Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 163 - Deep Guys with Tom Sexton

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

This week on Guys we had one of our best friends Tom Sexton from The Trillbillies on to talk about deep guys, are kids on their phone too much. I talked about what my dream adult life was. What do aliens and pets think of us? There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201    

guys a podcast about guys i'm brian i have my deep thinking friend chris here hi chris hi chris hi brian how are you thought about doing that thought about doing that but you make fun of me every time i go how hello oh but i make fun of you i mean it would be appropriate for this one i make fun of you when you just do it for some reason when you just decide hey i'm just going to like do a completely different voice to i don't make funny you. It just catches me off guard. I'm going NPR. I sometimes go NPR mode. Yeah, but it would have been definitely appropriate. I was expecting you to do and you kind of did it. You like sort of half committed to it. It definitely wasn't your normal voice. You were, you sounded a little bit more thoughtful for sure. Well, I did because we are talking about something that I came up with this on vacation last time. Oh,

really? So, oh God, when did you? That's weird. You don't usually go on vacation. That's, You're taking it for you, man. Yeah, you deserve it, brother. Thank you. I thought about this down in Florida. I don't know, even know why it came up, but our guest this week is from the Trillbillies, Tom Sexton, and just our good buddy. How's it going, Tom? Well, we know, man.

What's that? So when I was on vacation, I was like, what is some type of guy that people probably won't expect? And also, I like to do like high concept. thing like I loved doing milk guys you think milk guys is a concept the day I launched guys I didn't think there was a possibility that we'd do milk guys like yeah it didn't even come in my head like you can only dream of something like that when when I was starting this humble podcast I never thought I would get to the heights where I would be doing milk guys I understand what you're saying that you're like it seems like a less obvious kind of guy or when we did tool guys and

tool guys two weeks in a row tool the band you know you were really that that is some high concept stuff yeah that was high concept and you were really proud of yourself for that well i have a pillow behind me that says tool guys tool guys fart guys smart guys because that's that was a four week run that i was very proud of and somebody said it to me into the p a box but so i was like what is one that isn't like a thing that people think about well these people think a lot but what is one that people think about wouldn't think I would do it. And then I started thinking like evil guys was one I thought of, which I still might do, but I don't know what that is yet. You know what I mean? That I don't know what it is, right? Like, because I, it would probably be closer to satanic type

things than it would be like guys that like Hitler. You can't do that. Yeah, that's not such a funny episode, not guys who are just Nazis online. That's, uh, that's not as funny. But yeah, satanic you know i love you know i got a lot of love for satanic guys that got satanists live next door to me and they're very very kind and very polite so he does have next door satan neighbors satanic gas can also be deep guys too if you yeah i would say i would say i would say not to be disrespectful to my neighbors but i would say these are more surface level satanic guys there's not yeah they're just they got salt of the earth satanus yeah definitely so i i i decided do we do deep guys and then you know when you decide to do something like this you also have to

figure out what that is so i just started looking around you know i went to r slash deep thoughts and looked at that i always think of i think a lot maybe other people are like this too i think of deep thoughts the the comedy jack handy yeah whenever i hear that i always think of jack handy who i i discovered later on in my life probably a lot most people know this is a real guy yeah it wasn't a character. It was like a real guy who was a writer for Saturday Night Live. What a guy. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, what, what would a deep guy be? So I went and looked and, and the first place I'm going to take us is Facebook. Because they, there's a lot of guys on Facebook, man. And listen, I'm going to say this is the beginning of episode. These are the

dumbest guys we've ever covered. We've never covered more stupid men. Like they are just, listen, listen, I've heard you say that. It's probably my sixth or seventh appearance on this program. And I think I've heard you say that five of those seven so I'm beyond excited to see where this goes these guys are so insanely stupid and and they're the best kind of stupid because they think they're smart they think they're extremely smart yeah that's kind of the whole thing right is like when you're a deep guy you think you're doing like deeper thought than other people so you think that you're like yeah you're being more thoughtful than other people are and usually people who are actually smart. Yeah, they, I don't know, they don't really make a point of like talking about it or,

you know, making a big deal of it. No, and it's just everybody's been trapped at a party with a guy that's having a deep thought. You know what I mean? Where he's like, I don't really care about the music at the party. I like the conversation. And he's sit down and talk to him and he's just, his head is completely empty. Is it, is it possibly filled up with a little bit of cocaine, though? Well, that weed, weed causes it too. Like crazy. Yeah. And I mean, hey, I wouldn't know.

As everybody knows, I no longer, I no longer smoke that nasty stuff, that devil's lettuce. I got the clear head now. And, you know, I feel like, hey, it's made me a little bit more thoughtful, actually. So I'm interested to hear some of these posts and how I might relate to them. Well, Tristan here on Facebook, this is a good start here for us. being a deep thinker is both a gift and a burden i love a guy that start that is the that is a lot of these guys they're like you know it's my cross to bear yeah don't i know it bro being the smartest guy in every room you know what i mean like he goes yeah while surface level chatter feels

exhausting to us because while most people swim in the shallows of daily life deep thinkers are diving for pearls on the ocean floor of thought Um, so show me the lie. I mean, sorry, oh, you want to have like small talk. I, yeah, like, I'm not really into small talk. The weather. Yeah, no, I want to talk about the weather systems, actually. The weather. What happens after you die is what I'm trying to talk about, okay? The weather. Yeah. I don't care about the weather. Yeah, I mean, I suppose like, it is nice to have like, I'm not a deep thinker. or deep conversational guy at all. I think you guys listening to the podcast can tell that at this point. But like, yeah, it's nice to like talk about serious stuff sometimes.

But yeah, the idea of the guys who are always talking about that. It's just the most exhausting thing. Well, he's not done. He goes, but that deck comes with a cost. My mind becomes a playground of what ifs. I might sit. I might sit in a cafe and think about what I said 10 years ago and how it revealed something about me. It's not punishment.

It's analysis. I think that's called deep insecurity. Like I think that's like, yeah, that's like I don't think you have to be a deep thinker to be experiencing that. I think that's insecurity for sure. Yeah, I think you're beset by something called anxiety for instance. Yeah, you might have a generalized anxiety disorder. Just like the rest of us, it turns out. Overthinking is worrying about the future while deep thinking is questioning reality itself.

The same mind that can see patterns and everything can also create illusions that don't exist. Wait a second. I immediately withdraw my diagnosis. I think this guy needs to go to Vienna. Seeing patterns and everything, I don't think is like considered to be. Isn't that considered sometimes to be? morning sign for something more sinister going on a time. I think that that might be sometimes associated with certain types of mental illness,

perhaps. Or like a racism generally. Like that a lot of guys will do that too. You know what I mean? Where it's like, you know, I'm seeing behind all of the, you know what I mean? Like a lot of times guys that end up being like racist guys will be, will say like, I'm seeing patterns in fucking everything that you're not seeing like conspiracists. You know what I mean?

Like that is really what this what a deep thinker I think when they say I see patterns and everything is that they're a conspiracy theorist and everybody in their life says you're a conspiracy theorist. This is fucking weird. And then they're like you're not thinking deep enough. That's the issue. You're not thinking deep enough. You can die for some pearls.

Pearl diver that I am. Yeah. You can die for some pearls of deep thought on the bottom of the thought ocean. Yeah, I, I, yeah, seeing the patterns is it's like, um, yeah, it's like your, what's the word that I'm looking for? Um, you're like scared of everything or not scared of everything, but yeah, I, yeah, I don't even know. I can't, listen, I'm, I'm just not, I'm on the, I'm in the shallows here. I can't, I can't even get into this. We're not even equipped to discuss.

Yeah, I feel worried that I'm going to like, you know, I'm unable to even get on these guys level at all. Well, and it's the thought, it's the type of guy. I'll tell you what type of. Paranoid. Parent, you're very paranoid. Either paranoid or, or everything's a distraction from something. Right? Like, so every single thing that happens, they're like, I can't believe you're just paying attention to that when, you know, it's a distraction from.

And they never know what it's a distraction from. like it's a pure distraction. Epstein's a pure distraction. And it's like, from what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we bombed Iran, but you're not seeing what's really going on. Yeah, you're not seeing the real deal here. It's like, well, people are being killed. Innocent people are being killed. Yeah, yeah, that's a distraction.

That's what you should be thinking about. They're like, I don't give that a second thought. Yeah. Because building seven. He goes, anything, he goes,

uh, a mind that can see patterns and everything can also create illusions that don't exist because when you think deeply, you can connect anything to anything. Okay. Okay. That sounds almost self-aware. You can connect anything to anything. But then he goes, that's it, folks.

And if you ever had beef with my dad, then shame on you. I'll never talk or think of you normally. Okay. So he was also having problem with maybe some people in his life. people had issues with his dad's dad I didn't I didn't expect the dad part of the end there I didn't know that the crux of his thing seems to be that his dad was very hated or something I think we need to hear more about that

here's another one and this is how Facebook deep thinkers are we're going to hit the Reddit deep thinkers in a few minutes this is the Facebook deep thinker and this is to the T this person says the shit that I think about and how I process that is process it is so deep. A few minutes in one conversation is not enough to get an appreciation of the full context of my thoughts. I really wish I wasn't a deep thinker at a time.

I just don't know how to turn it off. It's not a time to be a deep thinker. My favorite of the Facebook genre is the guy that posts like a Tommy Shelby mean. Yeah. And says like, I'm the black sheep of the family, but I'm the one they always call when shit goes down. Like that's like the dumb guy version of the Facebook deep thinker guy. No, a lot of these guys are like, a lot of the stuff I read on Facebook was people that

very clearly had alienated every friend in their life. And in their mind, they were like, because of all my deep thinking. Yeah, that's why. It's not because every time we see you at a cash register, it's with your arms around your girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, confusing deep thinking for just being like run of the mill annoying. Yeah, a leash.

Exactly. A hundred percent because I saw that so many fucking times. Like people were just like, yeah, sure, I'm lonely. But that's because I'm always thinking all the time. You know, I need to be lonely. And this one gets up. The thing about deep thinking is thinking by, by like definition is meant to happen inside your head. I don't think that's what's alienating people.

It's your deep talking. You're right. Deep talking is the definite problem. That's the problem. Yeah, you can deep think all day long and nobody will be bothered at all. I promise. This one gets a reply from somebody that says being a deep thinker is a gift. It protects one against the illusions some think of as reality.

It keeps one grounded in one's authentic self and therein freedom, liberation exists. conscious choices. Being awakened is a fine line between a blessing and a curse. Psychologists, etc., get paid. The rest of us are rich in spirit. So this person needs to maybe see a psychologist, but they also believe that they are rich in spirit, so they don't really need to see anybody.

And then there's a reply that just says, better for us to be deep and critical thinkers than it is to be empty-headed. Sometimes, yeah. I mean, I'd rather be empty-headed. I'm going to tell you the truth. Like, empty-headed is the choice for me if I get to pick. You're an ignorance-is-blest kind of guy.

Oh, God, is it ever? Yeah, like, I just know that there are guys right now walking around that barely even know what's it going on in a world. And I'm just like, why do I know everything that's going on? You know what I mean? Like, you're like, why do I have to know about war? And all this stuff. And then there's these guys just walking around that are like, this war, it's not even real.

Yeah. It's a mirage, man. Yeah, you'll hear them talk. And it is like where they're like, I'm just not really into politics or whatever. Like I don't even follow it. I don't even know what you're even talking about. But that does seem more like a choice. Like you don't have to know about that stuff.

You can just like shut yourself off from all that information, right? I can't. No, I don't, I think a lot. I think there are people who do. Like, I think in order to, I hate saying like be smart, but I think you got to read stuff. And I think a lot of these people as we listen to them probably don't read anything at all. Yeah. And they just talk and they don't like, they just write their, this is from our slash deep thoughts.

Oh, Chris, you're going to love this. The newest generation of kids are going to be unlike ever seen seen before. Okay. Yeah. new parents all throughout history loved capturing the quote first or cute moments done by their children but i think it's becoming a potentially dangerous problem okay hang on i'm i'm interested in this because i have been capturing firsts of my son and and i did not know that i was in danger so i my ears have perked up here you're fucked dude fuck and and listen this next line chris

but i think it's becoming a potentially dangerous problem now that we're all becoming increasingly digital. I'm concerned particularly about particularly my generation because instead of just capturing the moment and keeping them only for immediate community to see, we upload them for billions of people to see. In this age, every creator is bound to get their 15 seconds of fame. That's what keeps them posting.

They chase the likes and followers and commodify their children. Child actors have strict hourly contracts for a reason. I think moderation should be. It talks of Corey Haim and Feldman Yeah, that was totally fine When we did what we were doing before Yeah, we were giving 13 year olds of cocaine

socially abusing them And this is also It reminds you of like that kind of thing Where these like the nostalgia guys I fucking saw a guy yesterday On the R slash nostalgia And he's like, I really wish I could be five years old again And I was like, what kind of a brain is that?

That's incredible to be. It's like you hear people saying like, I want to go back to me in 15 or whatever, like 18. But like, but like going back to five like where you're just like going down the slide and stuff. Yeah, he's like I wouldn't have any problems and it would be all about my cartoons. Yeah. And I was like, oh, it's an adult who loves cartoon. Fair enough. Yeah.

There's some cool adult cartoons. No. So I guess this poster talking. about how I guess there's like some truth to the fact of these people who are putting their kids on YouTube and their whole life that like that particular type of person who's just like minority though minority definitely of course but like who have a YouTube channel where it's like my family and now their kids grow up and their entire life was in front of this huge audience and like I don't post any you know I don't post any photos of Charlie or whatever and I don't like but

that's only it's not because I'm scared of something happening it's because I just like want to have my like private life to myself. And I think that that's like kind of normal. But like anyways, I have to hear more about what this person is it. Then he goes side note. This is where he goes off the rails. You know,

it's like, oh yeah. This guy's actually like something. He goes, I think a new category for classroom politics emerges where the children who have gotten a certain amount of likes become known as the kid from that one video. So what this guy thinks is he's extrapolated the family vlogging stuff. to being everybody's trying to get their vlog off the ground.

And listen, there are a lot of people trying to get their family vlog off the ground. Nobody is saying that that doesn't exist. But like, it's not everybody. It's not, it's such a small amount of people. Most people have like a job at like a place or whatever.

You know what he sounds like a failed family vlogger. Yeah. It didn't work for me. So why does it work for the red? of these assholes. Yeah, he sounds a little sour graves that he wasn't able to exploit his children. His children proved to be unexploitable. Yeah, they were uninterested.

You're boring-ass fucking kids, man. They don't even play. Yeah. So he's trying to say that, like, kids, the, like, social, like, it's going to become more, it's going to be, like, the most popular kids at school are going to be because their parents got, incredible amounts of likes with photos of them. Yeah, no, I don't see that being it. I don't think so.

The first reply goes, every 10 years, there'll be people telling you that there's something terribly wrong with the children. There never was and there isn't now. Okay. I'm going to disagree with there never was and there isn't now. There's always problems. See, the kids are fine. There are things they'll be better at than us and things they'll be worse at.

And that's fine. If it was importantly the next, if it was important, the next generational course. correct, as we know, that has happened. Well, I kind of agree with them in spirit until they got to the course correction part. They started bad and ended bad, but in the middle, there was some good stuff. Yeah, there was a little bit of like, yeah, that the kids are all right, I think.

I've talked about this with Brian that like, you know, I think that, I think kids are like maybe even have gotten a little bit nicer perhaps like overall. And but I think that, yeah, and I do think that there's probably a little bit of an issue with like less physical interaction and more people spending their time online and that's just kind of the way the world is. But yeah, I don't, I'm not sure that we have a good track record and course correction really. I don't either. I don't think course correction ever happens. You know, otherwise we're not where we are. Yeah. All it turns into is like people talking about generations, which I hate to. And this guy goes, I see what you're saying, but this feels truly different. Parenting barely

exist now. All the things our children are learning are coming from an iPad and tongue tongue tongue tongue sahur, which I don't know what that is. Not sure of that. It's not for you to know. And sometimes Charlie watches an iPad. I will watch Miss Rachel to learn things like language things and stuff like that. And support Hamas, for example. Oh, yeah. That goes on too. But we brainwash. I mean, we do a lot of, I don't know. I don't know if I'm in the minority, but like, yeah, we we do a lot of normal kid stuff that doesn't involve technology. In fact, we try to keep them away from screens. And I think that there are a lot of people that are like that as well.

I'm going to tell you something that's going to make you guys really nervous right now. Teens, early 20s already just clog up the dance floor taking selfies and videos of the couple people dancing. They're so self-conscious that most won't dance. I stopped hitting the town because the energy is dead. Yeah, that's why. I love a common thread that runs through all these guys is every one of these guys thinks they're the most happening guy that's ever been you know.

Yeah, like I said, yeah, the energy became bad. It's like, or you became an old out-of-dutch fucking person. It's all you are that are the dumb pieces of shit, you know, but me. At least this guy says 90s clubbing, especially 93 to 97. Yeah. be on foot. No, 93 to 97 was the big time for clubbing. This guy turned 18 in 1993. Yeah, it's like the big days for clubbing are generally between when you become of age and then like the next three to four years. That's usually what it is for people, I feel like. This guy goes,

my first thought about every time club culture is dead and I was born too late. I missed out on all the quality stuff, music, fashion, et cetera. My friends and I usually make. the most of everything, but that's if we can even get enough people together. I mean, they actually, like, fashion is so cyclical that, like, fashion is such a horrible example because, like, the same fashions have come back. And now they come back faster. Yeah, definitely. Guys are wearing Ed Hardy shirts again. Yeah, totally, totally. Why not learn to social dance? That's what I've done. And my friends and I regularly go to dance, uh, regularly go to dance, salsa, swing, ballroom. Sometimes we go club dancing and sometimes a ball. And sometimes a ball.

It's the best. Okay, that's cool. So now this has devolved into guys talking about dancing. Hey, good for that person, though. They're right. Like, hey, man, there's plenty of opportunities to go out and have fun and dance with your friends of all ages. If you, like, yeah, if you expand your sort of like taste in music or that type of dancing you like. Yeah.

Well, this guy goes, in terms of dance energy. Why are we talking about dancing, by the way? Is this not a deep guy's episode? What's happened here? It's a dancing guy. Yeah, you've taken us off track. here, Brian. This guy goes, I think it's deeply damaging to a child that parents are occupying themselves

with snapping picks and videos of the sweetest moments rather than just sharing them with the kid, expressing their joy and appreciation and real words and interaction. Yes, kids can have fun with a few depictions strewn all over their first years. But if the main expression of how their parents value them is how well or not this warrants of picture or video, I think their self-perception could be really warped. and they get a reply, yes, how you worded that last part is perfect. That's what I was trying to say from the OPE. And then this guy goes.

I take so many photos of Charlie. I can't help it. I just want to like capture and Ariel and I like share them back and forth with each other at the end of the day and stuff. So maybe that person's right. But I don't know. I have a lot of fun with my son doing a lot of things. And I don't think it detracts from it.

If you know, we go out to the playground or we're playing for an hour and 15 minutes and I take like four photos when he's like you know in like a cute like on the slide or something like that yeah this is the last one of this thread thank god I'm really I'm really I'm really over this one well this person goes I was homesick in bed the other day and rewatched some of the wonder ears I hadn't really done this since I was eight and was home sick in bed if you haven't seen it or watched it in a while it might be good to rewatch it I was shocked to find nearly every episode produced tears. Not because I grew up then. I grew up in the 90s, but because childhood in America had looked the same way for nearly a century. The woods,

the bikes, the neighborhood game. Family real time. See, this is just turning to nostalgia guys. Drinking from the hose. This is all the exact same shit, man. It's literally called the Wonder Years. It's like a nostalgia show, you know? Like, that's what it is. Yeah. Fine. We'll go to the next one. This is this, this, this thread is called the world don't feel like the world anymore. Do you guys realize the world is not the world anymore? A.I.'s taking place. It's taking place. A.I.'s taking place. Technology innovations are dominating. World's become fast pace. World is losing peace and reality. Semi right. Yes. But also. Yeah. This guy goes, world doesn't feel like the world anymore because everything got sped up and filtered through screens.

I walk outside and half the time people are staring at phones instead of noticing anything real. I have noticed that as well. So true. I have noticed that as well. I don't know if Tom, I kind of get in trouble for saying this, but sometimes I'll watch something like the Walking Dead TV show and it's like, oh, imagine this is a zombie apocalypse. Well, yeah, just go down to your local shopping ball. I love the idea that people are going outside and not noticing like trees.

Yeah, I don't totally disagree with this person. I mean, it's just been overset. It's like you don't need to say this. Everybody knows this. This is like, yeah, there are, the world has become sped up. Like it is, everything has moves a lot faster now and there's like positive and negative aspects of it. But like even the world doesn't feel like the world anymore.

Maybe it's a weird way to say it. But it's like, I do get it that it's like it doesn't feel like we're interacting with material things as much anymore, right? it doesn't feel like you're going out and doing that stuff as much anymore. This guy goes, woke up really thinking about this today. And he's a top 1% commenter on deep thoughts. Okay. So this guy is,

this guy is like in the absolute deepest caverns of the ocean, hitting the rarest pearls. In the Mariana trench of thought. I woke up really thinking about this today. It's like nobody has or even wants any agency over their lives anymore. It's not just AI. It's like, being led into darkness and everyone is like, whatever.

I realize everyone's tired, but do we really all just want to be NPCs that go along to get along? Now, this is a lonely man for sure. Yeah. Because the last part. NPCs like, well, the go along to get along is a key to he never cooperates with anything. Yeah.

Oh yeah. It's a tail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then he gets a reply. It's on purpose. We all have the eternal. fire in us and they try to repress it by any means necessary. Repressing the life's fire in all of us,

we're too blunted, sad, hopeless, etc. to do anything or think or self-reflect about anything. The perfect world for them is an automated world filled with robot-like organic beings called, quote, humans, unquote. Every time I hear about the spiritual warfare, I was laughing and denying it, but to be honest, the more time goes and the older I get, the more and more I do believe this is spiritual warfare. The change must be done on an individual level with, quote, little actions and realization. It won't be big, all-out revolution. It's going to be a calm, silent change in every one of us, which will lead to a generalized change for a greater good. Well, now the Democrats are on there posting his deep guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. We don't do anything. We're not planning to do anything about anything. We just have to start thinking. We have to really, you know. Nobody's doing anything anymore. and frankly we need to keep doing that.

This guy goes, I'm an older guy. So I remember a time when people had a bit more bite and they actually cared about things. Now it's like everyone's just being dragged through life. And if they choose to get upset about something, it's usually something trivial that doesn't matter. Dude, I hate to get off my lawn guys like that. I hate old guys. I just ain't. And I'm an old guy.

I hate old guys. They like pop into a thread. And they're like, actually, I'm old. old. And do you remember when people, and when he says bite, I mean, people are still saying the same stuff to each other, basically. There's like three words that you can't say, that you shouldn't say anymore. And then the rest is like still there. There's still whatever bite is. I don't even know what that fucking means. Not, not to be myself a deep guy, but like, I think when people I complain about the world getting too fast, what they're really complaining about is the world is stuck. Yes. Like,

nothing's happening, but at the same time, everything, like, kind of feels like, you know what I mean? Well, this guy. Sorry, sorry for that deep guy. He ends with, I'm not much of a. Yeah, so true, man. So true. He ends with, I'm not much of a spiritual person, but it does seem like the psychic energy has left the masses. But the people at the top still seem to have tons of it.

And then he gets a reply, this is the most deep, this is a good deep guy reply, I promise. I'm not a very spiritual person either. either. I'm more of a mathematical, spiritual person. Oh. So you like, you listen to the band tool and such? You listen to the band tool and read the Bible. You listen to the band tool. Okay. And sometimes you're like, I don't think that really happened when you're reading the Bible. He's like, I didn't, I don't, you know. I've got, I've got questions. I'm skeptical about this arc is what I'm,

I love, I love, I love Bible smart guys because like, you know, that are like, oh, this is, you know, they have that like sort of rabid atheist gods for dummies kind of vibe to it. And like they just don't understand that like, like, like people way smarter than they ever thought about being have been like, you know, impelled and put on like broken on the wheel and shit like that for this stuff. And he goes, but I do believe the essence that his life in us all is way deeper than we could ever imagine. We're all little miracles and that miracle can be mathematics for some and spiritual for others. I don't understand how he gets into mathematics or whatever, but he does. I don't believe in the Bible, but I do believe in the good preaching of Jesus Christ or whatever you want to call him.

Jesus guys. I'm not a Christian. I'm a follower of Christ. You don't believe in the Bible. Isn't the Bible the whole thing kind of about Jesus? He did say Jesus Christ or whatever you want to call him. Oh, okay. So he's more of like, you know, I believe in a higher power, but yeah, I don't believe in like some of these stories. They don't believe in a little man. Well, he does believe in a little man in the sky. But the guy does math. The man in the sky does some math. Yeah, yeah. The hallmark of the dumb guy is like he has to simultaneously be constantly above at all. but like kind of also have like a like I was talking to a friend of the show Steve Slackowski for I got on here and said we're doing deep guys and we were talking about like pop-tomism of the guys that like you know they'll try to like say that something that's just

for mass consumption or whatever has the same artistic value or whatever that kind of thing it's like they're always doing that sort of dance where it's like they got to be above it all but then at the times they'll like slum it if it's like a like they think it's like that's like a novel stance you know and I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the perfect example of that is the modern, like, wrestling fan that watches it and has to explain to everybody. Like, no, I'm watching this like on an intellectual level. I'm not watching this.

Like, you may be entertained by this, but I'm looking at the story from the left perspective. Yeah. And it always, it's always like, it is. It's always like, I'm, listen, I know this is stupid, but it's actually smart if you really think about it. And that's not how I approach it. Yeah, because it's. It's like it's stupid. It's just stupid, stupid.

And you can accept that or whatever. But yeah, when you're just like, no, no, there's like a little bit more going on here. Like I'm, I'm sort of like on a different layer of this. And it's because you're embarrassed of liking it. It's the same thing with like a lot of the MCU movies, right? It's like you're kind of embarrassed that you're seeing these big, big movies or you're kind of embarrassed. Like I'm embarrassed about reading the news. about fucking doomsday every day.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's embarrassing, yeah. Because it makes you look like an idiot. You're like, they're going to put all the guys in one movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is idiotic. It's not smart. It's not going to be like some, like, thinker of a movie.

It's just going to be like, I got to see Spider-Man with fucking, you know, Magneto. Isn't that neat? You know what I mean? But you think about, like, when you think about, like, Thanos and sort of like what it really means and how that like relates to humanity and stuff like that's the deep guy. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the deep guy. You'll see like wrestling is the perfect place. Reality TV is another place where you'll see the deep guy really make their bones. Like I'm watching real housewives, but I'm not watching it the same way that these idiots watch it. I'm watching it because I know it's fake. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like it's all so scripted and stuff, but it's like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'm watching, hey, I watch real housewives the smart way, unlike everybody else. And that is like a deep guy. That's deep guys love to, like Tom said, it's like they pick a low culture thing that is so base. Like wrestling is the most base thing in the world. Two guys get mad at each other and they fight each other. There's no way to intellectualize that. You know what I mean?

Well, I would say like it depends on which promotion you're watching. I think that there is like something to be said for your higher quality stuff. But yeah, definitely when you're like when you're watching something where a guy's wrestling with his hands in his pocket. So there's like. Yes. I agree. Well,

he's not done. He goes, Jesus Christ or whatever you want to call him. I still take it with a grain of salt. But those. I take Jesus with a grain of salt. I love how this guy thinks he's smarter than like three billion people. You know what I mean?

He wants to say he believes. believes in Jesus. Just be a Christian if you want to be a Christian, dude. Yeah. He wants to be Christian. Yeah. There's a lot of people who are Christians and you can find acceptance believing in that in this world still for sure. They want to do a normal thing, but find a like a hyper specific lane for that. Exactly. That's why you see like a lot of these people like converting to orthodox or like, uh, you know, and I've even had thoughts like this before, like going to like the friends meeting or stuff. And not that there's anything wrong with that, but like kind of making at a point like well actually i'm a quaker now you know that type of thing yeah yeah yeah oh you see he goes he

goes i still take it with a grain of salt but there's something to it all religions want the human to remember we are the essence of infinity we are the we are the sons and all of the oceans and they want us to repress this by creating a cycle of never ending ego chase that can't be satisfied in an endless cycle of acquiring that ties us to an endless mission to fill a void that can't be filled with earthly goods. That's my five cent opinion, though. That's also Jesusus. It's your Christian, man.

Yeah. But then the guy replied, this guy replies, makes sense. Makes sense. It seems like we're being herded and farmed for our essence. No wonder people look like zombies. Well, hey, he's speaking my language now. He's speaking.

Now I'm starting to get what he's saying, actually. he gets the reply from the mathematics guy. He goes, maybe not for our essence itself, but to suppress it the best they can. So we obey more and are looking for what doesn't matter more to try and fill a bottomless pit that can't really be satisfied to occupied looking in the wrong direction. That is another hallmark of the deep guy, right? Is that you're not looking at the right stuff. That's the fucking problem.

That was like when, when I was hanging out with Katie's older brother and he was just like everything I said, he was just like, it doesn't even matter. Like the world's flat. It doesn't matter. And like none of what you care about matters. You know what I mean? And then he'd be like, I'd be like, well, that's like, are you Christian? Like he'd be like, I'm not Christian.

I'm not religious. I'm Christian. It's, it's kind of crazy for him to like have this holier than now attitude just because he is correct about the earth. You know, it doesn't mean right. about everything, man. I remember when the first time he said the world was flat, because I've told the story before, like, I was like, okay, like, I just gave up on, like, having any sort of a conversation

with him. And then he sent me a link to what could only be considered a sovereign citizen's manifesto that, like, some of it was in all caps. Some of it didn't have any. That means it's meant to be emphasized. The stuff that's in all caps is you're supposed to say it more. out. You're talking, I'm talking page after page of all caps and like stuff about maritime law. And he looks at me like, I'm fucking stupid. And I'm reading this and I'm like, I don't even know what this is.

Like I get and I'm stupid because I don't understand this kind of. Yeah, yeah. They'll do. A lot of that happens. I do feel like where it's like with people like that like sovereign citizens, flat earthers and stuff where they like send you this just complete gobbledygoo. It's just nonsensical shit. And then you're like, I don't even know what this is about. And they're like, well, of course you don't. Of course you can't wrap your head around. But it's not because it's smart. It's because it's fucking nonsense, you know.

The guy goes, our perception of time is changing. As everything continues to be more instant and our attention spans are shortening, this causes us to not retain information as well and adds to the feeling that everything is happening so quickly. He's right. But then he goes, we went from a world where things felt tangible and human to a reality that's mostly pixels algorithms and 15 second clips. Everything's being optimized for a screen.

It's honestly exhausting to keep up with. We're basically the last generation to remember what it was like before the world became a giant hyper-connected machine. In a lot of ways, the old version of it is really gone. So he's sat and then this guy goes, true as fuck. True as fuck. Yeah, true as fuck. Like I like, my favorite thing is nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. And then the guy replies, it was like, God, you're really on to something.

But yeah, this part, I just think as well, though, like, it's not necessarily, maybe in, like, big cities and stuff like that. And in our world, like in, but I think there are definitely places where the old world still exists, you know, like where people are still living in, like, even, even just around where I am, if you go to a small town, which is what we hope to do is we want to move them by a place in a smaller place, like on Vancouver Island or whatever. And when we go to places like that, it doesn't feel this. People are doing much different things. People are out hiking all the time. People are like going to, you know, they're gathering in places. And like it's just, it's just still happening for sure. I also have the belief that if you, I get what you're saying,

but that if you live with the city, you are all, you're basically in the city. You're constantly having to brush up against humanity all the time. You know what I mean? Like, like that, like my in-laws probably haven't talked to a person outside. of the chicken coop. Yeah. And fucking years.

Yeah. And they're, and they're, and they're some of the most normal, well-adjusted people that you know is what you're saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I am running up against, I'm around people all day. Like as soon as I walk out the door, there's people and I have to adjust my stuff for people. So I think there is something to be said about like, you can still live in kind of a tangible world, but there are a lot of people who go to work, they get off work,

they go through a drive-through, get their food and then go home and eat it. Yeah, no, it's true. You know, anywhere they never talk to anybody. Yeah, like I live in Vancouver, but I have my little neighborhood and our parks around here, and there's like a dog park that we go to on the river and the like little places I go to to eat that's like family owned or whatever. And I go in and see the guy, I know you got any dumplings today and we have a conversation

or whatever. And you have that like sense of community that's not based in anything to do with. Yeah, I think that it's easier in a smaller. place and there is a balance to be had too you don't want to live in a place well maybe some people do but i don't want to live in a place it's so small where you're not yeah brushing up against you have no neighbors for miles yeah where you're not interacting with anybody ever and you're just living in the woods i think that that you're like disconnected then from real you're trading like urban uh sort of like uh ostracization for rural like something i was talking to a friend of mine the

other day. And he works for a, like a place that makes loans for people that want to buy like property and houses that could be used for farm purposes. Like they have to fit certain bills. And he said one thing that they're doing is with the rise of like the popularity of like Yellowstone and shows like that, they're creating these loan products called like starter ranch or like ranch or like whatever and like they're selling guys like a really big backyard but making them think that they're like john dutton from yellowstone or something at all like 300,000 acres and people are attracted to that notion and what they're just doing is they're just like oh i'm fed up with the the hustle and bustle of suburban indianapolis that's time for me to get out there and get back

to nature yeah into suburbs basically too you know yeah i don't yeah i want to be like i want to be in a place it's maybe has 10,000 people in it or whatever, like that size of a town where, yeah, where I'm not going to feel like I'm a nature person getting away or whatever, but things are a little slower in places like that. It's just a little bit slower and there's more space. There's not a lot of white spots. Yeah, there's not as many white spots. You've got to go to Naino to get to the closest white spot if you're in one of those small towns.

And I just went to white spot for breakfast this morning. I had a little gnat tardy breakfast, actually. I'll say this. I'll also say this. You move there, you get to listen to try that in a small town. Oh, yeah. Like that becomes your song. What's in the Nats Hardy Breakfast?

The Nats Hardy Breakfast is going to be two pancakes, four pieces of bacon, it's going to be home-style potatoes and two eggs. If you added the gravy and biscuit on top of that, you'd have Don's belly buster of Wattsburg, Kentucky. Really? Yeah, we don't do biscuits and gravy. isn't a big a big thing around here it's my i mean you can get it but it's not like yeah it's not a salt work kind of yeah yeah but that's yeah that's it's a pretty standard hearty breakfast

but it's right down the street from me and i grew up on white spot brian disrespectfully came to white spot and got no sauce on the burger and then he's like oh it's just not not it's just a decent burger and it's like well yeah the whole fucking thing is the triple oh sauce that's the literally the whole thing that makes it a good burger let's check like another deep thinker. This is another very common thing. This guy goes, some people are quiet because they're empty. Some are quiet because they feel too much.

Yeah. See, I don't mind these people. This is what I was talking about. Do your deep thinking within. That's totally fine, you know? He goes, I think there's a difference between not having anything to say and choosing not to say everything you feel, which is nice. Then this guy goes, when you have so many deep, complex thoughts, many of them contradicting

each other. It takes time to be able to say them in a way that makes sense. I see. So you're, are you're the type of person who's like, you're having a conversation with them and there's like huge massive pauses where you're like, hey, is everything okay? And then they're just like, no, hang on. I'm, I'm going to respond. I'm just like, you know, I'm just, I'm measuring my response. Oh, Chris, that is a nightmare guy for me where there's a silence. Yeah. It has to come after everything where they're like the Elon Musk telling that joke you know that video of him trying to tell that joke about like two economists or whatever yeah and it's like it takes like eight minutes to get through the joke and then they they're like yeah they're like well yeah because you just

you're responding in a reactive way where you're just responding like without any sort of thought whatsoever versus I am measuring my response and it's like but yeah man I got I got to do stuff I got to go places and do i got a job and stuff can you tell me what you are going to say please here's an annoying guy he goes yeah and saying a lot of thoughts can make you look inconsistent people don't take you seriously because too many complex thoughts needs a lot of entanglement so what you're saying is that's why they don't take you seriously yeah they don't take you seriously because you're constantly contradicting yourself it sounds like our guy drama rants who's like ranting about shit and then he'll say something that directly flies in the face of the of the point he

just made it. I didn't even stop to think that maybe drama rants is just a deep thinker and that time he's got a lot of entanglement. In my opinion, every ranter is a deep guy. You have to be a deep guy to rant. It's impossible

not to because you have to think that what you have to say is super important and that you don't care what anybody else has to say about it. You know what I mean? Like, Yeah.

That's the thing. And he goes, it takes time to just process and show it in edible information to people we try to connect with. So edible. And then this guy replies, he goes, that's called cognitive dissonance. And then they get to reply in this person because some people are quiet because other people don't listen to them when they talk. Oh, that's a real sad. Yeah, it gets I'll just stop talking altogether. Well, I can sympathize with that normally.

I once had a guy tell me that he watched that movie, What Dreams May Come with Robin Williams. Yeah. And he just talked to me for two hours about how he thinks that's what heaven is, just whatever your idea of heaven is. And it brought him to tears. Like he moved himself to tears talking about this movie. And I just had to be like, well, you know, you can't roll it out, can I?

Yeah. You should have been like, you should have been like, you know what? I really like Patch Adams. Mrs. Delfire was his father. Oh, Mrs. Delfire, you know that was Robin Williams in the costume. Good morning, Vietnam. Have you ever seen that one? Oh, ooh.

I love a Robin Williams impression that's just, oh, oh, oh, oh. But a lot of times these guys will get fixated on like a movie or something, and they sort of make it the centerpiece of their, like, worldview. and then that, yeah. Labowski. Yeah. Well, hey, there's not, let's not get too harsh on people.

Sometimes a movie can really speak to a 17 year old kid. This person goes, I agree, feeling empty is a completely different thing because it happens when someone is hurt or drained emotionally or just tired of carrying things alone. But there's another kind of quiet,

which is full of deep, beautiful emotions that cannot be expressed in words at all. And such feelings are very intense and Pure gets a reply and goes, I really like that distinction. Sometimes silence is numbness and sometimes it's self-control because the feelings are too big to put into casual words. I think a lot of deep people get mistaken for distant

when they're actually just processing everything. So these guys, again, just it's, it is an antisocial behavior sort of thing that is like, they're deeply antisocial and then also kind of like, they want you to know their ideas. You know what I mean? It goes, well, it's our fault as humans are depleting each other of many emotions.

With time, we become emotionless. We become empty. Those who feel too much mostly stay silent because they feel like finding empty shallow souls all around. So, yeah. That's bad. And some of us are quiet because it's too damn boring to bother to interact with people. It's too boring. they're boring losers uh this is this is a question a life shape it's not a question no

you like that those are the kind of people who sorry those are the kind of people who are like yes sports ball okay yeah yeah you know like oh the tribal uh you know the tribalism of sports ball yeah The proxy for war. Yeah, excuse me if I'm not getting totally invested in these people who are making millions and care nothing about me. Oh, you're on the team, are you? Oh, your team? Yeah, I definitely, yeah, I can think of people like that for sure. They care more about a ball or a puck than what's going on in a real world.

Well, this guy says, this is a new thought, a life shaped by restraint and discipline can sometimes feel less vivid or complete than one lived through spontaneity and impulse. I often encounter the idea that those who live with restraint, who impose limits on their desires or actions, and the name of discipline, foresight, or responsibility. Are we talking straight edge here? I think we're talking no fap. No fap straight edge.

These guys are not whacking off. These guys are no fab, straight edge. These guys are talking no fab, straight edge. Yeah. Jesse Farrar and our group chat sent us. an interesting TikTok about this actually yesterday. It was a guy talking about how it's... K-pop.

How K-pop, it's like, how are you supposed to not jack off when you got these K-pop singers who are like, the music is so catchy, it gets stuck in your head. And then you're thinking about these K-pop babes all the time. And you're supposed to not jack off. And the best part about this video, Tom and everybody else, was that he was doing it with his holiday and name tag on. He was at work.

Jesse just said this on break. Jesse sent this video saying, hey, this is a pretty cool video. He goes, I often, oh, he goes,

you may end up living lives that are stable, but less fully experienced. In contrast, people who act more freely or impulsively, even at personal risk, often seem to engage. with life in a more immediate or expansive way. This raises a broader philosophical question.

Is restraint necessary for living a meaningful life? Or can it sometimes prevent a person from living fully? Is there a tension between self-discipline and a richness of lived experience? So now we got a thinker. This is a deep thinking jack-off king. This guy is a deep thinker who's like, but it's okay that I'm constantly jacking off. Yeah, yeah, he can't have an easy. He just jacks the devil.

out of. Yeah, he's constantly masturbating and he's just like, does this, I notice that most people who are always masturbating are seen as dumb, but like, is it actually smarter to be masturbating all the time? First guy goes, these guys are think, I'm telling you, these are deep guys. This guy goes, unrestrained impulse gives you intensity. Restraint gives you direction. Without impulse, life can feel sterile, without restraint and can feel chaotic. The meaningful life probably isn't about choosing one. It's about knowing when to let each take the wheel. Freedom isn't just doing whatever you want.

Sometimes it's choosing what's worth weight, wanting in the first place, which is jacking off. Yeah, it's basically like you've got to find a happy medium here. It's like you got to stop jacking off at work. But when you're at home and you're chilling or whatever, you can jack off if you're horny. That's what that guy's saying. And I appreciate that perspective for sure. I like those guys extrapolated out to politics and say, I'm not left or right, you know, it's like, none of these guys are left or right. Yeah. And then O.P. responds and goes, how do you go about it? And he goes, well, well, I tend to sometimes I'll go dry, but a lot of the time I'll use lubricants. When I have more time to myself, I use lubricants. It's nice. It's a nice treat for yourself. Yeah. I, I'm.

I don't, by the way. I just want to make that clear. Everybody dry jacks. I don't think anybody doesn't dry jacks. Yeah, come on. And then no disrespect to you if you're listening and you do, you do lube or up or whatever. But I think that, yeah, in this day and age, it's, I think you just got to be going dry. Yeah.

I made the mistake using shampoo once. And I've been dry ever since. Yeah. That'll, that'll change. It got me up real quick. Most definitely. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like when you're six, it's like the, it's like doing six. Right? It's like when you're 16 when you're 16 you're like oh I want to fucking We've talked about this jacket with lotion and and really go crazy on myself Yeah, and when you get to be like 40 you're like I just you know I just want to do it I just pull on it for a bit And that's it and yeah we did I love that idea when you're younger being like I'm going to be doing so many 69 like when I get older. It's going to be constant.

I really believe that. I believed it would be like my number one sex thing I did. Mike, I believed, I believed, I believe like after I had sex for the first time with my, you know, the first girl I read sex with. Yeah. I believe like, all right, now it's time to take it up to the next level. And that's 69. Yeah. Basically, I was thinking, you know, sex.

sexual intercourse is like 68. Now let's take it up to the next. It's the best example of like the difference between, you know, as you're a teenager, what you think is going to happen and then you become an adult and you're like, I used to, oh, God. When I was like 13, 14 years old, I would like dream, like, not dream, like actually sit around and be like, oh, I can't wait until I'm an adult. and I can go home and I can call phone sex and jack off on the phone.

You can not get any trouble? Yeah, phone sex. Definitely. A disposable income to call the party lines. That's an even younger one. You're right. That's like before you're even thinking about 6090 where you're just like, holy shit, man.

The big issue is going to be like finding time after work and with all of my like stuff to do all of the phone sex at all. on you. You know, I'll pay my electric bill, but I'll throw a little bit of money to the side for my phone sex bill. Yeah, of course. Yeah. God, I used to think, I used to think, my vision of my adult life was to live in these apartments that were like down the street from where I grew up. And I would go home every day after my job at a jewelry store for some reason. You were going to work at a jewelry store? I don't know even why I was going to work at a jewelry store. But I think, Were you into jewelry? No. I never had jewelry. I know several people that have achieved your challenge.

Living in an apartment, working at jewelry store. A lot of a long jack in my hell out of. But yeah, I was going to work at International Diamond and Gold. Oh, you knew the jewelry store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew the exact store. I was going to work at the exact jewelry store, the International Diamond and Gold. Columbus Diamond District. Like, you know, the Columbus.

Did you just think that because jewelry is like really expensive that it was like kind of a good job or? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's where you'll get the money. I got you. I used to just have in my mind that and nobody lived with me. I think the owner of the jewelry store gets most of the money. I agree. I agree. But nobody lived with me at the time and in my dream and I would just get off work and vividly would see a recliner and a TV and a phone and like a little table by the door where I dropped my key.

on the thing when I come in the house and I'd sit down to my chair and I'd get right down to the phone sex. That's so good. And I love you. You're dreaming of being single because if you weren't at that age, you're like you don't even want to be having sex because it's like, if you have a partner or a wife, she's going to be like, Johnny, get off that phone. You can't be having phone sex. She's just going to get in the way. When and where I can have phone sets.

Then I'm having to hide off of my work break and do my phone sex. And the only other thing I remember is I could smoke in the house. Oh yeah. That was, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the dream. That was a huge thing. We used to go over to Damon, Damon Schroeder, very legendary Canadian comedian. We would go over to his place and just smoke inside.

Just a bunch of good guys smoking inside. It was like a, yeah. That was kind of your dream a little bit. But I remember that too when I was younger thinking of like, yeah, I got to be smoking inside when I get older for sure. Not thinking about how disgusting that would make your home smell all the time. I just don't want to get up and walk outside. And I remember going over to Mark's house.

Sorry, I just picture Brian after he comes from phone sex and just lighting up a cigarette in his recliner. Watch it would have. I want on TV. Nobody tell me I can't. No. I'll have all the cable channels too. Like I can watch Showtime, you know. Yeah.

Yeah, the dream. The absolute dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is from our deep thoughts and this guy goes, the aliens watching us right now from outer space. Let's think we're insane. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, look at the state of us.

The world's slowly crawling toward climate change induced and extinction level event. and we're bickering about whose politician is the most insane. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Those two things are connected. You can't act like, hey, well, they've got these climate change things. And meanwhile, we're worried about who's in office.

But that does affect the climate change. Yeah, that's a horse before the cart situation. And he goes, we've got bigger fish to fry. They could just hang back and wait for us to destroy ourselves and then boom, boom, free planet. I'd ignore us to. Boom, boom, boom, free planet. Free planet. They're just waiting in the cut.

Aliens are watching us and they're like, wait until you hear what these guys think the aliens are seeing. It's fantastic. If you accept the fact that in essentially millions of planets that exist, there must be intelligent life out there. It's a mathematical certainty. Okay. I'm going to disagree with it. It's a mathematical certainty. I don't know that you can prove it with math.

I'm not a math guy, but I don't know that you can prove it with math. Because then there's a chance. Someone's aware of us and they're happy to leave us be. So, but yeah, you can't prove it with math or it would be proven. Yeah, but maybe it has been, right? That's the whole thing. They say it has been proven, but it's being kept from us, right? Like a lot of people think that aliens have come here and already.

And they probably came and checked it out and they're just like, God, we'll just wait in the cup for a bit while they destroy the shit. These people are crazy. They go back to them. These guys are crazy, man. The aliens are, like, we're assuming the aliens are very normal or something. They're a normal society and they see us and they're like, these motherfuckers. They're like, oh my God, these guys are into the Kardashians. They're making one famous.

This is not. Two things we have to keep these guys away from. One is aliens and the other is any sort of nominally Eastern meditation tradition. Right. It just can't be, it's, those two things can't be trusted in these hands. Yeah. No, well, the first guy goes, if there's intelligent alien life that is capable of creating ships that can travel millions of light years, and there's a very small chance that we're anything beyond ants to them.

We do the same thing when we create gods. We assume they're anything like us. Okay. Then this guy goes, so much this. So much this. He goes, I've been saying this for years. But human-centric egos can't accept it. You've been saying for years to people that aliens think of us like ants?

Hey, you know what? I've been saying this for years, but human-centric egos can't accept that we aren't the apex predator or the universe in a scenario where aliens are the ones traveling here first. We're the prey. He says that or you're editorialized. No, he says, we're the prey at the end. He says it's straight up.

And then a guy responds and goes, I don't even think we'd be prey per se. Why even bother us? We have access to the infinite cosmos. Their entire planet's made up of precious. metals and water. There's not much here for them. We are the prey. The guy who said we are the prey, he's one of my favorite kind of guys, and that is the movie reality guys who have watched all these movies, and then that's like how the reality

has been formed, that they're like, yeah, they're going to come enslave us and Mars attacks and different things. Mars attacks being the one. I like it that you choose Mars attacks. There's like very serious movies about aliens. coming here and enslaving us. But Mars attacks is like a comedy. Mars attacks is the first one that came to mind. Yeah. This guy replies and goes,

maybe they need our natural resources because building interstellar technology requires raw materials. How would you know that? That's possible. It's possible. Yeah. It's possible, I guess,

in the way that every single thing is possible. And again, I want to be, I want to be very clear. This guy thing, so the guy where, looking at right now thinks that they would rather go to a different planet to get their precious metals as though the aliens are like I got to get some gold.

You know, cost effective, frankly. But what I want, yeah, like to build certain machines or whatever, but what are those, what are those things that they have to build? If they've already made it over here to get the stuff. Yeah. Like what is it? Maybe they need to build more of the spaceships or something. I don't know.

I mean, this is all just like hypothetical stuff. Why do we assume that the aliens are advanced too? They could be a bunch of broke asses out in the cosmos somewhere. Yeah, exactly. Dumb as hell. Could be just straight up. All of them could be kind of like working in a jewelry store, jacking off to phone sex level. No bitch wife at home to tell them not to.

Oh, my God. My wife is always on my tits about how much phone sex I'm having. It's fucking insane. It's expensive, man. It's expensive to do, you know. Yeah. That was the thing about phone sex. I remember, it was very expensive.

Because I would call it. And then my parents would be like, who called and spent $70 on the phone sex? So you would do phone sex with like a real person or whatever? I thought when I was young, I did it like a couple times. But I always hung up real fast because, you know, I'd be jacking off. It'd be done. You'd be watching the clock. Talking to somebody.

Yeah. Like I'm talking to an actual person. Yeah. I'm going to finish fast. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking like 13 or 14 years old. It wasn't like, like, by the time I was like 16, I was like, I can just jack off to like my imagination.

You know what I mean? Like, I didn't need it. But there was a period of my life where like when I was little, I was like the most fucking cool thing you could do is that. You know what I mean? I picture Brian on the phone sex like and can I suck on them? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of times it was like, I'm sucking your titties.

I'm 14 years old. I don't know what to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, I did, I did, I did, I got on the phone sex in the summer of 97 pretty heavily. Same summer. I remember. That was the height of clubbing. That was the height of clubbing.

Yeah, it was the height of clubbing. For me, it was the Tiger Woods Renaissance. And so, uh, I remember running up like a crazy bill. And in my like 13 year old mind or whatever I was at the time, I was like, I've got to intercept that bill before my mom sees it. And I thought that if you just didn't get the paper bill that you just didn't have to pay the phone bill. Yeah, yeah. So she gets like a $600 bill in like three months.

Like what the? Yeah, because the bill was crazy every time. Hey, who called Costa Rica? Because it's always like framed like that. They're like, who called Costa Rica? And I'm like, oh, I'll fucking know. Maybe somebody came over and did it while we were out. you never fucking know

maybe somebody maybe somebody came over to do it because their fucking wife was always on their acts about it at home so they had to break into houses plus it like secondhand marlbrose in there

well I mentioned it did already smell like marbles in his place probably the phone sex burglar is a great character yeah this guy goes there are single asteroids

that have more gold on them than our entire planet has on it. Planets made entirely of diamonds. There's planets made entirely of diamonds? God damn it. Why aren't we trying to go there? A planet made of diamonds is such a funny thing to believe

because our perception of what is rare is based entirely on being stuck here. I want to go to to the diamond planet. This guy goes, if they're in our vicinity, we probably cannot perceive them for reasons. Analogous to how ticks or lights probably don't perceive their hosts, us as sentient beings. Going, doing some diamond sales, intergalactic diamond sales, and you show up at the diamond planet, and they're just like, yeah, we're not, we're not buying.

We don't really need what you got. I'm hoping to work on the diamond planet and, uh, uh, seduaries. I love, I really am stuck on that of you wanting to work in a jewelry store. I've always, I've always thought about like that in the back of my mind where I'm like, why did I want to work? Because I think you put on a suit. Yeah, but there's a lot of jobs where you put on a suit. But I guess, yeah, I guess as we talk about it's like,

expensive jewelry and stuff like that. That's like a high level, high status job or whatever. Maybe it is on some level. I don't know. I don't know. I imagine it was a pony. tale too. Oh, yeah. Probably. I'm sure I had long hair, dreadlocks more likely. I had dreadlocks in my dream. This guy goes, it's interesting here to contrast China with the United States. China's actively working on

climate change, but its people are afraid to even mention their leader. In my opinion, the cultural richness of the United States allows freedom as wisdom is decentralized. Yeah, that's true. No one gets in trouble for saying anything negative about the leader of the United States. States. Also, wisdom is decentralized. It's such a funny word to be like, I don't think, yeah, exactly, everybody's stupid here. I don't know if you watch the news, buddy, but yesterday, Poland was trying to acquire a nuclear weapon because essentially somebody offended our presidents.

In my opinion, the cultural rich, oh, he goes, I don't know why are your thoughts. Is China more sane than the U.S.? Yes. a thousand million percent yes i don't know that much about china i'm pretty ignorant about like geo but i i would say that most countries are less insane than the united states i agree well here's a guy here's a guy i think we're like an entertainment show oh for the aliens yeah and he goes oh mfg did you see that the dumb ass humans did this week holy crap it's funny how dumb these dumb barses are I mean, isn't this like a South Park or like a Simpsons thing?

Like this has just been this concept has been played out so many times. Well, did anybody say this? Pity we didn't get a cut of the revenue. Oh, shit. Wait, we're acting for free? Yeah. I think so. This is crazy.

We got a, we got a, we got a worst deal than Corey Feldman and Corey Hay. Sometimes I think like this as well, like Truman's show. style. There's even product placement. I knew somebody was going to say the Truman show. I knew it. Yeah, he goes, if aliens saw how the earth is led by pedophile sociopath, they would even move on or wipe out our species. I don't think they would just hang out.

And then the guy replied, the OP replies and goes, others have pointed out maybe we're entertaining the ultimate reality TV show. The ultimate. Yeah. And he goes, then this guy, I thought it was. response I would make is you assume they give a shit about pedophilia for all they know they glorify it. This guy needs to be on a list. And also, yeah, that's really unfair to the aliens.

To say they might be pedophiles. That's not fair. We don't know enough about them to say that. It might be normal in some cultures. That's not. We can't say that. I am going to say if any, you know, aliens, if any of you are watching, I'm just looking up right now. I mean, you guys are watching, I totally don't think you guys are pedophiles at all.

We don't want to start calling them pedoph. We don't even know how age works on their planet. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that's made of diamonds. Yeah, who knows if they're, if they even have like sex or anything like that? I mean, we know so little about them. But I think that's enough that you shouldn't be saying that about a different species that you don't know. This guy goes, there's no such thing as aliens or humans with supernatural abilities.

It would just defy physics. Who said anything about humans with supernatural abilities? ability. Nobody and I disagree. They're all in the shred. Supernatural. So he's like,

you can't move stuff with your mind and there are no aliens. Yeah, guess what? X-Men is a movie and it's scripted. And this guy, the OP goes, based on our current

understanding of physics, we've come so far in that understanding over the last few hundred years, imagine what it will be like in another few hundred. There's so much we don't know. So he thinks we will be.

be able to move stuff with our mind. He sits there every morning. We'll figure out the physics. He sits there doing a little mind push at his glass of orange juice every morning just waiting for that shit to move. He's got a big, big chalkboard and he's writing what he thinks are equations that he's figuring out. The guy that said there's no such thing goes, sorry, I just don't believe in that stuff.

There's nothing called anti-gravity or levitation or mind reading or travel faster than light or wormholes or access to the future or past. It's not available to us in the current universe unless it's all a simulation, but that would mean my reality is independent and inconsequence of the years. Oh, okay, yeah, the simulation concept. I don't know. He said no levitt. I agree with all of those except for levitation because I've seen a certain,

I've seen a certain Chris Angel mind freak levitate Shaquille O'Neal well above the city of Las Vegas and yeah so I don't know how you could watch that and say that levitation doesn't exist. We did believe in magic for a short period of time in the 2000s between David Blaine and Chris Angel. I mean, David Blaine would just do the thing where he like, he sort of stood up on his tips of his feet or whatever and had one in front of the other and from a certain camera angle or whatever it would look like he was kind of levitating. But that I know was bullshit. You show me how you take Shaquille O'Neal, one of the largest individuals on the planet, and you levitate him. Tom, I don't know if you've seen this video.

The guy is 100 feet in the air. I mean, this is clearly... 7 foot 1, 320 pounds. The guy's a 300 pounder. He's massive and he's got him up over the city for like a good amount of time. Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's crazy. This guy goes, this is a funny thought.

But may I add that all this bickering occurs through our social media. These supposed aliens may not even have that technology and awareness to access that. Oh, so they can't actually, they're watching us through this some way, but they can't, they can't access like people's Twitter or whatever. Like our own government can do that. Therefore, how would they, by the way, we, they could try, they figured out a way to watch us on TV, but they can't get on Facebook. Yeah, that's fantastic to me, the idea of that that it's just like, I mean, these,

These messages are like, you need a password to get into that. Therefore, how would they know what's happening besides the other fact of visibly seeing the climate change? And then the OPE replies and goes, maybe they've hacked the networks and they watch YouTube. Yeah. I would say that definitely you got to give them credit for being all to hack the networks at the very least. If we're being visited by advanced ETs, they likely have a primitive tribal and green pass. I'm not sure. Call them E.T. is like the movie.

Seems like a slippery slope. Sort of makes it seem a little bit like you don't know what you're talking about. It is like saying Martian. When you, when you, because a Martian would be someone from Mars, but when you hear the word Martian, it's funny. Like it's like there's not. And I know like E.T. extraterrestrial.

It really is like, but it's like it's also a very famous Steven Spielberg movie where he's like this funny little alien guy. So when you're referring. them as ETs, I kind of check out a little bit. I'm sorry, if you're having close encounters of the third kind with ETs, exactly. It's really something. That's interesting. He goes, they likely view us as mentally unstable children with great potential in the distant

future. Humanity isn't that old compared to other animals. Roaches and sharks are hundreds of millions years old, while humans are a quarter of a million years old and change so much future mankind or what comes after. after us will be evolved as a evolved from us as we are from ancient caveman. Hmm. And then this guy goes, oh, never mind.

Okay, I'm just going to read it. I've been dealing with what it seems are the graves. I mean, I saw one and then everything turned demonic for me. I saw the graves first and then it happened daily for years and now demonic stuff, entities. If this is them dealing with it,

they can shape shift and are bat shit insane and satanically evil. At least they're capable of it. So I'm not making. fun of this guy. I will not. I will not make fun of this person who's very obviously mentally ill and suffering from like serious mental illness. I've decided that's not something I like to make fun of. And is that the guy who said that his mom saw this. His mom saw the orbs as well. Yeah, I'm not going to touch that one. Well, how about this one? This is a new thread. To a dog or cat, we must be a strange animal. This is very, I've thought about this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The two animals we co-evolved with over thousands of years. Why is this guy picking up my dookies? I left it there for a reason. Oh, look at this silly human. I mean, there are a lot of people who kind of have that attitude, you know. Look at this dog watching this guy call phone sex and jack off. I mean, we've had, there's a lot of that same thing, like the aliens must watch and think that the dogs are in charge, right? Like, you know, we're cleaning up.

Yeah, that's a big old school comedy bit. He goes to a dog or a cat where a creature that does almost nothing, a sort of sloth-like chimpanzee that hunches over and stares for hours at a glowing rectangle. Slowly chewed over chimpanzee. A glowing rectangle. Slowly chewing without removing our focus. We react emotionally to things they can't see or smell. laughing, gasping, sometimes yelling at the box.

Occasionally we talk to our hypno box. Oh, the hypno box. We're on our hypno box is all the time. This is a really interesting point that this guy's making. Sometimes we tap frantically on a smaller rectangle or move objects around with what. This is like an 80s stand up routine, you know? This is like somebody who was like some road comic during the comedy boom when they needed like comics to share. And he's just like, and you ever think about how like we're looking at this rectangle box that's glowing.

And the, and then we'll tap on a smaller rectangle over and over again to try to get the damn thing to work. Like, this is good stuff, man. We ignore perfectly good chances to go outside, to play, to nap together. From their point. To nap together. Yeah, when we're at Toronto, me and you'll take a nap together, Chris. Yeah, why not? I mean, hey, I'll probably want to stay.

in your hotel because it's probably going to be like a thousand dollar a night five star hotel where I'm staying in a normal one so I might try to catch some shut eye on your like you can handle a 58 degree temperature in that he's oh yeah it doesn't be very I might have to bring some extra

sweaters and stuff just bring your clothes you wear in the winter just your jacket you'll be sleeping in that we ignore the perfectly good chances to go outside and he goes from their point of view we must seem slow dull and strangely obsessed an animal that cannot escape the light of this thing no different than a giant drain fly so the cat the intelligent cat that's

doing all sorts of intelligent things all day i mean a cat is literally like i love my cat she's sitting right over there in the same spot that she'll continue to sit for the rest of the day or until i feed her food so i mean she doesn't have that i don't think she's judging me at all right now like look at this guy's obsessed with this little box i think this rectangle she's just sleeping and sometimes she'll like see a little thing on the floor or whatever like a twist tie and then she'll just bat it around for like 15 or 20 minutes but that's mainly what her day is at this point or they'll they'll chase a little bit of light somewhere it's like that's listen at least what i'm doing on my phone there's probably something going on if they're looking at me do it you know yeah yeah

this guy goes dog yeah we're smarter than cats yeah for sure no question maybe not dogs maybe not I would say my dog is like might have me in a few areas, but my cat is no way my cat's smarter than me. Well, have you thought that dogs probably see us as demigods who live long lives and understand things far beyond their imagination? Yeah. Cat sees us as big flawed cats meant to serve them. Yeah. I guess I do clean up her litter box and give her food or whatever. But I decide when she gets the food.

She can't force me into giving her food or whatever. Does anybody follow that up with the Egyptians worshipped cats? Oh, no, I didn't see that. But, oh, Tom, that is a dumb guy thing to say. It was like a natural reply on this line of thing. But this guy goes, but we're really good hunters. We bring home lots of good food. They don't go hungry with us around or even have to hunt their own food.

The cats wonder why we don't hunt mice or birds at home. Yet when we go out, we bring home all this food. Humans are strange creatures. Yeah. Well, I'm going to do a little self-crit here. I threw out the, when cats bring you mice, they're trying to teach you out a hunt trope the other day. And somebody said that told me that had been thoroughly debunked. So I'd have a little deep thinking.

And also, Tom, do you have a cat? That's nice. Brian doesn't have any animals, of course. not a fan not an animal which makes everybody mad at me yeah of course it's one of the most like

uh like the one of the worst things you can say if you want to have people like you is to say I don't like animals it's not that I don't like them I'm not interested in them yeah like this is I could never look at it I don't I don't want to feed something else you know what I mean

like I don't I don't want to be responsible for another life except I did that. I did that for the perfect life you've created working at a jewelry store. Yeah, you're telling me when you were in your, in your jewelry store fucking life, you wouldn't have even had a cat or a dog there with you. You would have just been by yourself in the place. I don't think so. And I also have to say that I don't have pets because I don't think I'd be a very good pet owner. And that like, because I just don't, it's not something I, they annoy me. They just.

They bother me. But I don't know, man. They grow on you. I will say maybe you're wrong. But I think that it's like a thing where you, yeah. And of course, you were raised with a big wet, smelly dog. The worst. My house smelled so bad.

So I do understand that side of things. But like, I don't know, man. I've had my cat since I was like for so many years. And there were years where it was just her and I. And I don't know. I think you kind of grow to love something like that. I mean, it depends. like my cat is really sweet as well like you know it's like really loving jumps on my lap and stuff

like that but you wouldn't like that you wouldn't like a cat like snuggling up to you at night no no no absolutely not but with that said can ask a follow-up question to your uh your jewelry store oh yeah please in this it's gonna be asked a lot in a couple weeks when this comes out people are going to be like bryan wanted to jack off the phone set set of jewelry I need some holes filled in for me here. Did this fantasy include you having a waterbed? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. My, my, my grandma and grandpa, I think, had a water bed at one point. So I actually like got to be on one. And it was yeah. That was the same year. That is such a similar thing where as those other things where you're just like, this is the best thing you can have. I'm going to have a water bed

when I grow up 100%. And then by the time we grew up. they had been completely run out of society. It was just unacceptable to have one at all. So bad for your back and shit. My parents had them for years. Oh, really? So you grew up with waterbed? My brother had a water bed too.

My older brother. Yeah, I had a regular ass twin bed. He had a queen-sized water bed in his room. Tom, did you grow up with waterbed in home? No, we weren't. I couldn't do the water bed. I had friends that had water bed. and I was always envious because I thought that was like the like that's what signaled wealth.

That's what I thought to. Yeah. I thought that I thought that it was yeah. I thought that it was like the richest kind of bed that you could buy was a water. Yeah, I had a water bed. I wish I could show you guys the apartments I wanted to live in because they were really shitty. Very bad neighbor. Why did you want to live in those apartments?

Because I used to drive by them all the time. And it was just so I think I wanted to leave Groveport, right? I wanted to be out of, and this was like one mile away from my neighborhood. So I basically was like moving to the city. I was like getting out of town. One mile towards the city. No. But close to the jewelry store?

No, yeah. It wouldn't have been, it would have been probably a 10 minute drive to the jewelry store. That's nice. It's nice to be able to live close to your work. I can't. I, I, uh, and he goes, Did you think you'd be the manager of the jewelry store? No, I didn't.

Just a sales person. I didn't picture myself working to close because I do remember thinking like I'm going to have to lock the doors. Oh, so you would be like, you'd be a key holder. So you would have gained some level of trust at the store where they would have been, but you would have been like a longtime employee who was like not a manager, but you would like, they would leave you in the store by yourself sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I just think I remember thinking.

and your ponytail and my suit. I just got aspires nothing but confidence. Cweber. You were Cueber when you were dreaming this. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure.

It was just a weird, like, I don't know why it was a store that was next to a CD store I went to a lot. Oh, so that's fantastic. You get the newest albums and CDs after work or whatever. The newest corn album. And they know you. They're just like, hey, ponytail quibber, what's happening? you know hey what are you going to give me when are you going to give me a deal on a nice diamond bracelet you know they're kind of messing around with you what should i get you what should i

get my girlfriend like people come and ask me watch out boys here comes easy money walking through the door oh yeah you got your white gold where i it's such a fucking weird like thing yeah me specifically to want to do because no i know i I've never, the only jewelry I've ever had is the piercing jewelry, which cost $30. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it was, it's just such a, it would, that lifestyle. And I think most of it revolved around like, just wanting to have my own place.

Yeah. I could jack off the. Yeah. Smoking Jack. You needed to just, you needed a smoking jack shack. I got to go to the smoking jack. then the owner of the jewelry store calls you in says you've been calling Costa Rica for no I wouldn't have to do that because I'd be using my own phone yeah yeah that's the beauty

of it is that yeah nobody can say a word nobody because you're totally alone I seriously don't I do remember that there wasn't another person living with me. Like that, for some reason I lived alone and that was, I was like, this is fucking awesome. I do understand that when you're young, that young like that, the idea of just having total freedom to do whatever you want all the time, eat whatever food, you know, smoke inside, all that type of stuff is like super alluring when you have all these constraints on your life, you know, and you're like told when to eat and you can't smoke inside and you can't

do whatever, yeah. Well, this guy goes, the way you put it, wow, I hate being a human with a white collar job in the modern world. I want to nap in the sunshine with my dogs in a cuddle pile. Hmm. You hear that noise? What? Neighbors are pounding again. Guy goes, yeah, you should and you should. They're angelic creatures, but sadly, don't live all that long. Doggoes walk beside us just a while and walk inside us forever. Ah, that's a deep thought because what he means by that is you can remember them after they die but he said it in a more smart deep way this guy goes i let my dog and saw this forever dog goes too he said

dog goes dogos yeah i let my dog's puppers puppers puppers and dog goes i let my dog watch me play video games and she tilled her head whenever someone something flashes on the screen i feel like she knows something interesting is going on but can't comprehend it after a minute she'll lose interest then look at me or go somewhere else so this dog doesn't understand video games. Yeah. Another, that's another tally for humans,

though we understand video games. And this guy goes, I have cats. One day I laid down, oh, there's a woman. I don't know that it matters. I laid down on a floor at their eye level

and looked up at my husband. And now I know why some are terrified of us. I like that. I doubt humans are more strange to them than a lizard or a bird. Good point. But maybe not a lot of, there's, This is a person that lives in Florida 100% because like none of us see lizards.

Like 90% of us don't like our animals will never see lizards. You have to seek them out really. Yeah. Yeah. And birds are different to cats because birds, they want to kill birds. Yeah. Yeah. And he goes, especially with dogs, we have a lot of things in common due to co-evolution.

We're part of their formative years. So we're natural to them. An elephant would be more strange if they suddenly met one. These are excellent points These guys are amazing I can't disagree with anything It's like huge right And it's like yeah

If you hadn't seen one before It would be really strange to see one And finally This guy goes It's not like they're doing anything great With their lives either Sleeping and staring into space Yeah I love that

Like the defensive guy Who's just like dogs don't have it so good either They're fucking boring ass life also I'd rather look at the rectangle, which is true. I would 100% rather look at the rectangle than be a dog. I don't know, though. You were talking about ignorance is bliss. They don't even know, you know, they're just like relaxing, chilling all the time,

going for walks, eating food. Bored, though. In my mind, I kind of picture that being fun. I suppose my dog does seem bored, right? Like, we spend a lot of time, but like I'm working. I'm recording right now. Ariel's out doing pottery. so the dog's just like sleeping but they do want to sleep a lot i think yeah yeah i like that

yeah i'm into that i love sleeping that's a top level thing well that was deep guys i think a lot of it was focused on me wanting to jack off to phone sex in a house but i want to apologize for getting hung up on that everybody i love that so much derailing the episode but i really was fascinated by specifically you wanting to work in a jewelry store. The phone sex thing, that like sort of, you know, makes sense or whatever. But the jewelry store, I cannot wrap my head around. Me neither. I can't wrap my head around it now in 2026.

I have no earthly idea why I would work at a jewelry store. I have to commend you for your independent spirit, though, because it's like at that age, like you don't really want to live alone. You won't like your shit hit buddy, like porno. Oh, yeah. like and you would have made i would live with p i couldn't live with porno shone he always had a girlfriend oh that was fucked everything out there yeah porno shan always had a girlfriend she loved porno too that makes sense yeah i mean you can't i have to hide anything yeah totally you can't

i don't think you could get in a relationship with porno sean and be anti-porn no i think that would cause huge huge disputes in the relationship you're setting yourself up for failure then It's just one of those couples. It's one of those couples that just had like the houses busting at the seams with like sex toys and porno. Like it was just like you see a dildo every once in a while and stuff like that. It was just there was so much of they were such a sex couple. That just reminds me of one of the most we will go. But this reminds me of like one of the nastiest worst things.

My friend had a party at his house. I'm not going to use names for this because it's so bad, but had a party at his house where everyone just got super fucked up, like super drunk. And then my one friend found the guy who was hosting the party, went into their parents' room and found a dildo, a big dildo in like the bedside table, and then started slapping my friend in the face with it in his mom's always. own dildo. It was like, my friend, he's kicked out. It was like a big fight. It was like, I just had that memory. What a horrible thing to do. I would never do something like that. I had a

frame one time, and this isn't a dildo thing, but I think it's roughly the same thing. I had a friend one time, like everybody was sitting on the couch and then he popped around the corner with a tennis racket and whacked one of the guys in the head when he wasn't paying attention. And it caused such a huge problem. Yeah. Yeah. He's a vaulted him with a weapon. Yeah. Who's sitting there watching TV. Yeah.

And he wings around the corner. Who was that? Whack. That was Tony. He was brothers with, uh, he was the stamper boys. That was their, they, we like used to, I told you, we used to hang out there house. This is the best story of my life. This is my biggest story of like strength.

And I still think about it to this day. I go over the Stamper's house. And they would be like, there's. too many people here, Quieber, you can't come in. And that's, that's generally what happens to the leader. They lead the, the way and say, yes, I will be the one to leave because I'm the leader. Right. Yes.

So I'd leave. I'd be like alone wandering around the neighborhood smoking cigarettes and stuff. And, um, one day when I was like 19 years old, I had an apartment and the motherfucker showed up. Yeah. I fucking opened that door. And I said, there's too many people here. You can't come in.

Oh, I shut the door. Beautiful. Yeah. That is my biggest strength. That's the best thing I ever did. Like, that is, that was the biggest win of my entire life. Yeah. So, uh, find Tom sex in on the Trillillies.

Right. Real quick, before you got, before we get too far away from sex and stuff, I got you a treat. a treat. Oh, that is beautiful. For everyone, it's a beautiful hedonism to water bottle. That is lovely. And with Brian. Two mermaids in a tribe, then.

That's two women. Why is it two mermaids? Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, how I acquire this is, I won't say who it is, but my cousin clings house for a a guy that's going to be a lottery pick in the NBA draft next year. Oh, sweet. And turns, I won't say who, but somebody that you will know very soon, if you're a sports guy. Yeah.

His father goes to hedonism too all the time. But he just drinks out of this like it's just a McDonald's cup you had in your house. That is such bad. Just like walking, going for a walk and just like going somewhere with a bottle that says hedonism two on it. It's such a powerful move. It's Tom and Bunny rolling the motor bunny with the thing on its own

on its own like roller suitcase. Yeah. It's that. You know what I mean? All right. Well, we'll see you all next week. I don't know what we're doing, but you know,

we'll do something. It's going to be after your vacation, right? It's not a vacation number one. Number two. Number two. Oh, it's not vacation number one. There's more than one. No.

We do want to say at the Patriots. on me and Chris finally did it. We watched Bubba the Love Sponges documentary. Yeah. It's about five, it'll be about five hours of audio. Yeah, because we haven't yet,

but we're recording in a few days, the second part of it. The first part is already up when we're recording this. But when you listen to this, both parts will be up on the Hot Wife tier and it's got rave reviews. It is a psychotic documentary

video killed the radio star. It is everything you would hope for out of a bubble of love sponge documentary so yeah definitely it's it we don't like to do ads for our hot wife tier on patreon but people have even said you should mention on a main episode because this is very good listening so yeah check it out on the patreon all right bye everybody Bye.