Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 92 - Man Guys with Merritt K

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Merritt K joined us this week to talk about Man Guys. What makes a man guy a man guy? Well, bacon for one thing, but we also looked at some chivers, some man card revocations and the art of manliness!...  Wishlist Merritt's game Fledgling Manor on steam, lets get the Guys bump!  There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast twitter.com/murderxbryan and  https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, welcome to guys podcast about guys. I'm Brian. With me is my guy friend, Chris James. Hi, Chris. Hey, Brian. It's cool to be on the show. Hey, that's not how a guy talks. Come on. That's not an immediately way to talk. No, no, I'm the really big guy who's like so fucking scary.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Do you know what I mean? And he's like so scary that it's funny just that he talks that way, you know? Just as soon as he opens his mouth, you're like, what the hell, that guy and his name's even tiny. That's exactly the same. Big guy named Tiny. Classic bit. Yeah. Here's my co-host, Tiny Chris. Tiny Chris, that's a good name for you. Hey, how's it going? I killed the guy with my bare fists. I was in a violence gang.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Well, in all seriousness, in all seriousness, that's not actually something to joke about doing stranger tech, doing stranger texts on elderly people as part of a violent game. You never did it on an elderly people. Let's get the guest on the show. Well, you actually admitted that you did do it to an elderly person. No, I didn't admit that I beat up an elderly guy. I beat up a kid's dad and I didn't even do it. It was somebody else. Yeah, of course. It was porn. Porn O'Shawn, I'm sure. It's probably porno.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Sean or Jason and our guest this week. You'll remember her from the warm hammer episode. I said that on purpose. We're not goofing on that. Merit K. Hi, Merit. I tried to do something and I realized, oh fuck, I'm doing Donald Duck. That's a good man. He's a good man.
Starting point is 00:01:49 He's a very masculine figure, I feel. So masculine he doesn't even bother to throw a drawer at his father. He doesn't even care, right? Yeah. I know we're not talking about Warhammer this week, but I do just have to point out that it's been in the news in the past few days that Henry's Warhammer show is probably not going to happen. Yeah, it's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I know. I'm so happy. I've never been happier than when I started to read it. And listen, I'm not trying to yuck anybody's young, but they were so excited about it a year ago. And now they're like- I just want to know how, like, it feels like it's a real it's like Henry has sort of left them out in the cold. It's like a betrayal in a way from Henry, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:31 but it seemed like he wanted to play like seven characters or so. That's why I let him do it. Let him do an Eddie Murphy style clump style fucking increasingly fucked up prosthetics on his face. Do you think that the thing you come up with is going to be better than that? Right? Good luck. Yeah, he was like I would go to the Warhammer when we're doing the bonus shows, right? I go to the Warhammer forum and check in on them. It was always like a 200 a 200 like page think comment thread
Starting point is 00:03:06 on Reddit of people being like, I think you should play this guy. I think you should play this guy. I think you should play that. And I was like, can somebody else play something? But hey, so if it was all him and he was doing funny voices, it's I'm just gonna have a step in here and all serious system to get out this board game painting dolls crap and get on to the main subject, please bacon. So what we're doing this week is it's called man guys a subject
Starting point is 00:03:32 that I came up with before I figured out what it was. I just thought the name was funny and so I did go looking it is harder to find those guys since 2014 is over. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think I do know what you mean because it still exists, but it's like not funny anymore Or cool. It's like yeah, it's like kind of sort of scary I guess a lot of the guys who are like I want to go back to when it was like that, you know But really serious about it. They're not goofing at all and that yeah, I know the guys you're talking about Well, we we did we I tried to find the more funny
Starting point is 00:04:11 Side of that rather than the Mano sphere as they roll it Yeah, yeah, cuz like we're not talking about like Andrew Tate and like Joe Rogan like those guys, right? That's not well No, we're not about stand-up comedy guys. No Rogan like those guys, right? That's not well. No, we're not about stand-up comedy guys. No Blush stand-up. Yeah, you should check out his new special. I'm not incredible And he's and he sweats in his breasts for the entire time My wife we're we're driving When we were up in the Pacific Northwest and my wife was like She doesn't pay attention
Starting point is 00:04:46 to a lot of this stuff at all. And she goes, man, Joe Rogan's titties were sweating. I was like, how the fuck did you see Joe Rogan's titties? Well, I was talking about how he should have wore a different shirt. I think. Yeah, he, we all know. Of course he did a famously did his comedy special live. So he was unable to fix his sweating breasts that became very prominent, but it did not detract from a very strong special that did very well and was very well received. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So first off I wanna do, I'm gonna tell you, there is still a place where a man can be a man. You know what I mean? No, don't. Is one place on the internet where the men gather, and that is- Fuck off. The chai.
Starting point is 00:05:33 No. No. What the fuck, man? We've already, I thought I was done. You're the guys can be guys, man. It just, we have to keep calm. I think that's really critical. Yeah, you're gonna want to, because this could be guys man. It just we have to keep calm. I think that's really Yeah, you're gonna want to because this is this gets a little wild
Starting point is 00:05:49 So we'll go ahead first of all I wanted to I almost sent Chris a bacon bouquet Mm-hmm I'm gonna show you a picture of it real quick because like I've been looking at this website all for the past couple days It's called the manly man company no it real quick because like I've been looking at this website all for the past couple days. It's called the Manly Man Company. No. And it's still going.
Starting point is 00:06:09 This is not. No way. Is this still going? If you order this, there's no way it arrives. It arrives and it's got great reviews. It arrives like nine years ago is when it arrives. Wait a second. What is it?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Is it real cooked bacon? I believe it is real cooked bacon. So is there an issue with like or is it like beef? Like not $69 come on You understand the significance of that merit why that's funny Because like are you are you talking talking about how expensive it is? No, I just thought it was kind of expensive. Is there like... Oh, Lord. Okay. Well, that makes sense. Well, there's this sex position where Kai gets a dick sucked and a woman gets her pussy ate right at the same time.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Holy shit. Wait. Or two guys. Hold on, hold on. Wait. I'm just gonna try and... Or two guys or two women can do it, actually. It's one of those sex positions. How easier for two guys or two women can do it actually. This is, it's one of those sex positions. How easy are for two guys or two women? Two guys probably easiest in the side saddle, 69 position would be easier. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And then, but then yeah, and then women can definitely do it as well. I mean, it's a very, very cool, cool position. It definitely is the position that when you're like younger, you're like, wow, this is so fucking cool I'm gonna be doing 69s like pretty much right for the rest of my life No, it's not happening that if you're like like the kind of person who is still like into 60 90 and I feel like that's why it became
Starting point is 00:07:39 such a big joke because like You have like an essentially infantile conception of sex. Like it's like, oh, yeah, I want to be kind of distracted while I'm trying to do something like it's just like, yeah, it's like a German efficiency idea of sexual Congress. Like, yeah, then it's like, just do sex that. Yeah, you could just do sex. So the bacon bouquet. Yeah, please tell us looking for a fun and unique gift for the bacon lover in your life. Look no. So the bacon bouquet. Yeah, please tell us. Looking for a fun and unique gift
Starting point is 00:08:05 for the bacon lover in your life? Look no further than the bacon bouquet. This arrangement of individually packaged thick cut slices of gourmet bacon is the perfect gift for any occasion. The bacon is fully cooked and ready to eat. Well, I don't know if, I don't know if, like what if somebody's child passes away?
Starting point is 00:08:22 I mean, any occasion. Would they, like, if somebody's child passes away? Like any occasion. Would they, like, wait, that's a great question. If there is like a write a card in there, like if you wrote like condolences in the passing of Douglas, like would they just say no? No, I think. Like we're not, we won't do it. Or would they take your money?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, I think it would be, I mean, if they did have the, it would be an automated thing I would imagine probably probably and whatever you wanted on the bacon is fully cooked and ready to eat with no refrigeration required, making it shelf stable and perfect for on the go snacking. Who is on the go snacking on bacon bacon? I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously like I like bacon I like to eat it in like every now and then it's obviously you can't be eating it all the time It's very unhealthy. But yeah, I'm not sure when it became known as being so good like so much better than everything I don't know how it got this sort of marketing push where it came from, you know, I think dude I think chefs right so came from, you know? I think dude, I think chefs, right?
Starting point is 00:09:26 So there's food trends. Yeah, sort of. Food trends, okay. Yeah, I don't know, to me bacon is so associated with like the Reddit, like think geek, internet, geek comedy chive, 2010s, like mustache, bacon and mustaches was like a thing for a while. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the fact that this still exists to me is very strange because
Starting point is 00:09:51 it feels like this should have died out. Like it feels like manly. It feels like good natured manly man is definitely like such a thing that doesn't because I looked all over for like forums and you get to a forum for like manly men or how to be a man. And generally they're either Christian or right wing. Like there's nothing like that, that era you're talking about the 2010s where it was like guys would like, I talked about, I wore a fedora for a period of time and a Derby hat because I thought it was a gentleman's hat. I want, I wanted to was a gentleman's hat.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I wanted to be a gentleman, but I didn't. And your name was Queer. And your name was Queeper. No, my name was Brian at that time. And I wore a, I would wear this, I said, men don't wear baseball caps or hoodie. What about baseball players? But you mean like, just like, mean, it's it's I understand
Starting point is 00:10:45 what you're saying. It's too casual. A real man would be like, it's better to be a little bit more formal, you know, if you're a real man's man. I would wear this Derby and I have a picture of myself and I look at it kind of frequently because I'm wearing a Derby hat. I'm flipping off the camera and I'm wearing a Derby hat. I'm flipping off the camera and I'm wearing a Coheed and Cambria t-shirt. Like what the fuck,
Starting point is 00:11:10 that's not what a gentleman would ever wear. I was walking around in a Derby with a t-shirt jeans on. Yeah, you didn't seem to really get the whole idea of it. Cause you know, it's to dress up or yourself up. If you're just not even gonna bother with the rest of it, then you look like, I guess, like an idiot. I know, I know. And I always think about like, what was I thinking?
Starting point is 00:11:32 And, but I was never, I mean, obviously I don't think anybody would think I was ever like a big time men's rights or because I've been with my wife for so long. I live with my wife and my daughter. I'm only around women like most of the time. So I, and like a lot of my friends growing up were women too. Like I didn't ha I had like guys that were friends, but Chris has heard of the guys like, you know, porno Sean, I mean there wasn't having any deep conversations
Starting point is 00:12:03 they were like really, really like that. They were a nasty group of individuals like the stuff they're talking about was not. We're not joking. He was legitimately in like a room in a violent gang and would do attacks on people. And so, yeah, he it's interesting that he says this now. I've not heard of any of these friends that are women. He's not he's not.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Oh, Tiffany was like my best friend. Is that The only girl I've heard of is the girl that you know, that's a girlfriend. That's a totally different thing. So anyway, it goes, and if you want to really amp up the flavor, simply warm it up for five seconds in the microwave, your pocket or warm water for an intense smell of smokiness and the shine of bacon fresh off the smoker. So that is the bacon bouquet. Now I would leave it at that, but I saw a different, I, when I was looking at this website, I saw this section that says man.quet. Oh, there's more. That's that is cool. Because yeah, bouquets only for women. Obviously, I fucking hate flowers.
Starting point is 00:13:12 They stink so fucking nasty to me as a man. And so it's cool. Like, obviously, I love the smell of bacon. Let's find some other stuff maybe that I love the smell of. So these are the beef jerky flower bouquet. All right. Beautiful. Those are really, you can say what you want. They're really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Aesthetically, they look gorgeous. The fact that they come, is that a pint glass or is that just a? One's a mug. One is just a regular sort of glass. And the other one is a black steel. So steel, that's a man's material too. So the beef jerky flour bouquet, you can get either eight stems or a full dozen.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Just to be just to be clear, because you guys are just listening here. These ones, the bacon one is just bait strips of bacon in a bouquet, whereas this one, the beef jerky has been formed into like, it's kind of a fun little arts and crafts thing, like a cute little arts and crafts thing that some of these manly men did. I can imagine, you know, Butch and Tiny getting together and just sculpting these beautiful little beef turkey flowers, you know? Yeah, that's kind of a problem with this, I feel like. I feel like, okay, maybe the end product is sort of has like this quality to it, the act of making it like it was not assembled by by manly men like it was assembled by like i don't know did they have like elves working in their
Starting point is 00:14:32 shop or like just sort of like little like ladies maybe ladies ladies with smaller hands yeah yeah yeah or like betas or something betas because someone with small hands would be required to do this work you guys aren't seeing, but it is really sort of, I mean, it's very, I mean, it is. Very detail oriented. It is very, like, it is artistic. It is like somebody, whoever's done it has put care into it, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah, so we're looking at- People have bought this as recent as two weeks ago. I find that impossible to believe. Yeah, there's guys that love, there's guys that are still like, I love bacon and beef jerky. Beef jerky has kind of taken over bacon. This guy rules right now who we're looking at too.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He's got the little like chin thing and the mustache, but it's kind of thinner, you know? And he's like, I don't know, he looks like a construction guy, younger sort of construction worker guy. I mean, he's like, I don't know. He looks like a construction guy, younger sort of construction worker guy. I mean, he's just a classic man and he's happy with this bouquet. They also have man hearts. So the bacon bouquet, you can also get the beef bouquet, which is or the meat bouquet, which is half bacon half jerky, which that's probably the one to get I would. But then they also have like a Bloody Mary kit.
Starting point is 00:15:45 You can get a message on a slab of beef jerky. Hold on, hold on. A message on a slab of beef jerky is a pretty good gift. That is a good gift, but hold on. I reject the idea that a Bloody Mary is masculine. I do too, I do too. It's a brunch drink. Like, okay, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:02 If you're Canadian, there's a thing called a Bloody Caesar, which is Bloody Mary with Clamato. Yeah, I think it's just called the Caesar. A Caesar, yeah. My dad used to drink those all the time, and so that maybe personally has an association of masculinity for me. It doesn't even, it doesn't even,
Starting point is 00:16:20 just to be clear though, a Caesar is not a manly drink. Yeah, no, generally speaking, it doesn't. Yeah. But like, a Bloody Mary is a brunch drink. It doesn't even just to be clear though a Caesar is generally speaking. It doesn't But like a Bloody Mary is a brunch drink. That's not Sorry, you can sorry. Sorry sis. You guys lost that one. We got it. Yeah It's ours now it couldn't look cheaper by the way I gotta tell you the world's smallest bottle of Tabasco sauce, like that is so small. And then it's got bacon, rim salt, but it's $129. And it really is just enough for one Bloody Mary. Yeah, and a Tabasco sauce is not manly at all. Scoville's are way low on that.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You'd want to go much higher. Yeah, that's a good point because I feel like there is a, have you done like a hot, I mean, that's not a whole episode. Like you've done hot sauce? We did hot sauce guys earlier. That's why I'm referencing, that's what I'm referencing. Yeah, because that is- Scovilles is how they figure out how hot it is.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, we did it with the dough boys. Yeah, yeah. Because that to me is, I feel like it's part of it. Of like the eating as like pain kind of thing. What you can manage to handle versus what you can enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. So we went to the Chive, I went to the Chive.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yes, I did not. I stay away from it, although I do follow it on Instagram exclusively, because when I run the guys account, the only accounts we follow are the Chive and the chivalry and so I do see a lot of their posts and they're fucking shocking I cannot believe they are shocking have they pivoted to AI yet like are they just posting fake AI pics no they don't they're still doing written pieces but they also have because they're so far behind everything right they don't they don't even know AI yet really like beautiful And so this is an article written by Bob
Starting point is 00:18:12 Nice now I got to give the date for this because I think it's important that people know this was written on March 27th 2024 That would be this year. Okay, and the article is called things that are, quote, normal to men, yet astounding to most women. Okay. So this will be interesting because you can read them out and I'll see if it is it normal for me is it astounding for Merit.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Not only are we going to read them out, but we're going to read the comments. Oh, good. Great. Anyway, Zen Zell says long car rides with another dude, nobody says anything and nobody is mad. No, that's very odd to me. I would never sit in silence with somebody.
Starting point is 00:18:56 In fact, like I know in it's people talk about it sometimes you do comedy, you're like doing a road gig with another comedian and you have nothing to talk about and you just sit there in silence It's like known as a weird and uncomfortable thing even for guys. I think it's kind of gay to talk to another guy though in a car That's true that close. Yeah Depends on what you're talking about. Really? I think you can't talk about nothing Lola Keats as my wife continually asked me, did anyone say anything about your shirt, hair, shoes, et cetera?
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Starting point is 00:19:44 sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, oh, that's a nice shirt. I like that shirt or whatever. Or hey, did you get your haircut or whatever? Oh, yeah. You know, yeah. Sleep would be nice as saying when we were dating, I don't think my wife had seen this is crazy. Had seen a quote grower before or maybe even hadn't heard of the concept. She seemed quite surprised the first time
Starting point is 00:19:59 she saw me go from flaccid to hard. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh figure it out. And it's like, oh my God, what's happening? What is this thing? What do you even do with this? It's harder, but it doesn't like get bigger, right? Right. No, but just the idea of him, his wife just being so sort of shocked
Starting point is 00:20:36 at how small his placid penis was. And then he being like, excuse me, you ignorant, you ignorant, it's like you've never heard of the concept of a grower, you know? So good to hear, I love this guy. What's that guy's name? That guy's name was Sleep Would Be Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Impossible Bear says, I went to a girl's house recently and she and her roommates were shocked that I didn't share my location with my friend Oh, well, that's a different thing. I think that's what has to do with sexual assault feeling feeling unsafe So yeah that yeah, that is that one wait you got that one is I feel like they would not have no No one would be shocked by that because it's kind of accepted that yeah accepted, but it's not shocking But it's like of accepted that. Yeah, it's accepted, but it's not shocking, but it's like that. They are making it. It is real. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They're not sort of delving into the reason behind that. Right. Sentax and says, yeah, for that matter, two guys could spend the afternoon together, have a grand time, come home and have their respective wives be absolutely bewildered that they didn't learn anything about what's going on in the other guy's life? Well, it depends on the context of it. If it's somebody that I see regularly or whatever. But yeah, if I wouldn't like caught up with a friend
Starting point is 00:21:55 that I haven't seen in a long time and I came back, Ariel would be like, what are they up to? And if I was like, because I would ask them, I would ask them about their life. I would talk to them about their life. I have my glubby glubby says, reminds me of when my I told my friend that men don't sleep in the same bed during sleepovers and she goes, they don't. They do sometimes now.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah, I'm sure sometimes now. Yeah, they didn't when I was growing up. Men. Okay. First of all, men and sleepovers like how often are our adult men having sleepovers? It's only a drunken do you know what I mean? Okay, first of all men and sleepovers like how often are our adult men having sleepovers? It's only a drunken do you know what I mean? Like oh, I passed out at your house or whatever like after like a night of drinking perhaps. I think that's the only thing I can But this is a very weird one. Okay
Starting point is 00:22:39 GW wind bond says I'm 39. I started down an entirely new career path in mid January. I've had horrible imposter syndrome since day one, but the new job feels good. My boss who happens to be a woman sent me the nicest most complimentary email thanking me for being such a good addition to the team. And I sincerely cried because in all my years in the workforce, nobody has ever appreciated me so much. I imagine to her it's just one of those things
Starting point is 00:23:08 a good boss does. Hey, my employee did a good job. I should tell him. I sent it to my dad and when he asked me how the new job was going, even he cried out of pride. Men don't get compliments and when we do, we really need it. What? It's kind of beautiful, right?
Starting point is 00:23:22 That's pretty beautiful. Yeah. Well, when we get to the comments. Oh boy. Wait, those aren't comments? These are the article. We're reading the article. How is this an article?
Starting point is 00:23:33 It's just a bunch of people saying things. Exactly. They're saying that guys don't compliment each other. Yeah, yeah. Not as much as women. I think that is true. Sure. But still, yeah, I think women lift each other up more. Their friends and stuff, probably.
Starting point is 00:23:50 But let's see what the commenters have to say. Had to meet up with the boys for hours. Not a single photo was taken. All right. That's actually kind of true. This guy goes struggling to do something in public and nobody coming over to assist you. Kind of sad. What? Huh? Like, it depends what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I got like changing a tire, I think, is the type of thing. Oh, I do listen. Listen, if you're a guy's guy, you got to know how to change. Yeah. What the fuck? You need help? And buddy, figure it out yourself. I mean, if that's what you want to be thought of as right. And then you're like, nobody helped me change my tire.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's like, well, why don't you just be normal? I feel like the compensation there for men is that you maybe don't get the direct help. But what you do get is the kind of older guy who doesn't have anything to do coming over and just going, changing a tire. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. It's like that's a classic form of interaction. Like, I feel like that's beautiful. And it's I kind of don't like it when people come and try to help
Starting point is 00:24:54 me change the tire, by the way. Like, I feel like they're looking at me like, I don't know how to change a tire. Yeah, I think that that's a bad example isn't really like if you're clearly struggling with it, maybe maybe but I just think too Yeah, don't be so reliant on others if you're if you're a man's man, you know I'm glad we got I'm glad we have a woman because this guy goes that we don't socialize talk bond with other guys in the bathroom No talking in the bathroom. You go in you take care of business wash your hands and get out No standing next to another dude at the urinal
Starting point is 00:25:25 unless you have no choice. This is good, because this is like old school kind of idea. I like this. So what is going on in the bathroom? TV has lied to me a lot, because I feel like I see a lot of conversations at urinals in film and television. And obviously, there's a lot of comedy stuff of like,
Starting point is 00:25:43 oh, don't talk to me. But then it's like, there's a lot of high power of like, oh, don't talk to me. But then it's like, there's like a lot of high power business deals going on in the men's bathroom. As I understand it. Which is, you know, a problem in the workplace. But like the whole talking in the bathroom thing, it's like, strangers don't like regularly talk to each other.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's like, there's like the incidences where like, okay, at a bar, if someone is crying in the bathroom, then that is like a, oh, are you okay? Kind of thing. But like, unless you go in the bathroom, like with your friend, you're not usually like striking up a conversation with a total stranger. I think this is just a men don't go to the bathroom with-
Starting point is 00:26:18 Together. Yeah, with their friends. And again, is that again, it have to do with, sometimes maybe a safety thing for a man. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, it's just, yeah, that's the thing I think that- Again is that again have to do with some sometimes maybe a safety thing Yeah, it's just yeah, that's the thing I think that yeah, well same time and Yeah, that is I guess a more female thing. But what are you guys talking about in there? Let's go to the comments here, okay, this guy goes, how's his names used to be?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Talk tank. How's about going to target to buy one thing and leaving with one thing? That's I can't do. I sometimes will get more things. I'm a bit of a shopper myself. Well, Buddha replies to him and goes shopping. We know what we want. Go in and buy it and leave. Well, is it true now?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Because this is something, though, that I have like her in all seriousness, like obviously there's a lot of silly stuff being put out on the board. But like all jokes aside, I have heard this and you could probably help me out with this matter. Is it true, though, that women do be shopping? Do you know, like compared? Yeah, I feel like I've heard that. Do you know? Like, comparatively. Yeah, I feel like I've heard that too. I don't remember where. Do you do a lot of shopping?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Like, are you somebody, are you shoe shopping? Do you do clothes shopping? Do you do, like, hair straightener shopping? The thing is, most of that stuff is online now, at least for me. Like, I don't know. Like, yeah, I'm looking at the real real and like, Depop and stuff, but that's all online and
Starting point is 00:27:46 I Don't know Harris straighteners Brian One hair straightener, it's not as big a deal for me since I cut my hair off But I do own one We've heard a lot of women have a ton of them a ton of hair straighteners One commenter that at one single time. His wife asked him why he has so many guitars.
Starting point is 00:28:12 No, it's one of those cases where someone is blowing the averages out. Like, hair straightener Sally shouldn't be counted. It's shoes, though, for a lot of women. Shoes, I know. My mom growing up, she was really in, like, she had a really, a lot of women shoes. I know like my mom growing up, she was really like she had like a really a lot. We weren't super rich or anything. You were just like an Italian and she had just a lot of shoes. You know, I have more than my wife.
Starting point is 00:28:35 The shoes thing is interesting to me too because it feels like something that has kind of changed over the past like 20 years where like I have some guy friends who have like way way more pairs of shoes than me and I'm not a big shoes person but like the growth of sneaker heads has kind of like changed that whole dynamic a lot. Yeah, I've gotten into this matching thing where I want everything to match. So I have to own I have the hat, the watch band, the shirt, you know what I mean? I want everything to have a matching color. Just colors, though, not branding necessarily. You just need color matching.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You know. And then Fedora Dave replies and goes, women, quote, shop. Men go and get it. Oh, yeah. Andrew says, I recall in the 80s, I needed jeans. 40 years ago. In the 80s, I needed jeans. I went 40 years ago. Ladies, I needed jeans. I went to the mall straight to the.
Starting point is 00:29:29 He does not have a lot of exciting memory. That one is still there. You know what I mean? Yeah, like that hasn't been pushed out by like any number of other things. Man, you got to get rid of that jeans memory, dude. That's crazy. I went to the mall straight to the men's section in pennies, then to the checkout, then back to the car in and out in less than 10 minutes. So this is so again I was going to say wait maybe something extraordinary happened during this trip and like made it.
Starting point is 00:30:01 No, no, no. This guy's literally has a memory of going to JCPenney's. Is that what he's saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bought a pair of jeans. Bought a pair of jeans. He's speed running jeans, yeah. In and out in 10 minutes. How many times has he pulled that?
Starting point is 00:30:12 World record. In and out. He probably said that so many times. Yeah, yeah. There's like a shopping story or like a thing about JCPenney or jeans or anything. He's like, oh, buddy, fucking had to get jeans one time, fucking in and out. Fucking minutes back home on my God couch in the new jeans. TV, Paul says, I've said this multiple times here. Women don't understand when a guy sitting on the couch watching TV
Starting point is 00:30:38 and they ask what you're thinking about, you reply, nothing. She doesn't believe or understand how that's possible. But it's not possible it's yeah it's just don't you don't know how to articulate your inner state which is a common thing that like a lot of people have but like you don't want to or you don't want to yeah like all the times i don't want to get into it it's like complicated it's like i don't know i don't want to like start unraveling this i'm thinking then I'll have to explain that and it's just easier to say nothing, you know Well pad 20 says same thing when I'm reading she just cannot let me read she feels the need to talk to me I swear some days I have to read the same paragraph 20 times. Well, that's chomping and that is an issue
Starting point is 00:31:22 Chomper then you got to get those fucking divorce papers written up because it's no point. You got to read. Yeah. That's the same goes for if you're a fucking woman and your husband's a chopper. Get out of there. I'm a chopper kind of with my wife. Like I guess she sits down to read.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I'm like, what are you doing? You mad at me? No, you know. I mean, I think everyone can agree that, you know, Katie would have 100 reasons to but this for whatever reason, she loves you so much. And she's not gonna leave in spite of your job. Men will put time aside to switch off and do nothing. Women see that as time to be filled.
Starting point is 00:32:03 No, I don't think so. I don't know Huh? This is weird ones where like we get into like when people get really deep into the stereotypes You're like wait, is it that or is it the opposite? Yeah, like to me the the if I had to say like what is the stereotype of it like use of time? I'd be like, oh men always want to be getting things done You know, I gotta do a project and women are just like I'm gonna take a bath and like and it, like use of time? They're like, oh, men always wanna be getting things done. And you know, oh, gotta do a project. And women are just like, I'm gonna take a bath.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And it's like, there's no association, I feel like, in reality. It's completely like. Yeah, that's totally wrong. This person on the chive message board talking about manliness seems ill and warm. Yeah, we need to go in and correct them, yeah. Well, I will say this too,
Starting point is 00:32:43 is like, some of these things are personal things to one. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. This person goes, nor does she's under, well, this guy goes, that's what I'm reminded of a few items from my honey do list. Actually it's more of a honey do three volume set. What is it?
Starting point is 00:33:02 What is a honey do list? Like honey, could you do list like honey do blah blah blah I assume like yeah it's like a list that wives right your bitch wife is telling you to do all this stuff like he's like the windows cracked you got to fix the window you know that was fire yeah yeah and you know this isn't these chive guys come on you know what mean? You don't have a wife for first off. That's true. He says, nor does she understand why I'm cool. Having her friends over gives my poor ears arrest. I sometimes think that they are allergic to silence. And
Starting point is 00:33:35 if there's a gap in conversation, they are compelled to fill it. Some of these seem like their wives want to like talk to them. So, but she's saying, it sounds like his wife had her friends over and they were talking. And he loves it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he likes it when her friends come over because they're talking to each other and not him. Oh, okay. That's a good relationship.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think that ideally you want to be with someone that you like to talk to. Yeah. Yeah, Spike the Christmas Narwhal says, Ideally you want to be with someone that you like to talk to. Yeah. Yeah. Spike the Christmas narwhal says compulsive communication. Like a radio station, you can't have dead hair. I have to grind the podcast to a halt for a second because narwhals are like the third element of like the bacon mustache nar reddit, trifecta. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And the fact that we just have a narwhal sighting in the wild here is like. A narwhal is so fucking manly, it is insane because of course we all know why. I mean the horn is a penis basically, right? The horn ain't no pussy, that's for sure. Well the chive is really like a museum. Yeah, I'm realizing that.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah, it's like kind of walking through a museum of like the worst Internet stuff for, you know, 10 years ago. This guy goes, I just want to at the aquarium in Vancouver, anyone who went to the Vancouver Aquarium, there was a big like fake narwhal when you'd walk downstairs into the beluga place. And so everyone in Vancouver knows that narwhal when you'd walk downstairs into the beluga place. And so everyone in Vancouver knows that narwhal. And that was the first thing I thought of as soon as I became age enough. I was like, that looks like a pecker.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, I know it's spiraled. Yeah. Coming out of the head. It's yeah. These next two are are really. These are two guys having an individual experience that may be others. This guy goes, my girlfriend went up with me at a bar. I was talking to a buddy when she came in. As we were leaving to go to dinner, she asked me how long I knew him for. I said, I was not sure 10, 12 years, maybe she asked what his name is. And I said, John, she asked for his last name. And I just stared at her.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Why would I know his last name? Not dating. I'm just having a drink with him. Nice guy. Never forgets when it's his turn to buy. And then Mr. Bill replies and goes, the only reason a group of guys knows each other, knows the other guy's last names is because there are two plus of that guy's first name in the group.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And even then they'll prefer a nickname over last name. So it is not manly to know people's last names. The fuck? So I, I mean, I guess like if it's your friend though, I know my friends last names. Yeah, you do. Most of them. I don't know birthdays. I'm that's the thing. I'm because they're numbers, but like a name, you usually, even like most coworkers, you know, I've known their last names if we've worked together for any amount of time.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Brian, do you know my last name? Don't say it. Oh, I do know your real last name. James is my middle name, so my last name. I pay you. Of course I know your last name. Oh, yeah. Well, I used to get paid as,
Starting point is 00:36:44 the people would pay me as Chris James and I would, they would, the bank would, because it's my middle name, they would usually cash it, but it did become a problem. Here's an interesting one from sorry worldliness52609 goes, my female friends don't roast each other like I do with my friends. It's all in good fun, but I can't joke with them like I do my male friends. Oh yeah. Amen to that. We all guys. What happened with Kill Tony?
Starting point is 00:37:08 We all love Kill Tony and Kill Tony Hinchcliffe. Shout out to Kill Tony Hinchcliffe. And it's so funny that they put Kill Tony on the president thing. Like, as somebody who's watched Kill Tony, like a show like Tony Hinchcliffe is so unfunny and everyone who watched that even hates him But it's like to be fair. Yeah, he did have to follow the national anthem. So that's hard That's a tough gig, you know But at that show especially like at a Trump thing because that's like one of the highlights for those people
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, they go wild. He the I think that the highlights for those people. Yeah, they go wild. I think that the show's a really, The Kill Tony is interesting. It's like a spectacle. It's like an open mic in front of like millions of people. It's like wild, you know? But just the idea of somebody seeing Kill Tony Hinchcliffe, who is by the way, I've said it many times.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I've never seen anyone bomb so hard in my entire life in the Vancouver Comedy Festival at the Rio Theater. He's playing to a full theater and getting zero laughs for 24 minutes. It was remarkable. I've really never seen it. There was a guy who was a local radio host who went up and got bigger laughs. If the presidential people were there that night, they would have picked the local radio guy to go up. But just to put him on stage in that setting is so fucking funny because he's obviously gonna do that If you know him and know anything, he's gonna do that every single time
Starting point is 00:38:31 Vasectomist said Okay, I love that right it sounds like the name of a transformer who's Like turns into a scissor He like turns into a scissor or a scalpel. It's different. But the guy goes, yeah, they have absolutely no sense of humor capacity for roasting. They always think there's something behind the insult besides humor. I think they might, they might show like love in a different way. That is true in the, in the sense of like guys will rib each other and they'll like,
Starting point is 00:39:03 I don't think it happens so much with women and I don't really love it myself. I'm not somebody who's been really big into like, we never really did that huge in my RUBA friends, you know? But I definitely see, I see people who do that and they do it lovingly, like genuinely. It's like the way that they're so fucking, you know, like unable to connect with their emotions in any way
Starting point is 00:39:28 that that's the only way they can express it. And it's like, it is kind of nice in a weird way, you know, when they can do it. Here's Stubby says, yeah, sometimes I have a, this guy's hardcore, you guys are gonna love it. Yeah, sometimes I have a choice, say something funny that's going to irrationally upset her or deprive the world of my comedy genius It's not really a choice at all. You have to use those zingers or that part of your brain will atrophy
Starting point is 00:39:54 That's so true Malcolm X. Why what merit have you ever done any? Stand-up comedy any stand-up Jesus God. Um,up comedy? Any stand-up comedy? Jesus, God. Have I ever done any stand-up comedy? No. So, you haven't done any roasts or anything like that? No, not in a professional setting. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of...
Starting point is 00:40:18 People have said that when you got the stand-up comedy bug and when it bites you, you can't really turn it off. So, sometimes it's like, oh, you can't really turn it off. So sometimes it's like, Oh, you're gonna be roasting people when you're on stage. Oh, okay. Well, what if the world is my stage? And what do you say to that? And is, you know, when we're the last people who can actually tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:37 What if the entire world is the audience in your Netflix crowd work special, basically? And God, I would like to see more of those. But and I'm talking about just, yeah, I'm not allowed to talk about. I'm talking about just is hypothetical. I'm not allowed to talk about my standup anymore. Yeah, nobody wants to hear it. Right. Anyway, this this we're got we're down to like the last three comments here
Starting point is 00:41:02 from there. They're responding to we don't really talk about our problems unless we need a solution and to understand the mental block, stopping us from solving our problems. So they're saying that, that we don't talk about our problems. Okay. Which is a healthy thing, I guess. And Brad goes, yep. If you give me a solution to my problem and it gets fixed and I won't be able to bitch about it for the next three months. My mom was great at this one. Then three months later
Starting point is 00:41:29 when quote she comes up with your solution fixes the problem and wonders why she didn't think of it sooner. So this guy has a, Hmm. Hey, listen, as a guy with a crazy relationship with his mom, I get it. You know, stuff he says, yup. Now I ask whinging or do you want it fixed? Whinging. So this is a Brit UK UK man confirmed. That is such a call. I love I love that term whinging. I really do. It's one of my favorite British terms. It just means complaining for anyone. Do you think that is like, like it's phrased terribly, obviously, but that is like honestly a useful thing to ask
Starting point is 00:42:10 if you're talking to someone who is like going through some shit, it's like, okay, what can I do? Like, do you want to just like get this out and I can be like, that sounds like it's shitty or do you want me to like try and brainstorm some solutions with you? So like this guy has almost hit on something except he's framing it in like,
Starting point is 00:42:25 are you just being a bitch? Or you want me to solve some fucking problems for you? This might be the best we can hope for from the kid. I though he might be his like furthest form and I think, you know, we hope that he can evolve. But yeah, he's like, he's reaching. It's just something. He's like got it somewhat.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like he's doing the right thing. He just doesn't know why really yeah This guy goes that leads her to saying I'm fine and no sex for a week Well, that's this is wait. How old is he? There's no sex for a week at my I'm fine with that He's always like 25 no no no, but that's the thing no there's no way this guy is under 40 and like all of this shit feels like it's just people like reading their lives through the lens of like sitcoms And like to something like we all do this, right?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Everyone is like uses media to do this but like this is like, oh, yeah I saw i'm married with children in the 80s and like that's what it's like and like And has just been projecting that sort of like onto his life the whole time It fucked his life up Yeah All that all the stuff he watched as a kid all those movies that he quotes all that stuff It totally fucked his whole life up because he's just this weird guy now that never talks to anybody
Starting point is 00:43:41 And again, I've talked about this. I used to be a real mean guy I would say oh you don't say yeah you should be a really really mean guy and and I went to college and I was reading you got more knowledge right I did get more knowledge and then he figured out how to be more mean and like a very specific way in a postmodern like academic way. So in sociology major, I had to read this book called Heatwave and it was about like a heat wave in Chicago that happened where a ton of people died, like just hundreds or maybe even thousands of people died at this. And they were like going through the demographics of the people who died in this heat wave. And they said the highest demographic was, uh, old white guys because
Starting point is 00:44:27 they don't talk to anybody and they are mostly alienated from their family and friends. And I was like, yeah, that's a, uh, that I don't want to be that. And that's why I started to like kind of improve my, uh, improve my disposition around people. Like reading that really made me like, oh my God, this could be happening to me. You know, I chased a lot of people off insulting them. Like, you know, I had some friends who I was super mean to and I'm sure they just didn't want to hang out with me
Starting point is 00:44:56 anymore because I was always insulting them. So why were you insulting? What age was that? In my twenties. And why were you like, you were just unhappy yeah and you know I was listening to Opie and Anthony and all that stuff I was trying to be funny equals mean kind of thing yeah yeah yeah so you were you were doing it like you were think you were trying to be a funny guy kind of yeah
Starting point is 00:45:18 and you know what when you think like that thing we're like this is more of a 2000s, maybe early 2010s thing where like as a guy, you were supposed to say I'm an ass. Like it's still kind of that. Dennis Leary kind of like. Yeah. Dennis Leary. I'm a huge bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:38 By the way, Louis CK by the way, just I do want to give proper credit to Louis CK for he actually had that joke stolen by Dennis Leary, you know Wow, well see but in a sense that does make Dennis Leary even more of an asshole. Yeah, totally had no shit It's like he's like who's the oh, oh really? Yeah, you're the asshole. You're the asshole and you you came up with that Yeah, right. How about the guy stole it from you? I'm gonna go with him. Thank you and so it's like, uh, uh, you, it was, there was a lot of currency and being an asshole for a long time. I always blame
Starting point is 00:46:12 like South park and like family guy, like kind of started at the same time and had that same start. Like, you know, you still see people say, I'm a sarcastic bastard. And then like, yeah. And, and, and the stuff they say they do, you're like, well, that's just mean. That's that's like a nasty thing to say to somebody, you know, please know the audio of me saying I want to give credit to Louis ZK. I'll put it on the sound. Well, isolate that. You not, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Here's the last two of this. I dutifully compliment my wife of 20 plus years on a daily basis of something Her hair clothes work related or otherwise she gets a compliment not hollow or meaningless But just something to let her know I noticed whatever the compliment was about When I mentioned that men don't get compliments it thoughtfully took her a back for a moment, then she agreed. I'm still waiting for one her back for a moment, then she agreed. I'm still waiting for one. Okay, so this guy's weird because it really, it really seemed like, oh, this guy is really sweet and he's doing this. What a sweet guy who's like, Hey, these are not hollow either. I really believe them and I want to make sure she knows
Starting point is 00:47:17 how important she is and how wonderful she is. And then it turned out where he's just like, where's mine? And then it turned out where he's just like, where's mine? Where's my compliment? And I'm still waiting. And I'm still, well, I think it's, yeah, she agreed with you on it, though. But yeah, I feel bad for this guy. He just he just wants a compliment. He does. He does.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And our final in this thing from Wompire. This I think the listeners will love. I think Merritt and Chris are gonna love it. This is a great post There's only one scenario where it's okay for a man to cry You're in your bed Two sexy chivettes wearing lingerie are taking off your clothes. Oh God And arguing over which one gets to do you first when they remove your underwear the What's going on? What's up? This guy apparently, he's having sex with two Chivettes. Yeah, yeah, no, I got that. And his wife is watching and filming it. The Chivettes are the women of the Chive.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And they're under the, when you go on the Chive, there's a tab that says hotness. Is it like a page five girls kind of thing? We don't really know if they're like, we don't know if they're paid by the chive or if they're just like sort of curated off The internet we don't we can't really figure out what the story is behind the chivet They're often scantily clad they're often Next to nothing but never nothing right? Bikini girls and like the Sun or whatever right just. Does the sun still do that? I don't know. Yeah, they're they're very they're very provocatively dressed.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And some of them are, you know, I'll say it. Some of them are quite they have quite large breasts off the time. See that to me, anyone who's still like on that train is like weirdly kind of of admirable. I don't know, admirable is maybe not the right word, but it's just with the availability of just the most fucked up intense pornography
Starting point is 00:49:35 you could possibly imagine on your fucking phone if you're still going to the chive and looking at cloth, titty pics. And jerking off to it. Like, and that's the thing that gets you horny. Like, that's all you need. It is. Right. It is quaint. I kind of my heart, you know, goes out to you or like, I'm just I salute you.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Right. Because like, I don't know. Great work in a sense. Yeah, honestly, it's like sweet. It is sweet. It is a guy. It's like I was thinking recently about because we covered this Rover. Rover's morning glory on Shocktober recently. And he does a thing every year
Starting point is 00:50:15 where they make a hot bikini babes calendar. Well, it's just discontinued as of 2016. Not doing it now. Well, no, he still makes the calendar. He just just don't do the event. Okay. But but like I was just thinking like, you know, there are still guys that hang bikini babe calendars in their garage, and they're just super they would say babes.
Starting point is 00:50:37 They like that whole thing. Because when I was a kid, when I was like a teenager, I used to hang out this pool hall, and every like, you know, few months or something, they would have a group of bikini babes come in and like sign autographs. And guys would line up to get the autographs. And they'd just be walking around. Were they famous people?
Starting point is 00:50:57 No, not at all. They were just women with bikinis that had like these pictures. Wait, this is like a weird inversion of the signing the boobs thing. Of the women with the boobs are signing your stuff. Like what? Yeah, why? When did you grow up?
Starting point is 00:51:15 This is a whole collection of like- Roast Fort Ohio. Just a bunch of fucking signatures from women who are dressed in bikinis. Like, what are you gonna do with that? The bikinis that, like, where they pull down and it just covers their nipples, like the little thin thing. They'd have those.
Starting point is 00:51:33 They always, the pictures, you know, where they're all sweaty. Oh, pictures of them, okay, that kinda makes sense. Pictures of them, they're signing. I see, okay, that makes a little bit more sense, but still. It's still very weird. They were strippers, okay, that's a that day makes a little bit more sense, but still still very weird They were they were strippers presumably or something like that, right? They weren't cuz they didn't get they didn't take clothes off or anything
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, no, not like cool at the pool hall But I'm presuming they were like or they were adult actors or something like that, you know what I mean? So I think because it's this thing about like and I just saw a poster of this somewhere at a what at an antique shop I was at recently, but there was this period of time where the biggest fucking thing in the world for, for men like this was the Swedish bikini team. And uh, that is this, that's the vibe you're going for or the Barbie twins. I don't know if you would remember the Barbie twins. I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like stuff like that. It was just these pictures of these, these, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:30 big breasted women in bikinis and they would come to your bar and they would, you could bring your camera with, cause it's pre cell phone. You could bring your camera with you and take a picture with them and stuff like that. Yeah. Okay. That's kind of that I can see. So, so the guy takes a picture with them and stuff like that. Yeah, okay, that's kind of, that I can see. So some guy takes a picture with them and then he has the picture and he can do whatever he wants with that afterwards. But it feels so weird that it was a thing that happened and it feels like something that could not happen now. Like it's just, nobody would show up to that.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I mean, the closest thing now is like guys who go to the AVNs to do that. Because that is the kind of guy, because I know a lot of people who work in the industry and like, you know, fans will go. But that's, even that's a porn site. So that's somebody that is, I guess, like, yeah, that could happen more because they're they become celebrities definitely in their world, right? So but yeah, if it was just like local bikini babes will be signing autographs here I think it would be interesting to see the kind of people that would show up to that Local bikini babes in your area like yeah
Starting point is 00:53:42 They're just like people like who like live there in the area is how I imagine it. Like the one someone's like works at the gas station or whatever. And then she's going to come in her bikini and sign autographs. But I'm sure that's not what it was. Yeah. So the next thing I have here is from the Facebook group called the Art of Manliness. That's holy shit. That is that's a Maddox joint. That's a Maddox X mission, the greatest page on the internet. I don't know if you remember. No, I don't. I love that.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Maddox was a guy who, I mean, he's still alive. He's still around. I had a weird like he has had a weird few years. I think he follows me on Twitter, which is like one of the weirdest things in the world because he was basically a celebrity to me, went to me and my friends when we were like in high school. He ran an early website that I mean, like late nineties where he would just do like the stuff we were talking about before, like being mean as like a bit, um, like make fun of like kids art, um, do crude art of his own. And like, it got really popular for a while, like crazy popular for a site just made by some random guy. And then he was like, his persona was like,
Starting point is 00:54:54 I'm like a manly pirate, cool guy. And then he started a site and a book called The Art of Manliness. And like, I don't know if he's even involved in that anymore, but like, I think a bunch of people started writing for that site. As like, here's't know if he's even involved in that anymore, but like, I think a bunch of people started writing for that site. As like, here's how to be a man.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Is it satirical? Semi-satirical? Like, I feel like it started off that way, and then it kind of became like, winking, but still like, no, it is about like, how to be a man, like how to. Yeah, it is. They might be winking, but the people reading it
Starting point is 00:55:25 are certainly not getting that. You know what I mean? Like the people reading it are like, so this is good from an older episode, the art of mailing this goes, here's why you want a wood pellet grill slash smoker. You have a smoker, what do you like the smoke? So that's, I'm not gonna read the article.
Starting point is 00:55:43 The article just says, because you can smoke meat. Like basically, so I go to the comments and Nicholas goes, I would postulate that charcoal and ceramic grill is more manly, requires more skill, and delivers better outcomes to those willing to learn to do it well. My. Green egg for me. Because fucking hate it already, of course.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You know, the postulate like any like genuinely, if anybody starts talking to me like that and starts using those fucking kind of words, you know, you call me a dummy or whatever, all you want. I just tune out immediately. I'm just not like I don't I don't care for whatever you're about to say. I don't care what it is, even if it's like, hey, there's a fucking thing, train about to hit you. It's almost like, hey, I postulate that a train I'd be dead.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You know, that's yeah. Jeremy says Art of Manliness should be doing an article about the Weber kettle plug in pellet smokers, timers, dials, temp settings. Learn to use a grill before I would spend the money on anything like this, I'd get a master built electric smoker, Weber Kettle or off sick offset stick burner any day. So this guy's set. So that sounds like some real traditional bullshit, you know? Like, but I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:00 But yeah, this guy's basically saying like real men know how to fucking cook without all the doodads and doodaddies and shit. Yeah. Well, Iggy, I'm going to read you Iggy's now. And it's interesting. This is the last one of these. He goes, as a straight man, I do not want to pellet whatever that is. Pellets are for gerbils. My smoker is 900 pounds of one quarter to three eight steel and it burns large solid pieces of oak and pecan so straight man So he is
Starting point is 00:57:31 He's kind of a little bit. He's kind of goofing a little bit. I feel like like as a straight man He's kind of he's not being totally serious about the pellets being gay. I don't think I Yeah, he would have to be joking right like be that anyone could say that unironically is like, maybe they do, but I don't believe it. The pellets can't be considered gay. Yeah, well, the next article I found was iron your jeans, partner.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So, the art of manliness thinks that you should iron your jeans. That sounds the opposite of manly. I don't know, again thinks that you should iron. That sounds opposite of manly. I don't know. Again, that sounds like that. Let's listen. And I'm speaking only as a traditional male here, not as myself. That sounds like ladies work. I mean, my my my stepfather ironed everything. He ironed really. Yeah, I know that that that like a generation like grandfather, like, you know, two generations back, I think they were all about that.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Ironing everything, you know, I think ironing has gotten less popular across the board. No one wants to fuck with iron anymore. Yeah. Maybe like, you know, I have a steamer if I need to really straighten something out, but it's easier to use than an iron. But I wish I had a steamer if I need to really straighten something out. But it's easier to use than an iron. But like, I wish I had a steamer. I'll sometimes honestly, like I'll use like a steam out of like a kettle or something to try. Yeah. Hang it up. Take a shower.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah, that's what I wish I had a steamer. I do like the idea of having a sear. But I mean, listen, this is a classic man thing, but I just toss it in the fucking dryer for three minutes. You know, if I have to, you know, that's it. Well, Dan says, sure, partner, I'll get right on that after I get a manicure and a perm. Wow. There we are. Damn. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Feisty. Red says anything that quote hip young crowd does is probably a bad idea. Well, anything that is so any sort of progress of anything is going to be considered bad. Boring, you know, boring. Armando goes to talk in their gene ironing and their all that goes wearing iron jeans is like a drink cafe latte. Change my mind. No, wait, I don't care. OK, finally, he says, yes, Martha Stewart. He was sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It seems like he was worried about someone changing his mind. Right. I mean, he's like, go ahead, change my mind. He's like, on second thought. Not that no, no, wait, I don't want to. The idea that I could like it is that one again, right? I stepped on it. I want to hear it. Because wearing ironed jeans is like a drink. No, no, sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:11 The one after the one that was. Yeah. Yes, Martha Stewart. Lol. OK. Oh, boy. So I did go to a website and it was down yesterday because I really wanted to do this to Chris. It's a website where you can submit people to have their man card revoked. That kicks ass. Wait what did they do? Did they mail you a card and then ask you to mail it back? No it's email you the guy and they posted in person that's what we're gonna read is some of the man card revocation.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I see okay. But you're saying that this shut down? No it just wasn't working yesterday because I wanted to submit Chris because he made fun of my incredibly masculine wallet. Oh, yeah. The worst wallet. Oh, you have one of those steel wallets. Oh, it's no that wallet sucks that I would never. I did. Yeah, but it's manly.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Merritt has a lot like the one I have. It has like a big bump on it with the air tag and like and like but it's manly though. Merrick, he has a wallet. It has like a big bump on it with an air tag and like a, it's absolutely bizarre. It looks like a small PlayStation. That's what many people have said. Like a small place. There it is, there it is. All right, let me see this.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It does, okay, I, it does look a little like a PlayStation 4. Stop covering the air tag. Stop covering, he's covering the air tag. No, from the side, it does look a little like a PlayStation 4. Stop covering the air tag. He's covering the air tag. No, from the side it does look a little like a PlayStation 4. I mean, I'm sure it works. Okay, that's cool. No, no, no, no. See, what you have to understand though, Merit, is what he just did was he pushes a button and then his cards flip up. So he only paid $35 for this.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That's a big mistake. If you're going to buy a $35 wallet, it should not have any mechanisms in it. If it has any mechanisms in it, it's gonna break down for sure. So it was a poor purchase. But I do wanna say, is there a possibility that when you submit a man card revocation on somebody that simply cannot have their man card revoked,
Starting point is 01:02:03 that it just shuts the whole site down. That's possible. Consider that. Well, Jean submitted Jack as the revokee and he goes, a reason for revocation potential revokee who is married with a kid posted a selfie on Instagram of his outfit. Being British is no excuse for trying to start his own quote, hot girl summer. 25 people said yes, revoke his man card to said no. So this is so people are it's cool that people can they're able to be funny. This is kind of a place for people to be funny.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Some of it is some people actually also call out like transphobia or like abusive partners on there which I think that you shouldn't do that is that's an extremely weird venue to do that oh my god this guy's an abusive piece of shit beat up my sister it's like what the so you go somewhere else with that just to to be clear, though, so you think that guy should be able to keep his man card, Brian? I don't know. I mean, obviously, there should be other there should be other. That OK, but like the this. Yeah, this is insane. I'm seeing one now that's like has a mugshot on it.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And it says man card revoke for the following reasons, making two false police reports, stalking Quantrell Bishop on Twitter. That was my next one. What are you talking about? This is like this is one of those sites where like that we just kind of forget exists because everyone is just on like three or four websites now. But there are these like you lift up a rock and like in the woods and there's these weird little ecosystems of people just interacting on sites
Starting point is 01:03:43 that like no one should have been on in like 20 years. You use the child is like the biggest of those, but this, this is a community and it's very strange that it's like, is there, cause so when I used to work at the call center, I get to work every day. I'd read Sean baby.com. I'd check in with the PRP with a Pimp Rock Palace, which was a site for new metal news. I checked def tones.com corn.com, LimpBiscuit.com. What was the, what sites were, uh, was the guy who you got the job at, uh, at the call center. What was the safe thing? I wouldn't know what side he was jacking his penis. Ryan got a guy at a job at the call center and then the guy got fired for jerking off to
Starting point is 01:04:27 born at the call center and then Brian had to keep working. It didn't reflect on me. I don't think nobody ever said like, hey, you basically jacked that. Oh yeah. No, I'm sure you never heard his man card. You've never heard his that conversation, but I'm sure it happened, Brian. Arka says, you're no longer entitled to be considered a man since you have relinquished all thoughts, actions and mannerisms to the control of a modern day Delilah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 If you pursue this path more than more, your locks may get cut. So this guy is sounds like he's whipped. Whoop shh. Whoop shh. Like you, Chris. Whoop shh. Brian, you're so fucking whipped, dude. Brian came to Vancouver with his wife
Starting point is 01:05:13 and his wife's like, Brian, can we actually go to like a different restaurant? Because this food, I'm a vegetarian and this restaurant has no vegetarian options. Brian's just like, I guess so. Like whoop shh. Whoop shh. Wow. Whipped. Whipped.. Brian's just like, I guess so. Like whoopsh, whoopsh, whipped, whipped. Okay, this is like, I actually can't tell
Starting point is 01:05:29 like how recently the site's been updated because it is a blog, but like they don't have timestamps or like dates. But like, if you go to the archive, like the category sexy ladies, like, if I had to guess like when this happened, like this is at least like 10 years old because like there are sexy ladies are Jessica Alba,
Starting point is 01:05:48 Jessica Beale, Michelle Trachtenberg. Who, wait, what's she from? She was like in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and, fuck. These are classic 2000s. Euro Trip, these are like mid late 2000s. Hotties, yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Okay, yeah. So the comments on the Michelle Trachtenberg piece are from 2011. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's just the people that are using it as an actual place to try to get justice, I think that is wild that that's happening. You've been stalking me on Twitter man card poll.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And then the best guy person puts his real name on there because that person admitted it's like he's been stalking this person on Twitter, like full name. And then it's like they do that. This guy goes while constantly begging for the Among Us code. He refuses to play any fun alternatives. He wouldn't play the game deduction. Man card revoke this guy. Bigger daddy revokes big poppies. He says running two heaters in a small office while it's only minus three degrees outside.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Louie Roman does also say Quinn actually goes after Louis too. He goes to heaters and wore a jacket to work. Are you cold? Revoked. He might have like a some kind of a circulation issue or something. Here's an interesting one. Pet revocation by our belly revokes Cody's and says, single male aka bachelor that has a cat. Okay, that one I can get behind.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah, it's a single guy. You got to throw me a single guys. Well, only ones that are in the lifestyle, but we despise them. Yeah. So finally on the chive, I only do one more thing here. All men do this, but won't admit to it. 20 gifts and it gives her pointless. It's just like, it's just easy, but they riff on it. Can you show us a couple of the gifts? And like, I would like to see a few of them. If you have them, I'll get it. I think I can get the site up for you. Okay. That would be great. Just to see them. We should have an idea of what they're riffing on. You know, I knew you would ask this is crazy because yeah, I'm looking at these even though you can't like see the the dates It's clear that like these were at least like in the last few years because there's like
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah, there's like references like there's an Among Us reference. There's there's a an ape. There's someone has a photo That's an ape from yeah. Oh, yeah So like this isn't all like 10 years ago. This is in like the last four or five. People, they're still doing this. They're revoking man cards. Holy shit. Okay, so we've got-
Starting point is 01:08:33 Can you imagine having your man card revoked? We'll just let that one go. Okay, what's- Reboot. Okay, scroll down so we can see some more of these. Okay. So wait, this is 20 things all men do. Getting spooned by their partner, I guess, is one of them. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, that's very, you know. Superman. One of them is just a Superman. One of them likes to be Superman. Nose picking is more common than anybody will admit. Okay. So we do take our noses morning pee sometimes go sideways and there's annoying cleaning up to do Okay, sniff our armpits to be sure we don't stink or we enjoy the smell. I would never admit to that You know, it's normal try to clean the toilet bowl with your pee stream.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I don't I do kind of do that. I do that. I feel like I've heard of that. I do that. I do that. I will admit that I do that. This guy just says jerking off more than we say we do. I mean, it depends on how much you say. Probably if you're doing it too often, then maybe you might feel the need to be like, oh, yeah, I do it like Brian. He'll wait for other people to say that number.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Do you know what I mean? He's like, oh, how much do you wait for someone else to answer? And then he answers like one lower than that or whatever. Because he knows his real number is like alarming to people or whatever. You know, this guy says sometimes when we shave, we try to see how we'd look with the mustache of a certain Austrian painter. Sometimes it's even my wife's idea. When she knows I'm about to shave,
Starting point is 01:10:09 she's like, come on, do it real quick. No, I don't do that. I don't do a Hitler mustache. So I've never done it, I will say. So let's get to some of these that, I prefer the ones in the comments that the less artful people covering Chris must be you, Chris, actually. He goes, I admit to everything I do.
Starting point is 01:10:33 As a matter of fact, you see an absolute smoke show in a store, definitely going to head down any aisle she's in to get another look. Oh, you're going to follow a lady around the store just to look at it. Cool. So you're admitting to that, huh? Oh, yeah. That is not an admission you should. That's actually really a cool thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. You see, you just like follow her. Like, it's kind of cool how like you're watching her and she doesn't even know.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Right. That's kind of a cool start of the element. It's pretty manly. Yeah, that's like, I mean, yeah, that reminds me of those Twitter posts that were going around for engagement like a year or two ago where it was like, you see her in the aisle. What's your approach? Yeah, what's your approach? And this guy's approach is like, well, I follow her around the store. I just sort of, something just dawned on me though is like stalking a woman, like it's sort of following around and all going her against her will,
Starting point is 01:11:27 like sort of sexualizing her in a way when she doesn't want that is pretty fucking manly. Like as far as what an actual actual man acts, I mean, that is actually yeah, like, you know, like men are pretty horrible. Right. So he's kind of maybe he's like that's his that's his manliness is he's doing. Maybe he's doing the bad man. You know, I goes coast ranger goes one of the biggest fights I got into with my ex was that an extra fine woman came into Home Depot. I was two or three aisles down and didn't notice, but I damn sure went to find out what I got busted for. So what he's saying is, is his wife accused him of looking at a hot woman in
Starting point is 01:12:06 the Home Depot. He says he wasn't, but then once he was accused, he was like, I gotta check this hot woman out. I mean, you can only get so wet, right? You know, you're like, you're already, you know, making the best of a bad situation. That's kind of, yeah, I agree with him there. If he's like, yeah, I'm already being accused of this. I at least want to see, you know, UK scofface goes, I'm very lucky. My wife will actually nudge me and point out a decent cleavage if she thinks I haven't seen it. I hate stuff like that. So I hate those for some reason, when guys are like, actually, my wife is cool and doesn't mind the bad stuff that I hate it. I don't even know why. And I'll bet you if a woman woman did it and said it about her husband, I would hate it too. I don't know. There's just something in me. It's like, it drives me fucking nuts. Yeah. I mean, it's like one of two things, right?
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's either like this performative, like, Oh, check that out. I'm cool. Or I don't know. I guess there is a situation where it could be like, maybe she's just bi and it's like, wow, check out that rockin pair. Like, hey. Yeah. Yeah. I think it could be a really cool, like I think that it could be really nice. It's like this real, they have this real trust in that relationship where it's just like, I don't, I have no jealousy at all. I know you're with me and I can also appreciate it and we can appreciate together when we see someone attractive or whatever, you know?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Right. That's like kind of healthy. And then also there's some people that we've met before where they see another woman and they say, hey, look at that. And then they think about doing more about it. I hate that. That is another thing. I I remember being at this party and there was this guy there.
Starting point is 01:13:49 He's now divorced. Thank God. So if I ever go, I probably won't ever go to another party there. But was this what age or years ago? It's like probably five years ago. Oh, you were you were full adult, full adult, Brian. Yeah, we were. It was when I first it would have had to been 2014, I think, cause it was when I really got into, you were doing street fight though, right? At that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes this even weirder, right?
Starting point is 01:14:13 As I'm fully, that's when I fully got back into wrestling and I was like at a friend's house and we were kind of talking about MMA and wrestling and Rhonda Rousey came up and this guy just looked me right in the face and goes, would you? And I just walked away. I just went into another room and was like, I never thought about it. Did you have to really think about it? Jack, my horny at the kind of Ronda Rousey mentioned mentioned. Excuse me. Like the thought of having sex with her. And I was like fully ten hot. You know, that's a grease.
Starting point is 01:14:51 So that is I mean, I I that right there will make me not like you for the rest of your life. I just don't I hate that. I hate when guys are like, hey, you know, you know. And I was like, also like when was born, I just don't like it. For like, okay, like, so whatever. Yeah. Baseline level it's, it's gross, right? Like it's fine. But like, what's so funny about that question to me is like, you know, nine times out of 10,
Starting point is 01:15:20 it doesn't matter who the like person they're asking about is. The answer is going to be yes. And like they could lie and say no, but like, oh, hey, would you have sex with this woman if she was willing to have sex with you? Sorry, I'm sorry to do a little generalization of my own here, but most of the time the answer would be yes, right? Yeah, they're not giving a real Sophie's choice. It's not really like a whole- Right, it's like would you do this or this? That's like a difficult choice, but like- Would you?
Starting point is 01:15:49 And it's like the person that they name is like somebody who's like, I just thought of the word. I'm not going to give the example that I was going to say. Get it. Okay, I'm going to say it. Get the example. Okay, so it's like, oh, it's like the hottest supermodel in the world, but she has HIV. You know? Okay. I immediately regret asking you to give me.
Starting point is 01:16:09 See, I'm telling you, Merritt, I have these intrusive things that I could say off. OK, no, but that is like, but I will say I have seen stuff like that on message boards, like 20 years ago of like, if there's like a 10 percent chance that this would happen, would you do this? And it's like, OK, you're just asking like a gambling question at that point. Like whatever. Like, but this one is really more just the one that Brian's talk mode is more just so you guys can then both sort of talk about how high, yeah, you know, I
Starting point is 01:16:34 would I'd fucking do this and that to her. I mean, we, we met a friend of ours and many kids rest in peace. He's got his audio. If anybody wants to hear many kids, do you have it right now? Do you have this? This is the lead singer of many kids Women in bikini. At Rover Fest, the aforementioned Rover Fest that we talked about. Yeah, that he was talking to some bikini babes there and he was just sort of, he was really,
Starting point is 01:17:15 you can see that he was sort of out of it a bit, but he was really thinking about what he would do, what he would do with those. And they were not, one of them gave him a sarcastic thumbs up. Yeah, here's one final little thing here. This is what men wish that other men would stop doing. Most is like says telling other men, quote, what real men do. I also hate any shirt that says real men. And then insert next guy goes, I want to totally ironically get a shirt that says real men. Don't tell
Starting point is 01:17:45 other men how to be men. Oh, that's possibly the fucking lamest shirt I've ever heard. I don't know if I could. Sure. And you were looking at the chive when you say that, too. Yeah, that is like that is like standard is so high already. Every no one thinks that's cool. There's nobody who sees that shirt and is like, wow, good shirt. Everyone. Well, there's a couple more. Otis B. Driftwood says real men don't read shirts unless the wearer is a woman.
Starting point is 01:18:19 It's cold and they know Braille. Wait, are you talking about dialing in? Okay, wait, what huh you're not getting that one. Oh, I mean I get it, but it doesn't really make sense Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean it does. Oh, yeah. I mean, okay. I got okay fine one nipple. Yeah, that's your media. Just like you're flicking at the nipple. Right. Yeah. And that's and you're reading the shirt based on that.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Yeah. Yeah. You're reading. Just flicking at her nipples in a sexual kind of way. Yeah. Kind of like an erotic way. Just really, it's still Rio says, what if it said real men do whatever makes them happy I did not realize the competition was still going but we have a new winner stop bragging about how many chive collectible coins and mini bars you have this is for you this is for you. Oh my god. This is for you. You have several. Look, this has been an intervention the whole time.
Starting point is 01:19:28 So much about how to be chive coins. You have to stop. And you sent me a chive coin too. I did send Chris a chive coin. What are these coins? Are they like cop challenge coins? Like what? Yeah, they're challenge coins.
Starting point is 01:19:37 This is mine. You can't really see it in the lighting. That's insane. But mine's a bill. It says keep calm and chive on on one side. Fuck, of course it does. And the other says, it says humor, hotnessive on on one side and the other side it says humor hotness humanity in Bill we trust and it's a pill Murray
Starting point is 01:19:50 Oh my god Right kind of envy these people because they haven't like how to do any personal growth in like 15 years Yeah, yeah Why beautiful like they found their thing and are like I never have to change Yeah, like we don't like like Bill Murray's like not even the guy anymore. No, I mean, yeah, but to them he still is It's very it's very cool He goes stop writing about how many chive collectible coins and mini bars you have believe it or not Some of us just have trouble paying our bills. Oh, well, yeah, okay
Starting point is 01:20:23 That's the that's the that's a very, very important statement is that like, listen, manliness is also about fucking supporting the working class and possibly unions as well. So paying your bills, you know, and finally, Darth Vader says the real one, not right. The Darth Vader, he goes, man buns for the love of God. Just know. And then when was that posted?
Starting point is 01:20:54 2023. No. Jesus Christ, man. Man buns have been gone. That's like 10 years ago. That's funny too, because the guys who are so invested in this stuff are always doing like, there was the latte quote earlier. Lattes were like a thing in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:21:10 People have been drinking lattes normally for like 30 years. They're always like, oh, the skinny jeans and the lattes and the man buns. And it's like, that's what young people were wearing 15 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you were in high school. Yeah, exactly. Like, your skinny jeans haven't been cool for a while. Like you just don't pick you become frozen. It's like, oh, these young kids with their
Starting point is 01:21:29 emo music. It's like their folks people you're talking about are 46. Right. Yeah. And the final quote on demand buns is just, it's a guy with a rush 2012 2112 you know avatar and it says it's 2112 as predicted and he goes just two words douche not what you call a man you call a man bun a douche not like people who have a man bun now it's like they're just the people who always had them you know what I mean like they're right there was a few people who had the lifers yeah they're not a they're just the people who always had them. You know what I mean? Like there was a few people who had them for a while. They're the lifers. Yeah, they're not a thing anymore.
Starting point is 01:22:07 It's not like indicative of the type of individual that you're discussing. And I would also say that some of the man bun stuff is 100% just guys that lost their hair and are pissed. You know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what bothers them because I always- How dare you have such long, luxurious hair. Yeah, because I always look at white guys
Starting point is 01:22:27 with dreadlocks and I'm like, man, I wish that was me. That's what I wanted. Like, are you very like, you know what? It's hard to tell with Brian if he's being serious or not when he says something like that, which is really interesting, because if I said it, I think you would know I was joking for sure. But I really wanted dreadlocks. That was my jealousy of people with long hair is that I don't have dreadlocks.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Like when did you when did you Brian, Brian, you don't know here now. I've been shaving my head since like this eighth grade or since probably like the ninth grade, not shaving it completely at that time, like getting a fade. I never had long hair. You never did long hair. I never really did long hair. I'm starting to like lose my hair a little bit. I have I still hold on to. So I still have some and I'm still OK for now. But yeah, I could have done it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:23:15 And I do sort of kick myself now that I never did long hair. And I still, of course, could. I could do the classic old guy long hair where it's not very thick on the day. Yeah, like the Hulk Hogan kind of thing. Yeah, you can Hulk Hogan. Yeah, it's pretty fucking bad ass. And I, of course, have a wife and a family now. So it's like, hey, who gives a shit?
Starting point is 01:23:35 You know, I just really wanted dreadlocks. And I don't know if I used to have this haircut. This was big in the 90s. I don't think you guys would even know about it, but you would, you give yourself a fade like on most of your hair and then you would leave the bangs and you would brush them down. So the bangs would come down into your face. It was a very stylish look. And I had that. You had that. Do you have any photos of you with that? Like at Chelsea? I'd have to find it. I don't, I, I, there are, there have to be pictures of me with that.
Starting point is 01:24:06 I just wanted to clarify too that I was meaning it as a joke to say it doesn't matter what I look like anymore because I have a white child. I still do want to be handsome. If anything, there are probably more people invested in how you look now. Yeah. And it was just, I brush, I, you brush the bangs down. I'm trying to picture this. All I can picture is like a Chelsea where you shave your whole head and just sleep But that's not traditionally a male haircut. Yeah, I definitely I think the only time I did see when I was younger
Starting point is 01:24:36 There was a guy that I went to school with who was Filipino who had a similar type of haircut to your just that you're describing But it was never a trend. It was never something that a bunch of people had. Everybody had it where I was from. Maybe that was just local, though. You know what I mean? So anyway, I had this hair, I have this hair do, and what I would do often was I'd come to school
Starting point is 01:24:57 and I knew this girl that brought the stuff and she would braid the bangs. And I'd walk around with the braids, like, how old were you when you were doing this? I was 17 and stuff. OK, and so you're just like you're fully quiber fight, obviously. Yeah, but as we were as it gets. Imagine this guy named Quiber walking around with fucking braided bangs and a shaved head.
Starting point is 01:25:28 What's a what is Queiber? Oh, sorry. I apologize. The worst thing that is the name that he was called for his like entire life until he was about 28 years old. Like people only knew him as Queiber and he mistakenly brought it up on a show about a month and a half ago. And now people are calling him that again. And now we have to clarify every story he tells. I have to ask if he was Queeb or a Brian.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I got a picture that'll show you what I looked like. This is not me. It's not you, but I think it's good. Oh, okay. Well, still, this will help. This will help. No, they were that long? Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God, dude. Oh my God. What the fuck? It's like four. It's like four grades kind of like really long ones coming down below. It looks like the top half of his face is in jail
Starting point is 01:26:32 You have to try to find the photo of you Incredible you know I don't know photos there are of me looking like that because you know cameras around back at that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's basically picture day and that's it. Picture day, picture day. You your parents wouldn't let you do that, maybe. Right. My parents didn't pay any attention. I did it once I got to school and when I got home, they I mean, like, look, you know, braids were really cool.
Starting point is 01:26:59 White dreadlocks were really cool. Sure. Yeah. Nice. That's a corn. Right. That's why I want all that. Yeah. That's why one of braids was because of corn. And who had braids in corn? The monkey? Well, yes. Monkey, Jonathan Davis. All of them had a type of braids or dreadlocks. And that's what I wanted. I just really fieldie had them him fielding had cornrows, which I would have settled for. But I just never had what I mean, if I wrote it down as right with the he would change the sea when he wrote down the word cornrows, I would have I definitely was like really I wanted braids and I really wanted to like
Starting point is 01:27:47 look like the guys in corn but my hair was just what Brian walk around with his haircut being called as queiber is just that kicks ass that's so good that is beautiful yeah that's that's man guys. It was very fun. And Merritt, you want to plug something? Yeah, I just, sorry. I need a second after that. Oh, hey, take all the time you need.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It was definitely, I know that it's a weird thing to see. I never thought I'd find a picture that kind of looked like it. I kind of wonder who that kid is. That's like the example picture we found. Probably like a respected business man now. Yeah, he's doing fine. I'm sure he is. He figured everything out.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Right, I hope so. I'm sure he's like a normal guy now, just like me. Oh, yeah, no. It was the style at the time. What did you say there, Brian? Just like you? I said he's a normal guy, just like I know it's just you know it's a story with the style of the time yeah what did you say that Brian just like you I said he's a normal guy just like me remember brace on the you know $8 tier he's did Sam most normal guy he knows and brace as we discussed does not know normal and also I think might have
Starting point is 01:29:01 been I haven't heard the audio yet might have been making a joke. I'm not really sure I don't think so, but yeah Okay. All right Yeah, yeah So yeah, I think last time I was on here was plugging the land party book that came out so that was cool It was fun. We all left it. Bestseller made million dollars. Great stuff. The thing that I'm working on lately is a game called fledgling manner. It's on steam. You can wishlist it. It's not out yet. It comes out probably at
Starting point is 01:29:38 the end of November. It's about a reality show like big brother, except everyone is a vampire when they get voted off, they get their heads cut off so yeah it's it's been a really good project what style of game is it it's a visual novel so it's very like slow paced reading interact like making choices but we made it in like five six months it's me and two of my friends and it's yeah it's been a lot of, it's me and two of my friends. And it's, yeah, it's been a lot of fun. It's like, I think it's pretty funny if you like reality shows or vampire stuff, like that interview with the vampire show
Starting point is 01:30:12 that's going on right now. Or if you like what we do in the shadows. You know, it's some similar kind of tone stuff. So it's like a horror comedy kind of thing. And yeah, so it'll be on Steam and you can play it on like Mac or PC. And even if you don't think you're gonna buy it, or like if you're like, yeah, it's not really my thing,
Starting point is 01:30:33 I'm scared of vampires, or like, I don't like visual novels, if you wishlist it, like it's not like you're like committed, it's not pre-ordering. Wishlisting is just, you press a button that says I'm interested and like it puts you it puts it on your like list of games you're wishlisting and the way Steam works is if a game gets enough wishlist like they start to promote that more heavily because they take a cut of every sale so they want things to do well.
Starting point is 01:30:58 So they put things that they think are gonna do well like on the front page. So it really helps us if you just go to steam and press wishlist. You don't even have to buy it afterwards necessarily. You learn it. That's that's what you can do. That is like a very simple thing you can do to give a little guys bump. Yeah, just press the button. I mean, we know you're all on steam because we know you're a little gamer and we know you love games like me.
Starting point is 01:31:22 And we just had a Nintendo guys episode with the go off. Kings, the gamers. Which by the way, before we before we hang up on call and just call, I want to say that like it, I really won trivia. It was I didn't cheat. It was the Wi-Fi issue was a problem. And if I broke and then the guy said we're gonna write this down on paper and we won our first we're gonna write this down on paper we're gonna mark our own
Starting point is 01:31:52 papers at the trivia so there's gonna be no oversight whatsoever and no way to verify not my fault though but we did win so don't let people lie to you and say I didn't. I mean, really, the only I'm not even joking. You went with Katie and Gwen and my brother. I'm not going to ask your brother because I know your brother, he could be in cahoots with you. You could have paid him off or whatever. But I will.
Starting point is 01:32:18 He wrote the fucking answer. I will ask Katie. I will ask Katie and see if you actually won. OK, well, I love it. We'll see you all next week. Look at the look in his face. He's just like in panic. He's just like, okay, how can I make this happen?
Starting point is 01:32:31 How quickly can he send a message to her? How quickly can I get to her? This is nonsense. And next week, debate guys. So we'll have a little fun next week. See you all next week. And here's why. Bye.

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