Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 179 - SNL Guys with Graham Clark and Dave Shumka

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

This week on the show we had Graham Clarke and Dave Shumka from Stop Podcasting Yourself on the show to talk about SNL guys. How about those babes? Did SNL used to be political? What is it like to meet Chevy Chase? There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow Not Even a Show is back (temporarily) https://www.youtube.com/c/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys. Oh. I do that all the time. I'm going to leave that in. Live from. I wanted to do that. Oh. Welcome to guys of podcasts about guys.

I'm Brian. And Chris is here. He's now looking at me like I should have done what I said I had wanted to do. Yeah. I mean, you just very rarely do like an interesting intro anymore and the idea that you have. Hmm? I'm quiet quitting.

Oh, I see. I see. I think you've given up on everything. Well, you're, listen, I don't want to date this episode, but you are very stressed out because you're going to see one of your heroes tonight, Steve Hofstead, or do stand-up comedy, and you've got all your heckles ready.

And you're just, you just want to, you're just worried that it's not going to go that well for you. I just don't want to get there late and you know what happens. You guys, both of our guests do as well, by the way. Both of them, one of them, I think, one of them is definitely, still does stand up. One of them does not do it anymore, but did do it at one point. So you know if you show up late to one of these standup shows, you better be ready to get absolutely eviscerated by the guy on stage. And that's what Brian's really concerned about. Yeah. And our guests this week are from stop podcasting yourself, Graham Clark and Dave Schumka. Hi, guys. Hello. Whoa. Whoa. You guys, you guys really have been doing this a while. You guys, you guys really know how this podcasting thing works. I would love to say I brought in two legit, you know, comedian guys to do S&L guys. Like I was like, oh, we got them coming on.

We'll do S&L guys. It'll be awesome. Maybe they've even met some of the people. You know what I mean? Yeah, almost certainly they've met some of the people. That's not what happened. Somebody sent me a link to a story about Kirk Hammett from Metallica. Yeah.

Okay. wearing a Taylor Swift t-shirt on stage and people getting mad about it. Okay. And I clicked that link and I went there and one of the subredits that was recommended to me was Babes of S&L. Nice. I ended up on that page for a while. Oh, yeah. All of a sudden it was like 7 p.m.

And I'm like, I haven't had that dinner yet. I said, wait a minute. There might be something here. and then it just all fell into place after that. But yeah, I just, I went to the, the, I ended up, I was on babes of S&L for a long time. And is it like, it's all babes? So it's like hosts and cast members as well? It's mostly cast members.

There's a few hosts. Like they'll have like Janine Garofalo on there sometimes or something. Oh, that's not what I mean. No disrespect to Ms. Garoflo. That's Lindsay Lohan from 2012, which. Okay. I know how old she was then, but they do have her on here. She was definitely legal by then.

Yeah, she was legal for sure. Thank you. Thank you. We had a countdown clock. It's, yeah. It was, uh, actually, countdown clocks and you know it. The last countdown clock was the Olson twins.

And that was pre-9-11. Yeah, that was before the towers fell. When everything changed when the towers fell. But I like to ask the guests, I've become more of a professional host myself. Brian hates it. But I like to ask the guests like what do you get? Did you guys watch SNL? Do you still, what is the last time you watched SNL?

Would you consider yourself an L guy at all? I, Dave here, I would say I watched SNL every week from maybe 1990 to 2015. Wow. Wow. And I'm back on it. I had to let my kids grow up for 10 years and now I'm back on it. Are you being serious? Are you being serious?

Yeah, I watched like the last few. weeks of this season. I hear it's good, kind of. Well, listen. And one thing I'm really hearing a lot. Tons of babes. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it might have something to do with the source of where you're getting the

information. But I do know, I mentioned on a bonus episode, I've been listening to this podcast called Joy Tactics with these guys and Jack Ben Singer on there who's really funny. Go check out Rap World with Connor O'Malley and him and Eric Ray. Hill. But he's a writer on SNL now and he's like one of the funniest guys. So it makes sense they have funny writers on there.

Sarah Sherman is on there as well. She features heavily on the babes of SNL. They're writing the babes really well. Yeah. She features. And listen, that's the weird part because that's the first person I've ever spoken to in my whole life

that got called a babe, ever. Okay. Okay. Okay. Because you know, Sarah a little bit. I've talked to her. I don't know her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so, and now you think every person you've ever met in your life, none of them have ever been called a babe? That's actually, think about some of the people, people get called these days anyway. Some people have been on the podcast. Maybe now they're like, oh, man, you know. No, there's been some babes on the podcast. It's different for me because I went to school with the Swedish bikini team. That is,

see. See? And these people, I'm on the page and. Me too. are you on babes of SNL? It's fantastic. See you later. So I just thought I would like bring it up and read some of the comments. But you have other stuff as well, right? We're going to read only comments. Here's this one.

Annie Magliano. Anya Magliano. She's UK S&O. Oh, yeah. That's something that they're doing now is different countries have their SNL now. I've seen it on like prime video or whatever. everyone I'm scrolling through that's that's a very hmm Dave can tell you that Dave can tell you that there was a Quebec war version of S&L for yeah S&L Quebec ran for 10 episodes about 10 years ago

and that one and I I cannot even imagine how much blackface that had it to shout up to our Quebec law listeners very very racially heavy duty and Quebec comedy no that only made it 10 episodes though no yeah i don't know why i do wish they do s nl ohio why not i mean it kind of is right it's not like yeah i feel like it's like it's like uh i just lost everybody for a second um i feel like it's kind of meant for middle america famously right SNL, like it's it's meant for everybody across the country. It's meant to like yeah for it. Yeah, for anyone to watch. Well, this guy, the first comment on Anya Magliano's is just a guy saying yes. Okay. The next guy did a heart emoji. Then the next guy said those legs behind a desk.

But that's not where you'd want to see the legs is the desk hides the leg. No, but that's what they're saying. They're putting her behind a desk with those legs. Oh, they're Say, like, this is a big mistake. And this is British S&L. So those legs behind the desk, pity. I'm not chuffed about that at all. Yeah. And then finally, this guy goes, Cambridge educated, funny and beautiful.

God does play favorites and I'm talking about her, man. Oh, you know. You are not talking about Stephen Hawking? The comment under a photo of her. We know what you're talking about. They're so funny. I do have other stuff. I mean, we like that.

There's like, we cover some cover bands that and there's the Iron Maidens. They're great, by the way. You wouldn't think that they'd be good because they're women, but they are good. That's what a lot of the reviews say. Like, surprisingly, they could actually do rock and roll music, which I wasn't expecting. But a lot of the comments, they like to say, like, these girls are talented and beautiful, you know. Yeah. I feel like this is the same sort of thing.

like I'm giving her a compliment, but I'm making sure that I'm also objectifying her at the same time. I never wanted those on comedy club comment cards. He's funny, but also quite beautiful. This is Chloe Feynman. Okay, I know her. I know her. You're going to hear a lot about her. This guy goes, never disappoints. Hope she does nudity soon. This guy goes, and this is good. I like her hips, like Sarah chalk. She had a jock from like She's from Roseanne earlier Then she was on scrubs right

Okay we don't need her whole filmography This next guy This next guy just says so fine man Oh nice Yeah yeah yeah yeah She was second Becky right Yeah yeah yeah This next guy goes her nude body is

And then he has the sweating emoji And he goes I love how she's not ashamed To be all natural and having a perfect shape I like that it's like he's sort of framing it as like I love that she feels comfortable with it but that's not the reality you are horny for it makes you feel horny. All right we can get this some real we can get this some real freaks. I mean those guys are the biggest freaks. Yeah those guys are the biggest freaks I would say.

And I have way more of that. The horny viewers and sorry Graham. Yes. Are you an SNL? Did you watch SNL? I watched it very much in my teen years. and like kind of I lost interest once I discovered Mr. Show. That was okay.

That's fair. That's fair. But yeah, I love the I love the cast that was on when I was in junior high high school. Yeah. And this is from at our slash live from New York. Is that the main subreddit for it? Okay. This guy goes, lived in Temecula half my life.

I don't get the Lisa from Temecula skits. Are we bad people? is temecula known for something that i'm just not getting i never knew temecula mattered much despite how much the town has grown in the past 30 years yes we have a casino and a little wine country area but that in no way should have quote put us on the map in my opinion also none of what seems to matter much it none of that seems to matter much in these skits from the two that i've seen Lisa from Temecula is just a weird quote extra person. I suppose there's a few of those in town, but I don't really go out much to restaurants.

So maybe that's why I just don't get it. Literally putting in your review, I don't get out much. I'm a hermit. So I have no expertise in this whatsoever, but I don't feel like that character. Yeah. I don't see that character around my home, which is the only place that I ever am. I think it's just like maybe the name or, something right i think it's probably a funny sounding town yeah funny sounding name i think and he's

taking it a bit too seriously i think and he's offended weirdly by this person goes i always thought they used the town name because it sounded funny and no one outside of california would know where it is i love this character so i don't know the character and i'm the character is uh the character is uh uh ego no autumn uh who i think is no longer on the show but she was like a sort of an extra person and she's uh she likes her her steak overcooked and then she just carves like she uh tries to slice it but it's so tough that the whole table shakes guys i'm underselling it but s n l's back actually yeah i go new autumn i'm seeing some people talking about her fine ass queen so gorgeous nice she's very funny she used to be on comedy bang bang all the time i haven't seen

her a lot of like the s and all stuff but she's super funny Bad bitch alert. She looks fuego. That's a guy. That is not me. I didn't say that. And then this final guy just goes, honestly, ego makes me hard. Me too, man.

What that? Appreciate the honest. You're back on babes. I popped back over to Babes of Estenel. When you mention a babe's name, I got to read some of the comments about said babe. Okay. So, yeah, the OP actually did. This guy is like, I've lived in.

SoCal for many years. S&L, New York City comedians seem to have a huge hate boner for San Diego and L.A. They'll go out of their way to make fun of it anytime they can. I guess they're making her from Temecula is related to their random contempt for paradise. And the person goes, yeah, maybe. 100% possible. It's because they hate California. Yeah, I think that one person nailed it as we did.

I think it's just a funny sounding ram. kind of name. That's all it is. Yeah. I remember I read the SNL one of the books. I think it was the like oral history. And one person at one point said, if a character has a funny name,

the sketch is going to suck. I read the book, I think too. Listen to the book. I didn't read it. That's a long book. Yeah, who was? Who did they have reading it? It would be great if it was Don Pardo.

Truly, I have no idea. It was not. I don't remember. But I'll read any of those oral history books. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is, Which some of these SNL baves would give me oral history.

That would be great. This guy, this is a question from live from New York. It goes, can we really say live anymore? Just like MTV no longer has music. We can't say that SNL is live anymore when it relies on so many pre-recorded clips. Oh, I see like the lonely island. But they were always doing those, weren't they? Yes, from day one.

From day one, they had those, like, the short films. There was one guy who did all of those. I know Albert Brooks did a lot of them in the early. Yeah, there was, this has been a thing that's been. There was that claimation guy who got crushed all the time. Yeah, that couldn't have been live. Mr. whatever his name is, right? It's impossible.

It's literally impossible to do that live. So, yeah, I feel like maybe they do more of it now. Again, Dave would have, he's our, like, resident SNL guy here. Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't know if they do it more, but I think it's probably that he doesn't like the the like lonely like those types of things he doesn't like the music video yeah he wants a really long like political 12 minute sketch about the thing that happened in congress that week and that's what i'm looking for yeah yeah i want it to peter the fuck out

he goes i'm not saying i don't enjoy them but the videos have just become more and more common every season has increased their usage maybe competing with tic-tok instagram and youtube I'm sorry. This is, this guy is a show business expert. What do you guys like better? Do you like the, the in studio stuff? Or do you like the video produced stuff? I like the video. Yeah, I would laugh more at the videos than I would. It's obviously going to be better, right? Like they're going to be, you know what I mean? They can do takes on it and stuff like that so they can get it better. They can do like,

it's going to be more. But the one thing that you don't get when you got the videos, you don't get when the cast members start cracking up. Oh, yeah. that I think we all love. Jimmy Fallon was an expert at that. One of the best to ever do it. He was one of the best to do it. And it's like, oh my God, this shit's so funny, they can't even hold it together. And that makes me go crazy. This guy went to read through and rehearsal and he still thinks it funny. He still loves it. A person goes, how do you think they change costumes between sketches?

And then they just go and change costumes. Yeah. But they need the time is saying. but yeah like I guess what they would do is they would they have different cast members in different sketches or whatever right that's the way they would do that they have two live ones in a row then you have somebody who's in that one they don't come out maybe till later in that sketch or whatever and give some time to do it well it's sometimes like at the end some of you'll come out in the where everybody's waving at the end and they'll still be in in costume oh yeah I love that too this guy goes every show there are six to seven live sketches two live musical performance and weekend update, which is live.

But you want to stop calling the show live because these days they do three taped segments per show instead of two. So this is not a popular sentiment. This guy says, have you seen season 10? What about season nine? That also goes on quite a bit. Season 10 and nine, I'm like, okay, whatever.

But when they start saying like, does anybody remember season 27? What was season 9 and 10? That would have been in the 80s, right? Yeah, those are the 80s. I wonder if that had the like Martin Short and Christopher Gast and Harry Shear as the like synchronized swimmers. They couldn't have done that in studio. No.

That's true. This guy goes, it's just the name of the show. We can still say better call Saul, even though there are times on a show or we'd be better not to call Saul. Really bad. That's not a good. One of the worst examples I've ever seen in all the time during the show. That's really good. It's playing against type, you see.

I mean, that's a... Have they considered not calling soul? Yeah. That made me disagree with them. You guys, commercial parodies from the 70s, deep thoughts with Jack Handy. The show is never 100% live. I see where you're coming from. I don't actually.

Like when the guy's like conceding that, he goes, in that the pre-tapes nowadays don't make me laugh as much as the live sketches or or feel as S&Lish as the live sketches do. But it's always been part of the deal. So mature man. Here's here's, this is from Rotten Tomato. I went to Rotten Tomatoes to read some reviews. I love rotten tomatoes. I don't care anybody, anybody says they hate on it. That's how I figure out if I'm going to like a movie and it very rarely steers me wrong.

I'm not joking. Like if it has a certain. where I'll go first. Yeah, if it has a certain percentage of a critic score, you can't, I'm going to go off on one of my rant again. Oh, God. But you cannot go. The audience score has been absolutely compromised by these like bought farm things or whatever. They've like figured out a way to game that. But you can go on the critic score and it will not steer you wrong. What's your threshold? Like what you want to see anything below? It depends on the type of movie. That's a great question, David. It depends on like the kind of movie if it's like a blockbuster or whatever. If it's like a stupid kind of comedy, then I'll maybe lower it because I know the critics tend to be a little harsher on those.

But like, I mean, if it's a 90% or that's a guaranteed I'm going to like it pretty much every single time. If it's getting 90%. That depends on a type of movie because if a movie's 90%, it's some sad bastard shit. You're right. If it's really sad and it's talking about an issue that's really important and that you're not really allowed to give a bad review to, then you have to be a little careful. if it's just like the subject matter is such where it's like, well, you'd be considered a bad guy if you gave a bad

review, then you have to take it with a bit more of a grain assault. Have you done it the opposite way? I've done this several times where I've watched a movie and then I see what the score is and I'm like, sometimes I was like, oh, I'm stupid. Like, I like that movie so much. I'm more of like, these guys are stupid.

You know what I mean? If it's opposite of what I think and I look at it later, I'm like, it's not me. This is stupid. No, I love this movie. I belong in a freaking bot farm. Yeah, you're not allowed to love a movie anymore, according to Chris. Wait, I didn't say that. Or you're a bot.

Yeah, unless it's a woke movie. You go see a movie and it's like some horrible movie and it has like 99% audience score. You'll see this all the time. Trust me, you guys aren't. I can tell you're showing your ass right now. You're barely ever on rotten tomatoes. dot com because you just don't you guys just don't know sometimes it'll be like if they have a high review because there's only three reviews and they're two of the three are like from the christian

science times yes yeah and you got to be careful there because if there's no odd if there's no critics reviews and you don't click through and you just see it on google the rotten tomato score will go to the audience score so it's like if there's also it's like oh it's got 91% and you go and and it's got no reviews from critics and it's just the audience score. I've been tricked a couple times by that. Well, as a man of the people, Tony Hinchcliffe, I am, name of his new special.

The man of the people, which, by the way, not doing super well on Rotten Tomatoes.com, unfortunately. I only follow the audience score. Like, I don't care what the critics have to say. I just go to Ain't It Cool News. Yes, that's a good one.

Okay. Christopher gave us. season 51 a half of a star is that this most recent season i believe it is yes wow i can rarely get through anything except weekend update which is the only consistently funny part of the show two left leaning i miss s and l we're gonna say it's like the most left leading part of it is it not or does she keep it balanced a little bit is is it still shay and joes that are still jose yeah i thought it was always is it not always on the liberals side of things like yes yeah that's the thing it from day one it has been but these people are so like

i guess they did have donald trump on as a sure as a host and they were goofing around with him which isn't the most liberal thing necessarily but yeah i think the politics of it and the writers are generally writing liberal based stuff yeah they also had Elon Musk on yeah but i mean which is an episode i watched that's when i that was when i put my politics aside and i just had a laugh Yeah, I mean, funny is funny. I mean, it's funny. And if one guy knows what's funny, I love that clip of Elon Musk explaining some of the jokes he pitched at S&L.

Oh, yeah, I do remember seeing that. Oh, you really do have to watch it. They're like some of the dumbest, worst ideas you've ever heard somebody saying. So then I said, what if I said poop? It's a lot of stuff like that. It's really stuff like that. It's really crazy, yeah. Like, it would be a good SNL skis.

Like the video of a regular character. And the guy says poop becomes every week he's got to be on and they bring him back just to do that sketch. Yeah, that's mad TV. That's mad TV. You're actually looking, you've taken the wrong turn off. You're looking for mad TV. He goes two left leaning. I miss SNL that berated both sides of the aisle equally and seemed a little more bipartisan.

That's such a funny thing. Is that? Because I don't remember. Maybe they were less political. No, they made fun of Democrats. Yeah, because the president used to be a Democrat. They made fun of them. And they made fun of Republicans.

Yeah. When the Republican is the president. Yeah. Yeah. They always have been political, right? They've always had like Chevy Chase was like Gerald Ford, the idiot or whatever. Chevy Chase. Chevy.

Dan Aykroyd was. Shevalet Chase. Dan Aykroyd was Jimmy Carter but didn't shave his mustache. Yeah, that's my favorite impression. I'm not saving it. They couldn't even give them like a thing. I guess it's hard to cover a mustache. It really is.

This next line just describes the medium that the people are doing. It goes, sketches often just dress up and act funny. With no real punch line. I love the idea. I use fucking sketches. Mostly guys dressing up and acting funny. I mean,

some of them don't have cameras in an audience too. It's like what are they even doing? I mean, I feel like they don't have a point. That is one of the things about. No, forever and ever. Is the sketches go on too long or whatever and they don't have like a good out and they're afraid to do like a really short sketch or it's just not the format. Well, they can't do a short sketch because they have to go change clothes.

Oh, yeah. That's what's going on. That's what's going on. And he goes, time for new writers and better casting as well. They literally bring in new writers every single year I feel like. It's like a constantly rotating thing. He goes, no real standout stars anymore. I miss the 90s.

I think that for other, for like several reasons he. Do you think what the, what the era was that most movie stars came out of? Because I feel like there aren't so much now, but I feel like they were around for a while. There's like every cast member got a movie. Yeah, there's no more superstars out there. But I think they do become famous, right?

That's the whole kind of idea that not ready for prime time players. Like the idea is that these are people, we discover them, we make them famous. But I think, yeah, maybe you're right, Graham less of them become I'm trying to think of who like Beck Bennett or whatever he won't become he'll be in movies and comedy movies yeah but he won't get his own like vehicle or whatever yeah let him on the show hmm can you get on the show we tried to get back Bennett on the show actually you try to get him and Kyle Mooney on the show because they had a new podcast but yeah I mean we

just didn't hear back that's all you know I'm not we don't want to no fucking way I think those guys are so funny I don't want to say anything negative about the half star Season 50 was so good. That's interesting. The extreme changes in the writer's room have caused a horrible mess. It's just plain not funny, childish in the worst way. Time to bring in new writers, but not these ones. No, I hate these writers.

And this is one more from Miguel. He gave it two stars. I've always been a fan of this show. But lately, except for a few sketches, I don't find it as funny as in previous seasons, except for weekend update, which is very funny. The rest of the show's tedious, and even the guests can't save it. In season 50, they brought in a bunch of SNL legends who saved many sketches and episodes, and I say this with great regret.

Well, I think that's nostalgia, right? That's like the thing where it's like, these are the people that I grew up with, and they came in and it was great to see them. It is. It is. This is from Saturday Night Live season 50 when things were better. Yeah. So this is the good season.

one star they keep going to the same dry well of lame political jokes not funny just kind of boring guy that's offended by the political jokes every time every time it's a republican guy that's offended by the political jokes and i love it that because they don't see that in themselves yeah you know what i mean like the guy doesn't see in himself like he's like i can laugh at myself yeah yeah never can yeah i agree i think some of them listen i've seen some of the i don't want to agree with the person posting, but I have seen some of the political ones that are very boring, like the cold open ones, you know, where they don't seem to really do jokes. They just seem to like, like I'm playing this character and I'm just going to actually say a line that they said.

Like I'm not going to do any sort of satire, anything like that. I feel like that's what they did with Sean Spicer. I feel like I didn't know Sean Spicer was and then he was on there and I was like, I'm really missing. I'm missing a chunk of information. Yeah. I do not care about. Sean Spicer. Yeah, yeah, Sean Spicer. He was like around for such a short time. They had Melissa McCarthy playing him, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I think they've kind of felt like they're like, all right, Melissa, just go out there and do your thing, you know? Like they figured she could just carry it, right? Yeah, yeah, because it's, I guess Sean Spicer was on dancing with the stars was his big. Like he got made to look like a fool in the first Trump term. I just don't think they should make fun of. my side that's how I feel too

I feel the same way because I'm a lifelong Sean Spicer guy yeah I only know Sean Spicer as a guy who I had his cell phone number and I used to call him a Raracha that's mostly how I know I did love when you did that kind of stuff

he still does it he says he doesn't do it but he still does I do it every now and then just for the love of the game I don't post it up on the internet but sometimes if someone's like in the news or whatever I'm like, hey, I got that guy's cell phone number and then I'll call him and harass him or whatever. My daughter had a problem with a college professor when she first met Chris and Chris was like, I can call her. No, no, that's not how it happened.

You said to your daughter that I could call him. Yeah. And you wouldn't do it. Yeah, because it's a private citizen. I'm not going to just call a person like that lady, you know. She's not a private citizen. She writes for Forbes and she does blue jacket stuff. Like the Columbus Blue Jacket stuff?

Jackets. Yeah. She plays defense. Huge team. Huge team in the NHL. I don't know if you guys have heard of it. Yeah, we've heard. We're struggling a little bit. Our NHL team is struggling a little bit. But I mean, I guess you guys aren't really very strong. You're not a great franchise.

We're great. Half star. Show dropped off to a new timeline. I don't know what that means. It might be timeline. Timeline, I think. Yeah. And it might be time. I don't know.

Poor band choices. Worst writers in SNL history. just lost the funny factor and became a bad train wreck if you have to force your way through to see the celebrity host semi save it entire writer group and cast needs a reality checker to be fired it's disrespectful to old s andl i'd rather get a colostomy unmedicated than watch this news see you guys right now i think around a second does anybody have this person's contact information because i think i know who the next writer needs to be of snell i think if anyone has their contact information it's you somehow. Yeah, some people I think, I love when they show through, like, these guys aren't funny at all. And then they do their version of funny in it. And you're like, oh, okay, I understand why you don't find these professional comedians funny.

Yeah. I also like the standup comedy guys episode was really fun because it was like, listen, I don't think most stand up comedians are that funny. Hey, hey, come on. We're right here. Especially Chris. I'm nostalgic for another episode in the middle of our episode

That happens all the time I liked his comment where he was like the writers need a What did he say? It was like they need to be fired or like have a wake-up call Yeah Maybe do like a prank on them or something Where they believe they're going to be fired or something

Just something else not Or Lauren should just go in and start yelling at them And throw like knock over tables and stuff Yeah Lauren doesn't yell at anyone anymore It'd be nice to see Lorne in more sketches, I think. Yeah, Lauren, I love when Lauren would be part of the cold open or whatever they'd be talking to him backstage. Yeah, he can flex his fucking comedy. Hey, listen, he's a Canadian.

A lot of people forget that. Yeah. Yeah, but he sucks. Touche. Okay. You can have him. We do. We have Chevy Chase.

Yeah, you guys have Chevy. Yeah. Laps have been far and few between. that's him not me i did not get that wrong that was him i did see a guy the other day so like i got to reading uh the comments on stories about jelly rolls divorce yeah and i lost an entire day to that yeah that was really sad we were talking about that a lot when jelly roll what's her name she has kind of a funny name buddy exo that's right yeah and one of the ones one of the ones i read was like well she's, you know, she was an escort, that might have been the camel that broke the straw.

Think about camel that broke the straw all the time now. Because camels probably break a million straws. Anyway, he goes, do not, weekend update and do not destroy are by far the strongest segment. Seemingly, when there is an amiable guess, some of the skits roll along fine, but other weeks barely get by. overall a dud of a season with limp writing with very repetitive political rhetoric and that's how you know why he gave this a bad review again anytime they say the political stuff is lazy it is a thousand percent because they said something that offended what what is the thing he said was okay uh do not destroy on weekend update do not destroy it's called please don't destroy let's just do not destroy i also like that he

said oh it's good when they have an eight amiable guest, like a lot of the guests are just like resistant. No, I don't want to be in any skitschis. I think the only like Steven Seagall, maybe. Steven Seagall, I was going to say. I don't want to promote my thing. Yeah. No, no, no, don't say the thing I'm in.

That's crazy. Because many WTF was that skits. Emile Joachim, Ashley Padilla, and Michael Longfellow have unfortunately had minimal on screen time, while Jane Wickline has proven to be the quote, poor choice higher of the season. He's all sound like made up names. Yeah, I was just going to say this could be all jelly roll. People are coming around on Jane Wickline. Jay Wickline was getting a lot of, uh, she was ice cold at the start of the year,

but she was red hot by the end. Check her out on Babes of S&L. I'll find her real quick. Just give me one second. The Bill Burr episode appears to be the agreeable stinker of the lot, but the Shang Gillis monologue will stand as a classic and uncomfortable bomb, not even the band cracked a smile. Musical guests were poor and bottomed out with arcade fire.

Bringing back some of the old timers for small cameos has been a pleasant yet futile effort. So how does it get millions of viewers? I think lack of options in the time slot, by the way, that is not. Lack of options in the time slot. People have nothing else they can watch at that time. It's not like, I guess elderly people, but they're asleep, aren't they? Like, that's the only people who are like, I get exclusively my television via like live television, you know? Like everyone else can watch whatever.

I can watch whatever I want at 1205. Yeah, there's four networks. And I can watch any of those four whenever I feel like it. I can watch anything. Now, right now I'm watching the new Harlan Coben show. I will find you. It's some of the worst television you'll ever see. And I can't get enough of it.

It's like one of those classic twisty mystery shows. But yeah, I can watch it anytime. Sometimes I'll watch it late at night, early in the morning. Doesn't really matter. And finally, this is just one more half star, really sad and painful to see a comedy legend like Mike Myers crash and burn in such spectacular fashion. Grew up and was proud of his Canadian brand of comedy, which makes the fact that he has recently helped usher S&L from the realm of not funny anymore and into the lower realms of non-mody. That's called non-mody. So was he a, he came on as a host, I guess.

I guess. I mean, he's an older man. Give him a break. I know. And he's taking off the powers four. We're getting what we want. He's 60 something years old. Like there's a few comedians who can kind of like keep doing their thing into late. You know, like Fred Willard is like I think of as somebody who just like can do. But I feel like Mike Myers brand of comedy. It's not really like an old man's game. It's not something that, you know, like I feel like it. It's harder for him to do like Chris Catan. You know, he can't. that brother we'll see about that when awesome powers four comes out is he doing a new austin powers that's what he said yeah yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not so listen i loved austin powers i love mike myers but i'm not super

excited about that when my wills and dana carvey did a super bowl commercial as wayne and garth that was really sad yeah that i'm sure they made a lot of money which is great but yeah i didn't want wayne to grow old yeah that's totally true those are like young guys like young in the basement garage or whatever. Like that's, that really doesn't work and is really kind of sad to see them still having to do those characters. I wish he could just,

and I guess he can't just relax and not doing it. He can just retire, right? He has so much money. He doesn't even need health insurance up there. Yeah, he comes back to see his doctor. Yeah.

I think he lives in America now. Yeah. But I could be wrong. He's also Shrek. He's also. That's true. Shrek. And Chris went to a Shrek.

grave. No, I didn't. I bought tickets to a Shrekrave. Listen, he's making me go see Steve Hofstetter, but he somehow was not able to go to the Shrek Rae. If Steve Hofstetter was at 12 o'clock, the Shrek rave started at 12 o'clock a.m. And I have a toddler and I could not do it. I bought the tickets before I saw what time it started at. And I just couldn't do it. I'm asleep by that time. I would have gone. If it was at 7 o'clock like Steve Hofstetter, I would have been there. I would have had my donkey costume on. I would have been going fucking crazy. I'm going to see Steve Hofster. I have a child.

How about this, guys? I don't have a child. Your child is 22 years old. Still a child. I'll go to any of those things if you want. I don't have a child. So if you want me to go to Shrek rave, I'll go. Graham, there, hey, careful, buddy, because there is another one coming back very soon.

I got an Instagram out for it. I am on board. Vancouver. Actually, there's another kind of, oh, fuck. Steve Hofsteader is coming here as well, by the way, in July. He will be there. The Hofstadter will be there. His first season is a feature player on SNL. Kevin Neeland made $1,500 an episode or $30,000 overall. This is from our slash live from New York and shows a picture of the contract. Oh, really? Oh yeah. Yep. And now we get into a really,

really normal conversation about the cost of living in New York and what is a good wage. And, a bunch of guys try to say they know a lot about show business he goes this guy goes that's roughly 4,500 in today's money the current salary per episode for a rookie cast member today is estimated to be around $7,000

now I don't believe that I don't even I would do I would literally like actually kill a guy for that amount of money for how much is how many episodes do they do 22ish yeah

that's good money They get $7,000 per episode. That's what they're saying. But I don't think that's what they get. But yes, that's what they're saying. I remember like when Will Ferrell was on the cast. I remember hearing it was like $5,000 an episode. Oh, that's so far.

But they make you sign like a seven year contract when you get on. And so you can't, you're stuck with that salary the whole time. That's, or am I crazy? Or is that a really low salary? Yes. It's the reason that they sign you to a contract like that. It's worth it for a person to make shit money for eight years. And it does give you exposure and gives you opportunity to do.

Like, you know, they say, we're going to pay you an exposure. S&L is actual exposure where you could get other TV shows and stuff like that, presumably. But seems, it seems unfair. Well, you don't really need to pay rent because you're up all night writing skits. Oh, yeah. Also true. You don't need a home. You can just live in the studio and out back at the 30 rock.

So does that mean that Keenan has been paid that amount? the entire time he's been on the show. Keenan, are you kidding me? Keenan is making like Chuck Liddell money. Everything to me is like UFC because the UFC fighters get nothing, but then there was, I remember he was one of the first guys that they would, all the money

would, you know, a bunch of money would go to like the big headliners. I imagine Keenan is like that. He's like, he's probably part of the reason why they only pay the other people a small amount of life. And he's probably making, he made a huge amount of money playing Jermaine Jackson and Scary Movie Six.

Oh, he's scary. I guarantee that. He doesn't even have to touch his SNL money. He goes Jay Leno on his SNL money. He just gets by on his. Have you guys seen Scary Movie Six yet? Is that the new, the new drop? That's the new one.

We all, we went to it for, we did an episode for our Hot Life tier. And we watched it. And Brian went to the theater by himself and watched it, which is a horrifying nightmare of an experience. But I went with my friend. It was horrible. And we at least got to like have some. fun kind of looking at each other like what the heck what did that mean why did the epstein files come

out of the lady doing the substance or whatever you know but you can't you can't you know dissect dissect magic you know like you think about it too much and it's like it makes it not funny whereas if you don't think about it at all it's not funny but it's like you're not upsetting your brain and getting all yeah yeah well this guy goes pete davidson said he made three thousand dollars an episode as a new cast member. There's no way a new cast member is now making $7,000 per episode. So they think it's too high. And then a guy replies he goes, they only work on a show for five to six months out of the year, right? And then this is he goes, but it's still per episode. But it's per episode. So regardless of it. Oh, no, they're saying they can do other work though. That's why this guy goes,

yeah, it's 16 hour days for six days a week for six months. But that's it. You can go like, then this, you could go like molons or do whatever in the other time. You're like a Canadian football. ball league player. You could be a fireman in the off season. This guy says, yeah, I imagine most of their off weeks are just taking care of personal stuff and resting. Yep. That's me.

Half the year working, half the year taking care of personal stuff. What's personal stuff? I'm busy with personal stuff this entire week. This guy goes, they pretty much live at 30 Rock on episode week. Production is almost 24 hours a day. And it's like Dave. They get nip craft services. And then this guy.

The thing that Dave said as a joke is now been brought up as a serious point. Oh my God. What? My phone. What is your ringer? S&L. It was a podcast. Oh, my friend Sam Cedar's podcast.

Oh, Sam Cedar from the majority. You were listening to the majority of the show. Yeah. I do listen to it. Yeah. He might come on the show. I mean, we reached out for him to come on the show. But I mean, we all know what happened with Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett.

So let's not get our hopes up. This guy goes, and part of that money goes to managers and PR. That's true. You ever consider that? Yeah. And this guy goes, a lot of new performers are probably living as meagerly as they can. Tina Faye said her first New York City apartment was so small she could sit on the toilet and cook at the same time. Yeah, but that's a preference, though.

She wanted a toilet. Boilet kitchen. Get them in and get some out. It's just more efficient that way. And this guy goes, not a whole lot for what? Are they all planning on buying a ferry? Even in Manhattan, that's like 150% of the median annual income. It's only working for part of the year.

I know comedy performer isn't a profession known for people with rigid financial discipline. But at that level, honestly, it would be hard to live a fun life and actually build savings. in addition to, you know, doing the coolest job in the world for your day job. So there's this point. Yeah, I couldn't figure out what side he was on or what he was trying to say. Well, then this guy goes, I lived in New York City two years ago on Passable two-bedroom apartment for my wife and I in Brooklyn was $4,000 a month. Our combined income was roughly $8,000 a month.

Add in utilities, food, MTA, gym, et cetera. It's not easy to save with the New York City rental prices and also live, one, within a reasonable distance of the city and two in a place that isn't falling apart i feel that we feel yeah well maybe get a one bedroom with your wife and sleep in the same bed as her you that's what i do with my wife yeah you have brian has a big he's he's got like a three-story apartment it's insane it's bedroom not three stories i live in a building square feet but you do sleep in the bed with your with your i do me and my wife sleep in the same bed i want to say i now do that as well for a while i wasn't because we co-slept with Charlie, he would co-sleep in the bed.

And I thought, you know what, maybe I'll just sleep somewhere where I don't get woken up every single hour. So for a little while, I was sleeping not in the bed. But I'm back in my bed, sleeping in a bed. Congratulations. This is the past week for seven nights in a row, I was sleeping on the couch near the back door because a family member of mine was going through some health stuff, and I had to be able to let them out into the yard to have diarrhea.

He's not going to say, which of his daughters it is, but this guy goes, I think every new cast member gets an appearance on the Tonight Show in late night, which is probably an easy $1,000 to walk downstairs for an hour. They probably have most of their meals. Wait a second. What does that mean?

Like, you just, because it's in the same studio, you just walk down and get an easy thousand or whatever. So it's like, it's not bad. I think you've got to get paid more than that to be on the Tonight Show. I don't know. I remember Amy Sedaris said, when she went on Letterman, like, you just get whatever scale, union scale, and it was like $500, and she would use the money from her appearance to buy shoes for her next appearance.

Yeah. That's sad, though. Yeah, that's sad because where's the money, you know, where's the money going, going in Lauren's pocket? Let's be honest. I mean, Lauren is cleaning up on SNL. Oh, yeah, and he produces the Tonight Show. Oh, he, that's, that's, that actually is like, start, you start to think then, like,

what's actually going on here. Oh, a lot of your guys from Messinaw are on the Tonight Show. That's kind of suspicious, right? Yeah. And you're paying them $1,000 to do that? Yeah, no, in all seriousness, yeah, you're, why can't you pay them more? That's a, I mean, they should get paid more probably. Yeah, he goes, they probably have most of their meals provided while they're working.

From what I've read, the lifestyle, something of a continuation of college for the younger cast members, roommate spending ungodly hours late at night with their buddies writing sketches. No real dividing line between work life and personal life. And maybe that was more applicable from the beginning through like the early 2000s. Conan describes it like that. Maybe someday Mikey Day treats it more like a 9 to 5 job. And it's able to have a normal life outside his time at SNL. But even he has a sidegags and cameos and bit parts and other things.

Oh yeah, you can go on cameo.com and you can make all kinds of money on there. I think they beat cameos and movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, think about it. If you're an SNL cast member. I don't think you're not allowed to be an SNL cast member on Cameo. There's no way. But if you're Mikey Day, you can go host, Is It Cake?

I don't know. You probably get a thousand bucks for that. I don't know. It's right downstairs. Is he like a well-known cast member nowadays? He's the host of Is It Cake as well? Okay. Is it Cake is a successful show.

Yeah. And then let's check the producer. We'll check the producer credits on that one as well. By more and Lichols? L Michaels out there. El. Oh. This guy goes, TV people make less money than most would assume.

In 2007, I got to visit the home of a non-lead series regular on a network sitcom. It was just a regular-ass apartment. She wasn't starving or anything, but it was far from what I assumed. You imagine the look of utter disappointment on their face when they got invited over this person's apartment. They're just looking around. Like, you live here? You're on TV, though. What the hell's going on?

Yeah. Some of this isn't even brand name stuff. You think you got the... I love their, they're like, I got to visit the home of a non-lead series regular on a network sitcom. It's a weird thing to say. You're like one of the other Big Bang Theory girlfriends. Yeah.

It's coming three hours, by the way, after we read a complete bullshit lie of a story about a guy that met Alan Thick. Well, let's not, yeah. This is two weeks ago. Two weeks ago when you guys are listening on the guys plus bonus episode. But yeah, somebody, they were, they were talking a lot of shit about Allen Thick, another famous Canadian and saying that he was a bad guy. And I won't get, I won't get into it again too much.

But basically this guy who was in the service industry told off Alan Thick and sort of like made him look like an idiot. And do you know who is really impressed by that? Mr. Miyagi. He told him he was really impressed by that. And then he started telling all the other celebrities and all the other celebrities were like, holy shit, I heard you got Alan Thick. And I really put him in his place. We used to watch Alan Thick's reality show, Unusually Thick.

I was trying to think of what it was called. He was like, was it unruly or unreasonable? Unusually Thick. Where do I know that from? I don't, I've never seen it, but I've heard it like reference so much times. Maybe it's from Paul F. Tompkins doing Alan Thick on comedy bang, bang, perhaps. We definitely watched, like, it ran for a while, and John Doar was like a... He was kind of like a character.

Yeah, he was like, oh, he was renting his like pool house or something and getting his shenanical. John Doar is a really hilarious Canadian comedian. Maybe some of the listeners know him too, but was he like playing himself or he was playing a fake character? I can't remember. I think it was a fake character. Like, he was like, went to a bachelorette party with Alan Thick's wife and then

ended up in his underwear in the backyard. This wasn't entirely reality-based. Sometimes they do that. Sometimes they'll do fake stuff on reality shows. I do not like hearing. It's a little show business thing I know. I do not like hearing that. I'll be honest, I do not like that.

I tried that with my daughter, like, last week, because she was, like, over at the house all weekend. And she was like, you mind if I watch Love Island? I was like, oh, that's just fake. She just starts crying. The worst kind of guy. She actually mentioned, she actually mentioned to me

that something I like is fake too. Oh, yeah. This guy's a big, but Graham is as well, by the way, he's a big wrestling fan. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's fake. My favorite live show ever was your live show at Little Mountain Gallery, the ring of ding, ding, dong, dandy. Oh, yeah, that was so much fun. That was so much fun. He would watch old wrestling clips, like from the good stuff, from the good era.

No, I mean, wrestling is great right now. Yeah, we're not. If you watch the Royal Rumble this year and it was. Oh, don't. Oh, no. Brian doesn't like the good one. He likes the bad one. No, I like the good one.

He likes AEW. Graham and I went to a live AEW in Vancouver. And that was great. I'll bet you. Oh, really? You guys went to it. Did you see the guy who wrestles with his hands in his pockets all the time? They don't care about that.

Yeah, the masturbator. they think it's cool there was a guy they everybody yelled to take his pants off and he took his pants off and he was wearing like a gold that was a draw day

that yeah I was I didn't understand the lore behind that when I saw sounds like a really serious fucking promotion me I'm of territories guy

we don't I won't get into but I like the territory days NWA world champion Bruno San Martino people like that when you'd get a good long headlock that you could

you'd let the headlock breathe a little bit yeah smoky rat Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Yeah, like I like when there was an NWA champion and people, they would go around to the different territories and then they would wrestle for the NWA type. They would go around to the different territories

and do headlocks on each other. Yeah, they would go as to see who has the best headlock. Yeah, exactly. The old Missouri headlock. Yeah, headlock versus full Nelson match. Who's going to win? I was thinking, I was like, wait, the World Wildlife Fund wouldn't let them call

WWF that. the wrestling one so they made them change and then you were talking about NWA did you mean NWO? No NWA National Wrestling Align. So did the rap group let them keep NWA? They came way first.

And they let the rap group keep it? Yeah, they said no problem. They said no, they would This is back on wrestling at honor. If anything, this is good cross promotion for us. Yeah. Yeah, this is great. Big boss man shows up

Let's uh I actually I just opened up the Unusually Thick Wikipedia Yeah I needed to know when it was from 2014 2014 that's a lot That's a lot later than I expected it to be

Well Alenic is dead so Yeah Is he really? Yeah he's dead God rest his soul just like Gene mini jean simmons from many kids okay let's stop making specific references to our show and then i feel like i have to explain him to cram god bless him i saw many i saw them live in montreal oh you didn't see the

right well when did you see them when did you see them like a long time ago oh okay so you didn't see joie fatali he's our favorite he's we just know him from one clip at rover fest which is a uh like a regional shock jock it was a bikini festival and he was on had been on the road a long time and there was bikini babes and he said oh man these girls are hot man what i'd like to do to them i'm tired man and then the girls were looking at him so disgusted and then he died a couple weeks before he came out the video came out yeah so he was tired he was really tired he is tired and graham do you remember uh what charlie suggested past guest charlie Jamar suggested the lead singer

of Little Kiss's name would be. Recessive Gene Simmons. That's very funny. Here's another thing I really like is from the R slash live from New York. They have ideas to improve the show, some ideas for the show. Oh, here we go. Not for specific

sketches, just overall ideas. No, for like this is a good way. Could they do another quote anyone can host contest? Oh, buddy. It's not going to be you. And you know what? Whoever it is is going to suck. There's no way they would do that now.

But the reasons that they come up with in this thread not to do it are completely different than the reasons that. He goes, in the 70s, there was one that anyone can host contest, won by Miskill Spillman. Huh. Do you think they could do a similar contest with having an S&L fan host? Or is the show too reliant on having big names host now?

This first guy goes, I just think that's something a young show does, not an institution that's a promotional machine. Yeah, agreed. This guy goes, yeah, it was much more experimental early on, Andy Kaufman, for instance. People wouldn't get it these days. People didn't really, I love. Did you send me the thing, Brian, about Andy Kaufman, the guy you were reading R slash standup and the guy who was saying like, I want to go to shows and do some like Andy Kaufman stuff. I was thinking of like reading you Wikipedia articles. Just the most boring bad ideas ever.

I would make a microwave a hot pocket. Like I literally wanted to go to open mics. I get that real quick because I think you guys are loving. Yeah, I do love. I think that a key thing to being like an Andy Kaufman like performer is to like understand how to do it properly first. And then maybe you could like subvert. or whatever, do whatever it is that you want to do. But I like a lot of these guys just being like,

I want to go Andy Kaufman mode and just go up there and do terrible stuff that everybody hates. Yeah, open mics no less. Yeah. Yeah, trust me, that will be happening. You don't have to do it. Shit, I didn't text it to you. Oh, I know where it went.

Yeah, I'm not going to be able to find that. It's in the group chat. Yeah, the group chat goes crazy. But yeah, the guy was like, the guy was just like, yeah, like I read a book or something. something like that. Andy Kaufman did. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Yeah. I loved Andy Kaufman. This guy goes, Steve Martin did a live set in L.A. in an empty swimming pool and at another one of his shows, he took the audience across the street to McDonald's. Even Letterman did a ton of street stuff,

a weird experimental comedy in his early days. S&L is very far from that point. I mean, they're not wrong. We're far away from the bumblebees. Yeah, the hamburger. Hamburger. I listened to, I was listening to this podcast with my favorite British comedian, Bob Mortimer is his name. He's like an old. He used to be part of like a comedy duo, but he's very, very funny. And he said like a super interesting thing where he said comedians used to be idiots. Like they used to be stupid and they used to leave the stage and they wanted you to think they were a funny idiot. And now it's like not like that.

You know, they love it when you think they're smart. They're smart. Yeah, they're like cool and whatever. Like that's, we've gotten too far away from that. I think that I'd love to see some more dumb comedy like get back to that. They probably could, but you would get an insane American Idol level of submissions from every up and coming actor, stand up comedian and improv performer, hoping this could be their big break.

The amount of work it would take to go through them all would be enough reason why they wouldn't want to do it. I just pick one. On top of all the other reasons why they wouldn't want to do it. And this guy goes, they could turn it into a show. Oh. I didn't see a show. I bet they have another Lord produced show. Yeah, I get it.

Follow the money mystical spilman. Because American Idol's style contest with S&L cast as judges throwing skits at people with very low prep to see what they do. Throwing skits at people? Like, hey, like you're in a chop shop and, you know, there's a mob boss is going to go. Okay, be Mr. Peepers. Like that would be a fucking awesome joke. I would watch that.

Mr. Peepers says Chris Gittan. He's a monkey. Just bring random people up, you know, on there and be like, be Mr. Peepers for three minutes. I think there's no way they haven't thought of this and tried this. You know what I mean? Like at least like. Yeah, America's next top sketch guy.

I would say the last part of this where he says, they could broadcast over 10 to 15 weeks and the winner could host one night of S&L the next season. Yeah. I mean, if this was. Like they would have done it. Lauren Michaels produced a show, I think, called Bring the Funny. And Keenan was one of the judges.

And they had standups gone. And then people doing sketches as well. So this is, it has happened. It has happened. I don't know if Lauren produced it or not, but definitely Keenan's been on it. And that was, uh, and then they roasted one of the stand of comedians. They really made him look like an idiot. I mean, America's next like, like, like, Tiltone.

There's like, what was the, comedy one. What was it was, there was, it's called Kiltony, bring the funny. It was hosted by Keenan Thompson, Jeff Foxworthy and Chrissy Teagan. Oh shit. Chrissy Teigen. So the big three,

the big guy, the comedy's big three. And it featured a contestant Matt Rife. Oh, that's where Rife got his start. I bet Tegan gave him the fucking breaks. Kissy Tegan.

Cisie Dagan does not have a comedy background, does she? She probably went fucking nuts on him. I mean, I just read this. This is an old story, but she like severely bullied some child online. I remember reading about that. I feel like it is kind of in her wheelhouse to be like, you know, she should be on Kiltony. Oh, buddy, Chrissy Teigen on Kiltoney would break the internet straight up.

I mean, it sounds good to me. This guy goes perhaps one of the funniest bits of ever. would be if they picked a random person to host just once and acted like there was nothing strange about it. Oh, yeah. And then this guy is in riff mode. He goes, if April Fool's was ever on a Saturday. Nice. That is, well, it is statistically it can't be. And also, though, that everybody would be like, oh, it's April Fool's. You can't even do an April Fool's joke anymore, really. Yeah. This person goes, the show doesn't take risk like this nowadays in the hosting or musical guest department. Just look at the crazy range that we would get in the first few seasons.

I mean, the Preservation Hall jazz band was a musical guest. Can you imagine a jazz artist on S&L today? I'd like to see a greater variety in both slots. I would love to see a jazz band on I'd like to see a jazz artist as the host. I mean, I feel like they do a variety. Like still, they'll do like athletes. Like what else do you want? Like they'll do athletes. They do political people. That's not as musical guest. no yeah they could have trump as a musical guest and that would have been great oh yeah the Kelsey brothers doing as the musical guest that would be so have they hosted I don't think so I don't I heard a little bit of their podcast recently is very funny yeah we like on this podcast we are big fans of large football brothers yes in general there's a lot of them

Oh, I remember JJ and T.J. Watt were hosting a game show about playing tag. See what I mean? There's an endless number of large football brothers. You can look it up. There's like literally 150 of them, though. This guy goes, nope, not in the age of social media. Nobody has a social media presence clean enough and that won't make some segment of the public upset. No, you don't have a social media presence. Yeah. They get new cast members every week. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah, these are, and there's, listen, every now and then, Shane Gillis, it does kind of catch up with them. And then they put for the most part, yeah, everybody has a clean enough social media presence to get on the show.

I, not me. Several racist posts. Yeah, I mean, listen, Brian, I know you, you like to brag about your old racist posts. Travis Kelsey was the most recent athlete to host apparently. So Travis Kelsey didn't. He didn't even let his brother come on. No. I know.

That's rude. That's very rude. I would like my brother come on. He's the famous one though, right? Because he's obviously getting married to Taylor Swift. Madison Square Garden. Madison Square Garden. Yeah.

But there's no, no. There's never been a brother, sister combo that were on SNL, right? There was no. Or am I wrong about that? No, I don't think so. I mean, obviously Were there ever any siblings? If they were ever going to have

sibling hosts, they number one would have to be the Sclar brothers. No, I mean, like, cast members. I mean, the Jim and John Belushi, I think, were both members, cast members. Joan and Jane Kusack, is that possible?

Joan and Jane? Wait, don't think Jane Kusack ever. Not Jane. John and John. John I don't think was either. John Kusack, now he has a social media presence. Yeah, he does.

You can get a, cameo from him, which I was shocked. I didn't think he was cameo level, but there. He weirdly had me blocked on Twitter. Really? Yeah. I didn't really anything to the guy. Maybe I did. He might have read some of your

older pose. According to one of our guests, John Cusack, vapes on planes. Cristle like that. That's cool. Even worse is if you're a squeaky clean and people will hate you for not being edgy, you can't win. Miss Rachel gets too much hate because she supports

LGBT rights and she's as family friendly as they come. I think she gets hate. She got hate about supporting Palestine. Well, that's why she can't be the guest host. Yeah, that's the reason why they can't have run. And it's crazy the market they're missing out on there. If they had Miss Rachel. Babies who are up at midnight.

They would have an insane. They would have every toddler this side of the Mississippi would be too again. This guy goes, I remember back in the olden days, Jay Leno would get so much hate because he wanted his comedy to appeal to everybody. Conan gets hate because he refuses to mock Orange Hitler. Jimmy Kimmel gets hate because he apparently mocks Orange Hitler too much. And Jimmy Fallon gets hate because he messed up Orange Hitler's hair. Also, Fallon, even more so than Leno, tries to really appeal to everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Fallon also, they cut his own thumb off or something like that when he was drunk. He's a,

he's apparently a real problem. drinker. He was in Vancouver and he like stood up in a restaurant and did like sang songs and like no that nobody wanted. He just got up and started singing in this restaurant. I want to be that kind of famous. And then he was a guest on stage the next night when Paul McCartney was in town. So it was like ladies and gentlemen, the legend himself. Was he a contest winner? He might even a contest winner. Jimmy Fallon. Yeah, he I guess when you're that famous like he's like I'm the host of tonight. show. If I get up on this table and start singing, everyone's going to, it's going to make everybody's night. When the moon hits your eye, right. He's not a professional singer. He's drunk off his ass.

And it's like people are trying to just enjoy their night. I mean, that's, yeah. He's trying to take his wedding ring off, but it's, he's causing a giant finger evulsion. There's no need. Literally anybody can host now. Just go on social media and grow your

brand. That's how people like Jane Wick line of Veronica got. Oh, what's up with Calee Wickland? Who's Jane Wickline? Is she, I'm going to look her up now. She's a young cast member. She did a lot of like piano based, uh, uh, weekend update desk pieces.

Okay. I don't recognize her with her luge sketch. Okay. Is, you really do know your answer. Which was a pre tape, which I hate. There's a new, there's a, there's like a new cast member who got a lot of hate who was like a social media person. And I know I only know it because she would do like, you got Nathan Hare who was like a did comedy in Vancouver.

Yeah. He like does a lot of online videos and stuff and she was in them. And she does like kind of like real online brand of humor or whatever. And I remember she got the, I think this year or last year. And I did see some actual like pushback. Is it Veronica Sloakowska? Yes. That's who it is.

Yeah. Yeah. The first Canadian cast member since Norm MacDonald. Really? Oh, wow. That's her for sure. Yeah, she and she's like, by all accounts really funny. Like she posts funny, but she has that sort of like style of comedy that's very like off putting to regular people. Yeah, like to like regular people who are tuning into SNL. So I do feel like I do feel like that happens definitely where they're like they'll just let anybody with a social media presence. Like no, she's also like a comedian. You know, she's done. Like being good on social media, making funny videos might translate to being on SNL. Where you're doing funny videos. Yeah, it's true. They're just like, oh, they'll just let anyone who's grown their social media brand by making funny videos to come on SNL now. I did just look up Jane Wickline. This guy goes, she's not traditionally hot. She's uniquely hot. Plus attainable. She seems like someone who are in.

That's plus attainable. attainable. Well, he does say she seems like someone who would appreciate a genuine compliment on any of her work or talent or looks. Yes, there's Cindy Sweeney and the Anna de Armasu. We're hot. But Jane is the delicious burger when someone else is having a delicious pizza. They're both delicious and wonderful to enjoy, but for entirely different reasons. That's the most insulting, hot thing. I mean, that's, that is insulting in so many ways. But isn't there like a, a, a saying about cheating on your wife was like, why would I go out for burgers when I got steak at home? Yeah. Yeah. So this guy's only like, well, pizza is good. I only like pizza and burgers.

Yeah, I think maybe he wrote it. Delicious pizza and a delicious burger at the same time. He wrote it his steak first and they realized that's too insulting. Like, let's just make it pizza. The other things pizza. Like they're just different. Here's a good one. Cute knockers and nice thighs.

Always felt she was hot but knew nothing of this undiscovered. country. I think that's just a little joke, you know. Dang, I had no idea how tighter body is. I take back all the bad things I said about her. That guy said some bad things about her in the past, but now he's he's seen the error of his ways. Is there, there's not, this is only for the, this is only for babes, women. There's no, there's no, uh, sight for men. Unfortunately, no babes on the, there's no man on the baby's It's very attainable. It still, it does feel like not to get too woke here, but it feels it just feels a little bit unfair.

They're just trying to be funny on a TV show and they have to like, I mean, I guess they'll never see it. But you know, the idea that women are just out there doing a comedy show and there's this entire website that's just like talking about how hot or not they are. Yeah, I think when a lot of people get a lot of female comedians get a job on SNL, they're like, oh, I hope I can land. a husband from Reddit. What about this guy who says, what I think they pointed out that she's taller than a lot of other female? And this guy goes,

want me some giant tests, please. And then he gets a reply, given that I'm only five age, she'd be all the more giant tests with me. I'll be one of those little guys, big girlfriend. Every guy's dream to be a little guy,

big girlfriend. What do you think the most attainable hotness man of S&L has ever been? Like somebody like that guy is, he is hot, but you could get it. I feel like I'm going back. I mean, Adam Snyder. I could never get Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider, you could never get. I know Robb's a personal friend of mine.

A real man. He would never go. Yeah, he's one of the worst human beings I've ever spoken to on a personal level in my life. But I mean that. I feel like Adam Sandler has that kind of like, you know, attainable. Like he seems real down to earth kind of. You're kidding yourself. You don't think I can get Chandler?

I mean, that's great. He's like always out at the YMCA shooting hoops and stuff like that. I feel like you could definitely get his ear perhaps, right? You could talk to him perhaps. Yeah, if you had a good layup or something, he could be like. Yeah, exactly. You could like, or you just set a good screen for him. And you're like, hey, Sandler, I got here.

you know and then he got he respects you on like a basketball level or whatever so uh this is from quora this guy asked why was chevi chase banned from hosting saturday night live in 1997 i think that's just i know the answer to this because i saw the documentary i do not know because this guy's going to tell you i think it's just for generally being a bad guy who yeah unpleasantness i have a unique perspective on this because prior to that date in 1997 chevy chase had also hosted Saturday Night live on October 7, 1995. At that time, I was working at NBC Digital, specifically on the sports properties, developing a Super Bowl website and an Olympic website for 1996.

I'd been working at NBC in New York since July, so you can imagine my reaction when Chevy Chase showed up in the afternoon. They announced that they had the O.J. Simpson verdict. The world would have it. Whoa, I did not expect that. Huge day. Huge day. Chevy Chase is coming by my work to tell me if he's guilty or not.

The world would have to live in suspense overnight. The verdict had come down so unexpectedly fast that neither prosecutor Marshall Clark nor defense attorney Johnny Cochran were at the courthouse. Judge Lance Eto ruled that the decision would be read the following morning at 10 a.m. As we sat in shock at how quickly everything had unfolded, a voice came from the doorway of our open office where we all sat in cubicle. The voice said, are you guys with Saturday Night Live? I replied without even looking up. No, we're a new division with NBC Interactive. We're developing a website for the Super Bowl and for the 1996 Atlanta.

The judge is named Lance Edo. But you would know where both of those things are since they have it. Oh, no, he goes, oh, he goes, but the riders rooms across the hall and the main offices are by the elevator bank. Then I saw that the person asking the question was not. none other than Chevy Chase. Wow. So I quickly added, but you would know

where both of those things are since they haven't changed them. He laughed and motioning to the TV asking, do we have a verdict? Allison Davis, formerly of the Today Show and now working in the news division of NBC Interactive,

pointed out that we would have to wait overnight for the verdict, explaining the reasons that she briskly walked out of the door on her way home. I'd pack up my laptop. This is a cast of characters in this story.

say. I'd packed up my laptop and was ready to leave myself. And that's how I ended up walking to the elevator, riding down to the first floor and standing in the lobby of 30 Rock, talking to Chevy Chase for probably about another 10 minutes altogether. So he followed him out there to go talk to him. This next line. Well, who was I? I was nobody. I was just a kid from Canada, not acting like a starstruck goofball, but having a regular conversation with Chevy Chase. And that kid from Canada went and grew up to be. hires he wanted to know what the odds in vegas were for the verdict he said i'd like to put ten thousand dollars on not guilty i think he's going to walk i'd read something earlier that day

stating that odds makers had settled in a likely guilty verdict for betting on the outcome so if you bet on not guilty you make about four dollars per every dollar bet in the end he if he'd have placed that ten thousand dollar bet he would make forty thousand dollars i think if i remember it correctly regardless, which I do because I remember every second of this interaction. Regardless, I found it to be nothing but a gentleman. He was really nice and polite, and I didn't have any issues with how he treated me.

As I understand it, though, the next week he owes on SNL in 1997. He wasn't the same. Okay, so hang on. So you're telling me that whole story was completely meaningless for what we're talking about. He was like, yeah, he was nice to me.

Anyways, all that aside, I guess on SNL he was. kind of rude. Something probably changed. He maybe was upset about not betting that. Yeah. $10,000. Yeah, he knew he should.

Yeah, the 40 grand would have really changed. I do. He's not done. By the way, there's more story. Oh, more story. Okay. There's way more story.

By that time, I moved to L.A. after the Olympics to begin working on the tonight show with Jay Leno, web project. Of course. I was like, what is he working for Jay Leno? Pause.

I heard that Chevy had been a real jerk. One of my friends on the show and music coordinator was very nice. But when I asked him about it, he just said, I don't want to talk about it, but it was ugly. That's all he would say. Apparently, people on the show were often quoted as anonymous sources and news reports without realizing it, thanks to reporters who weren't fully up front about why they had befriended certain people.

Hence, my friends, I don't want to talk about it, response, which likely pointed to the ugliness of the situation. If I had to sum it up, I'd say I found it. to be more like his Fletch character than anything else. He was solving mysteries. He showed up in costumes. He was less like Clark Griswold

and more like funny farm. This guy's stories all have to be great. Yeah, I watched the Chevy documentary. They talked to their main guy they talked to is the guy who made NBC websites in the 90s. I wish Lano's website. was still alive. I would love to see. And you go back to the little Jay Leno.

He goes, I can see how that persona could become super annoying, especially in a professional environment. That is the story of why Chevy Chase got banned from hosting NSNL in 1997. It's the full story. You're not going to hear that anywhere else. Yeah, the crux of it is that he was a jerk, but there was a lot of stuff surrounding it. He wasn't a jerk to me, man.

No. To me, Starstruck at all. Yeah, that was, that's the whole thing, too, is like, we do encounter a lot of people that meet celebrities or whatever, and they're just like, you just talk to them like a normal person. And it's like, that's the key. They get so many people who are like, like, there's the one guy in the autograph line at the meet and greet or whatever.

Some people are probably just going crazy to see you, you know? And then you talk to them on their level and then they're going to be more, you know, they're going to be like, oh, this is like one of my kind of people. That guy was at a death metal concert. talking to a woman who's in a death metal band. Yeah, and he's like, who was signing autographs and he's like, you're probably, some of these people are probably so annoying to you.

It's like, okay. I love that guy though because I like it when he said, who was I? I was nobody. Love it. Just a kid from Canada, you know? Who's that movie producer that did his own narration for a documentary? Robert Evans.

Robert Evans. Did I think it was a mistake? Sure, I did. Here's a question on Quora too. When you heard Timothy Chalame sing Bob Dylan songs on S&L in 2025, were you genuinely moved and charmed? I didn't know he did that. Richard Orange says, no, I was not moved.

He's an actor and he has a voice and he has money behind him in training to sing and mimic the great artist for the role. It's that simple. It happens quite often with actors that are called those. for a role. Yeah. Yeah, they get, they do have all kinds of help to help them like sing and all that stuff. So it's not really, I mostly watch as an L to, to be moved. Yeah. It's a, it's a variety show. A lot of people forget that. When Kate McKinnon played the piano is Halloween. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm saying people like, oh, this sketch isn't even funny. It's a variety

show. Some of them are not meant to make you laugh. Some of them are meant to move you like and make you feel different emotions other than like they used. Yeah. Sometimes they had Andy Kaufman on there and he was like one of the weirdest guys. He's a fucking weird on that guy. You think this is funny Andy? I don't know if you see the rest of the show but you don't see on the same page as ever. He's crazy, but he might just be brilliant. I do like the idea of scary sketches or other variety. This is a sad sketch we're doing tonight.

Scary sketches is a really good. A child has been murdered. That's like a good, that would be super. if they did the same cast and everything, you know, like they have like Keenan, Kenan's like playing a role or whatever and they, it's just an actual horror. Yeah, he's a child murderer in it. I guess it would be hard to come back. You'd have to do that last probably. No, you do it in the middle.

You do it in the middle and then he comes back out. He's just like doing that crazy host who's dancing. What's up with that? What's up with that? We. This person asked an interesting question that. you don't think about often. Why does SNL begin so late at 11.30 p.m.? They're not ready for prime time. SNL was always intended to be a late night show so it could do comedy that would be censored at a more

family-friendly hour. When SNL started in 1975, it was a genuine shock. It was edgy and brash, covering topics like sex and drugs with a effem if they don't get the joke attitude that had never been seen before on American TV. Putting the show on at prime. time would have guaranteed NBC running a foul of the FCC. But the show was perfect for late night slot when standards are more relaxed. Of course, after 45 years, S&L is hardly cutting edge. As one of its early writers put it, you can only be avant-garde for so long before you go guard.

But the show is still broadcast at 1130 because that's just part of the show's DNA. As of 2017, however, NBC broadcasts SNL live everywhere in the contiguous United States. West Coast viewers see the same show at 8.30 p.m. The East Coast viewers see at 1130. Yeah, you can watch it earlier. You can if you want. This is a person Michelle went to go see SNL live. She's from Des Moines, Iowa. Ooh. And she said, fun experience, but the show was just average. We purchased a ticket to SNL at an auction and we're able to choose our date. They don't announce who the host is until two weeks before the show. We had Octavia Spencer, so we were thrilled.

Father John Misty was the musical guest, Choppel Trap House fan. Father John Misty, I like him. He used to play with the Fleet Foxes, I believe. He's probably great. No, he didn't. He didn't. I've seen him live before, though, Father John Misty. It was a good show.

My wife listens to one of his songs. Okay, yeah, yeah. Probably for the one, but I know that song. Yeah. It's a woman's song. Okay. More of a song, a woman would like. Who bear short shorts, that kind of thing.

Yeah. He goes, the opening skit was funny, but it went downhill from there. The writers just aren't as good as they used to be. We were hard pressed to find much humor in any of the skits. The experience was still fun, just fun to be at the show, see how things are done, and be in that atmosphere. When we got home, our friends had all watched, as had our family, hoping to see us. They all agreed it was one of their weaker episodes, but then in general, the writing is just not so funny anymore.

Gone are the Conehead days. Oh, boy. They don't make them like the cone heads anymore. Why don't I like this show I liked 50 years ago? Yeah, the cornheads is genuinely 50 years ago. And it's just guys with cone heads. Yeah. Well, they're aliens.

It's a little bit deeper than that, Brian, and that sort of shows that you didn't really get the jokes inside. I mean, cone heads. I watched that movie a million times growing up. I watched the movie. It was on TV quite a bit, I think. I would watch it on TV a lot. And I would watch it all the time.

That's a different thing. Yeah, land shark is different. Land shark. It was a land shark movie. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah. That could be a horror. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking, Dave.

A land shark, but it's like dead serious. And it's like, it's actually a shark that's on land that's genuinely eating people, children, perhaps, if you want to really make it impactful. But it does knock on your door. Yeah. Yeah. And I wish I would have kept this thing that I, found, because there was only like one reply.

But they're like, why hasn't Steven Spielberg ever hosted Saturday Night Live? And somebody said, do you think he was offended by Landshark? That's funny. That is a good line. That person's being funny. I hope so. Apparently Steven Spielberg is a huge fan and goes and hangs out every single week. That's sad.

Really? I would do that too. Is that really true? Yeah. Oh, is, yeah, because I think he, good neighbor, they talked about it. like who they all the Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett and stuff he like sent them a thing I guess his daughter maybe watched a thing and with him and they like say they talked about it how he sent an email being like I'm a real big fan of your work I really like it so he's a he does

love sketch comedy I wish he'd listen to our show you wish Spielberg would be against it I would love to yes I saw his last movie and and I didn't like it cornyest listen it has we don't want to say it's all bad disclosure date but Has some of the, yeah, some of the corneous dialogue I ever heard in a movie really like, like a parody level. I loved Disclosure Day and I'll also tell you this. I loved that Saturday Night Live movie, the one about being backstage of Saturday Night Live. Oh, what?

I haven't watched that one yet. S&L, I almost read reviews of that. We wanted to do that on a bonus episode. What's that called? It's Saturday night. Saturday night. I did not watch that. And I was going to get reviews of the Lorne documentary.

which I can't. Oh, that was more, it was like recent. I can't. I will never watch a documentary about Lord Michaels. I would allow somebody to hit me with their car before I would watch a documentary about Lord Michael. There's also a documentary about like behind the scenes about how they make an episode of it. And it's directed by James Franco.

Nice. Hey, that guy, he's got some problems, huh? This is from Facebook. This is from the official Saturday night. like Facebook. It is, uh, I'm not going to play the sketch, obviously. It's a sketch called the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein pays a visit to Trump. Okay. And this is one that somebody's come up with, or this is a real sketch that this is their sketch. This is on the show. This is from the official S&L at Facebook page. And this is a sketch that they did on their show. Okay. And I'm just

going to read some reviews from Jordan here. He goes, Trump's going to lose his mind when he sees this. He's like my old friends, my old friends at S&L. You guys, how did you do this to me? We joked around. We goofed around before. This guy goes nuts, though. He goes, expect a truth post at 3 a.m. today and capital letters about this. SNL is failing. They have no talent and they have not been funny since the

dick in the box song. I tried that once for Melania and she loved it. Melania has always loved small gifts. Cancel SNL. Do, do, thank you for your attention on this matter. DJT. This guy goes, these are government facts.

I'm glad we're turning it into comedy. Hope Trump saw this. awesome season ending. Then a guy replies and says government facts? Kind of an interesting way to describe a fact. These are government approved facts. This fact is, yeah,

definitely the government said it. This guy goes, the best comedy show based on real life past and present. Next guy goes, I watched it. I love comments. I love, Facebook comments that are just a guy saying, I watched it. Yeah.

Am I required to comment? All right. Here it goes. We did. I read the long, when we did a toy episode, we recently did a Toys guys episode. And I, there was this, there was this thread about these frisbee's that used to come with a pair of keds sneakers. All right.

And one was red and one was blue. And every single comment was a guy. from like a 70 year old guy saying like I had blue or like a 70 year old person saying I had red and it was every comment down to think and I was like why are you doing this just to feel like yeah like you're part of this thing right then I found out my mom does it from my daughter told me that my mom has joined a bunch of Facebook groups for like 90 day fiance and stuff oh sure and she comments on all this stuff he's like I think she deserved it I don't think they ever loved each other. And I'm like, you know what? I'm glad she's talking to somebody because she's not calling me anymore. And it's hard to meet new friends, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, especially when you're really annoying. Uh, this guy, finally, this guy goes, I'm surprised they didn't had Hillary Rotten Rotten. Rotton. That is a good name though. Hey, you can't make fun of that. I mean that's a funny good. That's a flub for sure. But that's also, you know people have used that

one as well. Like what you mean Hillary Rotten Clinton? Horny Rotten. creature. Horny rotten creature. It's just so good because you don't really, you know, you need context. Yeah, yeah. You need full God. In the future, still denying knowing them with Bill Clinton next to her in a blue dress from Jeffrey Epstein's picture, that would have added to it.

It would have had everybody laughing because you're not just pointing at one. You're pointing at everybody as your target. Yes. But whatever, it's SNL. they aren't as good as they used to be. Yep. What are these people's, uh, alternative? What, what are they, what's the sketch show for them?

If, that's, no, this is. Okay. I don't know if you know gutt fields. Have you ever seen gutfeld? Yeah. Yeah. When I found out that, uh, so, oh, I'm going to run out of time, but I'm going to say this. I did an interview with a guy who was in a metal band that I absolutely fucking loved.

Like that power trip Riley Gale lead singer of the band power trip we interviewed him and he like died like a couple days later right shit yeah what is it with these this is a really good good way to end the episode but but the album's awesome if you listen to the I don't remember the name of the album but the album's awesome it's like 30 minutes long it's heavy as hell and anyway uh I was like so like I'm really honored that he would want to talk to us. And then I found out like that he was friends with Greg Gutfeld. He's not like conservative. You know what I mean? Like he was definitely not a conservative guy. But it was like Greg Gutfeld. Just a fan of his Greg's comedy. Greg Gutfeld saw me say something nasty about him because he played a power trip song on Gutfeld. And he was like, little did you know, I've had him on my show and then sent me a link. And I was like, oh, Riley, it's got felt's bad. Yeah. But you know, Whatever. I love that guy. I thought about that earlier about how Kevin Neeland,

we were talking about his paycheck. And like the last thing I heard of him was that he had Jeff Dunham on one of his, his hiking podcast or whatever. So I guess we're making fun of Jeff Dunham on this show now. Please tell me this is a true thing that you're not just, is this a real thing? This is a real thing. He had Jeff Dunham because we saw Jeff, Jeff Dunham on Bill Mars.

Oh, and it was good because there was a part in it where Jeff Dunham was like, like and then Bill Maher was like like the straight of whore moves yeah he made a comment he made a reference to the straight of horro moves which we're big fans of well i love the straight he said like yeah i've got a production crew that could help you out with that right now they're busy in the straight of hor moose and jeff done him like looked at him and like registered that he was trying to make a joke so he's like opening laugh open very nice bill you've done it again but yeah he he mentioned on there that he was recently on kevin nieland show and i realized that there's like these old comedian guys and stuff who are just

like, no, Jeff Dunham, he's like an old comedy guy. We started, you know, we're both comedians. I'll have them on or whatever. And it is Jeff Dunham doing an interview on Bill Maher and saying like, turns out people in Tel Aviv really like the Ahmed the dead terrorist character. Yeah.

But did he have a guy with him? No, that was bullshit. He was puppetless. He showed up. That's like, that's crazy to me to show up. It's like, they don't want to interview you. They want interview the old grumpy man or whatever the old grumpy man it looks like clenny's hellapino on a stick yeah alpineo on a stick that's brian love halapino on a stick i'd love to do

the accent but they're not letting me do them in that's right accent of the week has been can't they're not allowing me to do brian's accent of the week and i would love to get halvino on a stick on the show and just interview oh i let me get him real quick no no why you have to go you have to go grab him real quick you have to go sleep Steve Olmstetter. All right, we'll see you all. Oh, yeah. Graham and Dave, do you have any thing you'd like to plug?

Just look up my post history on SNL Babes, subreddit. These guys, if you're not, they do stop podcasting yourself, which is one of the best podcast, maybe the best Canadian podcast. It's, you guys have been doing it for a long time. It was like my most, it was the first podcast I ever did. It was like a real podcast. And so I guess that we're not the best Canadian podcast. anymore.

No, we have you. We have you, a nasty American on here that makes us non-Canadian. But it was, yeah, I'll still remember that, like going over to your house, Dave, and being like, oh, my God, like this show that I listen to all the time, I'm going on it. And you guys should listen to it. I've done a couple of episodes, one after guys came out, so one somewhat recently. But yeah, there's plenty of people who have been on our show, Bita, who was just on a couple weeks ago on here. She's done a bunch

Charlie DeMeres, a lot of people. So yeah, go check out their podcast if you like and Chris, you were really funny on it. So if people want an entry point. No, that's nice. I think on the second episode, I feel like it went good. The first episode, I can't even listen back to it because I'm just like,

good one, guys. I know. Now I'm going to listen to it. Now I'm excited. I will be listening to the first one. And then I will also get my soundboard back in order to add. clips of Chris being like good one guys yeah I really I really was like just completely out of my depth the first time but yeah go listen to tell you you've been on three times yeah that's I know

that the second time was pretty good and then the third time was more recently oh okay I thought there was just I thought you thought it was twice yeah no I've been on three times so you listen to the most recent one uh with me as a starting point if you want to but yeah they've got a bunch of amazing episodes yeah we talked uh well I think at the time you were obsessed with swingers clubs. Well, we're not obsessed with those at all. I hate to tell you, that episode could have been done a week ago.

Big news. Big news. We're going to talk about swings clubs on Sunday. Yeah, big news. We have, we have a yeah, we still talk about it on bacon guys. Brian mentioned like, man, I kind of wish we did this episode first. That was his plan, but we did sex guys. And now

it's basically still all we talk about on all of the bonus episodes. So yeah. All right. We'll see you all next week. I got to go see Steve Hofstadter. Goodbye. Bye.

Bye.