I would have gotten to fix right away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But instead, I waited.

Now I got it all done. Anyway, we're doing M&M guys. Ryan, did you ever have an M&M phase? Oh, yeah. I loved him. I think at the peak of his. So I'll tell you, so I really liked him when he was funny. I liked that kind of.

When he was a bit goofing off a little bit. Goof and playful. you know, where he was, um, having fun. And then once he did maybe like post green mile and I was even or sorry, green mile, Jesus Christ. He was really good in that. He should be. He was good at that. Him playing the fucking role of the guy. Like him is Michael Clark Duncan when he helps, uh, Tom Hanks sort out his fucking gonorrhea or whatever he's got. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's gonorrhea, right? It's not a bladder infection. It's full gonorrhea. Um, I don't recall them. I remember, I remember, I remember loving that movie as a child.

It's because you love movies about gonorrhea. No, I was going to say, I don't remember the gonorrhea part. It's not, it's not gonorrhea. Tom Hanks' character has a really bad bladder infection and has trouble urinating. And then it's this strange- Eminem helps him out with that. It's this strange thing where Eminem in the character that Michael Clark Duncan played in the movie helps it like he puts his hands on his fucking genitals and it freaks him out but then he opens his

mouth and like all those bugs or whatever fly out that's the famous scene the bug mouth scene yeah yeah and you're just like when you're first watching you're like what the is this fucking sci-fi like what what is this and then it you ultimately figure out that some kind of magic this guy has and then you go look it up a little bit and you realize oh it's it's fucking it's stevie king is at it again with his crazy ideas and then it starts making a bit more sense. Well, I think like one of the things that, you know, there are two phases of his career and there was the phase where I liked him. And then there was the phase where he got inspirational.

Yeah. So I think I'm the same as you. Yeah. No, I'm not doing that. I'm not going to get inspirational with Eminem. I don't think so. The one thing that I do recall, though, that was pretty, it was pretty ever present in his early playful stuff that wasn't so playful was his constant, all of his song lyrics about murdering

his ex-wife. Yes. I think that was, I do remember that as being like coming up a lot, but then it was sort of like, yeah, the rest of it was all pretty playful and silly and, you know, he was goofing around and stuff like that. But then he'd do one where he's just like, I'm going to genuinely kill, you know, my ex-wife or whatever. Yeah.

Sorry. I guess if you look back on it, you're like, yeah, okay, this one. was a platinum hit that is basically just a threat to murder his wife. Yeah, it doesn't see what I'm sure. Yeah, there's like been a million bits about it. People have talked about it endlessly. I'm sure that like how absurd that is and how ridiculous is. But your right, his like general demeanor back then otherwise was the kind of, you know,

hi, my name is that like video that he came out, you know, became famous. There was like a, he was a comedy rapper in a lot of ways. He was doing like funny lyrics and stuff as well. I mean, Detroit is, now I'm going to get on my high horse because I know something. Detroit is like a place where there's like the rap is like a lot more playful and different. Like that's where ICP's from, Isham the unholy? So I, you're putting, you think I see is ICP considered hip hop? They rap.

Okay. Yeah, I get, I don't know. I'm not, not being. I wasn't, I wasn't meaning to offend you and your and your nephew. My nephews are both juggalo rappers. Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just wasn't like, I don't know if they're classified it.

But yeah, I, I, I, I, but I'm saying like some of the guy, like Danny Brown, uh, like a lot of those artists were like a little weirder than, than like the rest of the country. So. So. So. M&M. Yeah. And Eminem's funny because I think that's the kid rock. Like, that's the place he was, he was brought up in.

It's like this weird. So, although he's the opposite of kid rock politically, everybody. he endorsed Kamala Harris and believe me we'll have some posts later that are really questioning his decision to do Oh no I love I love Eminem so much It's one of the greatest time it's one of the greatest timed threads of all time So I um I just want to say yeah I was a huge fan of Eminem because Brian doesn't Brian doesn't ask me I don't care about my opinion or what is going on with me But I was huge in I mentioned on an episode that I I I

had like a velour suit and bleached my hair blonde. Like I mean, I was like Eminem is my favorite artist in the world for probably about eight months or so. So it wasn't something that ever stuck around too long for me. But I definitely was like, yeah, like when he was the most famous, you know, I just like bought into it completely. And I was just like, holy shit, man. This guy fucking, this guy is like so good.

And he's friends with Dr. Trey. Like that is insane. I was the same way. And I only listened to metal at this. time. Oh, wow. Like, the only music I like is like corn or like that, like that was that era, but he kind of crossed over into that. Like everybody that I knew, well, a lot of my friends hated

them. But my friends were idiots, though. Like all of them. Every last, like I think Sean liked him. Uh, and yeah, Porto Sean liked them. And Nate, I think liked them. I think Theo hated him. But Theo was slightly racist. So, uh, but, which if you're, if you're, What the hell? It's weird, right? I don't think that's slightly racist. That's not slightly racist. If you're two racist to listen to Eminem.

You're two racist to listen to Eminem. I think that's very racist. I didn't consider it. Anyway, let's take a look at this guy posts on R slash Eminem. He says, Dre, I'm down here under the ground. Dig me up. And there's a meme of the kid that's like focusing really hard. He's got the veins.

And it says, M&M trying to go five. songs without mentioning Dr. Dre. First, I just, I wanted to read this. He goes, realistically, he should mention him more. Hip hop is founded on the work of DJs and producers. The original purpose for MCs was to hype up the DJ. If you listen to old school rap, it's much more focused on my DJ is dope. His cuts are so raw.

And I'm not as focused on, and not as focused on I'm so amazing. I spit straight fire. MC's talent is bragging, but it was better when he was bragging. his homie up more and not centering everything around himself. Hey, listen, man, I don't, I started off being like, oh, what a goon this guy is. But I guess there's something, like, because the DJ, or the person that's making the music behind it is, deserves a lot of the credit for it. And yeah, if they're not, but I think they still do get mentioned in songs.

Definitely like in the, like, maybe at the end of it, when they're just doing a bunch of the, you know, when they're shouting out stuff. Yeah. He's also like, he's right in the sense that like, look, when Eminem needed credibility, he talked about Dre all the time. It was like, hey, look, Dre likes me. I've been vetted. And then once he's got an Oscar and all that shit, all of a sudden you don't hear about Dre that much anymore. All of a sudden, it's like he forgot.

I got it first. Listen to this guy, though. This guy, you can tell this guy's really young, I think. He just goes, because if you're. look up Dr. Dre, M&M songs will appear from his name being in the lyrics. Okay. Eminem search engine optimization. His SEO is so good.

Yeah, he's got insane SEO. Dr. Dre, I mean, listen, probably a lot of, maybe a lot of young people do know Dr. Dre is like the guy who Eminem knows, right? Maybe it has kind of gone that way a little bit. But I don't think that Evan M.M. mentions Dr. Dre. People search Dr. Dre. Oh, that's what they're saying? Oh, they think that they're doing it.

He's doing it on purpose. He's doing, he's doing SEO in his songs. They're just like, okay, can we change this lyric? Just like that will shoot us up about three to four pages on the search results. If we could just toss it. He's got like a team. He's got like a team. Marshall, we had a couple of thoughts about, you know,

you can being connected to Dre. And if there's something that if we could get his name in the chorus, maybe it would connect you to him a little bit more on the... DRE, maybe D-I... I noticed that you're talking about going to the doctor in this lyric. Maybe the doctor is a certain doctor we know.

I mean, it would be funny if that was true and every one of his songs had like, I'm like Led Zeppelin or Metallica. He's always names of more... Yeah, really famous like, holy shit, Charlie Kirk, is it, you know? Like, just like every...

Just like every single song is meant to. This guy goes, this is a new post. Oh, shit. The submersible, like, you know, when that show is happening. This guy, this is a new post. He goes, I love new Eminem as much as old Eminem. I wish more people appreciated new M&M. Do y'all like new M&M?

I don't know. Now, he's asking R slash M&M. So probably some of them do, but probably some of them don't. Because I don't know a lot of, I know his, uh, his, uh, his, Trump, but like, that was where I found out Trump was orange. Yeah. Was, was what he did the Trump song, but I don't know a lot of his new songs. I don't like, yeah, I'm trying to think of the last one that I really.

I'm not afraid. Right? Yeah, I guess I've heard that, I've heard that. In a store, I guess I've heard, I'm not afraid. I've heard it in a store maybe, right? Like at grocery shopping. Yeah, grocery shopping. They love to play it in stores.

No, no, no. I'm not even. joking. I've heard it in a store, not a grocery store, but in a store. That's where I've heard it. For sure, like a clothing store or something like that. They played it at my physical therapy appointments. That's what his new music sounds like. I'm sorry. Like, it is. I think after 8 Mile, that's what I was trying to say earlier. It was like, and I listen, I liked the song. I liked 8 Mile song. The, uh, lose yourself. Lose yourself. I did like that. Yeah. I didn't. But now when I listened to,

to it is kind of like the mom's spaghetti stuff. You know, I'm sure a lot of people made jokes about that. It doesn't really hit the same way. And also what's so, it just, it was also unique for him at the time. And then now it's like all his shit is like that. Didn't he do one that was kind of funny recently? I doubt it. He did.

He did. He did one that was. Yeah, he did one that was kind of funny recently. He did an album called, like maybe the last two years. In 2020, he did an album called the Death of Slim Shady. and he was being slim shady on that album and I think when he's slim shady he's funny that's just like funny persona

kind of like with the blonde hair and stuff like that that's what I learned yeah yeah he has kind of an alter ego that's slim shady and then the other guy who has the very jet black beard that's one of the most black beards I've ever seen in my life he's like more than the fucking pirate I mean this is this fucking yeah this guy This guy's gone full pirate mode on that thing.

No doubt about it. I mean, the pictures of him at his daughter's wedding with that fucking painted on beard is this. Oh, it stresses me out. It's psychotic when you look at it. We talked about it before, too, I think,

in the last episode that, like it looks like it's computer generated or whatever. Like, it's just so well defined and dark that it's so unnatural. I think he should do a, a campaign, you know, just for men,

but it should be just for M. Oh, I mean, I mean, You know who's right there It's funny What's funny is his wife His girlfriend is his stylist

Oh that's cool So she must like black beards She's like I don't like this gray hair It's disgusting She better like black beards Or she'll find herself on the fucking receiving end of a pretty serious fucking rap lyrics perhaps

You know what I'm saying? This guy goes This first post This first reply is, in my opinion, new M&M isn't even the same stratosphere as Prime M, 2004. But I still like New M stuff a lot. I just think that Prime M is the best rapper of all time. Now, the reply from the O.P is the good part. He goes, New M&M got so damn good at rapping.

It doesn't sound good to the casual listener's ear. It truly is next level rapping. It's just not as accessible. And I love that because I love just diving deep into his craft with his lyrics and rhyme. So that's somebody who likes to listen to rap in the same way some people like to listen to tool or whatever. They're just like, holy shit, this sounds terrible, but God, it must be hard to do. Like, that's the kind of music I like where I'm like, holy shit, this sounds awful, but God, I could never do it. It's very complicated.

It's like pet sounds. It's just like, you know, listen, it's it's obtuse. It's not necessarily like you can't get into it, but like Lennon heard it and it changed his mind, you know. And we learned about, you know. I feel like the, the, like, idea of, I get what he's saying and that he's just, like, he can rap so fast or whatever, I guess. Like, I think that's what he's talking about, maybe. Because I don't know how you could become good, more, like, good in that way, I guess.

I don't know. But, yeah, it seems to me like. The musicality doesn't even matter anymore for him. He's like, so beyond that. He's just, like, just the craft of it is so impressive. of like, holy shit, he did like 19 rhymes in like 32 seconds. Like that's actually a world record. And it's like it blows the other one out of the water.

And it's like, I don't know anything that he said. But I think that what happened was, yeah, I don't know. It seems to me like he got a little bit older and stopped being interested in making that same type of music that he was making before. Well, this guy goes, M only got better at his craft. people really need to stop crying it really shows they've not involved while m&m has they're still stuck in that old energy and can't recognize new m&m is a fucking genius imagine 25 years later and still wanting immature lyrics frustrations pain and anger em got over it why can't you that's a good question now there is an issue this guy does bring something like he goes 30 plus years of songs and albums and you kids are out here complaining about cohesiveness and his 12th studio album when he's nearly 50 and giving you an insane amount of content about his life in great detail never happy never satisfied fucking give me give me give me children now the reply to this

I love gnaz is still doing that at 50 so did push on malice ironic to talk about kids being satisfied when you're acting childish no I'm not happy he's never reached the heights of his first three albums and 23 years since it's disappointing like I think it's funny because like nobody in history of music has ever maintained a career all that long. He came out in 99. It is almost 30 years. Yeah. It's very rare. I think people have like a resurgence maybe where they'll have like a, you know, they'll come back with a big album or whatever or they'll maybe make a great album later on. But the idea of just

continuing to get better until your last album, I think that can happen if you, die when you're young and you only make a few albums. But yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Yeah, the idea of you're going to die young. Yep, for the podcast. I mean, you got to get to it. I mean, you're,

you're getting to a point now where it's, you know, I'm thinking of dying at 70. That's 70. That's not bad. Nowadays, I guess that is kind of considered young, right? Now that I'm older, like, I'm always like, fuck, how old was he?

74? It's fucking young. Yeah. When I was like, when I was a kid, I was like, that, you know, that was a good run. 70, But now, like that I'm old, I'm like, fuck, that's shit, the guy's 80 years old. I believe I only want to live.

And I don't a lot of people say this, but I do believe I'd be happy to live to 75. I think that would be, that would be cool for me. I'd be fine. I'd be fine duck it out at that point. Not me. So anyway, first, first long, oh, these like, I do love these very researched responses, you know, with like math and dates and 25 years and 12 studio albums and all this shit. These guys aren't just off the cuff just saying like, come on, 12 studio items, get the guy, right? Oh, no.

It's so, like, funny internet research. They're not looking it up. They're not looking it up either in that moment. This is information that exists in their brain already. This amount of studio albums and stuff. They've researched it before. Like, this is in their catalog of information. I love this final post in a thread.

My dad loves new M&M. It's his favorite artist by far. Ooh. Now, that's got a, that's got a. that's got to shut it down yeah well we're done uh first long post here but here but 12 studio albums i mean that is i couldn't even venture a guess before i heard that on how many records he had i would say like five or something 12 is there's a lot of shit out there that i haven't even heard yeah that's why i mean he just kind of stopped him for me and my life after the like three albums four albums

maybe I stopped even recognizing or registering that he was releasing new music at all. That's how I was with corn. Like I was like this huge fan. It was the only music I listened to for like three years of my life. And then like it got to a point where an album came out and I really liked it. And then the next one I was like, I don't know listen to that. I don't have time for this shit. And I just stopped listening to it.

And it was four albums in. So it is the M&M thing, right? It's like it's four albums. and then you're like, I've had enough. I think I'm out. Yeah, there's like, yeah, I don't, I'm trying to think of like, because there aren't that many musicians that release that many albums, like full on albums.

Sleep foxes. I was just listening to Fleet Foxes the other day, by the way. At dinner time, we were listening to some Charlie was really digging it. I was listening to a song called Ragged Wood, which is kind of fantastic. A little part in that vocal melody that's just beautiful. But you can't. it's hard to stick around with a band or artist for that long. You have to really be into them.

You have to be like an M&M guy, I feel like, right? To be like, all right, let's, whatever this guy puts out, I'm fucking listening to it no matter what. Yeah, you have to start to love the person and just not care about the. Yeah, because they're not going to be. That was like for me with Phantom Menace. Like I went and saw that movie when it first came. I know people like it and it's there's been, it's been revisited and all this stuff.

and people can argue, and I know I'm in trouble with bringing up Star Wars stuff. It's dangerous. You're totally okay. We're against it, but it's fine. We're against it big time. We don't we love. Well, what big issue we have is that we feel like Jar Jar was given it. That's a big thing.

Short shrift. Very badly. I'm, but when that movie came out and I was like, I love this when I saw it, but I knew in my mind I didn't really like it. Yeah. Yeah. Or I was just whatever on it. I'm that way about everything I see.

When it's over, I'm like five stars. And then three days later, I'm like, this is the worst thing I've ever watched my entire life. I'll never see it again. First long post of the show. Okay. I love this post. This one's good. Forgive me for getting a little political.

But based on some of these lyrics, does anyone else think Eminem has evolved a bit since his revival days? Now, what I'm going to say is revival has some anthony. tie Trump songs on it. It's the one with the, where he called him orange. One. Two. Okay. You have to remember that this post was made one day before he

introduced Kamala Harris on stage in Detroit. This post happened the day before. He goes, this is probably the wrong place to write this, but I'm just going to come right out and say it. I've been a Democrat my entire life and the vast majority of everyone in my circle has been a Democrat for their entire

life. But something changed in virtually everyone I know between the last election, the upcoming election. I won't get into specifics, but the one thing absolutely everyone I know agrees on is this. Even though we all used to hate Trump, it's undeniably that we are all incredibly disappointed in how poorly Biden is doing. Like I said, most of us were not historically big fans of Trump or anything, but we really, really, really hate Biden. Yeah, I mean, the truth is, I mean, the guy was falling asleep at times like on camera so i mean that's fucking humiliating for president so i have to defend that poster on that point well he goes and how nuts the left has gotten we all agree that that is my favorite how nuts the left has gotten from a guy that's about to

vote for donald i am prominent leftist yeah you've gotten nuts i've noticed that that you've gotten nuts does he mean accent of the week is he talking about accent of the week he might be talking about Brian's accent of the week when he says that, oh, no, this is an older post. Brian, yeah. Yeah, they didn't know about my accent. That is nuts, though. We all agreed that our lives have gotten markedly worse under Biden. We're all ready for a change in direction.

I say all this because based on some of the lyrics Eminem is laying down on who he means. Oh, yeah, this is about Eminem. Yeah, yeah. You have to give it a minute because he is going to come back and be a psycho, Eminem guy. He will. This isn't just like a politics thing. he got, because I usually would leave politics, like, wouldn't do a ton of it, but this guy is great.

He goes, I say all this because Eminem is laying down on Houdini. I think Eminem has had changed a heart as well. Accordingly, I put my money on the fact that he says nothing negative about Trump on this album. I don't think it's because he's trying to avoid politics all of a sudden. I think M, like the rest of us, has some serious buyers remorse in 2024. Let's look at the lyrics slash music video. Oh, this is a really sad point.

because it's somebody who desper, his loves Eminem, right? And he's just like, he's like, God, it's like, I really want to get on the Trump train, chika, chika, choochoochoo, but, God, it would feel a lot better to have my good friend Marshall Mathers on there with me. And they just want so badly to believe that he also feels the exact same way that they do. I mean, we all want that. Every celebrity that I watch on TV, I'm always hoping that they feel the exact same thing about everything as I do, you know?

Please align with everything. That is so funny. So on our show, people will post shit and, you know, I try not to like look at any of that stuff too much because it can drive you crazy. I'm sure you guys are the same. I've heard you guys are the same. But there is this strange phenomenon I notice where people will say like, look, I am a staunch Democrat. I've always been a Democrat. I'm highly progressive.

but when you guys talk about your, you know, Democratic talk points on the show, you have to realize how ridiculous you sound. And then they'll just launch what, go into like whatever like Republican stuff or what I don't know, whatever they think more conservative. And stuff or whatever. It could be libertarian sometimes,

but you're right. They always start with like, look, I am the moment, my entire life. I've always been. But at this point, you have to understand how ridiculous you sound. Yeah,

They're like, I'm a lifelong Democrat. I'm racist, anti-immigration and anti-gay marriage. Like every Democrat I know. Yeah, and we don't get those because we don't talk about politics on the show, we don't get those messages. Like we literally, we just don't talk about us. We don't get people saying things. We can get messages. Because people are like, Brian, you have the best politics.

That's what a lot of people are always telling me. They're just sending you messages to tell you that your politics are good. They're like, we love your politics, Brian. First one, with respect to the lyrics, the first thing that popped out to me was young Eminem was wearing a Bud Light shirt in the music video and mentioning it in the song. Obviously, Young Eminem is unaware of the controversy at issue in today's day. But the lyrics as well as music video, just kind of leave it as that. So this is something from the past or something? This is a video where he's both being Young Eminem and Modern Eminem.

And in the video, he's wearing a Bud Light shirt when he's young Eminem. Okay. And is, is it after the Bud Light controversy that the music video have was shot? Okay. So presumably then he was saying how he was ignorant before maybe and is no longer ignorant. But that would go against this guy's point. If young Eminem was wearing the shirt, then he was saying, hey, I used to have these types of ignorant views perhaps, but now I've grown up and matured.

But I think, yeah, no, he's saying, you know, he's saying, let me explain it. He's saying young M&M's wearing a Bud Light T-shirt in this video. And he's talking about how he's grown up and is now an older. Oh, wearing a Bud Light T-shirt would be, wearing a Bud-Light T-shirt is bad. It's very bad. Oh, I forgot that it's the bad. That's a bad thing because they had a trans person do one single ad campaign. one single time.

Is that right? That was that controversy. Yeah. Lifelong Democrat here and I disagree with Bud Light too. Lifelong Democrat here, but I simply can't drink Bud Light anymore. Me and all of my friends at the fucking DNC of stop drinking Bud Light. Yeah, I feel like so they're trying to see this as a subtle little thing that Eminem has said like, hey, maybe before I would have won the Bud Light shirt, but now I won't anymore. Yes.

This is, and this guy is one step away from Eminem is talking to me a little bit. Yes. Oh, wait. Just wait. This one. Eminem also mentions that the world's about to turn into some Girl Scouts and that the censorship bureaus out. The Boy Scouts very recently got some backlash for turning the Boy Scouts into a gender

neutral organization. Also, the censorship bureaus, unmistakably a left-wing socialist idea. For example, no one on the right is attempting to censor Eminem psychotic thing to say. psychotic thing to say because people on the, I mean, the Christian right is, they are the censorship kings.

I mean, and this is, yeah, oh, we don't need to, yeah, obviously. Next line.

Eminem says, sometimes I wonder what the old me'd say. If he could see the way shit is today, he'd probably say that everything is gay. Again, the young Eminem would find the world we are currently living in to be absolutely nuts,

but only with respect to how the left is making it nuts. Of course. He mentions nothing about the right. Nothing. Not a single thing? Yeah. And again, he's talking from the perspective that the old me would think everything's gay. Not the young me.

But this guy doesn't even like, he can't even figure that. That one doesn't track. That one doesn't track. Yeah. He can't get the demarcation. I love this like ipso facto thing like. And furthermore, Your Honor, if it pleased to court, Your Honor. He's getting really confused.

as I did a little bit because he's using this whole thing. It's like, well, the metaphor of him being before and wearing this and how he'd react to today's world. Like, I think he's getting himself a little too confused. I don't think even maybe Eminem meant any, a lot of the stuff he's talking about. A thousand percent, Chris. I think maybe Eminem was just like, well, you know, that there was, there's the Bud Light thing, right? Put that in there for SEO.

Like, this is probably, it's probably an SEO situation. This is SEO stuff. It's literally SEO shit that I was talking about before as a joke. It reminds me of, do you guys ever listen to Elvis Mitchell, like on NPR where he will have... Oh, you are talking to the wrong two fellas, my friend. Too stupidest man on the planet. NPR, like, yeah, well, this guy, if you said what's NPR, this guy would say, what, nude penis radio? Like, that's how this guy would...

Okay, now that's something I'm into. This guy would ask you literally, is that... I think I have listened to Elvis Mitchell talking about. about movies. Yeah, so he talks about movies and he'll have guests come on and he will just pull these like crazy, oh, not crazy. I don't know. It's like his thing is kind of, he'll say like, so I've noticed that in your movies that you'll have a lot of times you feature the ocean and you have the ocean in your movies. And do you think that maybe that's you trying to say that your father is the ocean and the ocean means that it's a place of warmth and

comfort, but at the same time it's being killed. But, you know, like just this. And they'll say, well, you know, I've never thought about that before. But I guess now that you're pointed it out, that kind of, it's like the filmmakers don't even have, they can't even see where he's going with whatever it is. And it's this kind, they get this Elvis Mitchell treatment. And it's, it's a badge of honor, you know, if you go on his show and have him, you know, make some inane connections that are, you know.

But is it is, do you think that he's, is he really making those things where they're saying, holy shit you've tapped into something or are they just like oh okay Elvis yeah that's a cool little little idea but that's not what I meant at all I think it's both I think sometimes maybe sometimes he yeah yeah yeah he's very smart and impressive and cool yeah yeah and uh but I think it's definitely both because sometimes it's like so far from so specific or whatever and then the person is like yeah but but it's Elvis Mitchell who's this really well respected so they're not going to be like what the I wonder if anybody's ever been like what the fuck are you talking about you weirdo that no i didn't think about any of that it's funny too

because it is i always complain it's the same thing with like long running television series or like listen chris gets mad wrestling where people think the guys booking it or thinking all of this stuff when they're really booking it and just being like this guy's going to lose because tonight he loses you know what i mean they're not telling this elaborate story you're making You got to see an interview with some of these guys like, you know, where they're doing these fucking shoot interviews or whatever. These guys are not, you know, geniuses of the world who are, you know, super thoughtful. Like, what was that guy's name? Vince Russo.

Yeah. Vince Russo was not like, hmm, like let's consider the implications of this. If he is to actually come into the ring here, yeah, they were just throwing shit together a lot of the time. They still don't. And people just spend all their time. And that's what this is. This is, well, I'm an ex. I'm a, I guess I convinced myself I was a Democrat at some point, but I'm insanely

racist and transphobic. I don't like anybody except for white people, like all this stuff, right? Yeah. And then he's like qualifying, using the Democrat to like, strengthen his argument to me. That's true. And then he's like, I love, listen, I love Eminem and I would love it. And I'm thinking he's come around the same time as me. that's what one thing me and him have in common.

First of all, he's very down to earth. Mm-hmm. And secondly, he's just like me politically. He does finish it. If you think about it, we both look up at the same fucking sun every morning. That's true. When guys start saying shit like that? He goes, Eminem continues to only make fun of left-wing nonsense.

And then he does a verse that's very obviously a slim, like a young hymn verse. And then at then he goes, accordingly, even though Eminem is rap. from the POV of Slim Shady, Eminem and the end wrote the song, and Eminem only attacked left-wing lunacy. He didn't mention a single thing about the right. Interesting. Interesting. So, so you think this old, when he brought Kamala Harris up, it could be part of a long, you know.

Well, this guy goes, maybe my comment is very surface level, but I don't think his current criticisms are poking fun at things predominantly associated with left wing's ideas. doesn't mean he's suddenly switched up his sides about right-wing Trump and that culture in general. He's actually always seemed to have a pretty critical of both sides of the spectrum, and his alter ego has always been an exaggerated caricature of certain things in America, too, including left-wing and right-wing ideas. This is also only one song. Also, I'm pretty sure there's been right-wing figures, whether it's Twitter accounts or politicians,

that have tried to silence or call him out, but then they switch up when they believe he's unironically supporting their ideas, like for example some of the Houdini's lyrical content and then the next the next the next comment is hate to break it to you but he's publicly endorsed Kamala Harris and introduced Obama at her rally last one day after just a horrible comment for that guy to read one of the worst days of his life I love this guy like like fucking going over this stuff fact checking everything and then just all right i'm going to post it here we go this is going to fucking rock everybody's world and then literally the day after oh god that the song you're

referencing houdini was the kind of funny one that i was thinking of on that yeah yeah i think he talk yeah he's goofing around and that yeah and again it seems like the song houdini is i'm an adult now these are my positions or this is how i feel as an adult about the old me i don't i don't i think Eminem's done like three political. I don't think any Mosh, which is the song where I was like, I think I'm totally out on this guy. Actually, when that song came out, I was, I was Mr. Democrat and I was like, Eminem, you did it. You did it again. But shortly after I was like, it's kind of corny. Well, well, Mr. Mathers, you've done it again, my friend. An absolute, one of the best rap. One of the best rap songs I've ever heard.

And that's the other thing. These conservative guys are like, well, that was, well, he's doing some good stuff. It's like you don't want them liking what you do. It's the worst. Yeah. It's a really bad sign with some conservative guy is like, I really love what you're doing. I mean, it's truly like you want, you want like young, trans or gay people. I mean, if that's your audience, it's like you're, you're doing something right.

Yeah. I do feel like a lot of sort of musicians and stuff, at least they'll be welcome in by all of these people who are like, well, I really like what you're doing. Yeah. And what they're doing is like being extremely hateful to marginalized groups or whatever. That's generally the thing. This guy goes, L.O. I came here after watching it bothers me how he, let alone any intelligent human can vote for these people.

It doesn't make sense. I would love to sit down and just ask him why. what reason he has to vote for her. I'm gonna fucking die. I just want to have a conversation with us. I just want to sit down to talk. Like honestly, like, has anyone ever done that with him? Like, he's such a big star that it's like, has anyone ever just explained to him sort of where he's going wrong politically?

It is, it is funny. I had a period of time where I was like, I feel like I could sit down with anybody and convince, convince them to take left wing positions. because they seem like the best. And then it's like once I, once my father-in-law went over to Trump, I was like, there's no fucking world in which he would change his mind. There's nothing,

there's nothing you can say to him. Like even me, but this guy thinks, and he goes, it's just because he's in a predominantly black world of hip hop and we'll get flack for voting right. Because for whatever reason, blue and red is equivalent to black and white these days. I mean,

I can answer that. It's not for whatever reason. I also do want to, I want to apologize, I was being ignorant because I used a, I used a classic Southern accent for my ignorant person who loves racist people. And I think that's a real trope though. And I'd like to change it up. I'm going to be, I'm going to do Ohio accent. There's no such thing as an Ohio accent.

Anyway, this guy goes, he honestly probably hasn't even looked into it because clearly anyone on the left is just ignorant to facts, especially these days. Next reply, you said one big reason yourself. Trump is racist. Eminem may not be black in skin, but he's had an upbringing like many black artists and rappers. Why would he vote for someone with rhetoric like Trump? I can say the same thing you're saying versus the right too. Bothers me how let alone. And then he goes into his thing. And then finally. Well, I mean, listen, that sounds kind of stupid, but I don't think that that guy is completely wrong either because I think that Eminem grew up around predominantly black people and

like through hip hop a lot of his friends and the people, who knew are black people. So it sort of does make sense a little bit. I think you feel the same way when you have like friends who are people of color or trans or whatever and you're like, you're like, fuck those people who are, you know, making these policies that fuck over my friends. Yeah, if you make sense. Spending time predominantly with a marginalized group or marginalized groups for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's just so funny that this, that these guys are getting pulled into this political conflict in their own minds is just unreal. Like I, you know, they're just sitting and listening to rap and then all of a sudden they have to, you know,

face this inside themselves. Oh, yeah. And then just, I've got to take to the internet and sort this out. We got to figure this out. I'm like, I've seen this person post. Yeah, it's like such a horrible way to be to be constantly having to be thinking about Paul. You know what I mean?

Like, just listen to his fucking music. And if you enjoy it, then you enjoy it. Like, that just must be miserable. This is the last post in this thread. Yeah, I was really quite crestfallen to see him. there chilling for Kamala crestfallen. To me it's just evidence. You're not going to talk about M&M.

I know. Come on. I'm quite crestfallen, actually. Hey, you know, Michael or whatever, you seem kind of down today. What's going on?

I don't want to talk about it. I'm sad. I'm just fucking sad, dude. It's not, I don't know what's, yeah. A guy I thought was,

the guy I thought was pretty fucking cool. You know, it turns out, just be pretty much a fake friend, you know? I love the, yeah. He goes, to me it's just evidence that these are too focused on rap to know better. Oh, my God. He's so, he's so focused on rap.

He's in the studio. They're like, Eminem, you're following the election? What's going on? He's like, coming up with the rhymes, you know? Like, he's like, get out of here. He's like, stop listening to beats and focus on the. issues. Maybe you could make a, you know, point that's cogent. Yeah, he's like, he's like, well, yeah, he's got CNN on in his house, but he's got a

fucking pair of over-your headphones playing beats constantly to figure out, you know, what the best beat is that he could do is hip-hop music. If I could just sit down with him at Panera, just sit down with him across the table, I mean, look him in the eye. I think I could get to the bottom of what's going on here. I think if I sat down with a bit of Panera, I would, I would look him right in the eyes and I would say, hey, I finished all of my charge. lemonade. Can I have yours, please? I love the idea of like Eminem sitting like

in his house and he's got like the big book like they used to have at the library. It's like a big book just of rap lyrics that he's looking at for inspiration. He's looking at things that rhyme with other things. He's just literally looking at rhymes. He's just like, okay, so like wedding and then he's just like bedding like sledding. Like he just

sees all the different rhymes right. He's putting them all into his head. sweater already, mom's spaghetti. Yeah, that works. Yeah, he's like putting them into his head. He's doing that constantly so he doesn't have time to like, yeah, no, he's not going to weigh in on the situation in Palestine because he's thinking of rap lyrics. He's busy.

He's focused on rap. He's not in any position to deny them because he's dependent on the industry or something. Politics is a game. It's not for the little citizens to understand. It's to keep us whipped up and busy. None of it makes sense. And the actors are all actors, sometimes literally. That fact has been plainly obvious to me since I was young.

Even big strong man Arnold Schwarzenegger has been out there saying wimpy girly man things. Screw your freedom. And it's contradicting the very country that he came to and made him how. How does that make sense? Most of the people responding here are exemplary of being all caught up in the circus. They're trying to make sense of the senseless and justify it all based on their feelings and based on something that they don't really know the reality of. So there you go.

I love people like that who are just like, hey, listen, I'm fucking, I don't, I'm so, I don't understand what the fuck is going on and guess what? Neither do you. Okay, I hate to break it to you, but you don't know what's going on either because I don't have any idea about any of it. It's like the, the intensely patronizing, but then they'll throw themselves in there, look, this is a fucking circus. I don't know it.

You don't know it. Nobody knows it. Who knows it? And somebody stands up. They're like, well, I got a kind of. No, you don't. No, you don't. Nobody could.

I don't. You don't. We couldn't. Listen, it is. I think some of, I think politics are. I think there is some, that person was a nonsensical in a lot of ways. But obviously politics are, you know, purposely confusing, I do think, and like inaccessible to regular people. That is a function of, like, democracy.

Or like, you know, that is like what they're trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. let's go to the next long one strap in everybody this one's fucking crazy okay this is off a quora the question is rap music who's a better rapper Tupac or M&M

oh the age old the age and this guy goes I think you don't actually know what a rapper means because if you did you'd already have an answer and the answer is Eminem now why is he better than Tupac now we we get some categories here rhyme schemes anyone who studies rap here's rap technically knows that Eminem has the most complex lyricism ever. Tupac doesn't stand a chance.

Just try rapping a song by Tupac and Eminem and you'll realize the difference. Try rapping Dear Mama by Tupac and Rap, Tupac and rap God by Eminem. You won't be able to wrap the latter at all. Yeah, one of them is way faster. And we've established that, right? That like he has this ability technically to like rap in this extremely impressive technical, like fast and it sounds good when he's doing it, you know? So he is really, really good.

But I don't think that that's the only thing that makes a rapper good. It is dazzling. When I was a kid, like I was fascinated by this guy that did micro machines commercials. Yeah, me too, me too. I love the mic. We must be around the same age because, yeah, micro machines were huge. That guy was huge for me. Yeah, and like even beyond the actual, I liked the toy a lot, but I was fascinated by the guy.

I mean, it was so impressive to me and everybody would try to do it. And there'd be, there's like a popular kid at my school that could do it almost as fast as him. And the guy was able to get a lot of, you know, clout and credibility because he was able to speak quickly like this guy. So there is something to it as humans. We, you know, maybe else as broadcasters. I never, I never played with the micromachines either. Yeah, I meant I was obsessed with that guy too. He had the Guinness Book of World Record.

Like, he was in the Guinness Book of World Records as the fastest talker. at the time. And so it was like, it was quantifiable too. You know, you'd watch this commercial and then you'd be like, this guy's fucking whipping through this shit. He's saying it so fast.

And then you'd like turn to your fringe. You're like, this guy's like literally the fastest talker in the world, eh? Like there's nobody that talks faster. And this guy, it's in a, it's in the books and shit.

Yeah. Vocabular. Genius. Crown Eminem is the music artist with the most vocabulary. So he has so much vocabulary. He studies it all day. It's all he does. I do know a music artist with a better vocabulary.

Oh, well, yes, Drayman. David Drayman. Drayman has his, what is he, what is it? He says he has a large vernacular. Vernacular. His vernacular is incredible. And I can't disagree. I can't disagree.

Eminem has the largest vocabulary in the music industry, according to a study. Flo. Eminem is a guy who's mastered over 1,000. Wait, according to a study, that was all the information. that they gave. Yeah, it's the largest vocabulary in the music industry. I don't know, but I think generally when you're talking, when you're citing a study, you have to give some information on the study. You can't just say it was a study. Was it peer reviewed? Yeah. Mr. He doesn't understand morning radio. No, because they'll even say that according to a study from the whatever

institute. From Rutgers University. Yeah, exactly, right? That's all I'm looking for. I'm not looking for that much information. I just want something. Well, I love this line. The next category is flow. Eminem as a guy who's mastered over a thousand flows, which, by the way, I don't know how to quantify. I don't even know what that means.

Well, it does mean, it is something. Like, it is really, I mean, it is like you can change your flow up obviously. And it's like, it's like a thousand times does seem like also what. He might be splitting airs there. It might be some of the flows are the same. It's like, give me an example of five flows, you know, like one flow. Yeah, one flow. Two flows.

I want to know two flows. Yes. Are you, you guys, but you do know, like, but Tupac has a very, very well-defined flow. So you can almost hear it. And he only uses one. And that is kind of like a well-known, like, all I see his race, his faces, misplaced, say. Like, that's his flow. And it stays the same.

No, I'm not going to do that. But I'm getting up out of my chair. Keep going on. Yeah. But I think that, like, and there are rappers. that are known who can switch up their flow. And they can rap completely differently. And it sounds completely.

Even like Cardi B does it sometimes where she's done it in a song where I think maybe even in Bodak Yellow or something, she switches flows like a number of times in the same song. But yeah, a thousand flows seems insane. It seems hyperbolic. It seems hyperbolic, definitely. Well, that's not true, though. He goes, Eminem is a guy who was mastered over a thousand flows. He brought new flows to the game, which no one ever saw.

Tupac just had one flow, except for the songs he has with Dr. Dre. No, he's right. They are, that is, I think people will argue with it, but if you listen to Tupac, you can hear it. You can basically take his, his, like, the lyrics or like the vocals and put it over a different track of his, and it will always work. And it always is essentially, like, he is rapping in the same sort of way. I don't, I don't dislike or like them, but that is, that is something people say for sure. I understand what you're saying. It's just weird to to put that number on.

Like, yeah. Or just to even give it a number. I think it's, I feel like it's kind of unique to the beats and stuff. And there's some people that just have a range. And I guess maybe he has more range. Yeah. He did a different.

He did, he rapped different. And do you remember the, the group Digital Underground? Yeah. Yes. He did a verse on that same song. It was from the nothing but trouble soundtrack. Mm-hmm. I'm sure crazy movie by the way.

Yeah, I, I'm sure he's, because he's put out a lot of stuff. So he did put out a lot of stuff. So I'm sure there are instances where you can find him like wrapping a different flow. And I think you're right. Anybody who's saying like, this rapper has 17 flows, this rapper has 25. This rapper has 190. That is bizarre. Like, that is weird.

Because it's like, I think Eminem could just come in there and do this staccato stuff and, you know, just do these kind of surprising wrap on the downbeat. or whatever. I'm really exposing my limit. My brother. Yeah. But I see what this guy is saying. It's just,

yeah. It's just, it's hilarious. It's like punk music, right? Like, it's like I'm not judging tool on the same thing that I'm judging like a punk band.

I don't want to say one because whatever. Circle bears. Because half of them end up being like racist or so. The dead boys. You know what I mean? It's like judging. Rancid. All right.

Storytelling. Tupac is a really good storyteller. But if you've heard songs like Mocking Bird, Kim, cleaning out my closet headlights. Yeah. Kim is a lot about murdering his ex-life. Have you heard that song? Yeah. It's got, first of all, a hell of a flow and two.

It's a great story. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to clarify. I listen to it all the time. for inspiration. What the hell? Argument with my wife.

You argument with your wife when you're listening to you. Once you just listen to it, I make my wife listen to them. I'm like, listen to this. Have you heard this song? Have you heard this song before? That is like, that is some real passive aggressive spousal abuse there. Freestyle, Eminem was runner up in the rap Olympics. Okay.

96 so he will shred anybody who stands in front of him so in this department m&m wins hands down m&m would eat two pog alive in a battle rap ring i watched we were talking you were talking earlier about um eight mile and about how it didn't seem as like and that's obviously a movie about he's he's a battle rapper in it so he's like and i remember when i watched it that i was like holy fuck like i went crazy for his battles i was like he fucking ruined these guys like he ended their fucking life. And it builds to his big, his battle with Papa Doc.

Yeah, I was, I went back and watched it like, because I've been watching movie scenes on YouTube, like a real, you know, I did that recently too. Yeah,

like just watching like, like eight minute movie scenes on YouTube. You're trying to grow as an artist. So why watch the whole movie? We can watch some scene that you've seen before and not the whole movie. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I,

I, but I, and I watched a couple of these battle reps and some of them were really unimpressive. And I know, a movie obviously but that to me is like more of a because it's like you have a movie here you're you have time to really prepare all this shit and it just seemed like it's just like yeah your name's clarence it's like that was one of the things called the guy that's an own yeah i think yeah rabbit you know as rabbit that's his character in the movie oh yeah be rabbit yeah so they're trying to show growth

and but it is oh they're trying to show that he's getting better and stuff like that but even i never i watched all of them i watched every one of the of a battle rap. So I'm talking like even yeah, even the last one like I was like, because I've watched a lot of battle rapping like King of the Dot and stuff like that. And I used to like have a friend who. What? Fancy. Anyways, there's some. Yeah, it is. It's it is. Anyway. So I used to do a live talk show and I had like a battle rapper on and did a battle rap against him as this like comedy bit. I'd love the battle rap against somebody. But so. Just go out there and get destroyed. It just seems to me like just be like

dead serious about that was my that was the whole bit i did where i was just like i'm this talk to i was really arrogant and i was like i'll fucking destroy you and then he battle wrap me and i ran off stage with the mic still on me and i was like backstage crying and being like i don't want to go back out like leave me alone like stop and but yeah so i would go to a lot of those events and all of them you know the guys were saying shit that was so much better than what b rabbit was saying in eight mile like it was just like all of his stuff is pretty pedestrian right yeah totally I think I guess it was for like the mat. Like it was for like a mainstream audience too.

So they couldn't be saying like really gnarly shit that they do in the in the battle rap. Well, the next thing that Eminem has got over Tupac is he came up with some new subjects. That's such a funny thing to say about music. Why were you late for work today? I had to fucking get on Quora. and handle some shit, you know. Yeah, I had to handle this argument that's been going on.

I've been looking into. He goes, before Eminem rappers mostly were gangster rappers. Ice tea, Puck, Biggie, M talked about ignorant parents, drugs, and how nobody from a trailer park became the biggest selling hip-hop artist, which brings me to my next point. Types of music. Not afraid. Till I collapse.

Lose yourself. Motivational. Just lose it. We made you. My band. Funny Happy Songs. space bound stronger than i was headlights emotional sad songs kim kill you bonnie and clide violence hey violence against women i don't want to keep harping on that but he well hold on

before that's you're making that point i just want to look up what's uh i'm looking up billboard and what's number one on the violence charts because that is a genre of music This one, Haley's Revenge, the sauce. Nailing the Coffin, the Coffin, Dischracks. Who is Nail in the Coffin? Was that Machine Gun Kelly? I believe so, yeah. Like, who is he at a beef?

Probably Machine Gun Kelly. I know he was in one. That's the last one he had. Because that was, like, I never heard the music, but I remember hearing that he, like, a line he said about Machine Gun Kelly. The next thing, the next type of song is Shake That and Ass like that, which he categorizes the songs. about bitches. God damn. And then the last one, WTP

Smack That, that's Club Records. So as you can see, he makes songs for all kinds of mood. But by the way, he makes songs for all kinds of mood. Violence. Bitches. Violence against bitches. Yeah.

Yeah, it all seems like, I guess it is different situate. He makes, he makes songs for different situations in a very specific person's life. That's what I will say. He goes, and then finally, we got it, we got the last one and listen. Sales.

Evan is the biggest selling artist. I repeat, biggest selling artists, not just a rapper of the last decade. He's the second highest selling artist of Nielsen Soundtrack era. But Tupac was murdered when he was 25 years old or something, right? Like, he got 25 more years to sell records and make records. Yeah, there is like, it's like the Babe Ruth argument or, you know, how many games played and all that shit. Yeah. But there is, I do like this guy going hard for Eminem and God bless him for, you know, this, like how much he's thought about all this shit.

It is very funny and impressive. But I do love he's going so hard and he's like, hey, guy fucking was runner up at the Rap Olympics. So number two there. Yeah. And then it's like he's number two for top selling records. Yeah, of all time. He's number two. He's the second highest selling artist of Nielsen's soundtrack era.

Yeah, what is that? No, that I don't know. And listen, I'm a person that is kind of obsessed. I like, I'm not going to say it. Anyway. Wait, we know, you have to say it now. Yeah. Just business stuff of like entertainment and shit.

Like I like box office and record sales. I know why you didn't want to say it. Because it's part. This guy, like, it's from radio, it's from you being obsessed with radio before, probably, right? Yes. Like, like, because I, I'll be, when I was younger, I was, I was like, I would love to see the Nielsen ratings. I hear about them all the time. I'd love to like, and it was even, I was young.

So there wasn't like internet access in the same sort of way where I could just go find the Nielsen ratings. And that was something that was really interesting to me. And like, who's the best radio? What are you talking about, Brian? You want to know, like, quarter the earnings and stuff? I don't think it's that, but I was just about to say something that was going to be really embarrassed. I'm just going to say it. It's fine.

Don't go too hard on me. I do read variety. This guy, he lives in Columbus, Ohio. I know. I know. Believe me, I fucking know, okay? So where do you get it from? Where do you get it from?

I have Apple News. Okay, so you don't have a, you don't have like a physical copy. No, no, no. I have the Apple news subscription and you can read Variety and Deadline. So you just like, like, I mean, you want to see in the trades. You want to see like what's going on. What's coming out to tell you the truth? Like I want to know what movies are coming out.

Oh, so it'll tell you like, because I want to know that too, but I don't go to variety for that. I have these sites that are just like movie release calendar and it has all wide release movies. And I go, I look at that all the time where I'm just like, okay, this Friday, what's coming out. Can I see it on streaming? Check a torrent situation, theater situation. Dude. Yeah. Same. There used to be a website called upcoming movies.com that I would go to all the time. Ryan. That was I used to go there all the time. When I worked in the call center, yeah, I would spend the entire eight hours looking at upcoming movies. I'll send you guys a couple. We should share sites because I have a couple of them that are really, really good. And like there's some that have like all, like there's

one for all the Asian movie release calendar. So it shows you when Asian like Korean movies. are coming out streaming and Japanese movies and stuff. And yeah, I keep up on that. Like, I will know when every single movie is coming out and how to watch it, no matter what. I think I'm very similar to you guys. And growing up, I would, I learned about the trades from looking at these movie sites because they would reference them. Yeah.

And so, and I think it was born out of a love of movies, obviously. And, and also just being so hungry for anything. Like, I would, at first, I grew. to love Siskel and Ebert, but I would watch it initially because they would show clips of movies. And I was so fucking horny for movies. I would just like, they're going to show a clip

of fucking Temple of Doom. I'll just watch it. I'll sit through the review just to watch a clip of the shit. Totally, because I'm going to, we did nostalgic guys a little while ago, a couple months ago maybe, and yeah, they, oh God, it was a good episode. But, but we talk, like, yeah, because you're going to the movie

store to get movies. So it's like, you know, they're not just popping up wherever you want to them, you're having to go watch them. So yeah, just getting to see, like, I talk about watching scenes on YouTube. That wasn't no shit. You want to see a scene. You have to like find it somewhere, like in the wild. Yeah. It used to be hard. And like my dream, um, growing up was a strong language, but I want you mentioned Nielsen. Like you heard about Nielsen families and they got a box. Oh yeah. And they were part of that system. Like I just wanted to be involved and like look at shit. I had that. I had the box. You were a Nielsen family. Brian was a Nielsen family.

For like a period when I, listen, I didn't, my rating was literally just everything that everybody watches. I was a Nielsen. We were a Nielsen family. It was me, my friend Nate and my wife. And we lived together and we had the box. And they send you a dollar, weird thing. So like, they sent you a crisp $1 bill to get your. It's some kind of weird thing where they have to.

You must have fucked the algorithm. I'm so bad. No, we didn't fuck the algorithm. We watch just like, this is at the period where like, yeah, this is a period when like friends, like must see TV Thursday was out and then Survivor was on. And we're just watching all that stuff. You know what I mean? Like all the same shit people watch. Because there was a period in my life and anybody, my age is life where I don't know if this is totally true, but I've talked to other people who go this way that on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, you had shows that you just didn't. miss and at like eight o'clock you're like well i watch this show at eight o'clock on this channel and this show at

nine o'clock on this channel like you had a full on schedule for the night where you would watch shows and like that was when ratings were higher because everybody was fucking having a show sunday night i remember of course like the sunday night you know simpsons fucking all that shit i remember that and but yeah even younger than that the thursday night friends Seinfeld shit like that yeah you used to He used to have a TV night, you know? You're like, holy fun. Yeah, must see TV or whatever. All right.

Let's look at some reviews of 8 Mile. Now, I want to read the Rotten Tomatoes scores because I think they're important for this. Love rotten tomatoes. Brian, by the way, do you live in? Where do you live? I live in L.A. Studio City, like in the Valley of Los Angeles. Los Angeles. See, Brian, this is.

He's out there. I'm going out there soon. Brian goes there all the time. He's always trying to like, yeah. So if you could like take him to. an Aeroon or whatever. Yeah, dude. Fucking Arawan.

Let him have a smoothie and run around in the play area or whatever. Yeah, I would be honored, dude, to have you fucking join me at an era. We'll get the $30 shit there. Oh, he'll try to get some add-on to make that shit in 40. I've seen a couple of celebs sightings at the air one I go to. I only will, it's by my gym and which is danger. I would never, it's so expensive. It should just be a treat, but it's the convenience of it.

Who did you see? I would love, I love celebrity. Up sightings. I saw Stephen Tyler. And so, uh, yeah. He was with an assistant or something and, you know, somebody that was just shopping with them and like, you're fucking crazy rich if you're grocery shopping at there. I mean, they're in like, he's buying produce there.

And so, I mean, I don't know what his total was when he checked out. Stephen Tyler, I think is, uh, yeah, he's, I'm thinking he doesn't have to worry about money anymore. The guy who's just totally. The older, is that you talked to an older person. about like yeah i think probably stephen tyler doesn't have to worry about his money situation anymore he i'll tell you did you see in any other celebrities well i was going to say he i was like so i just tried to get as close as i could to see if i could overhear anything he was saying

and um all i could catch was the tail end of some statement he made and it was so we're good on apples and uh did you smell him by any chance oh nice nice question that's all i care about. I didn't. I wasn't able to smell him. I also saw him at the at the gym one time and look live close by there maybe. I think or like this was I don't know why I mean I think it's like close to the Hollywood Hills like I'm on the other side of if you think of like the Hollywood Hills oh I do all the time. If you think of them there's sunset Boulevard and West Hollywood on one side and then there's the valley on the other side. Brian is just like literally look at around like a fucking lost dog right now.

I'm not. I'm saying, oh, this is beautiful. I know all of this shit. I know all these streets like the back of my hand. It sounds to me like you're, yeah, this is basic. This is just like a Sunday for me. And it's funny that you that the guy you saw was Stephen Tyler, because I say this a lot. Like, I live by the concert venues here, right? Right. Like I live like by most of them. Okay. And obviously there's guys like famous guys. And, and, and, you know, and, you know, and, you know, bands and so walking around here when they come here to perform they're they're doing something and i don't think i would ever be able to identify a famous guy because even when they film movies here and stuff like i don't think i'd be able to identify him in public unless they look like step and tyler oh yeah he was

like a guy yeah he's unmistakable he was in full at the gym he was in full regalia like all his shit and I looked down here like little tiny feet. I like Erosmith fine. I'm not like the biggest fan in the world. Like I like him fine. But for some reason, this is why these stories I'm telling you. So I'll leave it at this one.

But I look down at his feet and he had like that I don't even know what kind of shoes they were like what brand. Like there's no way you could ever determine what brand. So I don't know what that is. And like he was like walking around with like a trainer and hugging the guy. He kind of looked like a like a frugal or. a small avatar or like a small

like a small like uh is he's almost he almost like looks like otherworldly or something yeah or like yeah like dark crystalish or yeah yeah yeah I feel that like he's like he's he might get your chakra or something yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he was on the treadmill behind me with his trainer and I was doing some stationary bike and I was able to get a little bit more this time and all I heard was the trainer was saying something about like people being, you know, everybody's like so vain here or whatever. The guy's just like trying to connect with them.

And then Stephen Tyler was speaking much at a much higher volume and said, there's nothing wrong with being a little vain man. Keeps you looking good. He's very pro-vay. Saying people are vain to Stephen Tyler seems like a psycho thing. Yeah, totally. The guy had fucking jewelry and shit on the treadmill. It's like, well, you know, I've seen a couple of celebrities. I'm sure you see celebrities.

you're right. Like if you're in LA and stuff and you don't even realize it because of just wearing a hat and they're just like a guy with brown hair or whatever. And they're like five foot 11. And it's sort of hard. You know, like there's so many guys that looked like that. The two that I have known, I saw Stephen Merchant in Vancouver and obviously Stephen Merchant is like at six foot seven. And it was, yeah, that was one that I knew. And then the other one I've mentioned before the podcast was Melrose Larry Green. That was at a 7-Eleven in Los Angeles, close in Hollywood and the reason I knew it was him is because he was saying, do you know who I am? I'm Melrose Larry Green to the person working.

What an experience. I fucking love. I love the Howard Stern guys. I go crazy. Buddy, it was crazy for me. Stefan was there with me. Past guest Stefan Heck. And he was just like, let's go.

And I was like, no, we got a fucking watch. This is like, this is my dream what I'm watching right now. So 8 Mile has a rotten tomato score from the critics of 76%. It's pretty high. Good score. Especially back then. Especially back then, by the way, because the new ones are much higher now. So that's a good score.

Yeah, I listen to you guys talking about it. They're juke in the stats. They do. They figured out how to game the system. But the popcorn meter, which is the audience score, 54%. That's wrong. That's interesting. That's very low.

And I wonder, is there like a specific, did it get review bombed or something? I don't think. Maybe it did, though, by the Trump people when he did. his anti-Trump thing they might have review bombed it right we are doing m&m guys so i only picked good reviews okay uh this first one's great five stars to let y'all know the 50% 54% audience score is beyond average i don't know why shitty rotten tomatoes doesn't count 51% and beyond as fresh 54's a great score as more people love this film beyond average and so getting getting in the weeds about the system and like how is 50

That's a good angle. I didn't think anyone to take that angle. Dude, I same. I never would have guessed in a million years. Yeah, that's like, how is that? That's actually known as a passing grade.

It's actually over 50%. It's actually not. It's a passing grade. Yeah. 50%. No, 60% is a passing. Yeah.

No, it depends on what you're doing. But yeah, like in school and when you're in like high school or when you're like, you know, 50% is, maybe it's different in Canada because 50%

lower than 50% would be an F, higher than 50% would not be a fail. Yeah. Oh, 60 and under. Yeah. God, that is fucking hilarious. First things first, more than half the people liked it. That's fresh. That is fucking fresh.

He's kind of right. I don't like, I'll say this. I don't like what the, I actually don't like the threshold for rotten either. Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that it is like, it's like, a 60% movie is rotten or a 65% movie is rotten. I think they're compensating. I think you have to trust the rotten tomatoes people. I really,

I trust them with my life. And I believe that they are over, they're compensating for what they know is like a bias that movies have. So they're like, hey, for an audience to be, a score to actually be good and fresh, it has to be over 60%

because they're going to have their built in fans or whatever that are just going to do it. And it's like, they figured it out, algorithm-wise. That's what I think. Hey, R-slash, Rotten Tomatoes, and then post it, man.

I think you're, you know. Except for what they need to figure out is these deceptive players who are involved in this, who are managing to figure out how to game this system. That is the big problem here. And I would like to,

you know, those YouTube expose videos that you see all the time where they're just like, do you see what's happening with this YouTuber? Like, you know, he's fucking, you know, he killed a whole school. Village of people.

Whatever. And so I want to see one of those on the Rotten Tomatoes audience score existing gaming. Figure it out. And this, pardon me, I'm sure it's been discussed endlessly, but I don't like that it's become the arbiter for a well-reviewed movie and people not, you know, people just looking like, is it fresh, is it not? And then stopping there. It is kind of a bummer. I disagree personally. I like, I respect that, but I do, I am, I love Rotten Tomatoes. I would die for rotten tomatoes. And I believe that when they figure out this system, and I think that I think it's really nasty people involved who are gaming the system, the mafia probably and terrorist organizations. And when they get that cleaned up,

I believe I really do actually go and look and I'm like, if this movie is over 75% or whatever and with this, I will like it. And it never, maybe one set of every 10 movies, it leads me astray. but it really, it's a good indicator for me. The only thing, well, just the last thing I'll say this, the only thing it works for on me is if it's poorly reviewed. If it's well reviewed, I can't trust it.

But if it's poorly reviewed, it's usually right. So if it's a, if it's a splat, I'm usually like, yeah, they're probably right. But if it's like a 90, sometimes I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? It depends on the amount of reviews sometimes, I think, but anything that's been reviewed a lot of times, like over 100 reviews and it's a 90%er. I can't think of maybe there's been two or three that where I've been like, what the fuck?

This is horrible. There's some shit where I'm like, it's like some fucking Marvel thing or something where it's like a hundred percent. It should win an Oscar. And I'm like, what the fuck? I know. I just saw the thing that was like,

uh, they sent out the four year consideration things for, uh, Thunderbolts. I'm like, that movie fucking sucked, man. Thunderbolts was good.

Thunderbolts was good. I'm like, that's like on the level of raging ball or something. Thunderbolts was good. You guys are you guys have a negative view of films. Thunderbolts was a fun, nice little time. Had a good time. I believe I was,

uh, was probably on about a half gram mushrooms. Don't really recall what happened in the film. It was a lot of fun. Like David Harbor so pumped to do his fucking stupid Russian accent. I was just like, what the fuck is this? Like they're,

the, the enemy at the end is sadness. Yeah. It's like, I can't do this, man. Oh, oh, oh,

oh, you've never experienced to that feeling that just feeling of, you know, you're just like, oh, I just don't feel great, you know? I mean, we've all experienced that, right? The best thing to do for that is family. And then it's like, I want him to do it. I love his Russian accent. It is, I will say this. I actually liked Thunderbolts.

I'm not lying when I say that. I lie a lot, but I'm not lying when I say that. But it, the accent is tough. The accent, that Russian accent is tough, man. When you realize, this is the whole movie he's going to fucking. What I'm saying? I'm like, oh, this guy's in a lot of the movie and he's not going to stop doing the accent. When that sort of sunk in for me, I was like, oh, that does kind of suck.

Well, here's a five-star review from Stephen. He goes, Eminem's the best. Shame you only got to see his booty. He could have turned around or sideways. Could have been looking at us all sideways. He wanted to see side dick. Could have been looking at the salt. Whatever.

Yeah, he wanted to see. I've begun to see his booty He could have been looking at us all sideways I mean all we get to his booty I'm fine I love seeing his booty Would you think it was It's his booty His booty is in the movie?

I believe so I wonder if it's his actual booty Or if they did a stunt boot Boot booty Yeah but yeah this guy is like so He's like listen I know Beggers can't be choosers

I love this guy guy's booty quite a bit and I got to see it. But if you would have turned to the side, I could have also seen his penis. Yeah. And that's really what I was looking for. Well, we understand that. Remember, we had that, what's that website until we went to, Brian? The rock and roll people website about their penises?

Yeah, it's like, it's a website where like people who have slept with rock stars or whatever will go and post and talk about the sexual experience and the person's penis size and stuff. And we went on there to find out about, what's his name? Like a rock and roll guy. No, Lars, Lars, all right. Alrick. Lars Olrick's penis.

And we found it. He seemed small to me. Yeah, that's what I said. But he was said to be normal size, but he was also noted to be very annoying by all the people who we hooked up with. Wow. So it's not just his public persona. No, no. No.

Yeah. No. He's down to earth. So this guy goes, four stars. This is a look into the seedy underbelly of life in America. It's very difficult to watch from a position of privilege. as you actually see how dreadful that life. I mean, listen, I don't know that it's that type of movie where there are movies that are like, yeah,

where it's just like, I don't know that that's the focus of this movie really. It's mostly on the wrapping. Guy with six figures in his bank account being like, I don't know if I can handle this. I don't want to see this. It's too much. I feel bad watching it. He goes, guilty about, yeah, the poverty I'm watching in this film.

I mean, it is like he is like from the like the side of the tracks or whatever. from eight mile and he is that is like a focus of the movie a little bit right is that he's poor coming from a lot of road poverty right oh yeah driving into detroit they have one mile two mile i've been on eight mile are there a lot of uh women that look like kim basinger that are mom's and several of actually i just stopped to get food and every time i do it i'm like should we stop an eight mile i think that's kind of a bad neighborhood but everything i know about eight mile is from the movie eight mile like i don't know any You know what I mean?

He goes, it's a movie that encourages empathy for those who rely on a one and a million career in music or a lucky bingo card to make rent. Everybody should watch it once, but I don't think I will ever watch it again. It's just too raw. It's too raw. It should be like, it should be something that they play in the schools. Like everyone does need to see it once, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't say it's. smart to watch it again just from the psychological stab point.

Finally, three and a half stars. Acting plus story. I loved M. Story. Yes, you have described to movies, sir. Yeah, that's what they are. I loved M's story arc on how he came from nothing. The problem I have is with the villain and their beef with M. It's very one-dimensional.

Quote, I don't like you because you hurt my feelings is what it felt like when I'm trying to watch a hardcore movie. I accepted the villain to be less, I expected, sorry, he goes, he spelled accepted. I expected the villain to be less but hurt about life. So half star, editing music, the way it was put together was not well-paced in my opinion. Kept interest plus recommend. Not to everyone, watch again or buy. Probably not.

Okay, a little confusing. I am finally. I just wanted to, uh, uh, this is the last thing we're going to do because, this is a new part of the show. Oh, by the way, here's just a post from R-Sach Eminem. Is it mirro? Does Eminem look so badass with his beard? He looks so badass with his beard.

He looks like he's going to fuck you up. Is that them trying to convince themselves? Yeah. I think that's like something everybody can agree on that the beard doesn't work, but maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, no, I think the beard looks bad. It looks like Woolly Willie.

Like I have a beard right now, which I don't often have. I usually have a mustache like Ryan. He's just trying to, he's fishing for compliments. But I have. It looks. We already did it. I'm already gotten, but I, I, I, I, I'm not fishing for compliments because I was going to comment that last episode, we recorded. And you and the guest commented that my beard made me look like new M&M.

And it made me seriously consider immediately shaving it off and going back to the mustache. Because that's how bad of a look I think. is. It doesn't look drawn on. Do you guys remember when COVID happened? Do you follow DJ Callet at all? Oh, yeah, of course. Well, I, I follow like he hits the guy with Bob Marley's guitar. He, so he's got like this crazy beard that's all, you know, manicured and done or whatever. And then when COVID happened, he couldn't get the beard drawn in and stuff. And so he just didn't have the products and It was all like gray and patchy and all the shit. And it was this kind of like his fucking, you know,

carriage turned back into a pumpkin for sure. But anyway, I wonder if I was like, is it just Eminem's thing now or is he going to like, does he still have the beard? Is that just that's like his look now? Yeah, that's like his full on look. I actually watched Roof Man last night. I watched it in theaters.

Channing Tatum's facial hair was so annoying to me. And also I kept saying, tickle me Elmo wasn't 1999. or they didn't have peanut butter M&M's in 1999. Those are pretty new. Anyway, have you ever met Eminem? What was he like? Here we go.

I never met him, and I won't say I'm the most amazing judge of character, but I know he's genuine and wholesome. I love the man and his work would definitely like to meet him someday. I love the man in his work. Definitely like to meet him someday. Have you ever met Eminem? I would say that, now listen, they are just asking, have you ever met him?

but I would say that this thread is mostly for the people who have met him. Yeah. And are going to answer with the affirmative. And I would say if you haven't, you don't really need to reply to this one. You're not adding. Yeah. Well, this guy goes, this is the closest I've gotten. When I went to an M&M concert, I had these kind of shit seats.

I was really off to the side and didn't have the best view. I did, however, have a great view from behind the stage. I saw Paul smoking a cigar, Skyler Gray dancing to the music. Eminem arrived in a car Westside boogie Whoa that's like what I drive That's what I would arrive at if I was going somewhere Same here

I'm freaking out I'm freaking out Me and Eminem have the same thing If you tell me it's a midsize SUV I will ship my pets Well West Side boogie was chilling and talking to some fans during the show I didn't get close enough to say hello

But I waved and he gave me the P sign back So well, that's, that's something. It reminded me of like, uh, Billy Madison where it's like Billy drinks soda, the guy he pays to spy on Billy Madison or the janitor or whatever. Yeah. It's just like, I mean, listen, I don't, I don't even know that that story is true that that he gave the peace sign to him. The peace sign, you know, I don't know that the peace sign part is true. The rest of it is, but he sort of realized he's just like, this story doesn't really have like a good kind of like. Yeah.

part it's like not good enough he's like maybe i throw in that he gives me the peace sign at the end and that it sort of is kind of a meeting that's the concert too by the way where he's probably just doing piece yeah he's doing it to who knows yeah that's what i'm saying it's like there's a crowd full of thousands of people there you think that he was doing it right to you it's when you write like a week term paper or something and you're like i got to add something else in here yeah i fucking i waved you gave me the peace sign that's something yeah you know and this next guy goes no but my uncle has, which is always the start to a true story. That's cool.

Is there any, does he have the story from the uncle? He does have some details. Okay. Okay. And I love this. This is one of my favorite exchanges. It was in like 2007. His friends were going to meet Eminem and M and no one was saying if they wanted to go because

they had one more spot. So my uncle said, sure, I'll go. And they had a whole group photo. Now. Okay. So they're like, hey, we got one extra spot to meet. Eminem. Does anyone want to go? And everyone's like, no, thanks. Unfortunately. I love the details. People were like going to go. They didn't have a spot.

My uncle was like, hey, man, maybe I can go. And they're like, all right, you can come along. You're the uncle. Come along with us, uncle. Next reply is, I never even knew he did meet and greets. You sure? 2007? No way. That was a wild time. So now this person's like, your lion mother. Oh, it was a meeting greet. But maybe it wasn't. He didn't say meet and greet, did he? Like, maybe it was just like. they were going to meet him, which maybe it was a meet and greet and there was one more spot left in the car. Or yeah, maybe it was just a spot in the car and they were just going to meet M&M. Like one of them was friends with them and they're like, okay, I'm going to go meet my friend

Eminem. He's a very famous rapper who would like to come with me in the car. We have six seats. We could maybe squeeze one into the back. Hey, fuck it. I'll go. Next guy goes, I'd fist bump him and say, thanks for the memories. Fuck yeah.

No, honestly, he would respect that. He would respect that. Did they like it when you, Ryan, they like it when you treat them like an everyday person because everybody else is like putting them up on a pedestal. So that's what you don't do. What you do is you just treat them like a normal person. Like, what's up, man? What's up?

Don't blow it. Hey, I think you could connect over the lions. It is weird to see him like on the sidelines. Connect over the lions. That's so good. That's the mindset. Sorry to cut you off. That is the mindset of those guys.

Like, well, I mean, I like the lions. Like maybe I just like talk. to him but like the fucking the receiver cord this year or whatever Jared Goff. Yeah, yeah. He's just like fucking defense isn't really, you know, like that is such their mindset

of like if I get them. I'll never forget. I will never forget. I believe it was the death metal show where a guy was like, I usually don't care to meet celebrities, but I was at this concert and they were signing autographs and I came up and yeah. You know, I got the autographs.

and I looked at her and I was like, you know, isn't it crazy? These fans, like these people are crazy. They just believe in this like celebrity thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, he was at he was in the line for the autograph and he's like, check out these people. Hey. Like, yeah. Fuck. It's sad. It's sad. It's sad. It's honestly sad. It's honestly sad. It's honestly. It's just an empty life to tell you the truth. That's kind of what a lot of, I think that like, yeah, that's the worst attitude you can have. You want to just. Exxat. accepted. Hey, I'm a really big fan of this person. I'm really excited to see them. This is a big moment for me and not try to get too excited about it. But yeah, those people who are like, fuck, man, it's like, it's listen, man, at the end of the day, it's like, fucking he's got to piss fucking shit twice a day. Fucking got to have his fucking breakfast in the morning as well. At the end of the day, we both came out our mom's pussy. We both going to go in the fucking grave. You know what I'm saying? Now we're talking about our mom's pussy. Well, now that's a conversation. me and Eminem could talk about. Relax. You can connect over that. I met The Rock one time. I got to meet The Rock. And I had this whole plan in my mind of how it was going to go because I was working as an intern writing script coverage at this production office.

And they were doing a movie with him. And so he's coming in the office. It's a very small office. It was basically like. Holy shit. I hope not too small. He's a giant guy. He's a big guy.

I'm like, is this guy going to fucking fit in here? Yeah. It was, you know, it was like early rock too when he was still pretty big. Balloon arms, yeah. And so, you know, it's maybe there was two principal guys myself and then they had an assistant. And so, you know, I'm going to see him in there. He's going to talk to these guys. So it's not like a, it's not like he's flashing the P sign to a hundred thousand people

at a concert. You're going to interact with him for house. Yeah. And so I'm thinking like, oh, shit, you know, he's, I played college football. We both played football. I can, you know, Schwarzenegger. I don't know. I'm thinking like all this like dumb shit of how we're going to connect.

It's basically like the lions like, oh, with the lions with the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he's, you know, coming. We're hearing like his people are calling. It's like the tension is building. Like he's coming in the office. And so I'm going to be the first person he interacts with when he comes in the office. And so I'm thinking like, I'm going to make a joke.

And that's this is we're going to connect. Maybe be friends. I don't really think that. But like, you know, it's in the, it's in my mind. And so he comes in there and sees me and I just say like, hey, you know, I'm a really big fan and you're so funny, something dumb like that. And he shakes my hand and makes eye contact and he's very nice and says, thank you so much. And then walks right by to talk to the, and it was truly like the turnoff energy to where it's like, look, I have people wrestling fans that come up to me every

single day and show me tattoos of themselves or I mean, sorry, tattoos of me on their body. I have to shut this down immediately, but still be nice. And so he couldn't have been more nice, but it was like, it true, it was like a force field. And it literally like catapulted me backwards. And I'm like, okay, I will never bother him again. It's done. Yeah. I mean, that is that he's like a gigantic star and a gigantic man where it's like he's this

imposing figure and he's just like, yeah, like I don't know. That would be pretty intimidating. He's also involved in a sport of kings. to meet him. I met John Hamm at the UCB Theater one time. Just suck him off. He asked me if I smoked cigarettes. I said no. And then he starts smoking a cigarette inside and drinking a Budweiser beer. He is so fucking cool, man. I was just like, God, that guy is so fucking cool, dude. You smoke cigarettes? Never talked to me again. Never said it to more. He didn't even, you know, he was talking to the guy. He was doing a Mark Wahlberg impression with this guy, Dan. It was Doug Love's movies was on stage. And I was. doing comedy death ray or comedy bang bang the show afterwards and yeah he he was uh yeah so the guy came off who does the mark walberg impression now i forget what his name is but he does a very

famous one and then they were doing it together and i was just like hey fellas the biggest loser in the world finally just oh go ahead i was like say m&m famous interaction with mark walberg on total request, total request live with Carson Daly. And Walberg was out there promoting some movie. Eminem at the height of his fame says like, oh yeah, hey, what's going on? We're all here. We're just one big funky bunch. And like you can just tell like Walberg does not like it or him. Oh my God. Eminem's lucky. Lucky wasn't an older Vietnamese man or Mark Wahlberg might have seriously assaulted him. Finally, there's just two more stories here.

One is, yes, based on the situation, I would say he's very grounded and real. He didn't really give you the story. That's another way of saying down to earth, grounded and real. Here you go. This is our final story of meeting Eminem. I love this story. Told this story on here before long ago. Long ago.

What is this? What is this, the guy's podcast, retelling a story? Come on. What's upon a time not long, right? He goes, I used to rap when I was young, and I convinced proof to do a verse on my album when I was 18. I drove to Detroit, and he asked me to meet at 54 sound. He gave me the address, and I immediately recognized the name as a big M fan. I got there, and he told me that my, he told me and my homie to sit on the couch.

Tinkup was on the TV. While he... What's the Ron Shelton movie? Yeah. While he finished up and... And not to get up. He says, and he goes,

King Gordy was there and two big goons with guns. We're both chilling. And next thing I know, a small white dude pops out and asks for proof what we are, who we are. King Gordy was playing an arcade game. Next thing I know, Eminem came over and said,

What's up, fellas? Humble and shy as could be. We both just said what's up and look back at the TV. And he walked away. Wow. Electric story. That's fucking. Holy shit, like, that's the type of thing.

Like, that's like the, that's like closing scene of a movie good. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's just walk off. And then him just walks off into the sunset. We're back over. We want Kevin Costner to beat Don Johnson and golf. What's up fellas?

Humble and shy as could be. Shies could be. Wow. He's a down-to-earth guy. All right. That is M&M guys. He's the. guys in the back playing video games.

This is, let me just set the picture here. So good. Here's a review of his most recent album. Five stars. Eminem can do no wrong. And this much anticipated album proves it. He has a lot to say on a lot of things as usual. If you're from a certain generation or easily offended, listen anyway and man up.

Oh, that's a little bit of a usually. They'll say if you're from this, don't even bother listening. But now that's kind of a curveball. They're saying, listen. It's time to actually listen to it and step across the aisle and start understanding that now what I'm confused because I don't know what they think Eminem's politics are or what they're what they're going to. What's going to. What is he going to say that's going to offend them? I'm not really sure.

But anyways. Yeah, I don't know either. It's like his slim, shady like Tony Clifton character is, you know. Yeah. I'm crazy if you found, you find out that it's not actually Eminem that's playing like the same way with. Andy Kaufman. It's Bob Zamuda. It's Bob Zamuda that's

doing Slim Shady the whole time and he's like ripping off the fucking family and shit. Man, I could have done Slim Shady when I was like 90 or 20. I had like the dyed blonde hair and all that stuff. I was so cool. I love that look. Do you remember when he

did the VMAs and like there was a hundred like or a thousand blonde guys that all came out with the white t-shirts? It's a cool performance. Yeah, no, I remember. I thought that was the coolest. Caused me to go immediately to the drugstore the next day and my blonde hair dye and dye my hair blonde. So yeah, I remember.

Well, there's no doubt that he was like the coolest guy in the world for a period of time. That's just like facts. That is the show. Ryan, dude, tell people where to find you. Come over and listen to Action Boys. There's some free episodes. They can take a little, get a little taste. Hopefully we'll hook you in.

If not, you know, fuck it. Fuck it. It's all good. Yeah. Enjoy the free episodes. Yeah. It's all good. Yeah.

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I know we have a lot of action boys fans who listen to the podcast. I know that for a fact. They're going to go crazy for this. Oh, that's great. I listen to your guy's show. I love it. It's so fun. Yeah.

Thank you. We appreciate that. Seriously, we were joking around before about don't listen, but please everybody listen. We'll see y'all next week. Thank you.