Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 74 - Toastmasters With Stefan Heck

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

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Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian Quinby. I'm your host. There are many types of guys. There are guys all over the world. And we're going to take you to see some guys with me. I have my offensive joke master, Chris James. That's how they all talk.

Yeah, no, I figured. Yeah, that, um, listen, I was expecting it like it was obviously a little bit of it was kind of like nice. The professionalism was kind of nice. That was kind of a nice change of pace to have somebody, you know, oh, they've prepared for it. They're not going to say something entirely insulting about me. I, that's insulting being an offensive joke masters, but we're saying do. Oh, oh, sorry.

Oh, OK. So that's a bad. That is the joke master. And now you've offended everybody in the Toastmasters audience. I see. OK. It's an offensive joke. And then also our guest this week, Stefan Heck. Hey, Stefan. Hello. How's it going, guys? Great. Let me explain to you guys what the To masters are. They're public speakers. And you know what? They fucking compete at public speaking, which I find the craziest thing. There's like champions.

Yeah, because I've definitely heard the term before. Like I've heard the term toast master. I'm kind of familiar with, you know, somebody who's good at giving toast, but I wasn't aware that it's a real league type thing. How do they determine? I'm sure we'll get into this, but is it based on the content of the speech or is it how they deliver it? Is it a combination of all those things? Audience reaction? Is it an audience reaction? Is it based on, do they have a clap-o meter? Because then you can play to the audience.

You could suck up to the audience a bit. Ryan, do you have any of clap-o-meter? And then you can play to the audience, right? You could sort of suck up to the audience a bit. Ryan, do you have any of the answers to those questions? The answer I have is that it seems that there's judges that judge the speeches. And like, you gotta work your way up to get to the championship. Not everybody's competing. Right.

So how do you get? How do you get into the championship? You have to. So you have to declare that you're going sort of pro in your club. Okay. Love that. But that's so that's not you can do. Anyone can do that. Anyone can do that. And but then you have to get certified as like a distinguished toast mask. And that's cost some sort of money. I would imagine that you pay to some money involved,

but not much. It's like $250 a year. I'm thinking about joining. I mean, that's a significant, Brian, don't do that. Ryan to learn a lot. What are the benefits of it? You learned public speak and you learn, you have a podcast. You already do that though. Oh, I know. But you could always get better. I mean, you should hear the way these guys talk. You know, it's really impressive which we're going to do a lot of this week. Let me bring up our first guy. He's a champion and he gives us and he's a champion.

He gives a speech on humor. It's the funniest humorist. Like this guy is the funniest humorous speech by Darren LaCroix. Let's hear how these guys talk a little bit, you know? What is this like? This is a champion, Darren LaCroix. Just for laughs, but it's a different spelling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that seems like a different one. Just for laughs is a really, well, not anymore. It's done now. It's over. It's been ran into the grounds by corporations. But Just for Laughs is like a really famous comedy festival. This is Just for Laughs, L-A-F-F-S.

It seems like that's kind of, that would stand up in court. Does it also say, I mean, it's cut off, the image is cut off in the video itself. Good video. Does it also say, I mean, it's cut off with the images cut off in the, in the video itself. Does it say humorize to humanize? Yes. I believe that. Oh, well, when you hear this guy talk, you guys are going to be like, I should join the toast masters. Oh, I don't think I'm going to be saying, Oh, you'll love him. This is a DVD by Darren LaCroix. Have any of you ever tried to describe Toastmasters to a mere civilian? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's good, I got a big laugh. Did something else happen? That was a huge pop. Something might have happened in the crowd, you know what I mean? Someone like fell off the stage. Fell off of a, like, yeah, somebody fell over or something, humorous happened in the crowd. Do you know what I mean? Someone like fell off the stage. Fell off of a like, yeah, somebody fell over or something. Humors happened off the off camera that we can't see. By the way, it says that he's the Darren is the 2001 world champion of public speaking.

I would actually give that to George W. Bush. So thank you. Yeah, he was great. Yeah. You talk about what we love. I'd love to see this guy give this humorous speech in front of the burning wreckage of the world. Trade. No, he would fold this guy.

Yeah. You can't handle it. He'd be trying to make jokes, you know, here it goes. We spend here and now I think about what this conference is and what's the purpose we get together and I'm thinking about, well, we're here to support each other and educate each other. And when we have a 10 step program. Oh, the look at that. Oh, wow. Okay. This guy is a pro. This guy's really this guy's a pro. The look he gave it. You can see it. But the look he's getting the way he just

kind of he was looking down as he was saying that, and then he just kind of looked up at the audience. He's mugging. He's mugging. He's doing it. He's almost going full. I will say I will say a lot of the work there was done by the editor, I think. Absolutely. The camera did cut to a different angle there also. I just have to. The audience is dying laughing when he said 10 steps. Yeah, that was a love that I just need to quickly.

I think my cat might have taken a crap on the baby's play mat because we got a litter box and the cat's not doing it well. And I hear the baby crying and can't really be very able to deal with all that on her own. So I'll just be back in one second. OK, they're always throwing things up here. And let's me and you. Sure. Yeah. I was reading our public speaking and somebody somebody asked is this a toad? They need a toast masters alternative because those are too expensive. I guess or well dorks. I think

Really bad when we get to hear more speeches. You're gonna be like, holy fucking shit. These guys are Horrendous because I've noticed. I mean, obviously this guy's like not very funny, but he like kind of stumbled on his words earlier and it's like this guy's the public speaker of the year. You know? Yeah. But dude, when you're at the meeting, they have one person called the grammarian. Fuck off. That is like if your grammar is wrong, you're going to get it.

How have you found something? How have you found that? First of all, I I'm on this episode like last minute, so I was not prepared for how annoying the postmaster is going to be. But I how have you found a group more annoying than the than the flying spaghetti monster? Well, I you know what? I feel like there's a lot of crossover there probably to be honest. Maybe we have always, I don't think we've done enough sort of making fun of like

white collar people. Sure. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like we did sales guys and, and travel and I think productivity, I think those are all sort of white collar, but this is like, so if you want to get on a management track at a lot of businesses, yeah, like you should join Toastmasters, you'll learn how to talk. Now, I don't think there's a big, huge problem with learning how to to give a speech. I think that's a specialized skill, but they also, and we're going to do a few of these. They also do a thing where they have to do

it off the top. They practice just having conversations with people. Oh, okay. Well, that's off the cuff and that's weird to practicing having a conversation with someone like that's yeah, that's just kind of one of the aspects of being human. Like I know, and I don't want to make that I know it can be more difficult, I guess, like, you know, in social situations and stuff like that. But yeah, like training to have a conversation does seem strange.

Chris, can I ask you, did the did your cat poop on the play mat? Oh, yeah, it's very funny. Oh, yeah, the cat sure did. I just cleaned it up. And yeah, so just cleaning up some cat shit, baby screeching over the shoulder. Just in the meeting, they have a grammarian that corrects your grammar, which is, I guess, whatever. Who cares? Right.

The other thing they have at the meetings is an ah and um counter. So if you say ah or um in your speech, they count it and then they tell you how many times you did it when you're done. Right. That's that's that's that's grounds. That's grounds for a fight. It's normal. It's normal to say um or or or uh, I do it too much. I do it too much. These guys probably get so mad if you say like if you throw a like, oh God lose too much. I do it too much. These guys probably get so mad if you say like, if you throw a like. Oh God. They lose their minds I bet.

They don't like like. I changed my mind by the way. I changed my mind. I think it's okay to practice having a conversation. I think there's not a lot of like socializing, maybe even nowadays, especially a lot of people are spending time online that they might not be like having a lot of time interacting with people. I think it's like if you're doing it for the purpose of just having a good conversation with someone and getting to know them better

or something like that, I think that can be a positive. I guess it's better than the alternative of not doing that and not talking to you. Yeah. Well, that's why we're going to do a table topic now. Chris, is there too much sport on TV? Where did you get this tabletop? Ghost Masters International Web site? Well, I mean, I would say personally, no, I'm a I'm a big fan of sport and.

Oh, oh, no, no, but too much, too much. I'm in like, I'm already lost interest. Wow, that was immediate. I believe that sport is very important. It's an important outlet for people to, um, to like, we're going to vote you out of the club, actually, which you can do. You can vote people out of the club. Let's listen to more Darren. No, no, Wait, you guys have to say about what you think. There's too much. I can't do that. Don't just hang me up.

I'll go. I'll give it a try. Thank you. Okay. You guys are terrible here. Let me do it. Of course, there's too much sport on TV. Sometimes people get a little too competitive.

So when they watch TV and they see sport, it can maybe sometimes cause fights in the family sport. Ended by saying sport. That's what I did. Yeah. It was kind of a reframe. That was just the question. You reframed.

Yeah. You think it's bad because people are fighting over it, but I would argue that that passion is important. I don't argue. I thought you said this was like a, but I thought you said it was a competition. Well, I want. This is not a debate is what you're saying.

Oh, it's not a debate. Each person just does their separate. Right. They're not actually going back and forth. I know. Okay. Nope. All right. No, but you guys have to just agree with me now. What's Darren got to say?

This isn't a toast master regional conference This is a big kid. Sorry. Can can you pause it bothers? You guys aren't watching this He just did the most rehearsed hand signal everything like like a flutter, like a hand flutter, like a clearly rehearsed. This is going to sound really mean, but this guy has, and I say this about a lot of guys that I watch online, but it's really true here. This guy really has Mikey Miles energy in terms of like, most of you probably don't know who Mikey Miles is and don't look at all. Look it up. If you don't know who Mikey Miles is and don't look don't look it up If you don't know who Mikey Miles is just continue living your life be happy for it

But if you know who if you know you know because he wants to be a professional actor He does cameos that are very rehearsed and it does feel a lot like he feels like a this guy feels like a Like a software CEO version of Mikey Miles. That's so good. Cause you know who, have you seen the video of who's the guy who owns the clippers? The Microsoft guy. Well, I only know, I only, I only show, I,

there's only one Clippers owner for me. I'm watching. Well, of course. I'm watching the clipped show right now. A good show about what a, you know what I didn't realize about what's what's the guy's name was Donald Sterling, Donald Sterling, horrible guy. But he died too, didn't he? I think I don't think so. Oh, but but I think obviously, obviously horrible racist guy that touched upon quite a bit in there, but also just like a really annoying guy as well.

Like just like really annoying everybody, all the players, everybody hated this person. Ever. Yeah. I just want to say the recommended videos on the side of Brian's YouTube are so funny. You'll Ray Romano, Ray Romano on club random. Yeah. Yeah. Ray Romano on club random. Yeah. Yeah. The episode that the episode that got Robert Reed thrown off the Brady. I believe so. I brought up another guy, Brian C Robinson, who was also a champion. That was master. I thought we'd play this guy too. So you guys can, we're going to play a few guys so you can hear how to give a good speech. So that the next time I do a table topic with you, you'll be ready to do it. We're ready to go. And so is there different styles then there's like different styles

or is everyone kind of doing it similarly? Well, this is where you go. Okay hate this guy already. Oh my God. What is he wearing? You should go in this white suit that is does not fit him him, but in a way that's weird, it doesn't fit him. It's not like the David Byrne suit, but it is kind of like a cut. It's like the David Byrne suit, but it's pulled in really tight. It's so strange, man.

I don't know. It's so strange. And like the, are those, oh, that's a lapel mic, I guess, up top there, but like also it's just, the cut is so strange on this. And the way he carries himself, this guy's kind of a bit of a buff hunk kind of yeah He looks uncomfortable on looks like a wrestler in a suit. Totally totally easy wrestlers in suits Yeah, this guy this guy I hated the way he turned and like presented himself to the crowd Can we see that again? Actually? Yeah, see the turn again?

All right. Here we go. Here he comes. Look at odd, dude. He walks out like a actually. Yeah. See the turn again. All right. Here we go. Here he comes. Look at a lot, dude. He walks out like a model. Yeah. Oh my, you know what it is. If you go back to where he's standing, his, his, he's sticking his chest out really far on his ass out really far back. And so he's built like a center. He's, he's, he's a very strange man. Brian C Robinson. I can't wait to hear him talk. Listen to, yeah. Let's listen to what he has to say. Thank you, Mr. Contest chair. Is there something that tells you you're supposed to wait until every last? Because he did this weird thing where he stood there for so long and there was a few kind of small little laughs or claps or whatever. And he waited until every single last one was finished.

He's wearing an insane bracelet. Oh my God. Yeah. What is that? It's huge. It's I'm going to make that picture of this guy. And this guy is one of the top guys you're saying. He's a champion. Fuck. Yeah, he's great. I think we could all become Toastmasters champions. Legitimate. Well, not not you. I don't think you guys would. You guys on that trend that I'm a over here yeah I mean give me a right yeah I'm sorry that'll give you guys another chance here in a minute but let's hear a little bit of this guy's a Brian C Robinson speech it's really good and all you sexy people Have you noticed a decrease in your desire for intimacy? Have more than one or two people come up to you

and said, you look so hot. What is up with this camera? The camera's like moving, it's shaking. It seems like it's edited like a Vic Berger video or something like that, but it's his own video. I'm seeing something in the background that explains a lot about his outfit is that this is in Miami.

Yeah, this is for Toast. This is Toastmasters Miami Championship. So this is a regional, regional championship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, and it can get you to the national championship, which we also have one of them. So let's let's check the sky out. I go back. I want to hear that joke.

You want to hear him joke? Yeah. It's not a very good joke. More than one or two people come up to you and said, you look so hot. What happened? This huge laugh, if you could just, if you would imagine if you went up there and told a real joke to these people, would they just, would they like start flipping the fucking tables over? I think they would start like killing each other. They would go mentally crazy. Are they aware of stand up comedy? It's very similar to this except people are making real jokes.

I mean, I see what you said earlier about about like managers doing this because it really does feel like like Steve Carell in the office. It's that sort of energy. Yeah, sure. I want to read you guys this thing real quick because this person wants an alternative to Toastmasters and and I'm going to read you three comments that are really wild. First is space in my face. And he goes, I've really enjoyed the virtual speech phone app. When wearing a VR headset, you can upload your own PowerPoint presentation and speak in front of various quote audiences from small work meeting to being on stage in a large auditorium.

Now I find that weird. Virtual reality performing. I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to think of it now. I guess that if you could make it really realistic, that could be cool. I know you can't, but if you could, if you can make it really realistic and nowadays they probably could with like, you know, like the top of the line stuff. And if you could feel like, Hey, I'm performing to a sold out theater or this beautiful theater or whatever. And you like tell your joke and it's programmed to like laugh. You can just get a buzz. Well, remember we played that comedy club game on golf Kings like years ago and we had to stop because there's no, there's no way to do private rooms. So they were just like racist kids coming in all the time.

Yeah, they were telling their stand up jokes and their idea of stand up was not not good for the terms of service. Not great. But yeah, I think it would be an incredible thing. Of course, the thing that this person is doing, I don't think it would recreate it. I think it would. It's just like playing a video game of being. It's like, yeah, it's a video game, but in the video game, I'm doing meetings. Well, it's like, it's like Guitar Hero sort of where you're hitting all the

notes, right? You have to hit all the notes of the speech because it's so rehearsed, right? Just, just all the movements and everything. Like I'm just imagining a toast master style video game that is like guitar or yeah, you have to press the button and hit all the notes. If you don't like that, like you have to like the um, toggle. And if you don't hit the um, toggle, are nothing you start hitting ums and likes in there. They got a thing in your hand where you're doing the gestures.

If you don't do the gesture. Yeah, you'd have to do it. Have to be with the we probably would be the or the or the connect. You've got the connect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that probably works better because the other thing you need is the mugging. And it needs to see your face. Yeah. You like recognize them.

The little mugs that you do after certain lines, you know, table topic time. If you had to try a wait, what? OK. Oh, oh, excuse me. Well, that's so good. Was that considered good? And we're supposed to take the table topic from this fool. Yeah, no shit. Chris or we'll do Stefan first here.

OK, make up your mind, idiot. If you had to start a new hobby, what would appeal to you? Well, I'm a man of many hobbies Brian and Chris and I think I would love to try something new that I've never tried before like Thinking well, I wash my ass and I don't consider that a hobby. I consider that a staple of my of my day That's I think I got a weird. I consider that a staple of my of my day. I think I got a weird Steve over here, stapling his I believe the both both of you know that I am into collecting hockey cards

and I've considered getting into magic cards, which is even worse. But I think I would like to give that a go and throw away a lot of money into that. And Brian, I think that's something that you can respect. I love that. And I think that was a very good speech. Now, Chris, I'm gonna ask you a different question. What is the difference between living and existing? No.

Oh. I would say that existing is simply to be to be on this earth. And whereas to, I would say that whereas living is to truly experience life and to, you know, I would say where existing would be somebody who gets the Lego sets and only builds the Lego sets as they are told to be built. Whereas really living is somebody who does MOCs, you know, and wants to be a little bit creative with it. We don't talk, take a shot, said other toast masters members and our speech that's not the sort of thing that we do here. So I'm gonna have to, you know, kind of fail you,

Stefan, I thought you were great. I really do. Oh, I apologize. I didn't think that would be insulting to anybody on the toast masters panel, as I assumed that it was all adults. Well, I went to our toast masters and here's a problem that can come up sometime because most clubs have a joke master position.

Sure. When you say a club, okay. Now I'm trying to under, now I'm understanding this a little bit, but again, this is one of these situations where I don't think I'm fully going to grasp what this is. I don't think you're ever going to understand. Even by the end of the year. I don't fully understand it. It is a hundred year old organization of weird guys that gives me.

When you say they're getting together somewhere, are they, is it just like a, is this a business that does other things or is it like a specific club for toast masters? There are clubs. So you can find a club in your area. I know for a fact that there's a Vancouver one because I saw a Vancouver joke master. But he was so bad. I felt sorry for him. So I didn't put him on show. Maybe we know him. So, but also I don't know. I'm sorry. I apologize, but I just have to interject here to say, I'm getting a clear indication of what type of people we're dealing with here because Stefan, the Vancouver Toastmasters Club location is at the Kitsilano Yacht Club.

Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. I mean, this is, I guess this is, these are rich people. It's rich guys who, it's rich guys who want it. Well, I mean, like you said, it's the, it's the managers and stuff and business people who want to give speeches at like conferences and stuff. And that's why they suck so bad. Yeah, this makes sense to me. OK, so that's yeah, I would never go. The Vancouver Toastmasters Club, I would never go there. It's meeting times weekly Mondays.

That's today from seven p.m. to nine p.m. Oh, you guys should actually go. Oh, my God. Membership restriction. None. The club is open to all interested parties. I have a phone. You can't go. What? Brian, you're going to be up here. Not not that far off.

Brian, Brian's Brian showing up at the Kitsilano Yacht Club in this exact outfit. And we would film it and stuff. And, oh, Brian, let's, let's, I am honestly, this is, this is doable. Um, visiting a club is the exciting first step to building a better you. So there you go. Well, my wife was told years ago that if she wanted to advance and she works at big corporations, she wanted to advance and she works at big corporations, she wanted to advance in that company that going to toast masters is like one of the steps you should take because

like it doesn't just like they are like, we're not teaching you just how to give speeches in a fake way, but we're teaching you how to talk and relate to people at a fake way. Yeah, good point. Yeah. Just in a business meeting and a one-on- way too. Yeah, yeah. You know? Good point. Yeah, just in a business meeting in a one-on-one interaction, yeah, we can show you how to feign, you know, interest in a way that will actually trick somebody. Well, I called you this at the beginning of the episode, Chris, so now I'm going to read

you this post from our Toastmasters. Offensive Joke Master? My club has a Joke Master position who tells a joke or two toward the beginning of the meeting. One of our members, an older guy, loves to take that position. And he often tells jokes that would have been OK 50 years ago. But now are seen as offensive, dumb blonde jokes, ethnic jokes. OK, I would have maybe let off with ethnic jokes and also 50 years ago.

Like that's, you know what I mean? Like there's things that were considered, okay, 50 years ago is a lot of stuff. You know, if it's only kind of bad, then you're like, Oh, stuff that would have been acceptable 20 years ago. And he goes, it leads to a lot of awkward silences and eye rolls, but not much laughter. He's also very sensitive. How would you handle this? I mean, just why don't you talk to him?

See, this is why these people, they don't really, that's why you go to toast masters, right? They don't understand just the idea of just like a normal interaction with someone. So they're like, how would you possibly deal with this situation? Like I don't know, walk up to them and say, Hey man, those jokes, like kind of aren't, you know what I mean? Like they're kind of out of date or whatever. If you want to get a better response and not make it so awkward, maybe try to steer clear of that kind of stuff. I think it's so funny that there is a position for guys to tell jokes. And an older man is just like every time showing up first to sign up for the show.

I mean, says something offensive. Well, it's a thing like what are the jokes? Because it's not stand up, right? So are they just telling like street jokes? Basically, that is something I was fascinated with because like, yeah, it sounds like it dumb blonde, you know, yeah, a lot of posts were like, hey, here you go. I'll ask you weekly wisdom. This is a weekly wisdom post from our Toastmasters.

Welcome to the weekly wisdom thread. Please use this thread to contribute your experience, wisdom, general thoughts, and any videos you may have on serving as a Jokemaster. So I got you a list of what you do, the things that might help you. Deliver jokes as the joke master. Okay.

R slash jokes is a great source for material. Oh, that's, that's a bad place. Probably. I don't know. I didn't go to it. I mean, are they going to mention, are they going to mention stand up shots next? Cause I mean, that is one of my favorites, but stand up shots is like almost that's that's like, yeah, that's like a real, a real portrayal that they're doing, whereas they want to just steal jokes from like, right, right, right.

Yeah. Alexa, like just everyone's collective kind of, you know. Well, here, personalize your joke. So it's never quote a man walked into a bar. Instead, it's insert club members name walked into the bar. I thought, yeah, I see you walked into the bar. I walked into a bar. Oh, I'm so when you're insulting, like if you're doing like

if you're making fun of someone specifically, then maybe then you just tell me like, yeah, you know, Arthur Smithson walked into the bar. Everyone's like a whole Arthur. Yeah, he does like a drink How many entries does it take to put in a life Next next tip is memorize it, Please, oh please memorize it. Keep it clean. And finally, this is the good, this is the good shit. This is gonna help a lot of you people listening

if you're ever joke master. Blonde jokes are way overdone. Make it about your dumb sister or something instead. They're getting too many dumb blonde jokes. I know it's crazy. Like I still make fun of women. You can still be. You can still make fun of women for being stupid.

Make it your sister. Yeah. You're dumbass. Notice they don't say make it a club member because it's all a bunch of rich white men. Oh, yeah. Women in the club. No idea. Is there women toastmasters at all?

Yeah, yeah. Here's here's here's here's a good one the club. No idea. Is there women toast masters at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's a, here's a, here's a, here's a good one too for humor. Had a Reddit moment at toast masters yesterday. Oh, that's a bad sentence. It's the table topics question put to me was, would you rather fight one horse size duck or 100 duck sized horses? I opened with, surprisingly enough,

this is not the first time I've been asked this question and no odds and I got quite a few compliments on my answer. Sometimes being a Redditor pays off. Who, people complimented you on saying that? That's good. I mean, I guess that's like- I mean, I guess that's like- Question, you know what I'm saying?

That's kind of cool, I guess, to get that kind of positive reinforcement in your life. Somebody is just like, hey, here's a silly question. You're like, that's not the first time I've been asked that. And number two loses their mind. People will vote you out. Yeah, like, hey, I really thought you did a great job. Good, good, sir. Good, sir. Perchance a hot dog be considered a sandwich and then all these middle managers just start

fucking using their shit. Surprisingly, I've ordered a hot dog sandwich and then fucking they're just throwing stuff. This is what I'm, we're watching this guy, this Brian C Robinson. He's still on the screen. I need to hear more from this guy. It's now i'm kind of understanding as well these big applause. I wasn't thinking about that the audience is other wannabe toast masters Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure Do you sometimes look in the mirror and look up and down and just roll your eyes?

If this is happening to you, you have lost your sexy. But I've got great news for you. For over the past 25 years, I had developed an organization called the TSI total sexy Institute. This is OK. This is what. Where is this from? Right when eight years, eight years ago.

This is from 2015, 2060. That's not even that long. Well, I guess I guess it was uploaded eight years ago because it could have been filmed earlier, because it does. It doesn't look quite does seem old and Sexy Institute he's like putting his hand up when he's doing it. He's like he's doing a lot of hand motions too much With the bracelet still it's I can't imagine this guy's as a champion. I think that that is a champion I don't believe him. Is he a regional champion? He's regional. Maybe regional, but here. Yeah, this would fly

in Miami, but not at now. Yeah. You're not taking this to the national stage. You're getting what you're getting laughed at. All right. You guys are laughing, but not in the way you want to be laughed at. No, no, they're laughing at you. Not with you. All right. We're going to get you away. No, wrong guy. Shit. I flubbed there a little bit. Not really. Shit, I lost my guy. I had a world champion.

This is kind of a flaw back. Yeah. And I'm also I'm not really sure. Let's just do a question. Brian's like, oh, I had I had a world champion. I swear I was going to show you the best of the best. And it's like, do they? I am showing you the best of the best right here. Brian C Robinson, scientific research, 100% natural and no money back guarantee.

We've developed something that's so powerful that it changed the lives of fossil, the farms, and then you excessively date. He's fucking shouting too. shouting to slaying though. He really is rushing now was that fossil the Fonz fossil to Fon fossil to okay like you're an old fossil but then you can become the Fonz. Yeah. All right. Well, here's a question. It's like 90 by the way Arthur Fonzarelli, right? Very timely reference Here's a question. Does your club do an indigenous acknowledge?

Indigenous people are on the news more and more. Oh my god. They all talk like this That's the thing is like my only hope is that I get across how crazy they all Where where where is this credit? No, but where, Oh, post masters or shows mess. I will say like, I'm really worried with where this is going to, yeah, I'm worried about it in Vancouver. They definitely, they do a lot of land acknowledgement. I don't think they're doing it at the kids yacht club. I don't think they're doing it in the kids yacht club though, for the toast Master. You'd be surprised. I mean, they do before like Canucks games.

You'd be surprised. And it does feel like, you know, I mean, listen, it's a good positive thing and it is important to remember that and to acknowledge it. But there are times where it's quite performative and it's also, it's lost a lot in Vancouver. There's a Starbucks near my place that has, uh, that has a land acknowledgement on the Bolden board. And it's already I have a union meeting. They had the REI had an anti-union meeting that started with land acknowledgement.

Yeah. Yeah. Yoda TM one does pose another question. He goes, why stop here? Let's have acknowledges for all nations. All species of animals ever live to acknowledge. I suppose will be cool Then we can proceed to acknowledge famous inventors without whom we would not have wonderful technology Marvels of today by the time we get halfway through the list the meeting will run out of time, but that's okay Hey buddy, he would acknowledgements during next meeting buddy. Buddy are head over to our slash pasta farians

They'll fucking love you over there Chris Chris when you were cleaning the cat shit off your the baby's play mat I I basically said like these well I said they these guys are more annoying than those guys but I feel like there is a lot of crossover yeah yeah yeah they're very they have a way of talking that will Antek drive you crazy. Yeah. So this and he ends up because see, go to TM is he's sick of the woke anyway. He goes, by the time we get halfway through this list, the meeting will run out of time.

But that's OK. We can continue with acknowledges during next meeting. And then a guy replies, he goes, I can't see any club doing that. The guy just not getting it. This guy's being like a racist ass. Like, I don't think it's going to go that far. I don't know why we would ever do. It seems like we would have no time to do the actual meeting in that in that.

Here's a guy using a throwaway account because I don't want to give away details. I had a speech tonight as did one other member. Okay. The problem for me is that during the evaluation, the other speaker, the evaluator said something like, I'm sorry. The other guy was better than you. I found it to be inappropriate and offensive to use that time to take a dig at me.

While in general, I enjoy this person. There have been times when I found certain things somewhat less than, but okay, the evaluator does have a tendency as a quote, old timer to bristle at any suggestions for change. What is interesting is that I would have rated us neck and neck. What is the most interesting about this thing is that I personally do not think I was worse. So funny. And it was only two

speeches. And it's like, how dare this guy compare me to the one other guy? I think that's it. By the way, just to be clear, I think that that's the evaluator. That's his job, I think. I believe so. They're not doing this in a vacuum. Yeah, no, I think that that's the evaluator. That's his job. I think I believe so. Yeah. If you suppose they're not doing this in a vacuum. Yeah. No, I think that it's but yeah, I think and listen, it's it's going to be tough to hear that. It's definitely tough to be sitting

there and say, Hey, the yours wasn't as good as the other guy. That's tough. That's tough to, you know, it's tough for your ego for sure. But then a guy replies and goes, ha ha ha club full of assholes. Not you though. Yeah. What a pointless thing to say. Who cares how you compare against someone else? And then the guy replies and goes, thanks. I cannot go quite that far. It's certainly the case that people are numb to it or frankly, did not just catch it. I like the folks.

So he's not going to leave. He just, you know, he's going to get out of the system table. He'll think about them differently now, though. Everybody else, of course. Yeah. Table topic time. He'll think about them differently now though, everybody else. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. It is time for a table topic. We're going to go to Stefan first. And if you could hang out with him.

He went first last time. He went out last time. I don't want to say, I don't want to cause any issues. I'm the guest. I understand that. And I know I've been causing a lot of issues at these meetings lately and getting stuff tied been causing a lot of issues at these meetings lately and getting stuff tied up in a lot of red.

You want to do like a really long land acknowledgment? We forgot to do that at the beginning, and we didn't even acknowledge the dinosaurs. I just kind of think that I was thinking about maybe because I'm older and I just think if there's any fair way to do it. And I've been I've been talking about this a lot lately. And I think that the most senior person should probably go first. Well, then you can go first. OK, Chris, go ahead.

This guy, this guy literally looks me in the face and says, um, then you can go first. Oh, what has this club become? Well, Chris, here you go. The zombie apocalypse is coming. Who are three people you want on your team? Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, you know, I got to have Chuck Norris. That would bring the house down. That would be the funniest thing that's ever been said

at a time. You'd be world champion immediately. I think the way to do it, and don't let me tell you how to name your three guys. Oh no, I love collaborative efforts on this. I sort of wonder, I feel like, so this is your three guys, so obviously we can do a rule of three is like comedy thing here,

where maybe the first two guys are people you would expect, and then number three is like, my damn aunt Mildred. Yeah. My fruitcake, you know, that she makes a Christmas and that thing's hard as a rock. Yeah. I think I would probably have. And the first two have got to be really good, strong ones. You know, like I would probably want to have Morris, you do Arnold

Schwarzenegger and then maybe I would want to have staying bold for his extreme speed and athleticism, you know, like I would, I would want to have the world's strongest man or whatever. Like something. And then I would have Mildred for her damn, you know, and then everyone would go crazy. Yeah. They were losing. Yeah. We put somebody in the meeting maybe in like, you know, you'd be like a Charlie over there

would be great. Yeah. So much coffee. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Charlie, maybe Charlie coffee teeth over there would be great. Yeah. So much coffee. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Charlie, maybe Charlie coffee teeth over there. So much coffee.

It's stained his damn teeth. Here's a world champion from 2004. I got you a world champion from Marine. Wait, no, this is the wrong guy. From Reno, Nevada. So really see it shouldn't be this hard to find the world. Well, you know what this is? This is where we're going to take a look at this guy

and see what it takes to be a champion in the realm of public speaking. I think that's important. But but is this is this guy? What is his level of? Randy Harvey lessons from Fat Dad. This is really good. I will also say the Toastmasters logo sort of looks like Goatsey a little bit. He's got some goat.

See, if I just have a little bit, it's got to really they're standing on a stage right now has a bunch of like flags behind them. Yeah, you got to have it looks like to like kind of 50 something year old businessmen holding hands on Feels like these this feels like model UN for grown-ups. It is it is Let's hear tales from fat dad. This is a champion this listeners. This is a world champion, okay Nice He's wearing it when I was seven we drove to my cousin's for dinner and to show off Fat Dad's new

car, a 1960 Ford Fairlane. I fell asleep in the back seat and my folks left me sleeping as they went on up to the house. me sleeping as they went on up to the house when I woke up I stumbled out of the car and headed for the porch I was surrounded by a pack of black and tan hunting hounds champion this is what takes this is the worst the best public speaker in the entire world in 2004 this guy was the best in the world. Did everyone else die? No.

Who, who, who. That was, that was his dogs. His dog noises were who, who. You know what this sort of feels like to me is, and Chris, you will get this reference. This feels like a, and cause I will say the, the comparison I'm about to draw. I love this I grew up listening to this on on CBC radio on on on the weekend

But it does remind me of like a really really shitty version of like the vinyl cafe with story Yeah, yeah, which was great because that guy was like he would go from town to town. He'd do live shows He'd be telling these stories, but he was like a legitimately very talented storyteller Stories of real people's like stories from around the yeah It was like interesting stuff where really is Canadian legend This feels like they heard that or that sort of thing or like what's the who's the NPR guy like it feels like that? I reclass yeah, or there was the guy who who was like an I turn out to be like an old creep by Prairie Home companion Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's now? I know I'm there is David

Prairie home companion. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's now? I know I'm there is David. I don't know. It's not whatever there is. No, it's not. It was. Did he have a trophy? Was he a world champion? Did he ever hold a title? I don't know that he had a trophy. No, but it does.

It just feels like these are the type of guys who hear like other more actual talented storytellers and like I could do that. And then they I mean, I guess that's specifically what it is. They take a class for it. And there's got to be more here. It's it's so that Harrison Keeley, by the way. Yes, that's specifically what it is. They take a class for it. And then there's gotta be more here Mr. Contest chair fellow Toastmasters and guests. I was frozen like a tree raccoon I was bawling and screaming. The hounds were circling. He's standing on a chair right now. Are you allowed to use props?

Is this storytelling? Well, it's a speech by a champion, so I guess you can say whatever you want about it, but this guy has a title in his house. There's a trophy on his shelf. Table topic question. Chris, thank you. Can creative creativity be taught? Why or why not? This is a bad question.

I'll give you a good one. Here's the next one. I'll give you. Let me. Here's the next one. I'll give you. Let me help you. Let me help. Do you think flying cars will ever be a thing? So this is an older question. I'm guessing we know this is from the Australian Alpha Toastmasters Club because do people

care about flying cars anymore? It feels like that's just not a thing that people really care about, right? It was like a thing that people cared about in the early 2000s, late 90s. They were like, oh, flying cars. But it feels like- Do you know that they would suck if they existed? That's what I always say about it.

I think that it's kind of like people discovered like, oh no, it's just not, it's not gonna happen really. And it's not really a thing. So I would say, no, I don't think flying cars are going to exist ever in my lifetime I think that the the Benefits are far outweighed by the deficiencies That would be you would have to consider as a society when Let me tell you actually is something a story about what I was going to camp with this is good

This is good and I think you ever made a single noise, though? That's what I was. They're coming. I think the noise I was going to camp. It was camp pig farm. What? And when we rolled up on the street, what was the topic again? When we rolled up on the street? You're doing great.

I is good. You're doing great. This is good. I heard these pigs. It's about flying cars. And the horses. This is a winner. And at the end of the day, I looked at this beauty of nature and animals, and I thought, why would we want to impregnate this with the

disgusting seeds of technology let's leave our earth the way that it is I am a pastafarian I put I wear a collinger on my head thank you very much for your time that was beautiful I think that was great Stefan I. I'm ready. Let's go. What's the topic? Save money or spend up big. What's your recommendation? I would say both. Why not save money so you can spend up big? The end. That's not good. You need to have some time. I think I sort of that's all I that's all the time I need though. I've made my no, no, no. You got to you.

You need this. There's like there's actuals time thing that you have to fill stuff. You're not get because I'm looking at it like a from like a speed running perspective. You can't do that. No, we don't speed run in the toad speed run. OK. Oh, here we're going back to Brian C. Robbins here. Robbins here. What am I talking about? The TSM Total Sexy Makeover. The Total Sexy Makeover is available today. It's an eight-week course and it's composed of three parts we call it the trifecta the first part is the sexy look

Next sexy walk. Oh, he's doing a walk everybody's poor old This shit does not fly outside of Miami Anywhere He's doing this guy. This shit does not fly outside of Miami. This doesn't fly anywhere. What other other comments on this, because there's not that many views on the video. Thanks. I love this speech. It was a blast giving it Brian. So he actually the only comment comment. He didn't upload the video. No, it was uploaded by confident presenting.

Oh my God. It's good. I mean, unless it is. Oh, sexy moves. It's the same thing as the walk. Basically, basically. Yeah, he just did the walk and now he's doing. Lose. It's the same thing as Joe walk. Basically. Basically. Yeah.

He just did the walk and now he's doing the walk again. If I had known that this is what this episode was going to entail, I would not have said yes to this guy. This guy, this guy is, I don't like his style at all. I like the nerdy guy from the beginning. For sure. Yeah. Way more than this guy.

Even the world champion. I like more than this. They feel they do feel more polished, you know? Yeah, definitely. This guy does not feel polished. He feels like he's really relying on all his like moves and his slick kinda, you know, like we, we, we joke about the world champion from 2004, but like I would, I would listen to that. If I was at like a work event or something and that guy's giving a speech to be like, all right, well, this is like fine. You know, yeah, that's fine. It's better than this guy who's yeah, this guy doesn't have it. I would love to see what he's up to now.

Am I know what he's doing? Anything? Uh, toast masters are slash toast masters. It's asked, have you ever seen a really bad speech? All of them are. Yeah, we're all about supporting each other and stuff, But have you ever had to sit through a really bad speech? Let me know what happened so I don't accidentally commit these terrible acts. Every word they say is weird.

So this guy goes one guy in my class froze during his speech. He had memorized every word prior and then went up without cue cards by choice. The moment he drew a blank and couldn't recall his next line, he simply stopped talking mid-sentence and stood in silence, sighing and shaking his head until his designated time was up. Those rules for this particular class.

It was a long, awkward three to four minutes. He returned to his desk afterwards, took out his Nintendo DSi and said to himself, video games will make it better. I was making up that last part. Oh, trying to get the laugh from that. I think like, I'm just going to say he's, I'm doing some research on Brian C. Robinson here. He's well, he's doing very well, but it's not in Toastmaster stuff, but he is a member of the Toastmasters from August 1998 until present.

Twenty five plus year member of the Toastmasters first place winner of the speech evaluation, table topics and humorous speech contests for District 46. Yeah. Oh, I mean, the Hunger Games. What the? Yeah. But I will. You know what his job is? You know his job is? Yes. He is the national sales director for Newsweek. Oh, that's the perfect position for a toast for one of these guys.

You know, it really is like I can't like a lot of people that haven't heard of this. All I can say is that in white collar environments, this is very much something that is recommended to you. So you don't fuck up a meeting. Oh, my God. Did you see the article he wrote on on LinkedIn? Yes, I'm going to post this here. I hope it's about woke.

What kind of visits from 2015, it's why Hillary Clinton needs toast masters. Yeah, I love the idea of that because it's it's so your thing, you know, and it becomes so your thing that you just start like you see someone and they see them a little um in one of their speeches and then you're like, oh, well, that's it. They need toast masters and then all their problems would go away, well, that's it. They need toast masters. And then all their problems would go away. It's like, he is saying Hillary needs toast masters watching and hearing Hillary Clinton speak is painful. Where's her passion, her

emotion, her quote fire in the belly. It's no wonder her campaign has dropped 25 plus points in two months and the Donald he's killing it. He's speaking with passion, excitement and conviction. His content may be considered ludicrous by some. However, he's teaching all the candidates a basic lesson and speaking one-on-one. He's kind of right about that. He's kind of gone. That is like a good point. Like it is. He is right about that. He's kind of gone. Yeah, that is like a good point. Like it is. He is right about that. Donald Trump went toast masters on America and he that Hillary did not have. I mean, yeah, I mean, Hillary is a terrible, terrible speaker. No, but I think that's cause

she doesn't have the emotion required. Like, I don't think it's inside of her. He's like legitimately right in that Trump was just like, hey, here's like a really easy thing to remember and a bunch of stupid, like he's 100% correct about that. I found a book he wrote, by the way. Oh, good. Oh, it's called, How to Meet Women on the Subway. Oh, God.

I don't think I should, that one I wouldn't like to read. The national sales director for Newsweek wrote a book called How to Meet Women on the subway. Then you imagine what's going on with him on the subway. He obviously has done it. This next bad speech, this guy goes, I saw one where this guy was going on about angels. Sort of a research project, but not really. The thing is that almost all of his facts were wrong.

Okay. All right. He was talking about angels. You got a lot of historically and religiously. I know a bit about it from the historical angle and I could just, I just could not figure out what was going on. He was definitely a believer, but not in a main denomination sort of way. I just really had to sit there and not critique the content itself.

It wasn't a great speech either, but it was so weird listening to stuff. So way off. So that guy got angels wrong. I saw a guy he went up there to talk about angels and the goddamn he didn't know anything about angels. Yeah, I'm excited about the great angels and what the fuck you're talking about. That's not that's not right at all. Oh, frustrating, you know.

Question time. Let's see. Oh, here you go, Chris or step. And we're going to do stuff for now. Would you kill one person to say five? Yeah. All right. So for me, I would have to say five. Yeah. All right. So for me, I would have to say

it would certainly depend on excuse me, who the people I'm sorry, but I've been drinking. I can't do that. You're fucked. What you know, that's all. The Toastmasters. No, that's the weird thing. They're not drinking at all.

Sorry, but I'm out. I'm out for a liquid lunch You know with the perspective client and you know, I think that's a big part of Toastmasters I would say that it depends on who the people are. Of course. I mean I would kill Would I kill one person what if it was my family member to save five random people? No, but would I kill? one When I kill one? When I kill Hitler. To pack in time, the time machine.

I've lost my thread. What do I do now? This guy's panicking. That's no way to toast mass. Oh, no. I would kill Hitler. OK, I actually did see a guy earlier and I wish I could. I had saved it that said he wouldn't kill Hitler.

He wouldn't change anything so that we could make the same mistakes and learn from them. And I was like, oh, I'm probably I'm probably I was I killed. I think I would also kill Hitler just to be. I'd kill Hitler if I had to change a few things. There are definitely things I would change. Let's see here. Want to add humor to your speech?

Follow this map. Consider your medium audience and purpose to determine how to effectively use humor. This is from the Toastmasters magazine. This is how humor is created. Yeah. And this is really the best way to do it is you want to get a road map. You want to think of the most scientific way possible. This is how you get good, good comedy.

The first line of this. When I first told a good friend that I started doing standup comedy, his response was, but you're not funny in many ways. Humor was not something that came natural to me. I was, and still am introvert introverted computer geek with a degree in computer science and engineering who got pushed into improv and standup comedy while attending university. computer science and engineering who got pushed into improv and stand up comedy while attending university. I was as surprised as anyone when I made people laugh. So I would love to see

this guy's work. I mean, I would honestly almost do anything to see him do it. I would say that as someone who I don't, I'm not going to bring it up and talk about my experiences, but I will just say that for one reason or another, I've been at a lot of stand-up comedy shows, open mics and whatnot. I would say that it's not really that hard to make the good amount of people laugh. Especially in a business meeting.

If there's a big crowd or something, even at a comedy show though, if there's a big crowd or something, even at a comedy show, though, if there's like a big crowd or something, it depends. If you never get huge laughs, then you could just be like, Oh, yeah, I made I got laughs. It felt good. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are good at comedy. No, no. Well, you know, you got to you got to use the map, which is a a a. The question isn't should you use humor? The question is, how do you use it?

Well, how do you effectively use humor in a corporate keynote pathway speech or when you have to say a few words at the holiday party after everybody's been sipping eggnog and singing jingle bells? The key is what I call the humor map. The humor. Stephanie, you do you do humor. You're always trying to be funny on your job. So you should. Yeah, I should listen, actually.

Yeah, it's the easiest way to determine what type of humor to use, regardless of venue, organization or speech topic. It also helps you choose the right humor for different cultures, work contexts and times a day. My math jokes don't go over as well at 8 p.m. when people's coffee at 8 a.m. I said p.m. My math jokes don't go over as well at 8 a.m. when people's coffee has yet to kick in. Once the coffee kicks in though. Well, because it well then they're fully alert, Stephanie. They're smart jokes. Yeah, they're going to laugh about math. Yeah, they're obviously smart.

Why did why did seven? Why was why was nine? Why you know, why was nine? I was nine times nine. Why was why was six? Why was six? Why was six afraid of seven? Because it eight nine.

Because well, how check this out, check this out. Distinguished members of the Toastmasters, how does a mathematician get rid of his constipation? He... ...takes X-Lax. Yeah, I assume it's a sort of laxative. He works it out with a pencil. And then everybody cheers for that?

Oh, he shoves a pencil up his asshole. I mean, that was pretty good. That actually is pretty funny. That is funny. Honestly, that's that's better than I expected. That's more of a poop joke than a math joke. I know. That's a very that's a funny joke. Well, it's very old street joke.

Yeah. But like me, me like not having my coffee and hearing that and being like. Yeah, that was the issue with his butt. I didn't even really recognize it because I haven't had my coffee. I mean, I'm surprised you guys are even bothering to talk to me before I've had it. Well, first is the medium in the map system. The medium is all about the how, how will the message be delivered? Will you be speaking live in a conference room on stage

in a banquet hall or virtually over zoom Microsoft teams are one of the other 20,000 online meeting platforms that exist. That's a joke. Right. There's a lot. And that's a joke right there. Yeah. Yeah. That's free. That joke is free. Yeah. The medium impacts your delivery, exaggerated performance and big movements can be a fun part of speaking when on a large keynote stage, but might feel out of place when pitching a concept in your boss's office. Timing is also a factor in how your message flows.

For example, one of the biggest mistakes people make when they first start using humor. I love that. Once you start utilizing humor, like my nephew is three years old. He uses humor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know probably not He probably hasn't followed the map technique. So well, yeah can't read You maybe shouldn't need to teach them, you know, you give them a nice little speech like I'm gonna give you a table topics question right now Chris Is graffiti a form of art? Well, that's interesting that you speak to me because, of course, my partner has engaged

in doing graffiti art. Excuse me? That's crime. Yeah, it's criminal acts. Yeah, there's lots of things you're letting. You're letting something cloud your opinion of this, though, right? Fair enough. Yeah, I don't like crime.

I'm big anti-crime. I'm talking to Chris. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't like crime. I'm big anti-crime. No, I'm talking to Chris. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm biased on it. But I would say before I even met my partner and the mother of my child, my beautiful child, Charlie, beautiful young man. You get I would say that I've always been a fan of it. And of course, bad graffiti, horrible graffiti, tagging ruins businesses businesses and I don't like that.

But when you see some of this stuff it's incredible, it's beautiful and it can really especially you know stuff that's maybe not that's it's been authorized it can really brighten up a city and you know we there's a lot of it in Vancouver tons of it and it really makes a lot of city blocks a lot more beautiful. So I think this question is great, because if you did ask it in a meeting with like if you did ask it in a meeting, why did you people? Why did you say it like I fucked up?

Oh, I know one of the I didn't say what shop as long as I'm not saying what shop I'm happy. Like you. Why did you you said it in such a specifically wrong way? It was really quite strange. I think I think if I didn't mention it, I think people would jump on me a little bit. Axe. Well, yeah. Well, I think it's a great question to ask a room of people that you are definitely going to get one racist answer to.

And also you are. They're all going to say no. Yeah. These are all these fucking rich old Yacht Club business guys who are like there's not a single one of them who has ever enjoyed a single piece of graffiti, you know? Yeah. Stefan, is it OK for parents to stop in no stopping zones outside schools for short periods? I don't know. You don't even have you even have a kid. I know that's why this is a good this. And you know, I don't believe it is.

If the sign says no stopping, you must simply follow the sign. I think it's important to follow the law. What would you know, dipshit? You may never made a kid. But I know about following the law and following rules. And I think if the sign says that you can't stop there, why would you stop there? Just simply find somewhere nearby and walk to pick up your child. It might be good. It might be a good healthy time for your child to walk back to the car.

Maybe they need it. I think I'm going to go to the Toastmasters local governor and see if I can get Chris removed. He does do a lot of interrupting. Yeah. He does a big no-no. He's taking it serious. Well, it's kind of my thing on the podcast is to do interrupting.

So I did want to, you know, I wanted to make sure to have that carry over into the toast master because we do have this. How do you deal with toxic members? Question to all here. How have you dealt with toxic members? Suck it up. Suck it up. Buttercup. Yeah. Or you can do we had a very experienced toast master join the club and then claim that rules like time

limits didn't apply to him because he was so experienced. Oh, well, maybe it didn't apply to him. I would say seniority needs to matter in these situations. Suck it up. You're getting kicked out of our club. Suck it up, buttercup. Deal with it. I will say I went to a wedding once where my friend's dad gave a speech and it was like totally off the cuff and it was like

35 minutes long And it was so insane because everyone's just like looking at each other like is this are you fucking kidding this still going it was Crazy someone's got to go up and grab that someone's got it like where's the master of ceremonies in that it? Yes, you know you got to pop in there That's part of your job to grab that microphone away at around the 50. They lost control. They lost control.

Yeah. I still love this old guy because he refused evaluation too, because in his opinion, no one was experienced enough to teach him anything. As VP- Why is he out of the class then? Yeah.

Teach other people. Oh yeah. The person finally persuaded him that since everyone in the club looked up to him so much, he should he had to set a good example for us all that helped. Although once he realized we didn't all look up to him so much, he kind of faded away. This is talking to him like a child, like an actual child, you know, like, no, the reason why is because everyone loves you. You know, they look up to you so much.

So you got to set a good example, you know, like that's again, or you'd say like to your nephew's four or five years old. So this was also an interesting guy. Um, he goes, we're, we are a communication organization. First step is talk to them, elevate to multiple officers, pulling them aside or meeting them privately and pointing out that the member doesn't seem to enjoy attending and is impacting the entire club. If that's ineffective, then vote them out. It's a club issue.

It must be handled by the club. Those of you who left toast masters because of others, that shame on you. You joined it for you. Don't let someone force you out. And now I love this. I, I don't know why, but this killed me. A specific example that worked and wasn't as direct, struggling club with one toxic burned out overbearing member that made every meeting unpleasant. He called a meeting to disband the club. Didn't want to do that as the new area governor. I also offered to help. We told the member you've been trying so hard. Let us step up and do all the work. Take a break. We requested

and got a club coach, got the help of the division governor and concentrated on what are we talking about here? Division governor. What's going on here? This is a fucking tree. This is toast masters. Yeah. Like this is all part of the toast masters organization. They have all of these officers. Yes. What's important. The toxic member who was never allowed to take any role drifted away pretty quickly. We may have been too positive and upbeat for him. The club has some slow months, but it has stayed successful since then. The toxic member will visit every few years and see how positive, fun, and thriving we are and disappear again.

I'm looking at the Toastmasters ranks. There's president, vice president of education, vice president of membership, vice president of public relations sergeant at arms That's he'll kill you if you fuck up. Yeah treasurer and secretary. There's a really a sergeant at arms That's what it says here on toast masters org. Yeah. Yeah, so you might wonder You might wonder what would happen if there was an angry exchange at a Toastmasters meeting. Here's an example of one. I've always understood that you can talk about the deadly three, sex, politics, and religion,

in Toastmasters. However, you also have to know your audience before giving a speech about such topics. The woman being offended by the example given over Dumpf don't like him and won't say his real name in my opinion. Whoa. That's disrespectful. Okay. Wow.

Dump. No, the dotard himself. Remember that when they were saying, when they were saying dotard? And we know why they were saying it, by the way. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Oh, now I can say that word, but it's like, oh, to say. Yeah. So, you know, don't talk about dump in here.

I got one more question here before we get out of here. Oh, we got two more. So we're going gonna do a question, but I got this from Quora Okay, and it's a perfect guy's question Can I use the word orgasm in a Toastmasters speech? Your audience you have to know your audience I mean Brian C Robinson's coming pretty close and his I feel like he's going to yeah He's talking about being sexy and being hot. So I love this guy. Among the many words I have used, the following words in my Toastmaster speeches,

some of them are sex, fuck, penis and porn. Wow. I want to know why he said them. Very I want to know why he said penis. Now you may be shocked and surprised. How did I use these words? Is it an incident? Shouldn't you respect the audience? The name of the game is how the speaker manages to deliver his message and say whatever he has to say

in a creative and convincing manner. It takes experience, maturity, tact, and creativity to communicate something indecent in a rather decent manner. I personally do not see any problem in using a word. It all comes down to how you are going to use it. Like they say, it's not what you say. It's how you say it that matters. So you can't say fuck or piss. There'd be some more. There'd be some words I wouldn't say.

Well, I'm not me. I don't use any word. I don't care. Yeah, personally, I would steer clear of certain words in my toast Yeah, you gotta stick up to them. You gotta stick up to them, you know woke Bob So if you're not comfortable using the word orgasm on stage use a different approach This was told to me by a friend and I found it very interesting So here's the example instead of saying fuck in a formal proceeding you could say I'm feeling like two people

having intercourse usually expressed in a teenager slang. What? That's a good replacement for the word fuck. I'm feeling like fuck though. Is that what I'm confused about? I don't think I've ever heard that said to that. Like shit is the way that's the one they meant. Oh, no, that no, no, he's not.

Is it in your course? Yeah. He said enter. Finally, we got one more table topic question for each of you. We'll go Chris first. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. The grass is greener on the other side. Do you agree? Well, Brian, and thank you so much. You can talk into the audience. You're not talking to me.

No, actually, I'm they talk to the judge. They talk to the guy. That's exactly what I was doing. I was talking. They always do. All of the guys we've seen so far have said like to our esteemed toast master's judge or like they call him something else. So that's what I was trying to do. What are you doing? Is he, he's huffing something? Nasal spray. I'm very addicted to it. Okay. So the judge is huffing nasal spray. Yeah, I do appreciate you posing this question to me. I of course have a lot of background in this type of positivity. I have always adhered to a positive nature in my life and I do want to bring it back to my birth. Let's start at the beginning

if we could please. My mother and father met. well, let's get back further back, actually. My father was born in Saskatchewan, Canada, Crystal City, outside of Regina. And he grew up in sort of a, please somebody help me here. Thank you. Thank you. Great. And so I would have to I would have to tend to agree on that, that the grass is always greener on the other side, as far as I'm concerned. And it's always greener and I'm always smoking it. Nice little weed in there.

I mean, get fired. They're going to drug test you. But, Stefan, what do you think are the most important reasons why travel is good for you? Travel is not only good for the body, but the mind and even the soul itself. Brian and the Toastmasters audience, I believe travel is good for you physically because you're walking and exercising and you're getting lots of fresh air. But you're also maybe going to see something that changes your mind and changes your opinion about something and you're experiencing other cultures.

And I believe that's very important to become a more well-rounded individual. I can smell your balls, smell like salt and vinegar chips. That's a problem I've been having for years and I would appreciate if we move on from my nuts. I'm going to the I'm going to the sergeant at arms about Chris. This is too much. Oh, oh, that's interesting. Yes. Why don't you go check the the thing to see who that sergeant of arms is? Cock my gun.

Oh, that's not this. Now we're going to have to violently overthrow the Toastmasters government. Yeah, that's why you need a sergeant of arms, obviously, to protect the president if there is any sort of a revolt against him. I'm going to keep this page. I'm going to put it in the guys plus document so we can ask more questions. I love these here.

Here's one that I thought was great. That we were ending, but we are. Why does toast always fall buttered side down? Oh, my God. I don't know that it does. I don't know that it does. But I think that that more speaks to just kind of a situation where you feel like you want one outcome and the other outcome ends up

being the case, but isn't that the way the brain works at the end of the days? It's always searching for those moments where there's negativity and it can protect you. So it's not remembering the times when the toast landed on the correct side. It's remembering the times when things went wrong. And I think I'm not finished yet. I'm not done yet. Well, we interrupt the, you ran out of time.

You're allowed back in the club though. Thank you. You're welcome. Hey, you know, we're all here to learn to communicate. And that's what we learned a lot today. I feel like, honestly, I feel all here to learn to communicate and that mean we learned a lot today. I feel like honestly I feel I'm not gonna utilize any of the Knowledge or information but we did learn a lot and I am pretty fascinated at

At like how intricate this seems to be I am sort of when I when I discovered it's a yacht club kind of thing. I became Less interested in it. Yeah, it's all it discovered it's a yacht club kind of thing, I became less interested in it. Yeah, it's all it's it's business, guys. The the only person I know that's done it is is like working their way up sort of the corporate ladder and like. So, you know, if I went to one of the meetings and got some audio before, could we like put it at the end of the episode?

I mean, we could. I'm not going to promise it, but if it shows up now for you guys, when you're listening, it's because I went to a meeting to. There's lots of locations, by the way. It's not just the one. Would you give us? Oh, of course, I would get up and give a speech. I think you got to pay dues before you can give a speech.

I'll tell you that. Yeah, I think you can go and visit. You're welcome anytime to visit it. But there is a one there is a person. I know I said we're going to end it. But there is a person that asked what one of the drawbacks are on Quora. And the answer that comes is interesting, because it's like, I think that's like, it says, what are some downsides and limitations of the Toastmasters approach to learn public speaking and Jan Perry is interesting because it's like I think that's like it says what are some downsides and limitations of the Toastmasters approach to learn public speaking and Jan Perry replied and said they asked for money after two visits and are religious with getting the fees whatever amount it is they expect you to

use the website I hate computers to prepare your speech they expect you to participate and join all meetings and offer to perform a role in the club as soon as you're able. After a while, they can get quite bossy. And if someone hates you, you become a target. Apart from that, the clubs are perfect for learning to speak in public. So she's calling it a fucking enemy. He was trying to destroy her conversation.

We will see you next week, Stefan. You're going to be on again soon. That's right. And John, I'm quite soon. Yeah, I'm excited for that. I mean, that's different. That's what John, though, you know, so it's that's blocked party. That's not Stefan.

Yeah, because we got a whole thing going on that the guys and then, you know, October 11th and well, yeah, October 11th and 12th in Vancouver. That is when the live show will be. And guess what? Tickets are certainly on sale now when you're listening to this. But we can't give you the information because we can't be certain that they'll be on sale. You can't be 100 percent sure, but they should. But they'll be on sale eventually.

Everybody get a lot of fun. It's going to be great. It's going to be so fun. fun. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be so fun. I'm gonna be in Canada. Dan's gonna get me some Xanax so I don't have to cross any, I don't have to go to any weird places. Yeah, well, we'll talk. Yeah, whatever. I mean, who knows?

It'd be so funny if you cross into the US to get Xanax. Yeah. Well, that's the only border. Well, Stefan, tell people where to find you. Well, you mentioned Block Party. That's my podcast with John Cullen. And I also have a hockey podcast called I Hate This Team with Bertovo, who I believe is a previous guest. Yeah, he talked about Dave Navarro.

That's right. Yeah. And I stream on Twitch on the go off Kings four nights a week Monday to Thursday with Jesse for our A very recent guest of the show. I believe as well when he comes on all the time. Yeah Yeah, he was on the Renaissance fair guys episode and I introduced people to Christoph the insult her and He's a lot like Brian C. Robinson really. We will see you next week. I don't know what the show is going to be, but you know, go to Patreon.com slash murder X Brian and twitch.tv slash murder X Brian, where we have now been designated an adults only Twitch page because dirty.

We got too horny on stream the other night and people started getting the thing that they had to click through to give permission or whatever in the middle of the stream in the middle of the stream. And that's never happened to us. And that's surprising to me. We got some really question. We had RK and Katie on and they were very strange, bad vibes. They own a swingers club and we'll see you all next week. Good bye.

Bye bye.