Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 56 - Beer Guys with Pendejo Time

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

We had https://twitter.com/jakebrodes and https://twitter.com/len0killer from Pendejo Time https://www.patreon.com/pendejotime on to talk about Beer Guys. Do they like to drink alone? Does making beer... smell? Are the bottles that they put Sam Adams in made out of metal? Then we played a GAME. That's right, A GAME!!! There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, Mr. Macro Brew, my co-host, Chris James. What's up, Mr. Macro Brew? Oh, you said it like it sounds like you said it a second time, like it didn't hit the first time. It didn't feel as much like an insult the first time. I mean, I guess it's like the opposite of a micro brew, right? That's what I'm that's what I'm into is micro brews. Oh, wait, that's good? Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm into micro brews. I'm crazy about them. I had no idea, so I did not take that as an insult at all. But yeah, I mean, I guess I don't drink beer at all. But when I did. You're a Budweiser guy. He's into Budweiser. Just don't listen.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Don't unbelieve me. I see him drinking all the time before we record the show. I know you recently, sort of recently, you you stopped drinking bud light but that's like a different thing yeah yeah even get into that well this week we have some guys that i've been wanting to get on for the whole year uh they have me on their show to promote guys before there was even an episode we got thomas and jake from pendejo time hey guys hello thank you for having us thanks let me I gotta start this because I do know Chris isn't a drinker uh we actually have a deal that when we then when we hang out we're gonna drink this really gross beer
Starting point is 00:01:35 that uh we learned about in like episode five or something called real ale yeah you guys probably have heard cast ale real ale yes like it's british guys who are like what if beer was like warm and flat all the time it's like uh there's a term for there's another one that's like it called barley wine it's just like super high abv like flat beer which sounds like piss like it sounds by all accounts sounds like the like it's all the the worst parts of beer like you know the stuff you're trying to avoid in drinking beer and they're like that's what we're trying to do but they're also i think they're like they're kind of classic men you know what i mean they kind of like wish that the world was that way in a lot of ways you know yeah yeah i
Starting point is 00:02:20 gotta ask i'll start with thomas first are you a beer guy? Not in the insult way. Do you drink beer and do you care that much about it? I enjoy it. I wouldn't consider myself somebody who knows a lot about it. I've had a decent amount of it in my day, but it was mostly really cheap beer. of it in my day but i it was mostly like really cheap beer right in the past past year or so i've like i've tried a few beers that were more expensive by more expensive i mean like more than five dollars at a bar and i've liked them but i still like like when i buy beer i get like budweiser or whatever like i'm i'm a i'm a big brand guy for them oh okay hey
Starting point is 00:03:05 brian why don't you say insult to him i like thomas he's good um uh i will say that like uh i've recorded with you guys a couple of times and uh i did not think that you guys would be super uh into like ipas and stuff when i asked you to come on i didn't get that vibe jake are you a beer guy dude what's funny is i i worked in a lot of like beer gardens when i moved to austin in like 2012 when a lot of this shit was really popping off oh yeah like like the twirly mustache like type guys you know what i mean and uh so in order to like work there you have to learn about it and try all of these and you have to interact with these guys are your bosses and they really want you to care about it and so big i got into a couple of the
Starting point is 00:03:57 like like super like hoppy like i liked ipas um but i never first of all, I like to drink a lot of weak beers over the course of a 12-hour period. So I'm a Miller High Life guy. That's just – it's been my go-to forever, but they would – you couldn't – when I worked at this one place, a guy would be like, yeah, it's bitter. It's got a little bit of tangerine zest it's got you know it's very it's very um alcohol forward and then people would ask me like hey man i just want a beer and i would be like just get a bud white don't get anything with this fucking like top hat wearing psycho it's like like the guys i was seeing on here over i couldn't find a really good one so we're not
Starting point is 00:04:45 gonna have one but there is this beer called sam adams utopia it costs almost 400 a bottle and it's i've heard of it i've heard of it only because bill the guy from um anthony kumia's network he's like he's like with the main morning host on anthony kumi's network and he was so broke that he was trying to sell one of them online awesome and then some other some other like troll tricked him into like selling it like meeting him and some place that had a camera that they could see him meeting him so that i know of that beer specifically that it's like one that people will like it commands a large amount online you can like resell it for a lot 200 bucks is what is retail i believe from what i had read and i was
Starting point is 00:05:32 reading people drinking this sam adams utopia i was like reading what they were saying and none of them like said it was good they're like it tastes kind of like brian sounds like you don't get it yeah you're looking for a beer that's like good yeah that's like a pretty fucking standard way of looking at it but no it's just it's not about it being good it's about it um uh someone else want to jump in here help you yeah really big bottle oh the bottle that's big and also it's probably comes in like a cool bottle i'll show you guys a picture of the bottle here in a second but i want to actually read this thing that that came up on the subreddit that i don't
Starting point is 00:06:12 know why this made me feel so great but uh i gotta find them here i did it's one of the last things i i bought oh okay psa you bought You bought? Our beer. Our beer. This is from them. And it's PSA. Sam Adams Utopia is not a metal bottle. My wife bought it for me for Christmas. As I was unwrapping it, I dropped the box. It's a clay bottle. Entire thing shattered into a hundred
Starting point is 00:06:38 pieces with $200 worth of beer all over the floor now. So if you get one, be gentle. That's humiliating. And then your poor wife has gone to all this trouble to get it and everything like that. And just your clumsy
Starting point is 00:06:54 ass fucking... I feel like it's better to be married to the kind of mean alcoholic guy that drinks Coors. You know what I mean? At least you know where you stand with him. He's not going you either he's not gonna bother you he'll go in his garage and drink 24 beers exactly you can find cores at walmart like he'll drink it at any temperature too out of anything he'll drink absolutely you know it doesn't matter i think there's it has
Starting point is 00:07:20 its own problems that come along with that type of relationship that are sort of different but yeah i think it's definitely from what we've learned through guys is yeah it's tough to be married to somebody who's really into something and you're not that into it it's hard because it can start to dominate your life as well well i think like like there was a when i was working at this this one specific beer garden i'm thinking right now i was on the water it wasn't like on lake austin or whatever and uh there were terms you had to learn you had to know what they mean so like we would take a server test like if you work on a restaurant oh yeah you know and one of the terms i hated it i still hate it i hate to say it it's called hop head and it's a guy who only drinks ipas and uh and that that sucks yeah and so and because you know the hops are what make it bitter whatever
Starting point is 00:08:11 and and i did i had acquired a taste for these things because i worked there for so long and would get them for free and i went to a different bar um owned by the same company or the same restaurateur or whatever and i was like hey man can i just get like a 512 like austin like ip or whatever and the guy looks at me he's got the mustache he's got the fucking cocktail maker like leather apron for a butcher you don't need it you're mixing alcohol yeah and he's like oh a fellow hop head oh yeah and i was like, I have a bomb vest on. Yeah, man. That sucks when somebody's like, oh, you're like me. And you're like, oh, fuck. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That's how I'm like. Yeah. I was like, no, I just liked, man. Look, it's like 9% alcohol. I got work in two hours. Like, I need, you know, I got shit. You know, Chris, I wanted to address before we get too into this. I didn't know my camera was going to be on.
Starting point is 00:09:07 This was given to me as a joke by my friend when I got off probation. I didn't want you to think that. As soon as I started drinking coffee, I just saw people's faces go. Just for everyone who's listening, he's got, I guess, I mean, it looks like just your normal sort of American flag.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I just wanted to be upfront about it it i actually use a corn mug yeah i i follow you online and like i've seen your posts and stuff so like i assumed that it was kind of like a goof but it would have been funny if i as soon as i take a sip i just i just start grimacing i'm just yeah i do want to say that this guy who dropped his 200 beer if you feel sorry for him i just want you to know that he posted this on reddit twitter facebook and he was adding sam adams trying to get a new freebie the thing about it is that's also funny is that most beer in bottles is not in a metal bottle oh you would assume it's not you would think it would be glass i didn't even drop that also breaks right clumsy fuck just clearly dropped i've never a fragile item and it was like oh that they don't make fucking titanium beer
Starting point is 00:10:17 bottles anymore oh i see so this expensive beer and you're putting it in a breakable bottle oh okay sure here's the bottle for everybody for you guys to see i'll make it and you're putting it in a breakable bottle oh okay sure here's the bottle for everybody for you guys to see i'll make it the uh oh okay it does look kind of metallic i don't you shouldn't drop it but you should still i would definitely not i would definitely not drop it still yeah i would take would take the chance dude if i spend five hundred dollars on a beer i want to get fucked up there's no way that that's doing the job there's it does but they all say you can only really drink a couple of drinks of it before it's like it's just too much it's like uh they're like oh it's more like a drinking uh a sipping sherry it's like get the fuck out of here so it's bad yes yeah i can't drink a lot of it the only reason
Starting point is 00:11:02 i can't drink a lot of something is either it has too much alcohol in it or it's really bad. Right. Yeah. It's 28%. Okay. But even then. Yeah, even then, man. Because, I mean, I don't drink a lot, but I used to drink stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I don't want to fucking brag to you guys, but I used to drink stuff more than 28%. Damn near 40% some of the stuff I was drinking on. percent damn near 40 some of the stuff i was drinking on well it's like it it's one of those things that you're like you're like okay i this is the thing that i'm into and some guys are into carpentry or like making cars go fast or hunting guitars guitars some audio files some people are really into lego some people are no into sex clubs you get to be like uh your buddy's like oh did you get that uh did you get that like 900 year old beer and you're like yeah dude the old lady got it for me but i checked it out i threw it on the fucking ground and it broke like like your moment the thing like when a guy finally gets his engine running or he gets that
Starting point is 00:12:05 fucking les paul he's always wanted you get it and then it just your dream shatters into a billion fucking pieces on the ground well that was something we found on the bourbon guys episode was that we were able to search for pappy van winkle which is the top level shit and there were so many bad reviews and those made me immeasurably happy more than a guy spent thousands of dollars on it took a drink and said this stuff tastes like shit well dude it's the best type of so like bourbon cigars and and beer are among the types of things that like if you can market something towards the type of like um like a guy who still has the a 12 year old's idea of what a cool man is you know like if you can market something to them you can be like oh this this beer is
Starting point is 00:12:51 500 because it's for gentlemen yeah that's what i mean pappy that's what they've they've done it like done such a great job yeah just sort of making it this i mean and then yeah all those people online who are so obsessed with it they're the ones that prop it up and make it so expensive obviously you do the legwork for them the the rest of the legwork for the marketing company that the brewery hired or whatever yeah yeah well now good old spence replies and he goes my uncle used to run the restaurant at a weston hotel before he died spelled wrong by the way that's a pretty big but he spelled weston wrong so it could not be a lesson but he goes he told me one day the bartender knocked a bottle of louis the 13th on the ground and it shattered and a guy replies basically calling this dude a liar
Starting point is 00:13:36 and he goes that's possible but she must have had a concrete floor some bad luck the louis bottles are pretty damn durable oh that's sweet that's a person's calling him out like yeah right it broke like this person's like not saying that like i doubt that you had the louis bottle they're basically saying like i've dropped one before it's hard to break it he's just saying yeah he's you're a lot you're lying actually you're telling a story that is a lie to everybody but uh the dude goes they're crystal and then the guy responds and goes that they are hell i even went through their training program a few years back still they're pretty solid so now the guy that's telling the lie is like going back on it now he's
Starting point is 00:14:17 like oh they're pretty good you start tossing around the ground i'd be a little surprised to see one actually shatter i'd expect more chipping spilling of cognac all over the place and a decent dent in the floor. I feel for the tender that had to break the news regardless. And he goes, so he's saying it would have to be like thrown down. So the guy that's lying replies and goes, it was on the very top shelf. We shouldn't have doubted him to be honest some of the shelves are so fucking high and then it could fall off there and break easy uh the uh uh i worked at a like this like cocktail joint for a while and they had all their top shelf like you know you're super
Starting point is 00:14:58 expensive like 200 300 a shot like whiskeys up there and my manager i was a he's a friend of mine he's like a bourbon guy like you guys are talking about and there was a guy that would come in and order like a balvenie like 15 year which is like this insane scotch or whatever it's like a hundred dollars a shot hundred dollars shot and he would mix it with diet coke i love it yeah he was my favorite people drink poppy and they have it like jello shooters yes that's the best it made my manager really it really mad but there was like something in my head where i was like i kind of like this guy yeah yeah because
Starting point is 00:15:30 you're not like if you're not a whiskey guy that's awesome to like you know to us it's like very funny obviously because yeah that's uh yeah it makes somebody like that really angry for no reason i'm a big fan of this guy choco bops that replies to this and he goes i found this post just now when i did a search for sam adams utopia i found the taste seriously underwhelming maybe this helps you feel better you probably got the best of it from the aroma when it was dropped to be honest the beer itself has a funky aftertaste and i still have three quarters a bottle that i'm hoping will improve in a couple days. So he just searched.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Buddy, take your three-quarter bottle, smash it on the ground, and just sniff it. It sounds like that's your best bet. I like that he searched Sam Adams Utopia so he could tell somebody it sucks. Well, also the idea that it's going to age and decant over the course of two days. Like, maybe it'll taste better on Friday. I know it's fucking Wednesday. This shit tastes bad. Yeah, give it a little time yeah i do like that they were like trying to help each other
Starting point is 00:16:29 out but yeah i looked into some home brewers i don't know i can't i can't imagine anybody on this call has done home brewing well no yeah no i haven't but like when we were younger it was a big thing like my brother did it and i had friends who did it you know just like oh we get cheap beer this way yeah like make a bunch of fucking beer and i remember they would be like oh this is like a heineken fucking you know what i mean you have like things that you could make but it never tasted anything like what they were trying to but you could get great fucking value out of it yeah no i don't mind home brewing i don't think of it as like the same as you know i think of it like a lot of people are home brewing i don't think of it as like the same as you know i think of it like a lot of people are just people who are poor do it to drink you know
Starting point is 00:17:09 i don't know i don't think so that you don't think the prices of this stuff is crazy is it okay because i just don't maybe it's not the case anymore but when i was younger definitely like you could home brew you could do a bunch you would go to a place like brew your own beer or whatever and you'd go there you could brew tons and tons of it for like a very low amount of money i hate to tell you what the beer guys would think about you for doing oh they that would that wouldn't be good like a kit don't buy a kit you know you gotta learn how to do it yeah, that is actually a good point. For example, if I was doing Lego, I would want to learn how to make my own mock builds, MOC builds. Do you guys do Lego at all? You guys know anything about Lego?
Starting point is 00:17:53 I have nephews. Yeah. Not different Legos. Exactly. We're talking about a different Lego. I promise you the exact same ones. 18 and up. My point being that some people take it and they
Starting point is 00:18:05 just build a set and they're like here's how to make it and it tells you all the instructions whereas creative people like myself dr mcbrick we would go and do our own mocs like our our own creations or whatever so it's a similar sort of thing you know you gotta learn how to do it well let's check in with the home brewingrewing forum. Homebrew talk. Where a mead rat says, why do people quit brewing? I mean, some of them liver stuff, maybe liver stuff sometimes, like, you know, issues or whatever. Grandpa, why'd you stop drinking? Grandpa's in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I liked it when you drank better dad this is like when i went to rehab and there was one day i was there for three weeks and i was outpatient one day all three of those weeks i had to bring somebody with me right like a friend or somebody who had been affected by my you know painkiller addiction first week first week i bring my wife and they're like how did it affect you and she was like i don't i mean not really that much that's a day one hold it down type lady you know hey look honestly he's pretty funny when he's on that shit she has you guys have no i don't know if he like brian and his wife have known each other their entire lives yeah yeah so yeah she was like it doesn't bother me really and you know he seemed like he was having fun i'm here for him
Starting point is 00:19:37 brian's wife is really the coolest you hear about what she puts up with with brian just like sulking around because he like has to wear sleeves when he goes outside or something like it's just so the next week i bring my buddy uh rory who's a friend of mine and they're like let's draw a picture of how brian made you feel when he was on the drugs and rory drew a picture of me looking like a giraffe and the lady was like so what what does that say to you and he was like I think he's like a cool giraffe Rory's just like was he doing it as a goof was he like goofing he didn't care that's nobody care about much about it where were you
Starting point is 00:20:25 like why did you go to were you like it was a money thing i was spending like 400 a week but i mean did you you decided to go to rehab or was it court ordered or what okay no nobody told me i had to go to re i decided to go to rehab because i had a meltdown in a guy's house at the cable company because my pill dealer oh buddy could i sorry to stop the epic can we hear a little bit about you having a meltdown inside a client's house because you couldn't get a hold of your pill dealer well he was such a pain in the ass like you get up in the morning i hey if you got you got some pain in your ass i got a guy for you that can help you you get up in the morning and you call him and you'd be like meet me at one you get to the place
Starting point is 00:21:05 at one i can't get there until three you leave and you're in your work van and you're in a day of work you have to get all this done in between jobs and you guys know they just change the time over and over and over this is what's happening you're telling me what i'm waiting for my fucking cable guy to show up in that window he's waiting for his build trying to get some oxys like yeah that's what i was doing i'll give him a little bit more leeway if that's the case fair enough i get to this fucking guy i i'm like i'm gonna pick it up before i go to this guy's house and do the cable so i go to where i'm meeting and he's like i can't make it yet you need to give me like two more hours i get to this guy's house and i just can't i can't work
Starting point is 00:21:50 on the cable at all like i just can't do it i can't focus on anything i'm like i'm not gonna be able to get fucking pills today if i don't get out of this yeah the guy was home i was walking up and down the steps and out of my van and And I just kept walking back and forth from his basement to my van, from his basement to my van, and not doing any work. And I don't even remember how I got out of his house. I just – I think he was like, this guy seems distressed. I'm just going to let him go. So then – so did you get totally clean at that point? It was after that, that i was i was
Starting point is 00:22:26 clean for like two years and i started doing weed again and then now i'm just like whatever i do whatever i want so i mean i mean it's mostly clean but when he says that he like doesn't do drugs and stuff i don't know why he said it no i look i have if i can get them, I do them. I just don't, you have to, you know, as a family man, sometimes the Lord calls you, you know, look, I, I look, I completely understand the Batman symbol in the, in the sky. Yeah. Sometimes you gotta do drugs, man. No, I'll do drugs. Although I have had the same ketamine since 2020. So I don't think I'm that much of a druggie, but this guy goes,
Starting point is 00:23:06 I just answered this question as to, will you ever quit brewing as a brewer? I wonder why my thoughts are some of us make it too complicated. We make it too expensive. People do this for the wrong reasons. When somebody talks to me about brewing, I asked them why they don't want to brew for me. It's the recipe. I love to cook. I love to sit down with a real chef and discuss recipes to make real beer at six to seven hours of being attentive and making notes on what you're doing. So this guy is he's asking why you would quit brewing. First guy says people quit home brewing. So he's joking. That's some that is humor on the, like, sometimes they'll do humor on the boards,
Starting point is 00:23:49 and you have to be able to pick it out. They're kind of goofing with each other. Like, is that even a thing? Oh. Here's a bunch of guys with jaundice sending, like, smirk faces. The next one says, the tree fell in the woods, and now we're asking if it made a sound yeah so that's like yes yeah that's i guess like that one doesn't really hit for me but then our
Starting point is 00:24:12 op comes back and goes so i guess neither of you has an opinion so he's mad now that's another thing that has that happens a lot too is like somebody who's and this person you could tell is very passionate about it they're like i love seven hours of sitting there with a recipe and and then just getting a bunch of fucking yahoos and the replies like goofing off and he's like buddy i'm i want some fucking answers it's it's funny that like the i always felt the home brewers like the guys who like the guys who make it like their suburban dad hobby and they spend a ton of money on it like you're gentrifying moonshining like you're making it like you this is something that like guys in the foothills of Appalachia did because their meth wasn't moving like they thought like this is and you're like
Starting point is 00:24:55 well I bought a copper still and it costs and it and and it added to the flavor in this way and they're having like art like forum arguments about it when you're just making you're making a rich guy hobby out of like a poor man's yeah well it's like i mean the same thing i was saying like the people i knew used to do it because they were poor they would do it you know they would make it because they're poor and now these rich people have come along and taken it over and made it shitty and it's funny because like i've read a ton of homebrew stuff over the past two days. A lot of them are really bad at making beer. It generally tastes pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I've seen people say, why does my homebrew smell like rotten eggs? Then the other big problem, it doesn't get me drunk. They help fuck up and all the alcohol is gone. Just making non-alcoholic beer for like – Just drinking egg fart juice that doesn't make you fucking – Dude, spending fucking three weeks and like three grand to make O'Doul's in your garage is like so badass. It tastes like absolute shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Hey, this is my new beer, guys. I've been working on it for like a month. I know guys been waiting on it um it's called dog shit it doesn't get you fucked up and it cost me six grand it doesn't get you fucked at all no it literally like has it has the same alcohol content as welch's grape juice buddy if you are drunk if you are drunk can you drink this you will sober up yeah i made anti-beer like i fucking made like a a different type of shit completely we did get a real answer from home brewer 99 who has a very funny avatar it says save water drink beer nice you guys have heard that i think the number one reason for quit brewing goes hand in hand with a spouse and sick and tired. Hell yeah. All ladies said I had to quit making non-alcoholic shit juice in the garage.
Starting point is 00:26:57 My wife was fucking getting mad at me just because our garage smelled like rotten eggs. I like the guy that says rotten eggs and then the people uh will correct them and be like it's sulfur it's actually yeah it's so that smells like rotten eggs it's a thing that they put into um like whatever the stink bombs or whatever yes and i do think this guy doesn't actually have his priority straight. Because first he goes, it's a spouse sick and tired of their hobby, right? So he's saying it's a spouse that's sick and tired of them having a hobby. And that's bullshit because, you know, everybody's got to have a hobby or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And then the next time he buries the lead, because the next thing he says is probably the real reason. Them getting drunk all the time and threatening with a divorce. And then number two has to not be pleased with their results this probably stems from a lack of drive and a lack of patience to allow the brew to come into its full potential and uh i kind of really like that because he says uh listen the only reason somebody wouldn't get divorced over their beer is if they only made bad beer. Yeah, if you make good beer, you won't get a divorce. It's funny to talk about beer you're making at your house like a star rookie quarterback.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's not quite there. He's facing it. It's coming down to pop. It's going to get good. Yeah, I can feel it. Honestly, you're trying to explain it to your wife. I can feel it. Honestly, you're trying to explain it to your wife.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You think that the good people of Coors had it nailed in the first eight months? Give me a little bit of time, sweetie. And she just wants a little bit of quality time with her husband. She wants maybe a hobby that doesn't result in him getting blackout drunk every time he does it. I don't know. Well, there's so many of these hobbies, I think. And I'm sure you guys have seen a lot of this in doing the show. Guys, I feel like a lot of this stuff is like what I like to call wife escapement fantasy. Hobbies that exist primarily for men who are in like dead in marriages, but got kids or whatever, or can't leave, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And they're like, I i'm gonna get really into making beer from 2000 bc egypt in my apartment 2024 or you know i'm gonna i'm gonna get into like bourbon or whatever and it's all just like a way to like escape the nagging wife or whatever that she doesn't like it like that's important that's why there's so much of this like yeah that it's critical that she actually hates it because she can't want anything to do with it because you want to be a waver. It's going to create this wedge on purpose. You got to be careful that the wedge
Starting point is 00:29:31 doesn't get a little too big and then it results in a divorce or whatever. Then she could take the homebrew kit and the fucking divorce and you... Let me read you this one. Beer Muncher says, I have two other reasons. Better than Beer Chomper. Yeah, you don't want a Beer Chomper.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Love it, but can't do it anymore. Let's face it. Brewing your own beer lends itself to more drinking. It's more handy, more tasty. It's the fruit of our labor, and there is always the next recipe to try. More drinking for some will result in a downward slide to the point where they hit the old, my life has got to change stage in life. Next thing you know, their stuff is on Craigslist.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I have two fermenters, 85 bottles, a capper, and a bunch of other odds and ends just from such an individual. So, yeah, that's somebody who recognized that they had a pretty serious issue. That's the people you really want to because you can get their shit for cheap you know when they're like oh i'm having this existential crisis i'm you know my all my relationships are getting destroyed and it's like oh really care to sell me that at half price please that's what you want to jump in they uh i mean like it's one argument against like the legalization of all drugs because you know in america there would be like a new masculine culture and guys would be like processing coke in their garage and oh yeah
Starting point is 00:30:49 goofy ass names marketing companies would get behind it you know wives would leave it's like oh i'm just making my own batch babe you know yeah i look into i i mean every time it sounds like they might legalize weed for you to grow here, I've never grown a fucking thing in my life. I never grow a thing of flour or whatever. I'm like, I got to grow some weed when it becomes legal, because I think I'd be really good. I think I'd actually be really good at growing weed. No, I wouldn't. I would wager that a vast majority of people who drop out of the home brewing never really made a good batch, probably because they were using crappy kit and kilo kits.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It just had a lot of bad. Yeah, that's. Yeah. Don't buy a kit. Okay. That's for lazy people and idiots. Either that or just looking for a quick buzz and weren't really appreciative of good beer. Well, just looking for a quick buzz.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I mean, I think those people are going to the bar and they're going to the store. That's really not... Fuck, dude. I need a beer. I just got off work. I need three weeks to make a fucking shit-ass bastard piss in my fucking garage. God damn, my old lady's barking up my fucking tree.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Boss is fucking chopping up my beer. Oh, yeah. I'm imagining a guy bringing a girl like home from dinner or whatever it's like the first date he's like want me to get you a drink and she's like sure and he just like starts like he like grabs a bunch of like mash or whatever he's in the garage for the next six hours just comes out his face is like black or whatever he's all right come back in like six months explaining to her the process i mean that's i think some of the the reason you'd feel if it's not for being drunk
Starting point is 00:32:32 and just being a maniac you have to feel for the wives having to hear about the process of this because i read so much shit from homebrewers and the process couldn't be more boring to read and i'm sure they think it's like incredibly interested the last guy here said drunkenness i'll quit when i have to save my marriage or i'll quit being married when i have to save my brewing one or the other hasn't come up yet so that guy's doing it that's cool his wife is like they're staying out of each other's hair for yeah for sure yeah yeah that's it's it like a lot of guys haven't haven't had gone to some meetings of my own and haven't and haven't, you know, like I spent some time and, you know, as as not exactly as Brian did, but in a mental health facility and a lot of addicts and struggling with it. you know it's funny as fuck to like to be like hey look not you know guys sober guys that get sober they need a hobby so they get into aquariums or carpentry you just get into making alcohol
Starting point is 00:33:32 like you know what i mean like like in aa they tell you to like find something to occupy your mind and your time in your hands and then you're like oh i got it i'm gonna make utopia in my shitty fucking bathtub and and sell it to my friends. Yeah. So begging me to quit pills and alcohol, they are literally texting me every day. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:33:52 no, I got it. I'm going to get past it. Yeah. Well, you got to understand guys, is this beer that I'm brewing? It's fucking basically doesn't have any alcohol.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Well, here's a question. they asked on beer advocate prefer to drink alone good post here it's always been my preference to drink beer alone i enjoy beer more in a quiet solitary environment ideally sitting outside on a nice day with a cooler of ice cold beer so what's your preference drinking alone or drinking socially so i guess i understand what he's saying a little bit like i think though drinking socially is the way to go right i'm sharing some good times with friends and it helps to like get you a little bit more
Starting point is 00:34:47 social and a little bit more like talkative or whatever that's drunk probably you know i think you're way likely to get more drunk alone oh i don't know about that oh i disagree with that your boys will get you my friends are some motivators i'll tell you oh yeah mine too when i was younger, it was like – I've got some boys who push me to the – they're like David Goggins, but like drinking. Yeah. We used to have –
Starting point is 00:35:11 we would go to the United States of America because you could just get some – I live in Canada. What a great country. We would come – my friend had a like – I forget, some sort of like a place that he um like his parents had a summer place and we would go there and we would have competitions like vomiting competitions where we would just
Starting point is 00:35:32 like be drinking so much of this beer you know and just trying to make ourselves puke and get the biggest pile so like that's how much they could motivate me to drink. You know, like they could get me drinking like 30 beers at a time or whatever. Right. Well, I like the, I think the drinking alone thing is, is I want to, to his comment,
Starting point is 00:35:53 I understand and really can appreciate after a hard day of work, you crack open, maybe you have a few tall boys, but he's the operative word in that post was cooler. He had a full cooler. He is not talking about having a couple of cold ones. That guy was going on vacation by himself, essentially. Yes, he was sitting there and getting drunk.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And I think that probably, although I mean, hey, listen, I'll eat a weed edible, I guess, by myself and watch a movie or whatever. So I can't really judge but i mean i think it is more indicative of having some type of an addiction to it if you're sitting there by yourself and just getting completely hammered you know but you know in a way maybe he's training you know where next time he's out with his boys his tolerance is super high he's slamming beers he's doing great he's not throwing. He's the life of the party. And people think, how did this guy become so cool? He's only 45 and he drinks so much.
Starting point is 00:36:56 How could he handle so many beers at the tender age of 45? Yeah, that's actually smart, trading it up. Because, fuck, if you're out with your boys, I don't know if you guys go out with your boys. Do you guys go out with your boys ever? We like going out with our boys sometimes. Yeah, yeah. So sometimes you're out with your boys, and if't know if you guys go out with your boys, you guys go out with your boys ever like going out with our boys. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes you're out with your boys and if, and if they notice,
Starting point is 00:37:08 they look over there like, Holy fuck. Thomas is fucking, you notice Thomas is knocked back about 10, 15 today. They're fucking going crazy for you. He's driving home. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:19 He's awesome. He's awesome. I'm getting a ride with him. Yeah. I, yeah, it's the idea of, of being a person who's like, okay, just from the base level of this current thing we're discussing, you're going on a forum to ask alcoholics if it's normal to be an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like, hey, guys, I don't know how your your guys lives are going i got a 24 beers in a cooler and i'm alone and everybody's like so yeah that was pretty cool to me sounds like your life is going great big doggie sitting on their porch with their own cooler saying like oh good this guy does it so yeah totally so much of like my pill addiction got out of control because of that it's like oh i took six last night but he took like 15 so i mean come on right i don't crush him up he crushes him up that was such a thing for me for a very long time i don't crush the pills up and snort them so i'm not addicted to them i just take them all in one that's then i got to crushing them up and pouring them crushing them up on a paper plate and like wrapping it up and pouring them into my mouth and then i was like
Starting point is 00:38:36 okay now i gotta i'm really addicted to it give me credit for that you didn't try to justify it as soon as you started crushing them up, you're like, oh, fuck, I'm doing the crushing them up thing. Well, Sparty1965 said, I had a friend who always said, I only drink on days that end with a Y and only at parties of one. Okay, hang on.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Oh, that's bad. At first, I'm like, yeah, it's like a thing people say, but only at parties of one. Dude, that's bad. Yeah. I drink alone every day. It's just what I do. But not being willing to drink around other people.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You're just so dead set on it. You're like, no, I got it all figured out. Just by myself. It's like masturbating. Thursday, Friday. It's every one. Every single one of them. Literally every one. I just did the math on it i just drink it damn near any day bub seymour says i'm fine either way not
Starting point is 00:39:32 sure i have a preference although i get frustrated drinking a new craft beer i've never had before in a party slash social situation outside of a bottle share as i don't fully appreciate the beer i would either prefer to drink that beer alone or sharing and commenting with one or two of my close beer nerds oh brutal so i know this is a fucking loser sorry i'm and i apologize because i know there's some beer this fucking loser is like i can't enjoy this beer because i can't talk about it with people I can't enjoy this beer because I can't talk about it with people. This guy's like, I kind of like putting the beer up my ass. Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Like, what the fuck? You need to have that conversation about it or it's not enjoyable for you. Like, that's fucked up. If you have to gust, like, I knew a lot of sommeliers. Like, I worked with a ton of them and, like wine people and they swear up and fucking down that you can taste like it's just grapes in there dude and you can and you can taste apricot and coffee no you're but anyway to to dress up being a lush in like artistic language like oh you know the i wonder what the brewer was thinking when he went with orange peel. You're drinking 15 beers.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Like, you're not any better than some dude from Alabama who drinks piss water and fucking throws his kids in the pool. We did wine guys, and we talked about wine guys being. That is a lot of them are probably beer guys. Same thing. But, yeah, a lot of them are just. Which, fair enough we all want to like justify our like existence or like right reason we do stuff or whatever and not feel like uh but yeah there is an awful lot of wine guys who are alcoholics that just
Starting point is 00:41:18 want to feel you know but i i feel like like wine and like bourbon and stuff like that, those are at least, at least have been high class things to some extent for a while. But being a beer guy, it's like, why would, just drink regular beer. Or like go to the bar and get like an ale or something. Like they have, every bar has like 40 beers now on tap. It's like they're good. And the bartender has to now on tap. It's like, they're good. And the bartender has to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It's his job. Like he has to have a conversation with you about it. You know, he's forced to, he's stuck there. I was going to, I was, when,
Starting point is 00:41:56 when you asked us to do this, Brian, I was going to ask you if you heard, so after the Bud Light deal, did you, did you see that that guy made the ultra right conservative American dad beer? Oh, the guy that made the candy bars, too. Right. Is it the same guy?
Starting point is 00:42:14 Buddy, I not only do I know that guy, I interviewed him on my show. The guy who did the no way the anti woke beer. The ultra right is what it's called yeah and and he did a he did a uh he did a commercial for it where he was throwing a baseball yes yes um and so i did this whole interview i have a channel where i trick like conservative people into coming on for interviews oh okay that's cool yeah so but yeah i had him on and i and the crux of it was that i was like a baseball guy who was teaching him how to throw because he didn't know how to throw. And very funny.
Starting point is 00:42:49 He was so fucking mad at me when he realized what it was that I was like taking the piss out of him. That guy is one of the biggest fucking losers I've ever seen with those guys. So Dan Crenshaw, a politician from Texas. And I and I. Sorry. Sorry. I also called him and pranked him on his cell phone once. I'm really sorry to do this, but it was the only one that people got in trouble and got mad at me for because I said, hey, there's something you're missing, Dan, with this whole thing. And I think I know why you're missing it.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And he was like, why? And I was like, because it's just to the right of your face. And that's the only time anyone has ever gotten mad at me and like got mad at me about being ableist or whatever anyway sorry no that's okay they they um i watched guys who are like like hardcore you know fucking american like pro whatever you know guys realize what monopolies are in real time because these guys were like oh i'm boycott and bud light i'm gonna drink michelob and then i would see posts from like guys i went to high school with it were like i don't know if y'all like they were uncovering secrets of the universe like guys i don't know this but anheuser-busch they own corona they own michelob they own carbac even your favorite craft
Starting point is 00:44:02 beers owned by anheuser and they all support the trans movement so what am i supposed to drink and it's like are you gonna quit drinking alcohol because you're so transphobic like you're gonna quit you're gonna go sober because you like hate you know gay people so what ended up happening was they were too big of alcoholics to actually stop and they just kept drinking bud light that's what happened yes they just gave up on the boycott because they're and now it's like accepted again because That's what happened. And they just gave up on the boycott. And now it's accepted again because there's so many of those fucking people just couldn't drink anything other than Bud Light.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Those guys got really... I saw one dude get pissed off because he switched to Miller. And then somebody just... It was on a YouTube video. And he posted on Twitter too with some fucking conservative journalist guy. I was like, never liked Miller.
Starting point is 00:44:43 But had to make a switch. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah and in the replies someone sent a screenshot of the miller cores website home page where the mountains had a fucking rainbow the peaks were all like rainbow colored and the dude was like like in the replies to his own post like i can't live here anymore like just completely losing his mind this guy rue, Rue Jean says, I prefer to drink alone, but not an ice cold beer because I keep the best beers for me. Wink. When I go out, I have to share the beers of people that don't have the same taste as me.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And in bars, the best beers cost a fortune. Also, when you drink with more people, you need to drink more to keep the party going. That's an interesting one that this guy knows he might relax a bit uh as from oz says solo drinker i can go at my own pace do what i want read a book stare at the clouds write some highfalutin nonsense i'm beer advocate and enjoy the company
Starting point is 00:45:38 of oh my god so this guy has included in his daily routine posting on the beer forums. He's actually like thinking about how that he's going to drink a beer and post on the forums. That is a true beer guy. Does Heifel Luton mean poetry? I think that's what he's saying. Yeah. Or like he's writing literature about his beers, you know. And the last guy, this is for the big guys heads here.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Dog bite Williams. He says, I'm a loner in general. I don't like loud rock music. Many bars and nightclubs would have a terrible ambiance for me. What's that guy's name? This is an inside thing. We have a famous guy from it's called Tony K who that's this this big gripe is every every place he's ever been into he gives it one star because the music is too loud rock music it does not matter what he's
Starting point is 00:46:34 at a pizza place he's like it's the best pizza i've ever had in my life one star because they're playing loud rock music and so yeah uh we got a guy here let's see here uh well let's see let me see what we got here uh oh here's a question from b walcott on our beer as an avid our beer reader and drinker i decided i recently received some heat from one of my buddies claiming i drink too much and my buddy my or my wife or buddy whatever you want to call it i explained to him my passion and hobby relating to craft beers and logically the consumption of them i explained that on average week i drink between 10 to 14 beers i usually drink two to three man sodas a night that's a different that's a way of for a beer guy beer you guys yeah man soda would be a
Starting point is 00:47:27 way it's kind of like a soda but it has it's got alcohol so how many more beers like what number do we think that's not a lot of beer i was gonna say who's this guy's friend a mormon or am i fucked up no you're not fucked up that's not. But also, I think he's probably lying about it. His first estimate was two to three. It was what? Ten to fourteen. And then he said two to three at night. So that's fourteen to twenty one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So I'm and I'm thinking that a lot of the times people who are addicts or whatever will try to minimize whatever the thing is that they're addicted to. I usually have like a sip every night. I have a sip of one beer i have one single sip i'm almost done my first beer this year that i opened up january 1st um but yeah this guy i'm guessing you're probably like if one of his friends is like who knows him really well is concerned about it or whatever it seems like maybe it you know he does probably have a problem but who knows who knows yeah yeah i was gonna say it's it's if your friend is like dude you are acting like an absolute asshole yeah i'd like to course banquet tall boys your friend is like yeah like a deacon at a church or like you know or you really can't handle your alcohol yeah like yeah like you weigh 10 pounds like you're a bug like you're
Starting point is 00:48:45 i think it's four i would guess it's four to six high test beers per night like four to six ipas that have a shitload of alcohol in them is what i would guess but then he goes like this he goes uh he made a fairly articulate rebuttal claiming that I shouldn't be drinking more than a six pack a week. Citing health jargon. Okay, hang on. So I'm sorry. Alan Dershowitz. Yeah, I'm kind of back on this guy's side now.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I don't drink at all, but I shouldn't drink more than six beers a week. That seems low. Somebody linked the CDC like definition of alcohol abuse and for men it was like more than four to six a week no it's like it's like 10 to 14 i think is it i thought it was way less for for women it's like 10 or something like that a week but like last time i was at the doctor they were like do you drink and i was like yes and they were like what would you consider your level? I just said, can you just
Starting point is 00:49:47 put whatever the normal amount is? I was like, it's not like anything crazy, but I don't want you to yell at me. Just say normal. I was at my doctor, and my doctor asked me if I drank. I was like, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Then he's just like, would you like whiskey? want whiskey or you want he had a whole damn bar there he was serving drink well this is where the the subreddit really gets into a uh interesting spot here actually according to a number of studies i have read you are well under what is considered unhealthy to drink in a week a lot of studies i've read say to keep it at 21 or less per week and try to keep it at two a night. It also has a lot to do with culture. I mean, I drink one liter of beer a night with my family just eating dinner and that's
Starting point is 00:50:37 standard, but we are in Germany. So this guy is now, okay. So now he's like, I drink 14 and this next guy is like, well, you could drink up to 21. You could have another one. Hey man, like I drink 14 a week in the like all 10 replies are like, dude, you got seven more to go.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Well, that's what it is. This guy goes during the week i drink around three to four beers a night each beer averaging anywhere from six to ten percent abv i drink maybe around six to eight beers on friday and saturday nights since i'm usually at a bar with my friends the beers i order at bars are normally not as high in alcohol and he's 100 lying about the amount he drinks when he goes out to the bar with his friends he's also an alcoholic even by his estimations though this person like you're drinking three to four a night on every weekend you're having six to eight or whatever drinks
Starting point is 00:51:36 that's an alcoholic to me you know 60 drinks a week yeah that's a quite a few drinks yeah and this guy goes i've been told that i drink much, just like what your buddy said to you. I may drink a lot, but I'm never late to work. Oh, I love this. This is because I'm a drug addict, so this is beautiful to me. I'm never late to work. I don't get mood swings. I keep promises.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I don't drink until I black out, and i can easily go a day without drinking listen if a guy tells you if a guy who drinks a lot of alcohol has to say hey i keep my promises that guy has broken lots of yeah and i mean i mean there are i'm there are definitely people who drink more than like the amount that we're talking about. And it's not a problem for them. Sure, sure. So I think that definitely exists. And depending on what your life is and what you do.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Jake and I were talking about this recently. My favorite dumb guy excuse for just being kind of a bad guy is you just say, hey, I handle my business. Yeah, yeah. Because that doesn't mean anything. It means nothing. i handle my business yeah yeah because it doesn't that doesn't mean anything it means i handle my business when a week comes around i you know i handle my business i do a lot of coke i do a lot of heroin but dude i handle my business at the end of the day dude i used to say that to people who would like just hey hey bro like you good and i'm like listen man i fucking can't pay my rent but i handle my business i handle my business
Starting point is 00:53:05 like when my landlord bothers me but i have the conversation with yeah i handle my business guys who like like are not on good terms with their kids love to say like dude yeah i handle my business i take care of my family at the end of the day at the end of the day i take care of my family pay child support once every four months yeah i keep a roof over my head you know what i mean a bare minimum of what an adult man has to do is like a herculean effort yeah you're like the day i handle my business and yeah by that he means like literally like puts clothes on and goes to the store um i like this guy this is a problem uh from this guy l4 adventure and he says how hard is it to find a heady topper by the alchemist i drank one of my friends the other day and feel
Starting point is 00:53:56 kind of bad about it wait what i don't know what that is oh we're gonna find out so i went over to a friend's house i don't know him super well, so we're not very close yet, but we were a couple of people in his house. I brought a six-pack and shared. Everyone else did like a usual get-together, you know. Well, I opened his fridge to grab another beer, and at one point during the night and saw he had a four-pack of heady topper near the back. We had just got back from Vermont, too. we were in the west coast i'm not super knowledgeable about beer but i did recognize the can and knew it was a very highly rated beer i grabbed one and i was like oh damn i hear this beer is amazing right can you have one
Starting point is 00:54:35 he was like uh yeah sure drank the whole thing it was delicious thanked him whatever thing is i later looked it up to see if they sold it near me and now i see that this beer is apparently the highest rated beer in the u.s and i just see forums of people talking about how long they've been on wait lists to be able to get one of these beers and how people fly to vermont from all over the world to snag a four pack also he's kind of shy and i'm afraid that if he didn't want me to drink one of his prize possession beers he might not have been confident enough to have spoken up and tell me no it's like current beer enthusiasm style yeah I was like like that's a real classic you know sitcom kind of thing listen he told you you can have it as long as you didn't pressure him as long as you didn't you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:55:20 yeah like if you just literally asked can I have have that beer? And he said, yes, there's nothing else you can do at that point. Well, he's asking if he should go buy him some. And all the guys are like, yeah, go buy him like a $25 pack. You know, go get them the expensive. That's what I would do. Everybody knows how I would solve this problem. I'd go to the store and buy the most expensive beer and give it to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Even if it's bad or you wouldn't even look at whether or not it's good. No, I wouldn't Google it it i wouldn't do anything i would walk into the beer store and i'd say sir give me the most expensive one and then he'll hand me the 200 sam adams utopia i'd be like the second most expensive one i don't think that they sell sam do they just sell it at a regular liquor store but you have to sign up uh so let's look at some reviews i found sign up you have to sign up for what so what it's like pappy you have to wait on a list waiting they're ready to give you yes yeah that's what i mean it's not like sitting there you can't just like pull up and buy it you know so we got this brew fashion beer maker kit um i it's 150 and it's you can make your own beer out of it which is exciting
Starting point is 00:56:28 really uh martin clark bought it and he said great if you want to make yourself sick i have been looking to do that lately yeah i'm in the business of getting fucking sick as shit, bro. As long as I don't get drunk first, though. I hate getting drunk. It's easy to follow instructions, which I did to the letter. Unfortunately, made myself and the two other people who tasted it sick. Oh, brutal. You had other people as well. He, like, pulls the pamphlet out and, like, opens the first page and peels the sticker back, and it says,
Starting point is 00:57:02 Poison-Making Kit. Like, he's like, No, not again! Fuck! God, I got my ass again. Could you imagine how bad you would feel? Because he goes, I was brewed to be ready for a party. Result was party ending rather rapidly when every guest who tried the beer started vomiting.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Dude, what the fuck did he make? Yeah, what the fuck? I don't know. Like, EpiCac? Like, he just fucking took a sip and they puked? The thing about this review is this is a four-star, four out of five star. No, this is a one-star.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But this beer-making kit is four stars, 913 reviews. Okay. So whatever this guy did. He was just shitting in it. He was just like, I had to pit. Yeah. And then Wayne from the United States says two stars, no alcohol. I did this set and seemed to be no alcohol in it.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So that was his whole review. Wait. So I wonder if he thought he was buying a kit that had beer. He didn't have. Or did he make beer with no booze? Like he thought he was buying a kit that had beer he didn't have or did he make beer with no booze like he thought he was getting i think it's very easy to make beer that doesn't have alcohol my guess i'm not into the science or any of that i don't know any of that stuff i wonder if the process by which you make uh the fermenting happens takes a certain amount of time and if you're impatient and you just fucking are like that's been enough time i'm gonna do it it might not have the right
Starting point is 00:58:33 amount of alcohol in it yeah because you know you don't just add alcohol you don't just like it's a little bottle and you put it in right it's like something that happens in the process right yeah you you can make like people that make meat it takes like a month yeah it takes time yeah when you do wine you from yeah it takes it takes a long ass time durango's so pissed off about this uh craft brewing uh kit that he got that was uh 65 and he's pissed he's like what a waste of money. Worst gift ever. What you don't get are the bottles. So you have to buy either Grosbeer, $10 for a four-pack. You need two.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Or special bottles, caps, and a capper. About $40. Wait. So those are your only two options? Just buy your own bottle or Grosbeer? Yeah, you can Grosbeer. It's because Grosbeer like screw-on tops or something? I think it has those weird tops.
Starting point is 00:59:29 The thunk. They have the little. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of those. And he goes, I followed the instruction and got to fermenting, and the tube blew out, spreading brown sticky goo all over the floor. Oh, no. I hate when that happens.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Thankfully, it was all in tile so all i have now are some near worthless gallon jugs some tubes another 25 to try again no way for six bottles of beer i'd rather really want to never drink again what a ripoff i did contact the company never got a response so that tells you a lot Tile implies he was doing this shit in his fucking kitchen. You know his old lady's done. If you want to hear a question, guys, I'm going to read you this question real quick. I think you're going to be like, oh, no, this guy's in trouble. I got to find it. Yeah, these are the ones relating to alcohol because we deal with it on guys a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:31 The relationships, how it like you know but when alcohol is thrown in the mix as well you know that i feel like this is just like the biggest recipe for like a relationship killer to be really into alcohol or here's a tough one here's a tough one here's the question i was going to tell you this is from arlto DC. Brewing in a condo. My wife wants to make sure we can deal with the smell. I have never brewed before, but I'm interested in making smaller batches since I don't have a lot of room for equipment. I live in an 800 square foot, one bedroom condo. My wife is concerned about the smell, but is okay with it for the brew day. I do not have access to vent out of a window i'm looking for a system that will contain all the smell has anyone
Starting point is 01:01:12 successfully done this with very small little smell in a small space i'm willing to purchase something to contain everything if required uh i've been reading about crap like homebrewing people and you can't there's the smell is there it's just my wife's okay with it you i would love to have heard the tone in which she said she was okay with it you know what i mean like oh yeah okay yeah yeah it's like yeah in the same way that you're like hey yeah like me and the worst guys that i know personally we're gonna go out tonight and you know what like okay great yeah like it sounds like she's she's actually bringing up a concern so you know she has a problem with it she's like but what about the smell like i've heard that you know that there's a lot of smell issues
Starting point is 01:02:03 and then he's just like listen we're fucking doing homebrew and whether or not you fucking you know and she's like okay sure yeah 800 square foot condo is not big enough to do this stuff and there's like a weird like to the thing really about the bourbon guys like they're a part of this too i feel like is in a certain like part of maybe the internet or just culture at large in general like it's manly to be a drunk guy like like men can oh i can oh tony he could really put it away he's a heavyweight you know what i mean and so like if you get looped into that like however through like marketing or your friends or all beer guys or whatever and you bring it to your wife and
Starting point is 01:02:43 you're like hey this new thing i'm gonna get into means i'm gonna drink more and i'm gonna spend hundreds of dollars extra on it also yeah like not only am i going to drink and consume more alcohol which is probably already a problem that we have i'm gonna spend hundreds of dollars and i'm gonna do it in the living room of our 800 square foot and it's gonna fucking stank here's like a totally different thing than some of these things because like when we did bourbon guys there was all the i couldn't find people sneaking beer into the house because bourbon guys be bourbon guys were like my wife doesn't want me spending a bunch of money on it so i keep two bottles upstairs and then i sneak the other ones down to the basement and she just doesn't know that it's a new thing part of the collection we did that with the guitar guys we're like i you know i keep one guitar in the living room and then i put
Starting point is 01:03:34 five guitars that's hanging around for a long time beer doesn't hang around for as long right you get beer and then you drink it right like beer you're not you know you're not sitting and like having it like sit around so i think you know you're not sitting and like having it like sit around so i think you don't have to hide it in that that's my thing it's like it's not like a fucking five thousand dollar gibson you can give your son you know what i mean like oh yeah even even like a nice bottle dude maybe even you could stretch it and be like a really rare bottle of scotch that if you're that type of guy you give it to your boy yeah maybe when he turns 18 but a beer if my listen i was about to say if my dad
Starting point is 01:04:11 gave me a beer as a gift my dad gave me many beers as many and your dad's a home brewer he'll get he'll pass you down some stuff actually it ain't gonna be anything worthwhile i'll tell you we got a game this week but i'm gonna read this one yes that's right ch I'll tell you. We got a game this week, but I'm going to read this one. Yes, that's right, Chris. A game. Wait, what? We got a game this week. I thought you completely abandoned that like 30 episodes ago.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Nope. We're playing a game. We got a game. This guy. Don't say it in that voice. People are going to get excited about it. Every game we've done is a huge, gigantic failure. So we'll see about this one, which is exactly like all the other ones.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Quest for a beer to last for 21 years. Hello, our beer. My wife is pregnant with our first child because beer is something that is important to me and my life. I thought it might be a cool way to share this with my unborn child beautiful oh this is actually kind of so i see he wants to buy a beer and then have it last for long enough so his boy could drink it yeah 21 years because then yeah in canada we could do it 19 you would only have to keep it for 19 years till your boy could drink it that's actually a good idea i have as brian you know this i've got a boy on the way it's going to be coming my first
Starting point is 01:05:29 boy is going to be coming in about a month so maybe i'll look into this getting a getting a beer that i can share with nobody could give him one nobody they're like is there anything that might stand up to a 21 year cellaring process a really monstrous sour a barley wine any suggestions would be much appreciated no and this is a bad idea sir this is a stupid idea your first beer should be like a budweiser yeah it should be like oh i got a peach ghost or a kolsch or a nice sour for dude i'd be your dad hands you like a flagon with a fucking cork and a dude in 21 years it might be all different too it might be like whatever the beer you get for him now might be considered like really a race i'm really here you know you have no
Starting point is 01:06:16 idea i'm really glad you actually said that because a lot of the people in the comments are like this is a really good idea because if you're if your kid's first beer is a really like fancy craft be like a really nice 21 year aged craft beer then they'll have good taste in beer when they you know they're like maybe we'll have them drink maybe you should have them drink only 16 17 years old then he'll know what good beer is and he will know how not to binge drink in college and i'm like you just want to tell people with i i have a 19 year old there is nothing you can do to keep them from getting fucked up in college your dad handing you a beer at 21 and he's like
Starting point is 01:06:59 i saved this for you your first beer when i was, I had already had like 20,000 beers. No. I'm not pretending. The pressure of pretending. You can't tell your dad you don't like the 21-year beer. Dude, you could be like, Dad, this tastes like shit, and I fucking have had a billion beers. I just realized I quit drinking beer when I was 23, and I was like a seasoned drinker. You know, I already done so much drinking.
Starting point is 01:07:27 My last time getting drunk was 26 years old. Yeah. You have like, you're really hedging a lot that you raise like a Puritan, like Quaker son, you know, that's going to love like an old nasty ass fucking glass bottle beer instead of just any normal adult, like youthful adult in the u.s that's like by the time you hit 21 typically oh my god hang on though i just had the best thought can you imagine he hands him that fucking beer the 21 that he fucking drops that would be the that would be proper comedy right there the look on dad's face
Starting point is 01:08:08 or if his dad was like not a great dad and he gets it he hands it to his son and his son just throws it on the ground oh yeah son here's your beer it stinks like eggs and there's no alcohol yeah i made it myself yeah i made this myself in 2001 it's just for you this beer is the reason why we have two christmases i mean i it didn't come off like his wife was like that's cute you should you should get a 21 year old beer for the kid and like far i i would actually agree with the point that like, if you have a kid that has expressed interest in weed or beer when they're 17, 16 years old, then I mean, you can, they, you can teach them to be much more responsible with it on your own. You know what I mean? Not that I did it, but like one of my favorite things that my dad used to say
Starting point is 01:09:07 to me when he would like give me like some sort of high octane alcoholic beverage when i was like 13 or 14 he'd be like you're gonna drink uh away from the house so you need to learn how to uh drink alcohol and what your limit is but when you're in when i was that age i was like oh no i'm just getting drunk with my dad and that's what it was for him but you but to do it with your kid like again it's like gussying up something that white trash families do like i'm just getting fucked up with my old yeah yeah totally but you're dressing it up yeah this is like a thing a passing of the torch or kind of but it's like no you want to be drunk now and you have to look after your kid yes your kid's not eight anymore and he's already smoking weed and
Starting point is 01:09:51 drinking so you're like fuck it you want a budweiser like here dude like i never did i never did i never drank or like my my dad had stopped drinking and uh doing any kind of drugs when i was young and my mom drank a little bit, but was an alcoholic, and she got sober. So I never went through that. And I personally am happy that I didn't. I didn't have an admiration for my friends who would get fucked up with their parents.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I did because I wanted to go to their house. It was always so cool to be able to go to somebody's house and live free. Dude, I mean, it was cool, but I knew. I knew even at a young age i was like ah man i'm happy that i'm not you know i was the friend people would come over and want to come over because you could smoke in my living room yeah that was my shit and and my dad would just let whoever was at the house just drink as much as they wanted and it was like
Starting point is 01:10:42 people like if we oh well let's go over blake's place oh no blake's parents are religious oh well we could play halo we don't want to play halo we want to go watch jake's dad drink like 18 budweiser's and with metallica riffs on his fucking bc rich warlock in the garage i want to be clear i would have been there every single weekend at your house and i would have been having the best time ever yeah in the back of my head i would have been like you know i bet i bet jake would maybe like sometimes if his dad was like you know less of one of the guys and more of like you know a father figure i was thinking that in my head you know to the point of this guy's post it's like listen man just fucking just be one of the guys that's like here's a this is called a miller yeah you know you don't have to
Starting point is 01:11:26 fucking home drink 114 in one night yes exactly all right it's game time everybody i made up some fake beer names and some real beer names okay all around in a circle and you just real or fake so last time last time we played this i think we were playing with an expert right where um somebody who it was like a musical one and somebody oh yeah steve slagowski from pup but i got him a bunch of times too prog rock yeah that's right but so i think that was the last time i sent you a quiet message behind the scenes and i said don't you fucking dare embarrass me like that again in front of everybody by playing these games where i don't know what gaming down this one is more this one's more even because you guys aren't
Starting point is 01:12:14 proper beer guys or anything jake you might have a bit of an advantage because you worked in you know at the bar and everything but it's pretty much an even play i don't know if you can really have an advantage with the craft beer thing because a lot of them are very real names are so stupid it'll be like wizards lament stout you're like well our first beer is voodoo ranger and i'll start with chris real or fake fuck okay it's not funny so brian if he made this one up it's not a funny one so i'm gonna i'm gonna say that this is a real one all right jake that's real baby thomas thomas it's real that's all right yes did you almost call him tom and then you realize you didn't want to call him tom because tom well but you have to understand.
Starting point is 01:13:08 We figured out that a lot of people involved in sex clubs are named Tom. A ton. I could send you a list of guys named Tom that are in the swinger community. Yeah, there's a guy we watch named Tom and he hosts a thing
Starting point is 01:13:23 for Tom's trips, but guess what tom and he hosts a thing for tom's trips but guess what he's not the tom from tom's trips it's a different tom that owns tom's trips and his name's also tom and he's the host of the show and he employs three more toms and i'm not even fucking lying it's crazy really weird our next beer is rascally crazy you didn't say did you oh it was right yeah you it was real it was real we're all tied here rascally critter ale chris well i know brian pretty well i feel like this is some of his fucking brain would come up with so i'm gonna go with this one's a fake one okay jake i'll say fake thomas i'm gonna say fake but i'm i don't know after i said it i didn't want to i didn't want to say fake for now yeah but i didn't want to spoil anything but then when i said that i he
Starting point is 01:14:20 got that look at his face like he was all proud of himself so now well i um no actually it was fake yes yes i know i know rascally career that's the kind of thing he thinks of in his head i would never said rascal in my life how did i know that it was fake then, Brian? Okay. Our next one is pizza, pork, bacon, and eggs. Chris. Pizza, pork, bacon, and eggs. Okay. This one I feel like, I just don't feel like you would come up with the phrase like this. I feel like it's one of those stupid ones that the company came up with.
Starting point is 01:15:06 It's kind of like, oh, it's kind of stupid and silly and meant to catch your eye i don't think you even know a phrase like that brian so i'm gonna say this is real i don't know pizza when you asked me what my favorite food was and i said pizza and hamburgers you made fun of me for like three weeks well that is funny for a grown-up to say that that is so awesome that's so sick just and i love the honesty i i can imagine how brian literally said that and they just but just be like it's like a house you know like you know so many achieved things like i fucking love kids cuisine i like little seasons this is so sick um yeah pizza port bacon and eggs jake i will say because one of the beers it wasn't a draft as a bottle uh at this place called ables that i worked at in
Starting point is 01:15:58 austin it was a pizza flavored beard that we had gotten from a local brewery so i'm gonna go and say i don't i know they're not the same because I remember the name was different. I'm going to say it's real. It's one of those fucked up, weird, savory type shitty beers that they try to make. And Thomas. Just so we're not all doing the same thing, I'm going to say it's fake
Starting point is 01:16:18 even though it's probably real, but I'm just going to say it's fake. Thank you for doing that, Thomas. We got to keep it a little competitive. Thank pizza pork bacon and eggs is real now i'm fucked well uh this next one is an interesting one alpine nelson i'll ipa alpine nelson ipa and i just i try to think it like his brain You guys should go first because I don't think it's true. Okay. Jay, Alpine Nelson IPA.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Since we last played this game, I've learned so much about this guy's fucked up brain, and I understand it better. I'll say IPAs always have the dumbest, stupidest fucking names, and so I'll say that that's real. Thomas. I'm going to say it's fake. I'll be the skeptic. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:08 So I'm trying to think of Alpine nelson like what what was he thinking when brian but then sometimes he'll think like oh i'll just make a real sounding one to try to like fool them you know and then also half nelson i'm gonna say that that is i'm gonna say that's fake that one one's real. Baby, take it home three for three. The next one. Yeah, I should have known you. Fuck, I tried. I got two in my own. You know, I was like, oh, he's trying to do reverse psychology. I'm
Starting point is 01:17:36 giving him too much credit. Sexy beer is the next one. It's called sexy beer. I'm going to go with real. No's called sexy beer. I'm going to go with real. No, I'm not. I'm going to go with fake because I did fake twice in a row, and I got to fucking land it at some point.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And Jake? Sexy beer. Is that just – there's no – it's not an ale. Sexy beer is what it's called. Sexy beer. Look, even if it's fake, and you say it's's fake if i google it and it's real i get my point back because i'll say fake i'll say that's fake all right and chris i'm the same as jaygan that i think that you made it up brian because brian isn't he's he's like involved in that kind
Starting point is 01:18:21 of stuff and he thinks i'm not involved in the sex world and so i think that he's constantly thinking about it and i think he made it up but i also do think it's real and i don't think he did the due diligence of googling the ones to see if they are real even yeah i think it's gonna he's gonna say it's fake but then we're gonna look it up and it is gonna be real so what what's your my guess is fake well it is real and i searched sex beer like a one that was called sexy beer nice all right can you tell us a little bit about that one do you have any more i just googled it you gotta look it's a stout apparently oh that sounds about right what about stamp collector hazy ipa jesus fucking christ um the thing about the ipas again is is it a really popular one out here is called electric jellyfish yeah um and uh there's like a bunch of fucking like like the the four horsemen. Like it.
Starting point is 01:19:27 So when it comes to IPAs, I'll take the gamble and say real, because they really go over the top of the dumb ass names with them. I'm going fake. I have to be right at some point. And Chris Jake has been right on every single one so far, except the last one. We were all wrong.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So, but I'm going to, I'm going to stick with Thomas here. I'm going to say Brian made that one up. I'm going to say that one is fake. I made it up. Fuck. Two for goddamn. I made it up.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Okay. That means I'm only one back of Jake right now. So is there any more? Yeah, there's more. Okay. So I could. I've never won this before. You're tied with Jake.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Is that true? Don't even. You do this every fucking time yes okay okay i'm being really responsible here with you do it every you're like are you sure what's how do you know what anybody has i'm yeah score right here okay so i'm tied right this is exciting for me okay the next one is big Daddy Mad Logger. Big Daddy Mad Logger. Jake, I'll go real.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Thomas. I'm going to say... Fuck. I'm going to say, you know, fuck it. What did Jake say? Real. I'm going to say fake you know, fuck it. What did Jake say? Real. I'm going to say fake. Fuck you, Jake.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And I'm going to say, I'm thinking Big Daddy. He's thinking like Tom Likas. And also like Big Daddy is a sex thing as well. It's not a sex thing. So Brian's probably got that in his head. I'm going to say, say though that this one is i'm gonna try to take the lead on jake here and i'm gonna say fake it was fake shit yeah i do say the score is five to four to four so this is very close here wow okay this is huge okay so we got three more left we got tomato goes tomato goes jake i'll go real uh thomas
Starting point is 01:21:35 real yeah i feel like that one is like what would you because you wouldn't you wouldn't make up something so stupid do Do you know what I mean? That like, doesn't even sound like a, so I think that's real. And you all got it right. Nice. Five to five. All right. Here's one.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Uh, bung lover, IPA. Bung. Bung lover. IPA. Uh, Jake, I'll go.'ll go god damn it man this is what separates the fucking men from the beers all right i'll go i'm gonna go fake on that i just think i just there's something tell me this and i'll say this i on the last one i should go first because it allows me to because i'm one up on jake i can just guess whatever he guesses and then
Starting point is 01:22:25 I could just win. Okay, Thomas. Real. And what did you say, Jake? I said fake. I do think that it's fake probably because I think that's something Brian
Starting point is 01:22:43 would make up to try to push it a little bit far on the sex thing it's not a sex thing bung isn't a sex thing it's a beard well for you bung for you it's a sex thing i'm gonna say fake it's fake yeah you got it right and our last one is farting troy imperial stout chris okay so this is it farting troy imperial stout and so if i get this one right i win it you win and jake oh no you and jake are tied what you and jake are tied six six five is what i have so this you guys heard that right he doesn't know how to keep score you can hear why why i'm Now, I just took the lead there. It's 7-6-5 now.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That does make sense. I'm sorry. You guys, you understand now he just jumped down my throat about giving him a hard time on it. Now everybody got to hear the reason why. I can't wait to see the comments on this episode. I can't wait to see an actual flub, so they'll need
Starting point is 01:23:44 something. I may have fucked the score up. What's it called again? Farting Troy. I'm going to say real. Okay, I believe that that's real as well. That's my guess. Real. So Jake, you got to say fake if you want to have a chance to tie it. I'm going to lock it in and say
Starting point is 01:24:01 fake then. Just Jake and Chris tied? I cannot believe this and i don't have another one fuck man i was like i should get a few extra ones man it'll really be professional nope it's just gonna end like a tie this is like wrestling you gotta draw that's all right sometimes you just you go to a draw you go to a decision and no fuck that man come on get a get a fucking come on go find another question on google quick man we gotta fucking settle this right now gpt and put generate 1000 real and fake your name they just play this till like two in the morning tomorrow when we did what's funny about this
Starting point is 01:24:36 is when we did that we had the dough boys on to talk about hot sauce guys and i did this same game and the one that everybody got wrong but said should be real was farting juice or fart juice hot fart juice was what it was called yeah so i put a farting one in thinking like you know we'll trick them but you're right jake's right though a lot of these beer guys would put fart in the name of a totally they're all so stupid that that's kind of what makes this good for the game. Is that like, you know, it is. It's right for it.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Well, I feel the hot sauce one is complicated because anytime I go to like a gift shop in the south, like if I'm visiting somewhere like we went up to Tennessee on a road trip my birthday two years ago. And in like the Pigeon Forge, it just had a whole shelf of like hot sauces. ago and in like the pigeon forge it just had a whole shelf of like hot sauces and obviously it's a dead horse at this point but it's like if it's not just like a mexican or hispanic or south american like caliente it's like shittingblood.com yeah yeah you know like this will kill you fucking poop sauce or something sex because i remember we had a few sex ones when we did that episode too with like hot girl farting on the cover or whatever you guys do us like a like a swingers guys episode oh that's episode one and one that's why we talk about it a lot on the title yeah one could say if they watch the stream every single week, they will see us.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Yeah, we tour sex clubs with Tom and Bunny from Tom's Trips. They do tours of all the sex clubs in the country, and they show the playrooms, and they are fucking horrifying. Yeah, we saw an Austin one. So some of our most popular episodes where we just go and we read reviews from strip clubs and sex clubs and swingers clubs and we just read the google reviews the good and the bad yeah yeah and like some like a lot of them like 80 of them are just like ah expensive but then you'll get a like you'll get a couple that's like wow quite a bit of hispanic guys jacking off in the corner while me and my hubby are trying to watch me take loads and you're like dude i thought my life was in shambles well but yeah there is a jake where we can't really get into it but there is a big problem with single guys they're disgusting we hate single guys in the in the lifestyle they're like
Starting point is 01:26:56 little vermin you gotta shoot them out oh they're disgusting every club has two sets of rules one for couples and one for single guys there's like a whole like a literal like rules for single guys like you're not allowed to go to the same places do the same things because they ruin it everything for everyone one of the saddest pictures ever painted by anything that we did was at this it was at some sex club and tom and bunny are touring it and they're like the rules in this playroom is that if you're a single guy, you have to come back with a couple. And if the couple leaves, you have to leave with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Picturing that, we just love the idea of that. We've talked about it all the time. Like security coming and like shooing out single guys, like trying to stick around in the sex area. They're like trying to hide in the corner. Like, get know like fucking brooming them out right yeah like yeah just they either it's really it's tough to be a single guy in the in the lifestyle let me and chris just give you tom and bunny tours okay you don't want to in austin of colette and oh okay if you watch a couple of them you're like oh my fucking god these places are horrified there was one in austin called eden and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and it was like uh used to be called something forbidden but it's literally just a red shed off i-35
Starting point is 01:28:20 um oh we've seen a couple beauty sheds man yeah yeah they're really they just look like a big barn or whatever and they like a big thing about sex clubs is they somehow don't have a root like a ceiling on the on the on the rooms they look like a movie set kind of oh yeah yeah like it's all just kind of like there's a big high ceiling above but it's not like over top where the walls are the walls like in taken when liam neeson finds the camming warehouse or whatever yeah exactly it totally looks exactly fine well i want to thank you guys for doing this show it was really nice of you and it was nice of you to have me on absolutely no time to to uh promote guys before it was out so tell people where to find you guys oh we are on uh spotify
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Starting point is 01:29:49 If you don't, you can come to my house and kill me. Thanks for doing this, guys. We will see you guys, listeners, next week on fuck, what is this show? Beatles Guides. Oh yeah, with Nate from Fun.
Starting point is 01:30:06 That'll be a good one. Good night.

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