Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 65 - Nicotine Guys with Brace Belden

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

This is a very personal episode, there was no way that I was going to do Nicotine Guys unless I could get Brace to do the episode. We all talked about smoking as teens and even adults. Then we plumb the depths of r/cigarettes and r/nicotine so that we can learn what is happening in the nicotine world You know Brace, he is at https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/3t3ry-9a829/TrueAnon-Podcast  https://www.instagram.com/trueanonpod/?hl=en  https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian with me is my co-host, Mr. Anti-smoking Chris James. Well, that's a pretty, it's not a very creative insult. You said we hate them. I mean, I think, okay, yeah, like I, listen, I used to smoke. I would say I'm anti-smoking. Oh, just for health, health reason. You know what I mean? I would say I'm anti smoking. Health, health reason, you know what I mean? Health reasons.

Yeah, that's right. I think it's universal. It's universally agreed that it's bad for your health. Not settled, not. No, no, no. I'm afraid not, my friend. I'm afraid not. Some people say some say that it's bad for your health.

There are different opinions on that. It's not settled science. As you can hear, we have brace belt in here and we're talking about guys. It was so, I mean, me and Brace stood outside of, I mean, we basically, every time we've hung out, we've smoked a million cigarettes. And that's why I was like, I'm not doing this episode. There's one person I could get to guest on this episode.

And it was Brace, because me and him, I quit like two years ago, but we were very proudly smoke. I smoke. You haven't quit yet. But I shouldn't say yet. It sounds like maybe you're going to you're going to stick this out. My brother, I have been I've smoked my first. The first thing I ever smoked was a stone black and mild when I was 12 years old. I said, this is delicious. And then I smoked a cigarette on a staircase that this older kid, Gordon gave me, who was

a kind of a bad kid. And I almost fainted. And I said, if something can make me faint, what, what, what things make you faint in life? Ghosts, which are crazy that they're real naked ladies, seeing it at a time that you didn't expect it. And that's a scary movies. And so I was like, well, what's the four?

Those are all cool things. People like those cigarettes. Got to be the best. Yeah, I listen. I I started I'm going to I'm going to blow your guys' minds right now. Is that I smoked my first cigarette. This is not a lie. When I was nine years old, Jesus, earlier than me. That is bad. That is not a nasty. I was a nasty little kid. So my dad smoked and my parents were divorced.

So I would go over to my dad's house. He smoked Craven. A was the was the brand. And I made a cigarette for after cowards. Yeah, that is weird. That is because smoking is brave. It's a very dangerous thing to do. But I stole a pack from him and brought it home to my mom's house and I smoked the cigarette under my bed, like in my room. And my stepdad, like my mom's boyfriend or whatever, came in And I remember like came in and I was like, what's that smell?

You know, but they just didn't, it didn't even register in their brain that a nine year old could be smoking. So they assumed that it was coming from outside or whatever. So I never even actually got caught. That is crazy. At nine, you smoked a cig in your room. In my room. Yeah.

Yeah. It was, I, I, listen, I was friends with this kid named Dean Mavras. Well, maybe I shouldn't say his full name. Nobody's going to go look him for him. But he was like, this guy was one year older. So this guy was 10. I mean, he was an older kid and he was a pretty bad ass kid. So, you know, I, I got out of that phase pretty quickly. Like I didn't keep smoking. I didn't like get into drugs and alcohol. I wasn't like that kind. I just had a one cigarette at nine. I felt like I got recruited by smoking. Um, I was in the sixth grade and there was this really cool dude named Aaron. Yeah. It was in the class. He had like Griebach pumps.

He like, he had everything. He wore a gold necklace when he was in sixth grade, the whole thing. He was just really pimping and he walked up to me and he was like, Hey, do you smoke? And I was like, I don't smoke in my mind. I was like, no, I don't smoke. But I was like, yes, I do. And, uh, cause I knew if I can get in with this guy, high school will be simple. If he asked you anything there, you would have said yes. Yeah, yeah.

Like, yeah, like, hey, man, you suck yourself off. You'd have been like, oh, hell, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got the rib removed and everything. I go to this kid's house and we're smoking, but I'm not inhaling, but I'm smoking every day after school. I'm going to Clinton mode on. Yeah. And then somebody goes, you're not inhaling, Brian.

So then I would breathe it in and I would swallow. Because that's what I thought inhaling was. Didn't even know what inhaling was. You really mixed it up your Clinton stuff here too. In the end, what it took was I took a drag off the cigarette and this guy, Mike Ryan, just walked up and punched me in the stomach and I went, and I was like, Oh, that's how it works. So that's how I like kind of learned how to inhale. And I got like that crazy, they call it Nick sick these days. Like, Oh, really easy buzz. Yeah.

Oh, just a head rush or whatever you get like dizzy or whatever these kids are getting crazy Buzz because of what they're doing brace. When did you start? Well, I started basically at 12 So there was these two different places that you could buy cigarettes at one was called like I think people called it I feel like they called it the candy store, but it was just like a 76 station I think people called it, I feel like they called it the candy store, but it was just like a 76 station. Uh, and that guy sold you cigarettes. And then there's this one place right next to Dolores park called, uh, Shookries, which is no longer there anymore. And he not only would sell you cigarettes, he'd sell your beer and liquor at 12 years old. And so that was like, I went there practically every day, but I started smoking Camel, like regular Camels, and then I wanted to smoke Camel Ultra Wides.

I don't know. Oh yeah. And then- What are those? They're Wides cigarettes. Are they shorter? Are they shorter? No, same length, just Wides cigarettes.

So more. There's just more. There's more. Yeah. When those started getting advertised around the store, me and my brother were like, we gotta get these. Yeah, because I was like, oh my God, look how powerful they look. They like how we not that much bigger, almost like a, like a small

cigarillo or something. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Size more than maybe a regular cigarette. So they're like pretty thick. They're not like a cigar, but they sold them in packs of 20. Yeah. Just like that. And the packs were super wide because when, when I was really at the height of my smoking, I would buy Marlboro light 25s. That was just my, that was where I went.

Cause the packs had 25 say your heads. I never even seen those. You never saw 25. Yeah. We all smoked me and all my friends smoked 25 and the king's guys. Cause I remember there was regular and king size. The regulars were shorter and fatter and the king size were longer. And yeah, I don't think they call them king. Yeah. They just call them hundreds now. Okay. They call them hundreds here when I was growing. But yeah,

so I would buy 25. I was even when I picked smoking back up a few years ago, before I was growing, but yeah, so I would buy 25s. I was, even when I picked smoking back up a few years ago before I quit again, Marlboro Black Lenthal's were what I was smoking. Wow. What made you pick it back up just out of curiosity? Like how long had you been off and what- I've been off for more than a decade. Okay, and what led you to smoke again?

I was telling Bryce this before recording. It was just live shows. So what happened, what had happened was we were doing these live shows and I didn't know what the fuck to do. Uh, after the show. So I would go, I, I just was like, well, fuck it. I'll smoke some cigarettes and I'll only do it after the shows. It'll be a fun, nice little thing I do after the shows. And then once that, once I started doing that, I then said, anytime I'm doing street fight business, I'll smoke cigarettes. That's a really good parameter.

You went, you went, you went a little bit like road dog mentality though. You were kind of became a bit of a road dog where it's just like, you don't really follow the rules or whatever when you're out on the road. You gotta understand that Brian's also been married for a long time too. And sometimes in marriages, theory I, I, from what I understand is that like, sometimes you get to spice things up and like, I want to look sexy for my wife. Brian knows all about spicing things up in a marriage. I mean, so that's of course, Brian, of course, tried the swinging thing. Obviously

that didn't work out as I've read on multiple blog posts in a spectacular fashion. Oh, yeah. The, the, the Dookie incident. It didn't happen. Nothing happened and I don't do it. Well, I mean, it wasn't... Why dookie is normal. People think it's about poo, but it's actually for some reason involves multiple members of Green Day. And then, but you know, for some reason involves multiple members of Green Day and then

But you know, so you got to look cool for your wife again. So you start smoking blowing in her face Is gonna be all over you Smoking cigarettes are blowing it in her face Ashing it in the bed and then just push it off with your hand Women love this kind of shit. Yeah, it's a sexy look It's that's what hit me was when my wife started again because I had started again I was like, oh, this is not great. She saw how cool you look It became any wife look cool

Anytime I'm doing Street Fight business, then it became okay the whole time I'm doing street fight business, then it became okay. The whole time I'm on tour Monday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday, and that's it. And then I'm done. And then by the end it was packing day. I got right back up to a pack pack and a half a day like like that. And I was just like, it just made me sick one day and I tossed them in the trash. But I will

say this, if there is a such thing as a nicotine guy that doesn't smoke anymore, I'm a nicotine guy because I love nicotine. Yeah, that's right. I mean, so for me, I, I, I started smoking pretty as heavily as I could as a kid. And then I got sent away for like a year. And what I would do is I would roll up pieces of toilet paper and pretend there were cigarettes and smoke going in the bathroom. Oh yeah. Nothing inside them?

No, it was just because I was like in the middle of I was in the, I was on a ranch. And then I got back and then all my friends are smoking in high school, all the bad kids went off campus and smoked, just smoked cigarettes. And so that's, it was like a very much like a cigarette economy for who could get a pack. And then they were kind of the person who was dispersing their, you know, their favors for the day. Uh, and prison, like prison, like very much so.

People would trade all kinds of shit. And then by the time I was like 16, then I was like smoking about a pack a day. Yeah. My first job I ever got was outdoors at a flower shop. I worked there for years and I could just smoke at work while I was working. I don't get you. That will follow. Yeah. Just the, the like the access to it.

Well, if, if you're just able to smoke all day long, especially while you're doing something like, that's kind of maybe boring or whatever you're trying to pass the time, yeah, the rest of the time. You're trying to pass the time. Yeah. You're standing around being like, what about, but they've made smoking incredibly hard these days. Like we just got rid of menthols here, which is tough for me. That's why I'm glad I quit because, uh, I don't know where to get menthols anymore. It's funny because like people always talk about like, oh yeah, like the government should clamp down on smoking.

It's just like the government that had slavery when the country started or the government that dropped an atomic bomb on people or the government that did Jim Crow or the government that gives whatever weapons they want to Israel that that same government. Oh, I should trust them to tell them what to do with my body. Yeah. So one of the things I've noticed now is that everybody at all, the nicotine guys are quitting smoking, not quitting nicotine at all. They're on a patch.

They'll, they'll, they don't wear the patches, but they chew the new stuff. The Zen Zen. Oh, do they love it? I was reading this guy who, who said total new will 12 milligrams of sin figuratively kill me. He goes, I had no idea what I was doing when I ordered a 12 milligram Juicehead pack from Nicko kick thought the flavor sounded good first of all the flavors juicehead Here's a nut I've never smoked or used any tobacco product I ordered the pack as part of my research and the Niko Kicks parent company, Hape.

Can I just keep the pouch in for a short time to limit the nicotine intake? What's a short time? A minute, five minutes? Thanks for your help. So. You won't get someone else to do the research. Why are you, you don't, you never had the addiction.

Why are you making yourself addicted to this thing? Well, it's really if the thing that helps you quit works is the is the I used to chew the nicotine gum sometimes, like when I was so I chewed tobacco. I've mentioned it before. I was a dipper, like a huge I played baseball and my friends all played hockey. And we would like get together at lunch and we would chew tobacco. Skull I chewed Skoll Classic, which really tastes like manure. It's really, but that's kind of what you did with the gum,

at least the old Nicorette gum or whatever, is that you'd chew it and then you'd put it in like a dip and just kind of have it in there. So when I was trying to quit smoking, which I did after chewing, I found that the gum was really good for people who chew tobacco. But having said that,

the only way that I actually quit was just cold turkey, because I just stopped. Well, when I was quitting, when I was in high school, 10th grade, I quit smoking and started dipping, because I thought, you know what? I like this Kodiak Wintergreen. They also had cherry flavored dip,

and that's good for kids. Oh, cherry was the nastiest, the cherry skull. Oh, I hate it so much. I hated that flavor. I tried dipping once because all like the like white track, I went to like a bad kid's high school, like a public high school for like kids who couldn't read

or kids who did crimes. And all the white kids dipped. Some of the black kids dipped to act actually some of them Kind of everybody dipped. Yeah now that I think about I sort of really associate with this one specific group of white dudes And I'm like no some of the black kids dip to and definitely some of the Mexican kids did And I just remember them spitting to those fucking water bottles during class it was so nasty like half the fucking like, like, oh, like half a water bottle full of like black.

Yes, it's spits. Gusting. Well, let me tell you, big hockey thing. And there's just not any players do it a lot. And you drink it because like you have a crush on the dude and want to get closer to him. And it's just yeah. Yeah. I have to say, I sat in the back of the classroom when I was dipping

Yeah, and uh, you couldn't have like something to spit in with you. So I spit in the uh air conditioner What the fuck? See these people like i'm sorry. That's despicable. We we couldn't chew in class because we'd get in trouble, you know Yeah, but you were that addicted like you need we just waited until like the breaks because I was addicted to cigarettes Yeah, and again, I just love nicotine so fucking much that like I don't know if I I smoked in the bathroom a lot In high school. Yeah, I had a whole sit had a whole system for it. You know, you hold the cigarette like this so it's in your hand and then you stand real close to the The urinal and you shake like and so it looks like you're jacking your Peter off. Yeah, what do you do? Yeah

Which is that because they took the doors off the stalls in my high school. What? Yeah, right. So you didn't have doors on the stalls of your fucking shit So you had to go take a shit and someone just walk in and see what they could yeah Somebody could just walk in and see you what if you're drinking your fucking classmates dip juice What if you're drinking, you know piss out of your classmates, you know You had a shit in full view of your classmates through high school I mean not it's not like it was out in the middle of the hallway No, but somebody But if somebody comes in looking to use the bathroom and they come in and they they would see you they would walk up and see You it was highly discouraged

Shitting was highly discouraged where I was because they didn't want doors on the stalls because they were always trying to catch people smoking, you know, because people were always smoking in a bathroom there. It always smelled like cigarettes. Well, it couldn't, what? I don't get it either, but it doesn't even seem legal. We, we, we never, we never had an issue with people smoking or anything like that. We did have an issue where there was a period of time where

someone was shitting on the floor or like a toilet and stuff like that. And there was this big thing. It became this huge investigation. They thought, is it someone struggling in the washroom? Who's like, or is it somebody like doing whatever? Guess what turned out it was my brother's best friend who was doing this thing called sky dumping where he would sit on top of the stall. So he would get on top of the stall and put

like one leg on each side, one arm on each side, and then he would try to shit in toilet from the top and he would often miss we had brick walls between them the stalls I'll say that what the fuck yeah what kind of places is it yeah what kind of Groveport Madison high school and Groveport Ohio Jesus Christ see my high school they let you smoke there was I went to two like well I went to more than two high schools but the high school, they let you smoke. There was, well, I went to two, like, well, I went to more than two high schools, but the high school I spent most of my time at was a continuation school, which was famous in the district because you could, they had ashtrays and you could smoke. But they removed that while I was there.

That sucks, they can't do that. You could still smoke. But you would, did you have a grandfather closet? Were you able to, because you were there before? Well, no, now it just became, you could smoke, but you just had to smoke off campus, which was like, we weren't allowed to do that. But like I also only went to school for three hours a day.

And so yeah, they would, they would say if you're smoking during school hours, they can get you. Because one time I did dry, oh, I got in so much trouble for this. I was like, okay, so got in so much trouble for this. I was like, okay, so I walked right over onto the other side of the fence for the property of the high school. And I just smoke and

openly like, this is great. I'm smoking. Principal comes down. He's like, Hey, what the you know, what are you doing? Start yelling. I'm like, fuck you. I'm not on school property. And didn't realize that I was gonna have to go on school property to go to school. So the minute I walked over the line, I was in trouble and they took me to the office. It was not perfect. I don't. Yeah. Sorry. I just just before we do get to the actual, you know, episode or whatever, this just reminded me it's not really related, but I had a principal in elementary school

named Mr. Welton, and he had the biggest ears in the world. They stuck out fully. And in the middle of us going there, he got surgery to take his gigantic ears and press them up against his head, and he looked even weirder. And it was like, I think about it still to this day, you know?

Yeah. We had a guy that was, we have Mr. Holcomb and he was always like pink, like Tom from Tom and bunny. He was always like, and my brother fucking got suspended for calling him nipple face. We had, we had at my regular high school, like the regular high school I went to for like three months, we had just this vice principal who biked around all the time. And then at the continuation school I had, we had three months we had just this vice principal who biked around all the time would yell and then at the continuation school I had we had a guy who was just in charge of telling you not to talk to

the regular high school kids because our high school is near it and like you couldn't give them cigarettes like they was basically like you guys like can't contaminate but like we weren't allowed to like I think our lunch was a different time what did you do what what What caused you to go to that school? I was on probation and for a fire that I did not. And I'm saying this in sincerity. I didn't do it. Okay.

And for vandalism, which I some of which I did do, but not the stuff. Gotcha. Yeah. And I was present for the fire. Absolutely. Yeah. That's what happened when I got busted by the police. And I was present for the fire. Absolutely. Oh, yeah.

That's what happened when I got busted by the police. Like, well, I lied to the police, lied to the court. Whitney, I had to go to this thing called teen court. Right. And it's teenagers doing in the court. It's like the judge is a teenager. The judge is an adult, but everybody else is a debate Lift is a teenager and it's all teenagers that have been in trouble. That sounds like the reality Your honor my client is the Rizzo

Way it worked was the first time you get busted as a minor you go to teen court What the fuck man hour? How is this like? How is this an actual thing? How am I just learning about this? Yeah? Crazy wait, so who is your lawyer? Another student that had been another bad kid that got in trouble Yeah, even like a kid, like an organized kid. Your honor, your honor, your honor. If you get me out of teen court, I'll tell my client to confess.

So what happens is the first time you go, you're the defendant. Right? So you go in there, a bad kid walks into the room and there's like, I'll be your lawyer. What's this? What's that? What, you know what? So I told a total fucking complete lie.

And, uh, then we went out and they played the case and I got no punishment. They were like, no punishment for you because it seemed like you were the victim here. But it's like the state is the state, like, is this like sponsored by the state? Is this like an official, like this isn't a real court house? Yeah, it's in a real courthouse. It's in a real juvenile courthouse. And it has a real judge, like a real. There is a real judge there,

but everybody else is a teenager that's been in trouble for something. So then the following week after I lied and got out of trouble, I had to come back and be a lawyer. And then the week after that, I had to be a bailiff. And then the week after that, I had to be a prosecutor.. And then the week after that, I had to be a prosecutor. Who did you defend and how many years did they get? You have to, I did a bad job defending because I kind of told them to lie.

And, uh, it was just kind of like, uh, cause it was bullshit. This is how I defended somebody who ran into a gas station at, with three of their friends and each grabbed a 24 pack of beer and ran out of the gas station. And classic smash and grab. And the way that I got out of trouble was I got busted with two other guys smoking weed in a park at like two o'clock in the morning and we had like a half ounce on us and we got busted. I, I got a curfew violation. I had to go to team court. So when I got to team court, I was like, so these,

and the two guys that I was with were like one or two years older than me. I was like, these are older, these are older kids. Like they were picking me up from work and they said, you're going to have to go to the park and smoke marijuana with us. And, uh, that was my case that I got molested into smoking marijuana. It was a really, but I ended up getting out of trouble. But then, yeah, I, I, I did, I did four weeks. That's what teen court was. It was like a way to teach bad kids what it's like to go to court. And you know, sometimes they would have to tour a juvenile detention

facility if they got straight. Yeah, that was one of the things. Ryan into a swim. Well, that's I'm a straight. No, it's just going to be silly. I do want to say this 12 milligram question for this guy that's doing a project goes. Does the guy respite replies and goes, does the phrase drop your dick in the dirt

mean anything to you? Yeah. No, I've never heard it. Never heard it. Yeah. That's going to be rough. Why are you using pouches? If you haven't used nicotine before, like to each their own, but in general, picking up

nicotine for shits and giggles isn't the best idea. This is the main thing that I ended up finding is these pouches are fucking hardcore, like really, really, really fuck you up and make you throw up and pass out. And it's- What was it like this in, is what we're talking about is in stuff?

And is it meant to do that? Is that like part of it that it's meant to turn you off of it or is that just, okay. It's meant to get more nicotine in you. Well, so it's, it's a, like, I looked this up while, while you were reading the question, cause I was like, Oh, how many milligrams are you supposed to, I think if you smoke a pack a day, the equivalent in Zinn pouch is a nine milligram pouch. Yeah. And so if you're doing 12, that's like a pack and a half of cigarettes a day. And this guy's going from nothing to that. I mean, come on. Well, going from going from nothing so that you can learn

what it's like to quit is I've never I've never even considered somebody doing something like that. Lobster at least smoke them. Then if you're going to quit, you know, get that nice feeling of smoking a cigarette. That's wonderful. Lopsided bat. Nine oh four says I wouldn't even dare to do six milligrams is my first time. Six milligrams, even with a tolerance buzzes my dick off.

Buzz is my dick. Because these guys have a cool vernacular. The way they talk is kind of these are cool guys. My fucking dick off Thing is I don't like it. I I you've tried it. You've tried it right it multiple times I you know, I for a while in San Francisco. There was this thing I mean sin is the same thing as like snooze or whatever Yeah, it's just got a better name and for a while Campbell introduced snooze like they had purchased some like snooze

Something but they're bringing it to America and I would hang around this bar called the hemlock in San Francisco For a while camel introduced snooze like they had purchased some like snooze or something But they're bringing it to america and i would hang around this bar called the hemlock in san francisco. I would just you know Just there was a smoking section there. There's like a room that you could smoke in And uh, they would always have these girls that would come by that would just be giving out free Fucking snooze and so I ended up having like 30 packs of snooze because they came to the bar basically every night and they didn't remember me even though I would, I would leer at them and take loud pictures with them and try to pose with them, uh, try to smoke on a piece of their hair like it was a cigarette.

But and I would do it and it would, I was a heavy smoker and it would make me sick. Like it would hurt. It would tingle my lip too much and then it would make me sick. Okay. So just to be clear, cause I think there's a little bit, maybe American Canadian, or maybe just in what we called stuff. So snooze, what is snooze that you're a pouch? It's the pouch with nicotine salts in it.

From what I can tell this guy snooze to us is a Swedish thing. It's a thing that you, uh you it's a tobacco that you snort no that's snuff that's yeah okay we would call it snus as well that's why that's the confusing thing i have my friend just told me the snuff story yeah i've i've done snuff i've i've we used to snort it too we used to do that i've never seen it for sale. Yeah, no, we had it for sale in Canada for sure. When I was younger, definitely. And then we'd have friends who would like bring it back or order it in from places, but we definitely took it.

It was, it was pretty fucking wild snorting this stuff. Like I had never done cocaine or anything like that. I'm just snorting the, I mean, it burned, it burned like you wouldn't imagine. Here's a, I mean, it burned, it burned like you wouldn't imagine. Here's a, I started sm water. Boy says I started dipping and smoking about 10 years ago. I bought the 12, 12 milligram juice heads thinking I'd be fine. When I tell you I was Nick sick within five minutes, I'm not even joking.

I palm that shit on my buddy and he got sick as shit too. So, uh, people are just getting sick from this. And again, this is not what it's meant to do. Is it meant to have you quit? I don't know. I think it's just, it's kind of like dip, but no spit. And so like, it's just something that you kind of have in your, I mean, there's people say it gives you energy or what? I don't trust anyone who smokes for any reason,

but to not feel crazy because they don't have a cigarette but like this is this is people like who I think for some people it's almost like a like a Dark new no tropic or something. It's like it's like on their dark stack You know, it's like a monster and a zin or whatever Apparently it's just like it's just what it's doing is like, it's just putting nicotine salts into your bloodstream through your lip, but it always burns my lip. How bad I think it gave me a canker sore once. Yeah. And they say this guy in frequent drama says, LOL, I double dip sometimes little upper and lower decky. Oh, upper Decker. We used to go with the upper lippers every now and then. But that was of course when you're dipping and your lower lip got too sore from tobacco and you literally couldn't do it anymore,

but we were so addicted that we'd put it up top. Here's no foil, which brace you're going to love this guy. I think you're going to like this guy. Please use your head. Have you ever heard of a fatal overdose from a nicotine pouch or cigarette? No, you haven't because it's not possible unless you drink a bottle of nicotine extract. Well, so I remember when I was young on looking on arrow,

with people talking about how they were shooting nicotine, like they were injecting nicotine and like the feelings that it gave them and they were always like it's funny because I Ended up shoot not shooting. Excuse me snorting. What's that? Fuck it? Well butrin because of Because of what I read on arrow would because I read it gave you a cocaine like hi It does not give you a cocaine We did an episode on Arrowhead guys. So they're fucking liars. They're people who are just like, they feel something and they feel different than usual.

And then they try to like put that into a category that other people might find palatable often. And one of those categories is cocaine. And that is not what it, and so that's also what the, one of the nicotine guys, I remember vividly being like, yeah, it was like, yeah, it's really speedy and like, you know, like you feel like an amphetamine. I'm like, no, you don't.

If you inject nicotine, you're not feeling a consistent amphetamine like high. You might feel like a weird brush or something, but like you're already, your body is probably so fucked beyond that point that you cannot, I cannot trust you to have a normal sensation or reaction to things. I snorting nutmeg though. I did there was I don't understand how that works

I don't think I've ever actually seen nutmeg in its pure form, but I remember people would get drunk off of that Yeah, they would get fun. We read some stories of people getting fucked. It seems very unpleasant Yeah, seems like just a bad time. I have seen firsthand somebody drink two bottles of fucking mouthwash and have alcohol poisoning. Oh, fuck, man. My brother did that with Robitussin, but didn't. Well, that's different. That's the exam.

That's different. Or the thing that's that's a drug that's that fucks you up and also makes you shit a lot as well. It's bad. Here's an odd guy that says, can't build a tolerance to nicotine. I'm in the UK and I'm trying to find low strength pouches, but even four milligrams feels like too much and it makes me sick. Right now I'm using six milligram Velo because it's the lowest strength strength I'm finding and I'm sick after 30 minutes. The most I can do is two four

milligram pouches a day or one six milligram a day before I get really sick. I just can't build any tolerance. I've been using pouches for about two weeks now. Okay well you haven't given enough time but also like why why are these people so aggressively trying to? They seem to be trying to get addicted to Nicky. And that's nobody goes into it thinking everybody that I know that have got into nicotine was like, well, I just simply won't get addicted. Yes. I mean, here's the thing.

Nobody wants to be addicted. They didn't smoke smoking cigarettes sucks. It sucks. Do you try to fucking see Lord of the Rings? Oh, stop real quick. I gotta go. I gotta go smoke my fucking new pee. I smoke a cigarette. Yeah, I'm going after we finish recording this not to, um, you know, but I'm going to tune to and that's a two hour 45 minute movie. I already saw it. And it's it's and let me tell you this, smoking the whole time in there.

I was, I'm lighting that shit up and I told him because it's like, I'm like, it's one of those IMAX things where they have. Yeah, I'm going to IMAX where they have IMAX. Oh, you went to the four D, the four D, four D X. That he went to it and like for the Dune one and it sprayed spice in his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that those existed. We have one for the X, the four D X experience here. And I went and saw this Super Mario Brothers movie

and it was the worst experience of my life. Just being thrown around as like water sprays at my face for no reason. It was just fucking awful. Ruin the movie. Eat popcorn and shit while that happens. Yeah, you can kind of, but then he's like, you start eating and it shakes around and your fucking popcorn spills everywhere. It's really unpleasant. Wow. So let's, uh, let's move off of people who really want to,

really want to get addicted to nicotine. And this guy has a question. Has anyone tried making tea with the nicotine pouches? Maybe stir it up and a lot of water. Why are you trying to buy these? Yeah. Like, like mushroom tea, I guess, you know, you mushroom tea. That's a, what effect would you get from this? Well, why, for what purpose? There are a few answers. Uh, one guy says the bag will break and you will either poison yourself or shit yourself. Aiden the alien 420 said you're gonna poison yourself and then List Potential says, extremely stupid idea. Almost zero bio availability besides the minimal time

it takes for it to travel from your mouth to your throat unless you're planning on inhaling the tea. Fuck no. And then here's the guy that gives the final say on it. He goes, good way to vomit, shit yourself and possibly have a heart attack. That said, with a dip user's amount of tolerance, you could put two milligrams, three milligram pouch

in a tea or coffee and sip it slowly. Knowing you're in it for the nicotine through the mouth. Hold each sip for five to 30 minutes. And only have as bad a stomach as you've had swallowing all the spit from using the pouch. Don't chug it all at once. That'd be all heart attack and no fun. Okay. So you'll, you might have, you might be sick vomit, shit yourself and have a heart attack, but I still think it's like something you could do is what he's saying. But like if you were like really careful with it and you hold the, did he say hold the tea sip in your mouth for?

Five to thirty minutes. I'm hoping he means don't stick don't do five to thirty minute sips You know, I would sip it. Yeah, I can't hold I can't hold the liquid in my mouth that long That's I don't know if I've tried I'm trying to think of how long I've held like liquid in my mouth for I can't imagine longer than a minute, though. So I think smokers really hate these days is is called plain packaging laws. Oh, is that in Canada? The stuff where it has the babies and stuff and it has all the warnings on it. Well, they don't mind those warnings.

They actually goof about the warnings. Oh, yeah. The warnings have become funny now. Yeah Warning you might get too much fucking pussy from this They're so desensitized to it though, you know what I mean that it's like they laugh about it It's like yeah, but it's like like it's it's reality in their face on the cover showing their Warning you might get throat cancer. Yeah. It's a cigarette.

Dumb ass. What do you think I'm going to get this one? They showed a pack. This guy goes, so plain packaging now involves a naked man better or worse than original packaging. So it is a naked man all curled up in a bed and it says increases the risk of impotence. Oh, whatever. Here's the thing. Well, it's OK.

I might be impotent, but without cigarettes, I would not have a woman in my bed. So. And what would I do after I made love to her and I was finished and sitting beside each other with white sheets? Yes, I'm naked, curled up. I understand my dick isn't working, but here's the thing. I did a body mod. I have lizard tongue and I just ate her pussy in a unique way. And also, have you heard about these things called dick implants where you can basically just pump your

dick up and make it work no matter what. So, yeah. And also, I'm sorry, there's a little company called Blue Chew and I chew about 15 15 16. I make tea with that stuff In the morning, I'm hard all day I did don't work because of the fucking snooze tea But then I drink that fuck it. I drink my pre workout with blue chew in it Actually, I think that some workout people do take Ed pills because it like opens the bloodstream. Yeah.

I would believe that. Uh, uh, what is it called? Smelling salts. Yeah. Which I've gotten really into by the way. I love smelling salts. Where do you get smelling salt? On the internet.

I don't have any, but I, my friend does at his house. And, uh, anytime I've been to bar stool sports, they've had smelling salts. Sick. It's like something that Portnoy would keep on. He doesn't. He's not. I don't see him there. I did see a dwarf there, but which is good luck, but they, um, they really wake you

the fuck up, dude. It's crazy. I say, but I smelled too many on New Year's Eve and I threw up. I throw. Yeah, I believe that because I smelled one one time and it fucking woke me up out of I told the story on the stream like I I was getting a stent pulled out of my kidneys because I had kidney stones and they had to stick a really long hook in the head of my penis

Oh pull it out that way I was like, I think I'm okay. I think because they were like it doesn't hurt that bad It really didn't hurt that bad No in the world to get me through that and so I in the end they did it and I was like I think I'm okay and then I stood up out of the chair and Immediately fainted and was on the floor like just it was so traumatic and then they came up yelling At me you can't lay here. You can't lay here. So then they started cracking smelling salts in my

Nose to get me up and it didn't get me up. I was oh, yeah, it works. Did you did you pee blood the first time afterwards? I think maybe I did. Yeah Did you pee blood the first time afterwards? I think maybe I did. Yeah This guy says ironic since smoking increases testosterone Which I don't know if that's well, let's just go with it. Yeah, I think that that W's it needs some W's these days it needs some positive ass Listen people have been doing it since the beginning of, dude. And it's not like they just started doing it because they hated themselves. They started doing it for good medicinal reasons. It's fucking ancient medicine and like Western.

It's just interesting that like what West Western white, like colonial stuff dictates what I can put in my body as obviously like, I don't think I'm native to Israel. I know that burn. You told me off camera that like you think I am. I didn like but like and like but I'm like, you know, you couldn't say like on the show or stuff. I don't think I am like I think that I'm just American you said that I'm not because of whatever Judaism, but like ever and then you showed me your kidney stones. And in fact, you smoked one you smoked one off a tin foil, which I thought was crazy. Um, that's how you can tell you're lying. I one don't have my kidneys. So keep them.

They did, but I didn't, I don't know why, but like I had it for a few months. Yeah. My kidney stone experience was like the first time I think I realized I'm a psycho was like that first time I think I realized I'm a psycho was like that. Why? Because after I had them, they were like, hey, man, it's really important that you pee through this funnel in order to see if the stone passes. And it's like a funnel with a little screen in it. No. And I'm like, I just was like, I am pan through a fucking funnel.

Fuck you. You know, and he was like was like well, then you know, we're not gonna know if it passes and of course it didn't pass So then I go back and he's like now are you gonna use the funnel and I was like no I'm not gonna use the fucking funnel again. It doesn't pass. I go back a third time and they're like We got to operate on you now Because this kidney stone is so big and it's blocking something. And then it was just I was like, yeah, it's the same thing with when I was a roofer. I wouldn't wear a hard hat. I'm just not a guy.

I'm a pain in the ass. I'm not like a good patient. You're a bruiser. Yeah. You're a classic heavy. You're a classic heavy. You're a heavy. You're somebody who is pretty much not to be fucked with. No, no, no.

I'm shocked you're wearing sleeves right now. I mean, I get it because you're in full IDF dress uniform, but the sleeves are not dressed uniform, but it's just the you know, it's like the regular uniform, but it's, it's the sleeves is what's on me off here. Here's a question. I think you guys might be able to help. What is the most healthiest vape? I know. The brain is just coughing from taking a vape right there. They're pretty much woke up with a cough this morning. I was like, this is God saying this is going to be a great

podcast. What's in that vape that you're vaping on? I have. So I have this is menthol. This is the only I smoke. You'll have that. I smoke jewel. They don't still have it. Oh, I have to.

Well, in New York, at least they don't. I have to go and ask the guy, can I get the five percent menthols? And then he takes out from under the counter But I smoked jewel and I didn't realize jewel to me is still new It's a new technology because it made it less jewel was a thing that broke through the vape barrier where it made it Okay for normal people to vape because you didn't need a rig. Yeah, and and it didn't look like that embarrassing. And now everyone's smoking these fucking air bars, which by the way, are too crazy. They don't have normal flavors like menthol.

It's like Alaskan desert ice or whatever, like Rick and Morty flavor. I walk by this place all the time that has those, those bars. And they're like, they have Nick Rick and Morty flavor. They got the South park flavor. They got like, how do you pick? Exactly. And so, so I, but I smoked these and so I have had multiple people come out to me like, Oh damn, you're still smoking that.

Like still smoking this. It is really fucking new. Like in terms of like, I don't know. I think it came out when the strokes were really big, like 2010. Let's say 2010 and that's the strokes. Yeah, I think the strokes were big early too, because I went to the strokes concert when I was maybe 19 or so. Yeah, I think it was around early 2000s 2010.

Yeah. Things were saying 2010. Yeah. That strokes were long gone. Nobody was interested in Julian Casablanca's and the boys, although they did make a bit of a resurgence in the late two 2010s. Yeah, they were good. Uh, our cigarettes, gonzo Antifa, he says, uh, do we really smell that man?

Yeah. Seen a lot of stuff from anti-smokers and say, we smell absolutely awful. No matter what I have brutally honest friends and family that would tell me if I smelled, I always smoke outside and I use body spray. Usually they can tell when I come in, but not all the time. Am I just delusional or does it really not matter that much? I get paranoid that I smell bad when I'm in school, especially giving presentations.

I'm a fourth year architect major, so we have to be quote presentable. So he uses body spray which- Axe body spray. So I can he's got a probably a really good smell Body spray Aftershave The the effluvients of tar dandruff shampoo. This guy's so bad.

I will say people who people who smoke so much like all the time who just like they stink and they can't help it. They get that like on their hands and stuff. But otherwise, like the smell of someone right after they smoked a cigarette is awful but otherwise if you're like a smoker who smokes every now and then I don't think it's that bad if you do take care of yourself it's very stay shit like oh it's like making out with an ashtray it's like okay so I fucked for ashtray it's all right yeah exactly well I've seen video of one person on this podcast having sex with multiple ashtrays at the same time

at a resort. Put him in the other like- Oh, and it wasn't me. Two chicken breasts. And it wasn't me. I mean, his penis looked like Vesuvius, like covered in ash. I didn't, I never fucked an ashtray.

This comes out later. And now I'm gonna be looking at my phone one day and 87 people are gonna say, Brian fucked an ashtray this comes out later and now I'm gonna be looking at my phone one day and 87 people are gonna say Brian fucked it. I'm sorry you put your penis in a thrusting motion through the little cigarette slits in an ashtray Big enough No, it was actually it was a lot of room to maneuver. So it was sort of like You said do you said do you have do you have any that are that have smaller holes in them? Yeah. So that I can actually feel some.

They were if you look if you zoom in on the on the video which is easy to do and I have I yeah I have oh I have it actually they're Virginia Slim branded. I knew you were going to say Virginia Slim. For that and of course you call them vagina slime as you say. Oh my god! That is the most groveport thing any but vagina slime. That's what we used to call them. Virginia Slime. I'll tell you this.

I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. People think of Asia as the number one cigarette smoking place in the world and they do. They smoke a lot of cigarettes there but you walk around the streets of the orient and People are not smoking your regular cigarettes a lot of the time. They're smoking their team a little fucking thin ciggies Yeah, it's weird. I saw a guy posting recently Out of side of the research of this that Virginia slims are like it was a guy saying like guys need to Guys need to not be ashamed of smoking Virginia

It's like okay guy saying like, guys need to, guys need to not be ashamed of smoking Virginia. It's like, okay. Virginia. I mean, listen, if you want to smoke a tiny little cigarette, that's your lifestyle, but whatever you do is your, your, your, you know, it's your choice. I am a constitutional conservative. I'm fine with that. But I just will say you are smoking the Virginia slim. That is kind of a girl's name for a cigarette. And it does like have that. Maybe it's just from seeing it so much, but there is like a feminine

quality to it with the tiny little cigarette holding it like that. What you can't do. Ash. Yeah. And it's just like something about that tiny, the way that you're holding onto. It looks dainty. It looks a little dainty. And it is a day. I want to start selling what they call Alabama welterweights. You know, this guy says, this guy says, I love the smell of a smoker.

If people don't like it, they can move away from you, their choice. And then we can move. They can uproot their family. Yeah, they can sell their home and go through the sale of a home and purchase a new one. If they don't like your smoking cigarettes constantly. I want to give you guys this guy that I found out. You're going to love this guy. I love the smell of a cigarette smoker, especially in a woman's hair, which is funny because

women are often self-conscious about that and try to keep their distance while I'm looking like Joe Biden conjuring up any pretense like I'm fine to lean in and take a good whiff of that smoky hair perfume. Ah, this guy is a full-fledged creep. This guy is fully like, hey, anybody else take this cigarette thing a little further? Anyone getting horny for this stuff?

Well, of course, I mean, we have to, I mean, Brian texted me that he wanted me to bring this up because he felt it would be made fun of if he did, but the smoking porn people very much like, like, I've never watched it, I guess, but I know someone who did it and what you do, obviously there's varying, like there's anything from full penetration to what would be more soft core. But some of these girls are just sitting there, smoking cigarettes, and there's guys who, for some reason, that is horny for them.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like a class. It's a, they always say it's like a mom thing. You know what I mean? Like where, like people are in defeat are in defeat because they looked at their mom's feet all the time or whatever. No, the foot thing is because that is really it's, uh, my friends who's a

neuroscientist explained this to me. The, the, the foot thing is because whatever center that talks about feet in your head is right next to the sexual pleasure thing. And so if that, like, if the wires kind of get crossed, you're into feet, that's why it's so common. But that means you literally brain damage if you're trying to use a foot under Biden style. Because I've seen the president's son

get jacked off with feet on the video. Oh, how'd that, I didn't know they had video of this guy. I know there's, I've seen- They've got a lot of video of him. I've seen a lot of video. I've seen a lot of video. He was not very good at keeping uh you know swept under the rug. What I don't understand is this I'm somebody who has enjoyed a hit from a damn crack pipe once or twice in my life. Feels good, tastes good, smoke doesn't linger on, although you wish it did. I've never been like, oh, I should set up the old fucking iPad and film this. So like the idea of filming yourself like smoking crack and to watch later is crazy.

To me, maybe he was just smoking crack all the time and also doing a lot of filming himself and they just happen to sort of overlap sometimes. You what I mean? Like is that a possibility? I could I could believe him I could believe that he was filming all these things and then Trying to like making like a fake email address and trying to like write to China and be like I have I'm willing to sell you some blackmail stuff a hundred Biden for 20 million dollars A Camry and a plane ticket to fucking San Diego. This person, uh, I guess Jenna Ortega smoke. She's a 20 year old actress and, uh, it came up in our slash cigarettes.

Twitter has been going absolutely mental over the actress Jenna Ortega 20 being a cigarette enjoyer. Rarely do I venture to that trash part of the internet, but the anti smokers have come out in their droves as you'd expect. This sub stands for as do I adults being allowed to do as they please. Poor Jenna being infantilized by the same fans who wish she'd start an only fan. So first of all, what? Okay, I don't know that is that is that a big genoa or take a fan thing? I think her fans are mostly teenage girls. Yeah, I, uh, and yeah, I don't know.

It is a weird thing when celebrities in modern day, when you like find out that a celebrity smokes or whatever, I think a lot of them do. I a lot of I think I think like probably more like like per capita, more celebs probably smoke than regular people. And I'm around somebody that's like even semi kind of famous. They're they're smoking or any time you run into them. There's I ran into John Ham backstage at the UCB theater. And this guy was smoking inside drinking a bottle of Budweiser I was about to say he's also probably drunk off his ass

He was drinking out of a bottle of Bud and smoking cigarettes inside the venue This is when it was not legal to do so, you know, but it was just like This guy looked as cool as John Ham drinks probably three barrels of liquor Drinks probably three barrels of liquor Ever I know who lives in LA is like sees John he's like a street drunk like he walks around Like silver like just stumbling at he's often by the UCB theater the the one on Franklin because there's that there's a restaurant right beside It that he goes to a lot of famous restaurant I'm gonna have gone there restaurant. I'm going to have gone there next week. This guy says honestly, think anti smoking people are much more

annoying than vegans, which is this right? Like, as known as famously, I don't know if that's true, though, you know, because non smokers aren't feeling the need to always tell you about the fact that's the famous thing about vegans, right? How they're always saying it to you. Yeah. I think that's a little hard. Most people don't smoke anymore. And so no one's like, it's kind of a given, but like, well, here's the thing. And I, I remember when they passed a law in San Francisco that you couldn't smoke within 20 feet of like an entrance way. Which means you can't smoke on the street.

And I remember thinking, I was like, damn, okay, well, like, they're passing more and more laws to restrict my people. And like, you know, they're there, you can't smoke here, you can't smoke there, I can't smoke in the apartment anymore. I can't smoke at work anymore. Like I can't smoke in the hospital, even though that's where I should smoke. Because if I get cancer, it's better. I can't smoke. I can't smoke at bars. I can't smoke anywhere. And it's, it reminded me so much of the Nuremberg laws that I thought like bad eventually. And then all of these things all, and then they started printing our cigarette packs.

You will die. We will kill you. Yeah. Your dick doesn't work. You have no money. This part is such bullshit. And so I think this is actually what Brian suggested me before we started I didn't suggest anything just like just like Israel was created after World War two

It's gonna mute my microphone here if you don't like Smokers cigarette smokers need their own Israel cigarette smokers need their own Israel here Nevada need their own Israel. Brian, you agree with that? Nevada. Yeah, that is illegal everywhere else in the world, but you could smoke anywhere, hospitals, preschools, anywhere you want. And Nevada is a free smoke zone. You wouldn't get that much pushback, I feel like from people in Nevada. Like I haven't been there for a long time, but when I was there, they were very, very pro smoke.

That place was, that place was so heaven to me when I went there because I could just walk around smoking cigarettes all day, smoking it. You walk in the door, you're smoking a cigarette. You walk out the door, it's like, there's just smoking cigarettes everywhere that you can go. It makes- Bahamas, I lived in the Bahamas for a period of time and it was, you know, it was 10 years

ago or so and the, in Nassau, it was exactly like that. You could smoke everywhere, anywhere. People are smoking inside the grocery store and like, yeah, just, I remember walking around the casino, drunk gambling and smoking cigarettes. And it really was one of my good memories. I smoked a lot, a lot everywhere. Yeah. This guy goes, honestly, I think.

Okay. So this person replies, did you know you're killing yourself? And then the person comes back and says, no, I'm stuck in the 30s when people thought they were actually healthy. And then a guy responds and says, they actually are healthy. If you consume something 20 to 120 times a day, every single day for half a century or more before it kills you. That's healthy in my book.

Technically not. No, it's not because a lot of people died from it. Yeah. And also like, what do you mean if you consume something, if you have 20 sips of water a day, you're good. Well, more than that. But if you consume something 20 times a day and you don't die for 50 years, that means it's good for you.

Yeah, it's healthy. I think he overplayed his hand by saying healthy. He could have said it's neutral. It's a neutral thing. It's like, I don't think you can even all jokes. I don't think you can even say that. I think there is a lot of it is plainly bad for you. There is no way even just taking aside what we know, right? Like even like if we're going back to like 1948 and like you're a doctor or whatever, there's what world could you live in where inhaling smoke, keeping

it in your lungs and then expelling it multiple times a day is not bad for you in even a small way. Yeah, it doesn't make sense at all. Like it doesn't even matter what you're inhaling. If you're inhaling any kind of smoke, really smoke is medicine though. Actually that's something that you're not considering though. Smoke can be medicine, but only if it's ganja. Well, and then this guy goes,

this guy goes American culture. If you smoke, you're a pariah, but if you smoke weed constantly to the point of brain cell loss, that's okay. No, I think that it's, they're both bad. The smoking element of it. I think that what some people say is that marijuana has different,

you know, positive aspects to smoking, but they are both unhealthy. I think that's agreed upon. Yeah. Well, here's, here's the thing about it's just interesting that just as a, as a, as a white person, not to quote Brian or anything, but as a white person, as a white person, it's just interesting that like they killed off a lot of our cigarette smoking guys like Humphrey Bogart and Johnny Johnny Cash And yet a lot of rappers who smoke weed are allowed to be alive still and in fact are much younger than like Bogart and they haven't like they haven't killed a lot of them off yet And it just it just I find it interesting that weed is basically accepted

now. But if you smoke cigarettes, you're basically on par with, I don't know, the worst thing that you could possibly be. Well, listen to this cigarette guy. He goes, I'm Jen X. And while I welcome weed becoming normalized, how can a plant be illegal? I mean, that's, I don't like how it's seen as totally harmless. I also hate it when people wreak of it. This is a smoker saying this is a smoker. Nobody's winking of so many reeks of weed if they have weed on them. Like if you smoke weed, you know, maybe you smell like weed, but you're not like. These days, people are not like reeking of weed everywhere. This guy says it makes me physically ill.

I get a buzz off it that I didn't ask for. Oh, hello. Contact high alert. I've also noticed people making it a part of their personality too. That said, it's far less harmful than alcohol, which leads me to another rant. Alcohol is allowed to be advertised on TV, but tobacco isn't. It's akin to advertising heroin. Nope.

I love this., no, no. It is not into that. Yeah, it's a definitely cigarettes are closer to that than alcohol is. It's tough because a lot of people that don't smoke know that you don't get a buzz after a while from nicotine, that it's a maintenance thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? And like they, but they're always like, why would you smoke this even if it doesn't get you high? And I'm like, well, because it feels, it still feels good. Technically feels good, but it also,

it staves off feeling bad. Like for street fight or for excuse me, guys, listeners that that don't that don't uh don't understand what smoking is think of how like Brian's orgy thing is like he doesn't go because he has fun at them anymore he goes for maintenance. Yes he goes because he has to or he doesn't feel whole. I've never been to one. Well you never okay you know I've been to one they're kind of just with you all the time. Yeah exactly he doesn't even think of them as orgy's in know, I've been to one. They're kind of just with you all the time. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't even think of them as orgies.

And every party he goes to is an orgy. Exactly. So he's like, orgy to him, like an orgy. Like under 50 people isn't even an orgy. Grace has probably no idea that I've been accused of going to orgies every weekend for like three years. Oh, yeah. You're not you're not aware of it. I went to one with you. You would never either. He legitimately admitted to the fact that when he was younger,

he would regularly go to our regular party that would every single time turn into an orgy. Is that facts? Yeah. I had this friend that was like a real total sex guy and there were a few other people in the bar friends or these are my friends. These are just people that I hang out with that I've had. Yeah, I know. It's interesting. Like when your group of friends is like in the lifestyle, is there any you are then in

the lifestyle? I left every time 100% left the lifestyle. No, no, no, no, left the party before the start. People would start to go upstairs or into a different room like there was Coke at the party and I'd be like, that's on my queue. Let's go. Me and my wife would leave the party. We don't need to rehash this again. But as people have mentioned, then he that's fine if he did that one time, but then he kept going back to the party. Well, I will say this, I will say this. I went to a party that turned into an orgy like last year and I also left before the orgy. For me, I'm sober and there

is, if you're having an orgy sober, so we talked's all crazy going on. Oh, we talked about that. Yeah, it is. You need to have drugs or alcohol and bone. The post-nut clarity at an orgy. First of all, having sex with one of my male friends in the room, to me, is genuinely, I would rather do like a week in the, no, a week. I would do like three months in Quinn. And before I got to see like the orgasmic fucking like yeah like like the

the quivering of the lips and like the the the motion of a spittle as my friend busts a nut that half gets on me and then I'm like yeah tastes disgusting I don't want that and so we Brian it's just like every day, every day, every day, every day. We've read stuff from our swinger about post not clarity where like those guys don't get it like they don't have it. They're red. Remember, they get past it. They move past it. We had it at some point.

But yeah, remember, I get past this and they're like, you just sit down and have a conversation. Maybe eat a sandwich or something like that and then go back out of snacks. Yeah, sometimes there's food everywhere You got to keep you hydrated and or you got to get your energy up My question is this you're in the middle of the orge and you just of course you spent about three minutes in there and you have fully expelled exposed your Seed you're done. Can you light up a fucking camel wide? Probably? Oh, yeah have fully expelled, expulsed your seed. You're done. Can you light up a fucking camel wide?

Probably. Oh yeah, yeah. That would be one of the few places nowadays where it would be totally fine to smoke a cigarette in a sex club, yeah. Before we finish up here, I wanna say that menthols are banned everywhere. And you know what?

I'm not even joking. I legit am like, that's racist. It is. I would say that menthols are the ones more known for for like black smokers like The only people I've ever known to smoke menthols Regularly are my dad me and every black person. I've like ever known me too Like that's it's one in rehab and also people in rehab all smoke menthols. But what did they what did what's the reasoning that the government gave for outlawing them because they're too like they taste good and then they would make children or younger people the same sort of thing with the flavored stuff. And that's what's really weird is like they don't

taste any better than cigarette. I think they taste awful personally. When I did smoke, I hated menthol. If I lit up a cigarette and it didn't realize it was a menthol and it was a menthol, it was nauseating to me. Mine is Marlboro Black Menthols is what I was smoking the last time I smoked. Before that, it was Marlboro Lights. Straight up, I smoked Marlboro lights for like 10 years and then reds for 10 years before that. So now they're trying to make menthols guys and on our cigarettes, this guy goes how to make menthols and he puts a pack of cigarettes in a jar and then he dumps menthol crystals into the jar, closes the jar and then opens it up the next day and you got yourself some menthols. And he says, did your ignorant country banned your favorite minty tobacco goodness? Fear no more experiment with the above at your convenience by

changing the amounts and timing. I give her all the way and add the same 50 grams of crystals to every jar. Seriously, a teaspoon of menthol will probably work fine. Also enjoy. So now other people are giving their hints and age stro ref says, nah, just buy one of those big bags of peppermint candy and have it like three in your mouth as you smoke. It's cheaper. That doesn't work at all for people. That's not going to work. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what is good about menthols because it's not the taste in your mouth. it's the feeling in your lungs.

Yeah, yeah, it really is. It's a mentholated flavor of the cool smoke in your lungs. Yeah, and those Marlboro blacks were barely menthol too. That's the other thing. They banned the fucking, the switchums, the fucking, the ones with the bead. They banned those so quick. Because they were were like we can't have new cigarette technology All our R&D has to go to vape and so the minute the minute some Incredible thing came out that allowed people to be frankly bisexual with cigarettes for the first time ever

Bisexuality was finally becoming well Explain I don't know what these are explained was finally becoming what we'll explain I don't know what these are explained camel crushes are like a regular camel cigarette that Doesn't taste for some reason as good as a regular campus cigarette But they have a like a bead a gel bead in the filter that you can press down on and it makes it a menthol Yeah And it was good for like non menthol play weren't they legal in places that menthols were illegal? Maybe this guy says, uh, it's, he goes, this guy goes, uh, I'm sorry. And so this guy tells a joke about the big bag of peppermint and the guy goes, oh, my

apologies. It's just that I've actually heard people suggest stuff like that. Ha ha. At one of my local smoke shops, they had a little post-it note stuck up and said, need menthols. Try these with an arrow pointing at extra gum, ha as if single earth buying menthol cigarettes that hasn't tried gum before Lordy Lordy. So just chew the gum while you smoke.

Yeah, that's still, that's the same though. You guys are saying that's not the same. I'll tell you this. I'll while you smoke. Yeah, that's still that's the same though. You guys are saying that's not the same I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this nothing Nothing beats menthol It's good. It's so good. It's good. Such good cigarettes. I've always wondered because I never did hookah. I Did we smoke good? Definitely my friend had a hookah and we smoked a lot of hookah. Yeah the mango flow I don't know. I can't even in my mind figure out what a flavored tobacco tastes like. It's not menthol. Like,

no, no, I didn't. I think like, it doesn't seem like it's for me, for sure. It was not. This guy says I just buy menthol, tobacco and tubes. But if your country's dead ass ban menthol that sucks bro move and then our last guy here move, move, leave your country. Unlikely future says dip your filters and mint mouth wash and let them dry. Now that I think is a terrible idea. That's a horrible idea. I will say this though. formaldehyde if you dip a cigarette in formaldehyde I've done that have you ever guys listeners? You should do that. It gives it a crazy unique flavor

Have you ever done that the the dipped joy? I never have I did one I did one with these fucking guys Came over to this girl's house I used to hang out at all the time and they had like three joints and all of them were dipped and They didn't tell us until we smoked them. We got through them and it was like I was so high It was crazy. It was because we would smoke Primos a lot That's right period that's coke and a joint you put a little coke Comes up you got yourself a nice little smoke and some coke. But yeah, I try those cocoa puffs. Cocoa puffs is what we would call those. I never really, I never smoked weed enough to do that. I just snorted cocaine. Yeah. Well, I was

smoking weed. Yeah. In like high school. Yeah. I turned real. I've gone so I'm low on weed now. Like I just do like a five milligram a day and I feel better. I don't smoke any. I don't smoke weed anymore either. I only do edibles. So I don't smoke anything anymore. Nothing. I'd love to smoke some cigarettes though. I've just been like mostly fentanyl, but sometimes I do. Sometimes I do diluted as well. That stuff stuff. Delighted. Occasionally if you're like, Yeah, well, it's just like it's natural. It's from the earth is medicine.

And so like, Like if you're going to a concert, if you're going to a concert, Yeah, if you're going to a concert, like have like a, like a presentation or something. Like I'll do fentanyl to kind of like, if you have a cool out. And then like, yeah, I'll do Chrissy or whatever.

Like to like, kind of bring myself back up in the morning. Just to keep yourself leveled off Okay, well we are done with nicotine guys is always fucking fun to have brace on from true and on right I have a suggestion before we end. Sorry Have you guys done cigar guys? We will we have I didn't I purposely didn't put any cigar or pipe tobacco stuff in here because I wanted pipe guys and cigar guys separately. Let me just tell you my theory about I know we have to get off but let me tell you

no. Well, no, I mean you have to get off in your daily orgy. No, I don't have to because you go to what happens you bring them up. Yeah, you're obviously you do it at your host Now, you know, yeah my theory about cigar guys is the same thing I have about watch guys is they really just want to take a picture of their hand and wrist cigar guys are very similar to like daily loadout guys because they also have loadouts for their cigars and loadout guys because they also have loadouts for their cigars. And like it's almost always guys like a heavily like Instagram filter, like, like washed out color, like color corrected, like their hand gripping a cigar meaty sort of like phallic thing with like a hand vein rocking with that. And like some gaudy watch. It's like a very, it's, it's cause like I would posit that there's not

even there's cigar guys, of course, and there's watch guys, of course, but the real thing is you're looking at is a wrist and hand guy Mm-hmm. I actually found that also to be sort of true with the We did traveling guys and credit we found want this credit card guy that had gotten this card That wasn't as metal as he it was supposed to be a metal card And it didn't weigh as much as he wanted The weight that he was looking you need a light. Yeah Brace like you understand

But I think they like to show off their fingers when they hold the thing up and they because it doesn't have the number on The front of them anymore. Yeah of them now so you can show your credit card Well, I'll tell you this, Brian. I went to Mumbai, of course, with my entourage and the coolies on the docks as they were unloading our luggage. And as I was about to get into the Palinquin, we're of course tearing a little bit. And so everyone in my entourage just took out our like seven pound credit cards. Yeah, I just beat these men with them.

If you can't if you can't cause a concussion with your card, it ain't a real card. If you can't slap the waiter with your card in your hand and give him permanent brain damage, then I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Oh, and it's an actual actual good suggestion. If you are not a nicotine guy, but like a tobacco guy and you want to smoke cigarettes, is this guy who lives in a rural area. He told me if you buy full leaves of tobacco, and then you grind it up yourself, because when it's in leaf form, they don't tax it in the same way before it's ground up. So you can buy leaf tobacco tobacco like full leaves and he did it. I saw his packaging of it and you know, for $20 worth, it would last them six months of smoking, roll your own cigarettes. Yeah, I'm looking it up now. I was so bad at rolling my own cigarettes, which I try to do for financial reasons when I was a child. I wonder if this is a thing that you can do in America as

well. It might only be in Canada. But yeah, you see it. I'll tell you this, my friend's dad smoked and he fucking smoked Palm Almond filters. So every night when his parents went to bed, this guy would get a baggie and he would empty out the filters into the baggie. Wow. And we had all this tobacco and we had joints or rolling

papers just for, and we were rolling these huge cigarettes and smoking them all the time, but they were used tobacco. A guy had already smoked the cigarette. I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. I have two more quick cigarette things. One, the grossest thing I ever did when I was a junkie is I used a used cigarette filter to filter the heroin that I've just found on the street. It's the grossest thing I've ever done in my life. You can use a cigarette filter, but it's not good to do. You definitely don't want to do it

that someone else smoked that you found on the street of 24 hours. The other thing is when I was in the war, we got, we didn't get paid, of course, but like we got as many cigarettes as we wanted and sometimes we need to have food, but we would have like. Endless ultra light Armenian cigarettes. And so I was smoking four packs a day.

I remember when you were out, I remember when you got back, you told me that the cigarettes were the worst cigarettes in the world, you told me that the cigarettes were the worst cigarettes in the world. It was like smoking nothing, but it also made you feel worse than any cigarette ever could. Thick. Four packs is tough. Four packs is tough. We'll see you all next week.

We don't know what the show is going to be. This is the end of a run. When we come back, Chris will have a baby and you know, braces on true and on. Do you have anything else brace? Well, that seems like, well, I mean, I don't know. Like I do these, like I throw these sex parties. He doesn't throw sex parties. Sex parties.

Well, no, I don't have anything else. Well, you can buy the board, storm, the capital board game online, although it's not the turn-on edition anymore, but I still help make it Nice. All right. We'll see you all next week and Goodbye. Bye