Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 90 - Lottery Guys with Tom Sexton

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

About a month ago my wife asked me if we had ever considered doing a an episode about lottery guys and I looked at my big list and they weren't there. I loved the idea so much that we did it. What do ...you tell your friends and family when you win? How do you win scratch offs? Why is Chris making fun of me again?  Tom is our dear friend and he is at https://x.com/thetrillbillies and Trillbillies and at https://www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast twitter.com/murderxbryan and  https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, no time for a funny intro. Let's get right into it. The first ever live guys show in Vancouver was a big success People wore shirts and brought signs and tarps and we're excited about doing more as soon as I can get a visa We'll be hitting some American cities But unfortunately if you missed the first ever guys live show you will not be able to I'm just kidding We put it up on the patreon. It's live now be able to, I'm just kidding, we put it up on the Patreon, it's live now, patreon.com slash guys podcast, I think, I don't know the URL. But go over and check it out, the audio's up, the video will be up in November, it was a lot of fun, and go see what I mean. Don't take my fucking word for it, go listen for yourself. Sorry, bye.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Greetings sweepstakes winners. Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I'm Brian and Chris is here here Chris. Do you play lottery? Isn't it sweepstakes? I Don't know I don't know I thought it was yeah, I think it's you said sweepstake. Oh whatever Are you gaslighting him into flubs now? I just I think I don't know is it I could be wrong to. I thought I even know why I said it like sweepstakes winner because we're doing lottery guys. Yeah, it was not a great intro all around. You didn't have a thing for me either. You had nothing to say for me.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I was going to call you a loser, but that's so mean. Yeah, it has other like it doesn't really come across as a thing from the lottery I got Chris here a big loser Yeah, that hurts Those little mean spirited Yeah, I understand why you didn't do that now. Yeah, no, I do not answer your question I don't I've never been a lottery player. I've never Yes, Brian they have them in Canada.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And we have, of course, Tom Sexton. You heard him. Hey, Tom. Even in sports fans. So you played a lottery, Tom? I used to. I used to be. Yeah, I heard the other kind of gambling. Well, I spent my 16th birthday playing scratch offs and in a gas station. So how do you do?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Not not well. Yeah, we just kept we just got really drunk. Just kept playing on just kept getting it. Did any like, do you remember what your biggest like you have any moments? You know where it was like, oh shit, we hit a 50. Yeah. I think there was a couple of those in that. Of course you have to understand.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We played for hours. Yeah. The rule seems to be you can expect it. And this is a bad rule and I'm not, this is not me. Okay. Giving this rule. This is lottery guys that I've been reading for two days now. The rule seems to be you can expect 50% of your money back,
Starting point is 00:03:10 but I actually probably would lean. Yeah. If you buy scratch offs, you buy a lot of them and they're $5 or above, not the $1 one. You never buy the $1 scratch offs, but if you buy $5 and above and you buy him in a large amount, then you can expect 50% back. How large of an amount at that point? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Why don't you just do other gambling? Because you like scratching off tickets, dude. Yeah. And there's these guys. I'm gonna find this one guy here real quick. This is the most degenerate of any of the guys in this lottery episode. And we can just start with him right away.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm scrolling through. Oh, I used to play, you know, I used to play Keno. OK. Yeah. Like my friend and I would sit there. We would smoke, you know, I'd be stoned. We'd smoke cigarettes at an outdoor little corner store or whatever that had Keno and we'd just sit outside and play some Keno. That's probably my closest to gambling. Tom, you guys have that there obviously, right? Yeah, I'm a Keno guy from way back.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Okay, okay. You got any big numbers that you used to? I have never had much success at it. It wasn't much about the winning in Kino. I feel like it was really you're in it for the love of the game. You know, it's a real time waster of a really. I once walked into so in Ohio, we don't have it's probably like this down there too. Tom, we don't have that kind of culture like the East Coast has where people hang out at gas stations and shit and eat food from gas stations like Wawa and sheets.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's just not the type of thing you do in Ohio. I never heard of somebody more of an in and out type deal. Yeah. Yes. And there were a few times I went to this gas station, there would be like five guys sitting in a booth. Playing. You got to be the gas station had a five guys? You wish. No, it had regular,
Starting point is 00:05:14 but they were playing Kino. And I was just like, that's such a weird place to be. The casino is a 15-minute drive away from here. Now, you don't you don't understand it. Keno is different. You go to the casino. You could lose a lot of money. You just stick around and play a little bit of Keno.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You just waste a bunch of time sitting there with your buddies shooting the shit. So it's a whole different game. Definitely. So Ohio has these machines. They put in different bars that are, uh, instant win gains. It is really probably the bottom level of gambling. I don't know if you've seen video poker, but, uh, what,
Starting point is 00:05:56 whatever you think is the bottom level of gambling, I assure you, there is another, there are new debts to, uh, to plunge to. Well, I'm kind of antisocial when I go out to bars because I hate bars, but sometimes I'll go with my wife when she wants to go to a bar or something like that. And I went with her and our friend, Erica, we went to the bar. They were playing pool, by the way, terrible pool. They were so bad. And then they're like, do you want to play?
Starting point is 00:06:23 And I was like, I fucking kill you. Who are you talking about? Your wife and her and your friend. Yeah. Oh Why them at pool, but I mean, maybe they're just having fun. I don't know that they're come are they competitive No, not really they were just trying to have fun But what if I did it and then they I destroy it they look stupid and I just didn't do it So what I did was what did you say to them when they asked if you wanted to play. You don't want to play me I'm too good.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So anyway. Oh. Oh. I am. I grew up in a pool hall man. So just play, just play man. I can fucking slay that. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Like then do it. You showcase your talent to your wife and friend. You want me to bring my arsenal on a date? Is that what you're talking about? Just use the house cue. I don't have a pool. I do not. Now, Brian brings the one he screws together.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You know what I mean? I used to have one of those. I grew up with a pool table in my house. I had an, like, and I didn't have a big house. I lived in like a town house, but we had a pool table instead of a dining room table. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we were so into,
Starting point is 00:07:28 my brother and I were really into it. We had a ping pong table at my dad's place in the garage and then a pool table at my mom's, which we lived primarily. So we were pretty good and each of us had a queue, you know, that we would, so I definitely went to a couple of pool halls when I was younger and brought my arsenal there. I've probably spent more time in pool halls than any other facility
Starting point is 00:07:50 that I've ever been to in my life. My grandpa, I don't like to roll out my billiards bona fides. My grandfather, Ralph Sexton, was a pro, probably most famous for beating Minnesota Fats. What? Your grandfather beat Minnesota Fats. And what? Minnesota Fats. Well, what about eight ball nine balls? Not.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I'm really good at nine ball. That's my game, too. Oh, my goodness. So are you really good at at pool? Well, I'm a student of Greg Collins, the master here. But yeah, I'm pretty. I'm decent. Wait a second. You're you're so you like are really good.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You're serious about. So I want to say this right now. Both of you are probably better at pool than I am. Yeah, I was like being a guy that was like, oh, yeah, you won't know this about me, but I'm really great at pool. But you guys are both like levels above me. I'm levels above you. And then sounds like Tom is levels above me.
Starting point is 00:08:44 above me. I'm levels above you. And then sounds like Tom is levels above me. So what I did at this bar was they had this lotto machine that prints out. It's basically an instant win game. You see the machine. It's got a touch screen. You touch a button or basically a receipt comes out. It's like you won or receipt comes out and like you lost. That's all it is. It's not like it's not like slot it's kind of like slot machine there's nothing though it's just you're lit you literally put your money in and then a paper comes out and tells you if you want her lost well it'll be wrapped
Starting point is 00:09:17 up in some like King's Mountain or something like that. No, but like you've lost on the way to the summit and zero dollars. It's kind of fun. Sure. But I won 90 bucks. Wow. Wow. This is the shit. I love this machine.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Two weeks later, going to a different bar, I go stand up to the machine. I'm like, I'm going to grab $90 real quick. I put in like $60 and I lost all of it in minutes. It took no time at all to lose it because I was doing $10 bets that I was buying to $10. You were doing like high, like high level bets on the receipt game. $10. But that's, oh yeah. But that's pretty, what, what was the, is that just a normal bet?
Starting point is 00:10:05 I was I would think you know you usually do a dollar dollar Yeah, but I was like if you put the rule seems to be to all lottery people which I believe I might I Thought I was but I don't think I am me and Katie bike scratch offs all the time We go the grocery store by $50 worth the scratch offs and how come? grocery store by $50 worth of scratch offs. And how come? They want you brothers. It's like I don't have my my daughters in college. That's why what else are we supposed to know?
Starting point is 00:10:33 We used to buy them for the family time. We would all sit at the table together and scratch off lottery tickets. Were you one of those families that like a Christmas time? You like an uncle. I do like a like a some lottery tickets and like a case now or something like that. My brother does that. My brother buys everybody a scratch off. We would get scratch off to always at Christmas in the stockings.
Starting point is 00:10:53 There would always be a couple of scratch. So that's the only time I would do scratch off. So it was around Christmas. I think maybe I won one hundred one time and that was kind of cool. But you win 50 bucks every now. We win money. I mean, I think one time, I mean in my entire life. I got them every year and I think one time I won $100 and other than that, I think it was just disappointment all the way. I
Starting point is 00:11:12 think you lose most of the time when you play because if it's only $1 tickets, of course you lose most of the time. If you buy a $10 ticket, you have a chance of winning a prize. So here's a lemon drop. So I'm on Lotto post is what it's called. And it is the lottery forum of all lottery forums. Okay. I'm so excited for this. Lemon dropping. I think we've ever done so far. Lemon drop asks morning all,
Starting point is 00:11:42 does anyone else only scratch off the barcode to scan on the California lottery app or in the store? I used to scratch off all the symbols, but now the only the barcode, it's just it just me or am I getting lazy? Is it is it? Oh, so they're not even doing it for the for the thrill of the scratch. They're just straight up trying to get rich. Yeah, they're scratching the fucking thing and scanning it There's better ways to do it. There's better ways to do it that like involve no work
Starting point is 00:12:12 There's even better ways to do it, you know Have you watched a horse race, I mean like there's there's more fun ways to do that Yeah, there's exactly not even better necessarily. Tom, good point. Just more fun ways to do it. If you're going to, you know, why are you not? Why are you just giving your money away to the scratch? Who runs the scratch off companies? Is it the government?
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's the state. It's like the law, the same as the lottery. OK, we have socialism in the lottery. That's right. Yeah. And when we buy stuff, that goes to the schools, of course, I think. Although the schools are always broke. So and a lot of people buy lottery tickets. I do know that.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That's because me and Chris have been buying the one dollar tickets. We've been only doing the one dollars and I I don't know what I've been thinking. What about two dollars? And I've been doing you don't want to do that either. Five or above. There's a whole book about it. I'm going to read reviews of it later. Um, Cape scratcher says, uh, hi lemon D it's very nice way to say it. Nothing against just doing the barcode, but for a few reasons, I play the entire ticket for one. I find it entertaining. Secondly,
Starting point is 00:13:22 the state I'm in Florida publishes combinations of all potential wins for each game. And I like the mental exercise size of matches, a tickets winning spots with such info thirdly, and to a lesser degree on sites such as this one, when posting a pick of a nice win, I just prefer the barcode to be intact. So, so she's kind of treating it like Sudoku. Like it's like keeping her from staving off Alzheimer's. Yeah. And fun to lose.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Not a good name for a lot of guys, but kind of funny. I think it's ironic and you know, he goes, so if you get a big win, are you just going to cash it in and you're going to scratch off to find out how you got the win? That's a good question. I believe she didn't answer it or lemon D didn't answer it because I used to only because I was in a time crunch and playing just to get a win and stop. I love that. I learned from Cape to make sure you double check before tossing them.
Starting point is 00:14:19 There's a possibility of tossing a winner, especially scanning multiple and at a rushed pace. Now I scratch the game more to waste time and buying a lot less these days. If you can hit a symbol early, you get a feeling is there more to win from the ticket and you can leave it for another day while keeping that good mood and vibe of a big win you already know. So that's so. I mean, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:14:44 This is gambling addiction as well. But in a way, I think it's gambling addiction in a way that you don't get accused of gambling addiction. Yeah. And it's also like, I guess, depending on how much you're spending on them. But like you're saying, they're spending on the five and $10 tickets and buying amounts of them because that's what those books are telling them. So like, they're not just spending small.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He's like, oh, they're doing some scratch and lands. And it's like they're buying like a thousand dollars worth of for real. That is not bullshit because they buy the roll. They go in and they buy the whole roll of the tickets that are there. Let me ask you a question. What is qualitatively different of that approach than like buying like a 1997 like an open box like, you know, Fleer Ultra or something? It's the exact thing.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's it depends, I guess. I guess they have like they have like, you know, players associated with them and they maybe watch them play. Yeah, I guess maybe like, you know, players associated with them and they maybe watch them play. Yeah, I guess maybe like, you know, there's I know someone who's collected sports cards like, you know, when I was younger, there was like players that I loved and they became my favorite player. And I just like the idea of being able to find one of their cards was like so special to me and I didn't really care about.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But yeah, there are people who you're right, you know, the ones who are just buying it and trying to find the ones that are worth a lot of money. And then, you know, there's so many people who are like that. And so I think that in that case, it's the exact same. I'm connecting the dots here. It's like, like, like me trying to find like, you know, uh, refractors when I was like eight years old, virtually set the tone for me to become a degenerate gambler later in life.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And in a way, in a matter of speaking. Yeah. So here's an interesting thing that all lottery guys run into. This is an issue. Now, first of all, they all gather on these message boards. I haven't seen one person win over $500. So I don't want to. I mean, listen, $500 is a good
Starting point is 00:16:45 amount of fucking money. I'm not saying but you're whatever you're doing, you're doing wrong because you're not winning. You know what I mean? Um but here's something that they all talk about constantly. This comes up often. This is from our lottery and it says realistically, this is from odd callig calligrapher 8132 goesistically, how would you keep a win secret? If you won the lottery, how would you keep a secret even from your family?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Surely someone would notice something is up now. It's got problems as family. Everybody does. You're supposed to hide it from your family. You start a blind trust. What? I don't need I wouldn't need to hide it. I wouldn't need to hide it from your family. You start a blind trust. What? I don't need. I wouldn't need to hide it.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I wouldn't need to hide it from my family. I know you do. You can't tell anybody. But my family's all they wouldn't try to get the money from me or anything. Chris, there's several many such cautionary tales of people that flew a little too close to the Sun with letting it be known.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But my family and I are quite close. In fact, I would want to share some of the money with them. I would want to share it with all of my family. You know what I mean? I would want it to be the family's money. Then you are not a lottery guy. You are so far away from being a lottery guy. You have every threat. There is a thread basically every two or three days about this. This guy, Tommy got a job says the most important thing is to not make a huge change to your life out
Starting point is 00:18:10 of the blue. I would wait a while before I move out. Tell my parents I'm going to the casino so I can hit it big and then use that as my reason to give them some money. Move out to a nice one bedroom in a safe neighborhood that's not too rich that will raise eyebrows from the fam and make sure when I do cash in, I hire a financial advisor and create an LLC to keep myself anonymous. Thought about it a lot. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 That is so sad to me. Of course it is. Of course. It's like dreaming of this life where they're rich and the way to get it is through the lottery or whatever, because it's such a horrible fucking place for so many people and they feel helpless and like unable to earn money, you know, with their labor and get to the amount of money that they want. And they're told they should have.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So this is the kind of only hope they have. You make fifty five million dollars and you want to hide it from your fucking friends and family because listen, these guys have in their mind that when the person comes and claims the lottery ticket, that's big news to everybody in the world. Like that. Everybody's going to see it. And people from your high school are good.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Isn't it on the news here? It is on the news here on TV. It's not on the news. First of all, it's on TV as a special TV show here. Nobody watches it. Nobody cares. But you don't think that they would that's a TV show that might get shared around like, hey, like one person watches
Starting point is 00:19:37 it and is like, hey, your fucking brother, $155 million. That's why you get a blind trust and also get some NDAs printed up. This guy goes, I thought if it was above a certain amount, you have to have a financial advisor. That's what someone told me anyways. And then this guy named I write films says I'm changing my lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'll just tell the family. I sold a script to HBO. You don't have to have a financial advisor. Just to be clear, I don't think there's any rules that say no matter how much money you have that you have to have a financial advisor, just to be clear. I don't think there's any rules that say no matter how much money you have, that you have to have a financial. Maybe I'm wrong as a poor person who doesn't have tons of money, but I feel like you're allowed to just have your money, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah. Charles Schwab told him that. It's actually the law that you have to have a financial advisor. It's actually the law you got to give me 15% to meet. And these guys are really sad. They're sad because they're dreaming of this life or whatever and trying to hit a big through the lottery. But they also, yeah, they're also very selfish and that they don't.
Starting point is 00:20:37 They don't want to share it with anybody. They're trying to keep it away from the people, which again, I'm not. That's really crazy, right? Yes. Yeah. This guy, I see sir 84 14 says going to the lottery place to collect my winnings, getting on the next train out of town for good and never coming back. So that is these people. I mean, I guess some people don't get along with their, I mean, I don't, but I would still like, you know what I mean? So how much think about the way Brian talks about his family, you still wouldn't just leave and not tell them. And you would have a reason to maybe, you know, who knows, but you would add on a cruise, maybe you'd take them on the sickest fucking cruise. You
Starting point is 00:21:20 could buy them a lifetime pass, like, you know, just as I do. Yeah, that's that would keep him happy for sure. Let's go on the icon of the seas. You and your dad do that, like seven year long cruise where they take you all around the world, you know, for like half a million. I'd rather be thrown overboard for more than like to say bye to just make their friends. Yeah. Brian is not going on the cruise with his dad.
Starting point is 00:21:47 He was in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to go on a fucking cruise. Unfortunately, I ill funny 5052 says, unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to hide it because my state announces winners publicly. However, if it was an option, I would do things discreetly and tell them I invested in stocks and that's how I came up with a lot of money. But why they know you have a lot of money. Why don't you tell them you want to fucking launder? You want them to think you earned it? Is that the idea? Is that the kind of, they're embarrassed
Starting point is 00:22:15 that they didn't earn it? Like who cares? Sablay fan says, you'd be surprised at how many secrets I do keep my constant chatter is a smoke screen and my need to protect myself is much stronger than my desire for attention. Though it does compete with my altruistic side that might out me if I'm not careful and have a believable story at already imagine this guy get catches you at a party and gets you into a fucking corner buddy.. It's over for you, man. And now Paul's King does give the answer that you see most often open an investment account with a holdings company, not a bank, then request a monthly payment into your bank
Starting point is 00:22:58 account of about your salary amount to ensure it's double what you get, then complete your will, etc. Then just say you got to raise. That's why I play lotto and try to follow algorithms and such. Hmm. And this guy says easy. Don't change your lifestyle and don't tell anyone. Just don't do anything. Don't use your money at all. Just fucking keep living and don't use your money and just like,
Starting point is 00:23:23 don't even fucking reap the benefits at all of winning the lottery. Here's a good one. Don't change anything. Figure out a story and fake making a much smaller amount of money that explains the future changes. Now, when I splurge a little bit, no one has questions. Think faking having a successful business, investing in Bitcoin, selling an invention, winning a smaller lottery. Oh my god, just creating these like elaborate lies and invention, an invention. They're gonna be like, you think someone's just gonna be like, oh cool, no, they're gonna be like, what did you invent? Yeah. What's the show called that you sold HBO and why is your name not in the credits?
Starting point is 00:24:06 You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know it. I sold the pitch. They just never made it, but I still made my money. They still sent me $20 million. But then because that's what you get paid when you sell a show. That's how it is in Hollywood. They barely even fucking put your name on the credits. They just give you money. Me telling people I won one million going to be a lot simpler and limited than winning 500 million. So he's kind of like, I'll tell people I have a million bucks, not 500 million bucks. But it's
Starting point is 00:24:37 like money doesn't mean anything when you have $500 million. You know what I mean? Like it means zero. You could give so much of it away and you would never spend it in your life. That's what I don't get. Keto brain says, uh, I don't talk with most of my family. So if it was me, I'd give an excuse. So if it wasn't give me an excuse to cut ties with the remaining members. This is like, like all these people are so like how do I put this? It's like they're just like creating all these hypotheticals in their in their head about this dream life they would live and it's all mediated through lottery and they have to. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:25:26 We did the mafia guys episode recently with Dan O'Sullivan. People really liked it. But there was a guy in the mafia subreddit who said, you know, who's the real hardcore person, the working man. And it was just this like really funny guy acting like the dad from the mafia movie that has a son to get into it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Like, why are you cosplaying that character in the mafia movie? It's like your dream is to win the lottery and then like get a one bedroom apartment in a nice part of town, but not too nice and not tell anybody and then jump on the first train out. Like that's your dream. That's what you would do with $500 million. It's such small thinking, I guess. And it is all just mediated through the lottery. This guy goes higher a law firm to redeem the winnings into a trust rather than your personal name. Also, a trust doesn't have to be set up under your name. It can literally be anything.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Example, the Pickaboo revocable trust. Have a contract ready to cover costs like price agreed upon, have both sides signed NDAs, et cetera. Now whatever silly things you wanna do after that will reveal your secret is your own problem. Like buying 15 room mansion, a 24 foot boat,
Starting point is 00:26:46 helicopter and all that baller stuff, that's what I would do. I- You would buy the baller stuff? I would, I would not hide it. Hmm. And I would just be rich. I would be so, I gotta tell you, I in my mind-
Starting point is 00:27:02 Would you give any of it away? Do you think? Yeah, yeah, I'd be handing it out. But I'm saying that like just in just like just handing it out to anybody. Or would you sort of? Brown, would you make me and Chris millionaires? I would. I would definitely make you guys millionaires. I would love to make you guys millionaires. In fact, if you guys want to keep hanging out with me, you have to be.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So I would. I would. I mean, yeah. I mean, if you become soup, I don't know how. I don't know what the podcast would turn into. If you would turn off, I would give you a bunch of money and then I would have a bunch of money. And then I would hide in Hawaii. You say you wouldn't do the podcast if you had a bunch of money. Actually come on, man. But I don't want to say I would do the podcast if I won the lottery.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It feels so uncool. You know what I mean? Well, but listen, what would you... So you would buy like a big mansion and stuff? Oh, God. Well, maybe not a mansion. The travel would be the insane thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I think I would buy land It would be private jet all day every day going all caught like what? Yeah, I would go to all kinds of places wherever. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay I guess so but you'd be like on a private jet just flying around all the time Yeah, like what be like, oh, let's go to like I always wanted to be the rich guy That's like let's go to lunch in Paris the fucking the fucking quit the Quinn be playing tracker on Twitter Even Columbus, Ohio Yeah, are you can you imagine on a you know a
Starting point is 00:28:41 little kid from Ohio named Quiber Oh on a, you know, a little kid from Ohio named Quiber. Don't say that. They show. Oh, yeah, it's got into the main show. Folks, Brian, main Quiber, Brian's name. That's Brian. His his whole life he was referred to as Quiber until like late on. As many people still only know him as Kweeber. He revealed
Starting point is 00:29:05 that on the bonus episode. They only know me as that, but they know me as that. Like they call him Kweeber. They call him like, Hey Kweeber, what's up? You know? Right. How long is like, how, when's the last time you were called Kweeber by a path? Oh, it would have had to been like 2004. Cause I don't hang out with any of those people anymore. But that's who the people. That's into his adult life. That's not just to be clear.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That was when I started saying you need to call me Brian was when Gwen was born. I was like, you can't, you got to call me. I'm a dad. I can't be Quiber. I really, really ribbed him about Quiber on the bonus episode. That's why you guys got, I'm not trying to be a salesperson here, but that is why you got to have to sign up for the Patreon because Brian feels so damn comfortable over there. He's always like, oh yeah, nobody's really listening to this compared to the main episode.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I could let my hair down. Yeah. He says the most ridiculous shit over there. And sometimes he just gets so horny on the episode. I don't get horny on there. So anyway on lotto On that forum I was on there is a section called mystical and what it is is you you you let them know your dream and They tell you what number to play Based on your dream. So that's helpful. That's helpful. That's helpful
Starting point is 00:30:24 This guy is that kind of like astrology meets degenerate gambling. Yes, you're not going to you. Listen, you guys aren't going to believe this stuff. It's crazy. It we're just going to sprinkle them throughout the show. Here's the first one dream of turtle a video of a turtle wearing a crown being showered with gold coins and diamonds just came through my YouTube feed This is a manifesting money type of it
Starting point is 00:30:48 So I'm playing it and watching it because I dreamed of a turtle last night Seeing this vid in my feed made me remember the dream Otherwise, I probably would have not remembered pretty cool things like that can happen I think since I play numbers all the time. I'm curious what numbers might be associated with quote turtle all the time. I'm curious what numbers might be associated with quote turtle. So I'm doing this. Yeah, you've been well, I have to show you guys because I can't just read it on the show, but I promise this is what all of the replies look like. Oh my God. The posts even look like batting totes. Yeah, it says 888-888-48080. So a lot of H. You can say looks like a turtle. I don't think so because here we're getting let's get to a
Starting point is 00:31:33 second one because I think the second one will really show you the type of thing this one's titled poisoned. I dreamed I was poisoned. Does anyone have a number? I was also telling a child to dial 911. Okay. How about nine? No, not one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got to think deeper than that, Tom. Hang on. One, one, nine.
Starting point is 00:31:55 What? One, nine, one. That might be it. Nine, nine, one. I don't know. Nine, nine, nine, nine, isn't it? Brock Lee says you should play the numbers of your local poison control phone number. She says good idea.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So that's what they're going to listen. I do know a woman named Nana Fields that hit the lottery twice. Like not like crazy ridiculous money, but like she won like six figures like twice. What's her name? Nana Fields. She's dead now. She was like Nana. You know, she was Nana Phil. She's dead now. She was named like Nana. She was old when I was-
Starting point is 00:32:27 Rest in peace, Nana. Nana was her name? Like Nana, the number nine? N-I-N-A, like Nina, but pronounced Nana. Wow. Was she some sort of clairvoyant? Well, she took a similar approach. What she would do was she would take just a collection of like
Starting point is 00:32:46 friends, birthdays and stuff. And this is a true story. She gave my mom, like helped my mom come up with some winning numbers one time. And my mom said, if she would have picked my uncle, my mom hit it for like a little bit, she just did like a little office pull thing. They won like 500 bucks or something like that. Cause they got like a certain amount of the numbers. And if the rumor has it, I never vetted this claim from them,
Starting point is 00:33:08 but if they would have went with my uncle Don's birthday, instead of whoever's birthday they went with instead, they would have got not the whole prize, but they would have jumped up to like the next like big level, like 50, 60 grand or something like that. So it's on, I bet, I bet Don like to talk about that. I would never heard the end up. We never heard.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So here's a one more dream before we get back to some of the posts. Uh, I dream my oldest sister fell through several, several floors. It must've been apartment floors. And every time she fell through a floor, the Ken, Kendrick Lamar song would say they not like us then boom, another. What the hell does that mean? Well, I mean, it was a big it was probably during the time. It was probably during that time when that song was just like you
Starting point is 00:33:55 that one week or whatever, maybe three days where it was all over the place. I was probably just stuck in your head. And yeah, there was not a play about it was just a million times a day. Yeah. Okay. This is the first post I saw on lottery post. Did you just say lottery post is the website. The question is, would you dress up to claim a jackpot prize?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yes. 47.4% say yes. 31.6% say no, and 21.0% say not sure. So being honest with you, I didn't hear the question. I was thinking about blows. Yeah. And I know he's got a new steamroller technique where when he does a big full up like that, he'll steamroll ahead. he'll just broadcast at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Pouncement pro. I can't show them down. If he really start talking, then he'll talk. Yeah. But what was the question? Would you dress up to claim a jackpot prize? What does that mean? Is it a disguise? A tuxedo?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Well, you're going to not be surprised. I can fill a tuxedo. Yeah. Which one is it a disguise? Tuxedo? Well, you're going to not be surprised. I can fill a tuxedo. Which one is it? Do they mean dress up in a disguise or a fancy outfit? Well, artist 77 says, I assume you mean dress up as in a costume, which is an odd assumption to make. That's the only one I don't like maybe dress up for like fool people so they don't think
Starting point is 00:35:24 it's you. Well, he goes, I would I would try to be as bland as possible and with no cute or entertaining lottery stories to imprint on the mind of anyone. Me, I'm slicking my hair back. I'm going pencil mustache. Oh, I see. Now I'm sure I'm saying my fifty five million, please. Oh, yes, absolutely. I'm making a huge to-do about it. I mean I am absolutely
Starting point is 00:35:48 milking it for sure. It's got to be a huge moment. This person's thinking like a movie again you know like you want to be nondescript like you know. Like the accountant. Yeah. Treating like it's the Italian job. Yeah that's what they're thinking. They're there at this. It's like, no, just fucking enjoy it. You won the lottery. Enjoy the moment. You know. So here's an interesting little thing.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Lotterologist posts. I might wear a hat and a poncho similar to the one Clint Eastwood warned of Fistful of Dollars. I dress like that in the 80s with a poncho that I bought in Mexico. Nobody says a thing back to that. What do you say to that? And then later on, the next post from lotterologist is the very next post. I won't discuss the night. I almost got into a bar fight against five football players. Oh, man, we got to come on. Message of it.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Get the story. Well, I will. I was wearing my hat and poncho that night. Oh, wait. Oh, so he does. He does. Yeah. So people want to beat him up because he wore a hat and a poncho. Yeah, which is totally understandable. The quarterback bumped into me in an unfriendly manner, so I shoved him and when his linebacker teammates intervene, I told him I would take them all on.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I've been waiting. How did he know what positions that you can build? You saw the death start before he went into the bar. Maybe he's a big football fan. You can tell from the numbers often. You know what I mean? We're wearing our jerseys. Yeah, they're wearing their jerseys in the bar.
Starting point is 00:37:25 They probably are. It was probably a game day or whatever. And they probably had their jerseys on before homecoming or whatever. And yeah, and they had that. You could tell like 55 or whatever is going to be a linebacker. Whereas a quarterback. Yeah. I had been drinking and the bar was full of people that night. His much larger teammates diffused the situation by telling me that I was quote tough and they quote, didn't want to fight me.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So it was, okay. Is this, I wonder if he's talking about line, the, the form engine line backers or if these are line men, the larger months, somebody in the bar even offered to buy me a drink. He's saying this dressed in a poncho and a sombrero. Yeah. And on a lottery message board after saying he wears a poncho and a sombrero. Yeah. Yes. And on a lottery message board after saying he wears a poncho and a cowboy hat and nobody responding or voting
Starting point is 00:38:12 or anything. Don't act like he just said it. They asked they asked would you dress up to go pick up your lottery winnings and then he said, yeah, I would wear this old costume. I used to wear around town like Clint Eastwood. I wonder if he had the little the little cigar in the corner of his mouth, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Like a great movie, great films. But oh, I love them. And Chris, I mean, films, great films. We do know Chris. Chris doesn't think it's that bad because he dressed as the big Lebowski for a period of time. So well, I didn't dress exactly like him. I dressed in his essence and I believed I was him.
Starting point is 00:38:49 There's a big difference. So he goes, somebody in the bar even offered to buy me a drink. I accepted and the conflict was forgotten and the people went back to party. And I had some wild experiences in my younger years Cool. Did anybody respond to that? No, not one person It that's brutal. I know because people are interacting on this Yes Is where I live one can claim their jackpot anonymously?
Starting point is 00:39:23 So no cameras no no press, and this is no need to dress up. I would show up in jeans and t-shirt. Cool. That's kind of a cool guy. He's kind of got a cool vibe to him. Brad Pitt kind of vibe, you know, this guy goes, I'd wear my favorite t-shirt with a funny saying and the jeans, maybe the sunglasses and my future is going to be so bright after winning that I got to wear shades parentheses for those who know 80s tunes. For that. Thank you. Good luck to all who have this problem of figuring out what the where when they claim the big one for a couple hundred grand, I might even dress fancy.
Starting point is 00:39:58 What is what is I wonder what is funny shirt says? Oh, I know. I know. I would do anything to see his funny shirt. You should message him. Yeah, I guess you can't message him and say, what's your funny shirt look like? What? Can I see a photo of your? Or you could just reply in the thread.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Hey, you know, like, where does that post from? Like two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, you could just reply and say, hey, man, I'd love to see the funny shirt, you know? Okay. Our lottery leg leg on leg a on, I don't know. Is this a good strategy for lottery tickets and scratch off tickets? No, before you say anything, no, you haven't heard it yet. Neither one of you have heard this yet. Would it be a good strategy to buy massive amounts of scratch offs to win prizes and money? Suppose you had a thousand or $5,000 to spend money that
Starting point is 00:40:50 you don't need for bills. Would it be a good idea to spend that on lottery tickets? No, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to. You'd want to save it or put it into some type of investments or whatever that were, you were, I would say it depends on your situation, but you probably most likely want to save it. Yeah. Ty Blachko says, bruh, with 5K, you can live for a few months at least and more in poor countries traveling and having fun. But what about after?
Starting point is 00:41:22 It's like go to a poor country. But what about after? country? What about after? Oh, do you know? You can't just leave for months. You have a job. You have a job, I guess, maybe or something. So he goes, this was just an idea or a concept. I wasn't really that serious about it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 If I did do it this way, then I would purchase mass amounts of lottery tickets. One for three grand to buy lottery tickets with it. Like you. Yeah, maybe you could go to buy lottery tickets with it. Like you can, yeah, maybe you could go to, you know, Panama and live like a king for, you know, poker do poker. Why don't you go play fucking roulette? The game of champions.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But do you need, but whatever, what if something happens in your, like do you have a huge amount of savings as well? Your house is paid off. I don't understand. This is just unimportant money is what he's saying. And what I'm saying is unimportant money in the year 2024. Well, I mean, I don't have any unimportant money. That's for sure. So I just I would think that these are people who just they just want to play the scratch and wet.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You know what I mean? Like color me slowly, before I would spend that kind of money on scratchers, I would look at the remaining prizes and see where the past winning tickets were. Although this does not mean a lot, but I would research. Because you can look up the prizes that are left on the websites. That's one of the secrets of being a lottery guy. Wow. That is a secret because I did not realize that. So you can look up on a particular scratch and when like site like do they go in cycles or you can look up how what has been claimed and you can also not just look up what has been claimed. You can look up
Starting point is 00:42:57 how many tickets are left. You're scratching scratching ones, right? Yeah. Wow. I had no idea of that. That does the big strategy. Yeah, that is that that makes sense. That is worth looking into if you're playing the scratch scratchers all the time. Yes. Yes. And he goes, also, I'd stay away from new tickets. They always have like kind of a good idea. And then they're like, also, I would stay away from new tickets. And the guy's like, why should you stay away from new tickets? And they're like, more times than not the top money prizes. And those tickets are in the middle towards the end and not at the beginning. So they think that the, I am not inclined to,
Starting point is 00:43:37 I am inclined to believe that scratch off tickets are a random number generator and that the state isn't deciding at what point they're going to stick the big prize in the thing. But these are what and you know, what they'd be doing. The slot machine guys are like this too, where they believe it's like there's like algorithms to be gained and like there's certain patterns and stuff like that. And I wonder if that is true or if it actually is just the case that they're losing their minds.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I would say with that, with a, with a slot machine, there'd be more of a chance of it, maybe probably more winners on a slot machine. I would guess I don't, I don't. Yeah. I don't see what the benefit would be for them to say, Oh, we're going to put the big winners in the middle always. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I mean, like, why would they tip it in any way? What would be the benefit to them? If there was one, then maybe I would believe it, but right. Well, there is a, there is a question that is being asked about that. And I think it's a good question that we should look into because somebody did ask, like, is there luck in the place that you buy them? You guys know what I mean by that? Like are there certain places that you go to where you're going to get more winning tickets?
Starting point is 00:44:56 And does the lottery seed those places? Because that's something that I saw a lot of people like again, like actually, and, and it's not just seed those places. It's mom and pop gas stations. Yeah. Why would the lottery seed mom and pop gas stations and how in the fuck would speedway and like Kroger not be the ones that get seeded and does that even benefit? Like, does it even benefit them? Like when it would get them a little bit of publicity, you know Yeah, you see like gases sometimes say like a $50,000 ticket sold here, like, you know, they put the little yeah, I wonder if that would be like
Starting point is 00:45:37 You know some some gambling minds will be like well, there's no more winners there. They've exhausted their winnings So I'm gonna go elsewhere. So it may be like the opposite thing on that front. You're so smart, Tom, because I was talking to Katie. Katie, my wife is the one that got us to do this show because she just mentioned that she'd been seeing a lot of lottery guys on Instagram. Now I don't know what she's fucking doing with our algorithm. She does like scratch offs. I do buy her scratch offs all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So, um, all that time. Yes. When I go out, scratch your house. How much? And listen, we're no judgments at all. We know it's not even going to touch the money you spend on other dumb shit. But how much money would you say you spend on scratchers on in a week? In a week? Yeah. I mean, I don't buy them every week,
Starting point is 00:46:26 but probably like maybe, I would say $50 a week would be a normal week, sometimes a hundred. But when you buy $50 worth of tickets, you oftentimes win your money back, and then we just take the tickets back in, and we buy more tickets and then lose the money. So do you do that usually like as in and does that usually get expressed as like 10 $5 scratchers or it's usually one that has a like generally it's yeah yeah we like to buy a few $10 ones and then
Starting point is 00:47:00 we'll go down to the $5 ones like when we're starting. Yeah, cuz we'll drop 50 bucks on him. We'll put we'll go to the lottery machine. We'll do $50 and we'll just, you know, pick a few tens cuz you do win more on the $10 and I believe that you can do like you can win more on on the $10 level. So there's just more prizes on a $10 ticket. So this guy goes, today I had a small winning scratcher and was near a convenience store that I could run in easily without the crowds of the usual places I go to. But then I had this feeling. Oh, I don't want to go in there because I've never won anything whenever I bought tickets there. I figured that
Starting point is 00:47:40 was a while ago. I'll give it another shot. So I went in and traded my winnings plus a few extra bucks for 20 scratchers. There was a guy already there scratching off about several tickets in a row. He bought. He showed his coworking. He said not one winner. Guess we have to go back to work and they forced themselves to laugh. With 20 tickets, I figured I'd get something back, but I only won $3. Is it possible that some stores don't get a quote, good batch? There was another store. See, they piss off, they piss off the lottery guy.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Like they all go into a meeting every month and some of them are like, they just spoke disrespectfully to the lottery guy who gives out the tickets. And now they get the, Oh, let's give them a sour batch. But this is so conspiracy minded that I'm very it's interesting that to me that they think the way that they're thinking is so flawed because if the lottery was seeding places, you would assume it's because the lottery had interest in making money and that a small liquor store wouldn't be the place that you would seed. You would charge big businesses to seed their tickets. I know you keep saying you say seed so many times and I feel like it's because you're
Starting point is 00:49:01 such a you're such a pervert. But what what like you see just means like give it good tickets so that it. Right. Yeah, it's possible that some stores don't get good batches. There's another story for you as well. Now we're saying batch. And that's what they say. There's another store that I frequent mainly because I frequently went off their scratchers, even if I just buy one or two. I can't believe I got 20 today
Starting point is 00:49:28 and only one was a measly winner. Something's fishy. I made a comment to the clerk who gave me the death stare for saying it. I didn't know. Yeah, gave you, no, it was not the death stare. It was, are you a fucking idiot was the look that you were getting.
Starting point is 00:49:42 The look you're getting is there's eight people behind you. And you are complaining that you didn't win the lottery. I have to try. I mean, because in a way I feel sorry for them. But have you ever been like in a gas station getting something and there's lottery people that will just sit there and play the lottery while a line forms behind them and they'll they'll do their scratch offs.
Starting point is 00:50:04 They'll say give me and they'll keep ordering tickets while there's people. I want to drag those people out the parking lot and like drown them in that little fluid that you wash your windows with. It's why it's why I, I hate coupons. I just don't think they should exist. Nobody should ever use them. It's it's fucking honestly, it should be considered bad manners to use them. You're being humble upon my pet issue, Brian. Now, this is elitist.
Starting point is 00:50:33 This is elitist discussion. Yeah, it is. Some people need the coupons to be able to afford the stuff, Brian. Sorry, not everybody is, you know, not everybody is. You're responsible as me and Brian. I'm saying the words I was looking for. Everybody is, you know, not everybody is responsible as me and Brian. I'm saying the word words I was looking for. I'm saying, though, like if you're saving fucking 40 cents, I don't need you to be saving 40 like it's 40 cents.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Have you ever gotten behind the extreme couponers and they are the here? I've done this at night at like the drugstore and like, and they just get in front of you and you're just in line for 20 minutes while they just like rattle off 40 cases of fucking bounty towel paper. I think they and whatever you can do in this day and age, it's tough out there for people. And I say this to someone who lives in Canada, does not experience this at all because this whole culture doesn't really exist here. So I've never been caught behind a coup on her in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:51:26 That's because you all don't have to pay for drugs. Luckily. Oh, hey, hey, let me let me tell you something, Tom. Shit is pretty fucking bad up here in Vancouver. I live. It's not Bernie Sanders. Is let you know, I do not have a doctor nor do I have a grocery store that's affordable other than your fine Walmart actually is the only place around here. Interestingly enough, where I can afford groceries. It's really gotten quite shitty up here as well. Sorry, Brian, you were saying I'm saying if you're standing, I think it should be, I guess
Starting point is 00:52:00 like good manners would be considered if you're going to use coupons. First of all, they should have one line for that. And that's a good ticket. That's a good idea. Actually. I just wonder if they can justify it. But yeah, the lottery line lottery slash you guys say coupon coupon. I don't know how to say it.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I get made fun of it on YKS a lot of times. Okay, but yeah, I say coupon coupon. Yeah, I say coupon, but you shouldn't you should let the person go in front of time. OK, but yeah, I say coupon coupon. I say coupon. But you shouldn't. You should let the person go in front of you if you're a pain in the ass customer is what I'm saying. It's somebody standing behind you with like a fucking loaf of bread. And you're like, I'm going to play 17 scratch off tickets real quick. It's like you should let me go in front of you and just get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'll get pretty confrontational. I'll be honest with you. I will. I'll like not in like a physically aggressive way or anything like that. But I will say that if somebody's doing that, I'll be like, hey, man, can I just pay for I just have the one thing here? Can I just pay for this and then you can start doing that thing again? I just got to run here. Like I would just wildly inconvenience everybody. Yeah. I just go though.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I would definitely say something in that situation. I yelled at a lady once when I was real zooted up on pills at a This isn't that's not what I'm talking about lottery ticket story Okay, so what what take us back to when when was this? Oh god, it would have been like 2002 Maybe 2002 it would have been to this point you were still quiber It had to been like 2002, maybe 2002. It would have been too. At this point, you were still Kweeber. Not at this time, because I think the people I was with
Starting point is 00:53:37 would have called me Brian at this time. I think you are probably it sounds like if I, if I know Kweeber, I know Brian, Brian's a good friend of mine and I also know Kuiber. And if I know Kuiber is something he would do yelling at what is the difference in the two personalities, nothing Kuiber qualitatively different than Brian. He was on Groveport and on Pills. He lived in Kuiber with your drug addled reprobate alter ego. You said that he was the redneck.
Starting point is 00:54:06 He was like if I had to be considered like the redneck pill guy, that's him. He lived in Groveport and was the guy that was out there. Tom, you've been to Groveport. You know what it's like there. Yeah, that's who I was. It's just a quiver. And who gave you the nickname again? What's the guy's name? Yeah, that's who I was. It's just a quiver. And who gave you the nickname again?
Starting point is 00:54:25 What's the guy's name? And Theo, who's Theo, Theo, Theo. This is this is so good. Yeah, Theo is a real it was Theo. Yeah, it wasn't Theo Vaughn for anyone who's wondering. No, it's the guy that I went. I went to meet my girlfriend's parents and he took me because I didn't have a driver's license or anything.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And he was kind of there to while we were. Or is Quiber didn't have a driver's license or anything. And he was kind of there too, while we were eating. Or Squeeber doesn't have a license. We're eating dinner. It's my girlfriend, me, Theo and his parents and her parents. And her dad offers Theo a job with him, but not me. And I felt like that's like the rudest thing anybody's ever done. And it was like, bro, you don't have to offer. You could get his phone number and call him after I leave. I'm your daughter's boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:55:12 But we discussed it like he was going by Gleiber and I wasn't going. He didn't. He didn't seem like a good worker or whatever, you know. Oh, yeah. Cotton Eye Joe says,, oh yeah, it's definitely possible. Wait a second. Wait, wait a second. What about when you're shouting at the old lady? It wasn't an old lady. She was mad. She kept sending people. It was 12 45 or so. PM. Oh, and you gotta stop selling booze at one. So you mean you mean 12 45 a.m. then? Yeah, at night. It was nighttime.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Whatever that's called. Oh, 45 a.m. is that is the is the night. It's technically the morning, but it's more. I know what you're talking about. It's the night in your mind. Yeah. But they have to stop selling beer at one and the cash register shut down. It won't let you scan beer after one o'clock in the morning and in Ohio, they have it all set up that way. And, uh, it's 12 45.
Starting point is 00:56:14 We're waiting in line and this lady has sent a guy to check the price of cheese, like four times. And when he comes back,'s like she's like no that's wrong go look again go look again and time is ticking the line is long there's only one line open and I just went fucking nuts on her and just started yelling and then I said oh pay for it yelling yeah I was yelling and I said I'd pay for it just get the fuck out of here and you can imagine if you guys know what he looked like, then if you see you imagine the Kweeber doing that. Oh, Kweeber just being like,
Starting point is 00:56:53 peeled up like his eyes just like fucking frisbees, you know? She was absolutely built to the back, just screaming, sweating. It's looking like the median Woodstock 99. First of all, you know, it's a lady just terrified, you know, and she might even recognize him as like, oh, that's one of the guys from the local violence gang that does. I was not in a violence gang.
Starting point is 00:57:20 So anyway, here's some more. Here's some more dreams that I thought we'd look at. I OK. My daughter called me and she said she dreamed that Max dog pooped in her house. Any numbers associated to this dream will be greatly appreciated. God bless us all and good luck. Her address is one four four four. What's Matt? What's Max? I don't know who Max dog is, but he pooped. And then James, he says, I dream the ceiling fan started leaking water right after my son left for work when he slammed the door. I heard the water dripping on the
Starting point is 00:57:49 bed. I got up and felt the bed and it was wet in that spot over my bed. But when I got up the spot in the middle of the bed wasn't wet. What does this mean? Well wait a second. Are you, did they just want to know what it means now or do they want lottery numbers? Yeah. What are the numbers? That's what they're saying. Dreamt my husband, husband. Happy Easter. I dreamt my husband purchased a gold truck for $100,000.
Starting point is 00:58:14 When asked, he said he borrowed the money from a friend to buy the truck. It was in pure gold, not painted. So it's another dream. Just kind of. That's kind of too close. That dream is like too close to the lottery already. It was in pure gold, not painted. So it's another dream. Just gonna. It's kind of too close. That dream is like too close to the lottery already. It's too close to like the thing that you would do
Starting point is 00:58:32 if you won the lot. You know what I mean? It's. All right. So we're on Amazon. There is a book, a 27 page book that you can buy for, I'm serious. It's 27 pages. It's eight ninety nine
Starting point is 00:58:47 And it's only that wait a second It's only you only get twenty seven pages for nine dollars. Yeah, that's three dollars a page, right? No, okay, thirty cents or something third The book is by Bobby Alexander it's called called How I Play and Win Lottery Scratch Off Tickets. And so he says all money's in the cottage industry always. It's not in the scratch offs. It's in the selling a book to people that play scratch. Yeah. That's how a lot of this stuff is how I made my millions through this book. You know? Scratch offs is the nuttiest thing to pick. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Like, it's okay. Makes sense, cause he's walking around in suits and he calls himself the trillion dollar man. And you would think he would know what you're supposed to invest in. But yeah, scratch offs are like the thing you get in your stocking when you're a kid at Christmas, you know, they're like a fun little thing with silly little characters on them and stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:50 This is a three star review. And it says this review is a fair rating because testing is theories takes time. I read this book and found it very specific in terms of its recommendations, but I am not rich yet. Yet. Anyway, it will take time to try them. What's interesting so far is just how willing and I guess legal it is to find out things he says
Starting point is 01:00:11 we should know before buying a ticket. I just called the phone number to the lottery office from the lottery website, asked how many tickets come on each roll. I was interested in playing. I was surprised it was so easy to find out in five minutes. I was even more shocked when I went to a few stores that sell tickets and walked up to the counter and asked what role or roles did you just put out? And the girl answers. What role is about to end with just a few tickets left to sell? They look and they answer. I'm next going to ask what ticket number is the next ticket on the roll. The author recommends that the sweet spot
Starting point is 01:00:46 on the roll is in a certain place. It occurred to me yesterday that I will see if the girls at the counter freely give out info. Give that info out as well. I read this guy's book and bought another advice book about scratch off tickets on Amazon the next day. I'm still trying and testing and it was planning to mix the advice of both books, but now I think I'll stick with one book at a time and see the results are clear and my practice is easier and clear and instructions and results cannot be denied. Good luck everyone. I'm taking the book seriously so that whether I win or lose will be based
Starting point is 01:01:19 on if this guy is right or wrong as I'm following the book to the letter. Worth a try in case it works. So I mean, very weird review because he's like, I can't believe the lady told me how many tickets there are left. Like, why would the cashier hide information from you? She doesn't give a fuck. I know what she doesn't know is that I bought the system. Yeah, she doesn't know I'm cheating. Actually, I like I like how you treat it like you give us counting cards
Starting point is 01:01:50 and she's the pit boss, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He's a cashier at a convenience store. God, are you kidding me? This group doesn't even realize that the wool is getting pulled over her eyes. She's just like a fucking teenage worker at a gas station. You know, he sees her as the house. Yeah, he thinks that like that money, it that this money is going to come in right out of their coffers.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You know, yeah. The house always wins. And by the house, I mean, the lady running in the cash register where I bought this person gives it four stars. It says I learned something about scratch off tickets that I didn't know about. How to play a role with tickets well and when I'm very glad I got the book. I'm sure there are things in the book that the lottery people would not want the people to know about. Yes, I would recommend the book.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So it sounds like it's a good book. Do you find any negative reviews on it? Uh, here's a five star review. Uh, it's titled Rick does the scratchies. Um, Oh no, it's not long, but I like it. Like the author says, these instant pays are a lot different from picking tickets. You have to understand quote the pack you're playing. I haven't had much luck with these, but I didn't play and I haven't had much luck with these, but I didn't play. And I haven't had much luck with these, but I didn't play in correct sequence either. I wasted time on one dollar tickets, et cetera. As this is where you idiot, you moron.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Why don't you just take your money and throw it in the toilet? Dip shit. The thing the three of us have said at the top of the show, you can't play the one dollar boys. Can not. it's pathetic. It's stupid. And this guy even puts it. That's where the state pockets a lot of their profits on the one dollar.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He knows that. Yeah, you could ask the cashier and she has to tell you that. Yeah. Yeah, it's entrapment if she doesn't. I have to tell me how many tickets are left. All right. Finally, a one star review. There we go. There we go.
Starting point is 01:03:55 There we go. There's a basic information slash common sense. So the book is full of common sense. If you didn't believe that. Just common sense approaches to win and scratch. That's what they should put out a common sense approach. It's like, does it hurt your fingernail when you do it? Think about using a coin.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You know, that's the only good advice for a scratch. It is not to win in the scratch. No, this it sounds like this guy does have some stuff as far as that is helpful to know what prizes have gone out and how many tickets are left. But I think all the other stuff about like, you know, the sweet spot of a role and stuff. I think that's all bullshit. But it's like it would be helpful if you knew, oh, there's a bunch more prizes left on this and very few tickets left on it.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So my odds are way better. Like, there's a bunch more prizes left on this and very few tickets left on it. So my odds are way better. Like that's obviously helpful. I would say one of the meanest things I've ever been a part of was we were on tour with the district sentinel guys and Tom and Terrence and we were out on the bus. That's our outing, right? Yeah. Yeah. And we were playing scratch offs at a lot of places.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It would stop and we in every city and we buy some scratch offs and one of them was a fake winner. And we gave it to Sam Knight from District Sentinel Radio and he thought he won and he was so happy and he was so nice. He's like, I'm going to give each one of you guys a thousand dollars. And like he thought he was. I immediately felt like give each one of you guys a thousand dollars. And like he, he thought he was, I immediately felt like the biggest piece of shit. I know when he said I'm going to give each of you a thousand dollars, I was like, we shouldn't have done this. This was wrong. Cause I was on the record as saying I didn't want to do it from the beginning.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Well, what we should have did at that point was say, boys, all right, here's what we're doing. However we got to do it. We're going to cobble together $50,000 and give it to this man. 50, you made the guy think he's gonna get 50 Gs. Maybe he's like 10, maybe he's like 10. It was something crazy. It was a big amount of money. And it was like he needed the money or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Like he used it at that point, right? We're a working class guy, like not, like it's not like, oh, whatever, who cares about this? It was like, we like money to him. So it was a really mean prank. It reminds me of the scene in my life. Reminds me of the Fresh Prince of Remember when they didn't that happen to Jeffrey the and then he like tells him like, screw you and like shit.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That's good. If that had happened, it would be like, cool. But when he said, I'm going to give each of you money, it was like, oh, so how did you tell him? I had to tell him. And then I can't imagine what he felt like inside when it was the flattest. Like it was like, you know, you're expecting this big payoff, right? Like we're all going to have a hearty laugh about this.
Starting point is 01:06:38 No, no, it was. I won't do that again. Yeah, I would never do that again. That's never, ever, ever, ever be a party to something like that. You don't those are the work. Do not buy those tickets ever. They're the meanest thing you can do. Yeah. And so and at what point in the tour was this middle middle. Yeah. So it was the point I get it sort of like, did it put a bit of a cloud over the rest of the tour? No, he was fine. But I, in my mind, I was driving and I wanted to tell him right away, but I didn't want to be the guy that told him because there are 10 of us. And it's like, well, I don't know how far they want to take this. You know what I mean? So I just didn't say anything. I was about three minutes into the prank when I didn't want to do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can we have him on an episode? I'm yeah, let's get him on an episode. Like maybe on the bonus to just talk about it and address the situation. How do you feel? You know, two years later, turn it into like a super serious thing. Yeah. Five years later. I that's that's five years ago.
Starting point is 01:07:52 That's sorry, Brian. I just was the best prank that I've ever heard someone pull. I like in a tour type thing is a comedian named Ryan Patterson, the Canadian comedian who was driving with this other comedian. He set up to have a fucking other person that they didn't know, like an actor, someone that they knew from somewhere else, as a hitchhiker down the road, and then picked him up against the will of the other comedian who was like,
Starting point is 01:08:22 ''No, don't pick up the hitchhiker.'' He was like, ''No, I think he seems nice or whatever. And then the guy just acted so fucking psychotic and he made him sleep in the same sort of area as him. And it went on for so long. And it really had no no one really got hurt by it. And they all got to laugh at the end of it. But yeah, that is it was so elaborate and so good. I hate pranks. That was I hated pranks.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I hate pranks, too. I'm I'm not a fan. How can you? Maybe I just hate pranks on me. Or like, I think you're like, I guess I like pranks the way you do them, because I don't. Yeah, that's why. And I don't really like pranks that much either. I mean, I like, you know, I really much prefer just doing a character Which is what I do more on my channel now like just doing long-form character stuff where I call
Starting point is 01:09:12 As some character with some concept or have somebody on with a concept and do an interview, you know Before we get out of here. I want to go to Quora real quick for you guys There's a good question here. How can you win the lottery? So let's get an answer to that from from this guy. Fold your dollar up. Put it back in your pocket. Lotteries are taxes on people who can't do math. The odds of winning California Super Lotto Plus are one in
Starting point is 01:09:40 41,000,416,353. Even if you can't do math, you can see it's a losing proposition. Take your dollar and put it into a small savings account or use a corner similar service. Don't even look at the account till you have $10,000. Then put it in a brokerage and get good professional advice. I worked for Apple computer in the 1990s. I told he's got some bona fides. I told the newbies right out of college to put 5% of their income into spy, which is an ETF that tracks S&P 500s. If they did it, they'd be rich by now.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I did. I retired when I was 40. Well, that's yeah, that's cool. I think that I understand the lottery though. People people understand because it's not think that I understand the lottery though. People, people under, because not, it's not all stupid people playing the lottery. You know, there's a lot of people who are well aware of the odds and they know that they're probably not going to win. But I think it's just like you're paying for like a little bit of a hope or something like that.
Starting point is 01:10:36 You know, you're just paying for that moment that, Hey, I get it. And it could happen. And it's like, I get to experience the hope of that potentially happening in a horrible place. It's talking about what you would do. I wonder if the proliferation of the gambling apps has like hurt, uh, the scratchers market share or helped it. I wonder. Yeah. It seems like there are people that just love scratches though. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't,
Starting point is 01:11:02 it maybe has hurt it because people can play slots, but it really feels like people like sitting at home. Like I saw people who are like, hey, it's our date night. I bought $200 worth of scratch off tickets and they sit at their sit in their living room and just scratch $200 worth of tickets off together. It feels much dread. I can't even describe to you what I feel. But that's only that's only two. That's only like twice as much as what Brian does with his. I know if you won the lottery, what's the first thing you would buy and why?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Tim Jones says, assuming I want to at least say 30 to 50 million. The first thing I buy is a Honda jet. As a private pilot, I fly old, beat up Cessnas that I rent. I have lusted for the Honda Jet. A single pilot aircraft. It's so cool. I could get to my hometown 500 miles away in a little more than an hour. That'd be awesome. Pick up my buds and fly them somewhere exciting for dinner. Though with all the big city violence these days, we probably have to fly to a mid side city with a decent length runway. Good point. But so much big city.
Starting point is 01:12:09 There's a lot of big city violence. You're not going to take your private jet into the big city. They'll see it coming from a mile away. Oh, they'll probably shoot you down. Oh, you know, the fucking anti, you know, aircraft are. I mean, there's no way that you're going to even hit the ground. Good point. So I love how they think that most airports are just actually right
Starting point is 01:12:31 in the thick of the crown ridden, you know, and not and not like 20 miles out of town. Yeah. And the logistics of an airport, it's yeah, it can't really. It's got needs a lot of space. I would say me and Tom both live in mid-sized cities too. I do too. I live in a mid-sized city. I think it's not it's not functionally very different from a big city other than being a little bit smaller. We have a lot of crime as well here, I would say.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And you know, we get it. Rick Klugman says a a can of gasoline. That way I could burn my shit hole of a place down and have the money to start over. Seriously, we bought our home when it had just been built in 94. We've been lucky. And the most of the original appliances are still working. And it's only a matter of time.
Starting point is 01:13:20 The rest of the house and furnishings are all original as well. And I've seen better days. I love the house and I love the area. So if I hit it big, I wouldn't want to move. I'd just have a gutted floor to ceiling and start over. That's kind of cool. Yeah, I get that. Hey, I want to stay in the same exact spot, but our house is shit and old.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I would just put up a nice new house here. That's kind of practical and cool as well. You know, like it's like yeah, that's a good good dream And finally what should you do if you win a huge lottery? And this is one that I really wanted to read because this gets to the core of these guys That's the last thing we're gonna do here and the guy goes. Here's my plan One I get a safe deposit box Two I take a picture of the unsigned ticket next to my driver's license with a dated item.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And that's two. Three, I store the ticket in the safe deposit box. Four, I research and hire a legal and financial team to advise me. Five, they set up a blind trust. I'm in Ohio. I can claim anonymously. Six. Who is this?
Starting point is 01:14:23 Where in Ohio are they? I can claim anonymously six. Who is this? The fire in Ohio, are they? Not in Columbus, probably. It doesn't work. Not I'm not in Groveport. And you know it. I live downtown. I live in the short north. Short north. Oh, risk a crime.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Brian's never even been to Groveport. Shut up. I haven't been to Groveport since. You've never been. You could take the Groveport. I don't think I don't think you could go. I could go around in Groveport and say, hey, do you know someone named Brian? I don't think anybody would fucking bad at I.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Queiber they might. Are you guys saying that it's just going to become a, they set up a blind trust. The financial advisor helps me set up a long-term investment and distribution plan. Next. I accompany the legal team. When we go to claim the ticket through the trust, I plan to be in the photograph with the big check as quote, one of the team. And also I want to keep an eye on things. Oh, so this is this is a real like this is a full plot to a sort of an action movie Jason Bourne style here.
Starting point is 01:15:32 He's like, so he's like, I'm just one of the team. Like he's pretending to be one of the team, but you can tell exactly which one. If you're fair, this is very smart. This is what they're all this gets to the core of them when they win. A real lottery guy when he wins does not offer money to anybody. You know what I mean? It goes to well, you know, that's not true. Offers money to different companies to protect
Starting point is 01:16:01 the anonymity of his winnings from all of the people he loves. So they're like, hey, we don't. So it's actually really even worse than I love how these guys like all the guys that have conceived of winning the lottery are all prepared to live double lives. Oh, yeah. I'm going to cash discounted options so I can control all of it from the get go. So I think they want the big lump sum payment because when I have the distribution date in hand, I put in my two weeks notice at work.
Starting point is 01:16:35 When my first quote paycheck is deposited into my account, I pay off any and all outstanding debts. Then I buy a new car. Mine's 17 years old. This will not raise suspicions because it'll be a reasonable car, not 17 years old. This will not raise suspicions because it'll be a reasonable car, not a Tesla. Why would I need one? I get some work done on the house, new roof, paint job, redo the driveway, a bit of landscaping. Again, reasonable, won't raise suspicions. There's a lot of inside cleanup to be done. So I hire a team to help. And then finally, I go on vacation and try to wrap my head around what just happened and figure out a plan for the rest of my life. That's so that's I imagine that he's kind of, you know, like
Starting point is 01:17:09 he's just looking out over like the ocean is sort of a beautiful landscape and some foreign land and the camera kind of zooms in on his face as he looks off into the and then it's just the credits roll. And he's alone. There's nobody there. There's nobody there. He's just drinking a Corona like a Snoop Dogg commercial. Yeah. And he's filling out missing persons. Just bring him home. He's bringing him home.
Starting point is 01:17:37 He's a wife. He's got a wife that he's just laughing completely. That was lottery guys. Tom, thank you for coming on. And Tom's from the Trailbillies. Great show. Go to their Patreon. Get it. I hear Tom's voice in my house more than almost anybody's. More than Chris's. What a great voice it is. And we love Tom. We love the Trailbillies. Great show. One of our favorite guests ever. And yeah, thanks. Thanks for coming we love Tom. We love the trailbellies great show one of our favorite guests ever and yeah Thanks. Thanks for coming on Tom. Well last time we tried to have you on and there was like some technical
Starting point is 01:18:12 Things so we didn't want to say that everyone because they'd be like what the fuck we missed out on a fucking So yeah, we got Tom back everyone. Yeah. Well, we always will get Tom back. We'll see you all next week Don't know what we're doing. So we'll see you next week Wow

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