Guys: With Bryan Quinby - ****Repost*** Guys: Episode 134 - Feet Guys (PG) with Branson

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

This week on Guys we had Branson from The E1 Podcast to talk about a different type of foot guy. What sort of loopholes can you usew to go to a concert barefoot? How do you get your feet clean? How do you become a foot lawyer? Is it important to be grounded?  There is more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast, Join us on the Sunday Night Stream every Sunday night at 8:00 EST at twitch.tv/notevenashowand I am on https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social  Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201

Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I am your shod host, Brian, my unshawed co-host, Chris James. Hi, Chris. I don't even know what the episode is. Barefoot. Oh, Barefoot is legal guys. Okay. I see. We're calling it Feet Guys, PG. Oh, because we did Feet Guys NC17 already. We definitely did that. And it was not pleasant. And people did not like it.

I don't think there'll be any crossover between that and this then, right? Yeah. I mean, it, it was, it was an unpopular episode. People found it to be disgusting, more disgusting than sex guys, fart guys. It was, yeah, for me, it was. was one of the more disgusting ones, but, uh, this one, this one's much more kind of funny and silly, right? No. Our guests this week to talk about these weird guys is Branson. Hi, Branson. What's up? Hey, you guys. You're going to love these guys. I'm going to tell you what. They, they have a really cool beliefs about the law that are nice. Um, some very cool scientific

beliefs i see so they're they're libertarian they're about like are they a lot of libertarians i want to start like can i just start it with this real quick lebron j this is the first post i found this is what maybe decided to do this it is a post in barefoot running and it says lebron james wearing toe shoes and latest instagram post picture of lebron james he's wearing toe shoes no fucking way first guy goes this is probably the highest profile athlete i've seen one I've seen wearing this style of shoe the shoes aren't the focus of the post but I think stuff like this can really move the needle

on general acceptance of minimal minimal slash anatomical footwear that seems normal right well but isn't anybody people are wearing sandals are you guys aware of what LeBron James's feet look like oh have you seen him oh he's got notoriously fucked up feet

it's awesome that's what these guys keep saying And I had no idea these guys are one. You first said that, like, he got his toes into, like, one of those slipper things. I thought, no fucking way. Because if you see a picture, he's been wearing basketball shoes for 30 years as tight as he can. And he's got, like, like, bound feet. He's got, like, fucked up, crunched up overlapping toes. Like, I'm amazed that these shoes, the fact that he, these shoes could even straighten out his feet,

I might be a little bit of a believer just from hearing that they were able to handle his feet. Like are you familiar with Tori Holtz fingers, the NFL wide receiver, who his fingers just go every direction now, just like that. Now, I feel like maybe he's so rich and influential, though, that he could have like real specialty made ones. You can't fix them, Chris. You can't. There's no fixing, right?

Like, that's what they're all saying. The guy's like, I mean, I can't think of a person who could benefit from them more than him. Like, these barefoot guys, I didn't realize this until I started. These guys know everything about LeBron James's feet and they're often talking about LeBron James's feet. I'm so confused then. So these things that he's wearing are meant to fix his feet. Toe shoes. Have you ever seen the toes shoes?

Yeah, I've seen them before. But I didn't know, I didn't know they served any purpose other than to look cool as hell. Like I thought that the whole purpose was just to be the cool. guy on the block. So you're saying that they actually have like a, like a purpose to help your feet? Is that what you're saying? I was like living in Logan Square in Chicago when I first saw like toe shoes. And I thought they were like, oh, I looked at those and I thought in my head, that's obviously a free running thing. That's obviously guys who are jumping over buildings or something like that. I could justify it. So for the first six months I saw him, I assumed everyone who

was wearing them was like free runners. And that was completely incorrect. I learned later. And so you were thinking of them as being the coolest guys. You were thinking of like somebody. This guy is like an urban warrior. He's jumping up a buildman. He's like Spider-Man. He's kind of like Spider-Man. In fact, they're doing the opposite of that. They spend most of the day laying down. I see. But I see, I don't around, I don't know that I've seen them while. I live in Vancouver up and I don't know if we have them as much in Canada maybe. I'm sure we do. But I've never, I don't know if I've ever encountered them in the wild. Now, I'm just curious if we're going to get, are we, Brian, you,

Brian is just on his. phone. Can you imagine bringing people on to your podcast and then it must have been really important. That's all I'm done. It must have been so important. Branson it is. It's been going up for two days and it just ended. It's actually been going on for like it's been it's now invading my fucking life, Branson, because the last like three recordings or something that we've done, he's like completely preoccupied with this thing that's that it's just sending money to his daughter. That's all that it is. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, almost like this podcast is a nice living room, and he's walking barefoot all over it.

Let me just say this. It's fixed, and we're all done now. Unfortunately for Chris, this is the last episode we record for like a week and a half. Yeah, so I don't, so he's managed to square it all the way right before he goes on vacation. How convenience for you, Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a vacation that I don't all, I don't get to go on, by the way. I will continue to work because, I mean, as Prince and I don't want to spoil the

friend. I have to like edit the episodes and do that side of thing. So we just record all of them ahead of time. And then he goes on a vacation. And you're sitting in a dark room sweating. I'm smoking cigarettes. I'm smoking Marlboro Reds. I was smoking a bunch of Margaritaville raising the roof with Lilo and Stitch.

I mean, I mean, the truth. It doesn't take me that long to edit it, actually. I'm mostly busy with. to be in Asheville. So this guy goes, what it will lead to is more price increases. So that is cynical interpretation. I am, I am really, cynical as you can get for a bear who wants a cynical barefoot guy around? Like, God damn. If you're going to be barefoot, you better be fucking optimistic. You're right about that. That's very true. Well, I, I guess I'm really still completely lost on what these guys are talking about. What's going on here?

I have no broad feet are fucked, Chris. I get that. They're going to jack up the price of the shoes because LeBron's wearing them. But they are these are specifically, again, I'm sorry to the listener if you already know what's going on here and you're, but these are shoes specifically for people with fucked up feet. No. These are shoes.

These are shoes that are supposed to mimic being barefoot. Ah, yeah. The toes go in the toes. Now, first of all, I fully think, and I don't remember the full details of this. I should have looked this up. I think there was like a class action lawsuit that said a lot of the benefits to these shoes that they were touting were wrong. And I think they had to pay money. I'm not 100% sure of that.

So these are these are shoes. You have to take a certain amount of misinformation with you. I feel like, if you're getting into Chris, you'd just be like, all right. As a rule, everyone gets a pass. ass um so they're they're like they're sort of a barefoot community shoe though the the bear foot community is like hey you guys are so obsessed with these shoes how about you try these ones or they're like least amount of shoes you can wear they're like shoes that they can wear if they're forced to wear a shoe in a situation is that legally the least amount of shoe they're allowed to wear

i think yeah this guy if sandals aren't a lot because that would they do sandals would they prefer sandals over these i would i wonder yes they would maybe so we're going to look at a few different kinds of schools of thought obviously there's the sandals there's carry a sandal in your backpack just in case guys they got just in case you have to go into like an establishment or something no like a condom in your wallet yeah and it's just in case you have to go into a store and they tell you you have to put shoes on if you just go into store nobody says anything about shoes you don't got to put the on that's not what they're there for let's be honest i mean you're probably going to get by you're gonna escape by yeah you're gonna i'm not saying shit yeah most people are at the ups store i like guys

walk in their barefoot i'm not saying shit just stay on your side yeah recently i used to work at best by i can't even imagine confronting somebody about being barefoot don't get paid enough to tell a guy to get put shoes on that's a humiliating experience for both parties you would have to it would have to be a real like sort of like upper like upper cross kind you know it'd have to be like the rolex store or something like that i feel like where and then i don't know why are the barefoot guys going to those kind of stores i need to go to a store with white carpet asap this guy says he definitely needs to fix his toe health okay so yeah that was the confusing part to me i guess is that the post initially it's horrible it had nothing to do with his fucked up feet they were just saying hey he's

wearing these shoes and now everyone's going to want them and it's going to drive the prices up or whatever that's a separate thing from him having a fuck his well this guy said he's got this guy thinks he wore him and he this is his comment on us he got sick of people his foot being used as an example because people are i guess in the barefoot community like well look at lebron james's feet and it's like well yeah he's using them for a different thing than we are and like i listen it's a lot of projection in this community it's a immense amounts of projection. I feel like I've been doing this podcast.

I've been doing this podcast. I hope is broadcast reflected through LeBron James' feet like they're a prism. I mean, I feel like I've been doing this podcast for so long. I've never been so confused initially. And I don't even know if I'm ever going to really get any sort of understanding about what's going on, Brian, because I don't, I don't understand what any of this. Like, I don't get what you're talking about, really. What do you think about this? There's nothing deeper, is my understanding of it.

This is completely surface level. Take it as you see it. This guy goes, I'm sorry for all the downvotes you're getting. And even if I hate wearing restrictive shoes like Converse, they have indeed features that make them very good for basketball, much like football shoes. What we need is some basketball shoes with a wide toe box. But I know that athletes used to wear old fabric Converse and NBA,

even if it seems ridiculous now, and they didn't get hurt at all. I'm pretty sure modern basketball shoes are more of a style than an actual useful improvement. So back when they used to wear converse on the courts or Chuck Taylor's, and nobody was getting hurt, ever. Brian, in your reading of this, is this, right now from what you're saying, it strikes me as a sort of old head style community. Even the conversation evokes like an early, like a 2006 sort of Reddit civility here.

Is that your understanding of these guys? They fight a lot. Yeah. Because there's a couple of classes. I thought they're barefoot guys. Why are they talking about different styles of basketball shoes? Because they hate basketball shoes, Chris. Basketball shoes are the thing that they feel are fucking everybody's feet up.

They're the culprit against this community. Yeah. I love basketball shoes. I'm going to sit on the sidelines. It doesn't matter what my toes look like. I'm just going to sit on the sidelines for a little bit because I feel like I'm ruining the episode for everyone. I'm just going to sit back a little bit and try to get a foothold and what's happening. And then, I get it.

I wasn't trying to do that. Why don't you slip off those socks and you take a look down there and look down at them and kind of ponder those suckers for a minute and then see if you can kind of understand what these guys are talking about. I'm going to look at my feet for a bit. You guys talk and I'll just listen. Let's do this. This guy posted a thought experiment on R slash barefoot. In a parallel dimension where shoes never became status quo, what kind of things might also be difference as a consequence? Small or large, built, or behavioral.

Let's say that shoes do exist, but are more like, quote, equipment than, quote, clothing. And thus a variety of well-developed application-specific types are readily available as, for example, tools, workwear, and sporting equipment. For example, every domicile might have a foot bidet just inside the entrance, either as a standalone appliance or built in. Oh, because you'd have to wash your feet when you come in because they'd be filthy. I think all of these guys Well, the first change

would be that I'd constantly have steam coming out of my ears like a cartoon character in some sort of Jessica Rabbit scenario I'd constantly be howling I'd be constantly just walking around hard I think is really the first major change You'd be in a wuga mode Yeah, that's...

I think all these guys, all these guys really That's what we're getting at here They don't try to hide it. We're trying to hide it. to not, Branson, because that was the one thing we learned when we did the bad foot episode where everyone got really mad how gross it was, was that was one of the really kind of fucked up parts of it, is that these people are kind of walking around and then they're like, yeah, they just got, she just had them out, you know?

Yeah, and it's like, yeah, we didn't like that. Yeah, we didn't like that. It was like this thing where they're like looking at people's feet and people are just at the beach or whatever, right? They don't want to be like sexualized in that way and they don't even know they are and like maybe they chose not to clip their toenails that day because it's too boring and they didn't feel like doing it yeah and they're just like and they're just like look at them they left it all long and wild for me you know like that's the way the foot guy is thinking and so i like

at this guy he obviously can't get his left pinky toenail he's obviously just letting that one flare up for a while there look at that guy i'm going to give these guys a benefit of the dough and say like that they are not horny these no they're not okay i promise this person goes first of all, I think being barefoot at work would be the norm, unless footwear would be necessary as equipment, as you said. So we would see all sorts of people sitting at their desk job barefooted, but also barefoot nurses, bus drivers, shop assistants. This is so funny to me because it's like this, this like perfect world for them. And it's like the exact same world, except for like all of the classic jobs just don't have shoes on. Well, it just also like, you know, fundamentally all

these guys have an understanding with each other that I don't have. It's really what's so bad about wearing shoes? Like does it why? Foot prisons. I think that they feel like they're binding your feet up and like keeping them. Yeah, that they're keeping them like constrained in a way that's like unhealthy. What kind of shoes are they wearing, I guess, is really, because you know, most shoes I find don't really do that, you know? Yeah. Most shoes I find you like in my opinion, like I try on shoes and they feel good on my feet. I don't even understand this idea that shoes are so oppressive. I love having shoes on. I want to hear a theory. I just came up

with a theory in my brain. It's not based on any evidence at all, but this is my thought is that the barefoot is legal sort of thing. The movement started a long time ago when shoes were like that, right? When you wore those like dress shoes that were really like uncomfortable all the time. And this barefoot movement started and got

passed along from like generation to generation. So there They're just kind of going off of the assumption or there's this feeling like shoes are this way. But it's like a lot of them maybe they just more of grazed that way. If you showed them a nice pair of like new, you know, Nike fucking like Pegasus, like, you know, trail runners. There's things to feel like clouds on your feet for God's sake. I love my shoes. Yeah.

They might change their mind up a little bit because I agree that it's like shoes are not that way anymore. But like also you just can't start wearing. shoes because not only do you like you know you lose that identity you've built up of like talking all this stuff so it's like honestly if these guys there's definitely some fucking barefoot guys that have like a pair of keds or k swiss that are really comfortable that they put on in the basement get out of their system they don't tell anybody about it's their secret shape in a circle in the basement with their shoes on a hoodie and walk around their neighborhood and then be like hold on is Barefoot Fred wearing fucking shoes?

Yeah, he fucking books it. He runs when they spot it. At 2 a.m., you'll walk around at 2 a.m. And he can run so fast in his case with, too. He's got nothing else. He's the barefoot guy. We tried to get him into mild trains. He said they're too expensive.

And so now he's not really doing anything. Yeah, no, you're right about that. That is true. That's the other thing. This is the cheapest guy thing. And it's funny because we just recently talked about cigars and motorcycles, which I would put in the higher expense. thing. But this, this is actually negative. Negative money. This is negative expense. This actually saves you money being this type of guy.

Yeah, that's kind of cool. You know, I would, because if you would put a graph of men wearing shoes next to a graph of men who don't wear shoes and then just put income over time, I'm going to bet on the guys who wear shoes. So I'm not going to say it's a fiscally smart maneuver. Well, listen, we're not talking about earning power. I would say those shoes are investments. Branson. The discussion is not about earning power. It's about how much money you save in being this guy. And you have to admit you save money on shoes, right? How much money you spend on shoes, Branson? You save expenses on gas, going to job interviews. All you save tons of money. You save expenses on all the establishments that will not let you enter. You can't even purchase things. So it's like the amount of money saved is just incredible. I read posts from people who have been, like they're talking about, here, I think I have, I have one like from Quora where a person asks, uh, health benefits, uh, how long you've gone. I don't know what happened to me at the beginning of the episode. I was so confused by the LeBron James aspect of it that I became so lost. I want to apologize to the listener. I'm here again and I know what's going on. I understand defeat guys. man i lost them okay so yeah somebody there were a few people that are like i haven't worn shoes this year and i was like really kind of like wow yeah i was very impressed with that i have to wear shoes

like i don't really go out of my way to wear shoes but i kind of have to wear them every day i have to wear them every single day yeah at least you know i go out right first thing in the morning the first thing I do is to take my dog out for a walk real early in the morning. It's on like a gravel path where I just feel like if I wasn't wearing shoes, I would immediately be in trouble in my day. Well, here's one of them. What are some health benefits to going barefoot? And this person answers, yes, do it.

And you will not be disappointed. I went barefoot for 10 years. I learned how our feet are meant to work to be hugging the earth with every step, brings many benefits. Absorbed nutrients. I knew it. I knew he was going to say, absorb nutrients through your feet.

I was like, God, damn, I knew he's going to say that shit. He goes, you'll be hugging the earth with every step, brings many benefits such as learning how to traverse large distances over rough terrain swiftly with little effort,

new gates, besides simply walking and running become apparent and useful for different surface, gradients, and speeds. Your feet will learn to see in the dark. They get used to a familiar ground and will guide you in the dark. You will walk running B-lines through mud, gravel, grass, et cetera.

And so why am I doing that? Why am I running through gravel and mud now? Why? I don't want to be running through the mud and gravel. But I, listen, I think, you ever see a marsh and you just want to sprint through it? I feel like the one single benefit is just that it obviously gets calluses on your feet, right?

After a while where your feet becomes stronger and you're able to then, you know, walk easily and you don't get hurt when you walk on the rocks. I think that's a real benefit that will happen. But I don't think it stretches much further than that, right? I don't think barefoot guys are doing this shit. They're just a lying now. This is a lie. This is a lie. Talking about you'll learn new ways to walk. You'll run through the mud. You'll run through the marsh. You'll be like a goddamn animal again. Yeah, like, yeah, like, I mean, these guys are like 47. This could be incredibly helpful if you find yourself stranded in the woods being, you know, chased by a mad serial

killer. I mean, it's just like you, yeah, you'll be fucking doesn't matter where you're going. You'll just be able to run through, which, yeah, I guess honestly, serial killer is chasing me and I'm barefoot, even without the experience. I think I would just make it, I would make it happen, bro. I'd prefer to wear shoes.

He goes, one mistake I made. Well, actually, I wanted to get this last part. He goes, you'll walk slash run and bee lines through mud, gravel, grass, etc. And simply wash it off at the next puddle. One mistake. Oh, hell of that. Whereas you or I, Branson, we would, we would go to somebody like a professional

which I'd ask them what to do with the mock, you know? Just like, if you shoot your pants, not a big deal. If you just wait for it to rain. He goes, one mistake I made, I broke my own rule about running barefoot in the dark, drunk. Any two of the above is fine. But when I did all three, I totally forgot about a meter drain on my route. I survived the crash. It could have been worse, but it was my own folly.

that caused that so man that's one of those things i keep to myself you know that you're yeah that's one of those things i think you guys are being you know by the way i got really drunk and i uh ran in the dark and fucked up really bad i just keep that one to me do you guys want to hear a story about how i when i was younger i got real drunk running in the dark and fuck myself up real bad because it just reminded me of it i uh i like left this party and went home i had to like go do something at home to like prove that i was home or something like that and then i came back to the party at this guy sean's house and i was running running as fast i couldn't again it was just like i knew my route but i was a little drunk and i lifted my head up too early and smashed my head uh on like a tree and it smashed

my fit like head like cut it open bad and those blood like all over my face and so i showed up at the party all drunk just covered in blood and they're all who the fuck did this you know like and they I'll just assume that I had been beaten up and like, oh, let's go get this guy, you know? And I had to just, like, embarrassingly be like, uh, yeah, let's drive around looking for him. I, uh, yeah, let's go get him. He was like, fucking, I don't know, he was like fucking little guy, but he was like pretty fucking stocky, you know. He's a regular size guy with his regular clothes off. Yeah, there's a more, no, I had to actually tell them that like, yeah, no, I ran my head into a tree.

Sorry, fellas, you're going to have to get out your bloodlust in some other way. Let's take a look at this Because this is an interesting question This guy says vague venue policies Now this is a very Sorry I got to see modest Yahoo Tell me the rules baby

I got to see my modest Yahoo In the context of these Verfuck guys that's such a good Headline Well wait till you hear He goes Sometimes before going to new places Like stadiums or arena

I'll check their website to see if they have any policies against patrons who are barefoot. It helps me avoid any unnecessary confrontation. Most places which prohibit bare feet seem to have pretty specific policies. For example, patrons are prohibited from entering without shirts and shoes. However, I have noticed a couple of vague policies as of late. One policy stated that, quote, footwear is required to attend, and the other is foot coverings are required at all times. in my opinion neither footwear nor foot coverings means that shoes are required i think in their

basic sense footwear is something that is worn on the foot like a toe ring or some other jewelry oh okay the feet lawyers here this is who i want to be you choose who you are every day on this on god's green earth and they chose to be the fucking feet lawyer i mean yeah just arguing that case with a with a low paid security guards a hundred dollars an hour man if they got to go face to face with the feet lawyer well technically i'm wearing a toe ring it's just like i got we just got to call this one fellas get her out of here oh yeah yeah show me where it says shoes honestly yeah show me where it says shoes you just got to drag them out you just got to drag them out and take whatever they'll sue you afterwards but like honestly nobody is like going to take their

side. Even if they're right from a legal standpoint, no one's ever going to take their side. So you're really fine. The guy comes into the toe ring. The most person in the world is the foot lawyer. Yeah, he goes, uh, similarly foot coverings, especially in the non-health care slash non-stereal lab environment means one has to have something to cover their feet. Here, an easy example is a sock.

I also think that a foot covering policy might ban flip-flop since the foot is not covered. Rather ironic, socks could be okay, but flip-flops are not. What do you think? Have we found a solution slash loophole? Well, I think that you, I think that it's fucking ridiculous to show up to an event with your socks on and no shoes. I mean, yeah, I think that's crazy. You fucking Tommy Pickles? What the fuck is that? Yeah. That's worse than anything.

It's worse than barefoot. Showing up in your socks is worse. It honestly is, like, you need help, man. Like, hey, if I just, you just see a guy walking around socks, you'd be like, dude, are you like shell shocked? after you were like did you come from somewhere like do you know what I mean was there like no actually it's a loophole so I can be barefoot and I'll be like all right cool I'm gonna go get the police I'm gonna escalate this immediately for everyone's behalf I think that like somebody who is just wearing socks seems like they had to leave somewhere quickly like that's

the only reason I could ever think of you were just caught cheating on your wife right is that what you're wearing socks for yeah well that's interesting Because this guy accomplished ad asked this question. Would it count if I just wore socks in public? I live in a big city with thousands of people and going fully barefoot would probably attract more attention than I'd want. Yeah, those freaks would probably be weirdly obsessed with me walking around barefoot. But if I wore just socks, I can still feel semi barefoot while keeping my feet protected and

clean, all while drawing less attention. What do you guys think? More attention, as we just said, as we just said, it's more attention. Walking around wearing socks is more odd than walking on wearing barefoot. Just wear a t-shirt that says, ask me about my feet. Yeah. It is weird, man, because you, you know what I picked? The reason I put this in here is because, like, I was picturing the guy walking around in his socks and they're dirty.

And they're also, like, hanging off the front of his foot. And, like, they're just, like, all falling because, dude, the city will tear your fucking socks up. There's just no, no way. Yeah, crazy types of fungus in your toenail. You're getting all kinds of stuff in there. Every kind of trash is on the ground. Batteries. Oh, yeah.

People peeing. People taking number twos. Animals take a number two's. Rats dying. Birds dying. Yeah, but they, the bare foot people don't. That's what? You mean the earth?

That's called the earth. And it's actually, you want to kiss that every day with your feet with the bottom. Well, what they would say to you is your shoes get that stuff on them, too. But that's okay. that's yeah that's fine that's why i'm wearing of dude that's the whole point yeah we're right we're on the same team man yeah i think the worst thing to me i barefoot guys god bless you the foot lawyers it's a pitiful state of being it's a pitiful person to choose to be even if you're technically right sometimes you just got to let it go yeah sometimes you just got to let

it go yeah i understand aren't into it man it's just what it is they want to see their concert they want to see the concert and they're but it's like yeah yeah you're you're You have to pick one or the other sometimes, and I'm sorry, but, yeah, you're right. To just be, like, ever be that person where you're just, like, bothering some employee with some horrible, like, legal loophole shit on any sort of a thing, it makes you really terrible for sure. And to be doing it with your feet out, it's annoying. You're being, like, you know you're being annoying. That's the thing.

like the foot community people that are just plain annoying right like the people in in the world that are annoying but don't know that they're annoying I can give them a pass because it's just like this guy doesn't know he's annoying

but if you're fucking standing in line to go to a hockey game or something and you're like well actually it says footwear and I'm wearing a toe ring then you're just you know what you're doing too you know you know what I mean like yeah you like you're aware of it it's like no I'm being annoying but I'm doing it for this like righteous thing and that's like yeah that is

really if I'm part of the foot community I'm thinking about you know this this type of guy's gonna fuck it all up for us yes because I'm if I'm worried about foot prisons right if I'm really worried about foot prisons the government's going to come to my house make me wear shoes even when I go to bed right you know it's going to be it's going to be it's going to be the foot lawyers that evoke the wave of hostility it's going to be the foot lawyers if somebody wins like a high profile barefoot case you know to be able to like go barefoot to like a football game or something they're not respected the wave will turn that will never happen keep your foot lawyers in check it will never happen because they have no

respect from anybody in the world everybody laughs at them honestly you would think that the foot lawyers are the scourge of the barefoot community but that is not the only person this person says is there any scientific evidence that earthing slash grounding has health benefits so i'm new to earthing i'm thinking to try it but is it actually scientifically proven to have benefits if yes how exactly does it benefit you does walking barefoot only benefit you in doing it on actual soil or does walking at home also have benefits is it good for depression thanks for your help okay this guy first guy normal guy we're good here's your normal guy I've never seen any convincing evidence.

It's pseudoscience at best. I can say, I can't say much about depression, but what I can say is it helps me calm my mind down when I have too much swirling in my head. I like to go to the park for nightly walks and being barefoot really helps in calming my mind and helps me be present in the moment. I use it like a form of meditation, mindfully walking and thinking of nothing in life but enjoying the textures beneath me. That incredibly reasonable man, incredibly reasonable statement. votes well what no oh i thought that was a real thing i was like this is the most hated man he's like fucking mr rogers for the barefoot movement you got to platform that guy yeah and so the next guy answers and goes uh it's very simple we are being we are beings of electricity electrons flow through

our body and hold us together the earth is grounding when you connect to ground your electrons free flow and stabilize there is no magic it's just a lost connection to the earth since the invention of rubber sole shoes and people are now rediscovering how humans are connected to the earth not some spiritual stuff even just scientifically now this guy saying we're beings of pure electricity i can feel those fucking electrons they feel great man i love these electrons from the ground man it's the electrons guy we love them uh this guy goes well there may be other explanations we suggest that rapid resolution of inflammation takes place because the earth surface is an abundant source of a abundant source of excited and mobile electrons, as described in our work.

So excited and mobile electrons. Being barefoot's the same thing as drinking Gatorade. Yes. Well, they do say that we absorb more electrolytes through our feet, which then those electrolytes come from the ground. Are there any kind of graphics where they'll have like a guy's feet and then they'll have it next to a tree and they'll show the roots absorb nutrients and then they'll show the guy's feet absorbing nutrients there are a lot of

there are a lot of pictures of people's feet i will say that way more pictures of feet than was in a foot fetish episode like i saw so many pictures of guys feet and and you know what they would be like look how great these feet look right like i've been walking barefoot for two years look how great my feet look they look exactly the same but dirty to me every time this guy goes 100% pseudoscience and uh he gets see this is the fight now here we he gets the foot lawyers and hey you're being annoying paining ass but the real fight here is between the guys that are like you got to get those electrons moving and the guys that are like stop saying this stuff you make us look fucking crazy and that that that is true right that is true

it does make them seem like when you start saying that stuff like oh it like brings the electrons in through the core like that's what you know people are like oh so it's not just like about like just walking barefoot and having the freedom of being out of shoes like you guys are like actually looney yeah so i think that that's that's correct that brings a lot of shame probably to the community i think both of them do also the guys who are in line saying like no this is actually a foot covering they're all bringing shame to the yeah this guy goes the fact is there are studies showing physical changes and benefits from grounding which do need further research but you claiming

at pseudoscience is actually anti-science since there is no research disproving it but there are studies showing in a fucking science works there's no research disproving it there's a lot of stuff that there's no research disproving because there's no need to because it's so fucking so stupid

nobody felt the need to ever be disprove it because everyone's just like everyone's just like no we just we just know that that's not true he goes but there are studies showing an effect and mechanism if you were scientific and truthful person you would say quote preliminary studies demonstrate an effect but we need more studies but you're not you don't actually understand science and you yourself are providing misinformation do you actually have the moral character

to admit you are wrong oh this is why i don't argue i just i don't argue anymore this is what everybody fucking sounds like when they're arguing to me now i just say i got to just not do it yeah And when the next guy goes, you don't have the guts to admit, you're spreading pseudoscience. So we are in a real fight here. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This guy goes the bottom's of our-profiles. They're checking past posts.

They're seeing what else this guy is into. They're seeing if there's any pictures of this guy. Who's this guy talk to? They're getting their fingers in there. They're ready to go. Their eyes are narrowing like a predator. I love this guy. I love this person.

Uh, so this guy goes, the bottom of our feet are covered. this is the science everybody get ready for some science the bottoms of our feet are covered in sweat glands sweat in itself is more conductive than just water due to the presence of electrolytes when we ground barefoot the combination of sweat from the bottoms of our feet and the negative ions from the earth causes an exchange through the sweat ducts in our feet inflammatory byproducts within the body almost always give off a positive charge while anti-inflammatory byproducts are negatively charged the negative ions from the earth work synergistically with our body to pull these positively charged ion like i know that it you know but it's like if i ever hear that it i don't know

man that might be synergistically i'm kind of like oh okay i'm not really sure you're above board that's that's a word somebody who has a bluetooth like headset and uses ions i did i mean but synergistically is like synergistically is like synergistically is something someone says who is like trying to sell you on something that is going to rip you off seriously you know it's like that type of thing like synergistically we're working on like improving that like that's that it's like a sales pitch type thing i think ions is the thing that that kind of hits me like as in like a guy talking about ions i'm going to just be like listen okay man have fun with the ions i don't want to tell you i love these ions shooting through my body

Love it. Yeah, yeah. Just fucking ions. That you could feel ions is the craziest that, like, that they are saying like, hey. You get Ernest fucking goes to jail powers from walking barefoot in there. He goes, hey, I walk out of my house and I touch the asphalt outside and those fucking ions just go crazy. Oh, but you kidding me? Asphalt ions.

Asphalt ions are fucking insane, dude. Have you ever, have you ever had like Lenore? The linoleum ions, buddy. Dude, I got to get outside. My ions are low. The linoleum ones make me feel a little sleepy, but like somebody who's just convinced that every place they step is like directly impacting their body. Yeah, I mean, it's not much past that.

Honestly, I feel like, again, I feel like maybe there's, where does that come from, I guess? There's people who want to be barefoot and then they're searching. They come up with stuff. Yeah, like longing for a deep. reason why it's good and why their whole like life's purpose is actually something that everybody else should be doing or what yeah maybe try to get other people to do it yeah you just have fun with it you have a higher tolerance of the metaphysical so somebody says something you let it go away these communities are not really the these are not stem guys jumping on each other these are

you can kind of say whatever you want in fact I think in this community you would have to really kind of reel back and in order to get somebody to go whoa whoa hold on let's let's take a break care you know yeah yeah it's an escalation of opinion that's just very very tolerated and sooner later you're going to get guys and everyone's a genius it is the same thing as a sovereign citizen in a way because like they have this idea like i don't want to have to go get my driver's license so here's all the reasons i shouldn't have to get my driver's license and this is like barefoot people are looked at not by me i'm fine with it whatever do what you want but like there are people who are like get those feet and shoes

you know what i mean i don't have a positive opinion of barefoot people right if i see a barefoot person in the street right there's a zero percent chance that a barefoot person is ever going to make my life easier you know what i mean yeah that's what it is is when you are a barefoot person in the world you are now a potential you're viewed at as a potential problem at best you can be neutral at best. It depends where you are, of course. But yeah, if you see someone who's like clearly a barefoot person where they're in a situation where nobody else is barefoot and they are.

Sands Beach, anywhere but the beach. Well, at a park or whatever I could see it, that's a nice summer day at the park or whatever. You want to slip your shoes off. You're playing a little frisbee or something like that. It depends how ugly they are at the park. That's my rule. If you're too ugly, you've got to keep your shoes on at the park.

I will let it slide at the park on a nice day. I'll let it slide. Yeah, anybody who's like... Listen, buddy. I'm going to let it slide today. Downtown. On, like, any day downtown, if you're just, like, walking on, like, the sidewalk or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, like, I'll be honest with you. Like, truly, the only people I see walking barefoot are, like, people who are, like, you know, are unhoused people. Like, in Vancouver, there's a lot of unhaust people. So you're generally going to see people who are barefoot who are... I don't see a lot of these. Again, I don't know that I've encountered one of these, like, barefoot is legal type.

people I don't I don't I point to their point provers usually you're proof if you're in the city and you're doing it you're proven a point and I I just think that I don't know that like I always thought of them as someone who just I know that they do exist but yeah because I've never encountered them I always thought of them as this on online phenomenon that just like yeah you know is on these message boards but no one's really I've seen them people aren't out there at restaurants being like no I'm allowed to you are I looked at pictures of guys at bars without shoes on

looked at a million because i look at pictures no but they take pictures they take pictures of each other's feet like they will be like oh my god i ran into another barefoot guy at this bar and they'll take a picture of his feet and then they'll also there's they'll also the other thing that they'll do often is they're like if i'm barefoot and somebody asked me about it get ready motherfucker because I'm going to talk about ions. Of course. Oh, my God, dude. I just realized it's also like, like, like when I would, when I, I get the same

thing of like how they have a speech prepared. It was like when I was like in college and you'd be hanging out with like Obama era DSA people who were so passionate and ready to give you the speech at a moment's notice like that. That's what I'm getting a little bit from the foot guys is that that. that sincere over eagerness that completely blows their cause yeah right and it is it is one of those things where like they have memes saying like don't ask me about being barefoot because i'll fucking go crazy on you yeah it's like vegetarians or whatever that's a funny meme yeah yeah but

the the good thing i think i don't think that it would be objectionable to me if a guy said i go barefoot because I don't like shoes and like all that like if a regular guy said that now if this guy where he's saying like he goes uh these negative ions attach themselves to our red blood cells due to the content of iron in our blood the results in causing polarization of the blood cells basically causing the blood cells to push away from one another as opposed to clumping up this separation allows for better blood oxygenation and better blood flow allowing the blood to become more viscous that would be a time for me to like try to figure out how to get out of the conversation i'm out of there yeah that's like that's the anti-vax kind of like you know it starts

to feel that kind of way like oh you're like you know what i mean you don't like believe in real science and stuff and you're like sort of living in a different reality than i am right now and like it would it would it would definitely get my like i would be uh you know i get my back up there for sure and then definitely when they said what was the word that they used that i really uh synergistically synergistically certainly when synergistically hit i would be fucking running out of there like a cartoon character you just see my fucking clothes still there and i would be gone and a little i'm great at disengaging with like old guys in public that want to talk to me i'm really good at it because i get targeted a lot because i'm tall so a guy that's an instant conversation starter

with anyone over the age of 55 because they'll be like, I knew I had a brother that was tall. But what I found works is I had once a guy approached me to riff about the Land of Lakes Butter mascot and he was holding it up and I could see he was loading the riff. They took the Landlake's fucking Butter mascot. What the fuck? And I had him, I saw him approaching me holding the Land of Lakes thing. And I just, he started saying, you know, and I go, I'm not interested in that sort of thing. and I didn't prep it but I use that every fucking time it works every time if you just told look an old man dead in the eyes and tell him you are not interested in that type of thing he has no idea how to take it yeah I mean this is a real white night thing but I did have like just somebody was making like a racist you know what I mean like saying something like hey how about this with that and it wasn't that long ago like in the last six months and I just said to him hey man I oh sorry

buddy i'm not i'm not a racist guy i apologize i thought we were keeping the what we were talking about before off of the podcast what oh in the joke i was saying i was the racist guy you were confronting i yeah that is a minute beforehand i mean the the thing with me is like i am very confrontation i'm very racist but i also don't like sorry i just want to say branson the reason that i had to stop you there's because I was worried that you were referring to the actual homophobic thing I was saying before the show started I'm just joking about that as well everyone was it ain't good I'll relax this person says damn please Brian so what was the thing that you were going to say I cut you off and what were you going to say I don't remember now okay well that's this person goes that's the risk

that's my memory damn couldn't have said it better myself people forget that before we wear shoes and use the internet and ate horrible food that we were all special powerful beings full of spirituality, knowledge, and light. Just look at the indigenous tribes. We had the ability to heal ourselves. We had the ability to work in nature. We lost our connection to our spirituality, so important to immerse yourself in nature and ground yourself.

Listen, I believe that there is a definite truth to what they're saying there in the fact that, yeah, we have lost our connection to nature in a lot of ways. Like there's a lot of people who have- Barefoot equals avatar, I think, is where he's getting at. But they have zero connection. There's a lot of people live in the city and they have zero connection to like the nature around them like you know anything like that and i think that that is like a strength of indigenous communities and something that we've lost but i just don't know that the barefoot thing is the

way back in i just don't know that that is the way back in you know you know regardless of all this discussions of government and financial systems in the large scale industry of people it's about our fucking shoes yeah we could just have if we if i could honestly honestly if old donnie trump would just pop off his shoes and socks that way i think make a big difference of this world right did brian freeze i think we lost bryant i thought i thought he was making a face yeah i thought he was just so we've lost brian this is this bradson i want to say this is unprecedented but it's very precedented it's very precedented oh how many precedents you got for this one there's been a few of them for sure and you just the question

becomes, you know, when will you come? That's a kicked chord scenario, I think, is what I'm calling a kicked cord. Because it wasn't like a gradual thing. Branson. Can I tell you? It's always a kicked cord. It's a kick cord, yeah. Yeah, it's always a kick cord.

What's he got? What's he got? What is he working with there? Was he got a focus right? I'm seeing an XLR there. He's got to have a focus rights. You'll plug into him real secure. And then they got that shitty USB connection.

I have the, I have a scarlet. I think mine is a focus. I think he does not. He has some weird. It's the computer he turns off, just to be clear. He kicks off his whole computer. Oh, is it a button situation? It's a button or a cord or something like that.

Well, let's find out, though. He's back. Yeah, that's, Brian, you want to tell us what happened? Oh, now his audio's not here. Yeah, his audio's off, yeah. Yeah, just a second. Oh, he just gave us the finger. That was the patient finger.

That was a patient finger, not the middle finger, yeah. Now he's unmuting. No, he's muted himself. No, he's muted. Oh, now he's frozen again. Nope, Brian? You're muted, yeah. Now I can hear you, Brian.

Sorry, guys. I don't know what happened there. Oh, well, did you kick the cord? Did you turn the computer off? It turned off, yeah. I don't know. It turned off? I didn't touch it.

It's so far away from me. Oh. One of my screens went green and the other two went black and then it just started rebooting. Going hot? Is it running hot? So that's not great. I don't think so.

That's not great. But again, we discussed it, Brian. You desperately need to get yourself a new computer for your work. You know, I know that... Get yourself a real iron horse. You can get pre-built now. He bought this computer, like, off of eBay a while ago. Like, I used computer.

He needed something when his finances were in a certain way. He needed something to be able to record and stuff with. But he should, in my opinion, because he relies on. this stuff for his job is that he should have a computer that doesn't turn off in the middle of the recording ideally put it on the card there's so few expenses for a fucking podcast you know like well we don't have any really i mean bryant we had some some money sitting there and we just used it to put the we were doing a live show in vancouver and we used it for the deposit for that but yeah i will get a new computer i apologize for that that was uh that sucked that was very unprofessional

I'm just happy that it happened I will say this I'm happy that it happened right now with our friend Branson and not the last episode you recorded with Tim Heidecker Well we did just did the episode Tim Heidecker and that would have really stunk

If it happened in the middle of that Oh yeah you don't want to look Bush League there He'll start spitting he'll start Never you fuckers will never make it We'll never hear the end of it And he'll be going off on us railing on us On his show on cinema Yeah it would have been like railing us

Yeah so this here's a question hey when you first started going barefoot how long did it take your friends and family and acquaintances to get used to seeing you not wearing shoes now my family would be shocked because

I own I wear shoes famously we famously I put shoes on when I wake up and take them off when I'm sitting on the edge of my bed about the way down and go to sleep no so he never takes his shoes off I and I sort of mention it a little bit, but yeah, it should be mentioned that Brian is the exact opposite.

He is like, you would be considered an absolute fucking monster to these people. Well, and the thing, we've talked about this before, right? Like, uh, I do have Birkenstocks that I wear around the house. But if I woke up this morning and put on the Birkenstocks and walked around or did whatever my daily thing is, then at the end of the day, I'd still have to put a pair of shoes on for a few minutes because i because i feel weird not wearing shoes i feel strange to have my feet out so uh yeah i am just like my family would be like oh finally he took his shoes off yeah at first they'd be like oh this is great and then you never put them on then they'd be like wait a second he's got you know

yeah i'm trying to think of how yeah my family would react but yeah people would react like what the fuck i go to like uh i go just thinking when i go to that restaurant and have uh rigatone with Charlie every now and then during the happy hour and like they know me pretty well and like I start having that conversation with them all of a sudden like oh yeah by the way I don't wear shoes anymore because I would have to I would have to talk to them about it like can I come in here it would be a real and my yeah my like obviously my wife and my yeah Branson do you think you could pull it off or do you think that you would be able to like no I have I like I'm a large man I'm sort of like livestock in a lot of ways in which I

I do generate more smells. You know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm six, six, like two 60, right? So it's like I'm like, you know, if I'm going to work or something like that and I come home, my feet are going to fucking reek, really. I'll keep my shoes on because my feet will fucking reek. So it's like if I show up at somebody's house and take my shoes off, it's like I'm just showing up and taking a big like shit in their kitchen. But Branson, how about this?

How about this? Branson, maybe your feet ain't going to smell anymore if they're always free and they're always out there breathing and they're not getting they're going to get mad at me at work if i show up that becomes a problem oh you can't go to work what's your job that you can't be barefoot i work at a community college oh so people try to walk in barefoot you think it would be strange if you're walking around all of a sudden with without any socks or shoes on in an office i think it might be a little bit strange i think it might be a little bit strange so i think the stench is inevitable would you i just got to be a grown man and

and manage it. What do he call you into the office? You think your boss? Like, in all seriousness, like, you know, what do you call you in and say, hey, you know, what's going on with the, what the, what the, you saw, no shoes? Well, I was just, you know, really, honestly, I've been skirting the dress code all year. I've been wearing jeans and white shoes and they keep telling me I'm not supposed to wear white shoes.

But if I don't ever get anything written about it, I'm going to keep wearing the white shoes. I did that. Branson, back when I was at the, I had a coworker almost fuck that up. I was like, can we wear white shoes? I'm like, shut the fuck. up yeah leave my shoes alone i used to get to the cable company in my boots and then pull out and go park in a parking lot and put my regular nikes on for the rest of the day and then i'd have to pull into a parking lot put my boots on at the end of the day when i worked at a group home i worked

at a group home for a while like with uh a juvenile deter uh alternative like juvie kids like 16 through 18 and uh uh i used to have to tell my co-workers like we'd be hanging out in the living room of the group oh with like eight kids they're all like 16 17 i'd be like i'd have to tell like these 24 year old women put your fucking shoes on you think 16 year old boys there's not one of them that thinks something put your fucking shoes on right now and i only mention that because it wasn't like a one-time thing i had to tell three three three to four different people that work there to put their fucking shoes on. I think there is an assumed sort of barefootness of like the house that like,

you know, some people could not handle. I see. They would get horny again. And we're not talking about that this time. But sometimes people obviously, as we know on this podcast, some people are really in defeat. This guy goes,

they still aren't used to it. The culture around me is unfortunately very barefoot. hostile. There's a lot of struggle. Cal trips. A lot of caltrips in my community. It's barefoot hostile. Yeah. Just like burrowing bees. There's digger bees. You know, I got to look out for those in my community. I saw a lot of guys getting stung by bees. The old sharp tack turtle. I keep stepping on the old sharp tech. I do have a few. I'll get to those in a second because I want to I want to this guy goes, I thought my old lady was used to it by now. Nope.

She acknowledges the barefootness healthy and all, but it's still concerned about what other people think. That's the only wife post, by the way. Have any of you guys ever heard a sentence start off with my old lady? And it's ever a guy saying anything fucking nice about his wife? We don't hear it. We never hear anybody on this show. We never hear anyone say anything positive.

But that makes sense, Brian. I feel like a lot of single guys. in this community, like not a lot of married people that are in the barefoot community unless your wife is in it with you. Like, I don't think it's, it doesn't feel like a lot of our communities are like, oh, my, this is what my wife feels about it. My wife's always complaining. But yeah, I just don't even imagine there's a lot of guys who are like fully barefoot is legal and then their wife is just like a normal shoe person. That wouldn't really work, right? Not a lot of eager compromisers in the barefoot vocal community. I think that's part of the

problem of them being single more so than the barefoot thing. I do find it interesting that this guy's wife, you know, is like, I, hey, it's healthy. I know barefoot is healthy, but I just, I don't want people, I don't want to walk around town. Yeah. And have people looking at me. Yeah, that's normal. That's normal. And listen, you can say like, oh, who cares what everybody thinks, whatever, you know?

But it's like, that's also normal. You live in your community. You don't want everybody talking about you, your. freakish barefoot husband who, you know, who's always fucking arguing with the concierge. I'm actually allowed in there. I'm allowed into the library. I'm actually out of there. Like, oh, hi, Janice.

How are you? Janice, uh, how are the kids? Oh, I'm fine. He's yelling behind her as she's like trying to have a conversation with someone. Just trying to push his way into a parent teacher conference. You can't tell me I'm not allowed in here. I think that I think that's a normal thing. Yeah.

Like the weird thing I do often is I show up in my. shoes and they're like take your shoes off and i was like no i'll just stand here and i stand in the foyer where you can still wear shoes yeah and yeah yeah i'm just like if you want to talk to me you're going to have to come up to the door and people all i mean i i would certainly assume that you have like a massive foot odor problem my feet smell not my feet smell good i know that i know that and they look good i know that but i i just would assume if i ever like said to someone like hey you got to take your shoes off how do you know that and they're just like no they how do i what how do you know his feet smell good because i've hung out with him i spent time with him oh okay yeah like we spent time together everything

smells good brant he's just a good smelling guy he's a really fresh good smelling guy I've like hung out with him in hotel room and we've been there and no shoes tried and tested that's maybe not true maybe i haven't seen him without shoes on you haven't i can guarantee you haven't seen me without so that's true for my understanding you had smelled his feet yeah no i haven't i mean i just know that he smells really good. Like, he just has a really good fresh smell to him. Because I'm obsessed with it. Yeah.

Because it's, yeah, it's an old house. He's just smell like wet, big wet dog all the time. Big wet dogs. And then I let a girl borrow my, my starter jacket in high school. This is a nasty story. And she took it. You know, I'm like, you can wear it. Yeah, yeah.

And she came back and she's like, I took it off. It smells like dog. Yeah, that is like, fuck. That's like a lock-in moment in your like memory bang. I remember having a similar experience where somebody said I had a rat stash and I'm like Terminator style 13 year old boy. Like I have to go home and learn how to shave right now. Well, it was like she took it to the thing that got me the most about that is that she took it to class with her away from me, a different class. And when she said that, I was like, oh my God, they probably spent that whole class talking about my coat.

like they were probably chatting up about the coat and I was like that is so embarrassing they might have like song parodies about it even if I'm thinking about the way you know what I mean I don't have any off the top of my head but I just I feel like you know yeah so that was embarrassing to me this guy goes this is the rub the best thing to do is just let yourself stop caring what people think now this is a response to a guy saying his wife so a lot of compromisers in the community yeah he goes uh especially the people in the street who you've never spoken to him probably never will don't put thoughts in strangers heads that you don't know that they're thinking to smile be confident or act it and dress the best you can it really changes perception now i don't believe

that you can dress well without shoes i apologize to all the shoeless people i just think in order to be dressed well you got to have shoes on even if you got a tuxedo and you're like have no shoes on you look you still look like georgia the fucking jungle yeah you know yeah you take the shoes out of the equation it's hard to be formal that it's true there it's a big part of the formal dress is the shoes this guy goes my wife calls me a street urchin and i had to look that up when i walk he doesn't know what a street urchin is he goes when i walk the dog bare foot around our neighborhood she always tells me to put shoes on and sometimes catches me out looking at a ring doorbell huh so this this lady really does

like barefoot like this lady honestly his house is barefoot hostile well just like imagine like marrying some guy and things are going well and you know just kind of have a normal life between you uh all of a sudden he's fucking barefoot all the time you're fucking this whole thing up ronald just fucking put some shoes on is it does feel like like one of those things where like a lot of divorces happen from COVID because people started to just like like the vaccine coming out I think caused a lot of like divorces and stuff because people are like, oh shit,

my husband's stupid. This motherfucker is heavy anti-vax. Hey, he's like the fucking vaccine causes divorce and shit like that. I don't know about that. Well, I'm saying, I'm saying like, I think a lot of people live together during COVID and they discovered

that their husband is fucking stupid. Yeah, of course. And their wife is just fucking stupid or weird. And they ended the relationship. You know what I mean? mean, and I think the vaccine to me is a very obvious point where people were like, oh, he thinks vaccine shedding is real. You know what I mean?

Like the vaccine caused a lot of this weird. Well, also, if you get divorced for being like a foot guy, you're not going to be less of a foot guy after getting divorced, you know? Now you're a fucking she left me and I'm a fucking all in. I'm pushing all the chips in on being a foot guy. I'm not, I don't have a wife anymore, so I'm just a foot guy. So this better work out. I can smell it.

Brian's stinky jacket. Oh, got it all. This guy goes, she sounds like she doesn't have enough to do, in my opinion. Fucking bitch. That's the undertone of every single one of the bread. That is just, that is what they're all saying. Who does she think she fucking is? get her something to do

buy her a game or a jigsaw puzzle yeah buy her some sort of game where she can be like she can like pretend to be like a CEO of a like a handbag company and make handbag purchase give her a cup and a ball on a rope

yeah get her a ball on a rope get her a ball on a rope and leave her in the kitchen for a while she fucking fucking didn't have enough to a fucking do this guy goes wife was concerned but after a year it became normal my parents never really accepted it but dad just never really said anything although he did advise me not to go on the radio about it fearing ridicule and mum sort of

accepted it but insisted on shoes in some places like town when with her the rest of the family and friends either no comment or no issues or acceptance again it took maybe a year what a bad son what a bad when it comes to your mother if your mother asks you to put shoes on put your shoes on what a bad son i absolutely agree making your mom mother have to be like if we go to the restaurant you you're making your mother do that you choose every day on god's green earth who to be and you're making your mother beg you to put shoes on it's a damn shame is all it is there it's a damn shame yeah i think the thing that hit me really was that his dad asked him not to go on the radio and talking about his i'd be completely fine with going on the

radio i think it'd be completely fine i think that's a rat you know really your son's a foot guy you just kind of have to let it happen you know he's that guy that dad's old school he's like well god don't be saying it on the radio you know what i mean let's just keep it thing about every dad you know i don't even know if my dad knows i have a podcast you just don't have to tell your dad some stuff yeah i mean it's weird he's not listening to the radio i love the dad saying let's keep this shameful secret away from the public eye that you you uh don't wear shoes this person goes I doubt they ever will I often wear shoes in their company

it's easier that way that guy I feel bad to that guy I do feel bad for him but everything he says correct it's easier you think I like everything I do around people all the time come on buddy put some shoes on not a big deal yeah it's it's your commitment to it though right

those are like some people would say well you're not really doing it you're not really like and then but he's just saying like you know what I just want I still want to do it like when I'm alone when I have the opportunity but I also just want to live a normal life where everyone still likes me and I can have normal conversations with people too, which I think is probably a good way to be. Yeah.

I mean, if you're barefoot all the time and it's not a thing, like, as once it becomes your whole reason for being, which is very strange with something like being barefoot because it's kind of you take your shoes off. That's it. It's not like a big activity. You know what I mean? But like this guy goes, wait. How long will it take to getting used to seeing someone, seeing you not wearing a shirt at home or going commando or no clothes at all?

Society's rules are arbitrary, yet people do not recognize the conditioning they went through, which may well have led them to despise the mere thought of exposing any tabooed body parts. People don't know how to deal with dissenters and deviance. Eric Fromm called this escape from freedom. He argued freedom while celebrated officially also brings uncertainty. certainty, anxiety, and isolation. In response to this burden, many people unconsciously seek security by submitting to group norms and authority conforming to social norms or adopting rigid ideologies, even if that means giving up personal autonomy.

I just don't think that guy was talking about not wearing shoes. Yeah, listen, man, he is the kind of guy, though. That's the way I imagine them all kind of talking about how, like, it's about the freedom of it, like, you know, yeah, don't give up any of your, don't let them like, but at the end of the day, I just think it's a situation where a lot of the ground is real rough and it hurts your feet and it's better to wear shoes on that stuff because then you won't hurt your feet. And it's not really any deeper than that that it's like, yeah, it's just kind of better. People are asking you to wear shoes to maintain the preexisting social niceties. They don't

want to revolutionize the concept and go into a whole brave new world with you. It's probably Tuesday night. They don't want to do that. You just have to let, even let's say hypothetically, your big scientific thing, your big Freudian analysis, whatever, let's say it's completely right. So fucking what? They're not going to change and you know it. So fucking get along or don't. That's your choice. You don't have the numbers. You don't have the numbers. You have to be realistic. You don't have the numbers if you're in the barefoot community to move the needle at all. Like it's never going to. The same thing that you feel with like the fakeness of putting on shoes, everyone else in your life has to put up the fakeness of talking about

your bare feet with you. They have to fake laugh at the weird shit you say. They have to change the subject. You don't, crazy people don't realize this, but people are already giving you an incredibly wide birth. Right? People are already giving you

a wide birth because you're naturally an unreasonable person. So even if you're technically right on this, people are not listening to you. It feels like barefoot is a classic crazy guy trope too, right? To see like a barefoot person. So It does, like, sort of bring on when you see that person, you think, you're like, yeah, let's a little bit, something going on there maybe, and it's, yeah, it really.

The second any cynicism comes out of a barefoot person, I'm out. If you want to be a barefoot person, truly in this world, you have to be fucking optimistic Mr. Sunshine, and then everything's fine. But if you're like a complaining ass barefoot person, shut that nobody wants to deal. Everybody else has enough problems, and you are just a waving raw nerve. You're right. Like, just a really positive, like, like, if I found out that, do you remember the library guy who was online? Oh, yeah. That loved libraries. He could be barefoot. If that guy, if I found out he was barefoot and he's just like, man, I just like it. I'd just more free, man. I just love it. I'd be like, fuck yeah, dude. I bless that pure soul. Yeah, totally.

Well, let's check in here. This person says, my girlfriend and I walk about three miles barefoot every day with her dog. we live near a park but have about a half mile of walking on sidewalks and concrete each way before doing two miles on grass and dirt trails down to a local beach complete heaven for bare feet since we're walking more than 20 miles per week our souls are acclimated and feel like leather the only issue we're currently facing is the fact that our feet are stained even though we clean them every morning in a shower and again after our walk we're barefooters and tend to go places barefoot socially with friends and my girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about how stained our feet are i would think that would be something to not be embarrassed about it all in the barefoot community i would think that that would

be a mark of honor to have the most stained foot like like it's a cause and effect situation here really i mean i i mean i don't understand what you're surprised by i mean i mean like imagine just being like oh you see this little stain that that was a blackberry in port in lisbon you know Like, and you like, are you showing everybody where you've walked? No, I, in all seriousness, I think that that would be, are they saying they're embarrassed for other people, like, it's a bit embarrassed about my girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about how stained our feet are, even though they're so healthy. Are the callous is forming over dirt? What do you do to remove stains on your souls? I like the line like, my, my girlfriend is really nervous about all the dirt on the bottom of our feet, but they're so.

healthy. God, you wouldn't believe these things. Stealing, yeah, stealing the... I mean, I just know you can bleach your asshole, right? So maybe you could do something like that. You know what? Or you bleach the bottom of your foot and get that. I did watch my boy Biggie in college.

I did come home one day. My roommate was just sitting in the bathtub pouring a diluted bleach and water solution over his feet. Okay. Did you say anything? Just walked on by. This guy goes, if your friends know that you're barefooters,

your perpetually stained souls should actually give you a ton of street cred with them. There you go. Stained but otherwise clean feet denote a lifestyle. Perfectly clean manicured feet are a fashion statement. Can you imagine though? Yeah. Like that would be so,

you're showing up at a barefoot thing. And like everyone's like, oh my God, do you see the fucking new? Like somebody's got like pristine, clean feet and everyone's like hush talking like, you know, like, oh my God. That would be, so you could really sort of look. Everybody's talking about these new feet.

Everyone's looking at those new feet and it's like, oh my God, did you see fucking Brian's like over the past like month? I don't know how much he's been doing, but he's look incredibly dark. Like everybody's just like really making note of it and it's like the, it must have been stopping in pumice or something. It's all charcoal. Yeah, it's, I would love to if that, it sort of broke down that way. And you just seen some guy and he's just like in the corner with the nastiest,

dirtiest feet you've ever seen and he's like the king he's like up on a bed is I imagine like it builds layer after layer like at first it's the bottom of your feet then it goes to the side and so he's been barefoot for like 45 years it would get to his knee you know it would go crawl up his leg in like rural Missouri I remember guys would get have white beards but like when I was in Herman guys were dipping all the time oh yeah and so you would see the dip stain grow as guys ages so you would just watch guys their beer get white and then the part underneath it just get brown and yellow specifically i hung out with the guy name i hung out with a guy named josh when i was growing up and he had he always made fun of my

clothes but like he was always wearing like tight pants like tight white denim pants and stuff he he felt himself though he like it feels it seems to me like he was he was making conscious uh decisions and choices uh in fashion that you necessarily didn't necessarily agree with, but that he was very confident with. But he smoked, we all smoked cigarettes, right? Yeah. But the thing about him was his facial hair came in blonde.

So, like, all the way around, he smoked so much. He smoked more than even us. This guy sounds cool. And all around his lip was perfectly yellow. A couple years ago, I was on Facebook. And back when I was on Facebook,

I said something about weed or something and he responded to me and I clicked his fucking link still there still keeping the blonde goatee in so and it just looks like a it's the it's the worst like you can't have a blonde goatee and smoke you can't do both things you know what I mean like you got to cut it off you got to cut it off if but then but can you tell that it's stained or does it just kind of look cool and yellow like you know I mean it looks weird really, really dark yellow. Like when you've seen somebody's house where they smoke and you see how the walls get, that's what his mustache looked like.

Can you? Yeah, I'd love to see it privately. I really love my favorite, like, a habit stain is easily red wine teeth. Red wine teeth are the funniest fucking thing to see in the wild. I love seeing an old lady with red wine teeth. It, like, makes my whole fucking day. Oh, yeah. I, that's, that one's a rough one getting the, you got to get.

You can get those dealt with, I feel like, right? You can get the teeth whitened or something. Yeah, they rip out all them teeth and they put in brand new ones nowadays. Oh, yeah, just rip them out and put in new ones. Yeah, my aunt got some veneers. Put some Lars. Big old chompers in. Yeah, can I get to, I'll get some extra large Lars, please.

I want to look like a game show host. In my experience, the only thing that really cleans my feet is walking around on wet sidewalks on a rainy day. The only issue with dirt not coming off is it gets a. into the cracks in your feet they won't heal with dirt in them soaking then scrubbing with a nail brush or something similar works for that this motherfucker's just scraping his dead ass feet on the sidewalk you look outside you see him scraping his fucking old skin trail a fucking nasty ass feet stuff he's just he's scraping off his feet on the sidewalk just do that in your backyard get like a back you get a pumice stone he's not doing it on purpose he just can't help it he's walking on the

sidewalk it's a natural have you never seen like when an animal sheds in in the nature that's just it's called nature bret i've never seen a human shed it's called nature when i go outside to shed my feet you just see two fucking big empty skin sacks that look like feet i find it very strange the the thing i find strange is the amount of these guys that are like just wash your feet in a puddle it's like such a weird behavior to think of you know it's like they're a fucking lewis and clark or something like They're still living in like a trailblazing natural world. Why can't they just want to go to the stream? Like, no, that's not how the world works.

They not have a bath or a shower? Well, it doesn't work because the dirt like, have you ever seen somebody's feet like at the end of the summer that walks around barefoot? Oh, no, I know. I know. But I'm just saying, I understand that that like it's not going to work. It's staining your skin in a way. It's not dirt on the surface level.

is staining your skin and you can't wash it out in that same way. But I just mean, why would a puddle help that? Here's one, guys. This guy says, barefoot beware. Day off today was foraging a fig bush for breakfast. The poor yellow jacket never saw me coming.

Left me in a full day of hurt. There are sometimes when footwear is needed for safety. Stay wild. Is this fucking Fossey Bear? Did Fosy Bear post that? Is that live from fucking Jellystone Park? What the? Who? What live? Do these people live?

For lunch, I had to go get fig. We are not, we, you can, there's nothing that guy can tell me about my life that'll translate to my life. He lives out in the, these, because I feel like there are some people like that that are barefoot where they're like feeling like real a naturalist or something. And they like live out in a tent somewhere in like a forested area and they forage for food. And then that would honestly make sense that they're a barefoot person, right? You're like, you're like living like a wildest.

man then. But that's what you want. That's what they say they want some sort of anarcho-primidivistic lifestyle. Yeah. So that's good. But why are they posted about it still? You got what you wanted. Yeah. Oh, but still whatever. Listen, man, you don't hate on people for posting. We got, you got, he's still, they just want people to know about how they're, you know, they're living the dream or whatever. I feel like that anybody who's out there, do I, I like those people, those ones who are like living that life for real in the set. Like, you know what I mean? not going into the like bank and they're not going to like the grocery store in the same way and like doing that maybe sometimes they have to from time and time but like yeah like it's the the people

that I don't know if they exist still but you're telling me they do it's the people who are like going around living their life in the city and refusing to put shoes on and trying to go to establishments right yeah this guy goes I stepped on a yellow jacket nest once I've been stung by regular bees before it's no big deal but yellow jackets are a different kind of pain it's like you get stung again and again each time your pulse passes through the area horrible funny enough i was wearing socks and sneakers at the time one of the stings was on the side of my foot so the thing must have gotten inside my shoe that's that's that's a person that's yeah come on that's a co more shoes for no fucking reason you're not you're not stupid fucking shoes i bet you didn't happen

when he had shoes on either this guy goes that's some kind of unlucky reminds me of the time i jumped into a small pond barefoot and not realizing it was a not a pond but a ditch with boards full of rusty nails seven whole sorry i shouldn't laugh at that that's funny the visual picturing he's still a lie yeah so it's very funny check the water before jumping it you know he said seven holes and a regiment of tetanus shots but a free pass on driving the tractor for two months on our farm i don't know what that meant this guy wasn't he didn't have to drive the tractor because he had a foot injury so he wasn't able to drive the tractor so he got to relax on the farm yeah this guy goes oh so true i can remember getting stung by those little shit heads as a kid

leaving my swimming classes uh as an adult i usually swap them to the ground and smush them barefoot with the ball of my foot just not taking any chances these days i feel like that is that's a chance That's taking the most chance. That's taking more of a chance than not engaging at all with the yellow jacket, I feel like. It is. Let's do one more thing here. This guy goes, are there many places that do not allow entry barefoot? Yes.

I've been thinking about going to the museum barefoot. The problem is, I don't know if they'll let me in without shoes. And I live too far away to take the risk. I tried posting on Brazilian subs, but my fellow Brazilian simply ignored me. or thought the idea was horrible. That's why I came here. I mean, okay,

now. That's something. That's very clearly we know. You're just going to keep going until you get the answer you want. Yeah. Yeah, this is a very. It doesn't matter what I tell you.

Somebody's going to do it. That's why I came here. But I also love the sentence. It is, it is a beautifully psychotic sentence to say I've been thinking about going to the museum barefoot. You're not asking. You're not doing any research.

You are in your mind palace. imagining yourself walking around the museum barefoot. It's almost beautiful. He goes, even though we're from different backgrounds, is there a chance I won't be able to enter the museum? And then this person goes, just email the museum and ask. If they say no, ask them to send you the rules or dress code that prohibits bare feet. There usually isn't one, and often they will back down.

Oh, yeah. If they say they don't, if they say they don't want you in their establishment, press them a little bit and try to force your way ahead. that's uh i mean that it's like on next door where it's like did anybody hear that bang i love just going yes i heard i heard everything i saw that dog he's missing he's over here yes i heard a noise yes it smells weird you know i just want to be on barefoot telling everyone there you if if a police officer tries to stop you from walking on the court barefoot during a live NBA game you have lethal right to attack that bad i'm just going to go and just encourage bad advice

everywhere. Branson, when I was doing street fight, I would always have this conversation about these sovereign citizen guys where they're like, oh, a maritime law and all that shit. And it's like, yeah, but the police are just going to tase you anyway. They don't know about maritime law. They know, oh, we got a babble, a guy who's ass I'm allowed to kick. Yeah, I'm allowed to tase this guy in his car. I'm allowed to fuck this guy up. I get one hit. Let's go. This guy goes, uh, uh, uh, you might not be allowed in a lot of business. businesses where I am require shoes, although you can always get a pair of shoes with no soles or bottoms and wear those, would likely fool most people.

Yeah. That's the best shit so far. That's some Dennis the Menace level thinking. Decoy shoes where you're secretly barefoot underneath? Man, that's really like escalating things in a bizarrely non-avoid, in a bizarrely avoidant way, but still purely insane. That's one of the smartest ideas I ever heard of in my life. In terms of like crazy people, a lot of like legitimately people that are crazy,

they don't surprise you often, right? But that is truly some surprising level thinking that I'm very impressed by. You can do whatever shoes you want. You just buy your shoes that you like and you cut the souls out of them, right? So you could do whatever. You're like, oh, I got away with it. How do you find the shoes? shoes. No, you just buy normal shoes and then you cut the sole, you cut the bottom part off

of it and you stick them on and you put them on like you normally would. It's not that hard. It's actually super easy. There you go. So these are a real thing. They're called incognito kicks. They're, uh, they look like they're real bottomless shoes. That is a move, man. You stupid piece of shit. You thought I was fucking. to wear choose a bare foot the whole time. I can run away.

I can sprint through a marsh right now. I could go 40 miles an hour through the mud. You have no way to stop me. The guy walking out of the venue like showing the bottom of his foot like just kind of turning to the security guy and going, hey Bubba, by the way, kicking it up like real kicking it up super feminine, you know, like doing like by the way like showing it off and then just fucking storming off. I faked it the whole time.

This guy goes, just bring a pair of sandals just in case. Museums are kind of hit and miss. Some, especially those displaying modern art, are frequented by lots of art types, and many will be used to all sorts of unconventional clothing choices. Bare feet wouldn't be the weirdest thing. But others, especially the touristy ones, displaying traditional works from super famous artists, may ban bare feet out of fear of scaring gullible tourists away. They always say there's something weirder, right?

But they can't fucking ever name anything. They're like, it's not going to be the weirdest thing. What's weirder? I can't think shirtless. Yeah, I guess. But at least I understand shirtless, right? Sure. I understand that.

Yes, it is. What? I think leaving your house without a shirt on is maybe the top craziest thing I can think of. No, it depends. If it's fucking older than 20 years old. Yeah. If it's a young outside, if it's super hot outside. I mean, it depends.

Like, yeah, where I live, it would be weird. I guess but like I think in some places if you live in some beach town or whatever it's the summertime I think people are walking around with their shirts on put it on until you get into water I mean I agree with you I'm not I don't I don't I don't love walking around seeing people you know walk around with their shirts off but I make it nipples let's just say it nobody likes male nipples I don't mind it as much I'm just I don't like feet really I like so I'd prefer to see somebody with their shirt off than their feet and then they're yeah then they're no shoes I'm fine with people not wearing shoes

shoes as long. If I can tell they're like enjoying it, it too much, you know, like, oh, man, loving this. I just don't like a look of it. I just don't like, and like you said, it's like, I don't know, it's like there's the smell. Like, I'm just not a foot person. So I respect guys. Like I said, the way that I fall on this is, if you're a big outdoor kind of guy, yeah, go have at it. If you're a weird, annoying guy, I hate it. And I do think if you're out in society, wearing no shoes and no socks you're you seem weird to everybody kind of and people are already putting up with you you know a little bit just like realized that you are already the smell is like annoying and shit too and it's just they're nasty and so i would prefer personally to see people

topless especially hey especially a couple maybe some of the ladies might not might not mind that personally myself there's always a chance some busy body knucklehead won't let you enter have you taken a look at the museum's house regulations if being barefoot isn't explicitly forbidden there or conversely if footwear isn't explicitly mandatory chances are you won't be accosted of course chances are also they simply did not encounter barefoot customers yet and thus didn't think of implementing a rule explicitly against us take your pick of what's more unlikely and then finally here's a little bit of advice is just also do whatever you want anyway But here's what you should argue.

Well, this guy is our last post. It goes, when you enter the establishment and encounter the ticket taker, make and hold eye contact with them. This causes most of them to reciprocally maintain eye contact with you. And they don't look down at your feet. If you look down, so will they. And there's a greater chance they will say something about your lack of footwear. That was Dr. Soft Power's advice there to get what you want out of the world. Just keep, like, keep staring directly at him.

That is, yeah, people, people are never off put by that at all. Wear, like, a Chiquita banana-style hat to really distract them from your feet, you know. Wear a crazy hat is a really good thing. We're wearing a crazy hat is probably one of the best one. That's a good idea, Branson, yeah. If you're wearing a crazy, if you're wearing a crazy hat and those fake bottom shoes, like you, you're allowed to do that in my opinion. Oh, yeah. The crazy hat, it's like, should be, yeah, like really high, too.

So it gets him looking up versus even down. Oh, I would just do a be a beanie with a propeller. Oh, I wanted to be a real high hat, like, super high up there. So he's like, he's looking way up there. There's no chance you'll even sort of see your foot in his periphery or whatever. Just any kind of distracting hat, any kind of like steampunk style hat would also work, you know? Yeah. That's a beautiful hat you have.

Oh, thanks so much. The smell, oh, I'm not sure. I think it might be some dog dew out on the, uh, on the sidewalks. I think somebody's cooking some white mushrooms in the other room. All right. Well, that is barefoot guys. People have been asking this one for a long time.

Why? Who? So many people wanted this episode. Name and shame. Name and shame. The listeners. We don't know their names. I get,

Branson, you would not believe the amount of suggestions I get. So we get a lot of. I believe you. We get a lot of suggestions. I get some too. We had to delete the E1 episode suggestions idea because Andrew kept making that to piss me off

so people would give their really bad ideas all the time. For us, it's thankfully it's like there's not, you know, it's just a topic. So they're not like people aren't. But some of them are bad. Some of them are bad. I'm not going to name any, but some of them are so like one guy does it.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what you want me to do here. We get two types of recommendation. One is you guys should do black wheelchair guys, right? And we'll go, no, we can't do black wheelchair guys we're not going to explain why and then the other one is just like you guys should be moderators of an anime forum here here is a link of these guys here i think it would be funny

if you did an episode and it's just we delete i deleted the whole channel and so that's the on the e1 podcast check it out though the good ideas that they come up with on their own and they are very funny and for those who you don't know the podcast it's you guys are doing a different podcast every time, essentially doing different characters. Well, yeah, seven years ago, that was kind of the idea. Every episode was a different, but really, you know, now it's just like a different thing every hour. Sometimes we'll do scripted, but mostly improvised still. Yeah, and it's, and that's, yeah, so give you some.

It's fun to do. And where do people, sorry, I was tuned out a little bit on my phone there. Where do people send the suggestions in for the E1 ideas? Because I have a couple of good ones. So you're going to send them to my co-host, Andrew Hudson. He's on Twitter at Intelligence So DM him your episode ideas And then he filters it

He'll kind of workshop with you a little bit too And he'll kind of bounce some ideas back in there And once you're kind of polished the idea By riffing it through with Andrew Then he passes it to me And that's when I call your cell phone And I'm like, this is a huge honor for you We need you on the episode

Your idea was amazing So send it to Andrew Brian and I went on an episode once We were wrestlers on it I remember. It was a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, we've got to get you on another one. Yeah.

Anytime. All right, we'll see you all next week. Maybe just have Brian on. He's a little pissed off because YKS asked me on my own. So maybe just have Brian on, you know. No, I like doing stuff with Chris. He needs a W.

And all joking. I'll let you end in a second, Brian, I promise. But it is always funny to me is like I do feel like sometimes they'll ask Brian and I to come on. Like very rarely. It's mostly Brian, right? And then it feels like I'm kind of like the younger brother. You know, it's like they let him bring me along sometimes. Yeah, they'll throw you a bone in.

Now it's dangerous. Let's see what he can do by himself, you know. So I do appreciate it. I think, I don't, it hasn't come out yet. Maybe we really had a, maybe we really bombed it really bad. But we did a show. We did a podcast together. I guess I won't even mention the name of it now because if it doesn't come out,

yikes. I think it's coming out. I just don't know when. It's Gareth Reynolds' podcast. And then, yeah, we did Chef Kevin's as well. and but yeah I'm just have Brian on

I'm gonna do I'm doing YKS and I am perfect I don't I don't need this Brian I don't need it buddy I don't need

I'm good I'm pretty busy anyways honestly so you take this one man you take this you go you hit it out of the part yeah

yeah yeah