Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 178 - Sneakers Guys with Chef Kevin

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

This week we had our good friend Chef Kevin on the show to talk about some of the most single guys we've ever looked at, Sneakers Guys. Where should they keep their boxes? How do you wear a bunch of shoes? Who in the hell is Mr. Cheapy Refund?  There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow Not Even a Show is back (temporarily) https://www.youtube.com/c/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

to guys, a podcast about guys. I'm Brian and I'm here with my good buddy Chris. Hi Chris. It almost seemed like you were trying to figure out a good thing to say in the beginning and you were trying, you thought, you know, you know what, Brian, just wait until the moment comes. It'll come to you.

Something great will come and then it just never came. Chris, can I tell you something? Yeah. My brain's blocked up like the fucking straight of hormones, man. Shut the fuck. Now that he was prepared. he was now I think he had that whole thing planned for us just for that. We actually planned that up before.

I was actually in on that. I was in on that as well. Yeah. All right. And our guests this week for sneakers guys is chef Kevin. Hi, Kevin. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me back.

Thanks for coming back. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for coming back. And thanks for doing it. And thanks for doing it later on because of the World Cup. We really appreciate you doing a later record as well.

No problem. How was the game? I don't talk about it. Okay, sorry. I was trying to think of something with like scuffed, like for Brian, like in my co-host with the most scuffed sneaks on the block. Yeah, he doesn't do that anymore. Kevin and I, I'm going to talk to him actually like off mic because I really, it was one of the things that I looked forward to the most is like, what's he going to say? I mean, maybe you can't talk to you off mic. Yeah, well, maybe it's, yeah, I know, we don't, we don't, we don't talk.

off Mike, but I thought maybe I could send you an email and... Nope. Okay. Don't do that either. No problem. You can send me... Hey, listen. Listen, you can send me one text today.

Make it count. Okay. That's a funny idea. Make it count. No, I'm kidding. Trying that on first dates, wondering why it's not working. One text per day. I just do one text today.

Make it count. Make it count. Make it count, sweetie. just send a picture of your titties. If it's just one text a day, it better be titties. You know what I'm saying? No, I know.

I'm not trying. No, I don't know what you're saying. You don't like titties? Is that a Reddit post? Like, fellas, fellas, titties or the freshest sneaks? I do feel like. I could look that up. I don't think that's there.

And I think a lot of these guys might pick the freshest sneaks. both a great pair Kevin I do like to I'm very professional host now what is your sneaker situation are you would you consider yourself it's bad you don't you're not a sneaker guy you don't have multi pairs what I I dabbled in early COVID where I was like just trying to find something to get into and someone was talking about shoes and I was like oh maybe I'll try getting some nice shoes like and so I got like a couple different pairs of nikes i got some like the skateboarding shoes i like those like casual the sbs um some running shoes i got one pair of basketball shoes i don't play basketball but i was like that's okay that's okay i'm sure brian will tell there's plenty of these guys who don't play basketball and they buy very expensive handball shoes that i wear oh handball i have two pairs of handball shoes that's basically what i wear when i'm not wearing well no one of samba's the other ones are handball Spez y'all.

Special. Oh, okay. Let's be honest. It says handball on the packaging, brother. Yeah, I know. But come on. Those are pretty common shoes that people wear. Just in a pair of Adidas shoes.

I purple those. And then I have the beautiful samba. I got it undefeated. And then I have a pair of AirMax. Mm-hmm. Air Max 90s, 90s? 90s. They're like black.

They're actually, they're a hybrid. Air Max Cortez. Okay, yeah, I know those. But I got tired of them because they have yellow on them. I was like, I don't want to wear those anymore. I do like, I used to wear AirMax 90s only, but I would just buy white one, like all white AirMax 90s and I would wear those as like my walking around shoes. I found them the most comfortable or whatever.

But I have moved on. I'm actually wearing Adidas shoes nowadays myself. I'm, yeah, I've become an Adidas guy as well. Brian and I talked about this. We really, we like the Adidas apparel a lot more nowadays. Yeah, I wear the Terricks. Yeah, I'm not. I do originals.

I'm mostly wearing original's kind of stuff. Those are not for walking 20 miles a day. No, no, no, no. No, you're right about that. You are right about that. And neither are the shoes I have, by the way. Every time I go buy them at the store, they're like, you know, you shouldn't be walking and he's in the city.

Are you going through a lot of shoes, Brian, because of how much you're walking? But not anymore because of these shoes I discovered like a few years ago. They will stop making. And I will be fucked. But they haven't yet. And they're, I know they're about to stop making them because now they're 60. And you're just like, oh, there's no way they're going to keep making me. That's a bad sign.

It's good for like the, you know, the immediate. You're like, oh, shit, all right. I get them for 65. And you're like, that's actually a bad sign. He said just buy them all. Yeah. She said to go on fucking Amazon and just buy them all. It's like, I'll be all right.

That's not a bad idea. I mean, just buy a bunch of pairs of them. So you have ones. It's a continental tire tread on the bottom, which lasts a lot longer. It's hard. So if you walk 20 miles a day, it takes longer to burn hard rubber off than it does soft rubber. Oh, okay. Very interesting.

Yeah, I do walk quite a bit, not as much as Brian, but I do run. I go through shoes pretty quickly. But I wouldn't, so I wouldn't consider myself. Brian, you're more of a sneaker guy than me, probably. I don't have. I don't, I, I hate one thing. The reason I would never call myself a sneaker guy is because I absolutely despise the Air Jordan. brand in every way. I don't own an Air Jordan's shirt. I have one pair of Jordans. I have one pair

of Jordans I do that I like. They're actually quite comfortable. I think Ariel would probably listen to this and say that maybe I am like, but I'm not a sneaker guy. I'm not like out looking for I just, I do have a few pairs. I probably have maybe six or maybe eight pairs of sneakers. I have like new balance. I have all different kinds of sneakers. But yeah. You sound like you're in between like a guy and me who's Like, I don't remember the last time I bought a new pair of shoes. Yeah. But you're not like hardcore about. I'm not hardcore.

I'm looking for shoes right now. Katie was like, you're looking for shoes. And I was like, yeah. Brian. Just got shoes. And I was like, I need more. What's the place? What's the place called where you get like the secondary market ones?

Stock X. But I don't do that. I don't do that because of sizes these days. Oh, I see. You can't trust the sizes. You don't know what you're. You can't trust sizes anywhere. You really got to try the shoes on before you buy them.

these days. And you also can't trust these guys cock sizes. They're lying about it all over the A lot of the time you can't trust these guys cock sizes. Most of the time it's a micro penis. I think I're like I have 12 inches. I don't think that's a selling pair Air Jordan tens. I'm six inches hard. That's what I do. That doesn't make sense. I'm on stock X. I'm like so how big your penis? And the so I once bought a pair of um of uh, air force one. high top Gortex shoes on Stock X. And I've maybe even mentioned this on guys before. But it was my last ever experience on Stock X as like, oh, shit, I snag those for, you know, $275, which was only, they were 225 normally or something. So I'm like, oh, I got a great deal on those. And then the duty fees came in,

and it was like $175 duty. And it's, they hold it and you have to pay it or you can't get it. And so, yeah, I'll never do that again. It was, but they did last me long. time and I did like them. But yeah, that's, I used to kind of maybe be more into, like I would buy the occasional, like, maybe like, uh, like a, like a type of shoe that's like like a sneaker head type shoe. But now I'm just like, okay, I want to buy shoes that are normal and then are comfortable. That's interesting. Because down here, they let you make duty for free. Jeez, you are very different when we record in the evening. Guys, nights. All right. My boyfriend. He refuses to throw away his shoe boxes of R slash sneakers.

I bought my boyfriend those clear shoe containers everybody has. They look clean in his closet and he loves them, but he still refuses to throw the original boxes. I don't see him selling them in the future either. Does everyone do this? Is it at all possible to flatten the boxes in a way that doesn't ruin them? It seems silly to take up so much space for empty boxes. It's a ton of space.

It is a lot of space. Unless he wears like the smallest shoes, which is a possibility. But these guys do, I will say, like, I got into, just because I thought they were funny, I was like watching some of those Instagram videos where people are selling shoes. You know, they're coming in, they're like, oh, flip a coin or whatever. And if I win, then I'll sell them to you for this much. If you win, then whatever.

And people are bringing some, like, well-worn shoes. If they're, like, high-quality shoes and in-demand, you can still sell them when they've been worn more than you'd think. Like, people will buy shoes that are like, oh, these are someone's old shoes or whatever. Trying to pretend like that's not your kink. Just be like, oh, darn it, I have the old ones that you got all stinky. Yeah.

I guess I have to get it. I guess that's mine now. I guess that's the only ones I can get. You know, you're like noticeably hard. It's right under your nose. Yeah. These are worn right. Yeah, you put some work in these.

You said 20 miles a day? I guess I have to have them now. You wear it on. job site butch. The guy's named butch. Interesting. Interesting choice of name. Guys.

He works. Guys nice for you, Chris. Nothing like opening the closet and seeing those old gray and black Jordan boxes and the brown Nike boxes. This guy's like, we'll lose. I think the Nike boxes are orange. Well, but they have brown ones.

Okay. Everything's going brown these days. Oh, you're telling me. All right. I'm not going to get. tribute to this guy's night. I'm not doing it. You're not dragging me into your hell. But it is. All the boxes are throwing us alley hoops and Chris and I are just watching it go past the hoop. But I'm saying that all the all the all the all the shoe boxes are turning brown these days because they're like, oh, that's better for the environment.

Oh, I, oh, you're right. Like the regular cardboard color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Color all over. Don't color all over it. Yeah. I understand. This guy goes, yes, flatten them down. And also, yes, we all keep them. So this guy has like a whole bin. Now this I'm like okay with. I'm like, all right, well, you know, you're going to put them in a little bin there. So he's flattened them all. He's got the different colors.

There's some, there's some purple in there. Looks like there's some browns. Yeah, some browns. So yeah, he's at least considering storage. And yeah, I think you can, right? You can just, you don't have to like break them to do that, right? You can break them down where you can rebuild the boxes. You can fold them down.

Yeah. I like this next guy that just goes, you ever had any problems flattening the boxes? Like, he's like, he's like, he's too stupid to figure it out. He doesn't want to,

he doesn't want to like, say that and he's just like, I mean, I'm fine with it. I can do it easily. It's like, I could do it like with my eyes closed, but do you guys ever have a lot of trouble doing it

and you feel so stupid? Like, how come everyone else can do this? He's jumping on it and going, fuck every time. Hold it like a Rubik's cube. It is. hand and then he'll untuck something out and be like oh yeah yeah tuck it back in this guy goes uh nope

it's pretty straightforward glorified pizza box and then this guy reply it's so funny how many guys in this thread are like you know i never thought to do that hmm yeah which is like you to fold them up or to keep them in general to fold them oh they all think to keep them they all sure they all keep them yeah but they're all like they're all like i taking up the entire closet. Dude, there's no way it fit because the way these guys have shoes, I've seen some shoe rooms over this past few days. The amount of shoes these guys have, it ain't just a closet, man.

It's probably the entire basement. It would have to be because I have a thing. I'm not a hoarder necessarily. The tone of that. A little concerned. But I always, I almost think you are a hoarder. No, I'm not a hoarder, but I am, like, it takes me two years or so to throw something away. You know what I mean?

Like, I don't mind throwing stuff away. I got fucking boxes in my closet of stuff that I'm never going to look at again in my entire life. And I'm like, I should just take this whole box and throw it into trash. Like, it's not a, like, the box is like a miscellaneous box. It has a bunch of it. It's not like the original boxes. It's got a lot of street fight stuff in it. Like old, old stuff.

You know what I? I mean, just packed with like zines and like all this stuff. And it's just like, I am never going to open this and look at this. You know what I mean? Like it's never going to happen. And it's not like sad or anything. But that makes sense that like street fights are old show that you did for a long time. So I can kind of understand that to be like it's sentimental and you don't necessarily

want to throw that away. And the other problem I had was the Lego boxes for a period of time where I wasn't throwing away Lego box. So I was like these guys. And Lego boxes, a lot. bigger than shoeboxes and I was folding them but they got to I you know I bought a lot of Legos I admit it I'm not not admitting that not recently but then I did when was the last time you bought a Lego set by the way I'm still doing shopping town you're still doing shopping what's the

latest thing still doing little shopping town he's called shopping he's doing it's an 18 plus oh no I know about shopping what's the latest like installment within shopping town oh I haven't done much. Water fountain or something, yeah. There's wrestling on this weekend. I'll probably do it while I'm watching wrestling. Yeah. Like I haven't touched it much lately.

Well, we're supposed to, I think we're supposed to do a stream while the rest of it. Wrestling six hours. Oh yeah, I forgot. And the stream is not. I forgot. I have a friend that, um, as Kanye West was going through one of his many, uh, spirals posted an Instagram story that was like, hey, I'm giving these away if anyone wants them. and it was like 10 boxes of his Yeezy shoes.

Like, I guess he bought a lot years ago. And then was like, uh, I don't actually don't want these anymore. And understandably no one else wanted them. No. No. There's a there. I mean, people are buying them again now, I think. Yeah.

Uh, or stuff like them. Because they're basically still making the same shoes. They just don't have Kanye West name on them anymore. Yeah. Uh, this guy goes, yep, I flattened all the shoe boxes when moving. It was easier to move after stuff. them all in a big box, just reassemble the boxes after, which you don't really, I don't think ever have to do. Unless you're going to sell the shoe, unless you're like, I never wore these shoes

and I'm going to put them up on stock X or whatever. Now, you'll see this a lot. This is now a post. You'll see a lot. Yeah, I'm doing this now. I have a closet just for boxes, then a closet just for shoes. Currently house shopping. Wow, must be nice. Currently house shopping. So you now have to move because you don't have enough space. That's how I'm taking. Making a house out of all these shoe boxes. Yeah. He's going to have a. famous sneaker headline coming up here he goes i'm going to convert a bedroom into a shoe room slash cause it here comes the sneaker guy thing i'm single with no kids nobody can tell me what to do i'm putting a bench press set up in my room wow oh it's sick dude that's awesome it's good to

get to stay fit i guess right yeah stay strong oh man that's fucking cool what you just said oh buddy that's the coolest thing i heard all fucking day bench so you can just roll right out of bed you could start fucking lifting. Oh, hell yeah. Put on all your coolest shoes as you do it. Oh, hell yeah, dude. I did say, we'll get through it later. One of my favorite things is guys being like, I just don't wear as many shoes as I used

to. And then there's other guys that are like, yeah, I wear them around the house. I change them two, three times a day. Oh, yeah, you get, you gets to a point where if you're not planning to resell them, right? You're not going to do the resell thing. Then you're just like, I've got all these shoes. Did I waste my money on them? No, because of course I didn't.

No, no, I wear them all the time around the house, you know, the place where you don't need to wear shoes. I change two times. Brian, you do wear. I'm not wearing them right now. But you do wear shoes around the house. I showered before this, that's why. But I would be wearing them if I didn't take a shower. But not because you're a sneakerhead, just because you have a, it's other weird eccentricity.

This guy goes a lot of nob, dumb, hive-minded sneaker heads in his sub, to be frank. If the sneakers are used, boxes aren't worse shit other than sentimental value. Source? I've been selling sneakers on eBay for 20 years. No one's ever returned a shoe because of a replacement box. Oh, I see. So he's saying like you don't need the original box unless it's a new pair of shoes. Yes.

That kind of does make sense. That kind of does make sense. So they are saving the boxes for no real good reason if they're shoes that you've worn. Well, this guy goes horrible take. And then I love this next comment. This comment got me. He goes, then this is talking to the O.P., the woman whose boyfriend. Don't tell the box they're right.

There's bigger things of life to worry about the shoe boxes. Sound like they make them happy. Oh, wow. See, I don't know. I don't know if I guess they do in a way. They seem to, you know, have some sort of comfort in having the boxes. But I think it's like misplaced, right? If, in fact, you're not going to use them to resell the, then what do you need the boxes for?

Like the idea that the boxes make him happy. Like, yeah, he goes and looks like, yay. Goes and looks at the boxes. Holy shit, that's a lot of boxes. He's clapping. I don't like the idea of keeping the boxes, but I will say if you are folding them up and putting them in a plastic bin like that,

that is my wife and I were just doing that this morning with like moving plastic bins around the house and like doing this kind of consolidating. I have it with like audio stuff where it was like, okay, this is just taking up too many bins. I need to get these three down to this one and a half or two. so I get the idea of like look if you're going to have this we just need a better way to do this but if it's just like you're you got four rooms dedicated to just shoe boxes you got a bigger problem

Kevin Kevin I think you got a bigger problem and that is you got a wife and a kid to tell you what to do yeah my home gym is fucked by the way I mean I mean I guarantee your wife would be all up in your ass if you wanted to put a bench press fucking you know if you wanted to put a bench in the room. This is the issue. This issue we all have. We're talking about it from like a position where it's like, yeah, of course we can't keep our boxes fully, you know, have an entire room for boxes. That's because we got damn wives to tell us not to do it. Lives and kids, they ruin it. This guy goes, yeah, he's keeping them in case he needs some money down the line and has to sell some pairs. They're worth more with the box.

Typical speakerhead behavior. And then he goes, they can be flattened, but I just stacked mine. And now this line, fabulous. It isn't hoarding. It just comes. into the territory of dating somebody into sneakers. Okay. Yeah, because you are. But did anybody say it was hoarding? Nobody mentioned that it wasn't. Nobody said the word hoarding. He just,

that's a thing that's inside his head where he's just like, it's not hoarding, by the way. I have a stack of newspapers next to his chair. He's like, it's not a hoarding. It's not hoarding. I'm just interested in old news. They're freaking straight of whore moose. I've been looking back on the straight of whormuz saga. Well, that's new.

My boyfriend isn't even into sneakers anymore. It was years ago. He won't sell them or wear them. Hmm. Yeah, that's hoarding. I think if you're not selling them or wearing them, you have no use for them at all. That is hoarding.

The guy that mentioned that it's not hoarding, did reply and go, I understand not selling them. I don't understand not wearing them. Maybe they remind them of good times. So then, now, Brian, we're kind of going into nostalgia guys a little bit with this. been several times where you have read something that feels like we're kind of getting into

like, this reminds him of a better time in his life. So maybe we can ease up. But they're telling his girlfriend that. Yeah. So maybe he just goes, but if they remind him of a better time or they're just not comfortable anymore, that's why he doesn't wear them. But he likes to like look at them. Just take pictures of them. Goes in and he sits down in the shoe closet, looks at him. Holds one up in his hand. He was like, I remember when that girl said nice kicks to me. Oh, yeah. That was in shoes. Oh, I remember. remember at the, you know, at the Smile Town Arcade, 1997. These got me a couple of compliments from a few babes.

Mom bought me these. Yeah. Oh, Mom, rest in Brees. At the store. She's dead now. She's passed away. She died right after she bought these. She got knocked over by all the shoeboxes in my room. She fell over.

She was crushed by my shoeboxes. Wizard of Oz style. Her feet just sticking out. And this and this. and my only reminder of my mom and never took a picture with her is this pair of shoes that you bought for me. If he ever wants to sell him, they'll get more if he has the boxes. Plus, lots of boxes look cool, especially special boxes. Yeah.

That's a child thing to say. That's a little child thing to say, though. I like the special box. Yeah, the special cool boxes. Some of them have like cool designs and cool colors. And it's like you stack them up. It's like, yeah, it's like you're doing big blocks. and it looks very, very cool.

If you have the space for it... Make a whole shopping town out of it. I mean, it feels like... It feels like to be a sneaker guy, and a lot of them are, like the real hardcore sneaker guys are these like really rich, like celebrities are obviously famously huge. Sneaker guys, a lot of it.

If you have the space to do it, then whatever. You know what I mean? Keep them in the boxes, do whatever you want. But it seems to me like a lot of these guys are, you know, in like a two or three bedroom apartment and putting a lot of their money into sneakers. and then you got to maybe make a decision, you know.

This guy goes, other than one box that had South Park characters on it and even tissue paper inside printed with reappearing patterns of little South Park guys, what I ended up doing was cutting all the barcode description panels off the boxes I have. I don't use the clear plastic containers because I wear all my shoes. So they're in a hanging door rack that has room for lots of shoes. And I have them over, I have them over both sides of the closet door. So this guy. Why does he have the bar codes? I don't know that.

But I know he has one box, and it's one with all the South Park guys on it. Now, that's a special design. Yeah, hey, who killed Kenny? You know, he still says who killed Kenny. They do have Towley Adidas, and I saw them. And then I went and looked him up and was like, $250. So I guess that's kind of the only exception to me is like, if it's a novelty box that has something unique, I could see why you would want to keep it, but just a bin of the same shoebox over and over,

or they're all maybe slightly different. I just don't see the purpose of it. Again, some people are saying in, I'm with you on it, Kevin, but some people are saying in the thread, it seems like that there's some disagreement on whether or not putting them in the original box can get you more money. So maybe that's what they're thinking or they're telling themselves. I mean, listen, we deal with a lot of collectors on guys,

as you can imagine, people who collect large amounts of things. And there's a lot of them. Some of them really are reselling the stuff, but there's a lot of people who I think lie to themselves. And it's part of that lie to say like, hey, I'm not just wasting all of my money on a bunch of sneakers. I'm going to resell these.

And it's like they're collectibles. I'm going to, it's an investment of sorts. They could appreciate in value. And if you throw the boxes away, you're almost like giving up on that. And you're admitting that you've just spent money on boxes. You bought a bunch of boxes.

This guy goes, mind your business. Leave that man in his shoe boxes alone. Just my initial thoughts. And she replies and goes, sounds like you're miserable and he goes not as miserable as I'd be if my lady was yapping in my ear about my shoe boxes well you don't let's be clear you don't have a lady yeah you're alone on a bench press my friend there's that the bench press guy I don't know I mean it's a bench press

made out of shoe boxes I think yeah bench press made out of reinforced shoe boxes he's using shoe boxes as the built he's got he's got he's got he's poured concrete into two shoe boxes and he's on a barbell. And then he goes miserable enough to make false assumptions about strangers on the internet. And he replies, it goes, not as miserable as I'd be if I found out my lady came to the internet to ask strangers

what she can do about my shoe boxes. My hypothetical lady that I have not yet met because nobody's good enough for me and accepts my shoes. Now, this guy's funny. He goes, she get rid of you first. And she goes, you're miserable.

And then he goes, that's what my high school year book. said too. Thank you. Oh, I take that as a compliment. So this, this poor lady is, she's come in here looking for some advice and she's come to the wrong fucking place. You don't go to R slash sneakers to get that advice. No, you don't. You're just going to get dog pile. As soon as they, as soon as you say you're a woman, you're in trouble. Are you on the like new parents subreddit at all? Does that ever pop up for you? I'm not on. Yeah. I'm getting advice. Brian, no, I'm not on the new parent. The old

only subredits I'm on are I do use it sometimes I use it for like movie stuff sometimes and then it's like I've been well I've been looking at world cup and so for sports I'll look at like game threads and stuff like during the NBA playoffs. Um, but yeah, no I I'm not a big fan of I'm not a big Reddit guy. I will say it's um my wife and I will look at it and sometimes it's helpful like people giving like good advice a lot of times unfortunately it is someone asking a pretty stupid question and then like the one that always sticks out to me is someone saying my kid has fallen off the bed three times this month at what point should I do something different and all of the comments are like you got it you can't let your kids sleep in the if the your baby is falling off the bed every week you're a bad parents yeah I'm gonna start giving advice on those things I'm just start going to the new parent things and just drop some advice on people yeah you're just like you know I find it's pretty easy and you're just like you know I find it's pretty easy with the newborn if you just take a bunch of pills and disappear for long periods of time. This is a, yeah, this guy goes what I own versus what I wear. So this is what he owns. He has quite a

bit of shoes. Yeah. And he, they're out of the box. They're out of the box. They're all lined up. This is what he wears. He's, it's, it's one, two, three, five pairs of shoes. The bottom ones. The bottom ones, I have those actually. Of course you do. They're like, they're croc style Nike shoe. They're like, uh, closed toe sandals. Um, I have a pair of those, not the black ones, but, Yeah, he looks like he wears one pair of Adidas. He wears a couple of Nike shoes. Can you go back to the original image, Brian? I'm just curious, like, how many pairs of shoes is?

Like a lot. Like here. Yeah, this is just like a number that I can't compute. I could see myself getting into shoes, but never to this degree. Like, I think it's fun and artistic and stuff. but this is just like, this is overwhelming to me. It's 50, it looks like 56 pairs of shoes is what I can. Good math, buddy.

Thanks. Good. Oh, I'm actually wrong. There's four rows of four. There's, yeah, there's, yeah, there's 87. No, there's eight rows of eight, 64. 65. 64.

Okay. This guy goes, this is why I began to sell my collection. Shoes are sitting there collecting dust and some of them are uncomfortable. And then this guy goes, they aren't shoes until you wear them. What? interesting if a tree falls in the forest let's have that conversation when does it become a shoe

I guess we have the conversation about that you didn't think that was going to happen here we're going to sort of talk about that kind of thing on here hey Kevin wouldn't it by the way fuck your wife yeah yeah yeah philosophy though we're doing philosophy on this episode you know I get it when does a shoe become a shoe I mean I think yeah I think it's a shoe

before because after realizing that years ago my collection's been trimmed a ton and I wear everything I own. So good for him. And then this guy goes, I see many of my pairs more like action figures. Interesting. Okay. So I replied, the OP replies, it goes, brilliant. Wow.

Thank you. Thank you. Finally, I can justify this insane shit that I do. I mean, he said it's brilliant that I use them like action figure. Action. So he's like, he's just, they're to be admired and. sort of he just looks at them kind of. Yeah.

And this guy goes, this guy goes, the only difference is figures take up way less space. But I see the vision. It's got some visionary. This guy that said, I see him like action figures, he could be the god of shoes.

If he wanted it. Shoes do cost a lot more than action figures. Brand new, definitely. Yeah. And then this poor guy goes, action figures you pay $200 for and feel guilty every time you look at them.

Sure. So that guy's got some problem. yeah i mean that guy is that guy has not yet given himself over to just accept what he is he's kind of like he has remorse and guilt about it who knows he's probably got i'll be honest he's probably got a damn wife complaining about it it's a big issue maybe even a hungry kid is probably like what do you mean i can't have you missed my graduation again dad oh my god god how many times are you going to graduate kid god you need another pair of shoes i got to buy you another pair of shoes kid give me a break you know you know

Don't you already have one pair of shoes? Like, yeah. What do you mean, get my own, dad? Nike have the narrowest toebox. I really don't know who they're designed for. Since wearing them for a few years, I've noticed my pinky toe has turned inwards and developed apparently what's called a tailor's bunion.

Wait a second. He's saying he doesn't know who Nike shoes are made for? Yeah. Just a brand Nike. Yeah. I mean, I gave them a tailor's bunion. I think maybe you have wide feet because I think Nike, shoes famously

are worn by a lot of people. You're about to learn a bit about a Taylor's bunion here. He goes, I swear my toes were normal before, but I'm pretty sure. I've been doing some things to fix and it's been helping a lot. I swear my toes are normal.

I'm pretty sure. The back pedal. Yeah, he's like, my toes were fucking normal. Yeah. But that one time somebody said my toes look weird when I was growing up. There was that one time. he goes ah ah he goes i've been doing some things to fix it it's been helping a lot but i know

stuffing him back into jordan's or nikes for a few hours every day as i'm helping i gotta go grab some sneakers with a wider toe box so there you go you get some and then this guy goes yep it's funny when i throw a new balance sock in the a six i'm like wow these sneakers are actually shaped like feet and then i'm like what the actual fuck is wrong with nike and jordan brand do they hate us do they hate feet how did michael jordan hoop in these so many questions. Well, I think, I think that maybe some people have wider feet.

Like, I don't think everybody's feet look the same. So I think that, like, I put on Nikes, they don't mangle my toe up and they feel comfortable and fine. It's weird. They mangle my toe up. Do they, I mean, all jokes aside, right? No, all jokes aside, you wear Nikes, right?

Kevin, you wear Nike. I actually don't. You find them to be normal, like of normal comfort, right? I think maybe even Indeed is I feel like are like narrower. You shut your mouth. Oh, you shut your mouth. I haven't had any issues with like severe blistering or anything. I think part of it is like I always wear like thicker, maybe not thicker, but like the ankle socks above my ankles and stuff.

And the only time I really had severe issues with this is like when I played volleyball in high school. And the stopping and starting like gave me like warts and blisters and stuff. So, but I know that that wasn't shoe dependent. No, I think that was like just what I was doing. So I haven't really, I've been lucky to not have like take my shoes off and I'm like all fucked up and stuff. What do you think about these new rule changes in international volleyball? Have you seen this? No, what are they?

Oh, there's just about like blocks and about directing the ball and and you can't like put your fingers over. Do you play volleyball? I don't play volleyball. I watch John Boy Media YouTube channel and he did coverage of a volleyball event. I was just trying to. I was hoping that I thought maybe Kevin

Stuck was still going on. Let's go to a game. Let's go to a match. Let's go to a volleyball. They have a team here. I could go to Columbus Fury. Let's go to a volleyball match sometime, Kevin. Honestly, if you're ever in town in Vancouver, I would love to go to a volleyball match.

I'll fly out tomorrow. Yeah. MJ, we're definitely designed. time for his feet. They use the same mold they made they for the rest of us. So you're, that's the problem, right? They made the Jordans for Jordan's feet and now you're all shoving your foot into Michael Jordan's shoe. But Jordan wouldn't he have had big feet? I don't know what they're saying here and I don't think that's true at all. I don't think that's how it works. Yeah, I do not believe that all Jordans are shaped like Michael Jordan's feet. That just doesn't sound like something to me. No. Yeah. You know, he goes, uh,

For the rest, he definitely had his own last and they made it, they made his on. I don't know what that means. They seriously remind me of stuff of my feet into a high heel or something with how narrow they are. Seriously. Who the hell has feet like that? I got a pair of crocs and they really have the best toe box. I've ever worn, sadly, I just can't get myself to wear them out.

So there you go. Get some crocs. Yeah. Jordan's are fucking up. And this guy goes, why don't wear the other ones? I try to wear all my kicks at least once a month. That said, I do have a few I wear more often. this guy changes his shoes a lot.

Yeah, that's, there are people like that. I, I don't really, I mean, I'll, I'll change it depending on outfit sometimes, right? Like, I'll, like, I'll try to match my shoes maybe to an outfit or whatever. So it is. That's why I like a, just a white shoe or like a, you know, one that kind of goes with everything. I got two pairs right next to me. Uh, I got a pair of slippers because, uh, I moved and I have, uh, wood stairs and I ate shit going down the stairs in my socks and I was like, all right, I got to get some slippies. And so they got

they're a little grippy on the bottom. And then before it was some grippy slippies. I got some before they became an AI company, Allbirds too. Those are pretty cheap material. But similarly, they're just very easy to run and off. I feel like, okay. Yeah, yeah. I love an AI shoe. I like. Yeah. That's why I got into it. Brian loves an AI shoe. I have some slides. I have Nike slides and then I have Adidas slides because I'll just like go take the dog out

across the street to the park, whatever. And I don't want to be fucking putting shoes on for that. I just slip the old slides on. Yeah, feels good. This guy goes, that's what I do too. I work from home and some days I switch them out so I can wear two or three different pairs a day. That's cool.

Because I also work from home and I just, I do not, I only wear like the slippers. I truly never put shoes on. You're misunderstanding. Again, this all comes down to the internal guilt and shame that these guys feel about buying so many useless things that they're like, hey, they're not useless things. I wear every single one of these shoes because I switch out four or five times a day. So I actually need 36 pairs of shoes. Yeah, I'm doing like five, five a day, seven days in the week.

Yeah. I've got my I've got my dad. I have vacation shoes that I wear shower shoes. I got my post shower shoes. I have my coitus shoes. I wear my jackoff shoes. I have my jack off shoes, which are different than my sex shoes.

I need some grip for those. We're Reeboks for Jack and all. Yeah, my, my jack off shoes have extra grip on the bottom. He goes up. I've been collecting since 1995 and I've double what you have. But now wear one fifth of what you wear. Okay.

Okay. Relax, man. I know. He goes, I've literally worn a single pair of Brooks outside of maybe two or three pairs for a couple hours, less than a handful of times. In the last one and a half years, I'm so over kicks now and going to sell 90% on what I got. At this point, it's just money riding away and something that will crumble. Time to make my family rich and not further grow the Jordan family estate. Okay, so this guy, he's delusional about his worn, heavily worn shoes getting sold. But maybe he's got some in there.

But this is this has got to be a sad thing to see for sneaker heads, right? It's like a disillusion. Like, I'm out of this. This is fucking stupid. I've wasted my life. What the fuck was I doing? Sick of making Michael Jordan rich. You know, like that was the bummer.

He's like, I ain't going to make the Jordan's rich anymore. Yeah, these guys, they got enough money as it is. I'm not going to be paying for Michael Jordan's freaking poker hands in Vegas. What's the movie with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon? That would be it. No. No, I think he's talking. talking about the Nike one, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one about shoes, the whole topic. The topic is shoes. In Brian's defense, I don't think Matt David is in this one. Okay. But so that's why it was a little bit. I still knew what you were talking about when you said to Ben Affleck movie. I knew that you were talking about is it, what's it called air?

Yeah, air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's a ball. Brian just loves the rip. I love the rip. Brian and I both watch the. rip and we're like, ah, this is the shit. Yeah, do more rip.

You'd be all right. I have at least 100 pairs and I wear two pairs of boots five times a week. You love what you love, my guy. Keep buying. Well, no. Yep. And then this guy goes terrible advice. We need to be able to appreciate things we like from afar. All the money I've wasted, it could have been invested and made me more money

that would have brought me more happiness down the road was maybe a vacation or something else. Yeah. Makes me think of the, uh, Did you guys talk about that, Kevin O'Leary, the Shark Tank guy that was like, I hate seeing when people spend $20 on a sandwich. You know what you could do with that $20? Invest it. And over a 30-year span, you could be making millions.

Oh, yeah. I think you missed a point of my friend. I like a sandwich, though. I love a good sandwich. I love a good sandwich. This guy asks, what would you do if someone stepped on your shoes on purpose and didn't apologize? I saw people do this in high school and fights almost broke out. Yeah, we did it.

sensitive thing. We did it a lot and we did fight each other about it. You know, you do a flat tire on somebody. That fucking sucks. Like on the back of their, like you step on their heel. Yeah,

that's a nasty maneuver. Honestly, me and Katie do that to each other still. That does seem like some shit that you and your fucking violence gang friends would do. And you probably did it to sort of different classmates. Elderly women. Yeah, yeah.

You're stepping on some old lady in her fucking sleeping. slippers out to pick up her fucking newspaper her jerk off slippers and I would stomp on them. Oh yeah. That's right. Brian, Brian had a real bad situation with his shoes where they got called Bobo shoes. No, I'm not a guy's shoes, Bobo shoes. Oh, you called someone else's shoes Bobo shoes. And then he beat me up. Oh, that's right. He said no no to Bobo. He was not happy to hear his shoes were, but they were Bobo. I'll tell you that right now. They were cheap. They were hoops. back in my day they hoops were like oh it was so bad if you got hoops i told you the story about the one guy right he got these LA gears yeah oh yeah look at these fresh LA gears

you know what I mean they're yeah they're Michael Jordan's we're like LA gear doesn't make a Michael Jordan shoe and he's like well it says MJ on it they're Michael Jackson they were Michael Jackson they were Michael Jackson's black little dress shoes check on my Michael Jackson and they were doing like the moonwalk. They had the feet like doing the moonwalk. It was so obvious. And we, oh my,

I never saw those shoes again. And he never wore him again. I ended up going to jail. But sure. He went to jail and then somebody else, one of our friends went to jail while he was in jail. And he got out first and he was like, everybody in jail is calling him Lord Helmut because he had a big head.

So we got home, when he got home, that was his name at home. Oh, that's brutal. You're like getting it in prison and then you finally get out and you're like oh thank god i don't have to hear the lord helmet thing anymore and then boom you and the fucking good time boys are saying i just pictured though that guy beating the shit out of you for saying bobo shoes what was his name david imagine david how fucking beautiful that must have felt when you catch when you catch little bitch boy quieber by himself without all of his

tough that's even worse than that because the thing that went on was like boys let me handle this is what I did I did everybody was there oh you said let I was like let me handle this hey hey hey what was their reaction queber's got this one okay quiver quiverr doesn't need any help on this one and like just like comic like cartoon style you're like I don't need any help you turn you're just getting this shit punched out of me and then of course what they were all like you know when I said hey hold on they were all like which one of us is just going to beat them up and Brian can't finish the job and yeah they just just ended up doing that. But yeah, yeah, I got beat up because I called it. He had hoops,

though. You know what I mean? They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, hoops were shoes that they made look like Jordans. Mm-hmm. And then it just said hoops real big on them. And man, you know, now I think about him like, it sucks that we were so mean to people that wore hoops because they just couldn't get the Jordan. They couldn't afford it. These weren't, these weren't, these weren't sebring families. No, well, I, I, I, I was at, I was at the store, getting my shoes for school. Uh-huh. Sure.

That's a fun time to get shoes. I remember that when you're like in school and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get to go pick out a new pair of school shoes. They had these sick British nights there. And I'll still stand by them. I wish I could find a picture of them. But they had like kind of a pink color on them, but it looked cool in a way. And I got them.

And when I went to school the next day, they were like, are your shoes pink? Yeah. And then I had to wear them then for. for six months. And that's rough. I don't know if you, I don't know if you know about what it was like at Kweber's school,

but you did not, it's not like nowadays. You did not want to be wearing pink as a, as a young boy in, in Kweber's school. No, no, no. Metro sexual? Yeah.

That word wasn't invented yet. Oh, I'd imagine they were using a word that we will not be saying on the podcast. A little shorter. A little shorter to the point. This guy goes, I rage on the inside until I convince myself that they're just shoes and

God doesn't want me to harm others. Oh, okay. So this guy, God is speaking to him and telling him not to harm. It don't harm anyone for now. Come on. If they step on your shoes, you can't kill him. Yeah, you can't listen. It's disrespectful.

And if someone's giving a flat tire, it almost is like they're trying to like initiate a fight with you almost. But you're right. Just someone's stepping on your shoes. You got to be the bigger man. I mean, you do have to say that he will not apologize and he did it on purpose. that's the question. Yeah.

Do you do kind of have to do something? I don't think you have to do something. I would. I think if you're a grown man, I don't think you have to. I would say that even if somebody comes up to you in public, steps on your shoes and tries to fight you, that you actually don't have to do anything as a grown man. If you're in high school.

You'd go home and you'd feel so bad about yourself all night. I don't think I would. I would feel a lot better than getting into a physical fight with somebody, potentially like, you know, even on the best case scenario, you hurt your hand and maybe get in some sort of trouble, right? But then everybody on the street knows you're not to be fucked with. But these are strangers.

These are not. This is what I'm saying, man. It's like you're not at the fucking shopping mall or whatever. Brian walking down the sidewalk and people crossing the street to like not be near him. That's what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fucking, I run this neighborhood. You step on my shoes.

I kill you. This guy goes, talk to him about it. most things can be resolved by just talking things out. He don't even need to talk to. Honestly, you could say like, hey, man, what's going? You know, like, don't do that. Listen, can I say I had an altercation, a physical, an altercation with somebody very recently. This actually happened to me.

Of course you did. No, this is, I was not in. You're a troublemake. I was at the Canada Qatar game, the World Cup game that I've mentioned before. It was a fantastic experience. But there was this drunk guy behind me, drunk. big sweaty guy Brian it reminded me of he peed his pants did he pee his pants he reminded me of the fish uh the you know whatever that guy whatever we called him the the fish giant and this guy was super drunk

and he a bunch of people took out their phones like to like record something as it was happening in the game right like a free kick or something like that and he was just like what what does nobody have a fucking tv to watch it on what everybody's got to record it on their phone he's just like like he's saying to a guy beside him who by the way is not his friend he's just a guy who sat beside him and who was not into the conversation at all he's like man this reminds me of fireworks this is just like fireworks people record fireworks and i and i just all i said to him was like well i think it's a little different than fireworks yeah like it's like canada's first ever i know fireworks are better fireworks are better and so anyways later on in the game there was a hydration break fuck the

hydration breaks. But this guy started, he started putting his hands on my shoulder really aggressively and like shaking me, like, like, hard, like not in a playful way, like shaking me super hard. And I just turned to him and I was just like, hey, man, can you not like just not put your hands on me or touch me or whatever? And he's like, now I'm going to put my hands on you all game. Oh. And I was like, I said to him, I was like, amen.

I like this guy. Can you get him on the show? if I was there, if I was there, I'd have been like, I'm from America and I will fucking kill you. Yeah, listen, here, show him your license and be like, yeah, we shoot people. I'm from Ohio. But, but I, we talked it out, him and I and we didn't have to have a physical altercation, even though he put his hands on me. Let's go to, did you kiss?

Did you guys kiss? Here's just one little quick post and we'll go to trust. Really quick, Brian, do you think that this person was a paid actor because of the one person who keeps telling you to like stop talking to the players. You think she slipped this guy 50 bucks and it was like, when you fuck with that guy who keeps. We don't need to bring. Listen,

it was a fucking 55,000 people sold out event where it wasn't like that. And by the way, and a lot of people I posted on Instagram about me and every comment was like, oh, Chris, don't talk to the players. Chris leave the players alone. Leave them alone. I want to be clear. They're fucking there for work.

I don't talk to the players regularly. I cheer them on in a normal way. If I noticed them catch eyes with me and I kind of seems like they want to have a conversation. Then yeah, I'll fucking talk. Whatever happens. Some advice. Whatever happens happens, man. I just, I'll tell you what.

You thought about taking it with the other side of your foot. When it comes to talking to the players, I just go with the flow, man. I let them take the lead, all right? Here's just a quick post. This guy goes, I stepped on shit and vomited on my sneakers. So I was on my way back from the local fair to my card. And there was a pitch black street where you couldn't see shit. And there I was walking like a blind pussy.

looking for muggers or something. I stepped on a big-ass dog shit. I didn't know I stepped on shit. Hopped into my car and drove home. Now I sit on the edge of my bed and think, holy shit, it smells like shit in here. Then proceed to flip my young ones and see a big-ass, smelly, nasty fucking shit

and vomit all over my head and shoe. Now I'm sad. Well, fuck. Now that I think about my car's full of dog shit too. Swade got wet. Help. I don't know how to fix. He didn't get a lot of help.

Yeah. Mostly people were laughing at him for barking and shit. you're on your own. You got shit all over the place. You're on your own. I hate stepping in shit. That it sucks. Yeah. We have, uh, we moved to Pittsburgh and there's a lot of deer in our backyard. And, uh, I step in deer shit and it sucks. Yeah, but at least it's just, it's just a little pellets though, right? Uh, sometimes sometimes they're like dog size, not as big as dog, but they're larger than pellet. But it's beautiful to have deer out in the backyard. It really is. It's worth it. Yeah.

It's worth that. Chris eats the pellet poop. Canada stuff. Trust pilot. Nike happens on trust pilot. Nike happens to have 1.6 stars. Holy shit. Can I circle back on something?

Chris makes eye contact with the soccer player and then changes his shoes to like talking, the talking shoes. No. I don't have different pairs of shoes at the game. I just listen, sometimes the, honestly, sometimes the players look bored and they look like they want to have a conversation with somebody.

and like sometimes I'll crack a little joke or whatever. I hate to tell you, but it's kind of cool for them if you think about it because it's like, yeah, they might be a professional soccer player, but they're talking to someone who used to tread the boards professionally and they're getting like almost like a free one-on-one show. Can I picture a title, a job title for you for the team? Energy advocate. Director of joy. No, I don't need that recognition.

I don't need any recognition. I just do it because I'm a friendly guy and I see somebody that wants to have a conversation and they're boring. This guy gave him one star Nike. Nike is absolutely not what it used to be. Nike's absolutely not what it used to be. These are boots.

They're supposed to be rugged. Instead, the glue is completely separating and the upper is peeling right off the midsole. These boots have been worn so slightly, they still look completely deadstock. No puddles, no mud. No rough terrain. Just walking on flat floors inside a store.

They look cool. But the build quality is a joke. You could get genuinely buy a better pair of made boots off of Timo. The worst part is I used to be a loyal supporter. This is why I like these. Because now they're like, and this is the fucking part that hurts. You know? I loved Nike.

I stood down for Nike and defending them even when everyone else was turning on them and boycotting the brand. Wait, when? I think he's talking about Colin Kaepardick. Oh, okay, because I think Nike, I think if you look at Nike's quarterly numbers, I think they've been selling a lot of shoes for a long time. They are on a down swing right now. They are. They are. Has overtaken them, yes.

Is that true? Yes. Yeah, I believe that. It's because of corn. I know. I don't think that's the reason. Because of the bank corn. I noticed, I noticed on the train today, coming back on the train today, I did notice almost everybody wearing Adidas shoes, truly.

Like I did, I noticed that. And I was as well. He goes, they look cool. Oh, he goes, I stood down for Nike and defending him even when everyone was boycotting them. The experience completely opened my eyes. It made me realize that all those people who had a problem with Nike back in the day weren't just spreading bullshit. Their complaints were rooted in fact. When I brought this up, Nike's customer service was shocking.

The employee refused to even look at the shoots. I love that. I won't even look at turning their head. I won't even look at them. I will not look at them. I don't want to see the shoes. Look how tight my eyes are shut. They're shut all the way tight.

I'm not looking at the shoes. They wouldn't even freaking look at them, man. Despite being well within two years of purchase, when I was visibly flabbergasted by the lack of help and told her I'd let everyone know the truth about what's going on here. I would pay so much for that camera footage. That's CCTV of just him going like, are you kidding me?

What? You can't treat me a customer? I stood down for your company when the heat was on. And you treated me this way? What does that mean that he kept wearing the shoes? Yeah, that's what it made. That's exactly. I don't like Nike's and he was like, you're full of shit.

No, he didn't even say that though, Brian. Kevin's right. He just said, oh, no, I still like him. I still wear my shoes that I thought. Yeah, I still wear my shoes. Like, that's all that it means. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's like, when I was visibly flabbergasted by the lack of help and told her, I'd let everyone know the truth about what's going on here. She actually laughed at me. Well, here I am, keeping my promise. She actually laughed at me. That's incredible. I love it when a guy gets laughed at by a worker. Me too.

That should happen every time somebody gets like this. Because listen, the thing I learned covering the sneakers, it was really pronounced. I think it's been pronounced over the years that I've seen this. I've noticed this. When we talk about collectors, they really, really, really think that like the warranty is going to save them no matter what. A guy says he's had these shoes for eight. This guy didn't, but I read a lot of guys.

They had these shoes for 18 months. They should have lasted two years. I'm trying to get my money back. They won't give it to me. It's like, they don't give you the money back, dude. It doesn't fucking happen. You know, that's not a thing that happens. They have a one year warranty on Nike.com if you order, it's one year.

But, but it's one year from when the shoes entered the warehouse. No, I'm not sure about. I know that I have had shoes. That's what people are mad about. I've had shoes like a pair of Air Max 90 Gortex shoes that I returned that like fell apart kind of. And they took them back. They gave me a full refund on them and it was like nine months later. So there's just like a cutoff time.

But it's a refund king, Chris. Sorry? You're the refund king. I feel like I've heard a couple stories of you calling a place and them giving you your money. When did I get her? What's another? I never called anyone just to be clear. You just send them a note.

You just send them an email saying, a letter. There's a, there's a warranty on them. That's all I think. Wasn't like a shirt or something? I don't think I've gotten, I don't think I've gotten. I don't know.

I think you're the refund king. He's a refund guy. You know what? I don't want to be known as a refund king. And I don't think it's accurate. You put the fun and refund king. Mr. Cheapy refund. That's what we're calling you.

Mr. Cheapy refund. Don't say that's what we're calling you. Straight out of the straight of your phone news. Hey, listen, Kevin. Hey, Kevin. You piece of guard. garbage Kevin this is a main feed episode do not say stuff like that on a main feed episode where people are going to start calling me this forever and ever okay mr tb refund

save it for the bonus or the stream it has to happen on here the most disgusting patria yeah and he goes he goes uh well here i am keeping my promise save your money and buy from a brand that actually respects its customers and stands behind its problems I'm done with Nike for good. Nike Carbon React SFS cheapest piece of shit. I lost $137 on this piece of garbage. Chivalet. That does sound like a chivalet rant straight up. Biggest piece of garbage ever. Laurel gave it one star and goes, I bought a pair of shoes at Nike and the air bubbles underneath the shoe got damaged. I called to report what had happened and to my great surprise, the corporate supervisor did not assist me in getting my shoes repaired. I'm very disappointed.

it with Nike and I will not buy any shoes from Nike again. So again, again, I feel like maybe it's different than Nike.com. All I remember is that like they send you like an email like on the thing when I bought them. They like said the thing and I had the warranty in the email. So I sent an email and they just said, yeah, we'll give you a refund. So I think these people. Mr. Cheapy refund. Mr. Cheapy refund.

I think these people are outside the warranty. Like I think this is going to start his own blog now and be like, hi. I'm Mr. Cheapy Refund. Here's the latest cheapy refunds I've got. Hey, here's how you can game the system. Can I tell you? Listen, I make a million dollars doing it.

Yeah. Use YouTube channel. Yeah. I, I may regret telling you this. mentioning this story because it sort of does, but I bought a pair of Rayban sunglasses recently. You bought a coat too. What?

You also got a refund on a coat? what do you mean when coat over the winter no I didn't Lulu lemon coat mr. cheapy refund I never got a refund we all remember that I still have

sounds familiar Brian I know we all I still have the coat I have that coat anyways I'll go back to the record and I they say there's a thing where you can buy you pay this extra amount of money and then you can return them in a year even if they're broken

oh so like it doesn't matter what happens and I got it because I was like, I sort of damaged glasses a little bit. You know what I mean? Like I sort of like I'm a little rough on them. They're easy to. Yeah. And I just thought to myself, I'm just going to, at 11 months, I'm just going to break them and get a new pair. Yeah.

You know? Like, I don't know. That seems like a pretty smart maneuver, right? Unethical. Hey, that's maybe unethical for you. That might be unethical for you, but they don't call me Mr. Cheapy refund for nothing. I know a couple tricks. A couple tricks up my cheek sleeve.

A couple tricks up my sleeve and guess what? I'm returning the sleeve for a full refund. Yeah, that's right. I actually ordered a sleeveless shirt. You got it all wrong. I returned my shirt in threes. I gave them each sleeve and then the rest of the shirt. Yeah, that's a cool thing.

You return each sleeve for a full refund and then you return it and say, No, it was always a sleeveless and you get what's known as a triple reefy. I call it a triple reef. Trippy Reefy. Trie. Mr. Treepie Reefie. This guy went to the Adidas.

Went to Adidas.com. He goes, like sliding my feet into a medieval torture device which squeaked with every step, made my feet sweat. And when it rained, it's like shuffling through cold porridge. Cack. It's like shuffling through cold porridge. He's from Great Britain. Oh, I see.

Oh, it's like suffoling to great porridge. Oh, my God. That's one of the worst accents I've ever heard. That's your most offensive accent. Yeah, that's somehow the worst and most offensive accent you've ever done. I will say that, like, yeah, I mean, listen, I live in a place where it rains all the time, too. If you wear shoes that are not waterproof,

then they're going to get wet. And if it's, like, wet enough and it's raining enough, then your feet are going to get wet. That's why they have waterproof shoes. Yep, and that's why I wear waterproof shoes. I do too. I mean, I buy sometimes like during the rainy season, I'll buy vese shoes. They're a local Vancouver brand and they're fully waterproof.

I buy pussy shoes. Okay. They're a local brand. And if you wear them, you get a lot of pussy. Yeah. Ben gives them one star and goes absolutely no essence of customer service. If, and it's a big end. If you can get the website to work and accept your order, then the products are fine.

But if you have some sort of issue, then you'll be laid a merry dance in being asked the same questions over and over until you eventually lose the will to carry on. I guess that is their model. Ignorance into submission. Oh, this guy sounds awful. British. Yeah. Yeah, what's with all these British people? That's who uses it, brother.

That's who uses a trust pilot. Oh, okay. Here's a question on Cora. I received a pair of fake Jordans. I really like them, but I can never wear the shoes because of other people judging me. How do I ignore them? I mean, I think it's just a question. You just do it.

You just ignore them. You got to get some advice. You're not giving them any advice. Or just deny it, probably. I'm sure that's what most of them do is just deny it and be like, no, these are real. These are real? Or like, I guess it depends on the circles you're running in. right like again i don't think anybody all i would fun of them i would never get into a situation

where if i was wearing a fake pair of shoes somebody would like call me out and make me feel really bad about it if you're around me i will yeah but we're not around each other very often cheapy refunds got the rep shoes yeah that's right well oh oh so you've never heard of the old actually i don't have fake jordan's you know what i do this is a little trick this is a little trick because what I do is I get the fake Jordans and then I order the real Jordans. And then I tell the Jordan Company, oh, my God, there's something wrong with these. I got to return these and I return the fake ones. Now I got myself a pair of real Jordans for the price of the fake one.

That's a little... That's really funny to picture the Nike being like, why do we keep sending out fake Jordans to customers? And that's the Mr. Cheapy refund tip of the week. Oh, yeah. you know I got to use different fucking email addresses because they're all they know cheapy refund that can't send them cheapy refund they know cheapy refund they're checking your IP address no it's not for my app no they know my original address which is chris at cheapy refund dot com my website you shouldn't use you should not use your website this guy goes literally don't care what other people say you can

wear whatever you want real or fake and no one can tell you what to put on your body and at this problem for shoes. If you like them, wear them, I don't think people really pay attention to those things. And strangers will basically just forget you after one minute. You won't see them again. So go on. Wear those Js. So.

Yeah, that's good advice. That's a good advice. Who cares? Again, it just depends. If you're like, if you're going out to like a nightclub or whatever, constantly, you're going out to the night club and you're like, you hang out with a bunch of sneakers. It's shoe night. It's shoe night.

It's shoe night. It's shoe night. It's cool shoes. It's cool shoes. at the local batting cages or whatever. And if you hang out with a bunch of people who are really into sneakers and you're like, you guys talk about your sneakers,

I just, yeah, I can't imagine that ever coming up where someone's like, are those fake? And like, give me hard time. Go ahead and step on them. They're fake.

That's what I would say. Yeah. The Adidas original store in Vancouver, British Columbia, which I've been to. Oh, Brian and I went shopping there together.

Yeah, and I've been there too. I recently went there. That's where I actually bought my shirt that I wore at the live show. What live show? The Toronto live show that we did. Oh, we did one?

Yeah. This guy goes one star. If that big Asian manager is still in there, I just remember how sad mean he was. What? Okay. I don't know. Now imagine you're the big Asian manager. Wait, which one is that?

Is that the one on Robson or a Granville? I think it's, I think it's, there's two stores and there's one on Granville. Well, yeah. And does that one have a big Asian, a big sad Asian manager? Do you know them? Yeah. Yeah. I know the big sad agent.

He cries on my shoulders when I come in to do a refund. Yeah, he knows me. Oh, you don't like the shoes. No. It's really sad when I return my shoes for a full refund. I, I don't, I've never encountered it. I don't know when that reviews from, but I do shop in that store. It's maybe the store, like those two stores I go into the most because I'm really into

Adita stuff now and I've never seen a large Asian manager period let alone a sad one or yelling one of the two this guy goes one star lazy and disrespectful went right after work to return an item and it was only 6.57 p.m.

And the door was already gone. Oh come on man. I mean give him a break you gotta be there. You can't be like that. You got to be there with like you know 10 minutes. If it's 6.50 and it closes 7 maybe. But after 6.55. You're not in and out in three minutes, buddy.

Yeah. I'm being honest to. I'm going to be honest to if you're looking at your fucking watch. I mean, watches can be three minutes off. Well, not anymore, really. Because you know, you're going off your phone and we've mostly got our time synced up. Have you guys done watch guys? Nope.

No. We would never will. Oh, okay. No, we have a lot of respect for them and we would never. That's why. Yep. That's why? Yeah.

Because there was an employee by the door. So I just said, I need to return it. item and I'll be quick. He didn't even say a word, just shrugged and left. The other female employee by the clothes racks just stood there laughing. But again, I love when they get laughed at. I do. It's my favorite fucking thing when a customer gets laughed at for being a customer. Yeah, because if you're mad as a customer and then they laugh at you, oh, he goes, hours of operation is from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m., which means you guys should be working until 7 p.m. If these lazy employees don't plan on work until 7 p.m., then the hours of operation and their weight should be adjusted.

Hate this so much. What do you mean their weight? They're still working until 7.30. They probably work until 730. You know what I mean? They have to do clothes and stuff like that, right? Like, it's not like they don't leave. I expect their pay to be docked for three minutes.

Yeah, I expect it. Yeah, you should take, you know, you should take $4.76 off of their paycheck for this. Off of all. That's how much it would be for all of them. their paychecks. And it goes, such a waste of time, and I hope they get replaced.

I don't even know what that means. I mean, there's a high turnover in retail, so they probably will. This guy goes, unacceptable behavior. So stupid at the same time. My wife bought three pairs of three different packs of socks for me.

At home, I tried them on. Okay, flex. Yeah, come on three socks. At home, I tried them,

but unfortunately two of the three were not wearable. I don't have any idea what that means. I can't. Like they didn't have the holes in them? They're upside down and he can't figure it out. He's trying to put them in the wrong end. Honey. He's like, these are not wearable.

Yeah, what does not wearable? What does not wearable socks mean? Honey, my socks aren't wearable anymore. Like, what does that mean? I have no, he doesn't explain it either. Not even a picture. Not even a fucking picture. Yeah, that's a little.

For Mr. Sheepie refund. Just saying great video. You calling customer service and saying, these socks are not wearable listen i just want to be clear kevin you've got it all wrong it's not a it's not like a goofy prank channel where i'm doing pranks this is a serious advice on how to get refunds and game the system in the in the in the in the difficult retail landscape a collab with andy elliott yeah yeah yeah or mr cheap mustache remember that guy mr money mustache i don't get him well he was the cheap he like he's got to do stuff cheap and you mr cheepy refund and mr money

my stash in the same fucking video. Oh my God. That's why. I'm going straight to the bank. And then I'm going to return something. Yeah, I'm going straight to the bank and telling him to put a stop payment on my credit card. I get scamming on the retailer. Hi, Mr. Bank. I won't be needing this.

My credit card. Oh, shit. He goes, we went back to the store to return to socks. Guess what? No return. No refunds. Said the person in charge. Okay.

we left the socks on the counter, not a question of money, a question of principle. Oh my God. Just to be, I don't want these unwearable socks. So you go ahead and keep them. I don't even need the money. I'm doing fine and money, but I want to make this point here. This is the, this is the worst kind of guy. This is the worst kind of guy.

He didn't. They don't care. They never thought about it. They threw them straight into the garbage. Or they're reselling them to someone who knows. how to put socks on their feet. These socks are difficult. Hey, I bought a pair of socks.

They're very difficult. Did not come a direction. See, that's, it's really confusing because he said two out of the three. So one of the pairs was wearable. One of them was totally fine. Which leads me to believe it wasn't the wrong size or anything like that. I bet it was the wrong color. No, but that doesn't mean, that's, that's a weird way to describe the not wearable.

But he's saying not wearable. Oh, but maybe it's not a pack of three. And maybe it's three separate individual pairs of socks because I just know the Adidas socks come in a pack of three. Well, this is for the Nike factory store in Pittsburgh. This guy gave it three stars and he goes, shocked to find out the highest cotton content that they carry in socks is 67%. Oh, what the fuck? Are you kidding me? Well, fellas, I'm moving back to L.A.

Where the cotton is plentiful. at least 75% comment that is a crazy thing to say like that right there is one of the weirder posting and this guy goes honestly I love this this is from six years ago honestly this review has nothing to do with Kaepernick okay okay I think great first line yeah the store may have a lot of choices for adults but don't expect anything for kids there are more kids Nike kids selection at dicks and for less the the discounts are not worth the trip for adults either Amazon wins that game too if you don't believe me load any of the barcode apps and compare for yourself oh and I'm officially boycotting Nike now that's a whole other story

okay that is about Kaepernick related that is that end part is Kaepernick related and then finally this guy goes I'll never just another item from Nike. Their political views are disrupting their decision making. When I want to buy something, I don't want to be thinking about politics. Thumbs down to them. You can just buy it and not think about the politics. No, you have to think about the politics.

Yeah. These politics are, these colors don't run. Mm-hmm. Let's see here. This guy asks, is it okay? He doesn't want to think about the politics because they made like a rainbow swoosh for Pride Month and he was like too political. Yeah, that's really what these.

guys, I mean, these guys are really, it's because they're always thinking about that, right? So then they're like saying, like, I don't want to be thinking about that when I'm buying the thing. But the reality is they're always thinking about it. They just don't want anything that goes against the politics that they believe. They just like, and they don't want to be like, you know, they don't want to be down at the fucking bar or whatever. And they're wearing a thing. And they're just like, oh, you got that, you're wearing the Nike. You see that pride thing that they did?

I don't know why I'm doing. You shouldn't have that accent. Yeah. That's how they all sound. And then their friends will kind of make fun of them or whatever or like look down on them. That's what the big thing is. Brian walks up in what he called his pussy shoes and it's like, hey, what's that? I wear the Trump shoes.

Oh, yeah. Those are awesome. They're cool. You think any sneakerheads bought the Trump shoes? Oh, yes. They did. 100%. Yeah.

They don't even like Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Like just like they're like probably some of them. do, but some of them probably are just like, oh, man, this is like a, this is a fucking badass sneaker for my collection. Yeah. So, uh, I'm going to go back here to, uh, the guy that, I want to go back to the guy that doesn't wear all of his shoes. Because I have this guy that goes, uh, okay, my guy, you're doing it right. I see a lot of new drops. So I'm assuming a few of them

are the ones that are still bricks. I think bricks are bad shoes. That makes sense. Because I I think Nike really is that the resale market for Nike is going down the tubes according to these guys. And a lot of them think that means it's a good time to buy a lot of Nike's. Buy low. But I don't think that at all. But you never know. I mean, the way that these things go, it does go up and down, right? Like things become in style, out of style.

I think like for a while, maybe people were wearing more new balance shoes. those became, you know. That was white supremacists. No, that's not true. There's all kinds of people. No, it's not, don't, that's not true. There's, maybe that's true. I remember.

But there was a lot of, you just would see more New Balance shoes. And then now it's Adidas. And I just feel like Nike will come back probably. I feel like sports have something to do with it too, like maybe with the Olympics or like the NBA finals and stuff. Yeah. I could be, I could be totally off. But I would imagine like cultural events when like there's a good, I don't know, know, like branding, for lack of a better word, of like, man, those shoes look fucking sick on that.

Yeah. Track runner or whatever. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I mean, definitely the NBA is a big thing of that, right? Like, then the players that they became become big, like Steph Curry, I think did new balance shoes. And so they're like, when a player is like the player, the guy, then their brand of shoe, whatever they have, that becomes popular. I just want to skateboarding stuff.

Like, I'm not a good skateboarder, but I will watch skateboard. videos on YouTube and then we'll look at the shoes of like back those shoes a lot of time it is new balance and Nike and Adidas and stuff and I'll just be like yeah these are great I want a pair of them just because I wore DCs for years oh yeah those are DC Shuko yeah he goes I see three sneakers that look exactly the same so he's talking about this guy's picture like you could do some trimming and not feel it I don't want to get rid of nine none of my sneakers I feel like it'll hurt I have a crazy amount of sneakers too not as much as you but not too far off either i don't do it on a monthly cycle i just make sure i wear everything i don't even care if it matches my outfit sometimes for me

it's i want to stunt these today i don't care what others think about the fit sometimes i wear a bad fit in my head and still get compliments oh i don't even care about the fit because it's like honestly even when i think i'm doing a bad job i'm actually people think i'm doing a great job still and look great They call me Mr. Stylish. Yeah. Not cheapy refund. I want to stunt these today. He goes and still get calm.

And obviously some of my shoes are only getting touched probably twice a year and others over 10 times a year. Two categories. One heat, two trophies. Heat can be the majority that you don't mind throwing on a few times a year. And trophy is going to be your rare pairs of your favorite pairs that you'll barely wear but we'll throw on to feel good about owning and wearing. So that guy.

uh doing that was unintentionally me with the basketball shoes because i like but they were so unique that i was like oh these are cool but then i felt so uncomfortable wearing them because no matter what i wore i just looked insane with them so they be they would be one from like trophy to like i just can't wear these yeah yeah this guy uh this is just pure addiction he's got some louis vatans he's got some christian lou boutin shoes this guy's got tiny feet yeah they are He probably got the smallest penis in town. They're called him Mr. Small penis. This guy goes,

Oh, okay, creative bunch around town, eh? Yeah, that's what it is. Me and the boys. We walk around town saying, hey, Mr. Small penis. Hey, look, it's Mr. Small penis. He's got a little tiny peep. This guy goes, those lubs are so uncomfortable. I've always found Loub to be pretty cool.

God, it's 8 o'clock p.m. where Brian is. he is just getting hornier and hornier as this episode goes on. I'm jacking off. Come on, man. This guy goes background, but the OP replies and goes, ain't they though? I've tried dick socks,

inserts, and nothing helps. Only that it kind of helps is just take these motherfuckers off in the car. Oh. My best recommendation, take these things off. Yeah. Do not wear them.

I just wear them outside of the car. Well, guys, I think, you know, guys nights is over because I'm out of stuff. Okay. These shoe guys are boring. Well, they were pretty fun. I had a good time. I know.

I do have one other review, but it's crazy. Okay. Yeah, real, real quick. This guy, he says no and just ended the episode. This is this guy and his name's Rasta Dragon. Ooh. He's refuting on Trust Pilot. Dear Nike executive customer relations team.

I'm submitting this formal. complaint regarding the handling of order CO-15856-3-7-823 and the unacceptable level of customer service I have received. Immediately after placing my order for two pairs of shoes, I attempted to cancel one pair that I no longer wanted, I was informed that because more than 15 minutes it passed since the order was placed, cancellation was not possible and I would need to wait for them to be delivered and then return the unwanted item. I followed not.

Well, yeah. It's a little bit annoying. It is. you've got to figure that's like, hey, wouldn't you not want to do that Nike? Right? Like, wouldn't you not want to ship it out and do all of that? Like, isn't it more of a hassle on everybody? Shouldn't you Nike, the big corporation, have something in place to like allow that to.

Prevent it for more than just 15 minutes. Yeah, come on. 15 minutes is a short amount of time. But how did this guy, discovery, bought an extra pair of shoes? Yeah. I'm not sure. Like, what's that about? I bought two pairs of shoes and I was like, actually, you know what?

I only need one. Let me just cancel that real quick. I've only done that a couple of times. I was part of an elaborate route to get all of my money back. I bought seven pairs of shoes, returned to eight. Yeah, you just got to start fucking with them, just ordering a bunch, really throw them a curveball, get them off their feet.

And then you can fucking, then you can strike and get so much cash out of these people. Yeah, make a fucking not. During this time, I have contacted Nike customer service on numerous occasions. every interaction has resulted in the same response, that an investigation is ongoing. No one has been able to explain what has happened to my return, provide a realistic time frame for resolution, or offer any meaningful assistance. From my perspective, Nike has either lost the returned item or failed to process it correctly.

Regardless of the internal issue, it's unreasonable to expect a customer to wait indefinitely for a refund while repeatedly receiving generic responses. What is particularly disappointing is that I've been a loyal Nike customer for more than 20 years. Throughout that time, I've spent thousands of pounds on Nike products and I've always trusted the brand. This experience has completely undermined that trust. I find it acceptable with that. Now we've got a bullet point list. He finds it unacceptable. That one, I was unable to cancel an unwanted item shortly after purchase.

Two, I was instructed to return the item instead. Three, the returned item has apparently gone missing. four more than two weeks later I'm still waiting for my refund five customer service has been unable to provide any meaningful update or resolution I am requesting now we got another bullet point

oh shit one an immediate update on the status of the investigation Jesus I love the idea that there's an investigation ongoing like I want to talk to the lead detective enough on this like I want to get to the actual yeah the lead shoe detective

It really did feel like, he's like, I've been a Nike customer for 20 years. And it's like, yeah, you and every adult. I know. Like anybody who's been, like, everybody's been buying Nike since they were, you know, like it's such a, it's not like the same as saying it at another place. Like, I've been coming to your establishment. I've been buying jeans my whole life. Yeah, guys did say stuff like that.

I've had a car my whole life. Yeah, no shit, dude. Well, anyway, that is sneaker guys. Kevin. we just did your show and it was one of the most fun times I've ever had on a podcast. I had a blast. It's not even out yet. It's not even out yet.

You're using the guy's model early on where you record and then you put it out far in advance. But you're doing it and it makes sense because you're starting your show. So you're trying to get a little bit ahead and get yourself set up. That's right. It's coming out soon. I'm having a show called Letus Cook where I spend a month learning the hot. of my guest that something I've always wanted to learn, but they haven't. And then I do a bunch of Patreon episodes, all loosely themed around that. So my first guest is Mike Mitchell. It comes out

July 2nd. He wanted to learn chess. In my episode with Brian and Chris on Patreon, we created rules for an insane chess club. And we wrote a welcome note to the new members. And it was one of the funniest recordings I've done. It was really genuinely fun. I can say that, like, I remember leaving that recording and talking to Ariel and just being like this is this was really fun like Kevin did a really good job of like setting it up a thing that was easy to make very funny. Thank you. And it, well, the only thing I would say is I know you did one with the go off kings, right? Yeah.

We like that. Now, can I just request one thing? You don't have to. It's your podcast, but is there any way that ours can come up before theirs? I do make a big deal about that being the first episode, but I can lose. all that stuff. And honestly, I could just can the episode too.

Just get, no, hey, Kevin, I didn't want to say that, but that's really what I was going for. We'd rather you just didn't do anything. We'd rather you did.

Can we come on regular? Can we just do all the Patriot episodes with you? I would love that. I would be, we're not in the goo crew. We're not in the goo crew. Yeah. Yeah.

They won't let us. That's kind of why I thought I was like, we're all not goo crew people. They won't let us. They won't let us. They won't let us cook. They won't let us cook in the goo crew. No,

it was. obviously the golf kings i'm sure who knows what they probably did some stuff and it was probably a bunch of naked cartoon characters they probably did some perverted stuff whereas ours i guess ours was kind of perverted as well one of the rules that i remember is don't annoy the babes that worked there yeah we're really into babes on this show lately and next week you guys are going to meet a lot of babes but oh yeah we did s n l guys guys is a babes positive show to be honest. Absolutely.

And the reason is, the reason is, there's a reason for it. When the chive got rid of the chive vets, we're like, now there's a hole in the fucking market. There's a hole. And so we got the guys zets and look out for them on our website. The guys, babes. The guysets, they're just guys babes. And yeah, we haven't bought it all.

We bring them in. Yeah. Set them down. Then we sit in a chair and we say, you're so fucking hot. Oh, man. I've been on the road. You guys should do a calendar. Yeah.

The guy's bikini calendar. A lot of people, a lot of people in asking about our next merch drop. Here it is, giving you the announcement. We're doing a guysette's, uh, bikini babes calendar.

You're going to plug it after the live show. You're going to show everyone each of the, uh, months. Oh, yeah. And they're only big tittyed woman. Let me tell you.

That's not even true. We got all kind of different babies, but let me tell you, every babe and the, the guy's that's calendar is absolutely hot, man. I mean, these girls are smoking hot, man. Oh, and also, also, they can play rock and roll. Oh, my God.

Every single one of them is an accomplished musician. I want to be, I want to clear by that. They're rocking. They can play rock music. Not, no, not like the type of lady music you would expect Taylor Swift and stuff. This is rock music that these women play. They play guitar. And a bikini.

And I just want to apologize everybody as well. it's my fault that the episode is in the afternoon. Brian's acting so weirdly horny. And so I will make sure we just only do recordings in the morning from now on. I take the full responsibility for that one. That's not going to happen. Now I like doing them at night. The guy's nights.

This is going to be your, listen, if you liked this, too bad. It's the last one that you're going to get. It's the last guy's nights. That's it. All right, boys. We'll see you all next week. Goodbye. Bye.