Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 155 - Fishing Guys with HCJustin

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

We had real streamer and certified nice guy HCJustin on to talk about some mostly nice guys in the fishing community. We were introduced to the most honest fisherman Scott Martin. Some fisherman pet p...eeves, the scourge of the fishing community, youtubers and some really good fake conversations There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201  

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Starting point is 00:00:18 Welcome to guys, a podcast about the guys. I'm Brian. I don't know what that was. Just said it. And it came out that way. With me this week is my co-host, Chris. Guys. Yeah, you're really...
Starting point is 00:00:34 Must be something I'm doing outside of the show, like around the house. Guys. You're just really getting really into accents. You know, you've become so much more of an accent guy. You never used to go. go for accents. That's not an accent I don't think guys. Yeah, I think it kind of anyways, it doesn't matter. Hey, good to talk. You should hear this accent I was doing the other day when we weren't on podcast. So, can't do it here though. Yeah. Yeah. Woke. I mean, just also
Starting point is 00:01:06 because I don't know, it's like, it's not really the kind of stuff that we do really either. I mean, I don't really have any. I can't, well, as you've heard through however many episodes, we've done of this show. I can't do any accents at all. Well, anyone who's listening to Shocktober, the new season of Shocktober, also knows that I can't do any accent, but knows that you were trying. All right, let's get our guests on the show. We have Twitch streamer H.C. Justin. Hi, Justin. Oh, hello. Hello. How you doing? Yeah, he's a real, just for anyone who's going to be confused here,
Starting point is 00:01:40 he's like a real actual Twitch streamer. If you're thinking like, oh, like the go off kings, no not like that like he knows how to play the video games he's good at video games and he's like he's a proper twitch streamer so i just want to make that clear well i don't say i feel like people might get the wrong impression like oh he's a real twitch streamer so he's uh he's like slinging slurs around oh no that's not that's no we don't judge no i know that's not what you mean i just want to make sure yeah yeah no no he's actually one of the yeah he's very sweet you are just and i will say this and no disrespect to my good friends of golf kings you're you're my favorite twitch streamer and my favorite guy on twitch just are yeah go check me make it a nice guy episode because of you
Starting point is 00:02:24 i'm just letting you know that oh it's a nice guy episode yeah we do nice guy episodes very rarely joe pera got a nice guy episode how body got a nice guy episode if we have somebody on who we're just like this is a this is a real nice guy and we're not going to want to be so mean maybe then we're going to be doing a nice guy episode. And I told Brian, I said, this is, Justin is a nice guy. This is a nice guy. I hate being nice too. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Honestly, I, I, I, I feel that. Like, I, like, I know, I guess I'm a nice guy, but I love, I do love being mean. Yeah, of course. I get called by now and then. Everybody bad about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to, like, talk some shit. Yeah. And even like in life, like, I, I, I'm never mean, as Chris would know, I'm afraid of of everybody. So like when I get on the show and I can be like real mean. He's like a telephone.
Starting point is 00:03:19 He's like a telephone tough guy, keyboard warrior. He's like a podcast like. Yeah, he's like the podcast version of it. I wish I could have thought of. How about this a podcast powerhouse? You're a podcast powerhouse. Thank you. A paper gangster.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's what they, that's what they called P. Diddy and the thing I'm watching about P. Diddy. The 50 cent documentary? Oh, I love it. Yeah. Well, listen, I liked it at first. And then when I found out it was made by 50 cent, I liked it a lot more. Brian, can you, can you make, just make a few more references of things you're watching
Starting point is 00:03:53 right now. So we can date this episode. In early December. Okay. Well, hey, look, we're in late January. I'm probably in Miami right now. Woo. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:04:03 This seems like it comes out around Miami. You know, we're doing fishing guys, which are nice guys. Hey, listen, I barely found any mean fishing guys. Now, I did find some mean fishing guys. because there's always mean guys out there's going to be a couple of them but in general it does feel like it's a very it's very relaxing cathartic sort of thing i guess you are i want to do it you are sticking a hook into the fish so for the fishes standpoint is probably not so nice and i guess there'd be maybe nicer ways to do it versus like maiming a fish but well why don't we
Starting point is 00:04:36 just start there this time there's a guy that came to the r slash fishing gear and uh i I'm I, I, it's at the bottom. I didn't have him for early. Okay. Fishing for beginners is where he was at. Okay. This would be like us. This would be like us.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Is there a term for wanting to use fishing rods to deliver food to fish without? This guy's a reverse fisherman. This guy's doing reverse fishing. Oh, that's good. I'm hearing it was like, this guy's got to be a nice guy on a fucking planet, you know? Yeah. But then also the other guys like the fucking, the fisherman. who are like trying to catch the biggest fish they also kind of love them as well yeah they're
Starting point is 00:05:17 he's fat in the mouth I didn't even consider when I saw the the the subject of the thing I was like this is one of the craziest questions I've heard somebody asked he goes hi and this guy is me by the way because I've brought this up a million fucking not I've never said I want to feed the fish that's that's a whole different thing you know what I mean like saying I do want to fish. But you don't want to hurt them. I don't want to touch a fish.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I don't want to hurt a fish. I don't want to get hurt by a hook. And I don't want to have a fish suffocating in front of me. I don't want any of that stuff. But I do want to sit somewhere with a pole and stare. You can do that. This is my favorite hobby. So you,
Starting point is 00:06:04 yeah, you could just get a fishing. You just put a fishing line down there and don't have a hook on it. You could do all the things of fishing. You would never catch a fish, though. It's like that's by a lake with a stick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's kind of pointless, though. You could, well, yeah. I don't understand it. Maybe I can make like a lasso. And when the, when the fish swims into it, I can tighten it, pull it towards me, take a look at it, take a picture, and then let it go. You know what I mean? Brian, you could, I mean, it's maybe a little bit. You could, there is like fishing that doesn't, where you could just use a net out of a boat.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And then you, yeah, like you scoop up a fish or whatever. That's like a way that you could fish, I guess. but that's not really what you're looking for, right? You want to be doing the sitting and relaxing. I did that with plastic bags when I was like 17 with me and my friends were out in the woods, doing whatever we do. The woods. Oh, in a lake though, right?
Starting point is 00:06:58 No, a creek, a creek. Oh, I see. Okay. We were walking on a trail and there was water. We were there all day, running around, you know? And, yeah, we grabbed. We were just hanging out running around, just just running around, just running. around sober? No, but we saw some fish. We were running around. So you guys were taking a bunch
Starting point is 00:07:19 of drugs and running around in the forest? Yeah. Like, what's so crazy? Yeah. Like, were you playing games? Well, we did end up playing a game. We so here's what we do. We see a Oak Creek and we see some fish in it. We're like, let's run back to the car and grab some plastic bags out of the car. Not sure why the plastic bags were in a car. I'll never be able to answer that. Who know? I mean, plastic bags are a normal thing to have. They just show up everywhere. Yeah. And then we went to the water and we tried to scoop them up into the plastic bag. I don't know what we were going to do after that because we caught a few, but we were just like, eh, we're going to take it home. You know what I mean? No, you throw it back. That's what that's what we did. That's what we did.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Do, right? Yeah. Yeah. They're, yeah, if you're just, if you're not fishing to eat the fish, it's really funny. It's a group of guys that are afraid of touching a fish. Like, all of us didn't What kind of fish was it? What kind of fish? Like how big? Tiny fish. You know what I mean? Like they were just spinning around like, you know, I don't know. I see. I see. I understand. I got a fish the first time I put my, first time I cast it into the water in my whole life, I caught a fish. Wow. I'd be a great fisherman if I kept up with it. I've been told that by fishermen. By, by who you got patience? You're in. Yeah, that's what it is. Patience. And you do have, do you have patience? Yeah. I'm sure. No.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I don't think you have the patience for fishing. I think that you... You mean the guy that orders his drink and it goes like this four minutes later? Yeah, he's looking around behind him. Really... Or, yeah, the guy who, yeah, like, DoorDash's breakfast and stuff like that. Yeah, I guess you...
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, you probably wouldn't be a great fisherman, to be honest with you. Well, a scout told me when I was like nine, I would be a great one. Because I caught a... And he's not a scout necessarily. I know there's not fishing scouts. But that's nice. But he was a game. He went to college.
Starting point is 00:09:17 He went to hawking college to be a park ranger, which is really an incredible job, really. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that would be a sweet job. If you're an outdoors person, that would be one of the best jobs. He's like, you know, I threw my hook in the water and come back. I catch a fish. He cooks the fish later on, too. The fish I caught.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Oh, he cooked the fish that you. So he ate, did he give you some of it? Well, he did, but I don't like fish, so I didn't eat any of it. I see. My friends did, though. That guy was a pimp man. He also took us to the campgrounds. He went camping with us one time, and he brought a frog gigging thing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You know what that is? No. It's like a long stick that's like a pitch fork, the small pitchfork on the bottom, and you listen for bullfrogs, and then you jump and you go quack and you catch them, and then you eat the frog leg. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, I thought it was really cool at the time.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I probably wouldn't do it now, and I'd feel incredibly bad. You know what I mean? Justin, did you ever do any fishing? Have you ever fished in your life? I lived in Florida for four years. Okay. And I lived right by a lake. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And so I did go fishing a few times. And one of those times, I was like, you know what? I was like, I should go fishing. I should catch a fish. Like, I love cooking. So I was like, all right, I'm going to catch a fish. I'm going to kill. the fish, clean it, all that, fillet it, and cook it. And I felt so guilty. I felt horrible. I was
Starting point is 00:10:50 like, I could never do this again. I loved the actual fishing, but I was like, if I ever go fishing again, I need to bring like a fish killer with fish. Justin, I'll say this, because I'm not a vegetarian, like, I totally understand why vegetarians get mad at people who eat meat, but don't want to see how it's made. Yeah, yeah. But I'm also one of those people. Like, I'm saying, I mean, I think 95% of people are like that. I know, but most people won't admit it. You know what I mean? Like most people are like, oh, I'd see an animal.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I don't give a crap. Oh, I do. Yeah. I don't like to think of a chicken getting its head cut off when I'm eating it. And I'm eating chicken all the time. And I wish there was a different name for the food of chicken. Yeah, that's that we've talked about that. It doesn't, it has its own beef at least, pork, things like that.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You can kind of distance yourself a little bit. It'd be nice to just get locked. to you about it. But I can't, I'll be honest, it does not deter me at all. I eat so much chicken. It's crazy. And I just love it so much. I feel like I understand and I respect people who don't, but I love it. And when somebody gets mad at me for it, I get it. I like totally understand it. I'm being like a hypocrite or whatever. You know what I mean? I get it. So this guy goes, he does ask a few, he goes, hi, I like the idea of fishing as an activity, but never wanted to be involved in hurting fish just for fun more for the general vibe of casting a line so never considered
Starting point is 00:12:14 actually doing it i read someone suggests the idea of using the line to feed the fish without the aim of catching anything and i quite like the idea has someone who has only went fishing once and never came close to catching anything is this realistic plan this a realist there's likely more to consider but fish would eat what you throw wouldn't they that's all i'd really aim for so he wants to feed some fish. Yeah, I guess like it would, you might be upsetting the natural order of things in a way, I guess,
Starting point is 00:12:45 but I think, I don't know, I bet you that would be something you could do, right? Just giving small amounts of food. You can just like stand by the water and just like kind of throw things in. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:55 but they want to cast the line. That's the people want to do. That's the thing is the casting of the line because you're right. People do feed the fish all the time, right? They go to like an older person will go like, I'm going to go feed the fish. And people do it. They have their own.
Starting point is 00:13:07 own fish or whatever, but like the idea of casting a line, that might be fun. You get your own home fish tank, a big one. And then that's how you feed them is by casting the line in there to feed them. Oh, you're fucking speaking my language. I can do that. Yeah, that sounds nice, man, down an unfinished basement, do it in an unfinished basement. Forget about it. So one of the things I went and looked at, I went to this forum and it is called Bass Resource. And it's not, not about guitars. I went to that for the bass guys episode too. That was base resource.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That was base resource. This is bass resource. The ultimate bass fishing resource guide. And what I got stuck on most was tournament fishing. Because it's crazy, right? Like, did you hear about those guys that went to prison after cheating at tournament fishing? Yes. I have seen that story.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Justin, you never heard that? It's crazy. These guys were like hiding fish in a secret. compartment in their boat and also putting like lead in them like like putting they were they were like fish that were already caught then they cut them open and they put some weights in it when they weighed the fish and like there's a video of them getting caught like you actually see them get caught in front of a bunch of people yeah great video but then they ended up it like all fell apart for him and they ended up in jail for two years or something like that for like other stuff
Starting point is 00:14:37 But that was what led to them getting in trouble. It was great. So I was kind of watching a lot of stuff on YouTube about tournament fishing after I heard that. So like I saw this this thing and I thought it was really interesting. And this is about a guy from the tournament. You're not going to know him. It's the name Scott Martin. And he was in a tournament at Lake Okeechobee, okay, which is such a fishing.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's such a fishing thing to say, I'm fishing at Lake Obichobi, Obie Choki. I'm never going to say that right. Did you say it right? Okey Chobie. Okay. I thought you said it wrong. Well, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:14 From the Bass website, this is from the official bass website. What do you mean? Like the tournament people. Oh, okay. The Major League fishing. You know what I mean? Officials received a call on the morning of February 26
Starting point is 00:15:27 from Elite Series Pro Scott Martin. Self reporting. Self reporting. Felt bad. What? The guilt got to them. I know. but wait until you hear what he did.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You guys are not going to believe what he did. Okay. Self-reporting a violation of Rule C3.3. Practice in competition 2A and J concerning the receipt of information to gain a competitive advantage from a non-competitor. Martin admitted to having a conversation with a local angler about conditions at certain locations on Lake Okeechobee
Starting point is 00:16:02 after the no information period was in effect. So apparently there's, he's having a beer at the local beer at the local pub and some angler says something to him and he's just like he's now sitting there all night long like his wife is like what's going on he's just like i just don't know what to do you know i don't know what the right thing to do is this is this is this is the this is the honorable the honorable fisherman right here i i want to listen hey scott what's his name scott martin scott martin scott martin you just can't yourself a follower, sir.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Once I'm into fishing, Scott Martin will be my favorite fisherman. He's just, he's honestly like, yeah, fair play compilation in fishing, like, like those soccer compilations
Starting point is 00:16:53 where it's players being sporting. That's funny. Isn't the rule funny though, too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. In fact,
Starting point is 00:17:03 an embargo. Yeah. Like you're not, I think it obviously. can. If they're making a rule, Brian, I think that there's some thing where like, hey, we're going to fish on this leg and if you've been fit, but then wouldn't there be some of the people competing? Or maybe you're not allowed to compete on your own home leg. If you are. If you're not receiving information. But that seems unfair. You have such an advantage. But I guess that's
Starting point is 00:17:26 that's the same as at any sport. Right? You have an advantage. Yeah. If your home team. So I guess, yeah, it did totally. To me, it makes sense. Yeah. You could really ruin some guys. careers just like just run up to him and just be like that comes down we fish off you're shit man you hire if you're fishing against someone he's fucking out-andling you big time every or out you know then you just hire somebody like like what's it this is like tanya harding get get those guys to go do it you know there's fish over if you go north yeah that's all you got to do you get a bunch of you trick a bunch of you trick a bunch of of your competitors
Starting point is 00:18:08 into coming for some presentation. It's a power point with pictures of places to fish. Yeah. And then it's a bunch of insider info from a local angler
Starting point is 00:18:20 and they're all disqualified. He's running away, plugging their ears, screaming. After the, so he goes, la la la la. This is,
Starting point is 00:18:31 this is so after, he goes, due to the infraction, Martin has been disqualified from, the 2025 champion power equipment bass master elite on Lake Okeechobee and has been assessed a fine. So you can also get, it costs them money. I can't believe they disqualify.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I can come up and tell you some information and then it will cost you a bunch of money. Listen, the disqualification is whatever. Okay. I mean, it sucks and it's, but, but you know, you're talking. You're going to take money from me. You're stealing my money now because some guy told me. me something at the bar. Wait, I have to pay you?
Starting point is 00:19:12 I wonder what the fine is, man. I hope it's not a lot of money. They don't say. He goes unintentionally and inadvertently. I received information that violated the no information rules, said Martin. I was rigging my boat at the marina and was engaged in a conversation with an angler and simply did not shut it down quickly enough. Oh, it's his fault.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He knows. He knows it's his own fault. He's like, I didn't shut down the conversation. I know I'm talking to a local angler. and I know that that's dangerous right there. It's like a guy who's like... Have you seen a movie recently? Like that's what you gotta do.
Starting point is 00:19:43 A guy who keeps cheating on his wife, you know? And he's just like, I just needed to shut down that conversation right there. Like I know where it's gonna go when I'm talking to somebody like that. I just should have shut it down. Could have talked about anything else, right? Yeah, I mean, honestly, though,
Starting point is 00:19:58 if I was in his position and I'm even talking to a local angler, I'm just like, I'm running out of there because it's like at any point, I'm not even joking. At any point, the local angler, he is my enemy at that point. He is my, like, my, like, that's the, the scariest thing you can encounter if you're about to have a competition as a local angler. He can ruin you.
Starting point is 00:20:18 He goes, uh, this really hurts. As this lake is special to me and I was really looking forward to the event. That said, the integrity of our sport is paramount. And I have to deal with the consequences. This is a situation that can happen to any, I know, Scott. Thank you, Scott. This is why, hey, this is why I'll be behind you 100%. I want a Scott Martin T-shirt now.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Scott Martin is, is he like a good? We need to look up. Is he like, you know? Yeah, he's good. He's won a bunch of, though we got comments on this story from the people that know about fishing. So he goes, this is a situation that can happen to any angler in the elite field. And in today's world, we have to be vigilant and simply do things differently.
Starting point is 00:21:05 first guy well now the first guy's kind of bad guy he goes solid guy try to find that in the NBA why'd you pick that hey how can you pick that how can he pick that organization sir sir which why'd you pick that league guy replies to him and goes almost any other place then another guy replies and he goes there are lots of them like lebron james for starters and lots of other sports too. Now what would be impressive is to find out that level of integrity in our elected officials, which these days is sorely lacking. Yeah, he's like, hey, let's get off. Let's not attack other sports guys. We love sports guys. It doesn't matter what kind of sports are playing. Let's get together and hate on the politicians. Telling your politician, you could be a, you could stand to be a lot more
Starting point is 00:21:55 like Scott Martin. Honestly, maybe we got it. We think about Scott Martin running for some sort of hot office and maybe he skips past to Congress and the smaller ones and everything and gets maybe we're straight into the Senate or something. And finally, this guy goes, this ruling's just ridiculous. This guy has no control over what someone else says, especially when it's considered normal fishing conversation.
Starting point is 00:22:20 No, if you've been in the game long enough, you know to shut down a conversation with a local angler before it gets too hot and heavy. You can't be minglingling with the anglers. Normal fishing conversation is a, great thing to say. You know what I mean? Let's take a look at some guys, some superstitions these guys have because they are very
Starting point is 00:22:43 superstitious. Red. Riding's on the wall. You know what I mean? Nope. Very superstitious. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that Stevie Wonder song?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, I do. It's a good song. I think. I mean, I don't really like it, but whatever. It's fine. It's fine. I've heard it too many times. My wife plays it all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Uh, this guy goes, what's your stupid super. Oh, I actually got it right. I was getting it right. I was mid getting it right and then stop. This is this right here.
Starting point is 00:23:13 All the flub heads right now are just like, oh my goodness. They're like, oh, like, like sat up on the like front of their chairs. They're like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Like, honey, honey, you know, like quiet, quiet, quiet. Like they're all,
Starting point is 00:23:25 he has to say something crazy. He has to say that you can't, you're not even going to believe what he has to say. There's no way he's going to get this one. This is a, guarantee. Like a team going forward on like fourth and ten or something. It's like,
Starting point is 00:23:40 what's your stupid superstition that you know is a stupid superstition but still perform it? I did it. But I never once felt like I had hold of that sentence the entire time I was saying. But that was impressive. It's a tongue twister. Flubheads in absolute fucking shambles right now. They're probably excited. They like to hear somebody do well sometimes.
Starting point is 00:24:02 too, you know? No, you don't know these guys. No, no, no. The less prepared you are to land a fish, the better chance you have of hook and one. Want to catch a monster? Leave your pliers and net on the other side of the lake and only bring your ultra light rod.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Hmm? So don't prepare. You'll catch a big fish. Oh, I see because these are, yeah, they make sense that they would kind of have a bit a gamblers kind of meant, right? Because it's like so rare oftentimes when you're fishing, probably you're like missing out a lot and they would have to sort of convince themselves like
Starting point is 00:24:37 oh if I do it this remember I did it this way that one time and then I cut that big one you know what I mean it's like I feel like a lot of it's nonsense like it's well probably probably there's real things like the type of bait you use and stuff like that right strength of the line yeah yeah there's probably a lot of like actual stuff can I say that like they're the classically known as like the biggest liars in the world too. Like that is like the fishing guy like fishing guys like synonymous with that I got this giant biggest liars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah. Yeah. I totally forgot. Which is why Scott Martin's special. Scott Martin. That's why he's different. And that's why that's why. Yeah, I would like him to be the next president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:25:25 We got to do a go funds me for his fine. Yeah. It's fine. We should pay his fine. We really should. It's probably like $1,000, which I will not pay. We should pay as fine. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:25:37 When did this happen? Let's look it up. I think it's the honorable thing to do to pay us fine. I don't know when it was. This person, but the reason I brought up the liar thing is this person. Forget your phone or camera? Guaranteed a trophy fish. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Of course. Oh, man. How many times does that happen, sir? Yeah, of course. I forgot my phone. I forgot my phone. Excuse me? It's 2025.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You forgot your phone? And camera. Yeah, but I mean, you know everything. Forgetting your camera, I can understand, but you think there's a phone would be in your front right pocket, most likely. Yeah. I put it on the car when I was getting my tackle box out and left it in the car and then brought the tackle box, which doesn't have a camera in it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But then you're going to get the fish. But then you catch the huge fish. But then run back, grab the camera, I think. We can't do that. How far back is the car? It can't be that. I don't know, but I don't think you, because you could. A lot of these guys I've learned are on boats.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Oh, I see. More of a boat situation. So these guys are, but you got to bring your phone on a fucking boat. Yeah, of course. They aren't fishing off the, I'm thinking, because where I live on the river, by the way, Justin. It's called the Fraser River. It's like a very famous river.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I live by a river too. Wow. The River. The James River. How, how, oh, wow, how. My river smells like mayonnaise most of the time. Mine has, there's a website to track how much, like, e coli is in my river. And it's always red.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Mine doesn't have that sort of stuff. Mine's just, like, it's kind of a more of a normal river. I saw, poop and people will do, they're like, there's signs all along the river bank that say don't touch the water. And then people go on there. people in it. Yeah. And they're not swimming,
Starting point is 00:27:32 but they're like doing the stand up row thing. Yes. And the kayak. And it's like, you're still getting the water on you, dude. Yeah. That water's nasty.
Starting point is 00:27:43 The Sciota River. It smells like poop. Chris's River, probably idyllic. It's not idealic. It's not that nice. Like you're not supposed to swim in it either, honestly.
Starting point is 00:27:52 But it's like a huge, the Fraser River is just massive. And, but I've seen super cool. You know, I've seen, obviously that's where the beaver lives. I see the beaver sometimes.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I know where the beaver lives at my house. No. My wife. Yeah, I know. She has the beaver. I know what you meant. I thought maybe you had an exotic pet. No,
Starting point is 00:28:16 so there's a beaver lives in the river. There's a no pet's house. Believe me. There's a bald eagle, two bald eagles that live like right on the river by my place that fish obviously. But I saw a white sturgeon's well, gigantic fish jump out of the water there.
Starting point is 00:28:29 like seals and stuff. It's pretty cool. But anyways, I see people fish off of the like, there's like a pier there and just off of the side of the river. They'll just like fish in there. And that's the type of fish I'm thinking, fishing I think of, but it's obviously not the most common type of fishing. No, there's these guys that stand. I love this. These, these are the guys I want to be friends with is they pull over on the side of like a 55 mile an hour road with a bridge. and they just fucking stand there and fish off the bridge and I'm like I look at them I'm like you ain't gonna cat well if you do catch anything it's like the longest you'll ever have to reel something up you know what I mean because you're on a bridge yeah yeah yeah yeah that's kind of
Starting point is 00:29:14 wild to see from the side it must be kind of wild seeing like if it's a big fish getting like reeled that high up but I'm just like I would love to like go stand around with those guys and talk it would make me feel like a man. Oh, really? Yes. I talk to the people who are fishing sometimes because I'm just like walking my dog, right? So I'm just like walking by them. And I'll ask them, you know, like, oh, you got anything?
Starting point is 00:29:40 And they'll show me sometimes like their bucket. They're not very big fish that they have usually. I saw so many pictures of people with their fish and like there are a lot of really impressive ones. But a lot of them are just, they fit in a guy's hand. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it depends on where you are, right? some places are going to have way bigger fish.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But yeah, nobody nobody over my place is catching any white sturgeon or anything like that. Well, your guys are going to love this next. We got ourselves a little mean guy. Talk here. Okay. This guy goes on a day I wasn't catching anything.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I hooked into and lost three different fish while taking a piss while standing up in my kayak. Almost landed the last one with my pants down. That goes, either you take an abnormally long time to take a, I love guys like this. Guy that read his comment. A guy who's getting into the weeds on it. Like, well, let's just think about the normal average time for a human piss.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And let's triangulate it with, yeah, they're doing all kind of math on you. Anybody that's doing math on you when you do something is, yeah, is a real horrible reply. You don't want to hang out with this guy. This is a guy that you would never want to hang out with. So he goes, either you take it abnormally long time to take a piss or this is a perfect example of an overblown fisherman story. Lost two and almost got the third one? Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Did you say with your pants down as in by your ankles? I don't normally pull my pants all the way down to put my little worm out. But hey, maybe you need more room, right? But I thought you were standing up in a kayak. Wait, now I'm really lost or hear me out. None of this happened. It's incredibly mean, right? Like that guy was as mean as you could ever be to a guy.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Really picked it apart. Yeah, he's just like, Yeah, I don't, I mean, pulling your pants all the way down and they could be on a boat is pretty funny. That is pretty funny. Around your ankles. I saw a guy doing that at wrestling. I should have told that last night. When I was at wrestling, a guy pulled his pants down past his butt, not all the way down to his ankles, but his whole, like, area was out.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Like, it was down to, like, his thighs. Oh, wow. And I was like, sir, you can't do that. I mean, you can. it's allowed but it's widely known as weird like yeah yeah i would if you're not kind of piss or why not go in a stall thank you justin that's what i was kind of thinking he had his whole butt out and the and like underwear down and everything i saw this guy's whole butt first musky i caught i had to eat it into the boat because my dad forgot the net had him grab the rod and i went and grabbed
Starting point is 00:32:19 it 36 inch tiger of all fish this is 100% accurate and i will not be told otherwise next guy goes I throw a short, shitty first cast. Because if I catch one on the first catch, it'll be my only fish all day. Now, that's a common one, okay? Catch a fish right when you throw the first cast, you ain't going to catch another one all day. Which is the kind of,
Starting point is 00:32:42 I'm like that. With like, I am that kind of superstitious, where it's like, we talk all the time about the lottery guys who are like, oh, man, that role, I'm not buying enough. off that role. That role probably already has all the winter. You know what I mean? So that's what
Starting point is 00:33:00 these guys are up to. This guy goes, I love this. This is a nice guy. I try to clean up litter I find on the water. I believe it brings me good mojo. Yeah, that's nice. I think I would try to do that too if I was out there like maybe I wouldn't go crazy, spend my whole day doing it. But if it was there was litter there, I would try to pick it up. It just looks terrible garbage in like a nice lake or whatever. I mean, I saw a guy litter last year. Glenn was in the car. We were driving down High Street, which is the main Columbus Road. Like, it's that everything spokes off of it.
Starting point is 00:33:37 That's right. High Street? I always thought you would generally take the low road. Well, I do. We do have an intersection here that people like to take a picture of themselves at called high and gay. Yeah, you're telling him. that.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You've told me that that is a fun. That's a good intersection. Yeah. It's a great intersection. So this guy's driving in downtown, like the actual, like where the buildings are and shit, uh, driving by where the courthouse is and we're behind them. And he throws a fast food bag full of stuff out of the window of his car. That's more.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's, listen, it's not good. Like, this is not good. But why were you, why are you saying like, oh, it's by the courthouse? Like, that's not worse than doing. It's not even like it's in a rural area where nobody's going to see you. Like it's such an antisocial thing to do in front of everybody in this like all these people are here and you're just like, I don't get a shit. Yeah, but see, I live over by the river and kind of more of like a rural area myself. And so I just know that like if if people like littered in my area, it would be like, oh my God, it's so serene.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's like they're kind of bound by the like in the city, whatever. I kind of get you city folk. That is how you. you're I this guy goes no bananas won't even eat one if I'm heading out next guy I won't even use banana boat sunscreen okay wait what's wrong with bananas well I look that up why are bananas bad luck on a boat because that's not good I like bananas I've been eating quite a few of them I put them in my smoothie I put them in my smoothie and it also like they they make stickers that say absolutely no bananas allowed and there's even a guy that's
Starting point is 00:35:18 like my friend is like this we usually hide a banana whenever we're on the boat just to fuck with them. And then that reply got a bunch of downvotes and people got insanely mad at the guy. People are like, that's not a fucking joke. And so, that's not fucking funny. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:35:33 So you're not catching that many fish then if you have a banana on the boat. What is the, did you find what the significance? Why are bananas bad luck on a boat as an unusual nautical superstition that began in the 1700s that is still persistent today? When trade ships were sailing from the Caribbean and Spain started to disappear, legend has it that only the curved yellow fruits will be found floating among the wreckages. Seafarers believe that bananas had caused the ship to sink, which led to many rumors back
Starting point is 00:35:59 at dock and throughout the sea. Fishermen also believe bananas are bad look, as well as blame them for not catching fish, mechanical issues, or even bad weather. One reason could be that bananas are naturally sweet and sticky, and they also release ethylene gas, which some believe acts as a natural fish repellent. So fish hates, fishes hate bananas. I suppose. It's a really good superstition to find out that like, I'm going to grab a banana next summer.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. I'm going to stand on the bridge where those guys are fishing. And when a boat goes by, I'm going to throw the banana in the boat. That's what happens. That's insane, man. It's not litter. That's so rude, man. But it's funny.
Starting point is 00:36:46 You know what? you could yeah you know what you could really fuck with them you post pictures of you fishing with like a your but your bait is banana and post those on like the fishing forums or whatever and be like hey like you know fishing for my first time today
Starting point is 00:37:02 you know what you should do Chris? And I caught a monster yeah I caught a monster exactly show the banana bait and then be like this is what I caught with the banana bait and it's like some crazy huge fish like a fucking shark yeah man that would be that's actually get that's like maybe we get bring bananas back to fishing honestly maybe you know what's the guy's
Starting point is 00:37:22 name again what's our favorite scott martin we need scott martin to embrace bananas and start eating them and then it then they'd be back uh it is it is funny you guys since you both do you live somewhere where you can uh do you guys live on both and live in a place where there's fairies and boats and stuff oh yeah i mean Ariel and Charlie just came back on i've never not so much but I'm never on a boat. But why don't Chris, why don't you get on a ferry one day? Okay. Stand by where the guy is driving.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Get as close as you can. You can't really get that close to him. But get as close as you can. No, but you can't. The room is like blocked off, right? You can't get it. Right. I understand.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Stand right out the window of the room. I'm sure there's a window in a room. Yeah, okay. Unpeal a banana and knock on the window and start eating it. See what happened. Yeah, I think he, like he might. I don't know that he would know. If he, he might just think I was being like sexual or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You did aggressively though. Like not sexually. Not sexually. Don't put it down like you're blowing job. Like you're blowing job. Like you're blowing job. Hey honey. All the flood vents thought they'd lost out on this one.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Now they're going crazy. They're like, holy shit. This is way better. I'm so glad there wasn't another. shitty little flub on this episode. I mean, blowing job could be like, but eat it like this. Yeah, no, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Like, don't do it. Because you can eat a banana in essential way and you can eat it in an aggressive, like, sort of confrontational way. I think the peeling's a big part too. The peeling is huge. You snap it. Yeah. Oh, that's great, Justin.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You snap it and have. And it just, you eat it with the stuff with like the, the, the, Yeah, we don't even, you don't even take the skin off, honestly. Yeah, no, you just tear into it. This guy goes, I don't bring my phone. If you can't take a pick of the catch, you're guaranteed to have a nice catch. Also, another liar. Oh, so you're, yeah, Larry the liar.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I literally don't bring my phone. So you just have to take my word for it. Huge fish. Why would you? I caught a jaws. I caught a, what's it called a? I guess it's, I looked it up after, I guess it's called a blue whale. It was like 100 feet, 103 feet or something.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It fought me the whole time, but I was able to, oh, and it was able to get it was really, yeah, it was orderly, let me tell you. It put up a fight. I caught a sturgeon and then I harvested the caviar from it and ate it all. This guy goes, my neighbor had a, well, first of all, the guy goes, when he says, I don't bring my phone, the OP comes back and he shouldn't have said this. He goes, yeah, that wouldn't fly with my GF, LMAO. It's like, then everybody was like, whipsch immediately. Yeah. Well, maybe, hang on, maybe his girlfriend is like a huge fisherman.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And she's like, you need to take a fucking photo of it. I won't believe you. Like, who knows. But he's a no liar. He's probably whipped, though. He's probably who psh, whipsch. Here's a, here's a good. one guys my neighbor had a boat he would call a one fish boat to the point that if any one of us
Starting point is 00:40:52 caught a fish he was adamant about the rest of the day being ruined well we went out and with them five minutes of our very first cast i caught a shark and he was legitimately so mad we didn't even try and stay out there we came right back in lmao one of the funniest days i've ever had growing up holy shit man i ruined a day i mean got a shark ruined day that guy is a real like someone catches something right away and you're just like you're now going to allow your superstition to ruin everyone else's day you're just like okay we're turning around now and leaving like yeah that's like the coolest day you caught a shark yeah also that you're sick yeah cooling is catching a shark listen sharks there can be some pretty small sharks too i just i don't want to i i i i live
Starting point is 00:41:38 i usually get pretty big i lived in the nassau bahamas uh for a while for six months and You swim with the sharks? Yeah, you could go swimming with the sharks. Exactly. And they're like reef sharks. And some of them are like very, very small, like the size of your forearm or whatever. They'll suck you. Not off, but you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:59 They call them like nurse sharks. Weren't they suck on you? Nurse sharks, there's nurse sharks. Yeah, there's ones that don't really have teeth. They have like a suction thing where they'll, yeah. You put your little arm in there. Yeah, they'll suck you. They'll suck you.
Starting point is 00:42:12 There's stingrays there too and stuff like that. Well, those killed. Steve Irwin. I'm not messing around with those. Yeah, it's weird though. The stingrays, I don't know. You just swim with the stingrays too. Like, you can put your hand. Yeah, like, I'd be terrified. It was pretty scary, if I recall. And it didn't seem super organized. Everyone was drunk and stuff. You know, like it didn't seem like I had the organization where you're just like, well, this must be safe because they're saying it's safe. Like, I didn't really trust the guys who are running it, to be honest. Yeah. So. And one person got really hurt. Anyways, yeah, keep going. Are you guys really, are you guys ready to hear some?
Starting point is 00:42:46 some fake conversations. I would love to. Yeah. I went to that bass forum and this guy says fishing critic. I'm a conservation minded person, as I am sure most of us are. I care for each fish and try to release them quickly and safely. Every once in a while, I run into an individual that thinks I am a cruel, heartless person for fishing, even if it's catch and release. They may say things like, how would you like a hook in your cheek ripped from your home and thrown back into?
Starting point is 00:43:16 it. I try to explain fish do not have a complex nerve network and a brain that is complex like us. I've even explained to some people have caught the same fish just a day later with no harm shown to the fish. Okay. Come on, man. No matter what you say, they think you're a horrible person. I wonder what they think of hunters. Have you ever run into this? I would think that they think badly of hunters. I don't know. As bad if not worse. Probably worse, more likely the ones when they because they actually kill the animal and they have a gun like it just the gun makes people uncomfortable you know how do you handle this situation thanks let's get ready for some fake conversations these are okay so good yeah comes from the same people who eat steaks fried
Starting point is 00:43:59 chicken and fish tacos if they don't see how the sausage is made it's fine their hypocrisy is cringeworthy and i remind them of it so i would say that most people who say that it's cruel to fish also think it's cruel to eat meat. I think a lot of the people, if they're like saying it to you and making a point, I think those oftentimes would be vegetarians and people who are practicing what they preach. I think for the most. I don't think there's that many people who are just like, oh my God, how can you fish? And they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll have the halibet, please, like out of some horrible, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:36 like I don't think that that's really happening very often. I think he's just, yes, it serves this person's argument better. I'll have the brand zino because it looks like a fish when you're eating it's like a full-on fish uh this guy goes yeah i love this guy this is my favorite one of my favorite kinds of guy yes i pay no heed to foolish people anyone giving me an opinion that i didn't ask for is considered by me to be a fool so i pull out we walk away considered by me to be a fool Talking like a lord. Yeah, he did, he did.
Starting point is 00:45:14 You, sir, are a fool. That's a me, thanks, Doth. You know, that's a me things kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's good. Here's a Trump guy. I learned this the hard way the past five years or so. I'm finished trying to change people's minds,
Starting point is 00:45:29 no matter how much data is presented. So he's either a Trump guy or a lib guy. I don't actually know which. But he's talking about politics, for sure. Especially saying the past five years. Yeah, specifically the past five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy goes, oh, get ready.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Get ready. Everybody strap in. This is wonderful. This is one of my favorite posts. We've read in a long time. Strap in. Get ready. Jigman says, if that's happening often,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you might check with law enforcement and lots of places it's illegal to harass a fisherman or hunter. Specifically, the law in the book specifically for a fish. fisherman or hunter. Sir! A vegan just came and talked to me.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It made me very mad. Throw them in jail. Getting yelled at and you pull out your fisherman badge. You can't talk to me this way. Actually, I'm fishing. This guy goes, whether it's fish, deer, turkeys, or any other. Somebody comes up behind him and being like, hey, what the fuck are you doing over here, buddy? And then he turns around and the person sees the fishing rod.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And he's like, hey, hey, no problems. No problems. I don't want no trouble. I don't want no trouble with the authorities, man. I'm just going to walk away. Runs. Runs away as fast as he can. As soon as the guy turns back around, he bolts.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. This guy goes, whether it's fish, deer, turkeys, or any other game, I always respond to them the same. I love all of God's creatures, especially with mashed potatoes and gravy. That way you can live rent-free in their heads. Yep. Yep. That's one of my things I strive for.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I want to be living rent-free in a lot of people's heads. As many heads as I can. Yeah, I want them to be like, I want a lot of, I want to be like really upsetting a lot of people and having them sort of be thinking about how much I upset them all the time. I want people to hate me. I truly do. I want to sit around and imagine people hating me. I want to be considered a bad person by most.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And annoying. Hey, listen. bad person but I also definitely want to be as annoying as possible. I want to be annoying and alone. This one says, I encountered it once and it startled me. I was working with troubled boys and after work when the other teachers went home, I took the boys fishing.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I was doing a good thing, but my colleague disagreed. So I asked her how she enjoyed her afternoons and evenings and she said, she canoed. When I asked her how her canoe reached the water, she said by car and I said, ah so have you noticed all the animals that you've smashed on your grill and windshield in the pursuit of pleasure oh that's cool you really did have to go a long way
Starting point is 00:48:19 have you noticed the bugs on your windshield that's a good one though I yeah yeah yeah this guy goes I live in a small Midwest town so there maybe Groveport we don't fucking know. So there thankfully isn't much of that around here. Most people around me hunt and fish or at least support the rights to do it, although with the way the world's going, it's a matter of time until those people and or that mindset make its way here. Been around a few vegans and vegetarians in my life, but only remember one of them being preachy mature. Very, that is a mature you know guy that is always, like that's a guy who definitely says people, eating tasty animals when somebody brings a pita.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You know what I mean? He goes, she got kind of testy with me for eating meat. After listening to her BS for far too long, I pointed down at her feet and said, nice leather boots, dumbass. And that was the end of the conversation. Oh, really? That person didn't want to talk to anymore. This guy goes, people who criticize fishermen as being cruel.
Starting point is 00:49:36 never eat chicken pork or beef again. They're out of touch with reality. Ignore them. Yeah. I mean, I happen to think. It's not, it's not like people can do whatever they want. But yeah, you are being hypocritical if you're like, hey, what the hell is your problem for fishing? And yet you kill.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Well, I guess it's different though. If you're fishing for like sport fishing or whatever and just throwing them back, that is a different thing. Right? That's different. If you're fishing and you're just like putting a hook into, they're trying to say, hey, that's better catch and release. but like, no, I would argue it's better to catch the fish and eat the fish. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Because that's what Tanoo. Then there's a purpose to the, you know, like in my world that it like, yeah, I would say that that's a better thing to do. So yeah, I don't know that this is much of an argument. Well, and it's also, it presupposes that there are a ton of people that eat meat who think fishing is cruel. Yeah. And like I said, it's just.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's just crazy. It's just crazy. Like it's vegetarians who do. It's vegetarians who, who, who, who are. or like saying stuff about that and talking about it. Everyone else, even if you think it's cruel, but you eat fish and you eat meat and stuff, you recognize,
Starting point is 00:50:43 hey, I'm a hypocrite to talk about this. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. I feel like it's like half of vegetarians. Yeah, totally. It's not even, yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So forever ago, going to like hardcore and punk shows, there were a couple of like kind of annoying vegan straight edge guys. And one day to Chinese buffet, we ran into them. and they were just plowing through shrimp. And like we made like they saw us and they were like,
Starting point is 00:51:12 shrimp have no nerves. Shrimp have no feelings. Shrimp can't feel anything. I immediately apologizing for it. Immediately ready for like, okay, so we're going to be eating a lot of shrimp today. If we see anybody that we know, this is what we say. They were ready. But I do think a lot of people like I've definitely met like a lot of pescatarians who are like,
Starting point is 00:51:30 oh, I don't eat meat, but I do eat fish. Yeah, my wife is one. Yeah. But she doesn't also, she lives with a guy that eats meat. Yeah. You know what I mean? So like the only people that give me grief for eating meat are the guys when I go to the butcher shop. And I'm like, I'd like three slices of bacon.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And they're like, that's it? I'm like, yes. Three slices or one chicken breast. And they're always like, what? Like that seems like a waste. And I'm like, well, I'm the only one to fucking eat it. So, you know, I don't eat more than three slices of bacon. I don't even eat bacon.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I love bacon, though. you know yeah well you're eating all the candy in the middle of the night so you probably don't I miss the can I yeah you got rid of it talk about the candy because I'm probably off the candy by the time this comes out that's good I'm glad to hear that that's I'm still on it now I know but I'm glad that you have that as a goal it's not a goal but I'm at some point I got to be like in my opinion I have so many candy bar opinions these days it's crazy crazy. I'd love to just do a podcast about candy bars. No, I don't want to do it. And we're not going to do that. Or you could do with someone else maybe. But Brian, I do like, I think you bring up, you tell me that you're eating like candy bars in the middle of the night. I think you do that on purpose because you know that I'll be like, hey, you can't do that. And then, so I think that when you know you're eating too many candy bars in the middle of night, that's when you bring it up publicly on the podcast. That's my belief. Yeah. Well, I love it. I love that my addiction is.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's like I ate a bunch of candy bars and people are like, Brian, get off the candy bars. Yeah, you've got to get off the candy bars. But yeah, it is funny, but you do have to get off the candy bars. It's such a child thing. Yeah. It's like Halloween. It's like you're living in Halloween. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I love candy bars. Bird says, starts the first I have to say the first line of this classic, true story. This is a bird. His name's bird and he says true story, which means. definitely not. Or it is true and I lie usually. And this is going to be a lie because it's so circuitous. Because wife and I were camping on a lake and met a nice couple camping beside us.
Starting point is 00:53:49 They came over and sat around the fire and we talked. The wife and I were discussing our cow that we were going to butcher once we returned from our trip. Sorry? Yeah. Why are you talking about? Do they say cow? Yeah, cow. They're going to butcher it when they get home.
Starting point is 00:54:05 So they're farmers, I guess, right? They probably have a farm. But like, yeah, do you not, you wouldn't recognize that that would be to normal people who aren't farmers that they don't really want. That's like a. What is the conversation? We're going to go home and butcher a cow. Oh, first we'll cut off this.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah. Like, what is it that you're disgusting? Yeah. Is it your first one? Is it your first one you're doing? Yeah. He goes, why? And he goes, to my surprise, this older gentleman.
Starting point is 00:54:33 and stood up and said he'd rather not discuss anything to do with cruelty to animals. That was to my surprise. An elderly man did not want to hear us talk about butchering animals all night. Because we changed the subject and all went well. He invited us over for breakfast. And as I was standing beside him, he was frying bacon and sausage. A small limb fell from above and landed directly into the frying pan. Lim was full of caterpillars.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I looked at him with an Eastwood grin as he was cussing and said, frying up live caterpillars and bacon grease is cruelty to the next level. So my answer as to how to deal with these types of people with sarcasm. Oh. You don't like that, Chris? You guys don't like sarcasm, I guess? I mean, no, I don't. It's probably you've been owned by it several times.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I mean, I do. I use it. I use sarcasm. I do like it sometimes. but I feel like I feel like this person, yeah, sounds like very annoying. This person sounds super annoying. Like it's like, I love the idea. It's like, this is how you deal with these annoying vegans.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And it's just like all of their things are just like way more annoying. And not real. Like a branch fell off and some caterpillars fell in the baking grease at all. It was servicing his story. It's like it's true in its essence. It's not like, yeah, that was a story he came up with, though, the branch and the caterpillars. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And he could have just said the bacon. Well, we had to get to this, everybody. My wife hates that I'm buying, I'm so addicted to fishing and buying fishing gear. That's a good idea. How much, fishing gear is pretty expensive, right? I get pricey. But I think, because I. But you just need to get the, like, one setup probably.
Starting point is 00:56:29 and then it's less expensive after that. Has a ton of reels and stuff like that. And then lures and he's got a whole thing going on. Yeah. But I did post a few things last night on Blue Sky and a couple people did say like, fishing is like one of the hobbies where people are like, don't go buy the most expensive thing. Because I saw $600 like reels.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And when somebody would post it, people would be like, okay like you could have got one for $40 and done the trick I see so so there's not that much as far as the technology goes maybe you know what I'm saying there is like I said you could buy a super expensive one and maybe you do I think if you've been fishing your whole life yeah I wonder if there's like stronger lines and so you know what I mean if you're fishing for bigger fish and stuff like that that maybe would be more expensive if you want to be like catching marlin and and shit like that that you would need some souped up. I don't know though.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I know nothing about it. But yeah, that would make sense. It's essentially, you know, it's a very simple design that they've been using for a very long time, I feel like. So I do think that, yeah, it wouldn't, it would feel like you could fish or smaller fish with a pretty cheap rod, you know? Well, this guy goes, would she rather you gambled, smoked meth or kept an expensive piece of ass on the sign?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Okay, hang on a second. Why are the options? Those are the choices. You have to pick one. Listen, he's going to be having sex while, you know, with a process with a sex worker while he smokes math or he can't you couple. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, he's probably got some games. You know, he's probably sitting there smoking smoking his math.
Starting point is 00:58:17 He's looking at the fucking TV. Holy shit. Come on. Bulls. Come on. You know? My expensive piece of ass is coming later. that is a thing that guys that we encounter, they love to do that where it's just like,
Starting point is 00:58:33 they're say a bunch of worse stuff where they're just like, oh, your wife is mad that you're doing that. Well, what if you were doing these things that are worse? And it's like, I don't think she wants you to do any of them. Yes. Well, this guy goes, I had an ex that used to view my hobby expenditures with disapproval, despite her having been fully funded through grad school on my then poverty wages. I also used to ask her if she'd rather I take up,
Starting point is 00:58:56 Coke and hose that generally they all fit that generally got the Cabellas gander Mountain Champions Choice and LLB in catalogs dumped softly and gently into my lap which just basically diffused both of us and frequently led to other passions. Listen, if you're not spending way too much money on it though, we've talked about this a lot too. You should have a partner who, you know, like respects the thing that you love to do at the very least. And so it's, yeah, if it's not like you're spending money that you need for your family or whatever, like you're missing bills or something. Yeah, which a lot of the time is the case for the
Starting point is 00:59:35 people that we're dealing with. But like, yeah, like if you're just doing it and then she's just like, oh, you're stupid fishing, then that's, that sucks. That sucks. That sucks. Yeah. I do like the idea that this guy got the Cabela's catalog, which led to sex. Oh, that's what he was saying. Yeah, he said his wife would then hand him. He would say, would you rather. I take up Coke and hose and then his wife would grab the Cabellas, Gander Mountain Champions Choice and LLB in catalogs and put him on his lap. Which would make him super hard. And then he would get hard.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's what he said. It says that would diffuse both of us and frequently led to other passions. I don't know if that, I don't know. I don't take that as, but maybe you're, you're right. I mean, passions is, he's. Yeah, what else would it be? I would think like things that they're interested in or like or something, but you're right i think i guess he does get horny from the magazines and he and then he's like hey honey i've
Starting point is 01:00:29 got a magazine boner you want to hobb on it you should see the six hundred dollar fishing reel uh l l l b is fishing i didn't know i do have some stuff yeah okay this guy goes you should see my wife's nail polish collection i almost spit up because that yeah the hair straighteners is the one that we loved it's like the so it was just one thing someone said one time or he's like ask her how many hair straighter she has which is yeah but yeah that's like that's obviously a classic like and nail polish is not the one to go with either i don't think it's not expensive yeah it's not that expensive and it's like don't think there's that there's not going to be like just makeup maybe if you want to say like check out her makeup or whatever but yeah um this guy goes so does mine she thinks of her friends
Starting point is 01:01:18 husbands who drink in our dicks, then she think fishing isn't so bad. Ha, ha, ha. And finally, this guy goes, did you fish before you got married? If so, then she knew what you were all about beforehand, and she signed on the dotted line anyway. Yep. Damn. She knows what she paid for.
Starting point is 01:01:36 All right. This guy bought this reel. It's called the quantum. And it looks fancy to me. I don't actually know if it's fancy, but I mean, that looks kind of fancy. Right? That's looking pretty fancy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. I mean, it looks nice. It looks nice. Like, when I bought a cheap little reel, like it didn't go that direction even. Like it was going around this way, not this way.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And it looks so nice. It definitely looks very, like, functional. It looks like it's very, it looks like a good reel for sure. Yeah. Because personally, I'm not a big fan.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I have the Smoke S3 and it's decent, but it's nowhere near being the best reel you can get for $170. I wouldn't buy another one. I much prefer their older. Japanese made reels. This guy goes, spending 170 on a quantum is at, this is a fisherman thing. A lot of guys will post their stuff and they'll say how much they pay for it. And then they would get goofed on for getting ripped off, which is, that's like a whole thing that happens.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I go, spending 170 on a quantum is absolutely insane. How people go with anything outside of the big two just doesn't compute in my mind. I mean, you can, but like, why though? And yes, I'm curious why. No, please. I love this. I love the OP's response here. Because I felt like it.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I was making $6,500 a month at the time. 170 was nothing to me. Getting into his personal finance. Your trump changed to me. Saying, telling a random, like, for your monthly income at the time. Because somebody, because somebody hurt your feeling so bad let's be clear i mean the guy got super defensive because
Starting point is 01:03:21 he was like super embarrassed about getting ripped off by this thing he's like he's literally started off exactly the way you know an eight or 10 year old would be because i felt like it because i your pet it's like because like i was making like 6500 which is listen he's making good money you know he was really good money he's making good money at the time there's no doubt about that but i just i also think that's a little, I don't know if that's like, it's a little uncouth or something. I don't know what the form of rule is, but I don't make a month. Yeah, it's a bad look. Yeah, you don't say it. Brian took it. Yeah, you don't say it. It's not a, yeah, it's not a good thing to do. Well, it's just mean. And then also, I don't,
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'm not goofing on what this guy made. He makes good money. It's just a weird like, he's not rich. You know what I mean? He makes very good money. Yeah. But he's acting. He's. He's acting. he's acting like he was in a Rolls-Royce. $170 is mere pennies to me. People who are making that, we got to be like, you know, saving money still at that level,
Starting point is 01:04:26 right? Like that money's just still got to be, yeah, like I, but listen, he's, and 170 is something to everybody. No,
Starting point is 01:04:33 I think he's making a good point. I think if you're looking at it, you're crunching the numbers on that $6,500 per month. We're talking, you know, we're talking about at that point, close to $80,000 a year. And you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:04:46 talking about $170. Who knows what his rent and stuff is, but he's just trying to basically say, this did not affect me. It wasn't something where I needed the money. Yeah. So he's defended, he's defended himself effectively with the $6,500 a month defense, I believe. It feels funny to hear because you don't,
Starting point is 01:05:05 it's not as common now. And I don't know if it's teenagers still do this, but like people don't, that's not like an argument technique for like adults. You know what I mean? that's like an argument. That's like an argument technique for a child, like you said. You say, oh, well, guess how, like here's how much I was made. You say the exact number of how much you're making and then say it doesn't mean anything to me. It's like such a weird. It's a childish thing to do,
Starting point is 01:05:35 which I thought was very good. This guy goes, spending 170 on a much better reel never came to mind. Oh, so basically they're saying, hey, you have not effectively defended yourself because this guy goes and if that was you should have just spent more money like yeah we're not saying that you that you spent money you shouldn't have
Starting point is 01:05:54 we're saying you should have gotten a better reel for that price yeah you spent it poorly yeah you spent the money wrong I bought a crappy reel for $717 170 $170 and uh
Starting point is 01:06:06 didn't mean anything to me though you know uh this guy goes and if it was pocket change why not drop some good money on a good brand oh there we go So now he's saying like, so if you got, listen, now you've told us your finances. You've opened the doors now.
Starting point is 01:06:21 You told us exactly how you're making. How much you're making. Yeah, why not a $500 one? Yeah, let me show you something in the $600 range then. I didn't realize, you know, like I didn't. Thank you for providing your T4. And we will, sorry, maybe that's a Canadian. Have you two here, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah, T4 is what it's called in Canada, you know, your income, basically. And then a guy replies and another guy replies to him and says, that makes it even worse. Like, so he's getting killed. This guy is getting absolutely killed. And he's embarrassed. He's already tried to defend himself with a $6,500 defense. Does he say anything else? Well, no.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And then another guy goes, how's that $170? Looks cheaper than a $40 cast king. So he's gone. He's not, he's now getting beaten in his submission. He's been accused of having a cast king. he's now cowering in the corner of his computer room. The next guy goes, I had to look up the prices online. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Stop. You know the meme stop. He's already dead. Discount tackle has him at 200 right now. I thought maybe O.P. added a one by accident. Hopi, nope, he was right. A $200 Zebco.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Zebcoes are junk, I think. Okay. Uh, here's a guy that has a really interesting modern issue. YouTubers ruining fishing spots. Ooh. Anyone else have YouTubers ruined fishing spots for them? 618 fishing has gotten no trespass signs, but it's on two of my honey holes recently.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Cool guy by his videos, but his monetization of content ruined some of my local fishing places. Okay, so basically he's going and fishing these places are like known to locals. and then it's becoming, it's a popular enough channel that the local government or whatever, somebody, you know, the police, somebody's like, oh, you're not supposed to be fishing there. This guy goes, here's where you'll find out these guys are not on this guy's side. I'm going to tell you that right now. This guy goes, but they aren't local fishing places.
Starting point is 01:08:32 They're private property. If anything, his videos did the owners of favor by alerting them to trespassing. What a dork. while this may suck it is necessary there are instances where someone trespassing ends up getting hurt and despite their actions being illegal successfully suing a property owner 618 should be demonetized simply for making a shitty content did not expect to catch this personal best catches a 40th bofin and waterway that's known to be full of them each one-tenth of a pound heavier than the last so he doesn't like 618 that's like a fishing channel so basically
Starting point is 01:09:10 I see. So these are like big rural properties probably, right? Where there, where there's like a fishing spot on it. And then yeah, the YouTube thing has alerted the owner of the land. Because now more people are fishing. Now more people are going there and it's and then it's become like a big thing. I got to. Now they're tightening it out. Do you call it his honey hole? Yeah, it's honey hole. They do call it their honey hole when they find good fishing. And I was thinking this too. And I, I, I, I, I hate private property in nature, that sort of roped off thing that people do. But like, I wonder if this guy might even stock his pond. You know what I mean? And people are just showing up and fishing it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 This guy goes, FY. I don't know if it's like this in every state, but if it isn't posted, then it isn't trespassing. So O.P was doing nothing illegal before. Now that it's posted, it would be illegal. So yes, the YouTube guy ruined it. So he got some help. And this guy goes, well, it seems unless you own that spot, which it doesn't sound like you do,
Starting point is 01:10:17 then you have no business being there any more than the YouTuber does. I live in Maryland where there are huge numbers of anglers and a comparatively small number of access points. So as far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as a secret spot. Any spot of YouTuber fishes will already have 100 people on it before they publish their video. And then the OP replies and goes, right. difference is I'm not broadcasting it the millions of people so no one knows when I come and go. Yeah, he's, listen, I'm kind of on his side a little bit. I am too.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I am kind of because it's like, yeah, the YouTuber is broadcasting it out to a bunch of other people if it's a popular channel and then it's bringing tons of new people and it sounds like that's what happened. There was no signs and then the YouTuber went there a couple of occasions and then the signs came up afterwards. So it sounds to me like there is a correlation. I'm on this guy's side. Also, there were no problems until, because that's, I, I, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Yeah, it became a problem once the owner knew. The owner didn't care. Yeah, the owner didn't care before the YouTuber did that and made it this busy place. It was just kind of a place that locals could go to and nobody was getting hurt by it. Everybody was fine. And then all of a sudden, this YouTuber does it, brings all these people there. And now it's a hassle and it's a bigger hassle for the homeowner. Now the people can't fish there.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And it's worse for everyone. Well, this guy goes, so because you don't broadcast it, that makes it more legal? Not more legal. It's not about legal, you fucking idiots. Nerds. These guys are nerds. Yeah, it's not about legality. It's about a bunch of fucking people showing up there and making it so that the whole,
Starting point is 01:11:55 the landowner is, you know, aware of it or whatever. He goes, illegal is illegal. No matter whether you share your spot with others, no. And a guy replies and goes, it makes you less likely to get caught. Yes. And then another guy replies and goes, I see. So you advocate breaking the law, but don't monetize it on social media. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:14 In this case, yes, that's what he's advocating for. It's a victimless crime. And he's advocating for that to continue. Yeah. And finally, this guy goes unpopular opinion, but you shouldn't need honeyholes if you're a decent fisherman. Anybody of water is a honey hole if you know what you're doing. Hmm. I mean, some don't have fish at them.
Starting point is 01:12:36 you don't know that if it was Scott Martin he would have caught some fish in that honey hole well no he and if he didn't then he didn't and he wouldn't show and he would be honest about it and he would tell you that he didn't
Starting point is 01:12:50 he wouldn't lie about it let's like a look at a bait thing I had to look this up because when I was young I used to fish yeah well I know you used to bait like two or three times and I used to masturbate too of course
Starting point is 01:13:04 but we always use hot dogs to fish you know what I mean yeah yeah I guess I do know what you mean I I fished a little bit too when I was I don't remember what we used for bait like I lived I grew up in a place called steveston in Richmond you can look it up it's a fishing village it's an actual fishing village and it was like a Japanese fishing village from like the early 1900s and there's you know there's like you can walk out onto the and get fresh fish like at the market every Sunday, like out on the docks and everything like that. And like, um, we definitely used to fish. We would catch and we would catch like shitty stuff though. Never, you know, we were like bowlheads and stuff like that. Like it was, yeah, I never did proper fish. Justin, when you fish, did you
Starting point is 01:13:52 catch proper fit like big size fish? No, they weren't very big. I got it. They were, they were small. Did you ever catch anything like? I literally, like I said earlier, I did catch one fish that one time I went fishing when I was like 10. But that was, was it pretty big? I mean, the guy was, the guy that I was with,
Starting point is 01:14:12 the guy that became a park ranger, uh, definitely made it seem like it was big. But it wasn't like, I wasn't like, you know, too hand holding it up. And you were like a trouble.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And I don't even remember like what. I don't really, I wouldn't know what the, it's like when we were talking about your dad's penis. It's like, I don't know if it was big because I was so small. all. Yeah, I don't think we want to, let's not talk about the dad's being insane.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Let's not make that a concept. It's exactly like that. No, but it is. I understand. When you're really little, everything looks so big to you. So you don't really know if you went back now, would it actually even seem like a big fish at all?
Starting point is 01:14:52 But like, yeah, and I was going to say, I was saying there, Brian was like a troubled teen at the time probably. I wasn't. You weren't? I was like, I wasn't even quiver probably.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Oh, I was so, young. Oh, okay. Because I was thinking if you were... But I think that's one I remember pretty vividly. Yeah, because if you're a teen, I was thinking that he was going to be really like, oh, this is such a big fish. You could be a fisherman. Like they've told him to like, let's try to steer this guy in a good direction. You know, maybe fishing or something. But no, okay. So there's a chance you were a gifted fisherman who caught a big fish. Yeah, I don't think it was big. Like I said, I think he cooked it to make
Starting point is 01:15:29 me feel better. You know what I mean? Like, like he ate it because. I caught it and was like trying to be like, listen, isn't this great? Isn't fishing fun? Mm-hmm. And I... You were like, yeah, this is pretty fun. And then a couple years later, you're like, not as fun as huffing gas, though. Not as fun as starting fights with guys.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Not as fun as starting fights on a gas high. I just never did it again. My parents bought us polls, too, because they were, like, trying to get us into camping. My stepmom, like, really wanted us to like camping, but none of us liked it. Like, we all hated it. It was just the worst. You know what I mean? Because when you went there, I guess you probably couldn't, you didn't have all your friends
Starting point is 01:16:22 and your drugs and you're fighting and stuff like that. Cigarettes and stuff. But even then, like, it was also just like so, like, it was tent camping. Mm-hmm. Which is. Yeah, that sucks. It's horrendous. It's the worst thing to do.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Yeah. Like as recreation. Yeah. Like God. Like even now like at like at 40 like being able to bring cigarettes and other stuff if you wanted to. It still sucks. Yeah. Because you then got to.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I'm not doing that. Yeah. Because then like after you smoke all the cigarettes and you have like the best time, you then have to sleep on the ground in a bag basically. I wake up in a morning and it's like insanely human. it in there because it's basically a Ziploc bag you're sleeping in sucks well listen I don't and I'll take the other side of it I'm I do camp sometimes I don't think it totally sucks I think the people who really like it like my brothers both of them are like really into it it's about like going on a crazy hike and going
Starting point is 01:17:20 to a crazy place yeah like that's what it's about that's really fun and rewarding for them is to like go hike up somewhere get up real high or whatever where they just like have a crazy view and they're just like in this crazy remote place and there's like something really rewarding about that or whatever. I can see the appeal. Yeah. I'd be afraid. I don't want to be that remote. Yeah, it is a little scary. There's like animals around and stuff. And I've told it before I've gone out with my brother and took mushrooms and stuff. And it was pretty scary, definitely. But yeah, it's fun and it's pretty rewarding. And yeah, like I could see the appeal. But I can also totally understand why like Brian would obviously fucking hate it. I put a pair of it.
Starting point is 01:18:02 up of where we would camp. It was called Berkshire campground. Okay. And it looks fine. Look at how many trailers there are there. Like everywhere.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's like stuffed in there. Yeah. It just looks like a kind of a little community like a subdivision almost with a fake little lake there. There's a main road right outside of it too. You know what I mean? It just sucked.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Like I think if we had camped somewhere like, Oh, I'm any now, huh? They didn't have that back then. If we had camp somewhere like you're talking about, if we had, if we had, I don't know, gone to the Grand Canyon or, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We're an adventure. We drove 40 minutes away from home.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Yeah, when I was in school, we went to like, you know, we did great. I've talked about it before. We did like portaging in like grade seven, which is, you know, you canoe and then you carry the canoe over your head. And we would go do proper, like, remote camping and stuff. I'm surrounded by it in Vancouver. Hoover, but it was like, yeah, you would just do that as a kid. Like in school trips and stuff, you would be going to like real like remote camp situations. Yeah. So I kind of, yeah, I think you would, I don't know though, Brian,
Starting point is 01:19:15 now I don't think you would like it. No. You don't have your stuff, man. You need to have your stuff. I love my stuff too. Actually, I'll tell you this. I looked into getting a tent with an air conditioner in it a couple years ago where it was like, okay, if I got all the gear, I get a I can plug in a box fan and an air conditioner and I have kind of a comfortable bed situation. I don't, I would do it maybe then because I do. Like glamping, glamping or whatever. Right. I do like the idea of being away because I'm never away.
Starting point is 01:19:51 You know what? Like I'm always like in a city. Did you just say you're never away? No, I'm saying. You're like, I'm, like, I'm, my nickname. for you as vacation, man. But even when I vacation, I generally go to a city.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Like I'm going to, I'm going to Miami. That's a city. That's not like some kind of like remote camp place. I'm always in a city like 99% of the time. And the few times I've been out in the middle of nowhere, I loved it. When I was up in Humboldt County in California,
Starting point is 01:20:28 I loved that. Yeah. I mean, you complained. lot about the about being out uh uh in alaska i loved alas i didn't complain in alaska come on man uh let's uh let's take a look at i mean i wasn't there you afterwards you just had some like i complain about everything chris yeah that's true and i guess you did have you had the you had the like the plane incident where your penis overheated on the plane you had to rip off your underwear That happens to everybody.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I bought these new ABCs, pants. I bought these new ones that are thicker, right? And forget about it. If it's not freezing cold outside, my crotch is just sweat like crazy. So I have that issue. This guy goes, what are some of your fish and pet peeves
Starting point is 01:21:19 or what do other fishermen do that bothers you? I'll start with a likely unpopular opinion. I don't understand why anglers always call their best fish their personal best and not just best or biggest. The personal unnecessarily bothers me. This guy goes, getting pissing when people don't share location spots. So this guy wants to know everybody's honeyhole. Yeah, he wants everyone to share their honeyhole. Yeah, come on. But then it won't be a honeyhole anymore. I know. The rule of fly fishing. If I'm fly fishing and there's another human being within two miles, that person will inevitably come over and stand directly where I'm backcasting.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I understand I'm a novelty and you want a closer look, but for, I understand I'm a novelty. I'm a novelty. I understand it's interesting to see me at work when I'm fly fishing, but, you know, he goes, but for fuck's sake, you just watch me whip a 5-0 hook through that space the whole time you were walking over there. Why would you stand there? See, that guy who whip a 5-0 hook over there. This guy goes, holiday boat renters that roll right over your lines, freaking amateur hour.
Starting point is 01:22:28 people who can't keep their kids away from me when I'm actively casting. Okay, cool, they're interested. That's fine. But if I'm 50 yards at the least from the nearest human being, human being, why do you have to let them play within 10 yards of my spot? It ruins my trip when I have to spend every cast making sure I don't hook your dumb children while the parents are nowhere to be found. I might have been one of those.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I will say I might have been one of those children at times of my life. But children are children. You can't get mad at children. And how often are you casting? Yeah. Yeah. You can't. You can't get mad.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I mean, listen, it's sometimes I guess if the kids are running up right behind you while you're doing it and they're, you know, but yeah, kids are, if there's kids around, you got to be aware of that. Everyone does, unfortunately. Sorry. Yeah. I don't mind kids ever. I think it's because I have one.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Yeah, I think if you have a kid. But also, I think a lot of. of people who don't have kids also don't mind kids. I don't care if a kid cries. It's like, who gives this shit? They're crying. Let's look at one more thing. This is a cheap video game, $41.20. I guess I should show it to you guys just so. This is good. I mean, this is now we're in Justin's realm. I bet you I've played it. No, you have. Oh, no. Okay. This is okay. It's a, it's like not a video game. I was not expecting that. No. Right. It's $41 and 20 cents. It looks,
Starting point is 01:23:58 like a fishing pole and it vibrates. Okay. So you can set it right. No. It vibrates to simulate reeling and a fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Can you show it again?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Yeah, I can show it. I mean, it does have a shape. Listen, everybody, it does have a shape. I will say that. It's a rod. It's got like a little, like in my opinion, bottom for the pussy, top for the ass. and you guys if you saw this you'd know what i was talking you'll see i'll make it the picture of the
Starting point is 01:24:35 and i apologize for the vulgar language but i didn't late in the episode when all the when people have already heard me say the the dad's penis paradox yeah and also everyone's like at this point everyone's so relaxed that it's like you can sort of say whatever now if you'd say it right in the beginning who yeah so uh so let's look at some reviews here this one is five stars from Angela she says I can't get my husband to put it down he likes he likes taking it in the restroom with him he loves the game okay so he might be putting in his ass he's crapping he might be putting a crap fish he might he loves taking it he loves he loves to take it he's taking it into the washroom locking the door
Starting point is 01:25:28 Is she trying to make a joke? Because it really sounds like she's saying that he, like does something sexual with it. Like maybe vibe. I think he does that vibe if you guys. I really feel like she loves the game. He loves playing fishing. Our old guest, Stefan, heck.
Starting point is 01:25:46 He, of course, he used to use the vibration from the controller in aid of his masturbation. And I just wonder if this guy is not doing the same thing, where he's realized that like, he's like oh my god it this is my honey got it for me you know what i mean if i i just tell her i love this thing so much i think he's crapping though which is you know you don't want to be jerking off while you're crapping yeah yeah of course you don't yeah chris acting you're like oh that's a weird thing to say no of course you don't i mean you don't you're going to be
Starting point is 01:26:23 peeing while you crap as well right yeah at the beginning okay so you're saying that once once you're done peeing you could jerk off why you crap anyway this person goes you could I'm saying scientifically it could happen it's possible and I don't think anybody does it I would never there's got to be some people who do some people do it I'm sure they like the smell of the poop this person goes one This person says, One star is supreme disappointment. My seven-year-old son's obsessed with fishing.
Starting point is 01:27:01 He reads about it, goes fishing at every opportunity and loves any fishing game we can find. Based on reviews, I thought this would be a hit. We'll never know. This piece of garbage came with two corroded leaking batteries. We replace them and the items still does not work. Don't waste your time or money. What makes this even worse is that we wrapped it as a gift for, Santa at a neighborhood party.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Now we think Santa gives kids junk. Lovely. Oh, lovely. Oh, lovely. You've ruined Christmas for, uh, for my real lad. You've ruined Santa. Santa is ruined forever. And my son thinks Santa's a fucking chump now.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Yeah. Because you're shitty ass fucking. It does look like a toy. It looks more like a children's toy when you look at it. It doesn't like a toy. Like it does look like something you put in a stocking. Yeah. maybe it like i guess you could give it to a um uh like a fisherman or whatever but i picture you give it
Starting point is 01:27:57 to your husband who's a fisherman i mean this looks like a child's toy in all seriousness yeah it looks like the kind of crap like your grandma would give you when you were really little for christmas like my grandma didn't know anything about what we would want so she would just buy us like jeans that didn't fit and stuff like that and uh that that avon uh colone that is in a bottle shaped like a car? She'd buy you Janko jeans that were too small so they just look like normal jeans. Ryan wore Janko's big time.
Starting point is 01:28:35 But this time she was buying me rustlers. Oh, Rostlers. Which are so embarrassing where I grew up. People are like, wait, you're fucking cowboy? And little do they know. Now you kind of are. When I was young, I didn't want to be a cowboy. Now Brian does want to be a cowboy.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And Justin, you tell me your opinion on this. He wears cowboy formal. When he goes formal, he goes cowboy formal. Cowboy formal. Yeah. Okay. And do you think he should wear the cowboy hat or not wear the cowboy hat? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I mean, I don't think you have to wear the cowboy hat. Oh, damn. Maybe I could wear a cowboy's hat. Yeah, that's funny, I guess. But I really think if you saw the outfit, you would think, you know, I don't. Well, what is cowboy formal? It's like boots and jeans and like a denim shirt. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yeah. Or yeah, I have like a couple cowboy shirts. He has like the bowl of tie. I don't have the bolot tie. I don't have the bowelot tie. I have pearl button cowboy shirts that I buy when I'm on vacation. I usually see them on vacation and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:29:36 oh, I got to get a new cowboy shirt so that if I go off. Like I'm going out to eat next week. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to a jazz. Hats are expensive too. I know. I'm going to a jazz club.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah. Don't wear the hat to the jazz club. I would say, but wear it to dinner before. for, I would say. I'm taking my wonderful wife out to dinner and then to a jazz club. That's real. That is sweet. Now, when he said that he doesn't have a bolot tie, it's because he meant he has a lot of them. He has a lot of different ones that he could pick from. But yeah, so I'll be wearing like a button up, pearl button shirt, and then whichever one of my hats matches it. But it's a baseball cap, which I don't think is like, I think you got it. Like, I'm, I'm a baseball
Starting point is 01:30:18 cap guy myself. I love it. I wear baseball caps as well, but I just think in that situation, like me, myself, I go no hat. You want me to look like a goof? You want me to look like a goof? Well, I can't go no hat. It's going to be freezing cold. Yeah. And you have, and then, yeah, so that's why I think you should go with a formal kind of hat, though. And I'm not wearing a cowboy hat. They're uncomfortable. That's my thought process because you're a cowboy formal and you should go to the formal hat. It would work fast. They're uncomfortable. I'm sorry. And finally. Find yourself uncomfortable. It's called shopping. They don't make a comfortable. comfortable ones.
Starting point is 01:30:51 They're hard. Yeah, you're right. I have tried on a cowboy at like a real one. They are super uncomfortable. That is true. It's like when I was wearing a fedora
Starting point is 01:31:02 for like a few years. And the derby. When I was wearing the derby. You could do the derby. No. The derby was more uncomfortable than the cowboy had. The fedora,
Starting point is 01:31:11 if I had to go back, I'd go fedora. Those are nice. Yeah, fedora would work almost like a cowboy kind of fedora. You know what I mean? Like a fedora of a fedora.
Starting point is 01:31:20 it's got a cowboy flavor to it. I'm going to find you a cowboy for a fadora cowboy. The fadora cowboy. He went down, calling you the fatorra. This guy goes, this is a question from Cora.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Do catch and release fishing practices teach fish to stop biting suspicious looking food? I don't know how you'd get this answer. as you interviewed a fish, but this guy goes, uh, oh wait, he says logic and observation Trump's political affiliation is his job.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You know, how you can have a job on Quora? That's his job. That's his own. Not in the slightest. Fishing pressure does affect what baits of fish will bite, but not over a lifetime. Sure,
Starting point is 01:32:11 older fish are more wary of predators, of which catch and release anglers are considered such. But they'll still bite things that they have, that they've been caught on before. this is such a weird paragraph now he goes i've caught the same fish multiple times on the same bait there's one fish that i caught two three times a year for three years straight until i stopped fishing that lake i caught it on probably three or four different bates in different area that sounds like this fish likes you yeah the fish is trying to like reach out to you and some of the fish is
Starting point is 01:32:41 do you have like somebody in your life who died recently i'm telling you if i caught this fish that many times i would bring in a close aquarium with me to the lake. I'd be like, yeah, you want to come in there? Is that you want to come and move in? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:58 I mean, honestly, like, that seems maybe the fish has like distinct markings or whatever, but yeah, that would put my alarm bells. Like, I would,
Starting point is 01:33:08 they would be going off a little bit if I was catching it that many times. I'm thinking like, how do you know it's the same fish? Other than I'm like, the only thing I can think is like, oh, because it's like full of holes. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:33:17 yeah, yeah. That's what I was thinking, Justin. it's like maybe he somehow damaged the fish sometime when he got like he fought the fish to reel it in yeah you think he caught it every like after a while he would catch it and be like ah not you again yeah oh come on harold he's given it he's given it a name for it by that he's given it a name for sure he goes uh the reason i knew it was on the same fish is that it had two distinct markings one on the top of its head and a spot near its tail during the spot
Starting point is 01:33:49 I've caught the same bass three times in about 20 minutes on the same bait. I didn't do it because it was fun, but rather I wanted to see if it would bite again and it did. I didn't do it because it was fun. I actually made a video of it where I show hooking it twice. The bottom line is a fish's brain is incredibly small. It doesn't remember seeing something like that for very long. So there's your answer.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Damn. This is why it's so easy for us, fishermen. We got these big brains and they got the tiny little brain. I love that line too, because who would know? You know what I mean? Like, the brain thing is so funny because it's like, I guess like a scientist could tell you that. Oh, yeah, fish are dumb. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Fish are dumb. I don't want to be, like, brilliant. I don't want to be disrespectful to fish in any way, but I think fish have been known to be stupid. I'm sure they're stupid, but, you know. Birds as well, right? There's got to be some smart fish. There's got to be some smart ones. there's some smart birds as well, right?
Starting point is 01:34:51 There's like bird brain and it's like, those birds are so stupid, but then there's really smart smart birds. Like crows. Yeah, crows are smart as hell. Ravens are super smart as well. I mean, there's like, whales are smart.
Starting point is 01:35:04 They're saying dolphins are talking to us. Buddy, you know who's real smart? Wolves. Something happened out in my way where the wolves were bringing in the traps. They were like fishing. They were like left out in the thing and they were finding a way to drag them out onto the lay,
Starting point is 01:35:19 like are on. onto the shore so they could get them. It was like the first time that animals or like that wolves had used tools or whatever. So they're like getting smarter and I mean, we're dead. We're fine. All right. Well, Justin, tell people where to find you. Oh, you can find me a Twitch.tv slash HC Justin.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I'm also 80 Justin on YouTube and TikTok and Instagram and all that, all that great stuff. Oh, we should get some of those. I just started recently doing those. Justin is again, just to reiterate, he's like a real Twitch streamer, but not in like the bad way. Just in that he actually knows how in video games. And yeah, I've been doing it since 2011. Wow. It's been a minute.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Yeah. That's a lot of time. Just because I was curious, I went and looked. I own five fishing games on Steam. Oh, yeah? Yeah. There was that fishing game where it put a human face on a fish and it would swim around on Sega Saturn. I don't know if you guys have ever heard that. Justin, what I'm going to do is when
Starting point is 01:36:22 this comes out, I'll try to remember. I'll send you a note. But yeah, maybe if you wanted to, you could go live and do some fishing. Do a little fishing. Yeah. That's good. That's good. I like that. All right, we'll see y'all next week. Goodbye. Bye.

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