Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 69 - Comic Book Guys with Jordan Morris

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

We covered comic book guys this week with a certified comic book author. What is slabbing? What sort of life lessons can you learn from Batman? How do you get into comic book collecting and did you know there is a whole culture around it?  You can find Jordasn on twitter at https://twitter.com/Jordan_Morris and of course on the wonderful https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/jordan-jesse-go/ podcast that I guested on and they were very hospitable BUT what you should really do is buy Youth Group There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and  https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social   Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Hey there guys listeners, I wanted to let people know that we have a PO box that is PO box 10769 Columbus, Ohio 43212 and a Patreon, patreon.com slash murder X Brian where you can get bonus episodes and the archive of our streams which we do Sunday nights at eight o'clock on twitch.tv slash murder X Brian. Thanks for listening. Welcome to guys a podcast about guys. I am Brian with me is mr. slapper Chris James you slab what does that mean I mean you're a nerd that put your comic books in a thing that isn't like aren't comic like a lot of people who are like comic book people are

thought to be nerds is that I a no? Cause I have a couple of comic books downstairs and I'm not a nerd. I'm fucking cool as hell, but a slab, a slapper sends their, their comic book away to a company. They grade it and then they put it in a thing that can't be opened. And that's looked down upon by a lot of the hobby other part of the hobby. They're kind of they love it You know, but let's get our guests on from Jordan. Jesse go. I got Jordan Morris. Hey Jordan. Hey fellas they're gonna have to slab up this episode and graded at

9.8 because that's that's how perfect it's gonna be or close to this the sickest thing about the slab guys was like the first time somebody sends a comic, but I have a thing about it. We could just go right to that. Cause I have a thing where a guy is like, I sent my comics in to get slab to the CGC, the comic grading something. Yeah. I think it's council.

Yeah. And it's just a private company. Well, I mean, I'm acting counsel. Yeah, I think it's counsel. Yeah, and it's just a private company Well, I mean I'm acting like it good there would be a government version of Said your comics to the government and no great it which if you know socialism Like yeah, if Bernie Sanders would have won we'd be doing it So I kind of do know what this is a little bit just because like it's similar to baseball card creating. Yeah, I think it's I think it's loose sight.

I think it's where you send a comic book to a, you know, not a federally recognized. Oh yeah. In baseball cards is just as it's like a guy his name's like Jerry or something. You know, a lot of Jerry name's like Jerry or something. He's like the intrusible guy. A lot of Jerry's in this line of work. A lot of Jerry's, a lot of Doug's probably. You're probably talking to a lot of Jerry's and Doug's. Yeah.

Light-hot stamper guy. And they encase the comic in lucite, and then they grade it on a scale of 1 to 10. You can use decimal points. Yes. And it has a lot to do with like the printing quality and where the staple is. That's a big deal for great for slab guys is like,

is the staple in the right place? So it's not so much to do with like, it's in mint condition, basically. Like is that just, that's just like, that's understood that it's in mint or is that part of the grading as well? They send it away to find out this, I'll read you this guy.

Okay. Off this CGC forum. His name's Willow Manson and his, his face, his avatar is Deadpool, which that puts him like, I'm a Deadpool guy. I love Deadpool. I think he's like- You don't give a fuck about the fourth wall I heard.

He's just the coolest of all the guys. He's the fucking most annoying. He's the best. I love the movie. He's I want to say he's the most annoying movie character that I've ever seen, not just in a comic book movie. I think he's the most annoying character ever. And so you like so Chris, you like love the fourth wall then you don't. Yeah, I'm actually obsessed with the fourth wall. I'm like, marry the fourth wall. That's weird. I'm obsessed with the- You wanna like marry The Fourth Wall? That's weird.

I'm saying add a wall. Let's get a fifth wall. Let's make it so that we have less connection to what's going on. And also they filmed that movie in Vancouver and also Ryan Reynolds- So good. Is a Vancouver guy and he's like,

he thinks he's so fucking funny all the time and he's always doing this stuff on, for local charities and he's always trying to be like a real card and I just I can't he thinks he's Deadpool I think after he did the movies I was always looking down the barrel of the camera giving a little Eyebrow, ray. I fucking hate Naughty I hate that movie so like I like I shouldn't say I hate it so much I hate like that element of it the fourth wall breaking hate that element of it, the fourth wall breaking. That element of it was so, the rest of it I thought was okay

as far as the plot goes and the visuals and stuff. I didn't mind. I loved it and I do have a T-shirt that has Deadpool smoking weed on it. Yeah, bro. You know that dude loves to blaze. You know he loves to blaze. Yeah, they don't mention it

because they're trying to keep it like family friendly in a way, kind of. But, you know, you know, like once the cameras are off, when the cameras are off, when he's like behind the fourth wall, is that my using that right? He's like on the other side, then he's fucking smoking for sure. Nobody, you know, he's smoking some weed and get some chimichangas. I can't believe you don't like this. It's so fucking cool.

So anyway, the guy goes, the guy goes, I am super disgusted with the latest returns I got. I submitted several issues that were bought pre-bagged and boarded and never read for collecting purposes back in the day. And they all came back as 8.5 to 9.0. So this is what I was interested in. So he's saying basically I bought this and it has

never been taken out of the packaging. They say he said it's never been read, but I don't know exactly. But so if it's so then you could still have one that's like that, but it isn't a 10. Of course you could because it's just a fucking guy who's I don't think there are 10s Chris. You don't think I haven't seen a 10. I've never I've seen a 9.8 and in the research I've done, I haven't seen a 10. I don't think they give out 10. So so and now I know it so Jordan, maybe you could because I don't know if you're a big comic book. I know you have written graphic graphic novel like I know that you've done some of that stuff. But I don't know if I would assume that means you're probably. Yeah, I love to read comics.

I've been reading comics since I was a kid and I love to, you know, I have an I have a local comic shop and LCS that I frequent. And that's what it's called. Yeah. The LCS, the LCS. In the lifestyle, they call it the LCS. Well, hold on. This is one of your pineapple party. All right. Don't compare to this.

Yeah. Don't turn to everything. Holesome hobby. Is it you and your scummy buddies going to town on each other? There's nothing sexual about comic books at all. Yes, there are. Well, we'll be reading some of these. That's actually very wrong, Chris.

You are fucking wrong. Yes, I'm a big comic book. I don't collect them in that way. I don't get them slabbed up and graded. I like the stories and the art and I read them. Yeah, and I have some of them that I keep for sentimental reasons or because I want to reread them. But yeah, I think when I'm done with them,

I'll give them to a friend or throw them in the little free library. How many would you say you have? How many would you say that you have? I probably have, I bet I have 300 comics in my house right now. I have two. And that's not, I have zero.

I have at times had them when I was younger, I definitely was big into Simpsons comics just because I was- Oh yeah, me too. Okay. What? What are you talking about? Hey, Simpsons comics were cool, man,

from the Bongo Publishing group. Hey, Bongo Publishing, and I knew a local comedian in Vancouver, Improviser, was one of the writers of Simpsons comics named Ian Boothby, who's- Oh yeah. Who's actual, yeah, and his wife actually did Why the Last Man, which is like a very fair that's common book.

Yeah that's a very famous comic that's his wife and now I forget her name but yeah they're both local in Vancouver so yeah I have but yeah Nick currently no comics for me. I own the last Ronin Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah. Michael Angelou. That's that's good. Michael Angelo is the last one alive and he's got to go fucking trekking around to kill shredders nephew.

So I love that premises. The other Ninja Turtles have died. They are the party dude has to avenge them. It is good. It is. I was talking to my brother about it and he was like, Michelangelo is like the perfect guy to have that happen to you. They can be Raphael.

But yeah, Michelangelo is the guy up. There's I love it when they get really grim. I'm a big Archie guy. I love Archie Comics. And there is an Archie where he he he takes a bullet for a for the first gay presidential candidate. Hey, hell yeah, Archie. Hell yeah.

Well, we'll let it slide. Yeah, that's they also have the TV show again another we've there's a lot of stuff film they film that here. So you're always seeing the Archie people whoever they are there's the one guy who's a big hunk was that guy's name Luke Perry? No, he's a big hunk. He was in the movie with where he played the kid who was had the relationship with the older woman. Oh, you're talking about Charles Melton who

plays Reggie. Yeah, that's a Riverdale guy too. Okay, so this guy goes, he's a honking. He's a huge He's handsome. He got they all came back as 8.5 to 9.0 issues include amazing spider-man number 375 Fantastic for 265 two copies of unlimited spider-man number one and legends of the dark claw number one I'm trying to wrap my head around how these comics can come back with those lower grades when you can clearly see they're in near perfect condition in their CPC case. What's worse is when you scan the code, it shows issues with the comics. I cannot see whatsoever. I'm now stuck with a buttload of comics that I will barely get my money

back from paying for grading when trying to resell them. What sucks is I bought and collected these comics when I was a kid as a future investment for retirement. Oh, no, no, no. I've got comics. I've got weenie babies. You hear about people talk about this all the time, kind of just like, you know, as an anecdote or whatever, like, yeah, yeah, these are my retirement fund. You know what I mean? These suckers right here. And but I've never seen I've never seen someone on the other end of it trying to like fulfill that dream. Because now CGC is ruining my retirement plans with their crappy grading. I may give them one more chance, but if it's strike three on those returns

I'll never get my business again. Imagine you can't retire cuz some guy named Jerry fuck it gave you a point five Staples off-center Sorry looks like you're working till you're 80. Yeah, you've got to be you're gonna be driving for uber eats Burritos to shitty teenagers when you're 80 to get the staples off center. Revat responds and says, if you think buying them pre-bagged and boarded remotely matters at all,

the odds are that you should probably get some more experience grading comics yourself before submitting more money. Wow, this is the type of snark I love to see in forums. Someone just kind of comes in and like, oh, oh, so you're an idiot. Are you? You know, like, tell them how it is. This guy goes, I'm sorry to hear you're unhappy with the grading, which this guy doesn't his name's the human torture doesn't indicate that he works for CGC, but he is sorry to hear he's unhappy with the grading.

First off, you're sending him books that probably aren't worth the cost of getting them graded, which a lot of people do. Of course. Yeah. That happens a bit with baseball cards as well. That's a big thing where it's like, I want to get this graded. And it's like, it costs quite a bit to grade it. And then they give it back to you. And it's like, it's worth $7 and 50 cents. And yeah. Yeah. Well, he goes, you're making a mistake counting on these books in any grade to help your retirement. Fantastic 4, 265 sells for about $30 and 9.6. Unlimited Spider-Man sells for $47 with a 9.6 rating. So basically he has about $200 worth of comic books. This is one of the, this is one of the, well, it's not bad like in general, but for retirement in this day and age to try to live. How many years do you think?

If you could buy a little lake house for you and your wife to ride it out in, probably not. You could get a house, but you're not gonna be able to get a car. You're not gonna be able to get any of the other stuff. This is a really- You take your wife to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for that. This is a really sad story to start off with, Brian.

This is very sad. It is, it's a good one. Please post a pic of a few of the books here in the grading notes and let us give you some feedback. So this guy- Let us roast you some more. Yeah, that's what I do. It's low grade, low grade bronze goes,

I also have comics I remember being dead mint when I bagged them in 1978 only to see that they're now 7.0s at best. Live and learn, hope it doesn't spoil your enjoyment of the hobby, have a reset moment and enjoy them for what they are. That's a nice message, I like that. Yeah, yeah, read them.

Reset. Maybe give them a read. Oh no. Uh-uh. Just the kids, you know? Yeah, maybe, yeah, do you have kids? I mean, do you have grandkids or something? You know, could you maybe pass them on to someone

and say, hey, this is what, some of them, not sure though, if they're from that era, they might, some of them might not translate so well. 200 bucks. And you can't get your 200, you're never gonna get your 200 bucks back if you give them to a kid. Oh, the kid's gonna get them all.

Spider-Man fights some kung fu guys who maybe haven't aged great. Oh, okay. Maybe we'll skip the Kung Fu one. Oh, Spider-Man's gone to the Middle East. Okay. Maybe the next episode. All right.

Sorry. Addition. I have Superman saves Harlem. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, process because I guess you assume that it's like a new thing or something but I guess that's not even true because the like bagged and boarded is a very simple

thing to do right yeah like it's not the original packaging right no if you buy a comic and you know you want but you want to you know save it for collecting purposes you ask for a bag and a board at your LCS and they'll give you a little kind of cardboard backing in a plastic sleeve for it. But I think some people obviously are thinking that as soon as it goes into that bag with the board, it's perfect. But there can be printing errors. As I mentioned, the staple beam.

Yeah, it's such a big issue. It's smeared. So that's the saddest issue. Smir. So. But this thing that because that's not your fault. You just bought a crummy car. But also, can't you just like fucking read it a bunch and get it all dirty and then put it in one of those fucking sleeves? You could. Yeah, you can put.

You know what I mean? Like, it's not like like it's always the honor system, right? That that that hasn't come out of that. I mean, this whole industry seems this whole grading and slabbing and stuff and seems to run on the honor system. I have this we're going to run through a little bit. This is from Quora. And the questions ask is, what's the best life lessons you've ever learned from Batman?

Just cherish, cherish your parents while they're alive. Tell your parents that you love them because you never know and you'll be hanging out in crime alley. This is from Quora. And here's a few answers. We're going to get these answers throughout the episode. First, you don't need any supernatural power to serve people. Just a lot of money.

Yeah. Training is nothing. training is nothing. Training is nothing. Will is everything and money. So true. You get clear that you need a lot of money because he's got all those gadgets and all that stuff in the underground.

But he's got to have a lot of capital. Generational wealth, generational wealth. Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice to have. Justice and revenge. Both are different. Justice is about harmony. Revenge is about you making yourself feel better. So that's OK.

That's that's the first one I would say is like a real kind of maybe lesson that you could take from something. I don't think it's a lesson you could really take. I think so. Yeah, Jeff. Definitely. If you're if you're out, listen, if you're out there and you're trying to get revenge, you realize you think this is justice and then you think to yourself, wait a second,

I'm about to shoot this guy in his head, but this is just to satiate my bloodlust and all that. You could save someone's life, Brian. So I don't know. WBMD, what would Batman do? I ask a lot of those all the time. What would Bruce Wayne do? Because I actually know his secret identity here's one you can learn you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

so we'll get back into those from is that from Batman I don't think that phrase originated with Batman but I think they say it they say it in the dark night because I yeah they might be the very very famous saying and I do like it I do like like I like it when it is in memes or you know sometimes I'll laugh at that phrase or whatever so I do like it What's the most annoying thing about spider-man fans? This is from our comic books and I went out looking I wanted to find out who had the worst fans It's a marvel isn't it? Isn't it just Marvel in general the movie the MCU fans Yeah, well, we're to only talking about first of all, we're trying to collecting and books and stuff but I Wanted to find out who has the worst Well, we're only talking about first of all, we're trying to collecting and books and stuff. But

I wanted to find out who has the worst most annoying fans and there's two guys. You're right. Yes, that's probably true. There's two guys. There's Spider-Man fans are hated in the superhero comic community and Batman fans. But we'll look into the Spider-Man fans first. I wonder why the hatred for Spider-Man. I guess he is kind of a poor nerd, you know what I mean? And that's why I hate him. Cause he's not big and strong like some of the others. As three jocks, we don't want to read about some same character using science to.

No, no, no. I like my favorite character, obviously incredible Hulk. Well, he reminds me of me. I'm fucking huge. I'm strong. Mine's Thor. To be clear, you're not talking about puny banner. You're not a puny banner. I hate the Hulk.

I'm living my life 100 percent Hulk. You know what I mean? Like I'm always in Hulk mode. That's your secret man. You're always angry. Truthfully, I do have a kind of an anger issue. Yeah. Wow, we're getting real. I'm Thor because I'm handsome and also incredibly powerful. So that's me. So anyway, this guy goes the tendency to over overhypes over over. Love alert. We got over over. I love that.

Oh, yeah. Over. Slap that up and grade it nine. Yes, that's a white hot. Flub lab that up over. That's one thing because it's a word people use a lot. Like they love that. Like they say wash up a lot like they love to sort of just watch what casually in message, you know, they'll post something about it or in the discord and they'll just casually use the flop. So that

one could over I mean, if we talk about it a lot, Jordan, you know, if we really don't let it go throughout the episode, I could help. I think it's gonna catch on. And Brian, people don't let it go throughout the episode. I could help. I think it's going to catch on. And Brian, people shouldn't teach you for the. I do. You're I would imagine the show. You're leading us all through this. We didn't do any of the research work.

I mean, maybe you did, Chris. But no, I did none of it. None of it. No, I honestly, I I think that like I kind of I kind of think this isn't going to be a big one. I kind of think maybe people say it a couple of times and then and then they'll get over it. Yeah. Yeah, they really got over the the nicotine guys episode has just released and nobody has gotten over any of the weird stuff from that episode. My team court and the bathrooms not having doors on the stalls. And also the fact that you forgot to put the theme music on.

Although I did get a DM, uh, see, I shouldn't be doing this on here, but now I have to do it cause I'm on Patreon. I got a direct, they call them direct messages. Um, and I got one from this person that said, Hey Brian, I wanted to stick up for you there and say there were no doors on the bathroom stalls in my school either. So, okay. That's kind of, yeah. But I mean, I think most people are pretty horrified by it. Not horrified, but just like, like I've never heard of that idea. It's kind of a known idea that you want privacy to use the washroom, right? Right, right. I understand. But oh, there it is. I feel the need

to back up Brian here. My high school didn't have doors on the bathroom stalls either. So just let you know that I did get it might have might have gone to your school to who knows maybe I doubt it. I don't think anybody I went to my high school is listening to my show. I would very seriously doubt that they're probably listen. Is there like a bunch of racist podcasts? There are you got you on it would you like me to list some of them No, the I I think that there must have been some people at your school. Yeah, I mean you look you're in Ohio

I just listen to mostly porno podcasts. Oh, yeah, he's got a his porno friend porn podcast. Oh, yeah. He's got a his porno friend. The tendency to overhype Spidey like, yeah, he's a genius and has mid to low tier powers, but it gets ridiculous sometimes. So and this guy goes, there's a post going around where a Twitter user said that Toby McGuire, Spider-Man could beat Scarlet Witch and multiverse imagine madness like what the fuck, L.O magic madness. Like, what the fuck? L.O.L. So, OK, so I don't like this. What is Scarlet Witch's power?

Because I that was never explained in any. I mean, Scarlet Witch is a witch, which has very like very like loosely defined power. She can do a lot of different magic stuff. And I think that happens with a lot of comic book characters like yeah, you know like Superman if they need him to Fly backwards around the world so that time reverses like you can do that. So yeah I think like with a lot of these like magic characters or you know mutant characters They just like give them a new power if it helps the story, but then yeah

like super serious comic book people will love to be like, oh, but does that mean he could beat this character? There's like a section of comic book people that's obsessed with like, who's more powerful and liking people and like giving them power levels. And it's like, but is Thanos more powerful than Galactus? And it's like, I don't know,

it's just what story they're writing, you know? They don't take it. It's who writes the story. I do that a little bit. I do that a little bit. Like not in like a serious way, but like I definitely find when I'm watching the movies that I get like really hyped up,

like in like a real dumb guy way that I'm just like, oh, no, no, no. Ain't you think you can step to Thanos? Nobody you can. You don't have power to like Thanos. You come for the king. You best not miss. And I kind of excited about the idea like, oh, yeah, right.

He fucking oh, he beat him. So he's more powerful than I am. How funny is it that Chris is is Chris is one of his worst enemies on the planet is Kevin Smith and Chris is just Kevin Smith. You're too much like him. Chris, he's not one of my worst. You're always nasty stuff about Kevin Smith and his very good Patreon where you have a problem with his Patreon specifically. I don't have an issue with Kevin at all. I've I've I've I used to watch his stuff. I was into mall rats.

I mean you're wearing you're wearing a hockey jersey and cargo shorts, right? Yeah, I'm wearing my classic I mean, this is I'm in Canada. I mean, can we all know this? Chris had this said to me because he's like I wish you liked Kevin Smith as much as I do Put up to the camera tell me that doesn't look like I do. Put that up to the camera. Tell me that doesn't look like Kevin Smith. You know it doesn't. It looks like Kevin Smith. That's not Kevin Smith. Go the other side. The other side looks less like him. Who's that? So Kevin, like Kevin Smith coin. On the Kevin Smith college coin you just held up. One side is too flattering and one side is a fucking roast

He looks better than he ever has Jokers on the on the one side he looks Thin now, but he looks better here than he does thin like it's like the person that made the coin was like Let's make Kevin a little thin and then he got thin and you're looking at him and you're like nah He looks better on the coin was like, let's make Kevin a little thin. And then he got thin and you're looking at him and you're like, nah, he looks better on the coin. Actually, yeah, he does. He does. He suffers from the thing that does sometimes happen sometimes where if you lose like a large amount of weight that sometimes it can be like off putting at first, you know, but then it just kind of always was with him. And I just kind

of felt like there's something about the way his face looks that is like, it's like, sort of scary to me. Yeah, almost like he kind of freaks me out a bit. A God who restores order quotes, but now that the multiverse of madness has come out, I've seen some Spidey fans genuinely think Spider-Man can beat Scarlet Witch. And then he replies to that quote. He says, those are just morons who are obsessed with Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi.

They have never even picked up a Spider-Man comic in their life. Any person with a functioning brain knows Spider-Man has a minus 100% chance of beating Wanda, even if you gave him prep. Yeah, I mean, listen. Minus 100%. He's got minus 100%.

There's no way, because he doesn't really have that good of powers, Spider-Man. I think he has great powers. No, he doesn't. He really doesn't. When you stack him up against the other superheroes, his powers, he can shoot the web.

I mean, I guess it changes sometimes, but mainly it's just the web. That's essentially everything revolves around the web. Spidey sense and walls. There's a lot of power. Thank you, George. But they're not on the same level as like Superman or like somebody like that or Thor or whatever. Typically, Spider-Man is taken on a more ground level villain,

like a lot of dudes in animal suits and a lot of like mafia size. So, you know, if you're fighting a Galactus, a Thanos, yeah, I mean, of course, you're going to want to call, you know, Thor or Captain America. Maybe well, maybe not even Captain America. I mean, he's not that tough. Maybe Captain Marvel, maybe Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel. Of course, we don't talk about her here because that is what you wrote. It's woke to just be a woman.

Yeah, unfortunately, the wokeness. Let's go look at some of the lakes, man. Fucking female snowflakes. It makes me sick, Jordan. It just makes me wild. If you were to start this is from Quora. If I were to start reading comic books, where would be a good place to start this is from Quora if I were to start reading comic books Where would be a good place to start? I ran into an op-ed going on about how comic books are a whole culture Separate from regular books. That's I want to try this culture. Oh

awesome This guy sounds like a cop but for something legal This is like if I wanted to start with narcotics to make myself hot, where might I procure such an item? It's like, why? This guy is not to be trusted for sure. He's trying to infiltrate the comic book community for nefarious purposes.

Don't let him in, whoever this guy is. I hear it's a whole culture over there. That is really funny. It's a very alien like, you know, to be like, so I'm hearing about these comic, but maybe this is. Well, the guy that answered really also feels like very strange. That's why I got it.

He's got a BFA and an MFA in sequential art. He's a cartoonist, comics art educator and lifelong comics connoisseur. So this guy is like, if you could believe those credentials, this is like a, he's a real person when it comes to comics. The answer, this answer, I don't know why this is, comics are a literary visual arts and or storytelling medium. There is a crossover culturally amongst consumers and audiences in multiple subcultures. In some international comics markets, there is such broad diversity of content that there is not much distinctive association with comics in a specific subculture.

In North America, the birthplace of the comic book and origin of the terms graphic novel and sequential art, Allah will Eisner, there is more destination and separation, but this has not always been the case here and is rapidly changing. Thus, your own interests because how about checkout watchmen? This guy, can you imagine? Have a conversation ever reads a comic ever, motherfucker. I just asked this guy, would you would you like, would you like cream or sugar in your coffee? And fucking 20 minutes later, you know, some sort of Asian on

percolating beans grown in Columbia. And crime, of course, that comes from the bovine, the teeth of the bovine. And he's specific. How about check out X-Men? Yeah. Try and try at fractions. X-Men. Yeah. Two aliens talking to each other. He continues and says, when recommending a comic I tend to find out about

What other works from other mediums they like a bit about them their passions and aesthetic leanings Even then I'm usually surprised by what they actually end up liking Comics are an interesting just to be clear So you're saying you put in all that work to do all this extensive research about what they're gonna like, and you're almost always wrong. It is important for readers to understand how to read comics, a skill not as common

among some Americans. Like, do they mean like actually like because of the way the bubbles are and stuff? Like I'm trying to understand what that means. I find that so intuitive. You know what I mean? Like when I read a comic, I think the way that they've really figured out how to make it very you understand how to read it. So that is actually very straight. This person probably means in more of like, you know, this person I think doesn't speak in a lot of like concrete like, you know, this person, I think, doesn't speak in a lot of like concrete ideas, you know, so I don't think they will even they're probably meaning like, how you're

meant to sort of engage with it and like consume it or whatever. Well, he's not done yet. It is also important to understand that most comics do not result in significant profit, if any, in most cases, even the seemingly simplest work may actually be a masterpiece. Most comic take a tremendous amount of effort to give you such a short amount of experience. The cartoonist or writer and artist teams work usually under tremendous pressure of one sort or another. The reason this is important to understand is so when you react to it, there is a promotional response. I don't know. Making comics often comes down to the loving care of the medium.

Sometimes it's also an act of bravery. Appreciate you. Here we go. Yes. Yes. An act of defiance. Yes. Yeah, it's sometimes well to the face of the status quo. Yes. I mean, I do think, okay, maybe they're talking about like some political cartoons in countries and stuff could be like, but I wonder what this I don't think that's what he's talking about. No, I'm a really funny Deadpool where Deadpool is like, you paid three bucks for this.

I'm freaking gross Deadpool is exactly it. Next guy goes, there's another question on quarry goes, how do I become a comic book collector? David Brown answers. He has been reading comics for 40 years. So this guy can tell you. And he goes badly. A few years ago, I went from a completely alphabetical

structure to grouping by chronological order and company. Starting to think that was a mistake. When I go to look for something and don't remember the year, I end up opening a dozen boxes, then picking something that I haven't read in years and basically lose a couple hours of my day and totally forget what the hell I was looking for to begin with. I've been working on an Excel spreadsheet to catalog the collection since oh the 20th century And he goes I never foresaw a day when my collection would exceed the stock of many comic book stores. Oh God, there's so many like the the world of comics online comics guys is so full of Hail fellow. Well met comics online comics guys are so full of hail fellow well met everyone. I'll say libations these guys all fucking libations

I will head to the tavern for a libation with my fellows libation and a handheld for lunch today. The this Yeah, they're they do kind of seem a little bit nerdy. I noticed that too. How about this question though? This is an interesting question. Has political correctness alienated a lot of comic book readers? Here we go. I would say yes.

I would say yes because there's a lot of young frustrated males who maybe don't have a good I think traditionally speaking, they're sort of known as being maybe a little bit misogynistic as well. They can't. So well, the guy goes worse than that. They have literally made enemies of their true fans. Generations of kids and adults alike just did just fine. Father's PCBS started

to take over. That's what I thought. Hopefully some of these talented artists and storytellers will start a company that doesn't care about your skin color or sexual orientation. Now I have to cut in there and say, I think, and this is just me, I think a comic book, they're gonna have to care about skin color. That's gonna be an issue. If you're writing a comic, I mean,

if it's black and white, then fine. You don't have to worry about it. Well, even then, you know, you can hate it. Shaded there's shading differently. Yeah, no, it is going to be one for the person who is doing the coloring. It's going to be a consideration to make as well. And then I guess maybe there's like, I don't know. I don't work for these companies and stuff, but I would think that like they have like a diverse audience that they're trying to appeal.

No, no, no, no. Yeah. It's all white guys because he goes, this guy says it, he goes, I swear. Maybe they don't want it to be all white guys anymore. Maybe the companies are tired of having this type of a fan base and they want to expand outside of that. I mean, you get mad at you for any tiny change. Totally. They've noticed that like, yeah, that they could just put in some people of color in there

and it might actually you know also white people can also enjoy stories about non-white people oh really i i've heard that i've heard that yeah it won't be like an alien language to you you know you can enjoy a story about some anyway yeah Yeah, there's a lot of these guys. And like if you if you go to an LCS today, there are so many like down the middle Batman ass stories about Batman, like if you want like dark Batman fucking up criminals, which I do, by the way, like I do love. I like the movie. I like I I do love I like the movie

I like the newest movie I really liked and it was yeah, that movie's great like there's so much of that, but these guys will see one announcement about like there's a blue beetle is now a Mexican kid and they fucking flip out and just forget that there are 35 different Batman books on the shelf now where where they can just have a Batman book. It's what these guys like. Or the old Blue Beetle ones that they want to just go back and read those. Sure, Ted Kord. Ted Kord is out there with his Beetle ship,

hanging out with Booster Gold. I know, yeah. And also, you might like the new Blue Beetle. I don't know. I liked the Blue Beetle movie okay. I thought it wasn the blue beetle movie. Okay, I thought it wasn't terrible Yeah, I thought it wasn't terrible. I thought it was like a little corny as all those movies are but I liked it Okay, especially for a Because it's not it's not Marvel, right? It's DC. But yeah, and I'm not a big DC

I'm not a big DC fan other than Batman movies. I don't tend to like the DC movies, but yeah, that one I kind of like. I swear things are backwards right now. I grew up in the eighties and nineties. The nineties were, in my opinion, our last great decade. Oh, the decade where you had no responsibilities. Where everything was given to you. When I was 10, things were awesome. Oh shit, that's when I grew up too. I could eat McDonald's all the time and never gain weight. The 90s were, in my opinion, our last great decade. Even comics were still great. We put so much time and education into treating everyone equally, so it's really frustrating

to see how many of us have regressed so much intellectually If anyone can recommend some good non PC graphic novels and comics, I'd be very grateful I haven't exactly got the yeah, he has a great one. I Haven't gotten the kindness responses from anyone online or in the stores I just get a sad look of no or I get question about what my problem is with being politically correct That last sentence scares me the most the lack of knowledge Do people not remember where that term came from and what it means? I feel sick Well, they're but they so those people though. They're doing fine The people that you're so worried about where you're just like I'm so worried about these people who are like talking to me and saying this political correctness and but they're doing fine.

You're the one that has the problem. You are the one that's upset. Well, let's get back actually saying when he goes into these stores, right? Like, what did this guy really say to the color? Like, totally. Yeah, totally. Just like, well, it's just fucking. Yeah, I don't even want to say what he Like I know but like coming in there like reading seeing a comic and seeing something on there and being like that You know like you had making some off and then someone be the game man Why you gotta be like that like uh is this comic woke do you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by that man, and they just like these fucking people

They don't know what's going on the knowledge is all gone now like when people tell a story where they were wronged they always like Tell it like they didn't like they had nothing to do with it I just asked the officer if it was permitted to have a cigarette in this area It's like no you probably flipped your cigarette at that cop dude like We have a few guys like this coming up because we got some reviews to read the that you're going to definitely be able to see where they're the bad guy in the review. Here's a couple more Batman lessons.

No, you're worth in charge accordingly. If you're good at something, never do it for free. Next one. Anyone can be does Batman charge people when he saves them? He should. I mean, he does. That's the lesson they learned. They watched it and they're like, God, you could be cleaning up. Yeah. They were thinking this is a business opportunity here.

You're not. But he's got generational wealth, as we say. You don't have money. But hey, you know, put a little square reader in the utility belt. Yeah. Like simple nowadays. Tap your phone, you can tap your phone. Yeah, put a barcode on there that they can pay through or whatever. QR, a nice QR code, like right under the bat on the,

anyone, the next one is anyone can be friend zoned. It's a Batman. Did Batman get Batman, at some point, Batman got friend zoned? I mean, did Batman get Batman at some point? Batman got friends on. I mean, I assume these characters have everything happen to them, right? Cause it's like happening. Like there's thousands of of. You got it.

You got to crank out a couple of these a month. Batman's going to get friends. Batman's greatest villain. People say it's the joke. Yeah. No villain named the friend zone. How is it? Let you buy her dinner and then just has to get up early in the joke. Yeah, bill and name the friend zone. How is it let you buy her dinner and then just has to get up early in the

morning. So if you want to fight alone, then wear a mask. It is not for you. It is to protect the people you care about. Don't trust people so easy. Look for signs. So we'll get more of those here in a little bit. We're gonna read And well, I just warning people not to get friend-zoned is all Please don't get friend-zoned. I hate being friend-zoned. It drives me zone we're all like older guys and I don't I don't know if I Family

Talk about getting friends your wives friend-zoned you sometimes I don't I don't know. Ryan and I like family. Talk about getting friends. Your wife's friend, so do you sometimes? Well, honestly, truthfully, I have a newborn, so my wife kind of has friends. So to me, recently, there was a why your wife dinner and she doesn't even put out. Thank you. Yes, exactly. Here is a review of Daredevil, the man without fear from Amazon from Adrian. He gives it one star and he says, I was extremely disappointed that the entire

comic book is about his origin. He is Daredevil, devil daredevil. He is daredevil for exactly two pages. The rest of it is dealing with his past. And if you've seen the Netflix series, it's almost the exact same thing, which I must commend Netflix for making such a faithful adaptation. But when you have Daredevil on the cover and not mad Murdoch, he spelled Murdoch really weird, you expect to read a dare daredevil story. So this guy hates an origin story. I do too. He hates an origin story. I do too. He hates an origin story.

They Hollywood loves an origin story though. Like works really well for films. I feel like right. Cause it has a whole narrative or whatever. But yeah, I guess he feels it was a little false advertising. He wants you to put the kind not in the mask on the cover. If it's's gonna mainly be Him yeah, I guess that's a no no I was gonna say that's a good point. That's not that's not a good point

I was gonna say it was but it's not here's a two-star review of the book I didn't read it so I don't know how good the story is I prefer the more modern art styles of the This guy judged the book by its cover. How could you be out there doing that with all we know about the subject? He did. He did judge a book by thank you. I didn't even consider that I'm ready to find uh, Because the the reviews we're gonna close out the episode with reviews of comic shops, which was

You know one of the more fun. Where are you like where where what city do you live in? I'm in beautiful, altadena, california That's so disarming. So then does that mean that people will know what your local comic book shop is? Is there only one? Uh, you know, no, I'll shout them out. There's a couple of great ones in the area. I love the, I love the comics factory in Pasadena. Great. Okay.

Now comics factory, is it spelled with I X or ICS? Ooh, ICS. Great. Great. Great. Because there's a lot of X out there. There's a lot of people selling with the X. Yeah. especially nowadays. These are dead. Who don't care about

proper spelling or fourth walls. What's appropriate to say in a Disney film. You're a deep pool type guy. Okay. That's what I'm going to say to people when I meet them now. Oh, I get it. You're kind of like a Deadpool kind of guy. That's me very insulting. I'm one. It's not insulting. We're proud of it. This is a review of Batman, the Killing Joke, the deluxe edition. What is that? A comic. This is a comic.

This is kind of a famous Batman story that is like by Alan Moore, one of the like, you know, he's great. I know that name. So he must be very famous. I actually don't love Batman, the killing joke. It is very edge Lordy. It is very well. It's very grim in a way that I think is really like kind of mean and shitty. And I think like mean, shitty comics guys love it. I like other Alan Moore stuff a lot. I think this is like just, you know, something that didn't land for me, but I think that like edge Lordy, why are all comics, you know, woke now guys love the

killing joke. So this is like perfect for that guy. We just think he would like this, the guy that we just. This to him is the ultimate comic. And if anyone asked him, where do I start with comics? He's like, you gotta do the killing joke. It's yeah. Yeah.

It's what, when's it from? When, it as a old one like the 80s like you know that was like mind-blowing to be dark in a comic book like you know that it was that was the commentary anyway whatever uh killing joking great this person says my son needed a banned book for his school book for a school book report some banned books are ridiculous on why they're banned. This one is banned for even being in our house First it's filled with using God's name as swear words, which we don't allow Then there's references to the Joker being a lousy lousy husband But the wife says it's okay because he's quote good in the sack Lousy husband, but the wife says it's okay because he's quote good in the sack

Then there were illustrations of the wife half naked what happened to Batman? It used to be fun for all ages Yeah, the old Adam West days the old TV show the blue Batman doesn't dance anymore. Yeah, why is it? Where's where's his friend little Robin? Yeah, they were Gifts where is Robin? I've been saying I've been saying, if you're going to make a Batman movie, you got to put Robin. First, I said the Penguin, so they did it. Now, I think I'm going to say it has to have Robin in it, because you're a coward if you don't put Robin in the back.

He's doing a trilogy, right? Is he doing a trilogy? Is it Matt Reeves who made the recent one? If he doesn't put Robin in it, I'll hate him forever. I think Robin's on the top. I don't know if Matt Reeves is doing it in his, but there is a Batman movie coming out from the guy who directed The Flash and that will have Robin in it,

which will be the Damian Wayne Robin, who is Batman's son. Oh, I love when that shit happens. Juicy little. Well, I love when it happens where it's like that is one of my favorite things where it's like, this is the guy, but it's like it's a different person, but he's that superhero. Do you know what I mean? And we're all fine with it. Oh, yeah.

We don't. Well, why would I? I don't fucking I don't care at all about any of this shit. I don't even watch the Marvel movies anymore because they suck shit. So I do. I'm versus Wolverine, Deadpool and Wolverine. That's the most excited I've been for a Marvel in a long time. Like that was my own. That's ridiculous. But that's the only time when I would like I got sort of into it because I was into the Marvel movies. So I'd get into the lore a little bit and read up on the characters and stuff. But now I don't care at all.

Well, here's one for Spider-Man, Miles Morales, volume one. I know that. I mean, so this is what the into the Spider-Verse or whatever is based off of, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah., that's my favorite. I mean, superhero movie, as many people would say that, but a long time. Arguably the greatest. Both of them are fantastic.

Both of them. Yeah, I love those. Here's a good one-star review. Bought this comic book for my eight-year-old who loves Miles. Profanity on the first page. Was hoping I can mark it out but continue to read and profanity found

through the whole book. Beware, not for kids. I wonder what the profanity is. It's gotta be, gotta be dam or dang, right? Yeah, it's like, right? People with like one star people, there's a lot of the Lord's name in vain. Yes, of course.

But that'd be funny if it was just like like God justified it like I lined up like those anti woke guys and by five of them. If they use the C word in a comic, if Miles Morales gets punched by the righto, it just feels good. The fucking C word in your comic. You would fucking sell a million copies of this current landscape. This person says stupid comic book. Marvel isn't about anyone's race.

Also, not for seven year old adult teenage themes. This Marvel comic book made everything about race or people's appearance. I've never watched any Marvel movie where the movie was about race. When you say that, you just mean one of the characters was a person of color? Is that what you're saying? Maybe there's themes of race in it and something I guess there is in the movie a little bit like obviously he's dealing with racism in certain instances. And it has touched on a little bit, but it it just more seems like

it's just a person of color in the movie. Yeah, well this next one, we got another comic book before we get to the stores and stuff and this is something that I've actually read. Superman, Red Sun. This is where the Russians discover Superman and he's a communist an evil one and instead of being American right like that's what it is. He's got hammer and sickle on his chest. Yeah. Yeah, that's it It's kind of a what-if story DC does a lot of these where they you know They they give you have this the familiar superhero, you know, but they you know, they give you give you a little twist on the origin What if this happened? What if that happened? Yeah, so in this this one very famous, very good book. Superman

instead of landing in, you know, Smallville, Indiana, lands in Communist Russia. And then there's like, kind of different versions of all the superheroes, you know, and so Cold War. Is he a bad guy? Is he a bad guy? Then? I don't. It's been a while he a bad guy then? I don't- It's been a while since I've read it. I don't know if he turned, I think he remains good. But don't quote me on that.

It's been a while. But just has different sort of expression. I read it a long time ago. Just depending on what year that was, it would be hard to believe that they would have a communist Russian character be the hero and if it was written by Americans you know but the 90s I think this came I think there's maybe a little more nuance there but again I haven't read it in a while so this guy goes Kyle says not in

depth at all so I like Superman and I like history. I love the Tom Clancy books, but I never have been in the comic books before. I thought I would give it a try with this one. I look at I'm sorry. I just like you just I his idea of book like reading is just Tom Clancy books. I just you know, I thought I'd give it a shot. I mean, I do like literature. I like Tom Clancy books. I love Michael Crichton. Does his history is all of his history knowledge based off of Tom Clancy books. Tom Clancy books are not their fiction. They're not. They're based on some, but's are they they're based on something I think sometimes are fully

fictitious. So yeah, he should not be getting your history from them. I don't think I agree. But I think that's probably where he gets his history is my guess because when a guy says I like history, a lot of time it's that or the history channel, which they don't even show no day. One of the times are like it turns out there're just a racist guy. That's also true. Like Anthony is like, I'm really into the history channel, you know, and it's like,

oh, OK, yeah, because I looked up best Superman comic books of all time and this popped up. I guess I'm just not into how ridiculous it gets towards the end. Out of the three parts, the first part was the only one that had some interest out of me. All in all, if your expectation is the serious what if scenario, then this isn't for you. It's more making fun of how silly itself is.

So he wanted a serious Superman communist book. And Steven says this book stinks. If you like communist propaganda, It's spelled proper. I wonder if it's on purpose or that's just how he thinks the word is. You know, I think that that sounds like something that a guy would think. Totally proper word. He probably uses it that way. It's like Stone or older brother said it to him, and he just has never read it on a page. But then he just assumed it's like the root proper brother said it to him and he just never read it on a page.

But then he just assumed it's like the root proper that somehow is involved. It's like, you know, you're propaganda. But so we know he's mad about communist propaganda. So the everything else in the review is suspect. Yeah. Once you hear it, because he's just mad because there's a communist in it. He goes off of his club, by the way, emphasis flub on Brian. They're suspect.

I mean, anyway, also, the characters were underdeveloped. Overall, I give this book one star. It stinks. Save your money for other things. I like the advice at the end. That's good. It's for that's good advice. They don't save it.

Like, get yourself something nice. But I would or lemons or something you could use bags. Mark says just items out there. Mark says just terrible. I could go into detail as to why I gave this work only one star. But the other one star reviews already explain it perfectly. Just know that this book feels like more of a fan fiction written by someone who's lived in his mother's basement.

Ding ding ding ding. My old jam, not even a show. When I do my prank calls, they would always say I was in my mother's basement. I had a whole stinger for the basement show. Whenever there was a basement show. Just know he goes, just know this book feels like more like a fan fiction written by someone who lived in his mother's basement and has learned all of his life facts from comic books.

So savage fucking sad. This comic book reads like it was written by a comic book fan. Imagine it is a comic by people who hate comic. Yeah, all the people who are professional comic book writers are probably fans as well. Superman, I really like Superman. I came to Superman late in life. I thought he was a little bit corny as a kid,

but I learned what was cool about Superman recently-ish. I think he is a great character and I think he's great kind of recently ish. And I think he is a great character and I think he's great when people write him great, but like there are some corny assholes who love Superman and just don't want him to change at all. People got mad when they changed. So he's got the trunks, right? They're like, he's got the blue suit,

but the little red briefs. They took away the briefs for a while and people fucking freaked out. Well, that is that is ridiculous. What's up? It's getting mad. It's all bad all the sudden what? That's in that I watched the Woken lib fucking woke libs take that does happen with the woke I wonder did they take it away because it was showing his penis too much or something? Well, maybe he was drawing the eye to the penis. I watched the old movies rather,

the Christopher Reeves movies within the last couple of years. Yeah, those are great. Fucking great. Gene Hackman. Yeah, they're a blast. So good and so funny in that. And yeah, those are great. Fucking great. Gene Hackman. Yeah, they're a blast. Oh, good. So funny in that. Yeah, I know they're like, yeah, they're like funny stuff in those movies is kind of underrated.

I think I think like Reeve is such a funny like comic actor and the slapstick stuff and the like, well, they won't they stuff with Lois Lane is so great. And yeah, I loved it. I loved it. But I really want to watch the bad ones. Oh, but I really want to watch like the, because I remember when I was growing up, I was a really big fan of the one with Richard Pryor in it. I really want to watch the bad ones. Oh, but I really want to watch like the Because I remember when I was growing up. I was a really big fan of the one with Richard Pryor in it Oh, yeah, just show it on HBO all the time. Yeah, and I was a really big fan and I think this is

probably for horny reasons of the one was Zod in it because The woman that was with them was like, oh Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's some hot Kryptonians because the woman that was with them, I was like, oh, hello. Yeah, there's some hot Kryptonians. But just to put a nail in my point about corny assholes loving Superman, Jerry Seinfeld loves Superman, so like. What's the deal with that? This guy though, he's, speaking of woke,

I just read, he said that a little while ago that you can't make anything funny anymore because People he got mad at the woke as well, and I don't know why it made me laugh so much But like it was during a press run for the fucking Like something about that just really really made me laugh when I read that that he's like he's here the next sentence was like he's just really, really made me laugh when I read that that he's like, he's here. The next sentence was like, he's speaking to him in promotion of his Netflix movie frosted about the origin story of pop tarts. Yeah, Jerry, they let you make a pop tart movie where Hugh Grant dresses up as Tony the tiger. Everything's fine. Everything's great. Yeah. The idea of... The idea of... The idea of...

The idea of... The idea of... It's a great idea to go out and say you can't make anything funny anymore while you're promoting your new comedy movie that comes out on Friday. Man, they wouldn't let you make it fun. That's unfortunate. Did you show where you drive around with Jim Carrey and get coffee and just fucking chat while people film it in your Ed Soler or whatever.

Yeah, you don't. There's a funny article I saw is like all the jokes that Jerry Seinfeld couldn't tell today and it was just all these fucking horrible milk toasts. Like nothing non-offensive. So The Laughing Ogre is a comic book store in Columbus, Ohio I've only been there once I don't I went on free comic book day when my kid was young to get her comic books that She never looked at So this first review is one star from digging for pennies and he goes gotta love wearing a muzzle when all the other stores Don't require them and they don't like your second amendment rights either. What's your second amendment? That's the gun. He wants to come at bookstore with a gun and no, so this guy says he wants to take

his mask off and bring his gun in. And you know what I gotta say? Sounds reasonable to me. Why can't you bring your gun into the comic book store? I listen I live in Canada. So all of this shit is just it's so ridiculous to me when do people are talking about being able to bring your gun into a store shit at the Okers Den or the laughing ogre. Here's a one star review from CL and he goes a breeding ground for leftist activism over. This is not what it is. Over the years, I have been spent a considerable amount of money at this

store at the very least $5,000. When I bet you that's not true. When I go to a comic book store, I go for the fun and escapism, not to hear the staff make disparaging snide remarks about politics or Christianity. It's very unprofessional and inconsiderate to the customers. This is what happened when I went last weekend where I was about to spend at least $100 for a graphic novel. This is fucking awesome. I love that.

You just lost my traffic. I was about to spend this amount of money, very high amount. Very high dollar. Give them one hundred dollars. I was a high dollar purchase. A three figure purchase. Take a purchase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. Like, holy fuck.

And they're probably they're going to know what the fuck. We fucked up here. Damn. Because one hundred dollars for a graphic novel and a few back issues of Frank Miller's daredevil That was the case until I heard the skinny curly haired brunette bad-mouth Christianity. Hey Geniuses Democrats aren't the only ones who buy comics great business tactic This is why the industry is in decline. So until she is replaced I won't spend another dime here and I bet you money has definitely gone back. And also, I don't think that's the reason that it's in decline.

If it is, I don't know if it is. But I don't think it has to do with fucking individual retail workers making offhand comments about Christianity. I don't know. It feels like that's but I really do. I mean, it's probably you probably shouldn't be while you're working. Be you know, saying yeah, negative stuff about Christianity, whatever. Like I am not a big guy or whatever. But yeah, just I guess I wonder what it was. I wonder what it was. I don't think it was a little bad. Yeah. It's probably a little tiny goof. This person. Now I was telling you guys that there are some reviews where you can definitely

tell that you're only getting the wrong side of the story, right? This might be one of the biggest, one of those we've ever had on this show, this review. And it is one star and goes, a friend and I went to see if laughing ogre was open it was raining outside so we decided to stand under the awning and smoke before we went in a man with gray hair who must be the owner came outside and hollered at us for smoking outside and patronized us

saying something along the lines of what made you come here to smoke why did you choose to stand here smoking Smoking is disgusting. He kept saying that over and over too, as though he was fishing for confrontation, like he wanted us to say something rude back to him. I think he wanted you to leave. I think he wanted you to stop smoking. Yeah, I think the kids go into, he, he's, and it's, I don't know, there's rules here about it or whatever,

about smoking close to like. They are here too. But like, so, yeah, I just think that, listen, maybe he's being a little too aggressive with it, but it sounds like he doesn't like. He wasn't. Yeah. I'm betting he wasn't, because there's more to this.

He goes, he goes, I'm pretty sure he thought we were burnouts. I was wearing oversized baggy clothes. I'd appreciate it if you didn't smoke outside of my business is a much better and respectful way of getting your message across. We've done that. Shutting it. You know what? Asking for people to use decorum when they're telling you to like

get out like fuck off, man. He's telling you to get out and fuck away from the store. Just get and fuck away from the store. Just get the fuck away from the store. You know, he goes, we've gone there many times and spent hundreds on comics. Lame. We won't be coming here again. Here's our unsolicited opinion on your practices. You're a fascist and a jerk. The other people that work here are also rude.

A fascist. Wow. Get I love that we're are also rude. Fascist. Wow. I love that we're breaking that out in the last couple lines. Drop in the dropping the fascism bomb. I mean, yeah, I love it. A. This guy is probably a burnout and B. Like, yeah, what was he? What was he doing? He seems dressed.

He I mean, I don't think you should judge people. And, you know, in Canada, you could take them to the Human Rights Tribunal and get that taken care of. You're fucking obsessed with the. He's talking about it to me these days. He's always bringing it up. He's obsessed. You know what it is, Jordan? I don't. It's just a thing in Canada that where if somebody like is

is discriminated against. For wearing baggy clothes and smoke. For whatever reason, you can take them to the human rights tribunal. Some people abuse it, but it's important and effective and positive in some ways. But yeah, Brian's become obsessed with it. I love it. Golden Age Collectibles, which is 852 Granville Street. Oh, I know

that place. I have been there many a times that's right out on the Granville strip. So that's right dead downtown, like the Granville strip is where all the nightclubs are and stuff. And so that's like right downtown in the heart of downtown and I've been there because they have sports cards as well as oftentimes a nerd store. Yeah, it's just like a nerd store. It's got all kind of nerd type stuff. So yeah, a lot of times the place and I as a kid,

I got a lot of comics at baseball card store. Yeah. Are you a baseball card guy, Chris? I am not as much anymore. My dad really is. But when I was younger, I was obsessed. My dad still, we still go to baseball card shows. I go with Stefan actually from Blocked Party and Go Off Kings.

He goes to them as well. That's why I know about the grading and stuff like that. Right. But yeah, I was obsessed with. I actually collected Greg Maddux, who was a pitcher for the Atlanta Braves, Cy Young winner, and he only threw- He's kind of a Blue Beetle type.

He only threw an 85 mile beetle type. He was a he only threw an 85 mile per hour fastball. They call them the professor. He was like this super nerd who became the best pitcher in baseball when everyone was like trying to jack up their arms and throw 100 miles per hour and he was doing it with 85 mile per hour fastballs. He's like a fascinating dude. But yeah, I collected like every card that he had. I have every card of his ever still. Vaz Vegas gives one star to this place. He goes, never going back there.

I was browsing new releases recently and reached for a book only to have it taken out of my hands by one of the owners and told it's not for sale. It made me feel like a criminal. I had been going there often, but their old man ways and bad attitudes have worn me over time. Worn on, he says, worn on me over time and that was the last straw. They're always sold out of stuff I want anyway. There are many better comic shops to choose from and the GVA,

so you can avoid this place. That's the greater Vancouver area for anyone who doesn't know. But listen, they've always been so nice. can avoid this place. That's the greater Vancouver area for anyone who doesn't know. But they're, listen, they've always been so nice. Anytime I've ever gotten in there, the people have always been really nice and helpful. And, you know, they're, it's kind of like an alternative. The workers there are oftentimes, you know,

they're like younger and they've, they're dressed kind of wild maybe. And that, you know, they're just kind of like cool, almost like counterculture type people that you'd expect to see. So they do kind of a little bit have that like attitude of like, you know, they're not like jumping down your door, can I help you with anything? They're not I hate that too. I hate as well. So they're just like, but they were always very helpful and always

very courteous and kind. So I think this this person might be the problem. Well, the main complaint and we'll read some from L.A. too. We got Golden Apple Comics coming up here. Oh, OK. I love Golden Apple. Yeah. Well, Stefan Rogers hates it and he says Golden Apple comics more like rotten apple. Oh, shit. Oh, fuck. I never even thought of that.

You're taking apart. It that. They got taken apart. It hurts. That's painful, if you're thinking. I had heard many great things about Golden Apple Comics and their vast collection of comics, so I decided to pay them a visit. However, what should have been an exciting experience turned into a nightmare due to their rude and abysmal customer service. I love the foreshadowing.

Oh, is there anything else? That's it. That's the whole. Oh, come on. People are so nice to Golden Apple. I I've been shopping at Golden Apple for for for probably 15 years. Everybody's so nice in there. I yeah, I don't know. I don't know what happened. Yeah, we're we're not having the same experience as these reviewers are. Well, maybe we prefer. I prefer the experience of if I ask you a

question that I want you to talk to me, if I don't just stay away. I don't want that. This guy, Edgar goes, never was greeted by any of the personnel inside the store. Employees were far too busy stocking shelves with new comics. Well, yeah, that's how you get them. You can't go to the back. You're not allowed in the back. They have to bring them up from the back and put them on the shelves. They didn't let me hang out in the break room. They didn't invite me to go out for a drink after they got off work.

This is fucking crazy You know comic book stores will sometimes have you know a comic book guy behind the counter the character from the Simpsons, you know, It's that's that's you know, that's based in reality. But like It's people who are at least yeah, the one that I go to they're just kind of doing their own thing And yeah, it's a stoned blue haired teenager. Yeah, which is cool. That's like a he goes, he goes, not even that. They didn't even say hello to me while they were stocking shelves.

It goes upon 10 minutes inside the store, looking through some boxes of one dollar comics. I make my way up to the register and I'll ask someone greets me. I was ready to buy two comments. That's where that's where someone usually greets you at a store. Yeah, what did you want? Oh, they did not offer a hail fellow well met. Jordan, you're exactly I don't know what they I can't even answer exactly what I was not offered a good morrow kind gentlemen. Or flagging of ale. Yeah, this is this is.

This winter's day. Yeah, they want them to, I guess they just, they want them to like greet them, like say, hey, how's it going? And like, you know, sometimes people do that when you go into a store or whatever, but like not always. I don't, yeah, I don't know.

It's never really affected my experience at the store ever. No. Well, he goes, someone I was ready to buy two comics, but then last second I decided to leave. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. By the way, $2. $2. You'd rather spend your $2 elsewhere.

$2 is barely even money. Arizona iced tea. Like $2 is like, is genuinely not like $2 Canadian dollars will not even buy. There's not even anything you can buy here. I can't think of anything. Yeah, I can. You can buy one pretzel stick the small ones from my pretzel place, which is how I judge all prices. I got my own pretzel place and go, I decided to leave. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.

The comic bug is far better than this cramped space. So I went and checked out the comic bug. I also liked the comic bug. That's a great, that's a great store. Well, Angel says, Where is this located? This LA too. But whereabouts in LA. So like I know.

And beach California, because I know there's two comic bugs. There's one in Culver city. I'm sure people are loving this. The hyper local. Oh, but I am Brian. Brian doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. Ryan's just like, what are these places? He hasn't got a fucking clue, but I love talking about my old home away from home. Manhattan, there you go. Manhattan Beach, a lot of people think Manhattan Beach is in New York. Absolutely not, it's in California. And Golden Apple is kind of in West Hollywood.

So yeah. Oh yeah, I know. I love West Hollywood, now that's my place. Angel, how far up? West Hollywood is a great spot. I mean, it has the gay area, but also has the comedy clubs as well. A lot of them are in West Hollywood also. It's a really nice part of, it's better than Hollywood prop than the comedy clubs as well. A lot of them are in West Hollywood also. It's a really nice part of, uh,

it's better than, than Hollywood prop than the other part of it. None of the staff greeted me as I over here. I am a huge LA guy. None of the staff greeted me as I walked right by them at it. I walked around for a bit waiting to see if any of the staff would acknowledge me or the couple that had walked in ahead of me. It seemed like we weren't see if any of the staff would acknowledge me or the couple that had walked in ahead of me. It seemed like we weren't wanted as none of the staff greeted us. Although I saw some cool items. I prefer to spend my money where I'm wanted.

Why would we? You're not going to buy the stuff you want now because they didn't say hi to you. Right. Like get the stuff you want, man. Don't starve yourself of things that you like. Now I purchase no groceries for the man at the Kroger. Did not offer me a good morrow. So I am sitting at home eating napkins. Honey, do we have anything for dinner tonight? No, actually, we don't. Nobody fucking greeted me at the grocery store. Are these places where people are like car dealerships is a place where people greet

you? I guess. I was in Walmart yesterday. I was in Walmart yesterday. I don't want to brag. A family went out to Walmart. We strapped a kid on. But that's they famously have greeters.

Walmart greeters. Yeah. That's job creation. It's job creation. And it's not really even a thing. Like you're 50-50 whether you're going to get a Walmart greeter when you walk in anyway. We always get one around in Vancouver at the Metro Town Walmart. It depends on the entrance you go into.

Good point, Brian. It depends on the entrance. Go to the upstairs entrance, you always get the guy. He's really good. He's a good greeter. He's a young guy. He's in a wheelchair. He's very friendly, very nice.

He's always going to give you that greeting. But I like the this review because he says how he walked around for a bit testing like he was testing the customer service in there. Yeah, I hate that playing games with them. Like he's like undercover boss or secret shopper. Yeah, totally. By anyone. Yeah, he's doing secret shopper shit just like fucking on his own.

You know? Yeah, it's very it's very like the expectation seems to be somebody walks up and introduces themselves to me and then maybe I can buy some comics from them. But if they don't, then yeah, that's bizarre. I'm not gonna fucking buy comics from a stranger. I'm not gonna, yeah. I went to Yelp to check for the CBCS,

which is the group that they, comic book, it's a grading company, you know. CBC, CBC, as far as well. But Canada stands for CBC stocks. We hate our national broadcaster. I think I think we do. I'm not sure if we do. We get some CBC programming down here and I always kind of like it. No, we hate it.

We hate the CBC. Oh, actually. Well, the people I mean, I think anyways, Dave and Graham definitely work with the CBC. And so maybe we don't hate everything about them. We love them. Dave and Graham from Stop Podcasting. If anybody would employ Dave and Graham from Stop Podcasting.

They gotta be. They're pretty good in my book. Yeah, me too. Me too. Overall turnaround time was OK, but I did pay for the Express. However, their expertise is lacking in the authenticity department Paid a decent amount to have the comic that we had autographed by Stan Lee to be graded and wanted it sealed after authenticated Unfortunately, they returned it unverifiable with a low grade the lower grade was fine But we never would have sent this if the value was in the autograph,

but to pay all this just to have them say it was unverifiable, are you kidding me? We have this autograph, but clearly they're rejecting authentic autographs because they're so-called experts, our inexperienced idiots. Yeah, I mean, that's again, it's like you think a forger could do like,

I don't understand how that would work. Like, I guess there's like you think a forger could do like, I don't understand how that would work. Like, I guess there's like forensics that they do on some like small level, but like, yeah, I think it would be very difficult to do that, to say the authenticity of a autograph. We talked about it a bit on the autograph guys episode, Chris, where like, so we talked about how there's guys that coach famous people on how to make an autograph that

somebody would have a very difficult time. You remember that? It was on Quora, which could mean anything in the world. This is our last review of the episode and of CBC. Yes, I have a I have an autograph anecdote. So I you know So as Chris mentioned, I do write some comics. I always loved doing it. I did a story in an Archie issue, one of the like, there's a horror Archie line called Chilling Adventures.

And I was browsing around on eBay, kind of wondering if any of them were up there. And there was a slabbed up, good condition copy of the book for a hundred bucks on eBay. It was going for a hundred bucks. And then a little bit down, there was one I had signed. Like I will go into a, if I'm in a store, I'll like sign them. The one I signed was $104.

I used to tell people when I would go on tour, we would have these big posters that we sell. And they people would be like, Hey, you know, can you sign the poster? And I always said, it's going to be worth less with my signature on it than it is without my signature, because the artwork is really fucking cool. Right. But and I'm just drawing all over it. I even have a bad signature. You know? Yeah, I believe that.

I believe that your signature is a grotesque. My signature is great. This is the last review for CBCS. It's from Jeff C and he was the first to review it. I just found it funny because again, he gave it four stars. First review, he goes, CBCS is comic book grading and certification service

for the avid collector who wants to protect, authenticate his or her most cherished comic books, books graded from a point five to a 10 and encased in a plastic holder. Thus, if you're holding on to a Batman one or a Hulk 181, CBCS offers a clear option to protect and enhance your book. customers can avail themselves of their services at many comic book convention or just sell the send them their books into CBCS for grading the quality of their grading services right on par with the biggest competitor CGC but CBCS is slightly less expensive. The most unique thing about CBCS is what the fuck?

Why are you ending the episode? What is it? Because it's very funny. This guy obviously was hired to write this because it's the first review. Yeah, a lot of the information. Their website was easy to use and customer service was available from nine to five.

He ends up by saying all things considered, CBCS is an excellent option and the comic book grading and certification arena. However, my only complaint is that their turnaround time seems to be much longer than CGC's, but hopefully they're going to work on this. But that would be like the main thing. The turnaround time is really bad for this stuff, Chris. Like I know it.

Oh, I know, buddy. I know. It's probably just the same thing because it's just like a couple of fucking dudes that they're in their garage that are doing it and they're just getting thousands of them sent. It'll be months sometimes before you get them sent back to you. People were saying that they... Yeah, it's very a break too. Jerry has to go to his family and unions.

Thank you. Yeah. That's why you got to do it record wet. The way the record industry does it with the white hot stampers, you don't send them to be graded. You buy them from them and they go looking for the white hot stampers. You know what I mean? Yeah. Remember the white hot stampers, Chris? I remember the white hot stampers. They're meaningless, right?

That is the white hot stampers. That is a non woke comic book that you can get. White hot stampers are records that a guy listens to and says, oh, this is a this is a, a 10, this record is now $500. I think we saw like five figures, but that is comic book guys. You won't believe the amount of stuff I have in the doc. So comic book guys are going to show up on guys plus for sure. J.

I almost called you Jared Jordan. Yeah. Sure. Sorry. You know, I I look like I could be a Jared. I give I give off a Jared vibe sometimes. His friends with Jared growing up and like the last I saw them was like we were like 23 and he was still living in his parents room and they were buying him weed and he asked me then he had the subway thing.

Well, I wouldn't be surprised. This guy didn't leave his house. He had like the long fingernails and the beard and like he would sit in his parents room and smoke cigarettes and weed all day. That was a friend of yours? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't like Sean, the porno guy, but Jared just was a weird dude that he just sat in his house all day and like watched TV and we would go over there because his parents

would let us smoke weed in his bedroom and smoke cigarettes in his bedroom, but none of them smoked, but they put a fan in the window and they're like, yeah, it's funny. Like they knew he was never going to do anything. The guy I would believe that he would not have a job now. And it's just sitting there smoking weed. He ended up hating me after a while because. OK, I think Jordan, where where can you find you? Thank you. You could find me at my mom's house smoking weed in front

of the fan. I'll be over. She keeps coming into the room. Come on. My mom doesn't care. You have to order us some little Caesars. Keep seeing her over your shoulder trying to get your attention. Right.

Well, I'm in her basement right now. I am in my mom's basement too. Yeah, we're all in our mom's space. You know, it's funny. My mom actually lives. I live in an apartment building on the top floor. My mom lives in the bottom of the same apartment building. Very handy for a new place. My mom lives in my bed.

Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, yeah. Love it. Yeah. Hey, speaking of comic books, I wrote a graphic novel that is coming out in July. It is called Youth Group, the artist by a great artist named Bowen McGurdy. If you like the hip Christian guys episode of Guys, Youth Group is set in that world.

Hell yeah. It's supposed is, what if the hip Christian goofballs had to do exorcisms? So it's a bunch of those types fighting demons. Yeah, hey, if you're a comic book fan, you'll like it if you if you only read the occasional comic book. It's a complete story. So you can just you can grab it and read it and you don't need any previous information. Bowen's art is gorgeous. Yeah it's got you know if you like Shaun of the Dead, if you like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, similar kind of tone

there. And yeah it comes out in July but oh gosh we would love a pre-order so you know you could head into the comic bug, you can head into the Golden Apple. I'll link it too. Oh thank you yeah or just you know Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever you get a book, bit.ly slash youth group book. You can check out some of Bowen's great art. You can get all those pre-order links. And yeah, I hope people check out the book. I'm really proud of it.

I'm stoked. I think hopefully, hopefully I don't get roasted for it being too woke. Can I ask, does Mike Chung come up in the book at all. No, no. Honestly, if I would have heard that episode of guys, you've asked her brags about going on tour with Wang Chung. I absolutely would have put it in the book.

That is the greatest detail. Um, yes, no, no Wang Chung jokes. If I'll, I'll tell you what, if I if I get to do another one, if we get enough, if we sell enough of these that I get to do another one, I will do my darnedest to put a Wang Chung joke in the sequel. Oh, that's the best detail we've ever I it's one of my favorite details ever on this show.

How long how long will it take somebody like me to read this type of book? You know, it's a longer book. I think you would maybe call it a graphic novel, but I think you could take it down in a weekend or a day if you're just sitting there reading it. I mentioned a month before. I mentioned, what?

So a month for you. I mentioned before, I guess you mean because I have a newborn and it's hard to get any sort of. I have a kid and I can read all the time. Your kid's an adult. Doesn't even live at the house anymore. So that's right here in the other room over there. So I was cut off by Brian before,

but I was saying I'm going to get there. I'm going to buy this graphic novel. I actually am. I'm excited. It's hold it up. I got a copy of it. I don't know. Okay. The art does look very very very gorgeous book Bowen is Bowen's kind of a genius. Okay, sweet I'm gonna I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna I've never read a graphic novel ever before in my life This is gonna be my first one. I would love it. I would be honored. Hell. Yeah, I sent you the prison Mike shirt

by the way, Chris Hell yeah. I sent you the prison Mike shirt by the way, Chris. So prison Mike for president shirt in the mail. It costs $27 to ship it, but I have it so bad. You remember the character prison Mike Jordan? I don't. Uh-uh. Oh, that's because nobody does.

It was, it was actually the one, that one episode of the office where Michael puts on a bandana and calls himself Prison Mike. The Chive has done an entire line of merchandise. The Office is the funniest thing in the world to those guys, I'm sure. The worst thing about buying that for you, Chris, was the text that came to me that showed like that I've ordered from the chive two other time fuck man you gotta change your life I mean I will wear that I'll wear that on stream yeah I'm wearing this on stream but this is gonna come out later but yeah I have to wear this

on stream Sunday yeah and you got to wear that little mesh number to hedonism don't you I will not be going we'll see y'all next week Bye